Hello everybody. Welcome to That's No Metal, your weekly rock and metal podcast,
and welcome to another edition of hyper Blast, where we fire the news
that you in hyper fashion, all the big stuff that you need to know,
what releases are coming out there you're worth hearing. Thanks for joining us.
My name is Parenthish and just joining me today. Marks Anderson is back
again. Can't get rid of him at the moment. I'd like to apologize
to the city of Aberdeen. Yeah, you riled up all the what are
people called it? There from Aberdeen? Aberdeen's does the Dean the Deans from
the Deans, but yeah, absolutely fucked off all the Deans. Apologize there.
Sam is away seeing spirit Box tonight. Meanwhile, I've done fuck all
this week, Abert. I've been walking around in the forest, but that's
just what I do. Yeah, I've just been watching Mission Impossible movies,
thinking about Tom Cruise Climbing the Bird Khalifa, oh hell yeah, and need
to be doing that. I already watched them like a couple of months ago,
but I'm seeing all my pals watch them and I'm like, yeah,
I could do. I did listen to the two Hour Swan's album just before
recording this you know Swans update. Oh yeah, it's quite quite a surprisingly
dreamy Swan's record at times, actually, apart from the forty four minute song,
which is very disquieting. I have been putting some plans into action as
well for kind of TMM over the summer and more events that we will be
at. So that's all good. Today. It's our last Hyperblast before our
big reviews episode next week, and we've got a whole bunch of album announcements
actually it's one of those weeks. But the most exciting thing that we need
to talk about is the activity that has been coming out of a camp we
may not have heard from in quite a while, none other than the Creed
camp. There is a lot of hints at the moment towards Creed returning to
our to our ranks. For I mean, I guess, you know,
when was the last time that Creed were an active band. That they might
have done some reunion shows at like one point or another, but I suppose
the last time that the band Creed were like fully around were Yeah, there
we go. They performed between two thousand and nine and two thousand and twelve,
very briefly, but we all know it's the early two thousands heyday of
Creed as the particular peak of that mountain. But there is always talk when
bands sort of like blank slate their social media pages, which Creed have done
with a new you know, profititor and everything. But also beyond that,
there is a website that has been launched that I think requires you to sign
up to have a look at what's going on. So I mean, maybe
come tomorrow, as this episode goes out, we will have Creed news.
But I I am sure that you share a certain kind of quasi ironic,
like on that line between ironic and actually fully sincere, like I know,
affection for Creed. Fuck that irony you normally I love a lot of US
radio rock. There is about let's say about five Creed songs that I genuinely
love and go to bat for. There's there's at least a couple. Yeah,
and again they're they're just so ridiculous. And I know that you know,
we did not kind of we we weren't around for Creeds like peak exposure.
And I know there are people who you know, were into let's say
credible rock and metal kind of around two thousand and one, for whom the
idea of Creed coming back is like the worst thing they ever heard. But
I don't know, being away from it, that there is just something that's
so just so nah about Creed that it becomes kind of incredible again. And
the thing with Creed being away is that, you know, it's you wonder
whether they have any place in the modern day rock and metal sphere. They
feel so their peak of popularity feels so tied to one point in time,
and they've all done, you know, obviously, like Scott stap I know
that he's had kind of various personalsues and stuff where he's been kind of out
of the game, but he had, you know, his little solo career.
Notably, of course, you've got Mark Tremonti and the other guys who've
been in Older Bridge and and maybe Older Bridge have been gotten tired of perpetually
subheadlining download and gone. You know what, maybe it's time to open our
arms wide again. But what does the world do if Creed come back?
Like, what does Creed in twenty twenty three do? I don't know.
It has the potential to be a phenomenon because you get all the moms and
the dads from back in the day who go to one shore year, they'll
go to the Creed show. But so a whole generation of memours who love
Creed ironically or not, probably will you know, pay up to go pay
tribute to the greatest of all time. What does it mean in the UK?
I have no idea would they because I suppose again we look at the
US A couple of years ago, mud Vein reunited, and mud Vein are
a band who, you know, don't mean a great deal to the sort
of the landscape of rock and metal in you know, over twenty years past
their past their heyday. And when they re in a a couple years ago
in America it was like, oh my god, mud Finer back. They
immediately topped like all these huge festivals and I's over here. We kind of
like, yeah, okay, sure you do what you do over there.
And Creed is many times larger than mud Vein, right like many again,
they have a kind of I know, mud Vein have the brooding meme,
but like Creed have a that there's a Creed like ironic icons right to a
whole load of people. And but also, as you say, kind of
like that kind of Middle America factor is so like they were like the rock
band that those people liked in two thousand and one. So there will be
a completely un ironic let's all you know again, particularly as you say,
and kind of a you know that kind of a Middle America factor would be
huge here. I mean I would Creed headline download I don't know, and
i'd i'd like to see it strangely like it. Yeah, how you so
you're fully like ironically. I think they've got a couple of great songs.
I think Mike my Sacrifice is brilliant. Wow, I think one more scream
three. Yeah, Higher is probably a probably a great song. Higher is
definitely a great song. Yeah, They've got a couple of like come of
their head, the ones. You know. There's one called like Bullets.
