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This is I on the Ball with
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R Twosa at iHeartRadio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to

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Friday Show and welcome to I on
the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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I'm Steve Rivera. Jay is out
again today on the beach somewhere.

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You got Andy Brown? How are
you? Andy? I'm great? What's

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Jay? Jay's out on a cruise
or something. He's just in Rocky Point.

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Oh well, that's kinda joined Servesa
the beach his family. Oh good,

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body's gonel like to see here and
be with you? Yes, yes,

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and thanks for coming in. And
we got our guy Juan in working

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the studio. Buttons soon to be
a Wildcat for life, Senior year one.

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Nice bro. Can't wait, Open
doors, open doors. We'll see

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what happens, right, See what
he's a journalist, major is going to

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take your Spotty said that's fine with
me. With me pushed me out.

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It'd be the old what do you
call that? Well, you don't leave.

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You just got press buttons. Yeah, well I don't talk, you

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press buttons. Yeah. Yeah,
I don't know how to do that stuff.

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That's why we have Want and the
rest of the guys in the year,

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all those colors. I don't understand
it, and people will understand No

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me, no exactly that I'm not
like that. Well, happy Friday,

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but yes, welcome. And it's
been a while it has been. What's

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up man? When you keep me
in the dark, Well, you gotta

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be. You're busy, man,
You're busy out doing your stuff. You

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have stuff going on today. You
have people working at the old stadium.

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Yeah, sold out crowd to night
six o'clock game. So tell me how

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many it's over nine thousand tickets have
been sold for this game. Wow,

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it's going to be awesome. Should
be only one hundred and two yeah,

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yeah, right in the shade.
Yeah. Being a former athlete, I

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don't know if you can answer this, but you're a former athlete. I

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don't think everyone has an advantage because
of the heat. Because you play,

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and you play. It's about playing. It is. It's the same,

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bad, same all roll it out
and you play right. So who can

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manage it better? Who can mentally
manage the game better? That's it.

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That's what it comes down to.
Totally agree with that. Thank you for

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agreeing with me. So but you
pulled off our little magic from your pocket

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today, thankfully, Thank you very
much. Yeah, a good friend of

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mine and next teammate friend of mine
too. He's a very hard elusive guy

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to find, and you found him
for us. He's the hardest working man

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in the NBA. Joseph Blair.
Yes, he just needs to well I

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get on a better team. But
that's their job to get make him better.

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You know. I don't think Joseph
ever is shied away from any time

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trying to make something better. Right. He likes that challenge and I commend

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him mine. Yeah, he's gonna
make a name for himself and he's gonna

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do it. He has, he
has. I know his name has been

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floated around for a few jobs.
I think it was last year when he

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was up for a job or tour
as a finalist in Minnesota somewhere, a

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couple of places. So he's in
Minnesota or not Minnesota. He's in Washington

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now with the Wizards, East Coast
bias. Ask him about Ma's better Tucson

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when he hit Yeah, well,
bigger city. He's bigger city. The

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vegan, the Vegan coach, The
Vegan coach. Yeah, Vegan Diaries.

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If you follow him, he said, it's a great little podcast, little

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great thing he does on social So
I'm going to introduce him just like that,

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the Vegan coach. I love.
It looks really well in those seas,

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seeing he's still dunks it once in
a while. In practice, you'll

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see it. He shows the young
guys. I can say year nineteen ninety

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six was almost thirty years ago,
ninety four, final fourteen thirty four.

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So I'm just thinking when he finished, when you guys, you have thirty

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years ago. So he's got to
be about fifty like you. Fifty two

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is fifty. I think he's fifty
to fifty one. Okay, I'm fifty

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two, so he's younger than me. Okay, so he's about fifty fifteen.

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Carry the two out of d by
s, those buttons I don't know

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and dog ears I'm still seven years
old. Yeah, yeah, that's why

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you go into the gym, right, Yeah, back in the gym after

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a couple of months of cibernation.
Yeah, A couple of quick things are,

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uh, in your capacity of your
work, you're kind of like the

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coach whisper. When you go to
games, you walk to coaches to their

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to their not necessarily me, but
my folks to hang out there. Wat,

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I've got this one. I got
this one. You know, I

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know you. I make it a
point to be there and say hello,

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hey, coach, how you doing. Welcome? So in your in your

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line of work for all these years, did you happen to spend some time

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with mister Bill Walt Bill Walm.
Of course, he's been in McHale several

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times, as he calls it,
and he loves to go on rants about

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the magic of McHale and you know, bitting everywhere and talking. But the

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guy walked into a room and just
like you see on ESPN, he commanded

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presence, and he just brought a
smile to people's faces. And he was

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very welcoming. Never did I see
him like tell somebody you couldn't do something.

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He didn't want to take a picture, he would he send sign autographs

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for hours after games sometimes, and
my guy wanted to go home. Let's

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go, we gotta go right.
The first time I met Bill wall and

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I was living in Vegas and I
was working a Bank of America Basketball clinic

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that he was helping put on his
traveling Give me the time frame nineteen ninety

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six, ninety seven, ninety six
because Luke had just signed I think Luke

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Luke eight. Yeah, because Luke
had just come on the team Richard Jefferson,

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him and Ricky Anderson. So that's
ninety eight and yeah, so that's

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right around the time. So I'm
I signed up to coach to help coach,

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and he's brings me on the on
the court and we start talking.

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He's gonna he does his little lunchtime
special right right chosen. He's like,

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God, I need I need somebody
to come out Andy, You're an EU

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of a guy. Come out here
Bay defense on me. He was trying

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to teach guys how to offensive move
boss, you know, low box stuff.

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And he used me a couple of
times. And this guy to me,

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I was like, this guy can't
even move. There's no way,

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and he scored like two in row
was like, yeah, he's making me

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look horrible out here. And I'm
grad student. I'm twenty three, twenty

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four years old. On so I
start digging him up. I started pushing

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it in his back and I was
like, I'm tad to kick him in

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the knee cap or something. But
he turned around a shot and I gave

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him a little elbow push, you
know, and his shot went long.

