Get some facts and come back and seebe. Get some facts and come back
and Seebee. Don't throw out salaries or other things. Get some facts and
come back and Seebee. You can't handle the true now told our players you
need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats
in here, looking in the mirror, I look good. I got my
extra bands on, I got my other shoes. Be a doll. We
don't need no mouns. We don't need no cats. We need more dogs.
Why not a detain Oh you're not that detained. We weren't good.
There's no sense of asking me things about the game. I'm telling you.
We laid an egg. So I'm not gonna break it down for you.
He sucks. He sucked. He laid an egg. That's all I have
to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna break it down for
you. Nothing went well for us. It's on us. We have to
figure it out. And we left eight show any showtime eight o'clock or so
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Thursday, Kent Tomayta suffers another loss. Detroit is in Cincinnati for the
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row just swept the Yankees, first time they've swept a Yankees team in a
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Jehan Diale Classic. Hayden Springer, The twenty seven year old cards a twelve
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second this year. Cam Young did it at the Travelers a few weeks ago.
By the way, did you see what Jesse Winker did? So yesterday
people are all decked out in their red, white and blue, and I
love that all right. I had my American flag t shirt on all day
long, Jesse Winker in order to celebrate July fourth, Jesse Winker hit a
clutch home run and then threw on the most patriotic outfit of all time.
He looked like the second coming of Carl Weathers In so Jesse Winker. In
case you're wondering, he plays for the Washington Nationals. How appropriate is that?
And had a chance. I've had a chance to talk to him on
a number of different occasions. He's a different cat, but he's uh,
he's a pretty cool dude. He's not afraid to share his opinion with you.
He goes yard right center field, no problem there, his tenth of
the year, and upon the home run, he crossed his home plate.
He takes his time, he points to people like like everybody does. Then
he throws on an an American A tribute to the July fourth celebration with and
it's really it's the entire Nationals team. He's got a top hat with the
American flag wearing it, and I thought he put out a coat too.
He put on a red, white and blue Star spangled coat as well.
It's pretty cool when we can put that up whenever Trent wants to as well.
If if you missed it, it's it's pretty awesome. So I just
want to make sure I mentioned that because it's a it's we talk about personality,
right, We talked about what he didn't take forever to get around the
bases. The celebration did not halt anything. He gets, he gets the
hat on the top of the steps, he walks into the dugout, puts
on the coat, and there you go. That's personality, that's production,
and that's professionalism, and it's clatch. He was pinch hitting. Yeah,
it's pretty awesome. It's pretty awesome. Anyway. Our poll question, what'd
you grow on the fourth of July? Burgers, hot dogs, chicken or
other. Now my wife doesn't eat red meat, so we had I grow
burgers and she had a turkey burger. I don't know what that would fall
under, but I'm just gonna I'll circle burgers. That'll be the check for
me if you grilled anything other. I don't know many people grill steak on
Fourth of July. Usually it's burgers or hot dogs. But there's so many
people now toward chicken. That's why we gave you those choices. And then
other vote as often as you want. Ex'es and bros on X will give
the results on Monday. What are the results from Wednesday? Now? Wednesday
we asked you this is it time to start questioning the iSER plan because Steve
Eiserman has not necessarily he hasn't really overwhelmed you in the off season so far.
He's made a couple of moves that were probably necessary, right, I
mean Cam Talbot, I mean my son said to me the other day,
He's like, really, Cam Talbot, Dad, And then I reminded him
that Vladimir Tarasenko two year deal, cap friendly for the most part, productive
player, proven winner, top six guy. Maybe they're maybe you're not getting
the defense that you necessarily wanted. Anyway, Tarasenko, you know, it's
a former forty goal scorer. He's not going to score forty, I doubt
for the Red Wings, but he'll give you over twenty and he'll take that
anyway. What the results from the Wednesday poll? Question, Trent, is
it time to get on board or is it time to get off with the
iSER plan? What's it? Do you start questioning it? What was it?
Yes or no? What is it time to start questioning the iSER plan?
It was a dead heat? No, be patient. Got fifty one
percent of the vote, forty nine percent of you say absolutely, got some
great responses on X. Of course you guys can always respond chime in there,
but kind of a it's it's fifty to fifty, and I think that's
kind of indicative of where the fan base is at. When don't you say?
Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, I expected a little bit
more. No, but I like the balance. It's good stuff. Let's
go to the phone lines and the Meyer hotline eight six eight three eight forty
eight forty three. Who's up next? We've got Mark from gun Lake Mark,
Good morning. I hope you had a good fourth Oh yeah, yeah.
We did chicken gobobs on the grills, so that was fun. It's
always fun putting those together. But no, Eisaman got Patrick Kane for another
year, didn't he he did? Yep, got Patrick Kane for another year.
Trade you know, signed Gustafson as a as a defenseman to take the
place of Gosta Spear. I'm just I'm wondering if people thought they were going
to do a little bit more defensively, But go ahead, I think Kane's
going to be a little healthier too. But what I wanted to say is,
last half hour you were talking about the Steelers and NBC Game of the
Week AFC. It was an AFC playoff game. It was the Oilers and
the Steelers and Earl Campbell of course, was on Houston and he was running
down the sideline in front of the Steelers bench and Donnie Shell. I never
seen anybody hit as hard as he did for what was he like five eleven
one ninety and Campbell was like five eleven two thirty or something like that,
and he lit him up, and I was like the Steeler bench went crazy.
And when you talk about those old games, those old times with those
old players, that's the biggest play I can ever remember was when Earl Campbell
got his bell run by Donniechelle. Do you remember Donnishelle? Oh yeah,
Donni Sheelle was a hell of a player, and I remember Earl Campbell.
Well, Earl Campbell probably was my favorite running back as a kid growing up.
He came out of Texas as Heisman Trophy winner. He didn't play until
seventy eight, though, And I do remember the one year I think it
was seventy it might have been seventy nine when the Steelers beat the Oilers.
Mike Renfro had a catch in the back of the end zone. If there
was instant replay back, then it would have counted. Instead, they said
he was out of bounds. Yes, yep, I do remember that.
And I remember the Monday night game with Houston Oilers with Cosell and the gang
and Earl Campbell just had an unbelievable game that night, going down the sidelines
and he was really fast for being as heavy as he was at all.
Oh yeah, I mean and that was against Miami. I remember that.
That was against Miami. That's a well, you're bringing back a lot of
memories. Thanks for the phone call. I appreciate it. We got to
hit a break. Uh, okay, you have a great day. Yeah
you too, thanks a lot. Yeah, that was good stuff. Earl
Campbell was a phenomenal player, led the league in his first three years in
rushing and yards per game and touchdowns. He was the MVP his second year
in the league. He was an absolute battering ram. He was a bad
bad man. Five eleven, two thirty two is what they had him listed.
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Monday through Friday six until nine. Who do you think is an underappreciated athlete?
CBS Sports NFL dot Com came out with underappreciated players on every team in
the National Football League. Who is the most underappreciated do you think for the
Lions? Not who they picked? Who you believe is the most underappreciated shep
kneed jerk reaction to that question, Frank Ragnow, Yeah, that's exactly who
I wrote down. Same thing, Frank Ragnow. I think I think offensive
linemen in general, yeah, are underappreciated. I've said this for twenty plus
years. Frank Ragnow has taken twentieth overall in the twenty eighteen draft. He
has been a three time Pro Bowler and a two time All Pro, which
means more to me. I mean, the Pro bowler is one thing I
think being an All Pro, his second team All Pro twice. That means
more. I hope he can stay healthy, I really do. One of
the few things that Bob Quinn nailed was Frank ragnow exactly exactly and Taylor Decker
for that matter. To go along with this offensive line rhetoric, yeah,
absolutely, I mean Taylor Decker has been a very steady player, the longest
tenured in Detroit lion on the roster right. Look, he's not Anthony Munos,
he's not Jackie Slater, but that's okay. He's been a reliable player
every single year now. People felt like he needed to be I don't know
much much more dominating. Is that fair? I think people feel that way.
Yeah, he's better than Riley Reeve. Is he better than Jeff Backus?
Do you think he's better than Jeff Bacchus. When Jeff Backus was,
you know, a first round pick out of the University of Michigan. He's
played on better teams, There's no doubt about that. You kind of open
a can of worms there with the Ohio State versus Michigan rhetoric. Yeah,
a little bit, yes, but think about it. I mean, Bob
Quinn, Kenny Galladay, no, right, yeah became. He was actually
a Pro Bowler's the third round pick, but went to the Giants and did
absolutely nothing nothing. He was excellent with Matthew Stafford. Yeah, but he
was as another wide receiver or player who catches passes who became was really much
better under with Stafford than anybody else. But he was the first receiver to
make the Pro Bowl since Calvin Johnson. If you recall, and as you
mentioned Frank Ragnow twenty eighteen, he was their most improved player in twenty nineteen.
