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The band Best Not Broken. And
we've got a couple of guys from the

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band here with us. We're going
to introduce Eric at the news desk.

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Welcome, Hello, thank you,
good to see him. Matt and Carlo

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on the couch, right on the
couch. How did you get the couch

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by the way, Well, there's
there's a story there, but I'm not

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sure we should go into that right
now. All right, all right?

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And and who are we missing?
And feel free to make up a ridiculous

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story about I suppose we could.
Probably that would be better than the truth.

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I think it's more it's more fun
if you come up with a story,

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not to put you on the spot. Well, we're missing Mark.

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Mark is our bass player. Yes, and I'm trying to remember whether he

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stubbed his toe or if he hurt
his wrist combination. I think he uh

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stubbed his toe while hurting his wrist. That's that's probably what I get a

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visual of that, right, which
has happened a couple of times with Mark,

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And oh my well, he's a
very dynamic individual and he moves around

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and jumps around a lot. Yeah, yeah, you know a lot of

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times lands on his toe. Well, that's that's understandable. Well, actually

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there's truth of that. I think
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Yeah it was, so that's not
all. Well, thoughts and prayers for

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Mark, thank you, well,
well welcome guys. By the way,

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Uh, now what do you got? So Mark is the bass player,

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So what do you guys each doing
the band? So I sing and play

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the guitar. Carlo is in drums. Yeah, all percussion. So you

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got like a it's like a power
trio basically exactly. But is there a

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fourth Is there a fourth individual who
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that sits in with us. Uh
most of the time, on and And

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Uh. Yeah, we have mystery
men that do all kinds of interesting things

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through the band. But on And
is the most regular. On And is

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our other guitar player. Gotcha?
Gotcha? So is on and Is?

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Uh there are only occasionally for live
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So it kind of depends on the
on the on the event, you

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know. I mean, sometimes we're
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smaller yeah, a smaller thing,
and sometimes it's a bigger thing, and

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so he does the bigger things.
I guess is the way we most simply

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describe it. Gotcha, Yeah,
gotcha. And how long has the band

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been around, because it looks like
you've got a fair amount of music online

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from what I saw, looks like
you've been at it for a while.

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We have, yes, a long
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room, I'm the young member.
But it's been for more than ten years.

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the point that we don't like our

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the music that we first wrote,
right right, for sure, we're trying

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to move on from that. But
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recordings were done in twenty twelve,
and the band, you know, it

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started before that and sort of evolved. We actually kind of started as a

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cover band playing clubs here in Manchester
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slowly started to work our own material
into into our shows and eventually started to

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record that material. And so twenty
twelve is when we started to start to

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push the original stuff. And so
that's I think officially when we became an

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original band, which it actually isn't
as long as I thought, But no,

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in shorter longer, I'm not sure
I know. But anyway, we've

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been doing it a while, I
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half kidding. I feel like the
COVID pandemic kind of created this weird time

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distortion thing where sometimes things happened longer
ago, they seem like they either didn't

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happen as long ago as they actually
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something. It's really it's really odd. And I run into that a lot,

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specifically with musicians when we're talking about
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ago did you record this or whatnot? And you know, I'll have a

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I had a band in here recently. It was like they had they had

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just recorded something, and uh like
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but one of the members was convinced
it was like twenty eighteen. It was.

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It's just interesting how that how that
works. But COVID changed the music

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business so much, I mean all
live entertainment obviously, because we weren't gathering

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and so it really changed it for
a lot of musicians. And you know,

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we're fortunate we have other ways of
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those that were fully dependent on,
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a really hard time. Absolutely absolutely, And it seems like there's been some

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lasting changes too, because you know, when the pandemic started to wrap up

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and things opened up, you know, all of a sudden, a lot

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of bands are playing out again because
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now, you know I again.
I have a lot of different musicians

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on the show, and different people
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bands I talked to now they're kind
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know, maybe one show a month. We're not really you know, gas

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is expensive, it's uh, you
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our living room and stream it,
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pulling back, which to me is
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in a way because so I don't
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just wanted to play out. I
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because being on stage was my favorite
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just wanted to that's all I want. I mean, I was in I

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was in a couple of bands where
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care if we were playing the same
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know, which, you know,
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didn't care. And but it's interesting
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back, and then there's others,
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playing every weekend and and really really
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but that that summer season we were
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we were playing a lot all over
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Virginia. I mean it was we
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were definitely gearing up for another very
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of bands musicians have not returned to
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as possible because I think we've all
discovered that there's just different ways of getting

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the music out there for people to
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you know, just we have to
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And those methods were proven during COVID
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one of these you know, hands
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of video things for one of our
one of our most popular songs, the

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name next Oh yeah, never next
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clever video the way we did it, and I think it'll it'll stand the

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test of time and one could look
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how they responded during COVID, or
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no, that's just a cool music
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got two different I think shapes to
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were going for, but it's how
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you know, the pandemic was awful
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know, we have to find these
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silver lining is the timing of it, because if if it had happened twenty

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years ago or even ten years earlier
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were fortunate that it happened at a
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and and it kind of forced people
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before. But some of what we
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these these uh streams online where they're
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playing together, you know, and
and for performances and and you know,

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in lieu of of touring and pretty
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like if it had happened, if
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it would have been it would have
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and uh, you know, it
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so hopefully we don't have to go
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baby, Yeah yeah, so you
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you're but you're you're playing out a
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necessarily as before the pandemic. Yeah, I mean, you know, we

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have different reasons. We have families
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of. But we you know,
like you, we love performing and I

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think best not broken really throughout our
history has been a live band. That's

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kind of what we are. And
yeah, unlike some other bands that uh,

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they can put out material and never
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that's kind of not how That's kind
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yeah, so we're doing. We're
doing as much as we can. I

