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You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio
Network, the best in paranormal talk radio

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in the UK and around the world. Hello world, You're listening to Eleanor

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Wagner's Strange and Scary world here on
the Paranormal UK Radio Network, where we're

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always creeping it real. I'm your
host, Eleanor Wagner. Welcome all to

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my paranorma closet where the stories in
magic take place. Georgia Damski was a

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Polish American author who became widely non
in u apology circles after he displayed numerous

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photographs what Is in fifties that he
said were of alien spacecraft. He claimed

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to have met with friendly Nordic alien
space brothers and claimed Jeff take in flights

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with them to the Moon and other
planets. Today's guest is here to discuss

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Georgia Damski and how the man was
essentially systematically robbed of his credibility. He

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wrote a book on the subject.
Or please join me in welcoming Gibard Arts

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in to today's show. Welcome to
Gerard. Thank you, Eleanor. It's

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a pleasure to be here. I
interview a lot of people and have come

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across this many times before, or
it seems to be something that happened quite

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often where people are discredited, vilified, or called conspiracy theorists and such.

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But over time, when the truth
finally does come out, they're redeemed.

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But often it's long after their dead
and buried and can't appreciate the deserved recognition.

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What prompted you to write a book
about this? It was actually in

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twenty two thousand and nine that I
started writing articles by Georgia DMC because I

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found information that obviously was available somewhere
but disconnected. They were this was they

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were. These were pieces of information
in isolated places, and when I started

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to connect them, a very interesting
picture emerged of this unique actor and the

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first American contactee to step forward with
his accounts of meeting people from space.

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That led to me writing my first
book in twenty ten, also about Georgia

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Damski, a Herald for the Space
Brothers. I'm currently preparing a new edition,

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revised and enlarged. But the book
that we're here to discuss today,

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the Adamsky Book of UFO uIP Disclosure, was written to present information that shows

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that he was correct all along,
or at least that he was correct about

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some of the most fundamental aspects of
the uth of phenomenon and the extraterrestrial the

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reality of the extraterrestrial presence on Earth. And you know, because over the

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course of well say, the last
twelve years, several facts have been confirmed

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by military by science. People were
remember how the Pentagon finally had to admit

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in twenty twenty, only three years
ago, that recordings video recordings of what

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they call an identified areal phenomena were
indeed authentic and unexplained and were capable of

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incredible maneuvers that none of the known
terrestrial craft are capable of. So I

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decided that it was time to correlate
these confirmations with statements that George Adamski and

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photographs that George Adamski had made since
the nineteen fifties. And for me,

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it's a very it amounts to a
very powerful rehabilitation of this man's reputation.

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You were right in saying that many
times people have been discredited, but what

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happened to George Adamski is almost is
probably unique in this says that he was

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derided, he was unvilified in so
many ways. It's fair to speak of

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character assassination in his case, and
it's it's indeed not the first time,

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you know, anyone who comes forward
with revolutionary insights or ideas is you know,

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subjected to that kind of ridicule and
derision. A very very well known

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example, for instance, that listeners
may be familiar with is Helena Blavatsky,

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who founded the Theosophical Society in the
late nineteenth century and who was investigated in

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her time, and a report was
published in eighteen eighty five condemning her as

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a fraud. None less than a
century later, the same report was retracted,

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fully retracted by the organization that had
commissioned it century earlier. So,

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you know, whenever revolutionary ideas or
insights or experiences are presented to the public,

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it takes time for the public to
you know, to get our heads

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or not to wrap our heads around. It doesn't necessarily always fit the agenda

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either. If it doesn't fit the
agenda, they don't want to think outside

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the box. Well, especially yeah, yeah, especially in the case of

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extraterrestial visitors. Absolutely well, I
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aliens. It could be earth links
from the future. I've heard that discussion

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come up, and then I've I've
also heard that they don't want to release

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too much information. Though the government
knows much of it is real, they

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don't want to release it because they're
afraid that there might be a creation of

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the debacle with orson Welles and our
war of the World's rag. Yes,

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yes, that's there's been a concern, I suppose, and that's been a

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rationale that's been given. If if
that is a real concern, then you

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know, the government or the military
has themselves to blame for something like that

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happening, because they were the ones
who created the confusion and the and the

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and the fear among the public in
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first of all, the space visitors
introducing themselves through being cited, to allowing

