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Welcome into the Nightcap once again on
this Monday evening. We're slowly approaching the

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end of November, which is just
almost impossible for me to believe at this

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point, but time does accelerate,
and I was thinking, you know,

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time doesn't speed up, we just
slow down. And the older we get,

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the faster it seems to go,
which is probably the case. Scary

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Jeff tonight our guest in the Spotlight. It's time for his close up.

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Mister demil our midday guy, Scott
Sloan, part of the American history on

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the radio segments We've been doing here
on the Nightcap for a while, going

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back to last year, and I
thought Sloaney would be great just because you

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couldn't sign anyone else. Okay,
there was that, and then there was

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also the fact that you are a
very I think you're a very complex radio

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personality in many ways. And I
don't mean that from a a derogatory standpoint

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at all. No, No,
it's just I know. That's the thing.

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I asked Sloan one time, why
I never does impressions of Gary.

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Jeff Walking said, because you would
think it was funny you do the impressions

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just to irritate the people. Yes, they get to get more out of

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it that way, more hungry,
I would do it more. So,

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let's go to Scott Sloan's history on
the radio, which goes back to Buffalo,

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New York. Is that where you're
from, Well, I grew up

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there. We actually moved to It
would be the Youngstown Warren area when I

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was in high school. I was
a senior in high school, and yeah,

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I had no idea what I was
gonna do. I had a speech

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teachers I recalled in. We had
like a little mini class in radio,

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and I thought, that's kind of
an interesting thing, kind of back of

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my head. And then as I
sat in high school, I wanted to

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be a draft I wanted to be
an architect like Mike Brady because I had

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the curly, hairy yeah. And
then I realized at some point to be

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gay and married to Florence Sans yes
exactly, with my long tube cardboard tube

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in my hand, and realize at
one point I went, well, let's

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see, you can't really add subtract
multiplying the other one. So you're gonna

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be able to do these math classes
in college? Are your son? And

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no one's gonna be good. Buy
a bridge for me. That's a couple

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of feet short, let's put it
that way. So at some point I

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said, yeah, math is definitely
not my thing. What where can I

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go with with low self esteem,
bad people, skills, horrible uh horrible

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uh self worth and maybe make a
little bit of money but not have to

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do any math and the radio is
a perfect career for you. It sounds

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a lot like really really was now
really had low self esteem? Yeah,

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I think everybody everybody in this business
does. Yeah, so everyone in entertainment

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hates themselves. Yeah, you know
what, there's a little bit of that

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always. I was a kid that
was made fun of and junior high and

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high school and stuff. I didn't
stop a childhood though, you know,

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and which was always gratifying to go
back for like my tenth high school reunion

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when I was a big celebrity in
town and you know, people knew me

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right and I didn't lord it over
them too much. Yeah, you spend

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a lot of time by yourself,
you know, you don't really like yourself

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grown and no even that this is
a no one likes themselves kidding yourself.

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So was there anybody when you were
a kid that you listened to on the

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radio and said, you know what, that's cool. That guy hasn't hasn't

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acted. I'd like to emulate.
I remember my mom and dad listening to

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It would have been w g R
and Buffalo Okay fifty five and they that

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was when you had the big you
know, the old real hardcore DJs and

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stuff like that, and they my
dad always was a huge fan of that

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station. So I listened to that
a little bit influenced there, But it

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wasn't until I was in college at
Bowling Green Bowling Green State University and started

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getting into radio because I didn't know
what I wanted to do. I guess

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I went to was gonna okay,
first of my family go to college.

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But that was the eighties. You
know, you can get it. You

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have a pulse and a number two
pencil. Yeah, you're good, go

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ahead, get it. It's like
a lot more serious now, right,

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So but you got to lose.
So you show up and I'm like,

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I don't know what I want to
do. Maybe I want to look at

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though the syllabus going camera operator.
That sounds like a pretty pretty good career

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for me. Stand and run a
TV camera how hard could that be?

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I don't have to do any math, just stand there and I was like,

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I'm watching any paid to watch a
little TV of people on a bigger

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TV. It's really it's not that
hard. So and I met a buddy

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of mine there at Bowling Green and
he introduced me to he was doing a

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campus show in the summer. Because
I was too dumb to get into like

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fall, I had to start in
the summer to prove that I wasn't as

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dumb as my my transcript set I
was. And so we're doing college right,

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and I'm like this is pretty cool
because they don't see you, and

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like I can just be creative and
do stuff. And then I kind of

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fell in love with it, and
yeah, next thing I know, I

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was like I was all in and
spend so much time of the college is.

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Almost got kicked out of school a
few times because for grades no kidd

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yeah, yeah, terrible. I
hated what I called thirteenth grade, which

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was Volunteer State Community College in Gallaton, Tennessee at WVCP eighty eight point three

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on the dial. And got a
job at a local radio station about a

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mile away, and that was the
end of my college career. I made

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it two semesters. I know a
few people. I knew one girl still

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in radio and Toledo actually and doing
quite well. But she she had I

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think like one class she did was
Toledo your first professional job or yeah?

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Yeah, So went to Bowling Green
did college radio there with people at Lisa

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Brown at the Reds. She was
a classmate a couple other people Scott Stanley

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who dees are creative. You mentioned
guy genius. We I was actually his

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He's two years ahead of me,
so I was his assistant director of production.

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Couldn't learn anybody better than We had
a great time. We just know

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we would just goof on, you
know, stuff and have fun. We

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had a blast. So it's kind
of ironic we all ended up at this

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this huge station, right, So
yeah, that was that was really cool.

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Yeah and then you know, went
to school and uh so how did

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you get how'd you get the pro
job? Well, so it was like

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kind of like Cincinnati Dayton. I
don't know if it's still that way because

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stat and it's at all market,
but like, for example, you know,

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people who would work and go to
school in dat ud had come to

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Cincinnati and you know, work on
the weekends, and so Bowling Green is

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about thirty minutes south at Toledo four
minutes south and you drive up there.

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So I had a roommate who was
doing at one of the hit Hemans the

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stations there. He got me on
the weekends, and then by my junior

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year, I got hired full time
at the number one station to do the

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overnight show, which is midnight to
six and so I don't know how I

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did it my last two years,
but I would do midnight to six am

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and then leave and drive to Bowling
Green forty minutes away and do the college

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morning show with my part and morning
show partner, and then I go to

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class and then I sleep for fifteen
minutes and do it all over again.

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And then I worked a part almost
a full time, part time job of

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the weekend. I don't think I
slept for two years. But I was

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having fun. Now make any money, but you're having a good time.

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And I took less classes and spread
it out, did an extra semester because

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of that, but it was good. It was just that's all I wanted

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to do all the time. Talking
to Scott Sloan on the Nightcap American History

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on the radio and tell you what
this This seems like a good time to

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just take a quick break and come
back in a moment. When we do,

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we'll talk about a little bit about
the Toledo years. There was a

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slight bit of controversy. You did
your homework. Yeah, all we need

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is yeah, a balcony right right, which you know it's surprise you hear

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is the I will I will tell
you about one of my first moments of

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infamy when I got to Cincinnati and
it involved Ak Steele and h then general

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manager Jackie Brumm and her reaction when
we come back Scott's Loan with Us tonight

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on seven hundred w LW. Okay, back into it, part two of

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the Scott Sloan Grilling on the Nightcap
on seven hundred w L like sixty minutes

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all we need, that's right,
Like I'm more attractive, Lovesli Saul.

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If you if you start crying,
I'm going to bring in Sarah Lease.

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So anyway, here here we go. I love the snort so Toledo.

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Yes, I know, I know
exactly what the comment was. I think

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get involved a visit by a certain
civil rights leader into town and uh we

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we don't have to go into it
again. It's been a long time.

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Ago has been long. I don't
think it ever is. I mean,

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honestly, I think so this was
back in the day when Listener told me

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about that, Yeah, we're supposed
to be and it's much different today.

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Just this over top outrageousness, right
because like it's everyone's the shock jockey thing,

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you know, starting with this peak
in a little bit, and it's

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like and especially the company at that
time was really pushing for that, and

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I just started. And but also
I think, you know, when you're

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not to make excuses for saying stupid
stuff, which to this day is still

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embarrassing, and it's it's hurtful and
horrible. If you're on the radio,

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law you're going to it. But
I don't think you can anymore. I

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think if you do stuff that get
you in trouble, it used to be

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like, okay, did you learn
from this? But yeah, that was

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really good radio. And now there's
no room for that anymore. And I

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you know, especially in the Twitter
sphere, you know, somebody tweeted stuff

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out when they're you know, fifteen
years old and they're now thirty seven.

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I don't understand how you go back. I think some of these allegations it's

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very sexual assault for example, very
serious. But I don't know how you

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go back to nineteen ninety three and
from twenty twenty three and go, you

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did this back in nineteen ninety three
and now I'm going to hold you accountabile.

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I think that's totally insane that people
were canceled for things that happened thirty

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forty years ago, right right,
And it's it's disturbing. I think,

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you know, it's like, well, did you grow from that experience?

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In granted there's still you're being victimized. I want to help you heal,

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But in a case of what you
say on the radio, I think at

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some point you're like, okay,
I clearly you're a different person. At

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least you should always grow, I
think, and be a different person than

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we're But yeah, in regardless,
that was literally I think the low point

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of probably my career but also my
life. I think too, because I

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like, well, you know,
what do you want to do with you?

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What do you want to be?
And try to figure that out publicly

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is much different than most people go
through. I think when you're not on

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the public airwaves, So it was
nineteen ninety four. I had been here

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on the air for maybe four or
five months at then ninety two point five,

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which wasn't even the Fox. That
it was the point, the point?

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What's the point? And they never
could answer that question, so it

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became a Fox. So I'm on
the air doing afternoons on the point.

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And music was that Carage. Yeah, that was rock and roll's greatest hits.

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Oh okay, I got you.
Well. They started by playing two

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d and fifty songs in a row
without commercials, push over the top,

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absolutely with the exact opposite of the
stations that flipped to Christmas in July that

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just ad met listen our music,
saw ms, it blows, We're just

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gonna go Christmas music. I hadn't
been here that long in town. And

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there had been a third accidental death
at ak Steel within about a five six

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month span, okay, And I'm
just sitting here observing this. And at

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the same time, doctor Cavorkian had
been on trial for assisted suicide, and

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there'd been a ruling from the Ohio
State Supreme Court that assisted suicide was in

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fact a crime in the state of
Ohio. Yeah, and I said,

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for some reason that still escapes me, other than I just thought it was

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clever. I was wrong that maybe, since the Ohio State Supreme Court has

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spoken about assisted suicide in Ohio,
doctor Kavorkian should take his clients to ak

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Steel and have them fill out job
applications similar to my I am. They

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were getting flooded with all these angry
calls, mostly from AK Steel and Jackie

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Brum who was a general manager.
I don't know if you remember her.

