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This is I on the Ball with
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Radio Station. Hey, good afternoon,

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everybody. Welcome to YE on the
Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jakin's os. It's just two old men and nobody

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else today. We'll see how many
times we can screw it up. If

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you just want to call it,
please do make the show more interesting.

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Five two, four, one,
six, seventy four forty that'd be great.

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A lot of things not going on
this summer. Yeah, we're looking,

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you know, a little thin for
breaking news today. So I don't

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know what we're gonna do. Yeah, yeah, I was listening to a

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podcast now with Kilbert Arenas and uh
and JJ Reddick have to watch. Do

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you remember Gilbert Obs. Yeah,
the crazy fool that he was here,

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you know, kind of the stiff. This is a big stages. He

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was definitely all of that early stages
here, kind of said a lot of

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stuff and Luke was kind of cringe
when you'd say stuff. And Bruce and

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I would quote him, and and
he'd get in trouble for talking to us.

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He just continues, He just continues. He's got a good show obviously.

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Well, you know, he's an
interesting guy regardless of I mean,

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regardless of what he's interesting for.
He's an interesting guy, interesting guy with

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an interesting story, big background,
him and his father growing up um and

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then his life after becoming the star, and and and the word is yeah,

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he's at least on the list he's
that would be very interesting if he

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were to come here, we'd see
more Gilbert less Richard, get him and

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Richard have this funny exchange of rivalries. Yeah, yea, so it is

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what it is. Okay, maybe
we'll talk more about that later. So

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what do we have going on today? We have a pretty good show.

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Yeah, fun show, right,
a fun show because, uh, you

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know, Brian Jefferies is always fun. We'll talk to him about how uh

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you know, just you know,
we've been talking about what grade would you

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give you of a sports this year? I think we both kind of settled

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on a bus. You know,
Baseball They're okay. Softball was way below

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expectations. Even though football took a
big step forward, it still went five

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and seven, right, Um,
you know, basketball and something that,

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but you know, tennis did Tennis
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Um uh. The signature sub basketball
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women's and men's basketball were good.
So we said, I think we settled

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on the ball a couple of times
two. But we'll see what Brian said.

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I don't know if he'll give him
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I was just gonna say it might
it might be a bias grade if he

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does. But I'll be interested to
hear. You know, you know that,

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you know, because obviously he does
and he does football, then he

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does basketball, and he does baseball, um, you know, and then

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he's obviously you know, he's in
McHale, so I've probably got a good

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sense of what he thinks it was
like for them this year. Yeah.

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Yeah. And then an interesting guy
that many people don't know because he's a

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bus behind the scenes guy for ages, Wendell Neil. He's been the equipment

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manager or involved in the equipment operation
UH at Arizona for over thirty years.

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He's got forty years total in the
business. He was at Washington State before

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he came here, but he's been
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years. He's retiring. Um,
we just thought he didn't have some great

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stories to tell, and uh in
invite him to the show. He said,

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he's looking forward to coming and telling
some of his stories. So hopefully

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he's got some some good ones lined
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a four fifteen, Brian at three
fifteen. But when you know, when

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you talk about an equipment guy,
you know they you know, they see,

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they see something that not even a
lot of athletes see, right,

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you know, the track guys don't
see. You know, what it is

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to get equipment for the football team
and whatnot. But all the things that

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they got to do, stuff they
got to go on the road. He's

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more recently been tied very much to
the bat, to the baseball team.

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Uh. In fact, in announcing
his retirement on Twitter, he said,

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I was waiting until the baseball scene
baseball season was over to announce this.

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It's over, saw him announcing.
So but the guy that you know,

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when we're talking thirty two years,
we're talking a guy who's been there since

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uh, you know, early nineties. So he seemed a lot of the

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eighties, eighties forty years. No, he did forty years total, okay,

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with thirty two at Arizona. Oh
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two at Arizona. I was here
before him. You were here. Oh

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that's that's what I saw bio on
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doing before? He was at Washington
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years before that. Then he was
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he was was he with Living Good? And Levin Goold brought him? We'll

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ask him, yeah, I will
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h okay, but you know,
guy again, when when you're when you're

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the equipment guy, you see and
hear a lot of things. There's a

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lot that other doctor Porter who was
there forever retired Wendell now, um,

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you know they can probably write their
own books. You guys are aging man.

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Guys are you're telling me every time
you were it's said to get old.

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It's okay though, we're moving well, you know, yeah, I

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mean I'm still having fun, right
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course, what's having fun? What's
a point? Exactly? What's the point?

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What's the point? Okay again,
if you'd like to call five two

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four one, seventy four forty we'd
love to hear from you. Um.

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Uh, we just kind of are
gonna win get as usual we always do.

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Yeah, yeah, that's funny.
We gotta I got to ask that

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on Justin's show. Oh what did
you go down yesterday morning? He said?

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He said, you know, you
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surprising. He says, just so, what you know what's on tap for

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your show this afternoon? And I
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and he and Ali obviously you know, they laughed quite a bit. I

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said, I suggested. I said, you know, we talked about you

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know, news of the day,
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So we're we're you know, we're
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you know, we win get baby. Unless we have the people in advance,

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like a day or so, we
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I don't know, you just asked, yeah, uh yeah, preparation.

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What's up? People are so most
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we kinda we just you know,
we just do what we do.

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So sometimes you can tell well yeah, and sometimes you can, but you

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know, look at look at our
show today. I mean this is gonna

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be a fun show. Yeah,
it will be a lot of stories.

