1 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:33,120 Tonight's guest is Gregory Keith Brooks. Keith, Welcome to the show. Thank 2 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,840 you, sir, well, thank you so much for your time. We 3 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,760 appreciate it. Oh, we appreciate you. Man. You don't know how 4 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,120 much we appreciate you. Well. Like I said, that goes two ways. 5 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,560 One wouldn't work without the other. Keith, please give us a brief 6 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:53,840 bio one yourself. Well, I don't know about if I can do that, 7 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,120 but I can try. Well, let's see, I'm a pie sees 8 00:01:57,159 --> 00:02:00,159 I'm good looking now, okay, all right, all right, so I 9 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:07,360 try to breach things with trying to be funny. Okay. So I am 10 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:15,639 a investigator, I am a detective. I'm a logical based human being. 11 00:02:17,159 --> 00:02:23,319 I spent ten years as a detective and culinary degree. I have a culinary 12 00:02:23,319 --> 00:02:30,360 degree. I cook good things, and I drove trucks for about twenty years. 13 00:02:30,719 --> 00:02:38,120 I'm fifty four years old and I've been in many different places. There's 14 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:43,479 not a place I haven't been in in the lower forty eight as far as 15 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,680 states. Well, you have been around then you had your encounter in nineteen 16 00:02:47,719 --> 00:02:51,879 eighty five or eighty six, Keith. When you're a kid, what can 17 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,840 you tell us about the area where you grew up. The area where I 18 00:02:54,919 --> 00:03:01,400 grew up was a place called non Kanna Creek. It's a creek in Shelby 19 00:03:01,439 --> 00:03:09,560 County, Tennessee, which is inside of the city of Memphis. And what 20 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:14,120 I can tell you about this place is it was a great place to grow 21 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:19,479 up. It was a wonderful place to grow up. We moved there in 22 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:28,319 nineteen eighty and growing up there was nothing but fishing on the creek and just 23 00:03:28,719 --> 00:03:38,560 finding rocks and living in the woods and being around nature. Which my whole 24 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:46,400 family was sharecroppers, So they came from a background of looking at this as 25 00:03:47,479 --> 00:03:53,599 this is what we want for our kid. So they were looking at it 26 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:59,680 like we're making better for our children. We're making better for our kids. 27 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:09,840 And we built a house on a little street called Rivercrest. Now Rivercrest was 28 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:18,439 a street that dead ended into a road that was called Lynnfield, and Rivercrest 29 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,199 is no longer there because of a highway that took the road and took our 30 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:31,000 house. So we grew up on a creek, and we grew up in 31 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:38,199 a very wooded area. You would not think it was a wooded area, 32 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:46,439 but it was so you had on either side of the creek bank, probably 33 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:53,439 about two hundred yards of woods when I was a kid growing up with woods 34 00:04:53,439 --> 00:04:56,560 around your home the way you did. Had you heard about dogman before we 35 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,079 had your encounter, No, sir, we never heard heard about dog bib. 36 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:04,759 We didn't even know what a dog man was. A scanning walker. 37 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:11,240 We never thought about that. Well, you didn't have any reason to unless 38 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,040 you had heard about them. Then that'd be the last thing you would think 39 00:05:14,079 --> 00:05:17,319 about or know about until you found out what it was that you encountered. 40 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:23,519 How convinced were you that it was actually a werewolf? I was zero convinced 41 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:29,839 it was a werewolf. Zero. I mean, this is probably like final 42 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:36,199 conclusion stuff, but I never thought this was some kind of shape shifter or 43 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:41,360 something like that. Oh good, I'm glad you didn't jump to that conclusion, 44 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,399 and that just would have made that much more difficult to deal with. 45 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,319 How long did it take you to find out what it really was that terrorized 46 00:05:47,399 --> 00:05:51,839 JU and your friends that night? Well, it wasn't just that night. 47 00:05:53,160 --> 00:06:00,439 I mean it was several nights. But that's a good question, a really 48 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,759 good question, And I'm not sure about the answer for that because it's always 49 00:06:04,759 --> 00:06:10,199 been in the back of my mind about what this is and what this was, 50 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:15,759 and what the nature of this thing is. Well, it doesn't matter 51 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,319 that you don't know exactly when you did realize or find out that it was 52 00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:21,439 actually a dogged me. And I'm just glad you eventually did find out. 53 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:26,560 That's all that matters. I didn't know this until you told me in our 54 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,079 first conversation. But Memphis as an extensive tunnel system under it, well more, 55 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,040 can you tell us about that? Well, I can tell you a 56 00:06:34,079 --> 00:06:40,120 lot about that. Actually, when we were kids, and even my father 57 00:06:40,879 --> 00:06:46,160 when he was still a lot, we would walk under these tunnel systems just 58 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:54,439 to get to different places, and it was extensive, not only the external 59 00:06:54,560 --> 00:07:01,279 drainage ditches on the outside of the city, but so the internal drainage ditches 60 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:08,720 on the inside of the city, because you could hit a tunnel and you 61 00:07:08,759 --> 00:07:13,360 could make a right and you could be in downtown Memphis in like ten minutes 62 00:07:15,399 --> 00:07:23,279 literally, because what you're talking about is there's no streets. It's as the 63 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,519 crow flies. You know, it's it's something to look at, you know, 64 00:07:27,519 --> 00:07:30,800 it's something to think about. But you know, when you're a kid 65 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:38,360 and you see a black hole. You walk into a place and it's got 66 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:46,720 crickets going on, and it's got branches overhanging the entrance, and you're like, 67 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:50,439 man, I'm in Machu Pichu. I'm about to explore some stuff. 