WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:10.720 It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for ignition with the 2 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:16.440 aaw fan Hub podcast team. This is Kelson and Alex. Our usual co 3 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:22.800 host is on assignment eating cheese in Wisconsin, and uh well he'll be back 4 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:26.320 next week. Anyway, let's start the show, and I guess the best 5 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:31.640 place to start off is for me to personally thank Tony Kahn for screwing up 6 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:36.359 the entire Internet. Thank you so much, Tony, Jesus, I wish 7 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:41.079 you well. You know this is supposed to be it's it's I mean, 8 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:44.640 I don't know what you guys feel about this, but in my personal opinion, 9 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:49.200 this is the whole neck brace thing. Yeah, the Harvey Weinstein thing 10 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:53.719 was kind of a low blow, but Harvey Weinstein did a lot of low 11 00:00:53.719 --> 00:01:03.119 blows, no pun intended. Yeah, let's go there. Anyway, Look, 12 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:07.120 it's silly. The whole kfe deck brace thing was silly, stupid. 13 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:11.439 I don't know how you feel about it, but man, the Internet rustling 14 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:15.000 community lost heir shit over it. Did Tony con take it too far? 15 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:19.480 I think that's the only thing he went overboard was with the and the Weinstein 16 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:25.000 comment that probably could have been left off but I mean it's not like it's 17 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:29.799 not deserved, but you know, it's just I think the whole net brace 18 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:33.799 thing, I thought that was perfect. Yeah, people said there, if 19 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:37.040 you had just stuck with the pepsi thing, the pepsi analogy to coke, 20 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:42.959 that would have been perfect, but they went there. I think Tony sometimes 21 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:48.640 gets a little pissed about everything that everybody always says about aw and he kind 22 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:51.879 of like, most of the time, let's it go, but this one 23 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:53.959 time he says, you know what, I'm gonna have fun with this shit. 24 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:59.920 Yeah. I mean, look, I'm a moderator at the aw fat 25 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:06.719 subreddit, and by and large the subreddit is just a wonderful place to be. 26 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:10.599 I mean, we have really good discussions both positive and negative about AW. 27 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:15.159 We welcome it all as long as people could be civil. When he 28 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:19.639 wore that run back brace and put to Harvey Weinstein's name out there in relation 29 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:25.319 to WWE, holy hell, I wouldn't wor stanut on my worst enemy. 30 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:30.879 You wouldn't believe the dumb ass things that people in the Internet wrestling community will 31 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:38.159 say when they feel just a little bit threatened about their baby. Stop crying, 32 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:49.039 it's up. I mean, it's pro wrestling, Like the hell are 33 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:53.520 you moaning and whining about? You know, look, people are expecting, 34 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:59.639 you know, with all the all the promotion, that aw got a different 35 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:00.800 place. And I want to hear what you guys think about this, that 36 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:06.280 they're ratings are all of a sudden going to skyrocket. I call bullshit on 37 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.639 that. They're not gonna skyrocket. It's going to help, it's going to 38 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:15.840 get people interested in it. But it's gotta be something that's ongoing, you 39 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:17.520 know. But they're gonna have Tony Hannor and a net grace. You need 40 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:23.199 to make sure he's selling it and not moving around his head so much. 41 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:25.960 And he needs to sell it a little bit more. And but what when 42 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:30.000 you listen Okay, when you listen to Pat back, if he would you 43 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:35.840 agree that him and his co host were laughing at the good natured silliness of 44 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:39.479 this whole thing. Yes, you drat me anymore, But I think the 45 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:44.520 only one that took the wrong way. And when one you try to get 46 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:49.719 it the other the wrong way, we're Bischoff and bob Berat and Cornett. 47 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:53.680 They're the ones that were like, this is so stupid that I'm thinking to 48 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:58.199 myself, Bischoff, you did the same stupid thing thirty five years ago. 49 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:06.000 What the hell are you bitching for it? Shot faster? Yeah, in 50 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:10.680 its core, at its court, wrestling is stupid, it's silly, it's 51 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:15.759 harmless fun. I think that this just proves how much actually the diming was 52 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:19.040 perfect. If you think about it. Tony knew he was going to be 53 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:25.120 on national TV for three days straight, and they did this perfect. There 54 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:28.279 was no better way to get free publicity. He didn't have to pay for 55 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:33.480 it. Yeah, you know that says right there. I'm kind of surprised 56 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:36.839 though, that the NFL let Tony Kahan wear that eck brace on TV. 57 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:41.680 Well, look, while we're being honest here, look, you brought up 58 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:50.759 Eric Bischoff, you brought up Dudley, you brought up uh yeah, you 59 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:57.279 brought up those three guys. Okay, these guys sit down and they they 60 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:00.480 literally think to themselves, we're not going to talk about wrestling tonight. We're 61 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:04.800 going to talk about stuff that will rattle, rile up the internet wrestling community. 62 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:09.680 And the sad thing is that people buy into the stupidity. Wrestling at 63 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:15.040 its core is silly, it's stupid, it's entertainment. It's not to be 64 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:19.560 taken seriously. These guys take stupid and silly to a whole other level. 65 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:27.600 I'm sorry, but if you are a Jim Cornett, Eric Bischoff and whatever 66 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:32.879 Dudley he is, they are performers. That is it. They are performers. 67 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:41.040 They take the silliness and stupidity and the craziness of professional wrestling add to 68 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:46.519 it. That's all they're doing, and people take it so seriously well that 69 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.879 that therein is where you lies. The problem is people take them too seriously 70 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:56.319 because they take themselves so seriously. I think it comes down to with Cornett 71 00:05:56.399 --> 00:06:00.879 and Bishoff is that they believe that what they do or what they say should 72 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:04.399 be be all end all of what goes on, and if you don't agree 73 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:10.319 with them, you're wrong. In the heart of things. In the heart 74 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:15.959 of things, Bischoff is a promoter. He's a terrible promoter, right, 75 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:19.279 but he's a promoter. Jim Cornett is a successful promoter. He knows what 76 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:26.120 he's doing. And I guarantee you that after the shows he sits back and 77 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:30.040 looks at the different comments that are made on Twitter and read it and on 78 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.920 YouTube that are attributed to him, and he's like, look at these stupid 79 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:39.920 idiots, because he's like the pied piper. He's leading them into the he's 80 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:46.800 leading him into the ocean to drown. I mean, he has these morons 81 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:49.720 wrapped around his little finger. And I'm sorry, but it's the truth. 82 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:56.720 I don't understand it because they are so freaking serious about this stuff, and 83 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:01.759 it's like it's it's freaking professor wrestling. But that's what they do. They 84 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:04.839 find something to talk about, like Kevin Nash has been saying it and stuff 85 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:08.800 like like I don't care about your opinion. You're in the past. Oh 86 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:13.360 yeah. They know exactly what to say, you know. And they're entertainers. 87 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:18.079 Jim Cornett is an entertainer, you know. Eric Bischoff thinks she's an 88 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:24.920 entertainer. Ericshof's a moron. But anyway, because he has absolutely no right 89 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:31.480 to say anything critical about anything, he killed a she's I mean, come 90 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:35.680 on, it's it's a sad reflection on life. Now. This is how 91 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:41.000 people are anymore. They you don't people A lot of people don't form their 92 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.759 in an opinion. They have to find somebody else's opinion to follow. And 93 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:48.439 that's just sadly what problem is a lot of times with society and everything today, 94 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:56.600 and it's just it's it's especially in something that is as as big as 95 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:58.560 it is, but it's not you know what I mean, it's kind of 96 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:03.319 like a small feel to what wrestling is and and there's it's kind of like 97 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:09.480 a small knit I don't want to say a close knit family that is there, 98 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.040 but you you're it's more than amplified because of the closeness of the of 99 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.240 the community. You haven't said anything. I want to hear what you have 100 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:22.839 to say. Oh well, I was enjoying listening your heart. Yeah. 101 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:30.800 Yeah. The the Internet is an echo chamber, so yeah, everybody forms 102 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:37.159 their ideas on what everybody else says. But I had a theory about Kenny 103 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:46.320 Omega coming back and it ties in with Tony Khan. Where if Kenny is 104 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:52.399 going to be the the spokesperson, let's say, for Tony Khan while Tony 105 00:08:52.519 --> 00:09:03.120 is injured and can't travel, Suppose that Tony himself is kind of having a 106 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:11.000 