1 00:00:26,679 --> 00:00:30,600 Hello everybody. Welcome to That's No Metal, your weekly rock and metal podcast, 2 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,960 and welcome to another edition of hyper Blast, where we fire the news 3 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,799 that you in hyper fashion, all the big stuff that you need to know, 4 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,960 what releases are coming out there you're worth hearing. Thanks for joining us. 5 00:00:40,039 --> 00:00:43,200 My name is Parenthish and just joining me today. Marks Anderson is back 6 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,719 again. Can't get rid of him at the moment. I'd like to apologize 7 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:51,880 to the city of Aberdeen. Yeah, you riled up all the what are 8 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:57,240 people called it? There from Aberdeen? Aberdeen's does the Dean the Deans from 9 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,280 the Deans, but yeah, absolutely fucked off all the Deans. Apologize there. 10 00:01:03,119 --> 00:01:06,519 Sam is away seeing spirit Box tonight. Meanwhile, I've done fuck all 11 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,519 this week, Abert. I've been walking around in the forest, but that's 12 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,680 just what I do. Yeah, I've just been watching Mission Impossible movies, 13 00:01:12,719 --> 00:01:17,680 thinking about Tom Cruise Climbing the Bird Khalifa, oh hell yeah, and need 14 00:01:17,719 --> 00:01:19,599 to be doing that. I already watched them like a couple of months ago, 15 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,159 but I'm seeing all my pals watch them and I'm like, yeah, 16 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:29,879 I could do. I did listen to the two Hour Swan's album just before 17 00:01:29,879 --> 00:01:33,640 recording this you know Swans update. Oh yeah, it's quite quite a surprisingly 18 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,799 dreamy Swan's record at times, actually, apart from the forty four minute song, 19 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,040 which is very disquieting. I have been putting some plans into action as 20 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,439 well for kind of TMM over the summer and more events that we will be 21 00:01:44,439 --> 00:01:48,239 at. So that's all good. Today. It's our last Hyperblast before our 22 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,799 big reviews episode next week, and we've got a whole bunch of album announcements 23 00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:55,959 actually it's one of those weeks. But the most exciting thing that we need 24 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,239 to talk about is the activity that has been coming out of a camp we 25 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:05,879 may not have heard from in quite a while, none other than the Creed 26 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:15,319 camp. There is a lot of hints at the moment towards Creed returning to 27 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,280 our to our ranks. For I mean, I guess, you know, 28 00:02:19,479 --> 00:02:23,080 when was the last time that Creed were an active band. That they might 29 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,719 have done some reunion shows at like one point or another, but I suppose 30 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:31,120 the last time that the band Creed were like fully around were Yeah, there 31 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,159 we go. They performed between two thousand and nine and two thousand and twelve, 32 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,199 very briefly, but we all know it's the early two thousands heyday of 33 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:45,960 Creed as the particular peak of that mountain. But there is always talk when 34 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,840 bands sort of like blank slate their social media pages, which Creed have done 35 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,719 with a new you know, profititor and everything. But also beyond that, 36 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:58,360 there is a website that has been launched that I think requires you to sign 37 00:02:58,479 --> 00:03:00,159 up to have a look at what's going on. So I mean, maybe 38 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:04,800 come tomorrow, as this episode goes out, we will have Creed news. 39 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:14,159 But I I am sure that you share a certain kind of quasi ironic, 40 00:03:14,719 --> 00:03:20,800 like on that line between ironic and actually fully sincere, like I know, 41 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:27,879 affection for Creed. Fuck that irony you normally I love a lot of US 42 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:34,919 radio rock. There is about let's say about five Creed songs that I genuinely 43 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,599 love and go to bat for. There's there's at least a couple. Yeah, 44 00:03:38,639 --> 00:03:45,240 and again they're they're just so ridiculous. And I know that you know, 45 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,800 we did not kind of we we weren't around for Creeds like peak exposure. 46 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,000 And I know there are people who you know, were into let's say 47 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,719 credible rock and metal kind of around two thousand and one, for whom the 48 00:03:57,759 --> 00:04:00,919 idea of Creed coming back is like the worst thing they ever heard. But 49 00:04:01,919 --> 00:04:04,080 I don't know, being away from it, that there is just something that's 50 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:13,080 so just so nah about Creed that it becomes kind of incredible again. And 51 00:04:14,439 --> 00:04:18,000 the thing with Creed being away is that, you know, it's you wonder 52 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:24,519 whether they have any place in the modern day rock and metal sphere. They 53 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,839 feel so their peak of popularity feels so tied to one point in time, 54 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,600 and they've all done, you know, obviously, like Scott stap I know 55 00:04:30,639 --> 00:04:33,279 that he's had kind of various personalsues and stuff where he's been kind of out 56 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:35,000 of the game, but he had, you know, his little solo career. 57 00:04:35,399 --> 00:04:39,160 Notably, of course, you've got Mark Tremonti and the other guys who've 58 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,680 been in Older Bridge and and maybe Older Bridge have been gotten tired of perpetually 59 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,959 subheadlining download and gone. You know what, maybe it's time to open our 60 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,800 arms wide again. But what does the world do if Creed come back? 61 00:04:50,959 --> 00:04:55,839 Like, what does Creed in twenty twenty three do? I don't know. 62 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,199 It has the potential to be a phenomenon because you get all the moms and 63 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,399 the dads from back in the day who go to one shore year, they'll 64 00:05:04,439 --> 00:05:12,959 go to the Creed show. But so a whole generation of memours who love 65 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:19,000 Creed ironically or not, probably will you know, pay up to go pay 66 00:05:19,079 --> 00:05:23,959 tribute to the greatest of all time. What does it mean in the UK? 67 00:05:24,319 --> 00:05:28,800 I have no idea would they because I suppose again we look at the 68 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,680 US A couple of years ago, mud Vein reunited, and mud Vein are 69 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,160 a band who, you know, don't mean a great deal to the sort 70 00:05:35,199 --> 00:05:40,680 of the landscape of rock and metal in you know, over twenty years past 71 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,639 their past their heyday. And when they re in a a couple years ago 72 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,240 in America it was like, oh my god, mud Finer back. They 73 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,639 immediately topped like all these huge festivals and I's over here. We kind of 74 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,519 like, yeah, okay, sure you do what you do over there. 75 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,319 And Creed is many times larger than mud Vein, right like many again, 76 00:06:00,399 --> 00:06:02,199 they have a kind of I know, mud Vein have the brooding meme, 77 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:10,079 but like Creed have a that there's a Creed like ironic icons right to a 78 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:12,959 whole load of people. And but also, as you say, kind of 79 00:06:13,079 --> 00:06:15,680 like that kind of Middle America factor is so like they were like the rock 80 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,199 band that those people liked in two thousand and one. So there will be 81 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,079 a completely un ironic let's all you know again, particularly as you say, 82 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,800 and kind of a you know that kind of a Middle America factor would be 83 00:06:27,879 --> 00:06:30,639 huge here. I mean I would Creed headline download I don't know, and 84 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:39,240 i'd i'd like to see it strangely like it. Yeah, how you so 85 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,680 you're fully like ironically. I think they've got a couple of great songs. 86 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:50,600 I think Mike my Sacrifice is brilliant. Wow, I think one more scream 87 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:57,160 three. Yeah, Higher is probably a probably a great song. Higher is 88 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:59,720 definitely a great song. Yeah, They've got a couple of like come of 89 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:00,759 their head, the ones. You know. There's one called like Bullets. 90 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,279 I think that opens one of their records. That's pretty that's pretty pretty gnarly 91 00:07:04,879 --> 00:07:09,319 and like again, I don't know whether it is a good song or not, 92 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:15,360 but with arms wide open, I can absolutely sing very passionately compared to 93 00:07:15,399 --> 00:07:19,079 like modern day radio rock. I'd to take Creed all day. There have 94 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,240 been so many of those bands that have kind of existed post Creed, including 95 00:07:23,279 --> 00:07:26,480 Older Bridge. You're like again, let's not be around the bush. The 96 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,360 alder Bridge kind of batting average of like consistency is much better than Creeds. 