1 00:00:39,039 --> 00:01:32,159 Tonight's guest is dog Men researcher based out of Kentucky, and he was featured 2 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:37,159 on episodes three fifty four and four fifty six. Since episode four fifty six 3 00:01:37,239 --> 00:01:41,719 Yer last April, he's taken more pictures of dog men and had other experiences. 4 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,480 When I found out about that, I asked him if you'd come back 5 00:01:44,519 --> 00:01:47,879 on the show and update this on what he's been up to. Luckily, 6 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,519 he said yes, So here we are, of course, I'm talking about 7 00:01:51,519 --> 00:01:56,640 Paul Chaffin from the Kentucky dog Men Project. Paul, thanks so much for 8 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,560 coming back. Good to be here, Vic, Well, that's greed is 9 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:04,840 always to have you. I appreciate your time. Paul. You're featured on 10 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,080 episodes three fifty four and four fifty six, actually episode four fifty six here 11 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:14,879 this past April. What have you been up to you since then? I 12 00:02:15,039 --> 00:02:19,159 do this, I guess research, you can call it any chance I get. 13 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,000 I'm always hiking, I'm always in the woods. I'd rather be doing 14 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:28,039 that than be president. For anyone who's never listened to those episodes, in 15 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,759 the dictionary, next to the phrase go getter, you're gonna find a picture 16 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,439 of Paul, this guy gets after it. But for any of the listeners 17 00:02:35,439 --> 00:02:40,240 who missed those shows, please give them a brief bio on yourself. Well, 18 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,280 I had a encounter when I was fifteen years old. Was back in 19 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,560 nineteen ninety seven. First of all, I'm from Pike County, eastern Kentucky. 20 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,319 I've been in the mining industry most of my life. I've done this 21 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,560 about any kind of job you can think of, and construction. I'm stealing 22 00:02:58,719 --> 00:03:02,360 heavy equipment, you know, even now. So I had an encounter when 23 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:07,360 I was fifteen, and it changed my life. I'm back and forth whether 24 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,360 it was for the best or for the worst, but at the time it 25 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:15,120 was for the worst because it was pretty wild. Isn't it funny how one 26 00:03:15,159 --> 00:03:20,919 thing can change your life the way that encounter did for you. Yeah, 27 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,879 it is because there ain't been probably hasn't been two hours of my life went 28 00:03:25,879 --> 00:03:30,199 by where I haven't thought about it at least once. So it's lives in 29 00:03:30,199 --> 00:03:34,639 my head for sure. I don't know if it was just the encounter that 30 00:03:34,719 --> 00:03:38,120 was so traumatic, were the just the knowledge of knowing that something like that's 31 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:42,879 out there, you know, that was really hard to go ask him deal 32 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:46,000 with. Yeah, after having that one experience, your life would never be 33 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,199 the same. I believe it. I'll bet you do think about them that 34 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,199 often. I'm wondering, though, was that first encounter the most traumatic experience 35 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,479 you've had with dog men? And if not, please tell us all about 36 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,520 the experience. I mean, yeah, that one was pretty traumatic, just 37 00:04:02,719 --> 00:04:08,599 because I had feel asleep. Yeah, I knew I wasn't gonna be able 38 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:10,919 to get home in time, so I knew it was gonna get dark because 39 00:04:10,919 --> 00:04:15,360 I had feel asleep up there while deer hunting, and when I got up, 40 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,879 nothing was on my mind. Really. I took you know, fifteen 41 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:21,720 twenty steps and I don't know how they do it, but it just fear. 42 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,160 And then immediately after I felt that dear like I noticed everything look dead 43 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:32,680 silent. So yeah, it was a reality shaking experience, for sure. 44 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:38,800 It was. It was life altering, you know. And ever since I 45 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,079 come off the hill that day, my life never been the same. So 46 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:46,439 and you know, I've been bluff charged, I've been growled at on video 47 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,560 like I've got. I mean, I just really put my life on the 48 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,480 line quite a few times doing this, and I continue to do it. 49 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:56,720 You know, I go into these areas because I could go along. I'll 50 00:04:56,759 --> 00:05:00,279 go along, you know in the Appalachian Mountains when I go Dick Jensening, 51 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:05,920 I mean, I go, so I'll stay gone all day. And this 52 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,519 last time I was in, he was just dead silent, and I had 53 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,079 only experienced that one other time. So yeah, I recorded it was dead 54 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,560 silent, and I don't know what causes I don't know. Maybe we're the 55 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,319 predator that sometimes causes it. I don't know, but yeah, it was 56 00:05:24,439 --> 00:05:29,800 very eerie. But yeah, I've had a few encounters Vic just I don't 57 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,199 know how to explain having an encounter was one of these things, and then 58 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:38,759 it's it definitely a primal. There is no other fear that I can think 59 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,800 of that you get, you know, other than dealing with these creatures when 60 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,199 we're around. One thing I understand is, if you do have a fear 61 00:05:46,199 --> 00:05:48,279 of these guys, why do you continue to head back into the woods and 62 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:55,120 try to seek them out. Well, just like you had Kyle on, 63 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,720 just like he said, you know, if you're gonna do the things that 64 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,319 you say you love to do, you know, you're just gonna deal with 65 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:03,160 the fact there's things out there that you can't explain. So that's just a 66 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,959 way I live. I'm not gonna quit going in the woods. And I 67 00:06:06,079 --> 00:06:09,560 do a lot of research and