Oh yeah, welcome back to Calling All beings. I'm your host DJ here
on a Tuesday night, And let me tell you something. We got no
doctor Jeff Crepel. We got no money, man, but I'll tell you
what we do have. We got a study of UAPs. The co host
of this joint one of the original gangsters, and that is Debs. Good
evening, Debs, why did you tell everyone about my ginkster lifestyle? Now
the secret is out. Sorry I should have kept it on the d L
And you know what we found out last time, Deb after our last shows,
that we have a volleyball gangster up and here be raking people in the
grill and doing all kinds of craziness up at the up at the net.
And I'll tell you what. She's an academian herself, gonna she's working on
that pH d O double G. And I'll tell you what. She's kind
of a regular up in this joint, and that is Courtney Marcussonne. Get
it man with the crew and now back for a second appearance, not just
for a question or two, not just to pump his show. All things
unexplained, But that is my man from North Carolina, who right now is
visiting us from Roswell, who shows that he's in the game. He's just
not playing with you people. He's spending his money to go out and do
some investigation sn and that is my man, the host of all things unexplained,
afore mentioned doctor Tim Mouse. Thanks so much, so I'm really trying
to up my UFO's free cred. I am broadcasting live from Rosville, New
Mexico right now, So shout out to the Stellar Coffee Company where I'm at
right now, right in the heart of downtown Rosville, for host to me.
And also one more shout out to the International UFO Museum and Research Institute
here in Roswelle. They were really gracious and kind to me today let me
do a lot of research, and I really appreciate them so so much.
So good to be back. Thanks so Ray and Tim. Do you attribute
that to your body fat content or the hair? Dude? Why do you
think that they've been so welcoming? I attributed to the mounds and sirs I
were tossing around like just like free, like yes ma'am, yes, sir,
Like here's your free ma'am, here's your free sir. And it's just
like hey, whatever you want it's your let's do this. So it's it's
not the veins in Tim's bicep, and it's not his cowboy boots which I
saw when I went and visited with him. They're awesome, but yeah,
it's just his overall personality in Southern Charm, Mississippi's own former educator and current
I guess college administrator of some sort. It's top secret, though we can't
talk about it anyway, that's right. I have to comment about how amazing
that research area is in that museum, though it is file after file after
file, like they're organized by who it comes from, is amazing, Stuffy,
I'll give you a great example. So I wanted to know if they
had anything on Art Campbell because I picked up a great book called Finding the
UFO Crash at San Augustine, and it's by one Art Campbell, and I
need to know more about R. Campbell. It's just a few button clicks.
She's like, Okay, let me go pull some files, and she
brings back this file of nineteen seventies and eighties UFO magazines with R. Campbell
in them somewhere. So I thought that was pretty amazing, good good stuff.
Tim I'm glad they're treating you well. We're gonna want to hear tomorrow
after you go out in the field with unknown persons. But uh, before
we get into all that, you know what, let me hand it over
to Debs to throw some topics and then we'll go to Courtney and then we'll
go to Tim. So go ahead, deb man, What's what's going on?
What's on your min Okay, So the thing that's on my mind right
now is it this. There's this kind of feeling of I want to say
stagnation, but concern that but stagnation. Yeah, okay, so there's concern.
And if you see, like I still I'm not on so media as
much as I was. I'm kind of taking a step back for a little
bit. But I've noticed that most of the posts that are from the UFO
community have turned into something else. They're on other topics right now, So
I feel like, until something else happens, like a lot of people are
just kind of waiting, and I guess I'm one of them. So I
don't know how everyone else feels about that, but I just wanted to throw
that out there. The overall feel of the community has shifted a little bit.
So who wrote that song, Courtney, waiting on the World to Change?
I can I don't know. That's not coming to mind. I remember
the song. I remember how those in the world to change. There you
go, tam from near Elvis Presley the singer. Was he the one the
first sang it? No, it's much more, much more recent song.
It just so happens that Tim is from Mississippi, and who knows, maybe
he's not far from Tupelo, where Elvis is from. But anyway, I
digress, please waiting for something? Do you feel like this is a malaise
Courtney? What do you feel like the state of the of the as Nathan
called the state of the onion is right now? Yeah, I feel that
deb has just got her finger on the pulse. She's picking up what everybody
else is feeling, which is this anti climactic thing since the hearing that we're
all waiting for, you know, the next hearing or the next big move
to happen, and we're all being told there's this still water right the undercurrent,
but there's really big stuff happening. But I you know, I think
back to when I started getting into this back in you know, twenty fifteen
and sixteen, and there wasn't really anything going on. So I'm like,
this is actually pretty big stuff. So I know there's going to be more
big stuff. And I keep thinking about how we always kept hearing something's going
to drop, something BIG's going to drop, and you always just felt like
it was nothing. So I think that this time that we're in right now
is actually pretty exciting. And uh, and I think there's more. I
think there's more coming. I'm sure we're going to talk about it. I
was disappointed to see Sean Kopatrick's article and Scientific American because he's just not scientific,
he's just he's just so, he's just so negative and he just negates
the whole body of evidence that's been given. And so I am disappointed with
that today. Yes, very crestfallen. Oh I love that word. It's
a thing accord. When the best word of the show is crust fallen,
I love it. I have to say I have to throw out there that
Jeremy Purbell did say that something with crush is going to come that's bigger than
the opaid, and I just feel like that's still a lot going on.
One person. I would like other people to come out, and that's one
of the things I'm waiting for. But I want to hear are other people's
opinions. Of course op ed to me sounds like moped, but without the
m I'm sorry, I guess that's not worthy. You've come to impressive,
dah man. This is a stitch back to someone trying to teach you to
say. Was it Jeff teaching how to say claude patamen? So it was
lovely? I'm sorry, all right, I'm going to try to get serious
here and talk to UFOs because I'm having too much fun and it's just uncalled
for. So yeah, I mean so that we have so many, you
know, illusions in that Jeremy and George are always alluding to the next thing
is going to happen, and you know, it's quite possible that it is.
