Hi, and welcome back to give us mark. I'm Nev, I'm Megan
And if you noticed last week there was no Niven Meghan. It was Megan
and Ash sure was. Ash was super super nice to send us over with
the first and second episode from our series that we covered to the Black Daddia
on Well more so her likely killer. Um fuck, I can't remember his
name anyway, the sun like heavily is like, I think my dad killed
her. Yeah, he like wrote like three books in it. He also
thinks his dad is the Zodiac Killer. For that, I don't think the
dad well, he had like the IQ of like Albert Einstein or something.
It is because he like lived in San Francis. Am I right? San
Francisco? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, he lived in like San Francisco roughly
around the time that the like murders the Zodiac Killer like started. But I
do believe he would have been maybe a bit old Zodiac. Whenever I think
of the Zodiac, I think he's like an old dude, an old I
do think he is an older guy, but I don't know, and I
don't know jack shit. Really, we have never covered the Zodiac no,
which is surprising because I mentioned the case quite rightly. I know jack shit
about that, so we should we should cover that. Shoud I guess on
a Sam situation on the zodiac and that would be super fun because I really
want to know who killer is. Yeah, that's like your main thing,
what keeps me up at night. So yeah, last week heard me and
Ash, and the week before that you heard the three parts by Nive on
the Yorkshire Ripper. And this week, yet again, she's carrying the fucking
Her back is aching. Knive's back is breaking and aching because she's carrying this
fucking podcast or swear god, and she is going to be telling us another
case today. I mean, my back is aching and breaking, but not
from carrying the podcast. It's just don't break my back ache, you break
you back. It's just it's just health problems, not not anything serious.
If you don't laugh, you're cry, and I've already done that. So
just me in a corner like that's me in the corner, corner, that's
me in the spot, like me in fiber miles. Yeah tune and I
want that played at my funeral. And anyways, most definitely not carrying the
podcast because I would be nothing without an editor, because I say some stupid
shit sometimes you guys, do we all do? I really need Megan to
filter me every now and again. If you can't say that, people listen
that we know and I'm like, oh yeah, no, let me go
betteror not just put my personal life all out on this past. We're always
like, we may as well at this point give our fucking social Security number
out because we have said everything hones damn podcast, swear to God. So
this week I have a super interesting case. It is the Springfield Three,
which I don't know if many people know what the Springfield Three are. And
let me tell you. The Springfield Three are three missing women Cheryl Levett forty
seven, her daughter Susanne Suzie Streeter, and her friend Stacy McCall eighteen,
who all mysteriously disappeared from their home in Springfield, Missouri, on June seventh,
nineteen ninety two. Sharyl Levitt was the mother of Suzanne Streeter, and
she goes by Susie. She was forty seven years old at the time of
her disappearance. Cheryl was a cosmetologist, She was a single mother, and
she was very close with Susie, so close in the fact that Susie wanted
to start working in cosmetology as well when she graduated school. Ah, that's
so sweet, isn't it. Susie Streeter was nineteen years old at the time
of her disappearance. She had just graduated from Kickapoo High School, which,
yes, that is the name of the high school. I googled it several
times because I felt like the Internet was trying to play joke on me.
It's called Kickapoo. Do you have a song called Kickapoo? I thought it
was a joke. I was like, good one, Internet not falling for
it. No, that's a real place. Just another time. The Internet
never lied. People don't lie on the Internet. Nope. Never. Her
friend Stacy McCall, was eighteen years old at the time of her disappearance.
Susie and Stacy had plans to go to college together and they wanted to have
a super adventurous summer before they started this brand new chapter in their life.
