WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:27.960 Hey, everybody, it's Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. It is. 2 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:32.200 It is a mandate from here at giant bomb dot com. Welcome to 3 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:39.159 the Giant BombCast Revengeance. We have a lovely group of folks today. I 4 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:43.240 couldn't assemble a better group of people to talk about some of the games we 5 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:48.600 will be chatting about today. I'm your host, Jim choa. Giant BombCast 6 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:53.359 Revengeance is brought to you by n c XT. Joining me today, powering 7 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:58.479 up the the vultron that we are today, Turbo Sean McDowell. Yes, 8 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:02.679 empowering me is the nice Yuruba mate that I'm on now. Thanks for our 9 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:10.000 Argentinian friends. I needed this today. Our own Argentinian adjacent friend, Michael 10 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:15.840 him is here. Shit, I'll take it. Hey, listen, sometimes, 11 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:19.000 you know, growing up, most people thought I was Mexican. So 12 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:25.040 that's you know, we're the Latinos of Asia. So I'll take Argentinian. 13 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:30.200 I'll take Diego there feels, and then the Latino of Asia, of Europe, 14 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:36.239 Mike Manati. Don't give that to him. I think that's right Italian, 15 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:40.439 that's Italian's absolutely yeah. As the only actual Latino here, I'll give 16 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:45.920 it to him, sure, Mike. I mean our Argentinian friend, Christian, 17 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:51.719 loves some story about like some Italian person about to be executed, like 18 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:53.760 somewhere in like the Congo or something. That the last moment, some guy 19 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.239 like comes racing. It's like, wait, don't shoot him, he's not 20 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:04.760 what he's Italian. That reminds me of that of that terrible Dragon Ball super 21 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.240 clip when they decided to, hey, let's go make a bad guy, 22 00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:12.560 but let's just call him Goku Black. Yeah. Yeah, we don't need 23 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:15.560 You can find that clip online if you just search some specific keywords. It's 24 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.560 things are a little different in Japan. All I'm gonna say is, don't 25 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:22.159 don't look up what's call in Japan. You don't want to know, man, 26 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:24.319 you don't want to know. I actually don't know Pokemon. I'm gonna 27 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:34.319 look at it. No, let's keep it moving. Okay, things are 28 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:42.879 different. It's a different anyways Japan. What jall? Oh, Mike, 29 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.919 I just need to gauge your reaction to figure this out. Yeah. I 30 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:50.080 think it's just like Sparkling. It's just it's not whitey like I thought it 31 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:53.360 might be. To be clear, the power of context, you can kind 32 00:02:53.360 --> 00:03:00.680 of discern what's name is Japanese Pokemon company in Japan? Maybe maybe maybe reevaluate 33 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:08.280 something we can rename Pokemon I think right. Uh, gents, we're gonna 34 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:13.280 we're here today to talk about Persona three reload, but before we talk about 35 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:17.159 that big honkin game, anyone playing anything else? Anyone? How's everyone feeling 36 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.080 February? Now? Again, I'm tired, dog. I think I've spent 37 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:30.159 ninety five percent of January assigned to covering a very long RPG. Yeah, 38 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:35.840 and so I've I went from Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth straight into Persona three 39 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:39.479 reload and these are very long games. Sixty hours in Infinite Wealth review on 40 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:45.039 hit video game website GameSpot dot com and another seventy hours on P three reload 41 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:49.680 on hit video game website i GM dot com. So man, been very 42 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:53.400 impressive. Good thing there's no big j RPGs coming out in February. Oh 43 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:58.360 who's to say? Who's to say? Oh? God? Yeah, I 44 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:02.919 kind of felt that hardcore after when we got P three codes come in, 45 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:08.039 and I was like, where do I start juggling and stop playing like a 46 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:12.080 Dragon where I'm having a lot of fun to actually check out this other game 47 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:15.639 for the podcast on the website. But Mike, before we get to Persona 48 00:04:15.720 --> 00:04:20.439 three, you wanted to talk about Penny's Big Breakaway. Yeah. I actually 49 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:26.560 got sent kind of a preview code for this. So this is the game 50 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:31.759 by the studio that did Sonic Mania, that really really good retro style two 51 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:34.959 D Sonic game. This is not with Sega, has nothing to do with 52 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:39.759 Sonic, but this is a three D platform that they're making now, and 53 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:44.720 it's still very Sonic adjacent in a lot of ways, Like there's a bit 54 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:47.839 of Sonic Adventure here in terms of how this feels. But I think because 55 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:51.439 it's not necessarily Sonic, they don't have the problem that a lot of the 56 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:56.000 three D Sonic games fall into, where they feel this desperate need to make 57 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:58.399 it all fast, fast, fast, because like you know, Sonic fast, 58 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.399 Sonic fast and being really fast and a three D platform is just very 59 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:06.120 difficult to control sometimes, so they have to, you know, they're redesigning 60 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:09.480 how those games work all the time to try to find something that works, 61 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:13.720 and they get close. I think Frontiers feels pretty good. The Boost games 62 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:17.800 can sometimes feel all right, but here it is it feels much more like 63 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:23.279 a traditional three D platformer, right, especially one of those kind of I 64 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:25.680 don't know if isommetrics away put it, but you know that kind of three 65 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:29.959 D platformer where there's like the pooled back camera something like maybe more like an 66 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:34.160 Ash Show rescue mission or chase cam, like the chase Cam kind of thing, 67 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:39.240 or even Kirby in the Forgotten Land or sack Boy like one of those. 68 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:43.959 But you do have a pretty fun moveset here. Your whole gimmick is 69 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.120 you have this yo yo and you can use it to attack, but you 70 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.839 can also use it to kind of do this swing jump wherever you are. 71 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:54.279 You can grab a ledge with it. You can also spin it up and 72 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:58.120 then roll on it like Sonic spin dash, So you have that whole thing 73 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:01.319 going right, absolutely, But the whole game just also has this really nice 74 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:05.079 kind of why two K aesthetic if you remember, just sort of the way 75 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:10.519 games looked and felt at that time, with the sort of cheery visuals and 76 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:15.839 music. So it's absolutely nailing that. I am very impressed. I think 77 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:19.959 it's super cool to see these smaller teams being able to make really cool three 78 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:23.720 D platformers. Now. It's kind of like back in the day when we 79 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:26.040 weren't getting two indy two D games, and all of a sudden we had 80 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:30.439 these indies and smaller teams stepping up to bring back those games. I think 81 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:34.600 that's it's happening a little bit already we had stuff I had in time and 82 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:40.160 whatnot. But excuse me, this is really promising. I was very impressed. 83 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:44.839 Mike. I don't know why I feel like you may be the expert 84 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:48.879 in this, but I've always been curious to go back and check out Billy 85 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:54.560 Hatcher. Oh, I know why you think I'm the expert. Yeah, 86 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:57.319 I don't know. I don't know why I feel I think three D platformers 87 00:06:57.360 --> 00:07:01.399 have a certain esthetic platform with tubes on it. Team. Oh yeah, 88 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:05.399 just fine, it's fine. Yeah, you go, you go try It's 89 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:08.399 like, you know, it's a little bit of Glover. There's a little 90 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:14.120 gloverness to it. Remember Glover. Oh unfortunately, yeah, wow, thentunate 91 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:20.839 helper. Yes, exactly. I at least say unfortunately because uh, the 92 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:27.240 only my only exposure to Glover was at a Nintendo sixty four demo stall at 93 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.839 my local Toys r US and any and every time I timed out to go 94 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:35.240 to Toys r US. One of the employees was always hogging the machine playing 95 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:39.959 Glover. Well, you gotta love the glove. Jan Jr. Tortoise, 96 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:44.120 that's the best. When Glover was sponsoring Monday Night Raw, so Jr. 97 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.879 Would have to say, God, I love the glove, Yola. There 98 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:51.399 is actually a game that I I did play that is not Infinite Wealth or 99 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:57.519 Persona. I just remember. It is called It's from the same people who 100 00:07:57.560 --> 00:08:01.240 made A Space for the Unbound. Oh, it is a It is a 101 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:07.759 short time loop game called Test Test Test. It's free, and it is 102 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:13.439 wild because it's it's kind of like a psychological horror that is a commentary on 103 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:20.680 on like work culture and working in corporate life and how your bosses treat you 104 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.439 in the workplace. So I highly recommend checking that out. It's not the 105 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.519 most elegant puzzle style adventure game, but I think once you start to kind 106 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:33.639 of dig it's it's also has arg elements to So I blasted through that in 107 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:37.799 about an hour hour and a half. It's free. I think it's worth 108 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.759 it, and I love seeing more creative games come out of Southeast Asia, 109 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.639 such as this Man. You know, yeah, y'all gotta check that out. 110 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:48.360 Doesn't cost anything, So support the hommies, you know, you know, 111 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.639 yeah, I like the space for the unvent a lot because of your 112 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:56.799 WRAQ Michael so mat test test tests, Sean, have you been playing anything 113 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:01.039 else that you can talk about or talk about well? Me being me Jay, 114 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:01.840 of course, I've been playing a lot of Tech and seven, you 115 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:05.720 know, yeah, seven, seven, eight. So I got used that 116 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.600 it's like when the year flips over. I'm still saying twenty twenty three, 117 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:13.399 you know it is. But like Sean, I always had an little inkling 118 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:16.559 that you were little. You had a skech of like a hipsternist to you. 119 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:20.039 So I wouldn't put it past you to play Tech and seven when hotness 120 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:22.879 knocked us, ain't in eight, so I kind of you know, I 121 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.440 gotta go back every once in a while. But no, Yeah, I've 122 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:28.600 been playing a lot of Tech and A. Been playing with my friends. 123 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.159 Me and Mike go a few rounds or whatever. We're like doing a show 124 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.360 together or whatever afterwards, and that game is just a freaking blast man. 125 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:39.080 We played a little bit for upf DR Day and then been talking about here 126 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:43.279 or there. The one thing that I wanted to give more time with was 127 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:46.679 the online before really talking about because everyone knows. But at this point, 128 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:52.399 the story is incredible. Arcade Quest that's just a fantastic tutorial mode, and 129 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:54.919 you got all these character stories and other little bits of single player content. 130 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:58.000 When it comes to the multiplayer, I really had to put it through itspaces 131 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.720 because you know, I that train for tournaments and or anything like that. 132 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:03.000 I got Big One a few months that I need to get ready for, 133 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:09.480 so I need online to be good big Yeah. You gotta get that full, 134 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:15.679 full fledged experience. And uh, it's better than I was anticipating. 