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He's like, oh, did coach
Eilsen teach you the move? I go,

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you know he did at slap on
the elbows? Know what he sees

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it? Well, I remember that
was but he was great. He's like,

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hey, thanks for playing along,
and say, hey, I understood.

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I know. I'm a role guy. I know my role. I

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said, you're supposed to score.
I'm supposed to let you score, but

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once in a while, I'm gonna
tap you on the shoulder on you're an

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elbow and you're not gonna make Where
did that come from? Oh that's the

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Arizona and you I go, yes, Well we talked about this a couple

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of days ago. When when you
know, Tuesday don't gets we passed Monday.

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How there was? He was divisive, he was polarizing, but people

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loved him, but they just didn't
like his approach to the game, right,

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But once he passed, everybody loved
him. Yes, I didn't know

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watching all those all those news clips
that he sat out in Portland that year

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because they didn't agree with how they
were treating players and their injuries. I

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didn't. I never knew that about
it, right, because and then he

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went to the Clippers and was right
away trained to the Celtics. And then

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he actually called Parish right he said, hey, do you mind I'm coming

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to back you up? Are you
okay with me coming in the sun?

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Well? Yeah, well I think
maybe that was before he talked to reddt

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Aarback because her back. If you
saw his specials thirty on thirty, No,

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it's fantasic, the Walton Walton,
Yeah, the luckiest guy in the

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world. Yes, fantastic. Watched
it two times. So he called the

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Celtics and arabea Arback was on the
front phone, can I come and join

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it? And I guess Bird was
in the room when he was on the

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phone, right, he says Versus
Balmon wants to come, said yeah,

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I bring him, yeah, because
he was his idol got up, so

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bring him. And he turned out
to be this fantastic, perfect guys man,

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right, perfect guy because you don't
and you saw Luke play. I

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saw. I still say Luke has
a lot of Luke a Bill in him

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where he could see the court.
Yes, see the court. And even

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with you guys back in the ninety
ninety four, ninety five, they six

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ninety four for you, Uh,
you didn't have a guy like Luke.

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I want to say Luke, but
liter Luke who saw the court like him.

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You know, Damon was fantastic,
but he was a heck of a

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player saw the court, but in
a different way. Sure, and Kalid

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and Khalid was just a guy who
just give me the ball and wards the

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basket, clin getting the bunk out
of the way. Yeah, yeah,

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make sure you were in the right
spot. Rayo's maybe maybe, but not

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really. I mean, he was
the guy in ten foot twelve foot jumper

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crashed the board a little jb was
the guy underneath. Yep. You don't

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see a lot of guys like Walton
anymore that you can hit that consistently eleven

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foot that's an odd shot, right
turn around Now it's all turn around in

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two day's world. Yeah, yeah, no, you know, you don't

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get those fifteen foots anymore because when
you lose that touch, you move out

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to the three point line. Like
Channing fried Man living out there the last

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four five years. It's phenomenal.
Yeah, and then that all the analytics.

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You know it's better to shoot a
three. You shoot you know him

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on two blah blah blah, and
the midrage game is gone. Yes,

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you know what's bringing it back is
Anthony Edwards. Edwards so and KD does

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it now and again because he's more
of a turn around jumper guy. And

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you know, I like watching when
he is on Jason Tatum when that guy

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can he just turn around shoot and
you're like, that's not going and it's

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nothing but net like, how does
he do that? Yeah? But when

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he's off, he's off. Let
me tell you how he does that.

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Andybrid If I paid you a few
million, I would shoot every day.

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You would be good at that because
guess what, you get paid lots of

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money, lots of It's like a
surgeon. If I'm going to the hospital,

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I better have one of those good
surgeons right that knows how to do

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what they're doing everything because he's getting
paid a lot of money to save my

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life. Even on a bad day, you're still scoring twenty. I'm not

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going to to some someplace with wood
off. Basketball and surgery really lines up.

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But you know what I'm saying,
These guys get a lot of money.

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They get paid a lot, You
get paid a lot of life.

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Yeah that's true, right, this
guy gets a lot of money to get

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to make baskets. Yeah, you
better make baskets. Well, I'm gonna

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sneak in a little plug from my
Centurion organization. You just met with the

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TMC which is in the hospital in
town that we donate money to, Okay,

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and they are raising money. We
actually raised money for them, and

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they're looking at upping their simulation processes
in the hospital where you actually go to

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a simulator just like you would do
a find a plane and you see how

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many errors they've weeded out, and
you know in the in the industry of

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onyx, but doing it in the
pradical profession as well with simulations simulator babies

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and and kids. So we're like, yeah, that's that's help. But

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they're gonna do so talking about this, they're getting people to practice along,

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like the whole team, so the
nurses, with the doctors, with the

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people in the room, and it's
gonna cut down airs medical errors by in

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some cases. Well, I thought
it was about you know that toy game

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with the operation right now, this
is not your mom's operation game. No,

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these kids talk their eyes open and
close, their their their lungs actually

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move up and down, and it
was amazing. We went Wednesday, we

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went to a little demonstration. We
actually got to do chess compressions and watch

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monitors. And I tell you what, maybe basketball and surgery now makes more

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sense. You got to practice.
You can practice. Thank you, Thank

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you for helping me out with that
analogy. I know we stretched it,

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but we made it. Well,
that's fine, that's fine. Uh Okay,

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So we have JB here in about
eight minutes or so. Uh and

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then in the second hour, you
know, we have our guy, Jake

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Fisher, who has always a lot
to say. Now that with basketball going

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on, with love coming, people
going, YadA YadA, Bradley coming back,

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we'll talk more about that. I
won't talk a lot about it throughout

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the and I know JB can't probably
talk a whole lot because of that collision

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but tampering, But we'll ask him
just what his thoughts on the program.

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Sure, that'll be funny. I'm
interested in how Yeah, when he wanted

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to decide to do this. We've
had him a couple of times, especially

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after he won the Coach of the
Year at the at the Vipers. I

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think it was real Grand Vipers,
Real Grand Yeah, was helping with Rosieie

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right and Rossie we had the loot
thing a few years ago, and Brozzie

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says, you know, JB's pretty
good at this. Uh And and what

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he's good at, which is not
gonna surprise you, is he's a bs

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er in in terms of he knows
how to deal with people. He's a

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people guy. Yeah, absolutely,
And that bs is not the right word,

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but you know what I'm saying.
He can communicate with people very very

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well. He knows your button,
he knows what motivates you as a person,

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can press that button. Yeah,
good coaches do that. Excellent.