97 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,279 Right, but oh yeah, so many of those songs. The reason that 98 00:07:33,399 --> 00:07:36,839 those bands have failed to progress to the highest level is they don't actually have 99 00:07:36,879 --> 00:07:41,839 any fucking songs, and so many of them like just it becomes a very 100 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,279 very forgettable, sort of interchangeable background noise of like as you say, sort 101 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:51,680 of Sunday main stage download fair. Creed have the undeniable they have never left 102 00:07:53,160 --> 00:08:03,000 public consciousness songs, and people have so much like um warmth towards Creed. 103 00:08:03,079 --> 00:08:07,439 I think it's because a lot of those radio rock bands are quite pull faced 104 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,439 and they take themselves very seriously, and it's very sincere and Creed to do 105 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:13,959 that. But Creed do that while being ridiculous. Yeah, Creed do that 106 00:08:13,959 --> 00:08:18,279 while having like doing that Super Bowl halftime show when they've got like spinning like 107 00:08:18,399 --> 00:08:26,879 dancers in the ropes and stuff angels like yeah, so his fun image at 108 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,720 Outbreak Festival and me and Sam like as we've heard all that reviews stuff, 109 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,720 were staying in the same places. We were staying with a mutual friend of 110 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,840 ours, Nathan, right, and we all rum and when outbreak Fest were 111 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,639 like the days were over, we'd all go back and we just watched stuff 112 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,200 on the TV on YouTube, and we watched a bunch of like Creed live 113 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:48,320 sets, and one that we watched was it must have been I'm gonna say 114 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,559 two thousand and two that date wise makes sense of Creed playing I think the 115 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:58,240 Winter Olympics somewhere and they played I'm not sure what song it was, it 116 00:08:58,279 --> 00:09:01,120 was, you know, a very emotional one and they got aunt all of 117 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:03,399 them, mate, yeah, and they got a bunch of kids out on 118 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:09,639 stage and we were sort of again like like um like fast forwarding through his 119 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,200 video and stuff, and we saw these kids and I was like, Okay, 120 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,120 who these kids? And I guessed, I was like, I bet 121 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:18,480 those are nine to eleven kids. I bet those are kids who have you 122 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:20,759 know, lost love one's parents whatever in nine levels. Of course, you 123 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:26,039 know, very very shortly before this, uh this this happened, and I 124 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:30,120 was completely right. Creed at the Winter Olympics two thousand and two performed a 125 00:09:30,159 --> 00:09:31,799 song where they got a bunch of kids whose parents had been killed in nine 126 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,159 to eleven to essentially sit on the stage just sort of look a bit glum 127 00:09:35,159 --> 00:09:43,240 and wave American flags while Creed very recently and that is like that that image 128 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,120 feels like of a different world to the one we are currently in. Right, 129 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:50,639 It's very hard to addine Creed existing at that point in time when that 130 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:56,840 was the level of full, you know, American sincerity. I suppose that 131 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,320 that was there, and you know, if Creed were to come back and 132 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,440 release the material a real or whatever, I mean, there's always a fun 133 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,120 factor with Stap right, but the fear would be they would fall into just 134 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,159 being like what Blackstone, Sherry or whatever like have become, which is just 135 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,200 that kind of stock thing. Like does the particular hymbo magic of Creed like 136 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:18,320 not translate to another era. But I also think there is just something so 137 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:26,159 there is a very daft charisma that is again completely earnest but completely kind of 138 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,159 flamboyant at the same time. I don't know, see I Oh god, 139 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,360 I'm about to vote myself. I was actually re listening to some of the 140 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:39,480 Scott Stapps solo album in twenty nineteen before any of this kicked off, just 141 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:43,960 because I listened to shit. I remember there was some really funny stuff on 142 00:10:45,039 --> 00:10:50,919 that record, insane and stuff like that. But there's some choruses on that 143 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:54,960 that are massive. So if you can bring the like Tremonti riffing and Scott 144 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,240 delivering belt of choruses, I don't know, I could get excited about the 145 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,399 prospect of new Creed. Yeah. I it's one of those things that you 146 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:11,360 almost on one hand, of course and nevitably at some point it would happen 147 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:15,759 because they were so huge that there is obviously there's so many people that will 148 00:11:15,759 --> 00:11:18,120 go out and see it that it will it will be a huge event. 149 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,600 But also there was the level of like, you know, particularly the other 150 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:24,879 guys like again much wanting everyone had kind of sort of moved past it and 151 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:30,080 had had started this whole other career for them or maybe a bit like when 152 00:11:30,159 --> 00:11:33,159 like when Dez went back to doing Coal Chamber or whatever. Ye, but 153 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:37,200 I don't know, it was it was like one of the reunions that you 154 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:43,240 thought, like, you didn't predict it happening at any particular moment. It 155 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,840 won't be like, oh Creed of backt so, and it was sort of 156 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,840 one of those like weird ones that got away almost and m yeah, I 157 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:56,360 mean again, it's very hard to tell how ironic I am in this and 158 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,279 how genuinely excited I would be. But I do know that if I was 159 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,000 at a festival and you put Creed in front of me, I would have 160 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:11,840 like the fun that I would have watching that is worth anything else that might 161 00:12:11,879 --> 00:12:16,639 be coming out of this. So like I do sincerely hope that this Creed 162 00:12:16,759 --> 00:12:22,360 online rumblings results in the physical presence of a staff and the gang in front 163 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:26,919 of us. Yeah, you put me in a situation where I'm seeing higher 164 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:31,600 alive, I am in heaven. Yeah, it might genuinely show up a 165 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,480 lot of the stuff like that that's been around that doesn't have the same factor 166 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:43,759 in the show and everything. So well, Creed watch everyone. We also 167 00:12:43,919 --> 00:12:50,240 in some very America centric news that huge Power Trip festival that was going on 168 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:54,919 that was announced with like six acts on the bills for you know, a 169 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:58,480 huge amount of money, but it was the biggest acts in rock and metal 170 00:12:58,519 --> 00:13:01,000 that you can imagine kind of legacy. Why Ozzie Osbourne was kind of kind 171 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,120 of brought out with retirement to play that show and he has not made an 172 00:13:05,159 --> 00:13:09,320 announcement that physically he does not feel yet ready up to performing that And Juda's 173 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,399 Priest have been brought in to do it. Very very cool for Priests. 174 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,480 They are significantly the smallest band of the six that are on there, and 175 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:20,879 it's like, wow, yeah, plucky Little Duda's Priests, you go at 176 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:30,519 it. But from the Aussie front, please please just retire like you did 177 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,080 the retirement announcement a few years ago and we were all like yep, fair 178 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:39,639 enough, sail off into the sunsets. And it feels bad watching him force 179 00:13:39,759 --> 00:13:43,879 himself to be like, no, I actually can still do it and then 180 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:50,440 perpetually not actually arrive because time takes its toll. Yeah, this sort of 181 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:56,399 breaks my heart. And clearly he just loves he just loves it. But 182 00:13:56,879 --> 00:14:01,360 it's time to let go, Ozzie. You you've had an amazing career, 183 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,799 that's you know, stop trying to fool yourself into thinking you're going to be 184 00:14:07,879 --> 00:14:11,720 rock and hard. Yeah. I just I just wanted to stop being dragged 185 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,840 out. I just want him to just you know, chill out for a 186 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:16,960 bit. And seeing him again come out for this and then have to be 187 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:20,279 replaced, it's like, oh, this isn't isn't fun at all? Music 188 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:26,320 wise, this is interesting. The Ghost Inside have released their first single since 189 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,840 twenty twenty with their big return record, A single is called earn It. 190 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:35,200 That twenty twenty album was kind of it was it was overshadowed in a couple 191 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,879 of ways. First, of course, by like it was overshall i'd be 192 00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:41,799 the wrong word. It was very difficult to make any kind of sort of 193 00:14:41,799 --> 00:14:48,159 objective critical judgment about it, first because of the general narrative of them returning 194 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,039 and coming back, at which point it was just such it was so characterized 195 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,200 by kind of joy and positivity that that record had come to fruition that that 196 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:01,000 was just the main takeaway. But then there was some of the negative stuff 197 00:15:01,039 --> 00:15:05,879 that arose kind of as soon as the record was released. So it feels 198 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:09,039 like the ghost inside comeback. Apart from a couple of live shows, I 199 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:11,440 know Sam has been too like we haven't really been able to talk about it 200 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:16,360 that fluidly. I suppose that this is them kind of again, kind of 201 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,600 really opening the next chapter. I mean, like, Okay, where do 202 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:24,759 we go now post all of that stuff that's happened in the last few years 203 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:35,519 and weird choice in it. It is this the bad omensification of metalcore. 