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their craft being cited on, you
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in response to visitors contacting individuals around
the globe, not just in California,

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not just in the United States,
but around the globe, and people coming

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forward, like Georgia Demsky to relate
their experiences and share the message they were

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given by these extraterrestal visitors. This
was in the in the nineteen fifties,

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mind you, at the height of
the Cold War, with the United States

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and the Soviet Union at loggerheads,
with the palpable threat of nuclear annihilation hanging

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over the whole world, and these
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but also Buck Nelson and Truman beast
Room, Howard Manager and Daniel Fry

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and many others, they exhorted us. They pleaded with us to give up

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our tendency to settle our conflicts through
through war and rather seek international corporation to

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prevent nuclear destruction. And of course, when a government, and it's not

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just the United States government, but
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in the British government and the French
government, where they rely on the public's

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support for the massive investments in the
development of nuclear weapons, this message was

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and it was it was gaining popularity, you know, there was there was

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a growing interest in this message that
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a major course for major concern among
the authorities. So that's when the actual

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disneinformation campaign was set into motion to
scare and and confuse the public. That's

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really on the authorities if they were
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not sharing what they know. I
think they haven't been sharing what they know

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because they don't want to give up
what they see and sense as their their

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duty to defend national borders. Whereas
the space visitors are telling us, well,

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yes, you have your own national
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there's no reason to compete each other, into compete with the show, to

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get into oblivion, to destroy yourselves. Find ways to cooperate. But that

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power aspect has a lot to do
with it too. They like that power

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absolutely. And nowadays it's not just
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in nineteen sixty one, it was
Dwight Eisenhower, President Eisenhower who warned against

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the establishment of a military industrial complex, the defense industry basically dictating government policy

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not just in the states in the
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around the world in order to keep
wars going on so that they could continue

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to make profits on people killing each
other. And unfortunately, that's the sad

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truth today that you know, they
are keeping the lead on what everything that

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has has been found out that is
known, you know, controlling the public

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perception basically of the ufol phenomenon.
It's it's sad, it's a sad state

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of affairs. But fortunately morsels of
facts and confirmations have come out over the

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years, and when you piece these
together, the interesting factor emerges that George

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Adamsky was correct on several fundamental levels
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exeter tristal presence. M h.
It's just incredible. It's very very essent

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today that it's something that doesn't have
to hang that way and there's nothing had

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it. Well, yes, we
feel powerless and inadequate to act against you

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know, these vested interests that have
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But you know, we shouldn't forget
that we have help. And first of

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all, you know, we have
our own responsibility. Either we go along

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with the government narrative of you know, waiving flags, shouting the word freedom

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at every occasion as if other people
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seeking common ground, many governments in
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seeking conflict and we see the same
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But what we shouldn't forget that,
you know, the visitors are here

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and they've they've always been here.
You know. We see the old accounts

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in the Old Testament, several of
which many of which perhaps could be related

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to extraterrestrial visitors. The same for
many other scriptures, the Hindu scriptures and

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indigenous traditions. So they've always been
here, but especially as since the Second

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World War and the invention of the
atomic bone nuclear fission technology, the visitors

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have been here in greater number than
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dangers and also to inspire us,
to help us expand our understanding of life

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and our place in the in the
on this planet and in the universe,

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to help us expand our understanding of
how you know, we are not separate

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individuals, powerless in the face of
some you know, some some anonymous authority

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or government or government behind the scenes. But we are in to connect it

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at the very fundamental level. And
science, And that's one of the chapters

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in my book in which I show
that science nowadays has come to the same

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conclusion it was postulated in the theosophical
writings of Helena Blavati. That's one of

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the reasons why I mentioned her earlier
that life is interconnected. The human race

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is an integra part of the planet, and we cannot with impunity exploit and

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pollute and exhaust the resources of our
home planets, the which which provides our

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habitats that we depend on for our
livelihoods and for our life, for our

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breath. And nowadays the Exeter visitors
told us the same things through the contact

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is, especially Georgia down Skeep and
nowadays systems science through quantum research and findings

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in many other scientific disciplines show us
exactly the same fact. Life is interconnected,

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it is unbroken, it is universal. It's mainstream sized. Traditional science

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doesn't yet say it in so many
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findings from different disciplines, the conclusion
is, according to some very you know,

