WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:14.039 Hi, and welcome back to give us mark. I'm Nev, I'm Megan 2 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:19.039 And if you noticed last week there was no Niven Meghan. It was Megan 3 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:25.800 and Ash sure was. Ash was super super nice to send us over with 4 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:30.559 the first and second episode from our series that we covered to the Black Daddia 5 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:36.600 on Well more so her likely killer. Um fuck, I can't remember his 6 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:43.240 name anyway, the sun like heavily is like, I think my dad killed 7 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:48.240 her. Yeah, he like wrote like three books in it. He also 8 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:54.320 thinks his dad is the Zodiac Killer. For that, I don't think the 9 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:57.520 dad well, he had like the IQ of like Albert Einstein or something. 10 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:03.719 It is because he like lived in San Francis. Am I right? San 11 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:08.799 Francisco? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, he lived in like San Francisco roughly 12 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:15.920 around the time that the like murders the Zodiac Killer like started. But I 13 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:22.519 do believe he would have been maybe a bit old Zodiac. Whenever I think 14 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:26.480 of the Zodiac, I think he's like an old dude, an old I 15 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:30.439 do think he is an older guy, but I don't know, and I 16 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:36.640 don't know jack shit. Really, we have never covered the Zodiac no, 17 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:42.400 which is surprising because I mentioned the case quite rightly. I know jack shit 18 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:47.480 about that, so we should we should cover that. Shoud I guess on 19 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:51.480 a Sam situation on the zodiac and that would be super fun because I really 20 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:56.040 want to know who killer is. Yeah, that's like your main thing, 21 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:00.879 what keeps me up at night. So yeah, last week heard me and 22 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:04.920 Ash, and the week before that you heard the three parts by Nive on 23 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:08.360 the Yorkshire Ripper. And this week, yet again, she's carrying the fucking 24 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:14.159 Her back is aching. Knive's back is breaking and aching because she's carrying this 25 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:17.159 fucking podcast or swear god, and she is going to be telling us another 26 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:21.120 case today. I mean, my back is aching and breaking, but not 27 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:27.159 from carrying the podcast. It's just don't break my back ache, you break 28 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:30.919 you back. It's just it's just health problems, not not anything serious. 29 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:38.360 If you don't laugh, you're cry, and I've already done that. So 30 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:47.840 just me in a corner like that's me in the corner, corner, that's 31 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:53.840 me in the spot, like me in fiber miles. Yeah tune and I 32 00:02:53.960 --> 00:03:00.439 want that played at my funeral. And anyways, most definitely not carrying the 33 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:06.159 podcast because I would be nothing without an editor, because I say some stupid 34 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:10.479 shit sometimes you guys, do we all do? I really need Megan to 35 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:19.919 filter me every now and again. If you can't say that, people listen 36 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:22.759 that we know and I'm like, oh yeah, no, let me go 37 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:30.159 betteror not just put my personal life all out on this past. We're always 38 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:34.919 like, we may as well at this point give our fucking social Security number 39 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:42.000 out because we have said everything hones damn podcast, swear to God. So 40 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:46.840 this week I have a super interesting case. It is the Springfield Three, 41 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:50.319 which I don't know if many people know what the Springfield Three are. And 42 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:55.199 let me tell you. The Springfield Three are three missing women Cheryl Levett forty 43 00:03:55.199 --> 00:04:02.120 seven, her daughter Susanne Suzie Streeter, and her friend Stacy McCall eighteen, 44 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:08.919 who all mysteriously disappeared from their home in Springfield, Missouri, on June seventh, 45 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:14.199 nineteen ninety two. Sharyl Levitt was the mother of Suzanne Streeter, and 46 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:17.279 she goes by Susie. She was forty seven years old at the time of 47 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:23.720 her disappearance. Cheryl was a cosmetologist, She was a single mother, and 48 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:27.759 she was very close with Susie, so close in the fact that Susie wanted 49 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:32.160 to start working in cosmetology as well when she graduated school. Ah, that's 50 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:35.800 so sweet, isn't it. Susie Streeter was nineteen years old at the time 51 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:41.399 of her disappearance. She had just graduated from Kickapoo High School, which, 52 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:44.399 yes, that is the name of the high school. I googled it several 53 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:46.639 times because I felt like the Internet was trying to play joke on me. 54 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:50.839 It's called Kickapoo. Do you have a song called Kickapoo? I thought it 55 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:56.600 was a joke. I was like, good one, Internet not falling for 56 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:00.519 it. No, that's a real place. Just another time. The Internet 57 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:05.000 never lied. People don't lie on the Internet. Nope. Never. Her 58 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:09.959 friend Stacy McCall, was eighteen years old at the time of her disappearance. 