WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:34.759 Oh yeah, welcome back to Calling All beings. I'm your host DJ here 2 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:37.600 on a Tuesday night, And let me tell you something. We got no 3 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:40.799 doctor Jeff Crepel. We got no money, man, but I'll tell you 4 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:46.119 what we do have. We got a study of UAPs. The co host 5 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:53.719 of this joint one of the original gangsters, and that is Debs. Good 6 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:58.439 evening, Debs, why did you tell everyone about my ginkster lifestyle? Now 7 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:03.359 the secret is out. Sorry I should have kept it on the d L 8 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:06.680 And you know what we found out last time, Deb after our last shows, 9 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:11.159 that we have a volleyball gangster up and here be raking people in the 10 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:14.760 grill and doing all kinds of craziness up at the up at the net. 11 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:19.480 And I'll tell you what. She's an academian herself, gonna she's working on 12 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:23.480 that pH d O double G. And I'll tell you what. She's kind 13 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:29.920 of a regular up in this joint, and that is Courtney Marcussonne. Get 14 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:38.439 it man with the crew and now back for a second appearance, not just 15 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:42.079 for a question or two, not just to pump his show. All things 16 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:47.599 unexplained, But that is my man from North Carolina, who right now is 17 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:51.560 visiting us from Roswell, who shows that he's in the game. He's just 18 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:55.680 not playing with you people. He's spending his money to go out and do 19 00:01:55.760 --> 00:02:01.239 some investigation sn and that is my man, the host of all things unexplained, 20 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:07.280 afore mentioned doctor Tim Mouse. Thanks so much, so I'm really trying 21 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:10.599 to up my UFO's free cred. I am broadcasting live from Rosville, New 22 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:15.599 Mexico right now, So shout out to the Stellar Coffee Company where I'm at 23 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:19.000 right now, right in the heart of downtown Rosville, for host to me. 24 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:27.199 And also one more shout out to the International UFO Museum and Research Institute 25 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.759 here in Roswelle. They were really gracious and kind to me today let me 26 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:36.000 do a lot of research, and I really appreciate them so so much. 27 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:39.039 So good to be back. Thanks so Ray and Tim. Do you attribute 28 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:43.319 that to your body fat content or the hair? Dude? Why do you 29 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:47.680 think that they've been so welcoming? I attributed to the mounds and sirs I 30 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:53.199 were tossing around like just like free, like yes ma'am, yes, sir, 31 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:55.639 Like here's your free ma'am, here's your free sir. And it's just 32 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:01.360 like hey, whatever you want it's your let's do this. So it's it's 33 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:06.680 not the veins in Tim's bicep, and it's not his cowboy boots which I 34 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:09.840 saw when I went and visited with him. They're awesome, but yeah, 35 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:16.479 it's just his overall personality in Southern Charm, Mississippi's own former educator and current 36 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:22.680 I guess college administrator of some sort. It's top secret, though we can't 37 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:30.599 talk about it anyway, that's right. I have to comment about how amazing 38 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:36.960 that research area is in that museum, though it is file after file after 39 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:42.680 file, like they're organized by who it comes from, is amazing, Stuffy, 40 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:46.840 I'll give you a great example. So I wanted to know if they 41 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:52.960 had anything on Art Campbell because I picked up a great book called Finding the 42 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:58.400 UFO Crash at San Augustine, and it's by one Art Campbell, and I 43 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:01.479 need to know more about R. Campbell. It's just a few button clicks. 44 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:03.960 She's like, Okay, let me go pull some files, and she 45 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:13.599 brings back this file of nineteen seventies and eighties UFO magazines with R. Campbell 46 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:19.160 in them somewhere. So I thought that was pretty amazing, good good stuff. 47 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:23.839 Tim I'm glad they're treating you well. We're gonna want to hear tomorrow 48 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:28.360 after you go out in the field with unknown persons. But uh, before 49 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:30.360 we get into all that, you know what, let me hand it over 50 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:32.480 to Debs to throw some topics and then we'll go to Courtney and then we'll 51 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:35.079 go to Tim. So go ahead, deb man, What's what's going on? 52 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:41.920 What's on your min Okay, So the thing that's on my mind right 53 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:47.439 now is it this. There's this kind of feeling of I want to say 54 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:55.720 stagnation, but concern that but stagnation. Yeah, okay, so there's concern. 55 00:04:56.240 --> 00:05:00.600 And if you see, like I still I'm not on so media as 56 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:02.680 much as I was. I'm kind of taking a step back for a little 57 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:09.000 bit. But I've noticed that most of the posts that are from the UFO 58 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:14.319 community have turned into something else. They're on other topics right now, So 59 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:19.720 I feel like, until something else happens, like a lot of people are 60 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:23.560 just kind of waiting, and I guess I'm one of them. So I 61 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:26.279 don't know how everyone else feels about that, but I just wanted to throw 62 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:30.600 that out there. The overall feel of the community has shifted a little bit. 63 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:34.120 So who wrote that song, Courtney, waiting on the World to Change? 64 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:43.720 I can I don't know. That's not coming to mind. I remember 65 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:48.120 the song. I remember how those in the world to change. There you 66 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:56.920 go, tam from near Elvis Presley the singer. Was he the one the 67 00:05:56.959 --> 00:06:00.480 first sang it? No, it's much more, much more recent song. 68 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.759 It just so happens that Tim is from Mississippi, and who knows, maybe 69 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:08.279 he's not far from Tupelo, where Elvis is from. But anyway, I 70 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:13.360 digress, please waiting for something? Do you feel like this is a malaise 71 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:16.600 Courtney? What do you feel like the state of the of the as Nathan 72 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:21.319 called the state of the onion is right now? Yeah, I feel that 73 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:25.839 deb has just got her finger on the pulse. She's picking up what everybody 74 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:30.439 else is feeling, which is this anti climactic thing since the hearing that we're 75 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:32.720 all waiting for, you know, the next hearing or the next big move 76 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:40.079 to happen, and we're all being told there's this still water right the undercurrent, 77 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:44.680 but there's really big stuff happening. But I you know, I think 78 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:47.920 back to when I started getting into this back in you know, twenty fifteen 79 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:51.199 and sixteen, and there wasn't really anything going on. So I'm like, 80 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:55.560 this is actually pretty big stuff. So I know there's going to be more 81 00:06:55.639 --> 00:07:00.360 big stuff. And I keep thinking about how we always kept hearing something's going 82 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:01.680 to drop, something BIG's going to drop, and you always just felt like 83 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:05.879 it was nothing. So I think that this time that we're in right now 84 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:10.800 is actually pretty exciting. And uh, and I think there's more. I 85 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.160 think there's more coming. I'm sure we're going to talk about it. I 86 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:19.279 was disappointed to see Sean Kopatrick's article and Scientific American because he's just not scientific, 87 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:25.959 he's just he's just so, he's just so negative and he just negates 88 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:29.839 the whole body of evidence that's been given. And so I am disappointed with 89 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:34.839 that today. Yes, very crestfallen. Oh I love that word. It's 90 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:41.759 a thing accord. When the best word of the show is crust fallen, 91 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:46.040 I love it. I have to say I have to throw out there that 92 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:50.079 Jeremy Purbell did say that something with crush is going to come that's bigger than 93 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:55.120 the opaid, and I just feel like that's still a lot going on. 94 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:57.920 One person. I would like other people to come out, and that's one 95 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:00.800 of the things I'm waiting for. But I want to hear are other people's 96 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:05.120 opinions. Of course op ed to me sounds like moped, but without the 97 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:18.920 m I'm sorry, I guess that's not worthy. You've come to impressive, 98 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:24.480 dah man. This is a stitch back to someone trying to teach you to 99 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.040 say. Was it Jeff teaching how to say claude patamen? So it was 100 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:33.519 lovely? I'm sorry, all right, I'm going to try to get serious 101 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.200 here and talk to UFOs because I'm having too much fun and it's just uncalled 102 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:43.639 for. So yeah, I mean so that we have so many, you 103 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.639 know, illusions in that Jeremy and George are always alluding to the next thing 104 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.559 is going to happen, and you know, it's quite possible that it is. 105 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:56.559 It's just it's kind of like the phenomenon where it's not going to happen 106 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:03.559 on a timeline that is necessarily acceptable to us. And boy Debs, we 107 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:11.159 had conversations about this way back when Grush came out. Is that we're waiting 108 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:16.159 for