I think that opens one of their records. That's pretty that's pretty pretty gnarly
and like again, I don't know whether it is a good song or not,
but with arms wide open, I can absolutely sing very passionately compared to
like modern day radio rock. I'd to take Creed all day. There have
been so many of those bands that have kind of existed post Creed, including
Older Bridge. You're like again, let's not be around the bush. The
alder Bridge kind of batting average of like consistency is much better than Creeds.
Right, but oh yeah, so many of those songs. The reason that
those bands have failed to progress to the highest level is they don't actually have
any fucking songs, and so many of them like just it becomes a very
very forgettable, sort of interchangeable background noise of like as you say, sort
of Sunday main stage download fair. Creed have the undeniable they have never left
public consciousness songs, and people have so much like um warmth towards Creed.
I think it's because a lot of those radio rock bands are quite pull faced
and they take themselves very seriously, and it's very sincere and Creed to do
that. But Creed do that while being ridiculous. Yeah, Creed do that
while having like doing that Super Bowl halftime show when they've got like spinning like
dancers in the ropes and stuff angels like yeah, so his fun image at
Outbreak Festival and me and Sam like as we've heard all that reviews stuff,
were staying in the same places. We were staying with a mutual friend of
ours, Nathan, right, and we all rum and when outbreak Fest were
like the days were over, we'd all go back and we just watched stuff
on the TV on YouTube, and we watched a bunch of like Creed live
sets, and one that we watched was it must have been I'm gonna say
two thousand and two that date wise makes sense of Creed playing I think the
Winter Olympics somewhere and they played I'm not sure what song it was, it
was, you know, a very emotional one and they got aunt all of
them, mate, yeah, and they got a bunch of kids out on
stage and we were sort of again like like um like fast forwarding through his
video and stuff, and we saw these kids and I was like, Okay,
who these kids? And I guessed, I was like, I bet
those are nine to eleven kids. I bet those are kids who have you
know, lost love one's parents whatever in nine levels. Of course, you
know, very very shortly before this, uh this this happened, and I
was completely right. Creed at the Winter Olympics two thousand and two performed a
song where they got a bunch of kids whose parents had been killed in nine
to eleven to essentially sit on the stage just sort of look a bit glum
and wave American flags while Creed very recently and that is like that that image
feels like of a different world to the one we are currently in. Right,
It's very hard to addine Creed existing at that point in time when that
was the level of full, you know, American sincerity. I suppose that
that was there, and you know, if Creed were to come back and
release the material a real or whatever, I mean, there's always a fun
factor with Stap right, but the fear would be they would fall into just
being like what Blackstone, Sherry or whatever like have become, which is just
that kind of stock thing. Like does the particular hymbo magic of Creed like
not translate to another era. But I also think there is just something so
there is a very daft charisma that is again completely earnest but completely kind of
flamboyant at the same time. I don't know, see I Oh god,
I'm about to vote myself. I was actually re listening to some of the
Scott Stapps solo album in twenty nineteen before any of this kicked off, just
because I listened to shit. I remember there was some really funny stuff on
that record, insane and stuff like that. But there's some choruses on that
that are massive. So if you can bring the like Tremonti riffing and Scott
delivering belt of choruses, I don't know, I could get excited about the
prospect of new Creed. Yeah. I it's one of those things that you
almost on one hand, of course and nevitably at some point it would happen
because they were so huge that there is obviously there's so many people that will
go out and see it that it will it will be a huge event.
But also there was the level of like, you know, particularly the other
guys like again much wanting everyone had kind of sort of moved past it and
had had started this whole other career for them or maybe a bit like when
like when Dez went back to doing Coal Chamber or whatever. Ye, but
I don't know, it was it was like one of the reunions that you
thought, like, you didn't predict it happening at any particular moment. It
won't be like, oh Creed of backt so, and it was sort of
one of those like weird ones that got away almost and m yeah, I
mean again, it's very hard to tell how ironic I am in this and
how genuinely excited I would be. But I do know that if I was
at a festival and you put Creed in front of me, I would have
like the fun that I would have watching that is worth anything else that might
be coming out of this. So like I do sincerely hope that this Creed
online rumblings results in the physical presence of a staff and the gang in front
of us. Yeah, you put me in a situation where I'm seeing higher
alive, I am in heaven. Yeah, it might genuinely show up a
lot of the stuff like that that's been around that doesn't have the same factor
in the show and everything. So well, Creed watch everyone. We also
in some very America centric news that huge Power Trip festival that was going on
that was announced with like six acts on the bills for you know, a
huge amount of money, but it was the biggest acts in rock and metal
that you can imagine kind of legacy. Why Ozzie Osbourne was kind of kind
of brought out with retirement to play that show and he has not made an
announcement that physically he does not feel yet ready up to performing that And Juda's
Priest have been brought in to do it. Very very cool for Priests.
They are significantly the smallest band of the six that are on there, and
it's like, wow, yeah, plucky Little Duda's Priests, you go at
it. But from the Aussie front, please please just retire like you did
the retirement announcement a few years ago and we were all like yep, fair
enough, sail off into the sunsets. And it feels bad watching him force
himself to be like, no, I actually can still do it and then
perpetually not actually arrive because time takes its toll. Yeah, this sort of
breaks my heart. And clearly he just loves he just loves it. But
it's time to let go, Ozzie. You you've had an amazing career,
that's you know, stop trying to fool yourself into thinking you're going to be
rock and hard. Yeah. I just I just wanted to stop being dragged
out. I just want him to just you know, chill out for a
bit. And seeing him again come out for this and then have to be
replaced, it's like, oh, this isn't isn't fun at all? Music
wise, this is interesting. The Ghost Inside have released their first single since
twenty twenty with their big return record, A single is called earn It.
