1 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Hey, everybody, it's Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. It is. 2 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,200 It is a mandate from here at giant bomb dot com. Welcome to 3 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:39,159 the Giant BombCast Revengeance. We have a lovely group of folks today. I 4 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,240 couldn't assemble a better group of people to talk about some of the games we 5 00:00:43,399 --> 00:00:48,600 will be chatting about today. I'm your host, Jim choa. Giant BombCast 6 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:53,359 Revengeance is brought to you by n c XT. Joining me today, powering 7 00:00:53,759 --> 00:00:58,479 up the the vultron that we are today, Turbo Sean McDowell. Yes, 8 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,679 empowering me is the nice Yuruba mate that I'm on now. Thanks for our 9 00:01:02,759 --> 00:01:10,000 Argentinian friends. I needed this today. Our own Argentinian adjacent friend, Michael 10 00:01:10,079 --> 00:01:15,840 him is here. Shit, I'll take it. Hey, listen, sometimes, 11 00:01:17,079 --> 00:01:19,000 you know, growing up, most people thought I was Mexican. So 12 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:25,040 that's you know, we're the Latinos of Asia. So I'll take Argentinian. 13 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:30,200 I'll take Diego there feels, and then the Latino of Asia, of Europe, 14 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:36,239 Mike Manati. Don't give that to him. I think that's right Italian, 15 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,439 that's Italian's absolutely yeah. As the only actual Latino here, I'll give 16 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,920 it to him, sure, Mike. I mean our Argentinian friend, Christian, 17 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,719 loves some story about like some Italian person about to be executed, like 18 00:01:51,799 --> 00:01:53,760 somewhere in like the Congo or something. That the last moment, some guy 19 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,239 like comes racing. It's like, wait, don't shoot him, he's not 20 00:01:57,359 --> 00:02:04,760 what he's Italian. That reminds me of that of that terrible Dragon Ball super 21 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:07,240 clip when they decided to, hey, let's go make a bad guy, 22 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:12,560 but let's just call him Goku Black. Yeah. Yeah, we don't need 23 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,560 You can find that clip online if you just search some specific keywords. It's 24 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,560 things are a little different in Japan. All I'm gonna say is, don't 25 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:22,159 don't look up what's call in Japan. You don't want to know, man, 26 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,319 you don't want to know. I actually don't know Pokemon. I'm gonna 27 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:34,319 look at it. No, let's keep it moving. Okay, things are 28 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:42,879 different. It's a different anyways Japan. What jall? Oh, Mike, 29 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,919 I just need to gauge your reaction to figure this out. Yeah. I 30 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,080 think it's just like Sparkling. It's just it's not whitey like I thought it 31 00:02:50,159 --> 00:02:53,360 might be. To be clear, the power of context, you can kind 32 00:02:53,360 --> 00:03:00,680 of discern what's name is Japanese Pokemon company in Japan? Maybe maybe maybe reevaluate 33 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:08,280 something we can rename Pokemon I think right. Uh, gents, we're gonna 34 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,280 we're here today to talk about Persona three reload, but before we talk about 35 00:03:13,319 --> 00:03:17,159 that big honkin game, anyone playing anything else? Anyone? How's everyone feeling 36 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,080 February? Now? Again, I'm tired, dog. I think I've spent 37 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:30,159 ninety five percent of January assigned to covering a very long RPG. Yeah, 38 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:35,840 and so I've I went from Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth straight into Persona three 39 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,479 reload and these are very long games. Sixty hours in Infinite Wealth review on 40 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:45,039 hit video game website GameSpot dot com and another seventy hours on P three reload 41 00:03:45,159 --> 00:03:49,680 on hit video game website i GM dot com. So man, been very 42 00:03:49,719 --> 00:03:53,400 impressive. Good thing there's no big j RPGs coming out in February. Oh 43 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,360 who's to say? Who's to say? Oh? God? Yeah, I 44 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,919 kind of felt that hardcore after when we got P three codes come in, 45 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,039 and I was like, where do I start juggling and stop playing like a 46 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,080 Dragon where I'm having a lot of fun to actually check out this other game 47 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,639 for the podcast on the website. But Mike, before we get to Persona 48 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,439 three, you wanted to talk about Penny's Big Breakaway. Yeah. I actually 49 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:26,560 got sent kind of a preview code for this. So this is the game 50 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:31,759 by the studio that did Sonic Mania, that really really good retro style two 51 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,959 D Sonic game. This is not with Sega, has nothing to do with 52 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,759 Sonic, but this is a three D platform that they're making now, and 53 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,720 it's still very Sonic adjacent in a lot of ways, Like there's a bit 54 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:47,839 of Sonic Adventure here in terms of how this feels. But I think because 55 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,439 it's not necessarily Sonic, they don't have the problem that a lot of the 56 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:56,000 three D Sonic games fall into, where they feel this desperate need to make 57 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,399 it all fast, fast, fast, because like you know, Sonic fast, 58 00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:01,399 Sonic fast and being really fast and a three D platform is just very 59 00:05:01,399 --> 00:05:06,120 difficult to control sometimes, so they have to, you know, they're redesigning 60 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,480 how those games work all the time to try to find something that works, 61 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,720 and they get close. I think Frontiers feels pretty good. The Boost games 62 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,800 can sometimes feel all right, but here it is it feels much more like 63 00:05:17,959 --> 00:05:23,279 a traditional three D platformer, right, especially one of those kind of I 64 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,680 don't know if isommetrics away put it, but you know that kind of three 65 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,959 D platformer where there's like the pooled back camera something like maybe more like an 66 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:34,160 Ash Show rescue mission or chase cam, like the chase Cam kind of thing, 67 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:39,240 or even Kirby in the Forgotten Land or sack Boy like one of those. 68 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:43,959 But you do have a pretty fun moveset here. Your whole gimmick is 69 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,120 you have this yo yo and you can use it to attack, but you 70 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,839 can also use it to kind of do this swing jump wherever you are. 71 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,279 You can grab a ledge with it. You can also spin it up and 72 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:58,120 then roll on it like Sonic spin dash, So you have that whole thing 73 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,319 going right, absolutely, But the whole game just also has this really nice 74 00:06:01,399 --> 00:06:05,079 kind of why two K aesthetic if you remember, just sort of the way 75 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,519 games looked and felt at that time, with the sort of cheery visuals and 76 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,839 music. So it's absolutely nailing that. I am very impressed. I think 77 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:19,959 it's super cool to see these smaller teams being able to make really cool three 78 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,720 D platformers. Now. It's kind of like back in the day when we 79 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,040 weren't getting two indy two D games, and all of a sudden we had 80 00:06:26,079 --> 00:06:30,439 these indies and smaller teams stepping up to bring back those games. I think 81 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,600 that's it's happening a little bit already we had stuff I had in time and 82 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:40,160 whatnot. But excuse me, this is really promising. I was very impressed. 83 00:06:42,399 --> 00:06:44,839 Mike. I don't know why I feel like you may be the expert 84 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,879 in this, but I've always been curious to go back and check out Billy 85 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:54,560 Hatcher. Oh, I know why you think I'm the expert. Yeah, 86 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,319 I don't know. I don't know why I feel I think three D platformers 87 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,399 have a certain esthetic platform with tubes on it. Team. Oh yeah, 88 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,399 just fine, it's fine. Yeah, you go, you go try It's 89 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:08,399 like, you know, it's a little bit of Glover. There's a little 90 00:07:08,399 --> 00:07:14,120 gloverness to it. Remember Glover. Oh unfortunately, yeah, wow, thentunate 91 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,839 helper. Yes, exactly. I at least say unfortunately because uh, the 92 00:07:20,879 --> 00:07:27,240 only my only exposure to Glover was at a Nintendo sixty four demo stall at 93 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,839 my local Toys r US and any and every time I timed out to go 94 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,240 to Toys r US. One of the employees was always hogging the machine playing 95 00:07:35,279 --> 00:07:39,959 Glover. Well, you gotta love the glove. Jan Jr. Tortoise, 96 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,120 that's the best. When Glover was sponsoring Monday Night Raw, so Jr. 97 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,879 Would have to say, God, I love the glove, Yola. There 98 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,399 is actually a game that I I did play that is not Infinite Wealth or 99 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:57,519 Persona. I just remember. It is called It's from the same people who 100 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,240 made A Space for the Unbound. Oh, it is a It is a 101 00:08:01,279 --> 00:08:07,759 short time loop game called Test Test Test. It's free, and it is 102 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:13,439 wild because it's it's kind of like a psychological horror that is a commentary on 103 00:08:13,439 --> 00:08:20,680 on like work culture and working in corporate life and how your bosses treat you 104 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:24,439 in the workplace. So I highly recommend checking that out. It's not the 105 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,519 most elegant puzzle style adventure game, but I think once you start to kind 106 00:08:28,519 --> 00:08:33,639 of dig it's it's also has arg elements to So I blasted through that in 107 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,799 about an hour hour and a half. It's free. I think it's worth 108 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,759 it, and I love seeing more creative games come out of Southeast Asia, 109 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,639 such as this Man. You know, yeah, y'all gotta check that out. 110 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:48,360 Doesn't cost anything, So support the hommies, you know, you know, 111 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:52,639 yeah, I like the space for the unvent a lot because of your 112 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,799 WRAQ Michael so mat test test tests, Sean, have you been playing anything 113 00:08:56,919 --> 00:09:01,039 else that you can talk about or talk about well? Me being me Jay, 114 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:01,840 of course, I've been playing a lot of Tech and seven, you 115 00:09:01,879 --> 00:09:05,720 know, yeah, seven, seven, eight. So I got used that 116 00:09:05,799 --> 00:09:09,600 it's like when the year flips over. I'm still saying twenty twenty three, 117 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,399 you know it is. But like Sean, I always had an little inkling 118 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:16,559 that you were little. You had a skech of like a hipsternist to you. 119 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:20,039 So I wouldn't put it past you to play Tech and seven when hotness 120 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,879 knocked us, ain't in eight, so I kind of you know, I 121 00:09:22,879 --> 00:09:26,440 gotta go back every once in a while. But no, Yeah, I've 122 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,600 been playing a lot of Tech and A. Been playing with my friends. 123 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,159 Me and Mike go a few rounds or whatever. We're like doing a show 124 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,360 together or whatever afterwards, and that game is just a freaking blast man. 125 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,080 We played a little bit for upf DR Day and then been talking about here 126 00:09:39,159 --> 00:09:43,279 or there. The one thing that I wanted to give more time with was 127 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,679 the online before really talking about because everyone knows. But at this point, 128 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:52,399 the story is incredible. Arcade Quest that's just a fantastic tutorial mode, and 129 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,919 you got all these character stories and other little bits of single player content. 130 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,000 When it comes to the multiplayer, I really had to put it through itspaces 131 00:09:58,039 --> 00:10:01,720 because you know, I that train for tournaments and or anything like that. 132 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:03,000 I got Big One a few months that I need to get ready for, 133 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:09,480 so I need online to be good big Yeah. You gotta get that full, 134 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:15,679 full fledged experience. And uh, it's better than I was anticipating. 135 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,600 Okay, but it ain't perfect. And we live in a world where like 136 00:10:18,639 --> 00:10:24,200 three Fighters six is basically perfect online. And so going into tecond eight when 137 00:10:24,279 --> 00:10:28,039 you have a really good connection with your opponent and you can see if it's 138 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,799 wired or Wi Fi because you know a lot of consoles are probably gonna be 139 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,320 on Wi Fi. Oh I like that. You can see that. You 140 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,679 can see that, yeah, because it'll be a Wi Fi indicare if it's 141 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,120 Wi Fi or wise, it'll be like the cell phone bars if it's wired. 