1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:09,359 You're listening to w U n H three command God, don't get so greenly 2 00:00:10,519 --> 00:00:48,479 matselthank you. Welcome back everybody, as we cruise into our third hour, 3 00:00:48,759 --> 00:00:53,439 New Marrow trace of Matt Connorton unleashed and we are live from the studios of 4 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:57,920 w m n H ninety five point three f M and Glorious Downtown Manchester, 5 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,840 New Hampshire, also on Comcast Channel if you're in Manchester, and hello to 6 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,480 all of our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can 7 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,120 go to my website Matt Connorton dot com for all of your live streaming options, 8 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,200 social media links, contact and FOS, show archives, et cetera, 9 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,120 et cetera. Today is Saturday, December two, twenty twenty three. Jenny 10 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,480 is here as well at the news desk. I am present, yes, 11 00:01:19,599 --> 00:01:22,439 yes, and you can be with us at if you want to call six 12 00:01:22,519 --> 00:01:26,120 oh three two five oh six oh seven. The studio line is open six 13 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,000 oh three two five oh six oh seven. You can also text us at 14 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,359 six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on social media 15 00:01:34,439 --> 00:01:38,359 at Matt Connorton. You can email me Matt at Matt connorton dot com and 16 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,239 of course you can interact into opine in the Facebook live chat, but the 17 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,519 best thing to do so that we can here and enjoy your dulcet tones is 18 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,079 to give us a call at six oh three two five oh six oh seven, 19 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:53,920 and uh, I think uh, Jeff Pegari from Greensboro, North Carolina 20 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,400 is on the line. Jeff, is that you? That is me? 21 00:01:57,599 --> 00:02:00,680 Quick Matt, wait kind of a can I see a question before we get 22 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,400 to the Biggest News? Why are you guys moving to Saturday? Everybody's wondering. 23 00:02:06,359 --> 00:02:09,039 Uh, yeah, just a little bit of a change in content strategy, 24 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,360 and uh it could change again in the future. We shall see. 25 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,800 But got a lot to do, got a lot to do during the week, 26 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:23,479 so right now this is a little easier, okay, msk ms asking 27 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,840 asking me, asking me get to my big news class. Another quick question, 28 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,280 The Frank Sinatra Show. How do I get to listen to it? 29 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,960 Because Matt, I am a big Sinatra fan? Oh the new how do 30 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,879 you get it? How do you get to listen to what the Flank sinatras 31 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:43,400 that was actually gonna be ailing on Sunday, Jenny, The Frank Sinatra Show, 32 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,919 it's especial that Jenny doesn't know that. By the way, by the 33 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,719 way, by the way, Matt, by the way, Matt and Jenny 34 00:02:51,759 --> 00:02:57,400 Today at one pm Eastern Time on Facebook Live, JP and IV are gonna 35 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,360 go live and I on Matt Carlton Today. I B is that Isaac Banks, 36 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,400 Yes, also known as We're gonna be going live and I'm of you 37 00:03:06,439 --> 00:03:10,919 guys, were gonna you give me you come me going live for two four 38 00:03:12,039 --> 00:03:21,199 hours of Christmas fun and uh wow, all right hashtag guys and you guys 39 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,560 by the way, by the way, happy holiday. Then hopefully everybody's been 40 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:29,319 good because because JP and I B are looking at the Christmas plot, including 41 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:35,240 mag Carlton's Christmas place. Yes, yes, I suspect it as much much 42 00:03:35,319 --> 00:03:38,800 love back at you. Well, you guys have a good day, and 43 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,479 I would call him next week. Happy holiday you guys, ex me, 44 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,039 me, me and Isaac. Me and Isaac love you guys, so keep 45 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,599 it up, all right. We appreciate all the support. Thank you, 46 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:53,919 Happy holidays, see you all right bye bye? Alrighty uh well, very 47 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,199 nice. Nice here from Greensboro, North Carolina, checking in hashtag I say 48 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,960 to you, uh six o three well done six o three two five six 49 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:08,479 seven is the studio line if you'd like to chime in six O three two 50 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:15,439 five oh six o seven. Uh. Before we get into my my favorite 51 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,720 duo, uh splitting up, uh, my favorite musical duo, we should 52 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,480 mention to just a few