204 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,840 Hearing goes inside with a gent tone that then also has like kind of electronics 205 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,440 and sense and stuff on it. I won't go as far as say bad 206 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,480 Omens that's very very harsh because it didn't sound I don't know that's say, 207 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:54,639 like overly weak or flimsy I suppose, but yeah, but it does sound 208 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:58,720 like kind of any band that have tried to be architects in recent years. 209 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,080 It's very weird hearing the Ghost Inside, who felt like a band who would 210 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,159 never have to change sound very much. They're like hate Breed or someone right. 211 00:16:07,639 --> 00:16:12,159 Feels weird to see them making a swing at that. Instrumentally it sounds 212 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:17,000 nothing like them, to the point where if you just played it to me 213 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,039 blind and asked me to guess, I don't think the Ghost Inside no, 214 00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:26,919 whoever, I think it hits hard. Jonathan sounds great on it, and 215 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:32,519 that chorus is really big. I kind of am really into this, Okay, 216 00:16:32,919 --> 00:16:34,159 yeah, the coorse for me the chorus hit, and again it just 217 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,960 sounded so kind of off and off what Ghost Inside chorus should sound like, 218 00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:41,240 and closer to any number of sort of stock choruses in that regard that we've 219 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,279 got from medical bands. That was a bit just like kind of m for 220 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:51,039 me and this is the song once, but I thought you've got a really 221 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,759 clear identity that you've worked for years to really sort of establish. I know 222 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,440 that bands want to try over things and that, but this feels again even 223 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,839 more so than like architects who have kind of, you know, slowly moved 224 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,799 into a territory where some people are like, you know, the things that 225 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:10,839 I loved about these levens for your band isn't so there so much now. 226 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,759 But that felt like a steadier change, whereas this feels more like a oh, 227 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:21,400 this is just this just doesn't fit you guys, does it. Yeah. 228 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:25,119 I think my praise for it is more sort of if I divorce it 229 00:17:25,279 --> 00:17:29,039 from the fact that it's the ghost in side doing it as a like radio 230 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,880 metal song. I like it. If you told me this is the new 231 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,359 like of Mice and Men song or something, I'd be like, holy shit, 232 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,680 this is the best of sentence in the decade. Right. Yeah, 233 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,200 I'm not that I suppose you know that thing. I think it just sounds 234 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,799 so close to any number of things that we would have had. I can't 235 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:48,559 get doing I can't get too inspired or passionate about it. I can't say 236 00:17:48,599 --> 00:17:52,160 I think it's a particularly good example. It's it's it's a example of a 237 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,079 thing. There is lots of Yeah it is. Yeah, you're right. 238 00:17:56,079 --> 00:18:02,680 It's a real shame that they've sort of left behind quite a unique and empowering 239 00:18:02,759 --> 00:18:07,119 sound. Yeah again, who sends like everyone else. It just feels weird, 240 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,400 Like it feels weird to do after you know, the kind of the 241 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,440 comeback album, which you know, for all tes Versus sounded like the ghost 242 00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:17,079 inside and that was them being like, obviously, we've we've been through so 243 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,799 much. Here as an album that is us getting back to our feet, 244 00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:22,480 and I think we all know again from the live shows and everything, it's 245 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,880 like they literally they never can be the same band they were pre their accident. 246 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,920 That's just the kind of the the human toll that these things take, 247 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,640 and that's completely understandable. But it does feel weird too. I don't know, 248 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,599 you can you can grow with that without signing your identity away, And 249 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,519 that's what this sort of sounds like to me. Elsewhere. I think a 250 00:18:44,519 --> 00:18:48,079 band who are you know, undergoing a couple of subtle changes, but the 251 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,279 core is a lot more recognizable. So fal Bard have announced their new record 252 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,720 is called The Weight of the Mask and that's coming out on October the sixth. 253 00:18:56,039 --> 00:19:00,319 We already spoke about a single that is going to be on this album 254 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,559 when it was released a while ago when they announced that they have signed to 255 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,720 Nuclear Blast Record. But I'm going to throw to the to you for this 256 00:19:04,759 --> 00:19:08,119 one. Then, Mark, there is a new Foul Barred song out along 257 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,119 with this, So there's a couple of singles out. You love this band. 258 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,480 We all kind of do, but I think you particularly have, Like 259 00:19:14,519 --> 00:19:17,960 the last record was like you were super super keen on it. What are 260 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,160 you making of the new kind of foul Bard stuff? I think it. 261 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,640 I like that it's the harshness is still there. It's still got like a 262 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,279 real punch to it. There's like a punk a punk pace, and like 263 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:36,240 a real engine to this while keeping the glacial guitars. And I really like 264 00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:41,759 there's like vocal trade offs. And the latest song they've released, which I 265 00:19:41,759 --> 00:19:45,160 think is really cool. I don't think it's as catchy as anything off the 266 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:51,640 last record, but it sounds and again I only listened to it once or 267 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,799 twice, it sounds really promising. Yeah, I think I've noticed again with 268 00:19:55,839 --> 00:19:56,880 this this new Nuclear Last stuff. I've done, there's a bit more of 269 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,119 a kind of like a hulky metal sound. Then that is kind of that 270 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,599 sort of like cross punk thing. But this song is still on a DBAT 271 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:10,039 right and it's again like they're the band who are bringing dbats to like this 272 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,640 you know, big kind of modern metal label, which I think is cool, 273 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,359 and I do think their trademarks are so recognizable at this stage it still 274 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,599 couldn't be anyone else. It's not just a stock swapping or out metal song. 275 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,359 It's very identifiable as a foul Bard song. So yeah, very much 276 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,839 looking forward to the news foul Bard. As I said before today, it's 277 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,279 it's a fucking avalanche of like album announcements and stuff. So if you are 278 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,319 putting your calendar together of what you are excited about for the you know, 279 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,519 the next few months of the year, there's a lot here that might make 280 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:40,720 it onto your your most anticipated list first if you've got Dying Fetus who I've 281 00:20:40,759 --> 00:20:44,200 also put some music out prior to the announcement of this album, but they 282 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,759 have announced that the album is called make Them beg for Death, which their 283 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,920 trend of just like the hardest album titles. Not not to be confused with 284 00:20:53,000 --> 00:21:00,000 like, you know, gory extreme album titles, but just like extremely blunt. 