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You know. Uh, you know, well all of our shows I think

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this week if we I know,
I know, we pulled one, you

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know, pulled one out of our
hat on Monday when doctor Robert Oh yeah,

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yeah that was good. You know, we got we've been trying to

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get a show set up us on
Monday morning and say you can do it

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today and we're like, okay,
do it, you know, and then

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we then Greg Hanson was available to
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about this stuff. So um,
you know, it's it's it's uh,

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you know, we we do what
we do. Uh. We talked about

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stuff coming up, you know,
talking about today. It's like you know,

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we're hanging out at a bar with
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talking about what's going on today.
It is so US Open. I've been

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watching US Open all day today.
Um, I know if you saw,

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but uh uh two golfers uh um
Ricky Fowler and uh and Xander Shoftly both

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shot sixty two today. That's a
US Open record. Yeah. Ricky Fowler,

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well because as he hasn't done much
in forever. Um he's he started

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to play well again again. Recently
he's kind of been shown up a little

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bit. Um Xander Shotley, you
know, he's been pretty good for a

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while. But they both went on
shot sixty two and looks I turned on

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early this morning. They were just
getting started and some of the shots I

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saw earlier this golf course, I
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Impossible. That's a pretty one that
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at La country Club, Los Andres
country Club. It's the first time it's

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ever been played there. It's his
start golf course. They don't they've been

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very private. You don't even see
this. You know, there's no tournaments

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there, no PGA tournaments, PGA
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been at the Riviera country Club.
The US Open has never been here.

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It's been a very very very private
club. Um So while they got you

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know, they the somebody talked somebody
into hosting the US Open, either the

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US Open talk them it hosted or
they said, okay, would like the

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US Open and they jumped on it. But anyways, early in the day,

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I'm looking at this golf course.
It looks like an impossible golf course.

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The shots are impossible, The greens
are impossible. The rough you could

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lose a small child in the roof
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You see a guy hit a ball
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it's just gone. And so guys
are you know, they're hidding out

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a rough and hidding it, you
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you can barely advance the ball out
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And then the greens poor. Justin
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yards out, hits a shot into
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it lips the hole. Okay,
so it does a little circle around

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the hole and spins all the way
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hole because it goes down this slope. He should have it almost went in

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the hole, and instead he was
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there. It's like I thought,
you know, that that's the course that

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I would as much as I would
like to play courses like that, I

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wouldst everyone to play. I mean, if you're not in the fairway,

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you are hose big time. And
then and then so you know, we're

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commenting that text exchange and text messes
with people, and then you see you

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guys go and break the break the
US Open record, of course, which

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shows that, look, keep it
in the grass, keep it in the

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fairway. You can score and if
you're very very good, like a pro,

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and if you even Ricky Fower I
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Oh man. That's why amazing me
about golf, because like I said,

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you could go on these runs.
Yeah I call them runs, not momentum,

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but they go on these runs and
then we might never hear from him

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the rest of you. Well,
I was thinking about that on the way

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and thing, well, you know
who we talked about what we said.

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He said, you could go out
and shoot you know, you know seventy

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two or as a me, you
know, I mean, you go out

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to shoot you know whatever. In
the next day're gonna go shoot one hundred

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and five. Yeah, you'll interesting
to see, Ah, you gout like

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Rickie Foller, who's been so on
and off. Is he gonna go out

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shoot seventy eight twoe or is he
gonna shoot another low round? But the

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thing is they going on these three
four days, and that's all you really

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need go on these great road four
day, four days, four days,

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and then goodbye, goodbye. These
two guys are five strokes ahead of everybody

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else. Scottie Cheffer, the world
number one, shoots the three three under

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par and everybody thought he shot a
great round. And these two guys,

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go put up, go put up
sixty two. I joked on on Twitter,

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I posted the last guy to do
sixty two at the US Open tin

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cop in a movie that was That
was the score in the movie where you

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know he set the he set the
US Open record and then got into contention

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and the rest of the movie.
You know, we won't spoil it for

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you, but you know that is
the record is the sixty two. And

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uh, these two guys shot that. It's crazy cool, It's fine.

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I love the you know that,
I love the majors. Sure, US

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Open Masters, whatever. And so
it's the US Open week this week,

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you know, Okay, Well,
that's all Football's done done, even hockey's

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done. He's got baseball season.
The Diamondbacks are in first place. So

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the world is all twisted right now
and messed up and off kilter because multiple

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Orioles are playing well too. They're
you're right, the world is a miss.

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So the last night watching the Dodger
game, and the Dodger game is

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getting ready to come on. I
looked at the odds. They were minus

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one and a half and that was
minus one fifteen and I one and a

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half, you know at the White
Sox. Yeah, so so I'm like,

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I thought about then I didn't,
And then then the game started Clay

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Crushaw's pitching. I still thought about
doing it, still thought about doing Now

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I'll just fall behind my two breaths. I saw that six, like the

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sixth and into the sixthe so I
go look at the odds again and minus

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one and a half is plus one
eighty and I thought, you know,

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I think that I still gonna win
this. But then I got busy doing

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something. I ain't even dinner or
whatever, so I didn't put it down.

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Then Dodge about four two, and
I'm kicking myself for not putting down.

