WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:16.519 Get some facts and come back and seebe. Get some facts and come back 2 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:20.760 and Seebee. Don't throw out salaries or other things. Get some facts and 3 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:25.120 come back and Seebee. You can't handle the true now told our players you 4 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.879 need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats 5 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:31.519 in here, looking in the mirror, I look good. I got my 6 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:35.399 extra bands on, I got my other shoes. Be a doll. We 7 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:39.039 don't need no mouns. We don't need no cats. We need more dogs. 8 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:44.399 Why not a detain Oh you're not that detained. We weren't good. 9 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:46.880 There's no sense of asking me things about the game. I'm telling you. 10 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:49.200 We laid an egg. So I'm not gonna break it down for you. 11 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:54.280 He sucks. He sucked. He laid an egg. That's all I have 12 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:56.520 to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna break it down for 13 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:59.600 you. Nothing went well for us. It's on us. We have to 14 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:04.120 figure it out. And we left eight show any showtime eight o'clock or so 15 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:11.079 here on this Friday, July fifth, Hope you enjoyed your holiday with friends 16 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.640 and family. Appreciate you spending some of your Friday morning wherever it is you 17 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:19.599 may be maybe heading up north, maybe coming back down south. Whatever the 18 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.840 case may be, Glad you're with us on Exes and Bros. We are 19 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:27.840 with you Monday through Friday, six until nine. Trent Bally's auri or producer. 20 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:32.799 I'm Matt Shepard. We welcome any of your thoughts on whatever it is 21 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:36.959 you may be thinking in the world of sports on the Meyer hotline eight sixty 22 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:40.599 six eighty three, eight forty eight forty three. You can text Sports Radio 23 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:44.239 to twenty one thousand if you want to jump on board that way. Twins 24 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:49.040 win the series from the Tigers with a twelve to three to seven inning blowout. 25 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:53.680 Thursday, Kent Tomayta suffers another loss. Detroit is in Cincinnati for the 26 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:57.599 first of three starting today. A Reds team that has won three in a 27 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:02.239 row just swept the Yankees, first time they've swept a Yankees team in a 28 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:07.000 regular season series in over ten years, and they're starting to play much better 29 00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:14.039 baseball. Rees Olsen will throw against Carson Spears here tonight first round of the 30 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:19.319 Jehan Diale Classic. Hayden Springer, The twenty seven year old cards a twelve 31 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:23.479 hunder fifty nine, the fourteenth ever sub sixties score in PGA history in the 32 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:28.439 second this year. Cam Young did it at the Travelers a few weeks ago. 33 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:32.560 By the way, did you see what Jesse Winker did? So yesterday 34 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:36.159 people are all decked out in their red, white and blue, and I 35 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.840 love that all right. I had my American flag t shirt on all day 36 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:47.319 long, Jesse Winker in order to celebrate July fourth, Jesse Winker hit a 37 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:54.879 clutch home run and then threw on the most patriotic outfit of all time. 38 00:02:55.439 --> 00:03:01.439 He looked like the second coming of Carl Weathers In so Jesse Winker. In 39 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:05.960 case you're wondering, he plays for the Washington Nationals. How appropriate is that? 40 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:09.000 And had a chance. I've had a chance to talk to him on 41 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:13.400 a number of different occasions. He's a different cat, but he's uh, 42 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:16.360 he's a pretty cool dude. He's not afraid to share his opinion with you. 43 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:22.680 He goes yard right center field, no problem there, his tenth of 44 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:27.840 the year, and upon the home run, he crossed his home plate. 45 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.439 He takes his time, he points to people like like everybody does. Then 46 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:38.879 he throws on an an American A tribute to the July fourth celebration with and 47 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:43.000 it's really it's the entire Nationals team. He's got a top hat with the 48 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.080 American flag wearing it, and I thought he put out a coat too. 49 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.599 He put on a red, white and blue Star spangled coat as well. 50 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:55.159 It's pretty cool when we can put that up whenever Trent wants to as well. 51 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:59.520 If if you missed it, it's it's pretty awesome. So I just 52 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:03.680 want to make sure I mentioned that because it's a it's we talk about personality, 53 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:09.360 right, We talked about what he didn't take forever to get around the 54 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:15.879 bases. The celebration did not halt anything. He gets, he gets the 55 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:17.680 hat on the top of the steps, he walks into the dugout, puts 56 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:23.399 on the coat, and there you go. That's personality, that's production, 57 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:28.240 and that's professionalism, and it's clatch. He