heel turn and he is going to and and he is actually doing it now 107 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:18.200 before our eyes, kind of leaning into bad Tony Khan and kind of going 108 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:28.240 down the road where Matthew and Nicholas have traveled before, and Kenny is going 109 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.440 to come back and kind of be like, oh, you know, you 110 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:37.320 all thought I was gonna come here and play nice. You know I'm gonna 111 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:43.639 come in here and run wild at behest of Tony, And you know it's 112 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:46.240 just gonna be a whole lot of nonsense, but in a good way. 113 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:52.639 And I think it's gonna be funny. And I think that with Tony Khan 114 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:58.240 and that neck brace, I thought the neck brace was hilarious. I also 115 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:05.240 think that he's in a position where he could never win. When he takes 116 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:13.200 the high road and doesn't respond to critics or potshots that are taken by other 117 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:20.799 wrestling promotions, then everyone calls him a nerd and says he's weak minded and 118 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:26.720 he's just spending his dad's money. He doesn't know what he's doing. So 119 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:33.919 then when he gets down and dirty like everyone else does, he's doing too 120 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:37.399 much and he's not a nice guy. So no matter what he does or 121 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.399 says, he's not gonna win. If I was him, I would have 122 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:46.919 talked trash too. I mean, I don't own ae W. I'm just 123 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:52.320 a fan and I've had quite enough of the trash talking of ae W. 124 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:56.279 I go places, and you know, somebody will say, you know, 125 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:01.600 oh you like wrestling because I've got on some independent wrestling shirt or something, 126 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:03.039 and oh yeah, oh well, what else do you watch? Oh? 127 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:09.440 I watch aw? Oh you watch that crap? Yeah for Pete's saying, 128 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:11.879 you know, I'm in I'm in the grocery store, you know, and 129 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:16.679 and that's it gets exhausting. Let alone, you know, being on the 130 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.759 internet. I've avoided the Internet because I know there's a lot of morons on 131 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:26.679 there who were just going crazy over this Tony Kahan stuff. But I know 132 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.039 it, I know, I know. I'm kind of hoping though, for 133 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.600 like he ol Kenny. I hope he's dyed his hair dark again and he's 134 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.320 just gonna be bad. Yeah, Nett, you know, look, you're 135 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:43.559 You're absolutely right about, you know, stand off the internet. Unfortunately, 136 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.879 I can't do it. I can't tell you how many times I have seen 137 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.279 people posting on the AW fan hub subreddit, and I'm sure the other subreddits 138 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:56.159 are like this and other fan sites and you know Twitter accounts and whatever. 139 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:01.679 You know, people just flooding them with You guys are pathetic. You know, 140 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:07.519 you know, calling Tony Kan a clown spending his dad's money like you 141 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:11.039 said, things like that, and you know, all that's doing is proving 142 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:16.360 to me and it should be proving to Tony khankause Look, there's no such 143 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:18.559 thing as bad press. The only bad press is no press at all. 144 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.480 There are no reactions at all. You know, just by coming on to 145 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.879 just by coming on to a w fan hub to say that y'all are pathetic. 146 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:35.120 Guess what we win, you lose. It's a sim as that you 147 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:39.879 lost. And to the point where you know, you said, you see 148 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:45.120 people and they tell you you watch that crap, keep you ninety nine point 149 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:48.759 nine percent of the people to tell you that have never watched aw and have 150 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.879 no idea what really happens there. They have based on what they see other 151 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:58.519 people say on the internet, or based on what they hear from the jokers 152 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.080 that have no clue what they're talking about. And that's the problem, that's 153 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.679 where they all. They always do that. Because I've talked to people they 154 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:07.960 say the same exact thing, Well, this is true. If you watch 155 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:13.679 it, no, then shut up. That's simple. It comes down to 156 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.759 I have no problem with letting them run their lips to a point. But 157 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:22.679 my personality is the kind of personality that I'm going to clap back. But 158 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.480 I don't ever like I bring back fact. He can't argue with fact. 159 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:30.960 I'm sorry, you can't facts your facts. Yeah, you know what I 160 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:33.919 mean. And you can sit there and say, well, this is stupid. 161 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:37.360 No, no, And he's spending his dad's money. Really, can 162 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:39.639 you prove that? Show me, show me where his dad's money is the 163 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:43.799 one that's funding this. I think Tony's got his own money. You don't 164 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.519 care, you know what I mean. Like him and his dad are to 165 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.200 the richest men in the world, so you know. And it comes down 166 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:54.960 to is it's like everything else in any other sector of life, you're gonna 167 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:58.000 have this. Like you said, it's an echo chamber. More people are 168 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:07.240 going to have an opinion that is echoed by everybody else actually doesn't think about 169 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:11.279 or talk about what they're thinking about or look into it. They don't research 170 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:15.360 anything. Yeah, you're going to have that, I mean. And like 171 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:20.720 you said, no press, good press. There is no bad press unless 172 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.879 you're not getting any. However, However, there are people who do think 173 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:28.440 that this is wrong and that Tony Kahan is a clown. And that's okay 174 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:35.639 because when they express their opinion on say the aw fat up subreddit, they 175 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:43.080 actually make an effort to be civil and actually explain why they think that way. 176 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:48.159 And I have no problem with that whatsoever. Bring it on. I 177 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:54.759 enjoy because if you're if it's just like this podcast we are extremely critical of 178 00:14:54.919 --> 00:15:00.639 aw If we got on here for sixty minutes every week and when rah rah 179 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:03.279 rah rah rah aw is great, great, great, that's the show. 180 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:07.519 Good night everybody, we would get a listener in the world, you know 181 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.000 what I mean. So, yeah, we're gonna bring it up. But 182 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:13.759 we're not going to sit here and think up, Oh, what's some crazy 183 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:16.799 scenario that we can come up with tonight the stirred a pot. That's not 184 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:20.799 what we do, you know, And it's simple. You know. I'd 185 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:28.279 like to think that our opinions are honest ones, and our criticisms and our 186 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:35.039 platitudes are honest ones as well. We already know that Tony Kahn has said 187 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:41.480 in k Fabe of Course, that due to his horrific, horrific, horrible 188 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:48.559 neck injury suffered at the hands and feet of Matt and Rip Jackson, that 189 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:52.600 he is not He is not allowed to travel out of Jacksonville. He is 190 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.679 stuck at Jacksonville, you know. So poor Tony. He'll probably be in 191 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:03.279 the the work tomorrow night, you know, but off camera he'll be there. 192 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:11.600 But here's the thing. He has alluded to the fact that somebody's gonna 193 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:15.080 have to step it up, you know. And I'm thinking tomorrow night will 194 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:19.120 be Kenny Omega. Do you think that this is a one time shot or 195 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:22.840 maybe, you know, not a permanent thing with Kenny Omega, that from 196 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:27.639 week to week we may see other people stepping it up and becoming like the 197 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:34.039 voice of Tony Khan, the voice of Tony Kahan over over the next several 198 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:45.600 dynamites and grand pages and collisions. I could see doing it once or twice 199 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:52.639 involved a lot in the back room. Yeah, but Daniels is currently injured, 200 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:57.480 so I don't know if they would bring him another KF. But we 201 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:04.359 got a lot of KFE injuries and a w so. But yeah, I 202 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:11.319 don't know. The way they made it sound from what the way I heard 203 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:15.359 it is that he's gonna he's gonna run things from there. He's gonna watch 204 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.440 it, you know, live and and he'll be in contact. That way 205 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:23.200 is the way I took what uh Tony was saying on the broadcast Saturday night. 