WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:07.799 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzales on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:14.919 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions katz R 3 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:20.239 Tucsa at iHeartRadio Statia. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Spring Night, 4 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:24.120 Spring Day in Tucson. We'll come tying the ball. I'm Steve Rivera, 5 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:29.199 you're Jaginsaus. Got a guy Kevin in the house today for Monday. How 6 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:33.759 about them cats? How about them cat? Uh? Surprised? Not at 7 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:40.159 least at all, Not at all. Kevin, you were out of the 8 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:44.640 room Friday for you were you were doing your man business, out of time 9 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:50.200 or two. And when you were out your man business, I assume it's 10 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:54.280 some man business. I don't know, Pete whatever. So Kevin and I 11 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:56.159 talked, right, we talked to what do we think it was like? 12 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:58.759 A We talked it was a locker to me, it was a locker. 13 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:00.520 You felt I us. I felt like it was gonna be a no brainer 14 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:06.239 that Arizona was certainly going to win and cover against the Ducks, right, 15 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.400 and then we talked about it on the show. Thankfully, you did not 16 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:14.840 touch it. I did not touch it. That's why I said I deserve 17 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:19.959 a percentage of what you want, because I want I was going Cats in 18 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:23.719 the over and both of those hit you were you would not be going for 19 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.680 the Cats had we not told you that. Yeah, you know, I 20 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:30.879 I was okay, all right, all right, I'll admit I didn't take 21 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:36.920 it because I just wasn't didn't feel all that great about it. For the 22 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:41.719 same reason that I felt that the Ravens were gonna win is that I thought, 23 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:44.359 you know, at some point, Tommy Lloyd is going to lose two 24 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:47.280 games in a row, and if there's a place for it to happen, 25 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.840 this is it. Because they're not playing well. They got beat by a 26 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:52.640 last place team on Thursday night yesterday. I think that they would come out 27 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:57.200 a little more fired up and play with a little more determination. But I 28 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.480 still still thought they're at Oregon. They haven't won there since like I was 29 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:07.359 born, and you know, I just didn't think Jay, you grew up 30 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:10.319 watching this program, so I don't know much about much about before eighty seventh 31 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:15.400 and when I started covering the team in ninety one. The one thing I 32 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:19.520 learned from this program loot probably Sean I didn't follow Shawan as close to this 33 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:23.800 probably should have. If Arizona is challenged, right, they show up. 34 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:28.759 If they're not challenged, they don't. That's it. Yeah, that's it. 35 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:32.639 First round losses, first round losses, exactly. That that's your title, 36 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:37.319 that's your tombstone title in the first round losses. So to back that 37 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:38.840 up, Steve our friend Brian Peterson, who's gonna be on the show later 38 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:42.960 today. I don't know if you guys saw this, but he tweeted on 39 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:46.159 the twenty seventh, he tweeted that Arizona might just need big crowds, and 40 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:49.960 then he tweeted the stat the Wildcats are fourteen and won this season in games 41 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:53.639 where the attendance is nine thousand or more. That includes wins at Duke, 42 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:58.159 Oregon and neutral side victories in Phoenix and Palm Springs. They're one and four 43 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.400 when there are fewer than seventy five hundred fans and zero to three when the 44 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:06.159 announced attendance is blow five thousand. Yeah. Well that's he could put that 45 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.560 up for the last twenty five thirty years. Yeah, because that's just how 46 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:13.719 it is. Morning games, first round games Miami, Ohio had two thousand 47 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:16.199 people. Yeah, the loose yeah, I can remember the games if they're 48 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:20.960 not motivated to play. Hell, they won the ninety seven title game in 49 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:23.680 that first round because they almost lost that first round, right, It was 50 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:28.800 just they think they can just show up. Yeah, well, I My 51 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:34.719 problem, Steve, is that my mentality as it relates to football spills over 52 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:38.240 into basketball and no, no, no, you know, and just like 53 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:43.719 I you know, after Arizona got beat by a USC in a tough game 54 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.240 that they should have won, I thought, I didn't think very much of 55 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:51.560 their chances going into Washington State, and they came back and beat the living 56 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:53.719 hell out of those guys and the rest was history. Same thing. I 57 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:58.879 just you know, it's just like when you're you're when you're beating down Arizona 58 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:00.240 fan like I am, you just think they're not going to be able to 59 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.400 get it together in time to beat Oregon. Yeah. Yeah, no, 60 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:05.759 no, it's uh, that's just the way it is. I get it, 61 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:09.919 because you you have you're just a wounded dog in the corner. No, 62 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:13.479 I mean, you've been kicked in the side so many times that you 63 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:15.800 know, with all due respect to dogs, but that's just the analogy. 64 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:20.319 That's because that's what happens. You can go through years and years of this 65 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:24.879 analysis, like like Brian did, and we're gonna have him on the show 66 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:29.079 here in about ten minutes. Give Arizona a reason to win, and then 67 00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:30.759 they win. They will give them no reasons just to show up and they 68 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:35.879 don't well again. After what was arguably the worst loss in the history of 69 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:40.319 Arizona basketball when they got beat by Santa Clara in ninety two, they go 70 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:44.399 to the final four the next year. Yeah you know, yeah, he 71 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:46.759 changes it up, yeah, gives him some some encouragement. It was ninety 72 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:50.360 three. It was ninety three, yeah, three, And then he came 73 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:55.000 back and they go to the final four. Right. And then on the 74 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:59.160 other hand, they win the national championship, get everybody back, no no, 75 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:01.480 and poop on their leg in the in the because it was Utah. 76 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:04.079 They had already played them, they beat him before. I had a history 77 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:06.920 of beating them easily, and they just beat the crap out of them. 78 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.439 I mean, Jay, if you're going to write a thesis or for your 79 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:15.360 graduate degree, this is it. And why And we get ahold of the 80 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:19.439 psychology girl from from you a get her quotes. We're done. No, 81 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:24.360 yeah, no, seriously. I mean, it's it's weird. It's weird, 82 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:29.560 but I will say that, you know, I only got to see 83 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:31.040 the very beginning because I had no I didn't even see the very beginning. 