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I have a great story on that
if you have time. Yeah, okay,

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well let's go and do it right
now. Yeah. We got about

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a minute and a half. This
was Dick Tony. My brother played for

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Dick Tomy. I might have told
this story before. And my brother wanted

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to quit. He's a walk on
the same time as me, and he

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went in to see coaches. I
have a meeting with coach. I'm gon

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tell him I'm gonna quit. Blah
blah, I said, Okay. I

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saw him on campus about six hours
later, and I was like, hey,

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Han, the meeting with coach go. He's like, oh, it's

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great. I go, so are
you on the team. He's like,

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yeah, I thought you were quitting. He's like, no, coach talking

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me out of it. I go, what do you say? I have

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no idea, but I want to
run through a wall. And I left

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his office. The guy. The
guy was fabulous. He goes, I

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wish I'd talked to him more.
I go, maybe you should, right,

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So that's coach. A good coach
like Tony and Loop can grab you

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and make you feel like you're the
best in your focus. Right, that's

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their focus for that time. You
know, this guy really knows and cares

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about and the old school dudes who
says, you see that door some on,

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don't forget to shut it right,
let me talk to the man tell

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you. And he's happy that he
stayed. I won't say it was happy.

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No, But he played, and
he played one more year and he

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finished, and yeah, he did
what he wanted to do. Okay,

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he proved the point that he could
do it. Yeah, when you're a

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walk on, guys with scholarships or
in front of you just don't get that.

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No, you know fair shape.
No, there's a reason why they

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have scholarships exactly. Yeah, okay, let's take the break here, come

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fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back
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Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's not Jay, but he is

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Andy Brown. And now on the
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Vegan coach, the Washington Wizards coach, assistant coach. How are you,

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Joseph? You there? Hello?
Go Jamie there you are there? You

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are Hey? How are things?
Were you? Joseph? Good to hear

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your voice you as well. I
am blessed and I'm blessed for sure.

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Yeah, been a long time since
we have you on the phone. How's

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how's life in the NBA for you? It's been good. It's been one

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aggrant experience, you know, for
someone who loves basketball and play basketball for

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so long. Being able to coach
at this level now and just seeing the

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other side of the game has been
such a great experience for me, and

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it really makes you appreciate my former
coaches even more. Yeah, but also

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just as really gave me a bird's
eye view of the evolution of the game

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of basketball since from when I played
to where we're at now. So it's

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been just a great experience for me. I've learned from a lot of great

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coaches and been around some of the
amazing players as well. You know,

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I tell everybody like this is it
is literally the best league on planet Earth.

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So to be a part of it
is an honor. To work with

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the people I work with, I'm
just super blessed and honored. So I

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think I met you when you're eighteen. Had to be like ninety two ish,

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maybe ninety two and eighty three maybe, no, ninety one ninety two.

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What would what would Joseph Blair today
tell that kid way back when?

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What would he tell him stop being
such a dumb ass together? No,

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but you would tell that to launch
it. Honestly, it's easy to say

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all that, But you know,
I'm at this point in my life where

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if everything didn't happen the way it
happened, I wouldn't be where I'm at

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now, and I'm so blessed to
be where I'm now. I wouldn't want

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to go back and change one thing, because the ripple effect could have me

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not being here right now. So
I would love to say I'd go and

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part all this with them on myself, and I'd make all these different changes,

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but any one of those changes would
change the way my life is right

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now where I've transpired, and I
wouldn't be on the phone with you guys

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right now, and God forbid that
happen. When did you de sign that

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coaching was going to be your thing, or a good question your paston or

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something you wanted to proceed. You
know, it's interesting there's a story of

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how the can of coach. You
know, when I was in Tucson,

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you guys knew I was doing a
lot of nonprofit work. That was my

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thing. And while I was doing
that, I got approached by a couple

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of people, just some influent,
influential groups I'm not going to say their

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names in Tucson. They wanted me
to that told me if I ran through

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politics, they'd endorsed me. And
at the time, I thought, you

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know what I want to do that
I love the community so much that I

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can represent this community I love.
I'm totally down to do it. But

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the one thing is I hadn't finished
my degree yet, so I want to

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get back and finish my degree as
well. So that's why I reached out

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to Sean Miller at the time,
and I said, hey, Sean,

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look if you guys pay for the
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you can do and I already looked
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assistant is actual thing as my compliance
wise, you guys do that, I'll

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help with the team. Win win
for both of us. My name recognition

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goes up even further because now I'm
coaching with the team. I win my

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political race. Everybody's happy. But
what happened was as I got there and

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I started working together with the team. As everyone knows Caleb Karzuski. He

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was my one of my closest players. We worked together a long time on

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a certain move for Caleb, and
it was one of the first preseason games.

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Caleb made that move and he scored
the ball, and as the team

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ran down the other end, the
whole bench turned and looked at me and

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said, JB, that's all you. I got goosebumps all over and I

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said, you know what, I
love this coaching. I'm gonna do this

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coaching thing instead, and hell with
politics and held t Son politics. Not

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really that, because you know,
I still love Tucson, but I always

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said, you know, I know
I can come back and still be involved

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in the community at some point in
my later life. But the coaching just

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it was a God called right there, and I think they got put things

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before you and just asked that you
act on them. And that's why I

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did. For years when I worked
in the community in Tucson, I felt

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like it was a calling for me
to do that. And then it was

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just another the next door was open
and I need to step through it.

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And that's what I did, and
that's what I've been doing. Right In

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fact, I remember doing a story
for BIZ Tucson. I know that I

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talked to a lute about it and
he was very proud of you because you

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too, and he was honest.
You come along, You had come along

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the way to that point, Oh
for sure. I mean, anyone who

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knows me, you know, it's
interesting. I'm actually putting a book together,

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and it's just like I'm having one
lady, just interview people and say,

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tell your most vulnerable JB story.
Yeah, and I think that if

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you asked people from even when I
went to high school to even my first

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couple of years of college, and
then you asked people five six years ago,

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now the stories are so diverse,
just because I know I've evolved.