someone to come along and offer not only moral support, but to support 109 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:20.639 his argument and his assertions. With some of their own. So they threw 110 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:24.559 out those you know, those little you know, they sort of threw out 111 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:31.159 those daggers there as far as alluding to a mental health crisis that basically just 112 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.919 happened because his friend died, and that he's autistic, and you know, 113 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.080 like, I'm like, wait a minute, what's what's the problem with his 114 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:43.200 testimony? I'm missing it because he was able to maintain a TSSCI clearance with 115 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:50.320 SBI and multiple polygraphs and was you know, had access could have been read 116 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.600 into, you know, something like three thousand programs. So so yeah, 117 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:58.960 obviously they didn't think it was enough of an issue to read him out and 118 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.720 send him on his way, but obviously it was enough to scare other people 119 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:07.279 from wanting to do the same, because they know, if you have something 120 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:11.559 in your background. So Bob Lazar comes to mind, right, Okay, 121 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:16.039 strip club. You know, the guy you know's an engineer and on his 122 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:20.759 own time likes to go to a strip club and see girls and maybe get 123 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.759 lop dances. Oh my god. He obviously you know that person well. 124 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:31.679 But there may be individuals that don't want that information in the public sector, 125 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:37.480 and that's what would happen if they came forward. So that's that's my take. 126 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:41.120 Tim, did have you gone yet? Go ahead, sir, I 127 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:45.960 have not gone. So I'm actually going to address this from a different point 128 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:50.559 of view when it's not turned. But I did feel like there is a 129 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:56.399 general sense of apathy and society right now, and I don't really know how 130 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.559 that's going to change or what it's going to take. And I'll give you 131 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:05.279 a great So you have someone like Diana Pisilka, right, She's literally as 132 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:09.960 high level of an academic as you could get, and we just had her 133 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:13.720 on our show, but as respected of as an academic as you can get. 134 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:16.840 She literally says, Hey, someone from the government took me and this 135 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:24.679 other scientist from Stanford out in the desert of New Mexico, somewhere maybe the 136 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:31.679 plains of Santa Augustine, and we dug up parts from a UFO crash retrieval 137 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.960 site. General society, general population doesn't even blink an eye at this, 138 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:43.879 And I think that's pretty telling, because you know, you can't really get 139 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:52.080 more of a bona fide witness than Diana Pasilka, And so what is it 140 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:56.759 going to take to make people blink and I you know, I've heard this 141 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:05.559 SERI that people are becoming one technology, like we're merging with technology and it's 142 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.240 causing us to really, you know, just to lose sense of our surroundings 143 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:13.039 and really not even care. So I don't know what it's going to take, 144 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.559 but I feel you. I think there's a lot of empathy out there. 145 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:22.399 You know what I keep remembering. I keep remembering when lu said, 146 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:30.960 if you have other hobbies, go for that hobby. I think is the 147 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.759 quote, go get a hobby and come back right And I'm like, you 148 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:39.240 know what, I am doing that right now. I'm going to sit back 149 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:45.320 and wait because I think putting pressure on certain people isn't going to benefit us 150 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:48.000 with this topic, right It's it's not going to make it go faster, 151 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:54.679 and it is a slow, bureaucratic process happening behind the scenes. But regarding 152 00:12:54.720 --> 00:13:01.360 the apathy issue, you know, I think that is a an overall issue. 153 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:05.120 I think as a mental health professional, I see a lot of children, 154 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:09.000 for instance, are really suffering still from having gone through that pandemic, 155 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:15.360 and it's just been an overall ripple effect. So you know, on the 156 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:20.480 one hand, we're just like normalizing this conversation in society, the Nhai conversation 157 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.639 is kind of normalized at this point for some people. And then on the 158 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.559 other hand, people are like, yeah, but I just got to trudge 159 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:31.320 through life right now. We need like some sunshine or something to make everyone 160 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:39.559 just feel better and more excited about the universe. So, Courtney, what 161 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:43.440 do you think Tim mentioned AI would love to, you know, do a 162 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.919 whole round on that, but without setting any sort of a table. What's 163 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.960 your thoughts? Man, could I could just drop something huge right now? 164 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:54.960 And I think I probably will, just because you know, this is only 165 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:58.759 my second appearance I'm helping, so I might as well just go ahead and 166 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:01.840 shake it up. But you know, I know people in Silicon Valley who 167 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:07.960 are in that world, and I did hear just yesterday, And this is 168 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:13.440 just so incredible that there is a there's a guy out in Silicon Valley who 169 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:20.480 he won a Nobel and he's developing a chip, an organic chip, to 170 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:26.600 merge with AI and it goes beyond you know, neuralink and what Elon has 171 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:31.440 done. So I think that that is a sobering I think that is a 172 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:33.960 sobering thing if true. I mean they're getting the money behind it right now. 173 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:39.200 And the interesting or novel part of it that I thought was important for 174 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:45.600 research is that because these chips are you know, so going to be so 175 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:50.039 scarce right because of mining and getting them and the power that's required to use 176 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:54.840 them for something like neuralink, they're looking at other options like this organic this 177 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:56.720 organic type of chip. Now I don't know how it works, and I 178 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.799 want to know more, but I know that it's going in that direc and 179 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:05.159 that the progenitor of the whole thing, his philosophy is, you know, 180 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:11.279 mankind two point zero, and so I think that my own opinion is like, 181 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:16.840 I want to have personal sovereignty over my body and not be necessarily pushed 182 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:22.399 into that whole world. But I know it's going that way, and that 183 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.720 scares me. It actually scares the heck out of me. And I'm all 184 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.679 for technology, but if that gets developed, I think it's going to bring 185 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:35.120 a whole bunch of questions for humanity about AI and merging with it. That 186 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:39.600 that was going to be My next question was just that you already kind of 187 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:41.000 answered it, but I'll probably dig a little bit. But let me say 188 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:46.000 hello, Hello, Oh okay, my wife's saying stop clapping. I need 189 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:50.360 to sleep. I want to say hello to Lou. Lou. How's it 190 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:52.720 going, brother. We haven't spoke to you a long time, but I 191 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:58.240 hope you and Jennifer and the kids are doing really well. So glad thank 192 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:02.279 you for for tuning in as well as everybody else tuning in the cab. 193 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:07.080 William from Scotland, what's up? Brother? Just let you know William coming 194 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:12.399 up. We're having in England Ireland's Scotland Roundtable on a Saturday. I believe 195 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:17.039 it's April third, so tune in for that. I think you know who 196 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:21.120 will be representing Scotland, Andy Grillan. But we're also gonna have Rob Sheridan 197 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:26.159 from Ireland, and we're going to have a panoply of British brothers and sisters. 198 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:33.840 So but Courtney, yeah, I did study that, like my final 199 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.799 year when I graduated with my bachelor's which was not all that long ago, 200 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:42.360 I put AI is one of the things I wanted to study, and I 201 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:48.879 went to a lot of thought leaders from Elon to Jan Talin who developed Skype, 202 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:53.559 and there were several others that the names are probably escaping me now. 203 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:59.639 I'm sure I have them in the papers and my archives what I wrote about 204 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:06.319 it, But some of them were at Georgia Institute of Technology, where you 205 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:11.079 know they had taught. I think it was a Navy DARPA project, ironically, 206 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.680 something Debs and I were talking about earlier, where they wanted to teach 207 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:19.039 two robots to be able to fool one another to play hide and seek, 208 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:26.960 And so the deceptive aspect of it scared the professor that was teaching it in 209 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:33.599 They wrote an article in one of the engineering magazines about it because he said, 210 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:36.640 well, what, how do you know that your personal robot won't decide 211 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:38.160 to do something like that? So I thought it was kind of frightening. 212 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:45.599 So listening with me, well to say nothing crazy, I might. I 213 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:48.599 could go on and on about the AI technology that's coming out, but I 214 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:52.160 just really like to point out to people that this is not new stuff. 