stuff and I go out, but I also 68 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,720 go to places where I don't do research. I just go hiking with my 69 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,560 kids. And you know, I try not to make it my every day 70 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:21,720 like all day. So yeah, I try to I try to do other 71 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:26,680 things, but yeah, it's a big part of my life. It definitely 72 00:06:26,759 --> 00:06:30,000 is. And I know there's a lot of people out there too. It's 73 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,959 the same as me, Like, yeah, it just does something to you. 74 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,600 I guess, Oh, I'm sure it does. Yeah, I don't 75 00:06:35,639 --> 00:06:41,480 doubt that at all. And you just admitted to being fearful of them. 76 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,639 But I think it's a given you don't frighten easily. The fact that you 77 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,199 keep on going back and back and back looking for them, that's all the 78 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,160 proof that we need to know that you don't frighten easily. From what I 79 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,560 understand, Paul, your views have changed quite a bit since you came on 80 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,279 the show for the first time. Please expand on that for us. Well, 81 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,399 I had went down to this boat ramp with my girlfriend and my kids 82 00:07:06,439 --> 00:07:10,879 because people are gonnarn swim, you know, and we're swing and stuff swing 83 00:07:10,879 --> 00:07:14,399 on. Yeah, it's a good place to swim. So we went down 84 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:17,839 there and I just had a weird feeling out there because I had walked down 85 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:20,920 the beast a little bit and I had found some really big talk tracks. 86 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:25,160 You know, of course I would. I walked down the beach a little 87 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,240 bit fund a big dog track, so you know it naturally. I just 88 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,040 pulled my phone out and recorded a couple of minutes of video there, and 89 00:07:33,079 --> 00:07:38,680 when I watched it back, I started seeing orbs. And when I say 90 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,199 orbs, I'm like, people think, oh, I was probably a bug 91 00:07:41,319 --> 00:07:44,839 or something. But these were lighting the leaves up as they went by. 92 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:48,120 You know. It was very strange. And I do believe that if anybody 93 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,800 does any amount of research like I'm doing and reviewing footage and going out and 94 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:56,360 anybody that does this, you're gonna start to see the same things I'm talking 95 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,199 about in the footage, and you're gonna come to the same conclusions. Now, 96 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,879 whether you ignore it or choose to go with it, like I just 97 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,279 went with the evidence. I'm not gonna It may sound crazy, you know, 98 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:11,319 I think it does too. I know I'm not unaware of how wild 99 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:16,439 some of the sounds, but it's absolutely the truth these things. There's other 100 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:20,399 I don't like if you wanna caught cloaking, realms, dimensions, whatever you 101 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:24,240 wanna call it. But yeah, these things are able to interact and see 102 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:28,240 us, but we can't see them and interact with them, you know. 103 00:08:28,279 --> 00:08:31,600 And every time I get a picture or a video of one of these things, 104 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,440 I don't care how far away it is, it's always staring right at 105 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,240 it. And then I've got a lot of things on camera that are not 106 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,519 dogling too, so you know, it's really clear faces. So yeah, 107 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,919 there's there's definitely another side to it. But you know, at the same 108 00:08:45,919 --> 00:08:50,440 time, I also believe that they're flesh and blood that can't do all that 109 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,879 stuff. I think the national parts with them did come into the conclusion that 110 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:58,559 they're not just animals out there doing their thing trying to make a living. 111 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:03,960 Make you more fearful of them or decrease that fear, well, I believe 112 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,480 vic that I'll give you a warning, you know, and if you don't 113 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:13,080 pay attention, you'll be getting talked about on someone else's podcast. So I 114 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:18,480 believe they'll give you a warning. I've pushed the envelope with a For instance, 115 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:20,159 when I won't crowded at me. You know, the guy that was 116 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,519 with me, it scared him really bad, a lot worse than it than 117 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,320 me. But to me, I was just shocked, like in my mind, 118 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,919 and my love stood up and waved at me because when it growled, 119 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,480 it scared him. To me, it shocked me because it gave away its 120 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:39,200 position and pretty much verified that, ay, we're here back up. So 121 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,159 you know, it was pretty exciting in that manner. But no, I 122 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:48,080 didn't. I don't frighten easy. No, I became I wouldn't say comfortable, 123 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,440 but at peace with death. Like I worked in the cold months for 124 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,159 a while, so I'm able to push shot back. In my mind. 125 00:09:54,159 --> 00:09:56,879 I'm not worried about it. If it happens, it happens is my time, 126 00:09:56,919 --> 00:10:01,039 I'll go, yeah, this is not But you can do to delive 127 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:07,240 that. So that's a good point. Interacting with these guys as many times 128 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:11,080 as you have. How intelligent do you think they are? I think they 129 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:16,480 are extremely intelligent. I think they're diverse. I don't think they're just dumb 130 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,200 creatures, you know. I think they have an intelligence and understand what people 131 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,360 are going out. They know what it is, they know probably what an 132 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,399 ape is, they know what all this stuff is. And you just