206 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:30.119 But yeah, but what the worst way the inmates will play, right, 207 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:36.079 They're gonna go for here. The The only thing about with Kenny is 208 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:42.160 if his health is still up in the air. Sure, So you know, 209 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:45.839 it would be great if he's there tomorrow night and he can do that 210 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:49.640 tomorrow night. But I wouldn't count on it being a weekly thing until he's 211 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:56.519 because I'm pretty sure he said he's gonna have to have surgery, so you 212 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:59.640 know that that they're gonna have to come up. I mean, Swerve did 213 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:06.799 kind of intimate towards that the other day on on Wednesday on Wednesday last week 214 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:10.759 when he came out and talked. So, I don't know. It's gonna 215 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:15.319 definitely be very interesting. You know who i'd like to see do it is 216 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:23.920 Evil Uno. Yeah, I think the natural leader, and I would I 217 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:27.359 would like to see him take over. The Dark Order hasn't been getting to 218 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:36.640 play that. I think that they should anyway. Are they mm hmm? 219 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:44.279 Are they on anything? The Ring of Honor? They've been on Ring of 220 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:48.960 Honor a few times. They've done a few like vignettes that have appeared like 221 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:53.559 on YouTube and Twitter and stuff like that, but as far as wrestling, 222 00:18:53.680 --> 00:19:00.519 they're like once a month group. Yeah, eva Uno has his own thing 223 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:07.160 going on, so he's doing some other stuff, but I would like to 224 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:17.039 see him as the head of any normally been the voice of Tony Kahan. 225 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:19.319 So I'm mad at that. I just don't want, you know, some 226 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:27.079 laptops feeling stuff. But uh yeah, I mean, I mean, I 227 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:32.599 think it'd be Tony Savanni. I kind of would like to see them alternated 228 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:38.039 between maybe like a babyface one week to a heel the next week, and 229 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:42.359 then baby a baby Face had a heel of being forced to work together to 230 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:51.359 oversee the inmates kind of thing, you know. Eventually, So this also 231 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:57.599 gives a perfect reason for Jericho the Learning Tree to take over. Lord. 232 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:06.240 Do you want me? That's it, I'm muting you. The character he's 233 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:11.680 playing perfect can't perfect opportunity? Are right? Wait the hell out of that 234 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:18.559 character? You're right. That's the good news is that Tony Kahan has taking 235 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:26.720 all the heat off Jericho, of course now for now, until Jericho comes 236 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.839 out opens his mouth. But you gotta you gotta resp it for a couple 237 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:41.960 of days. Yeah, he's okay, sorry, but Jericho's facing at nothing 238 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:52.160 right or that? I don't know, and frankly I don't care now tomorrow 239 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:03.720 does anybody know or care who Jericho is facing at double or nothing? With 240 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:10.240 very many matches for double or nothing yet there isn't. We're gonna find out 241 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:18.079 tomorrow night who Swerve will face. And they're they're they're setting Jericho's defending against 242 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:26.880 a bushie or not a boushie, but uh yeah against a bus no, 243 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:30.680 no, no, okata, Okay, no, you all keep getting them 244 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:42.759 mixed up. That's the one. This is what we are. That's so 245 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:45.799 so yeah, we'll get I'll say something about that in a minute, because 246 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:52.759 it can lead to interesting about Yeah, once we get to that, I 247 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.400 will say something about it. But let's move on because we are I kind 248 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.160 of find this a little bit interesting in that we are going to learn who 249 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:07.440 will face Swearve Strickland at double or nothing. This is another non wrestling segment 250 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:15.079 scheduled for tomorrow night. We already know that will Osprey is facing uh Roderick 251 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:18.599 Strong at double or nothing, so it's not gonna be will Osprey who do 252 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:23.640 you think is going to face Swerve Strickland for the a W World Championship. 253 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:34.160 Mm hmmm, I have no idea, Paige. No, oh god, 254 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:45.200 oh I does anybody the idea? No? What? What are the what 255 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:59.400 are the rankings right now? Oh? Who see, it's a good idea. 256 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:03.599 Here's the problem with what Tony Kahn has done. Everybody's been so focused 257 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.519 on Tony Kahn and the neck brace thing and all the you know lanya that's 258 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:11.400 gone around with that. Nobody's really paying attention to the actual wrestlers this week. 259 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:18.519 It's kind of strange. Maybe so I'm kind of looking forward to this. 260 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:26.079 Uh maybe maybe to be a shocker like Christie Cage or something like that. 261 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:32.319 Yeah. Maybe it's something something huge that we none of us are are 262 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:40.000 expecting. Maybe it's Ricky started. I believe Ricky Starks is injured right now, 263 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:48.559 so I don't with the learning tree in corner, Oh goodness, is 264 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:59.279 not world championship material? How about Dan House? It has world championship material 265 00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:04.519 than Ricky. Yes he does. I'm gonna in a week. Yeah. 266 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:08.559 Well yeah, well, well we all know. Sleasey, go ahead and 267 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:14.079 say your pick the face if you have two picks too bad to pick to 268 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:18.519 face were strictly for the a W World's Championship at double or nothing, go 269 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:21.920 ahead and say, because I know you're dying too well, the first one 270 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:30.359 in terms of maybe an actual pick I would have to go with, I 271 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:37.640 want to say Orange Cassidy in terms of an actual pick. Now, in 272 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:41.839 terms of my pick, that's right, the greatest wrestler of all time. 273 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:51.559 Here, here's Griff Garrison, who def is Griff Garrison. Hem, smash 274 00:24:51.640 --> 00:25:02.200 him. It's gonna be great. Wait, how about J I just swallowed 275 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:07.400 my tongue. Well, that actually did bring up m JF, which he's 276 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:12.960 actually out getting more shoulder surgery. I believe I'm tired of everyone in their 277 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:26.240 surgeries. Come on, guys, we probably won't see NBF until this time 278 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:30.079 next year. If we're lucky, I mean, where you can do and 279 00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:33.480 exploding mard wire death match and do a match the next day. There you 280 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:37.200 go. Well, you know, look, I you know that you've been 281 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:40.160 like a good point. I just posted not long ago, like an hour 282 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:42.599 ago. I posted on the aw fan up subredd at a list of the 283 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:48.880 injuries that have wrestlers out. And if you look at that list, of 284 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:53.680 injured a W wrestlers, and there's also some non injury people that are out 285 00:25:53.759 --> 00:26:02.119 due to like suspensions and things like that. But if you look at that 286 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:07.880 list of injured a W wrestlers, I swear to you that if you were 287 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:12.759 going to start a promotion tomorrow, you would say, oh yeah, give 288 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:17.240 you that list, and I can make a good, a great promotion out 289 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:21.359 of that. That's how good Aw's roster is. That the people that aren't 290 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:26.519 able to wrestle are better than a lot of better than you would expect. 291 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.559 Is what I wanted to say. You can actually start a promotion with the 292 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.599 injured wrestlers. Of course they're injured, so they would be able to wrestle 293 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.960 to your promotion to just fall apart right away. But you know, I 294 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.039 read that person thought the exact same thing. This would be one hell of 295 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:47.400 a way to start a new a new wrestling federation. That's a hell of 296 00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:56.119 a list. It is really the we're going to start a dow fash the 297 00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:11.319 infirmary. Oh lord, Buddy Matthews, he could fight. No, Well, 298 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.559 I think it's gonna be Jack Perry. Jack. I'm kind of if 299 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:21.559 they do something with Jack Perry, I do think that there's a strong chance 300 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:25.359 it could be Jack Perry And if it was Jungle Boy, whatever pay per 301 00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:29.079 view it is, I will buy it. I will somehow go into debt 302 00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:34.200 to buy a pay per view to watch mm hmmm mmm, because once again, 303 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:45.119 once again Sleazy wants to have Jack Berry's baby. H I don't know. 304 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:52.599 I really don't find the rankings. I don't know whether that's they just 305 00:27:52.640 --> 00:28:00.279 need to drop the obviously don't mean anything any announce for blood. Yeah, 306 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:07.000 Eddie Kinkston going for the a W World Championship. That's a that's a banger. 307 00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:15.720 It comes down to this, who you are such a good judge of 308 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:22.359 characters, who has who has stooded with over the last on this run to 309 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:26.759 get into the title that he could wrestle Now, not really anybody left, 310 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.279 so they got to start over all brand new with that because they're not going 311 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:36.759 to give a rematch. So you know some moo Joe's not going to be 312 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:42.279 there hanging out the next one, but he's out for a family reason or 313 00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:47.960 whatever. So unless he comes back, which he could, he would be 314 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.640 one that could do it. But I think it's going to be the e 315 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:56.039 VP choice and it's going to be a Jack Perry thing. Yeah, it 316 00:28:56.079 --> 00:29:02.079 could be, that's my opinion. It could be Jay White. You know, 317 00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:04.880 the fact of the matter is you don't want to put somebody like look, 318 00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.400 here's why. Here's what I look at it. Okay, Swerve just 319 00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:12.559 won the championship and he's not going to lose the championship at double or thing. 