They had just graduated high school. Live in the dream. That's so cute,
I know, isn't it. The pair had actually graduated from Kickapoo High
School on June sixth, nineteen ninety two, so the day before they were
officially just like missing. They had plans to go to a party in Branson,
Missouri, which was about thirty minutes from Springfield, with a mutual friend,
Janelle Kirby. The three girls were going to spend the night in Branson
at a motel, and then the next morning they wanted to go to Whitewater
Amusement Park, which I believe is kind of like what Potato Park would be
to us. Yeah, but is the mascot and actual Potato. He's gone
now It's Emerald Park now of our culture. This is disgusting. Why would
they do that? They had a good thing going any but angry about that.
However, the plan didn't happen, and the three girls decided to go
back to Springfield to Janelle's house and spend the night there instead of in Bronson,
and then they were going to go to the Whitewater Amusement Park the next
day from Janelle's house. When they got to Janelle's house, that they found
it was overcrowded because Janelle had a lot of family staying due to the graduation
being on. Yeah. At around two am, Susie and Stacy decided that
they were going to go sleep in Susie's house because because of this, and
they told Janelle that they would ringer in the morning so that they could organize
what time they were going to leave and you know, whose care they going
to take and all that kind of stuff. Our witness saw Susie and Stacy
on Battlefield Road at about two thirty am, and it is believed that the
two girls got home to Susie's house with any issues. Cheryl was last heard
from between eleven to eleven thirty pm that night. She was talking to a
friend on the phone about a project she was planning on starting soon. Nobody
saw or heard anything suspicious between eleven pm and two thirty am, However,
that was the last time anyone ever heard or saw those three women again.
Okay, because I got a little bit kind of confused there. So there's
Janelle Cheryl, and there is Susie Cheryl and Stacy. Janelle is there a
friend whose house that they went to, but her house was too overcrowded,
so they left to go to Susie's house, right, Okay, So Janelle
is just like a mutual friend of theirs, Right, Okay, I get
you now. Sorry. The next morning, Janelle rang Susie's house to you
know, start confirming the plans for the day. It was going to take
a while, I believe, to get up to Whitewater amusement parks, so
like they needed to leave early and so get the day a going on.
Yeah, yep. After a few calls, Janelle left messages for the girls
because obviously nobody was answering, and she was asking them to call them back
because she was like, it's getting you know. No, it was still
like I think it was like nine thirty or something like that in the morning,
but because they wanted to like make a day of it and stuff,
it was kind of like you should be up by now. Yeah. Yeah.
Janelle decided that she was going to go around to Susie's house to see
what was going on, and her boyfriend came with her. The couple arrived
at Susie's house at around nine am. To look at the house. On
the outside, you would not suspect anything had happened. Nothing seemed out of
the ordinary. All the cars were still in the driveway. They did notice
that the porch light was still on, but the casing of the light,
so the like glass casing that like would cover the light had been smashed,
and all the broken glass was all over the porch. Janelle's boyfriend swept up
the glass to move it out of the way because he knew that something like
that would drive Cheryl mad, like she hated like her porch being dirty.
And then he also was like, in case anyone came out in their bare
feet and they stepped on the glass, I'm just gonna sweep this to the
side. That was nice of them, yea super nice. Oh god,
damn it. This did destroy vital evidence, did nothing of that, did
nothing at all. Yeah, he was only trying to be a good guy.
I get but you know, and I get that, like they didn't
think anything was wrong, do you know sometimes maybe just leave stuff alone.
Yeah, poor guy, I can you imagine, like I do something nice
and then you're told, like, why did you do that? I'm I'm
sorry. Never sleep again, or sweep again, or sweep again. He's
like, I'm never sweeping ever again. The front door was unlocked, so
the pair entered the home. At first, nothing seemed out of the ordinary.
The TV was playing static, the beds did appear to have been slept
in. All of the women's purses were stacked together on the kitchen counter along
with her jewelry. Cheryl was a chain smoker, and her cigarettes were still
on the kitchen counter, along with a check that was yet to be deposited
into the bank. So Janelle and her boyfriend began to feel like super concerned
and they started to get a real sense of dread because like, Cheryl's a
chain smoker and there's her cigarettes on the counter. The three women are not
in the house. The telly is still on, but it's playing static because
it's been on for so long. But yeah, all three cars, like
Cheryl's car, Susie's car, and Stacy's car are like still in the driveway.