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advanced thinkers, that life is universal, is at the basis of the

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universe in which we live. It's
fundamental. It's it's not a chemical accident

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in the backwaters of the Milky Way. Now we see life. We've been

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taught to see life as something that
is carbon based, and you know,

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it's green when it's in the vegetable
kingdom, so to speak, the grass

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and the trees and everything, and
it moves in the animal kingdom, and

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it thinks in a human kingdom,
but it's all interconnected. It's to do

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with the evolution of consciousness. Life
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and that is the basic notion that
we need to learn in this crucial

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time in our evolution. And when
we realize that, we begin we begin

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to see that we are powerful in
the sense that we can direct our own

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future. We can make. It
is our decision which way the human race

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will go. Will we continue on
the old way, in the old way

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of competition, continued conflict, increased
chaos, and eventual destruction, or will

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we seek cooperation and respect people with
different viewpoints and come together to work for

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the greater good of a habitable planets
and restoring the planet to health so that

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we and our children and future generations
will still have a planet to live on,

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and we will have the opportunity,
as as a planetary race, to

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join our brothers and sisters in space
on our cosmic journey. You know,

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we will leave behind this prison.
There's a material prison of being, you

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know, confined to this planet as
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that's the expansion of consciousness at this
time that we are receiving help for from

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the brothers and sisters from space,
the space brothers in a word, but

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also from our elder brothers, the
people here on Earth who have who form

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the fifth kingdom in nature. You
know, the evolution of consciousness doesn't stop

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with the human kingdom. It's a
continuous process. It doesn't stop it.

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That's why many the contacts, the
authentic contacts, all know and have heard

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and have shared a message that their
contacts are much wiser and much more advanced

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in perception than the average human being
on Earth. And on Earth also there

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is a group of people who have
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And it's from this group known as
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Kingdom of Souls, in more esoteric
terms as the Masters of Wisdom. These

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masters of wisdom are so you know
they are. They have transcended the human

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the human state of consciousness, and
they are a natural outcome of the evolution

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of consciousness on this planet and on
every other planet. Adamski speaks of masters

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from Venus and Saturn that he met
Madame Lavatsky in her work into reduced the

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idea of the Masters of wisdom on
our planets in our work in the late

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nineteenth century. You know, it's
a natural It follows naturally from the course

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of evolution. And these masters of
wisdom, who have they've never been They've

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always been here, except they have
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speak, since the destruction of the
continent of Atlantis, and at this time

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they are coming. They are in
the process of returning to full view,

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so that we average humanity will be
aware of our of what is ahead of

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us and what lies in front of
us if we make the right choice.

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So we are not without help,
even though we may feel powerless at the

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moment, especially with the violence and
the conflicts going on at this time.

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But it is part. It is
part of this very difficult time for humanity

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where we have to make a crucial
choice. You know, you could also

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see it in terms of spiritual versus
material. We need to learn that we

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are not just the material aspect of
who we are and how we live,

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you know, the thing that we
see in the mirror. We have a

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spiritual aspect that informs our being and
that evolves over the course of many incarnations.

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We do not get just one life
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have to reach enlightenment, for instance, or to manifest christ consciousness. That's

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impossible. Did they ever say what
happened to Atlantis but then mentioned they referred

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to it. But Atlantis, according
to the Age of Wisdom teachings, which

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was first reintroduced to the world through
Madame Lavatsky and later elaborated on by other

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people such as Alis and Bailey and
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was the preceding cycle in human history, and it was destroyed in several phases

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through great floods, and we see
accounts of the Great Flood in all the

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all the traditions, you know,
mythologies around the world. They reached a

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very high point of scientific and technological
achievement and civilization, but it came to

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be misused and the technology that they
developed was not developed by you know,

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in our current world, it's already
kind of a united effort of scientists and

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people with the ability to put a
scientific understandings and insights into things that we

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can use and make our lives easier
with than logical and know how, etc.

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And make products out of that.
The technology in Atlantis was as it's

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called a gift from the gods,
and the gods in this case were the

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philosopher kings of the time. They
were the masters of wisdom who ruled the

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masses. It was a society of
civilization that where magic was very common.