59 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:14.639 Susie and Stacy had plans to go to college together and they wanted to have 60 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:18.800 a super adventurous summer before they started this brand new chapter in their life. 61 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:23.560 They had just graduated high school. Live in the dream. That's so cute, 62 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:28.399 I know, isn't it. The pair had actually graduated from Kickapoo High 63 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:31.319 School on June sixth, nineteen ninety two, so the day before they were 64 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:35.720 officially just like missing. They had plans to go to a party in Branson, 65 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:41.279 Missouri, which was about thirty minutes from Springfield, with a mutual friend, 66 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:44.920 Janelle Kirby. The three girls were going to spend the night in Branson 67 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:47.759 at a motel, and then the next morning they wanted to go to Whitewater 68 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:53.279 Amusement Park, which I believe is kind of like what Potato Park would be 69 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:57.000 to us. Yeah, but is the mascot and actual Potato. He's gone 70 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:01.560 now It's Emerald Park now of our culture. This is disgusting. Why would 71 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:08.839 they do that? They had a good thing going any but angry about that. 72 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.879 However, the plan didn't happen, and the three girls decided to go 73 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:17.839 back to Springfield to Janelle's house and spend the night there instead of in Bronson, 74 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:24.120 and then they were going to go to the Whitewater Amusement Park the next 75 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:28.519 day from Janelle's house. When they got to Janelle's house, that they found 76 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:32.000 it was overcrowded because Janelle had a lot of family staying due to the graduation 77 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:36.879 being on. Yeah. At around two am, Susie and Stacy decided that 78 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:42.199 they were going to go sleep in Susie's house because because of this, and 79 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.600 they told Janelle that they would ringer in the morning so that they could organize 80 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:47.959 what time they were going to leave and you know, whose care they going 81 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:53.240 to take and all that kind of stuff. Our witness saw Susie and Stacy 82 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:57.560 on Battlefield Road at about two thirty am, and it is believed that the 83 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:01.800 two girls got home to Susie's house with any issues. Cheryl was last heard 84 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:06.360 from between eleven to eleven thirty pm that night. She was talking to a 85 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:12.600 friend on the phone about a project she was planning on starting soon. Nobody 86 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:17.360 saw or heard anything suspicious between eleven pm and two thirty am, However, 87 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:23.279 that was the last time anyone ever heard or saw those three women again. 88 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:28.399 Okay, because I got a little bit kind of confused there. So there's 89 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:35.519 Janelle Cheryl, and there is Susie Cheryl and Stacy. Janelle is there a 90 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:41.439 friend whose house that they went to, but her house was too overcrowded, 91 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:46.240 so they left to go to Susie's house, right, Okay, So Janelle 92 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:50.439 is just like a mutual friend of theirs, Right, Okay, I get 93 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:56.920 you now. Sorry. The next morning, Janelle rang Susie's house to you 94 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:00.639 know, start confirming the plans for the day. It was going to take 95 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.759 a while, I believe, to get up to Whitewater amusement parks, so 96 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.639 like they needed to leave early and so get the day a going on. 97 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:11.399 Yeah, yep. After a few calls, Janelle left messages for the girls 98 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:15.959 because obviously nobody was answering, and she was asking them to call them back 99 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.839 because she was like, it's getting you know. No, it was still 100 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:20.600 like I think it was like nine thirty or something like that in the morning, 101 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:24.439 but because they wanted to like make a day of it and stuff, 102 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:30.519 it was kind of like you should be up by now. Yeah. Yeah. 103 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.159 Janelle decided that she was going to go around to Susie's house to see 104 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:37.039 what was going on, and her boyfriend came with her. The couple arrived 105 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:41.320 at Susie's house at around nine am. To look at the house. On 106 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:46.000 the outside, you would not suspect anything had happened. Nothing seemed out of 107 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.399 the ordinary. All the cars were still in the driveway. They did notice 108 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:52.519 that the porch light was still on, but the casing of the light, 109 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:58.279 so the like glass casing that like would cover the light had been smashed, 110 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:05.519 and all the broken glass was all over the porch. Janelle's boyfriend swept up 111 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:11.120 the glass to move it out of the way because he knew that something like 112 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:16.200 that would drive Cheryl mad, like she hated like her porch being dirty. 113 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.960 And then he also was like, in case anyone came out in their bare 114 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:22.080 feet and they stepped on the glass, I'm just gonna sweep this to the 115 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:28.440 side. That was nice of them, yea super nice. Oh god, 116 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.759 damn it. This did destroy vital evidence, did nothing of that, did 117 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:37.039 nothing at all. Yeah, he was only trying to be a good guy. 118 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:39.360 I get but you know, and I get that, like they didn't 119 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.399 think anything was wrong, do you know sometimes maybe just leave stuff alone. 120 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:48.600 Yeah, poor guy, I can you imagine, like I do something nice 121 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:52.559 and then you're told, like, why did you do that? I'm I'm 122 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:58.960 sorry. Never sleep again, or sweep again, or sweep again. He's 123 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:03.440 like, I'm never sweeping ever again. The front door was unlocked, so 124 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.679 the pair entered the home. At first, nothing seemed out of the ordinary. 125 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:11.960 The TV was playing static, the beds did appear to have been slept 126 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:16.240 in. All of the women's purses were stacked together on the kitchen counter along 127 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:20.279 with her jewelry. Cheryl was a chain smoker, and her cigarettes were still 128 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:24.559 on the kitchen counter, along with a check that was yet to be deposited 129 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:30.080 into the bank. So Janelle and her boyfriend began to feel like super concerned 130 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.879 and they started to get a real sense of dread because like, Cheryl's a 131 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:39.559 chain smoker and there's her cigarettes on the counter. The three women are not 132 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:43.159 in the house. The telly is still on, but it's playing static because 133 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.840 it's been on for so long. But yeah, all three cars, like 134 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:52.600 Cheryl's car, Susie's car, and Stacy's car are like still in the driveway. 