68 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:58,920 And you light up a torch and you go in there, and you know 69 00:07:58,959 --> 00:08:03,839 it's an adventure. I mean, it's a true adventure because you don't know 70 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:09,879 what you're going to run into. And I swear to God, as funny 71 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:15,319 as it may sound, it's an amazing thing that we never got typhoid or 72 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:22,839 dysentrry or any kind of other thing from this water because it's nasty. It's 73 00:08:22,879 --> 00:08:28,079 a nasty place to be. But we were in there, and we walked 74 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:37,120 across the city under the city in tunnels, and I think that's what this 75 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,600 thing does. Oh, I'm sure you're riot. I'm sure they do use 76 00:08:39,639 --> 00:08:45,799 those tunnels all the time. Well, I mean it just makes sense. 77 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,000 Why wouldn't you. You don't want to be seen, you don't want to 78 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,080 be heard, and this thing wants to be heard when it wants to be 79 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:58,799 heard. And that's another thing I will get at. This thing causes fear, 80 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:05,279 So I don't think this is a normal cryptod. I don't think that 81 00:09:05,799 --> 00:09:13,960 this thing is a werewolf. I think this thing wants you to be afraid. 82 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,679 Is sure. Is a shame that they're so good at causing fear, 83 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,679 but that's how it is. If you've had a dog me an encounter would 84 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,519 like to speak with me about it, whether I'm private or on this show, 85 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,360 please go to dog Mean Encounters dot com and submit a report. If 86 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,960 you've had a bigfoot sighting and would like to be a guest on one of 87 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,879 my two bigfoot shows, please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let 88 00:09:37,919 --> 00:09:41,639 me know. All right, Keith, please tell us about your encounter. 89 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:46,720 Now, give us every last detail that comes to mind. Well, it's 90 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:54,600 funny because my friends are funny and we all come from different backgrounds. But 91 00:09:54,600 --> 00:10:00,639 anyway, we were kids and we were digging. This gave okay, And 92 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:07,720 we're digging into the side of a cliff. So think about that. We're 93 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:13,360 digging into the side of a cliff and we're going down as we're digging, 94 00:10:13,399 --> 00:10:18,759 we're going down. We're young kids, and this was real important to us. 95 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:22,879 I don't know why it was real important to us. Maybe it was 96 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,320 just the thing to do. I don't know, but you know, it 97 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:35,080 seemed like a really cool thing to do. And John we called him Zero 98 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:39,960 the hero. And we called in Zero the hero for one reason and one 99 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,879 reason only because he never had any guts. He was never going to be 100 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:50,200 the guy that was going to stand up and say, okay, I'm here 101 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:58,399 with you. I got your six. He was never that guy. And 102 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:03,000 there was a whole bunch of us us Stove all worked on that cave. 103 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:07,720 Bear worked on that cave. I mean a whole bunch of us worked on 104 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:13,720 that cave because we were kids and it was like an effort. And we 105 00:11:13,759 --> 00:11:18,320 would go down there like almost every night, if not every night, and 106 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:24,399 we would dig on that cave and we would dig into the ground and there'd 107 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,799 be like two or three of us that would be digging, and there'd be 108 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:31,120 two or three of us that would be putting the dirt in the bucket and 109 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:39,159 taking the bucket out of the hole and dumping it. So here we are 110 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:45,159 doing this, of course, we're kids. When we were making hot dogs 111 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,840 and cooking stuff out on a camp fire, thinking we were mountain men, 112 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:56,440 and you know, here we are city kids. We're just out there just 113 00:11:56,759 --> 00:12:03,480 digging this cave. So here's the crux of it all. Me and John, 114 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:13,200 we're sitting outside of that cave entrance by the fire, and I don't 115 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,639 remember what we were talking about. I don't even know if it matters anymore. 116 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:22,159 I mean, man, that was a long time ago. But we 117 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:28,600 were talking to each other, looking at each other, and here comes this 118 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:37,159 bowling sized boulder, literally a rock, and it hits the side of the 119 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:46,519 cliff and it falls down in front of the entrance of the cave, and 120 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:54,639 we both are looking at the boulder as it hits and then we both look 121 00:12:54,679 --> 00:13:00,759 at each other, and then we both look across the ditch and here's this 122 00:13:00,879 --> 00:13:07,759 thing. This thing was about seven and a half to eight feet tall, 123 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:24,399 and it had canine features. But beyond canine features, it had teeth. 