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And magic is not something paranormal,
but magic is really a greater understanding of

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life and the laws of nature and
the laws of life. So true magician

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is able to manipulate the energies underlying
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So when magician could make objects appear, for instance, or disappear,

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just to give a simple example.
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the philosopher kings that ruled Atlantis,
they withdrew when the masses gradually began

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to or some some factions began to
misuse the magical powers, and you know,

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it became too dangerous to let that
continue. Apparently, so the populations

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at large and the civilization, i
should say, was destroyed through these great

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floods. But new colonies have been
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that where new continents were being formed. Interesting, so you know that's where

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that's how we see the occurrence of
pyramids all over the globe. Those were

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created by the in the colonies that
were set up by the Atlanteans. Ah,

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I always wondered about that. Now, how did Georgia Dambsky come to

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meet the visitors? Well, it's
interesting because people people accuse him of getting

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on the or the Flying Sorcerer as
it was called at the time, bandwagon,

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because that's where the money was to
be made. Well, he never

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made any money of his on his
efforts, even in nineteen thirty. In

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the nineteen thirties, he worked as
a metaphysics teacher. He was active as

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a metaphysics teacher in Laguna Beach,
California, and he had a property there

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that was bought by one of his
benefactors, rather big property, and they

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were set up as a temple where
students could gather, that they could even

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you know that there were rooms and
there was a lecture hall, and they

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were meetings several times a week,
and he taught there and he started this

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teaching in the nineteen twenty second half
of the nineteen twenties, established his community

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in Laguna Beach in nineteen thirty four
and continued there until nineteen forty. But

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already in nineteen thirty eight, he
was gifted a telescope, the same telescope

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that is very well known in photographs
of Adamski with his six inch telescope.

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That telescope was gifted to him in
nineteen thirty eight, and a report in

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the Los Angeles Times said that it
was installed to increase the public's interest in

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astronomy and space. About eight years
later, he wrote a pamphlet, The

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Possibility of Life on Other Planets.
This was ninety six. My personal suspicion

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is that he was aware of and
perhaps had even conscious contacts with visitors on

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space about which he wasn't supposed to
talk. But his official first contact happened

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in November nineteen fifty two. In
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he had already taken several photographs of
spacecraft in the nineteen forties, in the

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early years in the nineteen fifties fifty
nine fifty one through his telescope, and

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in nineteen November twenty four, ninety
fifty two, on a hunch, he

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and six of his co workers and
students in two cars set out into the

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California desert towards the Costco Mountains,
and at one point, they parked the

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cars by the side of the road
for a picnic, and around noon they

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spotted a cigar shaped craft, several
of which had been reported before, and

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this one was also seen by the
military, and it was entered as a

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special report number fourteen in the Project
Blue Book, which was collecting all kinds

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of sightings only half of the government
of the military in order to explain them

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away. So it was seen.
Damski and his group saw this what he

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calls the mother ship, and they
saw smaller scout craft coming at the flying

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saucers coming out of the mothercraft,
and apparently one of these crafts landed in

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in the nearby foothills, and Adamski
went over to inspect, to explore,

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and he was in awe when he
saw the you know, the sorcer hovering

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over the service of the of the
Earth nearby. As he approached and as

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he was, you know, in
wonderment about seeing this space, this craft

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from outer space up close, he
suddenly realized he was in the presence of

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a man standing a bit further away, and he began to engage with this

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man first through gestures and telepathic exchange, and understood that this was a visitor

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from Venus. Where were the others
at the time, because you said they

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all went together in two cars.
They stayed by the cars at the side

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of the road. He was clearly
the person who who was meant to be

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contacted. Yes, and they stayed
by the side of the road by the

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cars. But they, you know, they were able to see from a

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distance what was going on. They
saw him speak to this man. Yes,

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yeah, okay, yes, okay. So they saw him speaking to

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the man. And you say that
the gentleman said that he was from Venus.

