WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:09.359 Glasson. He just told me he couldn't hear the Supremesies. He loves that 2 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:12.919 group, but he didn't get the audio feed of the music coming out there. 3 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:18.600 Jack Lawson publisher of Civil Defense Manual, the two volume book that you 4 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:22.440 can find at Civil Defensemanual dot com. We talked about here frequently. It 5 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:27.399 covers so many different topics. But you know, today we've got a lot 6 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.839 of different topics to talk about here because there are so many different threats on 7 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:34.640 the horizon and they're all escalating in so many different ways. So joining us 8 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:38.600 now is Jack Lawson. Thank you for joining us, sir. Always a 9 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:41.320 pleasure, David, always a pleasure. Good to have you on. Let's 10 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:43.520 talk a little bit about you know, the first time we ever talked. 11 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:47.119 Let let's begin with what happened with AT and T last week, because first 12 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:51.399 time we ever talked, we talked about how fragile the infrastructure is, and 13 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:54.280 so you know, we had the cell phones go down, and part of 14 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:58.280 that was as I talked about last week. The effect that happened was it 15 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:03.119 grounded a lot of trans portation. A lot of trucking was shut down because 16 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:07.079 it created complications for them and dispatchers and stuff like that. So we see 17 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:12.319 over and over again how an attack on some ancillary part of the infrastructure. 18 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:15.879 For example, the pipeline, the Colonial pipeline, they shut down their accounting 19 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:19.840 system, so then they shut down the pipeline. No oil is moving if 20 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.079 we can't get paid for it. You shut down things like the cell phone 21 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.120 system. And of course they have a lot of different apps mini truckers depend 22 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:27.799 on when they are running that, so you just shut out down all the 23 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:30.640 shipping. So it's very easy to shut down stuff by this. What you've 24 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:36.920 been looking at this and your son is kind of a computer expert as well, 25 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:38.640 a cybersecurity or something. What is your take on it? Do you 26 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:44.640 think it was a multiple choice here? Was that the solar flare was at 27 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:48.439 ransomware? Was it an AT and T upgrade or was it a hack? 28 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:55.439 What do you think? Probably a little bit of everything. Well, when 29 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:59.359 I say that, I mean it in this light. I've got a friend 30 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:05.040 who I graduated from high school with. He's a dirt, poor farm kid 31 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:10.000 like me. He ended up being a director of electronics for Lockheed for their 32 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:16.080 skunk works, and he has a program a lot of them that he looks 33 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:23.080 at he's retired now, but one of them is the measurement of solar flares. 34 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:27.479 And he warned me a couple of days ahead of time that there were 35 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:34.520 going to be some really bad X class solar storms which would interfere, most 36 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:43.360 likely with a lot of our frequency systems in the country. Second thing being 37 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:51.319 my son is he's a very intelligent boy. I had to joke he was 38 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.680 sergeant of his Marine Corps couch sniper units and I said, you survived that, 39 00:02:55.759 --> 00:03:00.560 and you've still got an IQ of one hundred and sixty five. He's 40 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:04.400 got himself a really good job. He's a very intelligent guy. He's the 41 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:08.400 cybersecurity one of the managers for a fortune five hundred company. There's only a 42 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:15.439 couple of them there, but he has a very unique perspective of what goes 43 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:19.599 on. And he said, the hacking has gotten an epidemic. It's never 44 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:23.759 going to stop, no matter what they put in for systems. And I 45 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:30.960 think the third thing that everybody is overlooking is the what I actually termed the 46 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:39.840 destruction of human productive time by technology colliding with itself. When I say technology 47 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:46.759 colliding with itself, I'm talking about such things as normal functions people use on 48 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:52.479 a computer that are constantly being updated, or they're getting to the point to 49 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:59.840 where two stage identification pingbacks. All of this are causing problems with him in 50 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:03.039 relating with other programs that they've been with. I spent an hour and a 51 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:10.039 half yesterday on the phone with my banker and I get a lot of the 52 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:15.759 They helped me out quite a bit, and it was it blew me away 53 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:23.560 what we had to go through to reconnect one particular system, and it's all 54 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:30.959 it's all from from. Some of this is necessary because of the hacking, 55 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:35.000 but I think some of it is also. I was involved with software development 56 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:42.079 one time. It was what I call the what if syndrome. People that 57 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:47.439 are working on these programs and are mrs mis directors are always saying what if 58 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:51.639 it could do this, what if it could do that? And they diffuse 59 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:58.959 their activities and in the process they think that their system is the only one 60 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:02.639 you're dealing with. So consequently, what you end up with constant changes to 61 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:10.199 programs that look simple to them and beneficial to the customer, but are total 62 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:16.240 disaster and are functioning without relating together. Yeah, I really think you probably 63 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:20.879 hit part of it. There is the I don't think so much hacking as 64 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:25.720 the solar flareres well, No, I looked at the solar flares, I 65 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:30.160 thought, well, it looks like this is more heavily focused on AT and 66 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:32.319 T than it is on other carriers, although there were several carriers that were 67 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:36.319 done, and I didn't see that anybody, even AT and T when they 68 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:40.000 came out with it, they said, well, we messed up a software 69 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:42.519 update. It's like, okay, well, if you messed up a software 70 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:45.199 update, how did that affect these other companies? And if it was a 71 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:47.720 solar flare, and you know, some people put that out, talked about 72 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:53.240 the X flare that was coming out, but then they also I think it 73 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:57.959 was Noah, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said no, it wasn't a solar 74 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:00.600 flare. So, but when you look at a solar I would expected that 75 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:05.160 just like an EMP or something, it would have affected a wider range of 76 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:09.560 hardware, and it would have been hardware based, and it would have affected 77 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:15.680 more than just primarily a handful of carriers and primarily AT and T. So 78 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:16.839 I looked at it and I thought, well, as you point out, 79 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:23.759 it certainly is a cybersecurity nightmare now and is getting worse all the time. 80 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:29.800 I just look at this stuff and what that's usually my fallback position. Somebody's 81 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:32.160 messing around with something deliberately somewhere. Now, who it is, we don't 82 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:35.720 know, right if it's a state actor, and you know, anybody can 83 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:39.439 look like anything that they want to at alt seven, we know that, 84 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:43.920 right, they got the tools to disguise themselves as Russia or North Korea or 85 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:49.079 anybody. But you know, is it done because of a criminal gang or 86 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:53.680 is it done by a state actor? That's always the things that we can 87 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:56.879 never really know when something like that is happening. But it does show the 88 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.519 vulnerability. And regardless of what happens, whether it is a physical thing or 89 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:05.680 whether it is a hack attack, whether it's done for private criminals wanting to 90 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:10.199 make money, or because of a state attacking another state, or because of 91 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:14.439 a false flag attack, that the bottom line is is that we have a 92 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:17.160 very fragile infrastructure, and it continues to get more and more fragile, doesn't 93 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:21.279 it. My god, I can't believe how we've pinted ourselves in a corner. 