142 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,639 And uh, if you go into Wi Fi match Man, that is 143 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:46,120 a coin flip. You never know, like it could be okay, like 144 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:50,320 maybe a little jittery but fine, or it could just be freezing every couple. 145 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,799 I've seen some nasty workout there with the Wi Fi players, you know 146 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,759 what I'm saying. And there's there's that, and then if just someone's connection 147 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,879 sort of shift the bed for a little bit. Like I was playing with 148 00:11:00,919 --> 00:11:03,360 my buds the other night and the game just frozers and were like, what 149 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:07,919 happened? It's well, wife turned on Netflix upstairs from my buddy and I'm 150 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:13,039 like, ah, I'll do it to this game because they Yeah. So 151 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,639 apparently from what we've been know s us out, it has roll back and 152 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:22,279 not going it to a degree where it's like it's kicking in, but not 153 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,559 in the way that we wanted to to cover up those network hiccups that can 154 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,840 happen unexpectedly, and that's what you want. People have heard roll back neck 155 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:31,759 with flaying game fans. We just throw it out there all the time. 156 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:37,799 That's why we want because Wentz properly implement it covers up the really bad connections. 157 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,840 So that's like the one blemish on tech and eight. I would say 158 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,200 it's also getting into a lobby and playing with friends is still a little funky. 159 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,519 I'm willing to overlook that a little bit because you know, it's still 160 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,440 launch window. They're figuring some of that stuff out. We'll see what happens. 161 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,759 Like the bug that we had there our day jan where you can only 162 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:00,279 spectate one match and then the spectators get that's still there. So yeah, 163 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,080 I was playing with my friends. We had to like all have Discord streams 164 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,399 pulled up, and I was kind of annoying. But for the most part, 165 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,240 like I think these are things that can be fixed, and the infrastructures 166 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:13,879 there is just a little janky. So I think the online for this game, 167 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:16,720 it could be better, but it's it's the best that a band I 168 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:20,840 Napco fighting game has ever been at the very least, so we're getting somewhere 169 00:12:20,879 --> 00:12:24,440 with it. Well, Sean, I actually want to talk to you more 170 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,360 about Tech and eight. What is uh, what is the FGC scene feeling 171 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:31,559 with tech and eight, Because what's the general beat on the street? They 172 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,960 dig it, Okay, everyone's happy, very happy, always in the street. 173 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,519 That's crazy. Hey, they're they're already street fighting in the streets. 174 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:48,759 Might as well do everything else, Okay, But I remember specifically the the 175 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,320 one EVO that I attended in person. The most hyped I got was watching 176 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,759 the Tech and Blocks specifically, so like, I'm especially excited, like Tech 177 00:12:56,799 --> 00:13:00,279 and eight has to be at EVO this year, right, oh yeah, 178 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,919 yeah, well yeah, I want to go. I've never been to EVO, 179 00:13:01,919 --> 00:13:09,159 and like I want to. I can drug you guys. I've said 180 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,200 many times on the BombCast. I have had the evil reports over the years. 181 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:18,080 Man, EVO is more fun than any convention in across the industry because 182 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,720 there's so much to do with. There's so much to get excited about. 183 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:26,799 It's true. And Tech and seven like last year was yeah dog, like 184 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:30,000 that game is old and it was still again it was good. It was 185 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,600 a little it ended pretty defensive, so we didn't have as many hype moments. 186 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:37,000 But I think back to like Combo Breaker twenty nineteen. I think it 187 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,159 was Tech and seven still a little fresh. Things were still a little spicy 188 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,840 back then, and there were moments that like the crowd was chanting. We 189 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:50,120 had like USA versus I think it was Korea a couple of times where you 190 00:13:50,159 --> 00:13:52,519 know, you have those rivalries that happened because teaching such a worldwide game. 191 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:56,879 There were moments that I will never forget, like you feel an energy in 192 00:13:56,919 --> 00:14:01,759 the room when like you, USA is about to get eliminated. We have 193 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,639 one rep left in the bracket, and everyone literally stands up and does the 194 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,279 spirit bomb. We all have our arms in the air, where like you 195 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:13,559 and and holler and and just dude wins, this room pops off. Like 196 00:14:13,639 --> 00:14:16,240 ten thousand people jump up and down, screaming on top of their lungs. 197 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:22,320 It's the coolest fucking thing. Tecan is the most international. I think it's 198 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,159 like the most diverse in terms of like countries that are represented in the brackets, 199 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:31,320 because definitely like ar like King of Fighters tends to be pretty diverse too, 200 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,200 but arslin Ash is like representing Pakistan and all has like a bunch of 201 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,399 homies winning too, and like like we don't really we don't really fuck with 202 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:43,720 Filipino champ, but he was one of the best to do it for a 203 00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:46,679 while and like and like, yeah, a bunch of Kareem players, Japanese 204 00:14:46,679 --> 00:14:50,399 players, US of course, it's all across the board. Man Tecan is. 205 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:56,159 Tecan is probably the most exciting fighting game to go to an event for. 206 00:14:56,919 --> 00:14:58,799 Yeah, and the thing is like the wild thing, you know, 207 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,559 we if you attend attend a convention, whether I don't know if you have 208 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,120 the ability to go to an E three in the past or even a packs. 209 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:11,279 There's kind of like a shutdown time, right if you're not interested in 210 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:16,360 playing like the board games or whatever. But like EVO goes for a long 211 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,639 time during the day, and just like even if you're just like watching a 212 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:24,759 game and not even like the big big games, but like you, when 213 00:15:24,799 --> 00:15:28,440 I went with Ben Pack, I passed by two hotel rooms even on the 214 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,480 way back to my room cash games, going, oh yeah, money matches 215 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:37,120 out the ass, dude, Absolutely, it is insane. No snitch, 216 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:43,559 I'm not. I didn't see it. Come on, yeah, and then 217 00:15:45,159 --> 00:15:48,440 the god, I just looked at the dates for EVO twenty twenty four, 218 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:54,559 and I will be on vacation during that time when Vegas. It's funny because 219 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,600 I will have to go to Vegas after Evo's done, like the day after 220 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:02,440 EVO, and it's you're already gonna be there. What are you talking about, 221 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:06,440 Well, I'm going to go to Japan this summer. Oh then coming 222 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:11,360 back to Disney c that's way more important. Yes, yes, uh, 223 00:16:11,399 --> 00:16:15,039 Mike, Mike, my as you know, my partner is also a Disney 224 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,399 fan. And then she looks at me and be the adult you know that 225 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,000 she's a Disney adult. You now, I've been to the I've bet your 226 00:16:23,039 --> 00:16:26,480 I've been to your apartment. I had dinner with y'all. I didn't get 227 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,159 the vibe that she was a Disney I've gone if you had known. Yeah, 228 00:16:30,279 --> 00:16:33,679 I don't know about this man. Uh. There were at least like 229 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:38,720 three popcorn buckets on our bookshelf. There was any wizard hat there as well. 230 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,320 Michael's putting the pieces together. Is that why she warned me about now 231 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,720 I can't see it, and I can't I can't see it when it come 232 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:49,759 over now. But Mike, you'd get a big kick out of this. 233 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,919 She looks me in the eyes and goes like, I hope you know, 234 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:56,120 since I'm front of the bill for the tickets until you pay me back. 235 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:03,120 Uh, we're going to Disneyland and Disney see for two days. Absolutely the 236 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:07,119 first time I went to not even Paris, France, but the first chance 237 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,759 I got to go to France. I took a train for like four hours 238 00:17:08,799 --> 00:17:12,079 to go to Paris to see Paris, but mostly to go to Disneyland. 239 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:18,480 Paris. So I get it in terms like like, what is the size 240 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,839 of Disneyland Paris in comparison to like the USA parks? Yeah, it's it's 241 00:17:23,279 --> 00:17:26,920 I mean, it's similar to Disneyland in California that it's two parks. The 242 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:33,160 ones pretty small, though the kind of downtown Disney area is probably at the 243 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,960 same size. But then there's like a giant hotel plaza right by that that 244 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,680 dwarfs the hotel complex that you would get in Disneyland. So yeah, definitely 245 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:47,319 compares more to Disneyland than to disney World, which is absolutely huge. Okay, 246 00:17:47,599 --> 00:17:51,920 Okay, I'll get everyone little treats and trinkets and figure out how to 247 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,960 send send it out. I'll so many pictures, you know what. I'll 248 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,000 make like a little little Disney Sea vlog just for you, Mike mine. 249 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,640 I would love that, love that more than anything, of course you would. 250 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,720 I'm just gonna whisper, like, Mike, look at this. Are 251 00:18:07,799 --> 00:18:10,759 they guys like this? I would? I'd be like, you're right, 252 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:15,640 I do like that. Yeah. I'll leave enough space in the audio track 253 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,400 for you to chime in as well. Appreciate that. Yeah, I can't 254 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,000 really see your reaction to that Sinbad ride with that song. You're gonna love 255 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:30,720 it. So Sindbad is like not like the comedian Sindbad but no, yeah, 256 00:18:30,839 --> 00:18:33,519 like that guy who went on adventures and stuff. Okay, like he's 257 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,039 only he's got an equivalent. It's like it's a small world in Disney Ce 258 00:18:37,079 --> 00:18:41,839 and it has a very very catchy song. Okay, Okay, I'm hearing 259 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,400 from the chat that it they've gone stricter and vlogging. Don't worry, I'll 260 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,440 find a way. I'll always find a way to point a camera or something. 261 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:53,079 Chance. I think it's time to talk about the big game at hand. 262 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:59,279 I'm gonna play the music just because let's go, Baby, Baby Baby, 263 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:06,480 the one Persona three reload. I'm gonna say this now. I'm gonna 264 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,000 say I'm gonna start a conversation about Persona three now, Okay, twenty hours 265 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:18,720 in Wow, I don't like damn it, jan and I want to and 266 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:25,519 I wanted to assemble three of the three big Persona heads, uh, three 267 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:30,799 three dear friends and say that I don't I'm not what's wrong. I don't 268 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:34,079 know if you can call me a dear friend. Oh you didn't even first 269 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,880 I find out and the next thing. I know, Jan Ship's on, 270 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,160 Jan You're what isn't my religion? Right here? We don't do this in 271 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:47,119 this house. Come on, man, what's wrong? I guess I guess 272 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,000 I'll start it off the front. I think Persona three Reload might be my 273 00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:56,440 favorite game of all time. Yeah, okay, so here's the thing. 274 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,519 Here's here's what I I. I need someone to talk me off if here, 275 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,279 because I'm twenty hours in and I think the game looks absolutely amazing. 