285 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,200 The last one we called wrong one to fuck with and this one is 286 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,960 make Them beg for Death. I love that in them. It's so them. 287 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:10,839 Yeah hard Lands, aren't they. Yeah? It just sounds like a 288 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,799 fist slamming you into concrete asking to be On September the eighth, they've also 289 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:18,599 announced a US tour which features the Acacia Strain, Despised Icon, Creeping Death, 290 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:22,039 and Tactosa. So if you are in the US and you fancy having 291 00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:27,680 your brain like bashed into a pulp, that's a pretty heavy night. That's 292 00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:33,039 the best night ever of your deathcore kids, didn't it? Absolutely so? 293 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,200 Make Them Beg for Death? Very very nice. They take quite a long 294 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,440 time between records, like it's six years between this and the previous one. 295 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,680 It was five years for those two. So it is actually even though they 296 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,200 kind of all they give you what you know you want, but it's always 297 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,480 like, oh yeah, dying feats record. And when I saw them May 298 00:21:48,519 --> 00:21:51,000 of this year, it reminded me. I was like, yeah, fuck, 299 00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:55,480 I love this band, so sign me up for that's elsewhere. Griddlink 300 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,839 are back. We They've got a new album called Coronet Jupiter, which is 301 00:21:57,839 --> 00:22:00,200 a September five think griddling. You may not know, but this is a 302 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,640 pretty big release for the kind of extreme end of what we do because it's 303 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:10,960 been nine years since they released what at the time was originally a farewell record. 304 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:17,400 Gridlink are one of the kind of the best most important bands of kind 305 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:22,519 of twenty first century grindcore in terms of doing kind of progressive and mind blowing 306 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,799 things in very very short packages. So when this came out with our people 307 00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:30,079 in the discord being like, do a grid Link album club, So maybe 308 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,720 we will at some point. I think it's a bit soon if we've just 309 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:36,640 done Genghistron, but eventually we might, you know, come round to stuff 310 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:41,279 like this. But Gridlink this track that they have released, it's like a 311 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,519 minute and fifteen seconds long and it's fucking venom in it. Oh, my 312 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:52,359 dad is insane. It's how long is it? Like a minute and a 313 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,559 half. It speeds by, but if you listen to the guitars, there's 314 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,559 so much going on. Yeah, that's the thing where bands like Gridlink and 315 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,480 you know, some of their predecessors like Discordant Access and stuff. It's like 316 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,079 in the middle, there's this weird, like almost jaunty, like the kind 317 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:11,240 of offsetting you riff part HM and the of the end. I think it's 318 00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:15,880 the last like twenty seconds, just like a start stoppy MATTHI riff over a 319 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:21,680 blast beat and it's sort of it's quite disorientating and it's really cool. This 320 00:23:21,799 --> 00:23:26,200 song is mental and I'm I'm actually really really into it. Yeah. Well, 321 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,279 with the Griddling album, I can't imagine it'll be longer than fucking twenty 322 00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:32,759 five minutes, and I'm sure there'll be a lot of very very interesting to 323 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:34,920 get your head album. So, you know, grindcore heads everywhere are rejoicing 324 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,079 over that one. Carn't Effects have got any album that's called Necromantium in the 325 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,400 increasing you know, necrofication of carn Effects. That's how I'm October the sixth, 326 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,319 Tesseract. I've got a new album called War of Being that's out September 327 00:23:48,319 --> 00:23:51,359 the fifteenth. Mark you're excited for a Tessaract. Oh hell yeah? Did 328 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,279 you hear the song they've released. I didn't bother really listening to it because 329 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:56,200 I don't like Tesseract. It's twelve minutes long, mate, it's great. 330 00:23:56,319 --> 00:24:00,160 I'm glad I didn't bother listening to it because I don't like Tesseract, but 331 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,599 everyone else have fun. Orbit Culture have a new album called Descent. That's 332 00:24:04,599 --> 00:24:07,920 that in August the eighteenth. I think this is the Will this be the 333 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,119 follow up to their twenty twenty album, I don't know if they put one 334 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:15,799 in between those. Orbit Culture have become particularly I suppose in the last or 335 00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:22,240 of year or so they've they've bubbled up even more as another of the most 336 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:29,880 kind of spoken about, championed kind of bands, sort of circling that kind 337 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,079 of you know, US metal circuit. When this band kind of broke through, 338 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,279 I guess with that twenty twenty album, I took a listen to it 339 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:42,599 and when this is not for me at all, I took umbridge with ways 340 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,880 the record sounded in the way I often do. But I think, particularly 341 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:51,720 with them, that kind of again American metal core sound, and there are 342 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,160 traits of their sound and performances and whatnot that I don't think work at all. 343 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,279 Mark you, as we were sort of suggested with the ghost in side 344 00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:06,920 song, you like dumb American metal more than I do. Perhaps Orbit Culture 345 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,640 you enjoyed that album, there's there's new stuff from them. Here I do 346 00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:18,240 the song. It's sort of built on this big, almost industrial stomp right 347 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,279 right. It sounds a bit like a German band who I don't really want 348 00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:25,480 to talk about right now. It's fine, you know. The riff is 349 00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:29,519 big, it's chunky. It sort of hits the spot the chorus he sounds 350 00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:33,319 Hetfield. You could have played me this until me it was a song off 351 00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:36,240 the last album that I forgot about, and they'd be like, yeah, 352 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,359 sure, it's not stuck with me really, but it hits the spot in 353 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,559 a way that these bands tend to do. Yeah, maybe we'll review this 354 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:48,200 album. Maybe we won't. I don't know. After what else is I 355 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,319 think August is a fairly busy month, so i'll say it here in case 356 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,319 we don't review it. When they came out and there was like, oh 357 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,000 yeah, the vocally sounds like Hetfield. To me, it sounds less like 358 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:02,920 James Hetfield and more like when people in the late nineties were doing very bad 359 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,799 Hetfield impressions. And the example I use is that. And it took again 360 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:08,400 because I didn't listen to this band very often because I don't like him. 361 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,799 But when the chorus came in and it's the first time I heard that voice 362 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:14,960 in a few years. It made me kind of recoil because when he does, 363 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,559 like all crashes down on the inside, like it's it's like the male 364 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:26,680 vocalist from Lacuna Coil doing a David Drayman is what it is. It's it's 365 00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:32,200 that level of kind of like weird, try hard, throaty hoarseness but doing 366 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:36,000 like Draymanism vocal lines. And I don't understand it at all. I don't. 367 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,640 I don't understand how that's the sound that people find appealing. It's so 368 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,200 it comes in and it like derails the song. Yeah, it's like a 369 00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:47,920 kid dressing up as his dad or something. Yeah. I don't want to 370 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,039 defend it too heavily, like I'm never going to listen to the song again. 