135 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:58.519 Yeah, it's like they're starting to feel like a bit like the fuck 136 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.679 is going on? Like where are they? Yeah, and like why is 137 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:07.720 there Juiciery just kind of casually out exactly as they searched the house, they 138 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:16.159 found Susie's Yorkshire terrier, Cinnamon. Isn't that so cute? The dog seemed 139 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:20.159 to be agitated and frantic, like obviously the way it was barking and stuff, 140 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.919 but like the dog would have been like used to Janelle, so like 141 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:28.840 it shouldn't have been barking if you get me. Yeah, can you imagine 142 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.120 that? Poor dog is like, where the fuck is my owners? What 143 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:39.480 the fucking balls is going on? Cinnamon is losing his shit? Someone fucking 144 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:43.080 feed me. I'm gonna shit all over this house. Don't let me outside. 145 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:48.639 I'm gonna shit on these walls. I'm all over these walls. Right, 146 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:54.799 I'm a pissing your mouth. I'm a shit on these walls. I'm 147 00:11:54.840 --> 00:12:01.559 a shit on these walls. Ray too dirty. She is such an iconic 148 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:05.399 character in that movie What It's Lavery Day? Like, I love her, 149 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.399 I love it. She almost makes the movie. Yeah she wasn't in it 150 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:15.320 wouldn't be half as good. Definitely not so. Janelle began to panic that 151 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:18.519 something had happened to her friends and her friends ma'am. As they were searching 152 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.200 the house. The phone rang, and Janelle answered it in case it was 153 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:24.919 any one of the three women like she answered it thinking like, oh, 154 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:30.120 maybe it's them calling. Yeah, why they'd be calling their own house, 155 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:33.320 I don't know, but at that stage you're just like, just in case 156 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:39.039 it's them. Instead, it was a strange man who began saying weird sexual 157 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:46.240 comments in graphic detail. Down the phone got in front of Cinnamon. Janelle 158 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:50.519 immediately hung up. Shortly after, the phone rang again, and when Janelle 159 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:54.559 answered it, it was the same man still making these lude sexual comments. 160 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:58.879 Janelle hung up straight away. She did tell the place about this later on, 161 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.440 however, they just put it into a silly little prank call. Oh 162 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:09.879 oh oh. They must often get horny men like saying nasty shit as a 163 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.360 silly little prank call. The police never searched more into these phone calls. 164 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:20.600 Someone else got phone calls as well, and they just never really looked into 165 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.879 it. And it was kind of like, but what even if this wasn't 166 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.120 part of a bigger investigation, I feel like, if somebody is reporting this 167 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.159 to you should look into it. I feel like, even if it has 168 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:37.159 nothing to do with the three moons disappearance, someone is ringing people. You're 169 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:46.960 in town and being these walls right, and they're just like silly little prank 170 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:56.039 calls. Okay. I guess Janelle and her boyfriend left the house after this, 171 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:00.519 and Janelle just assumed that her friends had maybe gone to the water park 172 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:03.639 without her. She was like, maybe I missed them. Maybe they tried 173 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:05.919 to call me, couldn't get a hold of me. And just decided to 174 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:09.360 go one up. I don't know, and like you have to remember, 175 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:15.879 like she's like seventeen eighteen, Like she's like, nah, they're not murdered. 176 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.639 It's fine. Yeah, of course you're gonna. That's not gonna be 177 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:22.320 your thought. You're gonna they went to the water park without me, you 178 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:26.600 know what. They're three friends and then it never works out with the fourth 179 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:33.799 friend. I get it. Stacy McCall's mother, Janice, was unaware that 180 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:37.200 Stacy was at Susie's house. The last she had heard from Stacy was that 181 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:41.919 the girls were planning to sleep at Janelle's house. So in the morning, 182 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:46.200 Janice had called Janelle's home after not hearing from Stacy for a while, and 183 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:50.080 she was informed that she was not there, that she was probably at Susie's 184 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:54.919 house. So she's like, okay. Normally, like she'd call me just 185 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:56.879 to be like, hey, I'm okay, by the way, yeah, 186 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:00.600 about to head off to the water park. I'll see in a little bit, 187 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:01.559 but she hadn't, so she was like, I'm just going to call 188 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.240 quickly and make sure that everything's okay. And then they were like, oh 189 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:09.519 no, no, she's more than likely at Susie's eye. She didn't super 190 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:15.519 classic switchy Rue switch Rue. After almost the full day had gone by without 191 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.000 hearing from Stacy, so Janice decided that she was going to go over to 192 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:22.759 Susie's house to see what was going on. It was late in the evening 193 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:28.120 when Janice arrived. When Janice and her eldest daughter, Lisa arrived, they 194 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.000 arrived to the front door being unlocked and the shattered glass in a tidy pile 195 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:37.440 beside the door, which mean I know is from Jane's boyfriend. Janice found 196 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:41.320 the same scene inside the house as Janelle, the TV playing static, the 197 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:48.600 women's purses in a pile on the kitchen counter. Janice noticed that Stacy's swimsuit, 198 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:50.679 her change of clothes, and her makeup was all organized in a neat 199 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.639 pile in the corner of Susie's room. And this was when Janice decided she 200 00:15:54.720 --> 00:16:00.519 needed to call the police. Sixteen hours into the women's disappearents. So when 201 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:04.960 was it originally found? Because first they went over, Janelle and her boyfriend 202 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:10.240 went over at nine am at what time with the police called sixteen hours later? 