It's just it's kind of like the phenomenon where it's not going to happen
on a timeline that is necessarily acceptable to us. And boy Debs, we
had conversations about this way back when Grush came out. Is that we're waiting
for someone to come along and offer not only moral support, but to support
his argument and his assertions. With some of their own. So they threw
out those you know, those little you know, they sort of threw out
those daggers there as far as alluding to a mental health crisis that basically just
happened because his friend died, and that he's autistic, and you know,
like, I'm like, wait a minute, what's what's the problem with his
testimony? I'm missing it because he was able to maintain a TSSCI clearance with
SBI and multiple polygraphs and was you know, had access could have been read
into, you know, something like three thousand programs. So so yeah,
obviously they didn't think it was enough of an issue to read him out and
send him on his way, but obviously it was enough to scare other people
from wanting to do the same, because they know, if you have something
in your background. So Bob Lazar comes to mind, right, Okay,
strip club. You know, the guy you know's an engineer and on his
own time likes to go to a strip club and see girls and maybe get
lop dances. Oh my god. He obviously you know that person well.
But there may be individuals that don't want that information in the public sector,
and that's what would happen if they came forward. So that's that's my take.
Tim, did have you gone yet? Go ahead, sir, I
have not gone. So I'm actually going to address this from a different point
of view when it's not turned. But I did feel like there is a
general sense of apathy and society right now, and I don't really know how
that's going to change or what it's going to take. And I'll give you
a great So you have someone like Diana Pisilka, right, She's literally as
high level of an academic as you could get, and we just had her
on our show, but as respected of as an academic as you can get.
She literally says, Hey, someone from the government took me and this
other scientist from Stanford out in the desert of New Mexico, somewhere maybe the
plains of Santa Augustine, and we dug up parts from a UFO crash retrieval
site. General society, general population doesn't even blink an eye at this,
And I think that's pretty telling, because you know, you can't really get
more of a bona fide witness than Diana Pasilka, And so what is it
going to take to make people blink and I you know, I've heard this
SERI that people are becoming one technology, like we're merging with technology and it's
causing us to really, you know, just to lose sense of our surroundings
and really not even care. So I don't know what it's going to take,
but I feel you. I think there's a lot of empathy out there.
You know what I keep remembering. I keep remembering when lu said,
if you have other hobbies, go for that hobby. I think is the
quote, go get a hobby and come back right And I'm like, you
know what, I am doing that right now. I'm going to sit back
and wait because I think putting pressure on certain people isn't going to benefit us
with this topic, right It's it's not going to make it go faster,
and it is a slow, bureaucratic process happening behind the scenes. But regarding
the apathy issue, you know, I think that is a an overall issue.
I think as a mental health professional, I see a lot of children,
for instance, are really suffering still from having gone through that pandemic,
and it's just been an overall ripple effect. So you know, on the
one hand, we're just like normalizing this conversation in society, the Nhai conversation
is kind of normalized at this point for some people. And then on the
other hand, people are like, yeah, but I just got to trudge
through life right now. We need like some sunshine or something to make everyone
just feel better and more excited about the universe. So, Courtney, what
do you think Tim mentioned AI would love to, you know, do a
whole round on that, but without setting any sort of a table. What's
your thoughts? Man, could I could just drop something huge right now?
And I think I probably will, just because you know, this is only
my second appearance I'm helping, so I might as well just go ahead and
shake it up. But you know, I know people in Silicon Valley who
are in that world, and I did hear just yesterday, And this is
just so incredible that there is a there's a guy out in Silicon Valley who
he won a Nobel and he's developing a chip, an organic chip, to
merge with AI and it goes beyond you know, neuralink and what Elon has
done. So I think that that is a sobering I think that is a
sobering thing if true. I mean they're getting the money behind it right now.
And the interesting or novel part of it that I thought was important for
research is that because these chips are you know, so going to be so
scarce right because of mining and getting them and the power that's required to use
them for something like neuralink, they're looking at other options like this organic this
organic type of chip. Now I don't know how it works, and I
want to know more, but I know that it's going in that direc and
that the progenitor of the whole thing, his philosophy is, you know,
mankind two point zero, and so I think that my own opinion is like,
I want to have personal sovereignty over my body and not be necessarily pushed
into that whole world. But I know it's going that way, and that
scares me. It actually scares the heck out of me. And I'm all
for technology, but if that gets developed, I think it's going to bring
a whole bunch of questions for humanity about AI and merging with it. That
that was going to be My next question was just that you already kind of
answered it, but I'll probably dig a little bit. But let me say
hello, Hello, Oh okay, my wife's saying stop clapping. I need
to sleep. I want to say hello to Lou. Lou. How's it
going, brother. We haven't spoke to you a long time, but I
hope you and Jennifer and the kids are doing really well. So glad thank
you for for tuning in as well as everybody else tuning in the cab.
William from Scotland, what's up? Brother? Just let you know William coming
up. We're having in England Ireland's Scotland Roundtable on a Saturday. I believe
it's April third, so tune in for that. I think you know who
will be representing Scotland, Andy Grillan. But we're also gonna have Rob Sheridan
from Ireland, and we're going to have a panoply of British brothers and sisters.
So but Courtney, yeah, I did study that, like my final
year when I graduated with my bachelor's which was not all that long ago,
I put AI is one of the things I wanted to study, and I
went to a lot of thought leaders from Elon to Jan Talin who developed Skype,
and there were several others that the names are probably escaping me now.
I'm sure I have them in the papers and my archives what I wrote about
it, But some of them were at Georgia Institute of Technology, where you
know they had taught. I think it was a Navy DARPA project, ironically,
something Debs and I were talking about earlier, where they wanted to teach
two robots to be able to fool one another to play hide and seek,
And so the deceptive aspect of it scared the professor that was teaching it in
They wrote an article in one of the engineering magazines about it because he said,
well, what, how do you know that your personal robot won't decide
to do something like that? So I thought it was kind of frightening.