was pinch hitting. Yeah, 58 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:31.800 it's pretty awesome. It's pretty awesome. Anyway. Our poll question, what'd 59 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:34.519 you grow on the fourth of July? Burgers, hot dogs, chicken or 60 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:40.720 other. Now my wife doesn't eat red meat, so we had I grow 61 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:45.480 burgers and she had a turkey burger. I don't know what that would fall 62 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:48.839 under, but I'm just gonna I'll circle burgers. That'll be the check for 63 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:56.879 me if you grilled anything other. I don't know many people grill steak on 64 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:00.199 Fourth of July. Usually it's burgers or hot dogs. But there's so many 65 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:02.319 people now toward chicken. That's why we gave you those choices. And then 66 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:06.920 other vote as often as you want. Ex'es and bros on X will give 67 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:12.560 the results on Monday. What are the results from Wednesday? Now? Wednesday 68 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:18.519 we asked you this is it time to start questioning the iSER plan because Steve 69 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:28.199 Eiserman has not necessarily he hasn't really overwhelmed you in the off season so far. 70 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:33.079 He's made a couple of moves that were probably necessary, right, I 71 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:36.199 mean Cam Talbot, I mean my son said to me the other day, 72 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:41.920 He's like, really, Cam Talbot, Dad, And then I reminded him 73 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:49.879 that Vladimir Tarasenko two year deal, cap friendly for the most part, productive 74 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:57.519 player, proven winner, top six guy. Maybe they're maybe you're not getting 75 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:02.079 the defense that you necessarily wanted. Anyway, Tarasenko, you know, it's 76 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:05.560 a former forty goal scorer. He's not going to score forty, I doubt 77 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:09.680 for the Red Wings, but he'll give you over twenty and he'll take that 78 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:15.439 anyway. What the results from the Wednesday poll? Question, Trent, is 79 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.000 it time to get on board or is it time to get off with the 80 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:23.519 iSER plan? What's it? Do you start questioning it? What was it? 81 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:27.000 Yes or no? What is it time to start questioning the iSER plan? 82 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:30.439 It was a dead heat? No, be patient. Got fifty one 83 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.000 percent of the vote, forty nine percent of you say absolutely, got some 84 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:38.360 great responses on X. Of course you guys can always respond chime in there, 85 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.920 but kind of a it's it's fifty to fifty, and I think that's 86 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:44.360 kind of indicative of where the fan base is at. When don't you say? 87 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:47.560 Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, I expected a little bit 88 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:51.839 more. No, but I like the balance. It's good stuff. Let's 89 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:58.079 go to the phone lines and the Meyer hotline eight six eight three eight forty 90 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:01.160 eight forty three. Who's up next? We've got Mark from gun Lake Mark, 91 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:03.920 Good morning. I hope you had a good fourth Oh yeah, yeah. 92 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:08.279 We did chicken gobobs on the grills, so that was fun. It's 93 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:13.040 always fun putting those together. But no, Eisaman got Patrick Kane for another 94 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.439 year, didn't he he did? Yep, got Patrick Kane for another year. 95 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:19.439 Trade you know, signed Gustafson as a as a defenseman to take the 96 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:24.680 place of Gosta Spear. I'm just I'm wondering if people thought they were going 97 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:28.720 to do a little bit more defensively, But go ahead, I think Kane's 98 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:31.000 going to be a little healthier too. But what I wanted to say is, 99 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:38.800 last half hour you were talking about the Steelers and NBC Game of the 100 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:44.360 Week AFC. It was an AFC playoff game. It was the Oilers and 101 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:49.720 the Steelers and Earl Campbell of course, was on Houston and he was running 102 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:57.240 down the sideline in front of the Steelers bench and Donnie Shell. I never 103 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:00.800 seen anybody hit as hard as he did for what was he like five eleven 104 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:05.439 one ninety and Campbell was like five eleven two thirty or something like that, 105 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.480 and he lit him up, and I was like the Steeler bench went crazy. 106 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:13.199 And when you talk about those old games, those old times with those 107 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:18.199 old players, that's the biggest play I can ever remember was when Earl Campbell 108 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:20.879 got his bell run by Donniechelle. Do you remember Donnishelle? Oh yeah, 109 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.519 Donni Sheelle was a hell of a player, and I remember Earl Campbell. 110 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:30.120 Well, Earl Campbell probably was my favorite running back as a kid growing up. 111 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:33.039 He came out of Texas as Heisman Trophy winner. He didn't play until 112 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:37.720 seventy eight, though, And I do remember the one year I think it 113 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:41.840 was seventy it might have been seventy nine when the Steelers beat the Oilers. 