That twenty twenty album was kind of it was it was overshadowed in a couple
of ways. First, of course, by like it was overshall i'd be
the wrong word. It was very difficult to make any kind of sort of
objective critical judgment about it, first because of the general narrative of them returning
and coming back, at which point it was just such it was so characterized
by kind of joy and positivity that that record had come to fruition that that
was just the main takeaway. But then there was some of the negative stuff
that arose kind of as soon as the record was released. So it feels
like the ghost inside comeback. Apart from a couple of live shows, I
know Sam has been too like we haven't really been able to talk about it
that fluidly. I suppose that this is them kind of again, kind of
really opening the next chapter. I mean, like, Okay, where do
we go now post all of that stuff that's happened in the last few years
and weird choice in it. It is this the bad omensification of metalcore.
Hearing goes inside with a gent tone that then also has like kind of electronics
and sense and stuff on it. I won't go as far as say bad
Omens that's very very harsh because it didn't sound I don't know that's say,
like overly weak or flimsy I suppose, but yeah, but it does sound
like kind of any band that have tried to be architects in recent years.
It's very weird hearing the Ghost Inside, who felt like a band who would
never have to change sound very much. They're like hate Breed or someone right.
Feels weird to see them making a swing at that. Instrumentally it sounds
nothing like them, to the point where if you just played it to me
blind and asked me to guess, I don't think the Ghost Inside no,
whoever, I think it hits hard. Jonathan sounds great on it, and
that chorus is really big. I kind of am really into this, Okay,
yeah, the coorse for me the chorus hit, and again it just
sounded so kind of off and off what Ghost Inside chorus should sound like,
and closer to any number of sort of stock choruses in that regard that we've
got from medical bands. That was a bit just like kind of m for
me and this is the song once, but I thought you've got a really
clear identity that you've worked for years to really sort of establish. I know
that bands want to try over things and that, but this feels again even
more so than like architects who have kind of, you know, slowly moved
into a territory where some people are like, you know, the things that
I loved about these levens for your band isn't so there so much now.
But that felt like a steadier change, whereas this feels more like a oh,
this is just this just doesn't fit you guys, does it. Yeah.
I think my praise for it is more sort of if I divorce it
from the fact that it's the ghost in side doing it as a like radio
metal song. I like it. If you told me this is the new
like of Mice and Men song or something, I'd be like, holy shit,
this is the best of sentence in the decade. Right. Yeah,
I'm not that I suppose you know that thing. I think it just sounds
so close to any number of things that we would have had. I can't
get doing I can't get too inspired or passionate about it. I can't say
I think it's a particularly good example. It's it's it's a example of a
thing. There is lots of Yeah it is. Yeah, you're right.
It's a real shame that they've sort of left behind quite a unique and empowering
sound. Yeah again, who sends like everyone else. It just feels weird,
Like it feels weird to do after you know, the kind of the
comeback album, which you know, for all tes Versus sounded like the ghost
inside and that was them being like, obviously, we've we've been through so
much. Here as an album that is us getting back to our feet,
and I think we all know again from the live shows and everything, it's
like they literally they never can be the same band they were pre their accident.
That's just the kind of the the human toll that these things take,
and that's completely understandable. But it does feel weird too. I don't know,
you can you can grow with that without signing your identity away, And
that's what this sort of sounds like to me. Elsewhere. I think a
band who are you know, undergoing a couple of subtle changes, but the
core is a lot more recognizable. So fal Bard have announced their new record
is called The Weight of the Mask and that's coming out on October the sixth.
We already spoke about a single that is going to be on this album
when it was released a while ago when they announced that they have signed to
Nuclear Blast Record. But I'm going to throw to the to you for this
one. Then, Mark, there is a new Foul Barred song out along
with this, So there's a couple of singles out. You love this band.
We all kind of do, but I think you particularly have, Like
the last record was like you were super super keen on it. What are
you making of the new kind of foul Bard stuff? I think it.
I like that it's the harshness is still there. It's still got like a
real punch to it. There's like a punk a punk pace, and like
a real engine to this while keeping the glacial guitars. And I really like
there's like vocal trade offs. And the latest song they've released, which I
think is really cool. I don't think it's as catchy as anything off the
last record, but it sounds and again I only listened to it once or
twice, it sounds really promising. Yeah, I think I've noticed again with
this this new Nuclear Last stuff. I've done, there's a bit more of
a kind of like a hulky metal sound. Then that is kind of that
sort of like cross punk thing. But this song is still on a DBAT
right and it's again like they're the band who are bringing dbats to like this
you know, big kind of modern metal label, which I think is cool,
and I do think their trademarks are so recognizable at this stage it still
couldn't be anyone else. It's not just a stock swapping or out metal song.
It's very identifiable as a foul Bard song. So yeah, very much
looking forward to the news foul Bard. As I said before today, it's
it's a fucking avalanche of like album announcements and stuff. So if you are
putting your calendar together of what you are excited about for the you know,
the next few months of the year, there's a lot here that might make
it onto your your most anticipated list first if you've got Dying Fetus who I've
also put some music out prior to the announcement of this album, but they
have announced that the album is called make Them beg for Death, which their
trend of just like the hardest album titles. Not not to be confused with
like, you know, gory extreme album titles, but just like extremely blunt.