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Putting it down. None of my
stas come back and beat a five

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four. The bed would have lost. I laid off, which was a

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good thing, talking about that stressed
thing that you're talking about. Oh no,

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I'm cool, I'm cool. I'm
cool, just a little yeah,

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right, see, just in a
day, just in a moment, he

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just went through high and high and
low. It was a low than a

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high, then a low. I
could believe they lost it when they were

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a five four two. I was
so mad at myself. I saw putting

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that down, I saw him pitching, and then I'm not I'm not dutch

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Mancil. I saw your guy Bowers
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uh they he's being accused by somebody
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um the third person, third or
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Um, I'll save that one for
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know, looking forward to getting these
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if we got time, you know, get a little into a little sum

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of Brian's uh you know, he's
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as long as me, so thirty
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six eighty five around there, because
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probably know who the who the guy
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that story a few times because he
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came in and and he well,
he pipped him. I remember, I

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remember when when Arizona got Ray Scott
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was the guy who would do the
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back in those John fascentda Voice of
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you know, in the sixties.
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Scott's gonna come to Arizona. It
was cool. How well he remember getting

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no longer around he was. He
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imagine. Yeah, well, no
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in all these years. Yeah,
okay, let's take the break now so

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He's Jacon's House. Now on the
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You know him as the voice of
the Wildcats. Brian, how are you,

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gentlemen? Couldn't be better? Great
to have some time off, but

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I know we'll continue. So it's
a never ending task. But it's a

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good time of the year. That's
good. You go from like September one

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still now. But look at those
frequent fire miles. Well you know there's

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a few. Yeah, you gotta
you gotta count your blessings there on your

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bonuses. It's the the hotel points
had up a lot quicker than anything else.

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And so my wife and I were
talking about this at dinner last night,

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said we thought, hey, we
can get three or four nights free

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here. Let's let's go someplace really
now ice and you know, blow those

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points in one stop. Yeah.
Well, uh, you just finished baseball

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season. As we're talking off fair
that, you know, you have to

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plan for Arizona to possibly be possibly
be in the College World Series. So

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you're not you don't have any plans
to get out of here like right now.

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But um, let's you first,
let's talk a little bit about the

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baseball season. It was kind of
an up and down thing, but they

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snuck into the tournament. Didn't look
so good there, But overall, what

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do you think was the field there
at the end of the season with the

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baseball team? Well, I think
you put the best there. Day was

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up and down, and that's kind
of the way the season went. They

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had the one really down period.
They lost those two straight conference games,

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and that hurt the most. It's
hard to recover from something like that,

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and all quite honestly, they never
did because they finished twelve and eighteen in

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the league. They pick up some
extra wins. In the factful tournament,

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they got an extra win, and
the non confidence can stays you, but

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still finished under five hundred league play, and that's that's hard to overcome.

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They were able to do it.
They one thing that I don't think it's

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been maybe publicized enough as the fact
that Arizona played one of the toughest schedules

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in the country this year, and
I think when the selection committee took a

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look at their resume, that was
one of the tipping factors that got them

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into the tournament. I mean,
they were playing really good ball there at

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the end of the season, not
only the regular season, but got to

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the championship game, the tactical tournament. But the fact that they played a

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top twenty five schedule this year.
That's every committee in every sport. That's

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something they're always looking for teams that
will challenge themselves and so I think that

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factor was another reason Arizona made postseason
play. And like you said, things

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didn't work out so well in Fayetteville, and I wish that they could have

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gone farther because I really liked that
team. They had some veteran guys that

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you know are going to be missed
greatly come next season. So I feel

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for them some great careers there,
but all in all, to get into

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the tournament, To get into a
regional like that, I think is the

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first goal every team has for them
to make it to that spot, in

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particular after that that tough middle stretch
of the season, I think is certainly

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to be commended. He talked about
some of the players Jay and I rave

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about Romero, Kiko, Chase Davis. While the swings that those guys have

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and just the ability that he have, well, I mean, both guys

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had twenty one home runs and Kiko
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single season, and you know,
he was just a great addition. And

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you kind of had a feeling when
the season started that Chase was going to

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have the year that he had because
we've seen his talent here over the last

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couple of years and so great young
man, and I think he's got a

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great chance to be an outstanding pro
baseball player. Kiko, like I said,

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great story coming in making an immediate
impact, starting every game at first

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base and setting the record and hitting
home runs and just doing everything they needed.

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It was part of an offense that
let the tax twelve in almost every

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category you could think of. So
those two guys were huge. Uh,

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you know, I think Nick McClary, I still think it is one of

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the best shortstops in the country.
Yeah, you know, County Bold coming

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back for another year, it was
a big help. Mason White was you

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know, the freshman story of the
year, and you can go on from

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there. They you know, they
didn't have as many arms as I think,

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or as the consistency in the bullpen
maybe that they needed ultimately, but

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you know that's something they continue to
build up. What you're watching Chip work

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now. You know he's got two
seasons under his belt now with the program.

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But what's your sense of, you
know, how he has settled in,

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you know, recognizing he's a college
coach now, not a not a

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not a pro coach, you know, settling into the differences, understanding the

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game. Uh, that kind of
thing. I mean, what's your sense

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of how he's evolving, let's say, as a college baseball coach versus a

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pro manager. Yeah, you know, first things first, I think you

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know, baseball's baseball. It'd be
pro or college or high school or whatever.

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I mean, it's the same fundamentals
and and that's what you know.

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Chip is so good at coaching,
and you just saw the improvement of the

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team made in particular the last two
years on the defensive end. I think

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that's another thing that really stood out, something that they had not been the

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program had not been strong at for
a while, and he really has turned

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that area around. And so when
you look at two of the three and

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I'm talking offense, defense, and
pitching, and you've got a good a

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good defense, you're two thirds of
the way there. So you know,

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I think last season, his first
year, Chip admitted that it was a

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learning experience for him coming back to
college ball, and yeah, there's a

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lot of changes because I one thing
he put best is that in Major League

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baseball, you play one hundred and
sixty two games, and you have an

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off night or two, you maybe
lose three in a row. Well,

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guess what, you can turn it
around in college baseball. When Arizona lost

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those ten straight conference games, that's
hard to recover from. Like I said,

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you really sometimes and most of the
times you can't. Where even major

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League baseball, you can have a
ten losing streak and it's not going to

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hurt you in the Grand scheme of
things. So I think that's one thing

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that he's talked about is that every
game takes on at his importance and college

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baseball, but you could just see
that, you know, the players really

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gravitate to him. They love his
way of managing as a coach because I

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think that he you know, everybody
wants to play pro baseball, and I

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think that with his background, he
runs his program a lot in that regard,

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so that this is what you expect
when you get into the pros.