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think, you know, we go
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of slowing down a little bit,
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But we love every time we step
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time? Sure? Usually is?
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a lot of bands are out touring
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supporting some major acts or performing on
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year too, right, we've kind
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from there. Yet. But you
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other thing for us is we're you
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was Covid wasn't great for us in
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we're in the process of putting a
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follow the you know, follow the
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a couple of weeks ago, which
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album, which is called if If
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be probably six songs on it,
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month. So there'll be some shows
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Yeah, we've got a fun one
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Smashing Pumpkins up at at Bank of
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that two weeks from now a couple
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thanks very good. It's funny because
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but our music probably back then was
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evolved in a different way, and
it'll be interesting to see how it,

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you know, how it goes.
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see Smashing Pumpkins, but we're gonna
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Have you guys opened for a lot
of a lot of big acts that

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have come through. We've had it. We've been very fortunate. Yeah,

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we've we've we've done some good ones. I'll tell you when we did this

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year. Which still sticks with me
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Guess who? The guess who?
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you know, the guess who Who's
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you cue up their collection and their
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defined a generation. I mean that's
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really honored to be a part of
that show that was over in Salisbury,

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mass That was a good show at
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venue. If you've been there.
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and to see a you know,
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every year we seem to get three
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which gives us an opportunity to promote
ourselves and gather new fans and uh,

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you know, sometimes we get a
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know, it's a it's a it's
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really get a sense of the fun
that we're having and uh and and the

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kind of music that we're making,
you know, and hopefully get somebody to

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you know, buy a few records
along the way and listen to some music.

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But it's been good. We've been
lucky. You guys have merch you

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bring the shows we do. Yeah, we just came out with a fabulous

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T shirt. You know why it's
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We've never done a T shirt with
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the feedback we got was what in
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shirt? But no, it's a
good group shot. It's a funny.

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and it was a cool shot.
We always liked that, you know,

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them, as we have, and
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bring one here today. But that's
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come back or mail. Yeah,
we will make sure you have Yeah,

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yeah, definitely cool. Cool,
Yeah, it's funny. I was just

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reading recently about how there was a
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music industry thought in terms of merchandise, that you couldn't you couldn't put a

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for a men's shirt, you know, for women it was different, but

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for men, you couldn't put pictures
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because dudes wouldn't wear a shirt with
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this was I had read something actually, Rolling Stone had something about this from

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way back, jeez, when I
was a kid. Actually, when Daryl

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Hall and John Oates their manager at
the time, Tommy Mottola, who went

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on to do other things. But
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in that camp was do we put
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men's shirts with Darryl and John's faces
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that, and and I guess even
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But then it's funny because last week
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if you know him. He's a
singer songwriter from the Sea Coast Cool.

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He was here and just coincidentally,
uh, he happened to have he was

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wearing a Michael McDonald's shirt with Michael
McDonald's face on it. And I didn't

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even realize it but at first,
and then the subject of Michael McDonald came

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up and I was like, oh, he's on your shirt. And then

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that made me think of you know, that whole that whole discussion of that

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debate about I had no idea that
ever happened. My my favorite album cover

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ever was the Police the I forget
the name of the album, but it

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was the Police. There three pictures
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going for that kind of a thing. Yeah, yeah, on this on

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this T shirt. We didn't quite
get it, but we made it our

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own. Yeah, it's a fun
it's not it's a more of a funny

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shirt, you know, kind of
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we're having fun and you know,
dressed in some sort of costume and uh

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yeah, I mean it's it's just
a funny kind of thing. But it

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is what you mentioned, merchandise.
It's the first time we've done something.

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Normally, it's like some graphic right
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the the EP cover or something.
But this time, yeah, we went

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a little, we went a little
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that now, how many guys.
We should do a survey to see how

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many guys actually bought the shirt,
right, I mean, I hope they

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do. Some have already so we
know it's working a yeah they have.

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Yeah, Yeah, I think hip
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of of of guys wearing shirts with
other guys faces. Sure, you know,

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because once hip hop started to get
really big, you know, it

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wasn't unusual to see somebody wearing a
you know, a Snoop Dogg shirt with

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Snoop Dogg's actual face. Son,
But if only we were as cool as

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Snoop Dogg's right, that guy.
Yeah, that guy. It's incredible that

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he never stops. He's he's he's
one of those few people who can be

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you know, he can still be
edgy with his music and whatnot and swearing

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and everything, but also have that
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I I'm not sure I can think
of another example of somebody quite like that

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who occupies that space the way that
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I'm not sure I can't either.
Yeah. No. Part of why I

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was asking about merch too, is
it seems like, you know, because

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we were talking about playing shows and
how expensive you know, it's more expensive

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than it used to be to travel
and so forth, And it seems like

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there's a push within the music industry
now too for everybody to really sell more

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merch because it's the one thing,
you know, as far as selling your

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music, you know, Spotify gives
you, uh you know, big money,

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big money. Yeah. Yeah,
the streaming services don't give you much,

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and and uh you know, and
touring, you know, a lot

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of your a lot of that money
ends up going into your gas tank can

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and paying for whatever else. And
so it seems like merch is because he

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can't download a T shirt, at
least not yet. I thought when three

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D printers came out that was going
to kill the merch thing, and then

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it just didn't happen. I'm not
sure why, but I guess it's a

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good thing it didn't happen, because
then that'd be another revenue stream download down

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down the toilet. Melanie and the
chat room says, uh, you know,

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Jay was just saying that he wished
he had a shirt with Matt's face

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on it. Well, actually,
now see my shirts. See I've got

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these Matt Connerton unleashed shirts. But
that's not really Oh yeah, that's cool,

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but that's like a representation of my
It's not my actual face. It's

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it's like me as an anime character, you know. Oh beautiful, yeah

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from here. Yeah. Brendan McCormick, he very very talented graphic artists who

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he designed the logo and then we
put it on the back of these shirts

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and uh, it's remember when he
showed it to me and he was like,

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he was a little bit cheapish about
it. He didn't know if I

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was gonna like it because it's a
little outside the box. And I was

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never in anime, but I knew
enough about it too. I recognize that

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there's an anime called Devil May Cry. And I only knew knew this because

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I used to work in a store
that's old DVDs. Okay, so we

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had an anime section. So when
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oh my god, I love it. And it's been around. I have

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to see Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, I don't know if the shirt,

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the shirt might be a little faded, but he's coming over for a

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firsthand look. Yeah, that's very
cool. Yeah yeah, And then Jenny

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had shirts made up and yeah,
and then that became the we might have

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to steal that concept the official log. Oh yeah, we'll go in anime.