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She was gone by the time you
got here. She calls me in to

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the we were in mount at him. She calls me into this common area

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and we're sitting in these like schoolroom
chairs in the middle of the room without

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a table between us and my boss, Tony, my program director, Tony

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Tolliver's there, and Jackie's there,
and she said, Gary, Jeff,

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exactly tell me what you said.
I go, okay. I told her

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what I said, and she put
her head down, shaking it. But

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I could tell she was hiding her
laughter. Oh boy, yeah, And

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she just looked up with a big
smile on her face. A Gary,

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Jeff, you can't say that.
You need to apologize. And I did,

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and that was the end of it. Though, and that was the

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end of it. Mine was kind
of dragged out because we didn't have any

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leadership up there and like the gentleman
didn't care. He was on vacation and

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this all went down and like it
just turned in this. You know,

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you get protesters showing up and like
I'll go away, and it never goes

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away. You know, you got
to deal with that stuff firsthand, and

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was suspended for a couple you know, joking about the death of a prominent

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civil rights leader. As a white
guy, you couldn't shouldn't do that,

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you should do they are a black
guy. But you know what I'm saying

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is back it was. It was
just a horrible, horrible I think,

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a good learning experience all around,
but definitely changes you. One you wouldn't

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be able to recover from today.
No, no, not at all,

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No one. No, there's no
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but women, he said, yeah, it just doesn't it's just not he

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did. But still it's like it's
just yeah, you know, there want

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to be that. I mean there's
guys in there. There, there's there's

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the Alex Jones things. I don't
know if you do that, how you

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live with yourself. I got to
be able. You know, I really

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admitted I don't like you, don't
like yourself. But does that make yourself

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more likable to anyone, especially yourself? Is it? Do you need to

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really attack people who have lost their
babies? It's just no, it's horrible.

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No, you should's gotta be there's
gotta be some boundaries there if you're

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if you're a thinking, breathing human
being's terrible. That's terrible. But nonetheless,

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I survived probably the last one,
our old Boston buddy, the guy

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that I loved, and it has
nothing. It says nothing about the current

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management here. It just says everything
about this guy. Uh and you knew

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him so well and I think respected
him as much as I did. Daryl

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Parks, he brings you down to
Cincinnati, right, Yeah, he was

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the guy who heard that and said, well, when they fire you there,

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and at this time, I would
love to That's why I loved Daryl's

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because no one in Toledo was talking
to me. Oh you were like co

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workers, bar like I'm gonna get
no communication here, and uh, you

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know you start, oh my god, and Darrel's like, hey, when

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you get fired. The funny story
about this, Garay, Jef. We

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have time, Yeah, we have
time, Okay, plenty of time.

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That was not my first attempt at
getting hired at seven hundred WW back in

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decades ago. The first came when
then Tony Bender, who's still with us,

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was working as our assistant. So
after all this went down, they

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brought him up to kind of take
control of the things, saying, you,

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guys, there's no control up here. There's no So he came up

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there and we got to be you
know, coworkers and friends and said,

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hey, I got to get you
down in Cincinnati maybe do some fillings on

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fifty five KRC back when it was
live and local back then too. Anybody

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came down and filled in, and
then they invited me back to like,

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well, why do you come down
and fill in on LW DUR. And

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this was a time when I think
McConnell was doing like a ten hour show

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from what was it like nine am
to three? It was ridiculous when he

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was working, and so he came
and did it on our audition for a

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couple of days. Very forgettable,
I'm sure. So I came down and

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did that whole thing. Well,
I get a call at the time,

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Bill Cunningham was the big boss.
He was the director of programming operation,

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which if mL Willie, you go, that's just a bad idea to show

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you how stupid radio people are.
Manage and the whole operation is just it's

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you stupid. We are the bottom. We're the carp of of any industry

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you look at. Well, at
least I'm not in radio because we're stupid.

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Right, So you go, well, we've got a fifty thousand number

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one raders, big radio stition.
Who are gonna put in charge Bill Cunningham.

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I wouldn't putting Bill Cunningham in charge
of a glass of water in the

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middle of the Ohio River. Oh
you're being you're being uncut. I'm being

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kind of so anyway, well will
he probably agree with you? So Willy

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He calls me the audition. My
audition goes, I do it. Come

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on, I got off the aarrow. Come in the office, Come and

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have a seat in the square circle. Scotslong, come in the office.

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All right, I don't know this
guy, right, I kind of knew

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Gary Burbank because I took over the
show when after syndication Delenn and I actually

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took over for Gary. Up there
and so I'll sit down on here.

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Well, what do you see happening
in your life? If anything in the

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next three years career wise, I'm
like, well, i'd like, hold

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on a second, there's seg Man
seg Man. Hold on a seg Man's

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here, seg Man seg Man ken. So he goes runs down the home

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like that's kinda He comes back and
he goes, oh, not where were

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we? Uh, let's talk about
you and and maybe you're a bright future

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at seven hundred w ol W the
nation station. Go ahead, tell me

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more about yourself. Well, hold
on a second, there's food. Food

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is here food? Hold on,
do you need some food? You need

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chicken? What am I Ron's roost? What about a bee stick? And

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he goes takes off again, and
I start looking around this office. I'm

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like, there's got to be a
camera in here. I'm good, this

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is no one. There's no way
this huge successful. I'm like, yeah,

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I'm looking at this before catfish and
all the jackass. I'm like,

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I'm getting punked here. So I'm
sitting there. I'm sitting there and find

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I'm just I just leave. Drive
back to the Lado. A few days

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later, I get a phone call
Scott Sloan, the great American Bill Cunningham

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here, Yeah, way, we'd
like to offer you a job down here

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in Cincinnati. Yeah, I'm gonna
pass. Is that what you told him?

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Yeah? Oh eh, but it's
wl W. I was like,

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yeah, but I'm thinking to myself, I didn't I think, yeah,

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it's WW but you're in charge.
No good's gonna come to me coming down

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there, I get fired again.
I don't need that. I got a

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baby, like yeah, my wife's
Michelle at the time, was a TV

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news director, and she renewed her
contract, like I think we're going to

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stay pot. You could tell he
was so totally offended about this whole thing.

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Then it was later as Dell Parks
is like, all right, why

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do you do some weekend filling?
Staid, why do you come to Okay?

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Well, why don't we're gonna hire
you? And that was the long

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story short that Willie tried to hire
me and I turned I turned away.

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Well, you initially were doing this
shift, the nine to midnight shift,

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right, yes, and it's kind
of weird to be back. Actually,

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it's far more fat. Ain't no
night. You got more room to goof

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around and do stuff than you do. I've got you got a room,

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you got time to talk to me. I know it was bad, Geary,

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Jeff and I was this bad.
So at the time, for two

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years I did a show from Toledo, my three to six show at WSPD

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and Toledo, and then did nine
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had like three hours off between shows. And that was before you know the

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technology we have now too, and
it was all digital. I mean you

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couldn't tell, but yeah, you'd
have to go in the studio. There's

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no doing it from home like we
did during COVID in that so, yeah,

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it was two years. There was
a lot of work doing two shows,

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but try to keep them separate.
The impression thing you do these great

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video caricatures of people. You have
you always done that? I always have,

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Yeah, always had, Like certainly
not the best person, but you

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listen to Jamie Fox or somebody going, my god, that guy's so good,

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Jimmy Fallon, whoever, No,
you've got Yeah, it's it's but

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it's also Lampoon. I said,
you know, I heard people do voices

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and like, okay, someone doing
you know, Richard Nixon's voiced. It

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I'm like, yeah, once that
person's out of the limelight, it feels

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like because I used to do really
good Andy Furman. And then when Furman

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got canned, I'm like, I'm
not doing that voice. And he is

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on this show once a week.
Now he's on on Tuesday Night. I

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know I'm here. I should I
should have been the voice back. I

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should talk like this walk my own. So have you had last look at

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the writings Honey to be on,
Honey to be on? Yes, there

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are people who don't appreciate ate your
talent at this girl in this building.

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I'm sure they don't. That's why
I do the voice mak Andy Freman was

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the best. I mean, I
love working with. And it wasn't it

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Randy Fermo. It was his level
of paranoia that would get him going.

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Was so funny and you could get
stirred up. You could tell him I'm

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just playing with you. He would
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got a funny Furman story about paranoia, okay, and Andy and his insecurity.

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I was here on a weekend,
filling in for somebody or doing something,

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and I was waiting in a room
to do an interview and Andy came

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in because he was just cooling his
heels before he did a fill in on

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one of the sports. It was
thirteen sixty or something. Sure, I

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said, Andy, what's going on. I'm nervous. I'm very nervous.

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I'm nervous. I said, why
are you nervous? So I've got to

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do this national show in a minute, and I don't know if I got

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all the right And he's doing all
that, you know, the the covetching

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that he does so well. And
I said, Andy, you have absolutely

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no reason to be nervous about being
on the radio. You've been on the

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radio for what a twenty years?
Decades? Yeah, decades. What's but

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before he goes on, that was
his modus operande. He had to always

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up by being nervous. Yah,
just nervous about about everything. And once

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then the thing is like, we're
like shark infested waters here at al w

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We eat our own when it's slow, and so if you show weakness,

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we'll explode, We'll we'll we'll just
pick up that scab NonStop. I remember

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Andy one time said something on the
radio, help but don't get in trouble

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with that de listen. I don't
know and back in the day the end

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of the old phones, where he'd
pushed the button and the light would light

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up. You know, I'm talking
about the bottom. So he gets on

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the air and uh, I the
hotline is the magic number of people call

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a secret secret number here. So
I would hit the button like on and

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off, like it was flashing,
like it was ringing, And I picked

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up one time, and who hold
the hotline? I think it was Darrely

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wants to talk to you when your
show's over. Oh my god, I'll

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get the fight. I'm to get
fired. That's it right there. And

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then you know, was he gonna
call back? I'm like, yeah,

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he was calling for you somewhere,
but he heard he wanted to call.

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He'll call back, man. So
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and I'm and then he starts talking
again after the commercial break, after news

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comes back, and I start hitting
that line again, and all I do

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and watching him, and I'm watching
he's trying to talk, and I'm watching

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his eyes keep looking at the phone
to light up. And the minute he

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stopped talking, I'd stopped doing it. Who is it? It was Darrel

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again? Why keep calling meself?
In fact, he was so worked up

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that I had to tell Andy,
I'm just effing with you. But in

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his mind he didn't even hear that. No, so he actually called him.

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He's like, I was like,
what what are you talking about?

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I had told him that I was
punking him, and he's still he's that

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apparently two words, seg Dennison.
One quick story from Andy Firman. Yeah,

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because I had one other thing Randy
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turned to this whole thing one point, speaking of things you can't do anymore.

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It was I think the second or
third opening at the new Ballpark after

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and back then, you know,
we do the live shows and Andy be

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there, and so I dressed up
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You know, now you can't get
away with that. I had the

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whole thing with Furman nine on the
whole thing, and I came out and

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kind of took over the broadcast doing
Randy Ferman and screaming at Andy and having

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a fight in this whole thing,
and people are rolling over. All of

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a sudden, I turned around securities
there and they were going to escort me

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out because you're not allowed to wear
a mask. Or costume. So at

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the time I'm screaming about and Carl
Linder owned the team. I'm like about

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him being an anti Semite, which
is funny because he's Jewish, and this

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is I mean, it's opening day. People are like, I don't know

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what's going on and and he's like
mortified. Everyone's just half the people are

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confused, the other half are laughing
whatever. But that whole thing started with

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Randy Furrman was I was doing an
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It's you know you do and I
get the calls like, who is so

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and so can't do the pregame show? Can you do it? I'm like,

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yeah, sure, why not?
So I did it as Randy Furman.

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So I teased that Andy's brother Randy
is to having an audition. He's

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coming in and I think they're playing
the Giants or something, and I started

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talking about belly bombs, and I
thought people would kind of get in the

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bit. Everyone thought it was actually
his brother, and so we didn't know

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what to do with the character at
that point, thinking that it was Andy's

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brother Randy and people thought he was
actually his brother. So that's where that

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whole thing started. So uh take
us out as Seg Dennis. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. Well you know
when you when you talk with listen gee,

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when you talk like this, uh, you know, you know,

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you're just dying to be made fun
of. I got one job that's too

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U you know, to let me
see you. You've gotta you gotta you

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gotta talk on the radio and be
a you be a concise and and uh

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are you informed? And it's unbelievable
because Willie said and and then thank you.