94 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:28.160 Yeah, we really don't have much of anything for defense. Against this 95 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:32.519 type of thing. I mean, these people have hacked everything. The postal 96 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:38.560 systems tracking service was down from what I can determine, during that time, 97 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:41.839 my mortgage company, one of the biggest, if not I think it's the 98 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:46.680 biggest in the nation. My mortgage company was down for eleven days. Somebody 99 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:50.800 got inside their system, and I don't know what all happened, whether it 100 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:56.279 was a ransomware thing, somebody wants three hundred million dollars or whatever to put 101 00:07:56.319 --> 00:08:01.160 them back online, But they were feverously working to get the system functioning again. 102 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:07.279 Yeah. I cannot believe how we painted ourselves in a corner they I 103 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:11.000 mean, you talk about dropping a nuclear bomb in this country just as bout 104 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:15.160 as bad. Yeah, shutting his computer computer systems down, don't you think? 105 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:16.360 Oh yeah. As a matter of fact, that one person I talked 106 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:20.680 too frequently about cybersecurity issues, he just goes by the name of Goatree. 107 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.720 He says, you know, when he looks at this, he's a consultant 108 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.319 that they hire him to troubleshoot this stuff. His fallback position is when something 109 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:31.639 like this happens and it's some kind of an attack or some kind of equipment 110 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.519 failure. The first thing he looks for is, okay, so what's going 111 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:39.360 on with the people who might profit from this on the inside. You know, 112 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:43.039 he typically looks at it like an inside job, not necessarily a hack 113 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.159 from the outside by a state actor or by a criminal group for ransomware, 114 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:50.919 but usually sometimes it's going to be somebody doing something on the inside because you 115 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.120 know, they're getting ready for the environment and they want to do something janitor, 116 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.879 yeah, exactly, or the CEO levels revestigated. Yeah. It's just 117 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:05.720 that's incredible. How people don't They just don't have any concept. Shut your 118 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:11.080 cell phone off for a day, you get an idea of well, what 119 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.639 is the term they have? They have a term for it. No, 120 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:20.039 it's like an abandonment complex for a baby being left outside. You know, 121 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:24.639 that's the effect it has in your mind. And it just blows me away 122 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:33.000 how absolutely critical it is that these systems that were relying on them. Yeah, 123 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:37.080 and it just blows me away. But outside of that, I'm not 124 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:41.759 any expert on X class solar flies. I just know my friend called me 125 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:46.440 out of the blue, and he's got all kinds of electronics degrees and he 126 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.879 said, look out, you know, the next couple of days, and 127 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:56.480 there were problems, not severe enough to destroy the electronics, but severe enough 128 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:03.360 to enter I've had. I wasn't electronics in the air force archaic now, 129 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:09.759 but it wasn't severe enough to destroy semiconductors. It causes a reverse current room 130 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:15.440 that's too. It blows them up. Essentially, when it comes down, 131 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:18.240 it doesn't know which way it's going in a circuit in a circuit, and 132 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.799 if it goes in and it goes in the wrong way, it'll go against 133 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:30.720 what is the normal semiconductor flow pattern and it'll burn it out. But it 134 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.799 wasn't bad enough for that, but it's bad enough to disrupt the RF signals 135 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.879 that were being sent out. Yeah, And of course, you know when 136 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.600 you and I have talked in the past about EMP and the fact that the 137 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.720 government's not doing anything to protect against that. But even just the simple stuff, 138 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:48.720 the gross neglect that we see in the border situation, and that's a 139 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.919 whole nother area there that you know, we need to be concerned about, 140 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:58.559 and that is the fact that we just have a rampant crime gangs that can 141 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:03.840 come in that type of thing. I mean, your take on the on 142 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.080 the border and the kind of threat that presents to us and the kinds of 143 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:11.159 things that we need to do to address that threat. Well, what blows 144 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:16.960 me away is I ran across something the other day we're talking about. And 145 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:22.159 I'm not picking on anybody's church, because there's plenty to pick on here. 146 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:26.600 I've never even heard of some of these organizations. Eight number one got seven 147 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:33.600 hundred forty two million dollars last year was Catholic Charities US Conference and Catholic Bishop 148 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.440 Lutheran Church got four hundred and seventy one million. I don't know what Church 149 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:46.120 World Services is. Four hundred and thirty three million. World Relief that's supposed 150 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:52.799 to be another church, four hundred and sixteen million. Hebrew Immigrant Aide Society 151 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:58.600 one hundred and eighty six million, The Episcopal Migration Ministries whatever that is, 152 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:05.000 hundred and forty six million. These people don't need anybody to put in the 153 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:09.039 offering plate anymore. I mean they have money coming in left, right and 154 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.519 center. Apparently this money is being paid by us, yes, our taxes 155 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:20.240 into the UN and being dispersed back for those people, not on any other 156 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.320 basis other than they get paid per head. I think it's three hundred dollars 157 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:28.639 a head for each person. I don't know that for sure. Yeah, 158 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.159 yeah, so it's you know, you look at this founding, you can 159 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:35.799 you know, it's a perfect perfect thing for that because they can always make 160 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.559 the case. So they're doing it out of compassion and humanitarian interest, and 161 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:45.039 yet there is also a mercenary aspect of it, and they become tools regardless 162 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:50.960 of what their motivation is. They become tools of these this whole network of 163 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:54.519 NGOs. And I guess maybe Soros is the pope of some of those churches 164 00:12:54.639 --> 00:13:00.919 or something, or fond of lying, maybe she's a pope of one of 165 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:07.559 these churches. They can say whatever they want to justify themselves. And I've 166 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:11.440 got this lunatic thinking in my family too. I'll just say it is, 167 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.360 if you want to live in a third world country, bring the third world 168 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.679 here, which is exactly what they're doing. They have no concept of what 169 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:26.639 six or thirty million people that are totally alien to our culture will do to 170 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:35.399 this culture. That's right. And I as far as the churches professing altruism 171 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:41.519 on this my last I parachuted into Zombia in nineteen seventy eight, and I 172 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:45.759 was astounded These guys said, come over here, look at this. And 173 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:50.480 I walked over to a pile of sudza. Suds's ground mealycorn. It's like 174 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:54.000 flower is to us. It's ground we to us. They grind up big 175 00:13:54.080 --> 00:14:00.440 kernels of maize corn and put water in it and cook it. And I 176 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:05.919 went over there and I just about but had false fathy would dropping the ground 177 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:13.480 I could not believe donated by World Consulate Church's Methodist Senate. That's the church 178 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:16.639 I was baptized, and that's a church I was brought up in until I 179 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:22.159 told my mom, even despite her threats to water board me, I wasn't 180 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:26.639 going anymore. And I didn't go to that church for a long time. 181 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:31.279 But I saw this, and I was furious about it. They knew exactly 182 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:35.279 where this was. This is a Communist camp, and that's where the food 183 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:39.679 was going, and they knew where it was going. And then I find 184 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:43.000 out that sixty minutes had the one full hour on this, saying somewhere around 185 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:50.600 nineteen eighty four or five. Of course, they always report the news when 186 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:56.720 their side has won and they have got another thing to bash, and it 187 00:14:56.799 --> 00:15:01.399 was bashing Christianity through this article. But they showed the same thing that I 188 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.960 saw, and my mother played the organ for fifty years into Methodist church. 