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Yeah, it's it's very cool.
Yes, have had it? Oh.

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Mike from Queen City Cabinetry says,
my son has worn that T shirt,

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Matt, it's his absolute favorite.
Yes. Uh. And Mike was

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also asking about the songs I played. Who write do you guys all write

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together? Or who writes the song? Write everything? And then I submit

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it to Eric for approval. He
throws it in the trap and rewrites everything

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in a more perfect sense. The
truth is Carlo writes all of our bridges.

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No one is allowed to write a
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But yeah, so we we you
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bit different. I mean, you
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bass player as a songwriter, and
so we both bring in a lot of

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ideas and some of them are more
fully formed by the time they get to

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the band, and some of them
aren't, and some of them sort of

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come together when we're together. But
you know, it's amazing. A lot

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of people say, I mean,
we're joking around. A lot of people

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say drummers don't write, But it's
amazing what you know, when when Carlo

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lays down a pattern or rhythm,
what that can do to kind of change

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the dynamic of a song and move
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I you know, it's it's a
very collaborative process. Even though you know,

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we're the guys playing the guitars and
singing the lyrics and writing some of

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the stuff. It doesn't work unless
we do it together a lot of ways.

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Yeah, yeah, and the drums
sound incredible, by the way,

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where do you guys record because the
drums really because not everyone gets that right

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When recording producing drums, you know, but you can hear every you can

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hear everything, every tom, every
I mean, it just sounds so good.

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Yeah, it's true. We we've
been lucky to work with a couple

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of really good studios that really understand
your point of making the drums sound good.

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You know, I mean obviously pretty
biased towards the sound, but you

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know, when you're when you're building
a piece of music, it starts with

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the drums, right and it starts
with the drums and goes to the bass

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right away, because that's the that's
the foundation of it, you know.

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And so we've we've been lucky to
have a couple of real good producers work

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with us and recording engineers that understand
that and get a just actually they get

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a very good sound. It's like
the foundation of a house. I mean,

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truly, you can't have a you
can't have a good song the way

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we try to write songs unless the
drums sound good. We've we've made that

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mistake and we never want to make
it again. But uh, and I

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think today, you know, with
hip hop becoming such a big deal,

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you know, the last twenty years, and so many contemporary songs relying very

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heavily on the rhythm and the groove. It's like that you're hearing that and

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you're hearing the lyrics and the rest
of the stuff in some cases just sort

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of washed out in the middle.
Sure, yeah, it so people are

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looking for the rhythm, Yeah,
looking for the groove, and you gotta

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get it right. But we typically
well will record with Dave Minihan down at

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Wooly Mammoth Studios and Waltham Dave David. Oh, that's a name I've definitely

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heard. Yeah, Dave is a
you know, he's a Boston legend.

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Really, we've been very fortunate that
he's he's been willing to take us on

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and but you know, he when
Brad Whitford was not healthy, he was

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playing with Aerosmith and he's played with
the replacements. He's a guitar player too,

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okay with the replacements, and but
he's an amazing producer in his own

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right. He's a great musician.
Or fortunate now that he's kind of playing

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with us because she's actually on most
of the most of the songs out now.

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Yeah. In fact, he did
a lot of the background vocals for

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one of these tunes that's coming out
next month, which is which I'm excited

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to put out called That's the Way
She likes it, And it's kind of

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a song that draws on influences from
some of the eighties and nineties stuff,

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but real heavy background vocals which are
very cool. Yeah, looking forward to

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that one. But it starts with
the drums, it does, Yeah,

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it does. How did you get
to working with Minahan? What's his first

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name? Mike? Uh? He
moved to Waltham from the Boston area many

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many years ago. And I think
it happened because I was reading a story

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about his move to this new studio
and it was just about the time I

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was getting ready to record my first
batch of songs and I was looking for

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some help, and I sent them
my stuff and I said, what do

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you think, thinking that he would
say either nothing, I don't think much.

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But fortunately he said, hey,
actually that's pretty cool. On don't

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you come down and we'll talk a
little bit. And I did, and

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and that was the beginning. He
Uh. We did an EP that was

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again back in twenty and twelve.
It took us a while to record that.

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Carlin knows we take a longer record, especially when it by myself,

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but but it came not really well. The funny thing is I went in

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with a completely different vision of what
we ended up with, and at the

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end of the day, I don't
know whether it's good or bad. You

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know. I was at the time
actually going in more of a synthesizer,

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you know, type of direction,
and Dave sort of brought it back to

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more of an acoustic guitar based a
little bit more of a classic sound,

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which worked really well for those songs, and he was probably right. Yeah,

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But we've you know, we've managed
over the years to weave in some

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of the new stuff and keep some
of the you know, the more traditional

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organic sounds acoustic guitars and electric tars
and that kind of stuff. But there's

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a couple of songs on that first
album though, that continually get requested.

