WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:54.399 You welcome, welcome all this day today, Thursday, June 27th, year 2 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:58.359 two thousand twenty- four. Welcome, Dr Amel Hello. How about good 3 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:03.640 night, nice to be here a pleasure welcome to Frad Baby Hello. Girls 4 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:07.439 is Thursday. I can' t believe why many Thursdays, but it' 5 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:15.079 s already a week a bit heavy for some. It rained the other day 6 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:17.879 that I didn' t sleep I read that many couldn' t sleep either. 7 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:21.799 I mean, it' s been a little tired for some of us 8 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:23.359 for a week. But welcome all those who are already connected here the YouTube 9 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:26.680 channel, those who are members of the subscribers channel, those who are passing 10 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:33.640 through and all who are on podcast platforms. Thanks for being here. Welcome 11 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:40.480 to these rainy days. As he says, happy rainy days. We have 12 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:42.280 some things to talk about. Not to see. Distinguished, plate me, 13 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:46.439 we' ve got, we' ve got look. We' re going 14 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:52.640 to talk about Belinda and when asked about Nodal and Angel eagle of clarity that 15 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.640 wins a lawsuit from a paparazzo from an actor who also seeks work, like 16 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:00.719 Sergio Kleiner, as we told him yesterday from Christian Chávez. And you know 17 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:06.120 that in the end, the title of this program is the enemy at home. 18 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:15.560 But there are two women who, in parallel, are sharing their tragedies 19 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:22.520 with the respective couples at home, and they are Abre Zapata and Laura Viñati. 20 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:24.280 But, right now, we' re going to talk and I think 21 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:30.680 what happened with Auria Zapata changes our perception of this a little bit, of 22 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:35.000 all this that' s happening. Not what it seems to them that we 23 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:44.639 start with Armando Araiza, which is this actor that we are saying that he 24 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:51.120 wants work, yes, look, it' s funny, not that you 25 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:58.680 showed us that you already put a publication in where Armando Araiza says and it 26 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:05.240 makes good his shoot and says I have 180 films filmed that are a lot 27 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:07.280 fifty years of artistic career, cinema, theater, you see digital content. 28 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:12.919 I look like a great star actor. That' s him. They remember 29 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:15.000 that he had wanted to be given the role of Sergio Andrade in the Carla 30 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:19.960 Estrada Ahá series. And no, because they didn' t give it to 31 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:22.719 him, they gave it to Jorge Posa Caricaturesco, but they gave it to 32 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:28.639 another doctor. This was no longer the case for him, nor would the 33 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:31.039 great work have been the truth. But, well, he wants to work, 34 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:36.319 well, the money was needed, but neither was the big loss. 35 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:39.319 Lizan a favor, they did her a favor, well yes, but you 36 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:42.039 know what if not the truth, it wasn' t the big show. 37 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:45.520 It wasn' t a great series for Gloria Trevi. But when you don 38 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:47.680 ' t have a job, when you' re an actor and you' 39 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:53.080 re a project, well, listen, whatever you get is really lame, 40 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:53.520 not clear, and besides, I' m sorry. I think he didn 41 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:57.599 ' t expect me to have so much criticism, let alone not go, 42 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:04.199 with the best of the years to make a character, because he does saylus 43 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:10.400 Maria Moreno, fifty years of trajectory and forty of rest. Well, thanks 44 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.439 to that, I don' t know, because he has done things now, 45 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:15.639 but yes, he has a good time, that we don' t 46 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:19.079 see him in productions, not in important productions, because to have 180 films 47 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:21.480 there are a lot of them. So I guess he had a very active, 48 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:26.800 very productive stage, exactly and lately, if we haven' t seen 49 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:30.240 him, but he' s been productive, because it' s a lot, 50 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:32.959 not that work of 180 80 movies, because if it' s a 51 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:35.120 noche, if it' s a lanita, then I hope I get a 52 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:36.879 job, the truth. Or all the actors who are looking for work, 53 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:41.600 looking for them, recycling them. I think everyone wants to work and everyone 54 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:46.279 wants their profession, their passion and of course everyone wants a space and I 55 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:50.680 hope they get it soon by arming araisa the truth, yes, because it 56 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:56.920 happens what you said yesterday or antier I remember that useful they are calling them 57 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:59.759 not all the time they are notice. I just saw a photograph of this 58 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:02.879 new production of the Count, which is based on the Count of Montecristo and 59 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:06.279 again, because it is Fernando Colunga, who has just come out in the 60 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:14.480 sadly remembered evil version. Not here I say. I get the feeling that 61 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:18.480 that just happened and now he' s starring the count again. So, 62 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:21.519 yes, it is true that they take the same ones, but it also 63 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.680 seems to me that the level of o, the volume of production in Mexico, 64 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:30.759 because yes, it has decreased greatly on television, that is, I 65 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:32.839 don' t know if already. Apparently TV Esteka was going to do it 66 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:39.079 again ah already announced captive something like that is called captive something like that, 67 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:44.160 but remember us when they had this booming time. Yeah, they had, 68 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:48.319 like Televisa, a soap opera bar or they had a soap opera bar. 69 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:54.439 During the form I had the juvenile, a teat or chinese bee, yes, 70 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:58.600 no, and then they had the superstellar. In addition, these unitary 71 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:03.399 programs, where I have just now seen that they just announced that they will 72 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:06.800 premiere new chapters of what we silence women, because they had been repeating and 73 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:13.319 repeating. But yeah, what we keep quiet is Aztec television. Yeah, 74 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:15.040 television or sorry, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 75 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:19.680 yeah, yeah, I' m sorry and I' m lost I 76 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:26.680 ' m sorry Uh- huh Because I was saying that on Aztec television, 77 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:28.560 too, it was also on soap operas at some point, like Televisa, 78 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:29.319 that they had their whole soap opera afternoon as well. They also came to 79 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:32.079 have Azteca television and stopped doing so. And now it looks like they' 80 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:38.120 re coming back and they' re also recording new chapters of what we women 81 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.040 find. But there' s not so much production and then the same actors 82 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:43.879 all the time, because that' s more complicit is that, besides, 83 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:46.800 it' s always been like history, that the producers marry you with their 84 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:50.519 team. Not then does the same producer always use the same protagonist thirty times 85 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:57.160 and the same team. And then, before, well, there were five 86 00:06:57.199 --> 00:06:59.439 productions of the year, now there are two. And if they' re 87 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.279 repeating it, because I already do, it' s terriba hears, but 88 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:06.120 exactly what Alessandra Lombardi says was what I was thinking as they didn' t 89 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:09.879 happen in the novels. He dedicated himself a lot of arming araiza to the 90 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:11.920 video homes. So yes, yes, it' s 180, but it 91 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.360 ' s video homes and it' s not the same because you' re 