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Well, I'm very pleased to bring
into the podcast this week. It is

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the excellent undefeated welterweight contender Virgil Ortiz
Junior. Virgil, Welcome to the show,

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and thank you very much for doing
this today. Hey, thanks for

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having Yeah, it's my pleasure.
We're here to talk about You've got a

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very important fight. Let's just say
it's been a long time coming, right,

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You're gonna You're gonna challenge the WBA
Regular welterweight champion Amantes Stanionis. It

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is on July eighth on the Zone
from the A ten T Center in San

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Antonio, not too far from your
stomping grounds in the Dallas area. A

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little bit of a hometown crowd for
you, I assume will be on hand.

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The first thing I'd like to know, as I mentioned, this fight's

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a long time coming. This fight
was supposed to be on March eighteenth,

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postponed because Stanionis suffered had had needed
an append an appendeck to me, an

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emergency appendeck to me, So the
fight was postponed. Then when it was

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rescheduled, of course, uh not
that it's everybody knows at this point you

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had a relapse of your rap though
the blood disorder that was giving you problems

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how to be postponed again and now
here we are, m can you just

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tell me just about your general thoughts
about having to put off this significant fight,

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you know multiple times. I mean, it's a big fight for both

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of you guys. Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a huge fight for

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both of us, and h you
know my thoughts on that, it's just,

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uh, at the end of the
day, I'm just I'm glad it's

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still happening. You know. It
is a fight that I wanted to happen.

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It was an opportunity that I wanted
to pass up. You know,

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I could have taken a kind of
like a stay busy, get get back

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better fight, um, but I
was want to lose an opportunity to fight

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for this belt, to fight against
Stanny Owners and I really wanted to and

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still want to fight against him.
So, you know, they wanted me

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to take another month off, but
I was like, you know what,

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I'm ready. I'm ready now.
I feel it in my bones, like

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I'm ready. So I just let's
just do it, man. That's that's

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what we're right now. So because
of the postponents, everything that's happened,

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you haven't fought since last August.
He's going to be coming off a fight.

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He hasn't had a fight since April
of last year. Um, and

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you fought four times in twenty nineteen, still on the rise at that point,

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you know, knocking everybody out.
And since twenty nineteen you've had a

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total of four fights, so it's
obviously been a much slower schedule for you.

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Can you kind of just verbalize if
if there is frustration about the lack

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of activity, we you know,
the postponents and just trying to be able

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to gain some momentum, because every
time you do fight, you score a

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knockout, you usually look great doing
it, and then it's a long way

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till the next fight. Yeah,
of course, you know, so it's,

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uh the lack of activity, you
know, it's it's it's frustrating,

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you know, you know, you
I get to chaining in and you know,

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get to win, I have momentum
behind me, just for it to

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uh, just for me to lose
the momentum and not fight again the next

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year and you know, just in
folve months. You know, it's it's

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more frustrating, but we're trying to
make the most out of everything. Um,

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you know, we're overcoming every obstacle
and uh you know, I hopefully

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after this fight we can we can
change that again and we can get the

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same moral over again. So I
must ask, how is your health now

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after all the issues? My health
is great. It's awesow to now.

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Well, I'm really glad to hear
that, because I mean, the first

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thing, you got to take care
of yourself as far as you know,

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being a boxer is tough enough.
But if you're not healthy going into the

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fight, you know you're doomed.
I saw some comments or hurt some comments

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from you where you're in your issue
in this relapse with rabdough was due to

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you having long COVID and it not
you know, it impacting your immune system

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or whatever the issue was, and
was making this, uh you know,

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sort of exacerbating this problem that it
occurred once before. Are you over long

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COVID or do you still have symptoms
of it? Do you have to do

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anything different as far as you know, altering your training and you know,

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to make sure it doesn't happen again, Like what have they told you about

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that? How how do you deal
with it? So I'll tell you,

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Like how so you know after COVID. So my first fight after COVID was

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Samuel Margins. And if you pay
attention to to the post fight interview or

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whatever, that's probably the interview probably
happened like five minutes after like the fight

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in the it or whatever. I
was talseling and push and I literally could

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not talk. And because I was, I was trying to breathe, like

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I just I could not breathe.
And uh, you know, ever since

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that happened, Uh, notice in
my training, like I was getting tired,

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like in the first second round.
I just it was it was.

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It was a struggle. And uh, you know, leading up to the

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other five Hooker, I got COVID
again. Literally a month before the Hooker

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fight, maybe like two three two
three weeks before, I had a train

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like that literally thought I was going
to die. I'm not exaggerating. I'm

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not exaggerating, Like, but you
don't realize at this point that that's what

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they turn along COVID. No,
Okay, So now you have the Murray's

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Hooker fight again. You look great
in that fight, scored a knockout in

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the seventh round. Yeah, and
but to be honest, I didn't feel

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that strong enough fight even in my
last sparring. Um, you know,

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they really didn't want me to fight, and I was just like, man

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like, I just went through all
this shit. I just I just had

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COVID. I just spark during COVID. I just trained. I didn't look

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horrible in sparring. You know,
I'm always in that. I'm always gonna

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keep some kind of you know,
technical ability in there, you know,

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because I do what I do.
But I wasn't one hundred percent. I

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wasn't ninety eighty. I was sort
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would say, but I knew that
I still had it in me to win.