124 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,720 Because really and truly, all I can tell you I can tell you a 125 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:35,320 little bit about its lower torso, but I can't quite tell you that I 126 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:41,279 can tell you about its face because the only light we had was a camp 127 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:48,080 fire. So this thing was in the camp firelight, and it was across 128 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:54,960 a ditch about ten feet away, literally ten feet away, and this thing 129 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:01,480 had the sharpest teeth I've ever seen seen on anything in my life, and 130 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:09,399 had an extended nose, and it had pointed ears. And I swear to 131 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:16,159 God VIC, I swear to God VIC the things smiled at me. The 132 00:14:16,159 --> 00:14:24,759 thing smiled at me. Its eyes were yellow or amber in color, and 133 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:33,320 it was blotchy. It had white and tan fur. It had tannish orange 134 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:43,279 white fur. And this thing had the most muscular upper chest. And this 135 00:14:43,399 --> 00:14:50,200 thing had long arms, longer than they should be. And this thing had 136 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:58,440 block nails that I swear to God the nails on this thing. Its arms 137 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:05,679 hung down below its knees, and this thing had three to four inch nails. 138 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:13,240 And it was just sitting there laughing at us. And we looked at 139 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,159 it. And as soon as we looked at it, as soon as we 140 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,600 acknowledged it was there, and it smiled, it ran up that hill so 141 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:30,879 quick. It ran up a straight almost straight, I would say about. 142 00:15:31,879 --> 00:15:39,279 I mean it literally floated up it. I mean not floated, but it 143 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:46,120 moved up it so quickly, and it was on. It was on. 144 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:52,799 So you're talking about a bunch of fourteen fifteen year olds, sixteen year olds 145 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:58,840 that are just out there trying to play some lead Zeppelin trying to cook some 146 00:15:58,879 --> 00:16:07,240 hot dogs dig a cave, and this thing is out there and it's hunting 147 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:15,519 you. And it moved so quick, so quick. I've never seen anything 148 00:16:15,679 --> 00:16:19,000 in my life moved that quick. And I've seen a lot of things, 149 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,159 I've never seen anything like that. And I'm gonna tell you straight up, 150 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,960 we jumped in that hole. Now, at this point, we had the 151 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:37,879 first room in the cave built, and we called that room Genesis, because 152 00:16:37,399 --> 00:16:44,559 Genesis the beginning, So it was the beginning, and there was nothing else 153 00:16:44,679 --> 00:16:52,720 left. And we had sharpshooters and we had shovels just kind of pointing out 154 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:59,120 of that hole the entrance into the side of that hill, with this thing 155 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:06,440 all night, walking around us all night, growling. It never howled, 156 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:15,680 but it growled, and it was menacing. It was the most menacing thing 157 00:17:15,799 --> 00:17:22,119 I've ever heard and ever dealt with in my life. And nobody was going 158 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,720 to come out of that hole. Nobody was going to come out of that 159 00:17:25,759 --> 00:17:30,079 hole. I saw a guy pee himself. You know, there's like three 160 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,440 or four of us. Bear was in there. I think he peed himself 161 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,880 literally, I mean it was like pe was hitting the mud. It's like, 162 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,079 well, that makes it easy for me to dig later. You know, 163 00:17:42,599 --> 00:17:47,319 not to be funny, but you know, to be funny. It 164 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:53,799 was. It was just intense. And this thing was upstairs, man, 165 00:17:53,839 --> 00:18:03,000 it was above us, it was beside us, on either side, and 166 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:08,319 it was taunting us. And you couldn't see it, but you could feel 167 00:18:08,319 --> 00:18:15,440 it. You could sure feel it. And this thing, you got this 168 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:22,079 feeling. Man, this thing was just here to scare the pea out of 169 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:29,240 you. Literally scared the pea out of you. And so here we are 170 00:18:29,279 --> 00:18:33,839 a bunch of kids. Well I say kids, we're young men, but 171 00:18:36,079 --> 00:18:40,400 you know, I mean, it gets to be about six thirty. This 172 00:18:40,599 --> 00:18:48,160 probably happened about ten thirty at night and eleven something like that. So you 173 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:56,799 got these kids sitting in a hole untill about six thirty seven o'clock in the 174 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:03,759 morning when the sun comes up and there's no more sounds. I mean, 175 00:19:03,799 --> 00:19:07,319 it's like it's like being in a war one or something, and it's like 176 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:15,880 coming out of the trench. And uh, we walked back to our house 177 00:19:17,559 --> 00:19:27,079 or my house, and we go in the garage and uh that's when the 178 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:33,720 s hits the fan. Man, because you're like, uh, what what 179 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:41,920 did we just see? What what? What did we just see? And 180 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,599 everybody's sitting around with like white faces and they're going, I don't, I 181 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,480 don't, I don't know what that was. I don't, I don't, 182 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:59,880 I don't know what. I don't know what that was. But the funny 183 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:08,920 thing is we didn't let this stop us because we invested so much time in 184 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:18,200 this cave and we dug it with our own hands, and I wasn't about 185 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:23,920 to let some thing like that just take away everything we did, you know, 186 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:34,240 even at that age. And the thing that's funny about it is we 187 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:42,599 went out there and we went down probably another twenty feet, and certainly it's 188 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:51,400 amazing that this cliff of dirt didn't fall on us and kill us, because 189 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,279 you know, I mean, we're not engineers or anything like that, but 190 00:20:56,599 --> 00:21:03,440 it happened. And I can guarantee you