92 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:15.879 not in force, that is, people don' t see you. Not 93 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.480 everyone sees you when it' s a jun video they see you in the 94 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:23.560 novels that are on open television, that are passed now, they are passed 95 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:28.000 on Bigs and then they pass other countries and sell less than an hour, 96 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:31.319 minus two hours. And, well, a lot, more exposure And video 97 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:33.720 games, because they do give you food, but they don' t give 98 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:38.519 you exposure. And what happens with respect to Fernando Colunga, I understand that 99 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:41.519 he is one of the people that sells the most, that is a safe 100 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:45.120 box office, that has a good audience, that has a lot of audience, 101 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.360 that says if Fernando does it with Nunga and I go, but we 102 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:54.879 already saw that this series of the Greco people did not do well, that 103 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:57.160 is to say compared to the original, that is Argentina. Well, no. 104 00:07:57.720 --> 00:08:01.319 The truth is that all the other people who were fine, but Fernando 105 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:05.839 Colón was telenovelesco and then he has the curse that comes to be again a 106 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.879 satire, almost a parody of the original. Terrible. So listen, just 107 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:16.439 recycle, put on other actors. You' ve got a chance and my 108 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:18.519 heart' s a little lupit and heart' s gone, because yes, 109 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:20.560 I haven' t. But also, in theatre, for example, yes 110 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.480 as well. In other words, there are many windows where you can call 111 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:30.319 other factors. It' s just what you see about Colunga that Ephraim is 112 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:33.600 declared. I' m super Cross, Nickrous girls sorry. I don' 113 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:35.120 t know they don' t do it too badly. There you can do 114 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.480 whatever you want wrong Hechi, some things did very well, but that one, 115 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:43.879 that one. He doesn' t hear. That' s why you 116 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:48.360 remember that Gerardo came to see us a lot, very guide and he doesn 117 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:50.360 ' t come anymore, because maybe we said that about the curse and he 118 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:52.840 went out there. But hear, but it is that the monsters of the 119 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:58.039 curse were dyor than those of Latvians to the darkness of the nineties. Hey 120 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.279 it was no, well yeah, it didn' t work out, we 121 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:03.919 ' re gonna do it. It was very bad forgiveness of production monsters, 122 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:09.039 yes monsters hear and people who love no, no, no. I thought 123 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.080 it was terrible. Listen and keep going with this, you see that there 124 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:18.000 ' s the scandal because Christiano Dalli andÁngel Aguilar that this doesn' t 125 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.799 stop, for no? For no? Stop? And go on and on 126 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:22.120 and out a note and another note comes out? But the one I wanted 127 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:30.559 everyone to grab was this Belinda, and not here anymore. And at last 128 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:37.559 it seems that now, yes, they already found it at the airport and 129 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:41.000 what said nothing. Nothing, nothing, because she already in her Captus song, 130 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:46.279 told us everything, she didn' t say anything. His dad stopped 131 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:50.320 him. I love suó palizo the stoppage. They started joking, but they 132 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:54.679 know I did see Belinda' s face wanting to say things. But since 133 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:58.759 you' re her Captus song, she' s in a lot of classes, 134 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:05.200 she' s gone and she' s not saying anything anymore, because 135 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:05.240 if you' re going the glass, it' s not that way now 136 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:05.799 that you' re saying it with a lot of class. I think we 137 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:13.559 were just talking about actors who suddenly lose control with journalists, who can be 138 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:20.159 incisive, annoying, annoying. Whatever you want, not even the bikers, 139 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:24.159 some of them. Or comes this one that always wants to make me angry, 140 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.519 but that what Lupita said and I saw you, that you also mentioned 141 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.720 it, in history, in history, the one that has to control itself 142 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.919 more, is the one that has more to lose and the one that loses 143 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:37.000 more because it is angry, then you are right. And that' s 144 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:39.960 where sometimes some because it still fails them, despite having so many years in 145 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:43.919 the middle And in the case of Belinda, because it seems that she does 146 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:48.399 know how to handle this, because I do think it takes a lot of 147 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.799 tempering too when you are actually boarding so many, so much microphone, you 148 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:56.039 already have them there already you are caught and you are Dale and Dale and 149 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:56.679 Dale, and what do you have to say, what do you have to 150 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:01.279 say? And she has to have a lot of self- control and then 151 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:01.639 nothing else says I don' t think. That' s all he said. 152 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:07.240 I don' t think of other people or other people' s lives 153 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.919 and then says the series A who killed him is the most seen in Adamson. 154 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.200 That' s what she' s interested in. Yeah, not even 155 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.120 if she has a reason for Linda, for what she' s going to 156 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:20.039 get into other things, and above all, after she put up when this 157 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:22.919 Angela- Nodal relationship happened, she put her thirty- second. I think 158 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:28.679 it lasted thirty- four seconds all its own weight and took it off later. 159 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.679 Then, so, and after seeing Eduardo' s reaction, yañes with 160 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:33.039 the press, the dad must have done no, my little girl I don 161 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:37.399 ' t know shouldn' t answer be Belinda. Come on, shut up, 162 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:41.519 shut up, you shut up. Not really, but it is that 163 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:43.000 in the case of Belinda, yes It was a case of poetic jurist, 164 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:48.480 because if we read Captus' s song full sentence profrase, we go to 165 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:52.840 the video, paneo por paneón. There' s everything, that' s 166 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.279 all Belinda' s answer. What' s more, the ones looking for 167 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:01.120 Belinda are a wink. Now I got it, because I just understood that 168 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:05.240 about a week ago, a video of Angel eagle. All of Belinda' 169 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:09.799 s video, all of it is the dress she wore when she left with 170 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:18.120 Nodal and the car in which everything crashed and those big pamphlets that they put 171 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:20.039 all over the city that said don' t look her in the eyes and 172 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:24.720 bring Belinda' s eyes and make her look is a wink to a video 173 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.799 of Enjal eagle. Then they' re all in. In this video you 174 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.960 already saw coming And how weird, because Belinda released the song in January, 175 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:37.200 when we thought Trazu and not Dale was very good. Exactly, exactly, 176 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.600 well, yeah, I think that' s what he had left for whatever 177 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.440 relationship he had after her. Yes, and well, it' s already 178 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:52.279 Linda' s very prudent, which is celebrated, applauded, because, Right 179 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:54.679 now, no one' s talking about Belinda, no one' s saying 180 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.519 Belita. Belinda said, I don' t know what Belinda meant. No, 181 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:03.240 because Belinda understands that her series is very visible, even though she is 182 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:07.960 criticized as Paola spoke during the series. I said, like she says, 183 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:13.919 winning as usual, winning as usual, and I losing to my puppies as 184 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.399 usual, because like her time of play is seven and a quarter. The 185 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:20.639 moment I sit down to work, that' s when they decide to play 186 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:26.600 here with me. But notice that he told them very quickly, very quickly 187 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:30.679 so that he could understand me the day he ran away. It was with 188 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:33.279 the veterinarian because he was missing a vaccine, which is the embroiderer already had 189 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:37.440 the other or the rabies and so on. And then when this vet sees 190 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:41.240 her, which is Cooper' s veterinarian, which is the first time he 191 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:43.080 ' s been with him, I' m telling him how he got here. 192 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.639 And so, and then he says when he arrived, then in December. 