320 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:18.440 So you don't want to put somebody that is really, really hot, 321 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:23.599 whether it's in ring or doing promos or storyline against swear Strickland, just to 322 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:27.319 have them lose and fade away into the darkness. That's one reason why I 323 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:32.039 don't think like that Jack Perry would be a good choice. Kind of. 324 00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.880 I wouldn't want to see Jay White either, because he's already wrestled for the 325 00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:42.359 aw championship and lost. Yeah, so it's I don't know, I really 326 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:49.119 don't know. Claudia loses to everyone. Claudio is like a taller Serpenteico these 327 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.759 days. But here's the thing. But here's the thing. He gave. 328 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:57.240 That match between him and Swerve the other night was an amazing match. Yeah, 329 00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:03.440 absolutely, But at the end of the day, well I get that, 330 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.880 and like you said, he's not he's not losing it double or nothing. 331 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:11.359 So you want to have somebody who will do what Claudio did. He'll 332 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.400 go into the match, he'll give you everything he can get. He'll make 333 00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:18.680 Swerve look like the greatest wrestler of all time and he'll lose. Yeah, 334 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:22.319 well, it's it's going to be the staff all the spoiler alert. So 335 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:26.039 oh it's a boss. No no, no, no, no, no, 336 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:32.279 no no no w W Championship champion there ever was because they tell about 337 00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:37.680 it, it's going to be the other guy. He's the other one they 338 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.960 let lo. I can't, man, I don't wasn't enough to remember, 339 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:48.640 uh, the Indian guy there you go. Oh, that's why I meant 340 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:53.759 I don't know why I'm thinking Wait ante, Yeah, have I mentioned before 341 00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:56.559 that I'm an idiot. That's why I meant to say it was all but 342 00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:03.519 I stop a cave cave my mind out of my mouth. So anyway, 343 00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.440 you know that you brought up buddy Matthews and we've got a match tomorrow night 344 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:12.799 where Adam Copeland is going to be facing one of the members of the House 345 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:19.440 of Black. I personally believe that it's going to be Adam Copland versus Malachi 346 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:26.119 Black at double or nothing, and that they're going to use Buddy Matthews and 347 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:33.640 Brody King to wear down Adam Copeland over the next few weeks, two or 348 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:41.119 three weeks still, so that he's sufficiently beat up. I look for Adam 349 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:47.319 Copeland to get the snot beat out of him without any regard for windsor lawses, 350 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:49.759 meaning that the House of Black member that does face them tomorrow night is 351 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.440 just going out there to try to cripple Adam Copland. I think that's the 352 00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.839 storyline that they're going to go for, you know, just to kind of 353 00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.279 weaken them, weaken him like they did with Orange Cassie in this first run 354 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.559 where he got to stop beat out of him and made him such an underdog 355 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:07.599 even though he was the champion, you know, and then he had to 356 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.200 pull out the win, you know, seventy two times or whatever. He 357 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:14.079 did good. But what do you think do you think that I'm right? 358 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:19.480 Do you think that the goal here is Malachi Black and Adam Copeland at double 359 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.000 or nothing. You got to do your favorite man, stay out of my 360 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:28.799 damn head. Well, when you've got two people sharing the same brain cell, 361 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.319 as I did say last week, it's not that hard. I mean, 362 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.839 come on, yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. I 363 00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.559 think that's what's going to happen. I think it's going to be the beginning. 364 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:44.480 I think I actually think Malachai is going to win that title. Ship 365 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:52.680 will passed you for a win. Yes, I agree, and it would 366 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.079 I think. I mean, I don't know how everybody else feels, but 367 00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:59.799 I kind of think that it would really elevate Malachi Black to have the TNT 368 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.400 Championship and it really wouldn't do anything to hurt out of Copeland to lose it 369 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.920 because he's already lost it at what thirty six seconds or whatever it was the 370 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:15.920 last time you lost it. Well then, and then somebody asked a question 371 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:20.599 somewhere about they were talking about something had to do with who they would want 372 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:25.200 to see do something, and they said, where is Christian? They kind 373 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:31.960 of just like completely eradicated that whole faction with that loss. Nobody none of 374 00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:37.759 them have been seen in aw since they're rebuilding for something. So but but 375 00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:45.240 basically, you've taken away any momentum that that patriarch thing had. Now they've 376 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:50.960 been gone for almost three weeks now, and let me let me ask you 377 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:59.799 this suthing. We have a dynamite in Canada, and I've already said that, 378 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.440 uh that the House of Black is probably going to do everything in their 379 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:08.079 power to cripple Adam Copeland, you know, leading up into what I believe 380 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.719 is the match between he and Mile Kay Black at double or Nothing. Do 381 00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:20.039 you think we may see Christian come out possibly and help save Adam Copeland do 382 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.840 nothing leading to it? Nope, I don't think it'll happen to a double 383 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:30.960 and nothing. I think he'll be if they they kind of gotta get you 384 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.639 can't just leave, I mean while you can, but then that's WW too 385 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.119 much WW like where they just completely let it go and don't do anything to 386 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:45.320 finish it because the patriarchy hasn't been finished yet. They hanging. It's dangling 387 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:47.960 out there with no end. They need to do something with that. They 388 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.880 don't need Adam Copeland to do that. They don't need the House of Black 389 00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:53.679 to do that. They can do that on their own. They can have 390 00:34:54.960 --> 00:35:00.440 it's dangling like Adam Copeland's nuts when Mama Mama and has a hockey stick YEP, 391 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.440 I get it. Yeah. Plus the Spike, I mean, I 392 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.519 mean Spike would have hurt really bad. Yeah, but for a month. 393 00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:12.159 I mean, come on, now, he's been hitting them nuts enough times 394 00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.920 playing hockey and and ladder matches and everything else that they've done over the years 395 00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:20.199 together. I think he's I think he I think there's time to They've got 396 00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:24.880 to do something with that. Okay, hockey for the Toronto Yes, so 397 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:29.639 sleazy. What I think what we should do is we should call Adam Copeland, 398 00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:30.960 get try to get in touch with Adam Copland. See if you can 399 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:36.119 get get Spike off with him. Borrow Spike for a day and hit El 400 00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:42.000 Sutton and the nuts with it, and see how long he's out. I 401 00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:47.840 don't think that's happening thing. I've got enough physical problem on the shoulder. 402 00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.400 I'm out for I'm out for days. Man, Oh my god. So 403 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.679 no, I mean, I get it, But it's it's you know what 404 00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:00.000 I mean, there's just you. It's to me, it's there's no clue 405 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:04.159 you're on that you had him lose. He got injured, and you've seen 406 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:09.400 none of them, not Lucasaurus, not the boy, not the mom, 407 00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:14.000 nobody, nothing, not a word heard from him. They haven't talked about 408 00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:20.800 the boy. That's the one point that. It kind of gets on my 409 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.079 nerves, is they made him out to be such a great wrestler, and 410 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:31.960 the boy anyways less than I do he will be. He is getting there. 