this. After that first experience, 191 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:10,599 we had like three or four campfires burning at night, and we always had 192 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:17,200 somebody up top that was just sitting around watching. And the funny thing I 193 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:22,000 can tell you about this thing. The funny thing I can tell you about 194 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:30,039 this thing is you always knew when it was coming, because you could feel 195 00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:41,920 it before you heard it so that's what freaks me out. That's really what 196 00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:48,680 keeps me up at night. That is the thing, because we were kids, 197 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:56,319 and I don't think something like this needs to torture children when they're out 198 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,799 there just trying to build a treehouse or dig a cave or do whatever they're 199 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:07,920 trying to do. I I think about it. I think about it a 200 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:18,799 lot. It's had a very big experience in my life. I don't completely 201 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:23,240 want to go into all of it, but yeah, yeah, it has. 202 00:22:23,599 --> 00:22:32,240 It has, and it's made me a better man. It's made me 203 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:48,759 more understanding of the possibility of things that can be. And it's also left 204 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:56,400 a lot of confusion in my brain, a lot of discourse, and a 205 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:03,559 lot of disheartened us because I don't know what we saw, and I can 206 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:07,640 give you other experiences. I mean, you know, there's been plenty of 207 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,480 experiences. When we were down there working on the cave and we had three 208 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:17,960 or four brasures of fires going on at one time, and a guy upstairs, 209 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:25,319 and we'd sit around and everything would be fine, crickets, frogs, 210 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:36,680 everything signed, and then everything would stop. Period. Every thing would stop. 211 00:23:38,079 --> 00:23:47,640 The whole woods would stop, no sound, and you'd automatically get that 212 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,960 fear, and that kind of fear. I was trying to explain to a 213 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:59,799 friend of mine that that kind of fear puts your heart in your throat where 214 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:06,200 you know what your heart tastes like. And we'd all be like, it's 215 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,759 coming, it's coming, And then down the hall we'd go, and sure 216 00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:21,400 enough it'd be up there, cracking limbs, intimidating people, trying its best 217 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:27,319 to scare the crap out of you. And then there was one time we 218 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:33,599 tried to make a break for it and we ran out of the and this 219 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:38,039 is not very far, man, this is like, jeez, maybe fifty 220 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:45,839 yards. We're running like wild indians down our path because we come in and 221 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,559 out this place so much, we leave a path. And this thing, 222 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:59,039 this thing is flanking us. This thing is flanking us. As soon as 223 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:02,480 we get to the woods, the edge of the woods, make that curve, 224 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:12,400 turn right, it's gone. And here's another thing that's really really messed 225 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:18,839 up about this thing every time, and you know, eventually this is going 226 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:26,599 to assault your manhood. Eventually, this is going to assault the nature of 227 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:34,599 who you are. And you go down there, you know, it's like 228 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:40,200 you sit back and you go, y, nobody gonna keep me from this 229 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,720 because you're a young man. You're young, and you're stupid, and you 230 00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:48,880 go, nothing's going to keep me from doing what I want to do. 231 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:55,319 And eventually that just gets under your skin. It gets under your skin, 232 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,880 it's like, and you go down there to fight it. And we had 233 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,480 spears and had knives, and we had we had used to have the spirit 234 00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:10,839 called rat spain because we killed rats with it in the sewer system. But 235 00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:19,240 anytime you went down there to fight it, it never showed up. I 236 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:30,759 mean, it never showed up. It never showed up. It was only 237 00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:38,759 when you didn't expect it. So I'm not sure what that's all about. 238 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:48,799 I would like to know what the nature of fear and this thing is, 239 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:57,480 because I think this thing lives on fear. I think it gets off on 240 00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:07,279 it, if that makes any sense. I mean, look, there were 241 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:15,680 times when I remember walking into the woods. I remember walking into the woods 242 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,759 and having John come running out and the only thing he said, he was 243 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,559 running as fast as he could. Man, he said, it's back. 244 00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:34,160 And I was like, Okay, we're not going in the woods. We're 245 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,200 not going in the woods. Okay, We're not We're not going to do 246 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:41,680 that. This is not a good thing. And I got back to the 247 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,000 house. I said, what are you talking about? Man, what are 248 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:52,119 you talking about? It's back? What? What? What? Because I 249 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,559 saw it, man, I saw it. It came up and he ate 250 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,319 the hot dog off the