The last one we called wrong one to fuck with and this one is
make Them beg for Death. I love that in them. It's so them.
Yeah hard Lands, aren't they. Yeah? It just sounds like a
fist slamming you into concrete asking to be On September the eighth, they've also
announced a US tour which features the Acacia Strain, Despised Icon, Creeping Death,
and Tactosa. So if you are in the US and you fancy having
your brain like bashed into a pulp, that's a pretty heavy night. That's
the best night ever of your deathcore kids, didn't it? Absolutely so?
Make Them Beg for Death? Very very nice. They take quite a long
time between records, like it's six years between this and the previous one.
It was five years for those two. So it is actually even though they
kind of all they give you what you know you want, but it's always
like, oh yeah, dying feats record. And when I saw them May
of this year, it reminded me. I was like, yeah, fuck,
I love this band, so sign me up for that's elsewhere. Griddlink
are back. We They've got a new album called Coronet Jupiter, which is
a September five think griddling. You may not know, but this is a
pretty big release for the kind of extreme end of what we do because it's
been nine years since they released what at the time was originally a farewell record.
Gridlink are one of the kind of the best most important bands of kind
of twenty first century grindcore in terms of doing kind of progressive and mind blowing
things in very very short packages. So when this came out with our people
in the discord being like, do a grid Link album club, So maybe
we will at some point. I think it's a bit soon if we've just
done Genghistron, but eventually we might, you know, come round to stuff
like this. But Gridlink this track that they have released, it's like a
minute and fifteen seconds long and it's fucking venom in it. Oh, my
dad is insane. It's how long is it? Like a minute and a
half. It speeds by, but if you listen to the guitars, there's
so much going on. Yeah, that's the thing where bands like Gridlink and
you know, some of their predecessors like Discordant Access and stuff. It's like
in the middle, there's this weird, like almost jaunty, like the kind
of offsetting you riff part HM and the of the end. I think it's
the last like twenty seconds, just like a start stoppy MATTHI riff over a
blast beat and it's sort of it's quite disorientating and it's really cool. This
song is mental and I'm I'm actually really really into it. Yeah. Well,
with the Griddling album, I can't imagine it'll be longer than fucking twenty
five minutes, and I'm sure there'll be a lot of very very interesting to
get your head album. So, you know, grindcore heads everywhere are rejoicing
over that one. Carn't Effects have got any album that's called Necromantium in the
increasing you know, necrofication of carn Effects. That's how I'm October the sixth,
Tesseract. I've got a new album called War of Being that's out September
the fifteenth. Mark you're excited for a Tessaract. Oh hell yeah? Did
you hear the song they've released. I didn't bother really listening to it because
I don't like Tesseract. It's twelve minutes long, mate, it's great.
I'm glad I didn't bother listening to it because I don't like Tesseract, but
everyone else have fun. Orbit Culture have a new album called Descent. That's
that in August the eighteenth. I think this is the Will this be the
follow up to their twenty twenty album, I don't know if they put one
in between those. Orbit Culture have become particularly I suppose in the last or
of year or so they've they've bubbled up even more as another of the most
kind of spoken about, championed kind of bands, sort of circling that kind
of you know, US metal circuit. When this band kind of broke through,
I guess with that twenty twenty album, I took a listen to it
and when this is not for me at all, I took umbridge with ways
the record sounded in the way I often do. But I think, particularly
with them, that kind of again American metal core sound, and there are
traits of their sound and performances and whatnot that I don't think work at all.
Mark you, as we were sort of suggested with the ghost in side
song, you like dumb American metal more than I do. Perhaps Orbit Culture
you enjoyed that album, there's there's new stuff from them. Here I do
the song. It's sort of built on this big, almost industrial stomp right
right. It sounds a bit like a German band who I don't really want
to talk about right now. It's fine, you know. The riff is
big, it's chunky. It sort of hits the spot the chorus he sounds
Hetfield. You could have played me this until me it was a song off
the last album that I forgot about, and they'd be like, yeah,
sure, it's not stuck with me really, but it hits the spot in
a way that these bands tend to do. Yeah, maybe we'll review this
album. Maybe we won't. I don't know. After what else is I
think August is a fairly busy month, so i'll say it here in case
we don't review it. When they came out and there was like, oh
yeah, the vocally sounds like Hetfield. To me, it sounds less like
James Hetfield and more like when people in the late nineties were doing very bad
Hetfield impressions. And the example I use is that. And it took again
because I didn't listen to this band very often because I don't like him.
But when the chorus came in and it's the first time I heard that voice
in a few years. It made me kind of recoil because when he does,
like all crashes down on the inside, like it's it's like the male
vocalist from Lacuna Coil doing a David Drayman is what it is. It's it's
that level of kind of like weird, try hard, throaty hoarseness but doing
like Draymanism vocal lines. And I don't understand it at all. I don't.
I don't understand how that's the sound that people find appealing. It's so
it comes in and it like derails the song. Yeah, it's like a
kid dressing up as his dad or something. Yeah. I don't want to
defend it too heavily, like I'm never going to listen to the song again.
Well, I'm gonna listen to the album. But I don't know.
