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Or the most laborious research and production
work I ever did. I did it

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in two thousand one. I spent
weeks collecting and investigating the bands of the

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boy bands in the world of that
phenomenon that there was, and one of

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them left Germany, this one that
was from Munich Bowen and sang in German

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very good band at the beginning of
the two thousand. In Germany it was

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very successful and good that research work. I got it fixed, but nothing,

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at least there was the memory that
everywhere there was a voiba in a

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boy bang. Yes, at that
time and they all sounded the same,

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exactly with the influence of what'
s called Te Martin, what' s

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called the one that produced The Marketing
today, to Bac Srel Boys and Max

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Martin. Great, well, one
of the best producers in history, that

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mess made Vaina. After that,
he has continued to produce and has had

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a lot of discipleship. Dr.
Luke is one of them and others who

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also accompanied him to work and are
also hiding and succeeding. Look. You

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know that with the case of Eugene
what is the name of the Seed,

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the deputy for the Roman one.
Yesterday the PRM lesbian bloc complained deeply and

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sent a document for this man to
be punished for the expressions he has expressed.

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It seems to us that in the
country we are licking. The article

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contains the Constitution. Before deputy and
member of the walls. Mr Sedeño is

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a citizen, Dominican, and so
you find what you said offensive. He

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has every right to say what he
said, including what he said on Monday

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in an interview, even if it
seems offensive to you now if it seems

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improperly political for a Member to say
that, for we could discuss it,

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but he owns his conscience and has
the full freedom to express what he thinks.

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Having said this about Eugenio de sedeño
deputy, yesterday the party also decided

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to subject him to disciplinary progress.
We had him invited for tomorrow here in

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the program and he, who is
a very correct and very responsible man,

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communicated with us and told us that, since he had this process, he

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would then prefer to submit to this
question of how he called to discipline of

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but everyone has asked the head of
Eugenio Cedeño Look what Eugenio Cedeño said has

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no value or importance for what really
matters. You have noticed how all the

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media have focused on saying that he
is going to little by little. He

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says of the free people today that
he is little short of Congress, but

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that he has submitted few projects this
of two thousand two, being a deputy

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for the province of La Romana,
and his performance as deputy of key moments

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have been very important, because he
has defended what has been most convenient for

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the Dominican Republic. For example,
people who know you still have access to

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the beaches, because when the two
thousand ten reform was given, Eugenio Cedeño

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was that he pointed out that taking
away Dominicans access to the beaches and privatizing

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Dominican beaches constitutionally was a counterproductive and
he defended that and at every moment he

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has the opportunity to defend what he
believes, he does it without any kind

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of complex. I hardly ever agree
with the things he defends. We have

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agreed on a number of issues in
a timely manner, but at this point

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where we find ourselves on what the
debate begins, which is not what Sedeño

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said, what the progressive media in
the Dominican Republic has done to concentrate on

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what is in form and not in
substance. You have read article thirty-

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four, one hundred and thirty-
four and one hundred and thirty- five

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have published it in some way.
You' ve heard it, you'

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ve read it in its entirety.
You have had the chance to weigh whether

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what you are drawing attention to to
oppose him is part of the Member of

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Parliament makes sense. Not yesterday with
some friend, with Arturo Recio, did

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I get a copy of the bill
that by the way, no one finds

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it. I had two days and
I asked Adriana you' re the pdf.

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Around the back of the code,
because I wanted to read it,

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not a vague quote, in a
press release of the Senate or in a

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published news that vaguely. I wanted
to read the article, because I wanted

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to know what they are proposing,
what they have put in the article one

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hundred and thirty- four and one
hundred and thirty- five, which is

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what we must discuss. Not what
he said cedeño. What I say cedeño

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is the rambling of a mouth that
he probably didn' t measure. Which

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is how to express an example of
something that is problematic and we agree that

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we have all ate to make of
it, but none of us have read

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article one hundred and thirty- four
and one hundred and thirty- five and

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all that is derived from there and
below. I read it and what worries

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me about the article is, it' s just that it' s all

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the ambiguities this article has that could
mess up with a lot of problems,

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or only for men, also for
women. And on Monday I was talking

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about this desire, about the progress
of the Dominican progressive lesbo, that the

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state take care of your TV or
take care of or take care of issues

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that it does not have to take
care of and that it is about choosing

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him on issues that it is more
than clear that they are issues that no

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one will admit or defend. But
when you have an article that stays written

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in a way that stays the interpretation
of whoever wants to use it as a

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spearhead to sarar we are having a
composing that or a box of pandora that

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we don' t know is what
you want to express. I can imagine