stick right in front of me, like three feet 251 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:06,440 in front of me. I was like, Oh my god, you gotta 252 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,559 be kidding me. Man, what are we gonna do about this? How 253 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:21,480 you are killing my cool? That sounds funny, but for a fifteen year 254 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,079 old or a sixteen year old, you gotta stop and think. Man, 255 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:33,440 that's this is like go to wartime. This is like I am ah. 256 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:42,079 So there were many times I would go out in those woods that I would 257 00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:48,440 go out there just to find it. I was completely unarmed. There is 258 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:56,160 absolutely no way, absolutely no way I could fight this thing, no way. 259 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:04,640 But it just pissed me off that much. And tomorrow night I'm probably 260 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:12,680 gonna go back out because I just want to see. I'm an old man 261 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:18,039 now, I'm fifty four years old. This happened in nineteen eighty five, 262 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:25,440 nineteen eighty six somewhere around there, and I just want to go back. 263 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,160 I want to I want to see. And I'm not so sure that I 264 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,920 want to see, but I want to see because it's not going to scare 265 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,960 me. Man, it's you don't own me. You don't own me, 266 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,960 and I gotta tell you, Vic, I love you very much. I 267 00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:51,480 think the world of you. Your seven words are awesome, and I think 268 00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:56,279 you're right. Man. I think this thing lives on fear. So if 269 00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,759 I can stand up and I can tell you I'm not afraid of you, 270 00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:10,920 you're not gonna bully me. Maybe maybe, I don't know, we'll see. 271 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:18,000 There's always been a bunch of strangeness that happened on that creek. We 272 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,799 would walk down the creek bed and all of a sudden it would be like 273 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:33,960 a thousand pound log come lofting off the cliff into the water, and you 274 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:37,160 look at it and you go, well, that's interesting. I wonder how 275 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:45,279 that happened. I don't think that was falling from the sky. I don't 276 00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:51,240 think that was a tree branch. So I mean, there's always been something 277 00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:56,200 weird going on down there, and it's just a strange place. And if 278 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,559 you want to know where it is, I will tell you where it is. 279 00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:10,440 If you look up a place called bal Moral Elementary Ridgeway Elementary. You 280 00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:15,039 will find it on a map, okay, and this is in the area 281 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:22,960 code of three eight nine. And if you go in between a road called 282 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:30,960 Lynfield and I can't remember the other name, but anyway on Lymfield to the 283 00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:38,680 east, bal Moral to the west, you'll find that drainage ditch. To 284 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:47,200 the north, you're going to find an entrance under the city of Memphis, 285 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,759 and that is a sewer drainage, and that sewer drainage will get you anywhere 286 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,000 in the world you want to go under the city. To the south, 287 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,200 you're going to run into the creek. To the west of that, you're 288 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,680 going to run into mccullar Lake, and that's going to be a tributary of 289 00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:12,920 the Mississippi River. To the east, you're going to run into Caryville, 290 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:20,799 and you're going to run into more pastoral Tennessee. You know, you're going 291 00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:29,680 to run into more country life. But this whole creek, I think is 292 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:37,680 an infrastructure for this thing. And I think either it lived under the city 293 00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:43,720 or it still lives under the city, and I think it lives under a 294 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:51,720 lot of other cities. I think that this thing uses tributaries, and it 295 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:58,160 I think it's transient, and I think it uses this to move its families 296 00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:04,880 and moves to hunting grounds because there's absolutely nothing to hunt around here. I 297 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:10,720 mean, we got raccoon, we got fox, we got squirrels. That's 298 00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:15,559 about the extent of it. You know, we don't have bears. We 299 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:22,240 certainly don't have anything that looks like that, seven and a half feet tall 300 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:28,079 with sharp teeth, drooling on itself. No no, no, no, 301 00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:35,799 no, no. Now. And one of the things about this was that 302 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:44,319 this was before we knew what a dog man was. This was before we 303 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,440 knew what a dog man was. So we're you know, you know, 304 00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:52,480 like racking your brains as a fifteen, sixteen year old kid. So what 305 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:59,960 in the world is that. You don't think cryptoide, you don't think big 306 00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:04,000 foot, you don't think dog man, you don't think anything like that. 307 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,679 You're thinking had a cousin who was a dear friend of mine, and he 308 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,400 was like my best friend in the whole world. His name was Jeffrey. 