189 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:09.960 I told her about this and he refused to believe me. You know, 190 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:13.240 I mean, rest her soul. She's a good woman, but she just 191 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:18.240 couldn't conceive that somebody would do this thing. So they could say whatever they 192 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:22.799 want bringing these people in. When Venezuela empties this prison system out, yes, 193 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:26.840 yea, and they're bringing them in me, it's already started to happen. 194 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:31.679 Cops were getting attacked. And we've seen this before. I grew up 195 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:35.960 in Florida. I remember when Castro emptied out his prisons and sent them into 196 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:41.320 Florida. That was nothing compared to the scope of what is happening with this. 197 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:43.679 And when you look, I've talked many times about that small, small 198 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:48.919 island in Italy where they had a population six thousand people, small island and 199 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:56.480 they brought in eighteen thousand young single males into that area that was supporting six 200 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:00.120 thousand. That's total chaos. That is completely destroyed. And that's my design. 201 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:02.720 And again, as you point out, our government is paying for it. 202 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:06.240 What do you think about what is happening at the border. I mean 203 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:10.440 I look at this, and you know, at first you can say, 204 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:15.320 well, at least the the the governors are saying, we have to take 205 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.120 some responsibility for this, and if the federal government's not going to act, 206 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:22.279 we need to do something. But they're not doing anything. I've seen Abbot 207 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:26.799 do these little, you know, displays of parking state trooper cars down at 208 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:30.559 the border and a small line. I've seen him do that kind of stuff 209 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.919 before. It's all focused on just one little town, an Eagle Pass, 210 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:37.039 right. You know, do you think that anything is going to change even 211 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:41.759 with this I was talking about this. I don't either. They're just they're 212 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:47.000 they're going through the motions. Yep, like typical politicians do. Go through 213 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:51.840 the motions, appear like you're doing something. You know who Michael Yawan is, 214 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:57.480 Oh yeah, he is very very distrustful of the Abbot. And I 215 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:07.000 tend to believe what Michael yan says because he has sources I believe that are 216 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:10.119 calling him in the middle and I tell him what, really, what's going 217 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:15.880 on? This is all purposeful. Yes, the attempts by states to stop 218 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:22.799 this certainly won't happen in Arizona, won't happen in New Mexico, they're never 219 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:26.680 going to put any kind of a border resistance or California Texas. Yeah, 220 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.559 they're going through the motions, but Eagle Paths is not going to stop these 221 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:33.960 people. No. And it's only a good two mile area there that they're 222 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:36.640 talking about, two and a half miles or something, and people have gone 223 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.160 down the border said look, there's nothing down here, you know, no 224 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:41.279 wall or big big doors on the wall and that type of thing. That's 225 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:45.119 my take on Abbott as well. And I've interviewed Michael jan in the past. 226 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:49.039 I think he is a straight shooter. I don't think that the Republicans 227 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:55.000 are straight shooters. They understand what people are concerned about and they will position 228 00:17:55.160 --> 00:18:00.279 themselves and signal that they are doing something about it, when in actuality don't 229 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.079 do anything at all about it. So it's really up to us. And 230 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.960 how is this just said to definition? You just said the definition of apologician 231 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:11.119 side. Well, unfortunately, the Democrats will do some of the stuff that 232 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:15.160 they promised to do. Well what bad stuff? Yeah, Well, if 233 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:22.160 people go to my Civil Defense manual dot com look about the latest interview I 234 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:26.279 did. I did it with a group that I support. It's a disabled 235 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:32.079 organization and a god by the name is Stan Samanski. He's a brilliant man. 236 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:37.079 Uh. He first attracted my attention by some of them. He was 237 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:42.640 a financial planner. Some of the articles he wrote about UH, the potential 238 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:49.680 for disruption of our economy attracted my attention years ago. And Uh, Stan 239 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:56.359 and we did a back and forth thing. We call it wargaming the American 240 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:02.519 apocalypse because uh and goom, Well, I don't care what you want, 241 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:06.759 it's realism. It is going to go down. There are so many issues 242 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:14.079 confronting this country that have never collectively been there. You'll hear this from anybody 243 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:21.480 with a sound mind. There's so many issues affecting this country that I can't 244 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:27.559 possibly see mathematically that one of them doesn't happen. And Jahan says there's one 245 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:37.599 hundred and some thousand plus Chinese in He will not disclose his sources, but 246 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:45.559 I believe it's probably patriotic Americans in the Justice Department, the CIA, the 247 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:49.759 Homeland Defense. There are still people in there. I think probably eighty percent 248 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:56.680 of these organizations don't like what's going on, but the hierarchy and twenty percent 249 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:00.160 of them are basically pulling all illegal things that they want to do. So 250 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:06.799 to the point being this, if there are that many people inside this country, 251 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:10.920 it's no different than having troops in a uniform. He says. They're 252 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:17.240 all intelligence, police or military people, the vast majority of them. Again, 253 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:19.680 I don't know where he gets his information, but I tend to believe 254 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:23.759 what he says. He doesn't just come out and make stories up. Oh 255 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:26.519 yeah, and we had a thing a couple of weeks ago. I didn't 256 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.039 really cover it on the show, but there was a guy who was playing 257 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:33.920 piano in a public area in the UK, and there was a group of 258 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:37.559 young Chinese that were kind of there in the background and they were talking and 259 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:41.000 everything, and they got on his video and then they realized that they were 260 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:44.799 in the field of view of his video, and they confronted him and told 261 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:47.279 him he had to delete that and all that kind of stuff, and then 262 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:51.799 he kept the camera rolling and that became a viral video. That the fact 263 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:55.839 that they would demand that they have to have anonymity because they're here with the 264 00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:59.000 Chinese government and all this, you know, that type of thing that is 265 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:02.880 happening all over the place, and we've seen the indications of that that the 266 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:06.400 Chinese are getting involved in universities and other things like that. It's it's a 267 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:11.279 very deliberate process. I've I've had quite a bit of an experience. I 268 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:14.960 come from a color crime box family. I don't have any Chinese, but 269 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:19.559 we've got Koreans and Vietnamese in my family. They're orientals. Again, you 270 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:25.680 know that's I love them or don't talk to them, depending on the way 271 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:27.079 they treat me. You know that I get along with most of them, 272 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:32.359 and it's not based on the shape of eyes or color of skin. And 273 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:36.799 I've got blocks in my family too. Point being this, Uh, the 274 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:45.680 Chinese are very xenophobic there. It amazes me. I have a good Chinese 275 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:49.839 friend, highly educated, who told me they were the original capitalists, and 276 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:55.559 I said, what, you're communists China. No, no, no, 277 00:21:55.640 --> 00:22:00.799 that's that's all. That's that's all by the wayside, no matter what tongue, 278 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:06.359 dead or anybody else, we're all capitalists at artests in our DNA And 279 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:11.359 I was astounded to hear this person tell me that's why they came up with 280 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:19.880 this marriage between capitalism and this economy they have and the Communist party is because 281 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:26.279 they can't get rid of two things in the Chinese. The Chinese secretly worshiped 282 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.759 God if most of them are Christians. And the second thing is is they 283 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:33.640 can't get this capitalism out of them, no matter how many times they execute 284 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:38.240 somebody for secretly selling cigarettes on the street or whatever. They all do it. 285 00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:41.559 And I was astounded to listen to that. But we have one hundred 286 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:45.720 thousand of them in our country. I mean, one rifle you can choot 287 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:51.480 a hole through the bottom of a transformer. This was done Medford, California, 288 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:55.920 I believe is the place they did it too. Something coordinated a spotter. 