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It shows so, I mean,
it's funny we've played them. It's an

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older piece, but it seems like
they're the ones, you know, people

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want to hear. Yeah, those
that have been around for a while,

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they remember some of those tunes.
Pretty Good Day is the one that that

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stands out to me that was on
the first album that people tend to like,

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but we like the new stuff too. Yeah, yeah, Now,

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are you guys from Boston or are
you we are from the stuff? We're

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from the general area. We've sort
of bounced back and forth between Boston and

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Southern New Hampshire. The band collectively, we've are members have sort of zigzagged

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around the area. So we kind
of consider ourselves a greater Boston band.

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But right now we've got some roots
in southern New Hampshire and but the area

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has been very good to us.
We've you know, we've kind of started

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in Manchester and sort of grew from
there. You know, we have regular

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stuff we do now up in Burlington
and and we've you know, as Carlos

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said, we get down as far
as Virginia, New York has been a

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more regular thing. We haven't been
down there in a while because Philly we

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haven't had stuff to promote, but
I think probably that's coming up in the

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not too just in future. Cool
cool, very good. Well, Actually,

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why don't we, uh well take
a break and play another track here?

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Uh let's see you sent me,
Oh it didn't one of the things.

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You didn't send me this one,
but you said there's a new single

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that came out recently I did.
It's called I Don't Belong, and I

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thought I sent it to Oh you
did send me that? Okay, No,

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you did. I'm sorry. I
don't know why I was for some

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reason I thought you had said something
else. But my brain is mush sometimes.

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I probably have a our often is
too. We do some of our

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best work when our brain is mush. Here we go, Here we go.

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I got it, Okay, here
it is. Yeah. I like

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actually, yeah, I like this
one a lot too. This is really

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good. So let's do this.
We'll we'll give this a listen. If

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you're just joining us. We've got
two of the guys, Eric and Carlo

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from the band Best Not Broken,
are here with us live in studio and

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we've been talking and we're gonna listen
to another track here. So this is

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called I Don't Belong. And this
is the newest single just within the last

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couple of weeks. Yeah, out
two weeks here, two and a half

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weeks ago. Again excellent, excellent, All right, check this out I

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Don't Belong from Best Not Broken.
I'm walking in a home roomember, I've

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got my jeans pig all done with
a hairspray. We've been wucking new way

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coopus and a fresh shap. Wanna
be a rock star preventing my new car

409
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,440
hot he's in the backyard back I
got nothing so far? Can I get

410
00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:14,640
up? Can I get up?
Can I get up? Can I get

411
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:23,319
up? Can I get up?
I don't everybody you know. I don't

412
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:40,519
say as you go. I don't
get her real job. Interviewed with each

413
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:42,240
jar, Ask me what I wanna
say. I don't wanna keep my hair

414
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:47,039
along for me and I high rise
with you with some rich guys starting with

415
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,319
the deep swipe. Now I'm making
a French prize. I'm not a quick

416
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,000
lurn. Maybe it's the side of
It's like down if you want to know

417
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,680
about at least I made some heads
turn. Can I get up? Can

418
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:02,440
I get up? Can I get
up? Can I get up? I

419
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:34,200
don't want everybody though, I don't
get stay as you go. I don't

420
00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:41,000
get so much. I don't know
why. And you belong some place that

421
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:48,880
you just can't time. When you
ask foot ten much, you just got

422
00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:59,319
nine hair? Everything is fine,
just that much. Can I get up?

423
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:03,559
Can I get up? Can I
get up? Can I get up?

424
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,839
Can I get up? Can I
get up? Can I get up

425
00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:59,720
below and joining us here live in
studio, we have Eric and Carlo from

426
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,480
The and Best Not Broken, and
guys, that's a very very catchy I

427
00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:07,960
caught myself singing along to it,
so that's uh, that probably happened.

428
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,680
I would imagine when you play that
at shows, you probably get get people

429
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,079
singing along, right, it does. It gets a real good response,

430
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:18,119
singing, clapping, I think,
uh, I think the video actually,

431
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:23,160
I think people that see the video
might be amused because we released a video

432
00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:29,240
at the same time, and uh, it's uh, it's one of our

433
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:34,279
We're very proud of it because we
uh we look like absolute before it was

434
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:41,359
absolutely ridiculous, fully ridiculous, but
we sort of captured the essence of the

435
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,119
song. I think. Yeah,
And and it happened fast. I was

436
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,240
shocked we were to pull together.
But we would encourage your listeners if they

437
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,839
liked that tune to check out the
video for I Don't Belong on YouTube.

438
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,960
It's there and you get a good
laugh there and waiting for you, very

439
00:28:56,039 --> 00:29:00,200
good, very good. Yeah,
it's funny. That's another subject that's come

440
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:03,279
up a lot on the show lately
as videos because there's some people I don't

441
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:04,799
know if you guys run into this
at all. This there's some people who

442
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:11,359
have this perception that music videos are
and a dead art form because you know,

443
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:14,559
MTV hasn't played videos in decades,
and it's like it's funny, but

444
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,880
I run into people who don't seem
to realize that actually, because of YouTube,

445
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:22,279
there's more music videos being made than
ever. Oh yeah, Like like

446
00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:25,720
when Beyonce puts out a new album, for example, you know she's got

447
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:26,960
the money to do it. When
she puts out a new album, every

448
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:30,480
single song on the album has a
video, right, It's it's it's actually

449
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:33,640
more than ever. People want to
see that multi media entertainment. You know,

450
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,559
they want to they want to get
a bigger picture of what certainly want

451
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:40,839
to see the artists. You know, they're hoping to see the artists in

452
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:48,240
the in the video. And it
just provides a more multidimensional musical experience as

453
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,920
opposed to just you know, listen
to music. I mean, and I

454
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,279
think you might capture the interest a
little more, Like people will listen to

455
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:59,160
the entire song as opposed to when
you're streaming. That's a good you know

456
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,759
they're getting get minute or so and
like all right, moving to the next

457
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,480
one, moving the next one,
the next one, click click click,

458
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,000
click click. But a video,
you're probably gonna watch the whole thing.