215 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:59.119 DARPA worked on it at least six years ago. Back in the day. 216 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:03.359 They didn't use the small devices like they're doing now, which by the way, 217 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:08.960 was kind of a copy from a competitor for Neurlink. Just got to 218 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:14.599 throw that out there. They used an attachment, right, and that how 219 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:21.240 they used the brain computer interface so the thing like putting chips inside our body 220 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:25.599 and all that, that's not new technology. And if anyone researches it for 221 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:29.000 just a few minutes, they're going to find out it's older than they think, 222 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:33.599 and that means that it's further along than we think. Hey, Deb, 223 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:34.599 I would like to ask you, and then I'm going to go to 224 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:40.160 Tim on this. I know this isn't UFO centric, so forgive me everybody. 225 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:45.599 We'll try to dial it back into UFOs. And there is you know 226 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:49.039 there because doctor Kreipel who was going to be our guest, and I actually 227 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.240 did speak about that, and he's going to be on with us, by 228 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:57.759 the way, April eighth, So Monday, April eighth, doctor Kreipel will 229 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:02.079 will join us, but he's in uh he's in Texas, in Dallas this 230 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:07.960 weekend or this week So, Deb, is there something about AI that you 231 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:14.759 fear? What are your personal feelings about the possibilities of a developed sort of 232 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.640 strong AI or AGI. Well, personally, I don't fear it. I 233 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:23.000 find it fascinating. I love to explore what's going on, Like robots is 234 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:26.119 one of those hobbies I was talking about when I said, you know, 235 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.640 looking at other hobbies. Believe it or not, I have a whole closet 236 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:37.160 full of robots, so I would like to see improvements in development. I 237 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:40.720 made a chat bought back in the day, so I understand what's going on 238 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:44.920 with the large language models. But what's happening is they're evolving it to something 239 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:48.319 else. In fact, the most recent one was the one that can create 240 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:55.680 videos, and basically you give it some text commands and it creates actual videos. 241 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.599 The thing is, though, and I'll just throw ou I don't want 242 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.920 to give away too much about some of this research Jesse yet, but i'll 243 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.480 just throw out if you combine what they're doing with AI with a whole bunch 244 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:14.000 of companies together, and then combine what they're doing with something where they're trying 245 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:18.759 to replicate the human brain with computers, and you put those two together, 246 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:23.599 you're going to see something that thinks a lot faster than us, has a 247 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:29.400 lot more information than us. And if they do improve they've talked about improving 248 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:33.160 the energy power source for these things, right, it's going to be like 249 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:40.200 a human with a bajillion memories. Okay, So that could scare some people. 250 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:42.640 I won't lie. That might be scary. The only thing that really 251 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:47.160 does scare me about it, though, is the fact that they want to 252 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:49.880 weaponize it. They always want to weaponize these things, and they already have 253 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:57.680 autonomous drones. They're already working on swarms of drones that work together that are 254 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:03.240 AI. So that's the scary part. I'm not appreciating that. I appreciate 255 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:07.160 us not wanting to lose service people. I get it, but it's just 256 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:12.039 kind of scary because I could go wrong, very wrong, very sky in 257 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:17.559 it. So you said you don't fear deps, But to be fair, 258 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:22.119 the list of things that scare you we have so far are ghosts and restaurant 259 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:26.319 bathrooms, and I can't think of it. I can't think of anything else. 260 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:32.920 So you're not really the right person. Let me go to somebody who 261 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:36.920 may have real fear, who shares in the fears of Courtney and I, 262 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:42.640 someone we can commiserate here with doctor Tim Mounts. Well, Hey, so 263 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:48.039 I do fear what Courtney was talking about. I think it's really disturbing. 264 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:51.599 I'll give you a little teaser into some things that CJ and I have been 265 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:56.000 looking into. Some people believe that, you know, Diana Psilka has said 266 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:00.599 that, you know, these crashes are perhaps gifts or donation. Okay, 267 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:04.319 Well, the implication here is, all right, they gave us technology, 268 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:10.680 what did we give them? And did we give them the green light for 269 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:15.640 abductions? And if you look into the abduction phenomenon and biotechnology, we literally 270 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:23.920 have advanced biotechnology that was first derived from space with no other explanation. Okay, 271 00:22:25.640 --> 00:22:30.039 there's some disturbing trends here. And I was reminded that indeed, these 272 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:34.799 implants have been around a lot longer than we've known about as I was touring 273 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:41.119 the UFO Research Museum today. Sure enough, how long have people been getting 274 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:49.759 abducted and coming back and telling stories of implants in their bodies? So this 275 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:57.279 is a scary phenomenon. I think it's a my big coincidence that we are 276 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:04.440 seeing evolving technology with implants and AI and all this other biotic And is there 277 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:10.640 a link between the abduction phenomenon and UFO crashed tribles. I don't know, 278 00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:14.039 but I'm afraid we're going to find out. Can I throw out you know, 279 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:17.960 one thing, one thing I know about my friend Tim is he hates 280 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:22.119 conspiracy theories. Hate some Right now, I'm just kidding, Okay, So 281 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.640 so let's let's let's let's dive right into this then, deb if you don't 282 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:33.599 mind, uh, Staff Sergeant Dan Sherman and his book way above Black and 283 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:37.079 so if anybody out there is looking for it, it's on good Reads. 284 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.359 I think it's like seven dollars or something on good Reads. The book is 285 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:47.119 sixty pages, so uh, you know, Tim could probably read that while 286 00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:52.799 he's in the shower. That that few pages, right, But what I 287 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:57.119 want to talk about is that supposedly there was a program with the USAF and 288 00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:06.440 the NSA to train people to communicate with the phenomenon. And I hate to 289 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:11.960 spoil the book for you, but the actual purpose of it is more important 290 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:15.319 than keeping it a secret, because really you would want to read it to 291 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.400 get the details about how he got into the program, why he showed up 292 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.319 at Elinz School and then at Fort Mead and then so on and so forth, 293 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:27.799 and says that he was trained to communicate with ets. He eventually figured 294 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:33.119 out that there were abductions involved in this, at least that's what he thought, 295 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:37.519 or that's what he was led to believe, because he was being given 296 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:45.759 coordinates by the entity he was intuitively communicating with the computer terminal that he was 297 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:52.279 using, I think like nineteen ninety two for a timeframe of where computers were 298 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:56.359 at. There was that sort of technology, and there was a box that 299 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.559 would appear on his screen, and what he was given, intuitively a set 300 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:07.319 of forward slashes numbers and then more forward slashes. At the end of the 301 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:11.599 communication, he would type that into a window. He didn't know where that 302 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.480 information was going, and he won't even offer a guess as to where it 303 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.920 was going, but he believed that they were coordinates. And I guess his 304 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:26.359 communication with the entity had something to do with abductions. So who goes So 305 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:29.240 let's go to deb and then go to Courtney and back to Tim. Please. 306 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.119 It's interesting because it sort of ties into what I was going to comment. 