84 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:33.720 I had to I was having my I was having my daughter move I got. 85 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:40.000 I got the last half of the second half. So I was listening 86 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:43.519 to Brian Jeffers on the radio, and when Arizona got out to the you 87 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.800 know, the quick lead, I thought, yeah, they're going to win 88 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:48.240 this game, and they and they were never headed. So so let me 89 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:51.600 ask you this, okay, Soley, So they went on Saturday very impressively. 90 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:58.519 Do you think they'll ever lose again in the Pac twelve? And I 91 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:01.319 say this for a reason because because everybody and everybody everything's right in the world. 92 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:03.519 Right, Yeah, they win a game and everything's you know, the 93 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:08.480 sun sunny year, it's eighty two degrees here and everybody's happy. But but 94 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:14.759 using the thesis from the attendance and stuff, they're gonna have a clunker here 95 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:18.240 in here or two again. I see I see them splitting the l a 96 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:21.639 trip, right, yeah, one of those teams is gonna be them. 97 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:27.079 You see the plays, you say they're playing very well. Again, I 98 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:30.519 see them, I see and then and they'll probably they could lose too at 99 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:35.120 Colorado and right right right, because you know those and those games though, 100 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:39.519 are gonna be packed, they're gonna be ready blah blah blah blah, and 101 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:42.600 there was if they don't know that they need to show up, that's on 102 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.279 them. Yeah, and maybe again, you know, if if, if, 103 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:47.000 if, the they you know, they'll be good, good crowds for 104 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:51.040 those two games or the Utah Colorado game that comes after I got cal Stafford 105 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:55.639 at home this week. Then they go to Utah and Colorado, you know, 106 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:58.519 they'll have good crowds. They'll they'll be geared up. Maybe they play 107 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:00.279 really well. Yeah, you know yea. So let me ask you, 108 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:05.040 so both you guys will portion the game, what would pressure you the most? 109 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:12.399 Caleb's thirty six where he was fantastic or more importantly or was it more 110 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:15.920 important that Calen bobs will played well? It was more important for calin bos 111 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:19.240 Wow to play well? I agree. You know he he had a smile 112 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:21.920 on his face in the second hand. You hadn't seen it in a one. 113 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:25.319 I hadn't seen it in a long time. He had he had a 114 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:29.040 smile on his face. He felt good on the court, He's doing something. 115 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:32.480 Yeah, you felt like the court was not a foreign place for him 116 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:38.199 again, that it was like he belonged there and was playing the type of 117 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:42.040 basketball that we saw him play early in the year. But more importantly, 118 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:46.839 just if he looked like a weight had been lifted off his shoulders and if 119 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.199 he can keep that together. Look, I think it's perfect for them to 120 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:53.519 come home and play two games at home. Now, if they had to 121 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:57.040 go on the road again, I'd say it could be hard. But you 122 00:07:57.079 --> 00:07:59.879 know, to come home, they got callum Stanford. They're gonna want to 123 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.639 use to Stanford very much. So on Sunday, Yeah, you know there's 124 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:05.759 a double header on Sunday, the women and the men right right on that 125 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:09.879 day, Like what times that women aren't noon and the men are at six? 126 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:13.439 Okay, oh really it's a long stretch. Yeah, so it's you 127 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.279 know, they finish at two thirty, clean up the arena and then getting 128 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:20.519 ready to get Yeah. But anyways, I think I think this this home 129 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:26.040 stand, or it's two games, that sets up well for them to continue 130 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:28.600 to gather themselves and get ready to go for what's going to be a really, 131 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:33.720 really tough road trip to the Mountain Schools. Yeah, and I think 132 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.559 it's important that Kylon had a Boswell had a better game just because we know 133 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.480 that Caleb, we know that Caleb Love can do that. He was well. 134 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:43.600 It was a career high, right, it was a special night. 135 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.600 We know he can be the top end scorer for this team. But we 136 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.200 needed to see Boswell have a more stable performance amidst all the unstable ones that 137 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:56.080 we've been seeing from here's the thing for me for for Love, he took 138 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.960 only eighteen, only eighteen shots for thirty six points, right, which usually 139 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:01.960 he's he's on fire, he throws up a bunch of throwing up everything. 140 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:05.720 Yeah, and for you know, twenty points, you know, eighteen for 141 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.759 twenty point whatever it is. But he was fantastic, very efficient. I 142 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.039 played well. It's funny how he talks to the interview. Oh, you 143 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.480 want to thanks my teammates for setting me up. No, you just took 144 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:18.919 the shots of you know, the shots were there, and you know, 145 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.200 I mean he played thirty nine minutes, We played the whole game. But 146 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:24.600 he was twelve of eighteen from the field, five to eight from three. 147 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:26.840 But you look at Colin Boswell's lying. You know, five of twelve a 148 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:30.639 little under fifty percent, but two of five from three, yeah, but 149 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.639 three assists, two steals, only one turnover. He played a complete game. 150 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:39.679 And and to me that that's what you have to do. Uh you 151 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:43.960 know uh uh you know, Umar Ballow you know had uh you know nine 152 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:48.200 he had a game and some points, nine rebounds, really had a double 153 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.559 double with some foul trouble. Yeah, right, both he and Crevias had 154 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:54.519 some foul trouble. So you know, it was it was a game that 155 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.440 they needed to have. They shot nearly fifty percent from the field, but 156 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:03.320 made ten three pointers and so you know, on the road. As as 157 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:07.480 Tommy said, it looked like their best game. Yeah, you know, 158 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:09.320 yeah, most complete game of the season. Right, And it's a good 159 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:13.120 time. It's funny because I was listening to Field of sixty eight or whatever 160 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:16.679 last week and he was talking about they were talking about and it's a silly 161 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:22.759 podcast to me. You know, it's they have the struggle here and it's 162 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.080 it's now the time to peak. You don't know when you're peaking. Every 163 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:28.879 game. Every game is different. You can have a peak in November if 164 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:31.960 you don't play well. Ever, Zona peak in ninety seven. No, 165 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.519 they played well for six straight games. They were peaking in ninety eight. 166 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:39.120 Well again, the ninety seven team lost its last two regular games. They 167 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:43.399 got swept on the road, so they had but then it went the crowd. 