135 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.600 Okay, but it ain't perfect. And we live in a world where like 136 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:24.200 three Fighters six is basically perfect online. And so going into tecond eight when 137 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:28.039 you have a really good connection with your opponent and you can see if it's 138 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:30.799 wired or Wi Fi because you know a lot of consoles are probably gonna be 139 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:33.320 on Wi Fi. Oh I like that. You can see that. You 140 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:35.679 can see that, yeah, because it'll be a Wi Fi indicare if it's 141 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:39.120 Wi Fi or wise, it'll be like the cell phone bars if it's wired. 142 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:41.639 And uh, if you go into Wi Fi match Man, that is 143 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:46.120 a coin flip. You never know, like it could be okay, like 144 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:50.320 maybe a little jittery but fine, or it could just be freezing every couple. 145 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:52.799 I've seen some nasty workout there with the Wi Fi players, you know 146 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:56.759 what I'm saying. And there's there's that, and then if just someone's connection 147 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:00.879 sort of shift the bed for a little bit. Like I was playing with 148 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.360 my buds the other night and the game just frozers and were like, what 149 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:07.919 happened? It's well, wife turned on Netflix upstairs from my buddy and I'm 150 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:13.039 like, ah, I'll do it to this game because they Yeah. So 151 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.639 apparently from what we've been know s us out, it has roll back and 152 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:22.279 not going it to a degree where it's like it's kicking in, but not 153 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:26.559 in the way that we wanted to to cover up those network hiccups that can 154 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:30.840 happen unexpectedly, and that's what you want. People have heard roll back neck 155 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:31.759 with flaying game fans. We just throw it out there all the time. 156 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:37.799 That's why we want because Wentz properly implement it covers up the really bad connections. 157 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:39.840 So that's like the one blemish on tech and eight. I would say 158 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:43.200 it's also getting into a lobby and playing with friends is still a little funky. 159 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.519 I'm willing to overlook that a little bit because you know, it's still 160 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:50.440 launch window. They're figuring some of that stuff out. We'll see what happens. 161 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:54.759 Like the bug that we had there our day jan where you can only 162 00:11:54.840 --> 00:12:00.279 spectate one match and then the spectators get that's still there. So yeah, 163 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:03.080 I was playing with my friends. We had to like all have Discord streams 164 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:05.399 pulled up, and I was kind of annoying. But for the most part, 165 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:09.240 like I think these are things that can be fixed, and the infrastructures 166 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:13.879 there is just a little janky. So I think the online for this game, 167 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.720 it could be better, but it's it's the best that a band I 168 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.840 Napco fighting game has ever been at the very least, so we're getting somewhere 169 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:24.440 with it. Well, Sean, I actually want to talk to you more 170 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.360 about Tech and eight. What is uh, what is the FGC scene feeling 171 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:31.559 with tech and eight, Because what's the general beat on the street? They 172 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:37.960 dig it, Okay, everyone's happy, very happy, always in the street. 173 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.519 That's crazy. Hey, they're they're already street fighting in the streets. 174 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:48.759 Might as well do everything else, Okay, But I remember specifically the the 175 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:52.320 one EVO that I attended in person. The most hyped I got was watching 176 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:56.759 the Tech and Blocks specifically, so like, I'm especially excited, like Tech 177 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.279 and eight has to be at EVO this year, right, oh yeah, 178 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:01.919 yeah, well yeah, I want to go. I've never been to EVO, 179 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:09.159 and like I want to. I can drug you guys. I've said 180 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:13.200 many times on the BombCast. I have had the evil reports over the years. 181 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.080 Man, EVO is more fun than any convention in across the industry because 182 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.720 there's so much to do with. There's so much to get excited about. 183 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:26.799 It's true. And Tech and seven like last year was yeah dog, like 184 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:30.000 that game is old and it was still again it was good. It was 185 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:33.600 a little it ended pretty defensive, so we didn't have as many hype moments. 186 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.000 But I think back to like Combo Breaker twenty nineteen. I think it 187 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:41.159 was Tech and seven still a little fresh. Things were still a little spicy 188 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:43.840 back then, and there were moments that like the crowd was chanting. We 189 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:50.120 had like USA versus I think it was Korea a couple of times where you 190 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:52.519 know, you have those rivalries that happened because teaching such a worldwide game. 191 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:56.879 There were moments that I will never forget, like you feel an energy in 192 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:01.759 the room when like you, USA is about to get eliminated. We have 193 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:05.639 one rep left in the bracket, and everyone literally stands up and does the 194 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:09.279 spirit bomb. We all have our arms in the air, where like you 195 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:13.559 and and holler and and just dude wins, this room pops off. Like 196 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:16.240 ten thousand people jump up and down, screaming on top of their lungs. 197 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:22.320 It's the coolest fucking thing. Tecan is the most international. I think it's 198 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:26.159 like the most diverse in terms of like countries that are represented in the brackets, 199 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:31.320 because definitely like ar like King of Fighters tends to be pretty diverse too, 200 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:35.200 but arslin Ash is like representing Pakistan and all has like a bunch of 201 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:39.399 homies winning too, and like like we don't really we don't really fuck with 202 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:43.720 Filipino champ, but he was one of the best to do it for a 203 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.679 while and like and like, yeah, a bunch of Kareem players, Japanese 204 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:50.399 players, US of course, it's all across the board. Man Tecan is. 205 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:56.159 Tecan is probably the most exciting fighting game to go to an event for. 206 00:14:56.919 --> 00:14:58.799 Yeah, and the thing is like the wild thing, you know, 207 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:03.559 we if you attend attend a convention, whether I don't know if you have 208 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.120 the ability to go to an E three in the past or even a packs. 209 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.279 There's kind of like a shutdown time, right if you're not interested in 210 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:16.360 playing like the board games or whatever. But like EVO goes for a long 211 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:20.639 time during the day, and just like even if you're just like watching a 212 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:24.759 game and not even like the big big games, but like you, when 213 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:28.440 I went with Ben Pack, I passed by two hotel rooms even on the 214 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:33.480 way back to my room cash games, going, oh yeah, money matches 215 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:37.120 out the ass, dude, Absolutely, it is insane. No snitch, 216 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:43.559 I'm not. I didn't see it. Come on, yeah, and then 217 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:48.440 the god, I just looked at the dates for EVO twenty twenty four, 218 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:54.559 and I will be on vacation during that time when Vegas. It's funny because 219 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:58.600 I will have to go to Vegas after Evo's done, like the day after 220 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:02.440 EVO, and it's you're already gonna be there. What are you talking about, 221 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:06.440 Well, I'm going to go to Japan this summer. Oh then coming 222 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:11.360 back to Disney c that's way more important. Yes, yes, uh, 223 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.039 Mike, Mike, my as you know, my partner is also a Disney 224 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:19.399 fan. And then she looks at me and be the adult you know that 225 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:23.000 she's a Disney adult. You now, I've been to the I've bet your 226 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:26.480 I've been to your apartment. I had dinner with y'all. I didn't get 227 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:30.159 the vibe that she was a Disney I've gone if you had known. Yeah, 228 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:33.679 I don't know about this man. Uh. There were at least like 229 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:38.720 three popcorn buckets on our bookshelf. There was any wizard hat there as well. 230 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:44.320 Michael's putting the pieces together. Is that why she warned me about now 231 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:45.720 I can't see it, and I can't I can't see it when it come 232 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.759 over now. But Mike, you'd get a big kick out of this. 233 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.919 She looks me in the eyes and goes like, I hope you know, 234 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.120 since I'm front of the bill for the tickets until you pay me back. 235 00:16:56.240 --> 00:17:03.120 Uh, we're going to Disneyland and Disney see for two days. Absolutely the 236 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:07.119 first time I went to not even Paris, France, but the first chance 237 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:08.759 I got to go to France. I took a train for like four hours 238 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:12.079 to go to Paris to see Paris, but mostly to go to Disneyland. 239 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:18.480 Paris. So I get it in terms like like, what is the size 240 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.839 of Disneyland Paris in comparison to like the USA parks? Yeah, it's it's 241 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.920 I mean, it's similar to Disneyland in California that it's two parks. The 242 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:33.160 ones pretty small, though the kind of downtown Disney area is probably at the 243 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:37.960 same size. But then there's like a giant hotel plaza right by that that 244 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.680 dwarfs the hotel complex that you would get in Disneyland. So yeah, definitely 245 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:47.319 compares more to Disneyland than to disney World, which is absolutely huge. Okay, 246 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:51.920 Okay, I'll get everyone little treats and trinkets and figure out how to 247 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:56.960 send send it out. I'll so many pictures, you know what. I'll 248 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.000 make like a little little Disney Sea vlog just for you, Mike mine. 249 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:03.640 I would love that, love that more than anything, of course you would. 250 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:07.720 I'm just gonna whisper, like, Mike, look at this. Are 251 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:10.759 they guys like this? I would? I'd be like, you're right, 252 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:15.640 I do like that. Yeah. I'll leave enough space in the audio track 253 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:19.400 for you to chime in as well. Appreciate that. Yeah, I can't 254 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:23.000 really see your reaction to that Sinbad ride with that song. You're gonna love 255 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:30.720 it. So Sindbad is like not like the comedian Sindbad but no, yeah, 256 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:33.519 like that guy who went on adventures and stuff. Okay, like he's 257 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.039 only he's got an equivalent. It's like it's a small world in Disney Ce 258 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:41.839 and it has a very very catchy song. Okay, Okay, I'm hearing 259 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.400 from the chat that it they've gone stricter and vlogging. Don't worry, I'll 260 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:48.440 find a way. I'll always find a way to point a camera or something. 261 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:53.079 Chance. I think it's time to talk about the big game at hand. 262 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:59.279 I'm gonna play the music just because let's go, Baby, Baby Baby, 263 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:06.480 the one Persona three reload. I'm gonna say this now. I'm gonna 264 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.000 say I'm gonna start a conversation about Persona three now, Okay, twenty hours 265 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:18.720 in Wow, I don't like damn it, jan and I want to and 266 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:25.519 I wanted to assemble three of the three big Persona heads, uh, three 267 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:30.799 three dear friends and say that I don't I'm not what's wrong. I don't 268 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:34.079 know if you can call me a dear friend. Oh you didn't even first 269 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:38.880 I find out and the next thing. I know, Jan Ship's on, 270 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:42.160 Jan You're what isn't my religion? Right here? We don't do this in 271 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:47.119 this house. Come on, man, what's wrong? I guess I guess 272 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:49.000 I'll start it off the front. I think Persona three Reload might be my 273 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:56.440 favorite game of all time. Yeah, okay, so here's the thing. 274 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:00.519 Here's here's what I I. I need someone to talk me off if here, 275 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:06.279 because I'm twenty hours in and I think the game looks absolutely amazing. 