I'm not passionate about this band really, I just okay, I thought you
like the more than you do by the sounds of it. But they're getting
buzz and I'll be seeing them fairly soon because they're supporting that Trivium tour over
here. Oh yeah, when when I suspect they might get eaten alive,
I believe from within. But yeah, I just that chorus comes in and
that matter is like what are you doing? So? Why? Why?
Why are you making yourself sing like this? Yeah? It's really forced,
isn't it. Um? You know, I'm happy to sort of listen to
this stuff in the background and I'm like, yes, that sounds nice and
chunky. I like nice and chunky metal. Um. But yeah, comparing
them to the Blood from Lacronic Oil Jesus man. We'll see if it goes
any further, But I mean, as of yeah, I'm not convinced now.
The One Day Years have announced that they basically go through their entire fucking
catalog, haven't they an album at a time? Emperor's style apart from Emperor's
stopped after the second one. But the Wonder Years anounced that they are going
to be a tenth anniversary tour for I think the one that a lot of
people will been waiting for the Greatest Generation is of course ten years old this
year, and they are doing a UK tour over here. Whether they'll be
playing that in full, I know that Sam will almost definitely be wanting to
go to that Mark would have The Greatest Generation in full for you, because
I know that you're like, The Wonder Years aren't a band that you really
talk about very much, even though pop punk is like your thing. Would
you go for a night of the Greatest Generation? Ah? Maybe, I
don't know. If it was put in front of me, I'm sure i'd
have a good time. I do like that record, but I don't I
don't like what The Wonder Years have sort of done afterwards. I think Super
has become sort of a caricature of himself and I hate listening to it.
This makes me sound like an old fucking like hot Take Merchant. The Upsides
is my album. I'm a pop punk guy. I think The Upsides is
great. Unfortunately, the Upside Anniversary was when COVID was happening, so they
only did a couple shows for it and then never all that. If they
did a tour of The Upsides, I'm making sure I'm there the Greatest Generation.
It's it's a great album, don't get me wrong, but I'm not
clamoring for it particularly. Okay, well, a lot of people, I'm
sure very much will they So you can go and you know, enjoy that
to your heart's content and yell about how you're twenty six even though you're all
long past twenty six at this point, and fucking news, you know,
hot off the presses. When we were doing this episode, Randy Blithe has
cut his dreadlocks off. What do you see this? No heaven was he
gone there. He's just like almost shaved head, like his hair's all gone.
They were playing a show and he's come out and he's hairless. I
am flabbergasted. That's fucking weird in it. He's had dreadlocks for approaching a
decade. I guess because I despect like when I was getting into Lamb of
Gods, um sort of you know, a turn of the twenty tens,
late nort he's going into the twenty tents. He had sort of longish hair,
hadn't fully developed into the dreads yet, but ever since kind of you
know, post that, you know, I guess, I guess, sort
of the prison situation, everything, it's like dreadlocked Randy Blythe has been the
image. And I know this is very weird to be talking about a man's
hair cut like it's a big deal, but the kind of do you know
what I mean? Where I say, like the silhouette of Randy Blithe is
like a big part of the Lamb of Good live show and kind of how
he bounds across the stage and everything, and those dreads they're not they're not
small. No, he has sort of like an unrealdy head. But when
I think of Lamb of Gods, when I got into Lamb of God,
of sort of wrath era. So I picked her in with long black hair.
Yeah, that's sort of like fringe and stuff. He had kind of
around actually awake and stuff like that. But like seeing him with almost no
hair, it's very weird. It's like it's like, you know, I
know people talk about white people with dreads, but there are two people that
I can think of in rock for whom if they cut off their dreads,
white people like Randy byThe and Rob Zombie. Those are two dreaded guys right
there, and one of them isn't anymore. That's a shame. Rob was
on the zone. He's the last remaining bastion of white guys in rock with
dreads. Keep championing it, Rob, even though I don't know, someone
might say otherwise, whatever, But yeah, that's shocking. News questions come
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But it's a it's an ever evolving thing, so let's do it.
What have been your favorite non TMM scope releases of the year, so basically
stuff from outside of the normal walls of rock and metal and an alternative.
What have you been up to this year? Mark, I've actually not got
as many as I usually do. Like last year there was tons. What
was someone from last year? If we say out the last twelve months.
I love the Runa Sawayama album. I like the Lizzle album a lot my
answers from specifically this year the McFly hard rock album that existed, but of
course you've said that. Hey listen, those boys can write I hit and
there's some catchy tunes on there. Um. Last night my brother made me
listen to the Kim Petras album Okay Right, and it's just a really fun,
upbeat, over the top pop album. She's got one song that was
released as a single like several years ago, but on the album is Coconuts
on it. Yeah, it is. Coconuts is the catchiest pop song I've
ever heard in my life. Again, it's like several years old at this
point, so it's like well worn, but we were obsessed with it.
Oh it's a manger. There's tons of bangers on their on the record.
Actually, I hate the Sam Smith song that she's on, so I mean,
if there's more Coconuts than I'm in. There's a song on They're called
Castle in the Sky, which is a proper raver, massive pump and beat,
and that's the reason my brother showed it to me, because he dow
I'd love it as like a screw understand, it is a banger. Unfortunately,
the Sam Smith is on there, but as a bonus track, so
you can like pretend it's not there. Okay, Well, I mean if
Coconuts is on the album, then it is by default the greatest pop album
of the year. Even the rest of it is dogshit. I've not had
much this year, really, and the one I came up with it,
I've not actually listened to it a huge deal at all, but I know
lots of people have, but I guess so far, the Jpeg Mafia Danny
brown Scaring the Hose record is like pretty fun for a hip hop record.