events coming up. Well, for one thing, 53 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:29,920 we've got the Miracle on Elm Street. Yes, the morning show is going 54 00:04:29,959 --> 00:04:33,680 to be broadcasting live I believe from Bonfire yep, and uh I think uh 55 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:38,639 now starting at four belief starting at four pm, and uh, we'll we'll 56 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,079 be there. You're donating a beautiful painting. I'm going to try and make 57 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,680 some holla to donate with it to sweeten the pot excellent, maybe even some 58 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:54,279 cinnamon applela oh very nice around Christmas. Yeah, and I'm donating a free 59 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,720 uh online or in person if they're in the area hypnosis session yep, yep. 60 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,120 So lots of great toys coming in oh yeah yeah, and there's still 61 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,480 plenty of time to donate. You can drop your gifts off here at the 62 00:05:06,519 --> 00:05:12,360 station at ten forty five Elm Street, Suite three hundred. Probably the easiest 63 00:05:12,399 --> 00:05:17,079 thing is to uh just bring which in the past a lot of people have 64 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,920 brought gifts right right to bonfire. Yeah, come down, hi, everybody 65 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,360 on the day. So that'll be that's Wednesday, right wen Wednesday, starting 66 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,160 at four o'clock at the bonfire, Yes, yes, so please. You 67 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,079 know, it's a great event, an annual event that Peter White and Maddie 68 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:41,000 Kushane and everything benefits Manchester kiddos. A lot of other great people are involved, 69 00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:44,319 like Jeff Ny and and and yeah, and the city really comes together 70 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:47,600 to to support kids right here in the Queen City. Make sure they have 71 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:53,199 toys for the holidays. So for get the older kids too, teenagers. 72 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,279 Lots of great things to get teenagers. Yep. And we're always looking for 73 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,240 older kids stuff too. Yeah. So that's coming up. That is this 74 00:06:01,439 --> 00:06:05,399 week. That's on Wednesday, and then we also have we're going to be 75 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,759 attending an event at the Art Studio. Yes, I'm excited about this. 76 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,480 I'm looking forward to it. This is my new favorite place, I think. 77 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,600 Yeah, I didn't know it existed, and now that I do, 78 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,199 I'm in love. Yeah. A couple of weeks ago, Yeah, it 79 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,120 was a couple of weeks ago. Now, right, we went to a 80 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,120 show there at I'm trying to get the flyer to open on the Mosaic Art 81 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,160 Collective right here in the Queen City, yes, which it's right above the 82 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,279 Palace Theater. It's amazing, beautiful, beautiful artwork. There's some artists studios 83 00:06:33,319 --> 00:06:39,680 in there. We went to a lovely concert and it had a blast, 84 00:06:40,439 --> 00:06:44,040 and then we're going to be going back. Oh I found the Okay, 85 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,040 the flyer loaded on my computer. Yeah, so that's going to be on 86 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,759 Friday. Oh that's yeah, it's a little wait. So there's two different 87 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:55,079 times you can go. Yeah, it's Friday, December fifteenth. We're going 88 00:06:55,160 --> 00:07:00,800 to the noon event. Because but when you showed it to me, my 89 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:01,920 first impulse was to say, oh, let's go to the five thirty. 90 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,399 And then I was like, oh, wait a minute, it's Friday. 91 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:04,839 We don't know how long it's going to be, and of course I have 92 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,160 retrospect radio with poly c but yeah, this will be very interesting. So 93 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,240 what this is, and it's a subject that we'll be talking about. I 94 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:15,279 don't know that we'll necessarily have time to get to it today in any depth, 95 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,560 but at some point we'll be getting into this on the show Artificial Intelligence 96 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:24,519 in Art a Discussion Friday, December fifteenth. There's one at noon and one 97 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,720 at five thirty at the Mosaic Art Collective Sweet two oh one at sixty six 98 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:34,000 Hanover Street, right here in Manchester. And partly well I'm sorry, go 99 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:40,720 ahead. Oh I like the title. If you look at the imagery AI 100 00:07:40,839 --> 00:07:46,759 in art revolutionizing creativity or threatening authenticity. Yes, very interesting to talk about 101 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:53,040 this subject. By the way. Coincidentally, last night you