168 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:48.200 Yeah to my point, Yeah, but you get it. It's a 169 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:50.759 lot of times you don't know if you're peak exactly exactly you want to peak, 170 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.000 yeah, but you don't know if you are. To get on the 171 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.480 field and you play a stretch of games in a row, they said, 172 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:58.240 Okay, this one's better than the last one, and better than the last 173 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.559 one, better than the last And for the most part, it's it's something 174 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:03.639 that we look at after after the fact and say, oh, that's when 175 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:07.960 that peaks. And they peaked at the right time instead of this team didn't 176 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.639 seem to be a practice and be like, guys, we're really peaking this 177 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:13.840 week. Hey, but let's pump the brakes, don't they don't the opponents 178 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:18.200 have something to say about that and how well they play the peak? We 179 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:22.480 thought the Ravens were peaking, No exactly, oh year, No, no, 180 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.159 ers are going back. Let's talk about the casey for the middle of 181 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:30.919 the season was what the hell's wrong with What's the hell wrong with Case? 182 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.000 There have always been Case. Now they're showing showing who they know, who 183 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:41.039 they are, and I'm so pissed at myself for going I went against the 184 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.000 Green I mean, I said on the show, I said, you know, 185 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:50.480 uh uh uh Patrick Mahomes has entered that territory where you say, don't 186 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:54.000 bet against him. You know, you know, beware of betting against uh 187 00:11:54.200 --> 00:12:00.000 uh Patrick Mahomes because he's just gonna step up when he needs to step up. 188 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.360 And he and he has and he did again. So what he does 189 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:07.039 everybody else does too, right, Well, that's it. He brings people 190 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:09.720 with him. Well it sounds like the guy. Yeah, and that's why 191 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.600 he's so mad. Earlier in the year when his receivers weren't elevating with me, 192 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.559 he was like, guys, I'm doing my best. Didn't Tommy, 193 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:22.000 didn't Tom Brady? Uh, Mike a living doing that exactly, guys. 194 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.480 Get on his guys to get them to play harder. Hey Manning and Jeff 195 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:28.159 Saturday Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all those guys. So so 196 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.440 get up, get up, guys. I need you guys here. I 197 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:37.559 can't carry this program. So I have to decide if blood is thicker than 198 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:43.840 water and whether or not I go against my kids have a funny story. 199 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.200 I have a funny story in forty nine ers. So my my son Adam, 200 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:50.240 and he just did you know what a forty nine I got? Joe 201 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:52.200 mont Dana Jersey in here dead, said forty niners. He did not want 202 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:54.200 to come over and watch a game, he said, No, said, 203 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:56.919 I've been to the last two Super Bowls at your house and they've lost. 204 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:01.879 I'm not coming, And Adam, it's it's it's our Sunday family dinner. 205 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:03.799 You have to go. All right, I'll come, but if they start 206 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.960 losing, I'm leaving. And so he comes, and maybe we made hamburgers. 207 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:11.840 In the first half, he said, he choked down his and he 208 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.799 ate and he left. At halftime. He left his wife and kid at 209 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:20.000 our house and he went home to watch the game, and and they came 210 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:22.559 back and won. He'll never see your kid again, yeah, I said, 211 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:24.639 so. So I even bother asking if you're coming over for the Super 212 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.639 Bowl that I don't know who you are. He let, I mean, 213 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.960 he high tailed it out of the house, and like I said, he 214 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:37.120 left his family behind. Well, they came back and need a nice little 215 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:43.559 comeback. Thankfully, the Detroit kind of collapsed in front of him, which 216 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.919 feels worse today being a Ravens fan or being a Lions fan. I think 217 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.000 the Lions. I heard a good point I was. I would have said 218 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:52.799 Lions too. I heard a good point though that the Ravens have been here 219 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.759 more recently than the Lions. Lions fans in a week or two, they're 220 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:56.759 gonna be like, I'm just happy we had the season that we had. 221 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:01.559 They're always going to have this season right, no matter what happens going forward. 222 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:05.279 But the Ravens fans, I feel like they at least have passed success 223 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:09.120 to be like to look back on the glory days of whatever twelve years ago, 224 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:13.919 Well, what about the sugar sensus now and how good they've been the 225 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:16.960 last several years and can't get over the top. That's fair. I do 226 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.759 think that's fair. But for the Lions, they were this close. They 227 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:26.679 they they didn't give it away. I mean, the Niners took it from 228 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:31.600 him, but damn they they they did their part to give up. He 229 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:35.879 is he is okay, all right? Brian Peterson coming I we're gonna talk 230 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.000 somewhere you have a basketball uh and the weekend that they had just a weird 231 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:43.360 weekend, and then some of the women, the women still it's been It's 232 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:48.039 been an interesting weekend. So stick around for Brian Peterson from Azy Desert Swarm 233 00:14:48.039 --> 00:15:01.120 dot com. We'll r at back make the right choice for your home when 234 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:03.399 it comes to windows and doors. 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We have Brian Peterson from Arizona as desert 308 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:27.960 storm or desert storm or swarm? Where how are you from? I'm looking 309 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:33.000 at rough glasses with snow glasses on that. He does a good job on 310 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:36.680 that site. We're talking about men's basketball obviously, and some maybe some football, 311 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:40.880 some women's basketball because you have that covered as well. But I don't 312 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:44.839 think that you're shocked at you have a beat Oregon this weekend, are you? 313 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:49.680 Uh No? I mean it's so weird. This team seems to always 314 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:55.480 play its best or under Tommy right after a lost. And it's been that 315 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:56.880 way this year, it was the way last year, it was that way 316 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:00.440 the year before, and also it's like the big games, it just seems 317 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:06.599 like that they play up for more than maybe the lower ones. And I 318 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:11.599 found the weirdest stat before the game on Saturday, and it's still played out 319 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:15.960 if there's more than nine thousand people in the crowd. Arizona has won all 320 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.759 but one game this year. The only one they didn't win was the Curdue 321 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:22.039 game, which was just a great game and a better opponent. But the 322 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:26.599 four there, I think one in four when there's less than like seventy five 323 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:29.440 hundred people and if there's less than five thousand, they just don't win. 324 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:32.839 And maybe there's that whole you know, they say you got to bring your 325 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:37.079 own energy on the road. Maybe this team doesn't bring its own energy that 326 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:41.759 it needs a good hostile crowd, whether it's in their favor or against them, 327 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:45.400 to get them hiped up. Yeah, I mean it it makes sense 328 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:47.720 because you know, I mean, they're used to the crowds here. It's 329 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:51.039 always loud, it's always crazy, and they you know, and they love 330 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:53.880 playing. They get used to that, and you almost feel like they've got 331 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.319 to feel a little out of sorts if it's not like that. Yeah, 332 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:02.400 I mean, that's that's just an number, and it should it shouldn't matter. 