276 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:10.920 It looks it looks gorgeous, and like my only I said this on the 277 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:15.200 BombCast earlier this week, My only introduction to the series originally is just seeing 278 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:18.480 screenshots of a PSP, so I have no frame of reference. The only 279 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:26.839 things I knew about P three was that they use the Revolver the Revokero evokre 280 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:30.359 to some of their persona, and I always thought that was metal as hell. 281 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.680 And then I know the baby Baby, Baby Baby song that might was 282 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:37.240 saying earlier, or the remakes Babe Babe Bybee. If you're good, you 283 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:41.319 get back attacks. Yeah, if you gotta get back shots to get the 284 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:47.000 good song, we'll get the new song. Oh okay, Actually that explains 285 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:51.200 why it's different when I okay, cool, Yeah, a different one. 286 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:52.480 It's like Royal, where you get the new song, if you get if 287 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:56.119 you get backshots normal song. If you get the normal, you don't get 288 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:03.440 an ambush. And I've heard like middle middling things on June Pey of people 289 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:08.559 either really liking him or hating the he's your first friend, come on, 290 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:11.759 he's nice to you. I'm gonna say this is up front. June pay 291 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:17.599 is the best version of that archetype because he breaks out that archetype. Right, 292 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:22.319 So we got June pey y and we're talking about I love I love 293 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:33.039 Regio. How you played PERSONA four because fucking sucks. The worst pathetic is 294 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:37.680 a pathetic loser. You know percona five guy, he gets kind of mean 295 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:41.559 and stuff. I don't know, I don't like him. Plus also the 296 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:45.720 third time we did that trope at that point it was a little tires dog 297 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:53.480 rules homophobe. I didn't know. But yes, we're talking about all the 298 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:59.119 fix in the remake. They'll be fine, all right. Well, I 299 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:03.799 mean I have hope because the Brazona team nowadays a lot more open to a 300 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:07.319 lot more open to revisiting a lot of those elements, which and that's something 301 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:11.960 they addressed in this game, right because I remember, okay, because I 302 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:17.039 remember that being a controversy in like a worry when P three R was there 303 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:19.680 was a beach scene that kind of I think it was mostly all which is 304 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:25.279 very different now. It's yeah, in the in the original one, it 305 00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:30.759 was a it was a transphobic dialogue scene with all the guys. They're they're 306 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:33.440 out on the beach trying to holler at girls and ship. And then then 307 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.880 they have like this whole thing with a like a trans who's supposed to be 308 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:41.359 a trans character, say some transphobic ship. They revisited they rewrote that section, 309 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:45.079 but you can tell that they it's like here, let's go to let's 310 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:48.640 put the like original scene, but like it's changed the dialogue so that scene 311 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.039 still happens, it just plays out completely differently. So yeah, there are 312 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:56.880 things like that. And in P three reload, like I did, I 313 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:00.200 almost forgot that in three P three fests and if you play the male route 314 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:06.119 in Portable two that when you max out the social link for any of your 315 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:08.759 classmates, your female classmates, you have to date them, like they become 316 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:15.440 your girlfriend by default by maxing it out and I was like, holy shits, 317 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:18.440 Yeah one of them talks about how she was like cheated on or anything 318 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:22.599 like that, but I yah's to it, but that's not the case, 319 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:26.960 and reload you can actually be like, hey, we're like really good friends, 320 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:30.880 congrats, max ranked ten social links. So yeah, yeah, it's 321 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:36.039 like a lot. It's like a bare minimum type shit. Yeh fo getting 322 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:37.799 added to it is just very good for it. Yeah, that's that's a 323 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:41.480 big thing here, and it's actually a sticking point for me this game is 324 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.559 it's beautiful. For one, it's a fantastic visual overall. But for the 325 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:51.920 most part, it is pretty one to one the original Vanilla Persona three, 326 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:56.440 just with quality of life and gameplay changes from later games, specifically like the 327 00:23:56.599 --> 00:24:02.279 where Persona is at with five Royal. And I think that does mean that 328 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:06.440 some of the three isms that always bug me are really still bugging me, 329 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:10.799 Like Tartaris is still boring, and I to be honest, if I didn't 330 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:12.480 have the steam deck back there to like grinding those out while watching a Twitch 331 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.279 stream or something, I would just be bored out of my mind during that 332 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:18.599 segments, Like yeah, they're faster than ever because of some of the quality 333 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.559 of life updates, but still wandering down hallways, it all look the same 334 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:26.119 for like, you know, twenty fours at time or whatever. So in 335 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:30.200 Persona three, like, the dungeon is a randomly generated thing and the gimmick 336 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:33.359 is every time you go in it gets changed again. Persona fours dungeons work 337 00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:37.880 the same. It was really Percent of five was the first one where they 338 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.799 made the dungeons kind of hand crafted and bespoke, and they have these set 339 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.160 pieces and they're like five. Yeah, and there's still like an area for 340 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:48.880 randomly generated stuff in person of five, but it's not nearly as important as 341 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.319 those main dungeons. I think that will be a sticking point maybe to people 342 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.160 coming to this from Percent of five. I'm I don't mind us so much. 343 00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:59.759 I'm but I'm somebody who played Persona three million right back when it came 344 00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:03.039 out, so I have some affinity for that original tartar risk. I do 345 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:07.200 think there is something kind of fun about the just like the random maze element 346 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:12.160 of it and the exploration. It's very dungeon crawler like, right, and 347 00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:15.279 yeah, it kind of goes back to the s MT roots a bit there. 348 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:21.000 Yeah, yeah, so I think so. My biggest problem so far 349 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:25.640 is that it just feels like I'm following the same routine and I just have 350 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:29.759 the same worries that I always have when I'm playing a Persona game of am 351 00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:34.480 I maximizing my day properly? Am I? Like? Am I going to 352 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:40.359 pause the game to look up the quiz answer of the day? The answer 353 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.640 activity? Use the use the network function because like I always turn that off, 354 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.200 so maybe I'll turn out, yeah, okay, you get all the 355 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:53.680 answers straight up off that he actually, oh okay, all right, yeah, 356 00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:56.200 but there's a bunch of our stuff that helps you with that too, 357 00:25:56.319 --> 00:26:00.279 because now not only do you have the mini map, so you can basely 358 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.440 fast travels very easily. I did really enjoy that. It's a great change. 359 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:07.799 It's a game. You have text messages now, that's that's the other 360 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.480 big one. Yeah, because that was a big thing, especially in Persona 361 00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:11.920 five. You know, obviously I have a smartphone. They pull up and 362 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.240 your friends are in like a group chat with you, and they'll like let 363 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:17.680 you know, hey, I'm available today. And now you got that in 364 00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:21.799 three where the character buzsts out their flip phone and they got email, so 365 00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:23.400 you know period appropriate and or I think because it does still take place in 366 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:27.839 two thousand and six, but that's a great way to keep track of Okay, 367 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:32.240 these people are available today. You're even on mailing lists for like the 368 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:36.559 restaurants, which pro tip you go do restaurants both eating and working in the 369 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:40.480 early game because getting two stat points and sometimes getting some cat for working. 370 00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:48.559 Yeah, And I think my problem was like halfway through Persona five Royal, 371 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.079 I think I stopped just playing the game and I started playing it with like 372 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:56.240 a guide next to me, just so I maximize everything. That's a huge 373 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.200 problem, yeah, because like I just want to make sure like I'm not 374 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.920 missing out on anything by like a certain day or what. I get that 375 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:08.119 anxiety. And you know what you want to do is maybe find a happy 376 00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:12.039 in between. And that's like to read the basic tips, and the kind 377 00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:17.200 of basic tip is in the daytime, do your social links. At nighttime, 378 00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:21.440 do your stat boosts, and try to prioritize, prioritize some of those 379 00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:23.240 things that give you better step boots, like go into the arcade. But 380 00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.240 I mean another part of it is a little point and it's hard to say, 381 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.200 hey, just don't be anxious about it, but you kind of have 382 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.240 to let it go a little bit and just sort of do your best. 383 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:34.680 And hey, like, no matter what, you're going to beat the game 384 00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.559 and get the ending, and you're going to max out the social links that 385 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:44.920 you probably want to. It's not like like in the Persona for Golden Right, 386 00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:47.880 if you don't max out the social link with that new character, you're 387 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:51.519 not going to get that whole extra dungeon or something like that. That was 388 00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:53.960 fucked up. So that's where a lot of a lot of people in five 389 00:27:55.079 --> 00:28:00.240 Royal missed the Last Palace and that whole story arc, which is like twenty 390 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.880 hours worth of content and some of the best shit I've ever seen in an 391 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.960 rpges. A lot of people miss that because they didn't do the social link 392 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.000 with the counselor in time, and I'm like, that's a goddamn shame. 393 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.200 But there's none of that in p three. If this eases you a little 394 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.039 bit, have you played Persona three before? Jam? No, No, 395 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:25.440 not at all. Okay, I'll say that I think Persona three has some 396 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:29.079 of the best social links in the entire series, but it also has some 397 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:33.200 of the worst. Yeah, because for everyone where you have where like I 398 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.559 really like that, Hey, hey, this neighborhood kid is dealing with her 399 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:40.559 parents getting a divorce and everything. I really like that one because it's like, 400 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:42.160 oh, that's something I want to have expected. But then you have 401 00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:47.720 the dude who's like the king of eating or whatever, and that's all just 402 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:52.079 about it's just about a large kid eating a lot. It's like, oh, 403 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.319 right, that one, So that's Arkhana and this one rules. That's 404 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.039 such a good social link, right, Okay, go the guy is dying, 405 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.720 that's that's that's a sun Arcana. But like I just assumed it was 406 00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:08.640 because his whole thing, his name and the menu is dying young man. 407 00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:17.519 Like damn, it's a very touching story, I think. To that to 408 00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:21.720 that point is that as Sean Sean and Mike had mentioned, this is this 409 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.119 is almost a lot of it is one to one from the original game. 410 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:27.880 So a lot of those a lot of those things that haven't aged well still 411 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.720 come through. And that that's because like, like the franchise has evolved so 412 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.599 much, especially in terms of how it incorporates a lot of those social elements 413 00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:38.680 into the game. So you're gonna see a lot of like Kenji the your 414 00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.519 first classmate who wants to chill with you that will fucking sucks, and his 415 00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:47.640 social like his ass and then you'll have Yeah. So there's a lot of 416 00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:51.880 hits and misses. I think like one of the the rival track team guy 417 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.640 is like one of the best ones too, So it's you. There are 418 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.440 some that you can probably pick out and be like, I actually like that 419 00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.920 full. I don't want to I want to spend time with them, and 420 00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:03.759 you don't really need to think about like, oh well, I don't upgrade 421 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.599 this Arkana. So when I fuse personas, they're not gonna be as strong. 