371 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,559 Well, I'm gonna listen to the album. But I don't know. 372 00:26:55,759 --> 00:27:00,119 I'm not passionate about this band really, I just okay, I thought you 373 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,359 like the more than you do by the sounds of it. But they're getting 374 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,759 buzz and I'll be seeing them fairly soon because they're supporting that Trivium tour over 375 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:08,640 here. Oh yeah, when when I suspect they might get eaten alive, 376 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:15,599 I believe from within. But yeah, I just that chorus comes in and 377 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,160 that matter is like what are you doing? So? Why? Why? 378 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,359 Why are you making yourself sing like this? Yeah? It's really forced, 379 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,720 isn't it. Um? You know, I'm happy to sort of listen to 380 00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:30,839 this stuff in the background and I'm like, yes, that sounds nice and 381 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:36,279 chunky. I like nice and chunky metal. Um. But yeah, comparing 382 00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:40,359 them to the Blood from Lacronic Oil Jesus man. We'll see if it goes 383 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,759 any further, But I mean, as of yeah, I'm not convinced now. 384 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:47,359 The One Day Years have announced that they basically go through their entire fucking 385 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,559 catalog, haven't they an album at a time? Emperor's style apart from Emperor's 386 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:55,119 stopped after the second one. But the Wonder Years anounced that they are going 387 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,160 to be a tenth anniversary tour for I think the one that a lot of 388 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,480 people will been waiting for the Greatest Generation is of course ten years old this 389 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:03,839 year, and they are doing a UK tour over here. Whether they'll be 390 00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:10,400 playing that in full, I know that Sam will almost definitely be wanting to 391 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,319 go to that Mark would have The Greatest Generation in full for you, because 392 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,720 I know that you're like, The Wonder Years aren't a band that you really 393 00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,559 talk about very much, even though pop punk is like your thing. Would 394 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:26,119 you go for a night of the Greatest Generation? Ah? Maybe, I 395 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,279 don't know. If it was put in front of me, I'm sure i'd 396 00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:33,319 have a good time. I do like that record, but I don't I 397 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,200 don't like what The Wonder Years have sort of done afterwards. I think Super 398 00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:41,359 has become sort of a caricature of himself and I hate listening to it. 399 00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:48,400 This makes me sound like an old fucking like hot Take Merchant. The Upsides 400 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:52,759 is my album. I'm a pop punk guy. I think The Upsides is 401 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:56,880 great. Unfortunately, the Upside Anniversary was when COVID was happening, so they 402 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,680 only did a couple shows for it and then never all that. If they 403 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,759 did a tour of The Upsides, I'm making sure I'm there the Greatest Generation. 404 00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:08,920 It's it's a great album, don't get me wrong, but I'm not 405 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,440 clamoring for it particularly. Okay, well, a lot of people, I'm 406 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,480 sure very much will they So you can go and you know, enjoy that 407 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,440 to your heart's content and yell about how you're twenty six even though you're all 408 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:25,279 long past twenty six at this point, and fucking news, you know, 409 00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:27,200 hot off the presses. When we were doing this episode, Randy Blithe has 410 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,720 cut his dreadlocks off. What do you see this? No heaven was he 411 00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:37,559 gone there. He's just like almost shaved head, like his hair's all gone. 412 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,079 They were playing a show and he's come out and he's hairless. I 413 00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:45,480 am flabbergasted. That's fucking weird in it. He's had dreadlocks for approaching a 414 00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,039 decade. I guess because I despect like when I was getting into Lamb of 415 00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:52,759 Gods, um sort of you know, a turn of the twenty tens, 416 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:55,599 late nort he's going into the twenty tents. He had sort of longish hair, 417 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,519 hadn't fully developed into the dreads yet, but ever since kind of you 418 00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:00,799 know, post that, you know, I guess, I guess, sort 419 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,440 of the prison situation, everything, it's like dreadlocked Randy Blythe has been the 420 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,440 image. And I know this is very weird to be talking about a man's 421 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,319 hair cut like it's a big deal, but the kind of do you know 422 00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:11,359 what I mean? Where I say, like the silhouette of Randy Blithe is 423 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,640 like a big part of the Lamb of Good live show and kind of how 424 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,680 he bounds across the stage and everything, and those dreads they're not they're not 425 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:26,559 small. No, he has sort of like an unrealdy head. But when 426 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:27,599 I think of Lamb of Gods, when I got into Lamb of God, 427 00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:30,960 of sort of wrath era. So I picked her in with long black hair. 428 00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:33,319 Yeah, that's sort of like fringe and stuff. He had kind of 429 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,680 around actually awake and stuff like that. But like seeing him with almost no 430 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:40,119 hair, it's very weird. It's like it's like, you know, I 431 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,000 know people talk about white people with dreads, but there are two people that 432 00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:47,759 I can think of in rock for whom if they cut off their dreads, 433 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:55,319 white people like Randy byThe and Rob Zombie. Those are two dreaded guys right 434 00:30:55,319 --> 00:31:00,200 there, and one of them isn't anymore. That's a shame. Rob was 435 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:07,000 on the zone. He's the last remaining bastion of white guys in rock with 436 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,880 dreads. Keep championing it, Rob, even though I don't know, someone 437 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,039 might say otherwise, whatever, But yeah, that's shocking. News questions come 438 00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:18,880 from the last old focus group. You can go and join over there and 439 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,799 submit us when we came around it. Every week we're going to be kicked 440 00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:25,279 off by Paul Morton who asked a question that we get every now and then. 441 00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,000 But it's a it's an ever evolving thing, so let's do it. 442 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:32,400 What have been your favorite non TMM scope releases of the year, so basically 443 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,319 stuff from outside of the normal walls of rock and metal and an alternative. 444 00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:40,319 What have you been up to this year? Mark, I've actually not got 445 00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:44,920 as many as I usually do. Like last year there was tons. What 446 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,319 was someone from last year? If we say out the last twelve months. 447 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,279 I love the Runa Sawayama album. I like the Lizzle album a lot my 448 00:31:52,400 --> 00:32:01,880 answers from specifically this year the McFly hard rock album that existed, but of 449 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,559 course you've said that. Hey listen, those boys can write I hit and 450 00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:15,079 there's some catchy tunes on there. Um. Last night my brother made me 451 00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:19,960 listen to the Kim Petras album Okay Right, and it's just a really fun, 452 00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:23,039 upbeat, over the top pop album. She's got one song that was 453 00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:27,720 released as a single like several years ago, but on the album is Coconuts 454 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,359 on it. Yeah, it is. Coconuts is the catchiest pop song I've 455 00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:34,519 ever heard in my life. Again, it's like several years old at this 456 00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:37,839 point, so it's like well worn, but we were obsessed with it. 457 00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:40,519 Oh it's a manger. There's tons of bangers on their on the record. 458 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:45,559 Actually, I hate the Sam Smith song that she's on, so I mean, 459 00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:50,119 if there's more Coconuts than I'm in. There's a song on They're called 460 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,440 Castle in the Sky, which is a proper raver, massive pump and beat, 461 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,119 and that's the reason my brother showed it to me, because he dow 462 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,839 I'd love it as like a screw understand, it is a banger. Unfortunately, 463 00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:06,319 the Sam Smith is on there, but as a bonus track, so 464 00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,079 you can like pretend it's not there. Okay, Well, I mean if 465 00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:13,039 Coconuts is on the album, then it is by default the greatest pop album 466 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,319 of the year. Even the rest of it is dogshit. I've not had 467 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,319 much this year, really, and the one I came up with it, 468 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,880 I've not actually listened to it a huge deal at all, but I know 469 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,480 lots of people have, but I guess so far, the Jpeg Mafia Danny 470 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:30,960 brown Scaring the Hose record is like pretty fun for a hip hop record. 