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what the honourable Member wanted to say
and perhaps he did not know how to

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put it in the right way.
Bad for him, because there was a

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man, first very well trained and
second, who has been working as a

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legislator for quite a few years.
He should have better skills to be able

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to express more clearly perhaps the points
he wants to draw attention to, while

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PRM lesbians want the head of cedeño
and some MPs want him to apologize to

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Dominican women, because that is manicheism
manipulation. He has to apologize to the

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women, but he didn' t
offend the women. Or you, deputy,

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have the voice of all the women
of the Dominican Republic. No one

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' s given it to you.
You may have the voice of the party

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to which you belong or of the
group that voted for you, but you

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are neither yours nor yours and you
have to come to speak for all the

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magda women to you that authority has
been given to us by no one.

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So all the drool we' ve
read and seen in even personal attacks,

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as I said yesterday to someone,
I say is that this is the problem.

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I mean, you' re attacking
someone' s speech, but you

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' re personally attacking him and referring
to personal issues that you don' t

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know. As I told you,
to that good Twitter publicist friend who is

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now given a political scholar. So
what does article thirty- four say I

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' m going to read it carefully
for you to listen to and for the

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debate to release band- by-
seat and ask legislators why this is there

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and why it' s not better
worded. What' s important. Let

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' s hear article 34 of the
CODE draft, section 34 of the Penal

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Code draft. It says about rape. This section is the section on sexual

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rape and the insect article one hundred
and thirty- four. Sexual rape I

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will read carefully so that I will
not see without pause. It constitutes sexual

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rape. Any act of sexual penetration
perpetrated by one person against another, by

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the vagina, by the anus or
by the mouth, or by any other

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similar act, such as the introduction
of an object or part of the body

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by either of the first two channels
without consent, by violence, constriction,

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threat, surprise, deception or by
any other means that invalidates or nullifies the

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will of the victim or does not
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Sexual rape shall be punishable by 10
to 20 years' imprisonment and a fine

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of 20 to 30 minimum wages in
the public sector. The one hundred and

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thirty- five who, where the
conflict begins, says who, in a

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couple relationship, engages in non-
consensual sexual activity, will be punished with

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the penalties set out in article one
hundred and thirty- four, or in

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the following cases, if he has
used deception, force, violence, intimidation,

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threat or coercion, if he has
nullified consent, if he has nullified

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the consent of the victim, his
ability to resist with violence, intimidation,

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threat or action, with the use
or supply of narcotic drugs, psychotropic substances,

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chemicals or by any other means that
may cause such effects, if the

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victim is unable to understand the nature
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performed because of a mental illness or
disability, whether temporary or permanent, if

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he has forced or induced the couple
with physical or psychological violence, to participate

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or engage in an unwanted sexual relationship
with third persons, and finally, the

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paragraph of this article one hundred and
thirty- five. In no case is

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a child or adolescent considered to have
the capacity to consent to any type of

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sexual activity. And this is quite
clearly established in the Children' s Code,

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that the age of consent is from
adulthood, eighteen years, that is

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children and adolescents, conscious of being
with an adult. For there it raises

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essentially what it says in the article
begins by saying that in a relationship of

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couple engages in sexual activity not consented, it will be punished with the penalties

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set out in article one hundred thirty- four. And that' s what

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he was talking about, and when
the deputy sets the example, let'

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s say you' re giving your
wife manque and you' re taking off.

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The condom has not consented to it. You can get four or ten

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years in jail. The rest,
well, no, the rest falls off

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the kill and there' s also
the other part that' s good.

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Any other substance. Let' s
say that you have a drunk bar,

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you go with a drunk majan the
broad the other day you can say I

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was very drunk maje with him and
then you took advantage of my drunk education

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and bel tiger prisoner. And that' s not exclusive, nor would it

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be the Dominican Republic. This happens
in many countries. Then what' s

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the matter? So it is the
ambiguity of this article that makes it problematic.

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And I guess that' s where
he was going, but you'

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d heard it. The article.
I believe that from now on we can

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begin to discuss issues that are contained
in the article, which would be interesting

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to discuss. What I say a
genius is irrelevant to the chacha was the

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lynching of it and to consider it
an energy an irremediable male chauvinist and the

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worst, human lineage that can emerge
from any of our provinces as legislator.

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Maybe for that discussion and to prime
ourselves in hatred, in epithets, in

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disqualifications, in persecution, in lynching, maybe for that. What he said

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is very useful. And that'
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has focused on what he said today, what he denounces. Notice that there

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was no newspaper here that published the
article, nor any news. He hadn

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' t put it in its entirety, and no radio commentator read it here.