422 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.519 It's like you'll find you'll figure it out. You'll you'll better persona. 423 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.440 Yeah, a few social lengths, you are going to get a good enough 424 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.839 persona stayble to beat the game. Yeah, and uh, to preface us 425 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:22.839 a little bit, me and jan are around the same point, like around 426 00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.720 twenty hours, Like I just got Fuka on my team, so like, 427 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.000 you know, that's like a third ish the way through. So uh, 428 00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.200 Michael, correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't think it changes later. 429 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:36.759 But uh, there are no social length perks correct, like outside of 430 00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:40.640 you know, just the uh you get better fuses. There's nothing like in 431 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:45.519 Person of five you could get like when you rank up the the social lengths. 432 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.119 Sometimes they would have stuff that happens. That's that's how you would get 433 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:51.799 like baton pass and things like that. Yea, even beyond that, Yeah, 434 00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:55.720 so certain things would change. So the so with the social link system 435 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.279 itself, no, but there are so One of the things that I thought 436 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:03.160 was one of the best additions and changes for Reload is that they have separate 437 00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.200 social scenes with and social events with these characters. So yeah, so after 438 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.119 you get Fuka into your party, that's when they introduce like gardening, watching 439 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:15.000 TV, cooking with them, reading books. So those are ways to upgrade 440 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.720 your stat points. And at the same time, the more the more time 441 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.400 you spend with the specific character, they get stat boosts and stat perks that 442 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.160 go into battle. And then so with the male party members too, is 443 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:32.519 that there were no male party members social links in three and three fests and 444 00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:36.119 a male round portable. But what they did to make up for that was 445 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:40.799 they added separate distinct social events with them in particular, and I think it's 446 00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:44.480 really important to check your phone because they'll text you like Akiko will be like, 447 00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.319 Hey, I'm chilling outside the station. Do you have a minute? 448 00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:48.839 Do you want to kick it? Let's get some food or something. And 449 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.799 those aren't just like hey, I'm gonna hang out with him and maybe get 450 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.759 a stat boost or get an academic point or whatever. Those actually lead to 451 00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:02.279 revelatory moments for those care there. And so those are scenes that are specifically 452 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:06.440 written for reload. And one of the things I mentioned in my review is 453 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:10.960 that those new scenes have like have a have a heightened quality quality because they 454 00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:15.759 were written. And so when you have the contrast for old social links that 455 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.240 are pretty much the same as they were in the original game, and then 456 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:23.079 in twenty twenty four you have these kind of thoughtful and touching moments with with 457 00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:28.039 your bros, there is there's a noticeable contrast and quality you could tell what 458 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:32.519 was newly written. But those are also the ways in which you get new 459 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:38.079 perks for like their theogy attacks and they got stat boosts and it's it's like 460 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:42.799 super helpful stuff. So I highly recommend seeking that stuff out. That's a 461 00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.119 big new thing too, that Theorgy, which I just got a little while 462 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:50.799 ago. Yeah, they have added limit breaks to Persona, which you know, 463 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:52.519 it makes all the sense in the world. Of course, give everyone 464 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.480 like a flashy super attack in Persona that just yeah, of course that clicks, 465 00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:01.319 and that's that's one of those layers that stuff that I think really starts 466 00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:06.039 flashing this out. But I did want to address in the live chat here 467 00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:09.119 there was a little confusion. It looks like people might have known because of 468 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:13.920 how we're talking about this being very faithful to the original. You can control 469 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:19.240 your teammates, to be clear, like faith a person of three portable where 470 00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:24.079 that was also implemented. Yeah, any like core gameplay stuff you would expect 471 00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:29.000 out of Persona nowadays, is there? So yeah, controlling your teammates, 472 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:31.480 the baton passing which is now called shift and all that stuff in addition to 473 00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:36.720 the new stuff like the RTSY. But I mean go ahead, jam oh 474 00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:37.880 no, No, I just didn't know that that was a thing of the 475 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:44.279 original Persona three. That sounds curia, yeah, which I mean why Persona 476 00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.039 three rules and might always rule? Is the aesthetics, right? I mean, 477 00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:50.720 I can't tell you the smile I had on my face when I was 478 00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:52.160 in the school and I was hearing that song for the first time. That's 479 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:57.920 done I was like, oh my gosh, I remember, just like it's 480 00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.640 not tough than just like a song, especially kind of like a low five 481 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.880 song kind of gives me goosebumps. But dude, gosh, this soundtrack is 482 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:10.280 an all time great one. And plus having like that kind of flashyar UI 483 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:14.920 elements, right, Persona five killed it with the UI and UX right, 484 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.079 you have more of that in here too. The game just looks so good 485 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:22.159 with things like battle transitions and some of these UI effects, even just in 486 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:27.760 dialogue right then the menus like that is so much about what makes Persona incredible 487 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.679 to me, it's just how incredibly good they are at aesthetics. Yeah, 488 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:36.360 and speaking of like to touch, since you touched on the music, I 489 00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.480 think that's one of the that is part of the Persona experience, Like the 490 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:43.639 music is part of that the series storytelling. In a way I've said this 491 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:49.679 before on After Dark this week, is that the singer. Each Persona game 492 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:53.000 has a specific singer for that soundtrack. It almost feels like that singer is 493 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:57.800 a narrator for this story because when you listen to what these songs are about 494 00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.960 and what they're saying, they're kind of telling this story of what's happening in 495 00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:06.159 that game, and they have a new singer, Osumi Takahashi, who's taking 496 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.760 over for Yui Kawa Mura, who has a very distinct voice, and a 497 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:13.480 lot of P three diehards such as myself, were like, ah, I'm 498 00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.039 open to the idea of having a new singer for this soundtrack, but after 499 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:17.920 like spending seventy hours of this game, like, oh no, no, 500 00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.840 she's part of the Persona family now, like for sure, And some some 501 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.199 of the re recording of the old songs might be take a little take some 502 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:29.559 getting used to, just because that's how we know Persona three to be. 503 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:35.159 But the brand new tracks they recorded for Reload are some of the some of 504 00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:38.920 the best Persona songs period. The nighttime theme with and lotus juices back, 505 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:43.920 who's the rapper who is on three and Q and Q two, Yeah, 506 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:47.440 he's back too, and that Foel's got some wild bars, that Fee's got 507 00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:51.960 some wild bars. But his flow is like so distinct and his voice is 508 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:53.559 so distinct, and he even sings on some of these tracks too. I'm 509 00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:58.719 like, oh shit, he's got pipes. Yeah. So the soundtrack, 510 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.079 like the new songs, especially the color of Night, which is the nighttime 511 00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:07.199 theme when you're roaming around, is one of the sweetest tracks songs I've ever 512 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:09.639 heard in a Persona game. Like it. I tear up listening to that 513 00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:13.320 thing, because when you listen to what that song is about, and you 514 00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.320 have when you have finished this game, and if you know what happens in 515 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.000 the story of this game, and you listen to a lot of these songs, 516 00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.920 it gives me chills. Man. And so yeah, when it's like 517 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.360 you need someone get your back, and you know I got your back in 518 00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:30.400 the cry, imaginic crowd goes yeah, this is It's so sweet. It's 519 00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:37.480 very very sweet. Even the so the opening song for the intro movie, 520 00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:45.280 like, I cannot watch that ope without breaking down completely. It is the 521 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:50.119 It is the purest representation of Persona three. Like the entire story, the 522 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.880 entire history of Persona three is represented in that animation and in that song. 523 00:36:54.000 --> 00:37:00.199 It is. It is the best op I've seen ever in a Persona game. 524 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.360 It is one of the best songs ever in the series Dancing though, 525 00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:12.039 Three Dancing, you know what I'm saying, Like I maintained Three Dancing is 526 00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:19.000 the best soundtrack. So what what do you. What do you guys think 527 00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.280 about the new voice cast here? I thought it was very good. It's 528 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.559 interesting how some a lot of them, like you told me they were new 529 00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:30.519 voice actors, like maybe wouldn't even know. Some of them, like Goes, 530 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.800 sounded like different but still really work for me. I think getting a 531 00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:37.199 new voice or the chairman is really good because he always sounded weird as helped 532 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.199 me in the Yeah, the majority of them are sound a likes, but 533 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:44.239 Akiko is the one that kind of stands out because if you used to that 534 00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:47.119 like sort of raspier voice, like this does sound a little bit. It's 535 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.480 not like that one guy from the from like the do It Yourself the d 536 00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:52.880 I I commercials or something. I think it was Home Deep. It's not 537 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:58.480 like the Home Deeper commercial guy. To me, I googled it the first 538 00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:00.360 time I heard that commercial, like, I think that's Akey from PRISONA. 