307 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:38.880 I was going to say that some people say that the entities are AI, 308 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:45.440 right, that they are some kind of biogenetic AI, and which would 309 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.000 make sense because if you're like a species, you'd probably want to send that 310 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:51.880 We would. We're working on that right now, by the way, we're 311 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:56.880 trying to make robots to send into space. And if they are you're saying, 312 00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.079 like electromagnetic technology and all that so it just kind of goes in line. 313 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:07.880 This is a very technological connection as far as like the abductions, you 314 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:10.839 know, it's so weird. The thought that went through my head was how 315 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:15.000 many did we abduct? Like, you know, like how many have we 316 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:22.000 taken and kept? Great and like humanity has abducted many many people, right, 317 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:26.480 so we're so judging you about this, but we do this, Like 318 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:32.400 I've watched documentary after documentary one of my other hobbies about people doing these kinds 319 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:36.599 of things and people going after them. So I don't know, I just 320 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:38.640 I think there's a lot to think about with that. I don't approve of 321 00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:42.240 abducting. Obviously, it's not a good thing at all. It's damaging, 322 00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:47.960 it's traumatic. There's other ways if you want to interact with humanity that would 323 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:52.680 be better. I don't no, I don't know. That's two cents on 324 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.880 that. I was just want to say, hi Ava, and welcome back. 325 00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:57.400 We haven't seen you in a little bit, but welcome back to the 326 00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:03.440 cab. Welcome, and Secdoyd and Shelley welcome. Yeah. And it also 327 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:08.200 I want to throw out there before I give to you Courtney, that I 328 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:11.799 hadn't shared this with you. I thought I was supposed to share it with 329 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:18.279 you last week. But the alien interview that was done, it was allegedly 330 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:25.119 filmed in nineteen ninety one out at the Area fifty one site at S four 331 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:29.920 supposedly, and I watched that the way it was filmed, and I watched 332 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.839 Victor, and I believe that's I believe that's a legitimate, absolutely, a 333 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:40.720 legitimate U interview with a with an alien. I believe Victor's legitimate. But 334 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:42.799 anyway, take it away, Courtney on anything that you want to discuss about 335 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:47.240 that, Well, was that the Inside Edition one that I mentioned? I 336 00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:52.839 mentioned an Inside Edition video that was laked and it had the Navy across the 337 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.039 bottom. Okay, I just wanted to I just wanted to get clarity if 338 00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.039 it was the same video. So when I heard when I heard, I 339 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:04.440 heard this, uh you know this new chip that's organic, right, the 340 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.599 first thing I thought of, I just wanted to de validate doctor Mounce because 341 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.519 the first thing that went through my mind intuitively, I was thinking, is 342 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:15.240 this connected to implants? You know? It was such a like agerant thought 343 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.960 that came into my mind. It was it was so far afield of what 344 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:22.720 was actually being talked about in that context. I thought that was an interesting 345 00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.559 thought. And I'm not conspiracy minded either. I want to find facts and 346 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:32.599 fact patterns that, you know, go and make evidence that you have evidence 347 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:37.160 when you don't really have it, or you know, historical evidence and documentation 348 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:40.920 of things. So when he said it to me, I thought, oh, 349 00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:44.640 I wonder if this explains telepathy. I wonder if explained some of the 350 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:48.599 sigh and the precognitions and so some of that. I have never conceived that 351 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:53.039 these actual Sieh abilities might have been related to that. I never considered it, 352 00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.920 but I absolutely considered it when he said it. It was like my 353 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.720 first thought. So, yeah, it has been around around a long time. 354 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:04.240 Deb and I wonder were some of those medals, right, you know 355 00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:08.359 the doctor lear stuff which we saw, you know, patients having medals being 356 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.559 taken out. I wonder if some of that wasn't repurposed and given to Darba. 357 00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.519 I don't know, it's just a thought. I think. The second 358 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:22.400 thing about the Dan Sherman story that is so profound is how his mom was 359 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:29.599 identified before he went into the recruitment. So there was also recruitment because he 360 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.440 was an experiencer and it was a genetic thing. And so that's another thing 361 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.720 that stands out to me about his story is that there's recruiting going on, 362 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:40.119 and you know, Kit Green talks about this. He talked about it in 363 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.720 Third Eye Spies that there was a recruitment program and they can't get away with 364 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:48.160 doing that today what they did back then. And I actually contacted the filmmaker 365 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:51.960 and I was like, what exactly was he talking about in those army recruitments 366 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.359 and how are they recruiting you know, the size spies. So that's another 367 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:57.559 thing that comes to mind when we think about Dan Sherman and how he got 368 00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:03.720 recruited. And I guess the third thing would be is this was brought up 369 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.720 to me, And it's another thing I never conceived of about possible implants is 370 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.440 the domain you know, that was taken out of the NDAA there at the 371 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.559 end before it was signed and went through. And it never occurred to me 372 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:21.160 that people who had actually had implants that were taken out, you know, 373 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.440 that's eminent domain as well. So if all that metal was taken out and 374 00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:29.799 ended up somewhere else, you know, that's a patient's actual metal that might 375 00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.160 be either by their doctor or for patient, you know, health, especially 376 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:38.079 with anomaloist health incidences. So I think there's a lot connected with this, 377 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:42.640 with AI and all of it, and I think that we're just seeing little 378 00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:47.559 pieces of it emerging and it's up to us really to try to figure it 379 00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:49.519 out. But I think it's very difficult to try to get the whole picture 380 00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:56.599 obviously. Yeah, and I had a discussion with a future guest also coming 381 00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:02.240 on as Bob Pliskin on Twitter. You guys know him as Sean Munger. 382 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:07.799 He's former Marine Corps intel. He is a lawyer, a government lawyer, 383 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:14.759 got himself through law school later on in life. Just an absolute tiger for 384 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.799 disclosure and as an advocate. And we talked about whether or not that was 385 00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:25.599 a lark putting that eminent domain clause in there. I don't know that anybody 386 00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:30.359 can quite say, but it seems like a lark to me. It seems 387 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.119 like you would put that in there if you didn't want it to pass, 388 00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:40.720 because anybody with even the slightest, most rudimentary knowledge of the climate, the 389 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.960 socio political climate of the United States would know that that's a non starter. 390 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.400 So you wouldn't put that in there if you wanted the legislation to pass. 391 00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.359 You can surmise about it, but that's all I'll say about that. But 392 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.400 I did want to ask you one follow up, Courtney, before we go 393 00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:04.440 to Tim and relative to AI, is it fair that we could assume that 394 00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:12.759 an intelligence such that visits the planet is far more advanced in AI than we 395 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:17.920 are in twenty twenty four? Would you agree with that? Here's the part 396 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:22.920 about it where I always go back to the six layer model, that paper 397 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:29.000 about incommensurability that Jacques Filabro the dip again with the cornships there. That's one 398 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.960 of my favorite cornerstone papers to go back to because they lay stuff out there 399 00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:38.240 about the whole anthropomorphizing, you know, this machine or the AI models that 400 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:44.319 are being used. I think that we make that leap, we make that 401 00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.000 leap that it's advanced, We make that jump that it's advanced. I think 402 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:51.400 you have to go back to the military witnesses. That's always what I do, 403 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:55.079 is they're saying it's advanced. Now there's this whole new thing coming out 404 00:32:55.119 --> 00:33:00.240 that the tic TAC at the Nimetz was our teach, right, I mean, 405 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.880 did you guys it just came out this week though that they're challenging some 406 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.400 of the witness testimonies saying that and but the but the point is they're saying 407 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:14.279 it's so far advanced. So I always have trouble with that, reconciling, 408 00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:19.839 you know, obviously associating you know, the AI with being so advanced. 