114 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.960 Mike Renfro had a catch in the back of the end zone. If there 115 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.120 was instant replay back, then it would have counted. Instead, they said 116 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:52.080 he was out of bounds. Yes, yep, I do remember that. 117 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:56.519 And I remember the Monday night game with Houston Oilers with Cosell and the gang 118 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:01.960 and Earl Campbell just had an unbelievable game that night, going down the sidelines 119 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:05.480 and he was really fast for being as heavy as he was at all. 120 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:07.639 Oh yeah, I mean and that was against Miami. I remember that. 121 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.159 That was against Miami. That's a well, you're bringing back a lot of 122 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.039 memories. Thanks for the phone call. I appreciate it. We got to 123 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.759 hit a break. Uh, okay, you have a great day. Yeah 124 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:18.240 you too, thanks a lot. Yeah, that was good stuff. Earl 125 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:24.120 Campbell was a phenomenal player, led the league in his first three years in 126 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:31.080 rushing and yards per game and touchdowns. He was the MVP his second year 127 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:37.480 in the league. He was an absolute battering ram. He was a bad 128 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:39.919 bad man. Five eleven, two thirty two is what they had him listed. 129 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:45.080 A quick time out them back with more Exes and Bros. As we 130 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:50.440 reminisce on occasion here on Exes and Bros. 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I think I think offensive 165 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:03.240 linemen in general, yeah, are underappreciated. I've said this for twenty plus 166 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:09.200 years. Frank Ragnow has taken twentieth overall in the twenty eighteen draft. He 167 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:20.600 has been a three time Pro Bowler and a two time All Pro, which 168 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.519 means more to me. I mean, the Pro bowler is one thing I 169 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:28.240 think being an All Pro, his second team All Pro twice. That means 170 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:35.080 more. I hope he can stay healthy, I really do. One of 171 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:41.360 the few things that Bob Quinn nailed was Frank ragnow exactly exactly and Taylor Decker 172 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:43.720 for that matter. To go along with this offensive line rhetoric, yeah, 173 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:48.879 absolutely, I mean Taylor Decker has been a very steady player, the longest 174 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:54.679 tenured in Detroit lion on the roster right. Look, he's not Anthony Munos, 175 00:13:54.960 --> 00:14:01.559 he's not Jackie Slater, but that's okay. He's been a reliable player 176 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:11.480 every single year now. People felt like he needed to be I don't know 177 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:18.200 much much more dominating. Is that fair? I think people feel that way. 178 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:24.039 Yeah, he's better than Riley Reeve. Is he better than Jeff Backus? 179 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:28.519 Do you think he's better than Jeff Bacchus. When Jeff Backus was, 180 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.279 you know, a first round pick out of the University of Michigan. He's 181 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:37.600 played on better teams, There's no doubt about that. You kind of open 182 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:41.759 a can of worms there with the Ohio State versus Michigan rhetoric. Yeah, 183 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:46.879 a little bit, yes, but think about it. I mean, Bob 184 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:56.840 Quinn, Kenny Galladay, no, right, yeah became. He was actually 185 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:03.639 a Pro Bowler's the third round pick, but went to the Giants and did 186 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:07.799 absolutely nothing nothing. He was excellent with Matthew Stafford. Yeah, but he 187 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:16.240 was as another wide receiver or player who catches passes who became was really much 188 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:20.440 better under with Stafford than anybody else. But he was the first receiver to 189 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:26.039 make the Pro Bowl since Calvin Johnson. If you recall, and as you 190 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:31.840 mentioned Frank Ragnow twenty eighteen, he was their most improved player in twenty nineteen. 191 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:39.080 According to Pro Football Focus, Graham Glasgow was a third round pick by 192 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:48.679 Quinn. Remember Ashawn Robinson, he was a second round pick. These guys 193 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.759 aren't necessarily I mean, I think Ragnow is a hell of a player. 194 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:58.000 The other guys, you know, they're just guys. For the most part, 195 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:02.519 I thought Ashawn Robinson was going to be a lot better than he was. 196 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:07.759 I really did. I thought he was going to be a beast of 197 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:15.559 a defensive tackle. But anyway, CBA sports an NFL dot Com right that 198 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:25.840 the most underappreciated Lion is Jamiir Gribbs. Jamiir Gibbs is the Did you get 199 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:30.559 a sense that he's a guy who was underappreciated by Lions fans. No, 200 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:33.919 I don't see that at all. With all due respect to whoever wrote this 201 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:36.919 article, I do not see that at all. I guess maybe the angle 202 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:41.720 is just David Montgomery gets he's your bellcow guy. But Jamir Gibbs has worked 203 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:47.200 in pretty heavily. He's a pro bowler. Yeah, and people love him. 204 