539 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:07.199 But damn, I actually dedicated a whole paragraph in my review to talk about 540 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.719 the voice cast because I think from front to back, the casting, the 541 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:19.119 recasting for this entire game is damn near perfect. There's a lot of you 542 00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:22.519 know, these voices were originally recorded in like two thousand and six when this 543 00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:27.360 game first came out, and so a lot has changed, Like a lot 544 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.280 of those voice actors are a lot more prominent now, especially like Liam O'Brien 545 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:34.239 who does make a cameo in reload. There's just a lot of those voice 546 00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.039 actors are in different places now and some of them are just like you would 547 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.440 not want to associate with. I'll say you that much, okay. And 548 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:45.360 so from front back they did a whole recasting, and I think calling them 549 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:51.039 sounded likes is doing a disservice to how they both embody the original vision of 550 00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.760 that character and then make it their own, And especially once you start to 551 00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:59.920 what's the balls gets rolling on the more dramatic story moments in this game. 552 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.119 As you get later and later into it, the more they kind of really 553 00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:07.440 step into these roles, especially with someone like Yukari, who has a lot 554 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.800 of baggage with her and she expresses that a lot at certain points in the 555 00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.800 story. Her and Mitsuru have so much drama together and the way they go 556 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.679 back and forth is very believable. That's another thing too, is that the 557 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:24.519 voice cast expresses these characters in very realistic ways. So when Yukari is arguing 558 00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:29.239 with someone, it feels like that's coming from the heart, and someone like 559 00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:31.599 Junepe who's like a goofy ass dude who says like dumb shit, like you 560 00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.199 really believe, like, oh, he is a dumb ass, and then 561 00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:38.880 when he gets serious, that dude has the biggest heart in the entire crew. 562 00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:45.079 And that's across the board like something. I really like Igus's new voice 563 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:49.400 actor. The one thing I did kind of miss was having the more robotic 564 00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.519 aspect to her voice, because I guess is the robot, but I think 565 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.719 like Don Bennett steps into the role to give it a little bit more emotion, 566 00:39:55.840 --> 00:40:00.599 that still feels like I guess as I remember her. So yeah, 567 00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:06.159 I think it's I'm super impressed because that was one of the things I was 568 00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:07.960 worried about it, like, oh, I'm so attached to who these original 569 00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:10.760 voices were. Let's see how they can do it. I think it's a 570 00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:14.639 good idea to recast the entire thing, but let's see how they can hold 571 00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:19.360 up. And one killed it, especially Fuka. Fuka is probably the most 572 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:23.000 improved character to me, Like she was cool back back back in the original 573 00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:28.079 games, but now it's like I adore Fuka, Like she's one of my 574 00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:31.880 favorite characters now because of Susan Young who kind of re just like it's a 575 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:36.920 complete like retake of that character. Uh, and she does an incredible job 576 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:42.559 of embodying who Fuka is. Yeah, that's awesome to hear. I saw. 577 00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:44.920 I'm not that far yet. I got my code later, so I'm, 578 00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:49.599 you know, earlier than than even Sean and jan Are haven't gotten Fuki 579 00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:53.159 yet. But Fuka was kind of a sticking point B and the original You're 580 00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:59.599 like, did they fix Fuka like that? Yeah, something about her, 581 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.639 I don't know. She's like a seventy year old woman and yeah, that's 582 00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:08.320 what I said. Yeah, but now she's original Fuka out then she sounds 583 00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:14.039 a lot like Haru from a persona five different voice actors, but it's very 584 00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.199 similar vibe as did have Fuka vibes, not like in a terrible way, 585 00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:22.280 but she had some vibes. Yeah, so they sound similar. Yeah there. 586 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.639 I think the voice acting in general, like Michael said, like just 587 00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:28.840 things are so different with voice acting now that the quality is going to be 588 00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:32.400 higher because direction is better and everything like that, Like the performances are incredible 589 00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:36.239 to be clear, sound alike. When I said that, only in terms 590 00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.440 of like they try to like think, Mike said that if you say it, 591 00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:44.679 Mike said, okay, never mind. It was a completely vallid thing 592 00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.199 to say. No, definitely, only in the sense that like they want 593 00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:52.039 people who like sounded similar to the original voice actor so it won't be super 594 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:53.360 jarring. Again. Akko is like the one where it's like, oh, 595 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:55.960 that's very different. That was the first one. I was like, okay, 596 00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.519 like if yeah, if going in you told me it was the same 597 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:04.239 voice act and had been long enough since I played one. Thought a lot 598 00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.159 of these were the same ones where I was like, oh, they recast 599 00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:08.159 some of them, and then yeah, you know, I looked it up 600 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:10.039 afterwards. I'm like, oh, no, no, they they didn't. 601 00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:15.800 Yeah, it's entirely recast and they do perform just absolutely in correctly. I 602 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.880 mean, it's it's very you can tell. You can start telling when like 603 00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.280 you get to someone like June Pay where I thought Jumpey Jupey does always sounded 604 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.280 like a tool in the originally does always sounded like the goofy dude. But 605 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:30.199 now, yeah, Jumpey has ranged now and he actually like yeah, and 606 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.800 they there are small changes to the story and everything like that, both to 607 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.280 accommodate things like the orgy and all those new, smaller new concepts that they 608 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:42.719 did add in, but also did I actually did do some comparisons. That's 609 00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.239 why I'm a little farther behind. I stopped and did some of this stuff. 610 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:50.440 Like I looked at scenes from the original compared to reload, and there 611 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.519 there's a lot of just like the scene is exactly the same, the script 612 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.559 is exactly the same, but these new performances are just so much better that 613 00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:02.079 it just drives some of these moments home so much better. And it sells 614 00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:07.760 it because Persona is it's half visual novel, really, and you need if 615 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.119 you're gonna have it mostly fully voice acted, which a lot of this is 616 00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:15.159 like I think even more so in Persona five Royal maybe, which perhaps because 617 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:19.679 a smaller game that makes sense, but it's just they did such a great 618 00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.840 job. But I love it. I think the the part that I've gotten 619 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:28.679 hung up about in my my time with the game is, uh, everything 620 00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:30.760 else and in real life is very dour. Uh. And I think where 621 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.760 I'm currently at with with the game is I'm just waiting for like the those 622 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:40.079 little moments and those big payoffs. But to hear everyone talking so glowingly about 623 00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:45.320 it. I think it's also because it came out probably the worst time after 624 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:50.199 Like a Dragon, because Like a Dragon is such a like a dumb himbo 625 00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.239 game of like, let's fucking do it, guys, we got it, 626 00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:58.000 I love you, uh. And then like it's you know, the darker 627 00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:02.599 This is the darker persona by far, like like, you know, for 628 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:07.360 deal four deals with like a murder mystery, so obviously not the lightest thing 629 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.599 in the world, and whimsical though it's it's yeah, it's got whimsy in 630 00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:13.800 the day for sure. And then five, you know, five addresses some 631 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.760 serious topics, you know, like like abuse from your superiors. It is 632 00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:20.559 all a big theme of five and a lot of that stuff. But three 633 00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:22.599 is just I mean, all you need to see is that, you know, 634 00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:24.719 the devoker is a device they put to their head that looks like they're 635 00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:30.960 shueing themselves dart Yeah like hell, like Dan said, yeah, it goes 636 00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:34.280 places. Yeah, okay, all right. That's that's good to know because 637 00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.599 every time I pause the game to save and just think about whether or not 638 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:42.760 I want to keep playing I'm staring at that menu and it's like this whole 639 00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:49.519 game is dripping in swag, you know, and like, Mike, you 640 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.239 nailed it. It does bring me back to like that kind of like Y 641 00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.760 two k ish two thousand and six era that after like one of my sessions 642 00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:59.800 with the game, I wound up going on eBay kind of looking for cool 643 00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:04.199 and P three players I'm never going to use. Yeah yeah, but like 644 00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.239 it just yeah, okay, all right, like yeah, uh, what 645 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:14.039 if I told you that Persona three has always been my comfort game? Yeah 646 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.119 no, no, no, it's I don't think that's odd. Yeah that 647 00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:20.280 checks out. Yeah yeah, when you're in the daytime segments like I get 648 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.079 that because it's chill, super chill. Yeah. I've replayed. I've replayed 649 00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:29.760 fest and Portable a total of four times the lively it was always like my 650 00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:34.639 comfort game to go to. So playing reload though, talking about like the 651 00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.119 darkness and like how you know you have to I guess you have to be 652 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:43.239 in a certain mood to really accept P three on its own, to it 653 00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:46.159 on its term media at it's on its on its terms, because it is 654 00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:51.599 it does handle a lot of things that might hit very close to some people, 655 00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:54.400 and I think for me, I dedicated a lot of this to my 656 00:45:54.440 --> 00:46:00.239 review. It's talking about how playing this because it's almost one to one the 657 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.880 same story, but it is a completely different experience for me. A lot 658 00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:07.840 has changed in my life since the last time I played Persona three, so 659 00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:14.480 I have a like a fresh perspective on the same exact story, and it 660 00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:19.559 hits completely It hit completely different now that we're like, I know what it's 661 00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.039 like to go through loss, I know what tragedy feels like. I know 662 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.719 how to handle those things. I know how how much it breaks you down 663 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:31.880 because this whole game is there's constantly people dying around you, people losing loved 664 00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:37.760 ones, having to grieve, having to move on so fast from the life 665 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.119 and P three. Back then, it was like I felt like this intense 666 00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.639 sadness when when something tragic happens in the story, I'm like, oh man, 667 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:47.960 that's that's so sad. I feel terrible for that character. But now 668 00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:52.880 when those things happen and I see that happen in this story, I'm like, 669 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.199 oh no, I get it now. I know that this character who 670 00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:00.280 is handling it this specific way, I know exactly how that feels it just 671 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:05.239 so powerful that back in two thousand and six they nailed it with how they 672 00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.760 told this story and what they did with it, and it kind of in 673 00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.519 a way, it really puts P four to shame. I hate it, 674 00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:14.519 say I got a fucking P four poster in the back here. I love 675 00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:19.960 that game too, But in retrospect, they hit something. They hit a 676 00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.360 like bigger topics like life, death and how to make the most of the 677 00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:27.239 time that you have left. How do you handle your life when you know 678 00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.119 you're about to die? And I think that like the social link with Aki 679 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:35.000 Nari, who's the guy chilling and who has a terminal illness, Like, 680 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.239 holy shit, dude, Like I have a different perspective on that with the 681 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.599 health issues that I've gone through, and now I understand what he's thinking. 