193 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.240 And then when she sees her, she tells me that this little dog 194 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.639 must not have had more than six months. When she came with you, 195 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:00.960 she' ll be a baby wandering around the streets all by herself. I 196 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:03.840 ' m glad you' re here. So I' m telling you to 197 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:09.720 understand that it' s accelerated, playful and so on, but it' 198 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.840 s already pasta what' s next. Clara Chia to clear Chia. He 199 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:18.799 won him a paparazzo, a lawsuit. Now in Spain how he hears it. 200 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.879 I thought there was no. Those things did not happen, because imagine 201 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:28.480 I say everywhere is bread every day that these paparazzi are in plural, paparaz 202 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:35.600 in singular. Indeed, they do and undo with their cameras and come and 203 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:41.960 go the information and it is something very much helped, very recurrent, very 204 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:45.879 constant. But the fact that it has been given the task of bringing an 205 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.919 action and that the action has been brought seems remarkable to me. And it 206 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:54.519 turns out that yes, because she accuses him of harassment, that she felt, 207 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.679 because she was very harassed by him, very persecuted and then there in 208 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.679 Barcelona, yes she took the decision and conclusion that he will have to pay 209 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.279 thirteen zero euros and will not be able to approach her for year and a 210 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:09.360 half. And I' m going to tell you something that I, in 211 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:13.480 the part, listened to distuñón in a while ago that I was eating. 212 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:18.840 I was listening to distuñón saying that freedom and paparats and work. I agree 213 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:24.639 and support the work of the paparazzi is their job, Kadri Paparazzis. Great. 214 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:28.200 I think that' s very valid. But what Clarachia says is me. 215 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:33.000 She wasn' t a public figure And it' s true, Clara 216 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.759 Chia wasn' t a footballer, she wasn' t a singer, she 217 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:43.720 wasn' t an actress, she wasn' t a socialité, she was 218 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.840 a piqué girlfriend It' s like we' re not going to think of 219 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:52.559 any other famous woman who has an anonymous wife and they go and chase her 220 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:56.440 up to the super like the ay That' s like Gabriel Soto' s 221 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:58.480 right now, well not in the case of Gabriel Sotos, they would chase 222 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:03.240 him because she would be the umpteenth girlfriend in turn. It' s exactly 223 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:06.679 like when kids aren' t girls, like when kids are taking pictures. 224 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:11.519 So it' s just as gradium, because finally, of course, it 225 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.480 ' s not a public figure. Life led her to make a public figure 226 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:18.440 and it was in everyone' s mouth because, then, clearly not. 227 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.840 But from there because besides, if that dragged her, no, I mean, 228 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:25.679 the fact that we said her name every day five times a day, 229 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:32.120 because clearly we listened to her five times a day in every place, she 230 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:33.759 took her to that place. But she' s no one is not a 231 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.159 public figure, she wouldn' t have to be persecuted. I do compare 232 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:41.840 it like when they photograph the kids, I mean, you don' t 233 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:45.120 have to. Well, she, who she is, or the famous one, 234 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.600 yes, but she is. And I think that, moreover, this 235 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.480 proceeded above all by the forms, because that is what she is saying, 236 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:56.639 because she felt harassed, invaded, persecuted And then that is also why this 237 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:02.879 proceeds. And then in Barcelona there is a judge who, then, dictates 238 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:07.960 not this sentence, because there are a lot of other photographers and there are 239 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:11.400 many spellings of you that and he declares and they go up and they are 240 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:15.839 here and they have not been sued. This one in particular, was because 241 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:21.319 it was, as well as already, very very invasive and is much very 242 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:23.200 invasive, very very invasive. The truth is, yes, a lot very 243 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:29.279 invasive. I totally agree, because I feel a precedent back there in Spain, 244 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:30.200 at least, and I don' t know if something like this can 245 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.880 be done here in Mexico. I think that once, if I remember correctly 246 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:38.880 also Barbara Mori complained because there was a paparasia had taken pictures of her inside 247 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:42.440 the living room of her house and yes, it was a terrible invasion of 248 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:47.039 her privacy, because one thing is that they were ri being figure they took 249 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:51.720 her leaving her house in a public place that inside the living room of her 250 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:55.400 house. It' s not like a neighbor right now starts photographing me here 251 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:59.039 when you publish them, or it' s like they' re talking to 252 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:03.160 me. Not sure, he doesn' t say the maria. It was 253 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:06.559 a precedent to sue anyone, not anyone. I think whoever takes pictures of 254 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:11.000 you and harasses you because maybe, good to these people who took pictures of 255 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:14.759 NodalliÁngel Aguilar in Paris, well, it wasn' t that they were 256 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:18.000 chasing him. They bought a ticket, no, because they found them and 257 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:22.119 they' re fans and they followed her. And now. But the other 258 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:26.079 case was already a little more dramatic. It' s not that finally the 259 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:29.839 thing, that thing. You know what happens a lot in gyms that I 260 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:34.599 see all the time old pigs taking pictures of the kids. If only they 261 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:37.839 could see what a coraji. Yeah, you don' t know which phones 262 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:40.640 they removed. I' m a smart girl because I feel like the vigilante 263 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:42.319 in the gym. I mean, seriously, gentlemen, so they' re 264 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:45.279 here, I don' t think I' m gonna train you. I 265 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.680 mean, yeah, it' s bad. It' s so lousy that 266 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:53.319 it' s awful r is that that' s clear, of course, 267 00:18:53.880 --> 00:19:00.160 because I did know, I met a paparazzi who was going the same gym 268 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:04.720 as me, but it was extremely respectful that I was going to go many 269 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:06.920 celebrities and was extremely respectful inside the gym because in the end it' s 270 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:08.480 a private place. Hey, you' re sweating me in there, you 271 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:14.000 ' re in your worst laps. No, and if he was truly respectful 272 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:17.200 and I hadn' t noticed it, notice that until a coach told me 273 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.799 you were his friend, ale very well, but admire him that day. 274 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:22.799 I admire it very much, of course, because that' s being professional. 