I haven't really loved anything Danny Brown has done since a Trocy exhibition quite to
that degree, but there's some fun beats and stuff on there. The big
one is coming though, because I mean again still from the end of last
years or last twelve months, Carlo A. Jepson's The Loneliest Time is one
that we still be having lots of fun listening to, which was a big
grower was at the time it was like slightly muted. There's a lot of
more kind of you know, sort of slightly subdued songs on it. But
now still so many of those songs are on all the time. But it's
really great. But you know the way she does those side ber chords for
all of her albums since the Motion, she comes up with the side B
of like bonus things. The one for this one is coming out in a
couple of weeks time, but instead of The Loneliest Time Side B like all
the other ones would be called, it's called the Loveliest Time. And if
that's not a good omen for what I'll be having, I don't know what
is. So I'm sure. The loveliest time is going to be my answer
there. Yeah, there's a quite nice dream pop album by an artist called
Frankie Rose that came out. I've been listening to that a little bit,
just nice. Who was that we were listening to? Like a hip hop
artist the other day? Who like just sounds like the Beastie Boys? What
was that from? What was a release from this year? Have they got
one our joy Vance and Bray? Yeah, they've at least a couple of
singles this year. There EPs from last year. But they're always releasing songs.
If they have like an EP or something or an album out at any
point, that would be a jolly. The best new are just but maybe
ever you know, yeah, I always, I always word twice for a
measure. What's for business and what's for pleasure? Go check them out if
you don't know, they're a right laugh. David Gelon asks can you think
of a release that was much loved, adored and shared them release and got
a heap of buzz, but then for whatever reason just sank without a trace,
never to be really heard from again. This is a good question for
you, Mark, because all we do is seemingly dig up all things.
I remember that, but I mean there are there are obviously, really the
obvious hype examples of like you know, memoirs of a Murderer or whatever,
or in the undergrounds on like Ancient Wisdom or whatever. Someone responded to this
question saying, even though they liked them, Black Peaks and Milk Teeth are
things that fall onto this And I think that's harsh because their bands that just
broke up, and people still talk and remember about those, right, like,
particularly Black Peaks. The reason like we still go on and it's not
just like you know, asking the pokers, like, there's a fairly large
community of people who still rave about Black Peaks, and it's how much of
a shame as they are around. And I think what you're mistaking here is
the idea of bands who didn't go on to fulfill the kind of results and
have come to the fruition that we hope for them, But those records they
may we still talk about. And I think by that same logic you could
say, like let live, right And if I was to say let live
for this question, people would fucking have my head. So things that are
more like something that was well liked at the time but no one actually does
mention it. Now, Hey, Pern, do you remember Mutiny within?
This is why you were here for this question. Was that was that really
beloved at the time? Was that well acclaimed beloved by me? Actually?
Yeah, to be fair, I think it. I think you got well
reviewed. But I think pre album they were really hyped. There was a
lot of buzz around them, and then I think the lack of buzz came
when the album didn't deliver. Okay, um. I have a few like
do you remember Japanese Voyeurs, No, I don't really. They were sort
of like pre Milk Teeth, grungy, sludgy, like alternative rock band.
I think they had the song called milk Teeth and that's where they got the
name from. But they were like the hot thing. They got their lead
reviewing kerrang and stuff, and then just completely disappeared, right yeah, Because
again I was thinking about things where buzz didn't turn into things sticking around.
And there's a couple of examples that I know you will criticize me for because
I know you love them. But like, no one ever seems to talk
about Zolkes anymore. No one seems to talk about Hawkeyes anymore, and that
was a name you'd hear a lot in twenty twelve. I didn't want the
same then because I love them. Yeah, I think one of the ones
where maybe it's what the band did afterwards kind of ruined it. But the
first Wilson album, oh yeah, I think that was the one that came
out in twenty thirteen. It was like the full blast fockery. Yeah,
that was one where you couldn't like people would really trying to make Wilson take
off then, and then five years later they were doing essentially like smash Mouth
songs and I think we're a ten part ten years past people caring about Wilson,
And that was one that like I was like, oh yeah, people
don't talk about full blast fuckery anymore too. They there was a band called
Dangerous from Australia. They were signed to Epitaph and they got on tour with
the Young Guns and staff and they got good reviews. I really liked that
record. It's sort of like a hive Z pronxy thing. But they did
this tour of the Young Guns and then immediately fell off the face of the
earth, right, Yeah, I suppose I was thinking more about it again,
so some of some of those UK ones that were kind of inescapable for
a while and they perpetually beat everywhere. But then I feel like we're a
few years pass people remembering them like Asteroid Boys and the one hundred, We're
a rowery a lot, and then going beyond just like you know, I
remember this band that didn't actually do anything. No, I'm trying to think
of some bigger examples, and I think this is one that's both to do
with the kind of general fate of the band and some of what maybe surround
on some of the members as well. But I was thinking about things that
at the time really did feel like moments like not just I got a bit
of buzz whatever they didn't deliver on, but like a band like properly stepping
up to kind of become the face of something. And it's amazing how a
decade has put restoring force by of mice and men so far in the rear
view mirror, where that record really felt like it was like, oh,
yeah, they're one of our big metal bands now, right, And it's
like it couldn't feel further away. Now. God, yeah, that's a
great show. I listened to that again recently I think it's still really good,
but you're right, it's I like the record, but no one talks
about it anymore. No, No, they don't. Or of mice and
men in general. Really same with like Miss May I. Miss May I
at heart was like a big you probably weren't paying attention, but at heart
felt like I never liked Miss May. I think the difference with someone of
Restoring Force is that felt like almost like them. Like I was like,
oh, maybe they can go on and be like a bring me the Horizon
or someone like that was like a really big kind of breakthrough. That was
when they were playing Brixton places like that, and then it kind of fell
apart. But and then I was also thinking about kind of you know,
hype and acclaim around like older band's output. And I know that some people
would say fearin oculum here. I think that's harsh and I think there's a
much better answer than that, involving some of their members. Eat the Elephant.