471 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,480 I haven't really loved anything Danny Brown has done since a Trocy exhibition quite to 472 00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:38,200 that degree, but there's some fun beats and stuff on there. The big 473 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,000 one is coming though, because I mean again still from the end of last 474 00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:45,839 years or last twelve months, Carlo A. Jepson's The Loneliest Time is one 475 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,160 that we still be having lots of fun listening to, which was a big 476 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,680 grower was at the time it was like slightly muted. There's a lot of 477 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,480 more kind of you know, sort of slightly subdued songs on it. But 478 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,119 now still so many of those songs are on all the time. But it's 479 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,799 really great. But you know the way she does those side ber chords for 480 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,759 all of her albums since the Motion, she comes up with the side B 481 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,839 of like bonus things. The one for this one is coming out in a 482 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:10,000 couple of weeks time, but instead of The Loneliest Time Side B like all 483 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,760 the other ones would be called, it's called the Loveliest Time. And if 484 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,000 that's not a good omen for what I'll be having, I don't know what 485 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:24,039 is. So I'm sure. The loveliest time is going to be my answer 486 00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:29,920 there. Yeah, there's a quite nice dream pop album by an artist called 487 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,440 Frankie Rose that came out. I've been listening to that a little bit, 488 00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:36,719 just nice. Who was that we were listening to? Like a hip hop 489 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,440 artist the other day? Who like just sounds like the Beastie Boys? What 490 00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:40,480 was that from? What was a release from this year? Have they got 491 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,320 one our joy Vance and Bray? Yeah, they've at least a couple of 492 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:51,679 singles this year. There EPs from last year. But they're always releasing songs. 493 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:54,360 If they have like an EP or something or an album out at any 494 00:34:54,400 --> 00:35:00,800 point, that would be a jolly. The best new are just but maybe 495 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,280 ever you know, yeah, I always, I always word twice for a 496 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,559 measure. What's for business and what's for pleasure? Go check them out if 497 00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:13,119 you don't know, they're a right laugh. David Gelon asks can you think 498 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:15,800 of a release that was much loved, adored and shared them release and got 499 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,480 a heap of buzz, but then for whatever reason just sank without a trace, 500 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,719 never to be really heard from again. This is a good question for 501 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,000 you, Mark, because all we do is seemingly dig up all things. 502 00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:30,880 I remember that, but I mean there are there are obviously, really the 503 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,119 obvious hype examples of like you know, memoirs of a Murderer or whatever, 504 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,719 or in the undergrounds on like Ancient Wisdom or whatever. Someone responded to this 505 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:45,199 question saying, even though they liked them, Black Peaks and Milk Teeth are 506 00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:47,760 things that fall onto this And I think that's harsh because their bands that just 507 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,360 broke up, and people still talk and remember about those, right, like, 508 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,199 particularly Black Peaks. The reason like we still go on and it's not 509 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,000 just like you know, asking the pokers, like, there's a fairly large 510 00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:04,239 community of people who still rave about Black Peaks, and it's how much of 511 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,760 a shame as they are around. And I think what you're mistaking here is 512 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:12,639 the idea of bands who didn't go on to fulfill the kind of results and 513 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,800 have come to the fruition that we hope for them, But those records they 514 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,440 may we still talk about. And I think by that same logic you could 515 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,679 say, like let live, right And if I was to say let live 516 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,320 for this question, people would fucking have my head. So things that are 517 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,800 more like something that was well liked at the time but no one actually does 518 00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:32,119 mention it. Now, Hey, Pern, do you remember Mutiny within? 519 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,760 This is why you were here for this question. Was that was that really 520 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:45,480 beloved at the time? Was that well acclaimed beloved by me? Actually? 521 00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:50,280 Yeah, to be fair, I think it. I think you got well 522 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,599 reviewed. But I think pre album they were really hyped. There was a 523 00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:58,280 lot of buzz around them, and then I think the lack of buzz came 524 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,559 when the album didn't deliver. Okay, um. I have a few like 525 00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:07,000 do you remember Japanese Voyeurs, No, I don't really. They were sort 526 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,760 of like pre Milk Teeth, grungy, sludgy, like alternative rock band. 527 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,360 I think they had the song called milk Teeth and that's where they got the 528 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,280 name from. But they were like the hot thing. They got their lead 529 00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:27,440 reviewing kerrang and stuff, and then just completely disappeared, right yeah, Because 530 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,400 again I was thinking about things where buzz didn't turn into things sticking around. 531 00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:36,559 And there's a couple of examples that I know you will criticize me for because 532 00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:38,400 I know you love them. But like, no one ever seems to talk 533 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:44,800 about Zolkes anymore. No one seems to talk about Hawkeyes anymore, and that 534 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:50,440 was a name you'd hear a lot in twenty twelve. I didn't want the 535 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,239 same then because I love them. Yeah, I think one of the ones 536 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,320 where maybe it's what the band did afterwards kind of ruined it. But the 537 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,079 first Wilson album, oh yeah, I think that was the one that came 538 00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:05,199 out in twenty thirteen. It was like the full blast fockery. Yeah, 539 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,119 that was one where you couldn't like people would really trying to make Wilson take 540 00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:12,239 off then, and then five years later they were doing essentially like smash Mouth 541 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,880 songs and I think we're a ten part ten years past people caring about Wilson, 542 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,679 And that was one that like I was like, oh yeah, people 543 00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:23,280 don't talk about full blast fuckery anymore too. They there was a band called 544 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:29,000 Dangerous from Australia. They were signed to Epitaph and they got on tour with 545 00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,559 the Young Guns and staff and they got good reviews. I really liked that 546 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:37,719 record. It's sort of like a hive Z pronxy thing. But they did 547 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,719 this tour of the Young Guns and then immediately fell off the face of the 548 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,880 earth, right, Yeah, I suppose I was thinking more about it again, 549 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,880 so some of some of those UK ones that were kind of inescapable for 550 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,800 a while and they perpetually beat everywhere. But then I feel like we're a 551 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,079 few years pass people remembering them like Asteroid Boys and the one hundred, We're 552 00:38:55,079 --> 00:39:02,239 a rowery a lot, and then going beyond just like you know, I 553 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,639 remember this band that didn't actually do anything. No, I'm trying to think 554 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:10,039 of some bigger examples, and I think this is one that's both to do 555 00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:14,679 with the kind of general fate of the band and some of what maybe surround 556 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,440 on some of the members as well. But I was thinking about things that 557 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,920 at the time really did feel like moments like not just I got a bit 558 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,760 of buzz whatever they didn't deliver on, but like a band like properly stepping 559 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,800 up to kind of become the face of something. And it's amazing how a 560 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,079 decade has put restoring force by of mice and men so far in the rear 561 00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:36,400 view mirror, where that record really felt like it was like, oh, 562 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,719 yeah, they're one of our big metal bands now, right, And it's 563 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:44,280 like it couldn't feel further away. Now. God, yeah, that's a 564 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:49,000 great show. I listened to that again recently I think it's still really good, 565 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,280 but you're right, it's I like the record, but no one talks 566 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,320 about it anymore. No, No, they don't. Or of mice and 567 00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:59,920 men in general. Really same with like Miss May I. Miss May I 568 00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:05,840 at heart was like a big you probably weren't paying attention, but at heart 569 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,199 felt like I never liked Miss May. I think the difference with someone of 570 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,440 Restoring Force is that felt like almost like them. Like I was like, 571 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,800 oh, maybe they can go on and be like a bring me the Horizon 572 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,280 or someone like that was like a really big kind of breakthrough. That was 573 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,400 when they were playing Brixton places like that, and then it kind of fell 574 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,840 apart. But and then I was also thinking about kind of you know, 575 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:27,440 hype and acclaim around like older band's output. And I know that some people 576 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,599 would say fearin oculum here. I think that's harsh and I think there's a 577 00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:32,760 much better answer than that, involving some of their members. Eat the Elephant. 