203 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:15.320 That's a long ass time. That's a long time. Well, so 204 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:19.759 the women where it was probably more No, wouldn't have been, sorry, 205 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:23.639 my body wouldn't have been sixteen hours later. The two girls were last seen 206 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:30.720 at two thirty am. Stacy and Susie were last seen at two thirty AM, 207 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:37.120 So probably sixteen hours from two thirty, which would be you're talking six 208 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:41.320 in the evening. That's a lot of mats um, yeah, roughly. 209 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:45.639 Yeah, Yeah, that's that's it's a long time. It's a full day. 210 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:49.320 Yeah, it's it's a full day that nobody had heard from like, 211 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:53.440 nobody had heard from the two girls or Susie's mother, do you know what 212 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:56.639 I mean? I mean yeah. And then at the same time, they 213 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:00.759 graduated the day before, so yeah, they're probably thinking of it. Yeah, 214 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:07.000 probably parodying, Yeah, exactly. It's like not too suspicious, but 215 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:11.799 at the time the same time, it's a little suspicious. Janice was searching 216 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:18.559 like through the house and she accidentally deleted a suspicious voicemail from a male making 217 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:23.559 sexual comments off the system. Police believed that the voicemail was not connected to 218 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.720 the phone calls that Janelle had received when she was at the house. Hew 219 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:33.440 mate, what So Janelle had been in the house at nine am right, 220 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:40.759 got two two phone calls. She answered that phone twice and it was the 221 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:45.680 same man making these weird sexual company. Nowhere could I find what these sexual 222 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.240 comments like, they're just weird sexual comments that he was making that made her 223 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:55.440 really super fucking uncomfortable. Then Janice Stacy's mother is in the house, like 224 00:17:56.000 --> 00:18:03.920 what eight hours nine hours later, and there's a voicemail of a man making 225 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:07.680 weird sexual comments and she accidentally deletes it and she tells police like, hey, 226 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:11.759 I was just trying to see if I could go through it to see 227 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:17.000 if, like any of the girls had left a voicemail. I accidentally deleted 228 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:21.640 this, And they're like, it's probably nothing, not related to that girl, 229 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:26.319 to that girl that told us about those weird phone calls. They're different, 230 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.200 they're different phone calls. How many men around your ten go around your 231 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:34.920 town doing that? Because it all seem to have a perfect problem. The 232 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:41.440 weirdo on the loose must be several. While Janice was waiting on the police 233 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:45.480 to get to the house, family and friends came over to sit with her 234 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:49.720 in Cheryl's home. So like the crime scene trampling all over the crime scene. 235 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:53.079 Hello, were these people trained by the same cops who did John Banas, 236 00:18:53.519 --> 00:19:00.200 I honestly think so. While there, some of them decide that they 237 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:06.519 were going to start cleaning around the house, wiping down countertops, moving things 238 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:11.359 around, just trying to keep busy while they're waiting on the cops to arrive. 239 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.359 Did we learn nothing from Johanvaney because John Banay was before this, right, 240 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:18.839 that was like ninety seven. This is ninety nine. No, this 241 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.279 is nineteen ninety two. So no, Actually they should have learned from this 242 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:27.079 case. Okay, PSA, if you're waiting on cops to come and try 243 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:33.000 find you're missing friends, slash family, wait outside, wait outside, don't 244 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:37.519 fucking clean. Wait, don't clean, don't clean. I know you're trying 245 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:44.200 to do it a kindness, but just doing anyone a kindness. This obviously 246 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:48.079 naturally did destroy any possible evidence that was laying around the house. So when 247 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:52.640 police arrived, they said that they would file the missing missing person reports on 248 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.680 the three women. There was nothing further that they could do until morning because 249 00:19:56.680 --> 00:20:00.720 it was late in the night at the stage. The police then asked Janice 250 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:08.160 to obtain Stacy's dental records straight away. This is something that stuck out to 251 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:12.319 a lot of people, and they find this strange because it is a really 252 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:17.920 odd thing to do that the first thing you do is say, by the 253 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:23.079 way, I need your daughter's dental records in a missing person's case. Yeah, 254 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:27.759 that would have my backup a big time, Like no, a bit, 255 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:33.519 what do you know? This? This led a few people to believe 256 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:37.680 that there is like a cover up somewhere in the police force in Springfield and 257 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:45.200 that they already had at least Stacy's body. S realiss, this is called 258 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.480 Springfield And now all I can think of is Chief Wigham involved in a massive 259 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:57.559 coup. I mean fucking sense like Chief Wigham. So ky Janice started to 260 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:03.519 immediately gather some photos of Stacey, and she created a missing person's flyer, 261 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:06.759 and she did this for all three women, like she did this for Cheryl 262 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:11.519 and Susie as well, which like fair play tour like even though like obviously 263 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:12.839 your main focus was going to be on your child, she's like, you 264 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:18.640 know there's other there's a woman and her child missing, also fair play. 265 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:23.039 Janis and the community went around Missouri handing out flyers to all of the shops 266 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:29.440 and to anyone that would take them in, which actually in like some of 267 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:32.880 the shops in Missouri. Do some of them still have the posters up? 268 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:38.559 