411 00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:34.960 I mean, he's he's better off than a lot of them when they 412 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.280 start out. But I don't know, I see that. I think that 413 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:42.880 over the next few weeks, uh, I mean, there's a lot of 414 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:44.920 ways he can do it, But I think over the next few weeks they're 415 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.679 going to end up having Christian. He's gonna come back. He's going to 416 00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:52.239 have a meltdown or some kind somewhere along the line. And at the double 417 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:57.039 or nothing pay per view, Copeland's going to be getting the crap kicked out 418 00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:00.119 of him. He's gonna lose the title. Then they're gonna start beating the 419 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.079 shoot out of them after the magic and that's when he's gonna come out. 420 00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:06.079 And that's how they're gonna cook those two up. That's just the way I 421 00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:09.840 got it going, right. Well, does anybody else have anything to say 422 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:15.760 about the Adam Copeland and versus The House of Black saga? You know? 423 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:23.000 So let's move on to Oh God, here we go, The Learning Tree, 424 00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:30.079 Chris Jericho versus Kattiori Shabata. I don't really have anything to say about 425 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:35.280 this other than other than to say earlier today I made a post a poll 426 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:43.880 actually on aw faed hubs subreddit, and the question in the poll was it 427 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.880 was, uh, now that the trio's titles have been unified, thank God, 428 00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:53.679 what should a W do with their titles going forward? And the and 429 00:37:53.719 --> 00:38:00.960 the the The selections were unify the international and continental titles, retire the FTW 430 00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:07.119 title at a woman's tag team title, all of the above, None of 431 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:12.280 the above and well other only got three votes, so we're not even going 432 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:16.440 to talk about that, but by a pretty decent margin. Surprisingly retired the 433 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:22.400 FTW title. I don't know if that has to do with just simply because 434 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:30.639 Jericho has it, or if it's because the ft W title is whatever you 435 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:36.719 know, you know, but most of the votes went to retire the FTW 436 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:39.440 five title, and a lot of votes went to all of the above, 437 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:44.599 meaning that people want to see women's tag team titles and the unification of the 438 00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:49.519 international and continental title. You know. With that, So my question to 439 00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:52.480 you guys is, first, let's talk. You know, I want to 440 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:54.800 hear your thoughts about this match. And the Learning Tree also want you to 441 00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:59.800 you know, hear your thoughts on it. Are we We've heard it a 442 00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:06.239 loose before throwing the FTW Championship into the garbage can and setting it on fire 443 00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:13.480 where it belongs, it needs to stay out. I'm not a fan of 444 00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:17.760 the belt itself because it doesn't have purpose, but I like what Jerich is 445 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:23.760 dealing with it because it's for the world. But they eventually and Heed died 446 00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:27.719 out. I don't know why the keep and bring it up and Hook keeps 447 00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:31.000 on having it and having it not because if Hook's gonna actually be somebody in 448 00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:36.079 aw he has to get rid of that belt and has to quit hanging around 449 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:40.400 his father's legacy is a great legacy, yes, but just like a lot 450 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.920 of the other guys, they have to step away from their dad and be 451 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:51.440 somebody by themselves. And Hook will never be that unless he drops the FTW 452 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:57.440 title. Oh he's no longer the FTW title holder anymore, Jered, Well, 453 00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.800 he'll get him back. Yeah, I agree with it, don't Yeah? 454 00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:02.599 I agree. I don't want to see it. I want Jericho to 455 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:10.199 be the last ft W Tyrell titled. I don't think that's ever gonna happen. 456 00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:17.880 I think it's actually put in in uh as his contract that f t 457 00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.760 W TREDI will be in AW as long as he's there. I kind of 458 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:32.719 think so too. That's pretty uh conceited of him to do if that's part 459 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:37.760 of If that's part of his contract, well, I and and it's and 460 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:43.960 it's more or less it's a way to I think they did it because it 461 00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:49.639 harkens back to the old ec W in a way and gives them a connection 462 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.960 to that history, which plays into what Tony Coln loves about wrestling anyway. 463 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:58.800 So I don't know. I kind of like the f T T TW title, 464 00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:05.039 but uh, I don't know. It's just it's one of those things 465 00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.360 where if it's there, it's there. If it's not, it's not. 466 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:14.199 Well, I'm not gonna make or break aew. Well, I'm gonna have 467 00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.159 to disagree with first off, the fifteen people who voted on our subreddit poll 468 00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:24.079 and everyone who's saying the FTW title should be retired. Hold on here, 469 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:30.559 did you just say fifteen people voted on the the subreddit poll. Well, 470 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:35.239 the fifteen people who voted that the FTW Championship should be retired, I wait, 471 00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.320 Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. Did you 472 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.639 just say fifteen people voted on the retirety. I think you may need to 473 00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:46.639 refresh your browser there, buddy, dude, I said the fifteen people who 474 00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:52.679 voted for the FTW Championship to be retired on our pole. I understand that, 475 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:57.920 But a lot more than fifteen people voted for the ft W Championship to 476 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.559 be retired. Is what I've told you. You need the refresh browser. 477 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:07.679 Okay, Well, however many people voted on the bubble. I disagree. 478 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.039 Yeah, I disagree with all them, like as as I'm pretty sure it 479 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.039 was someon who said it before. I don't know. I'm working on a 480 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.800 gray screen right now, but Sutton just said that we have that ECW connection 481 00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.639 with the FTW Championship. And I don't know about you guys, but ECW 482 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.519 back in the day was pretty good. It had all that extreme wrestling and 483 00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:29.280 stuff. Don't we like extreme wrestling? Don't we like having that connection to 484 00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:34.440 extreme wrestling? And doesn't AW feel a lot like extreme wrestling right now? 485 00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:39.440 I'm feeling it's pretty extreme right now. And the words of Elsa let it 486 00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:47.559 go never Yeah, hard disagree with you there. Here's the thing. Here's 487 00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:53.440 the thing. AW is its own entity. It's combining a bunch of stuff 488 00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:58.719 from the past and the new stuff. It does have elements of the WCW. 489 00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:02.079 It does have elements of ECT because that all came from well, not 490 00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:07.679 the ECW, but the WCW has a history with the connections to the TV 491 00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:10.719 and where they're at right now and the people that the people who are in 492 00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:16.920 like Tony Shavanni and even with JR. And that because your worked there for 493 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:21.960 a while. It's a good thing to have in some ways because it gives 494 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:27.000 you that connection. But AW is AW. There's they they don't compare to 495 00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:31.920 anybody else. They're doing things that have never been done before, like having 496 00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:38.679 the best men's roster that's probably ever been assembled in one in one company, 497 00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:44.920 getting the women's division up to that point too so. But it does give 498 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:51.639 you that little bit of a way in because honestly, ECWWCW got treated like 499 00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:55.920 shit by WWE, and it's another way to dig a little bit at what 500 00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:02.639 a what WCW or WWE did and that's something that you know they that's a 501 00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:06.639 way for them to do that. That's just where it seemed like to me, 502 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.320 I kind of was like, I think I even posted it. I 503 00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:15.920 think they should just leave it all alone right now. Yeah, you're one 504 00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:19.639 of those three people that said leave it alone, right And honestly, the 505 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:23.679 reason I say that is they've got so many things that are going on right 506 00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:29.760 now that it let it go for the time being. Get through the to 507 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:36.000 the builders up and through to all in, get to that, get through 508 00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:40.559 forbidden door, get you all in, and then maybe have a women's tag 509 00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:46.039 team division and then maybe have the combination of the two and get rid of 510 00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:50.840 FTW. But until then, there's so much stuff going on right now that 511 00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.960 just adding more onto it could make it. It could weaken the overall picture. 512 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:06.079 T in away. No one will notice, so well he would notice. 513 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:10.199 The point is. The point is here's a point that I'll make. 514 00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:20.159 Okay, when aw is original or tries to be original, that's when people 515 00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:24.639 talk. Let's look at the Continental Classic tournament that they did. That got 516 00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:30.519 talked. They got a lot of talk. Okay, this is probably the 517 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:37.199 most we've ever talked about the FTW belt ever on this podcast. So we've 518 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.239 been doing this for a year. We don't talk about it because it's it's 519 00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:45.960 not worth talking about. You know, it's not what It's not at the 520 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:51.199 level of the TBS Championship. It's not the level of t n T certainly 521 00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.199 not the level of the not even the trios. It's the lowest of the 522 00:45:54.320 --> 00:46:00.840 lowest level belts that isn't it's not even unrecognized. But sure it's nostalgia. 523 00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:07.800 It's the stallsia. But guess what nostalgia doesn't bring new viewers in. Doing 524 00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:14.920 something original and exciting brings new viewers in championships never going to be exciting. 525 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:20.760 Well, hopefully Tony Khan can do some original extreme wrestling if we're gonna be 526 00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:28.400 tiring in anyway, you know, I feel like you go ahead. I'm 527 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:32.920 talking about ECW levels of extreme. When they had that FTW rules match, 528 00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.519 did you see how many times we were like, you know, well, 529 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.039 I mean, I know that I'm taking a chant from the bucks here, 530 00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:45.679 but I'm pretty sure most of us sensible people or like please make care paulp 531 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:51.360 like, like, come on, man, that that FTW rules match was 532 00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:57.360 pretty good and and and and it just you know, like the wrestling part 533 00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:01.239 was good, the extreme part was gone awful. I thought it was fine. 534 00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:06.760 I mean, I mean the tinfoil garbage can bit has been overdone. 