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And I have not talked to a
single player that hasn't raved about what he's

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been able to do for them them
for both on and off the field.

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So we all know you as the
football guy, the basketball guy, and

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the baseball guy. Which is more
And I know this is a tough question

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for you. Which is more enjoyable? And I don't mean that to favor

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one or the other, but I'm
thinking baseball must be more relaxing even at

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work or am I row? Well, I look at it a couple of

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ways. You know, baseball,
there's a lot of preparation that goes into

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it because the games can run long, and you know you're you're doing it

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solo and so you've got time to
fill, so you have a lot of

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work to do before the game starts. Yeah, I like it once the

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season rolls on, and I think
when you go into a weekend series and

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if you're totally prepared for it.
Yeah, I love going to the ballpark.

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It's just a great feeling. There's
just something calming about getting there early

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and watching batting practice, etc.
You know, the most. I say

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this because I love doing all sports. Basketball is probably the most because the

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pace of the game. I mean, it's just NonStop and you're done in

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two hours and so that that's fun. But football, on the other hand,

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is probably the most exciting of the
three because the potential were big plays

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and big crowds and just what when
you played twelve games again kind of like

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you know college baseball, where every
game is magnified, and football it's magnified

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even more so. It's it's the
advance of football build up to that Saturday

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and then the pageantry of the game
that makes it so special. Yeah,

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that's it. It's kind of like, that's sort of it's almost obvious that

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you know, as you say,
you know, basketball is NonStop, you

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know the football, You've got you
know, you might have forty fifty thousand,

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or you go to a big place, you got seventy eighty thousand people

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at a game, and the excitement
of that's just got to be, you

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know, unbelieved. Plus you get
to go to all of the games.

409
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We only get to do it a
half of them. So anyway, but

410
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that's well, you know, it's
like, you know, this year,

411
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.920
Arizona is going to go down to
Startville and play Mississippi State. I'm already

412
00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:40.119
excited about that simply because it's an
SEC school And no they're not Alabama or

413
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LSU or several other schools in the
SEC. But it's a strong program.

414
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They'll have a pullhouse there, and
it's I just think the atmosphere is going

415
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.359
to be fun to watch and witness. So Steve and I we've been talking

416
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this all week about Okay, let's
grade the you know, the season for

417
00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.759
you know, all the sports talking
everybody, including you know, softball,

418
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.880
everybody like that. I know you
do those three, but I know you

419
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:04.839
pay attention to all of them.
I mean, you work in a kale

420
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right, so um, you know, Steve and I gave a B minus.

421
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:12.079
Uh softball, didn't you know,
get up to expectations. Baseball,

422
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:15.359
yes, they got into the tournament, but they worked great all year long.

423
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:18.200
Football, you know, my put
in my position on that they took

424
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.079
a big step forward, but in
the end they were still five and seven

425
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basketball and a great regular season PAC
twelve Chat Tournament championship flamed out in the

426
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:32.200
in the tournament. Can you can
you or would are you willing to grade

427
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.759
the program as a whole over this
last year and you could be a Russian

428
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:40.960
judge? Yeah, uh yeah,
you know, I I'm not going to

429
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:45.799
put it. The only y hook
at it is uh is each and every

430
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:51.319
program making progress. And that doesn't
mean that you double your wind total or

431
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.720
anything like that, but are you
getting better? And maybe it doesn't come

432
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:57.039
into an area of wins, but
maybe it's coming and you know, more

433
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:02.480
depth on the roster, you know, going key roles, et cetera,

434
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:07.279
shoring up things in areas that maybe
you'd been weaker on before. And so

435
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.920
that's the way I look at it, And you know, you look across

436
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:14.839
the board at the sports this year
and it would be hard to argue that

437
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more more more than less, we're
making progress in the in the right direction

438
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.119
and Yeah, it was a tough
season for softball. They lost some key

439
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:30.160
players, probably didn't get you know, some some some things out of a

440
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.720
couple of positions that they'd hope for
this year. But you know, that's

441
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.079
that happens, and it happens to
every sport and every school every year.

442
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:44.359
That's sometimes the beauty and sometimes the
the hard part about college sports is you

443
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.279
don't know what you're going to get
every year. You think you might know,

444
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.839
but you don't know until you actually
play the game. So I just

445
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.039
I look at the idea. Okay, if you're making progress, and so

446
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:57.079
you know, the sports I mostly
involved in, Yeah, football made a

447
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:02.119
heck of a progress. I mean, ball continued what it's been doing.

448
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:06.920
Baseball continued it's doing, so you
know, that makes my job easier.

449
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.319
And I look at what has happened
in the other sports, and I just

450
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.319
I like the idea that you know, they're moving forward in areas and you

451
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:18.440
see good things happening and there's a
positive vibe around the programs. I think

452
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.240
that's really important. Yeah, we
talk about this every note and again.