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All I can all I can say
is Keith Richard cockroachese Dennison. That's

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about all the changes we've seen,
the changes I've seen in almost thirty years

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here, the people who have come
and gone. And to bring it full

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circle, garayt Jeff my Ears is
still here. There's no question about it.

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He always will be here as a
fixer's the station simply because back to

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my initial point that radio people are
stupid. Wait wait a minute. Your

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job is to get the score,
sports scores right and be able to formulate

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a sentence. He can do neither, and has a job for life and

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is beloved, beloved, And I
love Seg. I do too, and

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he hates me because you dank you
when you take your will you or something,

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when you take your Gary Sullivan fiction
houses, big mouth, don't be

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a cloud. So are are you
still doing your uh, your handyman stuff.

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Yeah, I just we own a
bunch of rentals and properties are doing

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most of that. My son now, he's in the business. He's a

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real estate ambassador too, so he's
got his license. He's work god it

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is, you know. And just
see him coming to his own He loves

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doing it too, so yeah,
that keeps him busy. That's a job

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you have to love to do.
Yeah. Yeah, it's getting older though,

413
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it's getting more taxing, and it's
passing more off to him when he

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gets the My water heater doesn't work. My thermostad's broken at four in the

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morning on Thanksgiving Day. Yeah,
that's him, not me anymore. And

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they always breaking, of course,
not the coldest day of the year.

417
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The furnace will break down is the
hottest day of the summer. I did

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I did you turn it on?
Wait? What drove over here to flip

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this? This has been even more
fun than I thought. Thanks thanks for

420
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having me us. It's really cool
being back here at night, and I'm

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00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:49.799
having flashbacks already, so all right. By the way, I'm not interviewing

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Mark Amazon. Yeah it was left
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That's checked that box too. What's
the what's the backup traffic Gye doing?

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Is he the wasn't he able to
come in tonight? I don't think Jason

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Aaron talked everyone. Yes, well, I guess I gotta do slide.

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I do have to interview Chuck Ingram
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was my first producer on Saturday Morning
when I started in nineteen ninety seven.

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Chuck was the first guy I met
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be nice. He's the nicest boos
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Scott two of the nicest people ever
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f you from Jim Scott once Good's
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Kevin, American history on the radio
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We know what Trucker's time is,
money and guest. She is a repeat

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guest on this program. But it's
been quite a while and it was more

469
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than due time to have Kathy Barnett
back with us the grassroots director advisor to

470
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the Vivik Ramaswami twenty twenty four presidential
campaign. She's a veteran, a former

471
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adjunct professor of corporate finance, a
wife, proud mother of two. She's

472
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a homeschool in Mama bear. And
you may famously remember Kathy Barnett as the

473
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candidate for the US Senate seat in
Pennsylvania where she did everything but win,

474
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wound uping us to against incredible odds
and against all of the money that the

475
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Democrats threw at that race in Pa. And just glad to have you back,

476
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:51.119
Kathy Barnett. How are you?
I am doing well. Thank you

477
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:53.599
so much for having me. Yeah, absolutely, holiday's good. Did you

478
00:30:53.759 --> 00:31:00.400
enjoy Thanksgiving, absolutely good with family
and just the you know, learning to

479
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:06.720
appreciate those who are in front of
me. So very great. Kathy's also

480
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.319
the author of a book Nothing to
Lose, Everything to Gain being Black and

481
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:17.680
conservative in America, which is I
think that that's kind of kind of starting

482
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:22.200
to turn around in the black community
in this country and minority communities in general.

483
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.880
Kathy, what is your sense do
you get to read that the black

484
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:32.880
community in America is ready to finally
understand that the Democrat Party has not had

485
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:38.000
their best interest at heart for over
a century. Well, it depends,

486
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:44.119
right if you're talking about black men. Yes, I absolutely believe black men

487
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.960
are waking up to the reality that
they have been sold a bill of goods,

488
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:56.319
that they are at the bottom of
every single metric that measures anything positive

489
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:01.559
and wholesome in our country. And
when I ran for US Senate, and

490
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:06.720
specifically when I ran for the very
first time for US Congress, you know

491
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.720
that was in twenty twenty Black Lives
Matter riots said rallies were being held all

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over the place, and they would
not invite me to come and speak at

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00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:19.720
their rallies. I'm black. I'm
the first black person to have ran for

494
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.880
Congress, but I wasn't the right
kind of black person, right because I

495
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:28.400
don't think the way someone tells me
to. But nevertheless, I just started

496
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:32.400
showing up at these Black Lives Matter
rallies with my team and our video camera,

497
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:37.000
walk up on stage and just start
talking to people. And it was

498
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:42.200
black men who were the loudest and
applause because they get it. And my

499
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:46.240
warning to the black community during that
time is to make sure that when all

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00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:53.160
the rioting is done and predominantly white
liberals had gotten what they wanted out of

501
00:32:53.279 --> 00:33:00.319
that particular time period, that black
people themselves weren't left with a broken windows,

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but to actually have something positive to
come out of that. That did

503
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.839
not happen out of the Black Lives
Matter rallys riot. But I do believe

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00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:16.160
that black men specifically are waking up
to the reality of who the Democrat Party

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00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:22.119
actually is. So there should have
been a huge asterisk behind anything that said

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00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.920
BLM, because, like you said, only certain black lives matter. If

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you agree with us ideology ideologically,
or if you're a Marxist, or if

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00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:36.720
you're a member of the trans community, then absolutely your life matters. But

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00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:42.240
if you're a conservative black woman who's
a heterosexual, then your life doesn't matter.

510
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:45.440
Is that basically the message you got
from all of that. Yeah,

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I mean, listen, it had
Black Lives Matter had nothing to do with

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black people, had nothing to do
with again the reality that you look at

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any kind of metric measuring something positive
in hosts on black people at the bottom

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of that list, had nothing to
do with something that was real, something

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00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.519
that was tangible. It was all
I mean, essentially, the three or

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00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:13.719
four black women we saw, they
were just black faces for Black Lives Matter,

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But it was actually owned and operated
we have come to learn over the

518
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:22.960
years by predominantly white liberals, and
whether we're talking about the color of my

519
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:29.119
skin or talking about the gender or
sexuality, all of these things are actually

520
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:35.719
nothing more than tools in the hands
of those who want to use it for

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00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.840
power, for control, and it
has been very effective. So, whether

522
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:43.920
you're talking about the color of my
skin as a black black as a black

523
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.519
person, whether you're talking about my
gender as a woman, whether you're talking

524
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:52.079
about someone else's sexuality, whether they're
pan or heterosexual, sexual or not not,

525
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:58.519
heterosexual, homosexual, trands, whatever
it is, it is nothing more

526
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.760
than tools in the hands of those
who sit high, look low and want

527
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.119
to be able to use something to
garner more power into their corner. As

528
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:13.480
I tell people as I'm out here
on the ground with the bay Rama family

529
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:17.679
presidential campaign, is that I mean, this isn't a battle between Democrats or

530
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:22.400
Republicans, or even black versus white, or day versus straight. It is

531
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:28.000
truly a battle between those who sit
high and look low and then the rest

532
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.880
of us. And once you begin
to understand what's really happening, you begin

533
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:37.920
to see that very clearly, and
our desire to make sure people understand they

534
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:42.880
have a better option. Kathy Barnett, did thevate come to you or did

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00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:49.920
you go to him? But they
actually we met on Twitter. We met

536
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:53.920
in the DM of my Twitter,
of our Twitter spaces, and he actually

537
00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:00.920
saw me when I was one of
my first national debates against doctor and several

538
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:05.800
others when I ran last year in
Pennsylvania. So he liked me first.

539
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.480
I saw that he liked me DM
and said we need to talk. He

540
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:13.599
sent over his telephone number and the
rest of history. So I have walked

541
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:19.360
alongside him and his family for well
over a year now, and I could

542
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:25.000
not be more excited that our country
has a better option. I think Donald

543
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:30.559
Trump has done as much as he
is going to do. I think the

544
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:34.320
best we can hope for for Donald
Trump is that the Baker has said on

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00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:38.119
day one he will pardon him from
all charges. But you know, Levec

546
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:43.719
has been very clear that Trump is
the best president he has ever lived under.

547
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.559
I mean, I'm the Trumpiest of
Trumper's. I believe Donald Trump is

548
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:52.599
the best president I've ever lived under
as an adult. And yet I believe

549
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.400
again he has taken the ball as
far as he can take it. I

550
00:36:55.559 --> 00:37:00.000
think if we are not being emotional, and we are thinking about what is

551
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:05.880
best for our country, giving our
loyalty to our God, our family,

552
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:09.840
and our country, and not to
an individual person, then it becomes very

553
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:15.079
clear of the time that we're living
in and the reality that we have actually

554
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:20.639
lost a lot of our country,
and only God knows that we'll ever be

555
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:24.079
able to get that portion back.
But in the meantime, we have this

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00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:30.119
one opportunity, we believe, to
actually get someone in office who will represent

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00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:35.920
our value, do the right thing, have the ability to bring alongside a

558
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:39.199
good chunk of the rest of the
voters in this country and it starts the

559
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:45.119
process of taking our country back from
these communists again. Talking to grassroots director

560
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:51.800
and advisor to the vivek Ris Ramaswami
twenty twenty four presidential campaign Kathy Barnett on

561
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:59.880
the Nightcap, Kathy, how do
you convince the forty percent of Republicans that's

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00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:07.679
seemingly across the board in the early
primary states and elsewhere that they should vote

563
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:15.840
for vivek instead of Donald Trump and
well and give Aveke the nomination ultimately?

564
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:21.719
How do you convince those people?
As you mentioned, it's a very emotional

565
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.480
connection that people have to Donald Trump, and you mentioned all of the wonderful

566
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:30.760
things that forty five did in office. And I have been a big supporter.

567
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:35.679
I voted for Donald Trump twice and
would more than likely vote for Donald

568
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:39.280
Trump a third time. How do
you convince us who are really emotionally invested

569
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:45.159
in Donald Trump that he's done as
much as he possibly can, He's moved

570
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:47.719
the ball forward as much as he
will be able to do, and that

571
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.960
somebody else needs to finish that job
to kind of steal from the Biden campaign.

572
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:57.480
Yeah, you know, I mean, it's one of the things that

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00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:01.440
I it's exactly what I did in
my own came running for US Senate last

574
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:06.880
year in the state of Pennsylvania against
doctor Oz and several others. His help

575
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:08.519
is. I mean, the people
who came out and voted for me,

576
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:14.360
they are maga. I'm ultra maga, right, And as I explained to

577
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:19.039
people, I mean I was mega
long before Donald Trump came on the scene.

578
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.559
I did not shift my values to
align with Donald Trump. It was

579
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:28.760
Donald Trump who began to move and
shift his value to align with us.

580
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:32.320
And as long as he was aligned
with us and his policies were and I

581
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:37.679
believe he was going to get those
things done, then of course we aligned

582
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.679
with him. But he is not
Jesus Christ. So my loyalty is not

583
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:45.719
to him. My loyalty is to
my God, to my family, and

584
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:51.440
to my country. And I believe
we have this opportunity. These people are

585
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.960
not playing with us. They have
made it very clear now. What they're

586
00:39:55.079 --> 00:40:00.039
doing to number forty five is anathema. I hate. I can't stand it.