So listening with me, well to say nothing crazy, I might. I
could go on and on about the AI technology that's coming out, but I
just really like to point out to people that this is not new stuff.
DARPA worked on it at least six years ago. Back in the day.
They didn't use the small devices like they're doing now, which by the way,
was kind of a copy from a competitor for Neurlink. Just got to
throw that out there. They used an attachment, right, and that how
they used the brain computer interface so the thing like putting chips inside our body
and all that, that's not new technology. And if anyone researches it for
just a few minutes, they're going to find out it's older than they think,
and that means that it's further along than we think. Hey, Deb,
I would like to ask you, and then I'm going to go to
Tim on this. I know this isn't UFO centric, so forgive me everybody.
We'll try to dial it back into UFOs. And there is you know
there because doctor Kreipel who was going to be our guest, and I actually
did speak about that, and he's going to be on with us, by
the way, April eighth, So Monday, April eighth, doctor Kreipel will
will join us, but he's in uh he's in Texas, in Dallas this
weekend or this week So, Deb, is there something about AI that you
fear? What are your personal feelings about the possibilities of a developed sort of
strong AI or AGI. Well, personally, I don't fear it. I
find it fascinating. I love to explore what's going on, Like robots is
one of those hobbies I was talking about when I said, you know,
looking at other hobbies. Believe it or not, I have a whole closet
full of robots, so I would like to see improvements in development. I
made a chat bought back in the day, so I understand what's going on
with the large language models. But what's happening is they're evolving it to something
else. In fact, the most recent one was the one that can create
videos, and basically you give it some text commands and it creates actual videos.
The thing is, though, and I'll just throw ou I don't want
to give away too much about some of this research Jesse yet, but i'll
just throw out if you combine what they're doing with AI with a whole bunch
of companies together, and then combine what they're doing with something where they're trying
to replicate the human brain with computers, and you put those two together,
you're going to see something that thinks a lot faster than us, has a
lot more information than us. And if they do improve they've talked about improving
the energy power source for these things, right, it's going to be like
a human with a bajillion memories. Okay, So that could scare some people.
I won't lie. That might be scary. The only thing that really
does scare me about it, though, is the fact that they want to
weaponize it. They always want to weaponize these things, and they already have
autonomous drones. They're already working on swarms of drones that work together that are
AI. So that's the scary part. I'm not appreciating that. I appreciate
us not wanting to lose service people. I get it, but it's just
kind of scary because I could go wrong, very wrong, very sky in
it. So you said you don't fear deps, But to be fair,
the list of things that scare you we have so far are ghosts and restaurant
bathrooms, and I can't think of it. I can't think of anything else.
So you're not really the right person. Let me go to somebody who
may have real fear, who shares in the fears of Courtney and I,
someone we can commiserate here with doctor Tim Mounts. Well, Hey, so
I do fear what Courtney was talking about. I think it's really disturbing.
I'll give you a little teaser into some things that CJ and I have been
looking into. Some people believe that, you know, Diana Psilka has said
that, you know, these crashes are perhaps gifts or donation. Okay,
Well, the implication here is, all right, they gave us technology,
what did we give them? And did we give them the green light for
abductions? And if you look into the abduction phenomenon and biotechnology, we literally
have advanced biotechnology that was first derived from space with no other explanation. Okay,
there's some disturbing trends here. And I was reminded that indeed, these
implants have been around a lot longer than we've known about as I was touring
the UFO Research Museum today. Sure enough, how long have people been getting
abducted and coming back and telling stories of implants in their bodies? So this
is a scary phenomenon. I think it's a my big coincidence that we are
seeing evolving technology with implants and AI and all this other biotic And is there
a link between the abduction phenomenon and UFO crashed tribles. I don't know,
but I'm afraid we're going to find out. Can I throw out you know,
one thing, one thing I know about my friend Tim is he hates
conspiracy theories. Hate some Right now, I'm just kidding, Okay, So
so let's let's let's let's dive right into this then, deb if you don't
mind, uh, Staff Sergeant Dan Sherman and his book way above Black and
so if anybody out there is looking for it, it's on good Reads.
I think it's like seven dollars or something on good Reads. The book is
sixty pages, so uh, you know, Tim could probably read that while
he's in the shower. That that few pages, right, But what I
want to talk about is that supposedly there was a program with the USAF and
the NSA to train people to communicate with the phenomenon. And I hate to
spoil the book for you, but the actual purpose of it is more important
than keeping it a secret, because really you would want to read it to
get the details about how he got into the program, why he showed up
at Elinz School and then at Fort Mead and then so on and so forth,
and says that he was trained to communicate with ets. He eventually figured
out that there were abductions involved in this, at least that's what he thought,
or that's what he was led to believe, because he was being given
coordinates by the entity he was intuitively communicating with the computer terminal that he was
using, I think like nineteen ninety two for a timeframe of where computers were
at. There was that sort of technology, and there was a box that
would appear on his screen, and what he was given, intuitively a set
of forward slashes numbers and then more forward slashes. At the end of the
communication, he would type that into a window. He didn't know where that
information was going, and he won't even offer a guess as to where it
was going, but he believed that they were coordinates. And I guess his
communication with the entity had something to do with abductions. So who goes So
let's go to deb and then go to Courtney and back to Tim. Please.
It's interesting because it sort of ties into what I was going to comment.
I was going to say that some people say that the entities are AI,
right, that they are some kind of biogenetic AI, and which would
make sense because if you're like a species, you'd probably want to send that
We would. We're working on that right now, by the way, we're
trying to make robots to send into space. And if they are you're saying,
like electromagnetic technology and all that so it just kind of goes in line.
