WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:06.839 You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM six forty. Yep, 2 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:11.839 you are, and this is KFI Handle here morning crew or up till nine 3 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:15.320 o'clock every single day. I don't think I've ever said that, by the 4 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:22.039 way, this early in the show, just lam okay, never mind. 5 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:27.839 Let me tell you about AT and T, my absolute favorite carrier in the 6 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:31.359 whole world. For those of you that have AT and T cell service, 7 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:34.640 you hate it, all right? I had it. I hated it. 8 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:37.560 But then again, that's not saying much because I've had a bunch of other 9 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:41.920 ones that I hate all of them too. I get calls every Saturday about 10 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:48.560 how horrible cell phone service is. But a lot of people have cell phones, 11 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:52.359 and a lot of people, I would say most people, the vast 12 00:00:52.399 --> 00:01:02.159 majority of people, use the Internet as the source of their ability to communicate. 13 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:07.640 There is something called a landline service, and it has changed landline service, 14 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:11.400 and I made sure when I started, when I moved into the Persian 15 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:15.879 Palace twenty five years ago, I made absolutely sure I had a landline. 16 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:23.640 A landline being a copper wire that goes to your phones to your house. 17 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:33.079 And early on we had VoIP voiceover using the Internet in early days, and 18 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:37.519 the technology is just ramped up to the point where everybody's using the Internet or 19 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:42.000 cell phones, cell towers. But here's where the landline makes absolute sense. 20 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:47.120 And this is what I always thought. If the cell phone tower goes out, 21 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:51.959 if the internet goes out, you can't make a phone call. How 22 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:55.439 often does the internet go out. I've had to go out a bunch of 23 00:01:55.439 --> 00:02:00.799 times. I've had various areas where cell phones don't work very well. But 24 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:05.560 at my house, I always had a landline. I always had a copper 25 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:10.840 landline. Well. At and T, which provides the company that provides copper 26 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:17.000 landlines southern California. Once out, they're saying it's expensive to maintain, it's 27 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:22.280 expensive to support, and we want out. And they went in front of 28 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:28.000 the Public Utility Commission to get out of it, arguing that it's impossible to 29 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:32.520 maintain, it's too expensive to install or to support, therefore we want out. 30 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:38.159 Here's the problem AT and T has it's considered a carryer of glast resort 31 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:45.319 requires the company to offer basic phone service to anyone who wants it basic phone 32 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:50.439 service, and this since nineteen ninety six and remains one of the only companies 33 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:55.319 in the state, actually in the country to offer traditional copper based landline service, 34 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:01.199 and they're saying, you know what, we really can't afford it, 35 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:06.439 like DSL lines that we used to use, which we don't use now. 36 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:09.879 We broadcast with the internet, and if the Internet goes down, well we've 37 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:13.479 got a real problem talking to each other. I mean, we can still 38 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:16.199 transmit, but we can't get any information. You can't get anything on the 39 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:21.319 internet. You can't pull any information out. You're screwed. You're just talking. 40 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:29.879 So AT and T goes in front of the PUC and argues, let 41 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:34.400 us out of this thing. It's costing too much money. A lot of 42 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:38.599 backlash, especially among older people, people that don't have computers. If you 43 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:42.759 ever listen to Handle on the log you know how many times or I have 44 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:49.360 said, just use your computer and you can research this or that, and 45 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:53.000 people go, I don't have a computer. I'm old, I'm decrepit. 46 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:58.159 And I asked, you know what a computer is, because I'm very gracious 47 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:02.360 to people, and sometimes they say no, and they have the only way 48 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:06.520 they can communicate with the phone is either via cell phone, which they don't 49 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:14.080 have, or that copper line and it's basically the last emergency way of communicating 50 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:20.759 and by law, AT and T has to maintain it because it is considered 51 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:24.879 a carrier of last resort. So they just went in front of the PUC 52 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:28.439 and the PU said, PUC said, no, you're not leaving, No, 53 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:33.040 thank you. You're still the carrier of last resort. Now I don't 54 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:38.800 even know because in my new place, which I haven't moved in yet and 55 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:42.279 so I really haven't set up anything other than Wi Fi, I don't even 56 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:46.160 know if I can get a land line a copper land line. Now they 57 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:51.519 call a land line that you can get but it's Internet supported. I go, 58 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:56.560 wait a minute, that's not a land line. A land line goes 59 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:03.560 through the land. It doesn't go through the air, it doesn't go on 60 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:11.360 a satellite. It's it's a landline. And I don't even know, Neil, 61 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:15.519 