409 00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:23.400 So there, there's there are several reasons why that. So first of all, 410 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:28.519 people that had inside knowledge that did all the investigation on that. One 411 00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:30.920 of them is in the chat Louel Zondo said that it wasn't our tech. 412 00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:37.680 Christopher Mellon, who was pretty low position under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, 413 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:43.279 which is just below the cabinet level. Then you have David Fraver, who 414 00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:49.680 Jeremy Corbel has sent these guys on the cab chat. It's an interview that 415 00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:54.319 Jeremy Corbel did where someone was trying to assert to Dave Fraver that it could 416 00:33:54.359 --> 00:34:00.200 be our our technology, and Dave said, yeah, not only was a 417 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:04.920 witness to the event and got in a dogfight and the craft literally disappeared in 418 00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.760 front of him. Literally, that's what Alex Dietrich told us. It didn't 419 00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:14.519 zoom away, it disappeared. So that's a B is he said, if 420 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.679 you knew the position I hold right now, you wouldn't try to sell me 421 00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:23.199 that. So there is not, and with my knowledge of flight, there 422 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:29.119 is no. You would have to have a very very significant witness convinced me 423 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:34.079 that that's our technology, which would take me in, you know, forty 424 00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.679 five minutes that I'm not going to waste on this show because no one really 425 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.000 cares about aviation and aerospace. But that's not our tech, and I would 426 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.440 someone that says it is. I'll bet my life against theirs. That's how 427 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:51.119 sure I am that that's not. I'm to have no independent knowledge that I'm 428 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:53.840 glad you rebuttaled because one of the things that I always say was, look, 429 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.400 the things were raining down, they showed up at the you know, 430 00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.119 at the rendezvous point. It wasn't even discussed. It had, you know, 431 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:05.400 some kind of some kind of advanced knowledge of where they were going to 432 00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:08.280 be. So yes, I do think so, because those different facts show 433 00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:14.079 that it's obviously way more advanced than that was my That was actually, though, 434 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.760 my preparatory question, which I got to give to Tim because he'll never 435 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.400 talk to me again if I don't get him in this conversation. So I'm 436 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:22.639 gonna have to come back to you. But the reason I asked about the 437 00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.760 AI is what I was going to say to you. So maybe what I'll 438 00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:30.400 do is I'll ask you this, Tim, and then I'll just ask everybody 439 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.159 to react to this, and then I'll just, you know, just turn 440 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:36.519 everybody loose so that you could just talk about whatever you feel like, because 441 00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:39.760 that's what you should be doing. Anyway. What do you think AI can't 442 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:47.280 do, Tim, Well, do you main our AI or do you mean 443 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:52.000 the phenomenon? I mean, I mean from what we know, because we 444 00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.800 can only surmise, you know, we I think our leaders in tech have 445 00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:01.800 better projections of where we can take it. Then where then we you know, 446 00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:06.800 we're just guessing having fun talking about what they do with it. I'll 447 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:13.159 put it this way. I've been told by someone who works in that realm 448 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:20.360 that we would be truly shocked if we knew what the military and others had 449 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:24.239 the capability of doing. And he gave an example of this that this is 450 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:30.800 a reality that they do have the AI. That if you remember the old 451 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:36.039 X Man cartoon from the nineties, and they had the training room right where 452 00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:40.800 they would go in and it would simulate battles for the X Men. Trying 453 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:46.920 to remember what they called that. Well, imagine walking into a facility, 454 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:52.880 right and you open the door and you walk in, and you see an 455 00:36:52.920 --> 00:37:00.519 experience whatever it's programmed to be inside of there, everything in three dimensions with 456 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:04.119 the other people. You know. It came out the other day. Oh 457 00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.719 and similar to the holiday right on Star Trek. We can do that now, 458 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:12.440 That's what I've been told. It came out in public the other day 459 00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:20.079 that that AI can analyze the wireless signals in any facility and literally determine the 460 00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:24.920 people that are in there and all their postures and locations in the room based 461 00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:29.760 on dog a little while ago. I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, based 462 00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:34.880 on how the wireless signals are moving and bouncing around the room. That was 463 00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:38.440 revealed to the public. So to answer your question, I'm not sure what 464 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:43.760 AI can't do, but I think that we would be terrified if we knew 465 00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:55.000 what all we could do. I agree, but I okay, So no, 466 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:59.679 it's Testino. I like AI. I like to look into it, 467 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:06.639 you know, because I'm looking forward to my future companion robot obviously, so 468 00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:09.920 so one thing that it's having a problem with, you guys are laughing, 469 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:15.320 but I'm serious. I really want one. Yeah. So one thing it's 470 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:20.760 really having a problem with is learning, and that's why I was mentioning those 471 00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:27.440 neuromorphic computers. So they wanted to learn on its own, and it's not 472 00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.519 quite there yet. Like, there is a robot that's been in service for 473 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:36.000 years, and a lot of these projects are by private robot companies of course, 474 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:39.320 and others are by universities. That's really important to pay attention to, 475 00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:45.920 by the way, universities. But AnyWho, So they're trying to teach this 476 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:50.239 robot to learn things on its own, and that is like so simple for 477 00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:53.159 us as humans because we just teach our young and they learn and they continue 478 00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:58.519 there. They've had to find ways to teach robots and a lot of what 479 00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:02.320 they're doing is doing the action for them and then providing the robot with the 480 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.840 data set because it really isn't learning on its own per se yet. So 481 00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:14.920 that's one thing that it's not quite there yet. What can't AI do, 482 00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:21.079 Courtney, Well, I know it lies. I was back in Pennsylvania and 483 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:25.840 I was listening to a local radio station about this local author and he asked 484 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:30.480 Ai. It was one of the chats because he's the writer and so he's 485 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:35.599 using it to do research. He asked it about Leonore going to Mars as 486 00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:37.960 you know, this thought experiment, and the AI just starts lying. You 487 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.960 know about this Edgar Allambo this, you know, this this story that's been 488 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.679 around forever, and AI just starts going off the cuff. And so I 489 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:51.360 learned a lot about it because I didn't know AI could just be so you 490 00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.239 know, forthright and open about lying and so it just makes stuff up. 491 00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:58.119 And so I didn't realize that. I thought it actually had to like check 492 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.960 and proof. So I learned something about that. But one of the things 493 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.639 that I think humans do, and this has come up in our discussion tonight, 494 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.119 is feel compassion. You know, feel compassion. I'm not sure that 495 00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:14.239 you can give a machine necessarily, even AI with this advance. It is 496 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.480 that felt sense of what it is to be human. Maybe maybe, But 497 00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.239 I do think that we have an advantage because we're human and we have empathy 498 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:27.159 and compassion built in. Can I follow up even if you don't use the 499 00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:31.719 word compassion and you just cut it off as feel sure we feel because because 500 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:40.719 they you, I can't explain to you what a feeling is because we don't 501 00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:45.159 we don't we don't know what it is. We just know that that we 502 00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:46.719 emote, you know, like I've told these guys, you know, you 503 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:52.000 go to like for for people that we were sort of teenagers when I was 504 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:55.440 born. You know, it might have been going to see the Beatles and 505 00:40:55.599 --> 00:41:00.679 they would cry and stuff, and me going to you too in the eighties 506 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:07.480 when I was a high school kid and watching people tier and the emotion. 507 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:12.280 And I think we could take an AI robot and we could sit them next 508 00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:16.280 to me at you two, and we could program it to tear up when 509 00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:21.280 I start to tear up, you know, we can. We can program 510 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:23.719 the robot and when you see DJ do this, and when he goes like 511 00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:28.400 that and when you start to see this liquid coming down his face, you 512 00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.199 do the same thing. But I don't think. I think the reason that 513 00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:37.519 the phenomenon some of them have come and wanted to extract this biological material to 514 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:43.360 mix in with their machinery so they can hybridize it in some way is because 515 00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:47.639 they don't know how to feel. So they know we know how to feel, 516 00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.159 so if they can add that in, it can maybe change their birth 517 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:54.320 rate, and you know, who knows what. I can only surmise. 