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What needs to be lynched to Eugene
because he made it easy for us

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not to forget the debate we have
to have about this shit, because this

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is what matters. I had a
day of myself that I don' t

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give a damn what the Member said. In the end, he has the

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right to say he wants you to
and you take it as you like.

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I want to read the article.
No, but I' m glad you

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said it and that aroused interest.
The problem is that here the interest it

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has aroused is interested in in inflating
it to exactly the others. There is

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a question he knows of lynching him, because lynching him distracts him from the

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actual discussion that is exactly and this
must be a subject of discussion. Let

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' s read the article, we' ll discuss it as an adult.

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If you want an article with such
ambiguous characteristics, very ambiguous characteristics. Now

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I' ve confused you. I
don' t know whether to report my

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urologist or not. Or that you
conscious, no, no, yes,

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I mean, you know anesthetism,
you know, you know the absurdity that

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you' ve carried feminism in some
countries that in England, for example,

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consent during sex must be continuous.
How it continues in the middle of sexual

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intercourse. I can take the consent
with the penis inside and say you'

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re raping me or I' m
going to justice. It opens a tax

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process they have to deal with that
and it said at what point and in

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what way, that is, continued
consent. If we read the article again,

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it has a lot of that,
well, or what characteristic or what

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must happen so that there is no
more consent or any nonsense that happens inside

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the bedroom. It is already a
matter of conflict and persecution. It can

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' t be that way, but
don' t go, it can'

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t be interpretive to an end that
you leave the court open for what'

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s clear. Lesbians, who are
enemies of men who push this to be

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included in the Penal Code, will
obviously say that one points this out because

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one is in favor of rape.
I think I' m going to have

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a lot that you' re in
favor of sexual violence and you' re

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going to distort to a point that
you' re going to say that you

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agree with husbands raping their wives.
Or the point of the absurdity that I

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saw a person who considered brilliant,
a great lawyer who said that a counter

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than a marriage act, is not
a woman' s property act. But

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we are starting from what the honourable
Member may have said. I want us

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to discuss what the damn article says, that that' s the problem here,

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not what it says, it'
s not what the attorney- in

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- law, who is a deputy, says, it' s also what

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the one hundred and thirty- five
and one hundred and thirty- four says.

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So, if you don' t
care about this and you want to

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keep blowing Eugenio Cedeño' s head, you have the freedom to do so,

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but let' s also deal with
this, which is what you are

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pointing out is problematic, and let' s ask ourselves then because he came

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to the conclusion that it was problematic. Lean, gentlemen peter A, that

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but in the United States we go
to every time reports of women who say

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that their husbands rape her and that
ah no, that I didn' t

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want to. And twenty years married
and you end up in a trial that

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ah because when I was married I
raped me that I didn' t want

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to have sex with him. Who
to the justice, to the impossibility of

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being able to establish or prove these
denunciations. He has to unload the defendants,

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because I' m also complex like
me exactly how I established that when

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I consented, give me very hard, but with condom and in use fifth

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you took it off and you gave
me the hair and you knocked me up

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and how I checked that certainly there
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swimming in a country where you just
have to invent that you totally laid my

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hand to put him in jail.
If you add him up, this is

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for me to get pregnant. He
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do with two. He took it
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s the example that was setting the
shot and I think maybe the running example,

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because maybe you don' t understand
how long we' re living in

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communication made it easy for your enemies, because the ceded MP has many enemies,

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because he is contrary to what the
new orthodoxy, to those who own

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the truth and what of the absolute
truth in the Dominican Republic they consider as

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an irrefutable truth or fact is that
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No. What happens is that he, he spoke the easy, He

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spoke perhaps ugly, but if he
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now, that would have passed that
clear persorption, but also what has an

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important part. There because yesterday I
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the SETI and they seemed more like
the way you watch the movies of the

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time of the Holy Inquisition look for
you to understand a chinge. This is

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what we' re working on in
the media and the one who wants to

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do an interviewer who reads the Hammer
of the Witches. That book is a

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very old book and if you don' t want it, I' ll

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find out. There' s a
summary of the book. I have an

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idea, but you can' t
take some people to an interview and to

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every question, you snoop it and
you condition what you want, that he

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says, it doesn' t seem
honest to me. You may have your

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schedule, but you also have to
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you' re scathing him, because
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re taking the interviewee to that listener
who' s going, to that couple

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that the interviewee isn' t telling
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And that' s dishonest, it
looks like me. But in the

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case of article one hundred and thirty- four and one hundred and thirty-

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five, I am not a lawyer, but I believe that the debate there

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must be so that lawyers can read
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light and in the eyes of all
citizens and that we can interpret issues that