This is a very technological connection as far as like the abductions, you
know, it's so weird. The thought that went through my head was how
many did we abduct? Like, you know, like how many have we
taken and kept? Great and like humanity has abducted many many people, right,
so we're so judging you about this, but we do this, Like
I've watched documentary after documentary one of my other hobbies about people doing these kinds
of things and people going after them. So I don't know, I just
I think there's a lot to think about with that. I don't approve of
abducting. Obviously, it's not a good thing at all. It's damaging,
it's traumatic. There's other ways if you want to interact with humanity that would
be better. I don't no, I don't know. That's two cents on
that. I was just want to say, hi Ava, and welcome back.
We haven't seen you in a little bit, but welcome back to the
cab. Welcome, and Secdoyd and Shelley welcome. Yeah. And it also
I want to throw out there before I give to you Courtney, that I
hadn't shared this with you. I thought I was supposed to share it with
you last week. But the alien interview that was done, it was allegedly
filmed in nineteen ninety one out at the Area fifty one site at S four
supposedly, and I watched that the way it was filmed, and I watched
Victor, and I believe that's I believe that's a legitimate, absolutely, a
legitimate U interview with a with an alien. I believe Victor's legitimate. But
anyway, take it away, Courtney on anything that you want to discuss about
that, Well, was that the Inside Edition one that I mentioned? I
mentioned an Inside Edition video that was laked and it had the Navy across the
bottom. Okay, I just wanted to I just wanted to get clarity if
it was the same video. So when I heard when I heard, I
heard this, uh you know this new chip that's organic, right, the
first thing I thought of, I just wanted to de validate doctor Mounce because
the first thing that went through my mind intuitively, I was thinking, is
this connected to implants? You know? It was such a like agerant thought
that came into my mind. It was it was so far afield of what
was actually being talked about in that context. I thought that was an interesting
thought. And I'm not conspiracy minded either. I want to find facts and
fact patterns that, you know, go and make evidence that you have evidence
when you don't really have it, or you know, historical evidence and documentation
of things. So when he said it to me, I thought, oh,
I wonder if this explains telepathy. I wonder if explained some of the
sigh and the precognitions and so some of that. I have never conceived that
these actual Sieh abilities might have been related to that. I never considered it,
but I absolutely considered it when he said it. It was like my
first thought. So, yeah, it has been around around a long time.
Deb and I wonder were some of those medals, right, you know
the doctor lear stuff which we saw, you know, patients having medals being
taken out. I wonder if some of that wasn't repurposed and given to Darba.
I don't know, it's just a thought. I think. The second
thing about the Dan Sherman story that is so profound is how his mom was
identified before he went into the recruitment. So there was also recruitment because he
was an experiencer and it was a genetic thing. And so that's another thing
that stands out to me about his story is that there's recruiting going on,
and you know, Kit Green talks about this. He talked about it in
Third Eye Spies that there was a recruitment program and they can't get away with
doing that today what they did back then. And I actually contacted the filmmaker
and I was like, what exactly was he talking about in those army recruitments
and how are they recruiting you know, the size spies. So that's another
thing that comes to mind when we think about Dan Sherman and how he got
recruited. And I guess the third thing would be is this was brought up
to me, And it's another thing I never conceived of about possible implants is
the domain you know, that was taken out of the NDAA there at the
end before it was signed and went through. And it never occurred to me
that people who had actually had implants that were taken out, you know,
that's eminent domain as well. So if all that metal was taken out and
ended up somewhere else, you know, that's a patient's actual metal that might
be either by their doctor or for patient, you know, health, especially
with anomaloist health incidences. So I think there's a lot connected with this,
with AI and all of it, and I think that we're just seeing little
pieces of it emerging and it's up to us really to try to figure it
out. But I think it's very difficult to try to get the whole picture
obviously. Yeah, and I had a discussion with a future guest also coming
on as Bob Pliskin on Twitter. You guys know him as Sean Munger.
He's former Marine Corps intel. He is a lawyer, a government lawyer,
got himself through law school later on in life. Just an absolute tiger for
disclosure and as an advocate. And we talked about whether or not that was
a lark putting that eminent domain clause in there. I don't know that anybody
can quite say, but it seems like a lark to me. It seems
like you would put that in there if you didn't want it to pass,
because anybody with even the slightest, most rudimentary knowledge of the climate, the
socio political climate of the United States would know that that's a non starter.
So you wouldn't put that in there if you wanted the legislation to pass.
You can surmise about it, but that's all I'll say about that. But
I did want to ask you one follow up, Courtney, before we go
to Tim and relative to AI, is it fair that we could assume that
an intelligence such that visits the planet is far more advanced in AI than we
are in twenty twenty four? Would you agree with that? Here's the part
about it where I always go back to the six layer model, that paper
about incommensurability that Jacques Filabro the dip again with the cornships there. That's one
of my favorite cornerstone papers to go back to because they lay stuff out there
about the whole anthropomorphizing, you know, this machine or the AI models that
are being used. I think that we make that leap, we make that
leap that it's advanced, We make that jump that it's advanced. I think
you have to go back to the military witnesses. That's always what I do,
is they're saying it's advanced. Now there's this whole new thing coming out
that the tic TAC at the Nimetz was our teach, right, I mean,
did you guys it just came out this week though that they're challenging some
of the witness testimonies saying that and but the but the point is they're saying
it's so far advanced. So I always have trouble with that, reconciling,
you know, obviously associating you know, the AI with being so advanced.
So there, there's there are several reasons why that. So first of all,
people that had inside knowledge that did all the investigation on that. One
of them is in the chat Louel Zondo said that it wasn't our tech.