518 00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:58.840 But the only thing I can think of is what we what we have? 519 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:01.559 What we can can't explain how we do it. We just do it. 520 00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:06.440 I don't know what a feeling is. It just it's a feeling. Okay, 521 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:08.760 what's a feeling? Well, I can't explain it to a robot what 522 00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:13.440 a feeling is. You could have an AI. I can't say, oh, 523 00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:15.519 well, a feeling is when you feel something. Okay, what's that? 524 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:20.800 Well, I don't know. I just but I think they know what 525 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:22.480 it is. I think they value that. So I think that's what a 526 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:28.719 I can't do at this at least if I were to try to find a 527 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:34.000 reason why they would want to take human biology and extract it from a man 528 00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.760 or a woman and then return them back to Earth, like maybe they did 529 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:43.480 with Dan Sherman's mom. So if I don't want to scare you too much, 530 00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:50.320 DJ, But one of the things that DARPA was working on was impacting 531 00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:54.639 and this ties back to what was said earlier, impacting people with mental health 532 00:42:54.679 --> 00:43:05.159 issues with implants in the brain by signaling into the brain. So again like 533 00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:10.159 they're involving technology to impact feelings. I think it's good that you brought that 534 00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:15.239 up. When I went to look for this organic thing, this this chip 535 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:17.519 debt. That was one of the things in the research papers that I found 536 00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:22.840 that they wanted to work with people with autism on social emotional reactions to help 537 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.320 them. So I hadn't thought of that connection either, but you just brought 538 00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:30.159 it up. Can I reverse that? Though? So the problem is not 539 00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.239 that they can interact with our brain and make us feel, because we can 540 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:39.559 already feel. The problem is if we can take us and make a machine 541 00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:47.519 feel. That's the challenge is the opposite of that. No, I just 542 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.119 somebody I think. I just think we have to be real careful here. 543 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:57.960 And what something Courtney said brought up a memory. She talked about how Aila 544 00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:02.800 is and and it does like can everybody hear me, yes, sir. 545 00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.599 But it reminded me of something that Jacques Vallet said. Jacques Ballet said, 546 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:13.159 you know, he wasn't sure what the phenomenon was, but he was sure 547 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:19.280 of one thing that it deceives us. The phenomenon is a deceiver. And 548 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:21.840 so you may as you could call that lie. And so I think there's 549 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:27.519 an analogy or similarity to be drawn between the phenomenon and AI and the fact 550 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.639 that they both deceive us. They are both lying to us, and so 551 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:35.760 we need to be very careful what we think and what we think is being 552 00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:38.159 revealed to us. I want to circle back real quick on the TIC text. 553 00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:43.119 By the way, if you want a good analysis of the TIC tax 554 00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:49.239 situation, just google Kevin Kanuuth. He's a physicist. Kevin Kanuth paper on 555 00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:53.400 the TIC TACs in the Knemits and you can see a physics study and let 556 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:59.199 the physics and the mathematics tell you whether what you should think about it, 557 00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:05.480 and let that lead the way. The entire war Earth level of energy required 558 00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:09.599 to propel it. I don't remember the altitude you know, at that velocity 559 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:14.039 to propel it up to like eighty thousand feet once would have been like the 560 00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.519 entire Earth's worth of energy. There's many Like I said, there are many 561 00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:25.840 many reasons why. But it man, it's kind of like it's very difficult 562 00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:31.639 for people to understand that because they if you don't understand flight and what is 563 00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:37.199 involved in flight, then you can see something and say, oh, sure 564 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.159 we could do that, because you don't understand what conventional flight. What it 565 00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:50.360 takes to make an airplane or a helicopter hover is an incredibly energy consumptive process. 566 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.880 For any rotary wing aircraft, which is what the FA defines as a 567 00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:59.760 helicopter, is a rotary wing because what you're seeing are not fan blades like 568 00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:04.519 the in your fan at your house. They're actually shaped like wings that create 569 00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:08.239 their own lift. Irrespective of the fact that you have a collective that will 570 00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:15.239 then pitch those blades again, it's too much to get into because there's just 571 00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:17.559 too much involved in it. I wouldn't waste the time other than to tell 572 00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:22.400 you that if someone says that is a US, a Russian or a Chinese 573 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.559 tech, I'll say, okay, bring the arbiter of truth. I'll bet 574 00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:29.320 my life against yours. And no one's gonna take me up on that bet 575 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.599 because they know they don't that they won't have then either that or they're just 576 00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:37.320 a fool. So anyway, let's let's go with topics that you guys want 577 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.840 to talk about. Tim you've got something, you're you're either scolding one of 578 00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:45.960 your children, go ahead, going now, going out, get out of 579 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.159 here, no kids with me and rosa. But I wanted to circle back 580 00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.880 on Dead's topic earlier, and I was going to take it from a different 581 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:58.320 point of view. So there's some current news, breaking news today that the 582 00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:05.880 from FOIA. Okay, so the Air Force just released via FOYA some more 583 00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:10.320 information on this Air Force encounter over the Gulf of Mexico and there were four 584 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:20.119 UAPs involved. One of them was similar in shape and size to an Apollo 585 00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:24.400 craft. It was illuminated at the bottom, It was moving incredibly fast. 586 00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:30.639 It jammed our systems. The pilot one of the pilots managed to get a 587 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:35.119 screenshot of this object. This is the encounter, by the way that Matt 588 00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:40.199 Gates was talking about it one time. The other objects were not able to 589 00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:45.199 get a lock on them, but they also seemed to be jamming our systems. 590 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.199 So this is breaking today and you can go to Black Vault and check 591 00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:54.880 out more of this. But just last week, not Pasilka, but Luna 592 00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:59.840 represented Luna, who was kind of in this when Matt Gates on all this, 593 00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:06.119 she was asked about how she and Matt Gates had a classified briefing and 594 00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:13.440 somebody got tipped that perhaps they were briefed own alien bodies. So I want 595 00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:15.400 to know what y'all think, because I actually think that it feels like we're 596 00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:24.079 on the precipice of something really major being unveiled. Okay, here, my 597 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:28.679 cat is here, Hara, come on down, buddy. I've here, 598 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.719 I hear a couple of different things going on with the bodies. Okay, 599 00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:36.920 so there's there's a lot of information to mole over. It's one of the 600 00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:43.119 least likely to get hard evidence on, which makes sense because that would be 601 00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:47.639 the thing that most people would be most secretive or cautious about, right, 602 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:54.119 revealing actual bodies, Like they're just have this assumption that maybe we're not ready, 603 00:48:54.639 --> 00:49:01.639 you know, and that's unfair because obviously we've survived along dominence before other 604 00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:10.360 ones. So a few things. One is obviously Grush has mentioned biological material, 605 00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:16.400 right, so maybe something related to that was shown. But Jeremy Corbell 606 00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:24.199 says that that story about Luna is being misconstrued and that is not exactly what 607 00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:30.679 happened, But there might be a grain of truth to the rumors. So 608 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.159 I just wanted to throw that in there also for people to think about. 609 00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.840 So we don't know exactly what they saw, but I do think I have 610 00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:46.760 to mention I keep going back to that Skinny Bob series on YouTube and wondering 611 00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:52.800 what is the story with that, Like, why do we have those videos 612 00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:57.599 on YouTube with a person who's never like, no one's ever come forward and 613 00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.519 said they made that, And it's just so happened to have been put out 614 00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:07.199 around the time ALLSAP was around. No one's mentioned the connection between the timing 615 00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:13.760 with ALLSAF and those videos, So I don't know, man, there's a 616 00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:19.159 lot to think about. I'm sorry, Mike, Mike, Mike. Cat 617 00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:22.079 Hara is uh, she's very demanding and when she wants to be in front 618 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:28.280 of the camera, So anyway, I just want to say how annoying it 619 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.599 is. I can't tell you. I did a whole bunch of my flying 620 00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:35.719 time was at that base right next to Eggland, so we shot approaches to 621 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.679 the same areas and used the same training areas over the Gulf, and I 622 00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:43.800 never saw damn things. So I'm so pissed that those guys saw it and 623 00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.880 I didn't. I was at Herbert Field, which is about five miles from 624 00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:51.800 Eggland. But like I said, we both use all those same training areas, 625 00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:55.400 or you did say something, but you just can't tell. No. 626 00:50:55.519 --> 00:51:00.199 I mean, I mean back then, I wouldn't have said anything obviously, 627 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.320 you know, because you just didn't do that. You know, in that 628 00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:07.400 time, you would have gotten sent to the flight doc and probably grounded, 629 00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:13.360 so you wouldn't be talking UFOs and the cockpit. It was extremely intimidating just 630 00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:17.920 going there as a rookie. You just kind of you know, you just 631 00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:22.000 wouldn't do anything like that. But no, I really didn't see anything, 632 00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.800 but it would have been really cool if I did. But yeah, I 633 00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:28.639 don't know, do you do you? I mean, you're a news junkie 634 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:30.079 as well, Courtney. You get a lot of news. Do you have 635 00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:37.280 anything on Gates? Luna Gates is briefing about those craft and then the bodies 636 00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:43.000 more recently. I think it's just so fascinating because we were at the hearing, 637 00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:45.719 couple of us here, I know, Deb was there, and we 638 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:51.000 heard Gates in the open session say break ranks and talk about classified information. 