you're our techno, Maven. Can you even get a landline? Now? 62 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:21.240 That is a copper wire that goes through the land. In certain areas 63 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:25.480 they still have that wiring, but we've been told that they're going to be 64 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:28.959 getting rid of it. Yeah, that's what and that's what I buy landlines 65 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:32.920 because I was a big proponent of keeping one for emergencies. Right, everything 66 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:38.519 has switched to VoIP basically, right, and that is the problem. And 67 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:42.160 here's my question. They have to maintain it. But if you, for 68 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:46.839 example, I'm moving, I have to set up a phone coverage, if 69 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:49.839 I want a landline, if i'm if I'm ordering one, will they give 70 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:53.120 it to me. I have to look that up because that's one of the 71 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:57.319 things I want to look at out. Maybe they have to as a last 72 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:02.120 resort because when the internet goes out and when the cell service goes out, 73 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:09.439 let's say there's an earthquake, the last ability to communicate is with a copper 74 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:15.439 landline. That's the last one standing, last man standing. And so AT 75 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:20.279 and T wanted out. The PUC said no, thank you. AT and 76 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:25.759 T says it costs us money to maintain. The PUC said no, thank 77 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:30.040 you. AT and T keeps arguing. The PUC said, good luck, 78 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:34.839 it's not going to happen. It was the nanosment's unanimous decision which just happened. 79 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:41.480 And of course I'm going to read you the quote from AT and T. 80 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:46.680 We remain committed to keeping our customers connected to voice service and will continue 81 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:51.920 working with State leaders on policies that allow us to bring modern communications to Californians. 82 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:59.959 Any idea what that means other than complete hogwash? It's it's your typical. 83 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:05.199 Our customers are our most important part of our business. Airplane falls out 84 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:11.519 of the sky. We continue to maintain safety as the most important feature of 85 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:16.560 our company. Sure all right. One of the big issues that we're going 86 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:21.160 to see where I think Joe Biden is in a lot of trouble this election 87 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:27.920 coming up is the issue of immigration on a couple of levels. Simple immigration, 88 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:32.519 or simply put, immigration is something we're concerned about. Too many illegal 89 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:38.519 migrants coming over the border and asking for asylum, and by law they have 90 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:42.959 to be given a court hearing, and there's all kinds of controversy about that. 91 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:50.160 The other thing that is so important in this discussion are the politics. 92 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:57.920 Donald Trump is running on immigration as one of his platforms one of his big 93 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:01.720 issues. Is there a little hitocracy there? Of course there is. Finally, 94 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:07.160 Joe Biden came to the table a few months ago in a non partisan 95 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:13.800 or bipartisan deal. A bill was introduced that both Republicans and Democrats wanted to 96 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:22.399 pass, and Biden was prepared to sign it. Donald Trump calls the Speaker 97 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.439 Mike Johnson and says, kill that bill. That bill, by the way, 98 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:30.639 is exactly what the Republicans wanted. Why did that happen? Donald Trump 99 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:35.879 wants to win, wants to run on immigration, and an immigration bill that 100 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.960 Biden signs as bipartisan just cuts him off at the knees. That's the horrific 101 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:46.000 politics of this. The other side of it is Joe Biden pandering because all 102 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.519 of a sudden he has accepted immigration as a major issue. He comes into 103 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:58.600 his presidency and he is Emma Lazarus. There's a plaque at the base of 104 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.919 the Statue of Liberty, give me your wretched, give me your poor yearning 105 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.799 to be free. Okay, that means every immigrant coming in now. When 106 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.120 the Statue of Liberty was put up, we wanted immigrants to come in. 107 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:18.240 Now not so much, not so much because a number of illegal immigrants. 108 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:26.360 Numbers are astronomical, And so the Democrats have gone from open arms and all 109 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:31.960 of a sudden their arms start closing because you can't say give us everybody you 110 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:35.879 have. There's still some liberals that say there should be no borders. We 111 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:41.360 want everybody you can for Cynthi Fox, who was President of Mexico maybe twenty 112 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:46.720 five years ago, set it out right. There is no border. It's 113 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.799 just a line. Much like when you go to Nevada. The only thing 114 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:54.879 you know that you're going to Nevada is a sign that says welcome to Nevada. 