According to Pro Football Focus, Graham Glasgow was a third round pick by
Quinn. Remember Ashawn Robinson, he was a second round pick. These guys
aren't necessarily I mean, I think Ragnow is a hell of a player.
The other guys, you know, they're just guys. For the most part,
I thought Ashawn Robinson was going to be a lot better than he was.
I really did. I thought he was going to be a beast of
a defensive tackle. But anyway, CBA sports an NFL dot Com right that
the most underappreciated Lion is Jamiir Gribbs. Jamiir Gibbs is the Did you get
a sense that he's a guy who was underappreciated by Lions fans. No,
I don't see that at all. With all due respect to whoever wrote this
article, I do not see that at all. I guess maybe the angle
is just David Montgomery gets he's your bellcow guy. But Jamir Gibbs has worked
in pretty heavily. He's a pro bowler. Yeah, and people love him.
The fans love him. I don't think he's underappreciated at all. Maybe
from a national perspective a little bit. And also shep if you go back
to the draft when they initially took him, I mean some of the that's
it, some of the reactions and was that they reached a little bit for
him. So maybe from it you hit it, Yeah, you hit it
right on the head. That's where it comes into play. Because people booed
the pick. We did collectively. People booed the pick. They literally said
to themselves under their breath or what or out loud they said, what the
hell are you doing? Yeah, that's a reach, that's a reach.
Are you kidding me? A running back there. National pundits did the same
thing, didn't they. Oh yeah, extremely critical of it, constantly knocking
it dead panning it and a lot of it had to do with the Lion.
I think a lot of people wanted the Lions to take Jalen Carter.
And that's kind of that. He's been a good player for the Eagles in
his first year. Well that's because of a couple of reasons. Right,
but you need when it was in need. And two he was highly decorated.
He played for a national champion team. Yep, people don't Jamior Gibbs
did too. But people don't value right or wrong. They do not value
running backs like they used to. We just talked about, you know when
I was watching America's game that on NFL Network, and I brought up Franco
Harris, and I brought up John Riggins, and somebody one of the callers
brought it, brought up Earl Campbell. And for good reason, those guys,
those guys were carrying it on a regular basis. They were really important
to the team's offenses. You've got to be able to run the football.
Now. You need your running back to catch the football more than anything else.
Why because that is an extension of your run game. That is your
running game. Your running game isn't turn and go fifty veer. Your running
game is now play action. Let's toss it out to our tailback in the
flat and let him go from there. That's our running game. Shop quickly.
Another thing here that I that I As time has gone on, it's
aged well. But at that time when they drafted Gibbs, they still had
DeAndre Swift on the roster that was a question, and they had also just
signed David Montgomery. So I think all those things taken into consideration. I
think that's that's another reason the pick was so panned. Well, who's laughing
now exactly? You know who's laughing, Brad Holmes. He could be laughing
if he wanted to Dan Campbell, Ben Johnson and Jimior Gibbs. Why do
we forget And I'm not saying that it's I'm not going to sit here and
tell you that I love the pick, either, But why do we oftentimes
forget that in football you need depth. It's because we want that depth to
come in a different round. We want impact players right away. Guess what,
Jamiir Gibbs is a really impactful player. There are so many different ways
to build it, and this usually comes full circle to what we talk about
oftentimes on the show. And that's the trust in a manager, coach,
general manager, team president, whatever the title might be. A decision maker
we feel needs to earn our trust, and we're one hundred percent right in
that regard. I don't know when Brad Holmes earned your trust, but what's
funny is he probably earned it with the pick. You hated most Jamior Gibbs
people that want to use that Campbell pick. They didn't love the Laporta pic
right, they didn't love any of those, but they worked out, right,
They've all worked out. You stood from the mountaintops, you stood from
the top of your house and said this pick sucks. What is he doing?