309 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:20,400 He's passed away now, and he was a good guy and one of the 310 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:28,639 smartest guys I've ever knew in my life. And he always said that you 311 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:34,920 guys disturbed some Indian burial ground and now you got the spirit of this thing. 312 00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:43,119 And that never set right with me. I just never It never worked 313 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:47,840 with me. I was like maybe, I mean maybe, because when you're 314 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,920 looking at something like that that is that big and can move like that, 315 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:05,559 anything's possible. But it's just that's not my go to thing. So I'm 316 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:12,400 thinking that this thing is using the tunnels under Memphis to get from one place 317 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:19,000 to another, and I'm thinking that it's a highway, and I'm thinking that 318 00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:25,199 it's using it to get to a hunting ground. So I don't think you 319 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,440 can hunt it. I don't think you can kill it. I don't know. 320 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:37,920 I just don't know. It leaves more questions than there are answers. 321 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:43,599 I don't know. I just don't know, man. I mean, I 322 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:50,920 used to have a nightmare, had reoccurring nightmare for about twenty years. And 323 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,480 maybe some of your audience will find this funny, because you know it is 324 00:35:54,559 --> 00:36:04,400 funny. But my nightmare was it happened almost every night with me for twenty 325 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,519 years where I would be because the side of our house was about fifty yards 326 00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:16,239 from those woods and they're not really woods. Man, it's like just maybe 327 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:23,599 an acre of woods the back of the cave. It was fifty yards to 328 00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:32,039 the houses on that drainage ditch. But anyway, I digress. My nightmare 329 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:38,039 was constantly that it was a bright sunny day, and I went to the 330 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:45,880 bathroom in that bathroom where that window faced the back of those woods, and 331 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:52,199 I was starting to urinate, and this thing slowly came out of the woods 332 00:36:53,320 --> 00:37:01,400 and it just kept coming and coming and coming really slowly, and I couldn't 333 00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:08,360 stop urinating. But thank God, it never made it to the window before 334 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:14,400 I woke up, because God only knows what it would have happened. I'm 335 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,239 trying to think if there's more things that I have to say about this. 336 00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:23,719 I don't think so. I think that's it. Let's a lock to wrap 337 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,400 your mind around. That's for sure. When that boulder hit the side of 338 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,920 the cave, it hadn't been thrown hard or fairly soft. I would say 339 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,360 fairly soft. Well, I didn't need to throw it all that hard to 340 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:43,920 get your attention. It was a bowling ball sized boulder. Mai, Yeah, 341 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:50,239 that's going to get matter what That's what's so funny is that I remember 342 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,760 that more than anything, is that the boulder hit the side of the cliff 343 00:37:54,079 --> 00:38:00,800 and it rolled down, and by that time we had that hole so deep 344 00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:07,960 that we had filled that ravine in front of us with dirt enough to form 345 00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:15,280 a platform. So it was really comical. I mean it was really it 346 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:22,639 was like something out of Looney Tunes or something, because we both looked at 347 00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:28,880 the boulder, we both looked at the cliff and it fell down, and 348 00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:32,079 we looked at each other, and then we looked across, I mean at 349 00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:37,480 the same time. It was like something out of the Blues Brothers or something. 350 00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:42,440 I mean, it was just what in the world is that. Well, 351 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,079 if you guys looked like the Three Stooges out there, no one could 352 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:49,639 fault you because, yeah, you're just trying to hold it together. Well, 353 00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:54,599 i mean we're kids. We're just kids. We're out trying to dig 354 00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:59,840 a hobbit hole, have fun, be in the woods, roast from we 355 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,800 knees. Like you said, you're just kids trying to have fun. It's 356 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,920 just a shame that he had to come along and ruin that. When you 357 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,000 first saw it standing on the other side of the ditch looking at you, 358 00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:15,239 was it standing still or was it moving without questioning, it was standing still. 359 00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:24,480 It had dog legs and at arms that were down in an abnormal way 360 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:34,000 below its hips with extremely long cause, and it had human hands. Do 361 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,599 you think you're looking at a lab experiment that had gone wrong or something else. 362 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:47,320 That's a good question. What I think we're looking at is this is 363 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:53,039 my personal opinion. I think this is a cryptoid and I think it is 364 00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:58,840 in the realm of Bigfoot. And I don't think anybody knows about it because 365 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:05,000 it doesn't want to be no and about Bigfoot. From my understanding, I 366 00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:10,599 mean, you're always going to have some violent interactions with that kind of thing, 367 00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:19,159 I think, But this thing wants you to know it's there. I 368 00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:25,519 think this thing lives