682 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:43.679 Back then, I'm like, oh, this is so sad. Now I'm 683 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:45.920 like, oh shit, I can learn something from this guy. And then 684 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:51.119 so as you go through this whole story, it's it's dark, there's a 685 00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:53.559 lot of death around it, but I think once it starts to come around, 686 00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:57.599 it's about how you make the most of your time and how to appreciate 687 00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:00.519 life. I think just Howard who did the review for a game spot. 688 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.639 I read a review and I think she quoted the Iliad and it's one of 689 00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:12.960 the most beautiful ways to summarize Persona three is that everything is more beautiful because 690 00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.880 we are doomed. And I think that's one of the themes about the game, 691 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:20.119 is accepting the inevitability of death. So what are you going to do 692 00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:24.039 in the meantime? And that's what these all these characters in their own ways 693 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.519 go through that whole process throughout the game. It is one of the most 694 00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.760 mature stories, not like oh, violence and darkness, but it has grown 695 00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:36.239 up in that way that stands the test of time. I call it timeless 696 00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.639 and powerful and all these other words in my review, but I really do 697 00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:43.079 feel that that way. And I think the problem is, though, you 698 00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:45.840 got to get through the gameplay to see all that stuff, so I tell 699 00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.400 you, and like all jokes aside, I totally get the reservations that people 700 00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:54.519 have from a gameplay perspective, and so yeah, yeah, And for folks 701 00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:58.280 confuse this to like my negative feelings on the game, it's purely from a 702 00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:04.239 gameplay perspective of just navigating through Tartarus and having that anxiety when it comes to 703 00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.480 managing social links, and now hearing from y'all that like, Okay, just 704 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:12.239 go with the ones that I'm vibing with more so than feeling like I have 705 00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:15.119 to max out every single person just because I don't want to miss out on 706 00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:20.400 fusions and all that jazz. Okay, Like I'll circle back to it, 707 00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:24.079 and yeah, I when when I booted up the game and then they have 708 00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:29.039 like a line or something about, uh, what you do with your time? 709 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:31.559 I kind of just like, oh man, I gotta go smoke a 710 00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:37.079 cigarette. Smoke. It's just like, okay, all right, it's one 711 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:40.440 of the it's gonna be one of these games to use this game. Huh, 712 00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:45.039 you haven't even gotten to like the good ass parts of the story jam 713 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:47.639 Like, okay, it's it's not that far off. I think if I 714 00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:52.360 recall correctly, within the next ten hours, you will get to like all 715 00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:54.480 of the big plot points that sort of crib the rest of the plot forward. 716 00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:59.039 So yeah, we'll like you mean being around the same area we are 717 00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:02.039 at. Like, basically it's silly to say about a persona game, but 718 00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:07.039 it's always the case. We've basically gotten through the tutorial here. Yeah, 719 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.440 yeah, and like you know, that's that's also like ties back into like 720 00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:15.199 a conversation We've had a lot with Backlar about like a Dragon infinite Wealth. 721 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:20.119 You know, you do have to invest a good chunk of time to get 722 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:24.440 through the tutorialization of a game. Uh And unfortunately, fortunately that's the same 723 00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:30.199 case with this. I don't think Persona three would necessarily grab grubs attention as 724 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:36.639 much as I mean, you and Mike would know best, as as much 725 00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:39.119 as Infinite Wealth has no no, it's not you know, it doesn't have 726 00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:46.199 it doesn't have the death raating to loss so random guitar. So okay. 727 00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:51.400 My question for for y'all here, like, is this a good jumping on 728 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.039 point for someone that has been PERSONA curious or is this kind of like a 729 00:50:54.159 --> 00:51:00.880 victory lap for P three fans. It's not gonna be quite as maybe flashy 730 00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:04.239 in some ways as five is. I think it's a pure PERSONA experience in 731 00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.440 a lot of ways, also a smaller person experience, which maybe is going 732 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:09.239 to make it more prosperable. I mean, this is definitely what PERSONA is 733 00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:14.719 and just you know, and from that sake and from being the newest one 734 00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:17.079 and in a lot of ways. Personly three, you know, Michael's been 735 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:22.039 talking about us, it did do things better than four or five really ever 736 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.039 did, even with all the improvements that would come from it in a mechanics 737 00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:28.199 kind of way. So yeah, I don't think there's any way you're going 738 00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.159 to like play this one and not like it, but like, oh, 739 00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:34.599 a Persona four five would really win you over. This is Persona in a 740 00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:42.599 very here, very sincere form. I disagree a little bit with the sentiment. 741 00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.239 I would say that, like if someone if the question is someone like 742 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:49.880 has never played a Persona game and they've been looking into the series, I 743 00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:53.039 do think five Royal is still the best, jumping on points, despite the 744 00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:57.760 fact that it's such a much longer game, you know, like on average 745 00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:04.000 probably like thirty or forty hours long. It's significantly bigger. There's a lot, 746 00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:06.840 there's a lot I'm trying to remember, like what what I clocked in 747 00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:09.800 at at the end there, oh jeez. But I think because three is 748 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:15.679 a significantly more linear game, there's less, you know, side content, 749 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:20.960 there's you can even feel a streamlining, and the fact that they didn't change 750 00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:24.360 how like the strip mall is laid out. It's still just like a wall 751 00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:28.320 of stores and you like walk up to one and go in. It's not 752 00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:31.199 like Percona five where you're like wandering around downtown Tokyo and stuff like that. 753 00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:37.519 I still think that that five Royal is still the best jumping on point for 754 00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.440 the series. But with P three Reload, I mean, you kind of 755 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:44.480 already know if you're gonna play it, because Persona fans, it doesn't matter 756 00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:47.800 what we say here, You're gonna play it no matter what. Like game 757 00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:52.079 Pass people are probably gonna check it out and download. They're into RPGs right 758 00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:57.119 now games, so like you can just go check it out, and I 759 00:52:57.119 --> 00:53:01.440 don't know, it's it's a stiffer person I would say, just on the 760 00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:07.039 whole because of things like Tartaris. It's interesting to go back to this in 761 00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:10.000 this form. I was I've been hoping for a long long time that we 762 00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:15.119 would get a Persona three remake, and like when the four Golden Port and 763 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.159 the three Portable Port were announced, I was like, oh, that's not 764 00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:22.840 what I want. But we also got the announcement three reload around the same 765 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:24.159 time, or I think it was around the same time, I don't remember. 766 00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:29.239 But after yeah, it was something I look forward to. I was 767 00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:35.039 hoping though that we talk about different remakes and remasters, reimaginings. In the 768 00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:40.719 case of like seven remake, this is a redo. Basically, this is 769 00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:45.960 like I like the team looked at the design docs the original ones, which 770 00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:50.000 maybe they even did, but hypothetically it feels like they look at the design 771 00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:53.519 docks for the original game and we're told we're making this game in modern day, 772 00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:57.760 that we're getting everything we know about making grpgs we're going to put into 773 00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.440 this one. But as a result, it really feels like while I was 774 00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:06.280 hoping for some the type of upgrade similar to say Residi Evil two to to 775 00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:08.880 remake, where it is that reimagining. It is the spirit of the old 776 00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:12.639 game, the story of the old game, but the gameplay is significantly changed 777 00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:16.079 to be more modern. This is more like an RI four to four remake, 778 00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:22.599 where it's not a radically different game, it is just visuals are way 779 00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:25.639 prettier than they've ever been, the gameplay is refined, and there are there 780 00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:29.840 is that bous content, but it's like there is that a little bit of 781 00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:31.639 This is kind of the game that I had in my head from back in 782 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:36.199 the day. That's because it is so similar to the original while just like 783 00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:39.440 rounding off those rough edges. Yeah, I think I think, I think, 784 00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:44.639 yeah, that's pretty much on point, like when trying to encapsulate, 785 00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:47.679 like, oh what how much of a remake is this actually and putting you 786 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:52.280 say, look like you said as a redo, but also very much that 787 00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:55.159 original design dog exists, but now with the current generation of visuals, like 788 00:54:55.199 --> 00:55:00.639 that's a pretty good way to put it. And then so I think it 789 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:02.679 depends on just how much stock someone puts into those kinds of things. And 790 00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:07.320 I do agree that. I think P five Royal is the one I would 791 00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.239 always recommend as someone's first persona because I think it's best. Yeah, it's 792 00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:14.440 front to back, like gameplay wise, the social stuff, the story is 793 00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:20.039 trying to tell visually, music, everything like that is a that is as 794 00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:23.880 close to that game is just it's a masterpiece for sure. I Vida gave 795 00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:28.000 it a ten on game Spot for a goddamn reason, right, Yeah, 796 00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:30.760 and it is always the one I'm going to recommend, And it's still like 797 00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:35.920 a very powerful story that comes along with that. But yeah, it's and 798 00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:38.480 so like if you have that, if you have room in your heart for 799 00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:42.760 a persona P three reload is probably gonna click with you. If this is 800 00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:45.239 your first time you have you don't know what to get into. It's probably 801 00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:46.960 fifty to fifty shot. But it's also hard to just put myself in other 802 00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:52.400 people's shoes because I don't know what their expectations are. Sure, I mean 803 00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:54.519 I would if you're interested. I would one thousand percent say yeah, give 804 00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:58.039 it a try if you're interested, especially if if you have game Pass. 805 00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:04.880 But I do tell some people that to some degree, like give it a 806 00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:09.599 chance, and also understand that there are aspects that are still pretty dated because 807 00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:15.760 of how faithful it is to that original design. So okay, some of 808 00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:17.000 that stuff does come through and I'm playing, I'm like, oh fuck, 809 00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:22.039 like you know this is There are a lot of aspects of this game that 810 00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:25.320 I think make it the kind of remake that I was hoping for. But 811 00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:28.800 at the same time, I understand that comes with some coffee oats, Like, 812 00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:30.719 yes, in some ways, it still feels like the PS two game. 813 00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:35.280 Anythink, as you get later on in the story, when you start 814 