535 00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:15.559 We have had some amazing extreme matches in a W, sure, but that 536 00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:22.800 the uh the the the light to a couple of different lights out matches, 537 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:29.360 A couple of matches I thought someone was gonna die was a great example of 538 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:35.719 what's that were versus Hangman too was a great example of that where they went 539 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:39.320 to war and it looked good and that reminded me of Terry Funk and then 540 00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.360 that and that's a great tribute to c W if you want one. But 541 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.599 they don't need a title that I have been title, but never was a 542 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:52.719 title be hanging around and say look at me. I look I look cool, 543 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:55.519 but I have no you know, I have no purpose. The only 544 00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:00.519 way I am ever going to accept that the ft W Championship is game retired 545 00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:05.039 is if it gets a full on storyline that goes before it has is like 546 00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:10.639 I'm retiring this belt. Yeah nobody cares now. Yeah. See. My 547 00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:15.760 thing is is like after this match which Jericho will win, Kenny Omega comes 548 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:17.719 out, takes the belt, throws the dreshkin of lights on. That's it. 549 00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:25.840 I thought that the belt was like some secretive outlaw belt. So yeah, 550 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:32.800 they could do something with it, like like hold secretive matches that you 551 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:38.480 know exactly that gets it. Yeah. Yeah, they aren't like, you 552 00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:45.880 know, talked about you know, it's it's kind of quiet thing. I 553 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.440 don't know. That's the way to bring excitement to the show is by doing 554 00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:57.159 something that's secret. And yeah secret Billy Billy Billy the Kid is dead and 555 00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:00.639 so is the ft W Championship. You know, I don't know about you 556 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:07.000 guys. I live. I live for those those like the EVPs are great 557 00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:12.079 at it. They never have to talk. All of their subtle looks and 558 00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:17.760 glances, all that kind of stuff. I think it's fantastic. TAZ could 559 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:24.519 be doing all that kind of stuff anytime FTW. Just give a little sideways 560 00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:28.880 look and if you know, you know, maybe you follow them on social 561 00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:34.119 media and find out some things about the FTW matches. You know who else 562 00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.039 you should follow on social media? The AW fanhub follow our social media is 563 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:45.880 today. Well, thank you for that plug. I honestly though, I 564 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:51.960 mean maybe one of the issues is that since day one, I have not 565 00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:57.599 cared about FTW and I will never care about FTW, So maybe that makes 566 00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:02.880 me a little jaded. So I was never into e c W myself. 567 00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:09.119 I you know, tas Haas has had a decent one other place, but 568 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:15.559 I just I just don't see the need for it. I don't think if 569 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:20.599 you did a worldwide thing about how many people actually how many thanks I actually 570 00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:23.800 cared about it? I bet it would be slim. I really do. 571 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:28.599 I don't think people care enough the page into it. And like I said 572 00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:30.920 before, Cook needs to get away from that title and be his own man, 573 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:35.920 and maybe it is better for him to do it. Well that's totally 574 00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:42.679 n x T. Well, well it shook the problem because he's he's he's 575 00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.079 struck with his dad. I mean he has to move away from task. 576 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:52.199 Has a little successful wrestler who's who's use his dad is a correct is Cody 577 00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:58.320 Rose. So I mean everybody else has to at some point move away and 578 00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:06.119 and be either on man. If he can't do that, you know I 579 00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:09.639 would disagree with that because Hook hasn't hasn't used I mean, he's held the 580 00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:15.320 f tt ft W title. He hasn't gotten any help from his dad. 581 00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:19.159 Even when he's having this thing with Jericho, He's not getting any help with 582 00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.280 his dad. From his dad. He is his own man. The FTW 583 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:28.199 title isn't a legitimate title, so that's what's holding him back. He has 584 00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.159 nothing to do with him being involved with his dad. He has a staying 585 00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:35.679 out of it, a good job of stayed out of it. I will 586 00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:38.199 give him that. I don't think he's had anything to do with with anything 587 00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:40.719 that that Hook. I mean, you know it's gonna be the same thing 588 00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:45.679 in the back politics or politics. He's gonna be pushing the help to get 589 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:47.960 him some stuff. But when it comes down to it, Book's done what 590 00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:55.039 Hook's done on his own your game that time and it still be relevant. 591 00:51:55.159 --> 00:52:02.440 I mean it goes back, it goes Hamburger Stars and Jack Curry had it. 592 00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.440 You know, it's gone back and forth and back and forth, and 593 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.800 then at some point you need to put him a tag team and put a 594 00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:14.280 title on him there or put him on the T and T. But he 595 00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:23.119 has to evolve from just being the outlaw title guy. Well, look, 596 00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:30.039 unless they actually book an interesting match consistently, not just one every once in 597 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:34.320 a while, but do a consistent match, do you have to do the 598 00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:40.440 FTW title matches would be commesurate to two bules fighting over a daisy peers. 599 00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.360 You know, That's the way I look at it. So let's move on 600 00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:49.320 to the last match of the night. It's not gonna be the main event, 601 00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.199 but it's the last one to talk about how I actually kind of find 602 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:58.119 this to be kind of an interesting matchup. It's Mariah May and Serena d 603 00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:04.239 both of them high in the ranking, and uh, this could have some 604 00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:08.639 ramifications here. I mean, Serena deeb is issued a challenge. You know 605 00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:14.519 how Mariah May is tight with Tony Storm. Kind of like to see Mariah 606 00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:17.519 May versus Tony Storm, kinda like to see Serena Deep against Tony Storm. 607 00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:23.320 Well, I think, well, I think Serena Deeve should definitely get the 608 00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:28.920 win over Mariah May, because I mean, first off, isn't Mariah May 609 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:35.559 like very young and stuff like that. Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure Serena Deeve's 610 00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:38.960 like what forty She has a lot of angring experience, and I feel like 611 00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:45.039 a match between her and Tony Tony Storm is going to be a pretty good 612 00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:47.679 match, and I feel like she's going to be a pretty solid champion for 613 00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:52.440 the AW World Championship, especially as he is deemed the Woman of a thousand 614 00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:55.639 holes. Like there's just so much you can work with with Deean right now, 615 00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:02.199 Mariah May, she's just Tony storms lack dog right now, you know, 616 00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:05.920 like like like the evil little pet that you have on your lab and 617 00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:09.599 it's like that's just all she feels like right now, Serena, Deeve has 618 00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:13.719 something. And that's saying something coming from somebody who hasn't been able to watch 619 00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:15.639 the show for months because I've been busy with college. But uh, yeah, 620 00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:22.920 that's what I say. That's fair, that's fair. You left that 621 00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:31.639 one piece to the puzzle, mir miror Shira Cowell. I see, I 622 00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:37.079 don't see dee I mean Deep might beat Mariah. She's not winning the title, 623 00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:44.199 not yet anyway, It's not gonna happen. Tony's gonna keep the title 624 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:47.199 until all in, And honestly, I think there's gonna be a surprise opponent 625 00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:52.400 there. We're kind of along the same lines, but we're a little bit 626 00:54:52.400 --> 00:55:01.119 different. Who else has an opinion about this? I don't know, Well, 627 00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:06.320 you don't know as an opinion, what about your I don't have an 628 00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.679 opinion on this, but I mean, who's so, what is the main 629 00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:15.440 event? Is my question I would have if I had to pick a an 630 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:16.920 event, I would go out of Copland versus one of the members of a 631 00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:23.519 Well. Look, when it comes to Mariah May, I agree with both 632 00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:30.280 Sutton and Sleazy on this because you both made good points. Diva is a 633 00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:37.000 veteran. She will probably put on uh. She would probably be the on 634 00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:45.800 paper for most the better opponent. But I'm going to say this and just 635 00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:52.320 may get some booze, but Mariah May is a better wrestler right now than 636 