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:49.159 The fans love him. I don't think he's underappreciated at all. Maybe 205 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:53.279 from a national perspective a little bit. And also shep if you go back 206 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:57.960 to the draft when they initially took him, I mean some of the that's 207 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:00.559 it, some of the reactions and was that they reached a little bit for 208 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:04.400 him. So maybe from it you hit it, Yeah, you hit it 209 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:11.880 right on the head. That's where it comes into play. Because people booed 210 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:18.119 the pick. We did collectively. People booed the pick. They literally said 211 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:22.920 to themselves under their breath or what or out loud they said, what the 212 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:27.000 hell are you doing? Yeah, that's a reach, that's a reach. 213 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:33.319 Are you kidding me? A running back there. National pundits did the same 214 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:40.599 thing, didn't they. Oh yeah, extremely critical of it, constantly knocking 215 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:45.720 it dead panning it and a lot of it had to do with the Lion. 216 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:48.960 I think a lot of people wanted the Lions to take Jalen Carter. 217 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:53.799 And that's kind of that. He's been a good player for the Eagles in 218 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:59.680 his first year. Well that's because of a couple of reasons. Right, 219 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:07.119 but you need when it was in need. And two he was highly decorated. 220 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:14.200 He played for a national champion team. Yep, people don't Jamior Gibbs 221 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:21.400 did too. But people don't value right or wrong. They do not value 222 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:26.839 running backs like they used to. We just talked about, you know when 223 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:30.359 I was watching America's game that on NFL Network, and I brought up Franco 224 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:34.000 Harris, and I brought up John Riggins, and somebody one of the callers 225 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:38.920 brought it, brought up Earl Campbell. And for good reason, those guys, 226 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:45.519 those guys were carrying it on a regular basis. They were really important 227 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:48.240 to the team's offenses. You've got to be able to run the football. 228 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:53.200 Now. You need your running back to catch the football more than anything else. 229 00:18:53.400 --> 00:19:00.759 Why because that is an extension of your run game. That is your 230 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:08.160 running game. Your running game isn't turn and go fifty veer. Your running 231 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:12.559 game is now play action. Let's toss it out to our tailback in the 232 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:18.359 flat and let him go from there. That's our running game. Shop quickly. 233 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:21.920 Another thing here that I that I As time has gone on, it's 234 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:25.160 aged well. But at that time when they drafted Gibbs, they still had 235 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:29.039 DeAndre Swift on the roster that was a question, and they had also just 236 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:33.880 signed David Montgomery. So I think all those things taken into consideration. I 237 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:37.400 think that's that's another reason the pick was so panned. Well, who's laughing 238 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:42.920 now exactly? You know who's laughing, Brad Holmes. He could be laughing 239 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:49.640 if he wanted to Dan Campbell, Ben Johnson and Jimior Gibbs. Why do 240 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:55.119 we forget And I'm not saying that it's I'm not going to sit here and 241 00:19:55.160 --> 00:20:00.400 tell you that I love the pick, either, But why do we oftentimes 242 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:10.440 forget that in football you need depth. It's because we want that depth to 243 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:18.319 come in a different round. We want impact players right away. Guess what, 244 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:25.440 Jamiir Gibbs is a really impactful player. There are so many different ways 245 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:32.200 to build it, and this usually comes full circle to what we talk about 246 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:37.000 oftentimes on the show. And that's the trust in a manager, coach, 247 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:41.759 general manager, team president, whatever the title might be. A decision maker 248 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:49.319 we feel needs to earn our trust, and we're one hundred percent right in 249 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:56.599 that regard. I don't know when Brad Holmes earned your trust, but what's 250 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:03.599 funny is he probably earned it with the pick. You hated most Jamior Gibbs 251 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:08.680 people that want to use that Campbell pick. They didn't love the Laporta pic 252 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:11.839 right, they didn't love any of those, but they worked out, right, 253 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:15.759 They've all worked out. You stood from the mountaintops, you stood from 254 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:21.519 the top of your house and said this pick sucks. What is he doing? 255 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:26.079 Yep? And then by the end of the year you said, these 256 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.079 picks are all great. I love what you're doing. Look how bright the 257 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:40.079 future is. Right, And that's probably when that word trust really was emboldened 258 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:48.759 toward Brad Holmes. Phone number on the Meyer hotline is eight six six eight 259 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.559 three eight forty eight forty three. Were back with more of your thoughts here 260 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:56.279 on ex'es and bros. 