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I've really grown into myself and have
a different understanding of life, of God,

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of love of everything, joy and
happiness and what it means to be

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alive comparatively when I was young and
really hard headed. But also at the

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same time, you know, I, you know, if anyone knows my

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upbringing, coming up so meekerly,
I definitely had a different perspective of life

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as a whole. And even sports, you know, sports was an escape.

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Now I understand sports is not only
escape but it's also a means of

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bringing people together. So it's just
I really the spectrum of JB is is

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extremely wide. So so let me
ask Andy real quick, because you were

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a teammate of his one or two
years now one year okay, So so

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I know JB. He's exactly how
we describing something. Something hard headed,

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sometimes the pain and the next sometimes
not. What are you doing? Come

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down now? I can't, but
I'm conf what you're saying. What would

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you say and be honest and be
honest. I'm be honest. Joseph didn't

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hold that didn't matter if you're walking
on, if you were a five star

407
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.000
player, he gave you the best, and then it didn't take anything.

408
00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:59.599
I don't say granted, but he
didn't give you anything right, So I

409
00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:02.359
didn't matter if I was a walk
on or if I was the guy trying

410
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.200
to take a spot. He didn't
take it easy on nobody. He played

411
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:07.839
as hard as one and I remember
a couple of times getting used and going

412
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:11.279
that ain't gonna happen again. I'm
gonna hold him and foul them and do

413
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.160
whatever I gotta do. But that
was it. It was like I'm gonna

414
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.880
go one hundred percent and if you
can't catch up, then we'll find somebody

415
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:21.759
else. Well, that was Joseph. I mean, I love playing with

416
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.799
Joseph. It was every day was
a battle. If it wasn't him,

417
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:29.519
it was dre O's and I was
having a foul. Or do something every

418
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:33.440
day and keep it right right.
I have a question for Joseph is did

419
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:40.599
basketball give you the confidence to try
new things and opportunities when they arose to

420
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:45.680
jump out him, like coaching or
you know, doing your fundraising things like

421
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.279
that. Is that something you got
from Coach Olson or from basketball or is

422
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:53.240
that something you've always had in your
soul. I guess I think that a

423
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:56.400
lot of it. I mean,
I want to credit basketball because it took

424
00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:02.480
me across the globe based and I
think that a lot of me playing overseas

425
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.440
made me understand more of what could
be done in the community. Even with

426
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:08.880
the basketball camps. You know,
I ran those camps for twenty years in

427
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:12.000
Tucson. That it had to do
with when I was at the glowth Charters,

428
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:15.359
I ran their camp and I was
like, well, how come we

429
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:19.440
can't we should have a camp like
this in tucsonwhere it's just people come together

430
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.000
that like basketball. They now be
great at basketball, but you get to

431
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.400
learn about basketball. And I love
your time there. I love your time

432
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.960
together. And then my understanding of
just people and taking these big jumps.

433
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:33.200
I mean, you can imagine for
someone that's never left the country outside,

434
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:36.920
you're going to leave the country on
your own to live and mind you,

435
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.160
when I first went overseas, there
was no internet, there were no cell

436
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.039
phones, there was no Skype,
WhatsApp, none of the things you have

437
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:47.440
now, it was just you going
overseas, and that leap itself, just

438
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:49.400
to be on my own and do
that really is what gives you the confidence

439
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:53.079
that you can fight and live by
myself in another country for over a decade

440
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:57.200
where I don't speak the language and
manage what can I do? And I

441
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.160
just felt like that really gave me
the comp has to do a lot of

442
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:06.200
different things and try to different things
right. And you were able to speak

443
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:10.119
a few languages, now, don't
you. I do well. I speak

444
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:14.599
Spanish decently, I understand better than
I speak. I'm fluent Italian and I

445
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:19.160
speak very fluently Bonics, and I
can and I can curse you out in

446
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:22.640
about four other languages. Well,
just do it once in some certain language.

447
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.960
I'm fine with that. So one
of the things I just had to

448
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.759
be four or five years ago at
an event and then Brazzi we were talking

449
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.759
okay and blah blah blah, and
he says, you know what, Steve

450
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:37.480
JB's got this. He's he's got
this. And the reason he's going to

451
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:41.000
be good at coaching is he knows
how to deal with people. He's a

452
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.000
good communicator. What'd you say,
Andy? He he gets me, he

453
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.359
knows the button, the push,
he knows your button, and he knows

454
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:53.559
how to kind of motivate you to
get you going. And is that accurate?

455
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:57.160
You think? And I think so? I think. You know,

456
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.200
I'm obviously I can articulate myself pretty
well, but I think a lot of

457
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.480
it. And I tell this all
the time. Part of why I'm such

458
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.720
a good coach is that time I
spend tuthon doing just my community community work.

459
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.960
If you think about I really was
just involved in a nonprofit community as

460
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:15.000
much as possible. And what do
nonprofits do like? They don't They're basically

461
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.960
trying to get everyone to believe in
their mission and their vision. And that's

462
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.759
your goal constantly and then you're asking
for people for through their money, their

463
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.920
time, or just their beliefs,
and you have nothing to give back in

464
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.240
return other than the mission and a
vision. Well, that's really what coaching

465
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.039
is all about, is getting everyone
to believe in my mission and my vision

466
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:34.599
and get them on the same page
or articulate myself well enough where they see,

467
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.440
they feel seen, hurt, and
valued all at the same time.

468
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.519
So they want to be a part
of what we're trying to create, what

469
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:42.759
we're trying to do. So my
goal is constantly to trade to create a

470
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:47.279
community inside of my basketball team.
And that's the way I've looked at it

471
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:48.960
since I've been coaching. It's the
only way I knew to look at it

472
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:53.279
because I've done it so much leading
up into my coaching. Yeah, us

473
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:59.920
articulate that much better than I.
Joseph tails still taking me to school.

474
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.079
Yeah, so real quick, do
you have a title for that book?