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And uh, you know I want
against Race Hooker without my power being

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there. You know, racist isn't
that big. But I feel like I

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was not moving him the way I
should have. I felt like I should

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have got him out of there and
making maybe like before probably if I'm being

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but you know, then we got
the met Machine fight. I don't think

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I looked too better in the met
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it's it was just a long time
coming that my body was just not

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recovering after that. Now, I
wasn't giving it time to recover because my

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body wasn't there, saying I didn't
know that yet. So how did you

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then find out that, in fact
it was long COVID or attributed to the

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COVID that you had had previously.
So I always had my suspicions. But

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I'm not a doctor, right,
you know, I've always had my suspicions.

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I knew something was up with my
body because no one really knows my

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body better than me. I know
I'm feeling one hundred percent of the time,

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I'm me being about to I'm not
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don't Sometimes they don't know when I'm
not a hundred percent because this is my

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job not not to show weakness,
you know. But recently we had to

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throughout this whole recovery process, and
he said, yeah, it's do the

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long COVID, and and I told
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Machine Kabalowskis, you were supposed to
have the Mtiction fight that was postponed because

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of your first incident with Rabdough,
and then you got a rescheduled I guess

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you felt better and you went into
the mckinson fight finally in August of last

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year. When you had that fight, did you feel like you would overcome

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the long copd or was I giving
you problems yet again? Like you meant?

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It was for the Vargus Hooker and
Mean Machine fights. So I definitely

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didn't feel strong that fight. I
feel like that was the worst I had

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ever went into a fight. I
think that that was the first fight where

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I was sitting the mits in the
locker room and there was no explosion.

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I was just like, oh damn, like you know, and yeah,

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my hands talks to mckinsen. He
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like I'm lucky that it was against
him, because he was He's not a

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power puncher, He's not a relentinist
fighter like that. So I feel like

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I kind of got lucky that it
wasn't someone else. You know, Well,

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I'm looking at the roster of the
fights that we've talked about. Samuel

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Vargus has been like, maybe not
a world champion, but he's been a

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pretty decent contender and fought a lot
of good opponents. Maurice Hooker is obviously

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a very reputable fighter. He was
a former world champion. Cavlowskis an Olympian.

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Duve Crawford one of his toughest fights. You know, been in the

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ring with a lot of good guys. A good welterweight contender. Mckinson,

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like you mentioned, maybe not the
you know, the strongest guy out there,

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but he was undefeated when you fought
him. So you're telling me,

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basically, you're beating like solid quality
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in terms of what the scorecards were
reading at the time that you scored the

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knockout and you're fighting them at like
sixty percent. What does that say about

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the type of fighter that you are
and just the threshold you have for dealing

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with these types of things. Yeah, I mean, I just what's that

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one about? Mindus something? And
I know I can do it. You

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know, I don't want to make
myself big headed, but if I'm put

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in a situation where I'd either show
myself or to everyone else, but mostly

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to myself, that I can do
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Okay. Now, stanionis with all
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I just mentioned, my opinion is
that he would be on a higher level,

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a better grade of opponent. Also
undefeated, also was an Olympian,

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you know, had that very grueling
victory against Betiah to get this title.

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What is your take on stanny Onis
and what he brings to the table.

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He showed a lot of heart,
a lot of resilience when he won the

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belt against Beatia in his last fight, and uh, you know had that

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decorated amateur career. So I'm sure
you've taken a look at him. Give

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me your thoughts about your opponent that
you're gonna face. No, he's He's

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definitely a guy that I've had my
on. I think that that he's a

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kind of fighter that that that bringses
you know, he's he's just one of

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those fighters that the fantom to watch
and uh, it was clear why he's

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a He's a relatant spider and you
know he can be dangerous too. So

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when I look at this fight,
I mean, we know that the Terrence

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Crawford fight with Spence is coming up
at the end of the July. They're

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sort of like the generation right before
you. I guess with Keith Thurman and

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Danny Garcia, Sean Porter, even
andre Berto Laman Peterson, a lot of

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good fighters in there. I feel
like you guys are maybe that that what's

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kicking off the next era of welterweight
boxing. Uh do you feel like that

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is the case that that you guys
are gonna once they're gonna lead the way

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into this next group of one hundred
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So we're like the kind of like
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there's high school classes were like the
new class coming up, and uh,

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we're we're gonna be ruling for a
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want to wrap it up with this, Virgil. I appreciate you doing this.

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Uh how do you think the fight
goes? And is it all important

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for you to extend your knockout trick? You are nineteen o with nineteen knockouts,

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You've you've knocked every man out that
you've faced, So how do you

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think this one goes? And I
know you think you're gonna win, but

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do you think you also extend that
knockout a record? I guess you know

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he's a he's a tough fighter.
So I'm not gonna say that I am

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I'm gonna knock him out because I
truly don't know. He's a he's a

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tough fighter. Uh. Will I
take the opportunity if I see it?

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You know, of course, as
everyone else will. So really I can't.

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This isn't even me trying to be
humble. This is just a tough

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fighter. Yeah, you know it's
it's I truly don't know. Well,

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I'll be very interest to watch it. I think That's one of the reasons

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why it is a fascinating fight because
nobody really know. I mean sometimes you

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have a real feeling, you know, you think you know, but you

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guys have both shown you can do
a lot of different things in that ring.

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So all I can say is best
of lucky. And I know many

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many boxing means are very anxious and
excited to watch this one, and especially

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after the delay. So I'm glad
it's back on and I wish you the

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best. Love Vergal, thank you
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