578 00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:37,000 There's a record that like I didn't go with it at all all the 579 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,360 time, really, but no one talks about it now, right, Like 580 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,719 when was the last time you saw Eat the Elephant? Hype? Jesus I 581 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:49,119 forgot that even came back. There were there were bands that I similarly felt 582 00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:51,400 it like I was looking over what we reviewed and stuff, and apparently in 583 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,519 twenty twenty on this podcast, I will have reviewed a Pearl Jam record. 584 00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:00,039 I've I've forgot reviewed and listened to that album it was but six and Karrang's 585 00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:04,079 Album of the Year list, But I really I couldn't tell you a thing 586 00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:07,639 Jesus about that. I guess Similarly, the one for me is always the 587 00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:09,599 first Smashing Pumpkins come back album as well. It's like, oh they're black, 588 00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:14,519 Oh they're back, and then I guess similarly, I went looking at 589 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,960 album of the yearlists and stuff from places like Karrang and Metal Hammer, and 590 00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:22,960 I swear like Boston Manner have like multiple ones of these where every time that 591 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,119 band released something, there's a bunch of reviews telling you it's like a landmark, 592 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,039 generation defining rock record, and then you never hear it again, and 593 00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:32,920 the next one comes out and the cycle continues. Yeah, Boston Manner, 594 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,400 every time there's an album, the story is they're serious, nerve guys, 595 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,239 this is the one. They're going to be the big band. Now, 596 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:45,159 they're not kids anymore. For every fucking album. Again, I don't think 597 00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:49,159 there's any personal slight or anyone in particular. I just I just every time 598 00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:53,360 the Boston man like I forget which ones are like the supposed kind of big 599 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,159 ones, you know, because it does feel like as a real rich repeat 600 00:41:55,159 --> 00:42:00,320 girl on there. And then remember when people like swimmers, remember when that 601 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,639 was a a thing. Is that Billy Johnstrong's Yeah, they read at record 602 00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:08,320 with Berkeley's on Fire that we got around quite and that's a name that I, 603 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:13,360 again have not thought about in quite some time. Let's move on before 604 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,519 we just get stuck in these kind of holes. James Bentley, before I 605 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:22,280 go mind empress, Yeah, very much so. James Bentley asks, what's 606 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,639 your favorite trademark slash repeated trick a band does? For example, the four 607 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,079 four drum beats at the end of hymn songs, the enshakari stand like statues, 608 00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:34,440 all the high pitched choral ah bring me the Horizon used on loads of 609 00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:37,880 songs. Probably doesn't sound like that. I just say two of those, 610 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,800 like we did a whole hymn special, And I don't think I ever picked 611 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:45,000 up on a particular pattern about ending on four four drum beats and then also 612 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,119 this bring me the horizon choir sound. I don't know if there's a particular 613 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,679 you know, obviously there's the heavy usage of keyboards and stuff, but I've 614 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,239 I'm not quite exactly sure which beeause of sound you're referring to here, But 615 00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,119 this is one where you go, like, at what point does something become 616 00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:06,400 like a musical trademark like this as opposed to just like a bit of the 617 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,440 sound, right like uh, And so that was where my mind went. 618 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:15,400 Two things like Gajira pick scrapes or h you know, early Creator roto tom 619 00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:20,400 Fills or the slip stomp, which is when I was the kind of dad, 620 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,440 dad dad, kind of fourth fourth thing. Um, you quite rightfully 621 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:30,480 said the Mortician slaughtered beat very similarly. Um, but trademarks, and I 622 00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:34,639 guess this goes musically, this goes maybe sort of vocal tidbits whatever. Um, 623 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,880 it's quite a wide interpretation here. Yeah, I fell down a similar 624 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:45,440 sort of like void of well what separates from just a band sounding like that? 625 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,239 Yeah, But I've actually managed to come up with a few that I 626 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:54,079 really like. Machine Head have two the machine Head pick slide, and then 627 00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:00,360 Rob Flynn sort of rising into a scream. That's going You didn't even say. 628 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,800 The one that came to mind me was yeah, which is just the 629 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:08,199 pinch harmonics. Yeah, oh yeah, but whatever. Yeah, So they 630 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,239 got a few. They were a good band room. I love in Children 631 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:17,519 of Bold them songs when the solo section starts with Alexei les solong and then 632 00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:22,159 there'll be a keyboard solo and then the guitar and the keyboard solo together. 633 00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:28,679 That's so sick. Yeah. Obviously vocally in terms of like ticks and stuff 634 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,119 we we got all day here, like Tom g Warriors. Oh and you 635 00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:37,719 know, hey, hey, obviously peeking them out in type of negative who 636 00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:43,159 who who? Which bands rip off and do brilliant sort of landing halfway between 637 00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:45,360 those in the present day you have the unto others who and you know, 638 00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:51,000 the howling like wolf as well. Max Cavalari has got his eye, a 639 00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:54,079 bath has got his like um and maybe my maybe my favorite of all of 640 00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:59,679 these is just any time in a Dark Throne song when Fenriz goes nocturnal cold 641 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:05,639 tone and hands over to his partner in crime misfits Woes. I guess if 642 00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:07,480 you want to count them, And then obviously that in turn goes afi and 643 00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:10,400 creeper woes. Any band doing a misfits woe. I mean, Danzig is 644 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,880 full of them, just as an as a person, right, But any 645 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,159 times he does kind of a kind of a downturn of a note like marble, 646 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,960 those kind of things. I always like that ship anytime Ozzie goes all 647 00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:28,599 right now, Yeah, it's a good one one that it's less of a 648 00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:31,280 sort of like a like a drink when you hear it meme a bit like 649 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,599 those. But I always love and Slayer songs when Tom ray a bit like 650 00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:38,559 what you've said about the machine Head rising scream, When Tom a ray a 651 00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:43,280 kind of rises into a bit of a higher like registered before a big break. 652 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,000 So for example, before you see the light, you must die into 653 00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:52,039 everything, and that goes all the way through to you know, repentless. 