Christopher Mellon, who was pretty low position under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence,
which is just below the cabinet level. Then you have David Fraver, who
Jeremy Corbel has sent these guys on the cab chat. It's an interview that
Jeremy Corbel did where someone was trying to assert to Dave Fraver that it could
be our our technology, and Dave said, yeah, not only was a
witness to the event and got in a dogfight and the craft literally disappeared in
front of him. Literally, that's what Alex Dietrich told us. It didn't
zoom away, it disappeared. So that's a B is he said, if
you knew the position I hold right now, you wouldn't try to sell me
that. So there is not, and with my knowledge of flight, there
is no. You would have to have a very very significant witness convinced me
that that's our technology, which would take me in, you know, forty
five minutes that I'm not going to waste on this show because no one really
cares about aviation and aerospace. But that's not our tech, and I would
someone that says it is. I'll bet my life against theirs. That's how
sure I am that that's not. I'm to have no independent knowledge that I'm
glad you rebuttaled because one of the things that I always say was, look,
the things were raining down, they showed up at the you know,
at the rendezvous point. It wasn't even discussed. It had, you know,
some kind of some kind of advanced knowledge of where they were going to
be. So yes, I do think so, because those different facts show
that it's obviously way more advanced than that was my That was actually, though,
my preparatory question, which I got to give to Tim because he'll never
talk to me again if I don't get him in this conversation. So I'm
gonna have to come back to you. But the reason I asked about the
AI is what I was going to say to you. So maybe what I'll
do is I'll ask you this, Tim, and then I'll just ask everybody
to react to this, and then I'll just, you know, just turn
everybody loose so that you could just talk about whatever you feel like, because
that's what you should be doing. Anyway. What do you think AI can't
do, Tim, Well, do you main our AI or do you mean
the phenomenon? I mean, I mean from what we know, because we
can only surmise, you know, we I think our leaders in tech have
better projections of where we can take it. Then where then we you know,
we're just guessing having fun talking about what they do with it. I'll
put it this way. I've been told by someone who works in that realm
that we would be truly shocked if we knew what the military and others had
the capability of doing. And he gave an example of this that this is
a reality that they do have the AI. That if you remember the old
X Man cartoon from the nineties, and they had the training room right where
they would go in and it would simulate battles for the X Men. Trying
to remember what they called that. Well, imagine walking into a facility,
right and you open the door and you walk in, and you see an
experience whatever it's programmed to be inside of there, everything in three dimensions with
the other people. You know. It came out the other day. Oh
and similar to the holiday right on Star Trek. We can do that now,
That's what I've been told. It came out in public the other day
that that AI can analyze the wireless signals in any facility and literally determine the
people that are in there and all their postures and locations in the room based
on dog a little while ago. I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, based
on how the wireless signals are moving and bouncing around the room. That was
revealed to the public. So to answer your question, I'm not sure what
AI can't do, but I think that we would be terrified if we knew
what all we could do. I agree, but I okay, So no,
it's Testino. I like AI. I like to look into it,
you know, because I'm looking forward to my future companion robot obviously, so
so one thing that it's having a problem with, you guys are laughing,
but I'm serious. I really want one. Yeah. So one thing it's
really having a problem with is learning, and that's why I was mentioning those
neuromorphic computers. So they wanted to learn on its own, and it's not
quite there yet. Like, there is a robot that's been in service for
years, and a lot of these projects are by private robot companies of course,
and others are by universities. That's really important to pay attention to,
by the way, universities. But AnyWho, So they're trying to teach this
robot to learn things on its own, and that is like so simple for
us as humans because we just teach our young and they learn and they continue
there. They've had to find ways to teach robots and a lot of what
they're doing is doing the action for them and then providing the robot with the
data set because it really isn't learning on its own per se yet. So
that's one thing that it's not quite there yet. What can't AI do,
Courtney, Well, I know it lies. I was back in Pennsylvania and
I was listening to a local radio station about this local author and he asked
Ai. It was one of the chats because he's the writer and so he's
using it to do research. He asked it about Leonore going to Mars as
you know, this thought experiment, and the AI just starts lying. You
know about this Edgar Allambo this, you know, this this story that's been
around forever, and AI just starts going off the cuff. And so I
learned a lot about it because I didn't know AI could just be so you
know, forthright and open about lying and so it just makes stuff up.
And so I didn't realize that. I thought it actually had to like check
and proof. So I learned something about that. But one of the things
that I think humans do, and this has come up in our discussion tonight,
is feel compassion. You know, feel compassion. I'm not sure that
you can give a machine necessarily, even AI with this advance. It is
that felt sense of what it is to be human. Maybe maybe, But
I do think that we have an advantage because we're human and we have empathy
and compassion built in. Can I follow up even if you don't use the
word compassion and you just cut it off as feel sure we feel because because
they you, I can't explain to you what a feeling is because we don't
we don't we don't know what it is. We just know that that we
emote, you know, like I've told these guys, you know, you
go to like for for people that we were sort of teenagers when I was
born. You know, it might have been going to see the Beatles and
they would cry and stuff, and me going to you too in the eighties
when I was a high school kid and watching people tier and the emotion.
And I think we could take an AI robot and we could sit them next
to me at you two, and we could program it to tear up when
I start to tear up, you know, we can. We can program
the robot and when you see DJ do this, and when he goes like
that and when you start to see this liquid coming down his face, you
do the same thing. But I don't think. I think the reason that
the phenomenon some of them have come and wanted to extract this biological material to
mix in with their machinery so they can hybridize it in some way is because
they don't know how to feel. So they know we know how to feel,
so if they can add that in, it can maybe change their birth
rate, and you know, who knows what. I can only surmise.
But the only thing I can think of is what we what we have?
What we can can't explain how we do it. We just do it.
I don't know what a feeling is. It just it's a feeling. Okay,
what's a feeling? Well, I can't explain it to a robot what
a feeling is. You could have an AI. I can't say, oh,
well, a feeling is when you feel something. Okay, what's that?