459
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,079
It's a it's an interesting phenomenon.
I mean, as a musician, now,

460
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,599
you know that if you don't put
a video out with a song,

461
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:17,000
you're missing listeners or viewers. You're
missing missing people that might otherwise see it.

462
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,799
Right. But it's also interesting because
it truly changes the dynamic of how

463
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,240
people experience a song, right because
in the old days, when there was

464
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:26,559
no video, or now when there's
no video, you know, you you

465
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,599
come up with your own images,
right, Yeah, but you're forced to

466
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,400
follow the images that are put out
in this video, which I think sometimes

467
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,000
is great and sometimes not. But
but it's a new way of experience it

468
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:40,279
for sure. Yeah. It's funny
though, it's like we're time traveling in

469
00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:44,920
a way, because this is the
same conversation that people had when on shows

470
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,160
like this when MTV first one on
the air. Yeah, right, and

471
00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:49,640
artists would talk about, yeah,
you know now you're you know, you're

472
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,920
assigning these images to the video,
which to the song rather which might be

473
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,440
a good thing or might not.
And you know, and I still want

474
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,720
to be on MTV? Can we
still do that? Yeah? I want

475
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:03,880
my MTV too, was like a
there must be a there must still be

476
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:07,240
videos on there somewhere right there.
I'm sure there must be like a like

477
00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:11,920
a twenty minute video show or something. But yeah, reality television just completely

478
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,480
took over and write and then I
guess in the nineties, right, I

479
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,799
think it's been that long. Yep. Yeah, wow, Yeah, we

480
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:21,960
haven't done our own reality show yet. We're gonna leave them. How many

481
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:23,359
videos have you guys? Have you
guys shot? What do you think?

482
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:30,720
That's a good question, but there's
enough to keep you busy. I would

483
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:36,720
say probably ten, Yeah, something
like that, maybe maybe a little more.

484
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,720
Some are more involved than others.
Yeah, I know. The first

485
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,599
one that I participated in was for
Won't Stop Loving You, which was a

486
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:55,240
very elaborate production and a very moving
video. I would say that was the

487
00:31:55,319 --> 00:32:00,000
most emotional video that we've made.
And if you put a bunch of people

488
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,640
in a room, I guarantee you
a bunch of them are going to be

489
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,599
crying by the time they get to
the end of that video. It's very,

490
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,319
very touching and it's a great song. Uh, we think so but

491
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:13,160
are it's another one. It's a
fan favorite. Yeah, you know,

492
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,559
it's from an earlier record and they
seem to love that song, so we

493
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:23,720
like playing it. But something our
videos ranged from serious to absolute insanity.

494
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,359
Yeah, and maybe that's a good
thing. I don't know. I hope,

495
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,799
so, yeah, I hope,
so I hope. So now the

496
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,039
videos, do you do you have
someone you work with on those? Or

497
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:36,079
do you do them? You're because
we do? Okay, because I was

498
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:37,000
gonna say, we live in an
era where really you can you can do

499
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:40,400
it all yourself. It's pretty remarkable
you can if you're if you're that talented,

500
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,480
you know, Yeah, we're We're
just not that. Uh No,

501
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,319
we have helpers. Yeah, helpers
are necessary for us. Do you work

502
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,440
with the same people on each Have
you worked with the same people on each

503
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,440
video? Or is there our production
company we have? Yeah, yeah,

504
00:32:55,519 --> 00:33:00,920
we've uh there's a company called one
oh six Studios that Boston that we've been

505
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,839
using recently. Travis Gray has been
the lead guy for us, and that's

506
00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:07,640
gone very well. We've used other
people in the past, but Travis has

507
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:13,119
been doing good work for us lately. Excellent, excellent, And what are

508
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,160
the live shows like do you guys, do you have any you do any

509
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,039
kind of elaborate stage show or anything, or do you do you just play

510
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,680
or any kind of theatrics or do
you save that for the videos? Well,

511
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,279
you know, I mean, so
we have we do a range of

512
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,519
shows, you know, I mean
we are we are primarily an original band,

513
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:36,880
but we do shows where we'll mix
covers into into our shows. Some

514
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,599
of them are more cover oriented,
but really the focus of what we do

515
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:45,440
is is original material. But the
reason I say that is because you know,

516
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:47,000
some of these shows tend to be
a little more grueling, like three

517
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:52,160
hours long or four hours long,
and the dynamic is a little bit different

518
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,559
than a short and sweet, action
packed, true best not broken original show.

519
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,799
But we one of the things we
try to do is really have great

520
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,279
energy when we put on a show, and we try and go out and

521
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,440
leave it all on the stage.
We're all athletes, and probably because we're

522
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,880
we wish that we could still be
as competitive as we once were. We

523
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,039
had the only place we can do
it is on the stage, and so

524
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:17,639
we occasionally stub our toes and fall
up of things. But we tried to

525
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:22,559
do lots of jumping but so,
yeah, it's a we hope that it's

526
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:25,719
an engaging and action packed show.
It should be that. Yeah, I

527
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,119
can tell you we I'm reminded of
a story. Maybe we should we should

528
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:35,400
share of we we well, I
don't know what to tell so I don't

529
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,719
know whether we should share or not. We we'll find out together. It

530
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:43,039
was it was a live constiant We
didn't at the two below below music in

531
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:49,679
Derry and it was outdoors during the
period where they were doing outdoor shows if

532
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,360
you remember that, which was very
clever. Quite frankly, anyway, we

533
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:57,639
we headlined a show and and uh
As Zeric said, it's a it's an

534
00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:00,840
action packed show. I mean,
the drummer just has to sit there most

535
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,480
of the time, but the rest
of the guys were moving around quite a

536
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:08,639
bit on stage and we had a
choreographed piece of the show. Remember where

537
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:13,400
we were doing some things. And
the point of this story is it was

538
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,480
about one hundred and fifty degrees out
and the sun was hitting that stage and

539
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:22,159
you know, you're you're driven by
the music and the fan interact. It

540
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,639
was a sold out show, so
a lot of people and you're feeding off

541
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,519
that energy. But at some point, it's just not enough. It was

542
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:34,719
so hot out, you know,
I think we were all feeling a little

543
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,400
bit faint. And there's a there's
a particular thing. You'll have to come

544
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,440
to one of our shows. This
particular thing we do at the end where

545
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:46,480
this guy runs around it just does
something absolutely crazy, and it was great.