587
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.320
It is wrong. And if they
do it to him, which they

588
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.599
are, they will do it to
the rest of us as well. So

589
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.920
we should be very mindful about that. And yet at the same time,

590
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.800
we need someone well, but they
just said he intends to do shut down

591
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:20.920
the Department of Education, shut down
the FBI, shut down the IRS,

592
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:27.440
but our military on our border,
that is going in order for someone to

593
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:31.280
do that that comes then who wins
will have to be able to win by

594
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:37.239
a very large majority. And unless
you're able to get a large number of

595
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:42.440
people to vote for an individual to
be presidents, we're not going to get

596
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:46.519
the things done that we actually need
to get done to give our country back

597
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:51.599
to the people. How else do
you get how do you get Nikki Haley

598
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:53.400
and Ron de Santas out of the
way. Do you think the voters will

599
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:58.480
hander that for you, Well,
they will have to, right. Listen,

600
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:02.639
We're not begging for What we are
doing is putting our best foot forward.

601
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:07.199
We're presenting to the American people what
I believe to be a better option.

602
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:12.400
And ultimately it's going to take the
voters to get out of their emotions,

603
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:17.199
put on our thinking caps and walk
into that voting group remembering what has

604
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:21.679
happened to us over the past three
years. I mean, God help us.

605
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:27.320
I don't know what more these people
need to do to us before we

606
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:31.920
figure it out that they are not
playing and we have this one shot to

607
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:37.559
get our country back. And so
what we're doing is positioning ourselves to be

608
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:43.000
standing. It starts on January fifteenth
in Iowa our goal is and then it

609
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.280
moves very quickly to Ohio and the
rest of the nation. Our goal is

610
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:52.960
to make sure we are standing there
and hopefully people will recognize that we are

611
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:58.039
their best chance. So that's what
we're doing. It's very telling to me

612
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:02.320
that last week, or maybe the
week before, Donna Brazil, the same

613
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:12.119
quote unquote journalist that gave Hillary Clinton
Clinton debate questions in twenty sixteen over other

614
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:19.679
Democrat opponents, Yeah, went full
on racist on viveig Ramaswami, telling him

615
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.639
to go back home. What exactly
did she mean by that, Kathy?

616
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:29.280
I guess she meant to go back
to Ohio because that's where he sat that

617
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.559
in hold, right. But because
these people, again, like I said

618
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:37.360
before, this has nothing to do
with some betterment of you know, black

619
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:44.440
people or minorities. They use all
of these things because they think we're stupid

620
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:47.119
and emotional, so they use it
when it benefits them. Can you do

621
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:53.199
you remember when people were just saying
the Rocky stain Obama's full name, and

622
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:59.960
the left went bizark, labeling us
in Islamic phobc if we just said,

623
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.280
and who own name? A name
that he gave himself a rock who's saying

624
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.159
Obama? People lost their minds.
But now we see that, you know,

625
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:10.079
she wants to pretend she can't say
his name. I find it to

626
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:15.159
be very despicable. But I don't
agree with Bill Laher on much at all.

627
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:19.920
But I have to give him a
kudos for calling it what it is.

628
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.800
It sounds a little racist, because
can you imagine if a white man

629
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:27.440
says it down a brazil who's a
black woman, go back to where you

630
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:31.440
came from, Kua Kinte. No, you can't imagine someone saying that to

631
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.599
her as a white man, because
you know you would be fired before the

632
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:40.800
next commercial break. And yet what
we saw is that racism is ugly,

633
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.400
regardless of the skin color who's doing
it. I don't care if you're a

634
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:47.519
white person, being racist is ugly. I don't care if you're a black

635
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.679
person being racist. It's ugly.
It's equally ugly, and we should have

636
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:58.440
zero tolerance for it and stop allowing
these people to use these labels when it's

637
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:02.800
convenient for them and when they want
to shift the narrative. Well, it's

638
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:08.800
also that you're right. It is
ugly wherever it occurs. Whoever utters these

639
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:14.159
kinds of slurs, it's ugly,
period, end of story. And it

640
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:19.599
breaks apart that thread that says,
if you have black or brown skin,

641
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.480
you can't be racist. If you're
a Democrat, you can't be racist,

642
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:27.440
which, by the way, is
one of the most racist parties political parties

643
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.960
ever conceived, whether they're in the
world. If you look at how the

644
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:36.960
Democrats have behaved through the entire history
of this country, Oh, they are

645
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.280
despicable. You're absolutely correct. And
I am a black woman grew up in

646
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:45.840
the very deep south of Alabama.
I have the blood of slaves forking through

647
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:50.119
my own veins, and I stand
here to say that the Democrat Party,

648
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.519
they're some of the most racist people. There's no one more racist on this

649
00:44:54.719 --> 00:45:01.280
planet than a white liberal woman.
And so that is the reality. If

650
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:06.519
Joe Biden is too old and too
corrupt to remain to be our president,

651
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:12.360
which I believe both things are obviously
true. And say Donald Trump maybe is

652
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.119
a little bit up there, and
people want to change. Is vi vaik

653
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:22.559
Ramaswami too young to be president?
Well, right now the average age in

654
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:27.800
the Senate is hovering around seventy years
old. And I ask the people,

655
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:32.239
what have all that old age you'd
gotten us? It'd gotten us where?

656
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:37.960
I mean literally I went to I
took sing that same Thanksgiving dinner every single

657
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:43.639
year from Spratt last year when I
went to purchase the ingredient and was roughly

658
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.440
three hundred dollars. This year,
literally it was six hundred and sixty Yeah,

659
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:52.159
dollars twice as well, more than
what has So what has all that

660
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:59.400
old age gotten us? Now we're
about to walk into about to sleep walk

661
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:02.800
our way into World War three?
So again, get out of your emotions.

662
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.320
So just on, I think we
need I think this is a moment

663
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:12.840
where we meet someone brilliant. It's
certainly that, yeah, And we need

664
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.400
people who are not just fitballing,
who's not just shining off nineteen eighty two

665
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:22.840
Ronald Rigging quote. We're in a
different century with new century type problems,

666
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:29.119
and so we meet someone who is
intelligent, who's brilliant, who doesn't just

667
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:34.239
know how to read off a teleprocess, who hasn't spent their entire career in

668
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.599
polistics, really an outsider. I'm
sorry, I'm running out of time.

669
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.639
Kathy Barnett. Do you want to
do you want to give a website?

670
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:45.480
Real quick? Yeah, I'm just
saying, go to Twitter, follow what

671
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.199
the base is doing. Vas in
victory, I v as in victory EK

672
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:52.840
put that in. You'll find him
out there on Twitter or go to Thebeate

673
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.239
twenty twenty four dot com. All
right, thank you, Kathy Barnett.

674
00:46:55.360 --> 00:47:02.559
Hopefully we'll talk again before before this
all unravels or comes together. Kathy Barnett,

675
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:10.320
grassroots director of the Vake Ramaswami presidential
campaign. On the Nightcap, your

676
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:19.159
childcare fell through and suddenly you need
money for a babysitter. But how what's

677
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:23.719
good? Nightcap? On seven hundred
WLW. As we get into this hour,

678
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:31.960
we talked to our it guy from
intrust It, a guy that's our

679
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:37.800
go to every time for anything of
the Internet, World of Things and tech

680
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:40.559
talk. Dave Hatter joins us for
a few minutes this evening. Dave,

681
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.840
how are you? How was your
holiday? I'm good, Jared, Jeff,

682
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:47.199
it was good for me, you
know, family came over to the

683
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:51.920
house, ate too much. It
was good. How about you? Well,

684
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.440
I took an entire Turkey and Thanksgiving
dinner down to the bar for what

685
00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:01.320
appears to be the last time on
Thanksgiving Day and fed about twenty five twenty

686
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:05.719
or twenty five people. We had
a great time. People very appreciative,

687
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:10.920
which almost makes all the work worth
it. But it's just a logistical nightmare,

688
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:15.679
cooking it at home, bringing it
down, setting it up, and

689
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:20.039
then having to You know, it's
one thing if you're just going from your

690
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:24.079
kitchen to your front room or your
dining room and serving people, but when

691
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:30.800
you load it into cars and take
it even a mile from the house and

692
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:35.800
then set it up again and then
serve, and then have to take it

693
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:38.480
all down and clean up one area
and then go back home. And the

694
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:43.480
next we took Friday off from the
bar. We usually work a shift on

695
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:47.079
Friday too, and we took Friday
off just so we could stay at home

696
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:52.639
and do dishes. It was pretty
intense, and I can believe that with

697
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:54.480
that many people, that would take
a lot of work. So I wanted

698
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:59.519
to talk to you about this thing
that I was reminded of the other night.

699
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:05.559
I think it was a Gutfeld rerun
from earlier in the month about Elon

700
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:16.159
Musk seeking and getting FDA appal approval
for human trials of implanting a chip in

701
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:22.559
people's in human beings brains that's connected
to the Internet, and it's under the

702
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:29.760
guys under the guise of, well, this is going to be so beneficial

703
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:35.599
to people who have neurological issues,
paralysis, whatever, or have problems with

704
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:39.800
their brain. This could fix their
brain. And I saw all kinds of

705
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:45.400
horrid possibilities out of this. Did
you as well see the story and did

706
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.599
you feel the same way I did? Yeah, this is a story I

707
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:52.519
followed off and on for some time. So that the product is called neuralink.

708
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.360
Something must have been involved in for
some time. And there are other

709
00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:00.880
companies out there working on similar kinds
of technology, but obviously must gets a

710
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.599
lot of attention, and this particular
product who has been in and out of

711
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.239
the news over the past three or
four years numerous times. And as I'm

712
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:10.480
sure you can guess, Gary Jeff, because you know me pretty well,

713
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:15.599
Yeah, I think this is a
terrible idea. Now, I fully understand

714
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:20.119
that up to this point it's primarily
been promoted as a medical device to help

715
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:24.320
people with various neurological diseases, blindness, things like that, and I certainly

716
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:28.000
could see, you know, if
it does what it's supposed to do,

717
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:30.480
that you know, maybe it would
help those folks out. So I get

718
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:35.599
that aspect of it. And apparently
it has been tested in monkeys, you

719
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.719
know, uses bluetooth to talk to
other computers and so forth. So it's

720
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:44.000
it's some pretty wild technology, you
know. I've seen some things where they're

721
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:46.519
looking for people to test this,
and I'm not gonna not gonna have anyone

722
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:50.440
drive them into my skull and putting
the chip in anytime scene. I can

723
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:53.199
tell you that for sure. But
as far tested as I know, what

724
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:57.079
I'm going to say next is going
to sound the people just think about this

725
00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:01.440
for a seconds, as anyone.
So far as we know, in the

726
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:07.280
last fifty or fifty years, the
computers have been a prominent part of society.

727
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.639
Come up with a system that is
unhackable and the answer is no.

728
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:15.320
And in fact, I would argue
the problem of hacking keeps getting worse because

729
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:21.920
all of this technology relies on things
that were designed ten twenty fifty years ago

730
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.360
with security was not really a concern. And then secondarily, when you look

731
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:30.159
at things like quantum computing and the
fact that computers keep getting more and more

732
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:36.639
powerful, the idea of something that
is unhackable and my opinion, just keeps

733
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.760
getting further and further away. Imagine, then, for a second, you

734
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:45.159
have a chip in your brain.
Certainly it can read your brain, otherwise

735
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:50.199
it wouldn't be able to do anything
useful, right, and then can it

736
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:54.280
right back to your brain? Well, I'm going to say it almost would

737
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:58.159
have to be able to do that
again, to do anything useful, because

738
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:00.000
if all it can do, that
would be one thing. If you had

739
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:04.760
some kind of neurological disease where you
couldn't talk or something, and this would

740
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:07.280
give you a way to talk to
people. But in order to deal with

741
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.280
now not a scientist Gara jet or
a doctor for that matter, but in

742
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.920
order for it to be able to
help you with things like paralysis, wouldn't

743
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:21.639
it by design have to be able
to talk to your brain slash body in

744
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:24.840
a way that will allow your nerves
to work when they didn't before. And

745
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:30.199
if that were the case, then
not only could potentially your mind be read

746
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:35.880
at a distance by anyone who had
access to this, but you could potentially

747
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:40.239
be reprogrammed to do something by this
chip. So yeah, in my mind,

748
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:45.360
this is totally insane, and there
was absolutely no chance I would have

749
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:50.719
something like this well, I mean
zero. It's like we've always talked about

750
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:57.320
just internet connected things in your house, from a maybe a room BA to

751
00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:01.559
an electric coffin maker to the ring
doorbell that's connected to the net. Now

752
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:07.000
you're going to actually not only put
this stuff inside your house where you live,

753
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.000
where your family lives, You're going
to put it inside your body,

754
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:15.880
inside your brain. No way,
know how mister Yeah, couldn't agree more.