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Adamski was told understood from their xjms
that he's from Venus. He was

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from Venis. Yes, on that
occasion, he saw only one person and

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I think he saw someone move around
the flying sorcer. And it was a

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couple of months later, from February
nineteen fifty three that that's when his second

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contact happened. He was asked to
join them and he got into a car

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with some of the visitors who looked
very much enticle to earthly human beings,

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and they drove into the desert and
where he was invited on board a flying

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saucer. And that was his first
Yeah, the first trip into and on

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a flying saucer into into space.
It appears as though he was a selected

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person that they wanted to make contact
with. Yes, yes, yes,

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they select the people that they know
will be open to the experience and perhaps

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willing to share their experience because they're
also aware that, you know, when

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you start talking about these things,
people will will ridicule you, and if

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not worse. And on that occasion
and the later occasions, he met people

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from not only from Venus, but
also from Mars and Saturn, Jupiter and

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other planets. So yes, did
he describe what they looked like? Oh

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yes, he gave very specific descriptions. He describes the visitors, the human

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beings from other planets, as very
much like human beings. He never used

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them. He never used the term
Nordic. You know, that's something that

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was used later by by later writers, not contact ease necessarily, and he,

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according to his description, they looked
like human beings, but much more

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refined and perfected in terms of physical
appearance the youth fall. But they all

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had their own characteristics that didn't look
all uniform or anything. He saw people,

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you know, of different skin colors, short and tall, the same

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kinds of differences that we find on
our planets, but always more refined.

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Yeah, greater advancement in terms of
physical appearance. He mentioned that anomalous materials

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came from the UFOs. What do
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was on his when he was first
invited to join them on a flying saucer.

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Well, as he was walking up
to the saucer, the person that

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he gave his contacts his regular contact
names. They don't use names the way

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we do, but he gave them
names in order to be able to write

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about them in his books. And
the person that he called Orthorm was just

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coming out of the saucerer to empty
a crucible into the desert sand, saying

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that he just fixed a part of
a small part of the ship that had

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broken down and emptying the crucible of
the you know, excess excess material metal.

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Adamski curious as he as he was
picked it up it was not too

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hot to handle, and kept them
these pieces of adult had them analyzed also.

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I was going to ask you that
he had them analyzed. He gave

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a piece to Desmond Leslie, who
was the co author of Flying Sources have

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Landed and Leslie and Anglo Irishman novelists
and aristocrat. Very very interesting and funny

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character, but also very serious because
he was the first to write a historical

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overview of extraterrestial visit visitations and UFO
stings. And that was the first part

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of the book, Fly Sources Have
Landed and Adamski's experience was appended to it.

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And that book came out in nineteen
fifty three, and that made Adamski's

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name worldwide. It was translated in
no less than ten languages within the first

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four years of it of its appearance, and reprinted in the United States no

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less than twelve times in the first
three years. So there was Flying Sources

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of landon. How did I get
to mention that we were talking about the

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medals that he handled, and I
was going to ask you whatever happened to

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them? Yes? Now, yeah, Desmond Leslie had these had was given

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one of these pieces by Adamski and
had analyzed in the UK. And Adamski

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later he received the results, but
he was not allowed to publish them.

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He was not allowed to publish them
in his next book, Inside the Spaceships

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and yes, and he said,
what UK government restricts, the US government

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restricts. You know, it's part
of the goverup, of course. And

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now the interesting thing is that after
the Pentagon's admission that the infrared captures of

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UA piece as they called them,
that were first leaked through the New York

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Times, when these were confirmed by
Pentagon in twenty twenty, not long afterwards,

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the Stanford professor Gary Nolan came out
saying that he was analyzing anomalous materials

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and some of these were shown in
the in the program that he was interviewed

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on and they look very similar to
the pieces that Adamski was showing in a

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photograph in nineteen fifty four. And
of course, profession Nolan is not allowed

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to share all of his fine He
also he also said that he had much

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bigger pieces that he was asked to
analyze and research, except he conso those

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due to national security sensitivities. So
you know, there's another instance where Adamsky's

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information is now being confirmed through more
official channels. Nobody is saying adapts.

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He was right. You know,
it's me putting these these pieces of information.