453
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:25.480
And you've been here since the late
eighties, I think maybe in mid eighties,

454
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.119
this era, this era of US
athletics has a vibe of the mid

455
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.240
nineties when it was the heyday,
at least in my mind, where a

456
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.519
lot of the school, a lot
of the teams are very very good.

457
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.920
I think it's headed in that direction, even even after maybe a little hit

458
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:45.160
up or two here. Well,
it's you know, you guys know it's

459
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.839
cyclical, and yeah, you go
through those periods where everything is going great,

460
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:52.480
and then you go through those periods
where things aren't going so well,

461
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.319
and you adjust to it and you
have to you have to wait your way

462
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.960
through the times and enjoy the good
times. And yeah, if you go

463
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.079
back, Steve and you guys know
this, I mean, really you can

464
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:08.920
trace it back to you Larry Smith
and lud Olson because they were the new

465
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.759
count Erry Kendall was already there and
saw not putting him into that area.

466
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:17.799
Mike and Drea. Of course,
those two guys, they kind of they

467
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:21.720
had good times. It seemed all
along. But I'm looking at the guys

468
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.440
that kind of in the period you're
talking about, the kind of spark plug

469
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:32.240
the two programs and got them on
the map and made them respectable programs not

470
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:36.079
only in the conference but around the
country. And so that's to me when

471
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:40.599
I kind of started, and yeah, there's been some up and down years

472
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:44.039
since, but at the same time, I go back to that respect factor.

473
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:47.559
And when I get a chance to
travel around the country, it amazes

474
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:55.400
me how many people know about Arizona
Athletics, respect Arizona Athletics, and are

475
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.240
envious of Arizona Athletics for all the
things that have gone on on campus over

476
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:03.440
the years. So I'm looking at
the at the u of a basketball roster

477
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.279
and I'm wondering, if You're gonna
go up to Tommy and say, can

478
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:11.680
you give me like a John Smith
and a I mean, though there are

479
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:12.839
some names in there, how the
hell are you going to do that?

480
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.720
Well? There at least, you
know, you know, the toughest ones

481
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:22.559
for me actually are the hyphenated last
names, and so once those are gone,

482
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:29.440
I'm I'm a happy man. I'll
figure out. You know, I'm

483
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.680
not even gonna try myself. I
can give you a both of beach In

484
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:34.039
and that's as far as I can
go. Right, Okay, we didn't

485
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.240
even have that one, and he's
been here a while. Yeah, so

486
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.799
you know, I you know,
we'll figure The thing I do is you

487
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.759
know, I go talk to those
guys, you know, once they get

488
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.200
on campus, and I usually record
them saying their name very slowly, and

489
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.440
then I can go back and practice
it and get it down and not have

490
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:55.880
to worry about it. But yeah, Tommy's put it. How long ago

491
00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.720
was it that social media was ablaze
with the fact that Tommy wudn't recruit and

492
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:05.039
you exactly, Well, that's where
I was going to go get rid of

493
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:09.759
him. Now I've lost faith in
him. He can't, he can't recruit.

494
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.039
Don't you just love it? Brian? I was gonna say, so

495
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:19.240
what my guy here, my partner
here off the ledge, although he's kind

496
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.599
of a little off the ledge now, he's dying to know about the PAC

497
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:24.519
twelve and the PAC ten because he
doesn't know what he's going to do the

498
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:29.000
rest of his life. I'm a
guy who's just tell me where to go,

499
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:30.279
put me on a plane, whatever, just let me get there.

500
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:34.480
Where do you stand? Is it
bother you that much? They hasn't been

501
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:38.680
determined yet? Are you okay with
your patients? It doesn't bother me that

502
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:44.960
that nothing's been determined yet, because
I have to trust the leadership in the

503
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:49.119
conference. I think they've got a
smart guy running the league, and I

504
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.559
think he's doing everything. He can't
make things right for the ten schools that

505
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:57.240
are going to be in the league
a year and if they add anymore.

506
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:02.599
So the thing that I have no
patience with is all the yahoo's on social

507
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:07.480
media who think they know the answer
when they really don't. It's also it's

508
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:15.440
actually to me, it's become my
daily comedic escape is to go on Twitter

509
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:20.160
and hear about and read about different
guys who claim they, oh yo,

510
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:22.960
they know they have the source,
this is how it's going to happen.

511
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:27.680
And of course they don't know because
they don't have the source because there's only

512
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.920
one source. And until you're going
to quote the commissioner, then I tell

513
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:36.240
you what you don't know. So
I enjoy read. It first bothered me

514
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:38.519
when it first started, when you
started. I started reading all this stuff

515
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:43.079
about you know what's going to happen
and this that and the other thing,

516
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.960
and then I realized, well,
no one knows, and they can tell

517
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:50.960
you all day. I read one
yesterday from somebody who I'd never heard of

518
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.079
before, and that's the way it
is. You don't know who these people

519
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:59.559
are and It's like I have contacts
through every school in the PAC twelve,

520
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.960
and I know exactly what's going to
happen. This is unequivably the way it's

521
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.440
going to come down, and blah
blah blah. I'm like, no,

522
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:12.480
you don't. I mean, because
if you did, then you know everyone

523
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.719
else would know it too. So
yeah right now, Like I said,

524
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:21.000
I just laugh every day when I
read stuff from people that obviously don't know,

525
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.559
because no one knows except the head
guy. And I'm going to trust

526
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:27.679
him at that, I will say. And I think, you know we've

527
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:32.880
talked about this before that Bobby Robbins
and Dave Hekey have only one thing in

528
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:37.360
mind, and that is taking care
of the University of Arizona. And if

529
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.119
that means they're in the PAC twelve, the PAC ten, or the PAC

530
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:45.159
fourteen, or the Big twelve or
the Big sixteen or the Big twenty,

531
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.920
they have to look out for what
is right for the University of Arizona.