755
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:17.719
Gary jeff Ian, Yeah, We've
talked a lot about the Internet of

756
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:22.320
Things. I'm not a fan of
any that stuff because it's I'm not saying

757
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:25.840
that will never come a time where
the problems, the privacy security problems that

758
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:30.679
we see today could be worked out
and these states could be beneficial. But

759
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.400
so much of this stuff is rush
to market. Security is an afterthought at

760
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.360
best. They care about market share
and even use. They don't care about

761
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:42.400
privacy and security. And that's anyone
can go easily see for themselves that that's

762
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.239
a true statement, because there is
just an endless list of these devices being

763
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:49.719
hacked and causing problems for people.
And now you're going to take it a

764
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:52.760
step further and put Now, if
anyone can figure this out, it's probably

765
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:57.119
Elon Musk in his team. I
mean, they've done some pretty incredible stuff

766
00:53:57.679 --> 00:54:01.119
in a variety of different industries and
disciplines. But yeah, the idea that

767
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:07.719
I'm going to put a chip in
my brain that is theoretically readable and writeable

768
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:12.719
from an external source and potentially without
my knowledge or consent, no way,

769
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:15.840
not a chance. And I know
this comes like science fiction to people,

770
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:19.880
but folks should look into this because
a lot of this technology is moving a

771
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:25.360
lot more quickly than most people realize. Well and tying into the smart device

772
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:30.159
invited into your home that we've talked
about numerous times in the past, Dave,

773
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:36.400
it's cyber Monday, Christmas is coming
up. People are snapping up all

774
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:42.679
kinds of those so called smart devices
as gifts for their loved ones. And

775
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:50.199
meanwhile, people's homes in this country, infrastructure increasingly outfitted with Internet connected smart

776
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:58.559
devices, vulnerable to hackers, and
public fears about cybersecurity stoked by ransomware attacks

777
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:02.039
on the Colonial Pipeline for example,
and the meat producer JBS in twenty twenty

778
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:07.599
one, and the federal government has
given us all kinds of warnings of foreign

779
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:12.199
attacks on the US power grid,
and we've seen some small examples of those

780
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:16.480
we've highlighted in the past. Dave, So, the more smart devices,

781
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:22.519
the dumber we become. What do
you think, Well, couldn't agree with

782
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:28.079
you more so. Mick kel Hippony
is a well known cybersecurity expert. He

783
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:31.440
coined something called Hipponin's law that basically
says that it's smart, it's vulnerable.

784
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:35.760
Couldn't agree with any more again,
So much of this stuff is rushed to

785
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:38.159
market. They don't care about your
security, they don't care about your privacy.

786
00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:42.480
They just want to say that they're
cheap, crappy devices, naturally the

787
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.440
bottom line. And then add to
it the fact that people don't understand how

788
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:50.480
to set these things up in a
way that they're secure, They don't understand

789
00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:53.119
that they have to apply software updates
to come from the vendor. And then,

790
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:57.280
probably most importantly, I don't I
care if you talked about this or

791
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.800
not. A recent study found that
was smart TV right? The average smart

792
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:06.920
TV vendor only puts out software updates
for their TV for two years now.

793
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:09.119
I'm talking about the big guys,
right, the Samsungs, the Lgs of

794
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:13.639
the world. So that means if
you have a smart TV and it's more

795
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:17.360
than two years old, probably they're
no longer making software updates for DEFUS now,

796
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:22.199
okay. So that means as soon
as some news vulnerability is found,

797
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.400
and there are hackers constantly looking for
these vulnerabilities, and when people say,

798
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:29.440
well, okay, still what they
get into my smart TV? Okay?

799
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.840
If your smart TV is connected to
the same network in your house or your

800
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:38.880
office where you're doing work, could
hackers listen to the inwards of a business

801
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:44.320
deal or private you know, intellectual
property conversations you're having in your business.

802
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.679
Yes. More importantly, could they
use that device to launch attacks against other

803
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:52.320
devices in your network? Other devices
the distributed denial of service attacks you may

804
00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:57.239
recall Gary Yapp. It's been a
while. Hackers took over thousands and thousands

805
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:00.679
and thousands of set top cable boxes, brought down sites like Twitter at one

806
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:06.199
point because they had thousands of these
things, all just start directing traffic to

807
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:09.679
Twitter and other sites that they brought
down. Or worst case scenario, I

808
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:15.360
use a website like showdown to find
IoT Internet of things so called smart devices

809
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:21.239
that have known vulnerabilities, and I
attack those the boxes, a smart TV

810
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:23.320
whatever it is, get in there, and then I use that as a

811
00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:25.880
way to get into your work network, or I do who knows what,

812
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:30.239
steal your money, steal your secret, whatever it is I'm trying to do.

813
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:34.280
And I know this probably sounds smart
fetch to the average person, but

814
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:37.679
this is this is all a real
thing. Go see what the FBI,

815
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:40.280
the NSA, and others have warned
about these devices. And in fact,

816
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:45.639
you know, to the Biden Administration's
credit, they'd come up with a program

817
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:51.920
now similar to the Energy Star program
to demonstrate that a device is energy friendly.

818
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.519
That you know, if manufacturers they
would voluntarily comply with a set up

819
00:57:55.559 --> 00:58:00.760
guidelines and standards that would at least
give you some insight in to are you

820
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:05.559
basically buying a piece of Chinese malware
slash spyware from the Chinese Communist Party,

821
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:10.480
or are you getting a device that
is at least reasonably secure and reasonably protesting

822
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:15.760
freely. Now that hasn't rolled out
yet called fiber trust marks, but at

823
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:19.280
least there are people paying attention to
this because, to your point, people

824
00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:22.719
are buying these things and droves,
plugging them in with no idea how to

825
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:27.800
secure them, and no idea what
the potential downstream impact can be to themselves,

826
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:30.559
their family, or their organization if
and when these things get hacked.

827
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:35.119
And I would argue it's really more
of a wins, you know, than

828
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:38.760
an if they will be hacked,
especially if the venders stop updating. Oh

829
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:45.440
yeah, it's bad. Yeah,
just saw something this morning on your iPhone

830
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:50.800
seventeen. If you've got I think
it was a name drop. I can't

831
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:53.559
remember what it was, but you
had to go inside settings in general,

832
00:58:54.360 --> 00:59:01.440
and otherwise if you didn't turn it
off because there was default. It comes

833
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:06.079
with the phone on. Name drop
is on. And what name drop does

834
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:12.920
is if somebody has another iPhone and
you hold your phone close to their iPhone,

835
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:16.639
they can get all of your information
with name drop on. Is that

836
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:21.679
right? Is that how it works? That's essentially true, Gary, Jeff.

837
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:23.679
I actually tested this with my wife's
so we both have Apple phones.

838
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:28.199
We both upgraded to the latest version
of iOS, which I should crongly encourage

839
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.400
people to do regardless of this feature, but Apples have this air drop capability

840
00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:36.559
for a while, designing to basically
allow you to share content with another iPhone

841
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:39.119
that's in close proximity. Three or
four years ago, it caused a big

842
00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:43.480
stir because by default it was turned
on and it was kind of in this

843
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:46.239
open state where anyone could get close
to you, see your phone, and

844
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:51.679
just put stuff on your phone,
like porn or something. Right, So

845
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:57.199
this new name drop feature sort of
gets into the air drop capability, and

846
00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:00.800
you know, it's a cool feature
if you understand it does and have a

847
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:01.960
use for it, which is,
let's say you go to a trade show

848
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:06.840
and you're meeting a lot of people
when you want to get their contact information,

849
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:08.199
Well, you have an Apple phone. I have an Apple phone.

850
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:12.559
You have name drop turned on.
I have name drop turned on. Once

851
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:15.559
the phones get close that testing it
with my wife's phone, a message popped

852
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:21.079
up on both of our phones and
basically you know, she had the option

853
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:24.280
to accept it, as did I. You also think configure the information that

854
01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:28.880
could change now. Of course,
the Mary thirty years she's already got much

855
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:35.119
conspect information and vice person so there
was no need to share. There may

856
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:40.159
be a very close proximity how close
and I mean I had the phone probably

857
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:45.559
within a couple of centimeters in each
other. You're talking about real close.

858
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:50.119
You're talking about contact almost yeah,
almost contact, yeah, and the other

859
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:52.760
thing. But but you're you're exactly
right. It would be better if Apple.

860
01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:57.599
You know, I'm not that concerned
about this feature, frankly, because

861
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.199
someone does have to be close,
and you have to then now I can

862
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:02.840
understand where someone would look at it
and go, I don't understand what this

863
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:06.840
is after me and they just say, okay, you know, And I

864
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.199
think it's a terrible idea for kids
to have this turned on. And I'm

865
01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:12.920
hopeful, you know, Apple's gotten
a lot of backlash over the past you

866
01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:16.920
did. I'm hoping they'll just change
it so that it's disabled by default and

867
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:21.320
you have to consciously turn it on. That would make a lot more sense.

868
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:23.599
Hey, I know what name dropped
is is that I'm going to consciously

869
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:28.360
turn on because I want to use
it, as opposed to it's just on,

870
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.239
which then could potentially be exploited.
Yeah, I mean, and you're

871
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:37.519
right, nobody has more dirt on
us personally than our wives, Dave,

872
01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:45.000
that's for sure. That's a security
risk every time. If you've got to

873
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:50.760
make sure you trust the missus with
all of your personal data. Well,

874
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:52.639
it's always a pleasure to talk to
you. And I'm sure as we get

875
01:01:52.679 --> 01:02:00.199
closer and closer to Christmas, as
the shopping before dropping continue and there are

876
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:06.280
all kinds of really cool stuff,
bright shiny objects out there that people are

877
01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:07.840
going to be saying, Hey,
man, I want to get this.

878
01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:12.360
I'm want to be the first to
get this for my loved one. They're

879
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:16.000
gonna love it. And meanwhile,
they're opening the floodgates of security issues right

880
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:21.760
and left because they don't understand how
these smart devices make us all dumber.