love 133 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,480 kitch one in a bad mood, you know. So I think they're probably 134 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:33,759 just like us. They don't all look the same, that's for sure. 135 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:37,639 Some of them don't look too smart, I'll tell you that. Yeah, 136 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,639 it does make you wonder exactly how smart they are. If you've had a 137 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,559 dog me an encounter would like to speak with me about it, whether I'm 138 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,799 private or on the show, please go to dog Meet Encounters dot com and 139 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,519 submit a report. If you've had a bigfoot sighting and would like to be 140 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,360 a guest on one of my two bigfoot shows, please go to my Bigfoot 141 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,960 Sighting dot com. Since you came on in April all and told us about 142 00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:05,159 your experiences and what she'd been up to to that point, you've had more 143 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:11,200 experiences, please tell us about those. Now. Well, we uh went 144 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,679 down here too the river, and I was another researcher who came up and 145 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:20,799 went down and we went out. We were out there about thirty forty five 146 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:22,600 minutes, and we went to go to the because it's a big parking lot, 147 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:28,240 you know, So we went to go to the other side, and 148 00:11:28,279 --> 00:11:30,480 when we got over, there was a truck parked there and there was a 149 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,600 I didn't see it at first when he started talking to us, but I 150 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,639 walked over to the truck and he had a game more uniform he was in, 151 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:41,480 like a Silverado or something. They didn't even look like it looked like 152 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:45,600 a regular truck. Yeah, he was sitting there and he hollered at us. 153 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,080 So we walked over there, and he said we couldn't be back in 154 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,159 there, that it was private land, which I knew he was lyne It's 155 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,360 not private land, it was public land. So I didn't challenge him on 156 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,879 it or anything. I was just like, oh, yeah, well, 157 00:11:58,879 --> 00:12:01,360 I said sometime him, I was like, there's some crazy things going on 158 00:12:01,399 --> 00:12:05,679 out here, he said, or I said there's some crazy things here. 159 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:07,720 He said, you're right, he said there is some crazy things here. 160 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,080 I mean, just pretty much verified, you know, agreeing with me. 161 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,840 I was like. But then I even was like, nah, I mean, 162 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,639 I don't think you inter so I'm talking about he's Noah, yeah I 163 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,360 do. But yeah, after we you know, said those a few little 164 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:24,000 words, I just walked off back towards my car. Since we got there, 165 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:26,159 another game warding truck pulled in. This was the real deal. These 166 00:12:26,159 --> 00:12:30,960 guys were in a truck. They looked like military guys, you know, 167 00:12:31,039 --> 00:12:35,039 but they were wearing uniforms, game ward uniforms. They just backed in and 168 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,919 said over their sunglasses, gonna. Stared at me for probably two or three 169 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,799 minutes before I got in my car and we decided to leave it. But 170 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:45,200 wise we was leaving, I turned a look and they were still staring at 171 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,080 me. So, I don't know what was going on in here, but 172 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,480 I've never seen him before, and I've been around here fifteen years. I've 173 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,399 never seen him before, and I've never seen him since. So yeah, 174 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:56,039 it was definitely something strange going on or something happened in or I don't know 175 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,320 what it was, because people will go down there in camp and it I 176 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,759 don't know how they do it. I just don't know how the average person 177 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,000 that don't know anything about this can go down and camp and not have me 178 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:13,799 think that had happened to him. But I mean, there's just little things 179 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,399 like that that happen all the time. We just some of the feelings that 180 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:22,600 we get when we're out there, the screams we'll hear screams and howls that 181 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:28,480 are weird and they sound close, and I just can't in my mind picture 182 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,879 that being a dog man screaming, you know, because it sounds it don't 183 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:35,960 sound like a dog. So I don't know. I guess bigfoot or whatever 184 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,600 else is out there, I don't know. I can't tell. It just 185 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,360 be speculations for me. But I just know that a lot of these things 186 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,480 that I'm seeing in these pictures and that I'm sharing have human faces or human 187 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:54,679 ish looking faces. So it's just my phone from one. I believe that 188 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,879 these phones are able to see things that our eyes aren't meant to see or 189 00:13:58,919 --> 00:14:03,200 can't see. So that's the only way I can describe VIC. I don't 190 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,720 know. We've just had so many different small encounters here and there that, 191 00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:11,080 you know, like when I took my daughter out, for instance, even 192 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,879 my daughter will stop and she's like, I just don't feel good about this 193 00:14:13,919 --> 00:14:16,200 place, you know. I was like, what do you mean. She's 194 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:16,720 like, I don't know, I don't know what it is. She said, 195 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,360 I don't like this place. My dad and I never said that she 196 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:26,080 loves one out, you know. So I started the words because writing for 197 