475
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.759
Sounds like a lot like my Loop
book. No, not yet, not

476
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:10.400
yet. I'm going back and forth
on it, and I don't want to

477
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.839
tell you because then I'll be stuck
in after use this. Let's just say

478
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.519
no, Okay, that's right,
that's right. Hey, I don't know

479
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:19.119
if you can speak to the Arizona
basketball program in your capacity. I don't

480
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:25.480
want any uh collision or tampering or
whatever. Can you say just your thoughts

481
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:30.799
on the program. I gonna say
this like I'm I'm I'm happy the way

482
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:36.920
it's going. I think that Tommy's
doing a real job, and you know,

483
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.200
I think that I've heard you know, some people are unsatisfied because we

484
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:42.680
didn't get too fun of four.
But I'm like, so what you kept?

485
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:48.200
Understand what he's been doing and how
quickly he's done. It is amazing.

486
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.759
When he came, no one expected
what he's already done to be done.

487
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:55.240
So now we're sitting back saying why
has it more been done? But

488
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:59.599
no, like the patients you had
when you signed him, where did that

489
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.440
go? As soon as he did? Had a great year. I won't

490
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.279
to expect something different, but I'm
very satisfied with it. I think the

491
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.559
program is going to continue to grow, continue to thrive. I know also

492
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:12.680
there's been such transitions with everything happening
in college basketball as a whole, with

493
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:18.640
the transfer portals, with the NILS
and now the school's being able to pay

494
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.400
players. I think it's just I
can only imagine how if I was at

495
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.200
college coach rob My head would be
spending trying to keep up with all the

496
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:30.519
constant changes that are happening. So
the fact that Tommy's done that and the

497
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.160
other coaching and to mind you,
I'm an assistant coach, I can't help

498
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:36.000
but to get props to all the
other assistants to work under Tommy, because

499
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.160
nobody does it on their own to
be able to do that and still bring

500
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:45.359
the players in. And you know, obviously the support in Arizona in Tucson's

501
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.400
amazing. I went to a game
this year and it's just it's so crazy

502
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.720
how much of the game's constantly evolving
and the McHale's evolving, and how they're

503
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:57.200
just making a true experience of the
basketball game. So I'm super I'm super

504
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.160
pleased with theirs on the basketball.
Obviously, personally, we all want to

505
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.880
see a championship. We all want
to see a Final four, but I

506
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:06.759
believe it's in the pipeline. I
believe it's in the pipeline. Yeah,

507
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.200
totally agree with you. In time, in time and all you guys got

508
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:13.680
through the Final four ninety four.
So another thing real quick, because your

509
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.880
name had come up a time or
two last year or the year before on

510
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:22.759
head coaching possibilities. I'm sure deep
down that's a possibility in the future for

511
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.720
you or you want that I do. I do. I'd love the opportunity

512
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.759
just to guide the own team.
You know, I have my chance with

513
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:32.599
the G League. We want a
championship the year as the head coach with

514
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:36.599
the G League, so I'm proud
of that, but obviously this is the

515
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:40.079
next step to that is NBA,
and just constantly I would love the opportunity.

516
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:44.279
But I'll say I'm going to take
what God gives me. If I'm

517
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.519
never that, I'm fine. If
I am that, that's fine. Either

518
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:51.599
way, I'm gonna do my best
and just you know, try to support

519
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:53.720
the people around me. My goal
is just a as as a may few

520
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:55.759
as I can grab and bring up
with me. That's my goal. And

521
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.119
you have to get somewhere to pull
them up right. It's hard to get

522
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.440
somebody else at the top of you
never been there. So that's the goal

523
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:07.640
for sure. If I'm blessed enough
to have it, I'll be ecstatic.

524
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:09.559
Let me ask you real quick,
because you did bring it up. I

525
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:13.480
don't know if you can't talk about
it too. The anil, the transfer

526
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:15.359
stuff. I'm thinking that back in
the day, you guys would have made

527
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:20.559
a killing in ninety four. Damon
you Collid all these guys. I'm not

528
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.960
sure about Andy. But but and
then the transfer thing. Maybe a young

529
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:29.160
JB Mean not have lasted three four
years here. He would have just left.

530
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:35.319
You know, we can speculate on
everything, right. I know for

531
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.160
sure we would have made some money. That would much, we know.

532
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:42.240
But as far as me leaving,
I'm gonna say, hell no, I

533
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.880
would have never left Arizona. I
left there. Good answer, Good answer.

534
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:50.119
Joseph would have been a face man
for anything. He was. Yeah,

535
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.000
he's yeah, more charasma than I've
ever seen. Yes, I will

536
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:55.640
say the one thing I think I
differed from a lot of people, and

537
00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:00.400
when it came to Tucson, I
mean at Arizona's because I was totally involved

538
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.000
in the community. I didn't really
do a lot of on campus stuff.

539
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.119
I was always trying to you know. I had a summer job every summer

540
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.480
at different locations were reaching Son.
I worked at Jim Klick, I worked

541
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:13.320
at World Buick, I worked at
Bombas Travel. I DJ'ed on the radio

542
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:15.599
there at the local station for two
years. You know, I I really

543
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.039
was really involved in the community.
I worked at the boys and girls clubs,

544
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.840
all the clubhouses as well one summer, so I was really just involved

545
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.400
in the community. Even all the
girls I dated in Tucson were two sonns.

546
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.599
Actually they weren't even one. Weren't
even a university is on a students

547
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.239
or they happen to be students.
That's that's where you learn your Spanish.

548
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:39.639
That's where you learn claud which means
yes, indeed. Hey, JB.

549
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:44.480
Good to hear from you. Great
to talk to you. Thank you guys

550
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:46.960
having me on. I miss you
guys. Thanks come out here anytime soon.

551
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:51.039
I know you're a regular every now
and again. I try to get

552
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:52.440
out whenever I can. If I
do, I'm coming over to your house.

553
00:34:52.480 --> 00:35:00.199
We're going to have some cold ones. Yes, he said, thank

554
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.320
you, JB. Appreciate it.
Thanks Jason, Jbot sit up here.

555
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.119
Wow. Cool, very cool.
He's you know, fun, he's a

556
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:08.519
fun dude. Oh he can.
I can listen to them all day.