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It's 286 00:23:53.960 --> 00:24:00.839 great what Brad Holmes has done and Dan Campbell. They put together an exciting 287 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:06.839 product, a young product that figures to be you know, with this franchise 288 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:10.960 for a long time, which is really exciting. It reminded me. I 289 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:15.920 tweeted this out yesterday while I was watching America's game and watching the seventy four 290 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.599 Steelers and the seventy five Steelers and the seventy six Raiders, and what the 291 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:22.240 Steelers did in the late seventies, seventy eight and seventy nine as well, 292 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:26.839 and then the Niners, and you know, you have this turning point of 293 00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:33.640 dominance, right and you see the Niners beat the Cowboys with the catch in 294 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:38.160 eighty one and Dwight Clark on the receiving end, and that's when you realize, 295 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:45.400 like, okay, that was a moment that forced to shift for a 296 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.039 period of time, not for all time, but a period of time. 297 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:55.200 San Francisco became much more relevant. Pittsburgh won a game earlier in seventy four 298 00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.960 that kind of changed everything. Frank o'herry and a lot of the players said, 299 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:06.119 that was the game, and it was I believe it was against the 300 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:11.319 Raiders early in the playoffs, and they said, that's when we knew, 301 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:17.359 we knew we were good enough. Chuck Noele said to them, guys, 302 00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:22.160 the best team in the world is right here. You guys are the best 303 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.920 team in America. And Joe Green said, you know, nothing else needed 304 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:32.759 to be said, and we went out and we dominated the game. When 305 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:37.240 I see that and then I tweeted, I wonder if they'll be doing a 306 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.480 similar type of show about the Lions sometime soon. So the first time in 307 00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:45.519 my life, I truly believe that could take place twenty twenty four, question 308 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:52.440 mark. That's what I tweeted out yesterday. And I think I believe that. 309 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:57.160 I truly believe it because that they are drafting and developing the right people. 310 00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:03.000 You look at Bob Quinn's draft picks and you're thinking, sorry, I 311 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:08.240 don't think Brad Holmes, like this is all revision is history. It's easy 312 00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:15.640 to say, I think Brad Holmes back in twenty seventeen probably takes TJ. 313 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:21.519 Watt to Davious White. How about anyone other than Jolani Tavai in the second 314 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:27.839 round or instead of Jared Davis? Yeah, right, who just didn't quite 315 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:33.240 fit right? And we've given we've given Bob Quinn as flowers. I mean, 316 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:37.440 we talked in the last segment about Taylor Decker Frank Ragnow two pretty solid 317 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:42.480 home run all pro type level guys, right, But there's also for every 318 00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:48.319 one of those guys, there's a Jelani Tavai or a Jared Davis, or 319 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.000 a tease table or a trade for Jamie Collins or a signing like Danny Shelton, 320 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:56.519 any of the Patriot way shapp remember that, Yeah, oh yeah, 321 00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:00.960 yeah, yeah, it's got to be his way, right because he's terrible. 322 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.960 Yeah, because he's the smartest guy in the in the room of course 323 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:11.599 Russia for sure. Yeah, And they can't wait to tell you see what 324 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.559 I did. This is what I did. This is you watch. I 325 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:21.400 remember watching Michael Roberts play at Toledo as a tight end and thought he was 326 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:23.519 a good player. I thought it was going to be a good pick. 327 00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:26.359 I didn't think it was a great pick, but it was a fourth round 328 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:32.319 choice. One thing that perhaps they don't get credit for is Jalen Reeve Mabon. 329 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:37.839 He's been a solid player, but he's a special teamer for the most 330 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.400 part. He was also a fourth round choice. I'll reiterate what I say 331 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:47.160 all the time when it comes to football, and I've had football writers debate 332 00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:51.000 me on this, and it's a fun debate. It really is. You 333 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:56.559 have to hit on your first round picks, no doubt. They have to 334 00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:03.000 be starters for you. Those picks are so so valuable, vital. If 335 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:08.160 it's not a quarterback other than a quarterback, I think they have to be 336 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:12.079 a starter. Like I don't believe you've got to start your quarterback right away. 337 00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:18.079 So I'm going to alleviate that. Everything else, they've got to be 338 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:23.519 starters for you. Your second round choices should be starters for you. Your 339 00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:30.039 third round choices should be contributors everything after that. If they're special teams, 340 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:36.240 if they're backups, if they're you know, depth guys, I'm okay with 341 