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,519 she said that we found a set of headphones, like the wire ones for 198 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:33,360 an iPhone that plug into your phone, laying after on a flat Rocket's kind 199 00:14:33,399 --> 00:14:35,320 of like a little creep baby, and they were just laying there. I 200 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,159 was like, that's odd, she said, at least on how I attached 201 00:14:39,159 --> 00:14:43,159 nobody's head. So yeah, I mean it, sometimes it gets really scary 202 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:46,519 out there. Just you hear strange birds that you've never heard before. Like, 203 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,919 I've never heard some of these birds sound off. The average person would 204 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:52,559 never think anything of it, but I heard it, and I was like, 205 00:14:52,879 --> 00:14:56,159 you know, I'm forty one. Here's Oh, I've never heard a 206 00:14:56,159 --> 00:14:58,320 bird like that. And I've spent a lot of hours and all kinds of 207 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,440 wooded areas. Yeah, I bet you do. Your Some streams sounds out 208 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,279 there. Yeah, some of them I can't even describe or tell you, 209 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:11,559 Like, I've never what you would even imagine in your mind that it is 210 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,759 making that sound, Like all I can picture it would just have to be 211 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,440 big foot or something, you know, Yeah, it just might be a 212 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,200 sasquatch, her a dog man. Considering the fact your daughter likes to go 213 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,600 out researching with you the way she does, what are you gonna do if 214 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:31,440 some day, when she gets older she decides to become a dog Men researcher 215 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,519 herself. Well, I try not to take her and do research. I'll 216 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:39,360 take her hiking and stuff. But she does know about the encounter I had, 217 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,720 and she does know. You know, I do make girl aware that 218 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,879 my teacher the same things my dad taught me, as far as you know, 219 00:15:45,919 --> 00:15:48,279 being in the woods, never go without a gun. I just teach 220 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,159 her the same things. So hopefully if she does, she'll have the intelligence, 221 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:56,600 you know, the just being educated on the woods and stuff and what 222 00:15:56,639 --> 00:16:00,639 to do and what not to do. Well, as you know, apples 223 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:03,600 don't fall far from the tree, so considering you and how you are, 224 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,759 I'm sure she's going to do just fine. If you'd like to be able 225 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:11,360 to listen to the show without ads and have full access to bonus content, 226 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:17,080 that's an option. To find out how, please go to dog Men Encounters 227 00:16:17,159 --> 00:16:23,320 dot com Forward Slash podcast. On episodes three fifty four and four fifty six, 228 00:16:23,639 --> 00:16:26,799 he shared some of the pictures you've taken of dog men over the years, 229 00:16:26,879 --> 00:16:32,000 but since that episode here in April, you've taken even more pictures of 230 00:16:32,039 --> 00:16:34,279 them. Why do you think it is you have such good luck catching them 231 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:40,559 on film when most researchers get skunked time after time. I think it's just 232 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,480 having patience, and I think it's knowing how to review the footage that you 233 00:16:45,559 --> 00:16:48,840 get while you're out there, what to do while you're out there when I 234 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:52,639 go out, like a lot of times, while I'm out there, yeah, 235 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:55,679 I'm doing research, I'm looking for stuff, tracks and all that, 236 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,960 but I'll make it a point to spend twenty thirty minutes an hour or whatever 237 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,839 just doing normal things like you know, with me and my daughter walking and 238 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,880 stuff, talking about I'm recording at the same time behind me. And it's 239 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,440 just having the patience to sit down, like I said, without having an 240 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,440 iPhone where you can go through the video, you know, frame by frame 241 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:19,240 slower and the quality you can set. It's four K and stuff, so 242 00:17:19,279 --> 00:17:23,559 the quality is a lot better. So yeah, you can. You'll start 243 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,359 noticing things if you will set and take time and be patient and look at 244 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:32,000 the footage. And I'm not talking about this flesh and blood I'm talking about 245 00:17:32,039 --> 00:17:37,039 You'll just start to see I don't know, like it'll be undeniable to you. 246 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:40,839 You you know what I'm saying it'll be it'll change you. Whether you 247 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,240 tell anybody about it or not, you know it'll it'll change you for sure. 248 00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:48,759 It'll it'll make you start looking at everything different, start looking for looking 249 00:17:48,759 --> 00:17:52,599 at you know, researching other areas to find out things for you. Since 250 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,839 it comes naturally to you, it probably does seem simple. But if most 251 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,839 people try to go out there and get the results that you get, I 252 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,119 think they'd feel miserably. There's just something to the way you do things that 253 00:18:04,519 --> 00:18:11,519 bring so much success. I'm impressed. I'm just crazy. People think I'm 254 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:12,920 crazy. I got you know, I go into these areas. Most people 255 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:18,200 won't go you know, like the people that went with me, four or 256 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,480 five pers win or at least three of them won't go back. Now, 257 00:18:21,599 --> 00:18:26,599 I believe it taking people into really spooky places like that, it's gonna tend 258 00:18:26,599 --> 00:18:30,079 to have that effect on them. Well, like I said, just a 259 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,440 moment ago, you've taken more picks since you came on last time. Paul, 260 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:36,920 Please tell us what we're looking at as I show those pictures one by 261 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,400 one for the listeners. All right now, this is a picture that I 262 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:47,000 got. I would say