Yep? And then by the end of the year you said, these
picks are all great. I love what you're doing. Look how bright the
future is. Right, And that's probably when that word trust really was emboldened
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when we start talking football trend, I start thinking about the Lions. It's
great what Brad Holmes has done and Dan Campbell. They put together an exciting
product, a young product that figures to be you know, with this franchise
for a long time, which is really exciting. It reminded me. I
tweeted this out yesterday while I was watching America's game and watching the seventy four
Steelers and the seventy five Steelers and the seventy six Raiders, and what the
Steelers did in the late seventies, seventy eight and seventy nine as well,
and then the Niners, and you know, you have this turning point of
dominance, right and you see the Niners beat the Cowboys with the catch in
eighty one and Dwight Clark on the receiving end, and that's when you realize,
like, okay, that was a moment that forced to shift for a
period of time, not for all time, but a period of time.
San Francisco became much more relevant. Pittsburgh won a game earlier in seventy four
that kind of changed everything. Frank o'herry and a lot of the players said,
that was the game, and it was I believe it was against the
Raiders early in the playoffs, and they said, that's when we knew,
we knew we were good enough. Chuck Noele said to them, guys,
the best team in the world is right here. You guys are the best
team in America. And Joe Green said, you know, nothing else needed
to be said, and we went out and we dominated the game. When
I see that and then I tweeted, I wonder if they'll be doing a
similar type of show about the Lions sometime soon. So the first time in
my life, I truly believe that could take place twenty twenty four, question
mark. That's what I tweeted out yesterday. And I think I believe that.
I truly believe it because that they are drafting and developing the right people.
You look at Bob Quinn's draft picks and you're thinking, sorry, I
don't think Brad Holmes, like this is all revision is history. It's easy
to say, I think Brad Holmes back in twenty seventeen probably takes TJ.
Watt to Davious White. How about anyone other than Jolani Tavai in the second
round or instead of Jared Davis? Yeah, right, who just didn't quite
fit right? And we've given we've given Bob Quinn as flowers. I mean,
we talked in the last segment about Taylor Decker Frank Ragnow two pretty solid
home run all pro type level guys, right, But there's also for every
one of those guys, there's a Jelani Tavai or a Jared Davis, or
a tease table or a trade for Jamie Collins or a signing like Danny Shelton,
any of the Patriot way shapp remember that, Yeah, oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, it's got to be his way, right because he's terrible.
Yeah, because he's the smartest guy in the in the room of course
Russia for sure. Yeah, And they can't wait to tell you see what
I did. This is what I did. This is you watch. I
remember watching Michael Roberts play at Toledo as a tight end and thought he was
a good player. I thought it was going to be a good pick.
I didn't think it was a great pick, but it was a fourth round
choice. One thing that perhaps they don't get credit for is Jalen Reeve Mabon.
He's been a solid player, but he's a special teamer for the most
part. He was also a fourth round choice. I'll reiterate what I say
all the time when it comes to football, and I've had football writers debate
me on this, and it's a fun debate. It really is. You
have to hit on your first round picks, no doubt. They have to
be starters for you. Those picks are so so valuable, vital. If
it's not a quarterback other than a quarterback, I think they have to be
a starter. Like I don't believe you've got to start your quarterback right away.
So I'm going to alleviate that. Everything else, they've got to be
starters for you. Your second round choices should be starters for you. Your
third round choices should be contributors everything after that. If they're special teams,
if they're backups, if they're you know, depth guys, I'm okay with
that, it's fine. But when you get Bob Quinn and he gets his
first round picks of guys like Jared Davis and it didn't work out, that's
an issue that sets you back. Frank rag Now is starter. That was
great. Carrie and Johnson if you remember him, he was the second round
pick. He was a starter for a while and but was hurt too much.
There are some picks that I really liked and I thought were going to
work out, and they didn't work out. So, for example, one
of the guys I really liked that they took was DeShawn Hand. He was
a defensive tackle out of Alabama. Didn't work out. Yeah, they tried
pairing him up with Ashawn Robinson, who he mentioned earlier. As well.
Both those guys came from Bama. Right, didn't work out, but shep
I think they took Remember this though, they did take TJ. Hockinson,
and t J. Hockinson turned out to be a damn good player. Here's
the two that killed Bob Quinn. What are they? Jeff Acuda that's a
first round pick, third overall, right, that's a that's an absolute killer.