546
00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:49,880
You know, we're watching the whole
things happen and people were plotting,

547
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,320
blah blah blah blah, and that's
the end of the show. Encore is

548
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,199
over and we got to the back, you remember, and he was he

549
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,880
was white as a sheet. I
thought I literally thought he was going to

550
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,480
pass out because he was so active
and it was so hot out. Yeah,

551
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,239
I can't hydrate on stage really,
so you know, you're just giving

552
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,079
it all. And uh, that
was quite a quite a performance, I

553
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:14,760
would say that was a yeah.
So I tried to get a little exercise

554
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,079
and this this is one of those
times where I almost didn't make it back

555
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:20,880
to the stage. Wow, I
almost. And we've had a couple of

556
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,119
those lately. In fact, we
were down in Salisbury a few weeks ago

557
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,639
and I almost didn't make it back
to the stage, which would have been

558
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,000
terrible because you guys would have had
to clean up up by yourself. Yeah,

559
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,519
somehow I feel like that was part
of the plan. Might have but

560
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,000
it might have been. I was
in the big I was in the big

561
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:43,920
band van Wow. Well, you
know, I always say rock and roll

562
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,119
should be sweaty. But but you
don't want you know, heat stroke or

563
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:50,239
anything like that either. No,
definitely try to keep it as safe as

564
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,000
we can. I will tell you
our our our fabulous bass player who couldn't

565
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:00,519
make it today with his broken toe, uh, carries a fan with him

566
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:04,239
every show. He has a fan
set up because I think he sweats the

567
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,440
most of all of us. Oh
my god, and he and this fan

568
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,239
is just always running. He doesn't. Well, actually, the truth is

569
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,719
there we have levels of fan.
I mean he has this standard fan.

570
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,119
Yeah, but then we have a
super hot show, we upgrade to the

571
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:17,639
big fan and then we can actually
double fan. If we have to double

572
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:22,360
fan, I would say that the
worst. So the one time when Mark

573
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:25,920
was sweating so much and there's nothing
a fan could possibly do. The video

574
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:29,800
that we shot for the song Kids, which I think you played earlier,

575
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:35,000
had Mark at the beginning in a
kangaroo outfit and at the end, he

576
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:37,400
had to go because we ran out
of time, and so I briefly had

577
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,119
to play the kangaroo. And I
put on the kangaroo outfit, and I

578
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:45,800
couldn't feel the outfit because it was
mush. It was actually it was mush.

579
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,599
It was sweating, probably the most
disgusting thing I've ever felt in my

580
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:52,079
life. And so I no longer, I no longer even will look at

581
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:58,000
kangaroos. But does it make you
feel closer to him? I try to

582
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:02,280
stay further away in his sweat Mark, If you're listening, I'm I'm actually

583
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,800
currently trying to get further away from
you. Wow, that's funny. Eric,

584
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,920
You ever do any radio or voiceover
work or anything? Never? I'm

585
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,559
sure I'm not the only one who's
ever asked you that. I can't be

586
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:16,599
the first one to ever ask you
that it's possible you are. I'm no,

587
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,880
I've never done it. You've got
because you've got the voice, Carlo

588
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,400
doesn't any of the you've got the
voice for radio. Yes, you think

589
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,239
you've got one of those voices.
I'm actually jealous of because I'm very you

590
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,880
know, I'm able to evaluate myself
pretty honestly. I think I know I

591
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,599
have a good radio voice, but
you have a great radio voice. I've

592
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:36,400
never you've never done a podcast or
anything. I've never done a podcast.

593
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:43,599
No, no car commercial commercial that
would be that would be fun for real,

594
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,199
definitely to real. Well we need
a hit. Maybe we can find

595
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:52,199
a hit in the auto commercial?
Yeah, car commercial jingle? Can you

596
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:58,039
can you auto tune in radio?
Can you live auto tuned? No?

597
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,880
I just I just imagine you narrate? You know you could narrate the I've

598
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,639
never tried it. I mean,
I you know, I read. I

599
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,519
read books for people. Do Yeah, I do mostly my kids makes sense.

600
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,199
They don't tell. They don't tell
you they love your voice. They've

601
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,920
never said that. They're usually mad
at me because it's bedtime and it's like

602
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,480
dad, what are you doing?
Right right, I'll put us to bed.

603
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,480
No, they're used to it.
You see your voice. Jay Fed

604
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:27,119
in the chat says, do you
play birthday parties? I think we have

605
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,960
done parties? Well remember the time
I jumped out of that cake? Oh

606
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:35,920
I can't remember that. Oh we
do. We do private events occasionally.

607
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,360
Most of what we do is in
support of our music, but we do

608
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,599
private events occasionally. Yep. So
he's been asking, uh, he's been

609
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:45,199
looking for someone to play his wife's
birthday party, Melanie's birthday party. I

610
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:49,559
believe it's in September now. The
thing is, I should tell you though,

611
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:52,239
in case you do get you take
a commission. I know, no,

612
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,840
no, no, it's not that. Uh, he might try to

613
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,199
get you to commit to, uh, if you're gonna go up there to

614
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,719
commit to an ice bath. Oh, So I thought I should mention that,

615
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,039
just to kind of warn you that
that might be part of the deal.