about a week and a half ago, I can't 263 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,400 remember the name of the area down here. We've only been through it a 264 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,039 couple of times. But this is the same area that my daughter was saying 265 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:59,000 that she was uneasy in. So yeah, but anyway, this here's a 266 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,519 lot. I'm a really clear picture. It's here lately. It's probably one 267 00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:06,440 of the better ones that I've got. But it's uh, I've got a 268 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,240 red circle around it, and you can see its head. It's got its 269 00:19:08,279 --> 00:19:14,799 head up over some brush and it's just laying there staring at us are sitting 270 00:19:14,839 --> 00:19:21,319 there, and yeah, it's it's a really good picture. Now it's the 271 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:26,160 next one. Like I said, some of them are some of them are 272 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,519 really strange. They're not necessarily dog man I or you know, I don't 273 00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:33,000 know, maybe they are. I don't know what they are. But I'm 274 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,680 no longer a name on delivery driver. I was for a few months there, 275 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,359 and I would get to go into some areas and naturally, why I'm 276 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,240 on lunch and stuff, you know, me, I'm out there looking around 277 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,119 in the woods and stuff. So you know, I got some video on 278 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,359 some pictures. But this one here I got one day while I was out 279 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,960 on my route, and it's a face. I don't know how to explain 280 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,839 it, maybe like a clown. It's to me looks evil, but you'll 281 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,839 see it's got a white circle on it. You know, it's kind of 282 00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:03,559 in the center of the screen, but you'll see it. You want, 283 00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:08,960 no problem. This next one. I've had a lot of people tell me 284 00:20:10,039 --> 00:20:14,160 that this is probably the best picture that I've ever gotten or that they've ever 285 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,720 seen. So this one here is the same. I was on my route 286 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,359 out in the middle of nowhere, you know, delivering packages, and every 287 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,160 time I get an uneasy feeling or something happens, I will record the area, 288 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,400 the tree line or whatever. And I got this one. It's standing 289 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,480 up. You can see its shoulders, arms, hands, you can see 290 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,680 its head, it's looking right at me. It's ears. Yeah, it's 291 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,200 a really good picture. It's in black and white. That one is, 292 00:20:38,519 --> 00:20:45,880 and I've got it also in the regular pictures. So the next one I 293 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:52,160 have is it's up in a tree. I don't know. It's like I 294 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,000 would say, probably ten fifteen feet up in a tree, and all you 295 00:20:56,039 --> 00:21:00,440 can see is it's head sticking out on eyes, my snout, I mean, 296 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,839 I hair on top of its head. Everything. Yeah, it's looking 297 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:10,079 down at us or me, of course, but to the left of it, 298 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,000 there's other ones that I've got one here that it's from a distance, 299 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,039 but you can still see it really good. It's poking its head up through 300 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:22,880 some miles brush. It stands out like a source on you bill to see 301 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,640 it real good too. And then I've got one from the same area that 302 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:33,079 I was talking about earlier when my daughter had gotten scared. This one is 303 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:40,119 another face big foot. I'm gonna guess is what it looks like. But 304 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:44,000 you know, when you see this one, it'll be a pretty self explained 305 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,319 authority. You know, it's got a black arrow over its head. That 306 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,480 one picture that you mentioned were it's a face. It doesn't have a muzzle. 307 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,519 It's just a freaky looking fees. If that doesn't make the hearing your 308 00:21:56,599 --> 00:22:03,200 buttst end up looking at that, I don't know what will for sure. 309 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,920 Yeah it did, I swear it that. Thankfully I didn't see that while 310 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,119 I was there. Now, there is a lot of times that I've learned 311 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,559 that even though I don't think we can see what's going on with our human 312 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:18,799 eyes, I think the camera lens can pick it up. So if you 313 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:22,319 look at your phone while you're recording it, sometimes you will catch some of 314 00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:27,920 these things that you normally wouldn't, So I mean, thankfully I didn't see 315 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:34,079 that one because I didn't review the footage until later. So yeah, I'm 316 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,599 glad. There's a lot of things I'm glad about when it comes to this. 317 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:44,720 And it's strange because I learned everything that I've pinted the conclusion who has 318 00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:51,480 been through reviewing footage, So I just keep learning things figuring things out. 319 00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:56,920 So I mean, it's working. So I continue to go out and I've 320 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,359 got a few other people here that will go out with me, so we 321 00:23:00,519 --> 00:23:03,880 roll out there like a team and we have a good time doing it. 322 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:07,759 But yeah, this next picture that I'm gonna show you is from a video 323 00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:11,480 that my girlfriend had taken while we were on a new hiking trail. And 324 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:15,799 that's something else. When I go into an area for the first time, 325 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,920 I've never been there, Oh you'll find tracks, You'll get really good footage 326 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,119 and pictures and evidence. But then next time you go into the area, 327 