had gone to 102 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,759 bed, But I was a plate working on something and I was trying to 103 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:05,439 Dolly three, which is the new open AI image generator, or the newest 104 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,160 version of it. I was trying to get it to create a new logo 105 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:11,360 for something. I won't say for what, but and boy, it was 106 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:16,680 failing me horribly. Oh boy, maybe the prompts I was if you know 107 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,839 anything about AI, maybe the prompts I was using weren't specifically enough. But 108 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,680 like I was trying to get it to create a logo for something, and 109 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,639 there's specific verbiage, there's specific verbiage that needs to go into the logo, 110 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,200 and it was like it kept missing letters and it was very restraining. Dolly 111 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:39,360 three, Dolly three, like the artist Dolly d A L L E. 112 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:43,840 Three, it's you have to pay for it. If you use it through 113 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:50,000 chat GPT, but you can use the Bing chat to access it for free. 114 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,919 Oh and I guess this is Bing's way of trying to get people to 115 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:58,039 use Bing instead of Google or something with good luck. But so there's a 116 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,600 way that you can access it for free. I found and I was trying 117 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,240 to use it last night to create a logo for something and uh it couldn't 118 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:11,120 even get it. It was just it was a total fail. So, 119 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,639 well, it's new technology. That's what's gonna be you know, yes, 120 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:20,120 yes, but but it's it's interesting to uh well, anyway, It's something 121 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:22,039 we'll obviously be talking a lot about in the coming days, coming weeks, 122 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,200 perhaps the coming years on the show, as it affects everything having to do 123 00:09:26,279 --> 00:09:30,519 with, you know, the music industry. And but I do use it. 124 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:33,159 I do use you know. I love the chat GPT. I know 125 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,600 you do. You finally used it only for your benefit, that's right, 126 00:09:37,879 --> 00:09:43,120 that's right. I a poor it. Otherwise I like to as a writer, 127 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,600 I will not use it for myself. But you wanted something, so 128 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:52,120 you got it. I like to ask chat GPT questions like you know. 129 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,200 Sometimes I use it in my work to help me you know, if I 130 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,519 need something written quickly. But also I like to ask it questions like, 131 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,240 you know, what exact actly is your plan to completely take over and destroy 132 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,600 humanity? Did it tell you when the terminators are coming? It does not, 133 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:13,120 It says that, it responds that is classified. No, it actually 134 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,840 I don't. I don't really ask it those questions. I'm afraid to. 135 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,960 I'll tell you what though. When I was using Dolly three in the bing 136 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,399 chat, I'd type a prompt, you know, asking it to create a 137 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,120 logo, and then it would create it. It would do something that completely 138 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,720 unusable. And then when I would ask it again and I would, you 139 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:35,720 know, try to be more specific about what I was asking for, it 140 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:39,600 kind of got a little bit snarky with me. And I'm not kidding when 141 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,480 I say this, this is not a bit. It got a little bit 142 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,279 snarky. It would say things like I already did that, but if you 143 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,039 want me to try again, I can, or something like that. But 144 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,840 it was it was talking back to me a little bit. It really was. 145 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,039 It was saying things like I already did that for you. It was 146 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,799 actually saying things like that, and I'm like, what this? Uh, 147 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,639 Maybe because I'm using the free version through bing, but it had a little 148 00:11:00,639 --> 00:11:05,840 bit of an attitude with me that surprised me, Like, I'm not kidding, 149 00:11:05,879 --> 00:11:07,799 it really did do that, and I was a little taken. Aback, 150 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:11,799 I don't think I like your tone. They're uh three, Does it 151 00:11:11,879 --> 00:11:16,159 get to know you? Or is it it's