616
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,199
Okay, And I don't know.
Personally I wouldn't do it. I

617
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:12,119
you know, hypothermia things like that. Apparently there are health benefits, but

618
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,679
I'm just worried about freezing to death. So I personally wouldn't do it,

619
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,840
but I think I should warn you
guys. Yeah, yeah, it's something

620
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,400
he does, and he he invites
people into the ice bath apparently, so

621
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,519
just something to keep in mind,
I Beth, Yeah, I mean,

622
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,000
you know it could come to that, so just so you know, we'll

623
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:32,800
have to get our measure involved.
Definitely. There you go. By the

624
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,800
way, Miriam Banisha and the chat
Room says like the Harmony, referring to

625
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,440
the song that we played there the
single thank You. Yeah, well do

626
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,159
you got so the vocals? Do
you guys all sing or how does that

627
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,360
work? I definitely don't, you
know? He know he's he's being modesty,

628
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,079
is actually saying. In fact,
we've had some gigs where he'll he'll

629
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:57,079
take the lead and do some crazy
stuff. But truth be told, the

630
00:40:57,079 --> 00:41:00,039
harmonies are actually a very important part
of our sound. And uh, Mark

631
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:05,039
and I really enjoy writing harmonies and
singing harmonies, and that's something we focus

632
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,199
on and it's part of most of
the songs that you hear, Yeah from

633
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,519
us, No, I notice that, But car Carlo, you sing live

634
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,800
with the guys I assume are very
seldom. Oh really, okay, I've

635
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:16,840
got a lot of work to do. I'm very busy. Back then,

636
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,280
he is a busy guy. Yeah, yeah, well that's the thing.

637
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,440
I had a band on recently with
a singing drummer where the drummer did the

638
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:28,239
lead vocals. Yes, and that's
something you very rarely see. But it's

639
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,559
such a physical instrument, so to
have to play drums and sing, even

640
00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:35,280
just doing backing vocals, it must
be it's gotta be hard to do it.

641
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,119
I think it would be tough.
I don't know, honestly, I

642
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:40,119
don't know how they do it.
You know, they they sing a lot.

643
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,239
Yeah, and uh, I don't
think I could do it really,

644
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,280
Now you can do it number one. I don't think I can sing well.

645
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,239
And uh. But it's a lot
of work, do you know,

646
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,760
to keep that, keep focused on
that, and just have the the musician

647
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,360
stuff just kind of happen automatically so
you can focus on the singings. Yeah,

648
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,920
it's quite a bit of work.
It's impressive. Yeah, absolutely,

649
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,119
they're quite talented, those two.
Yeah. On and I just sit back

650
00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:07,559
and play music. We had a
show actually it was actually at Blue Ocean

651
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:12,320
Music Hall, where we featured Carlo
and On and Uh singing. That's right,

652
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,159
we did. Who is that?
I think that might have been when

653
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:15,559
we were with the Gym Blossoms Blossoms, I think it was. Yeah,

654
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,599
And and actually that was the last
show where we ever allowed them to sing

655
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,400
publicly together. Imagine that really.
Yeah, so that should tell you something

656
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:29,440
there. You guys played with the
Gym Blossoms. Huh we did those guys.

657
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,159
Yeah, I can see that.
I can see that being a good

658
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:36,480
Yeah. But I guess too though, with with your sound. I mean,

659
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:38,639
there's probably a lot of different bands
you fit well with. I would

660
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,320
think you know your your sound.
It's it's very accessible, very radio friendly,

661
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,440
but also this you know, a
mix of influences in there. You

662
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:51,480
know, the Sawing Kids is,
like I said, I opened with that

663
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:53,800
today. That's so catchy. But
but it seems like everything is, you

664
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,559
know, it's very sort of you
know, you've got those singalong choruses that

665
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,280
you know, really hook people in. And uh, who can you tell

666
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,760
me who's Who's a band that you've
Are there any bands that you've opened for

667
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,679
that we're kind of maybe you went
into it thinking I don't know if we

668
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,440
fit has Has there been any kind
of an odd match that you've had with

669
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:19,079
a band that you've opened for?
Well, yes, I would say so.

670
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,960
So. Uh. Actually, I
think Smashing Pumpkins will be interesting because

671
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,280
the more I listen to them and
the more yeah, I realized that they're

672
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,039
much heavier though, yea, than
really we are now. You know,

673
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:32,400
back in the day, we were
writing more rock oriented stuff and now I

674
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:37,119
kind of consider our stuff sort of
indie pop yea, And so it's veering

675
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:38,159
away from that. So it'll be
interesting to see how that goes. But

676
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:42,679
you know, uh, you know, we used to occasionally play Bike Week

677
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,840
and I was we've never been a
biker band, right, and people have

678
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,559
there thinking they're going to throw us
out of here, and actually there are

679
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:51,400
a lot of people that dug our
stuff. So I I've learned you can't

680
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,199
you can't make that judgment going into
it. But probably the other one that

681
00:43:54,559 --> 00:44:00,039
was a weird fit was Jason Derulo. Oh no kid. Yeah, it

682
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:01,880
was a long time ago. Yeah, but uh yeah, we were asked

683
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,840
to come play with with him and
it was just as he was, like,

684
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,599
you know, at his prime,
and it was weird, but it

685
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:12,239
sort of was fun. It sort
of went okay. I can see it

686
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,800
working, though, can you.
Yeah, Because I'm trying to think now,

687
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,880
I'm drawn a blank. What was
his really big big hit. I

688
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,840
don't even remember because I don't know. He had more than one single that

689
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,760
did well, but there was one
that was huge and I can't remember.