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,640 there won't be anything. Like if I cast a track or anything there, 328 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,920 they won't be any more tracks. I think they get wise to why I'm 329 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,200 there. And what I'm doing, so the evidence kind of goes away. 330 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,119 But I've noticed that when I go into a new area, you know, 331 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,640 I'll see it all. So yeah, this next pictures over her shoulder, 332 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:48,359 and it is a I don't know, it's a dog man, I guess, 333 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:55,200 and it's got big black eyes and a snout and it's because there's a 334 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,559 field behind us, really large, probably two or three hundred acres field is 335 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:03,720 but the grass I think is about five foot tall. But this is down 336 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:08,960 low about halfway because she's squatted down. So yeah, you'll be able to 337 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:17,079 see it really good too. This one big is I mean, I guess 338 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,319 there's room for debate on all of them, but this one is the day 339 00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:26,640 that my daughter said she was scared. Okay, as I took this video, 340 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,160 she was telling me that she was scared and stuff. So I started 341 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:37,519 recording, and what I found in the videos probably the scariest thing that I've 342 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:42,440 personally gotten to me, just because of the almost feeling that was in the 343 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:48,519 area at the time. And but it's a highball. You can see the 344 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:52,319 forehead, you can see, but it's there's two trees, a skinny one 345 00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:56,039 in a big one. But there's probably only a two inch gap in between 346 00:24:56,079 --> 00:25:02,440 them, but about ten feet in the air behind those trees you can see 347 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,039 something looking through you can see the eyeball the four had the hairline you'll see. 348 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,640 But it's just a scary picture to me. I don't really care to 349 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:17,880 look at it. Let's see. Yeah, I don't think people are ready 350 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,720 this. But this is the only one that I've gotten that's on two legs. 351 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,519 This is this is my personal favorite picture that I've got. This is 352 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,400 why I'm out there doing what i'm doing. I'm naming the four, but 353 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,079 I've got this as two pictures, but it's split and it's one picture, 354 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,240 but it's two. It's the same picture, but on one side I just 355 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:41,319 kind of outlined it, you know. On the other side, you know, 356 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,200 you can see the original picture. But as you were talking earlier about 357 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,039 the intelligence, I mean this one right and this picture is holding a stick 358 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,319 in its right hand. It's about sixty yards from it if it's a little 359 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,200 ways away, but it's being over like a kangaroo. You know, it's 360 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,000 been over at its waist, you know, standing up, it's been over. 361 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,559 So it's holding the stick and it's right hand and it's got another stick 362 00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:07,640 in its left hand. It's kind of coming up toward its face, and 363 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,799 you can see it in the video. When the wind blows and the sticks 364 00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:15,920 around my face moved, it starts shaking that branch up and down, so 365 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:21,519 you can tell that it's the camouflage. That's something else. It's charted a 366 00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:25,720 really good picture to me. You can see it's toes, the haunches, 367 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:29,519 you can see its knee and thigh. I mean, you can go. 368 00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:37,799 It's just a big, strong preacher. I believe that'll almost do it. 369 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,200 Vic. I've said it before and I'll see it again. I just don't 370 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,559 know how you muster the courage to put yourself in the presence of these things 371 00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:51,640 time after time getting the results you do. Though, Paul, do you 372 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,279 have any concerns about your research putting your safety at risk? I mean, 373 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:03,160 yeah, of course, I'll belind if I said it didn't cross my mind, 374 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,319 you know, you know every time I'm out there, So yeah, 375 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:12,279 I mean it's a I have definitely questioned what am I doing, you know, 376 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,839 because there's not a lot of people that, for whatever reason, I 377 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:21,319 want to go out there and do this, So yeah, a lot of 378 00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:23,519 times I end up having to do it alone, which ain't a good idea. 379 00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:27,559 But I do go armed all the time. Whether they'll do any good 380 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:33,079 or not, I don't know, but I've got it, so I do. 381 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,519 I worry about it sometimes, but it's not going to stop me. 382 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,519 So I don't know, but I guess I'm more probably more likely to die 383 00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:45,000 in a car accident on the way to the woods than I am in the 384 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,759 woods, is the way I see it. It's probably accurate. Have you 385 00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:53,079 noticed a difference in the results you get when you take people out with you 386 00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:59,880 compared to when you go alone. Oh? Absolutely, especially if like Chris, 387 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,400 if she goes with me, she'll get some really good footage two or 388 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,880 three days ago buy and I'm like, have you ever looked at that footage? 