276 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,920 It looks it looks gorgeous, and like my only I said this on the 277 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,200 BombCast earlier this week, My only introduction to the series originally is just seeing 278 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,480 screenshots of a PSP, so I have no frame of reference. The only 279 00:20:18,519 --> 00:20:26,839 things I knew about P three was that they use the Revolver the Revokero evokre 280 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,359 to some of their persona, and I always thought that was metal as hell. 281 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,680 And then I know the baby Baby, Baby Baby song that might was 282 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,240 saying earlier, or the remakes Babe Babe Bybee. If you're good, you 283 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:41,319 get back attacks. Yeah, if you gotta get back shots to get the 284 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:47,000 good song, we'll get the new song. Oh okay, Actually that explains 285 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:51,200 why it's different when I okay, cool, Yeah, a different one. 286 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:52,480 It's like Royal, where you get the new song, if you get if 287 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,119 you get backshots normal song. If you get the normal, you don't get 288 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:03,440 an ambush. And I've heard like middle middling things on June Pey of people 289 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,559 either really liking him or hating the he's your first friend, come on, 290 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,759 he's nice to you. I'm gonna say this is up front. June pay 291 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:17,599 is the best version of that archetype because he breaks out that archetype. Right, 292 00:21:17,759 --> 00:21:22,319 So we got June pey y and we're talking about I love I love 293 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:33,039 Regio. How you played PERSONA four because fucking sucks. The worst pathetic is 294 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:37,680 a pathetic loser. You know percona five guy, he gets kind of mean 295 00:21:37,319 --> 00:21:41,559 and stuff. I don't know, I don't like him. Plus also the 296 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,720 third time we did that trope at that point it was a little tires dog 297 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:53,480 rules homophobe. I didn't know. But yes, we're talking about all the 298 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:59,119 fix in the remake. They'll be fine, all right. Well, I 299 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,799 mean I have hope because the Brazona team nowadays a lot more open to a 300 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,319 lot more open to revisiting a lot of those elements, which and that's something 301 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:11,960 they addressed in this game, right because I remember, okay, because I 302 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,039 remember that being a controversy in like a worry when P three R was there 303 00:22:17,519 --> 00:22:19,680 was a beach scene that kind of I think it was mostly all which is 304 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,279 very different now. It's yeah, in the in the original one, it 305 00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:30,759 was a it was a transphobic dialogue scene with all the guys. They're they're 306 00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:33,440 out on the beach trying to holler at girls and ship. And then then 307 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,880 they have like this whole thing with a like a trans who's supposed to be 308 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,359 a trans character, say some transphobic ship. They revisited they rewrote that section, 309 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,079 but you can tell that they it's like here, let's go to let's 310 00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:48,640 put the like original scene, but like it's changed the dialogue so that scene 311 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,039 still happens, it just plays out completely differently. So yeah, there are 312 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:56,880 things like that. And in P three reload, like I did, I 313 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,200 almost forgot that in three P three fests and if you play the male route 314 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:06,119 in Portable two that when you max out the social link for any of your 315 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,759 classmates, your female classmates, you have to date them, like they become 316 00:23:08,839 --> 00:23:15,440 your girlfriend by default by maxing it out and I was like, holy shits, 317 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:18,440 Yeah one of them talks about how she was like cheated on or anything 318 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,599 like that, but I yah's to it, but that's not the case, 319 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:26,960 and reload you can actually be like, hey, we're like really good friends, 320 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,880 congrats, max ranked ten social links. So yeah, yeah, it's 321 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,039 like a lot. It's like a bare minimum type shit. Yeh fo getting 322 00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:37,799 added to it is just very good for it. Yeah, that's that's a 323 00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:41,480 big thing here, and it's actually a sticking point for me this game is 324 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,559 it's beautiful. For one, it's a fantastic visual overall. But for the 325 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:51,920 most part, it is pretty one to one the original Vanilla Persona three, 326 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,440 just with quality of life and gameplay changes from later games, specifically like the 327 00:23:56,599 --> 00:24:02,279 where Persona is at with five Royal. And I think that does mean that 328 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,440 some of the three isms that always bug me are really still bugging me, 329 00:24:06,519 --> 00:24:10,799 Like Tartaris is still boring, and I to be honest, if I didn't 330 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:12,480 have the steam deck back there to like grinding those out while watching a Twitch 331 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,279 stream or something, I would just be bored out of my mind during that 332 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,599 segments, Like yeah, they're faster than ever because of some of the quality 333 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:22,559 of life updates, but still wandering down hallways, it all look the same 334 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,119 for like, you know, twenty fours at time or whatever. So in 335 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,200 Persona three, like, the dungeon is a randomly generated thing and the gimmick 336 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,359 is every time you go in it gets changed again. Persona fours dungeons work 337 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,880 the same. It was really Percent of five was the first one where they 338 00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:41,799 made the dungeons kind of hand crafted and bespoke, and they have these set 339 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:45,160 pieces and they're like five. Yeah, and there's still like an area for 340 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,880 randomly generated stuff in person of five, but it's not nearly as important as 341 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,319 those main dungeons. I think that will be a sticking point maybe to people 342 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,160 coming to this from Percent of five. I'm I don't mind us so much. 343 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,759 I'm but I'm somebody who played Persona three million right back when it came 344 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:03,039 out, so I have some affinity for that original tartar risk. I do 345 00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:07,200 think there is something kind of fun about the just like the random maze element 346 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:12,160 of it and the exploration. It's very dungeon crawler like, right, and 347 00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:15,279 yeah, it kind of goes back to the s MT roots a bit there. 348 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:21,000 Yeah, yeah, so I think so. My biggest problem so far 349 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,640 is that it just feels like I'm following the same routine and I just have 350 00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:29,759 the same worries that I always have when I'm playing a Persona game of am 351 00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:34,480 I maximizing my day properly? Am I? Like? Am I going to 352 00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:40,359 pause the game to look up the quiz answer of the day? The answer 353 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,640 activity? Use the use the network function because like I always turn that off, 354 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,200 so maybe I'll turn out, yeah, okay, you get all the 355 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,680 answers straight up off that he actually, oh okay, all right, yeah, 356 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,200 but there's a bunch of our stuff that helps you with that too, 357 00:25:56,319 --> 00:26:00,279 because now not only do you have the mini map, so you can basely 358 00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:03,440 fast travels very easily. I did really enjoy that. It's a great change. 359 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,799 It's a game. You have text messages now, that's that's the other 360 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:10,480 big one. Yeah, because that was a big thing, especially in Persona 361 00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:11,920 five. You know, obviously I have a smartphone. They pull up and 362 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,240 your friends are in like a group chat with you, and they'll like let 363 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:17,680 you know, hey, I'm available today. And now you got that in 364 00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:21,799 three where the character buzsts out their flip phone and they got email, so 365 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,400 you know period appropriate and or I think because it does still take place in 366 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,839 two thousand and six, but that's a great way to keep track of Okay, 367 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,240 these people are available today. You're even on mailing lists for like the 368 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:36,559 restaurants, which pro tip you go do restaurants both eating and working in the 369 00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:40,480 early game because getting two stat points and sometimes getting some cat for working. 370 00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:48,559 Yeah, And I think my problem was like halfway through Persona five Royal, 371 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:52,079 I think I stopped just playing the game and I started playing it with like 372 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,240 a guide next to me, just so I maximize everything. That's a huge 373 00:26:56,279 --> 00:27:00,200 problem, yeah, because like I just want to make sure like I'm not 374 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,920 missing out on anything by like a certain day or what. I get that 375 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,119 anxiety. And you know what you want to do is maybe find a happy 376 00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:12,039 in between. And that's like to read the basic tips, and the kind 377 00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:17,200 of basic tip is in the daytime, do your social links. At nighttime, 378 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,440 do your stat boosts, and try to prioritize, prioritize some of those 379 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,240 things that give you better step boots, like go into the arcade. But 380 00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:26,240 I mean another part of it is a little point and it's hard to say, 381 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:30,200 hey, just don't be anxious about it, but you kind of have 382 00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:33,240 to let it go a little bit and just sort of do your best. 383 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,680 And hey, like, no matter what, you're going to beat the game 384 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,559 and get the ending, and you're going to max out the social links that 385 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:44,920 you probably want to. It's not like like in the Persona for Golden Right, 386 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,880 if you don't max out the social link with that new character, you're 387 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,519 not going to get that whole extra dungeon or something like that. That was 388 00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:53,960 fucked up. So that's where a lot of a lot of people in five 389 00:27:55,079 --> 00:28:00,240 Royal missed the Last Palace and that whole story arc, which is like twenty 390 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,880 hours worth of content and some of the best shit I've ever seen in an 391 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,960 rpges. A lot of people miss that because they didn't do the social link 392 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:11,000 with the counselor in time, and I'm like, that's a goddamn shame. 393 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:15,200 But there's none of that in p three. If this eases you a little 394 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,039 bit, have you played Persona three before? Jam? No, No, 395 00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:25,440 not at all. Okay, I'll say that I think Persona three has some 396 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,079 of the best social links in the entire series, but it also has some 397 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,200 of the worst. Yeah, because for everyone where you have where like I 398 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,559 really like that, Hey, hey, this neighborhood kid is dealing with her 399 00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:40,559 parents getting a divorce and everything. I really like that one because it's like, 400 00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:42,160 oh, that's something I want to have expected. But then you have 401 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,720 the dude who's like the king of eating or whatever, and that's all just 402 00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:52,079 about it's just about a large kid eating a lot. It's like, oh, 403 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:56,319 right, that one, So that's Arkhana and this one rules. That's 404 00:28:56,319 --> 00:29:00,039 such a good social link, right, Okay, go the guy is dying, 405 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:03,720 that's that's that's a sun Arcana. But like I just assumed it was 406 00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:08,640 because his whole thing, his name and the menu is dying young man. 407 00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:17,519 Like damn, it's a very touching story, I think. To that to 408 00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:21,720 that point is that as Sean Sean and Mike had mentioned, this is this 409 00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:25,119 is almost a lot of it is one to one from the original game. 410 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,880 So a lot of those a lot of those things that haven't aged well still 411 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,720 come through. And that that's because like, like the franchise has evolved so 412 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:36,599 much, especially in terms of how it incorporates a lot of those social elements 413 00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:38,680 into the game. So you're gonna see a lot of like Kenji the your 414 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,519 first classmate who wants to chill with you that will fucking sucks, and his 415 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,640 social like his ass and then you'll have Yeah. So there's a lot of 416 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,880 hits and misses. I think like one of the the rival track team guy 417 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:55,640 is like one of the best ones too, So it's you. There are 418 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,440 some that you can probably pick out and be like, I actually like that 419 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,920 full. I don't want to I want to spend time with them, and 420 00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:03,759 you don't really need to think about like, oh well, I don't upgrade 421 00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:07,599 this Arkana. So when I fuse personas, they're not gonna be as strong. 