115 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:58.960 That's it. That's the border between states. And that's what he wanted 116 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:05.240 as a border between the United States and Mexico. That's a problem. And 117 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:13.679 so now you have immigration could really sway congressional seats in the House. Here 118 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:18.679 in California. It can swing both ways, which means it's not just another 119 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:22.080 one or two congress people going one way or the other. It is the 120 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:28.919 control of the House we're talking about. And I can't wait to see the 121 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:35.559 debate where Trump is going to attack Biden on immigration policy, and I think 122 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:39.159 rightly so, I think Biden is wrong the wrong side of history on that 123 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:43.279 one. And then Biden is going to come back and say, but you 124 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:48.120 killed the bipartisan bill. Why did you do that? Who wins on that 125 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:56.039 one? I don't know, I don't know. You know, I'm pretty 126 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:01.600 liberal in many aspects LGBTQ rights and you know, abortion, etc. But 127 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:03.440 when it comes to the border, I got to tell you, you reach 128 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:09.039 a point when it comes to insane taxes, we reach a point where no, 129 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:11.360 thank you. You know you can't do that when it comes to spending 130 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:16.679 public money, my money, your money, and just throwing it at problems 131 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.919 and all the money just disappears into the abyss. You know, Conservatives have 132 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:28.320 a very good point. Let private enterprise run these companies. The problem is 133 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:35.519 private enterprise is so corrupt there there's no way to win on this. And 134 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:39.960 I think the same thing with immigration. So we'll see what happens with the 135 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.360 congressionals on this one, because that is really really important. And I think 136 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:52.600 the congressional the congressional races are going to be decided based on immigration policy. 137 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.720 I think that is the number one issue. All right, coming up, 138 00:11:56.759 --> 00:12:03.080 and Neil's gonna join me on this one. Dress code are they discrimination? 139 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:07.159 Are they discriminatory in restaurants? Since you can't see below the waist and you're 140 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:13.080 sitting down, can I go commando and still maintain address code? Much like 141 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:18.960 I'm broadcasting now from home, so you know, we're zooming each other and 142 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:22.000 so you can't see below the waist. Got us what pretty close on that 143 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:30.600 thing. Yeah, this is Jeffrey Tubin broadcasting live and this news literally came 144 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:35.360 down just a couple of minutes ago. And that is a decision by the 145 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:39.799 Supreme Court, which, as I told you yesterday, the last part of 146 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:46.080 June, it's decision after decision that comes down all the major cases we hear 147 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:50.039 about, and we'll see over the next few days more and more cases that 148 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:54.600 are decided, or at least they haven't decided. We're told about it. 149 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:58.240 And there was one Second Amendment case that was really important to the Second Amendment 150 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:07.559 advocates and there is a federal law and we talked about this that bans guns 151 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:16.600 for domestic abusers, and the gun advocates said that is a violation of Second 152 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:22.039 Amendment rights. Keep in mind, the gun advocates go nuts when it comes 153 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:28.559 to any restriction of firearms ownership. You know, for example, assault weapons 154 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:35.320 are not really assault weapons, they're sports weapons. And to keep assault weapons 155 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:43.159 being sold, they are saying that Second Amendment rights are violated. It's kind 156 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:45.960 of crazy, it really is. I mean, there is no limitation in 157 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.559 their argument. Slippery slope. That's it. You allow something and down it 158 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:56.559 goes. Well, the slippery slope just happened. The Supreme Court upheld the 159 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:03.360 law barring domestic abusers from owning guns. Federal law said, you know what, 160 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.559 there are certain people that can't own guns. One of those are felons, 161 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.919 which, by the way, that's being attacked by the Second Amendment because 162 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:16.360 if you are a felon and you get popped for anything not involving a gun, 163 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:20.879 you should be able to own a gun. How about if you got 164 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.559 popped four using a gun to murder someone. Okay, Second Amendment folks will 165 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:30.440 say, okay, we'll give you that one. Not a problem. It 166 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:35.360 is wide open. And so the argument. And by the way, anytime 167 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:39.159 there's a federal law prohibiting anything dealing with guns, Second Amendment folks are going 168 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:45.080 to hit it because their philosophy is very simple, and that is, you 169 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:50.200 can't pass laws restricting the ownership of guns. And by the way, the 170 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:56.480 argument with the assault weapons literally, even though they are designed to kill people, 171 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:01.480 that is it. They are not designed for sport. They are not 172 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:07.360 designed for example, protection of your home. Well at least that's certainly what 173 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:13.559 the manufacturers are going to say, that they're designed for everything. I like 174 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:16.559 the sports argument by the way, that one I really like. It's like 175 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:26.440 hunting rifles. So the Feds pass this law. Domestic abusers are so dangerous 176 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:33.799 that we're not going to let them have a weapon. Why not? Well, 177 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:39.240 it really isn't there's no connection. You can abuse and beat your wife 178 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:43.919 or your husband to a pulp, but you know you're not using a weapon 179 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:48.039 to do it. You're only using a frying pan. And therefore, what 180 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.440 do they have to do with your right to bear arms? What does they 181 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:54.799 have to do with your right to have a weapon. The two are not 182 00:15:54.879 --> 00:16:02.320 connected at all. And the issue is the argument that I find astounding. 