289 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:02.359 Two marksmen absolutely put a large part of the California electrical grid down. 290 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:07.960 And that was with about three or four shots from my powered rifles. We 291 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:11.759 have one hundred thousand. If only twenty five hundred of them get out and 292 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:15.400 start doing it, that's fifty people in every state. I noticed where I 293 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:21.519 lived, the power company has started positioning a vehicle outside of their transformer station. 294 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.599 That happened for about two or three weeks a month ago. Then it 295 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.920 just disappeared again. So, yeah, they heard a thread about that or 296 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.400 something. Yeah, And the problem is is that there's not a lot that 297 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:36.680 we can do about it. We can't get the government to protect the border. 298 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:38.839 And then even when you look at the government protecting the border, the 299 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:45.480 concern is are they going to set up some kind of a virtual wall that 300 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:48.200 is going to be a surveillance system. Is that then going to migrate and 301 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:49.640 to the rest of the United States? Is the wall going to be used 302 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:53.440 to keep people in? And when you look at it from just even an 303 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:59.240 economic standpoint, we have this giant welfare magnet pulling people in that can bankrupt 304 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:00.759 us. So how do we push back against this? You know, is 305 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:04.920 it going to be used as a cat's paw to get us to accept a 306 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:11.359 surveillance state, to accept a digital id in order to try to bring back 307 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:15.440 some sense of order. There's a lot of chaos that's being sown. But 308 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:22.599 what do you think is the key threat right now for America? To me, 309 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:27.039 the key threat is exactly what, well, let's put this as a 310 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:33.640 key thread. Are all of these illegals in this country that we don't know 311 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:37.880 anything about, We don't know where they are, nobody's watching them as far 312 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:44.400 as I know, And that is the key threat. They could bring our 313 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:51.480 infrastructure. You talked earlier about how dependent we are on the digital systems that 314 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:56.519 we have and power, and one of those could take out both of them. 315 00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:03.839 And that is just simply destroying transformers stations and transformers and cell sites and 316 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:07.920 this type of thing. It goes down and everything comes to a standstill. 317 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:12.359 I can imagine, but I don't want to live through what goes on after 318 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:18.559 that happened. People in this country got two or three cans of beans in 319 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:23.000 the pantry and that's it. They don't have any food. They don't have 320 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:27.519 any water stored up. And that's the first thing that's going to kill people 321 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:33.119 is a lack of water. Why because I've read story. I've been with 322 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:36.599 that water for four days. I know what it's like. You start going 323 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:41.079 out of your head. And I've read and had people tell me that they 324 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:48.359 knew people that drank motor oil just because it was fluid. It's the insanity 325 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:53.519 that takes over your head. I was close to that too. I mean 326 00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.279 it was well, I know there's the tales of people who get you know, 327 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:00.440 ship right, the ship goes down there in life and they're hoping that 328 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.799 they can get rescued or whatever some of them do, but you know, 329 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.480 they start against their better judgment. They'll drink seawater, you know, and 330 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.799 that's it. Well, we drank our five percent drip solutions. Did it 331 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:18.880 help us temporarily, but it puts you in a worse state afterwards. Yeah. 332 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:22.240 But luckily for us, I was too stupid to know what I was 333 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:26.799 doing. Luckily for us, we got out of it before too long. 334 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:33.640 But we're in such a fragile state that it actually it frightens me. I 335 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.680 think the biggest thing is an attack. I think that we don't tell me 336 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:44.480 that these people couldn't go door to door with lists of people you me included 337 00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:51.880 judges, policemen, sure of federal officials and just kill people. Yeah, 338 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:56.839 let's to stop them from doing that. I'm seeing things about the Chinese coming 339 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.319 in. I don't want to pick on them. There's plenty of ones from 340 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:06.000 other countries. They're going to shooting ranges and shooting. Now. Part of 341 00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:10.359 that is because the Orientals are deprived of guns. The Japanese they come to 342 00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:14.240 Las Vegas, they'll go to and spend four thousand dollars in a machine gun 343 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:18.799 range because they don't get to shoot or have any weapons over there. But 344 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:22.400 the point being this is that I think the biggest danger we have, immediate 345 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:29.960 danger is the possibility of a coordinated attack. And everybody's got information on who 346 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:37.720 is you know, who fits into the conservative side or traditional who's a troublemaker 347 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:44.400 like you and I. You know, that is a possibility. I prepare 348 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:47.319 for that type of thing. But the bottom line is, and you need 349 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:49.440 to too. But the bottom line is, I don't think it would be 350 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:52.599 that so much. Why should they waste their time doing that. They can 351 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:59.680 take out this system by taking the electrical grid out and that happens without people 352 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:04.519 shooting holes and transformers. That happens periodically, and of course it could happen 353 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:07.880 in slow motion. You know, we're looking at what's happening in Mexico City. 354 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:14.519 They have they're facing a massive, massive water shortage. And again it's 355 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:17.880 an urban area, so these people don't have any backup system. They don't 356 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:22.200 have any well but they can draw from or anything that They're totally dependent on 357 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.039 infrastructure. They're one of the most heavily populated cities in the world, and 358 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:30.279 they're looking at not being able to get basic water to people. And that's 359 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:37.839 what this kind of chaos. A government that doesn't have is incapable or unwilling 360 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.960 to provide an infrastructure, and then you pack people together. And this is 361 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.680 a hallmark of what is happening at the border with all of these Central and 362 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:51.640 South American countries, you know, sending up prisoners, sending up cartels, 363 00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:56.720 and I'm sure easily be very easy for the cartels to start doing incursions across 364 00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:02.359 the border. They've gotten right up to the border, having shootouts with Mexican 365 00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:06.440 federalies and that type of thing. So yeah, they've got some incredible military 366 00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:11.000 hardware too. I mean, I've seen pictures of stuff that I mean, 367 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.720 you know where it came from. It came from Afghanistan most likely there or 368 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.799 the Ukraine. There's a lot of corruption going on there. But I think 369 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:25.960 that people don't really understand the water is taken. For granted, water weighs 370 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:33.000 eight pounds per gallon. If you're going to caul five gallons of water, 371 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:41.559 you're hauling forty pounds. Water is much more difficult to keep from spoiling, 372 00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:48.519 so to speak, as bacterial growth, much more difficult to store then and 373 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:55.480 keep long term than food is. Really and people, you know, I 374 00:29:55.519 --> 00:30:00.200 feel like an insurance salesman sometimes