532
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:54.360
And I guarantee you every president,
chancellor, athletic director in the PAC ten

533
00:34:55.559 --> 00:35:00.079
is doing exactly the same thing as
because if thing don't work out, if

534
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:05.679
the money isn't there, and you've
got to have money to survive these days

535
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:08.280
in college athletics, then you've got
to go find the best deal for your

536
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:13.920
school. And I'm sorry to the
other people in the league. You know

537
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.960
you tried, but if you don't
come through for us, you know,

538
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:20.639
we got to take care of ourselves. I think that's every school has got

539
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:23.679
to look at it that way.
I am that's That's the one thing I

540
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:28.079
do know. The one thing I
do know is that Bobby Robins the day

541
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:30.840
Peak are looking out for number one, and I believe they want to stay

542
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:36.199
in the current alignment. I think
everybody does. But if it's not right

543
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:40.719
and you're talking about survival and you've
got to find another place to go and

544
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.119
exactly it, I mean, that's
exactly. But but Brian, I really

545
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:46.280
do want to know, and I
want to know, like right now.

546
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:54.280
That's all I can say. Well, my sources tell me put it on

547
00:35:54.280 --> 00:36:00.320
Twitter, Brian. All right,
Brian, thanks a bunch, and have

548
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.360
a great summer and then we'll we'll
catch you. Uh, everybody will be

549
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:07.920
back in August. Right, we'll
be suffering at the old old fall fall

550
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:20.679
pranks. Uh yeah, fall in
parentheses exactly, Thank Thun And he's right,

551
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:22.880
that's exactly it. I mean again, I do want to know.

552
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:25.800
But in the end, just what
Robin said, you know on our show

553
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:29.800
on Monday, we're gonna do what's
the best thing for the University of Arizona.

554
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:31.039
You know, we'll talk. We
can talk some more about that as

555
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:35.880
we go along, because it's uh, I mean, that's that's that's how

556
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:40.079
it's got to work. And if
you're not happy with that, then you're

557
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:44.280
you're just not happy. Right,
Okay, let's take a break. We'll

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day coming up on Sunday. Yeah, you got going anything going on for

611
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.519
nothing. No, might go to
the backyard and in the pool. Where

612
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:51.480
are your boys? One's Baltimore ones
here? Yeah yeah, so we'll see,

613
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:55.480
we'll see what happens. Yeah yeah, um Baltimore. Baltimore works for

614
00:40:55.559 --> 00:41:01.119
the University of Maryland. Now,
oh, our kind of communications communication guy,

615
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:07.079
make a living at this better than
better than you saw you would you

616
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:12.599
saw what happens at Uh. Well, the athletic right Athletics lost twenty fantastic

617
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:16.360
writers, twenty twenty of man the
NBA, and then anybody we know one

618
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:20.280
guy in Phoenix, I don't remember
the name. I don't recognize the name,

619
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.920
but twenty of them. So there's
four twenty percent of the people.

620
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.719
Twenty guys, four percent. A
lot of the early times, the goals

621
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:31.599
some people. It's this business sucks, all the journalism business. Do you

622
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:36.599
know? Communications? You know,
I mean, you know that's what eventually

623
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:37.880
you know? I know number kids, you know some kids that you know,

624
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:44.280
kids of our friends, you know
who've gotten getting journalism degrees but using

625
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:49.280
it to go into you know,
some of communication. Not necessarily you're trying

626
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.079
to get a job at a newspaper
or whatnot. Um, you know,

627
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:58.360
a friend of my daughters just graduated
from journalism at at George Washington University.

628
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.840
You know, she's trying to get
a job of an NBC or you know,

629
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.679
or maybe some TV. Yeah,
some news service or something like that.

630
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:07.559
You know, it's not necessarily you
know, it used to be your

631
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:12.000
journalism. You go to newspapers,
right, newspapers, wire service. When

632
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.639
back in the day, when I
was at when I was going through journalism

633
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:20.440
at the UFA, it was it
was like sacrilegious to say I'm interested in

634
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:27.159
TV or funny. My last year, my last year of school, I

635
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:31.639
signed up for a um because radio
and TV was separate from journalism. Radio

636
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:36.599
TV was a department, journalist department, and I signed up for just a

637
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:40.400
history of broadcasting class in the radio
TV department. And my advisor saw my

638
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:44.880
schedule, What what are you doing
taking a radio TV class? I said,

639
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:46.280
look, I just think it's an
easy class, and you know,

640
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:50.199
I just need some units and I
thought it would be an easy class.

641
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.559
He says, i'd want you taken
that, and he kind of made me

642
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:57.760
drop it because he didn't want me
dabbling in radio and TV. And it's

643
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:00.079
a different it's a different writing style
too. Yeah, he didn't. He

644
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.920
didn't want me to have anything to
do with radio. It makes it makes

645
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:07.360
sense. But back and back in
those days out yeah we're talking nineteen eighties.

646
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:10.519
Yeah, but you know still it
was, it was and then you

647
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:15.400
know now you they're kind of like
intertwined. Have you, by the way,

648
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:22.159
have you spoken to our guy um
or La guy or Montana guy or

649
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.400
non Montana guy? You go,
will will you give me advice that was

650
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:29.719
different than mine? No? Man, I don't haven't heard sent him.