183 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:07.080 Now I am biased, you know, I believe in gun control, although 184 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.399 I suggest to gun control people just give it up because it'll never happen. 185 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:18.440 And that is that the premise that the Second Amendment should be universal, allowing 186 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:26.600 anybody, virtually everybody from having a gun or any ban should be unconstitutional. 187 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:33.279 The argument is, the only people that shoot up shopping centers, schools, 188 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:38.279 any place where, bars, they're all mentally ill. And that is the 189 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:41.320 problem. We have to deal with the mentally ill, because if we deal 190 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:45.600 with all mentally ill people who could get a weapon, we wouldn't have this 191 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:52.279 problem, not at all. So to the US government and to the state 192 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:56.519 government, and to the county government, stop with the weapons, go to 193 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:00.639 the mentally ill, deal with all the mentally ill people in this country, 194 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:07.039 and that will stop the problem. Then we will not have shootings. Then 195 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:14.279 we will not have people shooting up schools. It simply wouldn't happen. And 196 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:18.359 you go, wow, how many mentally ill people are there in this country 197 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.200 that have mental ill issues? How many people have mental ill issues that we 198 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:29.160 mental ill issues, that mental illness that we don't even know they're out there 199 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:34.920 with mental illness, and we discover after the fact, we discover they're squarely 200 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:41.640 and crazy because they post the shooting either live on YouTube or you see these 201 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:48.400 crazy posts after the fact. So what we should do is, well, 202 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:55.960 let's make sure that we have everybody's posts and we have some kind of an 203 00:17:56.000 --> 00:18:00.680 algorithm or AI that then determines what mental illness is. A wait, a 204 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:07.759 sec mental illness is a legal proposition. In order to stop mentally ill people 205 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:10.480 from having a weapon, It's going to take a judge, it's going to 206 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:14.279 take a legal process. Someone has to decide how far mentally ill is what 207 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:19.559 if you are all you're doing is you're hurting yourself, right, What if 208 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:23.759 you're cutting yourself up with a knife? Is that enough? Well you have 209 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:29.640 to figure this out, because that's going to take it. That's going that's 210 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:33.319 what's going to stop people from shooting it up. That's how crazy that argument 211 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:37.480 is. So the Supreme Court just said no to the Second Amendment folks on 212 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:45.119 this one. That law that barred domestic abusers from owning guns is legitimate. 213 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:51.839 It is not a violation of Second Amendment rights. It's a fairly big win 214 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:56.160 for the gun control people. Okay, I didn't think court was going to 215 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:56.920 go that way. And by the way, it was an eight to one 216 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:02.839 decision. I thought Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito would go by way of the 217 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:08.559 gun folks only Clarence Thomas. Did you know, there's a problem when a 218 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:15.839 Supreme Court justice walks in on the Supreme Court wearing a bandolier that has ammunition 219 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:21.279 and carrying a few weapons on him, that becomes problematic. You sort of 220 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:25.359 know which way it's going to go, don't you. Dress codes. I'm 221 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:30.960 bringing Neil in here because dress codes. It is being argued in and of 222 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:37.279 themselves are discriminatory. First of all, of course they're discriminatory. You don't 223 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:42.880 if you wear shorts, you're not coming into our restaurant. Certainly, that's 224 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:48.960 the discriminatory against people that want to be casually dressed, and both goes both 225 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:55.279 ways. Interesting book. A guy with the named Richard Ford wrote Stanford Law 226 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:59.680 School professor, and he wrote the book dress Codes, How the Laws of 227 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:03.079 fat and made History. And he says, you can look at it two 228 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:10.079 ways. Number one, perfectly reasonable for people for restauranteurs to have dress codes, 229 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:14.039 or restauranteurs agree to that, or many of them do upscale saying, 230 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:17.680 hey, this is an upscale restaurant. We don't want people look like slobs. 231 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.599 We want people to enjoy our restaurant. And it's not only the quality 232 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:26.319 and the price of the food, but it's also the ambience. And if 233 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:32.200 you're wearing shorts and flip flop, there goes the ambience now. And by 234 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:34.960 the way, things like baggy pants so you look like a gang banger, 235 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:38.759 or grills on your teeth so you smile, and all of a sudden you 236 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:42.079 have diamonds and all that stuff, and their restaurants say no, thank you, 237 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:47.119 and their restaurants to say coat and tie. And I have gone to 238 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:52.400 restaurants where I didn't take them very seriously because most restaurants will let you in 239 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:56.400 anyway, because you know, the enforcement is ridiculously low. Where I was 240 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:03.319 given a coat and a tie, they said here and they offered that. 241 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.960 Neil, let's talk about that. Legitimate makes sense. Is it discriminatory? 