just starting out every time? 152 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:20,200 Is it getting to know you? Uh? Well, it does learn uh 153 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,440 in theory. Uh, but uh, I don't know. I I don't 154 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,519 want it to get to know me if it's gonna be rude to me like 155 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,080 that, I ask it for something and it does it wrong, and then 156 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,440 uh, it tells me, well, I already did that for you. 157 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,000 It's like, yeah, I'm asking you to do it again, but do 158 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:39,440 it correctly that no, I did not. I wonder what would have happened 159 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,639 if you had. Then it'll probably uh like an animated middle finger will appear 160 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,639 or something. I don't know, it'll be banned. I don't know. 161 00:11:46,759 --> 00:11:50,320 I don't know what the consequences of uh fighting with it? But uh, 162 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:56,080 you know, I mean I shan't try to argue with the AI because I 163 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,799 don't want it to kill me. I might be the first one it kills. 164 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,799 When it does decide to turn on humanity and destroy us, it's like, 165 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,840 we're going to get that Matt Connorton guy first, because he kept insisting 166 00:12:05,919 --> 00:12:09,639 that we do the same thing over and over because he didn't like what we 167 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:15,480 did the first time. So satisfying that one. So once it becomes sentient, 168 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,879 I'm going to be the first to go. But that's a that's another 169 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,440 subject we have to Oh, oh, I knew there was another event we 170 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:31,080 wanted to mention. Yes, the the drag Trivia. Yes, Thursday night 171 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,480 at the Hopknot, and we will be there. We will, we will, 172 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,879 so come down and say hello. It starts Thursday, December seven at 173 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,320 seven pm. Are you ready for this, folks? Matt is going to 174 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:48,679 play bingo. He has agreed he will play bingo, Drag Bingo. Did 175 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,480 I say, did I say drag bingo or did I say drag trivia? 176 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:54,519 Not sure? I think he said trivia. Actually it's not trivia. They 177 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:56,720 usually right, that's right, they usually have trivia on Thursday night. But 178 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:03,320 I thinking especially they're doing Yeah, so next week Thursday, So with Coco 179 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:09,840 Bean Rains, Coco Bean Rains and Cordelia Rose. Yes, we'll be there. 180 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:16,000 There will be prizes. There's a ten dollar cover twenty one plus and 181 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,120 Jenny and I will be there, so come on down and say hello. 182 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,200 I'm looking forward to it. Absolutely. I got to play drag bingo once 183 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,799 before and I had a blast. Oh I'm looking forward to doing it again. 184 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:31,320 Yes, it's a hoot, it's a good time. You certainly will 185 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,240 have some laughter. Yes, And I'll tell you what I like it. 186 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:39,000 I like the laughter, I like the joking. I like taking a break 187 00:13:39,039 --> 00:13:41,080 away from the world. Yes, and I'm really looking forward to this. 188 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:46,440 And the pretzels ain't bad either, Seriously, I was looking, oh, 189 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:50,639 all right, I'm thinking maybe we got to get the pizza pretzel. Maybe 190 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,200 get you the pizza pretzel. That's my favorite. I'm not I don't know. 191 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,200 I might just skip the food and go straight for the dessert pretzels because 192 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,799 I was looking at some of those. Oh, I'll spend the next like 193 00:14:01,399 --> 00:14:05,360 months going to the gym every day. But it looks so good. Yep, 194 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:11,240 So that'll be a that'll be Thursday night. Melanie in the chat room 195 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:13,480 says, ha ha ha, skynet going to kill us all no matter what 196 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,879 you do. We know, we know we're just trying to, you know, 197 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:20,159 hang in for the long road. That's right, that's as long as 198 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:26,159 possible. Maybe they'll they'll skip us as long as Matt stops making the chat 199 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,039 GPT and the other AI programs. Mad. I mean, you're gonna put 200 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:33,720 a big target on them. I know, so stop it. I wish 201 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:37,000 I don't get snarky with me. I wish I had saved that somewhere. 