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:42.079 that, it's fine. But when you get Bob Quinn and he gets his 342 00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:52.759 first round picks of guys like Jared Davis and it didn't work out, that's 343 00:28:52.799 --> 00:29:00.519 an issue that sets you back. Frank rag Now is starter. That was 344 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:04.000 great. Carrie and Johnson if you remember him, he was the second round 345 00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:07.279 pick. He was a starter for a while and but was hurt too much. 346 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.160 There are some picks that I really liked and I thought were going to 347 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.599 work out, and they didn't work out. So, for example, one 348 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:19.599 of the guys I really liked that they took was DeShawn Hand. He was 349 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:26.000 a defensive tackle out of Alabama. Didn't work out. Yeah, they tried 350 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:27.920 pairing him up with Ashawn Robinson, who he mentioned earlier. As well. 351 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:33.079 Both those guys came from Bama. Right, didn't work out, but shep 352 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.480 I think they took Remember this though, they did take TJ. Hockinson, 353 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.319 and t J. Hockinson turned out to be a damn good player. Here's 354 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:48.480 the two that killed Bob Quinn. What are they? Jeff Acuda that's a 355 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:55.799 first round pick, third overall, right, that's a that's an absolute killer. 356 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:02.839 That's the that's primarily the reason you looked at Bob Quinn and said, 357 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.319 you don't know what you're doing well. And maybe this says more about Patricia, 358 00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:10.720 but I remember jeff Alkudah was a healthy scratch week one of his rookie 359 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:15.799 season. I remember everyone the discourse online, the disgust of just what are 360 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:19.240 we doing? You pick a guy third overall and he's a healthy scratch week 361 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:25.039 one. So I think it's fair to say that part of their downfall was 362 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:30.279 Jared Davis as a first round pick, Tease Tabor as a second round pick, 363 00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:33.440 and Jeffrey Cuda as a first round pick. I think fans for the 364 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:41.039 most part, can understand and relate to missing out on a fourth or a 365 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.559 fifth round choice. You didn't hit a home run there, but you've got 366 00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.079 to hit extra bases. I'll use a different metaphor for a different sport. 367 00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.839 You've got to hit extra bases on your high draft picks, have to. 368 00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:57.240 And then you look go what Brad Holmes has done, and you see how 369 00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:03.079 well he has manned the draft. Oh, chef, it's a clinic. 370 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.160 You can even look. You don't have to look any further than last season, 371 00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:08.880 right or last year. I should say Brian Branch, Sam Laporta, 372 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:17.400 both second round picks, both not only starters, heavy strong contributors to an 373 00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:25.000 NFC Championship game run. Not just that Laporte is now viewed as one of 374 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:29.519 the best tight ends in football top five. And what I would argue is 375 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:34.920 that it's not just their skill, it's how they fit your team slash system 376 00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:41.000 as much as anything else. So yeah, it's great that they're getting production 377 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.319 from these guys. I don't care if it's Gibbs, I don't care if 378 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.119 it's Laporta, I don't care if it's Campbell, I don't care if it's 379 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:53.720 Brian Branch, whatever, they're getting contributions. Some would argue the cynic and 380 00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.319 some people would say, well, when you got a team that's as bad 381 00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.240 as the Lions. Of course, you're going to bring in guys. It 382 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.519 can't get any worse. So you're gonna put young guys into a position and 383 00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:09.160 they're going to help your team. My point is they fit a system that 384 00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:15.640 accelerates the learning curve and makes them and the team in general, but makes 385 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:22.680 them key contributors because you're putting in them in spots where they can be successful. 386 00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:28.359 With all those guys, right, and we talk about Jared Goff, 387 00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.960 a quarterback who has had a lot of success in the league. Right, 388 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:34.200 He's been to a Super Bowl, He's been to a couple NFC Championship games. 389 00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:37.839 He trusts Laporta from day one. What does that say about Sam Laporta? 390 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.279 What does that say about Brad Holmes? Yeah? For sure, absolutely, 391 00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:45.200 But just as important, what do we go back to all the time? 392 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:50.880 We go back to how many of our guys, right, how many 393 00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:55.839 of our guys would the other team want? And that's the beauty of what 394 00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.480 is going on with the Lions right now, is there's a lot of guys 395 00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:08.759 on their team right now that other players want. Now. I would caution, 396 00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:15.599 just caution for a moment, because if you look at first round picks, 397 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:17.799 and we said you got to hit home runs there, Bob Quinn, 398 00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.960 who I would never defend, but he did hit a home run I think 399 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:28.599 at least extra basis with Taylor Decker, Frank Ragnow and TJ. Hockinson. 