trying to talk to people about food because they 375 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:04.519 take it to grounded water. They take it to grounded It's like an intangible, 376 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:11.119 unseeable insurance policy because not that they can't see, this is just their 377 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.319 mind can't conceive of being without them. Yeah. But and of course people 378 00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:21.960 go to the Civil Defensemanual dot com. You've got a free chapter there from 379 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:26.680 the book about water, because that is so key and so core that you 380 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.400 want people to have that information. You know, another thing too, Jack, 381 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.720 In just the last last week or so, the mainstream media has picked 382 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.279 up the case of this Amish farmer, Amos Miller. I don't know if 383 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.359 you saw that or not, but he's anything with the state Department of Agriculture 384 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.599 there. But they really want to shut down individual farms. Now, Thomas 385 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:51.079 Massey has got his Prime Act and he's taken this as an advocacy and it's 386 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:56.519 really resonated with a lot of Republicans, even with a lot of Republican officials 387 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.519 at the state level. And so now the mainstream media is pushing back against 388 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:04.480 all this stuff. It is really vital for them to keep us dependent on 389 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.440 them for their food. And so that's a key thing that you talk about 390 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:14.960 when we talk about our current food supply and how do we how do we 391 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.440 get this garden to a table type of food supply for our own benefit. 392 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:26.160 Yeah, and it's worse than garden a table. The systems they have now 393 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:32.039 you go to the grocery store and buy a loaf of bread, it's automatically 394 00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:37.720 ordering another loaf of bread before you walk out the door. So by within 395 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:42.799 probably twelve to twenty four hours at the latest, they've restocked with every loaf 396 00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:48.000 of bread that went through their cashier line. So if there were one thousand 397 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.319 loaves of bread, there's another thousand leves of bread. They're delivered probably by 398 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:57.160 two o'clock four o'clock in the morning. And in the process of this direct 399 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:04.480 from manufacture to the grocery store, there's no reserve anymore. It's it's an 400 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:09.720 absolute hand the mouse system. As far as supply, they used to have 401 00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:15.400 warehouses full of foods, and of course they would move those fairly quickly, 402 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:22.119 but it's no longer there. So there they're literally we are we are standing 403 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.920 at the end of the water pump and waiting for somebody to crank to handle 404 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.960 before we can get our couple. It's it's the way it is, and 405 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:34.359 it's way that way with food. Also, it's very disturbing to look at 406 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.759 it from that side. A lot of people don't want to realize, Hey, 407 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:44.880 we're America. We we we've never had anything like third world problems like 408 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:50.839 this. That's because your graph probably geographically more than anything, we have never 409 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:58.640 really had to face these issues. But now the illegals inside this country and 410 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:07.319 the technology that we have saddled ourselves with, yeah, are threatening to change 411 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:13.279 that. That defense we had, that geographic defense, it's no longer there 412 00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.839 people, and of course you know it's the technology has made us dependent on 413 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:19.400 it in so many different ways. Besides it just in time delivery. That 414 00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:22.880 was the first thing you and I ever talked about, all these different legs 415 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:29.079 of you know, the supply chain. We saw that busted significantly during twenty 416 00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:30.680 twenty after we had talked about it. I talked to you first time was 417 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:37.400 way way before twenty twenty. But you know, we saw a bit of 418 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.640 what happened with that. When we just had the arbitrary closure of so many 419 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:45.839 different things and even even changing the way that the products would be delivered. 420 00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:47.599 You know, you're not going to be able to go to your office and 421 00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.559 eat there in the cafeteria. You can't go there to use the restroom. 422 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.240 Those were all closed. So now we got toilet paper that's in a format 423 00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.240 that we can't get to you even as a consumer. We got food that's 424 00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:00.519 in a format we can't get to you as a consumer. All these sorts 425 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:06.720 of things. So we saw a massive you know, amounts of food being 426 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:09.800 destroyed, but people couldn't find anything on the shelf. It's so easy in 427 00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:14.000 this kind of complex system to break it, just as we saw with the 428 00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.960 cell phones and shutting down a lot of truckers because they couldn't get their cell 429 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:22.079 phone to work. So it's incredibly fragile, and I guess you know, 430 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.719 that's one of the reasons why your book is so important. I think it 431 00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:30.199 is very important for people to start to take some measures anything that they can 432 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:31.480 do from the beginning, as you pointed out, just to you know, 433 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:37.079 getting a few you know, occasionally buying cans of food and setting them aside 434 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.000 because it's going to last for quite a while. Just got anything like that. 435 00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:45.239 They can simply start storing some water. Yeah, water is the first 436 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.320 thing that's going to kill people. Either lack thereof, or drinking something that 437 00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.360 isn't pottible, something that is not safe to drink. That could be any 438 00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:57.320 water, bad water, or anything other than that. Can get water out 439 00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.400 of a stream up in the mountains that looks so crisp, so clear. 440 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.159 Oh my God, this is from God. This is God's hand has given 441 00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.039 me this water, and if you drink it, you'll be sick and a 442 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.639 dog. I've done this, I've been through it. I think that the 443 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:15.760 funny thing is we are so abundant here. My wife being from Zimbabwe, 444 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:23.119 Africa, formerly Rhodesia, she still is amazed to go find a tube of 445 00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:30.840 toothpaste because there are forty fifty different types of toothpaste. What kind you want? 446 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.239 What fever do you want? What consistency do you want? Jelly? 447 00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:38.480 You want a paste? And she has never gotten over there. She's been 448 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:44.920 in his country forty years, and she is blown away because she's been back 449 00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:49.480 to Africa and you go to this toothpaste section, there's maybe one tube, 450 00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:52.480 or there isn't any there, or they've got baking soda set in place to 451 00:35:52.639 --> 00:36:01.400 use. It's a mindset that's caused Americans to think that were invulnerable we're invincible. 452 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:07.079 We can't have these things happen, and we've set ourselves up for a 453 00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:12.840 fall with all this digitized infrastructure. So now you're talking about a Disneyland mentality 454 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:16.480 that people have that everything's going to be just fine, right, yeah, 455 00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:23.440 yeah, until it isn't. That's right. In simple math. Being in 456 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:30.079 Las Vegas. I'll never forget the guy Jimmy the Greek. He was a 457 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:34.159 odds maker who was very, very popular, and he made a statement it 458 00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.719 was just pretty much a maximum mathematics. Now, the further you are from 459 00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:44.360 the point of something happening, the more probability you have that it will happen. 460 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:51.360 And we have gone for what seventy eighty years, we've never had our 461 00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.599 food system, which consists in most people's mind of the grocery store. Now 462 00:36:55.639 --> 00:37:00.159 it's pre packaged, delivered food or restaurant. We've never had any of those 463 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:06.280 fail us, that's right, and we've really become kind of kind of helpless, 464 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.039 kind of like Eloy or something. Karen and I went to New Zealand 465 00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:15.159 nineteen ninety eight and we went on a jet boat ride that they had there. 