422 00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:11,519 It's like you'll find you'll figure it out. You'll you'll better persona. 423 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,440 Yeah, a few social lengths, you are going to get a good enough 424 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,839 persona stayble to beat the game. Yeah, and uh, to preface us 425 00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:22,839 a little bit, me and jan are around the same point, like around 426 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:25,720 twenty hours, Like I just got Fuka on my team, so like, 427 00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:29,000 you know, that's like a third ish the way through. So uh, 428 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Michael, correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't think it changes later. 429 00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:36,759 But uh, there are no social length perks correct, like outside of 430 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:40,640 you know, just the uh you get better fuses. There's nothing like in 431 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,519 Person of five you could get like when you rank up the the social lengths. 432 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:48,119 Sometimes they would have stuff that happens. That's that's how you would get 433 00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:51,799 like baton pass and things like that. Yea, even beyond that, Yeah, 434 00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:55,720 so certain things would change. So the so with the social link system 435 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,279 itself, no, but there are so One of the things that I thought 436 00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:03,160 was one of the best additions and changes for Reload is that they have separate 437 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:07,200 social scenes with and social events with these characters. So yeah, so after 438 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:11,119 you get Fuka into your party, that's when they introduce like gardening, watching 439 00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:15,000 TV, cooking with them, reading books. So those are ways to upgrade 440 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,720 your stat points. And at the same time, the more the more time 441 00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:22,400 you spend with the specific character, they get stat boosts and stat perks that 442 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,160 go into battle. And then so with the male party members too, is 443 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:32,519 that there were no male party members social links in three and three fests and 444 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:36,119 a male round portable. But what they did to make up for that was 445 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,799 they added separate distinct social events with them in particular, and I think it's 446 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:44,480 really important to check your phone because they'll text you like Akiko will be like, 447 00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:47,319 Hey, I'm chilling outside the station. Do you have a minute? 448 00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:48,839 Do you want to kick it? Let's get some food or something. And 449 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,799 those aren't just like hey, I'm gonna hang out with him and maybe get 450 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:56,759 a stat boost or get an academic point or whatever. Those actually lead to 451 00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:02,279 revelatory moments for those care there. And so those are scenes that are specifically 452 00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:06,440 written for reload. And one of the things I mentioned in my review is 453 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,960 that those new scenes have like have a have a heightened quality quality because they 454 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,759 were written. And so when you have the contrast for old social links that 455 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:19,240 are pretty much the same as they were in the original game, and then 456 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:23,079 in twenty twenty four you have these kind of thoughtful and touching moments with with 457 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,039 your bros, there is there's a noticeable contrast and quality you could tell what 458 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,519 was newly written. But those are also the ways in which you get new 459 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:38,079 perks for like their theogy attacks and they got stat boosts and it's it's like 460 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,799 super helpful stuff. So I highly recommend seeking that stuff out. That's a 461 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:45,119 big new thing too, that Theorgy, which I just got a little while 462 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,799 ago. Yeah, they have added limit breaks to Persona, which you know, 463 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,519 it makes all the sense in the world. Of course, give everyone 464 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:57,480 like a flashy super attack in Persona that just yeah, of course that clicks, 465 00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:01,319 and that's that's one of those layers that stuff that I think really starts 466 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,039 flashing this out. But I did want to address in the live chat here 467 00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:09,119 there was a little confusion. It looks like people might have known because of 468 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,920 how we're talking about this being very faithful to the original. You can control 469 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:19,240 your teammates, to be clear, like faith a person of three portable where 470 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:24,079 that was also implemented. Yeah, any like core gameplay stuff you would expect 471 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:29,000 out of Persona nowadays, is there? So yeah, controlling your teammates, 472 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,480 the baton passing which is now called shift and all that stuff in addition to 473 00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:36,720 the new stuff like the RTSY. But I mean go ahead, jam oh 474 00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:37,880 no, No, I just didn't know that that was a thing of the 475 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:44,279 original Persona three. That sounds curia, yeah, which I mean why Persona 476 00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:47,039 three rules and might always rule? Is the aesthetics, right? I mean, 477 00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:50,720 I can't tell you the smile I had on my face when I was 478 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,160 in the school and I was hearing that song for the first time. That's 479 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:57,920 done I was like, oh my gosh, I remember, just like it's 480 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,640 not tough than just like a song, especially kind of like a low five 481 00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:05,880 song kind of gives me goosebumps. But dude, gosh, this soundtrack is 482 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,280 an all time great one. And plus having like that kind of flashyar UI 483 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,920 elements, right, Persona five killed it with the UI and UX right, 484 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,079 you have more of that in here too. The game just looks so good 485 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:22,159 with things like battle transitions and some of these UI effects, even just in 486 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:27,760 dialogue right then the menus like that is so much about what makes Persona incredible 487 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,679 to me, it's just how incredibly good they are at aesthetics. Yeah, 488 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,360 and speaking of like to touch, since you touched on the music, I 489 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,480 think that's one of the that is part of the Persona experience, Like the 490 00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:43,639 music is part of that the series storytelling. In a way I've said this 491 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:49,679 before on After Dark this week, is that the singer. Each Persona game 492 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,000 has a specific singer for that soundtrack. It almost feels like that singer is 493 00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:57,800 a narrator for this story because when you listen to what these songs are about 494 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,960 and what they're saying, they're kind of telling this story of what's happening in 495 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:06,159 that game, and they have a new singer, Osumi Takahashi, who's taking 496 00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:08,760 over for Yui Kawa Mura, who has a very distinct voice, and a 497 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,480 lot of P three diehards such as myself, were like, ah, I'm 498 00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:16,039 open to the idea of having a new singer for this soundtrack, but after 499 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:17,920 like spending seventy hours of this game, like, oh no, no, 500 00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:22,840 she's part of the Persona family now, like for sure, And some some 501 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,199 of the re recording of the old songs might be take a little take some 502 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,559 getting used to, just because that's how we know Persona three to be. 503 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,159 But the brand new tracks they recorded for Reload are some of the some of 504 00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:38,920 the best Persona songs period. The nighttime theme with and lotus juices back, 505 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,920 who's the rapper who is on three and Q and Q two, Yeah, 506 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,440 he's back too, and that Foel's got some wild bars, that Fee's got 507 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,960 some wild bars. But his flow is like so distinct and his voice is 508 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,559 so distinct, and he even sings on some of these tracks too. I'm 509 00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:58,719 like, oh shit, he's got pipes. Yeah. So the soundtrack, 510 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,079 like the new songs, especially the color of Night, which is the nighttime 511 00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:07,199 theme when you're roaming around, is one of the sweetest tracks songs I've ever 512 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,639 heard in a Persona game. Like it. I tear up listening to that 513 00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:13,320 thing, because when you listen to what that song is about, and you 514 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,320 have when you have finished this game, and if you know what happens in 515 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,000 the story of this game, and you listen to a lot of these songs, 516 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,920 it gives me chills. Man. And so yeah, when it's like 517 00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:25,360 you need someone get your back, and you know I got your back in 518 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,400 the cry, imaginic crowd goes yeah, this is It's so sweet. It's 519 00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:37,480 very very sweet. Even the so the opening song for the intro movie, 520 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:45,280 like, I cannot watch that ope without breaking down completely. It is the 521 00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:50,119 It is the purest representation of Persona three. Like the entire story, the 522 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,880 entire history of Persona three is represented in that animation and in that song. 523 00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:00,199 It is. It is the best op I've seen ever in a Persona game. 524 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,360 It is one of the best songs ever in the series Dancing though, 525 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:12,039 Three Dancing, you know what I'm saying, Like I maintained Three Dancing is 526 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:19,000 the best soundtrack. So what what do you. What do you guys think 527 00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:22,280 about the new voice cast here? I thought it was very good. It's 528 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,559 interesting how some a lot of them, like you told me they were new 529 00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:30,519 voice actors, like maybe wouldn't even know. Some of them, like Goes, 530 00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,800 sounded like different but still really work for me. I think getting a 531 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,199 new voice or the chairman is really good because he always sounded weird as helped 532 00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:40,199 me in the Yeah, the majority of them are sound a likes, but 533 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,239 Akiko is the one that kind of stands out because if you used to that 534 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,119 like sort of raspier voice, like this does sound a little bit. It's 535 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:51,480 not like that one guy from the from like the do It Yourself the d 536 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:52,880 I I commercials or something. I think it was Home Deep. It's not 537 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,480 like the Home Deeper commercial guy. To me, I googled it the first 538 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,360 time I heard that commercial, like, I think that's Akey from PRISONA. 