333 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:06.279 It also means that I think the rest of their road games this year, 334 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:11.559 Colorado, Utah, Asu and USCU the CLA should have good crowds, 335 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.000 so there might not be another example to see what they would do in front 336 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:22.799 of kind of a quiet or small crowd. But the inconsistency is still a 337 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:26.720 concern. I mean, they haven't won consecutive games since starting the season, 338 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:30.200 or they haven't won more than two in a row. I should say since 339 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:34.279 starting the season eight to no. Now they may have an opportunity here to 340 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:37.960 get at least three in a row before they go back out on the road 341 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:41.359 to Colorado and Utah. At some point I think though that Tommy should have 342 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.119 or should be getting their attention because the rest of the way it's important to 343 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.480 get those wins. Given the you know, they're still at number two, 344 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:52.319 I think I think there are number two on most most things, so they 345 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:55.799 have to stay there at least stay there. So every game has to be 346 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:57.880 important. And I said before you came on, Brian and you followed the 347 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:03.279 team for a long time, if they think it's an important game to show 348 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:04.799 up, if it's just one of those games where there we can just show 349 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:07.519 up and beat them by our pure talent. They lose. I've seen that 350 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:11.920 lout. It was probably happening with Sean, with Lute, I know that 351 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:18.519 happened. But the thing is is that if you don't think every game is 352 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:26.079 important, then these things happen, and they should all be considered appointment important, 353 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:29.519 especially as you get to this point in the season. And last year 354 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.200 down the stretch, they started to treat every game like it was important. 355 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:37.640 The only game they lost, the only game they lost down the stretch before 356 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:41.480 the NCAA Tournament, the ASU game, which was just a wild one, 357 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:47.359 especially with the half court shot, and losing at UCLA, which was going 358 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:48.839 to be a really big game. I mean, that was a great matchup. 359 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.039 But then they go and they win all the games in the Pac twelve 360 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:55.200 tournament. But then, yeah, they probably just said, well, Princeton's 361 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:59.240 not who need to worry about Let's concern ourselves with the second opponent and moving 362 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:03.400 on from there and these other teams. It's always the most important game when 363 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.319 you're faking Arizona exactly. Yeah, no, no, no doubt. So 364 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:10.759 I mean, what were you thinking after the Oregon State game? Were you 365 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:15.039 thinking that a blip where you've you know, so many fans were panicking. 366 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:17.720 You know, I'm saying your thinking they're playing their way into a three or 367 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:21.519 four seed, you know, I mean, what were your thoughts after that 368 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:26.839 game and that loss to the last place team in the league. Just that 369 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:32.880 they are not the same team without that support that they have, that away 370 00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:37.440 from home, it's very difficult for them for whatever reason, and that just 371 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:42.920 fundamental things keep breaking down, particularly the leaving guys open on the perimeter. 372 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:48.559 And Tommy had said afterwards that it is bigs act like they've never seen a 373 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:52.920 big man shoot a three because it's I had found a stat going into the 374 00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:57.839 Oregon game, guys in the Pac twelve who were six nine or taller were 375 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:02.599 shooting forty three percent on three pointers. Skin Parasel Well, I was gonna 376 00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:04.680 ask you before you Kim on the show. I asked the guys here, 377 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:11.440 what was more impressive to you, Caleb doing his thirty six or impressive maybe 378 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:17.079 important Caleb doing his thirty six, or killin doing his job. Kylin having 379 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:21.039 that better game, Yes, was much more important, especially because early on 380 00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:25.519 you saw multiple instances where it looked like he was second guessing himself. He 381 00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:27.960 had that time where he was in the air with a wide open three and 382 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:33.079 at the last moment passes out of it, merely throws it away and then 383 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:34.599 gets it back and drains it. And then there was at least one other 384 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:41.720 time where he hesitated and gave up on the shot. And so there's definitely 385 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:47.759 something there as far as him being uncertain about himself, but the fact that 386 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.359 he was able to put up fourteen and showed a lot more assertiveness, particularly 387 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.160 on the defensive end. Actually in both games I think. I mean, 388 00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:00.079 he had four fouls against Oregon State and that's the first time in his career 389 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.400 he's had four fouls because he was trying to defend and sometimes you need to 390 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.400 do that. If you're not able to contribute in one way, you need 391 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:10.279 to find another way to do it, and he was trying to do it 392 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:14.039 on the defensive end. So, you know, we talk about teams peaking 393 00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:17.759 and Arizona certainly you can't say to them about that about them right now, 394 00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:19.400 but you know they have to get to that point and you know, to 395 00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:22.839 get ready for Marshall, what do you need to see this week to feel 396 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.599 like, Okay, you know they're they're they're starting to put some things together. 