00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.119 to kind of check things off of your list and you're almost like done with 815 00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:42.920 social link routes, you're done upping your stats. The original design starts to 816 00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.239 starts to see you start to see through the design of the game and like, 817 00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:49.440 ah, damn, well, I guess I'm just gonna burn time so 818 00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:52.719 I can get to the next story event that does happen. And I think 819 00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:58.000 that's just a product of sticking to the original a little too much. But 820 00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:01.599 at the same time, like this is yeah, P three is P three 821 00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:07.320 is so much more to me than that that in a way I can not 822 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.760 excuse them. It's still part of the critique, but they don't bother me 823 00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:14.960 as much as they may have may bother other people going into this. So 824 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:17.960 okay, yeah, it's it's still the best way to play Persona three, 825 00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:22.199 even if it is missing the answer from three fats, which hey, that 826 00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:24.039 was bad, so we don't really miss that. But even if it's missing 827 00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:29.320 the female protagonist route and everything that came along with then all the new scenes, 828 00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:31.320 this is still the way that you would want to hop into this game 829 00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:35.559 if you are interested, whether you're a PERSONA fan or you are you know, 830 00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:39.800 so are just checking things out. Yeah, and I appreciate the route 831 00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:45.199 they took for this remake. There's just something about playing Persona three again and 832 00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:49.280 having it feel like that game. Because Persona three, I remember the excitement 833 00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.559 just around that releasing, how kind of caught off guard everybody was, right, 834 00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:55.559 like the third entry in the series that even a lot of you know, 835 00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:59.800 JRPG fans didn't know much about, and all of a sudden it was 836 00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:02.960 the kind of the hot topic, this late Yes two game that suddenly had 837 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.559 all this sort of style and this different vibe for a JERPG than we were 838 00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:10.800 really used to ever seeing. And it, you know, it took off 839 00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:15.000 from there and then slowly grew and to this point now where Persona is an 840 00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:20.760 absolute juggernaut in the JRPG space. Just really cool revisiting where that all really 841 00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:22.920 started here, you know. Okay, all right, all this all this 842 00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:29.320 talk about P three, I'll stick with it, y'all. Start out with 843 00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:32.360 a hot take. I got one over I dude, Jane. You know, 844 00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:37.280 like I play big comfy chair back there for like the big story stuff 845 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:38.559 and everything like that. And then when Tartars comes up, Hey, steam 846 00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:44.840 deck could before bed just try to way to fantastic game on the steam deck 847 00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.239 right, like so good. I've been playing on my ally and it's been 848 00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:52.239 very nice. It's always a problem, but yes, very well. Listen, 849 00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:55.159 this is a very specific thing, but we'll say and I recommend this 850 00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:59.840 for Persona games in general. If you can play this on an OLED screen, 851 00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:02.840 goddamn you need to do so, because I got an old TV and 852 00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:07.320 an O LED switch and a not O LAD monitor and let me tell you 853 00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:10.400 it looks away hors on this. It does on either of those, so 854 00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:15.239 if your's really popped. They do a lot of interesting things with like colors 855 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:20.159 and uh that comes through a lot of the personality. So yeah, I 856 00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:22.480 would second that as well. We want to answer a few specific questions. 857 00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:27.360 We got the game thing here totally. Yeah, I can throw these out 858 00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:30.360 and I bet like more you guys can answer. But Kane hi one was 859 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:34.280 wondering if Michael can answer quick question. Is it as strict as the original 860 00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:37.800 Persona three with regards to maxing out all s links or did they loosen it 861 00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:43.199 up a bit? I think I can't. I can't scientifically answer this, 862 00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:46.920 but it feels like I had a lot easier of a time one ranking up 863 00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:51.960 my social stats because they give you so many more options to do it as 864 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:57.960 well. But also two, I just felt like I've less frequently ran into 865 00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:00.800 that instance where you go up to sell when you want to hang out with 866 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:02.039 them, and then it'll say in the textbox like, hey, you're not 867 01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:06.119 gonna be able to advance your rank with them, but you could still hang 868 01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:08.880 out and eventually you will rank up with them. I feel like I encountered 869 01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:14.480 that fewer times, so in a way, like I didn't try to min 870 01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:15.800 max this when I when I reviewed the game, I just went with my 871 01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:20.519 heart. I feel like I got more done. That could also be a 872 01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:24.039 product of me playing this game four fucking times and just like knowing how to 873 01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:28.119 go through it. But it feels like I think I maxed out my social 874 01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:31.760 stats way earlier than I ever did in any of the other versions, Like 875 01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:36.960 you need to get like max ranked with all three stats to start your social 876 01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:42.559 link with Fuka, Yukari and Mitsuru, And I remember playing the older versions 877 01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:45.840 and when Mitsuru's social link opens up, I was like, shit, I'm 878 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.519 still at rank five for academics. I need to be a genius to hang 879 01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:52.719 out with her. And then I was like rushing to up that so I 880 01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.639 can start that social link. But I maxed out Academics and like October and 881 01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:58.880 her shit doesn't start till the end of November. So I was like, 882 01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:01.119 oh, I'm already ready to hang out with Mitsuru. She wasn't ready for 883 01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:07.960 me. So oh, how the tables have turned. So I do feel 884 01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:12.119 like I think it's easier, but I cannot scientifically say yes, But with 885 01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.840 my heart I will say yes. All right? How about our rules? 886 01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:17.719 Here wants to know if I'm a gamer on a budget, how viable is 887 01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:22.840 it to pick up the original Persona three probably meaning portable here instead, there's 888 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:27.239 no reason to This is the best version. It's on game Pass as the 889 01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:29.559 cheapest way of playing peron. I will say, they don't maybe they don't 890 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.000 have game Pass. I mean, do you guys think that you wouldn't even 891 01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:37.440 consider telling somebody to just play Persona three portable anymore? It would just be 892 01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:39.559 like I would maybe just wait for a sale on this or wait a few 893 01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:43.559 years on this one. I don't know why you would go back to portable 894 01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:46.280 anymore. I think there's no reason too. The only thing I will say 895 01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:52.239 is that you I still think there's a lot of value inportable because of the 896 01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:57.320 female route. Because I've said this many times in various capacities, But the 897 01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:05.400 female protagonist for Persona three Portable is probably besides Maya from Persona two. I 898 01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:08.920 think she's the best Persona protagonist period because they actually give her a personality, 899 01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:15.360 and they rewrite a lot almost all the social links for the female protagonists, 900 01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:20.800 so you have very different conversations with the female characters throughout the entire game, 901 01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.480 and I think it's a lot more thoughtful in that way too. And also 902 01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:28.719 just like the dialogue options you get, and her design is great, and 903 01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:32.880 the new music that comes along with the Female Route Importable is all fantastic, 904 01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:37.320 So it's a very different perspective on the same story. But it's hard to 905 01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:42.159 recommend still when something like Reload comes out, Like if you play Reload and 906 01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:44.760 you're like, holy shit, I love p three with all my heart, 907 01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:47.239 I want more of it, but it's done, then I would say, 908 01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:51.320 hey, go play the female Route in Portable because there's some new, cool 909 01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.599 shit that still is some of the best that the series has ever done, 910 01:02:53.599 --> 01:03:00.239 and I think it's some of the best writing for a female character in the 911 01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:04.400 Persona series, which has historically not been so great, and they kind of 912 01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:09.199 hit a lot of great topics with some like with some sharpness in the female 913 01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:15.360 route for Portable, but yeah, that's our That's ot of what's to lament 914 01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:19.320 here about Reload is that, hey, it would have been really damn cool 915 01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.239 if that was in this game and this was just the definitive version that we've 916 01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:24.800 always wanted. But instead, Yeah, going back to that, any of 917 01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:30.159 the content that's not in here that's importable, that's almost like supplemental reading at 918 01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:34.280 this point, I think where like they're so much Arilos, so much has 919 01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:37.760 done quality of life wise, it is just so much better to play than 920 01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:40.280 the older versions of whether you're talking about the original, Fez, Portable, 921 01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:44.559 any of them. Like this is the way to go, and it's it's 922 01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:49.840 accessible, and you know, I get if you're doing other ways to place 923 01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:52.880 or in older games, I get, Okay, yeah that technically is cheaper. 924 01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:58.880 But on the whole likes, I'm just saying, Jeff grubs down this 925 01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:00.320 podcast, so I got I got the one to bring it up. You 926 01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:08.119 know, yeah, game pass fire up some stream and like it's it's pretty 927 01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.920 accessible now. Yes, One thing is really is really funny when you mentioned 928 01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:15.400 Tartars, like going back to the old Tartars is kind of miserable, like 929 01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:19.920 yeah, they're later, Like yeah, they're just like mazes and mazes. 