651
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.079
He's got a job. I haven't
heard from him. If you listen to

652
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:37.360
us, well, you shouldn't take
my advice. Can't live with your parents

653
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.840
time. Sorry, I didn't miss
you up. I didn't screw up your

654
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:46.360
career. It's tough, man.
It's like it's our guy um Jason here,

655
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.920
he's got a senior year left.
I said, you gotta get your

656
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.800
stuff together. I gotta get do
it right away. Yeah, you know

657
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.280
you have no time to time.
I mean you need to be doing that.

658
00:43:55.320 --> 00:44:00.000
You know. Between my junior,
sophomore and junior year college, I

659
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.599
got that job in bull Hit City
and that was probably the best thing I

660
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:06.760
ever get. I got. I
got newspaper clippings out of time. Yeah,

661
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:08.760
the newspaper clippings and those things helped
me get a job, and I

662
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:12.639
got I got a full time job, and then at the years one day

663
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.159
to start ran out of college.
If I hadn't done all that stuff,

664
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.199
I wouldn't been I wouldn't have gotten
you know. So those experiences, your

665
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.039
experience got ye absolute Yeah, yeah, anyways, but yeah, it's good

666
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.000
to talk to Brian Jefferies. He's
uh, he's always fun, you know,

667
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:28.840
a good sense of humor with us. He h but you know,

668
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:30.760
he's he's the guy. You know, I was like, he's nineteen eighty

669
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.119
six when he got here. Yeah, you know, he filled in and

670
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:36.559
then he took over. You've been
here even a little longer than Wendell.

671
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.159
Neil's gonna be yeah, a little
bit. But a guy who's seen a

672
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:44.840
lot I wanted to ask him,
was Jase Davis the prettiest swing he's ever

673
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:46.360
seen? You know, because he's
seen a lot of well, he's he's

674
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:52.639
seen some great guys. Who's the
catcher last year the previous year, who

675
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:54.960
who we thought was amazing? Right, Um, so there's been a lot

676
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:58.719
of great project comes to great players
that come through. Your guys have played

677
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:00.280
a lot of time, you know, go back to the who was the

678
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:02.800
center field of that was just so
smooth two or three years ago. Uh

679
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:06.320
he roamed them. Well, yeah, we had him on our show.

680
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:08.119
He was fantastic too. And I
can't remember his name. God, he

681
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:14.320
was fantastic. Yeah. He covered
a lot of ground, could hit,

682
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.519
hit to get on God, I'm
looking, I'm looking through our old old

683
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:22.159
things. But yeah, no,
uh oh man like Dante Williams, fantastic

684
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:29.079
player. Another guy who just yeah, yeah, it was you know who

685
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.719
did that too, which of course
it was bad for him too, was

686
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:37.880
Clid. Clid. He didn't look
like he was playing. It looked after

687
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.880
playing, except that when he was
playing in the next level he needed to

688
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:44.360
play harder, you know. But
he was one of those guys who was

689
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:46.960
just so fluid, effortless, just
like fluid, just looks so effortless and

690
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:51.360
thought not trying all that hard,
right when he was just good. Yeah,

691
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:52.679
he was just good, and that
was the problem. He was just

692
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.639
good when he could have been,
like Damon said, if he worked as

693
00:45:55.639 --> 00:46:00.000
hard as me, he would have
been in the league forever. Yeah,

694
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.159
yeah, no, And guy,
and guys are like that. You know,

695
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:05.639
we always running guys like you know, I wish I had had his

696
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:07.280
talent, that would have done something
with it, that would have worked harder.

697
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.719
It's like Gilbert Gilbert Arena, come
on, big guy was fantastic and

698
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:15.960
if he wouldn't take guns into arenas
and kind of a fool he'd be,

699
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.920
he would have been fantastic. There
is that. There is that, but

700
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.920
uh, yeah, you know,
but you know, I'll tell you another

701
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.440
guy because I was watching this the
other day as well, um Antoine Quisson.

702
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:30.800
Yeah, another guy effortless, just
he would just glide around, you

703
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:34.760
know, kick returns and interceptions and
things like that. You don't you know,

704
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:36.960
he had his time in the league. And I'm not saying that he

705
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:40.880
didn't work hard. I'm just saying
when a guy who just was natural lot

706
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:45.079
Trump candidate Trunk Candid was another guy, very natural. They're just just a

707
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.800
fluid. Did you say fluid?
That that that that's a good. If

708
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.199
you have a guy that we risching, just give us a quick call.

709
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.320
Uh, there's a lot of those
fluid. One of those guys because he's

710
00:46:57.519 --> 00:46:59.599
he was one of your bus guys. He'd come up the bus and you

711
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.440
say yeah, and you just look
at him. You Okay, that's a

712
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:06.079
player. Yeah, that guy's really
really good. You know, guys like

713
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.639
guys like that in baseball, Guys
like that in basketball flip out pretty much

714
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:13.880
every sport you know, who just
do things, you know, so fluid.

715
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.400
You know, he's pissing me off. He's like that Tiger Woods kid.

716
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:21.880
Oh yeah, I know, but
you know what you could you know

717
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.760
what, you can have somebody show
you how to hit a golf ball and

718
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:30.599
you know, show you all the
shots. But there's there's a thing that

719
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:34.599
you know that that like, that's
what you're meant to do. Oh yeah,

720
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:38.079
kid is he's growing up. He's
growing up too fast. But you

721
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:40.880
know, there was a there was
a I think it was a TikTok,

722
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.599
you know, just taking a swing
at a tournament that he played in recently,

723
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:49.880
and he looked looked just like well
when they when they played a tra

724
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.079
version of it when they played together
in the father son thing and they show

725
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:57.159
side by side stuff. He has
a spin of the club and like I

726
00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:59.480
said, no Tiger can show me
how to hit a golf ball, But

727
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.400
I'm not gonna look like Tiger getting
a golf ball. You know, when

728
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:06.719
you learn, when you learn in
language, when's the best time that we're

729
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:08.800
learning as a kid. That's how
you're doing. He's not gonna teach you

730
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:13.639
at sixty one. But I know. But still, I mean, you

731
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:16.159
know, he could Okay, he
could go go find another seven year old.