397 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:30.279 I mean they need to win by a lot. Do they need to 398 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.799 be very impressive or just a couple of wins in any way they can get 399 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.680 them. I mean, what do you think, what do you think Tommy 400 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.680 Lloyd wants to see this week? Well, the Stamford game provides the first 401 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.640 revenge opportunity of this year and last year. They were successful in all those 402 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.759 first times facing someone after losing to them. In fact, every time they 403 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:53.079 face an opponent they had lost to previously under Tommy Lloyd, they have won. 404 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:57.880 And that kind of also feeds into the hole responding to a loss, 405 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.839 not just beating Stanford. I think the key in that one is take away 406 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.759 the things that Stanford was doing so well. Yes, some of their shots 407 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.440 were unconscious, but they also that was the first real instance where we saw 408 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.319 that they had so many wide open three point shooters and particularly guys who are 409 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:22.400 bigger, So showing that they can address that would be helpful. It is 410 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:26.400 funny that the one team in the Pac twelve that didn't shoot well against Arizona 411 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.759 that has good shooting big men is Utah and those guys had a lot of 412 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.680 open looks but just miss them. So that might just be a flaw of 413 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:38.319 this team. If you remember the Alabama game, that kid Grant Nelson was 414 00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:42.200 three or fifteen from three and most of those were wide openly. So it 415 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:45.599 is a big flaw for this team. But since Stanford was the one that 416 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:51.079 really kind of exposed it in league play to start, I think that's what 417 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:53.599 Tommy's going to want to see, is that, you know, Foolmy wants 418 00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:56.359 shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I have to 419 00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.880 show that I can address that and fix it. Yeah, and they have 420 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.039 the comforts of home. I think next week, next week on the road 421 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:07.200 will be the test of where they're at because Colorado and Utah are not going 422 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:12.480 to be easy places to play. Correct. Correct. I believe both of 423 00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:18.319 them are unbeaten at home this year, right, And so I mean that's 424 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.599 that's going to be a very tough trip. And you know, I thought, 425 00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.640 actually losing to Oregon State that this was going to be the first back 426 00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.640 to back losses under Tommy that it really does stand out as an opportunity. 427 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.519 But that's it's a kind of trip where if you lose both of those games, 428 00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:40.400 it's not as big a deal. As it would be on some of 429 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:44.200 these other trips, unless it's about the way they lose. If these are 430 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.799 competitive games that they lose, then that's one thing. But if it's games 431 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:51.559 where they clearly were outmatched and outplayed and out coached, then that's more of 432 00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:55.599 a concert. What do you make of Lumarballo, I mean, what he 433 00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:59.720 kind of comes and goes well? I think that. I mean, it's 434 00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:04.519 very very evident that not having someone like Ishulis Tavellis right next to him shows 435 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:10.880 how limited he is from an offensive player, because if he is the focal 436 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:15.519 point down low, he maybe isn't good enough to be able to beat all 437 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:19.359 these guys and particularly finished through traffic. But when he adds somebody that had 438 00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.000 to be paid attention to just as well, just as much, if not 439 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:26.960 more, then that was making it so that his opportunities were a lot more 440 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.720 open. I do still think there is a lot of value to the amount 441 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:34.440 of fouls he draws, and that it helps from the accumulative It just when 442 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:40.440 you get into later in games and the free throws are more meaningful, you 443 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:45.559 can't really have him out there because there's no benefit to him being fouled. 444 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:49.039 If he's going to miss the free throws later in the game. But I 445 00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:55.279 still think he provides so much value, particularly from rebounding and being in the 446 00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:57.400 way on the defensive end. But he also has to show that he can 447 00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:03.799 rotate out for defending guys. One thing I noticed was they were having like 448 00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:11.519 guards like Kylan Boswell guarding Nathan Biddle on Oregon rather than just having big on 449 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.519 both bigs trying to guard big men because they see that that's position. I 450 00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:17.599 was going to go there, we have about four and a half minutes, 451 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:19.720 but I want to talk about women's basketball real quick and a little about football. 452 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:25.039 So what would you say is the best lineup that he puts out there 453 00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:32.200 for women's basketball, men's men's This last question of men's men. You know, 454 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:34.759 I don't see him making a change with the starting lineup. No, 455 00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:40.759 I don't think that just he likes Boswell being that initial guy, but that 456 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.680 when when he puts Bradley in, Bradley is the guy who's going to be 457 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.839 leading the point, not so much like someone like Caleb. I think he 458 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:53.240 likes having Caleb be the guy who is off the ball. I went back 459 00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:59.480 like thirty years and Arizona's never had a team that started the same five guys 460 00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.279 the entire season, and so far it's been these five, and I think, 461 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.240 barring an injury, that that's the way it's going to stay. I 462 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.720 think he likes the way that the three bench guys, Crevus and Lewis and 463 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:17.039 Bradley provide their spark in those minutes. I think it may be more a 464 00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.720 matter of how much they play, which is why you saw a couple of 465 00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:25.519 those games with Bradley starting the second half, but Boswell's still getting more minutes. 466 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.160 If anything, they may want to try to cut down on some of 467 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.240 Bollo's minutes and more for Crevius. But in this last game, like Crevis 468 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.039 could not defend in Polly Dante, so Bobo had to be out there. 469 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.640 So in situations like that, they're forced to stick with Bobo. Yeah, 470 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:42.000 that's what do you talk about the starting lamps. I think two thousand and 471 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:45.160 one Gilbert was probably pissed off Lute and said, no, you're not playing 472 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.480 today a couple of a couple of times. In fact, well let's go 473 00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.599 to women's sport. You know, Adia has at an admirable job. I 474 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.039 guess that's my word, at least seven girls and someone else's hurt. Now, 475 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.480 she didn't explain Hayle and Gilbert their best player. Yeah, so what 476 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.839 gives I mean, she's trying to do guess what you can. Yeah, 477 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.880 and without Gilbert it puts them down to seven. And this last game against 478 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:13.400 Stanford, it was really really evident because all three of their front court players 479 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.200 got their third foul in the first half, and you had to have one 480 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:21.880 of them out on the court in order to have five and it was frankly, 481 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.799 if it weren't a blowout, they all would have filed out instead only 482 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:31.279 one of them filed out. But the team is severely limited. They just 483 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:37.920 don't have a lot of options. And it's kind of they could still make 484 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:42.160 the NCAA tournament if they were to pull off a couple of games here and 485 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.440 there and maybe pick up a win or two in the Pac twelve tournament. 