639 00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:53.679 At the hearing, he talked about this information that just that's just come out. 640 00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:59.119 So I think that's amazing that it's actually out now and we can look 641 00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.960 at the dock documents because at the time he said, now tell me if 642 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:07.079 I'm incorrect, but I remember him saying that they showed up at the entrance 643 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:13.960 to the base, that they appeared, and so it sounds similar to me 644 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:19.719 to what some of the other pilots testified to that sometimes these you know, 645 00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:23.719 anomalous objects show up around bases, or they show up where we're doing training 646 00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:29.280 runs, and so I think that's a pattern obviously that is intelligent. Once 647 00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.679 again, like we talked about the radar being jammed last time, it shows 648 00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:37.239 that there is some intelligence behind this, which to me is also another a 649 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:42.199 piece of proof. And so I think the interesting thing is that you're seeing 650 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:46.480 the introduction, especially with Luna and Gates, now again with these bodies potentially 651 00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:50.960 and seeing a video. You know, they didn't say no, they didn't 652 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:53.360 see a video. They said no comment when the reporter asked if they were 653 00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:57.880 shown a video, which I also think is interesting, And how do you 654 00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.039 interpret that, you know, as people who are following the news, if 655 00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:04.039 they would have not they would say no, that's patently ridiculous. So I 656 00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:07.719 think it leaves the door open. And I also think that it's interesting that 657 00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:14.519 we're talking about bodies because when we saw the controversy around the Santilly video so 658 00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:19.400 long ago that was hotly debated and disputed, even by people like Kit Green 659 00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:22.719 who came out on I think it was above top speaker at the time, 660 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:24.000 and he even came out and weighed in on it at the time. So 661 00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:29.199 here we're seeing this all kind of repackaged, repurposed and coming out again. 662 00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:31.760 But it's actually in Congress. It's at a higher level. So when you 663 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:36.920 hear people like Luis Alsando, which today he came on speaking of news and 664 00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:40.559 said, hey, things are coming, you know, be aware, be 665 00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:45.360 tapped in, I think that this is all showing us how it's taken shape. 666 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:49.719 So that's what I that's my opinion about it. Man, what a 667 00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:52.920 great stitch. Back to the beginning of the show. I just want to 668 00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:57.039 say hello to a couple of people. We have tim is it Timothy Man? 669 00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:01.800 Timoth Man's goateee? How are you, Shelley? You got some interesting 670 00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:06.079 stuff. You're gonna have to tell us about this one the object let us 671 00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:12.599 get so close before shot up without turning, shot up without turning and at 672 00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.360 an angle and went into a tunnel. So you have to we'd love to 673 00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:22.159 hear more about that. So please DM somebody on the show, either Debs 674 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:27.119 or Courtney or Tim or myself so that we can hear about this and maybe 675 00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:30.920 we'll get you on here and talk about it. But yeah, welcome everyone, 676 00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:37.119 timoth Man, election reform or perish or right, everybody. We appreciate 677 00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:42.719 you guys being here. We only have about five minutes left, so let's 678 00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.800 just sort of anything that you guys want to discuss go around. Tim. 679 00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:50.360 Do you want to have a parting shot or something. Yeah, I've got 680 00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:53.280 a party shot. I was really hoping to catch doctor Crypele tonight. I'm 681 00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:55.559 said he couldn't be on. But one thing I want to talk about, 682 00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:59.519 you know, and y'all were to talk about this earlier, this notion of 683 00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:01.599 feeling, but I'm going to go beyond feelings, right, Like, it's 684 00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:07.519 obvious that humans have something different about us, and going back into biblical days 685 00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:12.760 and for most of humankind, we've called this the soul, right, But 686 00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:17.360 the problem is along with the soul comes some darker parts, right Like, 687 00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:22.320 if we do indeed have a soul, and going back to biblical times, 688 00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:23.960 you know, go all the way back to the Ark of the Covenant, 689 00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:29.159 and we're dealing with other technology and certain people who could communicate with the phenomenon, 690 00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:35.039 and we have this notion of heaven and hell. And if you do 691 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:40.159 believe in the soul, and you do believe in other worldly beings, and 692 00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:45.159 you do believe that they're interested in this soul of ours, you know, 693 00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:52.039 I can't think of anything more hellish than passing away and my soul being part 694 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:59.039 of in a container somewhere for some alien races whatever they're going to do with 695 00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:06.039 it. So that's what That's not a very happy passing thought, but you 696 00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:12.480 know, it's what it is. The only thing I'm worried about, you 697 00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:17.320 know, is if you and I get together in the afterlife, Tim and 698 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:21.280 me at my best, you at your best, and we play one on 699 00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:25.360 one in basketball, I know that I'm still going to get smoked even if 700 00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:30.480 I'm at the best DJ I've ever been in basketball. And that's kind of 701 00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:34.159 concerning because it's kind of a you know, it'll kind of be like a 702 00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:37.679 repeating death if we play over and over. No, it's not concerning. 703 00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:40.880 I'll tell you why, because I never was into this everybody gas trophy society 704 00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:45.400 that we're in now. So it's good to know you're not good at something 705 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:49.079 because that enables you to pursue things you are good at, like UFO research. 706 00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:52.639 So I think it's good that you don't think you're good at basketball. 707 00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:57.119 I'll give you a great example of this. My best friends, they were 708 00:56:57.159 --> 00:56:59.119 in the Gong Show. We used to have the Gong Show back in the 709 00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:01.559 day and high school, right it's kind of like the old school talent show. 710 00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:06.039 And they decided they're going to do a band. They're going to sing 711 00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:08.400 who put the bump in the bump? Bump the bump. And they got 712 00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:13.000 on stage they started doing this and everybody, I mean the whole school k 713 00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:15.599 through twelve. So they're throwing stuff at the stage, they're booing. They 714 00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:21.199 were so humiliated they rushed off stage, you know, head for like a 715 00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.800 week. But at least they didn't think they were good at singing, and 716 00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:29.320 so they all pursued things they were good at. Yeah. One yeah, 717 00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:31.320 one of them turned into a NASA engineer. Right now. Yeah, I 718 00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:36.639 think I have enough enough things that I'm not good at that. I I 719 00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:42.639 already have enough humility. But depth party shot, Yeah, I really have 720 00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:47.119 to mention us hose. And the reason I have to mention it is because 721 00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:52.079 we keep talking about examples of advanced technology. And I do not think people 722 00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:59.360 understand how much pressure there is in the depths of the ocean that it really 723 00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:01.920 crumpled most of the technology that we've tried to put down there. And we've 724 00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:07.719 heard some horrific examples of that in recent months that I won't won't get into 725 00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:12.800 right. So, if there's something that is capable of shooting out of the 726 00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.960 water, going up, disappearing, going into space, coming back, and 727 00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:22.119 going into the water again, that is definitely well advanced beyond what we can 728 00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:28.880 do, Like people don't understand, space is a lot less pressure. And 729 00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:32.000 just to throw it out there, Darcy Beer has a new USO documentary and 730 00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:36.679 I plan I'm watching it soon. Uh and when's he coming on? Debs? 731 00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:39.840 Oh you know you Yeah, you're gonna make me go look at the 732 00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:46.960 calendar. I was hoping you're going to promo it. Yeah, And I'm 733 00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:51.239 happy that he's going to come talk to us about that. And by the 734 00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:54.360 way, apparently Science Pop saw us, So just throwing it out there too, 735 00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:00.639 dude, Science Bob Man that brothers had paranormal Yeah, I think the 736 00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:02.039 only thing he hasn't had his big foot. But other than that, you've 737 00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:08.400 seen everything. So yeah, Darcy, we got a link. He said 738 00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:15.119 that to get with his promo his ad agency. I can't. I'm trying 739 00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:17.280 to think of public relations whatever. They'll give us the links so we could 740 00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:23.880 watch it in advance of him coming on Courtney A parting shot my friend. 