00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:58.559 Serrina Debaz Boom. She really is. I mean, she's got she's got 637 00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:05.400 more athleticism, she's got you know, while Serita Deeb is a is a 638 00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:10.119 technical wizard, Mariah May is more entertaining, She's got, you know, 639 00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:17.559 the stardom touch's she's athletic, she's smooth. I would say that Mariah May. 640 00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:24.039 Here's the thing, this is something I don't know. If you were 641 00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:30.559 to rank the top five wrestlers in the aw Women's division active not injured right 642 00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:36.360 now, I would definitely put Mariah May in that top five. I would 643 00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:39.679 not put Serita deeb in that top five. I'm not putting to any storm 644 00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:43.960 in that top five. I would not either. Yeah, it would be 645 00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:47.960 uh. Like I said, the problem I'm having with this whole thing is 646 00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:55.320 they made the mistake of allowing Tony to make that match for Forbidden Door with 647 00:56:55.480 --> 00:57:02.199 mirashir Kawa. That shouldn't never happened. I know, what's that? Did 648 00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:08.480 you just say filler season? No, they should I said they they had 649 00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:15.400 a setup at these when Tony went to Stardom for a setup between her and 650 00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:19.519 Mirror, shirk Kawa to having mass is most likely going to happen at Forbidden 651 00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:23.079 Door. They got ahead of themselves because that makes people were starting to go, 652 00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:25.239 well, you've got this and you haven't interacted, but they're not. 653 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:30.119 It's it's adding to like I said earlier, there's too much confusion in the 654 00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:32.719 women's division right now. You've got so much stuff going on at the same 655 00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:42.000 time that it gets weird because you had Miraorirkwa in the ring the other day, 656 00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:45.519 Tony's in the ring with her and they didn't interact at all. You've 657 00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:52.039 got Mariah interacting with Mirror like they used to be in Stardom, yet it's 658 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:58.320 not causing any issues for Tony, and it don't make any sense throwing deep 659 00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:04.320 in the mix is just weird even further because does Dee deserve a title shot? 660 00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:07.679 Probably? Is she going to get the title shot? Probably not. 661 00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:14.480 She might get double or nothing. Is there a story behind the title shot? 662 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:17.719 Not really? No, I mean if not. So you know, 663 00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:24.840 you have the ultimate storyline there is pure Kawa, Marame and Tony Storm. 664 00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:30.119 You have the perfect triangle there. You can run it from now until then 665 00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:36.840 because you've got double or nothing where you can have you can have Tony meltdown, 666 00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:42.280 which we've been saying forever. So I I you know, somebody mentioned 667 00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:46.519 somewhere in the suburb about the women's divisions gotten so much better. Actually really 668 00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:50.920 hasn't because you've got more people there, but you still have the same six 669 00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:54.880 girls that are involved in Rest and in the in the storylines, there's nobody 670 00:58:54.920 --> 00:59:01.840 else involved. You had the Statlander Willow Heart, and then you've got Tony, 671 00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:09.320 Mariah and thunder Rosa and Thing. There are six people seven and that's 672 00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:13.480 it. You don't have any of the other people coming into it. Yet. 673 00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:21.679 Now you're throwing in uh Willow with Money for a title that probably Money 674 00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:25.800 really doesn't need to have that title because she should be involved in the Women's 675 00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:30.599 Championship instead of the other. But that's where they're starting her, So, 676 00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:32.119 I mean they've got a lot of things they need to work out in the 677 00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:37.000 women's division. I just think this whole deep thing is kind of like a 678 00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:44.840 I think it should have happened after well, Well Dee would certainly be a 679 00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:47.360 better champion the Mercedes Mom name, because you would just stand around there, 680 00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:57.920 ce ceo instead of actually putting on a quality match. Well, as I 681 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:05.079 said before, you're correct, is that Mariah May and Tony Storm and Mina 682 01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:15.840 Shirakawa are very much embroiled in a storyline, but Serita deeb inserted herself kind 683 01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:20.360 of out of nowhere in it. And I don't want to see a kind 684 01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:22.880 of out of nowhere match at Double or Nothing. I want to see a 685 01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:28.360 storyline match at Double or Nothing. You know, that's a pay per view 686 01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:32.000 match. I could see maybe Serita Dee you know, next week on Collision 687 01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:37.079 fighting Tony Storm, you know, for the belt. That's the kind of 688 01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:39.719 I don't think that's a pay per view match, And I hate it because 689 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:45.840 I really do like Serita de but I don't think it's been set up as 690 01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:49.920 a pay per view match. Now we still have what three and a half 691 01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:55.440 weeks before Double or Nothing actually hits. That may or may not be plenty 692 01:00:55.480 --> 01:01:00.960 of time to actually get a storyline going. But even then I just don't 693 01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:06.000 see it that it is. It'll be rushed. You've been investing the time 694 01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:12.239 in the Mari in the Mina Shirakawa and Mariah May storyline with Tony Storm, 695 01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:16.440 so why not explore it to its fullest because it doesn't have to stop with 696 01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:24.079 one match, It could keep going. I express my opinion that that it 697 01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:30.280 should be even if it's a three way, it should be Mina Shirakawa winning 698 01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:37.400 the winning the title at Double or Nothing, taking it back to stardom, 699 01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:42.039 so that it gets gets a little bit of a the start up a little 700 01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:45.360 bit of a boost because Maror Gold is starting up around that time at the 701 01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:51.320 same time that Double or Nothing happens. I believe May twentieth is when Maror 702 01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:57.320 Gold starts, so this will be having an AAW World Championship Belton startup will 703 01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:06.400 really really really boost stardom. Then you have at Forbidden Door. Then you 704 01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:12.760 have Mina shir Kawa defending your title against whomever, whether it's Tony storm Mariah 705 01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:15.679 b Sriita Deeb. That's when you do it, you know, and and 706 01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:20.760 she could lose the title then, But I just I don't want to see 707 01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:24.519 a rushed Women's a W World Championship match. And I'm sorry, but I 708 01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:30.719 don't think three weeks there's enough time to get Serena Deeb. You know, 709 01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:37.559 the interested Mariam would get. It would definitely be easier to develop Serena Deep. 710 01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:45.159 Why do you say that because have you have you seen Maria May Russell? 711 01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:52.639 No, I said Mercedes Monette? Oh yeah, you cut out there. 712 01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:57.480 Have you seen Mercedes Monet Russell in the last two years? Here here's 713 01:02:57.519 --> 01:03:01.480 how I think alonger lines of the whole stardom thing. Actually, I think 714 01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:07.639 Mariah May should beat Deep this week, and you could use that as a 715 01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:14.000 way to for Deep to start questioning herself because she's supposed to be the professor. 716 01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:22.039 And maybe because of Mariah's affiliation in the past with stardom, Deep could 717 01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:29.360 go there to learn about and learn from that and do something with that, 718 01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:32.639 maybe get her in there, and then she can come back later on and 719 01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:38.079 they can do a full on storyline involving all that. Something along those lines. 720 01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:43.239 You know, as a guy, i'd I actually like to hear what 721 01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:45.800 Nat says about this. I hate to put you on the spot, debt, 722 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:50.039 but how's a guy? You know, I think a lot of I 723 01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:52.719 kind of feel like what a lot of people see Mariah May. They look 724 01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:58.400 her at the you know, maybe like the sexy, blonde and hard to 725 01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:01.800 take seriously kind of character. But the fact of the matter is, Mariah 726 01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:09.119 May is a damn good professional wrestler. She's technically sound, She does the 727 01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:14.159 best drop kicks in ae W by far, and nobody will convince me of 728 01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:18.639 otherwise that, you know. You know, I think people forget that Brian 729 01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:25.079 May is a damn good wrestler. I think so too. I think that 730 01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:30.360 happens to a lot of women wrestlers, not just her. But I think 731 01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:38.119 she is very good, and yeah, I see her going very far in 732 01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:45.039 a W if she so chooses. So yeah, I think she should be 733 01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:48.880 recognized more for her for her talent than her looks. But yeah, you 734 01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:54.679 know, I mean several women that have had belts at AW that Maria May 735 01:04:54.800 --> 01:05:00.639 is a better wrestler. I think so too. She's better to Julia Hart, 736 01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:04.840 She's better than uh Willow Nightingale. Yeah, you know, she's better, 737 01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:09.079 you know, as far as I I don't want to say it, 738 01:05:09.119 --> 01:05:13.000 but she's pretty equal with like somebody like a Chris Statlander. I think they 739 01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:15.280 both have their strengths and weaknesses. Yeah, you know, you know, 740 01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:18.400 but you know, come on, you know, I think she's better than 741 01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:24.760 thunder Rosa. Mm hmmm. I think she's better than Britt Baker. Yeah. 742 01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:29.480 I can't stand Britt Baker. So yeah, oh, you know, 743 01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:33.039 you see, what I'm saying is that That's what I'm saying is that she's 744 01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:39.159 a damn good wrestler. She's not just a you know, a cute blonde. 