242 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:15.559 Yes, and yes it is legitimate when used legitimately, but it can be 243 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:21.119 abused. So I believe that if you are creating a vibe an atmosphere there's 244 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:25.920 white cloth and fresh flowers on the table, then yeah, you have to 245 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:29.839 control it. If you are at a clubhouse where people are going to be 246 00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:36.480 coming off of the tennis courts or the golf course or something, then it's 247 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:41.799 going to accommodate that particular crowd. Yeah, there's no dress code there. 248 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:45.000 They accommodate. But the minute you start and I think, you know, 249 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:49.480 baseball caps and certain baggy clothing and bandanas and like, I get that they 250 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:55.519 don't want anything representing a gang lifestyle there. But when you get into like 251 00:21:55.680 --> 00:22:00.559 large gold chains or even the grills, then you start getting into something that 252 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:07.279 is I think specifically targeting a group, and that would be problematic. But 253 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:12.200 there are certain places. For instance, I was a member of the Magic 254 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:15.720 Castle for many, many, many years, and they have a dress code. 255 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:19.200 They relaxed it for a while and then they brought it back because it 256 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:25.079 didn't feel right in the context of the club. Do I love throwing on 257 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:30.480 a tie in a suit, not in particularly, but it was important to 258 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:36.880 that atmosphere to have that. Now there's some I read some there's a dress 259 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:41.359 code at a place that says you can't have an undershirt. A sleeveless undershirt 260 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:45.680 I don't wear. For the most part, I don't wear T shirt undershirts. 261 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:52.319 I wear a cuts a cut undershirts, and that wouldn't be allowed in 262 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:56.319 certain places. I don't find that discriminatory. Toy all right, let me 263 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.759 make a point of discrimination. When you're talking about baggy clothes, you're talking 264 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:07.039 about twelve pounds of gold hanging off your neck grills, for example, on 265 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:11.960 your teeth. You think a restaurant tour would want those people because they're the 266 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:17.119 ones that have a pile of money. If you've got twelve pounds of gold, 267 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:19.079 let me tell you you bought it unless you stole it. You've got 268 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:22.640 a ton of money, and you would want those people in because they're going 269 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:27.640 to spend money and lots of it. Yeah, and trends change and style 270 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:32.880 changes, and I understand that, but creating a vibe. They don't want 271 00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:37.000 people in T shirt and jeans in a place that it that they want, 272 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:40.200 you know, sexy people. No, right, but it's life. Yeah, 273 00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:44.000 I get that, but it's more sort of coat and tie and relaxing 274 00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:47.319 that and to a place. And I think I mentioned this on the Era 275 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:48.640 a couple weeks ago. I went to a place in New York to a 276 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:55.599 speak easy and you needed to be wearing leather shoes, and a guy behind 277 00:23:55.720 --> 00:24:00.480 me was wearing Prada tennis shoes and they wouldn't let him in. I could 278 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.680 see that it didn't matter that they were proud of or it's right. It 279 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:07.720 is a dress code. It's that simple. Now, I don't know how 280 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.519 many people actually go on the website or call and say, is there a 281 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:15.880 dress code? You know, I've been on cruises before and they say, 282 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:22.319 it's real simple. Dining room certain times, certain places you have to wear 283 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:26.359 a coat and tie, you have to people show up in shorts and they're 284 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.519 allowed in and it's just a question of enforcement. And that's the other thing. 285 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:34.279 The enforcement of dress codes. Has that fallen apart over the last few 286 00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:37.680 years, you know, it's become a problem. When I was in management 287 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:41.880 at the station, there were times we had to enforce certain dress codes. 288 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:48.279 Is that I don't discriminatory? Yeah? Yes, So I remember how pissed 289 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:52.880 off I was when you told me I had to wear pants. It was 290 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:59.359 the people were squinting a lot and bumping into walls. So let's okay, 291 00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:02.279 we had to end that. Of course, we have to end with stupidity 292 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:04.240 of every segment, even if it's a serious segment. Okay, and we 293 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.880 start with it too, And that's correct the middle. So that's absolutely correct. 294 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:14.039 Fair enough. KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 295 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:18.039 You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show. 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