Oh? That is absolutely heartbreaking. After days of no leads, eventually a 269 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:45.920 local waitress from George's Breakfast Restaurant, which was the favorite restaurant of Cheryl and 270 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:49.759 Susie, came forward stating that she remembered seeing the three women in the restaurant 271 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:53.880 the night that they disappeared, between one and three am. However, the 272 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.880 police could not get anyone to corroborate her story, as no one else remembered 273 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:03.960 seeing them. Okay. The police then began to look into the personal lives 274 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:07.519 of the three women in the hopes that it would give them some sort of 275 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:14.160 lead. You know, like ex boyfriends, ex husbands, you know, 276 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:21.359 all that unusual. Yeah. Police then learn of Bart Street, the brother 277 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:26.519 of Susie and the son of Cheryl. Bart was nine years older than Susie. 278 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:30.200 In the early nineteen eighties, Cheryl had kicked Bart out of the house, 279 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.000 stating quote, if you want to live under my roof, you have 280 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:37.799 to abide by my rules. According to Bart, Bart had a drinking problem 281 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:44.400 and other issues. He had been estranged from his family for almost ten years 282 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:48.839 when he moved back to Springfield, Susie and Bart became close again, and 283 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:53.240 the siblings moved into an apartment together. However, things didn't last long and 284 00:22:53.359 --> 00:23:00.640 Bart started drinking again. Susie and Bart then began to argue over his drinking, 285 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:04.960 and things eventually turned violent when Bert attacked Susie and that's when Susie moved 286 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:11.079 back in with Cheryl. Police questioned Bart over the women's disappearances, but he 287 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:15.000 was eventually cleared as a suspect. And to this day, Bert is haunted 288 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.799 by the fact that he never got to make things right with his mother or 289 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:25.079 his sister. Yeah, that would be rough. It's something that like really 290 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:29.599 sits with him now. And I think he even still was recently like arrested 291 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:33.480 on like drug chargers and stuff. So obviously is something that he's just never 292 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:36.920 been able to overcome. God bless him. It must be really hard, 293 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:41.799 Like obviously anything trying to give any addiction up is incredibly difficult. But then 294 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:47.160 when you have something heavy is like you're fucking family disappearing disappearing, and then 295 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.880 the police as well like questioning you for it. Yeah, and I get 296 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:53.359 that they have to question these people like completely, but you have to question 297 00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:56.359 these people just to rule them out. But in a case of like his, 298 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.240 that's something that it's like, fuck, they think I'd done it and 299 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:06.599 do you know? Yeah, it's like which is sad because it was something 300 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:08.720 that I think he wanted to eventually do. It was like make things right. 301 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:14.839 Yeah. The police then learned of Susie's ex boyfriend, Dustin Reckler. 302 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:18.880 Well Susie and Justin were together. Dustin had been arrested with his friend Michael 303 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:25.720 Clay for breaking into a mausoleum and stealing gold teeth from a corpse inside the 304 00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:30.960 mausoleum. You yep. Michael and Dustin then sold the gold teeth to a 305 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:36.400 pawn shop. When Susie learned of this, she broke things off with Dustin 306 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:41.680 naturally, and it was reported that Susie was even going to go and testify 307 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:47.039 on behalf of the prosecution against Dustin and Michael. Wow, that sounds like 308 00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:52.119 a big fat motive if I've ever heard one. I swear Dustin and Michael 309 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:56.200 had a lot of anger towards Susie and her friends. There were reports that 310 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:00.799 Michael was overheard stating I wish all three women are dead. Sorry, that's 311 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.880 just like I wish for all three women to disappear between the hours of three 312 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:11.160 and nine. So specific, isn't it. When the two men were questioned 313 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:15.240 about the women's disappearances, they both had alibis. However, no one was 314 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:21.000 ever able to confirm these alibis. Police, however, did not have enough 315 00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:25.640 evidence to ever charge them with the crime. Police weren't even sure what crime 316 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.200 it was that they were supposed to charge them because the women are missing, 317 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.240 and do charge them with murder? Do you? Because it's early on in 318 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:36.920 the investigations, so it's like, are they alive? They just kidnapping? 319 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:41.319 Is a murder? Like? Well, Dustin and Michael are still considered persons 320 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.359 of interest in the case today. Yeah, I concur I think that they 321 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:52.440 are from the line so far the most likely suspects. Yes, if it's 322 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.480 not a stranger, if it's not a stranger. A woman then called police 323 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:00.799 with a tip that on the morning of the women's disappearance, she was sitting 324 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:04.200 out on her front porch at around six thirty am when she saw a Dodge 325 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:10.839 Panel van with a silver to green hue driving past. It looked to be 326 00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:15.200 a nineteen sixties or nineteen seventies model. It drove past her house, and 327 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:19.640 a woman driving it looked very distressed. She also said that she could hear 328 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:25.519 a male voice coming from inside the van yelling back out slowly and don't do 329 00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:30.440 anything stupid. How she heard that from a moving van? Who knows? 