539 00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:07,199 But damn, I actually dedicated a whole paragraph in my review to talk about 540 00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:10,719 the voice cast because I think from front to back, the casting, the 541 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:19,119 recasting for this entire game is damn near perfect. There's a lot of you 542 00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:22,519 know, these voices were originally recorded in like two thousand and six when this 543 00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:27,360 game first came out, and so a lot has changed, Like a lot 544 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,280 of those voice actors are a lot more prominent now, especially like Liam O'Brien 545 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,239 who does make a cameo in reload. There's just a lot of those voice 546 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,039 actors are in different places now and some of them are just like you would 547 00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:40,440 not want to associate with. I'll say you that much, okay. And 548 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,360 so from front back they did a whole recasting, and I think calling them 549 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:51,039 sounded likes is doing a disservice to how they both embody the original vision of 550 00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:53,760 that character and then make it their own, And especially once you start to 551 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:59,920 what's the balls gets rolling on the more dramatic story moments in this game. 552 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,119 As you get later and later into it, the more they kind of really 553 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:07,440 step into these roles, especially with someone like Yukari, who has a lot 554 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,800 of baggage with her and she expresses that a lot at certain points in the 555 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,800 story. Her and Mitsuru have so much drama together and the way they go 556 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,679 back and forth is very believable. That's another thing too, is that the 557 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,519 voice cast expresses these characters in very realistic ways. So when Yukari is arguing 558 00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:29,239 with someone, it feels like that's coming from the heart, and someone like 559 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,599 Junepe who's like a goofy ass dude who says like dumb shit, like you 560 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,199 really believe, like, oh, he is a dumb ass, and then 561 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,880 when he gets serious, that dude has the biggest heart in the entire crew. 562 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,079 And that's across the board like something. I really like Igus's new voice 563 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:49,400 actor. The one thing I did kind of miss was having the more robotic 564 00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,519 aspect to her voice, because I guess is the robot, but I think 565 00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:55,719 like Don Bennett steps into the role to give it a little bit more emotion, 566 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,599 that still feels like I guess as I remember her. So yeah, 567 00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:06,159 I think it's I'm super impressed because that was one of the things I was 568 00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:07,960 worried about it, like, oh, I'm so attached to who these original 569 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,760 voices were. Let's see how they can do it. I think it's a 570 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,639 good idea to recast the entire thing, but let's see how they can hold 571 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,360 up. And one killed it, especially Fuka. Fuka is probably the most 572 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,000 improved character to me, Like she was cool back back back in the original 573 00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:28,079 games, but now it's like I adore Fuka, Like she's one of my 574 00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:31,880 favorite characters now because of Susan Young who kind of re just like it's a 575 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,920 complete like retake of that character. Uh, and she does an incredible job 576 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,559 of embodying who Fuka is. Yeah, that's awesome to hear. I saw. 577 00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:44,920 I'm not that far yet. I got my code later, so I'm, 578 00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:49,599 you know, earlier than than even Sean and jan Are haven't gotten Fuki 579 00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:53,159 yet. But Fuka was kind of a sticking point B and the original You're 580 00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:59,599 like, did they fix Fuka like that? Yeah, something about her, 581 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,639 I don't know. She's like a seventy year old woman and yeah, that's 582 00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:08,320 what I said. Yeah, but now she's original Fuka out then she sounds 583 00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:14,039 a lot like Haru from a persona five different voice actors, but it's very 584 00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:17,199 similar vibe as did have Fuka vibes, not like in a terrible way, 585 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,280 but she had some vibes. Yeah, so they sound similar. Yeah there. 586 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,639 I think the voice acting in general, like Michael said, like just 587 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,840 things are so different with voice acting now that the quality is going to be 588 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,400 higher because direction is better and everything like that, Like the performances are incredible 589 00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:36,239 to be clear, sound alike. When I said that, only in terms 590 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,440 of like they try to like think, Mike said that if you say it, 591 00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:44,679 Mike said, okay, never mind. It was a completely vallid thing 592 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,199 to say. No, definitely, only in the sense that like they want 593 00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:52,039 people who like sounded similar to the original voice actor so it won't be super 594 00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:53,360 jarring. Again. Akko is like the one where it's like, oh, 595 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,960 that's very different. That was the first one. I was like, okay, 596 00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:59,519 like if yeah, if going in you told me it was the same 597 00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:04,239 voice act and had been long enough since I played one. Thought a lot 598 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,159 of these were the same ones where I was like, oh, they recast 599 00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:08,159 some of them, and then yeah, you know, I looked it up 600 00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:10,039 afterwards. I'm like, oh, no, no, they they didn't. 601 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:15,800 Yeah, it's entirely recast and they do perform just absolutely in correctly. I 602 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,880 mean, it's it's very you can tell. You can start telling when like 603 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,280 you get to someone like June Pay where I thought Jumpey Jupey does always sounded 604 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,280 like a tool in the originally does always sounded like the goofy dude. But 605 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:30,199 now, yeah, Jumpey has ranged now and he actually like yeah, and 606 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,800 they there are small changes to the story and everything like that, both to 607 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,280 accommodate things like the orgy and all those new, smaller new concepts that they 608 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:42,719 did add in, but also did I actually did do some comparisons. That's 609 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,239 why I'm a little farther behind. I stopped and did some of this stuff. 610 00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:50,440 Like I looked at scenes from the original compared to reload, and there 611 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,519 there's a lot of just like the scene is exactly the same, the script 612 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:58,559 is exactly the same, but these new performances are just so much better that 613 00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:02,079 it just drives some of these moments home so much better. And it sells 614 00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:07,760 it because Persona is it's half visual novel, really, and you need if 615 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,119 you're gonna have it mostly fully voice acted, which a lot of this is 616 00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:15,159 like I think even more so in Persona five Royal maybe, which perhaps because 617 00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:19,679 a smaller game that makes sense, but it's just they did such a great 618 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,840 job. But I love it. I think the the part that I've gotten 619 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:28,679 hung up about in my my time with the game is, uh, everything 620 00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:30,760 else and in real life is very dour. Uh. And I think where 621 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,760 I'm currently at with with the game is I'm just waiting for like the those 622 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,079 little moments and those big payoffs. But to hear everyone talking so glowingly about 623 00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:45,320 it. I think it's also because it came out probably the worst time after 624 00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:50,199 Like a Dragon, because Like a Dragon is such a like a dumb himbo 625 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,239 game of like, let's fucking do it, guys, we got it, 626 00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:58,000 I love you, uh. And then like it's you know, the darker 627 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,599 This is the darker persona by far, like like, you know, for 628 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,360 deal four deals with like a murder mystery, so obviously not the lightest thing 629 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,599 in the world, and whimsical though it's it's yeah, it's got whimsy in 630 00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:13,800 the day for sure. And then five, you know, five addresses some 631 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,760 serious topics, you know, like like abuse from your superiors. It is 632 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,559 all a big theme of five and a lot of that stuff. But three 633 00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:22,599 is just I mean, all you need to see is that, you know, 634 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,719 the devoker is a device they put to their head that looks like they're 635 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:30,960 shueing themselves dart Yeah like hell, like Dan said, yeah, it goes 636 00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:34,280 places. Yeah, okay, all right. That's that's good to know because 637 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,599 every time I pause the game to save and just think about whether or not 638 00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:42,760 I want to keep playing I'm staring at that menu and it's like this whole 639 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:49,519 game is dripping in swag, you know, and like, Mike, you 640 00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:52,239 nailed it. It does bring me back to like that kind of like Y 641 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,760 two k ish two thousand and six era that after like one of my sessions 642 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,800 with the game, I wound up going on eBay kind of looking for cool 643 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:04,199 and P three players I'm never going to use. Yeah yeah, but like 644 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,239 it just yeah, okay, all right, like yeah, uh, what 645 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:14,039 if I told you that Persona three has always been my comfort game? Yeah 646 00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:16,119 no, no, no, it's I don't think that's odd. Yeah that 647 00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:20,280 checks out. Yeah yeah, when you're in the daytime segments like I get 648 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,079 that because it's chill, super chill. Yeah. I've replayed. I've replayed 649 00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:29,760 fest and Portable a total of four times the lively it was always like my 650 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,639 comfort game to go to. So playing reload though, talking about like the 651 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,119 darkness and like how you know you have to I guess you have to be 652 00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:43,239 in a certain mood to really accept P three on its own, to it 653 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,159 on its term media at it's on its on its terms, because it is 654 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:51,599 it does handle a lot of things that might hit very close to some people, 655 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:54,400 and I think for me, I dedicated a lot of this to my 656 00:45:54,440 --> 00:46:00,239 review. It's talking about how playing this because it's almost one to one the 657 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,880 same story, but it is a completely different experience for me. A lot 658 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,840 has changed in my life since the last time I played Persona three, so 659 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:14,480 I have a like a fresh perspective on the same exact story, and it 660 00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:19,559 hits completely It hit completely different now that we're like, I know what it's 661 00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:22,039 like to go through loss, I know what tragedy feels like. I know 662 00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:25,719 how to handle those things. I know how how much it breaks you down 663 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:31,880 because this whole game is there's constantly people dying around you, people losing loved 664 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:37,760 ones, having to grieve, having to move on so fast from the life 665 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,119 and P three. Back then, it was like I felt like this intense 666 00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:45,639 sadness when when something tragic happens in the story, I'm like, oh man, 667 00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:47,960 that's that's so sad. I feel terrible for that character. But now 668 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,880 when those things happen and I see that happen in this story, I'm like, 669 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,199 oh no, I get it now. I know that this character who 670 00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,280 is handling it this specific way, I know exactly how that feels it just 671 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:05,239 so powerful that back in two thousand and six they nailed it with how they 672 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,760 told this story and what they did with it, and it kind of in 673 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,519 a way, it really puts P four to shame. I hate it, 674 00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:14,519 say I got a fucking P four poster in the back here. I love 675 00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:19,960 that game too, But in retrospect, they hit something. They hit a 676 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,360 like bigger topics like life, death and how to make the most of the 677 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,239 time that you have left. How do you handle your life when you know 678 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,119 you're about to die? And I think that like the social link with Aki 679 00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:35,000 Nari, who's the guy chilling and who has a terminal illness, Like, 680 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,239 holy shit, dude, Like I have a different perspective on that with the 681 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,599 health issues that I've gone through, and now I understand what he's thinking. 