745 01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:44.559 She's a she's she's got talent. Yeah, that's why I think she's 746 01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:49.719 going to beat Deep tomorrow night. And and that's gonna again. There's just 747 01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:54.760 so many things that they could do with this storyline. Well here, look, 748 01:05:55.159 --> 01:06:00.199 somebody mentioned so somebody mentioned that Serena deeb is pushing forward. She's actually 749 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:04.000 thirty seven. So maybe this is the time to give Serenade but a little 750 01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:08.360 shot at the championship gold, you know, and give her the spotlight. 751 01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:11.719 But at the same time, I believe my Mariah May is only twenty five, 752 01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:15.880 which means she's got plenty of time, but injuries happened. I think 753 01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:19.599 you gotta take take advantage of Maria May why you've got her, you know, 754 01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:26.079 and get her in the championship picture. Not saying give her a belt, 755 01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:30.119 but make give her that shot too, so you can argue both ways. 756 01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:35.880 Put some eyes on it. No, while we're talking. While we're 757 01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:42.400 talking about this, I was having a discussion with another wrestling friend and I 758 01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:46.639 thought i'd bring it to the podcast before it and it relates to Serena deeb. 759 01:06:47.480 --> 01:07:00.880 One of my fantasy matches is Serena wrestling Danielson, and I would love 760 01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:05.880 to see it, and I don't think that we would see it on TV 761 01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:17.639 because it seems that at least American audiences have issue with intergender matches, and 762 01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:26.000 some places in America have problem with women's wrestling. So it's unfortunate because I've 763 01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:31.440 seen some darn good intergender matches and I would love to see the two of 764 01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:38.840 them wrestle. I think that Serena is an excellent wrestler. That doesn't mean 765 01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:43.199 that Mariah May or anybody else isn't I, you know, I just I 766 01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:47.360 think she is and I would really love to see her wrestle Danielson. So 767 01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:55.880 have you seen like the likes of like Chris Statlander and all that wrestling the 768 01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:02.320 men move on? I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen 769 01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:09.000 it. Yeah, there's some really good intergender matches out there. If you 770 01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:13.880 know anybody's looking for them, you can find them. They were good matches. 771 01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:16.800 They weren't like, oh this is stick and stuff like that. Right. 772 01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:26.640 Again, the problem comes in in our society. That's considered abuse. 773 01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:30.199 That's what that's why it's looked at. That's why you won't see it in 774 01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:33.399 our American culture. That's not going to happen. It's not looked at like 775 01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:38.840 other places. They have those matches in Japan all the time. Yeah, 776 01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:41.720 and they have some really damn good matches, like you said, Kelsey, 777 01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:44.560 but I just never see that. I mean, they could do it in 778 01:08:44.720 --> 01:08:48.279 Indy. Yeah, they do it in Indies. It'll never be on TV 779 01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:53.000 like that though. I mean they've been doing them for how long and like 780 01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:56.199 WW did them and it's always you got to have the girl come in when 781 01:08:56.199 --> 01:09:00.159 the girl tags in. So I would love to see it when you know 782 01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:02.279 the Statlander could do it. I'm pretty sure de would give that would be 783 01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:05.720 a hell of a match. Speaking of a hell of a match, did 784 01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:09.760 you guys, any of you guys see the Machi you know, Murder Grandpa 785 01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:15.720 match? Yes, Grandpa was on. It was it was not an a 786 01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:19.680 w but Machi you know, and Murder Grandpa did a match, and that 787 01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:27.600 was just pure silliness and entertainment. I mean, Machiedo was crying, the 788 01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:34.479 referee was crying. Burder Grandpa was just like Murder Grandpa. And I love 789 01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:41.399 the end of it where after the match, Murder Grandpa won and then Machio 790 01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:45.720 flipped him off and he grabbed her by the bird the middle finger and dragged 791 01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:48.239 her out of the ring and up the ramp and back to the locker room. 792 01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:51.600 It was just a perfect ending. But yeah, that was a Schnick 793 01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:56.680 match. That was total stick, you know. But you have the way 794 01:09:56.760 --> 01:10:00.359 they could do one on TV. But the problem there is you got to 795 01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:06.840 get the network to agree. You remember when I think it was Adam Cole 796 01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:11.479 got handcuffed to the ropes and Britt Baker came in to try to save him, 797 01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:15.279 and she got like a she got like a per nose crushed or something 798 01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:23.279 by accident. Yeah, oh my god. On the nine had the domestic 799 01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:30.119 abuse survivors there and they got in all that trouble. It was just it 800 01:10:30.279 --> 01:10:33.279 was, look, you know, they can't risk that kind of stuff. 801 01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:38.560 That was and even though they tried to play it off rightfully, so you 802 01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:41.760 know, people were crying abuse and stuff like that, and I'm like, 803 01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:47.239 oh my god, you cannot give the Internet wrestling community any kind of ammunition 804 01:10:47.399 --> 01:10:53.439 to come down on anything you do. It's like, you know, here's 805 01:10:53.439 --> 01:11:03.600 some free ammunition. Go yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you're go 806 01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:10.439 ahead. My favorite thing he was saying, give an ammunition stuff. My 807 01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:15.880 favorite thing was when uh Jericho and the guy from g c W had their 808 01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:18.039 match and they had a pizza cutter and then right after that they were the 809 01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:27.079 dominance commercial during en during the Remember that that was funny. Yeah, oh 810 01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:31.239 my god. There's a lot of ironies in wrestling, isn't there There is 811 01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:43.560 a lot. Well, well, look in the end, as just enjoy 812 01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:46.239 to run, just enjoy to show, you know, That's that's the way 813 01:11:46.279 --> 01:11:48.680 I look at it, though. You know, it's it's a show. 814 01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:53.399 It's entertainment. Whether you want to believe it or not, that's up to 815 01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:56.479 you because hey, for me, it's real. Damn it, No it 816 01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:01.520 isn't. But anyway, you know, I just it's fun to talk about 817 01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:10.479 spoiler, spoiler anyway. It's like, but no, you understand what I'm 818 01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:15.640 saying, right, It's it's it's it's a post that be fun and just 819 01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.560 enjoy the ride. It's fun to fantasy book what you would do if you 820 01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:24.520 were in charge of the shows, you know. And it's it's fun to 821 01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:30.520 criticize when something isn't done that you think something's done that you think that could 822 01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:33.319 have been done better, or something isn't done at all and you're wondering, 823 01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:39.000 why the hell did they not do this? You know, so you know, 824 01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:42.640 and then it's fun, you know, to kind of say, does 825 01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:46.399 anybody really care about the FDW belt And here sleazy say, hell yeah, 826 01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:50.319 everybody does, you know, at least I do you know kind of thing. 827 01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:56.239 You know, it's you know, the entrances, the flamboyancy, the 828 01:12:56.520 --> 01:13:04.000 entertainment, it's all there. Just enjoy it. I'm so serious, gosh, 829 01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:11.680 I mean, look, Jim Cornett plays a character, Eric Bischoff. 830 01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:15.960 I don't he is a character, but I think he's just out there. 831 01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:20.439 I'm playing a character. We're all playing a character kind of. It's weird, 832 01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:27.960 you know, because when you talk to to somebody on the on our 833 01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:30.640 subreddit, it's not the same way you would talk to somebody if he was 834 01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:33.800 talking face to face with them, and that's the way you should talk. 835 01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:38.399 Yeah, no, need to try and take it seriously like certain people. 836 01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:45.439 Did you just say something about an alcoholic? I don't know. I don't 837 01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:49.319 know what he's saying. That's like, yeah, my ears are bleeding and 838 01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:58.640 I have no idea what he said. Yeah, I think he said something 839 01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:05.159 about cult of alcoholics. Ah, I don't know. Whatever. I cannot 840 01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:11.560 wait for Dynamite tomorrow night just to see how they address this. It's gonna 841 01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:16.199 be a join us on our live chat tomorrow night on the aw fatum subreddit 842 01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:21.000 chat rooms. It's gonna be a blast, I think. And maybe we'll 843 01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:28.000 actually get some matches announced for a rampage. Who knows, maybe they announce 844 01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:32.279 of them already during the podcast. We'll see. But anyway, this is 845 01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:35.439 Kelson. Good night, everybody. Night, y'all,