275 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:29.359 Nonprofessional knows when and how where I work clearly, of course, you 276 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:33.079 can' t hear if you see me distracted, because something has today is 277 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:36.839 that today something has my networks that doesn' t get stuck to everything. 278 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:41.759 I have paused the chats and so on, but I have not been able 279 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:47.480 to download this photo of which Christian Chávez published. I was trying to unload 280 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:51.240 it and I can' t unload it, but I' m gonna put 281 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:52.920 it here because you sent it to us. You Ephraim, publish it where 282 00:19:53.039 --> 00:20:00.319 it' s because he publishes this photo. Let' s see. There 283 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:03.640 it is, Instagram, on Instagram, the public will remove the lamp. 284 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:07.960 There it is to make it look good. There he is. I say 285 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:12.720 that' s why FIFA has punished the Mexican team. For this word, 286 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:18.599 the truth. For that word, the Mexican team has been punished with many 287 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:26.799 fine matches. For this reason, they have also been punished in the batons 288 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:30.759 for that, because that word should not be used. I don' t 289 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:36.720 know how you see it Ephraim, the Christian can use it and then, 290 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:40.200 exactly that' s why I came to bring them this subject of what we 291 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:44.519 were talking about the other day, that no one understood it and some girl 292 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:48.440 answered me in the comments of the other age that yes, it' s 293 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:49.000 very complicated that a person who isn' t seeing the context understands the situation. 294 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:52.559 I mean, I can' t talk about feminism because I' m 295 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:53.039 not a woman. I can' t understand girls. She' s not 296 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:56.240 having a birth. It wasn' t, I mean, there are issues 297 00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:00.759 that you come up with that in life I' m going to understand then 298 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:03.039 heterosexuals. Suddenly he doesn' t understand the situation of what is Saturday and 299 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:07.680 what is this month was the march, the pride that today more than ever 300 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:15.920 I understand why it is so important and this christian what he is doing with 301 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:21.960 taking up this word is to re- mean the words, which was what 302 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:25.559 I was trying to say that day, that is, to take up a 303 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:29.079 word that hurt us so much, that it so badly bullied homosexuals and, 304 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:33.960 from that place, to re- mean it so that it' s no 305 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:38.319 longer a word that assaults you, because in FIFA they say the fucking word 306 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:41.279 to offend, to denoster, to stand aside. It' s like when 307 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:45.359 women remean the word bitch and then you' ll have said that bitch you 308 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:51.319 ' re not no nosstrates, but it' s what shit, like the 309 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:56.200 word bollocks I explained to them that day, that the bollocks came from when 310 00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:59.240 a Spaniard pregnant an indigenous woman and the one from her you fucked and already 311 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:03.640 from drinking was a bollocks and because now we' re all very bollocks and 312 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:06.519 a word is remeaning. That' s what Christian' s trying to do 313 00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:08.720 with this documentary, putting it like that. I, when I saw the 314 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:12.000 word, became super aggressive. I said ay Cristia, because it' s 315 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:18.240 not this, yes because it' s more, there are gay activism discussion 316 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:21.960 forums that I' ve been resting on for a while now and I want 317 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:26.599 to take it back because I' m interested in my community and with the 318 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:27.480 window that lupita gives me, I think it might be important to do something 319 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:32.039 right. Done, nothing more with the legs. And I used to say 320 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:34.640 when they said what word we can take in order not to take the word 321 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:37.680 gay, because the word gay is not a not in Spanish. We are 322 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:44.079 occupying an anglicism, because there were discussion forums that said fucking jacko faggot and 323 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:45.240 I said to is that all the well aggressive ones. Not to give me 324 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:48.160 of this, please, no, but the real factor is that yes, 325 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:53.759 Latinos and Mexicans need to have a word that reregnifies something that denoted us so 326 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:59.319 much that it is not homosexual, because finally, the word homosexual is the 327 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:02.720 word sen you, but as well as in English is the word gay. 328 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:08.160 We need to look for a word that identifies us, that resigns us and 329 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:11.680 that the community can identify itself from a place that is no longer violent. 330 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:18.160 So I understand that it' s very shocking from the other age of heterosexuals 331 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:22.000 to see the word like that, because it' s a shock in sight. 332 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:27.480 But the factor of what you want to be a Christian is this remeaning 333 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:33.079 the word, because the truth, if anyone has my respect, they do 334 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:36.559 know what happens to the word gay. In fact, he meant only to 335 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:40.440 claim. So, well, it' s given a different meaning. I, 336 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:44.160 I am of the opinion that words, words, like substances, like 337 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:49.160 deeds, like everything are, are without judgment and people print the meaning. 338 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:57.400 Then I can say the word to the bastard and give him a different intention. 339 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:03.359 And then I can use bastard as compliment, or bastard as insult or 340 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:08.160 bastard as nothing. Like saying. There' s a fucking dot walking around 341 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:14.200 as you understand me, so every person gives it the meaning. And all 342 00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:17.079 that according to your experience and what you want to say and in the context 343 00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:19.839 you say it. The use of the word is a beauty. Languages are 344 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:25.920 a beauty and Spanish is also a beauty. Then I think the words you 345 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:33.079 mentioned are offensive. They went because they were said in a context of intolerance, 346 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:37.480 They were said at another time in a context of pointing and persecution. 347 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.240 Yeah, but that' s not happening today. If I were to say 348 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.480 one of those words to you, as I would say, it wouldn' 349 00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:49.440 t have that meaning, but you, if you would accept it, you 350 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:55.200 would take it that way because you understand me, but I wouldn' t 351 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:59.039 have to say it that way, and as Ephraim says, it' s 352 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:00.599 something I also understand and Lupita said it too. I end up saying it 353 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.880 ' s something that' s taking time, how the words are being transformed 354 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.480 and the meaning we give them. And the best example is the one you 355 00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:08.480 said a while ago, not that it can be insulting, but in doing, 356 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.279 but partying. But I mean, not the whole word with che. 357 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:17.839 Then it has evolved, but in a barbaric way. And also this other 358 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:21.640 word that I' m not going to say, because I, like you 359 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:26.200 said, can say it. You can say you can say no. I 360 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:29.400 can' t give you anything. You can say it with the good one 361 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:30.880 no, but I' m telling you with nothing. I wouldn' t 362 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:36.279 say it right now, but I mean that word all of a sudden today. 