400 00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:34.400 So he got three out of five, right, yeah, okay, So 401 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:40.119 Brad Holmes has hit Homer's on Penny Sewell, Aiden Hutchinson. We think Jamiir 402 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.839 Gibbs and Jack Campbell. We're not sure about Jamison Williams yet, and we 403 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.119 have no idea what Terry on Arnold, even though I think I speak for 404 00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.160 you, we both like him, right yeah, yeah, okay, But 405 00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:57.079 I also just quickly I want to hammer this home. Not only was Penny 406 00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.640 Sewell a home run that's out of the park, that he was your analogy? 407 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:04.000 Oh absolutely, I mean that's a standing ovation right there. Absolutely. 408 00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.119 Yeah. But people didn't. I don't. I don't want to say people 409 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.199 didn't like it. People were less enamored with it. And the reason is 410 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:17.679 because it's an offensive lineman. People are like, eh, okay, whatever 411 00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:24.360 they think they can get by without it. Was there good fortune along the 412 00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:31.519 way? Absolutely like Jacksonville taking Trevon Walker instead of Aiden Hutchinson. Yep, 413 00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:37.760 but that's okay, there's there's nothing wrong with that. You gotta get a 414 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.360 little bit lucky to win championships, to be a winning culture, year in 415 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:44.639 year out, you have to get a little lucky. People don't like to 416 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.840 admit that, but yeah, you gotta have you gotta have some bounces go 417 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.400 your way. Yeah, because they've gone against you exactly. Now, would 418 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:59.880 you would you rather have somebody other than Jamison Williams? I suppose so. 419 00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:04.360 Remember they traded up to get him, so two first round picks for Detroit. 420 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:08.199 Aiden Hutchinson went number two overall and what was it was Williams like twelve 421 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:13.199 twelve? Yeah, the Lions traded up with the Vikings. Yeah, who 422 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:15.800 would you have rather taken instead of him? I'm not giving up on him 423 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:20.920 because I think he's going to be a good player. How long will he 424 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.039 be a Lion? Would I break the bank for him? I don't know. 425 00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:30.760 I remember there was a kid out of Notre Dame, a safety out 426 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:37.840 of Notre Dame who I really really liked, and he's been an outstanding player 427 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:43.880 for Baltimore. His name is Kyle Hamilton, And would I rather have him? 428 00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:50.400 Probably? Yeah? But Jamison Williams. This is a massive year for 429 00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:54.280 Jamison Williams. Huge, huge, huge. I would argue this. I 430 00:35:54.320 --> 00:36:01.480 think it's if there's anybody who if there's anybody who needs a big season, 431 00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:10.199 if there is some type of final resolution on what that player is going to 432 00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:16.239 be, it's this year with Jamison Williams. People are going to make up 433 00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:23.199 their mind about Jamison Williams this year if they haven't already. Okay, I 434 00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:29.559 think that's how important it is for him. What I find interesting about this 435 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:34.400 chef just I'll make this quick is I think despite that, and I agree 436 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.280 with you, he's still a fan favorite. I mean, people have been 437 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.360 patient with him, so I think if that's the biggest concern with one of 438 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:44.440 Brad Holmes draft picks, I think we're doing all right. Well. The 439 00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:47.559 reason they've been patient with him, I don't know if patience is the right 440 00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:51.719 word. He hasn't had a full season yet, you know, I mean, 441 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:53.760 right injured coming into his rookie year, and then everyone knows about the 442 00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:58.679 gambling scandal last year. Was supposed to be a six game suspension got appealed 443 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.440 down to three. So I don't I'm not going to say it's patience. 444 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:08.920 I think people have almost forgotten him to a certain extent because the team's been 445 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:15.079 successful. See, if this team's not winning, they're blaming it on Jamison 446 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:22.480 Williams. But because this team's winning, they're willing to overlook Because at the 447 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:28.760 beginning of last year, when he was out, people were pissed, and 448 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:32.840 rightfully so because of the gambling situation. So people were not happy. But 449 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:37.880 as the team wins, as the success roles, you think to yourself, 450 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:42.519 Okay, well it's not hurting us like I thought it would, so I'm 451 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.679 okay with it. Right. So then it almost turns into a situation where 452 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:49.360 it's like anything he can give you is gravy. Almost it's gravy, right, 453 00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:51.960 because the team was winning