Yeah, it's like they're starting to feel like a bit like the fuck
is going on? Like where are they? Yeah, and like why is
there Juiciery just kind of casually out exactly as they searched the house, they
found Susie's Yorkshire terrier, Cinnamon. Isn't that so cute? The dog seemed
to be agitated and frantic, like obviously the way it was barking and stuff,
but like the dog would have been like used to Janelle, so like
it shouldn't have been barking if you get me. Yeah, can you imagine
that? Poor dog is like, where the fuck is my owners? What
the fucking balls is going on? Cinnamon is losing his shit? Someone fucking
feed me. I'm gonna shit all over this house. Don't let me outside.
I'm gonna shit on these walls. I'm all over these walls. Right,
I'm a pissing your mouth. I'm a shit on these walls. I'm
a shit on these walls. Ray too dirty. She is such an iconic
character in that movie What It's Lavery Day? Like, I love her,
I love it. She almost makes the movie. Yeah she wasn't in it
wouldn't be half as good. Definitely not so. Janelle began to panic that
something had happened to her friends and her friends ma'am. As they were searching
the house. The phone rang, and Janelle answered it in case it was
any one of the three women like she answered it thinking like, oh,
maybe it's them calling. Yeah, why they'd be calling their own house,
I don't know, but at that stage you're just like, just in case
it's them. Instead, it was a strange man who began saying weird sexual
comments in graphic detail. Down the phone got in front of Cinnamon. Janelle
immediately hung up. Shortly after, the phone rang again, and when Janelle
answered it, it was the same man still making these lude sexual comments.
Janelle hung up straight away. She did tell the place about this later on,
however, they just put it into a silly little prank call. Oh
oh oh. They must often get horny men like saying nasty shit as a
silly little prank call. The police never searched more into these phone calls.
Someone else got phone calls as well, and they just never really looked into
it. And it was kind of like, but what even if this wasn't
part of a bigger investigation, I feel like, if somebody is reporting this
to you should look into it. I feel like, even if it has
nothing to do with the three moons disappearance, someone is ringing people. You're
in town and being these walls right, and they're just like silly little prank
calls. Okay. I guess Janelle and her boyfriend left the house after this,
and Janelle just assumed that her friends had maybe gone to the water park
without her. She was like, maybe I missed them. Maybe they tried
to call me, couldn't get a hold of me. And just decided to
go one up. I don't know, and like you have to remember,
like she's like seventeen eighteen, Like she's like, nah, they're not murdered.
It's fine. Yeah, of course you're gonna. That's not gonna be
your thought. You're gonna they went to the water park without me, you
know what. They're three friends and then it never works out with the fourth
friend. I get it. Stacy McCall's mother, Janice, was unaware that
Stacy was at Susie's house. The last she had heard from Stacy was that
the girls were planning to sleep at Janelle's house. So in the morning,
Janice had called Janelle's home after not hearing from Stacy for a while, and
she was informed that she was not there, that she was probably at Susie's
house. So she's like, okay. Normally, like she'd call me just
to be like, hey, I'm okay, by the way, yeah,
about to head off to the water park. I'll see in a little bit,
but she hadn't, so she was like, I'm just going to call
quickly and make sure that everything's okay. And then they were like, oh
no, no, she's more than likely at Susie's eye. She didn't super
classic switchy Rue switch Rue. After almost the full day had gone by without
hearing from Stacy, so Janice decided that she was going to go over to
Susie's house to see what was going on. It was late in the evening
when Janice arrived. When Janice and her eldest daughter, Lisa arrived, they
arrived to the front door being unlocked and the shattered glass in a tidy pile
beside the door, which mean I know is from Jane's boyfriend. Janice found
the same scene inside the house as Janelle, the TV playing static, the
women's purses in a pile on the kitchen counter. Janice noticed that Stacy's swimsuit,
her change of clothes, and her makeup was all organized in a neat
pile in the corner of Susie's room. And this was when Janice decided she
needed to call the police. Sixteen hours into the women's disappearents. So when
was it originally found? Because first they went over, Janelle and her boyfriend
went over at nine am at what time with the police called sixteen hours later?