466 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.360 That's one thing that they kind of developed there because they're shallow streams and 467 00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:22.440 stuff, but they would take down these canyon walls where there were you know, 468 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.360 rocks and everything. They go really fast, and he has, Oh, 469 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.400 you're Americans, Well, let me explain this to you. He says, 470 00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:31.760 this is not this is not a ride at Disneyland. He said, 471 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:36.280 if we're going towards something and it looks like you're going to hit your head, 472 00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.159 duck because you're going to hit your head. I was like, Wow, 473 00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:43.199 that's the way the world sees us. And I guess really he's kind 474 00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:45.280 of right about that, because, you know, we really do believe that 475 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:49.000 everything's going to be just fine. We're going to be taking care of. 476 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.480 Everything's been thought of, and everything is planned out, and that's not the 477 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:53.880 way the world world works, you know, and you find that out, 478 00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:57.639 you get the punch in the face. Yeah, learned. I learned this 479 00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:01.320 from you. I think a couple of interviews ago, you made a statement 480 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:07.119 that people driving in the Third World, they don't have any line down the 481 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:09.320 center of the road, any dotted line, you know, they don't have 482 00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:13.639 a line on the outside, a white one that tells them hey, you're 483 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:15.559 too far to the right, too far to the left, or whatever. 484 00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:22.000 They don't have that type of thing, and consequently they are alert for other 485 00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:27.079 drivers. They don't even have stop hunt. I remember driving in the mountains 486 00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.199 on an island called Rowtown and Honduras, and I had to pick up I 487 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:36.960 rented and I came roaring around the corner. They've set rocks up. The 488 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.719 road washed out, so they set rocks up, no worrying signs, nothing. 489 00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:46.519 I went over the hill and I'm barely missed the rocks. But you 490 00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:51.960 brought the point up, which is very valid that Americans have so much of 491 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.079 this drawn out that has become mindless for us. Even drive, you got 492 00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.800 a light that tells you to stop. Even if you go through that green 493 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:05.519 light and there's a car from the right coming towards you, most Americans would 494 00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:08.679 look to the right and say, look at that damn fooling towards me. 495 00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:12.480 You know, you've got a t bone me. You know, instead of 496 00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:19.320 putting the brakes on. We've just become way too complacent with all of the 497 00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:23.000 issues that are are hand delivered to us. And and take take the fear 498 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:27.239 of and I have a sense of entitlement. I've got the right of way. 499 00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.679 Oh you're going to be dead right, you know about this thing if 500 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:35.599 you don't pay attention to it. But even to the extent that that you 501 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:37.280 know, now, the sense of entitlement extends to the fact, well, 502 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.599 you better not say anything that offends me, you know. I mean, 503 00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:45.000 I'm supposed to be protected from any contingency, even from hearing harmful things, 504 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:49.960 you know. I mean, it's just we have become so so pacified, 505 00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:54.280 so controlled, and we demand safety over everything else. And yet it's not 506 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:59.000 safe at all if you are not aware of your surroundings and if you don't 507 00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:01.840 have the ability to be able to provide for yourself. That's why I like 508 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:07.679 to recommend Civil Defense Manual, because that's a good place for people to start. 509 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.519 You've got a lot of different areas where people can start, whether you're 510 00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:13.920 talking about food or water, where you're talking about defense, whether you're talking 511 00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:16.719 about organizing and a community. That's something we need to do, even for 512 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:22.199 a political standpoint, to start organizing at the local level. You know, 513 00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:24.840 people talking about Christian nationalism. I said, no, talk about Christian localism. 514 00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:29.000 You know, you need to build from the ground up. This book 515 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:32.880 will save people's lives. I've gotten into a battle in my family. I've 516 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:38.320 got a big family. I've got like fifty five cousins and grandchildren, nieces, 517 00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:43.239 nephews, all that. That's why I got rid of my iPhone because 518 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.639 the texting was driving me crazy. They all think uncle Jackson cats mayow. 519 00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:51.320 Well, I don't want to hear. I don't want to hear everybody's life 520 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:58.119 story all day. So I've gotten into a battle in my family, and 521 00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:02.519 that battle is over freedom speech. And I'm not going to take the liability 522 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:10.000 for telling you listening listeners this. But I refuse to shut my mouth about 523 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:14.599 things. If somebody brings something up, I will counter it right there. 524 00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:19.320 I Am not going to let tyranny rule over my family. When you've got 525 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.199 an obnoxious brother in law looking at you like, oh my god, you 526 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:27.360 got to you know, it's like you're holding up pir of a dead fish 527 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.880 up in your fingers, you know, and it's smell like terrible, you 528 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:36.239 know. And we don't talk about things like that around here. Well maybe 529 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.440 you don't, but I do because you guys brought it up. You know, 530 00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:44.239 I've started doing it. I get into it with my wife because she's 531 00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:50.679 English and she's a person that's used to being reserved and polite, and which 532 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.679 most people in the world to degree are that way much more than Americans. 533 00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:59.760 We're pretty outspoken. But we're stopping that and I'm going the other way. 534 00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:02.079 Now. Yeah, they want to intimidate you. They want to intimidate you, 535 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:06.920 and and if you you know what the you know what they don't want 536 00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:09.760 you to say, and you can't self censor yourself. You know, that's 537 00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:15.079 gotten me in a lot of trouble. That's got a lot of trouble with 538 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.320 all the social media, the YouTube and all the rest. They because I'm 539 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:20.800 not going to sell censor if I'm going to talk about the vaccines. I'm 540 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:22.840 not going to use a euphemism, you know, I'm just going to tell 541 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:24.679 you what this thing is. The vaccine is going to do this and that 542 00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:29.360 to you, I'm not going to you know, dance around the topic like 543 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.280 that. And so as a result, you get banned for doing that. 544 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:35.239 But you know that, to me, that is the worst thing that we 545 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.599 can do. It's what Soulsey Nisen was saying. You know, don't live 546 00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:42.480 by lies. Even if they're going to and you know pressure you on this, 547 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:47.199 You've got to speak the truth. As you know, it and and 548 00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:52.840 not uh, you know, deliberately live by a lie in order to please 549 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.000 other people. And I think right now where we are is with the pronouns, 550 00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:58.880 you know, I mean the pronounce How ridiculous is that? But that's 551 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:04.119 that's a good example. I started to support an organization at one point until 552 00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.159 I got woke up. I don't know why I didn't see this in the 553 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:12.800 first email, but the director sent me. I took this personal lunch. 554 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.840 I was interested in helping these young kids that were being bullied at school because 555 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:21.159 I was terribly bullied at school. A lot of people, Oh yeah, 556 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:25.679 But I started saying to her, she he they it programmed pronouns and uh. 557 00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:31.199 I just cut it off right there. I couldn't understand why this person 558 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:37.920 was using this refuge type thing. And I think they're doing more. They're 559 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:44.360 they're trying to, I think, in doctrinate these kids. You don't know 560 00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:47.039 your sexuality, that's right. They want to confuse it. Yeah, we 561 00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:51.760 were all bullied in school, but now the kids are are bullied in gas 562 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:53.880 lit you know, yeah, and groomed, you know, that's that's the 563 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:57.400 word. They just added that to it, and they're still being bullied. 