682 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,679 Back then, I'm like, oh, this is so sad. Now I'm 683 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,920 like, oh shit, I can learn something from this guy. And then 684 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:51,119 so as you go through this whole story, it's it's dark, there's a 685 00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,559 lot of death around it, but I think once it starts to come around, 686 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,599 it's about how you make the most of your time and how to appreciate 687 00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,519 life. I think just Howard who did the review for a game spot. 688 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,639 I read a review and I think she quoted the Iliad and it's one of 689 00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:12,960 the most beautiful ways to summarize Persona three is that everything is more beautiful because 690 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,880 we are doomed. And I think that's one of the themes about the game, 691 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,119 is accepting the inevitability of death. So what are you going to do 692 00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:24,039 in the meantime? And that's what these all these characters in their own ways 693 00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:28,519 go through that whole process throughout the game. It is one of the most 694 00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:31,760 mature stories, not like oh, violence and darkness, but it has grown 695 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,239 up in that way that stands the test of time. I call it timeless 696 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,639 and powerful and all these other words in my review, but I really do 697 00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:43,079 feel that that way. And I think the problem is, though, you 698 00:48:43,199 --> 00:48:45,840 got to get through the gameplay to see all that stuff, so I tell 699 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,400 you, and like all jokes aside, I totally get the reservations that people 700 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:54,519 have from a gameplay perspective, and so yeah, yeah, And for folks 701 00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:58,280 confuse this to like my negative feelings on the game, it's purely from a 702 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:04,239 gameplay perspective of just navigating through Tartarus and having that anxiety when it comes to 703 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,480 managing social links, and now hearing from y'all that like, Okay, just 704 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,239 go with the ones that I'm vibing with more so than feeling like I have 705 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,119 to max out every single person just because I don't want to miss out on 706 00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:20,400 fusions and all that jazz. Okay, Like I'll circle back to it, 707 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,079 and yeah, I when when I booted up the game and then they have 708 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,039 like a line or something about, uh, what you do with your time? 709 00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:31,559 I kind of just like, oh man, I gotta go smoke a 710 00:49:31,639 --> 00:49:37,079 cigarette. Smoke. It's just like, okay, all right, it's one 711 00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:40,440 of the it's gonna be one of these games to use this game. Huh, 712 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,039 you haven't even gotten to like the good ass parts of the story jam 713 00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:47,639 Like, okay, it's it's not that far off. I think if I 714 00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:52,360 recall correctly, within the next ten hours, you will get to like all 715 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,480 of the big plot points that sort of crib the rest of the plot forward. 716 00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:59,039 So yeah, we'll like you mean being around the same area we are 717 00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:02,039 at. Like, basically it's silly to say about a persona game, but 718 00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:07,039 it's always the case. We've basically gotten through the tutorial here. Yeah, 719 00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:09,440 yeah, and like you know, that's that's also like ties back into like 720 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:15,199 a conversation We've had a lot with Backlar about like a Dragon infinite Wealth. 721 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:20,119 You know, you do have to invest a good chunk of time to get 722 00:50:20,159 --> 00:50:24,440 through the tutorialization of a game. Uh And unfortunately, fortunately that's the same 723 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:30,199 case with this. I don't think Persona three would necessarily grab grubs attention as 724 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:36,639 much as I mean, you and Mike would know best, as as much 725 00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:39,119 as Infinite Wealth has no no, it's not you know, it doesn't have 726 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:46,199 it doesn't have the death raating to loss so random guitar. So okay. 727 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:51,400 My question for for y'all here, like, is this a good jumping on 728 00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:54,039 point for someone that has been PERSONA curious or is this kind of like a 729 00:50:54,159 --> 00:51:00,880 victory lap for P three fans. It's not gonna be quite as maybe flashy 730 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,239 in some ways as five is. I think it's a pure PERSONA experience in 731 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,440 a lot of ways, also a smaller person experience, which maybe is going 732 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,239 to make it more prosperable. I mean, this is definitely what PERSONA is 733 00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:14,719 and just you know, and from that sake and from being the newest one 734 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,079 and in a lot of ways. Personly three, you know, Michael's been 735 00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:22,039 talking about us, it did do things better than four or five really ever 736 00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:24,039 did, even with all the improvements that would come from it in a mechanics 737 00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:28,199 kind of way. So yeah, I don't think there's any way you're going 738 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,159 to like play this one and not like it, but like, oh, 739 00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:34,599 a Persona four five would really win you over. This is Persona in a 740 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:42,599 very here, very sincere form. I disagree a little bit with the sentiment. 741 00:51:42,639 --> 00:51:45,239 I would say that, like if someone if the question is someone like 742 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,880 has never played a Persona game and they've been looking into the series, I 743 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,039 do think five Royal is still the best, jumping on points, despite the 744 00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:57,760 fact that it's such a much longer game, you know, like on average 745 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:04,000 probably like thirty or forty hours long. It's significantly bigger. There's a lot, 746 00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:06,840 there's a lot I'm trying to remember, like what what I clocked in 747 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,800 at at the end there, oh jeez. But I think because three is 748 00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:15,679 a significantly more linear game, there's less, you know, side content, 749 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,960 there's you can even feel a streamlining, and the fact that they didn't change 750 00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:24,360 how like the strip mall is laid out. It's still just like a wall 751 00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:28,320 of stores and you like walk up to one and go in. It's not 752 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,199 like Percona five where you're like wandering around downtown Tokyo and stuff like that. 753 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:37,519 I still think that that five Royal is still the best jumping on point for 754 00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:40,440 the series. But with P three Reload, I mean, you kind of 755 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,480 already know if you're gonna play it, because Persona fans, it doesn't matter 756 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,800 what we say here, You're gonna play it no matter what. Like game 757 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:52,079 Pass people are probably gonna check it out and download. They're into RPGs right 758 00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:57,119 now games, so like you can just go check it out, and I 759 00:52:57,119 --> 00:53:01,440 don't know, it's it's a stiffer person I would say, just on the 760 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:07,039 whole because of things like Tartaris. It's interesting to go back to this in 761 00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:10,000 this form. I was I've been hoping for a long long time that we 762 00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:15,119 would get a Persona three remake, and like when the four Golden Port and 763 00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:19,159 the three Portable Port were announced, I was like, oh, that's not 764 00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:22,840 what I want. But we also got the announcement three reload around the same 765 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,159 time, or I think it was around the same time, I don't remember. 766 00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:29,239 But after yeah, it was something I look forward to. I was 767 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:35,039 hoping though that we talk about different remakes and remasters, reimaginings. In the 768 00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:40,719 case of like seven remake, this is a redo. Basically, this is 769 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,960 like I like the team looked at the design docs the original ones, which 770 00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:50,000 maybe they even did, but hypothetically it feels like they look at the design 771 00:53:50,039 --> 00:53:53,519 docks for the original game and we're told we're making this game in modern day, 772 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,760 that we're getting everything we know about making grpgs we're going to put into 773 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,440 this one. But as a result, it really feels like while I was 774 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:06,280 hoping for some the type of upgrade similar to say Residi Evil two to to 775 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,880 remake, where it is that reimagining. It is the spirit of the old 776 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,639 game, the story of the old game, but the gameplay is significantly changed 777 00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:16,079 to be more modern. This is more like an RI four to four remake, 778 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:22,599 where it's not a radically different game, it is just visuals are way 779 00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,639 prettier than they've ever been, the gameplay is refined, and there are there 780 00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:29,840 is that bous content, but it's like there is that a little bit of 781 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,639 This is kind of the game that I had in my head from back in 782 00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:36,199 the day. That's because it is so similar to the original while just like 783 00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:39,440 rounding off those rough edges. Yeah, I think I think, I think, 784 00:54:39,519 --> 00:54:44,639 yeah, that's pretty much on point, like when trying to encapsulate, 785 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,679 like, oh what how much of a remake is this actually and putting you 786 00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:52,280 say, look like you said as a redo, but also very much that 787 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,159 original design dog exists, but now with the current generation of visuals, like 788 00:54:55,199 --> 00:55:00,639 that's a pretty good way to put it. And then so I think it 789 00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:02,679 depends on just how much stock someone puts into those kinds of things. And 790 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,320 I do agree that. I think P five Royal is the one I would 791 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,239 always recommend as someone's first persona because I think it's best. Yeah, it's 792 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,440 front to back, like gameplay wise, the social stuff, the story is 793 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:20,039 trying to tell visually, music, everything like that is a that is as 794 00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:23,880 close to that game is just it's a masterpiece for sure. I Vida gave 795 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,000 it a ten on game Spot for a goddamn reason, right, Yeah, 796 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,760 and it is always the one I'm going to recommend, And it's still like 797 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,920 a very powerful story that comes along with that. But yeah, it's and 798 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,480 so like if you have that, if you have room in your heart for 799 00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:42,760 a persona P three reload is probably gonna click with you. If this is 800 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,239 your first time you have you don't know what to get into. It's probably 801 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,960 fifty to fifty shot. But it's also hard to just put myself in other 802 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:52,400 people's shoes because I don't know what their expectations are. Sure, I mean 803 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,519 