That's a long ass time. That's a long time. Well, so
the women where it was probably more No, wouldn't have been, sorry,
my body wouldn't have been sixteen hours later. The two girls were last seen
at two thirty am. Stacy and Susie were last seen at two thirty AM,
So probably sixteen hours from two thirty, which would be you're talking six
in the evening. That's a lot of mats um, yeah, roughly.
Yeah, Yeah, that's that's it's a long time. It's a full day.
Yeah, it's it's a full day that nobody had heard from like,
nobody had heard from the two girls or Susie's mother, do you know what
I mean? I mean yeah. And then at the same time, they
graduated the day before, so yeah, they're probably thinking of it. Yeah,
probably parodying, Yeah, exactly. It's like not too suspicious, but
at the time the same time, it's a little suspicious. Janice was searching
like through the house and she accidentally deleted a suspicious voicemail from a male making
sexual comments off the system. Police believed that the voicemail was not connected to
the phone calls that Janelle had received when she was at the house. Hew
mate, what So Janelle had been in the house at nine am right,
got two two phone calls. She answered that phone twice and it was the
same man making these weird sexual company. Nowhere could I find what these sexual
comments like, they're just weird sexual comments that he was making that made her
really super fucking uncomfortable. Then Janice Stacy's mother is in the house, like
what eight hours nine hours later, and there's a voicemail of a man making
weird sexual comments and she accidentally deletes it and she tells police like, hey,
I was just trying to see if I could go through it to see
if, like any of the girls had left a voicemail. I accidentally deleted
this, And they're like, it's probably nothing, not related to that girl,
to that girl that told us about those weird phone calls. They're different,
they're different phone calls. How many men around your ten go around your
town doing that? Because it all seem to have a perfect problem. The
weirdo on the loose must be several. While Janice was waiting on the police
to get to the house, family and friends came over to sit with her
in Cheryl's home. So like the crime scene trampling all over the crime scene.
Hello, were these people trained by the same cops who did John Banas,
I honestly think so. While there, some of them decide that they
were going to start cleaning around the house, wiping down countertops, moving things
around, just trying to keep busy while they're waiting on the cops to arrive.
Did we learn nothing from Johanvaney because John Banay was before this, right,
that was like ninety seven. This is ninety nine. No, this
is nineteen ninety two. So no, Actually they should have learned from this
case. Okay, PSA, if you're waiting on cops to come and try
find you're missing friends, slash family, wait outside, wait outside, don't
fucking clean. Wait, don't clean, don't clean. I know you're trying
to do it a kindness, but just doing anyone a kindness. This obviously
naturally did destroy any possible evidence that was laying around the house. So when
police arrived, they said that they would file the missing missing person reports on
the three women. There was nothing further that they could do until morning because
it was late in the night at the stage. The police then asked Janice
to obtain Stacy's dental records straight away. This is something that stuck out to
a lot of people, and they find this strange because it is a really
odd thing to do that the first thing you do is say, by the
way, I need your daughter's dental records in a missing person's case. Yeah,
that would have my backup a big time, Like no, a bit,
what do you know? This? This led a few people to believe
that there is like a cover up somewhere in the police force in Springfield and
that they already had at least Stacy's body. S realiss, this is called
Springfield And now all I can think of is Chief Wigham involved in a massive
coup. I mean fucking sense like Chief Wigham. So ky Janice started to
immediately gather some photos of Stacey, and she created a missing person's flyer,
and she did this for all three women, like she did this for Cheryl
and Susie as well, which like fair play tour like even though like obviously
your main focus was going to be on your child, she's like, you
know there's other there's a woman and her child missing, also fair play.