557
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.639
I could. Yeah, he'd be
a great preacher. When he came back

558
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.920
to when he came back for the
game this year, he had tickets and

559
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.000
he's like, where do I sit? And I go, we just sit

560
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:20.920
in my seats right there because that
was the I think it was the last

561
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.199
game Oregon game. Oh really,
I said, sit right there because those

562
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.440
are my seats and I'm working.
So it just set in mind. You

563
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:28.400
can have two seats, right and
you can spread out. He's like,

564
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:30.599
all right, thank you, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's been

565
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.039
sitting talked to him and he wants
to know about your family and you and

566
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.360
he's just all in all, just
down to earth dude, right right.

567
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.239
I think he still has a home
there, doesn't he. No, he

568
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:45.920
sold it. Okay, let's take
the break and come back. If you're

569
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.519
an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you
know it's been successful for nearly forty years.

570
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Now. Take a look back at
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Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live on
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598
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to our the ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,

599
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sitting in for j is Andy Brown, one of the great sponsors. We

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got Kwan with us today fourteen minutes
Stuft. We're looking for some calls.

601
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:15.480
Juana has it under control five two
oh four one six seventy four forty.

602
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.199
So let me ask you, how
many assists did you have in your career?

603
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:24.679
My assist in my career at the
UFA R J zero. You had

604
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:29.239
one today? Oh nice, you
got you set it up? I set

605
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:30.639
you up, set me up?
No, I don't. I don't think

606
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.280
did you How many shots did you
have? Man? I had two,

607
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.159
two shots and you, Mick,
I made both? You did? Yes?

608
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.920
Okay? And I was fifty for
fifty from the line. So I

609
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:46.360
had a total of five points,
five points, no assists, probably two

610
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:50.079
or three, Okay, I got
one. I don't know if it counts

611
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.199
that. It was the final four
games it had okay, so the last

612
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.840
shot of the game. Okay,
And what was the previous game? Which

613
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:59.519
game? Well, you got these? Oh, the first game I can

614
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.920
tell you all about it. First
game is North New Orleans Arena. That's

615
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:06.280
one of the big man they had, the big man New Orleans came in,

616
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.440
University of New Orleans came in.
I don't know if Ivan Johnson was

617
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:13.079
on that. I think so maybe
it was, but we killed him.

618
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.840
Yeah, that's why I got to
play. Obviously I scored. And then

619
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.679
the next game, believe it or
not, was Michigan. Oh, the

620
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.920
final the Fab four, Fab four, we blew them out. People still

621
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.880
talking about that game. I got
to play that game. Khalid was fantastic.

622
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:30.320
I didn't even take my ankles that
game. I didn't think I was

623
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.599
going to play. I'm glad I
put shorts on underneath my warm up side

624
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:36.920
game. Right, it was a
great, great night at the Ubay.

625
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:38.760
Oh yeah, Kalid went for He
could have gone for one hundred that night,

626
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:42.039
right, I think he finished with
forty one. Oh my god,

627
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.280
he could have gone for fifty.
We want to coach and leave him in

628
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:45.519
and we want to leave him in
there. Let him give fifty. Coach

629
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:49.360
like, nope, no, We're
done. No. And then Damon?

630
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.599
Were you there when Damon was the
Stanford and't know he were gone? I

631
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.360
think he was a senior ninety five. He went for Stanford forty two.

632
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.519
Stanford was a tough game we played
there. That's when the core would would

633
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:04.400
bounce. Yeah, what a fantastic
They've never seen that before. In fact,

634
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.840
everybody raves about Duke and yeah,
yeah, I was went there this

635
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.760
year for the game. And to
tell you truth in my heart of hearts,

636
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:15.239
and I'm saying this not to blow
smoke, is that Stanford in those

637
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.360
days was much better than Duke.
Now, because you saw the games it

638
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:22.920
was. It was two rivalries,
and the and the kids over there are

639
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:28.039
pretty funny and clever, you know, funny. And the court would bounce

640
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.400
and bounce like not just a little
a lot, it would wave. It

641
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:35.400
would just like this. You can
be sound on the line, I think

642
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:42.840
would just and the basket would bounce. No, for my money, I

643
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.960
would take Stanford over Duke. But
I only had one chance at Duke,

644
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:49.719
so it's fine. It's fine.
But now they fixed the floor or not

645
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:53.159
fixed for they adjusted the floor.
Uh, and you don't say that the

646
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:59.000
program is going to crab Yeah,
okay, that's that's my highlights right there.

647
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.440
Lit it up and do minutes.
That's those good though you have.

648
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:07.599
You had a career. Many wishes
in my career actually consisted of water bottles

649
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:09.840
and gum. Oh give me that
blue gum story because I can't remember it.

650
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:15.199
So goach would we had red gum
and blue gum? Yeah? And

651
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:20.280
you were the how many on the
roster? Twelve twelve roster twelve twelve players?

652
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:22.719
You were the twelfth guy. I
was the twelfth man because you could

653
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:24.800
only travel with twelve. We had
more, but they weren't eligible to travel.

654
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:28.000
Okay, so you're a twelfth man. So I'm twelve man, and

655
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:31.199
I sit right next to the water
and the gum and the towels, and

656
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:36.280
Coach would come down and go blue
or red, depending on what mood he

657
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.280
was in, and I'd give him
a piece of gum according to the color,

658
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:42.239
or a water bottle if you asked
for water, brown, give me

659
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.800
blue, Hey, give me red. I said, okay, So one

660
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:47.679
game. I'm looking down. I'm
thinking I'm going into the game. I

661
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:52.280
think I'm going into the game like
I hadn't been in the game yet,

662
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:54.079
had not been in yet. Where
was this? That is this at home?

663
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:58.719
I'm waiting and I'm looking down.
Everybody's getting to play. I'm like,

664
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.320
man, he's not gonna put me
in, Like I guess I'm gonna

665
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.880
walk on. I guess I'm not
playing at all. Well, then he

666
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:07.840
comes down, and guys had warned
me that Coach was gonna f with me

667
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:09.480
a little bit. They're gonna he's
gonna do something like I don't see it.