There's a record that like I didn't go with it at all all the
time, really, but no one talks about it now, right, Like
when was the last time you saw Eat the Elephant? Hype? Jesus I
forgot that even came back. There were there were bands that I similarly felt
it like I was looking over what we reviewed and stuff, and apparently in
twenty twenty on this podcast, I will have reviewed a Pearl Jam record.
I've I've forgot reviewed and listened to that album it was but six and Karrang's
Album of the Year list, But I really I couldn't tell you a thing
Jesus about that. I guess Similarly, the one for me is always the
first Smashing Pumpkins come back album as well. It's like, oh they're black,
Oh they're back, and then I guess similarly, I went looking at
album of the yearlists and stuff from places like Karrang and Metal Hammer, and
I swear like Boston Manner have like multiple ones of these where every time that
band released something, there's a bunch of reviews telling you it's like a landmark,
generation defining rock record, and then you never hear it again, and
the next one comes out and the cycle continues. Yeah, Boston Manner,
every time there's an album, the story is they're serious, nerve guys,
this is the one. They're going to be the big band. Now,
they're not kids anymore. For every fucking album. Again, I don't think
there's any personal slight or anyone in particular. I just I just every time
the Boston man like I forget which ones are like the supposed kind of big
ones, you know, because it does feel like as a real rich repeat
girl on there. And then remember when people like swimmers, remember when that
was a a thing. Is that Billy Johnstrong's Yeah, they read at record
with Berkeley's on Fire that we got around quite and that's a name that I,
again have not thought about in quite some time. Let's move on before
we just get stuck in these kind of holes. James Bentley, before I
go mind empress, Yeah, very much so. James Bentley asks, what's
your favorite trademark slash repeated trick a band does? For example, the four
four drum beats at the end of hymn songs, the enshakari stand like statues,
all the high pitched choral ah bring me the Horizon used on loads of
songs. Probably doesn't sound like that. I just say two of those,
like we did a whole hymn special, And I don't think I ever picked
up on a particular pattern about ending on four four drum beats and then also
this bring me the horizon choir sound. I don't know if there's a particular
you know, obviously there's the heavy usage of keyboards and stuff, but I've
I'm not quite exactly sure which beeause of sound you're referring to here, But
this is one where you go, like, at what point does something become
like a musical trademark like this as opposed to just like a bit of the
sound, right like uh, And so that was where my mind went.
Two things like Gajira pick scrapes or h you know, early Creator roto tom
Fills or the slip stomp, which is when I was the kind of dad,
dad dad, kind of fourth fourth thing. Um, you quite rightfully
said the Mortician slaughtered beat very similarly. Um, but trademarks, and I
guess this goes musically, this goes maybe sort of vocal tidbits whatever. Um,
it's quite a wide interpretation here. Yeah, I fell down a similar
sort of like void of well what separates from just a band sounding like that?
Yeah, But I've actually managed to come up with a few that I
really like. Machine Head have two the machine Head pick slide, and then
Rob Flynn sort of rising into a scream. That's going You didn't even say.
The one that came to mind me was yeah, which is just the
pinch harmonics. Yeah, oh yeah, but whatever. Yeah, So they
got a few. They were a good band room. I love in Children
of Bold them songs when the solo section starts with Alexei les solong and then
there'll be a keyboard solo and then the guitar and the keyboard solo together.
That's so sick. Yeah. Obviously vocally in terms of like ticks and stuff
we we got all day here, like Tom g Warriors. Oh and you
know, hey, hey, obviously peeking them out in type of negative who
who who? Which bands rip off and do brilliant sort of landing halfway between
those in the present day you have the unto others who and you know,
the howling like wolf as well. Max Cavalari has got his eye, a
bath has got his like um and maybe my maybe my favorite of all of
these is just any time in a Dark Throne song when Fenriz goes nocturnal cold
tone and hands over to his partner in crime misfits Woes. I guess if
you want to count them, And then obviously that in turn goes afi and
creeper woes. Any band doing a misfits woe. I mean, Danzig is
full of them, just as an as a person, right, But any
times he does kind of a kind of a downturn of a note like marble,
those kind of things. I always like that ship anytime Ozzie goes all
right now, Yeah, it's a good one one that it's less of a
sort of like a like a drink when you hear it meme a bit like
those. But I always love and Slayer songs when Tom ray a bit like
what you've said about the machine Head rising scream, When Tom a ray a
kind of rises into a bit of a higher like registered before a big break.