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Together. Sure that makes yes?
And what is meant by new paradigm

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paradigm new paradigm? Yes, I
actually touched a bit on that earlier on

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see our current paradigm paradigm the old
original Old Greek. In original Old Greek,

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paradigm means pattern. It's the way
you look at life, where you

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look at the world. So you
know, and we do that in a

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certain pattern in which we've been raised
and in which we've grown up, in

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our in our civilization, in our
world, and our current paradigm, as

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I've analyzed in one of my chapters, one of the chapters in my book

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is based on the sense of separation, is based on the sense of individualism,

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which has become extreme. And as
an example, you know, I

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say, if we could step back
from the way we look at life,

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for instance, now, if we
could get on a space flight like edgar

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Mitchell who came back from his mission
to the Moon in when was it seventy

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one or seventy four, I don't
remember, and he saw from the cockpit

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of the Apollo craft returning from the
Moon back to Earth that he saw this

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panorama of the surface of the Moon
and the blue planet Earth and the sun

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somewhere. He saw that and he
had this epiphany of the oneness of creation

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and the wonders of life. Now, if we could step back for a

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minute and get on a space flight
to look at our evolution, our growth

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in the past two thousand years,
perhaps we would see that we have grown

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to a certain extent out of the
her mentality that you know, people two

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thousand years ago we're seeing through which
they were seeing the world at the time.

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You know, and if you look
at the stories in the New Testament

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where Jesus of Nazareth or is challenging
the authorities of his time, the religious

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authorities of his time, and basically
telling people, you need to think for

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yourselves. And you know, we
have our own responsibility and being, so

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you know, we have our individual
responsibility and we need to learn to think

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for ourselves. I think that's what
that those particular episodes in the New Testament

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tell us. And also his willingness
to die for this ideal and also the

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willingness of his disciples and many who
followed to die for their idea was the

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seed for the other characteristic that has
built the current paradigm. So in visuality

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on one hand and idealism on the
one end, and these, you know,

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every every cycle, every cosmic cycle, gifts these gifts new characteristics to

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humanity that we need in our evolution, that you know, that will bring

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us forward. But at the end
of every cycle, such characteristics tend to

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crystallize and they get into our in
our way. Now, if we look

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at these, these characteristics of individuality
and idealism, in let's say, the

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last fifty years, the characteristic of
idealism had its climax in defy the global

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fight between capitalism and communism, you
know, and the general perception is that

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communism lost and capitalism is one,
and that's the best system for this world.

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Except it isn't, because you know, millions of people are living in

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slavery due to capitalism, millions of
people are dying in conflicts due to capitalism.

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And that's because capitalism promised freedom,
communism promised justice. And of course

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neither of these work in isolation without
the other, you know, they only

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work in conjunction. So after the
fall of the communist system, individuality has

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become a kind of individualism, and
this has has turned into an excuse,

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it seems almost for people, so
that individual responsibility is now seen as justification

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to take for yourself, you know, as much as you can with no

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regard of other people's needs. So
here we have these crystallized characteristics that we

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have, that we have acquired in
the past two thousand years, and which

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we need to take forward. We
need to we need not get of individuality

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or idealism, but we have to
put them at you know, at the

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at the use for the to build
and contribute to the greater good. We

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now have to make that shift from
seeing ourselves as individuals as part of as

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individuals who are part of a greater
whole of a planetary race, and we

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are all responsible for contributing our individual
talents and our individual potential to build a

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better society, a better world,
a better civilization for everyone, not just

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for ourselves. And this is the
paradigm shift that I'm talking about. So

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the old paradigm is based on individuality
and idealism, and we are now living

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through the time where they have sort
of married and become obstacles in our in

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the way we look at life,
and it seems it's as if we cannot

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see beyond. But that's part of
this fascinating and very important time in history

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where we are forced our crystallized way
of looking at the world and at life

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is going to force us, is
forcing us at the moment to make that

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choice, that decision. Are we
going to continue on the old way or

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are we will we decide to move
forward in a different direction with the good

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of all in mind, and you
know, treating others the way we ourselves

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want to be treated, realizing that
we are part of planetary race of brothers

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and sisters. We are even part
of a cosmic race of brothers and sisters

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that we are most people aren't even
aware of. And that's the choice before

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us now, and that is going
to be decided based on whether or not

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we manage to make that paradigm shift, to change our paradigm the way we

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look at life, the way we
look at the world. And that is

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why it is so important to have
the help of these space brothers and our

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own elder brothers, the masters of
wisdom, to inspire us and to show

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us that there's more to life than
just the material things that we have to

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worry about. Now. Now,
there's millions of people who do not even

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have access to basic things like clean
water, and it's very easy to make

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sure that everyone would have access to
clean water and medication and education and shelter

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and enough food because the world is
plentiful, you know's there's an abundance of

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food and there's no shortage. If
there's a shortage, it's because it's being

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manipulated by economic powers. And we
have to see that we have a responsibility

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to put everything that we have,
that this world produces, that we produce

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with our intellect, and put that
at the at the use, make it

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available to use for all of humanity, every man, woman and child,

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all of our brothers and sisters and
our children. This has all been very

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enlightening. Thank you so much.
Can you please tell the listeners the name

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of your book and where they can
find it? Yes? Please, of

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course. My book is titled The
Adamsky Book of UFO UAP Disclosure. It's

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available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble
and many other online bookshops. Subtitle is

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Early Evidence and Answers Now Confirmed by
science, philosophers, activists and the military.