I would if you're interested. I would one thousand percent say yeah, give 804 00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:58,039 it a try if you're interested, especially if if you have game Pass. 805 00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:04,880 But I do tell some people that to some degree, like give it a 806 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:09,599 chance, and also understand that there are aspects that are still pretty dated because 807 00:56:09,639 --> 00:56:15,760 of how faithful it is to that original design. So okay, some of 808 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,000 that stuff does come through and I'm playing, I'm like, oh fuck, 809 00:56:17,079 --> 00:56:22,039 like you know this is There are a lot of aspects of this game that 810 00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:25,320 I think make it the kind of remake that I was hoping for. But 811 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,800 at the same time, I understand that comes with some coffee oats, Like, 812 00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:30,719 yes, in some ways, it still feels like the PS two game. 813 00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:35,280 Anythink, as you get later on in the story, when you start 814 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,119 to kind of check things off of your list and you're almost like done with 815 00:56:37,199 --> 00:56:42,920 social link routes, you're done upping your stats. The original design starts to 816 00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:46,239 starts to see you start to see through the design of the game and like, 817 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,440 ah, damn, well, I guess I'm just gonna burn time so 818 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,719 I can get to the next story event that does happen. And I think 819 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:58,000 that's just a product of sticking to the original a little too much. But 820 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,599 at the same time, like this is yeah, P three is P three 821 00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:07,320 is so much more to me than that that in a way I can not 822 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,760 excuse them. It's still part of the critique, but they don't bother me 823 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,960 as much as they may have may bother other people going into this. So 824 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,960 okay, yeah, it's it's still the best way to play Persona three, 825 00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:22,199 even if it is missing the answer from three fats, which hey, that 826 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,039 was bad, so we don't really miss that. But even if it's missing 827 00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:29,320 the female protagonist route and everything that came along with then all the new scenes, 828 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,320 this is still the way that you would want to hop into this game 829 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,559 if you are interested, whether you're a PERSONA fan or you are you know, 830 00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:39,800 so are just checking things out. Yeah, and I appreciate the route 831 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:45,199 they took for this remake. There's just something about playing Persona three again and 832 00:57:45,239 --> 00:57:49,280 having it feel like that game. Because Persona three, I remember the excitement 833 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,559 just around that releasing, how kind of caught off guard everybody was, right, 834 00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:55,559 like the third entry in the series that even a lot of you know, 835 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,800 JRPG fans didn't know much about, and all of a sudden it was 836 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,960 the kind of the hot topic, this late Yes two game that suddenly had 837 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,559 all this sort of style and this different vibe for a JERPG than we were 838 00:58:07,639 --> 00:58:10,800 really used to ever seeing. And it, you know, it took off 839 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,000 from there and then slowly grew and to this point now where Persona is an 840 00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:20,760 absolute juggernaut in the JRPG space. Just really cool revisiting where that all really 841 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,920 started here, you know. Okay, all right, all this all this 842 00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:29,320 talk about P three, I'll stick with it, y'all. Start out with 843 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,360 a hot take. I got one over I dude, Jane. You know, 844 00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:37,280 like I play big comfy chair back there for like the big story stuff 845 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,559 and everything like that. And then when Tartars comes up, Hey, steam 846 00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:44,840 deck could before bed just try to way to fantastic game on the steam deck 847 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,239 right, like so good. I've been playing on my ally and it's been 848 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,239 very nice. It's always a problem, but yes, very well. Listen, 849 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,159 this is a very specific thing, but we'll say and I recommend this 850 00:58:55,199 --> 00:58:59,840 for Persona games in general. If you can play this on an OLED screen, 851 00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:02,840 goddamn you need to do so, because I got an old TV and 852 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:07,320 an O LED switch and a not O LAD monitor and let me tell you 853 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,400 it looks away hors on this. It does on either of those, so 854 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,239 if your's really popped. They do a lot of interesting things with like colors 855 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:20,159 and uh that comes through a lot of the personality. So yeah, I 856 00:59:20,199 --> 00:59:22,480 would second that as well. We want to answer a few specific questions. 857 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:27,360 We got the game thing here totally. Yeah, I can throw these out 858 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,360 and I bet like more you guys can answer. But Kane hi one was 859 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,280 wondering if Michael can answer quick question. Is it as strict as the original 860 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,800 Persona three with regards to maxing out all s links or did they loosen it 861 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:43,199 up a bit? I think I can't. I can't scientifically answer this, 862 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,920 but it feels like I had a lot easier of a time one ranking up 863 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,960 my social stats because they give you so many more options to do it as 864 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:57,960 well. But also two, I just felt like I've less frequently ran into 865 00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:00,800 that instance where you go up to sell when you want to hang out with 866 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,039 them, and then it'll say in the textbox like, hey, you're not 867 01:00:02,039 --> 01:00:06,119 gonna be able to advance your rank with them, but you could still hang 868 01:00:06,159 --> 01:00:08,880 out and eventually you will rank up with them. I feel like I encountered 869 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:14,480 that fewer times, so in a way, like I didn't try to min 870 01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:15,800 max this when I when I reviewed the game, I just went with my 871 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,519 heart. I feel like I got more done. That could also be a 872 01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:24,039 product of me playing this game four fucking times and just like knowing how to 873 01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:28,119 go through it. But it feels like I think I maxed out my social 874 01:00:28,119 --> 01:00:31,760 stats way earlier than I ever did in any of the other versions, Like 875 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,960 you need to get like max ranked with all three stats to start your social 876 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:42,559 link with Fuka, Yukari and Mitsuru, And I remember playing the older versions 877 01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:45,840 and when Mitsuru's social link opens up, I was like, shit, I'm 878 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,519 still at rank five for academics. I need to be a genius to hang 879 01:00:49,519 --> 01:00:52,719 out with her. And then I was like rushing to up that so I 880 01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:55,639 can start that social link. But I maxed out Academics and like October and 881 01:00:55,639 --> 01:00:58,880 her shit doesn't start till the end of November. So I was like, 882 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,119 oh, I'm already ready to hang out with Mitsuru. She wasn't ready for 883 01:01:01,159 --> 01:01:07,960 me. So oh, how the tables have turned. So I do feel 884 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,119 like I think it's easier, but I cannot scientifically say yes, But with 885 01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:14,840 my heart I will say yes. All right? How about our rules? 886 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,719 Here wants to know if I'm a gamer on a budget, how viable is 887 01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:22,840 it to pick up the original Persona three probably meaning portable here instead, there's 888 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:27,239 no reason to This is the best version. It's on game Pass as the 889 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,559 cheapest way of playing peron. I will say, they don't maybe they don't 890 01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:32,000 have game Pass. I mean, do you guys think that you wouldn't even 891 01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:37,440 consider telling somebody to just play Persona three portable anymore? It would just be 892 01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:39,559 like I would maybe just wait for a sale on this or wait a few 893 01:01:39,639 --> 01:01:43,559 years on this one. I don't know why you would go back to portable 894 01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:46,280 anymore. I think there's no reason too. The only thing I will say 895 01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:52,239 is that you I still think there's a lot of value inportable because of the 896 01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:57,320 female route. Because I've said this many times in various capacities, But the 897 01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:05,400 female protagonist for Persona three Portable is probably besides Maya from Persona two. I 898 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,920 think she's the best Persona protagonist period because they actually give her a personality, 899 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:15,360 and they rewrite a lot almost all the social links for the female protagonists, 900 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:20,800 so you have very different conversations with the female characters throughout the entire game, 901 01:02:21,039 --> 01:02:23,480 and I think it's a lot more thoughtful in that way too. And also 902 01:02:23,679 --> 01:02:28,719 just like the dialogue options you get, and her design is great, and 903 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,880 the new music that comes along with the Female Route Importable is all fantastic, 904 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,320 So it's a very different perspective on the same story. But it's hard to 905 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:42,159 recommend still when something like Reload comes out, Like if you play Reload and 906 01:02:42,159 --> 01:02:44,760 you're like, holy shit, I love p three with all my heart, 907 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,239 I want more of it, but it's done, then I would say, 908 01:02:47,239 --> 01:02:51,320 hey, go play the female Route in Portable because there's some new, cool 909 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,599 shit that still is some of the best that the series has ever done, 910 01:02:53,599 --> 01:03:00,239 and I think it's some of the best writing for a female character in the 911 01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:04,400 Persona series, which has historically not been so great, and they kind of 912 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,199 hit a lot of great topics with some like with some sharpness in the female 913 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:15,360 route for Portable, but yeah, that's our That's ot of what's to lament 914 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,320 here about Reload is that, hey, it would have been really damn cool 915 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,239 if that was in this game and this was just the definitive version that we've 916 01:03:22,239 --> 01:03:24,800 always wanted. But instead, Yeah, going back to that, any of 917 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:30,159 the content that's not in here that's importable, that's almost like supplemental reading at 918 01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:34,280 this point, I think where like they're so much Arilos, so much has 919 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,760 done quality of life wise, it is just so much better to play than 920 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,280 the older versions of whether you're talking about the original, Fez, Portable, 921 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,559 any of them. Like this is the way to go, and it's it's 922 01:03:44,599 --> 01:03:49,840 accessible, and you know, I get if you're doing other ways to place 923 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,880 or in older games, I get, Okay, yeah that technically is cheaper. 924 01:03:52,039 --> 01:03:58,880 But on the whole likes, I'm just saying, Jeff grubs down this 925 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,320 podcast, so I got I got the one to bring it up. You 926 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:08,119 know, yeah, game pass fire up some stream and like it's it's pretty 927 01:04:08,119 --> 01:04:11,920 accessible now. Yes, One thing is really is really funny when you mentioned 928 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,400 Tartars, like going back to the old Tartars is kind of miserable, like 929 01:04:15,639 --> 01:04:19,920 yeah, they're later, Like yeah, they're just like mazes and mazes. 