So for example, before you see the light, you must die into
everything, and that goes all the way through to you know, repentless.
We're killing ourselves a little more every day. I put the babble in a
poor blood, so none of the glass can affect that kind of ship.
And then I guess you know musical elements that are very much trademarks. I
suppose the kind of strangle cleans you're getting cataly decapitation songs because no one else
does them, or at least can quite replicate them. That's one or any
time. And now on the thrack sample someone saying like go kill yourself before
they go into a riff. That's always nice. I like that. I
love in when taking back Sunday songs and with Adam and John sort of both
singing different vocal lines. I say, singing both sort of shouting until and
building and building until the song ends, two different vocal lines. I always
think that's a really cool trick. There you go, that's good stuff.
The next thing up from us this coming weekend is the two of us were
joined by Sam, are going to be doing this year's summer album Roulette.
We did it last year with the three of us and it was a lot
of fun. That was the episode that gave us great conversations about Alcest's sunniest
record and Trapped under Ice and why slowly we wroted by Obituary is the most
accurate summer of all time. Actually this time across the board, it's maybe
less heavy than that, but it is a really great batch. Apart from
one of Sam's picks, maybe, but generally it's looking like it is going
to be a hoot and I reckon. There's a couple of blinder picks in
there that people didn't see coming. M I'm just gonna say, there's a
great album in there by a band who get don't get taken seriously. And
if you don't take this album seriously, I'm not taking you seriously. Yeah,
there's albums that we maybe won't get to talk about otherwise. It's always
fun when the Roulette throws up that stuff that's different to like an album club
or whatever. I'm looking forward to banging all of those out. I also
put together an episode, another episode of Vinyl Tap. It's been a little
while since we did one of those. People we've all been a kind of
about so how much, but I managed to hop on. So if you
want to hear some more chat about about records and get some more music wrecks
out of that, that will be up to day along with this episode.
If you go over to the That's Something on YouTube channel. When Elliott is
back from his little European ventures, we will steam onto some other stuff.
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Atmeill pay Trion. It's massively appreciated. It keeps us going releases for today,
it's kind of a bit of a slower week. There's a few things
too highlight first, I mean, maybe the most noteworthy of them is the
fact that Voyager are releasing their album Fearless in Love. If you are sort
of why where's that named Voyager? This was Australia's entry in the Eurovision Song
Costs this year, and this is the album that features, to be fair,
the absolute banger of a song that they put forward that oh oh oh,
that is a great tune. So that's out now. We've also got
Evil have followed up there the first of their old Drake fronted records with another
one called The Unknown. The last record was more than that kind of you
know sepulture. Sepulture is kind of extreme thrash. They seem to be kind
of, you know, throwing themselves out in different directions every time consciously.
So this record has much more of a kind of a four four groovy pace
to it. So if that is something that you like in your thrash,
maybe the new Evil will do it for you. This is interesting. Cavalleira
Conspiracy, which is of course Matt Cavalier and Eagle Cavalira's band they today are
releasing someone they have announced for a little while, which is they have done
re recorded versions of the earliest Sepultura releases, the Bestial Devastation EP and the
Morbid Visions album, which are two recordings that are so primal that they are
essentially first wave black metal, right Like, there are people in the Sepultura
fandom who will never go and listen to those, because then there are people
who like KOs Ad more than they will ever go and listen to Sarcophago.
I am someone who very much in values that early Sepretura material, and part
of me goes the idea of rerecording that so it doesn't sound out of tune
and shit is almost like antithetical to what the records are. You're going to
check out rerecorded like first wave black metal era Sepultura, so that it sounds
a bit more current, I think. So, I don't know, it
depends on you know, how it is whether I continue to go back to
it. But you're right, there is sort of sort of the charm of
these young guys who just love rocking out, who just love heavy metal,
being maniacs barely tuned their instruments. That has a certain energy to it that
you will lose, but hey, I'm interested to hear these new ones.
Yeah. I mean the flip side is if this is what it manages to
get some people who maybe will just just never listen to anything that sounds like
more bivisions, right, because more bivisions, it's an ask to listen to
something that sounds like that. If this gets people to go, oh,
actually there's some really cool rips and songs and stuff on this, then I
think that's cool. So maybe one of the more interestings what rerecord projects we've
had in recent memory, So that's out. If you like your symphonic metal,
you know, very euro there's a band called Elaine who have got a
record called We Shall Remain. In alternative rock from Run for Cover Records,
there as a band called Temple of Angels with a record called Endless Pursuit.
Caligram UK underground kind of establishment at this point, they've got a record out
called Position Momentum. Also in your heavier hardcore, there's a man called Chamber
with a record called I Love to Kill For end Rain. The Way of
All Flesh is decay, coming very dangerously close to a gagira injunction. There
aren't they, but this is I think it's on Relapse Records. This one.
It's got members of Picked, Draya and stuff sort of playing heavy,
aggressive stuff there. And for a little bit of kind of blackened material,
there's a man called Detis with a record called Irreversible. And now we are
out, so cheers very much for listening. As said, we will have
the summer album Roulette coming over this weekend, for that's no matter, patrons.
We also have our insidious tam Does Horror that we just did before that
as well, talking about the new movie and the original classic and all that
good stuff. Here next week we will be talking about eight of the coolest
smaller releases that are kicking about at the moment, So that is going to
be a good one, so be there for that. See you soon.