Janis and the community went around Missouri handing out flyers to all of the shops
and to anyone that would take them in, which actually in like some of
the shops in Missouri. Do some of them still have the posters up?
Oh? That is absolutely heartbreaking. After days of no leads, eventually a
local waitress from George's Breakfast Restaurant, which was the favorite restaurant of Cheryl and
Susie, came forward stating that she remembered seeing the three women in the restaurant
the night that they disappeared, between one and three am. However, the
police could not get anyone to corroborate her story, as no one else remembered
seeing them. Okay. The police then began to look into the personal lives
of the three women in the hopes that it would give them some sort of
lead. You know, like ex boyfriends, ex husbands, you know,
all that unusual. Yeah. Police then learn of Bart Street, the brother
of Susie and the son of Cheryl. Bart was nine years older than Susie.
In the early nineteen eighties, Cheryl had kicked Bart out of the house,
stating quote, if you want to live under my roof, you have
to abide by my rules. According to Bart, Bart had a drinking problem
and other issues. He had been estranged from his family for almost ten years
when he moved back to Springfield, Susie and Bart became close again, and
the siblings moved into an apartment together. However, things didn't last long and
Bart started drinking again. Susie and Bart then began to argue over his drinking,
and things eventually turned violent when Bert attacked Susie and that's when Susie moved
back in with Cheryl. Police questioned Bart over the women's disappearances, but he
was eventually cleared as a suspect. And to this day, Bert is haunted
by the fact that he never got to make things right with his mother or
his sister. Yeah, that would be rough. It's something that like really
sits with him now. And I think he even still was recently like arrested
on like drug chargers and stuff. So obviously is something that he's just never
been able to overcome. God bless him. It must be really hard,
Like obviously anything trying to give any addiction up is incredibly difficult. But then
when you have something heavy is like you're fucking family disappearing disappearing, and then
the police as well like questioning you for it. Yeah, and I get
that they have to question these people like completely, but you have to question
these people just to rule them out. But in a case of like his,
that's something that it's like, fuck, they think I'd done it and
do you know? Yeah, it's like which is sad because it was something
that I think he wanted to eventually do. It was like make things right.
Yeah. The police then learned of Susie's ex boyfriend, Dustin Reckler.
Well Susie and Justin were together. Dustin had been arrested with his friend Michael
Clay for breaking into a mausoleum and stealing gold teeth from a corpse inside the
mausoleum. You yep. Michael and Dustin then sold the gold teeth to a
pawn shop. When Susie learned of this, she broke things off with Dustin
naturally, and it was reported that Susie was even going to go and testify
on behalf of the prosecution against Dustin and Michael. Wow, that sounds like
a big fat motive if I've ever heard one. I swear Dustin and Michael
had a lot of anger towards Susie and her friends. There were reports that
Michael was overheard stating I wish all three women are dead. Sorry, that's
just like I wish for all three women to disappear between the hours of three
and nine. So specific, isn't it. When the two men were questioned
about the women's disappearances, they both had alibis. However, no one was
ever able to confirm these alibis. Police, however, did not have enough
evidence to ever charge them with the crime. Police weren't even sure what crime
it was that they were supposed to charge them because the women are missing,
and do charge them with murder? Do you? Because it's early on in
the investigations, so it's like, are they alive? They just kidnapping?
Is a murder? Like? Well, Dustin and Michael are still considered persons
of interest in the case today. Yeah, I concur I think that they
are from the line so far the most likely suspects. Yes, if it's
not a stranger, if it's not a stranger. A woman then called police
with a tip that on the morning of the women's disappearance, she was sitting
out on her front porch at around six thirty am when she saw a Dodge
Panel van with a silver to green hue driving past. It looked to be
a nineteen sixties or nineteen seventies model. It drove past her house, and
a woman driving it looked very distressed. She also said that she could hear
a male voice coming from inside the van yelling back out slowly and don't do
anything stupid. How she heard that from a moving van? Who knows?