741 00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:29.800 Yeah, well, I was getting prepared. I was going back and refamiliarizing 742 00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:32.480 myself with some of doctor Kreipel's work. You know, I saw him and 743 00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:37.119 met him for the first time down in Houston at the Archives of the Impossible, 744 00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:40.800 which was just an incredible, incredible conference. You know, everybody was 745 00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:45.559 there, all the all the thought leaders, and so I was reading his 746 00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:52.239 book The Flip again, rereading it, and I picked up something that he 747 00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:58.400 starts talking about really early on called cosmic mindedness, this bigger cosmic mind that's 748 00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:01.760 intelligent that we have access too right through our spirit or through our own mind 749 01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:06.199 or however. And I and it stood out to me because I was thinking 750 01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:09.840 about that, like consciousness and this whole you know, this whole AI debate 751 01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:13.880 that we're having, and so, you know, what makes us human. 752 01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:16.039 I think I'm just going to go into some of my own research for my 753 01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:22.159 PhD, which is on near death experiences. And so one of the thing 754 01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.119 that I think when you're looking at these patterns about the soul and these frightening 755 01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:29.039 things that come up, like we've heard about, you know, where these 756 01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:32.119 et one theory is that they're taking our souls and putting them in these containers 757 01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:37.840 and somehow controlling our spirit. I look to the I look to the near 758 01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:40.719 death research because most of these people who go and pass over to the other 759 01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:45.920 side and have clinical death, it's very similar. They either see a guardian 760 01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:51.199 or a deity or a god, or some feel this huge expansiveness or even 761 01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:54.559 an ancestor when they come back into this physical reality. And so I always 762 01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:59.239 think to myself, well, while that also might be true, we have 763 01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:02.039 this body of research from these individuals who have gone on to the other side 764 01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:06.239 and have sovereignty over their own spirit and even whether they want to come back 765 01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:09.360 here. So that's one counterpoint that I use against the ship. With the 766 01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:15.880 bodies and the souls in the in the container, we're more than just a 767 01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:19.800 meat suit. So that's that's my parting shot. And I do think we 768 01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.239 have the ability to connect to this cosmic mindedness. And if AI does have 769 01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:25.599 a purpose. Maybe that will help us in that way be a bridge through 770 01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:29.920 breakthrough science. That would be pretty cool. That would be an advantage. 771 01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:35.639 Isn't the fact that we even reach out to the cosmos and try to understand 772 01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:40.000 these things and try to go into space an example of how special humans are 773 01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:46.800 and something that might attract the attention of other intelligences. Yeah, just throwing 774 01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:52.159 it out there, most certainly. And it also may have been the Trinity, 775 01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:57.320 you know, explosions in New Mexico and what here was that was that 776 01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:00.960 like forty three? I can't remember now, but yeah, no, I 777 01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:04.159 you know, I mean, yeah, there's a lot of reasons. I 778 01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:07.199 know, like the Neil de Grasse Tyson thing I won't even address because you 779 01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:10.719 know, I don't need to address like that kind of small minded idiocy. 780 01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:15.880 I don't care you know how many degrees he has, it's not the thing. 781 01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:17.119 And in fact, tonight, you know, we were going to have 782 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:21.480 a PhD, but we got one and a half PhDs in his place, 783 01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:24.719 so right now, I like we're up by half a PhD. So, 784 01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:30.480 But doctor Krypol, we love you. You were so very very kind last 785 01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:36.400 time that you were on, especially with Matt's story. That he was telling 786 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:44.480 and we really look forward to you coming here shortly. So Shelley, Shelley 787 01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:52.159 Montgomery here and if you could read this one, Courtney, it's on the 788 01:02:52.159 --> 01:03:00.440 screen you Okay, I thought it was a private chat times three. I 789 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:05.039 want to tell you something else I found interesting. Okay, Well, let's 790 01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:08.760 let's share. Let's share about it, all right, Shelley DM one of 791 01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:13.800 us, and let's figure out what this is before my cat destroys the computer. 792 01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:19.000 Harah. My cat, the black panther that I call her, is 793 01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.639 now behind the computer. Her face is right next to the screen, and 794 01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.480 it's only going to be a moment before she does something to upset the entire 795 01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:30.159 show. For my parting shot, I just want to say thank you everybody. 796 01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:37.719 Money, Nathan, we missed you tonight. Boy. Lou certainly brought 797 01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:40.960 a lot of eyeballs to the show. Tonight probably hit a record for us. 798 01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:46.559 And that's including Lou's first appearance in Jim semi Van's appearance. But let's 799 01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:50.360 see what's what do we got next? Uh? What do we got next? 800 01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:53.360 Up? Debs? Is it Terry Wendell? Do we have big Foot 801 01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:59.639 next? I'm pulling up the calendar it's happening right now. Yeah, I 802 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.440 want to say, DJ, you're very grady to sit with someone named Harrah. 803 01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:09.599 You know, yeah, she's kind of violent reputation. I mean, 804 01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:15.800 she is an absolute monster Island. I mean, you know, you've got 805 01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:21.519 to be fierce to sit in her company. She is extremely, extremely demanding 806 01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:29.800 of in my five pet family, she's quite unique. But anyway, now, 807 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:35.079 don't eat the screen, Harry, what's that the thirteenth? Yeah, 808 01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:41.480 okay, right, Williams and Terry Windel. Yeah, so before we get 809 01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:45.559 into that, I appreciate everybody stopping by. If you would take the time. 810 01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:50.119 We are not monetized. If you would just give us a like or 811 01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:56.239 give us a subscribe on YouTube or Twitter, we would greatly appreciate that. 812 01:04:57.239 --> 01:05:02.159 So Tim right here is the host of All Things Unexplained. They have a 813 01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:08.880 great show along with fellow former educators. Actually Smitty is still an educator in 814 01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:15.960 Mississippi. Uh and CJ's former educator and mom uh and Tim, who you 815 01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:21.800 know has a mohawk and needs hair gel, so there's that, and has 816 01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:29.039 a very low body fat percentage. Courtney and Debs have anomalist debates. We're 817 01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:31.239 hoping that some of you guys are going to be now she's reaching out for 818 01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:34.360 the printer, so she's going to see if maybe she can knocket him print 819 01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:41.519 up. Uh. But Courtney and Debs have the show called Anomalist Debates. 820 01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:46.039 They are waiting for people who have argued but want to settle down into a 821 01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:53.440 Lincoln Douglas format debate. They haven't told me if they're gonna let me give 822 01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:57.079 them a judge or not for the debate. A proposal for that. By 823 01:05:57.119 --> 01:05:59.960 the way, I forgot, yeah, Tim has stepped up to the plate. 824 01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:01.920 I forgot. Yes, I will tell you about that, Courtney, 825 01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:06.440 I will tell you. Don't worry all right, So we will be back. 826 01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:13.559 Our next show is gonna be Bigfoot related. We're having on prolific habituator 827 01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:20.519 from Oklahoma, Arla Williams and her friend from Terry Wendell from rock Hill Bigfoot 828 01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:25.400 in rock Hill, South Carolina, and Terry has been out to our list 829 01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:30.639 property. We actually you know, know them separately, but but Arla is 830 01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:36.559 quite legendary for people who have had experiences on her property over the course of 831 01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:42.679 many years. So so that'll be coming up next. So thank you everybody. 832 01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:45.800 I appreciate you guys. Coming in and hanging out while doctor Cripel couldn't 833 01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:48.960 be here. Nathan, one love, and to all you guys out there, 834 01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:51.719 Julie, thank you so much. Yeah I'm babbling, No, that's 835 01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:57.360 me, but yeah, I know. Harrah is just gonna just she wants 836 01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:00.599 to destroy something. Julie, thank you very much for getting out of the 837 01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:04.079 car and coming in to do this. We love and appreciate you and we'll 838 01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:09.480 see you soon. So for Tim, for Debs, for Courtney, this 839 01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:14.800 is DJ saying peace out, one love, We'll see you down the road. 840 01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:16.440 And as always, we're wondering what's up around the Bend.