Well, I don't know. I just but I think they know what
it is. I think they value that. So I think that's what a
I can't do at this at least if I were to try to find a
reason why they would want to take human biology and extract it from a man
or a woman and then return them back to Earth, like maybe they did
with Dan Sherman's mom. So if I don't want to scare you too much,
DJ, But one of the things that DARPA was working on was impacting
and this ties back to what was said earlier, impacting people with mental health
issues with implants in the brain by signaling into the brain. So again like
they're involving technology to impact feelings. I think it's good that you brought that
up. When I went to look for this organic thing, this this chip
debt. That was one of the things in the research papers that I found
that they wanted to work with people with autism on social emotional reactions to help
them. So I hadn't thought of that connection either, but you just brought
it up. Can I reverse that? Though? So the problem is not
that they can interact with our brain and make us feel, because we can
already feel. The problem is if we can take us and make a machine
feel. That's the challenge is the opposite of that. No, I just
somebody I think. I just think we have to be real careful here.
And what something Courtney said brought up a memory. She talked about how Aila
is and and it does like can everybody hear me, yes, sir.
But it reminded me of something that Jacques Vallet said. Jacques Ballet said,
you know, he wasn't sure what the phenomenon was, but he was sure
of one thing that it deceives us. The phenomenon is a deceiver. And
so you may as you could call that lie. And so I think there's
an analogy or similarity to be drawn between the phenomenon and AI and the fact
that they both deceive us. They are both lying to us, and so
we need to be very careful what we think and what we think is being
revealed to us. I want to circle back real quick on the TIC text.
By the way, if you want a good analysis of the TIC tax
situation, just google Kevin Kanuuth. He's a physicist. Kevin Kanuth paper on
the TIC TACs in the Knemits and you can see a physics study and let
the physics and the mathematics tell you whether what you should think about it,
and let that lead the way. The entire war Earth level of energy required
to propel it. I don't remember the altitude you know, at that velocity
to propel it up to like eighty thousand feet once would have been like the
entire Earth's worth of energy. There's many Like I said, there are many
many reasons why. But it man, it's kind of like it's very difficult
for people to understand that because they if you don't understand flight and what is
involved in flight, then you can see something and say, oh, sure
we could do that, because you don't understand what conventional flight. What it
takes to make an airplane or a helicopter hover is an incredibly energy consumptive process.
For any rotary wing aircraft, which is what the FA defines as a
helicopter, is a rotary wing because what you're seeing are not fan blades like
the in your fan at your house. They're actually shaped like wings that create
their own lift. Irrespective of the fact that you have a collective that will
then pitch those blades again, it's too much to get into because there's just
too much involved in it. I wouldn't waste the time other than to tell
you that if someone says that is a US, a Russian or a Chinese
tech, I'll say, okay, bring the arbiter of truth. I'll bet
my life against yours. And no one's gonna take me up on that bet
because they know they don't that they won't have then either that or they're just
a fool. So anyway, let's let's go with topics that you guys want
to talk about. Tim you've got something, you're you're either scolding one of
your children, go ahead, going now, going out, get out of
here, no kids with me and rosa. But I wanted to circle back
on Dead's topic earlier, and I was going to take it from a different
point of view. So there's some current news, breaking news today that the
from FOIA. Okay, so the Air Force just released via FOYA some more
information on this Air Force encounter over the Gulf of Mexico and there were four
UAPs involved. One of them was similar in shape and size to an Apollo
craft. It was illuminated at the bottom, It was moving incredibly fast.
It jammed our systems. The pilot one of the pilots managed to get a
screenshot of this object. This is the encounter, by the way that Matt
Gates was talking about it one time. The other objects were not able to
get a lock on them, but they also seemed to be jamming our systems.
So this is breaking today and you can go to Black Vault and check
out more of this. But just last week, not Pasilka, but Luna
represented Luna, who was kind of in this when Matt Gates on all this,
she was asked about how she and Matt Gates had a classified briefing and
somebody got tipped that perhaps they were briefed own alien bodies. So I want
to know what y'all think, because I actually think that it feels like we're
on the precipice of something really major being unveiled. Okay, here, my
cat is here, Hara, come on down, buddy. I've here,
I hear a couple of different things going on with the bodies. Okay,
so there's there's a lot of information to mole over. It's one of the
least likely to get hard evidence on, which makes sense because that would be
the thing that most people would be most secretive or cautious about, right,
revealing actual bodies, Like they're just have this assumption that maybe we're not ready,
you know, and that's unfair because obviously we've survived along dominence before other
ones. So a few things. One is obviously Grush has mentioned biological material,
right, so maybe something related to that was shown. But Jeremy Corbell
says that that story about Luna is being misconstrued and that is not exactly what
happened, But there might be a grain of truth to the rumors. So
I just wanted to throw that in there also for people to think about.
So we don't know exactly what they saw, but I do think I have
to mention I keep going back to that Skinny Bob series on YouTube and wondering
what is the story with that, Like, why do we have those videos
on YouTube with a person who's never like, no one's ever come forward and
said they made that, And it's just so happened to have been put out
around the time ALLSAP was around. No one's mentioned the connection between the timing
with ALLSAF and those videos, So I don't know, man, there's a
lot to think about. I'm sorry, Mike, Mike, Mike. Cat
Hara is uh, she's very demanding and when she wants to be in front
of the camera, So anyway, I just want to say how annoying it
is. I can't tell you. I did a whole bunch of my flying
time was at that base right next to Eggland, so we shot approaches to
the same areas and used the same training areas over the Gulf, and I
never saw damn things. So I'm so pissed that those guys saw it and
I didn't. I was at Herbert Field, which is about five miles from
Eggland. But like I said, we both use all those same training areas,
or you did say something, but you just can't tell. No.