363 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:40.319 Currently I do still feel her strong, violent. This is probably going 364 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:44.400 to change, as you say, but it is true that there is also 365 00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:48.480 another connotation that I have heard when, for example, someone achieves something and 366 00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:52.960 does it well and no one expected it. I' ve heard that they 367 00:25:52.279 --> 00:26:00.160 say ah you did it, that' s already entering as on this other 368 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:00.920 level, of course, yes or no. I can, no, yes, 369 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:03.200 yes, no. And there are words that just don' t. 370 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:07.000 There are words that perhaps tell women that for those who are young and others 371 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:12.559 or for those who use them in a way are offensive. For women there 372 00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:18.400 are also very offensive words that are used with a lot of everyday. Oh, 373 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:19.880 well, that' s a no. No, it' s not 374 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:25.480 a saying because not everyone gets it like that and what you have to understand 375 00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:30.559 is the intention. It' s the intention. Yesterday I was listening in 376 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.799 a note. I don' t remember. If it was on a newscast 377 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:37.240 or on an image show, I don' t remember. But they talked 378 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.519 about video games and the damage video games did and about the use of avatar 379 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:48.680 and why people went and killed. It was a more or less red note 380 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:52.640 from a person who had gone to kill a playmate to another city after fighting 381 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:59.920 this person for video game. Not then that video games have discussed it in 382 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.799 the most broken that video games could influence behaviors and it is not the same 383 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:08.559 again. There are millions, billions of people who play video games and that 384 00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.680 ' s not why they go out to kill their partner. So, it 385 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:17.640 ' s not the substance, it' s the person who plays it. 386 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:19.319 So he' s not, he' s not the one who consumes it. 387 00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.680 So it' s not the word, it' s who and how 388 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.880 you say it. And we' ve analyzed it many times. That' 389 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.480 s us in broken souls just from the kid he played. Yeah, but 390 00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:34.839 that wasn' t right now so what Christian Chaze is being is a documentary 391 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:40.759 and in this documentary what he shows us with this name and this word, 392 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.000 what' s important. I loved what he said, because he was talking 393 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:51.839 about exactly this whole thing about how we got out of so- called clous 394 00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:55.319 det. And I live Christian Chavez with a lot of love because it was 395 00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.519 a reference for me and I put it in the check story and there were 396 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.759 women making prints, that is, cher suffered because there were no brunette women 397 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:08.559 to identify themselves. Imagine that I didn' t have a successful homosexual character, 398 00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:14.839 that it wasn' t a joke like an agapit of being a conduit 399 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.440 of all these. I didn' t have a character I could identify with. 400 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:21.279 The glory of all this is that now not only are Chávez, it 401 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:26.039 is but Ricky Martin, but this child who sings Saturn we all live, 402 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:32.160 that is, there are like many homosexual Pablo Durán, that is many homosexuals 403 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:34.920 in Zirlanda, Paolo, that is so many successful people with which you can 404 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:40.440 identify that it is not a joke. So I think that from that place 405 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:42.880 the documentary is going to be very interesting, because it' s going to 406 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:47.400 talk about exactly that other age that I' m going to really like that 407 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.920 you guys are going to see when I live with feminist women and you' 408 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.039 re in activism and so on. I learn a lot because I' m 409 00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.079 not a woman. I can' t understand them. I don' t 410 00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.680 know how you guys live on gender- based violence, that is, I 411 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:04.200 can, but civil form tex is perceived in many ways, like a woman 412 00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.559 doesn' t tell you that you can' t think about football, for 413 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:08.559 example, because you' re a woman. So, for example, women. 414 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:15.200 I understand that the community has suffered a lot, but women have suffered 415 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:21.920 historically since being the culprits of having lost paradise. And I can' t 416 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:26.000 talk about feminism because I' m not a woman. I can' t 417 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:27.920 understand it, I mean, I can see it from the outside, it 418 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.599 ' s more, from my privileged place of being a man, because despite 419 00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:33.559 this homosexual I' m a man. Then I was born with the privilege 420 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.960 of being a man. I don' t mean, because from this place 421 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.880 and maybe, since my discrimination that I' m gay, I can see 422 00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:47.240 how machismo and patriarchy have hurt you. But that' s where liminality is 423 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:52.119 where I can be. No, I can' t have it like you, 424 00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:56.200 because I don' t live it. I think that in order to 425 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:04.720 bring a real civilization so that the world would be truly civilized, we should 426 00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:11.000 stop calling each other with labels or classifications. You' re Ephraim and I 427 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:15.200 ' m Guadalupe. And I don' t have anyone to say if I 428 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.039 ' m a woman, if I' m tall and fat, if I 429 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.279 ' m skinny, if I' m flat and I speak English and I 430 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:22.799 ' m my daughter, I' m a dot. Then people should refer 431 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:30.160 to them as the person they are and they should refer to them as the 432 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.759 person they are and they should refer to them as the person they cs but 433 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:38.359 you know what. And I was very curious because it was happening as well 434 00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.920 as we heard. So, indy Lopez, I mean, in this whole 435 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.880 thing of putting us all in boxes and then we all want to be part 436 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.519 of something. But it' s just that exactly what I just told you 437 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:51.559 I don' t know who failed or who left the image. It was 438 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.680 me or I freeze something, but exactly aha. This is what I was 439 00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:02.079 saying. Right now, let me freeze why we have to call. Right 440 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:06.039 now, Fabiana also told us about lesbians who give them calfir as well. 441 00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:10.480 Why would we have to call one person in some way or another, why 442 00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:15.759 don' t you call the person by name and clear point and point, 443 00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.720 that is, because you are a woman man, whether you like it, 444 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:25.920 pay them or not, if what you care, why would we have that 445 00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:33.799 we are all or what it says here, do, what are twelve might 446 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.160 be my sign. I tell you, everything has failed me. Everything has 447 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.160 failed me, but well, since here a conversation so serious important for Ephraim 448 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.559 and the dog does not let listen, because it is not my dog. 449 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:49.599 Look, my doggies are asleep down here, it' s gonna be mine 450 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:56.279 They' re down here I slept asleep, that is, they' re 451 00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:59.039 tempting with such an anxiety to be man and let me see if I can 452 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:00.559 reduce the exact sound. So don' t even criticize me because they' 453 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:05.519 re looking and besides, I warm up that they' re asleep on my 454 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.559 feet you still hear, yeah, yeah, still you traisy lii man and 455 00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:14.160 forgiveness. Now it' s me what. Well, it was those cats 456 00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:19.079 and e g nga hears yu Judith says she sees them very well.