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Yeah, and it's available online if
you if you look up the Adamski

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Book of you up Disclosure, it
should pop up. And what are your

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plans ahead? Are you writing another
book? Yes, I don't have Well,

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as I mentioned, I'm I'm going
to work. I haven't started yet,

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but I'm going to work on a
revised and a large edition of my

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very first book, which will be
a I would say, the most comprehensive

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book about George Dampski's life and mission. The first edition is still available secondhand.

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People will I'm sure it can be
found secondhand, but it will be.

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There will be an enlarged and revised
edition. I can't tell you when

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it will be when it will be
published, because I have to start working

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on it. I've just finished this
one. Yeah, it's it's I find

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it. I find it stunning to
see the confirmations that I found of George

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Damski's information, and I see it
as a as a monument to his legacy.

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Good on my Yeah. And do
you have a website, Gibard that

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everyone can refer to? Yes?
Um, My website as as a writer

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is bg A Publications dot n L
and people can find information there about my

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previous books and interviews that are coming
up or that I've done, or talks

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that I would be giving. And
I also have a website about Georgia Damski,

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the Adamski Case with with hyphens the
hyphen Adamski hyphencase dot NL with interesting

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illustrated biographical timeline and comprehensive brief off
of views of his teachings and his mission

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and his the impact of his of
his work. Illustrations are a good thing.

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People love illustrations and photographs. So
Gerard, tell me what would you

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like to leave the listeners with today? There's every reason to be hopeful for

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the future. These wistess space are
not here to present us with some paranormal

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enigma to keep us wondering what's going
on. They are here with a very

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clear mission of helping us see life
in a broader perspective. And they are

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here in support of a momentous event
in the in the evolution of humanity,

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in the expansion of our consciousness,
where we will see and and act,

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you know, physically experience that there's
an an endless path of evolution lying ahead

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of us, and that will open
ahead of us if we make the right

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choice. And part of the Agent's
wisdom tradition is that every cycle is inaugurated

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by a new teacher, which historically
and in mythology we know like you know

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by names as Hermes and Hercules and
Buddha and Krishna and Christ. And this

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new cycle that is beginning now will
also be inaugurated by one of the Masters

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of Wisdom as the teacher for the
new age, the World Teacher. And

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you know, this teacher is not
going to save the world. It's it's

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our responsibility to clean up the mess
that we've made. But these teachers,

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the World Teacher, and the Masters
of Wisdom and the Space Brothers, with

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all their wisdom and advanced technology,
are here at our disposal to help us

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go forward on the path of return
to the source. Well, let's hope

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we get there. I'm sure we
will. Thank you so much to Rod

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for joining me today. I really
appreciate it. It was a pleasure.

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Thank you for having me. If
you like listening to this week's episode and

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you're into to all things paranormal,
check out my other show, Eleanor Wagner's

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Creeping It Real podcast out of the
Coast to Coast Entertainment Network, which is

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available wherever you get your podcasts.
And if any of you are interested in

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reading any of my books, you
can find the links to them on my

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website, author Eleanor Wagner dot com. I write about the history of the

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town and location, add the paranormal
story to the mix, and finish it

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all off with photos and evidence.
Everybody loves a good ghost story, but

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there's nothing better than a true ghost
story, so check it out at author

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Eleanor Wagner dot com Ghostly Listeners.
You can follow me on my website author

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Eleanor Wagner dot com, where there
are links to my books and video updates

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and photographs. Thank you, paranormal
enthusiasts for tuning in today. I hope

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you'll come back again. Remember to
tap into your own gifts. Everyone has

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them, and in the meantime,
make sure you're creeping it wheel. One

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thou begin, than they begin,
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