Maybe it was like a slow moving Did you ever see that video of a
ring camera and there's a woman standing out on her front porch and there's like
a car driving by, and all you can hear is a woman's voice going
like help it help help. You're gonna hear it as it's coming up the
road. It's mad. I only have only seen the video. I don't
know like any background to it or anything. The woman later identified the driver
as Susie Street. The police decided to place a similar ran outside the police
department with like all the numbers to call on it, in the hopes that
it was going to jog people's memory in seeing the van. A paper boy
who had been delivering papers late at night the same night the women went missing,
came forward saying that he saw the van, but it was a brown
color, wasn't a silver to green hue. Janice never gave up on trying
to find her daughter or Susie or Cheryl. She would phone national news stations
to try to keep the story in the news all across America. And this
led to a tip from a guy in Florida, Florida, Florida. And
we're just going to take a quickly a led Bricue and Rebecca. So the
police have been given a tip about a guy from Florida. He told the
police to look into Robert Craig Cox, and he claimed this man had killed
his sister, Sharon Zeller. Sharon was a nineteen year old that was allegedly
murdered by Robert in nineteen seventy eight. At the time, Robert had been
in the area celebrating with his family for completing basic training with the Army.
Robert was staying at a hotel with his parents, and late one night,
Robert arrived back to the hotel room with blood coming from his mouth and his
tongue partially bitten off. Jesus. Robert was brought to the er and told
the nurses he had accidentally bitten off his own tongue. Shortly after, Sharon
Zeller's body was then found one hundred feet from the hotel that Robert was staying
at Police were unable to formally charge Robert with the murder as they had no
DNA evidence. They ever find his tongue half tongue, I don't know.
Robert then went off and joined the army. In nineteen eighty five, he
was dishonorably discharged from the army and was charged and convicted of kidnapping and assaulting
two women. He was then charged with Sharon's murder and was placed on death
row. But Robert fought these charges and he won because there was a lack
of DNA so he was able to get the conviction overturned. That's dis graceful.
Robert then moved to Springfield and he got himself a job working for Stacy's
father. Oh. When police questioned Robert about the women's disappearance, he told
them he spent the night with his girlfriend and then went to Mass the next
morning. He would say that liars do pretend they go to church. They
do. Robert's girlfriend then confirmed his alibi. However, three years later,
Robert's arrested for holding a gun on a twelve year old girl. Robert,
get your fucking shit together, Jesus my god. He was then arresting,
isn't he? He was then arrested for armed robbery and he is currently serving
a life sentence in jail. He should have been there like a long time
ago. Yeah, I really should have. Robert remained a prime suspect for
years. During an interview TV years later, he told reporters, quote,
I can tell you that I know three women are dead, and that the
person who committed the crime had experience and they were buried close to Springfield.
Don't want to expand on that a little bit more, Robert, please,
thank you. Police did take the statement very very serious. However, they
did have concerns that Robert was just trying to get like a little bit of
fame, like a little bit of Oh my god, who's this guy.
And then Robert's now ex girlfriend because she dumped his ass for holding a gun
on a twelve year old and like she should came forward and stated that she
lied all those years ago and that Robert had not spent the night with her
and she did, in fact not know where he was the night the three
women went missing. Robert has made the claim that he will tell the truth
when his mother passes away, as he doesn't want to cause her any more
grief, which is like, people believe that's him saying I did kill them.
I am, and I will tell you but just when my mother dies.
But then an awful lot of people also believe that he's just saying that
to keep himself relevant. Oh yeah, I can see both sides. A
man by the name Stephen Garrison soon became a suspect when he told police that
his friend had drunkenly told him at a party that he had killed three missing
women. Stephen then went on to give police information that was not public knowledge.