Álvaro 457 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.960 García says it' s all right now, says Lola that we' ve 458 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:27.920 made up already. Well, there they are, they' re not as 459 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.039 good as they are. Well, I think we' ve stabilized a little. 460 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:31.519 No. But I think that' s the argument. That is the 461 00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:38.359 argument as long as we continue to fight and I say it with absolutely all 462 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:45.559 peace, as long as we continue to fight for others to treat us, 463 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.880 tell us and refer as we want them to do. We' re not 464 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:52.519 going to come to any agreement. But the moment we decide to talk to 465 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.039 each other, everyone by our name and in respect for the person we are 466 00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:02.559 without labels, I don' t care if full is gay, heterosexual, 467 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.160 bisex I don' t care that should make me equal. Full to me, 468 00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:10.359 little guy, I' m interested in his name and who he is 469 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.000 and point and point. But I' m gonna pretend that I' m 470 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:19.680 gonna go out and tell them, I' m gonna go out and complain 471 00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.039 to all the people who say that ladies my age can' t talk about 472 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.680 football. I don' t care. Tell me what the lord wants I 473 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.599 don' t care. I don' t think I' m, I 474 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:31.079 ' m, I' m, I' m gonna differ. Me. 475 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:36.119 Yeah. I think labels are important. What happens is what they generate with 476 00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.720 them. Yeah, I think they' re important because I mean, Mom, 477 00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:40.480 it' s a label friend, friend, no, no, no, 478 00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:43.119 no, no, no, no, no, no, that' 479 00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.759 s not a label. That' s a life role. That' s 480 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.279 not a label, because it can be a gay dad, it can be 481 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:53.240 a straight dad, it can be a male friend, it' s different 482 00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:59.200 things. But I do think it' s important to label and label sex. 483 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:00.079 Yeah, I think without you I think I do, yeah, I 484 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:05.039 think it' s important. And I believe it because it' s not 485 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.400 the same thing in playing you. I mean, from my other age, 486 00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:12.159 I can' t demand heterosexuals to understand things they don' t have to 487 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.320 understand. But I mean, I think it' s important to label, 488 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.960 that is, because it' s important that you have to tell people what 489 00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:24.679 your sexual preference is, because I' m going to set the most controversial 490 00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:30.840 example in this world and it has to do, for example, with the 491 00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:32.840 subject of toilets, with trans people, that is, there are things that 492 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:39.000 are already happening and they are real, so what we' re going to 493 00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:43.960 do, because from respect, because the issue of what was distorted here is 494 00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.840 that they' re afraid of the label, because the label isn' t 495 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.880 bad. The problem is when it' s mislabelled. If a soda has 496 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:52.480 sugar, then it has sugar, if it' s zero, then it 497 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:58.079 ' s zero. There are bisexual people, there are musical people, and 498 00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:04.440 perhaps the community is not so important. But with all this stuff about trans 499 00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.440 people and non- binary people, they' re so complicated things to understand 500 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.840 even for me, because for me it' s very complicated to understand that. 501 00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:15.599 And I' m going to tell you one thing. I have had 502 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.000 a close relationship with trans men lately, because I have many patients who send 503 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.679 them a kiss, who are trans men who told me people invisibilize us. 504 00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:27.719 But since we don' t know that we were women and that we are 505 00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:29.880 men now, we don' t exist. Nobody talks about us, but 506 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.559 here we are. But then to see but why they are invisible, that 507 00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:37.519 is, what they would have to be. Something very serious, Luis, 508 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.159 you don' t know what' s going on. A trans guy can 509 00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:43.360 ' t bathe in a shower, a bath, a gym, because men 510 00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.559 see each other and then, for example, because he doesn' t have 511 00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:52.920 a penis. And that is, finally, what space you' re going 512 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:57.480 to put in there what we said in the beauty contests. Open some open 513 00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:02.480 a few indistinct baths or special baths for trans people and that years of men 514 00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:07.239 to put on already And that still does not happen. I do, I 515 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:12.639 think I do. I think labels can be important and they don' t 516 00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:14.079 have to be. I don' t think they' re bad. Uh, 517 00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:20.320 I' d be looking at a midpoint, that is because labeling is 518 00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:27.920 a strong word, which implies a kind of limitation, I feel, and 519 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:34.159 that, besides limitation, it erases other infinitely more important attributes of a human 520 00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:38.599 being than what he does with his personal life and how he feels. Then 521 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:44.039 I would see it as something intermediate in this sense, that is because here 522 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:45.440 I am also seeing some comments. It is that suddenly yes, they ask 523 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:49.320 you up in the jobs or seven put in an apple, because yes, 524 00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:52.639 something has to be known, for example, in a query, not, 525 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.719 for example, in a query, in a first interview, because one does 526 00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:59.559 ask questions. He doesn' t ask people. You' re married single 527 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.119 this is why. You don' t need to know the context of the 528 00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:07.719 person. And now what we normally ask is the majority. We don' 529 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:14.400 t ask in a valuation interview you have boyfriend or girlfriend something like that anymore 530 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:21.519 we don' t stay with that or that' s not this heterosexual homosexual 531 00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:23.440 person, like we care about tagging. We simply ask how you are living 532 00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:28.440 your life to have the context and so we ask you have boyfriend or Bride 533 00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:29.679 something, ah, well, yes, I have you, I don' 534 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:31.800 t have you. I' m married, I' m married and so 535 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:35.639 much, but this part I think the word etiquette is what this is strong. 536 00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.960 Of course, I draw attention, because it' s like limiting or 537 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:43.719 constraining the person. To that, to that and and I' ll tell 538 00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:46.920 you one thing, the argument. I think it' s a discussion that 539 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.639 we' re talking about two different things. You' re talking about the 540 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:54.280 label in one from a pragmatic point of view, from practice. Not me, 541 00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:58.239 no, I' m talking to you from a person' s I 542 00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:05.000 D. I see the person as a whole and its accidents, all its 543 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.000 characteristics are characteristic of him, which I do not have to review or explain 544 00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:13.400 to me. You mean practice life a day, going to a bathroom, 545 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:17.119 going to a consultation. But, well, yes, I totally agree. 546 00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:22.639 But that' s why I label you, that I have to, that 547 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.639 I have to introduce credentials and that you have to tell me, no, 548 00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.679 no, I don' t think anyone, because then we would have to 549 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:37.679 go out on the street saying hey Guadalupe Martinez. I' m dyslexic, 550 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:43.239 well, no, don' t, don' t. But for you, 551 00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.519 Loupils, and that I know you, it' s not important. 