on fear. I think this thing is dangerous. I 369 00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:31,719 think this thing should not be messed around with. It's really hard to say 370 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:38,920 to judge this. Is it a werewolf? I don't know. Is it? 371 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:44,840 Is it some kind of government experiment gone wrong? Is it something left 372 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:51,159 over from Chernobyl? I don't know. I don't know, but I know 373 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,599 it's there. I know it's there. I mean, I'm not making this 374 00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,440 up. So what is it? And what kind of thing has teeth like 375 00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:09,440 that. Every tooth in its head was sharp, and it smiled at us. 376 00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:17,639 Now here's the deal. It could have ripped us apart. This thing 377 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,000 could have ripped us apart. It could have grabbed those shovels out of our 378 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:29,320 hands, and it could come down that hole and it could have just buried 379 00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:36,840 us alive. But it didn't. So what's that about? What is that 380 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:45,360 about? And why is it living on fear? Why? I would love 381 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:52,519 to know that answer. I understand that if you're a hunter and you're in 382 00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:58,400 the woods and you're out there hunting and the whole woods go silent, and 383 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:04,079 Okay, there's an apex predator out here. Okay, we're gonna look at 384 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:08,679 this. But this thing is different. Man, This thing projects fear before 385 00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:15,079 it gets there. At least that was my experience, you know, And 386 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:22,599 I'm not going to take anything away from anybody's experience. And oh, that's 387 00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:27,199 another thing I wanted to tell you. I really appreciate you doing the job 388 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,920 you do. And I really appreciate all the former guests that came on the 389 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:37,440 show that talk about this kind of thing, because we got to figure this 390 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:42,639 out. We got to figure this out. I don't know what this is, 391 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:50,159 but it's out there. It's not imaginary, and I think it's flesh 392 00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:53,840 and blood. Well I wish they were imaginary, but as you saw, 393 00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:00,360 unfortunately, they're real and they're out there. Oh, they're definitely out there, 394 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,920 there's no question. Besides being ridiculously sharp, was there anything else about 395 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:15,280 its teeth that surprised you? The width of its mouth. That thing could 396 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:21,840 almost be a shark. The width of its mouth. It looked like it 397 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:34,519 could hang its jaw back and just take a leg off, literally, like 398 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:42,280 take up with one bite, just take a leg off. And this was 399 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,559 a dog. This was a dog type. This wasn't a Type three or 400 00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:51,840 any of that stuff. I've read your site and I think it's awesome. 401 00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:55,039 Like I said, I love the work you do. But no, this 402 00:43:55,159 --> 00:44:00,320 was a dog type. And this thing was aggressive. This thing was aggressive, 403 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:13,000 and the thing hunted us. That's what's so weird. Because Bigfoot doesn't 404 00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:19,679 hunt you, Cryptoids don't hunt you. This thing hunts you. This is 405 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:28,199 something like out of a nightmare. This is something out of a a movie. 406 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:37,559 This is like Predator. I only got the limited experience, and I'm 407 00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:40,800 not sure I want to be involved in any more of this. But at 408 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,840 the same time, you know, I'm probably going to go out there tomorrow 409 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:50,000 night just to go back to the cave and just to hang out there, 410 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:57,199 just to see you. Don't frighten easily. Why you know I've been through 411 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,519 my time? Yeah, I say you must have been. There are a 412 00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:05,480 lot of people out there who are convinced that dog men like that are just 413 00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:09,840 a type of evolved lemur, giant lemur. What would you say about that? 414 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:19,159 No? Absolutely, totally not no. And I'll tell you why. 415 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:28,159 Anything that can leap up a ten foot embankment without making a noise? Are 416 00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:36,000 you kidding me? Are you really kidding me? The only time you're going 417 00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:42,440 to see this thing is when it wants to see you. You don't hunt 418 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:51,320 it. It hunts you, and that's a fact. But the thing I 419 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:57,119 can say about that is we walked away from it. And I think most 420 00:45:57,159 --> 00:46:02,159 people involved in this kind of research, or if you want to call it 421 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:10,639 research, I call it nightmare, walk away from it. So I'm not 422 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:17,639 sure what this is. I'm not sure. That's why I think it lives 423 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:23,440 on fear. I think it wants to get a rise out of you. 424 00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:30,840 I think it wants to play with you. And it doesn't matter if you 425 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:37,239 have a forty cow or a I am sixty, It doesn't matter. It's 426 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:43,559 not gonna matter. This thing can out maneuver you. This thing can outthank 427 00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:49,360 you, this thing can out flank you, this thing can outdo you. 428 