That's the that's primarily the reason you looked at Bob Quinn and said,
you don't know what you're doing well. And maybe this says more about Patricia,
but I remember jeff Alkudah was a healthy scratch week one of his rookie
season. I remember everyone the discourse online, the disgust of just what are
we doing? You pick a guy third overall and he's a healthy scratch week
one. So I think it's fair to say that part of their downfall was
Jared Davis as a first round pick, Tease Tabor as a second round pick,
and Jeffrey Cuda as a first round pick. I think fans for the
most part, can understand and relate to missing out on a fourth or a
fifth round choice. You didn't hit a home run there, but you've got
to hit extra bases. I'll use a different metaphor for a different sport.
You've got to hit extra bases on your high draft picks, have to.
And then you look go what Brad Holmes has done, and you see how
well he has manned the draft. Oh, chef, it's a clinic.
You can even look. You don't have to look any further than last season,
right or last year. I should say Brian Branch, Sam Laporta,
both second round picks, both not only starters, heavy strong contributors to an
NFC Championship game run. Not just that Laporte is now viewed as one of
the best tight ends in football top five. And what I would argue is
that it's not just their skill, it's how they fit your team slash system
as much as anything else. So yeah, it's great that they're getting production
from these guys. I don't care if it's Gibbs, I don't care if
it's Laporta, I don't care if it's Campbell, I don't care if it's
Brian Branch, whatever, they're getting contributions. Some would argue the cynic and
some people would say, well, when you got a team that's as bad
as the Lions. Of course, you're going to bring in guys. It
can't get any worse. So you're gonna put young guys into a position and
they're going to help your team. My point is they fit a system that
accelerates the learning curve and makes them and the team in general, but makes
them key contributors because you're putting in them in spots where they can be successful.
With all those guys, right, and we talk about Jared Goff,
a quarterback who has had a lot of success in the league. Right,
He's been to a Super Bowl, He's been to a couple NFC Championship games.
He trusts Laporta from day one. What does that say about Sam Laporta?
What does that say about Brad Holmes? Yeah? For sure, absolutely,
But just as important, what do we go back to all the time?
We go back to how many of our guys, right, how many
of our guys would the other team want? And that's the beauty of what
is going on with the Lions right now, is there's a lot of guys
on their team right now that other players want. Now. I would caution,
just caution for a moment, because if you look at first round picks,
and we said you got to hit home runs there, Bob Quinn,
who I would never defend, but he did hit a home run I think
at least extra basis with Taylor Decker, Frank Ragnow and TJ. Hockinson.
So he got three out of five, right, yeah, okay, So
Brad Holmes has hit Homer's on Penny Sewell, Aiden Hutchinson. We think Jamiir
Gibbs and Jack Campbell. We're not sure about Jamison Williams yet, and we
have no idea what Terry on Arnold, even though I think I speak for
you, we both like him, right yeah, yeah, okay, But
I also just quickly I want to hammer this home. Not only was Penny
Sewell a home run that's out of the park, that he was your analogy?
Oh absolutely, I mean that's a standing ovation right there. Absolutely.
Yeah. But people didn't. I don't. I don't want to say people
didn't like it. People were less enamored with it. And the reason is
because it's an offensive lineman. People are like, eh, okay, whatever
they think they can get by without it. Was there good fortune along the
way? Absolutely like Jacksonville taking Trevon Walker instead of Aiden Hutchinson. Yep,
but that's okay, there's there's nothing wrong with that. You gotta get a
little bit lucky to win championships, to be a winning culture, year in
year out, you have to get a little lucky. People don't like to
admit that, but yeah, you gotta have you gotta have some bounces go
your way. Yeah, because they've gone against you exactly. Now, would
you would you rather have somebody other than Jamison Williams? I suppose so.
Remember they traded up to get him, so two first round picks for Detroit.
Aiden Hutchinson went number two overall and what was it was Williams like twelve
twelve? Yeah, the Lions traded up with the Vikings. Yeah, who
would you have rather taken instead of him? I'm not giving up on him
because I think he's going to be a good player. How long will he
be a Lion? Would I break the bank for him? I don't know.
I remember there was a kid out of Notre Dame, a safety out
of Notre Dame who I really really liked, and he's been an outstanding player
for Baltimore. His name is Kyle Hamilton, And would I rather have him?