Police followed Stephen's quote unquote tips, which brought them to two different properties,
and at one of the properties they found a green moss colored fan and
then like obviously they figured out that like no friend had told him this,
that he in fact was the friend. Oh I see, so he's like,
yeah, my friend told me. Ted Bundy did the same thing because
he didn't ever want to confess and be like, yeah I did this,
but he was like if a guy was to do this, like my friend,
Like, pal, are you that friend? Are you that friend?
I think you were. A judge then ordered a gag order on the search
warrants of these two properties, so no one actually knows what police found or
what they were even looking for when they were searching them. I wonder why
that is m same Stephen is now serving time in prison for assaulting a college
student in nineteen ninety three, and he still remains a person of interest.
There are so many unanswered questions in this case. How did anybody manage to
abduct three women without a single person noticing? How did they manage to leave
little to no evidence behind? There are too many theories as to what happened,
one being that the women were being watched and followed, another that whoever
took them was pretending to be law enforcement to gain access to the house,
another that law enforcement something to do with the disappearances. A woman came forward
and said that she believed the three women had been buried under the foundations of
a parking lot at Cox Hospital in Springfield. The parking lot was under construction
at the time of their disappearances. This woman paid she used her own money
to have a specialist use excavation equipment to try see if there was any remains
underneath the foundation, and this proved that there were three items, possibly bodies,
lying on top of each other in the parking lot garage underneath the concrete
Jesus. There is no evidence that it is the three women. However,
police refused to dig up the parking lot, stating it would cost too much,
despite the hospital granting permission to dig up anything if it helps find the
women. The woman was too stunned to speak. I don't know what to
say to that. Most commonly, people believed that the three women were abducted
by professionals and sold into the world of human trafficking. That last theory is
the one that is to me the scariest, and it's the one that's more
the most likely. Yeah, sex trafficking is like, this is nineteen ninety
two. Sex trafficking is rampant, but it's something that's not talked about,
and so it's something that they don't know to look out for. So if
someone pulls up to the house and it's like, hey, can I come
in and use your phone, they're like, sure thing, you know what
I mean, Yeah, it's fucked. I don't know. It kind of
makes me think that it's somebody that they know, because in my head,
the way it's playing out is that the person went up to the porch,
and I tried to knock the light so that when they turn on the light
they wouldn't be able to it wasn't the door. Exactly the theory with the
police being involved, I get it, because why won't they dig up the
like why won't they dig it up? They dig it up? And why
did they ask for dental records? Yeah, but in saying that as well,
I just think it's more than likely I there has to have been more
than one abductor, because how do you get three women? How do you
get how do you take three women without a peep or without leaving behind some
sort of evidence unless he had a big gun or some sorry even still think
the dog or something. I don't know. In that scenario, if there's
three of you and there's one like intruder, you would think to yourself,
we could overpower it, like there's three against one here. And I think
that's why a lot of people think that it was somebody that they knew,
or like somebody in law enforcement, like somebody that they trusted that when he
came in, that it was a case of So I believe what's commonly thought
of is that it is sex traffic, but it was organized by someone that
they knew, and like an officer came in and said, hey, look,
I need us to vacate the premises because there is a madman on the
loose and can keep you safe. So I need you to come at me.
Yeah, and like that's how he yeah, and that's how like you'd
take three women without a single fuss. Janice McCall has never given up the
hope that maybe her daughter is still alive. She hopes and believes that Stacy
would still be found. Janice founded a nonprofit organization to try help other families
of missing people. Every year, Janice Hope hosts a visual for Stacy,
Susanne, and Cheryl. If you, the listener, are from the area
and have any information regarding the three women, you can leave an anomalous tip
with the Springfield Police Department. You can text four one seven SPD along with
your tip two two seven four six three seven, or you can call four
one seven eight sixty nine eight four seven seven. Good damn. And that
is the case. The women are still missing eleven years, eleven years to
hear me thirty one years later. That is absolutely haunting. Yeah, this
is the part when I say this is an interesting case. I find it's
so interesting that someone managed to just break in and take three women and nobody
saw a single fucking thing. Yeah. Or there's another thing. What if
he was never in the head. Well, no, because the purses were
there, because my brain went to, like they were seen at the diner,
by your words, diner. What if they were coming in and he
got them just as they were coming in, he waited in the porch.