486 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:51.319 But I was discussing with our women's writer Kim Doss the other day that it 487 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:55.799 would actually be better for them to make one of the NIT type tournaments for 488 00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.880 women's basketball, because that would probably provide an opportunity to play at home and 489 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:07.559 to get more experience. Because you know, they've they've got several young players 490 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:12.440 on this team, and it should be about thinking towards the future, I 491 00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.400 think at this point, because gosh, the remainder of their games this year, 492 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:22.839 they still have games against I want to say five of their remaining nine 493 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:27.920 games are against ranked teams, and or three of those are on the road. 494 00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:32.119 It's just it's a ridiculously tough schedule, and to expect to do that 495 00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:37.279 with seven or eight people and have it hang up is just not there. 496 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:42.039 Unless we've got one minute left to stock real quick about the movement in u 497 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:47.200 of a football players coming and going. I assume more to come. Yeah, 498 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:51.680 there was a There was another one of the signees from this most recent 499 00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.519 class, Raheem Right, who decommitted today. And I think another one in 500 00:33:54.640 --> 00:34:00.519 an offensive lineman, Justin Hilkama, I think has backing out of his letter 501 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:07.319 as well. I mean that those ones are less surprising because you have no 502 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:12.400 idea if the new coaching staff can gel with these guys that were recruited off 503 00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.400 the on the prep scene, if they never had any contact with them. 504 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.840 I think it's a lot easier to get the guys who were already here to 505 00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:23.519 stick around because they understand the setup and the culture and everything, and that's 506 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:29.280 been very impressive the number of players, not just Noah and Timac who managed 507 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.400 to stay, but just that it was kind of this collective unit and so 508 00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.480 you know, it's set up to where they could still have a very good 509 00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:40.320 season next year, and then twenty five is when it's more of a rebuilding 510 00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:47.119 thing. I still want to see who they add because they've got about fifteen, 511 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.719 if not more, available scholarships right now. So that's the next step 512 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.239 is seeing who they start to add, and then we can get an idea 513 00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.960 of what Brent Brennan and this staff can do as far as how they want 514 00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:00.960 to bring in their own guys. Great, Okay, Brian, thanks a 515 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:05.000 bunch as always appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for having me guys. Great. 516 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.119 Great. You can just search out Azy Desert Swarm right find out the 517 00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:13.000 storm dot com. Uh uh. Bryan Pears and Kim Dass, who has 518 00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.079 covered the women's team always some good stuff, Brian. Brian's a stat geek 519 00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.760 man. He's going back thirty years and getting snats and stuff. It's always 520 00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:23.320 always good stuff. It's nice to have a guy like that around who provides 521 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:27.039 us some materials. I was tweeting that stuff out. Okay, so let's 522 00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:29.519 take a break, yep, and come back and talk. Maybe take us 523 00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:45.039 from calls. Right, there's one man's basketball fan. You know it's been 524 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.960 successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look back at the Ludelsen era. 525 00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:52.400 In my new book, Lessons from Luke. It was a labor of 526 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.119 love through the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches and friends to give 527 00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:59.400 insight to the coach and the man who led them, competed against them, 528 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.679 and inspire them. Twenty five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's beloved 529 00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:07.599 coach. 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If you want to call us five two 563 00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:37.639 zero four one six seventy four forty you'd like to hear from you? Did 564 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.719 you were you surprised that you you saw the Cats win? I think that 565 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.400 according to you know, the Internet and the experts that are out there. 566 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.360 Some were and some were, Yeah, there were. I think there were 567 00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:52.480 more people who were not surprised, yeah, than than surprised. I think. 568 00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.440 I know Arizona fans tend to panic. Yes, when something like that 569 00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:59.960 happens on Thursday night and you lose to a bad team the way they lost. 570 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:02.400 You don't, you're not. You're not. A Facebook you don't. 571 00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:06.079 You don't. You don't. On Twitter, you don't either. You're not. 572 00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.360 I don't comment a lot, like you know, I follow and I 573 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:15.039 read you're a peruiser here. Yeah, but like and sometimes I tweet on 574 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:19.079 r behalf as I did on after the game on on on Saturday. I 575 00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.519 just said I didn't. I said, sometimes college basketball makes no sense. 576 00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:27.960 And what are you talking about? You thought it made all the sense in 577 00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.599 the world perfect to me. No, I didn't see that tweet. But 578 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:32.360 you're not. You're not. You don't go. I don't. I don't 579 00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:36.320 rage. Once in a while, you know, something will set me off, 580 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.559 and I'll I'll say, I'll say something, but yeah, not very 581 00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:42.159 off. Yeah, no to me, to me, I don't get it. 582 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.320 And I said today one of the tweets, because I don't even know 583 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.400 why I read it, maybe just to talk about on the show. But 584 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.960 you know, you have to certain people either they're really good to get the 585 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:58.440 beat and then complain to me, it's a tree in the forest. What 586 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.840 do you who's gonna read? Tell me? Know? Going? What are 587 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:04.280 they talking about? On Facebook? It's like I'm gonna, I'm gonna start 588 00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.960 the bar. It's us, sure, us and the people we know. 589 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:12.400 You know, you you follow somebody because you're interested in what they have to 590 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.920 say right on on on Twitter that you know, I I want to know 591 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:21.119 what Mike Decursi is saying. I want to know what you know Yogi Roth 592 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:24.960 is saying. So we fought those people for our for our Twitter account for 593 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.239 them about Twitter account, we follow those guys cause we get information from those 594 00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:30.360 guys a lot of the you know, they're on our show. When they 595 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:35.519 follow us, we follow them. And but then I have a personal Twitter 596 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:37.960 account that I pick and choose, and it tends to be you know, 597 00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:43.239 friends of mine, and I'm I'm curious into what they're saying. So those 598 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:45.599 are the two things that I pay mo attention to. But you know, 599 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:50.199 I go in and I read this stuff once in a while, somebody will 600 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:53.800 set me off what they do. Also, I'll put something up personally and 601 00:40:53.920 --> 00:41:00.159 say you're full of crap or