Probably? Yeah? But Jamison Williams. This is a massive year for
Jamison Williams. Huge, huge, huge. I would argue this. I
think it's if there's anybody who if there's anybody who needs a big season,
if there is some type of final resolution on what that player is going to
be, it's this year with Jamison Williams. People are going to make up
their mind about Jamison Williams this year if they haven't already. Okay, I
think that's how important it is for him. What I find interesting about this
chef just I'll make this quick is I think despite that, and I agree
with you, he's still a fan favorite. I mean, people have been
patient with him, so I think if that's the biggest concern with one of
Brad Holmes draft picks, I think we're doing all right. Well. The
reason they've been patient with him, I don't know if patience is the right
word. He hasn't had a full season yet, you know, I mean,
right injured coming into his rookie year, and then everyone knows about the
gambling scandal last year. Was supposed to be a six game suspension got appealed
down to three. So I don't I'm not going to say it's patience.
I think people have almost forgotten him to a certain extent because the team's been
successful. See, if this team's not winning, they're blaming it on Jamison
Williams. But because this team's winning, they're willing to overlook Because at the
beginning of last year, when he was out, people were pissed, and
rightfully so because of the gambling situation. So people were not happy. But
as the team wins, as the success roles, you think to yourself,
Okay, well it's not hurting us like I thought it would, so I'm
okay with it. Right. So then it almost turns into a situation where
it's like anything he can give you is gravy. Almost it's gravy, right,
because the team was winning and off to a hot start and beating the
Chiefs without him. Right, But now what's changed this year? First of
all, you've lost Josh Reynolds, so Williams is thrust into what we consider
to be a bigger role. Second of all, the stakes are higher,
the expectation is greater. It is literally, for the first time in my
lifetime, super Bowl or bust. I know that sounds harsh, but it's
very true. If this team stays healthy. As long as it stays healthy,
this team is expected to make the Super Bowl. Let that marinate for
a second. We're talking about the Detroit Lions and the expectation is to make
the Super Bowl. Well, Jamison Williams is a piece to what people thought
needed an upgrade. It was the defensive backfield and it was the quote unquote
third wide receiver. Well, Jamison Williams now has that opportunity and everybody the
expectation is not there just or the team, but it's for him individually,
and it's appropriate pressure. This is the guy that everybody has felt like can
be a number one, He can be a downfield threat, he can stretch
the field. Right. Well, if that's the case, okay, then
let's go. This has got to be it. I don't think it's as
much patience with him a year ago as it was. We can live with
the sin because it's not hurting our team as much as we thought it was
going to hurt it. I could be wrong there, but that's the sense
that I got with the Lions and Shep. I think it's okay for the
expectations to be super Bowl or bust. And for the first time, in
my life. I'm only twenty four, but for the first time in my
life that is I mean, that's the case, right, because it's realistic,
it is realistic within reach, and unless you win the NFC North again
and win twelve games again, anything short of that should be a failure.
Yeah. There was an article yesterday which team will underperform and overperform, And
I'll be honest with you, my fear was like, oh boy, are
they going to write the Lions for underperforming? The Lions weren't mentioned in any
of it. I think, you know a team that's going to underperform is
probably Baltimore. The expectation is so high for Baltimore, and I think their
division is so good, and I think the AFC is getting better. I
think the Chargers are going to be better. People have high expectations for the
Texans, the Jets. Yeah, the Jets, which I think is I
mean, their defense is so good, but you're asking an awful lot of
a forty year old coming off a really nasty injury. Absolutely, but I
really think they're going to underperform. And I think the team that might overperform
though they play in a tough division. Even though I think it's going to
be tough for them in general is Chicago. Yeah, and you brought up
the Jets. The Jets are what really good defensively correct, very really good,
top five. Yeah. The Bears are really good defensively too. And
the Bears weren't your typical first overall pick team. I mean they won seven
games. That was Carolina's pick. They had at number one to pick Caleb
Williams. Correct, So that's a bit of a unique situation, very unique.
But I thought that was a good article. Going back to how this
whole conversation started, they had Jamier Gibbs as the underappreciated player, and both
Trent and I feel like it's Frank Ragnow. I think Gibbs is really highly
appreciated. At least in Detroit. They love him. And what's not to
love when you lead all rookies in touchdowns with rushing touchdowns with ten and you
got the second most rushing yards and third most yards from scrimmage. What's not
to love? A lot of twenty six jerseys in ford Field. And there'll
probably be me more speaking of love, love doing this show with you.
Appreciate it very much. Glad you were with us. All morning long.
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