See the reason the person's stuff, but because well as well as like um,
Stacy's like clothes were in the house and that like her clothes for the
next day. But so Stacy and Susie had been out like celebrating their graduation
while Susie's mother, Cheryl, was at home, so like and like she
didn't even know the two girls were coming back to the house. I am
some people believed that it was like somebody watching Cheryl and that they were going
for Cheryl. Yeah, and then just Susie and Stacy rocked up and they
just like rolled with it. Yeah, And like why was nothing stolen?
That's the thing, Like, that's why I think a lot of people think
sex trafficking because like nothing was taken, Like there was a check und undeposited
there, Like they could have taken the check, the check, the jewelry.
You can sit in any of those persons makeup perfume, do you know
what I mean? Like, none of it was taken, So it was
a bit like what so Like That's why I think a lot of people do
lean towards the sex trafficking, like that they were only there for the women.
Yeah, and where from from what I believe from research and stuff,
where they lived in Springfield. I believe there is highways all around it,
all right. The fact that it took someone sixteen hours to contact police,
Yeah, they just had to get on a highway and they were gone.
Oh they were long gone. Sixteen hours is enough of a head start to
give anyone, anybody, you know, Yeah, get away. A lot
of people, I think to give hate to Janelle for not calling. She's
an eighteen year old girl. She isn't thinking that her friends and her friend's
mother has been kidnapped. She's thinking they've probably the mother is probably at work
and they've probably gone off to the water park without me. Forgot to lock
the door. Yeah, Like the house wasn't in disarray. The only thing
that was broken, was the porch light, And the light itself wasn't even
broken. It was just the case from yeah, like to look at the
house. Is it weird that the chelle was on? Yes? Is it
weird that the porch light was on was broken? Yes? And is it
weird that the door was open? Yes. But it's always like when you
hear of these stories, it's like, oh, the ten was so safe,
you could just leave your front door and locked, Like no, no,
no, no, you don't do that. You don't do that.
First of all, cars exist, anyone could be driving through your ten.
Second of all, you don't know all your neighbors, even like my like
not being funny, but my house. If I know I'm having company over,
I'm cleaning my house like Spake and Span or like tidying shit away,
Like I don't want people I know walking in and like seeing how I live,
Like I don't want you to just waltz on into my house, like
open up the door and I'm like in a different room and you're like,
hey, I've entered. Yeah, what if like you know, you're in
the shower or you're naked or whatever and someone just walks right on in.
No, no, thank you. Lock your doors, please honestly lock your
doors and lock your windows. Two, just just lock everything, okay,
and get blinds and get curtains. This needs to be like stranger danger kind
of vibes, like lock your doors, lock your honestly. Years ago,
I'm like decades ago, Ireland did the same, but then it soon became
clear that it could not be a thing and we stopped doing it. And
yeah, in Ireland, nothing is safe. A few years ago, my
dad's work fan got robbed like while in the middle of the day while there
were people in the house. Oh, my next door neighbors work van was
robbed there like last year or the year before, like ten o'clock at night
or something like that. And his wife like m was closing like the curtains
of like one of the rooms upstairs, and she like saw them. She
didn't know what they were doing at first, and she was like, what
is that And she said she was she was scared to knock on the window,
yeah, because she didn't know what they were doing, and you know,
so she like rang the place or whatever. But like like she's staring
at them from the window and they're still breaking into his van. You know,
yeah, you cannot leave in Ireland. You cannot leave anything unlocked anymore.
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