I mean, I mean back then, I wouldn't have said anything obviously,
you know, because you just didn't do that. You know, in that
time, you would have gotten sent to the flight doc and probably grounded,
so you wouldn't be talking UFOs and the cockpit. It was extremely intimidating just
going there as a rookie. You just kind of you know, you just
wouldn't do anything like that. But no, I really didn't see anything,
but it would have been really cool if I did. But yeah, I
don't know, do you do you? I mean, you're a news junkie
as well, Courtney. You get a lot of news. Do you have
anything on Gates? Luna Gates is briefing about those craft and then the bodies
more recently. I think it's just so fascinating because we were at the hearing,
couple of us here, I know, Deb was there, and we
heard Gates in the open session say break ranks and talk about classified information.
At the hearing, he talked about this information that just that's just come out.
So I think that's amazing that it's actually out now and we can look
at the dock documents because at the time he said, now tell me if
I'm incorrect, but I remember him saying that they showed up at the entrance
to the base, that they appeared, and so it sounds similar to me
to what some of the other pilots testified to that sometimes these you know,
anomalous objects show up around bases, or they show up where we're doing training
runs, and so I think that's a pattern obviously that is intelligent. Once
again, like we talked about the radar being jammed last time, it shows
that there is some intelligence behind this, which to me is also another a
piece of proof. And so I think the interesting thing is that you're seeing
the introduction, especially with Luna and Gates, now again with these bodies potentially
and seeing a video. You know, they didn't say no, they didn't
see a video. They said no comment when the reporter asked if they were
shown a video, which I also think is interesting, And how do you
interpret that, you know, as people who are following the news, if
they would have not they would say no, that's patently ridiculous. So I
think it leaves the door open. And I also think that it's interesting that
we're talking about bodies because when we saw the controversy around the Santilly video so
long ago that was hotly debated and disputed, even by people like Kit Green
who came out on I think it was above top speaker at the time,
and he even came out and weighed in on it at the time. So
here we're seeing this all kind of repackaged, repurposed and coming out again.
But it's actually in Congress. It's at a higher level. So when you
hear people like Luis Alsando, which today he came on speaking of news and
said, hey, things are coming, you know, be aware, be
tapped in, I think that this is all showing us how it's taken shape.
So that's what I that's my opinion about it. Man, what a
great stitch. Back to the beginning of the show. I just want to
say hello to a couple of people. We have tim is it Timothy Man?
Timoth Man's goateee? How are you, Shelley? You got some interesting
stuff. You're gonna have to tell us about this one the object let us
get so close before shot up without turning, shot up without turning and at
an angle and went into a tunnel. So you have to we'd love to
hear more about that. So please DM somebody on the show, either Debs
or Courtney or Tim or myself so that we can hear about this and maybe
we'll get you on here and talk about it. But yeah, welcome everyone,
timoth Man, election reform or perish or right, everybody. We appreciate
you guys being here. We only have about five minutes left, so let's
just sort of anything that you guys want to discuss go around. Tim.
Do you want to have a parting shot or something. Yeah, I've got
a party shot. I was really hoping to catch doctor Crypele tonight. I'm
said he couldn't be on. But one thing I want to talk about,
you know, and y'all were to talk about this earlier, this notion of
feeling, but I'm going to go beyond feelings, right, Like, it's
obvious that humans have something different about us, and going back into biblical days
and for most of humankind, we've called this the soul, right, But
the problem is along with the soul comes some darker parts, right Like,
if we do indeed have a soul, and going back to biblical times,
you know, go all the way back to the Ark of the Covenant,
and we're dealing with other technology and certain people who could communicate with the phenomenon,
and we have this notion of heaven and hell. And if you do
believe in the soul, and you do believe in other worldly beings, and
you do believe that they're interested in this soul of ours, you know,
I can't think of anything more hellish than passing away and my soul being part
of in a container somewhere for some alien races whatever they're going to do with
it. So that's what That's not a very happy passing thought, but you
know, it's what it is. The only thing I'm worried about, you
know, is if you and I get together in the afterlife, Tim and
me at my best, you at your best, and we play one on
one in basketball, I know that I'm still going to get smoked even if
I'm at the best DJ I've ever been in basketball. And that's kind of
concerning because it's kind of a you know, it'll kind of be like a
repeating death if we play over and over. No, it's not concerning.
I'll tell you why, because I never was into this everybody gas trophy society
that we're in now. So it's good to know you're not good at something
because that enables you to pursue things you are good at, like UFO research.
So I think it's good that you don't think you're good at basketball.
I'll give you a great example of this. My best friends, they were
in the Gong Show. We used to have the Gong Show back in the
day and high school, right it's kind of like the old school talent show.
And they decided they're going to do a band. They're going to sing
who put the bump in the bump? Bump the bump. And they got
on stage they started doing this and everybody, I mean the whole school k
through twelve. So they're throwing stuff at the stage, they're booing. They
were so humiliated they rushed off stage, you know, head for like a
week. But at least they didn't think they were good at singing, and
so they all pursued things they were good at. Yeah. One yeah,
one of them turned into a NASA engineer. Right now. Yeah, I
think I have enough enough things that I'm not good at that. I I
already have enough humility. But depth party shot, Yeah, I really have
to mention us hose. And the reason I have to mention it is because
we keep talking about examples of advanced technology. And I do not think people
understand how much pressure there is in the depths of the ocean that it really
crumpled most of the technology that we've tried to put down there. And we've
heard some horrific examples of that in recent months that I won't won't get into
right. So, if there's something that is capable of shooting out of the
water, going up, disappearing, going into space, coming back, and
going into the water again, that is definitely well advanced beyond what we can
do, Like people don't understand, space is a lot less pressure. And
just to throw it out there, Darcy Beer has a new USO documentary and
I plan I'm watching it soon. Uh and when's he coming on? Debs?