330 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:33.319 Maybe it was like a slow moving Did you ever see that video of a 331 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.640 ring camera and there's a woman standing out on her front porch and there's like 332 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.839 a car driving by, and all you can hear is a woman's voice going 333 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.240 like help it help help. You're gonna hear it as it's coming up the 334 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:49.319 road. It's mad. I only have only seen the video. I don't 335 00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:55.440 know like any background to it or anything. The woman later identified the driver 336 00:26:55.599 --> 00:27:00.960 as Susie Street. The police decided to place a similar ran outside the police 337 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.319 department with like all the numbers to call on it, in the hopes that 338 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:11.359 it was going to jog people's memory in seeing the van. A paper boy 339 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.200 who had been delivering papers late at night the same night the women went missing, 340 00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:18.480 came forward saying that he saw the van, but it was a brown 341 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.640 color, wasn't a silver to green hue. Janice never gave up on trying 342 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:29.680 to find her daughter or Susie or Cheryl. She would phone national news stations 343 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.039 to try to keep the story in the news all across America. And this 344 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:38.039 led to a tip from a guy in Florida, Florida, Florida. And 345 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:44.519 we're just going to take a quickly a led Bricue and Rebecca. So the 346 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:48.039 police have been given a tip about a guy from Florida. He told the 347 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:52.640 police to look into Robert Craig Cox, and he claimed this man had killed 348 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:57.880 his sister, Sharon Zeller. Sharon was a nineteen year old that was allegedly 349 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:03.880 murdered by Robert in nineteen seventy eight. At the time, Robert had been 350 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:07.720 in the area celebrating with his family for completing basic training with the Army. 351 00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:11.799 Robert was staying at a hotel with his parents, and late one night, 352 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:17.079 Robert arrived back to the hotel room with blood coming from his mouth and his 353 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:22.279 tongue partially bitten off. Jesus. Robert was brought to the er and told 354 00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:27.039 the nurses he had accidentally bitten off his own tongue. Shortly after, Sharon 355 00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:32.599 Zeller's body was then found one hundred feet from the hotel that Robert was staying 356 00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:37.599 at Police were unable to formally charge Robert with the murder as they had no 357 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.039 DNA evidence. They ever find his tongue half tongue, I don't know. 358 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:47.039 Robert then went off and joined the army. In nineteen eighty five, he 359 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:52.519 was dishonorably discharged from the army and was charged and convicted of kidnapping and assaulting 360 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.359 two women. He was then charged with Sharon's murder and was placed on death 361 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:00.559 row. But Robert fought these charges and he won because there was a lack 362 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:07.440 of DNA so he was able to get the conviction overturned. That's dis graceful. 363 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:14.200 Robert then moved to Springfield and he got himself a job working for Stacy's 364 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.640 father. Oh. When police questioned Robert about the women's disappearance, he told 365 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.720 them he spent the night with his girlfriend and then went to Mass the next 366 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.720 morning. He would say that liars do pretend they go to church. They 367 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:33.079 do. Robert's girlfriend then confirmed his alibi. However, three years later, 368 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.960 Robert's arrested for holding a gun on a twelve year old girl. Robert, 369 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:45.559 get your fucking shit together, Jesus my god. He was then arresting, 370 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:49.759 isn't he? He was then arrested for armed robbery and he is currently serving 371 00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:52.960 a life sentence in jail. He should have been there like a long time 372 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:57.319 ago. Yeah, I really should have. Robert remained a prime suspect for 373 00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:03.240 years. During an interview TV years later, he told reporters, quote, 374 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.920 I can tell you that I know three women are dead, and that the 375 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:11.519 person who committed the crime had experience and they were buried close to Springfield. 376 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:14.559 Don't want to expand on that a little bit more, Robert, please, 377 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:18.640 thank you. Police did take the statement very very serious. However, they 378 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.319 did have concerns that Robert was just trying to get like a little bit of 379 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.160 fame, like a little bit of Oh my god, who's this guy. 380 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.559 And then Robert's now ex girlfriend because she dumped his ass for holding a gun 381 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:36.359 on a twelve year old and like she should came forward and stated that she 382 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:40.480 lied all those years ago and that Robert had not spent the night with her 383 00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.680 and she did, in fact not know where he was the night the three 384 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:47.720 women went missing. Robert has made the claim that he will tell the truth 385 00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.440 when his mother passes away, as he doesn't want to cause her any more 386 00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:56.440 grief, which is like, people believe that's him saying I did kill them. 387 00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.079 I am, and I will tell you but just when my mother dies. 388 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.000 But then an awful lot of people also believe that he's just saying that 389 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:08.440 to keep himself relevant. Oh yeah, I can see both sides. A 390 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:14.680 man by the name Stephen Garrison soon became a suspect when he told police that 391 00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:18.240 his friend had drunkenly told him at a party that he had killed three missing 392 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:23.440 women. Stephen then went on to give police information that was not public knowledge. 393 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:30.079 Police followed Stephen's quote unquote tips, which brought them to two different properties, 394 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:34.480 and at one of the properties they found a green moss colored fan and 395 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.559 then like obviously they figured out that like no friend had told him this, 396 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:47.279 that he in fact was the friend. Oh I see, so he's like, 397 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:52.319 yeah, my friend told me. Ted Bundy did the same thing because 398 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.880 he didn't ever want to confess and be like, yeah I did this, 399 00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.720 but he was like if a guy was to do this, like my friend, 400 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.640 Like, pal, are you that friend? Are you that friend? 