690
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,639
I can't remember what it was now
either that he had a short shelf life.

691
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:32,480
I think he was he had come
and gone pretty quick, did But

692
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,679
but yeah, but I can see
that working, you know, because again,

693
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,519
your sound is so accessible that you
know. Obviously a lot of different

694
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:45,199
you know, different kinds of people
are gonna like it. Is that something

695
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,239
you do consciously like in terms of
writing and recording the music? Is it?

696
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,639
Do you consciously try to make songs
that you know with with good hooks

697
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:58,320
and and big, you know,
sort of sing along choruses. I think

698
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,519
that, you know, every songwriter
probably gravitates to something. There's something that

699
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:07,400
you know, as you're noodling around
on your guitar or humming melodies or whatever

700
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,039
it may be, there's something that
catches you about it. Yeah, And

701
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:14,159
I find for me it's uh,
you know, I think I grew up

702
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:19,719
listening to pop radio and uh,
you know, from all eras. I

703
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,159
enjoyed all of it, and so
I think those those melodies stick with me,

704
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,159
and those are the things, you
know, I find I won't write

705
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:29,599
a song unless I feel like there's
a catchy melody that's going to draw you

706
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:31,960
in somewhere in the song, and
so right, that's usually the basis of

707
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,880
it. Then you try to build
around it. So I guess in that

708
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,800
sense it is intentional. Yeah,
yeah, well we are, we are

709
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,519
approaching the end of the show.
I do want to get one more,

710
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,679
one more song and at the end. But guys, this has been wonderful.

711
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,679
Thank you both so much. Thanks
for having much Absolutely appreciate absolutely.

712
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,199
And what do you want to make
sure our our listeners know about where to

713
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:59,639
find you online? Social media anything, website? We are? We are

714
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:02,920
every where. Uh. We get
that question sometimes, you know, where

715
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,960
can I find your music? And
I think my answers, where where can't

716
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:12,440
you? I mean it should be
We're literally on every streaming platform. We're

717
00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:17,559
on YouTube with the videos, We've
got our website best not Broken Dogs.

718
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:22,400
That's kind of headquarters. I'm trying
to think of what else, all the

719
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,639
basic stuff. I mean, you
know, we're probably most actives on Instagram

720
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,760
and Facebook and that kind of stuff. And and we keep updates on hit

721
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,679
us up on Instagram. You know, we'd love to, you know,

722
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,199
have somebody you know make a comment. We uh. We like responding and

723
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,320
interacting with our fans, you know, it's it's great fun for us,

724
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,199
you know. And if you've seen
us at a show, you want to

725
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:40,719
see us at a show, you
know, give us a little a little

726
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,800
shout out and we'll let you know
what's going on. Absolutely, and do

727
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,079
you do you have any shows coming
up this weekend that you want to plug.

728
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,559
We're in in Vermont this weekend,
right, yeah, yeah, we're

729
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:55,119
playing up in Burlington, Vermont place
called Red Square. It's an outdoor show.

730
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,480
Uh, get there early because it
fills up fast, especially if the

731
00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:05,559
weather is nice. I should saying
doomsday. Yeah, but it hasn't rained

732
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:08,119
much this summer, so we should
be Okay. That's why Carlo is wearing

733
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:10,800
his red shorts. He has these
on all weeks, same part. Yeah,

734
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,000
he can't take him off until the
show. That's our deal. Oh

735
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:21,159
yeah, alrighty well that's that's that's
your business. Oh Matt, you have

736
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,480
the close of that right sure,
absolutely, guys, thank you again so

737
00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:29,800
much. Mike from my Queen City
Cabinetry says, awesome guests today, Matt,

738
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,480
thank you. Yeah, guys,
thank you so much. And we

739
00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:37,880
will end with this track. This
is called low Lights. This is yeah,

740
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,920
this is kind of a little a
little darker. Yeah, it's a

741
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,719
different it's a different tune. This
is a Mark tune. This is one

742
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,199
of the one of the new singles
that's coming out on our new EP.

743
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:50,480
Very good. Oh when is that
out? By the way, the EP

744
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,840
well, it was supposed to be
soon, and it's been pushed back a

745
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,519
little bit. I would expect it
shortly after Labor Day, so check on

746
00:47:55,599 --> 00:48:00,239
our social media. It won't be
long. Excellent, excellent, all right,

747
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,519
So we're gonna end with this.
This is thanks again, guys,

748
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:06,639
and this is low lights from the
band Best not Broken. Check this out.

749
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:34,519
I am your skin. You drink
a little moment. This is such

750
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:45,119
a little child. What are you
saying that you're off the teeth in saying

751
00:48:45,199 --> 00:49:02,960
that you in fine? Now love
the truth in the night in the meantime,

752
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:08,400
in this down show, and then
that I think about you and the

753
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:32,760
light doesn't feel right. Put another
one. Let's gets born? Who and

754
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:39,400
then it empties out? You want
another? Now? A lot of people

755
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:45,760
don't do the same with that shot. Then I like you. If I

756
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:51,079
see my little shop here, not
what canna tell you? One? Lets

757
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:55,559
gets gone in the nighttime, if
mail's night, let it get a little

758
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:05,880
crazy and sun in the nighttime,
in the lower light, in the meantime,

759
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:10,320
in the stun chack I a man, I think in abocha in the

760
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:20,480
lower light doesn't feel right in the
nighttime. If it feels right, let

761
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:24,960
it get a little crazy inside in
the nighttime, in the lower light,

762
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:36,079
cool in the mean time, feeling
the stal chaving think is about in the

763
00:50:36,199 --> 00:51:30,239
lower light doesn't feel right. It
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764
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:37,679
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