564 00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.280 Over the pronouns and other things like that, just in a day, different 565 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:01.800 way and by a different group of people. The people at the top are 566 00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:08.599 blame them, right right. Most of the people I graduated with haven't been 567 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:13.119 more than five hundred miles from home. I've been all over the world, 568 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:19.800 and I'll never regret whatever they think they have and what I've had and seen 569 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.400 through my eyes and heard and felt going around the world. But going, 570 00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:27.360 let me go back to one thing. You're talking about that farmer, that 571 00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:32.440 Amish farmer in famous Midsylvania. Yeah, I mean, what is that raw 572 00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:37.880 milk is going to maybe kill somebody? You know, the government has a 573 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:43.480 monopoly on death. They can give you a vaccine and try to force you 574 00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:47.079 to take it, and well we can kill you with something that wasn't even 575 00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:51.840 tested. But boy, you can't have raw milk. Yeah. I come 576 00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:55.360 from a farm that we milked a lot of cows. I don't know. 577 00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:59.800 I'm seventy seven. I think I'm pretty healthy. It might be dead to 578 00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:02.920 more. But the bottom line is I drank raw milk all the time. 579 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:09.239 And what's bad about it, I don't know. But somebody's conjured this up 580 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:14.400 and government, if they're there they need to control. They don't feel like 581 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.960 they're complete and the day has when the sun goes down and they haven't gone 582 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.960 in and rousted somebody and told somebody the way it is. They don't feel 583 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:29.599 like they had a productive day. And that may sound a little bit opinionated, 584 00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:34.239 but it is my opinion of government. At least in other countries. 585 00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:38.000 Governments usually stay away from you. You either bribed them. They're all taking 586 00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:43.000 money under the counter. And I'll admit I've done it. I've gotten a 587 00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:46.039 friend out of getting arrested by the Thai police one time. It was a 588 00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:52.440 lieutenant colonel and I went over and gave a shook hands money with the lieutenant 589 00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:55.679 when the tourist police and said, look, I'll take him home. He 590 00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.880 didn't really mean anything but that I took him home, told him to stay 591 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:06.360 side and shut your mouth because he was criticizing the King of Thailand. And 592 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:08.960 and that can get you, Yeah, that can get you in some serious 593 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:15.559 trouble. I've seen in Australian about six' five with about fifteen or twenty 594 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:22.159 ties beating the ever living daylights out of him just because he made a smart 595 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.960 remark and shouldn't have and you just learn to keep your mouth shut about the 596 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.639 king. He was a great guy. I mean, he took care of 597 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.880 that country. So I don't I'm not advocating type of government, but he 598 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:37.559 did what he needed to do first people, and you keep your mouth shut 599 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:39.760 about it. You're in there kind of just like if somebody comes to my 600 00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:44.880 living room, don't start telling me how ugly my artwork looks, you know, 601 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:49.559 even though I drew it, you know. But anyway, I just 602 00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:53.559 think it's incredible that they did what they did with this farmer. And of 603 00:46:53.559 --> 00:47:00.760 course with your experience and so many different places, and of course you have 604 00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:06.159 you've seen communism and action and of course a chant GPT and the Google. 605 00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:09.400 Jim and I say, you can't criticize communism. That's not allowed, you 606 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:14.719 know, but we know what it really is and you've experienced it firsthand. 607 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:20.639 You mentioned an encounter that you had with somebody from Cambodia and phenomen Penn talk 608 00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:27.159 a little bit about that. Well, I want all through Southeast days I 609 00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.920 stay. I don't know how long I stayed there, but when you go 610 00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:34.920 to these countries, you obviously if you've got the money, you stayed in 611 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:37.519 a nice place. I stayed in probably the nicest hotel. I think it 612 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:44.639 was seven or eight stories high in phenomen Pen and I was sitting there one 613 00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:47.840 evening. I didn't drink. I don't drink anymore, but I didn't drink 614 00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:52.440 any alcohol. I was having a cup of tea and I'm looking across the 615 00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:57.199 Maykong River, which is probably a mile and a half wide there, and 616 00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.639 I'm astoundher. It comes out of Vietnam and wanders up into Cambodia, I 617 00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:06.760 think, in the layoffs, and I'm sitting there looking at it, so 618 00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:13.159 peaceful. The people were so extremely nice. I had to think back to 619 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.639 when the Kimmera Rouge took over in nineteen seventy six. In three years, 620 00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:24.119 the Kimme Rouge Communists killed, if anybody can believe this, one point seven 621 00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:30.159 million people, one third of their population. Wow. And it was crazy 622 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:34.840 because they were trying to get rid of anyone educated. So if you wore 623 00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:40.320 a pair of glasses and you were taken as being an educated person, because 624 00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:45.559 most people over there now somebody had bad eyesight and an organization or somebody got 625 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:51.760 them glasses. A person could have no education. But they took these people 626 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:57.719 out and the swamp areas north of phenomen Penda, and it was a place 627 00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:02.920 called the Killing Fields, huge long swamp area, and they wouldn't put a 628 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.199 bullet in the back of your head. They were getting rid of all the 629 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:12.440 intellectuals everybody, and they were getting it down to the peasants. And it 630 00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.599 was going to be a totally farming country. There was going to be no 631 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.599 attorney's offices, none of this. And they did a pretty good job. 632 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:25.400 One point seven million people were killed by executioners putting a plastic bag over their 633 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:30.199 head, suffocating him to death, down to kids that were three months old. 634 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.880 Where do you find this stuff? You can go to a place called 635 00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:39.039 toll Slang. It was a school they tortured to death seventeen thousand people in 636 00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:45.599 there who were their jailers. Most of them were young twelve thirteen, fourteen 637 00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:51.840 year old kids. People were killed there, but the majority of them. 638 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.800 And I'm sitting there and I can't believe. And I have this exceptionally nice 639 00:49:55.840 --> 00:50:01.960 waiter, and I asked a guy what's I'm stand for and he says, 640 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:07.039 it means the City of four Faces, And I thought, well, that's 641 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:16.440 pretty that's pretty uh, that's pretty much justly represents what happens with humanity. 642 00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:22.199 People don't think anything like that can happen in your society. Those people went 643 00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:30.639 from being that pleasant person to the evil faces went on and the executioners came 644 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:37.119 out and it didn't stop until they killed one third of their population. That'd 645 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:43.000 be like us killing off one hundred and ten million Americans. And it devastated 646 00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.880 the country. It set them so far back. But you go over there 647 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:52.480 now and people in Vietnam don't remember anything. Almost the most of the mere 648 00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:58.000 in their thirties and forties. And I was just totally astounded how that could 649 00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:00.960 happen. And I've seen this other place and we think we're immune from this. 650 00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:05.760 I hope it never comes, but people can't put it out of their 651 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:09.599 mind. Food store, food store, water, buy yourself a shotgun and 652 00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:17.199 five hundred rounds of shotguns, shell double out buck and some slug and I'm 653 00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:23.079 not I used to say, go get yourself something for protection, but some 654 00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:29.360 people think protection is having pepper spray. That's not going to do you any 655 00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:34.480 good, you know you. Unfortunately, if it comes