Oh you know you Yeah, you're gonna make me go look at the
calendar. I was hoping you're going to promo it. Yeah, And I'm
happy that he's going to come talk to us about that. And by the
way, apparently Science Pop saw us, So just throwing it out there too,
dude, Science Bob Man that brothers had paranormal Yeah, I think the
only thing he hasn't had his big foot. But other than that, you've
seen everything. So yeah, Darcy, we got a link. He said
that to get with his promo his ad agency. I can't. I'm trying
to think of public relations whatever. They'll give us the links so we could
watch it in advance of him coming on Courtney A parting shot my friend.
Yeah, well, I was getting prepared. I was going back and refamiliarizing
myself with some of doctor Kreipel's work. You know, I saw him and
met him for the first time down in Houston at the Archives of the Impossible,
which was just an incredible, incredible conference. You know, everybody was
there, all the all the thought leaders, and so I was reading his
book The Flip again, rereading it, and I picked up something that he
starts talking about really early on called cosmic mindedness, this bigger cosmic mind that's
intelligent that we have access too right through our spirit or through our own mind
or however. And I and it stood out to me because I was thinking
about that, like consciousness and this whole you know, this whole AI debate
that we're having, and so, you know, what makes us human.
I think I'm just going to go into some of my own research for my
PhD, which is on near death experiences. And so one of the thing
that I think when you're looking at these patterns about the soul and these frightening
things that come up, like we've heard about, you know, where these
et one theory is that they're taking our souls and putting them in these containers
and somehow controlling our spirit. I look to the I look to the near
death research because most of these people who go and pass over to the other
side and have clinical death, it's very similar. They either see a guardian
or a deity or a god, or some feel this huge expansiveness or even
an ancestor when they come back into this physical reality. And so I always
think to myself, well, while that also might be true, we have
this body of research from these individuals who have gone on to the other side
and have sovereignty over their own spirit and even whether they want to come back
here. So that's one counterpoint that I use against the ship. With the
bodies and the souls in the in the container, we're more than just a
meat suit. So that's that's my parting shot. And I do think we
have the ability to connect to this cosmic mindedness. And if AI does have
a purpose. Maybe that will help us in that way be a bridge through
breakthrough science. That would be pretty cool. That would be an advantage.
Isn't the fact that we even reach out to the cosmos and try to understand
these things and try to go into space an example of how special humans are
and something that might attract the attention of other intelligences. Yeah, just throwing
it out there, most certainly. And it also may have been the Trinity,
you know, explosions in New Mexico and what here was that was that
like forty three? I can't remember now, but yeah, no, I
you know, I mean, yeah, there's a lot of reasons. I
know, like the Neil de Grasse Tyson thing I won't even address because you
know, I don't need to address like that kind of small minded idiocy.
I don't care you know how many degrees he has, it's not the thing.
And in fact, tonight, you know, we were going to have
a PhD, but we got one and a half PhDs in his place,
so right now, I like we're up by half a PhD. So,
But doctor Krypol, we love you. You were so very very kind last
time that you were on, especially with Matt's story. That he was telling
and we really look forward to you coming here shortly. So Shelley, Shelley
Montgomery here and if you could read this one, Courtney, it's on the
screen you Okay, I thought it was a private chat times three. I
want to tell you something else I found interesting. Okay, Well, let's
let's share. Let's share about it, all right, Shelley DM one of
us, and let's figure out what this is before my cat destroys the computer.
Harah. My cat, the black panther that I call her, is
now behind the computer. Her face is right next to the screen, and
it's only going to be a moment before she does something to upset the entire
show. For my parting shot, I just want to say thank you everybody.
Money, Nathan, we missed you tonight. Boy. Lou certainly brought
a lot of eyeballs to the show. Tonight probably hit a record for us.
And that's including Lou's first appearance in Jim semi Van's appearance. But let's
see what's what do we got next? Uh? What do we got next?
Up? Debs? Is it Terry Wendell? Do we have big Foot
next? I'm pulling up the calendar it's happening right now. Yeah, I
want to say, DJ, you're very grady to sit with someone named Harrah.
You know, yeah, she's kind of violent reputation. I mean,
she is an absolute monster Island. I mean, you know, you've got
to be fierce to sit in her company. She is extremely, extremely demanding
of in my five pet family, she's quite unique. But anyway, now,
don't eat the screen, Harry, what's that the thirteenth? Yeah,
okay, right, Williams and Terry Windel. Yeah, so before we get
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So Tim right here is the host of All Things Unexplained. They have a
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Mississippi. Uh and CJ's former educator and mom uh and Tim, who you
know has a mohawk and needs hair gel, so there's that, and has
a very low body fat percentage. Courtney and Debs have anomalist debates. We're
hoping that some of you guys are going to be now she's reaching out for
the printer, so she's going to see if maybe she can knocket him print
up. Uh. But Courtney and Debs have the show called Anomalist Debates.
They are waiting for people who have argued but want to settle down into a
Lincoln Douglas format debate. They haven't told me if they're gonna let me give
them a judge or not for the debate. A proposal for that. By
the way, I forgot, yeah, Tim has stepped up to the plate.
I forgot. Yes, I will tell you about that, Courtney,
I will tell you. Don't worry all right, So we will be back.
Our next show is gonna be Bigfoot related. We're having on prolific habituator
from Oklahoma, Arla Williams and her friend from Terry Wendell from rock Hill Bigfoot
in rock Hill, South Carolina, and Terry has been out to our list
property. We actually you know, know them separately, but but Arla is
quite legendary for people who have had experiences on her property over the course of
many years. So so that'll be coming up next. So thank you everybody.
I appreciate you guys. Coming in and hanging out while doctor Cripel couldn't
be here. Nathan, one love, and to all you guys out there,
Julie, thank you so much. Yeah I'm babbling, No, that's
me, but yeah, I know. Harrah is just gonna just she wants
to destroy something. Julie, thank you very much for getting out of the
car and coming in to do this. We love and appreciate you and we'll
see you soon. So for Tim, for Debs, for Courtney, this
is DJ saying peace out, one love, We'll see you down the road.
And as always, we're wondering what's up around the Bend.