excellent point, you know when when i'm when 602 00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:02.639 when I'm the one who's generally tweeting on behalf of mine on the ball, 603 00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:08.280 and it's more of a like that, like sometimes it doesn't make any sense, 604 00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:14.239 you know. Or I'll congratulate somebody you know, who's done something great 605 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.840 whatever, But you know, people, you know, I see what and 606 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:23.239 I fight it. I'm not engaged. I get I don't know why. 607 00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:25.440 I get a little anxious, a little like what the hell are you talking 608 00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.599 about? But it's guys who people open the computer and oh, he should 609 00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.960 have passed that ball. Okay, what I mean, Oh he should have 610 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:37.400 shut the ball or he would We all saw it, you know, just 611 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:39.599 because you said it. You know. Well, you know it's the thing 612 00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:44.280 like you know, you see Bruce and you see Brian Peterson, uh, 613 00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.920 Devin Homer, you know our former intern uh, and they're all tweeting a 614 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:52.400 play by play of a game, and I'm like, I'm not sure what 615 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.559 Yeah, no, but I'm talking about that. I'm talking about fans who 616 00:41:55.639 --> 00:42:00.639 were, you know, just watching the game and on Facebook saying oh God, 617 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:02.880 and then this is their this is their main story. Oh these guys 618 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:09.039 are horrible and then they watch a game, and then watch a game enjoy 619 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:13.880 the game. I don't know how guys do that? Why why they do 620 00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:19.400 that? Hi, you're on there and I have the ball. Yeah. 621 00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:23.440 I was sorry to hear yesterday or read yesterday that apparently, uh, Chuck 622 00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:28.039 Cecil is down going to be on the coaching staff. Is that for sure? 623 00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:31.039 Or do you have any ideas what's happened on that? I didn't see 624 00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:35.920 that. It was in the Daily Star, Greg Yeah, Greg Hanson. 625 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:39.440 Yeah. So so this is what my impression was before Sunday, because carry 626 00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:43.639 Cecil had been tweeting and kind of hinting that that was going to be the 627 00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.159 case. I had not heard. I heard that Hunley was going to be 628 00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:51.840 an analyst. He's not going to be on the field, but helping capacity 629 00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:55.199 as an analyst. I'm not surprised about Chuck. I'm not sure why that's 630 00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:00.719 the case, but I'm not surprised. Why are you not surprised? Is 631 00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:06.480 that? Uh? Well, because his own team from San Jose or what's 632 00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.760 going on? Sure? Well, and there's only a number of spots. 633 00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.960 There's only enough spots. I'm not surprised, I will I'm saying that because 634 00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.519 of what Carrie had been tweeting out and and kind of like just the the 635 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:21.159 numbers game. Yeah, it didn't sound like there was a spot for him, 636 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:22.920 correct and pretty much. And you know, a coach is going to 637 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.599 bring who they're comfortable with. Sure, and you know, I mean, 638 00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:30.800 I'm pretty sure Bran Brandon knows of Chuck Cecil No, you know, of 639 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:32.079 course, but it took pictures together. Yeah, but but you know, 640 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:36.519 he's also going to get a coaching staff that he feels, you know, 641 00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:39.440 uh, he's most comfortable with. And yes, was it a great thing 642 00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:45.679 that that uh that Jed Fish uh you know, brought on brought Chuck and 643 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:47.599 Ricky Huntley you know, to his coaching staff. Of course it was. 644 00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:52.280 But Jed with Jed also had a little bit of a different approach and that 645 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:58.679 he was really trying to rebuild the fan base's faith in the program and rebuild 646 00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:01.639 their interest in the program, and and not the Chuck and Ricky aren't good 647 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:07.719 coaches, just that there was the added benefit of them sure being legends here 648 00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:09.840 and uh, and it would get you know, get some uh you know, 649 00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:14.440 uh some cachet or cachet with the fans. That's what I'm trying to 650 00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:19.360 say. Yeah, but beyond that, isn't he one of the best tacklers 651 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.719 ever ever put together? There is Orna or even at the NFL. And 652 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:29.840 what he contributed to Maldonado having a great year. Yes, and yes and 653 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.760 yes, yes, oh that's true. Oh that's true. But apparently it's 654 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:39.519 not gonna happen. You must be heartbroken or something by your tone. Yeah, 655 00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:44.320 yeah, this is freak so to my arm and watching for a long 656 00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:49.039 time. Yeah and uh yeah, Chuck seas old. You know, even 657 00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.280 before that one hundred and sixty yard touchdown against a su was always one of 658 00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.960 my favorites. Yeah, no, I get it. I get it a 659 00:44:55.000 --> 00:45:00.800 little surprising, but but I'm not. I'm sure Gregg's got it on the 660 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.599 surprising. But no, you know, I mean a coach is going to 661 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.639 bring you know, the guy, as we said, the guys that you 662 00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.400 know he's comfortable with, you know, maybe you know from his old coaching 663 00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:13.559 staff and whatnot. You got to remember Jed was building a coaching staff from 664 00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:17.079 scratch. He wasn't coming with the coaching staff that he already had somewhere else 665 00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:21.440 whereas Brent Brannan you know, had a bunch of guys he's been coaching with 666 00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:25.159 for a while, and that that's the big difference. Okay, well, 667 00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:30.920 thank you. By the way. You also said Greg said that him Ricky 668 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:35.320 Huntley was going to be UH player and development or something like that, more 669 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.400 outreach with the U with a former players and so forth. So appairently he's 670 00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:43.960 not coaching, you'll have a role. So yeah, that's that was kind 671 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.960 of jerry for me. I like what Brig Branner has done so far, 672 00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:51.079 but I'm not real happy with that. But you know, I guess I 673 00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:54.119 guess I'll live another day to see what goes on, so real quick, 674 00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:58.880 Frank, You know, Ricky didn't coach much on the field this year either 675 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:04.159 because he he had he had a knee operation. They had a knee replacement 676 00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.000 and and you had some complications with it and really couldn't be out on the 677 00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:10.559 field. That's why Duyne a Keina ended up on the field. They swapped 678 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:15.840 UH and and and Ricky was more on the analysts side, working on you 679 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:19.719 know, UH with with players and whatnot and that's how Dwayne Nakina got on 680 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.360 the field as a coach, so that may be as much to do with 681 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:27.760 Ricky's health as it is anything else. All right, guys, thank you, 682 00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:31.280 all right, thanks Frank good, Yeah, thank you. Yeah. 683 00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:36.239 No, I I you know, somebody asked me that, so not on 684 00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.280 the staff and as well sounds like the the you know, the the on 685 