881
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:27.719
With that, I will wish you
well. Hopefully we'll talk next week,

882
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.800
if not soon. Dave Hadter from
intrust It. I appreciate it, man,

883
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:35.559
my pleasure, Garrett, Jeff,
thanks you, sir. All right,

884
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:39.760
thank you. It's the nightcap and
it continues in mere moments. We'll

885
01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:45.239
have Jeff vermont or vermont On.
He's the co founder of Tusk, a

886
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:53.679
totally free speech platform. We hope
eureka right, It's what everybody needs is

887
01:02:53.800 --> 01:03:00.519
more free speech. And also Michael
Lets, a law enforcement veteran and the

888
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:07.000
founder of invest USA, which helps
police officers all across the nation law enforcement

889
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:15.559
with updated life saving bulletproof vests and
the like. It's all ahead in minutes

890
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:22.519
on seven hundred WLW. It's Tuesday
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891
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:25.119
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892
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:30.159
side. UCS ballers are looking to
put on a show, but Howard has

893
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:35.440
other plans for the Red and Black
Happy Bank Shot store. That's a math

894
01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:38.920
bash. It's the call live coverage
stars tomorrow night at six thirty. Cat

895
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:44.559
I'll take it a three point on
seven hundred w DLW and on seven hundred

896
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:49.519
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897
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898
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899
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:03.000
My pleasure once again to have the
co founder or the founder and CEO

900
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:09.639
of TUSK, which is a free
speech platform. Are there any of those

901
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:16.280
left yet? Yes, there are. Jeff Bermant, who has been just

902
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:21.000
instrumental in bringing this to light.
He always says that the great Mark Levin

903
01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:28.559
the great one. Mark Levin challenged
him to do something, and so Tusk

904
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:32.639
was born, and to talk about
that and to talk about some more free

905
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:38.480
speech issues once again. Jeff bermant, how you doing, Jeff, I'm

906
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:40.679
fine, Gary, great to be
on your show again. Thank you.

907
01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:45.039
Have a good holiday, and the
like I did, it was very fun.

908
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:47.599
I had some family over, we
had some turkey, watch a lot

909
01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:51.599
of football, yep, and all
those college games. I think I was

910
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:57.280
glued to the set from seven o'clock
in the morning until ten o'clock at night.

911
01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:00.079
No. Yeah, there's nothing better
than this time of year for college

912
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:05.119
football and important, impactful college football
games. We still got a few ahead

913
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:11.039
in the weekend to come. Jeff. You were a graduate of the University

914
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:19.159
of Southern California, which saw a
pretty ugly incident occur last week. There

915
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:26.360
were anti Semitic protesters on campus,
which we've seen all over the country,

916
01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:32.440
and a professor was standing up to
them and saying that Hamas as a terrorist

917
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:36.440
organization needs to be eliminated, and
by eliminated, he means they should all

918
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:40.880
die, they should all be killed. I happen to agree with him.

919
01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:45.639
He got in trouble with the university
for saying that because these pro Palestinian or

920
01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:51.519
whatever they call themselves protesters made it
look like he was saying that all Palestinians

921
01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:55.960
should be killed, which is not
what he said. But so you know

922
01:05:56.119 --> 01:06:02.039
that the long arm of the dee
eye law came down on this professor.

923
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:08.400
Uh, tell me about the story, and and tell me about your disbelief.

924
01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:13.400
It's his story, Jeff, Yeah, as a graduate from USC.

925
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:16.800
And of course it's happening all over
the country, Columbia, Yale, Harvard,

926
01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:23.039
I mean, and Harvard being one
of the worst supporting Hamas and UH.

927
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:27.280
And and what's so weird about this
is the diversity thing. You're not

928
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:30.639
allowed to you know, you have
to you have to talk properly on campus.

929
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:35.320
But then AMAS can come out and
their there UH supporters can come out

930
01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:41.960
and say all types of terrible things
about about Jews and the destruction. I

931
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:45.599
mean, when you talk about from
the river to the sea, you're talking

932
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:49.239
about the total destruction of Israel.
And and yet they can do that.

933
01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:54.280
But if a professor stands up and
says, listen, AMAS needs to go

934
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:58.440
and they're the ones that need to
be eliminated from the earth, well then

935
01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:02.880
then the university the uh uh takes
him on puts them on leave. It's

936
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:08.599
incredible, it's uh. And it
strikes in the in the face of freedom

937
01:07:08.639 --> 01:07:13.199
of speech, that that you're at
risk at everything you do, because yes,

938
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:17.320
you have the freedom of speech,
but at you at your own peril.

939
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:20.440
And that's what's kind of crazy about
the whole thing. Well, when

940
01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:25.480
I when I think of from the
river to the sea, I think about

941
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:30.639
the elimination of all Islamic Jihadis from
the West Bank to Gaza. That's what

942
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:34.119
I mean. Uh. And and
that's what he was talking about as well.

943
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:39.320
And you know what these people are. I don't even I don't know

944
01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:44.840
if you can even call them people, uh not not certainly feeling or thinking

945
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:48.639
human beings. These Amas, terrorists
and has Belah. And I'll just the

946
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:55.639
the Uti Rebels and Yemen, you
know, every Islami jihad love them all

947
01:07:55.719 --> 01:08:00.760
together. They're all the same thing
as Isis. And people have no problem

948
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:05.960
with killing Isis when they were rampaging
across the Middle East in Syria. But

949
01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:14.719
all of a sudden, because it's
Israel and it's the Palestinian people, which

950
01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:20.000
isn't actually a real culture or people
it's you know, it's weird. It's

951
01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:30.279
head scratching that we have all these
pro Hamas campus protests going on around the

952
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:33.479
country. It's amazing to me.
Well, you have to remember part of

953
01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:39.159
this, which is, you know, the the groups that want to attack

954
01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:42.960
us, they've been very smart and
they've been donating money to these universities.

955
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:47.079
And so this pro Palestinian thing,
a lot of it comes from the kids

956
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:49.640
that are there. They're not even
from our country, but the ones that

957
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:55.039
are from a country who are being
duped into this whole storyline about it.

958
01:08:55.279 --> 01:09:00.000
This is Israeli's aggression. I mean, Israeli did nothing to to create this

959
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:03.800
situation. All they want to do. Listen, all I've been to Israel.

960
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:06.680
All Israel wants to do is they
want to live in peace. They're

961
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:11.560
a democracy, they want to live
in peace. I think some of the

962
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:15.399
Arab countries are about to turn that
way. And this was a way of

963
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:19.800
course, to destroy, or to
attempt to destroy maybe a peaceful settlement in

964
01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:25.239
the Israeli area. But you have
to feel sorry for the Israelis. I

965
01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:29.520
mean, I'm very ecstatic that they
have such a an army, but I

966
01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:32.399
mean, here a small, tiny, country like this has to fight to

967
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:36.920
preserve itself real quickly. Yeah,
yeah, Jeff, I agree, real

968
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.399
I wanted to get this in in
just a couple of minutes. We've got

969
01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:45.600
left to see if you knew about
this, this new news Guard, the

970
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:51.640
government backed censorship tool build as an
arbitter of truth. Since you're the founder

971
01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:58.720
of CEO of Tusk, which is
a free speech web browser, and you

972
01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:03.439
know, a real new this kind
of thing with government contracts and corporate backers,

973
01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:10.199
NewsGuard seeks to monetize the work of
reshaping the Internet. Have you have

974
01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:14.840
you heard about NewsGuard? I have
not, but I will be looking that

975
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:17.920
up as soon as we get on
get off the phone here, NewsGuard.

976
01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:24.279
I don't know anything about him or
anything about the plan. I'm suspect of

977
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:30.960
particularly disgovernment deciding to muffle free speech. And you know where we're going into

978
01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:34.359
school, so we've had enough of
this. I'm going to start teaching kids

979
01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:38.439
about what is what is it like
to be freedom of speech? How do

980
01:10:38.479 --> 01:10:41.720
you have freedom of speech? This
came to light in the Twitter files revelations

981
01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:49.399
about media censorship. Former publisher The
Wall Street Journal L. Gordon Krovitz touted

982
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:57.760
his project products NewsGuard as a vaccine
against misinformation that sends up, that sends

983
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:00.720
up all the red flags you should
need to see. Yeah, yes,

984
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:06.239
as soon as they say misinformation,
that's it's usually them that's providing the misinformation

985
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:12.760
and blaming it on conservatives. I
invite everyone to check out TUSK where they

986
01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:16.720
can, and to keep Jeff Bermant
in mind because I think you're doing wonderful

987
01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:24.399
things trying to make sure that free
speech remains free on the internet. Jeff,

988
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:28.279
thanks for all your efforts. Have
no problem carry I'm happy to be

989
01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:30.279
on the show. Thank you,
all right, Jeff Fermant with us on

990
01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:34.880
this nightcap. Coming up next,
Michael Letts. After the commercial break,

991
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:41.720
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992
01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:45.319
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993
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:48.600
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994
01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:55.079
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995
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996
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997
01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:16.039
on seven hundred WLW. Our next
guest is Michael Letz, who is the

998
01:12:16.439 --> 01:12:25.720
demand behind invest USA. It's an
organization that works at providing vests for law

999
01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:30.159
enforcement for first responders around the country, also works on educating the public.

1000
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:35.560
He's a law enforcement veteran, and
tonight Michael and I are talking about the

1001
01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:40.159
we were just kind of talking about
with Jeff Berman a few minutes ago,

1002
01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:47.000
the pro terrorists protests that are going
on around our country in the United States,

1003
01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:54.920
the anti Semitic support of murderers like
Hamas and Hezbollah on college campuses and

1004
01:12:55.039 --> 01:12:58.800
elsewhere and in our cities, and
how that is a threat, a further

1005
01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:03.119
threat to law enforcement, which has
seen so many threats come their way.

1006
01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:10.199
It's not like if you're in law
enforcement, there aren't inherent threats from the

1007
01:13:10.279 --> 01:13:13.600
day you were putting your life on
the line. Every time you go out

1008
01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:17.439
on the streets. The object is
to come home safe to your family at

1009
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:23.199
the end of every shift. Well, that's become increasingly more difficult because of

1010
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:31.359
politicized dismantling and destruction of police around
the country, About the dissuasion of people

1011
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:39.520
becoming police and law enforcement officers because
of this added pressure and Michael good evening

1012
01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:43.359
how are you. I'm doing great. Thank you so much for Evy on

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01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:45.079
your show. It's always a privilege, all right, And so I wanted

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01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:51.720
to ask you, is it more
dangerous for police officers and law enforcement in

1015
01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:57.560
this country now than it was in
the Summer of hate twenty twenty with the

1016
01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:03.079
George Floyd riots and BLM and Antifa
and the fires and taking over police stations

1017
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:08.600
in a presidential year, And is
it going to get even more dangerous in

1018
01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:14.279
your opinion as we approach this next
presidential election just a few months away.

1019
01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:16.840
Is it more dangerous now or was
it more dangerous than twenty twenty? Mike,

1020
01:14:18.319 --> 01:14:21.800
No, it's definitely more dangerous now, and it's escalated. You know,

1021
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:25.439
there are so many factors out there
right now. Of course, you

1022
01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:30.520
understand with the situation on the border
with Gods of being a precursor for terrorist

1023
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:35.159
threats in this country. We know
for a fact intelligence from the Middle East

1024
01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:41.560
is showing us that has a bulla
and Amas have already entered into the United

1025
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:44.840
States view of the southern border.
In fact, we just caught four last

1026
01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:47.239
week that were bringing in explosives.
So we know it's not a matter of

1027
01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:50.319
here. It's a matter of when
we think it's evident. Did you add

1028
01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:56.920
on fact that they are generating all
these protests across the country in our universities.

1029
01:14:56.960 --> 01:15:00.039
I think it's interesting your listeners should
be aware of that. We we

1030
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:04.199
just discovered that thirteen billion that's with
a B, thirteen billion dollars has been

1031
01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:11.720
given to over two hundred universities across
the country by Middle Eastern companies Iran,

1032
01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:17.680
Syria and others. Unreported. The
unreported to the IRS basically than ricks and

1033
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:23.279
what they have done they drive these
universities, allowed them to send their dissident

1034
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:29.399
students free of charge here on visus
to the Basons and they have up organize

1035
01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:31.880
what you're beating to see down across
the country. The fortune there's a lot

1036
01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:38.680
of American young people who have no
knowledge show we say, no common sense,

1037
01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:42.119
to go along with all riot just
because that's what everybody else is doing.