and off to a hot start and beating the 454 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.559 Chiefs without him. Right, But now what's changed this year? First of 455 00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:01.440 all, you've lost Josh Reynolds, so Williams is thrust into what we consider 456 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:06.840 to be a bigger role. Second of all, the stakes are higher, 457 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:13.199 the expectation is greater. It is literally, for the first time in my 458 00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:17.360 lifetime, super Bowl or bust. I know that sounds harsh, but it's 459 00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:23.800 very true. If this team stays healthy. As long as it stays healthy, 460 00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:30.920 this team is expected to make the Super Bowl. Let that marinate for 461 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:36.480 a second. We're talking about the Detroit Lions and the expectation is to make 462 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:44.039 the Super Bowl. Well, Jamison Williams is a piece to what people thought 463 00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:50.199 needed an upgrade. It was the defensive backfield and it was the quote unquote 464 00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:57.679 third wide receiver. Well, Jamison Williams now has that opportunity and everybody the 465 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:01.239 expectation is not there just or the team, but it's for him individually, 466 00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:10.400 and it's appropriate pressure. This is the guy that everybody has felt like can 467 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:15.159 be a number one, He can be a downfield threat, he can stretch 468 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:20.920 the field. Right. Well, if that's the case, okay, then 469 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:27.400 let's go. This has got to be it. I don't think it's as 470 00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:32.199 much patience with him a year ago as it was. We can live with 471 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:37.039 the sin because it's not hurting our team as much as we thought it was 472 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.079 going to hurt it. I could be wrong there, but that's the sense 473 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:46.079 that I got with the Lions and Shep. I think it's okay for the 474 00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:51.840 expectations to be super Bowl or bust. And for the first time, in 475 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:53.199 my life. I'm only twenty four, but for the first time in my 476 00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:59.000 life that is I mean, that's the case, right, because it's realistic, 477 00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:02.159 it is realistic within reach, and unless you win the NFC North again 478 00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:06.559 and win twelve games again, anything short of that should be a failure. 479 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:19.960 Yeah. There was an article yesterday which team will underperform and overperform, And 480 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.880 I'll be honest with you, my fear was like, oh boy, are 481 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.719 they going to write the Lions for underperforming? The Lions weren't mentioned in any 482 00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.639 of it. I think, you know a team that's going to underperform is 483 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:36.480 probably Baltimore. The expectation is so high for Baltimore, and I think their 484 00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:39.360 division is so good, and I think the AFC is getting better. I 485 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:43.920 think the Chargers are going to be better. People have high expectations for the 486 00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:49.039 Texans, the Jets. Yeah, the Jets, which I think is I 487 00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:52.239 mean, their defense is so good, but you're asking an awful lot of 488 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.400 a forty year old coming off a really nasty injury. Absolutely, but I 489 00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.760 really think they're going to underperform. And I think the team that might overperform 490 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:01.800 though they play in a tough division. Even though I think it's going to 491 00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:07.519 be tough for them in general is Chicago. Yeah, and you brought up 492 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:12.440 the Jets. The Jets are what really good defensively correct, very really good, 493 00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.000 top five. Yeah. The Bears are really good defensively too. And 494 00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:20.519 the Bears weren't your typical first overall pick team. I mean they won seven 495 00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.559 games. That was Carolina's pick. They had at number one to pick Caleb 496 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:28.400 Williams. Correct, So that's a bit of a unique situation, very unique. 497 00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:30.840 But I thought that was a good article. Going back to how this 498 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:37.320 whole conversation started, they had Jamier Gibbs as the underappreciated player, and both 499 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:44.360 Trent and I feel like it's Frank Ragnow. I think Gibbs is really highly 500 00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:49.960 appreciated. At least in Detroit. They love him. And what's not to 501 00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:54.559 love when you lead all rookies in touchdowns with rushing touchdowns with ten and you 502 00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:59.519 got the second most rushing yards and third most yards from scrimmage. What's not 503 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:01.920 to love? A lot of twenty six jerseys in ford Field. And there'll 504 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:06.719 probably be me more speaking of love, love doing this show with you. 505 00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.159 Appreciate it very much. Glad you were with us. All morning long. 506 00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:14.079 We wish you a great weekend. Hope you're back with us on Monday morning. 507 00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:17.119 Our thanks to Trent Bally, Our thanks to your texts and your phone 508 00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.800 calls. Again. 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