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:44.159 field coaching positions are all full and so but I didn't know you had been 686 00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:45.760 uh uh you know, talking to carry and no, no, no, 687 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.320 I hadn't drunk to her. She's been tweeting that, you know, she's 688 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.400 been tweeting. She's been tweeting talking about nothing specifically that but God only this 689 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:59.039 on our very oh and you can kind of tell what was going on through 690 00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:00.519 those tweets. Look, I know fans would love to have those guys on 691 00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.800 the staff, but the end, you know, as I said, a 692 00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.039 coach has to be coaching with guys who he has a connection with, is 693 00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:12.960 comfortable with. And you know, I you know, there's always there's always 694 00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.119 somebody around that kind of hangs around and stays on the staff all the way 695 00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:23.880 back to when uh what's his name? Ha ha, Mark Luxford, you 696 00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:28.239 know, hung around a couple of staff, you know, to create some 697 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.840 continuity. Sure, uh, you know, but guys in the end, 698 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.599 guys are going to get the guys that you know, they sure make up 699 00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.800 their staff. They feel like they feel good in the room with Yeah, 700 00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:40.719 that's that's what's going on here, right. Okay, anybody else want to 701 00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:44.400 call? We got about five minutes and we appreciate the call. Yeah, 702 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.800 I'm just reading now the retirement blah blah blah. So he's talking about that 703 00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:52.400 yesterday in the notes. Okay, what else is going on? You know, 704 00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.280 it's surprising to me, Gilbert, you said it did not play right? 705 00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.159 She played? Was she dressed on Thursday? But didn't dress dressed on 706 00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:00.840 Thursday? I told I went to the game, Oh yeah, yeah. 707 00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:06.039 My seats was, you know, across the bend, the other side of 708 00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.960 the court from the band. So I saw Kaylen Gilbert didn't start, and 709 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:15.000 and I leaned over to my my daughter Rachel, who is up until December, 710 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:16.199 was working stats with me as well. We looked at each other like, 711 00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:20.559 what's Dalen Gilbert's not starting? What's going on? So then you know 712 00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:22.719 the game is going on, and then she doesn't come in and she doesn't 713 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:24.360 come in, so I'm I'm kind of paying attention to what she was doing 714 00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:28.440 on the bench. You see, is she moping? Is she suspended? 715 00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:31.000 Uh? You know, is she hurt? What's going on? And she 716 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:37.599 kept like turning in her seat like she was turning her like her back, 717 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.920 like she was having a back issue or something. And then she got one 718 00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:44.400 of those bands that has the you know, the you know, the muscles 719 00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:47.000 the muscles stimulator stuff, and she put one of those on. I'm like, 720 00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:52.440 Okay, she's got a back issue. But I guess now they're saying 721 00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:54.599 she might be out for the year, right right, And Idea didn't say 722 00:48:54.679 --> 00:49:00.360 specifically why she was out for whatever reason. I don't know what the deals 723 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:02.119 and since she's hurt or whatever, but it was clearly an issue where she 724 00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:07.760 was, you know, there was a health issue as to why she wasn't 725 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:09.239 playing. She didn't play, and then you know, they played well against 726 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:15.280 Cal and won that game. It was funny at halftime Cal had nine field 727 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:20.440 goals and eight of them are three point If they were only making stuff from 728 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:23.480 the outside, it was weird. They were like one for five on two 729 00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:29.960 point shots and like eight for twelve on three point shots somewhere Staff. But 730 00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:34.800 they you know, they played a nice game on on Thursday, but you 731 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.639 know, or Friday, but you knew Stanford was coming in on Saturday, 732 00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:40.480 and Stanford had their way with them. I think it was like ninety six 733 00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:45.480 sixty four, you know. And and as Brian said, they they do 734 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.760 have a tough They've got ACU coming up. That's part of the doubleheader next 735 00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:53.719 Sunday. But then they got to go to USC and UCLA both rank come 736 00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:58.920 home for Washington State and Washington then they go to Stanford cal usc in the 737 00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:05.400 UCLA's it's it's it's a monstrous they're eleven and ten. They're going to do 738 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:08.480 well to finish above five hundred. If they do finish above five hundred, 739 00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:12.199 you got to say that's about as good as much as you can expect. 740 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:15.159 I don't know if he is used any good this year. No, they're 741 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:19.920 not. They're not there. You will just from not beginning if terrible is 742 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.480 at the bottom, to be not good there and then they're terrible. Yeah, 743 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:29.840 there's the they're above terrible and not good. So I'm looking, do 744 00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:31.440 you love me? Well? What level do I love you? Well? 745 00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:35.440 They're ten and eleven. But they're two and seven and the well Arizone is 746 00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:37.519 only three and six in the conference. So there, Arizona is only a 747 00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:42.760 couple of games better than that, right, Okay, Okay, let's we'll 748 00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.320 see it's a home game, Yeah, home game, okay, doubleheader, 749 00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:46.519 and you know what we need to do. We need to get some of 750 00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:52.079 some of the other sports baseball starting here. For yeah, all the sports 751 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:54.079 are going. Tennis is going, golf, they've got a tournament going to 752 00:50:54.159 --> 00:51:00.800 day. I'm assuming swimming is gonna get going here, quick track, indoor 753 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:05.679 track is going right now, So yeah, there's all the other sports. 754 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:07.920 Get are going, just truck real quick. We're gonna talk some n i 755 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:12.519 L stuff. We've got Ray Wells back in this in the on the show 756 00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.000 talking about you know, does it change, how does the scope change with 757 00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.400 a new coach? Right? And and you know what was their role? 758 00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:22.079 What's been their role in getting getting players to stick around? Right? No? 759 00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:25.159 Good? They had to have had a role, right they're if they're 760 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:30.280 holding some money, Yeah, yeah, I mean they gotta be their Their 761 00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:35.239 job is great n I L opportunities, uh for the athlete. So that 762 00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.400 had to be the topic of conversation, you know, with Jet and Jet 763 00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:40.679 help raise money, right, I'm not sure for N I L, but 764 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.440 for the for the facilities and stuff. Yeah, so, uh yeah, 765 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:47.880 Ray Wells will be coming up at a quarter after. In the meantime, 766 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:52.719 we're gonna breaking news coming up with Kevin, So stick around for all that. 767 00:51:53.480 --> 00:52:00.719 A lot of stuff we're gonna find out, alright, stick around breaking 768 00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:01.840 isner at the top of the hour.