668
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:13.719
The guy's business all the time.
Right then he comes down and goes

669
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.960
brown, and I jump up like
I'm ready to rip off my warm ups,

670
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:21.119
and he's like, give me him
blue. Gum this month, and

671
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:23.440
I turned around to get the blue
gum, just dejected, like like a

672
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:25.599
kick dog, and he's like,
no, no, no, no,

673
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:28.760
no, God, just getting with
you. Get in, get in,

674
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:30.639
go get so And so I was
like, oh my god. The whole

675
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:35.480
bench is just roll and just laughs. From then on, I was like,

676
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:37.679
hey, Brown, give me some
blue gum. And that was that

677
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.119
was his humor because it was very
dry. It was and very you know,

678
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.119
it's hard for him to tell jokes, but you would kind of know

679
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:45.920
when he told the joke because it
was very dry. Yeah, and he

680
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:47.920
chuckled a little bit. He got
to wait, he kind of give you

681
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:51.639
a little calf gread. Yeah,
like, oh, he's playing with me.

682
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:53.280
Yeah. But he never really told
stories about No, it's not a

683
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:57.840
good storyteller. No, No,
that was Bobby. Bobby is the one

684
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:02.360
that Bobby was his best point gun
ever. She talked about assists. So

685
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.079
it was great. But so bringing
those kids in on recruiting trips and getting

686
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.280
the pancakes in her house, sit
them in pancakes, apple pancakes. She

687
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:14.639
was, she was, she was
from She's the MVP. You had no

688
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:17.840
question. See, my boy,
Juana is getting the background in the good

689
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:22.920
old days, good old days,
missed Bobby knew more about me than I

690
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:28.320
think coached it. Probably she sat
you down, like on the bus rides

691
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.800
usually she grabbed somebody and sit you
down. This coach was always lasting on

692
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:35.159
and she'd sit next to She'd pull
you down and say, hey, Andy,

693
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.480
how are you. I'm like,
good missus though, oh call me

694
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:39.400
Bobby. Okay. I hear you
have a girlfriend, and I was like,

695
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:45.079
okay, she doesn't. Okay,
Like, and you have you know,

696
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:46.440
you're taking this class and that class, and go, oh, this

697
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:50.599
lady knows everything about me. She's
like, and your mom and dad they

698
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:52.159
live in town, and your mom's
a nurse. I'm like, oh my

699
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:58.159
god, how do you know all
this stuff? But she made you feel

700
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:00.800
like part of a family, right, and that I think one of the

701
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:06.920
most things that influence guys that stay
here and come here was that feeling of

702
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:08.920
a family. Yeah, that you
belonged to, that people cared about it.

703
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:13.280
Well. One of the things that
there was notorious just she when she

704
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.199
knew that you were going through some
stuff, she'd approach you and say,

705
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:21.239
don't worry, I'll have it with
lot, or I'll be the buffer.

706
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:22.880
If it wasn't her, it was
Ross. That's what I went through.

707
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:29.480
Yeah, Coach, doesn't you know
about this? Does he no? Right?

708
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:31.320
Right? And there's truly the good
old days. But I never had

709
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:35.960
that problem. I never had it. Did you go back for did you?

710
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:37.239
And you were back of the bus, probably with Chucky White? And

711
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.639
and did they something because they were
they were up at the front. They

712
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:44.480
were always in the front, and
they didn't hear what coach is always in

713
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:46.480
the front. And did she come
back and said what do you guys up

714
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:52.000
to? She never really came back
that I recall. No, she didn't.

715
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.320
Coach. Let us kind of police
ourselves, and it was it was

716
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:59.400
Damon. It was actually Damon would
be the first to talk. And then

717
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:01.199
if it wasn't him, it was
Colid. And if Colid had to talk,

718
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:07.079
you know something was up right because
he never talked. Clid one time

719
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:12.199
just said can we please get a
moment of silence? Look right at Corey.

720
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:17.000
I remember going, oh, he
has spoken. I laughed because I

721
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:21.280
know what it's like. Ray.
Ray never spoke. No, but Ray

722
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:24.599
was tougher than what he looked.
Yes, yeah, Ray knocked me out

723
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:29.559
when practice once I had to foul
him. That was my job all day,

724
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:31.639
just coach, you could just foul
him. I don't care. How

725
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:36.320
many are you trying to be?
I don't remember, because we were supposed

726
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:38.320
to be something was U C l
A or somebody and somebody that just that

727
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:44.800
he just because Ray had a hard
time playing right man and he got mad.

728
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.559
He kind of lost his touch.
But so I my job was a

729
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:51.480
foul him. And I fouled him
and fouled him, and I might have

730
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:54.480
hit an eyeball at one point and
he elbowed me. And I remember waking

731
00:45:54.599 --> 00:46:00.360
up staring at Michale lights and the
ceiling and having to go to the dentist

732
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:04.719
because I think I broke my jaw. Like, your job is, you're

733
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.719
the role player. If they had
concussion protocol back in there, I would

734
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.239
have been in it. You're the
role player, Like, oh my god,

735
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:14.400
I can't hear on my right ear. So we're kind of just going

736
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:16.000
back in time. Anybody wants to
call police, do five two, four,

737
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:19.480
one, six, seventy four,
forty and I have you because you're

738
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:25.400
kind of like the guy who observed
ninety three ninety four best Best Road Trips,

739
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:31.119
or again probably just fun trips.
Ninety four I love the l trip.