654 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,079 We're killing ourselves a little more every day. I put the babble in a 655 00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:59,320 poor blood, so none of the glass can affect that kind of ship. 656 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,639 And then I guess you know musical elements that are very much trademarks. I 657 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,639 suppose the kind of strangle cleans you're getting cataly decapitation songs because no one else 658 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:16,239 does them, or at least can quite replicate them. That's one or any 659 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,480 time. And now on the thrack sample someone saying like go kill yourself before 660 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,079 they go into a riff. That's always nice. I like that. I 661 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:29,280 love in when taking back Sunday songs and with Adam and John sort of both 662 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,440 singing different vocal lines. I say, singing both sort of shouting until and 663 00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:37,079 building and building until the song ends, two different vocal lines. I always 664 00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:40,119 think that's a really cool trick. There you go, that's good stuff. 665 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,440 The next thing up from us this coming weekend is the two of us were 666 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,719 joined by Sam, are going to be doing this year's summer album Roulette. 667 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,639 We did it last year with the three of us and it was a lot 668 00:46:49,639 --> 00:46:52,920 of fun. That was the episode that gave us great conversations about Alcest's sunniest 669 00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:59,079 record and Trapped under Ice and why slowly we wroted by Obituary is the most 670 00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:01,960 accurate summer of all time. Actually this time across the board, it's maybe 671 00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:06,000 less heavy than that, but it is a really great batch. Apart from 672 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,840 one of Sam's picks, maybe, but generally it's looking like it is going 673 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,519 to be a hoot and I reckon. There's a couple of blinder picks in 674 00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:16,320 there that people didn't see coming. M I'm just gonna say, there's a 675 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,320 great album in there by a band who get don't get taken seriously. And 676 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,920 if you don't take this album seriously, I'm not taking you seriously. Yeah, 677 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,599 there's albums that we maybe won't get to talk about otherwise. It's always 678 00:47:29,639 --> 00:47:32,320 fun when the Roulette throws up that stuff that's different to like an album club 679 00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:36,360 or whatever. I'm looking forward to banging all of those out. I also 680 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,800 put together an episode, another episode of Vinyl Tap. It's been a little 681 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,800 while since we did one of those. People we've all been a kind of 682 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,800 about so how much, but I managed to hop on. So if you 683 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,239 want to hear some more chat about about records and get some more music wrecks 684 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,000 out of that, that will be up to day along with this episode. 685 00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,280 If you go over to the That's Something on YouTube channel. When Elliott is 686 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,880 back from his little European ventures, we will steam onto some other stuff. 687 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,320 The best way to support this podcast is by having a look over at the 688 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,760 Atmeill pay Trion. It's massively appreciated. It keeps us going releases for today, 689 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,760 it's kind of a bit of a slower week. There's a few things 690 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,920 too highlight first, I mean, maybe the most noteworthy of them is the 691 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,119 fact that Voyager are releasing their album Fearless in Love. If you are sort 692 00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,599 of why where's that named Voyager? This was Australia's entry in the Eurovision Song 693 00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:20,000 Costs this year, and this is the album that features, to be fair, 694 00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:24,000 the absolute banger of a song that they put forward that oh oh oh, 695 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,559 that is a great tune. So that's out now. We've also got 696 00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:32,639 Evil have followed up there the first of their old Drake fronted records with another 697 00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:37,360 one called The Unknown. The last record was more than that kind of you 698 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:42,400 know sepulture. Sepulture is kind of extreme thrash. They seem to be kind 699 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,039 of, you know, throwing themselves out in different directions every time consciously. 700 00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:49,760 So this record has much more of a kind of a four four groovy pace 701 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,599 to it. So if that is something that you like in your thrash, 702 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,880 maybe the new Evil will do it for you. This is interesting. Cavalleira 703 00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,000 Conspiracy, which is of course Matt Cavalier and Eagle Cavalira's band they today are 704 00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:04,079 releasing someone they have announced for a little while, which is they have done 705 00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:10,159 re recorded versions of the earliest Sepultura releases, the Bestial Devastation EP and the 706 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:15,079 Morbid Visions album, which are two recordings that are so primal that they are 707 00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:20,119 essentially first wave black metal, right Like, there are people in the Sepultura 708 00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:22,360 fandom who will never go and listen to those, because then there are people 709 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,239 who like KOs Ad more than they will ever go and listen to Sarcophago. 710 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:30,559 I am someone who very much in values that early Sepretura material, and part 711 00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:36,119 of me goes the idea of rerecording that so it doesn't sound out of tune 712 00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:42,119 and shit is almost like antithetical to what the records are. You're going to 713 00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:45,360 check out rerecorded like first wave black metal era Sepultura, so that it sounds 714 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,719 a bit more current, I think. So, I don't know, it 715 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,440 depends on you know, how it is whether I continue to go back to 716 00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:59,000 it. But you're right, there is sort of sort of the charm of 717 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,039 these young guys who just love rocking out, who just love heavy metal, 718 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:09,320 being maniacs barely tuned their instruments. That has a certain energy to it that 719 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,599 you will lose, but hey, I'm interested to hear these new ones. 720 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,400 Yeah. I mean the flip side is if this is what it manages to 721 00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:21,239 get some people who maybe will just just never listen to anything that sounds like 722 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,000 more bivisions, right, because more bivisions, it's an ask to listen to 723 00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:27,639 something that sounds like that. If this gets people to go, oh, 724 00:50:27,679 --> 00:50:30,039 actually there's some really cool rips and songs and stuff on this, then I 725 00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:32,360 think that's cool. So maybe one of the more interestings what rerecord projects we've 726 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,840 had in recent memory, So that's out. If you like your symphonic metal, 727 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,800 you know, very euro there's a band called Elaine who have got a 728 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,719 record called We Shall Remain. In alternative rock from Run for Cover Records, 729 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,000 there as a band called Temple of Angels with a record called Endless Pursuit. 730 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:52,559 Caligram UK underground kind of establishment at this point, they've got a record out 731 00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:57,559 called Position Momentum. Also in your heavier hardcore, there's a man called Chamber 732 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,440 with a record called I Love to Kill For end Rain. The Way of 733 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:06,199 All Flesh is decay, coming very dangerously close to a gagira injunction. There 734 00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:07,679 aren't they, but this is I think it's on Relapse Records. This one. 735 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,840 It's got members of Picked, Draya and stuff sort of playing heavy, 736 00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:15,760 aggressive stuff there. And for a little bit of kind of blackened material, 737 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,079 there's a man called Detis with a record called Irreversible. And now we are 738 00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:22,360 out, so cheers very much for listening. As said, we will have 739 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,119 the summer album Roulette coming over this weekend, for that's no matter, patrons. 740 00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:29,960 We also have our insidious tam Does Horror that we just did before that 741 00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:31,920 as well, talking about the new movie and the original classic and all that 742 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,760 good stuff. Here next week we will be talking about eight of the coolest 743 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,159 smaller releases that are kicking about at the moment, So that is going to 744 00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:40,199 be a good one, so be there for that. See you soon.