930 01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:24.360 Each floor is a fucking maze, And like I noticed and reload, the 931 01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:28.119 higher you ascend in Tartaris, the shorter the floors get. It's almost like 932 01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:31.119 the game real like it feels like that way. There's a lot of instances 933 01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:33.199 where it's like, oh, hey, those are the stairs, it's just 934 01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:38.000 down the hall. Yeah. I did notice that I at least felt like 935 01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:41.719 I was progressing through it a little faster because now I'm in what the forties 936 01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:44.800 or whatever, I'm like, I'm just starting to Yeah, I'm starting to 937 01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:47.480 cruise here. So okay, it feels like it gets a lot short, 938 01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:50.320 and I think it really does get a lot shorter, whereas the opposite happens 939 01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:55.239 with the old versions, where the higher you send, the more fucking complex 940 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:57.920 those a mazes get. And I'm just like, I don't know if I 941 01:04:57.960 --> 01:05:00.360 could recommend that in good conscious unless you want to play on it easy. 942 01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:04.000 But yeah, like we got any more questions. One more here from rad 943 01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:08.719 Josh Conney just says, I want to I hear they got rid of the 944 01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:13.400 condition slash stamina system. They also remove the free healing at the base of 945 01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:16.480 Tartarus. Is it more like coun percent of four handles healing and resource management 946 01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:24.199 in dungeons. We didn't talk about this alliot. Twilight Twilight Fragments, Yeah, 947 01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:28.199 that's something that encourages you to actually do a little more exploration, which 948 01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:30.440 is I think is kind of cool because in the overworld, you know, 949 01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:33.239 there's all there's all these different places to explore, and even if it's a 950 01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:36.920 little more shallow than say a percent of five or even a percent of four, 951 01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:41.360 the game encourages you to go to all these different places that you might 952 01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:44.920 not go because there's not a social ink or whatever, and to actually walk 953 01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:47.199 around at least and check out all the different you know, just walk up 954 01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:50.000 to it and you know, you press a yal a little bit flavor text. 955 01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:55.199 But now, Twilight Fragments are just these things scatter across the ground all 956 01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:59.320 throughout the overworld and when you pick them up or you get them from Elizabeth, 957 01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:01.079 because you know, they want to give you some the work with as 958 01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:04.519 you progress with the game. But you pick these things up and they can 959 01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:08.360 do things for you when you're in Tartaris, and so One of those things 960 01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:14.320 is the aforementioned healing your party. You spend seven Twilight fragments in the main 961 01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:17.079 lobby of Tartarists to get that full heel, or you can also else can 962 01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:21.760 the chest. There are specific chests all throughout targets that you can only unlock 963 01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:25.519 that you know normal treasure chests just walk out to it. For this, 964 01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:29.159 it's like you need x amount Twilight fragments, and then the more fragments you 965 01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:32.320 need to open usually the better the item is they get inside. Elizabeth is 966 01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:36.960 still the best velvet room attendant right, like easily one thousand percent. Like 967 01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:42.719 she is so goofy, she's so funny. Yeah, definitely, uh yeah. 968 01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:45.159 So another thing too, though, I would say, is like I 969 01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:51.559 do not recommend using spending twilight fragments on healing. I would suggest like finding 970 01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:58.280 more in clever ways to heal your party and restore sp because there will be 971 01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:01.800 times when you run out of Twilight fragments. Seven is a lot. There's 972 01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:04.239 a lot, and then the deeper you get into this game, the more 973 01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:09.920 of those special chests show up. And there's nothing worse than pulling up to 974 01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:14.400 a three star special chest and you have two Twilight fragments and you're like, 975 01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:16.800 damn, I know that the best weapon I could possibly get is in that 976 01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:21.719 chest. Yeah. Yeah, to go to the pharmacy on Saturday your stock 977 01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:27.639 up there, fragments? Yeah, that real quick, because IM wondering this 978 01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:30.639 too. Does Elizabeth still have the social link from fests in this Yeah, 979 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.559 well it's not a social link, but you take her out to hang out. 980 01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:38.800 Yeah, that's still there. It's it's the same as you remember, 981 01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:45.039 and it's still very adorable. Nice, lovely, lovely. Well, speaking 982 01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:49.039 about being adorable, is it an adorable group of folks we've assembled here today 983 01:07:49.079 --> 01:07:54.760 to talk about an adorable swaggy game? Michael him, would you say it's 984 01:07:54.800 --> 01:08:01.000 whimsical? It's probably light on the whimsy. I don't know what to tell 985 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:06.440 you. Man. It maybe quite as wisical as other RPGs, But uh 986 01:08:08.679 --> 01:08:11.800 no, I don't know if I could say that. That's not the word 987 01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:15.960 for persona. Don't paint the man into a corner like that. All right, 988 01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:18.319 all right, well, okay for PERSONA six, when that eventually comes 989 01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:23.159 out, what do you think the whimsy factor is here? It'll be higher 990 01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:28.439 than this. Here's my question for for for Michael PERSONA expert, PERSONA three, 991 01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:30.479 Blue, Persona four, Yellow, Persona five bread. What is the 992 01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:38.600 key color for PERSONA six? Color right now? Purple? Yeah, colors 993 01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:42.239 at some point they can't use green. That's soule hackers, that's ticking. 994 01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:45.880 Also, green is kind of like half P three because of the dark hour. 995 01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:53.199 True purple would be good. Yeah, might be an orange, pink, 996 01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:59.239 hot pink, maybe those Barbie Barbie vibes, right, I don't know, 997 01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:02.359 I'll be sick. P three p though, did pink for the pink 998 01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:09.600 for the female route? Bute just took all the colors? Okay. Well, 999 01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:15.640 last week when I had the panel describe uh like a dragon infinite wealth 1000 01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:18.880 with a series of emojis, I'm going to ask you gents to do the 1001 01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:27.439 same. Oh, the face emoji and then the gun emoji. Ill. 1002 01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:32.560 Yeah, I'll add a clock. Yeah, oh the midnight our little like 1003 01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:34.720 U. I animation, by the way, is very good. Yeah, 1004 01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:43.439 a lot and a scary ghost oh okay, speaker ghost. Is there specifically 1005 01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:47.039 a rapier emote or is that too specific? I think they have the cross 1006 01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:53.880 swords. I think that I need to represent ye. I know the other 1007 01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:56.439 games have it, and that's just just I know why they do, but 1008 01:09:56.560 --> 01:10:00.199 still always so funny. See Ukari just in her bright pink like jack it 1009 01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:03.039 in like the high school while every other person is wearing a uniform. It's 1010 01:10:03.079 --> 01:10:08.199 like, can you find the make here part of the party when they break 1011 01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:14.319 the dress code? Yeah? Ye, spot the anime protagonist who has colored 1012 01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:16.479 hair? Like who has the blue hair? Yeah? Oh? The funniest 1013 01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:20.880 is that yu Giah one of the oh my god, yeah in the crowd, 1014 01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:26.239 like who could it be? Uh? Well, damn, okay, 1015 01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:30.600 I've been convinced. I've been wooed to stick with PERSONA three, that is 1016 01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:35.079 until that is, perhaps until you know, we all need to devote some 1017 01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:43.079 more time to another gigantic rap. Yeah that remade right? Who knows? 1018 01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:47.279 I don't know. Yeah, my PS five can't take discs, so if 1019 01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:51.720 this is a multi disc joint, I can't fuck I don't know. Yeah, 1020 01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:56.800 uh, Michael him working, Folks. Find you on the internet these 1021 01:10:56.880 --> 01:11:00.439 days. You can find me and all my bullshit at Michael pw I'm on 1022 01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:04.279 Twitter and at hi am Michael on Instagram. You can find me writing words 1023 01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:10.399 and doing things and videos on gamespad dot com and IGN dot com as well. 1024 01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:14.520 Damn, damn, damn. Okay, Okay, Mikey, I was 1025 01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:17.119 gonna say apples. I'm not going to say it. Mikey meatballs, Mikey 1026 01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:23.760 meat monkey meatballs. That seems kind of that seems racially coded like meatballs. 1027 01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:29.600 I mean it's true. Hey, I want to really a real quick question 1028 01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:32.800 before the plugs. Mike, do you put breadcrumbs in a meatball? Or 1029 01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:34.960 is that yes? No? Okay, okay, yes, so no, 1030 01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:39.279 it's important for the for the right texture. You want to have some Uh 1031 01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:43.520 there's a whole video by Adam Orgucia where he did like experiments like ten percent 1032 01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:46.960 bread comes, twenty percent, fifty percent. He figured out the exact ratio. 1033 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:49.239 I forget what it was, maybe like twenty five percent. You need 1034 01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:53.600 some bread comes in there to help absorb moisture to get a good texture. 1035 01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:56.720 Yes, they're important. Okay, Okay, you were I interrupted your thought. 1036 01:11:56.760 --> 01:11:59.000 You were going to shout something out. Just I want everybody to check 1037 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:01.640 out the new Nineties Dizzy the podcast. It is about Castle Illusion. It's 1038 01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:05.760 about a video game, classic Genesis game, and it's many sequels and spin 1039 01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:09.960 offs and successors and things like that. So yeah, check out Nineties Disney 1040 01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:13.000 please. Un Last, but certainly not least, Turbo Sewan. Where can 1041 01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:15.199 Fox find you on the internet if you want to be found? That is 1042 01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:18.880 well, if people want to find me, I would be on Twitter dot 1043 01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:24.880 com as at Turbo Shawn Underscore and then Turbo Shan, s A Jawn everywhere 1044 01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:28.399 else, Blue Sky, Twitch, all you know the works, and then 1045 01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:31.640 professionally, hey you're all Ryan Right's place here a giant bomb editing doing social 1046 01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:34.880 media occasionally being on camera. As you can see, it's the best stuff. 1047 01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:40.359 It's the best stuff. Particularly check out the death stranding TikTok that Shawn 1048 01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:43.960 made. Oh yeah, that's popping off. I saw it this on when 1049 01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:45.119 I was like, oh, I feel light. Though, since I am 1050 01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:48.439 in the presence of Sean, I do want to formally thank you for representing 1051 01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:55.840 Octopath Traveler two in the Game of the Year. So helpful. I'm so 1052 01:12:55.960 --> 01:13:00.439 glad that that was awesome. Thank you for I want to thank you for 1053 01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:04.439 you know what I might give you ship for being a Disney adult, but 1054 01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:08.600 you know what you are true. You are true to yourself to the very 1055 01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:12.960 end, and I admire that and I think everyone can learn something from embracing 1056 01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:16.079 who they are. That's very true. Yes, Mike is are you good 1057 01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:20.680 on compliments for today? Are you good for till the weekend? Yeah? 1058 01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:26.319 I could still use a few more points from Dan the freaking whatever dash. 1059 01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:30.159 Let me just remove a point from your score. Go ahead and do it 1060 01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:34.760 preemptively. Dan's got to maybe jump on a plane this weekend. He has 1061 01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:40.159 no time to award or remove points. Right, we'll see, we'll see, 1062 01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:45.039 folks. That does it for this week's edition of bc R. Thank 1063 01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:46.960 you Sean, thank you Michael, and thank you Mike. Uh. Next 1064 01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:50.920 week on BCR, who knows what the heck we'll talk about. Maybe we'll 1065 01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:54.439 have another hot topic. If you want to suggest the topic, feel free 1066 01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:58.079 to shoot an email at bombcasta giant bomb dot com, at me on the 1067 01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:01.039 Twitter machine, or drop a comment. I rarely read the comments for my 1068 01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:03.199 own mental health, but I'll do it. I'll do it for you. 1069 01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:06.800 I do it. I'll see it. Thank you, Sean. There's been 1070 01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:12.720 some nice comments lately. I don't want to people are saying nice things about 1071 01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:15.359 us, Okay, see that That's what I was doing. Yeah, I 1072 01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:18.760 was fishing for them. I was fishing for the nice comments. I was 1073 01:14:18.840 --> 01:14:21.720 like, oh, well, I don't read. I don't read the threads, 1074 01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:26.119 I don't read the comments. I do I exhaustedly read. This is 1075 01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:29.720 why he's the producer. I just need to make sure that like I don't 1076 01:14:29.760 --> 01:14:35.119 know, like I didn't show my ass one week or so. That's that's 1077 01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:43.600 super premium that we're rolling out. I don't fucking know. But folks, 1078 01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:47.479 we'll see uh on Tuesday for an episode of The Giant BombCast. I believe 1079 01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:50.239 Greb is going to be back doing gm M. I don't know if on 1080 01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:55.760 Monday, but we'll see. We'll see if he's uh back from being here 1081 01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:59.359 and stuff. All right, I've been janned, he's been Sewan, he's 1082 01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:06.600 been Michael. He he has also been Michael. We'll see you next week. Goodbye,