401 00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:09.319 I think you were. A judge then ordered a gag order on the search 402 00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:14.720 warrants of these two properties, so no one actually knows what police found or 403 00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.160 what they were even looking for when they were searching them. I wonder why 404 00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:23.599 that is m same Stephen is now serving time in prison for assaulting a college 405 00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:29.079 student in nineteen ninety three, and he still remains a person of interest. 406 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:35.839 There are so many unanswered questions in this case. How did anybody manage to 407 00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:40.839 abduct three women without a single person noticing? How did they manage to leave 408 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.880 little to no evidence behind? There are too many theories as to what happened, 409 00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:52.599 one being that the women were being watched and followed, another that whoever 410 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.559 took them was pretending to be law enforcement to gain access to the house, 411 00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:02.480 another that law enforcement something to do with the disappearances. A woman came forward 412 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:07.400 and said that she believed the three women had been buried under the foundations of 413 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:13.400 a parking lot at Cox Hospital in Springfield. The parking lot was under construction 414 00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:17.640 at the time of their disappearances. This woman paid she used her own money 415 00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:23.279 to have a specialist use excavation equipment to try see if there was any remains 416 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:30.599 underneath the foundation, and this proved that there were three items, possibly bodies, 417 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:36.279 lying on top of each other in the parking lot garage underneath the concrete 418 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.119 Jesus. There is no evidence that it is the three women. However, 419 00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:45.880 police refused to dig up the parking lot, stating it would cost too much, 420 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:51.680 despite the hospital granting permission to dig up anything if it helps find the 421 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:53.839 women. The woman was too stunned to speak. I don't know what to 422 00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:58.839 say to that. Most commonly, people believed that the three women were abducted 423 00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:04.960 by professionals and sold into the world of human trafficking. That last theory is 424 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.280 the one that is to me the scariest, and it's the one that's more 425 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:15.599 the most likely. Yeah, sex trafficking is like, this is nineteen ninety 426 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:22.000 two. Sex trafficking is rampant, but it's something that's not talked about, 427 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:27.519 and so it's something that they don't know to look out for. So if 428 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.360 someone pulls up to the house and it's like, hey, can I come 429 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.360 in and use your phone, they're like, sure thing, you know what 430 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:37.519 I mean, Yeah, it's fucked. I don't know. It kind of 431 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.039 makes me think that it's somebody that they know, because in my head, 432 00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.800 the way it's playing out is that the person went up to the porch, 433 00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:47.360 and I tried to knock the light so that when they turn on the light 434 00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:52.639 they wouldn't be able to it wasn't the door. Exactly the theory with the 435 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.559 police being involved, I get it, because why won't they dig up the 436 00:34:57.400 --> 00:34:59.559 like why won't they dig it up? They dig it up? And why 437 00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:05.159 did they ask for dental records? Yeah, but in saying that as well, 438 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:09.079 I just think it's more than likely I there has to have been more 439 00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:13.639 than one abductor, because how do you get three women? How do you 440 00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.360 get how do you take three women without a peep or without leaving behind some 441 00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:23.800 sort of evidence unless he had a big gun or some sorry even still think 442 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:28.199 the dog or something. I don't know. In that scenario, if there's 443 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:35.639 three of you and there's one like intruder, you would think to yourself, 444 00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:42.960 we could overpower it, like there's three against one here. And I think 445 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:46.199 that's why a lot of people think that it was somebody that they knew, 446 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:51.119 or like somebody in law enforcement, like somebody that they trusted that when he 447 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:55.800 came in, that it was a case of So I believe what's commonly thought 448 00:35:55.840 --> 00:36:01.360 of is that it is sex traffic, but it was organized by someone that 449 00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:06.719 they knew, and like an officer came in and said, hey, look, 450 00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:10.199 I need us to vacate the premises because there is a madman on the 451 00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:14.519 loose and can keep you safe. So I need you to come at me. 452 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:20.280 Yeah, and like that's how he yeah, and that's how like you'd 453 00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:28.239 take three women without a single fuss. Janice McCall has never given up the 454 00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:32.880 hope that maybe her daughter is still alive. She hopes and believes that Stacy 455 00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:40.000 would still be found. Janice founded a nonprofit organization to try help other families 456 00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:45.400 of missing people. Every year, Janice Hope hosts a visual for Stacy, 457 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:52.079 Susanne, and Cheryl. If you, the listener, are from the area 458 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:57.159 and have any information regarding the three women, you can leave an anomalous tip 459 00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:02.639 with the Springfield Police Department. You can text four one seven SPD along with 460 00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:09.719 your tip two two seven four six three seven, or you can call four 461 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:19.000 one seven eight sixty nine eight four seven seven. Good damn. And that 462 00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:23.719 is the case. The women are still missing eleven years, eleven years to 463 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:30.679 hear me thirty one years later. That is absolutely haunting. Yeah, this 464 00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.920 is the part when I say this is an interesting case. I find it's 465 00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:43.760 so interesting that someone managed to just break in and take three women and nobody 466 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:49.760 saw a single fucking thing. Yeah. Or there's another thing. What if 467 00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:52.400 he was never in the head. Well, no, because the purses were 468 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.920 there, because my brain went to, like they were seen at the diner, 469 00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:59.559 by your words, diner. What if they were coming in and he 470 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:01.039 got them just as they were coming in, he waited in the porch. 