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:58,920 So what the nature of this is? I don't know. And that kind 429 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:04,440 of reminds me of something spiritual in a way. But I don't want to 430 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,400 go there. I just don't want to go there because I don't think that's 431 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:14,360 the nature of this. I just think this thing is like the best hunter 432 00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:20,639 that's ever lived. What are we going to do about it? You know? 433 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,239 I mean, what are we going to do about it? It lives 434 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:34,960 under our streets, It lives beside us. It only shows up when it 435 00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:40,519 wants you to be afraid. How do you deal with that? I mean, 436 00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:45,760 that's a really good question. How do you deal with that? There's 437 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:51,039 a whole bunch of guys out there that have been in combat, and I'm 438 00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:53,679 going to tell you straight up, man, they're not going to deal with 439 00:47:53,760 --> 00:48:01,320 this. Ain't nobody's gonna deal with this. This thing. It's quiet when 440 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:07,679 it wants to be, it's loud when it wants to be. It's silent 441 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:14,159 when it wants to be, and attacks when it wants to be, and 442 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,199 it installs fear in your soul. So what are we going to do about 443 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:24,280 that? How can we cope with this? Unfortunately, those guys are too 444 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,039 good at what they do. Yeah, they're really good at getting a rise 445 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:31,199 out of this whenever they want to. After it smiled at you, you 446 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,800 said it ran up that steep cliff. Did it do that on four legs 447 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,199 or two two legs? It was already on two legs. I never saw 448 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:49,079 it on four It was up that hill. Like, never see anything like 449 00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:52,280 it. I never see anything like it. I mean, you're talking about 450 00:48:52,320 --> 00:49:00,000 twenty feet and it didn't make a sound. That's one of the reasons why 451 00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:07,840 we thought that maybe this thing was some kind of spiritual creature, because it 452 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:13,000 didn't make a sound when it went up that hill. So it's real confusing. 453 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,480 It's real confusing. I mean, to get down to the nitty gritty 454 00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:22,960 of all this, it's real confusing. It makes noise when it wants to, 455 00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:32,199 it's intimidating, It leaves fear in its weight, it lives for fear. 456 00:49:35,039 --> 00:49:38,760 So what is this? You know? I mean, it could have 457 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:46,000 ripped us apart. Man, that thing could have ripped us to shreds. 458 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:53,360 We're just fifteen and sixteen year old boys. We didn't have a chance. 459 00:49:53,800 --> 00:50:01,400 We had what do we have? A knife? A spear, sharpened sticks? 460 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:10,440 This thing? You gotta be kidding me. So that probably is the 461 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:17,960 biggest confusion in my brain, and that's probably why I'm going back out because 462 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:25,760 I want to understand why. Why would something function that way? That's not 463 00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:31,519 the nature of a predator. So what are we dealing with here? Are 464 00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:38,000 we dealing with something spiritual? Are we dealing with something that we shouldn't be 465 00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:44,920 dealing with? Is this some kind of experiment gone wrong? Is it something 466 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:52,599 left over from War two? I don't know. I don't know, but 467 00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:57,599 I'm going to tell you straight up, this is an apex predator on methamphetamy. 468 00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:02,880 I mean, it's just crazy. I want the best for you, 469 00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:06,800 Keith, I really do. When you go out there tomorrow night, he 470 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,280 part of me hopes he gets some answers, and another part of me hopes 471 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:14,119 that you don't get those answers. If you'd like to be able to listen 472 00:51:14,159 --> 00:51:17,119 to the show without ads and have full access to bonus content. That's an 473 00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:22,559 option. To find out how, please go to Dogman Encounters dot com Forward 474 00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:28,519 Slash Podcast. I'll tell you what. Having said that, I've got a 475 00:51:28,679 --> 00:51:31,239 laundry list of questions to ask you still, but we're out of time. 476 00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:35,960 Would you mind coming back next week to answer all these questions for me that 477 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,320 I still have for you. I will if you'll have me great. Yeah, 478 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,239 I'd love to have you back on. Well, yeah, we'll just 479 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,079 come back on next week and I'll have those questions ready for you. We'll 480 00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:51,480 take her from there then, Keith, I want to thank you so much 481 00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:53,719 for coming on the show this week, and of course I'm looking forward to 482 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,199 having you back next week. So thanks again so much for your time, 483 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,960 and I'm looking forward to having you back. Thank you, Vick, and 484 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:06,119 thank you for everybody that listens, and thank you for your show. And 485 00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:08,719 I thank the world of you because of the work you do. Well, 486 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,639 thanks for the good words, but I wouldn't have it any other way. 487 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,519 But having said that, thanks again so much for your timing. We'll talk 488 00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:17,320 with you next week.