732
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.119
But if the seven year old doesn't
have, of course, the gifts,

733
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.760
the gift or the god given talent
to do that, he's not gonna

734
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:29.000
look like Tiger. Of course.
Of course this guy was born with it.

735
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:30.760
I know he's got and he and
you know what, he got it.

736
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:34.119
He got all of it. Dude. It looks like he got all

737
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.840
the plus that's why you see the
Gilbert Arenas, the sons and the sons

738
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:40.280
of players. Can Griffy kN Griffy
Junior at the park all this time?

739
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.679
You know that? Yeah, I
mean we're starting. There's so many sons

740
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:51.000
of the guys that we grew up, you know watching Um, well there's

741
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:53.280
one now I just saw him.
I just saw him. Who's the guy

742
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:57.960
that we talked to? Maybe,
uh he's the coach now at the at

743
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.599
the California School, not Smith,
but the other guy, oh Man,

744
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:05.360
I just saw him on Facebook.
His son's got a commitment from Notre Dame

745
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:12.199
UM football player. Yeah, smash
oh Smigel, Smigel, Sigel, his

746
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:14.840
son, know what I mean?
Yeah, But nobody was gonna argue that

747
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:16.719
Joe Smigel was like one of the
greatest athletes around. He was alignment,

748
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:20.679
right, right, So that's my
point though they are all but but but

749
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:22.199
you're right, you know, well, well they get two things out of

750
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.960
it when they get the jeans,
right, the jeans, but then they

751
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.440
get the knowledge, sure right right. And if they don't get the jeans,

752
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:35.519
they had the knowledge, who are
the technique watching, watching a film?

753
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.599
All the things that other people don't
get to fright right? But I'm

754
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:43.519
trying to think of the dude play
the place for the Blue Jays right now,

755
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:46.800
Um, push the Blue Jays.
Um his dad played for the Angels.

756
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:51.679
Um, my friends are gonna yell
at me for this. He's playing

757
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:54.280
one of your guys. Guys.
He hits all the home run spring Springer.

758
00:49:54.599 --> 00:50:00.079
No no, no, no,
um ah, come on, Steve,

759
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:04.480
no, come, I don't follow
that stuff. I'm not I'm not

760
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:08.719
a I got I got, I
got My kid is going You suck you

761
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:15.079
really Vladimir Guerrero Ja you know,
and his dad. But you know,

762
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:19.760
Dante Bichette's kid plays for them.
Boba Schett again, you know one of

763
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.079
those guys. Sure when you grow
up, grow up around that and you

764
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:27.280
see it taking cuts every now and
again. And then you see Michael Jordan's

765
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.119
kid, I mean he played college. No no, no, he's just

766
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:35.960
no, he's just sleeping with the
Scunny Peppers. So they have different,

767
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:42.280
different things going off, Oh my
god, different, they pull it in

768
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:46.519
a different way. That's too funny. Steve, I can't believe you.

769
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:50.920
I know that stuff, but I
can't take you Yeah, yeah, yeah,

770
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:53.920
you remember that, but you couldn't
remember Laddie Junior's name. I'm into

771
00:50:53.960 --> 00:51:01.480
I'm into curtains and it's so bad. It's an addition that is not terrible.

772
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:05.320
But you know, but yes,
I mean we we're seeing all those

773
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.880
guys and you feel like, okay, you know, they were born with

774
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.280
the gene and they get kind of
get to get all the other things.

775
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:15.880
You get the s kind of all
these all the you know, Bob Boone

776
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:19.320
and his kids, you know,
Brett and Aaron Boone. And then sometimes

777
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.119
you mess like the Piros of sons
and those guys, the Bogie Barrows and

778
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:24.960
the yeah and all those kids,
they don't quite get there. No,

779
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:29.559
they don't quite get there. So
and my son is kind of like that,

780
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:34.079
you just didn't do me any favors
genetics was you didn't do me any

781
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:37.880
favors. I'm not six feet,
I'm not incredibly athletic. Well, you

782
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:39.679
know, he's very he's very athletic, and he's more athletic than me.

783
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:45.000
But it's it's like a generation or
two down the road before he's got a

784
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.239
kid that's got you know, I
know, guess what happens. Guess what

785
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:52.159
happens. As as your son gets
older and my sons get older, they'll

786
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:55.400
realize how smart you were. And
when he has his sons grow up now,

787
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:59.360
or his son goes up now,
he'll say his son will say,

788
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.559
Dad, what the heck happened?
What did you leave me? You give?

789
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:07.760
You give crap to a pop pop? Was? Was my grandfather really?

790
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:13.480
That dumb and that unathletic son?
Just listen to his tape. Listen

791
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:20.719
to the tapes. I'd say it
for you. Here was a podcast exactly.

792
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:22.480
I mean that what can you?
Yeah, I mean, what can

793
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:24.679
I say, he doesn't give me
some funny looks already, I don't know.

794
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:29.639
We're trying to make them into a
left handed picture. All right,

795
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:31.119
let's take our break. We're top
of the hour. We'll be back.

796
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:36.119
We've got breaking news or some It's
been a slow day, but still some

797
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:37.960
fun stuff to talk about. School. Great back