471 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:09.079 See the reason the person's stuff, but because well as well as like um, 472 00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:14.199 Stacy's like clothes were in the house and that like her clothes for the 473 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:22.239 next day. But so Stacy and Susie had been out like celebrating their graduation 474 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.960 while Susie's mother, Cheryl, was at home, so like and like she 475 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.639 didn't even know the two girls were coming back to the house. I am 476 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.440 some people believed that it was like somebody watching Cheryl and that they were going 477 00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:40.320 for Cheryl. Yeah, and then just Susie and Stacy rocked up and they 478 00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:46.199 just like rolled with it. Yeah, And like why was nothing stolen? 479 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:51.119 That's the thing, Like, that's why I think a lot of people think 480 00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:55.800 sex trafficking because like nothing was taken, Like there was a check und undeposited 481 00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.840 there, Like they could have taken the check, the check, the jewelry. 482 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.199 You can sit in any of those persons makeup perfume, do you know 483 00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:06.400 what I mean? Like, none of it was taken, So it was 484 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:09.880 a bit like what so Like That's why I think a lot of people do 485 00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:14.320 lean towards the sex trafficking, like that they were only there for the women. 486 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:22.280 Yeah, and where from from what I believe from research and stuff, 487 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:29.360 where they lived in Springfield. I believe there is highways all around it, 488 00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:36.360 all right. The fact that it took someone sixteen hours to contact police, 489 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.920 Yeah, they just had to get on a highway and they were gone. 490 00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:46.039 Oh they were long gone. Sixteen hours is enough of a head start to 491 00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:51.519 give anyone, anybody, you know, Yeah, get away. A lot 492 00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:55.039 of people, I think to give hate to Janelle for not calling. She's 493 00:39:55.039 --> 00:40:00.119 an eighteen year old girl. She isn't thinking that her friends and her friend's 494 00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:05.920 mother has been kidnapped. She's thinking they've probably the mother is probably at work 495 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:08.679 and they've probably gone off to the water park without me. Forgot to lock 496 00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:14.920 the door. Yeah, Like the house wasn't in disarray. The only thing 497 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:17.440 that was broken, was the porch light, And the light itself wasn't even 498 00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:22.239 broken. It was just the case from yeah, like to look at the 499 00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:27.800 house. Is it weird that the chelle was on? Yes? Is it 500 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.440 weird that the porch light was on was broken? Yes? And is it 501 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:36.320 weird that the door was open? Yes. But it's always like when you 502 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:38.440 hear of these stories, it's like, oh, the ten was so safe, 503 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:40.719 you could just leave your front door and locked, Like no, no, 504 00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:44.119 no, no, you don't do that. You don't do that. 505 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.679 First of all, cars exist, anyone could be driving through your ten. 506 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:52.239 Second of all, you don't know all your neighbors, even like my like 507 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:57.599 not being funny, but my house. If I know I'm having company over, 508 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.960 I'm cleaning my house like Spake and Span or like tidying shit away, 509 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:06.440 Like I don't want people I know walking in and like seeing how I live, 510 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.199 Like I don't want you to just waltz on into my house, like 511 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:13.880 open up the door and I'm like in a different room and you're like, 512 00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.880 hey, I've entered. Yeah, what if like you know, you're in 513 00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:22.960 the shower or you're naked or whatever and someone just walks right on in. 514 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:28.239 No, no, thank you. Lock your doors, please honestly lock your 515 00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:30.360 doors and lock your windows. Two, just just lock everything, okay, 516 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:36.000 and get blinds and get curtains. This needs to be like stranger danger kind 517 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:39.079 of vibes, like lock your doors, lock your honestly. Years ago, 518 00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:44.719 I'm like decades ago, Ireland did the same, but then it soon became 519 00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:46.960 clear that it could not be a thing and we stopped doing it. And 520 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.800 yeah, in Ireland, nothing is safe. A few years ago, my 521 00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:59.360 dad's work fan got robbed like while in the middle of the day while there 522 00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:02.920 were people in the house. Oh, my next door neighbors work van was 523 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.679 robbed there like last year or the year before, like ten o'clock at night 524 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:14.519 or something like that. And his wife like m was closing like the curtains 525 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:19.039 of like one of the rooms upstairs, and she like saw them. She 526 00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.960 didn't know what they were doing at first, and she was like, what 527 00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.639 is that And she said she was she was scared to knock on the window, 528 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.079 yeah, because she didn't know what they were doing, and you know, 529 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:36.239 so she like rang the place or whatever. But like like she's staring 530 00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:40.320 at them from the window and they're still breaking into his van. You know, 531 00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:45.360 yeah, you cannot leave in Ireland. 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