down to defending yourself, 656 00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:39.480 the most efficient item is a firearm, and you need to have everybody 657 00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:42.880 in your family know how to run it. But you need water, you 658 00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.320 need food and medicines, and you can go on and on. What you 659 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:50.039 need to do is get together with your neighbors. Know who in the hell 660 00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:54.400 is around you, because you if things go bad, are going to need 661 00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:59.800 other people to help defend your area, to keep some civility, to keep 662 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.760 you people from getting harmed by gangs and whatnot, which is going to be 663 00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:06.360 the first threat. But yeah, yeah, that's right. That's what I 664 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:09.199 like about your book. It's it talks about the psychology of getting together in 665 00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:13.000 a group. You know, things to do that are good, things to 666 00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.320 do that are not good in it, and and that is very important, 667 00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:20.559 especially now that the government has it started focusing on Well, if you've got 668 00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:22.320 a group of people and they got rifles, they're militia and they're bad, 669 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:25.239 and they're a threat to us and their sovereign citizens or whatever labels they want 670 00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:30.960 to hang on people like that, it's very important that I get around that 671 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:36.039 in the book, and I specifically go in to the definition of militia. 672 00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:40.880 And people are forming their their what they're called I call neighborhood guardians. That's 673 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:47.440 right for the defense only of their area. And it blows me away how 674 00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:55.199 some of the people that think they're traditional now and conservative have been so propagandized 675 00:52:55.239 --> 00:53:00.440 over the years in oh, you can't do that, that's against the law. 676 00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:05.440 Well not really. Because I sat in the police board, I got 677 00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:08.719 a pretty good idea which obstruction of traffic and obstruction of law enforcement and that 678 00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:12.679 type of thing. Let me tell you something, if things go sideways, 679 00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:15.840 which they will. If they go sideways, people are going to end up 680 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:20.599 in their neighborhoods they control, their area. Law enforces is going to love 681 00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:23.199 them one less area to go in and deal with. Yeah, oh yeah, 682 00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:25.360 that's right. And that's the other side of this, you know, 683 00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:32.239 it's I interviewed a long time ago she Van Fleet and Tucker just interviewed her 684 00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:36.719 talking about her book Mao's America. She said, I went through all this 685 00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:39.480 stuff you call woke now. She said that struggle sessions and the you know, 686 00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:43.559 the self denouncement and all this other kind of stuff that they're now doing 687 00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:45.719 in universities and teaching people like that. She said that was all done. 688 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:50.599 You know, when she's wanting Americans what this looks like, and it's true. 689 00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:53.159 All the stuff that you talked about with Cambodia. That was what mal 690 00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:58.280 was doing with his cultural revolution. He was executing intellectuals. He wanted everybody 691 00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.480 to be in agriculture, all that type of thing. And so we see 692 00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.039 that. But then on the other side, one of the things that I'm 693 00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.320 concerned about, of course, is all the talk when we see at Seapak 694 00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:08.239 all these people, well, if we lose the election, looks like it's 695 00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:13.760 a civil war. Everybody seems like on both sides of this are being primed 696 00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.519 to come after each other. And we're at a time, you know, 697 00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:20.719 like about every eighty years, you know, everybody gets antsy and they change 698 00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:25.119 all the institutions and have a big financial crisis. But everybody is primed to 699 00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:30.519 come after other people. It seems like the way this country is being divided 700 00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:35.159 very very concerning to me. That is as concerning as what is happening at 701 00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:40.400 the border. To me. This techno I blame most of this attitude is 702 00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:46.800 polarization on the technology, and one of the worst violators is Facebook. Yep. 703 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:52.559 People have learned to say things over a computer that they wouldn't say in 704 00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:58.800 front of you to your faith because you would punch their snout through the back 705 00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:00.639 of their skull. That's right, you know, to put it crudely, 706 00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:05.599 people would not put up with his face to face. So what they do 707 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:09.519 is they read this, they're angry, and it builds a pressure up in 708 00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:15.719 him, just like it does kids when you have a zero tolerance policy. 709 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.880 My football coach, our gym coach used to take us to the wrestling room 710 00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:23.800 and we would have what we call murder bawl, and it would be the 711 00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:27.400 kids in the class, all of us kids in the class. The divide 712 00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.400 him into two halves and one of eat and it's padded in this room, 713 00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:34.400 and he throw a soccer ball out there, and the point was to get 714 00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:39.400 the ball and touched the wall and the opposite in and of course while everybody's 715 00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:44.800 looking for the ball, there's usually three or four guys over there punching it 716 00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:46.519 out because they don't like each other, you know, and they get it 717 00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:51.119 out of their system. We didn't bring firearms to school and shoot each other, 718 00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:53.719 so it's like the gun free zone. This type of zero tolerance, 719 00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:57.960 it's just on the opposite of what it should do. And you know, 720 00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:02.480 I'll never be able to argue that was the teachers in my family because they 721 00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:07.559 got PhDs. They can't tie their shoes, but they got PhDs. You 722 00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.039 know, it's piled higher and deeper. Yeah, that's the key thing. 723 00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:15.519 You know. The technology is isolating us from each other from human contact, 724 00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:19.840 doing that so they can monitor and surveil everything that we do. But as 725 00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.599 you point out the other side of that, that comes along with this isolations 726 00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.599 that when we do interact with other people, we don't see them as human 727 00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:32.920 and so it builds up this animosity because we're at a distance. And it's 728 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:37.599 just the I don't know. It just seems like everything that is being done 729 00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:42.960 to us now is being done to heighten division, to sow chaos. And 730 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:45.400 whether it's the border or whether it's what is happening inside the border, it 731 00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:49.519 seems like it is all compounding. Well, it's been great talking to you, 732 00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:52.800 and again, I love your book Civil Defense. Manuel had a guy 733 00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:57.119 who picked it up. He said that is worth one thousand dollars. You 734 00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:00.480 know, so he said, I love the information that's in there. You 735 00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:02.760 saw it as a pair. But I would encourage people to go to the 736 00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:07.079 website sovil Eventsmanual dot com. You've got interviews there. You've got articles that 737 00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:12.360 are there, You've got excerpts from the manual that are there. A great 738 00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:15.440 resource. People always say, well, you know what can I do about 739 00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:16.679 this? We need to be able to take action. We need to be 740 00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:20.719 able to do this as individuals and as a community. That is the key 741 00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.039 thing. And you've got a lot of answers in that book, and you've 742 00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:28.880 got a lot of experts who have chimed in on that that you've created great 743 00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:32.119 resources there. Always great talking to you, Jack, good to talk to 744 00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.920 you, David. Take care, thank you, thank you very much. 745 00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:54.239 The David Knight Show is a critical thinking super spreader. If you've been exposed 746 00:57:54.280 --> 00:58:02.360 to logic by listening to The David Knight Show, please do your part and 747 00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:09.639 try not to spread it. Financial support or simply telling others about the show 748 00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:19.199 causes this dangerous information to spread. 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