740
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.840
The l a trip was fun.
But you know what, we got

741
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:38.199
to play in the stable I mean
the arena coliseum right, No, it

742
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:43.239
was the the like nor where the
Lakers the form we played in I don't

743
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.679
remember being We played in the form
I thought was the ugliest, most run

744
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:49.079
down place. It was the Sports
Arena. No, no, no,

745
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.440
it was the Lakers four. I
can't remember that. It was. We

746
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.920
played USC on a Sunday. It
was on a Sunday and there was nobody

747
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.559
in there. Off the afternoon was
like a Sea Yes game and there was

748
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:05.719
nobody in there. They had they
had baby Jordan and what was the big

749
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:07.599
guy's name that played there. Yeah, I remember Barry Jordan. He was

750
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.719
exactly him. But ninety four we
played in the Forum and I just remember

751
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:14.840
going, oh, we're going to
play where the Lakers playing. We got

752
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.000
in there and I go, this
place is need some paint. See,

753
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.880
well, that was the Sports Arena
too, so I'm gonna have to verify

754
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:24.960
that. And you're throwing me some
sup because I remember going that Laker purple

755
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:30.079
does not look that color on TV. It actually looked like okay, I'm

756
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:32.360
gonna verify I try to verify that. But so at the beginning of the

757
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:37.440
year, you have you have two
guards of Salim and and that's Damon and

758
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:45.800
Kalid, and then Reggie with jb
and and Reyo's and Ben Ben was not

759
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.039
here yet. Ben was not here
yet, and you guys go to Maui

760
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.599
and uh, that's when it all
kind of you said, hey, these

761
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.519
guys could be good. Yes,
so we actually we started our Maui trip

762
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:59.719
in Santa Clara, if you recall, on the road in Santa Clair and

763
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.039
we opt them. We had to
get our revenge, our vengeance, right,

764
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:06.079
and then from there, from San
Francisco, we flew to Malui and

765
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.920
yes, we played some really good
ball in Mali. We lost to Kentucky

766
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:14.360
in the last minute, and we
knew at that point that we belonged with

767
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.440
everybody. And then if you recall, we come back and we stopped Michigan

768
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:21.480
in the Festa Bowl Classic right after
that. Yeah, and we didn't look

769
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:25.840
back in the Kentucky game in Maui. Uh, Collid I forgot to box

770
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:30.880
somebody out well and then the guy
got the rebound and scored the squid.

771
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:34.440
Yeah, it is what it is. Yeah, and I think if we

772
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:36.559
had won that game, things would
have been different. But I think we

773
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:38.840
would have got a big probably and
probably would have been because you guys were

774
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:43.599
rolling. You hadn't lost a game
until that until and then we came home.

775
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.400
I remember the opener we played Cal
at home and they beat us in

776
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:52.039
like double overtime. If you recall
you did you did no three, but

777
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:54.480
no overtime, no overtime. I
thought we lost. It was like overtime.

778
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:58.320
Oh, you're right it it was
overtime here you Gondy and ninety three

779
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.039
at home. That never happens.
So we lost to them. It was

780
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:05.159
Lam Murray and Jason. Oh no, no, that's when the streak.

781
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:07.840
Was that the streak? No,
because yeah, that was the streak we

782
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:12.559
lost? Yeah, that was a
street Was that the streak? Because because

783
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:17.320
the Martin was Martin Derk Martin hit
the shot over over over, Damon.

784
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:21.280
I don't think that was that year. It was in ninety one ninety two.

785
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.719
It was a different time. No
for cal I was there, cal

786
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:28.440
are you? No? No,
No, it was col Yeah, yeah,

787
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.800
no, no, no, Jason, But I'm talking about the streak

788
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.119
of losing the seventy one. That
was like in ninety two. But you're

789
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:36.920
right, you're right in the cal
the lost, but no, the streak

790
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:38.960
had been broken before. We wait, before that, that was like in

791
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:42.719
third grade. Yeah no, but
losing at home back then it was still

792
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.159
kind of like what the heck?
And so the next game we play cow

793
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:49.719
over there over there. We're supposed
to play it in the big arena,

794
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:51.840
and they're like, no, We're
going to play it in the little shack

795
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:55.840
that we hauled yea Carmen and we
packed people in there. I remember that

796
00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:00.599
was the loudest game I've ever been
at. The loudest. Yeah, back

797
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:05.159
and forth, and that's when Reggie
told Coach Chosen he wanted to guard Lamal

798
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:09.159
Murray. Yeah, He's like.
Lamon's like he's like six seven, what

799
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:14.039
you got one? And you get
we gotta call go ahead. Hey,

800
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:16.199
welcome tying the ball. You're on
the air, he Steve, this is

801
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:20.199
done. How you guys done?
Fine? How are you? Hey?

802
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.599
I'm all right? Hey, I
just wanted I don't know if you guys

803
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:27.320
have reported it or not. I
just saw on Twitter that the baseball game

804
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:32.119
tonight has sold out. Yeah.
Jb Andy said that he's a kind of

805
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:36.639
security guy there. Yes, so
you to go there? Are you going?

806
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:42.920
Well not now, I'm going to
try to get out there before the

807
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:47.639
end of this regional But how many
seats? How many people? Is that?

808
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.840
It's almost ten thousand, almost ten
thousand people. It's just over nine

809
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:58.519
thousand changed And that's a standing room
only two sure, because I don't think

810
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:05.000
it's ten thousand proceeeds. It's nine
thousand plus. It's a lot. It's

811
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:07.880
a lot because it was almost eleven
thousand I think the first night that they

812
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:13.880
played their back on the two thousand
and twenty twelve season, Yeah, because

813
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:16.760
we were there for that. We
got the commemorative ticket that night. Yeah.

814
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:21.159
I think what I think what messes
up that capacity is you have the

815
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.880
four teams. Four teams get so
many tickets as well, So there it

816
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:29.079
already takes about a thousand tickets off
the books right there, because all those

817
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:31.280
teams have to have so many tickets, right, Okay, So there could

818
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:35.840
be some so yeah, there could
be crazy. But we had we had

819
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:37.400
somebody call in a couple of weeks
ago, what's it going to take to

820
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.239
get people to the ballpark? Right
right? We talked about that. For

821
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:44.679
a while, I thought maybe five
six thousand, but well, I think

822
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:46.920
it's the end. The team likes
to win in the ninth inning, so

823
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:50.880
I think it's They're fun to watch. Those games are great. Yeah,

824
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:52.639
you know, coming down, they
got the drama the bottom of the ninth

825
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.400
guys, thanks for calling down.
We've got to go. We're taking a

826
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.719
break right now. Appreciate that.
Guys, Thank you to thank you,

827
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and we're gonna come back in the
second half of Juan gonna get to work

828
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here with some breaking news and then
we're gonna have Jake Fisher on the other side.