389 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,480 She's like I looked at it a little bit, and you know, 390 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:11,400 she was like, well, you seen it to me, so she'll see 391 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,799 it over me and I'm looking at like, oh my god, I'm sitting 392 00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:18,559 here, sitting on gold you know, not even I don't even realize it, 393 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,920 but yeah, some of the things that come out of the video, 394 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:27,680 she gets pretty extraordinary. You know. I've got pictures on here of a 395 00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:34,799 sphere. You can see a sphere like it's distorted. It stands out really 396 00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:40,480 good from the background, and it's just a perfectly round sphere about the size 397 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:45,279 of a beach ball. And what it is, I have no idea. 398 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,160 Some people say they you can see things in it. I don't know, 399 00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:52,359 but it's probably one of the stranger pictures that I've ever gotten. I don't 400 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:56,559 know what it is. A portal, it's just a sphere. It sure 401 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,000 sounds to me like she might have a nat for finding these things as well. 402 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,720 She believes, you know, she knows what I wouldn't be doing what 403 00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:10,920 I'm doing it if it was fake. I'm putting a lot of every in 404 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:14,720 it's fake, but yeah, she knows, and she knows it's a big 405 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,519 part of my life too. So I don't know. I guess you just 406 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,200 have to have the experience to understand the toll. I guess, And I 407 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:29,119 guess maybe not everybody is driven for answers like I am too. So there's 408 00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:32,960 just some things I can't let it slide. And I feel like they come 409 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,920 and look in our windows and come around our homes and stuff. So I'm 410 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,799 gonna go out, you know, I guess figured if we look in their 411 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:45,640 windows, you know, well, in some cases they don't seem to respond 412 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,559 as well to that is we do. Although when we look in our windows, 413 00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:55,279 it's not that much we can do for retribution, But when the shoes 414 00:29:55,319 --> 00:30:02,319 on the other foot, they most definitely can. Have you heard of the 415 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,279 dicing glasses that was used in the Vietnam War? No, no, I 416 00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:10,039 haven't. Well, there was a pair of glasses that they gave the soldiers. 417 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,519 They were called dicing glasses. They were for night vision, but instead 418 00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:15,880 of being the greenish having a greenishue too as we know it now, they 419 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,400 had a red hue to it. Okay, well, they had the helicopter. 420 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,319 The guys that set with the gun out the door. I can't think 421 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,920 they just slipped my mind. What they are, the doorgunner or whatever, 422 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,119 they were responsible for wearing these goggles. And you know, they would be 423 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,200 a flowtilla of helicopters. And the guy said that for no reason, the 424 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:41,160 guy in the back just started emptying out his fifty cow you know, the 425 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,200 other helicopters was swaying out of the way and stuff, and he went back 426 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,720 there, you know, because at that time there was a I guess probably 427 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,119 a really bad drug epidemic and and the armed forces being the war and stuff, 428 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,839 and he went back there thinking that's what it was, but he realized 429 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,519 that wasn't the case. The guy was just pouring the sweat. He said 430 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:06,039 that he was seeing demons or monsters or whatever they were, and they were 431 00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:08,799 flying, they had wings and just looked medieval, you know, and they 432 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:12,519 were looking at each other and pointing at him and talking like, you know, 433 00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:15,640 they could tell that he could see them, and he was shooting at 434 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,079 him and stuff, and I guess it was doing no good. So I 435 00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:22,799 guess eventually the captain, the guy that was telling the story, because this 436 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,559 happened a bunch to a bunch of people and it ruined their lives. They 437 00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:29,680 went crazy after having them glasses on them. But he had said before all 438 00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:33,319 that happened shortly after the first time, like he had put the glasses on 439 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:36,519 the sea, and he said, as they were flying over the canopy, 440 00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:38,960 the tree canopy that was fogging stuff. When he put them glasses on, 441 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,480 he said, he could see these things coming off the top of the trees 442 00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:45,920 and just shaking. You could see the like the mist and fog with their 443 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,799 wings and stuff. He said, it was just real. They were there, 444 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,160 but when you pulled them glasses off, the fog hadn't even been disturbed. 445 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,880 So yeah, they ended up changing the filter or whatever it is that 446 00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:01,160 was on them from red or which I'm not sure you know what they really 447 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:05,039 used, but they changed it to what we know now the colors. You 448 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:08,319 know they used to watch that vision. Seeing something like that sure wood change 449 00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:14,000 you for life. Wow. Does researcher ever feel like work to you, 450 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,480 Paul? Or is it always fun? Just being in the woods is fun 451 00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:21,839 to me? Like I said, I just I can lead all my problems 452 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,960 outside of the tree line. You know, when I go in there, 453 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:28,400 I'm I feel more home there than I do at the house. Sometimes. 