930 01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:24,360 Each floor is a fucking maze, And like I noticed and reload, the 931 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,119 higher you ascend in Tartaris, the shorter the floors get. It's almost like 932 01:04:28,119 --> 01:04:31,119 the game real like it feels like that way. There's a lot of instances 933 01:04:31,159 --> 01:04:33,199 where it's like, oh, hey, those are the stairs, it's just 934 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:38,000 down the hall. Yeah. I did notice that I at least felt like 935 01:04:38,039 --> 01:04:41,719 I was progressing through it a little faster because now I'm in what the forties 936 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,800 or whatever, I'm like, I'm just starting to Yeah, I'm starting to 937 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,480 cruise here. So okay, it feels like it gets a lot short, 938 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,320 and I think it really does get a lot shorter, whereas the opposite happens 939 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:55,239 with the old versions, where the higher you send, the more fucking complex 940 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,920 those a mazes get. And I'm just like, I don't know if I 941 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,360 could recommend that in good conscious unless you want to play on it easy. 942 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,000 But yeah, like we got any more questions. One more here from rad 943 01:05:04,119 --> 01:05:08,719 Josh Conney just says, I want to I hear they got rid of the 944 01:05:08,719 --> 01:05:13,400 condition slash stamina system. They also remove the free healing at the base of 945 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,480 Tartarus. Is it more like coun percent of four handles healing and resource management 946 01:05:16,639 --> 01:05:24,199 in dungeons. We didn't talk about this alliot. Twilight Twilight Fragments, Yeah, 947 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,199 that's something that encourages you to actually do a little more exploration, which 948 01:05:28,239 --> 01:05:30,440 is I think is kind of cool because in the overworld, you know, 949 01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:33,239 there's all there's all these different places to explore, and even if it's a 950 01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:36,920 little more shallow than say a percent of five or even a percent of four, 951 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,360 the game encourages you to go to all these different places that you might 952 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,920 not go because there's not a social ink or whatever, and to actually walk 953 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,199 around at least and check out all the different you know, just walk up 954 01:05:47,199 --> 01:05:50,000 to it and you know, you press a yal a little bit flavor text. 955 01:05:50,239 --> 01:05:55,199 But now, Twilight Fragments are just these things scatter across the ground all 956 01:05:55,239 --> 01:05:59,320 throughout the overworld and when you pick them up or you get them from Elizabeth, 957 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,079 because you know, they want to give you some the work with as 958 01:06:01,119 --> 01:06:04,519 you progress with the game. But you pick these things up and they can 959 01:06:04,519 --> 01:06:08,360 do things for you when you're in Tartaris, and so One of those things 960 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:14,320 is the aforementioned healing your party. You spend seven Twilight fragments in the main 961 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,079 lobby of Tartarists to get that full heel, or you can also else can 962 01:06:17,239 --> 01:06:21,760 the chest. There are specific chests all throughout targets that you can only unlock 963 01:06:23,159 --> 01:06:25,519 that you know normal treasure chests just walk out to it. For this, 964 01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:29,159 it's like you need x amount Twilight fragments, and then the more fragments you 965 01:06:29,199 --> 01:06:32,320 need to open usually the better the item is they get inside. Elizabeth is 966 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,960 still the best velvet room attendant right, like easily one thousand percent. Like 967 01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:42,719 she is so goofy, she's so funny. Yeah, definitely, uh yeah. 968 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,159 So another thing too, though, I would say, is like I 969 01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:51,559 do not recommend using spending twilight fragments on healing. I would suggest like finding 970 01:06:51,639 --> 01:06:58,280 more in clever ways to heal your party and restore sp because there will be 971 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,800 times when you run out of Twilight fragments. Seven is a lot. There's 972 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,239 a lot, and then the deeper you get into this game, the more 973 01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:09,920 of those special chests show up. And there's nothing worse than pulling up to 974 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:14,400 a three star special chest and you have two Twilight fragments and you're like, 975 01:07:14,519 --> 01:07:16,800 damn, I know that the best weapon I could possibly get is in that 976 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:21,719 chest. Yeah. Yeah, to go to the pharmacy on Saturday your stock 977 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:27,639 up there, fragments? Yeah, that real quick, because IM wondering this 978 01:07:27,679 --> 01:07:30,639 too. Does Elizabeth still have the social link from fests in this Yeah, 979 01:07:30,719 --> 01:07:33,559 well it's not a social link, but you take her out to hang out. 980 01:07:34,599 --> 01:07:38,800 Yeah, that's still there. It's it's the same as you remember, 981 01:07:39,239 --> 01:07:45,039 and it's still very adorable. Nice, lovely, lovely. Well, speaking 982 01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:49,039 about being adorable, is it an adorable group of folks we've assembled here today 983 01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:54,760 to talk about an adorable swaggy game? Michael him, would you say it's 984 01:07:54,800 --> 01:08:01,000 whimsical? It's probably light on the whimsy. I don't know what to tell 985 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:06,440 you. Man. It maybe quite as wisical as other RPGs, But uh 986 01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:11,800 no, I don't know if I could say that. That's not the word 987 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,960 for persona. Don't paint the man into a corner like that. All right, 988 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,319 all right, well, okay for PERSONA six, when that eventually comes 989 01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:23,159 out, what do you think the whimsy factor is here? It'll be higher 990 01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:28,439 than this. Here's my question for for for Michael PERSONA expert, PERSONA three, 991 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,479 Blue, Persona four, Yellow, Persona five bread. What is the 992 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:38,600 key color for PERSONA six? Color right now? Purple? Yeah, colors 993 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,239 at some point they can't use green. That's soule hackers, that's ticking. 994 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,880 Also, green is kind of like half P three because of the dark hour. 995 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:53,199 True purple would be good. Yeah, might be an orange, pink, 996 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:59,239 hot pink, maybe those Barbie Barbie vibes, right, I don't know, 997 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,359 I'll be sick. P three p though, did pink for the pink 998 01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:09,600 for the female route? Bute just took all the colors? Okay. Well, 999 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:15,640 last week when I had the panel describe uh like a dragon infinite wealth 1000 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,880 with a series of emojis, I'm going to ask you gents to do the 1001 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:27,439 same. Oh, the face emoji and then the gun emoji. Ill. 1002 01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:32,560 Yeah, I'll add a clock. Yeah, oh the midnight our little like 1003 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,720 U. I animation, by the way, is very good. Yeah, 1004 01:09:35,239 --> 01:09:43,439 a lot and a scary ghost oh okay, speaker ghost. Is there specifically 1005 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,039 a rapier emote or is that too specific? I think they have the cross 1006 01:09:47,079 --> 01:09:53,880 swords. I think that I need to represent ye. I know the other 1007 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,439 games have it, and that's just just I know why they do, but 1008 01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,199 still always so funny. See Ukari just in her bright pink like jack it 1009 01:10:00,279 --> 01:10:03,039 in like the high school while every other person is wearing a uniform. It's 1010 01:10:03,079 --> 01:10:08,199 like, can you find the make here part of the party when they break 1011 01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:14,319 the dress code? Yeah? Ye, spot the anime protagonist who has colored 1012 01:10:14,359 --> 01:10:16,479 hair? Like who has the blue hair? Yeah? Oh? The funniest 1013 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,880 is that yu Giah one of the oh my god, yeah in the crowd, 1014 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:26,239 like who could it be? Uh? Well, damn, okay, 1015 01:10:26,359 --> 01:10:30,600 I've been convinced. I've been wooed to stick with PERSONA three, that is 1016 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:35,079 until that is, perhaps until you know, we all need to devote some 1017 01:10:35,159 --> 01:10:43,079 more time to another gigantic rap. Yeah that remade right? Who knows? 1018 01:10:43,119 --> 01:10:47,279 I don't know. Yeah, my PS five can't take discs, so if 1019 01:10:47,279 --> 01:10:51,720 this is a multi disc joint, I can't fuck I don't know. Yeah, 1020 01:10:53,119 --> 01:10:56,800 uh, Michael him working, Folks. Find you on the internet these 1021 01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,439 days. You can find me and all my bullshit at Michael pw I'm on 1022 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,279 Twitter and at hi am Michael on Instagram. You can find me writing words 1023 01:11:04,359 --> 01:11:10,399 and doing things and videos on gamespad dot com and IGN dot com as well. 1024 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,520 Damn, damn, damn. Okay, Okay, Mikey, I was 1025 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,119 gonna say apples. I'm not going to say it. Mikey meatballs, Mikey 1026 01:11:17,319 --> 01:11:23,760 meat monkey meatballs. That seems kind of that seems racially coded like meatballs. 1027 01:11:24,399 --> 01:11:29,600 I mean it's true. Hey, I want to really a real quick question 1028 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,800 before the plugs. Mike, do you put breadcrumbs in a meatball? Or 1029 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,960 is that yes? No? Okay, okay, yes, so no, 1030 01:11:35,199 --> 01:11:39,279 it's important for the for the right texture. You want to have some Uh 1031 01:11:39,319 --> 01:11:43,520 there's a whole video by Adam Orgucia where he did like experiments like ten percent 1032 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,960 bread comes, twenty percent, fifty percent. He figured out the exact ratio. 1033 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,239 I forget what it was, maybe like twenty five percent. You need 1034 01:11:49,279 --> 01:11:53,600 some bread comes in there to help absorb moisture to get a good texture. 1035 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,720 Yes, they're important. Okay, Okay, you were I interrupted your thought. 1036 01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,000 You were going to shout something out. Just I want everybody to check 1037 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,640 out the new Nineties Dizzy the podcast. It is about Castle Illusion. It's 1038 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:05,760 about a video game, classic Genesis game, and it's many sequels and spin 1039 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,960 offs and successors and things like that. So yeah, check out Nineties Disney 1040 01:12:10,079 --> 01:12:13,000 please. Un Last, but certainly not least, Turbo Sewan. Where can 1041 01:12:13,039 --> 01:12:15,199 Fox find you on the internet if you want to be found? That is 1042 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,880 well, if people want to find me, I would be on Twitter dot 1043 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:24,880 com as at Turbo Shawn Underscore and then Turbo Shan, s A Jawn everywhere 1044 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,399 else, Blue Sky, Twitch, all you know the works, and then 1045 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,640 professionally, hey you're all Ryan Right's place here a giant bomb editing doing social 1046 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,880 media occasionally being on camera. As you can see, it's the best stuff. 1047 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:40,359 It's the best stuff. Particularly check out the death stranding TikTok that Shawn 1048 01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:43,960 made. Oh yeah, that's popping off. I saw it this on when 1049 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,119 I was like, oh, I feel light. Though, since I am 1050 01:12:45,159 --> 01:12:48,439 in the presence of Sean, I do want to formally thank you for representing 1051 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:55,840 Octopath Traveler two in the Game of the Year. So helpful. I'm so 1052 01:12:55,960 --> 01:13:00,439 glad that that was awesome. Thank you for I want to thank you for 1053 01:13:01,119 --> 01:13:04,439 you know what I might give you ship for being a Disney adult, but 1054 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,600 you know what you are true. You are true to yourself to the very 1055 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,960 end, and I admire that and I think everyone can learn something from embracing 1056 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,079 who they are. That's very true. Yes, Mike is are you good 1057 01:13:16,079 --> 01:13:20,680 on compliments for today? Are you good for till the weekend? Yeah? 1058 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:26,319 I could still use a few more points from Dan the freaking whatever dash. 1059 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,159 Let me just remove a point from your score. Go ahead and do it 1060 01:13:30,199 --> 01:13:34,760 preemptively. Dan's got to maybe jump on a plane this weekend. He has 1061 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:40,159 no time to award or remove points. Right, we'll see, we'll see, 1062 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:45,039 folks. That does it for this week's edition of bc R. Thank 1063 01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:46,960 you Sean, thank you Michael, and thank you Mike. Uh. Next 1064 01:13:47,039 --> 01:13:50,920 week on BCR, who knows what the heck we'll talk about. Maybe we'll 1065 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,439 have another hot topic. If you want to suggest the topic, feel free 1066 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:58,079 to shoot an email at bombcasta giant bomb dot com, at me on the 1067 01:13:58,119 --> 01:14:01,039 Twitter machine, or drop a comment. I rarely read the comments for my 1068 01:14:01,039 --> 01:14:03,199 own mental health, but I'll do it. I'll do it for you. 1069 01:14:04,319 --> 01:14:06,800 I do it. I'll see it. Thank you, Sean. There's been 1070 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:12,720 some nice comments lately. I don't want to people are saying nice things about 1071 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,359 us, Okay, see that That's what I was doing. Yeah, I 1072 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,760 was fishing for them. I was fishing for the nice comments. I was 1073 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,720 like, oh, well, I don't read. I don't read the threads, 1074 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,119 I don't read the comments. I do I exhaustedly read. This is 1075 01:14:26,119 --> 01:14:29,720 why he's the producer. I just need to make sure that like I don't 1076 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:35,119 know, like I didn't show my ass one week or so. That's that's 1077 01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:43,600 super premium that we're rolling out. I don't fucking know. But folks, 1078 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,479 we'll see uh on Tuesday for an episode of The Giant BombCast. I believe 1079 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,239 Greb is going to be back doing gm M. I don't know if on 1080 01:14:50,319 --> 01:14:55,760 Monday, but we'll see. We'll see if he's uh back from being here 1081 01:14:56,399 --> 01:14:59,359 and stuff. All right, I've been janned, he's been Sewan, he's 1082 01:14:59,359 --> 01:15:06,600 been Michael. He he has also been Michael. We'll see you next week. Goodbye,