1038
01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:47.760
So it has made law enforcement exceptionally
more vulnerable, more dangerous, and

1039
01:15:48.239 --> 01:15:51.560
more stretched. You know, it's
bad enough. We've lost so many thousands

1040
01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:57.319
of officers across the country due to
the defund the police mouvement, due to

1041
01:15:57.319 --> 01:16:01.119
the code vaccinations and others. Little
we have less we can strust even further.

1042
01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:08.039
You are right, presidential legend is
gearing up, and that will make

1043
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:12.000
it even more dangerous. So we've
got a lot of danger and a whole

1044
01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:15.000
lot of few a lot less officers
to deal with it. Yeah, I

1045
01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:20.279
mean New York is down what three
thousand officers from what is considered to be

1046
01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:26.680
like the right number. Is that
what I heard? That is correct?

1047
01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:30.039
Yeah, that's just one area.
I mean, you know, La is

1048
01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:33.840
the same, Ports, the same, Seattle, Atlanta, Detroit. No,

1049
01:16:35.039 --> 01:16:42.760
I mean Cincinnati is down what is
considered a safe complement of police officers.

1050
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:45.199
I mean we're experiencing that here.
Maybe not on the same level,

1051
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:50.640
the same percentages, but it's still
a big chunk of less people on the

1052
01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:57.399
street to keep the average person safe. Yeah. And this tragic part about

1053
01:16:57.399 --> 01:16:59.680
it is, of course, initially
it was thought that they would just ad

1054
01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:03.199
been liberal areas, the blue cities, shall we say, that will lose

1055
01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:08.199
to so many of their office was
because of their policies. But now it's

1056
01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:13.159
not just in the liberal areas.
But there's such a negative trend towards law

1057
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:18.239
enforcement period because of the FED.
The FEDS are getting involved and making cases

1058
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:23.439
against cops. They have no business
being done, and they're just saying,

1059
01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:27.199
what's the value of doing it?
Why putting my life on the line for

1060
01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:30.359
people that don't appreciate it and jeopardizing
my family's future. Not going to do

1061
01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:33.680
it. I'll find something else to
do. And we as America are suffering

1062
01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:39.399
because of it, oh, absolutely
every single day. And if you add

1063
01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:47.359
in and compile that, compound that
with these liberal das and attorney district attorneys

1064
01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:54.800
in these big cities that George Soros
funded their elections with millions and millions of

1065
01:17:55.039 --> 01:18:02.359
overseas dollars. You add that the
revolve door of justice or not prosecuting crimes

1066
01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:09.079
that otherwise would have carried jail sentences. It makes the job even more interminably

1067
01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:14.359
nearly impossible for law enforcement because they
can do all the good they can do,

1068
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:18.760
all the good work that they know
how to do and catching and arresting

1069
01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:23.920
the criminals, but when the criminals
are right back out on the streets the

1070
01:18:24.039 --> 01:18:28.560
next day or the next week,
you have to at certain points, you

1071
01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:30.920
have to be a pretty strong person
not to throw up your hands and go,

1072
01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:34.600
well, what's the use? Well, especially when you have well this

1073
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:38.439
is you know, you hate to
say it, but this is just we

1074
01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:42.439
speak the truth. Yeah, your
federal agencies f B, I do you,

1075
01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:47.000
Jay and others that have been politicized
and weaponized, and they're now going

1076
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:54.880
after conservatives, going after those who
don't share liberal ideology, including officers.

1077
01:18:55.239 --> 01:19:00.119
They're making cases. I was you're
so distrusting Derrick the officer that was the

1078
01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:06.279
ball with George Floyd. Yeah,
Derek to jail and then stab And here's

1079
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:13.520
the bottom line, the Department of
Justice do this. The medical wreckers from

1080
01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:19.319
the corners dolls were changed to reflect
that he died from drug overdose to assyxiation

1081
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:26.159
YEP. An independent evaluation. Medical
evaluation continues to show that it was not

1082
01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:30.880
affixiation. George Floyd was totally innocent. George Floyd was a dead man walking

1083
01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:34.800
before Derek chauven Ever laid a knee
on his neck. Michael Letz with that,

1084
01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:39.520
we've got to go tonight, but
hopefully we can talk again from invest

1085
01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:43.600
USA. Michael Letts on the Nightcap, We'll break and come back with a

1086
01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:48.239
special guest in moments on seven hundred, WLW needs to bring you on the

1087
01:19:48.319 --> 01:19:53.079
Nightcap. I have not, but
I wanted to do this I've been wanting

1088
01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:56.640
to do this for a long time. Actually on the program was bring back

1089
01:19:57.239 --> 01:20:00.920
my dear friend lol Ponte. One
of the discussions we have this dates back

1090
01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:08.840
to April of twenty twenty two,
and we're talking about protecting children in classrooms,

1091
01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:13.439
protecting children in the womb, and
all the right and I just I

1092
01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:17.199
love to hear the voice of the
smartest man I have ever known. So

1093
01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:25.000
once again revisiting a discussion with the
Great Lowell Ponte on the Nightcap, we

1094
01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:29.880
are back for another segment with Loll
Ponte on a Monday evening here on seven

1095
01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:33.039
utter WLW. It is the Nightcap
Gary the Jeff as Lowell has dubbed me.

1096
01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:40.399
With Lowell on the phone, we
were talking about the new legislation in

1097
01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:45.279
Maryland that is allowing all kinds of
different people to perform abortions now legally.

1098
01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:50.960
And I wanted to get back Lowell
real quickly to the point of discussion when

1099
01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:59.319
we were talking about the new Florida
law which prohibits the teaching of sexual sexual

1100
01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:03.479
perversion and I'll just call it what
I want to sexual perversion in kindergarten,

1101
01:21:03.880 --> 01:21:06.319
first, second and third grade class
room. Well, no, but if

1102
01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:10.399
you were objective, I would just
add as a quick footnote, Yeah,

1103
01:21:11.279 --> 01:21:17.359
the law protects children kindergarten through third
grade from being taught any sexuality right exactly,

1104
01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:23.680
hoterosexual, homosexual, whatever. Sir
doesn't single out what type of sexuality

1105
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:28.920
cannot be taught. It just said
a kindergarten teacher is not even qualified to

1106
01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:32.439
teach sex. There are kindergarten teachers
right now, God love them, who

1107
01:21:32.439 --> 01:21:39.279
aren't qualified to teach one through ten. But anyway, I just wanted to

1108
01:21:39.359 --> 01:21:47.720
make a point about alternative lifestyles and
about sex in general. Sex is a

1109
01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:54.359
choice in any form, and it
should be a choice of adult people.

1110
01:21:56.479 --> 01:22:00.960
And you know, once you were
a man or a woman, and yes,

1111
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:04.279
there are only two options once you're
a man or a woman. If

1112
01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:09.199
you choose to have sex with another
man and you're a man, that is

1113
01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:13.840
a choice. We've been told for
years that I was like this when I

1114
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:16.000
was when I was a baby.
I've been like this ever since I can

1115
01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:20.279
remember, And so I didn't have
a choice. You always have a choice

1116
01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:25.239
whether to have sex or not.
You always have a choice whether you have

1117
01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:29.439
homosexual sex or not. You have
a choice. No, no, no,

1118
01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:32.119
I do want to qualify, okay, but I know you love to

1119
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:40.479
be accurate. You will still have
restraints on Gary Jeff kind of sexuality from

1120
01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:44.359
your years in the South, and
that is, anything you do to an

1121
01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:48.479
animal would constitute cruelty to the animal. Yes, and that is restricted by

1122
01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:53.680
law, even though your sexual preferences
may not be. And that is also

1123
01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:57.520
a choice to break the law.
You know how many? How many countries

1124
01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:02.520
in the world list homoie actuality as
a crime, and it's punished very severely

1125
01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:08.039
in some of those countries. Many
of those are supported by Disney and Hollywood.

1126
01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:11.720
I don't know how many, quite
a few, yes, at least

1127
01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:16.600
sixty. But back to my original
point, Louell, sex is a choice

1128
01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:21.399
if you're the one who is initiating. Obviously, I'm not talking about rape

1129
01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:27.439
or incest victims who who don't who
find themselves in a position where they're not

1130
01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:32.359
choosing to have sex, but the
actual act of am I going to have

1131
01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:35.279
sex with a man? Am I
going to have sex with a woman?

1132
01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:40.000
Am I going to pretend I'm a
woman even though I'm an All of this

1133
01:23:40.359 --> 01:23:45.079
is a choice. Do you agree? Though they are all choices? Yes?

1134
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:50.640
Yes, And whether whether it's heterosexual
sex or homosexual sex. It is

1135
01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:56.560
a choice. It's not like someone's
putting a gun to your head and saying

1136
01:23:57.000 --> 01:24:00.880
you have to have sex this way
or have to have sex this way.

1137
01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:05.720
The laws that were written in Florida
and are coming down the legislative pike in

1138
01:24:05.800 --> 01:24:11.760
these other states to fend off this
nonsense, this craziness, this perversion,

1139
01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:16.840
and this indoctrination of young children.
The states that are writing these laws are

1140
01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:24.920
not trying to outlaw homosexuality or transgender
They're just trying to be common sense about

1141
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:29.600
this and say, you know,
this is really a parent's job, and

1142
01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:33.920
we should we should keep our noses
out of out of their bedrooms and out

1143
01:24:34.079 --> 01:24:39.479
of influencing them one way or the
other. And I was reminded just a

1144
01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:45.800
few days ago, if you are
very young, and you OneD doesn't even

1145
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:49.359
need to go to kindergarten to third
grade. If you're twelve, Let's say

1146
01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:55.319
you cannot walk into a tattoo parlor
and get a tattoo. In most states,

1147
01:24:56.079 --> 01:25:00.560
the low says you cannot modify your
body that way. But Joe Biden

1148
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:05.319
and the Democratic Party are now pushing
for a law that would let a child,

1149
01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:13.880
and I mean young children consent to
have a sex change operation, or

1150
01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:20.640
to take or maturity limiting hormones or
other things. Now, children are generally

1151
01:25:20.760 --> 01:25:26.760
not allowed to give their permission for
all sorts of things, but somehow they're

1152
01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:29.840
allowed to give their permission for this. And it's got to the point where

1153
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:36.079
as Laura Wellington wrote just days ago
at American Thinker, she took her to

1154
01:25:36.199 --> 01:25:43.560
her twelve year old to a pediatrician's
office, and the nurse at the pediatrician's

1155
01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:49.840
office gave documents to her son and
said, you fill these out. They

1156
01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:55.199
didn't give them to the mother.
They didn't ask the mother's permission or approval

1157
01:25:55.720 --> 01:25:59.319
to do that. They wanted the
son to fill out and sign the forms.

1158
01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:03.279
How does a twelve year old have
either the knowledge, the worldliness,

1159
01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:09.119
or the training to know how to
handle such a thing, I dare say

1160
01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:14.520
not. Or maybe at twelve,
maybe, even with the failure of our

1161
01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:17.720
public schools in this country, maybe
at twelve the reading level to actually read

1162
01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:21.800
what the forum says and fully understand
it well, if they go to public

1163
01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:29.560
schools especially, that's probably very limited. But what we are seeing increasingly is

1164
01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:34.880
that children are encouraged to think of
themselves as sexually different from the way they

1165
01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:41.359
were born. Now, now there
really is theoretically such a thing as sexual

1166
01:26:42.640 --> 01:26:49.520
dimorphism or sexual you know, you
were born in the form of one body,

1167
01:26:49.560 --> 01:26:54.279
but you really feel like you belong
in another body. That does happen.