552 00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:55.639 But for many people this issue of practicality ah clear, out of respect, 553 00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:59.679 out of respect and out of tolerance. And out of respect, of course, 554 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:01.239 I don' t understand. It' s more. I' m 555 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:05.360 gonna tell you something that happened with a trans girl two weeks ago at the 556 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:08.519 gym I' m going to. At the weekend there was a meeting with 557 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:15.159 all the ladies to know which bathroom I had to go into and I appreciated 558 00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:17.679 that she said well, because the partners tell me if they want me in 559 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:21.360 their bathroom or I go to another bathroom. The world is not going to 560 00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:27.400 end. But that' s when you say well, she knows the place 561 00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:34.320 that real life has. I mean, this topic is that I do believe 562 00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.880 and I said it the other day that as I left the closet it ceases 563 00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:47.559 to be a political act and heterosexuality is the norm measured life is going to 564 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:52.559 change us. But that can be understood by people like you, to whom 565 00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.840 I speak of my nobles, as if nothing happened and they never make me 566 00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:58.239 expensive, I mean and I, although it is catalogo with my fellows when 567 00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:01.840 we are alone boys, well catalon with my companions and tell me nothing, 568 00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:06.159 because you have another degree of evolution and I don' t say it from 569 00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:08.840 the guavabazo, because it doesn' t go that way. But the bulk 570 00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:15.280 of the population girls live in another age and there are still many rivers yes. 571 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:17.519 I think that' s why we' d have to work in that 572 00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:21.079 place. We' d have to work on respect rather than label. I 573 00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:25.320 think respect and exact education. Well, we' re not gonna miss the 574 00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:29.639 theme we had, which we have on the cover. That' s why 575 00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.559 I' m sorry to interrupt us It' s not that I' m 576 00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:34.039 not interested in the subject, because we can be a special program. With 577 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.840 regard to this, I fully agree and have guests as well, because in 578 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:42.800 addition, it would open up our perspective a little bit and we could come 579 00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.679 to understand a lot better. This is not great I totally agree with the 580 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.000 one who wrote it to us. I totally agree. But well, the 581 00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.599 enemy at home, Laura Viñati and theÁurea Zapata, that this is the 582 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:55.559 theme of the cover and we haven' t touched it. We' re 583 00:40:55.599 --> 00:41:00.199 running out of time. Well, Laura Viñadi has denounced it, we haven 584 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:05.719 ' t talked about it. He has denounced to this man that he raped 585 00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.159 her and as I tell them, because they do not want to upload my 586 00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:12.599 photos today. But, well, she reported, posted on her instagram, 587 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:17.039 so you can find her. Laura Vignati with double tea and went to Daniel 588 00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:23.280 Iturbide' s program to the news where she was given a space to denounce 589 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:28.559 this man who has not been arrested. The case of Laura Viñati, who 590 00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:31.159 was kidnapped, has not evolved. I read the other day that it was 591 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:35.559 her fault because she had gone to live with him when he had very little 592 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:37.880 time to know him is that he has nothing to do with that for a 593 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.880 person to hold you against your will. And, on the other hand, 594 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.519 we had talked here about the subject of Patricio Cabezut and I had it personally. 595 00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:50.920 Yes, I admit that I had criticized Uria Zapata because some audios had 596 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:55.760 come out that was what we heard where she threatened Patricio Cabezut to send him, 597 00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.480 because to know what the lawyer said, to see what he was denouncing, 598 00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.440 but they had already raided it. Well, they had gone into his 599 00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:09.760 house to get his house because Patcio Cabezut had more than a hundred visits that 600 00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:15.920 were not available to his daughters. However, she now speaks loudly and says 601 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:21.239 what happens is that the one who did not go to visits with my daughters 602 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:25.320 was Patricio Cabezut It was the one who cancelled the visits. This was an 603 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:30.679 interview with Andrea Escalona and Tania Rincón on the show today where they opened the 604 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:36.719 space. It should be noted that today, too, Patricio Cabezut has been 605 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:40.679 given the microphone, in other words, they have been fair. So here 606 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:45.559 what happens is that he goes out to Oria Zapata, interviewed by these two 607 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:47.960 drivers and presents because I was hearing him talk and I said to see, 608 00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.119 so let' s go, let' s hear, Let' s hear, 609 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:53.039 Let' s hear? She then maintains that the one who canceled the 610 00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:58.440 visits was Patrick Cabezut himself, who does have a job and that, despite 611 00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:00.440 that, he has not given them a pension And the strongest thing of all 612 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:06.039 is that, besides presenting photos where marks are shown here, you know how 613 00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.360 they are here when they pull you, when you get your arm bruised in 614 00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:14.159 the leg, where they say that he beat him with a belt. And 615 00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:17.000 the strongest thing of all is a video where you see it' s a 616 00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:24.199 hidden camera. This aurea Zapata says she was in a pandemic, she had 617 00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:30.119 covid had her two little daughters and you hear Patricio Cabezut' s voice yelling 618 00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:36.159 at the daughters in rudeness and bad words. I' m gonna hit you 619 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.280 with the belt. I' m gonna hit you Get in there. That 620 00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:43.239 ' s where you' re polluting everything. I understand that during the running 621 00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:45.920 of the bulls the mental health of many people was affected, but to violence 622 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.639 two small girls in that way because it must have been a strong trauma and 623 00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.960 especially with the threat of a belt and to beat them and listen to the 624 00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:55.960 voice of now Zapata telling his daughters not your dad, it will not hit 625 00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:58.239 you, it will not hit you. And in the end, well, 626 00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:00.440 well, get out of the house and I' m already going to go, 627 00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:04.360 and yes, you hear a patrician who' s violent. That' 628 00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:08.639 s what we saw on the show today, the day of the interview with 629 00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:13.960 Abra Zapata, Andreas Calona and Tania Rincón. I don' t know how 630 00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:19.800 you saw it, because yes, as you say, terrible, strong, 631 00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:23.400 surprising, because it does contrast with this, with this other information that we 632 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.480 had heard, which is also where it says. I don' t know 633 00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:29.079 what I' m gonna charge you with. I' ll call myself the 634 00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:34.559 lawyer. We could probably think today that she didn' t know what terms 635 00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.360 to use or probably didn' t want to tell him what she was actually 636 00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:38.960 planning because maybe she was afraid, she wasn' t clear about things. 637 00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:42.679 I don' t know about that violence, because it' s there. 