454 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,319 I don't know, I just always have I felt like that. I just 455 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,799 like being outdoors. No, I totally understand. Yeah, bad day in 456 00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:40,920 the woods beats a day at work any day. Oh, absolutely definitely. 457 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,680 What would you say is the worst thing that comes along with doing what you 458 00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:52,960 do? Though? I mean, like I said before, I do put 459 00:32:52,000 --> 00:33:00,880 myself in some you know, my worst case scenario is something south like it 460 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,720 has happened, like me getting bluff charged that time. But you ask, 461 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,079 you know earlier, what that was one that shaped the way I do things. 462 00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:10,960 And because I got a really good look at myself and that bluff charge 463 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,839 happened. You know, you go through your life thinking, you know what's 464 00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:16,720 gonna happen. But like you said, you know, everybody got that plane 465 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:22,200 until you get punched. So yeah, I got a good look at myself 466 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,920 out there, and that was scary on its own, you know, like 467 00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:29,599 I painted when I didn't think I would. So yeah, and I'm scared 468 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,079 of something like that happened. And why I've got my daughter with me or 469 00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:35,640 something, because yeah, I don't want it to ruin her experience out in 470 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,039 the woods. Yeah, that would be horrible. Hope that never happens. 471 00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:44,559 Yeah, I try to avoid that. Yeah. We can only do so 472 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,440 much. And at the same time, you have to live life and she 473 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,160 has to live hers. I mean, it would be a shame if she 474 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,519 couldn't enjoy the woods the way that she does with you. So yeah, 475 00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:57,319 I hope you never stop. No, she loved outdoors just like I did. 476 00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:00,960 Well that's great. Yeah, that's how it should be. If any 477 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,559 other witnesses out there in Kentucky where you're based, there, Paul want to 478 00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:08,719 contact you and sure they're encounters with you. How can they do that? 479 00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:15,679 I've got a group on Facebook Kentucky Document Project, and I've also got a 480 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,400 YouTube channel, the Kentucky Document Project who you can look them up, and 481 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,360 I've got quite a few videos on the YouTube. And the group, I 482 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:29,400 forget, it's got like sixteen seventeen hundred members. Maybe I can't remember now, 483 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,559 but yeah, it's a really good group. You know, there's not 484 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:35,480 all that stuff that goes on any other groups. There ain't nobody laughing and 485 00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:39,679 nobody. There ain't no laughing emojis and the arguing and all that stuff. 486 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,719 There is none of that. Like I said before, if I had proved 487 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,199 just anybody into the group, I'd probably have over ten thousand members. But 488 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,679 you know, if they can't answer the questions, that's just been my motto. 489 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,719 If they can't take time to answer three questions, you know, they're 490 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,360 not gonna take time to really look at any pictures. They're just gonna want 491 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,480 to see a pictures of werewolves or something quality of a quantity. Right, 492 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,079 what's about time for us to get out of here. But before we do, 493 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,000 do you have any clothes and comments you'd like to share. I'll try 494 00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:15,559 to explain this, like, I know how strange it sounds, but anybody 495 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:21,360 can do it. When I record footage, I started to notice and when 496 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,440 I go frame by frame, when I would start painting the camera around, 497 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:29,360 the picture would get blurry. But when it did all of a sudden, 498 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,559 these things would stand out. These whatever they are, would stand out. 499 00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:37,320 Their face would stand out in some of them and be really clear when everything 500 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,119 else in the picture is blurry. And then when the picture comes back into 501 00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:45,719 focus, their face is blurry and the pictures clear. So as strange as 502 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,920 that sounds, that is the absolute I mean, anybody can do this. 503 00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:52,800 If you're willing to go into the area and do the research, you will 504 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,000 get to evidence. If you put into work, you will get it. 505 00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:59,280 And I'm willing to share everything I got. I'm willing to help anybody needs 506 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,960 help. Whatever I can do. I like spreading a wearing of it. 507 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,400 Well, it's obvious you definitely know what you're talking about. You definitely get 508 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,599 the results time after time. So who better to get that advice from. 509 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:15,039 But having said that, I want to thank you so much for coming on 510 00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:19,599 and updating us on what's been going on with you, Paul, I really 511 00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,079 appreciate it. Yes, servy, it's been a pleasure talking to you, 512 00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:27,119 buddy. Well, it's been great talking with you as well. Thanks again 513 00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,559 so much of your time and half a great night.