1168
01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:59.520
But even in the cases of those
who have been carefully and honestly diagnosed

1169
01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:02.880
with that condition, not just by
drug companies who want to make money or

1170
01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:11.000
doctors who want to make money because
of it, they are in a very

1171
01:27:12.479 --> 01:27:19.560
well eighty percent of them in general
decide to shed the dimorphism after a few

1172
01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:26.199
years or months, and they just
return to perfect contentment with the body in

1173
01:27:26.279 --> 01:27:30.680
which they were born. They no
longer want to be turned into the opposite

1174
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:35.119
sex, or another sex, or
what have you. And lo and behold.

1175
01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:42.439
Nevertheless, we have Biden and the
Democrats pushing hard to say that your

1176
01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:48.199
child age eight, nine, ten
in public schools should have the right to

1177
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:55.239
make a secret agreement with the teachers
and the doctors to undergo a sex change,

1178
01:27:56.359 --> 01:28:00.399
or to undergo a gay club,
which is now becoming very populular at

1179
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:03.119
schools in many parts of the country. Leftist part of the country club.

1180
01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:10.600
Oh yes, because it's it's somehow
chic and interesting to be in the gay

1181
01:28:10.680 --> 01:28:14.319
club. But the parent will not
necessarily be told that their child is in

1182
01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:19.079
this club, or that their child
is now taking hormones to alter their maturation,

1183
01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:24.640
or that their child is going to
undergo surgery in two weeks, so

1184
01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:28.600
the parents are completely out of the
loop on this. The parents are in

1185
01:28:28.680 --> 01:28:32.079
the odd position of being in the
loop when it comes to pain for things

1186
01:28:32.479 --> 01:28:38.079
and when it comes to taking legal
responsibility for the child. But schools now

1187
01:28:38.199 --> 01:28:43.560
consider it almost normal, indeed der
rigueur if you have enough gay teachers and

1188
01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:51.840
administrators to basically force or nudge strongly
your child to agree to these things and

1189
01:28:53.199 --> 01:28:57.600
have no legal obligation to inform the
parent to get the parents approval in any

1190
01:28:57.680 --> 01:29:01.119
way. In fact, they encourage
them. Children don't tell your parents.

1191
01:29:01.880 --> 01:29:06.800
This is one of the major issues
when students began being taught by zoom calls

1192
01:29:08.479 --> 01:29:13.079
home at the early height of the
epidemic. Remember with the pandemic of aid

1193
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:20.079
of COVID, and schools were actually
trying to issue orders home parents, you

1194
01:29:20.199 --> 01:29:25.560
are prohibited from watching what your child. I remember, I remember that very

1195
01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:30.359
very vividly. Yes, I mean
isn't it time that we did away with

1196
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:36.079
government schools, absolute government propaganda and
ideology to your children, the Department of

1197
01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:41.600
Education. All schools were privatized and
left alone by the government. The Department

1198
01:29:41.640 --> 01:29:46.439
of Education should have never been and
it should be eliminated at the federal level,

1199
01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:51.439
absolutely, versus a Jimmy Carter created
department in the government. I graduated

1200
01:29:51.560 --> 01:29:56.720
high school in nineteen seventy nine,
the first year of the federal Department of

1201
01:29:56.880 --> 01:30:00.880
Education, and I always feel even
though I was a subpar student, I

1202
01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:06.760
got a much better education than the
students that followed me afterwards of a whole

1203
01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:13.279
different set of agenda items in government
schools, not least of which is total

1204
01:30:13.399 --> 01:30:18.479
servility to teachers' unions, which are
major political instruments that give millions and millions

1205
01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:24.399
and millions of dollars to politicians in
California. In fact, I used to

1206
01:30:24.439 --> 01:30:28.840
work in the legislature in Sacramento.
There was a ritual where the head of

1207
01:30:28.920 --> 01:30:34.880
the state teachers union would occasionally appear
in Sacramento and the politicians were expected literally

1208
01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:40.520
to kneel before them. What are
you serious, Yes, I'm very serious.

1209
01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:45.399
Yes, that is if they were
Democrats. But I mean, anytime

1210
01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:48.479
you vote for a Democrat, this
is the kind of future you are risking

1211
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:54.159
for your children and grandchildren. In
fact, you're virtually guaranteeing if you keep

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voting Democrat. What is the thing
on the left with everybody kneeling for things

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that aret holy or righteous? I
mean they kneel before the national anthem to

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you know, to protest. Police
don't give you a pray. They don't

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01:31:10.359 --> 01:31:13.680
give you a bar of soap first, no doubt. Oh, by the

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01:31:13.720 --> 01:31:16.760
way, Joe Biden is something we
should talk of over. Joe Biden is

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now setting things up so he will
attempt to cancel student loan debt in the

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country. There is one point seventy
five trillion dollars of student loan debt in

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01:31:28.960 --> 01:31:34.760
the country. People poor, humble
people like Alexandria A Cassio Cortez still oh

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01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:40.359
student loan debt, even though she's
now wealthy, and so many of them

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01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:45.000
are just waiting to have it erased
from the books. Biden will have to

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01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:47.359
attempt to do it by executive order. I don't think they can get it

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01:31:47.439 --> 01:31:54.239
through Congress. But the mere fact
that he and Bernie Sanders would contemplate that

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01:31:55.520 --> 01:31:59.920
is astonishing. And of course,
the people who use their student loan debt

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01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:03.760
to get a college degree, some
of them come out with a starting salary

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of two hundred thousand dollars a year. Now, some of them, they're

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01:32:09.359 --> 01:32:14.520
expecting their student loan depth, the
one point seventy five trillion dollars which added

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01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:19.359
to our inflation, among other things. They're expecting the working poor and lower

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01:32:19.439 --> 01:32:26.560
middle class workers who have none of
those special privileges and advantages, to pay

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01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:30.439
off the debt of the rich.
This is how the Democratic Party operates.

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Oh, and it's unabated. You're
right up to this point. Congress is

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the only stop gap. Executive order
will be the only way, and that

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01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:42.920
of course will be challenged like many
other of Biden's executive orders since he's been

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01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:45.239
in office. We got about four
minutes low. You got a four minute

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01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:50.960
topic, a four minute top four
minute topic. Oh wow, well we've

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01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:57.439
already used up about thirty seconds just
talking about it. So it was it

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01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:02.079
was very very it was very very
revealing. Last week when we saw Barack

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Obama visit the White House as a
special guest and to see the president,

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01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:14.439
the actual President of the United States, Joe Biden shunned by everyone in attendance,

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including, of course, his his
former boss, former President Obama.

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01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:27.560
He was holding court there and Joe
Biden was just wandering around aimlessly, staring

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01:33:27.600 --> 01:33:30.880
at walls. Oh. At one
point, Biden actually put his hand on

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01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:34.439
Obama's shoulder, and Obama would not
even turn and look at him. No,

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01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:39.039
he totally blew him, and Nancy
Pelosi walked by him as if he

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01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:45.039
were a servant who was in charge
of divvying out the drinks. Bring another

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01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:49.119
tray of ordervs. Joe, I
know what I know one thing in California.

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01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:53.439
Yes, and I could go and
do I could spend hours talking about

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01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:56.840
the horrors of He got three minutes, so go ahead, Okay. Well

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01:33:57.000 --> 01:34:03.000
one of them is the city of
Palm Springs has now preliminarily voted that if

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01:34:03.079 --> 01:34:09.399
you are gay or transsexual, you
are to be given nine hundred dollars a

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01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:15.119
month as universal basic income, just
for being a gay or transsexual. By

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01:34:15.159 --> 01:34:18.159
the way, the mayor of Palm
Springs is transsexual. But this is a

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01:34:18.239 --> 01:34:23.000
fairly significant city. It's where Frank
Sinatra used to have a home and so

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01:34:23.159 --> 01:34:30.239
on. Yes, and well,
it's also the district where Sonny Bono was

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01:34:30.279 --> 01:34:34.000
elected as a as a representative in
the House of Mayor and was in the

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01:34:34.119 --> 01:34:40.520
US House of Representatives representing that district, and he was notably very conservative.

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01:34:41.319 --> 01:34:45.800
How things have changed, how things
have changed. And of course back then,

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01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:49.000
not to say the area was bad, but they had a law about

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01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:57.359
endangered species. And so one day
they were building a new housing development complex

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01:34:57.479 --> 01:35:03.560
in Palm Springs when in the middle
of the night, the authorities apprehended someone

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01:35:03.600 --> 01:35:09.720
who was sneaking around in the complex
and they discovered what that person was doing.

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01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:15.399
He was taking endangered tortoises and setting
them down in the complex so they

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01:35:15.439 --> 01:35:19.680
could be found the next day,
which would of course raise a human cry

1264
01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:25.560
that the complex building had to be
stopped and torn down because this was somehow

1265
01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:31.479
important breeding ground for these endangered tortoises
when they were actually being transported from somewhere

1266
01:35:31.520 --> 01:35:35.399
else. Oh, that's been done
many times in California with one SPECIs or

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01:35:35.399 --> 01:35:40.159
another. There was one case in
northern California where they wanted to stop the

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01:35:40.279 --> 01:35:45.079
forest from being cut down for its
wood, a small forest, and they

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01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:50.760
went in. One environmentalist went in
and was actually snagging endangered fur from a

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01:35:50.840 --> 01:35:57.680
creature on some of the branches of
the trees there, which would have been

1271
01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:02.920
used had the hebat not been caught
to justify stopping all the tree cutting there.

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01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:09.039
I mean, this is a standard
left wing practice in California. There's

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01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:12.319
a lot of them. Listen,
Low, our time sadly has gone for

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01:36:12.399 --> 01:36:17.079
the evening, But I really appreciate
your cooperation and your brilliance and bringing these

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01:36:17.159 --> 01:36:21.840
topics to light and bringing them to
greater focus than I could do on my

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01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:27.439
own. Certainly, Well, thank
you. You're much too modest, and

1277
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:32.159
you are our exemplar for proper sexual
behavior. Let's not go into it.

1278
01:36:32.359 --> 01:36:36.560
Let's not go into it at all. But by by God, it's my

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01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:41.640
choice, Low, and it should
be yours and everyone else's. And you

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01:36:41.720 --> 01:36:45.039
know those things with books, you
wouldn't believe. You do not. You

1281
01:36:45.239 --> 01:36:51.119
do not. You do not have
a choice at five, six or seven,

1282
01:36:51.239 --> 01:36:56.319
because you don't know, you don't
know anything about it, and nor

1283
01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:59.840
should you. It should be the
parents can be programmed and brainwall you can.

1284
01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:02.880
In fact, it's being done right
now, and that's why the Florida

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01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:06.560
law was so important, instrumental.
It's stopped it. There's the least business

1286
01:37:06.720 --> 01:37:10.439
isn't really happening. Well, then
why did they object to the law?

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01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:14.840
Exactly? Lowell, thank you God, Bless, take cad bless. All

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01:37:14.920 --> 01:37:17.680
right, we will close out the
nightcap in just minutes. On seven under

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01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:26.079
WLWS Joe nineteenth, eighteen forty six, the first match game of baseball was

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01:37:26.159 --> 01:37:30.319
played on the Elezian Fields between the
Knickerbockers and New York's. The game was

1291
01:37:30.439 --> 01:37:34.800
different then. There were no balls
or strikes. Everyone played bare handed,

1292
01:37:35.079 --> 01:37:44.039
and cats were used instead of wooden
batch. And you'll hear another great American

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01:37:44.119 --> 01:37:47.399
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