638 00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:49.119 However, the rest will still be seen, the other accusations she has raised, 639 00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:54.199 but I believe that the important thing here is clear that she has every 640 00:44:54.239 --> 00:45:00.280 right in the world to decide when and where she shares what she has as 641 00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:04.440 evidence. The main thing is, therefore, that it should certainly do so 642 00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.199 before the authorities. It is not to reproach why you did not teach it 643 00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.320 before, but simply and simply is the story that they are telling us and 644 00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:15.079 that, as a public, we receive in that order. Because you say 645 00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:17.000 it' s Elvira Araceli Garcia, says the videos are manipulated. Why do 646 00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:21.599 you present them so far? What you' re saying is the truest thing 647 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:25.280 we can say. We can think about what they see us, based on 648 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.239 what they see us. We can' t say more than that. It 649 00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:34.559 ' s not true that it' s very adventurous to say that a video 650 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.639 is manipulated. No, I mean, the video is what we' re 651 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.559 watching, as well as the audios, where she also said what she was 652 00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:45.519 saying. It' s the audios where she said it. So it' 653 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:50.480 s very adventurous to generate a trial right now and say no if the videos 654 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.559 are manipulated. That I believe that no one are to judgment of daring is 655 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:57.320 more or to give either of you the reason at this point. And I 656 00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:02.239 ' m going to tell you what I did think was true as long as 657 00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:08.519 the video was true. So, I kept thinking and then the other saying 658 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:13.039 to see how I do it. But I' m going to see what 659 00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:16.000 I' m accusing you of, because couples are the reflection of our self 660 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:22.239 - love and are the reflection of reality. So, then, it wouldn 661 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.760 ' t be so wild to think that the other, if it were true, 662 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:28.639 if the other is able to tell you what I accuse you of? 663 00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.559 I mean, we' re talking about two people who are totally out of 664 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.480 reality or two said Mira or two people sorry, no yes, yes, 665 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.760 that put it out of reality. No more saying that. I think what 666 00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:46.119 we' re seeing is my opinion and my perception is that everyone is telling 667 00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:52.559 a part of the truth, that is, because we won' t know 668 00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:54.400 what it' s like, that is, everyone who the part I want 669 00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.079 you to see I' m going to introduce you to what I want. 670 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.199 Hey, I' m gonna introduce you to the audio with the lawyer, 671 00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:02.400 which I want you to listen to, and I' m gonna introduce you 672 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:05.519 to the videos at my house, which I want you to watch. No. 673 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.880 However, I think the two of you must have your share of the 674 00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:14.199 blame and both of you must have your little things. Yes, and I 675 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.199 ' m telling you and if she' s showing evidence of violence, then 676 00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:20.320 how terrible and she' s absolutely right to have said I wanted to separate 677 00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:24.559 myself. That is why it is absolutely understandable and also necessary, especially for 678 00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:30.000 protecting herself and her minor daughters. Now I tell you the other part is 679 00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:36.920 missing, the part that they also accuse even more serious will have to be 680 00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:38.679 shown. And then who knows, not in other words, we don' 681 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.320 t know. But if the opinions that we have poured, for they have 682 00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:46.119 been that in function of the reality that they have been showing us all this 683 00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:51.880 time And if, at a given moment this would change and could also change 684 00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:54.639 the case of Torpar, the case of whom you want with the necessary evidence. 685 00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:59.400 It' s not that you get rid of anything, but it' 686 00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.280 s just that you think from what we see, the truth of what we 687 00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:06.159 see. Neither are we public prosecutors, lawyers, judges, nor are we 688 00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:08.079 good at all the evidence. It' s the Mira case. I' 689 00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:13.119 m going to keep this thing that Paula tells us, which says one thing 690 00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:16.719 is spanking and another abuse of children. Neither is good, but there is 691 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:22.079 the same difference. So, they' re both violent, but, of 692 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:27.119 course, it' s one very strong thing, one accusation and another is 693 00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:30.320 no different. So, then, we' ll see what reactions there are 694 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.920 because surely Patrick will sometimes react to this, otherwise he' s already reacted 695 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:36.880 and we' re going to be talking about it. But listen, tomorrow 696 00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:39.280 we' re gonna talk about toxic couples. We' re doing this test 697 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:44.000 of passing through, digging up stories or these new programs about analysis. Tomorrow 698 00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:47.079 you' re going to talk about toxic couples with our favorite specialists. There 699 00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:50.840 ' s going to be Juan and Salazari and there' s going to be 700 00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.000 Dr Mel and, of course, the entire history team that wants to get 701 00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:58.719 in really well. Yeah, because, but the joke is to talk about 702 00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:02.480 it. Let' s analyze different toxic couples and toxic relationships in general, 703 00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:07.320 because nothing more couples. There are parents and children, there are toxic siblings, 704 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:14.039 there are all kinds of toxic relationships and exact toxic, also toxic artistic 705 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.280 couples. Oh, well, everyone treats you, for example, I' 706 00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:21.480 m coming to this show. I mean, it' s been, it 707 00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:22.760 ' s been tomorrow, I' ll see you here, here, I 708 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:27.199 ' ll see you at night. Thank you very much, Dr Abel, 709 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.079 thank you all very much. He was a very father and look how to 710 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:31.760 make them see that it' s not true, that we' re always 711 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:37.320 right. We really have everyone' s opinions, but we can discuss and 712 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:42.000 come to certain conclusions together and that' s very nice and that' s 713 00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:44.440 why we' re going this program with all peace. Thank you, Effra 714 00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:47.360 Baby. I love them girls and to see that because the other day they 715 00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:52.519 said they had me tongue- handled and then Lupita told me what I had 716 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.480 ever had to say. I' ve never had a line in my life. 717 00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.559 I can say what I want always on the barrier of respect and I 718 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:04.280 believe never in your disrespect. And let' s finish the program just as 719 00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.559 we gossip about other things are relaxed exactly in the comments. This is the 720 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:15.159 program with all peace, along with exact peace. Hey and recognize me, 721 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.519 actually. As for the subject that Ephraim touched on, I recognize that I 722 00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.480 speak from ignorance, but we promise that we will organize that program with guests 723 00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.559 that I hope you will bring us, Ephraim and that they will explain to 724 00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:29.880 us so that we can understand those who are of other generations. Thank you 725 00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:37.719 very much to those who have accompanied us today and we see ourselves rejecting this 726 00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:40.880 good one. Thank you so much for joining us for being here with us 727 00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:44.920 on the platforms, whom YouTube and I see. I go running to history, 728 00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:47.719 in history, see you guys later and repeat, a thousand thanks, 729 00:50:49.280 --> 00:51:01.440 always a thousand thanks to