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are problematic in the drafting of this
two articles that are and must be in

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the interest of people, because it
would be clear, directly, to become

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more problematic of the relationship between men
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it is also good for one to
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You know why Julian Assanche fell prisoner
Liangasas took a broad and had a

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consensual sexual relationship. Then the broad
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I changed my mind. He did
things to me about sex that I

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didn' t want and Julian Aseans
is being brought to justice You go running

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to England in Sweden and get it
unloaded He goes to prison in England and

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ends up in Ecuador' s embassy
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and these days he ended up in
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This is the case of Julián Sanchez. They used this case for that

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pod. In Canada there are similar
laws, but a radio announcer named Gian

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Gomechi, who had a relationship with
an employee violating what laws and his contract

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established that he could not fraternize with
subordinates or co- workers, and he

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gave him extremely hard. But Gian
Gometchi had a particular one and liked violent

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sex and these ladies consented to violent
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He went to trial and was unloaded. Justice said here there were two adults

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who consented to her after a break- up because she fell in love with

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the guy denounces him the foot of
his work. He lost his career and

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has not been able to make up
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They know doubt of Giango Metchi,
one of the most important and famous speakers

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in Canada. He worked at CBC
on the night of Indian descent and in

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the State of the United States,
such as California. There are similar laws,

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which is continuous consent. I explain
to myself that as long as there

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are coheres and sex there must be
continuously. You must have verbalized that you

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agree, if you' re there. If at one point we say we

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agree and I say at one point
I don' t want to be here,

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I can prosecute you for having that
I know you there. That'

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s trouble. That' s also
complicated everything and drunkards, let' s

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not talk good about drunks, let' s not talk about it, there

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' s a lot of ambiguity in
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that and if we agree that it' s okay, because it' s

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okay and if you understand, we
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But not what the deputy said.
I' m irrelevant. I will

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give an example, in the example
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Kingdom consent must be continuous and may
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The law provides that if one person
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continues, as I have just said, it is considered a violation. However,

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there are no explicit provisions on withdrawal
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in Canada, recognizing that consent must
be active and continuous. Which is active

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and continuous. If you keep giving
me, I want you to give me.

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I agree that you give me,
that I am with active and continuous

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feeling. A follow, follow,
follow, follow, follow, no,

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no, no. I' m
three stitches. You have to ask in

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most of these countries that they have
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Finally, it says that in most
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countries that consent must be continuous.
He can be removed at any time during

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sexual intercourse. If the consent is
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it is considered sexual assault or rape
complex topics. Sometimes I was with

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him at one point I said no. He kept ejaculating me and I didn

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' t agree anymore. She'
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filing a rape complaint with you.
Then you have to hire a lawyer falls

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express. Then you have to find
out how to prove yourself if it'

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s true that you' re evading
or. This evo, because it applies

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to same- sex and lesbian couples, is also equal. Sometimes it says

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proof if this jeb really doesn'
t look at me. I' m

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not too complicated, I' m
too troublesome. That' s the center

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of the discussion. But for example, the example you set of Julian.

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There' s no Chian Gomech,
there' s one of the women who

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were coming to us that said I
don' t know what their producer was

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like. They had a secret courtship
relationship. The guy liked it, violent

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sex with orrhoea. I' ll
give you a spanking, but I agreed.

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I don' t like that,
you don' t hate it,

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but there are people who like that
sex and he liked it. She consented

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to all and justice that said well
that you agreed. You know Alberto,

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sometimes now they can' t come
with the excuse that they felt mistreated,

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because they could have said before they
got to bed with this man, when

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they agreed to do all this,
that you didn' t want to participate

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in that kind of sex. But
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or those conditions and with that agreement. What fucks up is that this women

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' s club realizes that this guy
who is what those who had no intention

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of committing to them and the producer, who was very much in love with

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him for revenge, denounce him from
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is the Canadian public television station and
then submit it to him. You see

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yourself at the farthest end until the
case has been found out. You have

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an ugly big league mess. Gian
Gometchi had to leave Canada. He moved

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to New York and I think he
lives from being uber. He was very

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rich. He had a lot of
money, he had a lot of money

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on the CBC, but he doesn' t live in Canada many years ago.

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Conspiracy theories that say population control sometimes
don' t sound so crazy.

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When you see where society is going, you put a partner in there Well,

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there it is. Ticle one hundred
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That' s the argument. Not
if the Member said what he said

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and that a group of bitter lesbians
who neither husband has that husband have feel

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offended by what I say in a
way that runs over the Member. It

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is the article at the center of
the debate, not what the Member said,