202 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,080 It really I was. I was taken aback. It's like I already did 203 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,080 that for you. It's like, yeah, you're you're pretty soon. It's 204 00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:46,960 just going to be like the Soup Nazi. It's no AI for you. 205 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,960 Get out. That would be horrible. I don't want to be left I 206 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,279 don't. I don't want to be left behind. Oh boy, that's another 207 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,960 story. Six O three two five O six O seven six O three two 208 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:01,000 five oh six O seven is a studio line. All right, we have 209 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:03,919 to talk about it. I've wait wait. I want to read you a 210 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:05,919 quote, and I want you to tell me who wrote it. Okay, 211 00:15:07,559 --> 00:15:11,720 his behavior has become adversarial and aggressive instead of professional and curious, courteous. 212 00:15:13,159 --> 00:15:18,480 I do know who said that? Who said that? The Great Daryl Hall 213 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:22,320 correct ding ding ding ding and what I but what I is shocking to me 214 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,360 is who he said it about. Yeah, that's the hard part, the 215 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,559 great John Oates. This took me by surprise, Like I didn't see this 216 00:15:30,679 --> 00:15:33,159 coming in any way, shape or form. I thought they were still toring 217 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:39,080 together. Yeah, they apparently they last toured in twenty twenty one. I 218 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:43,600 think I honestly didn't realize that they'd gone there. Yeah, this is bizarre. 219 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:50,200 Yeah, it's like, uh, you know, watching this happen with 220 00:15:50,559 --> 00:15:54,440 of course, Daryl Hall versus John Oates. It's not Daryl Hall and John 221 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,679 Oates anymore. It's Daryl Hall versus John Oates. Yes, you know, 222 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:02,720 it's it's reading reading this and reading these articles and these quotes of them sniping 223 00:16:02,759 --> 00:16:04,159 at each other. It's like some of you might relate to this. It's 224 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,159 like to me it's like lyne and bed at night and hearing my parents argue. 225 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,240 You know, for those of you who've experienced that when you're a kid, 226 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,759 how awful that is. It's like that. It feels like that this 227 00:16:17,919 --> 00:16:22,440 all went forward and said, it appears to me that John Oates intent has 228 00:16:22,559 --> 00:16:27,759 become to burden and harass me without regard to my interests as he has excuse 229 00:16:27,799 --> 00:16:34,720 me as his business partner, or the interest of woe. Woe of course 230 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,960 is whole Oates. Is it enterprise, yes, yes, whole Oates? 231 00:16:40,159 --> 00:16:42,679 Yes, because they had an album Hollowoats had an album named whole Oates, 232 00:16:42,799 --> 00:16:48,519 which that was very early in their career, and they chose that title with 233 00:16:48,799 --> 00:16:52,519 no apparent sense of cringe. It was clever. No, it's clever. 234 00:16:53,039 --> 00:16:57,759 As a lifelong fan of Darryl holland John Oates, I am almost as horrified 235 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,159 at the fact that there exists an album called whole Oats as I am at 236 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,839 the fact that they are getting this what Darryl Hall is termed a global divorce. 237 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,240 Global because the whole world is talking about this, and uh, it's 238 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:17,319 very upsetting. You should have called it holloats hau just like one word? 239 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:26,200 Why stop? Because I thought it was funny. Oh I think holl Oats 240 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:33,000 is clever, I don't I do? Uh now? So part of what 241 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:41,720 is so surprising about well, okay, I've been paying attention to uh to 242 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:48,039 a this is not let me put it this way, the fact that there's 243 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:55,839 some sort of issue between them which there clearly is, and and it seems 244 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,720 to be business based, a professional business disagreement that seems to have become personal. 245 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,200 But there's there's much that we still don't know. But the fact that 246 00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:11,839 there is any issue at all is not completely surprising to me. And I'll 247 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:17,519 tell you why, and I haven't. Uh, I'm gonna just make up 248 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,200 some observations that I've heard other people sort of hint at, but nothing. 249 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:27,200 I'm gonna go a little deeper on this because hopefully you're all as fascinated by 250 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:32,759 the drama of Daryl Hall and JOHNO says, I am, but a word 251 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,960 for that, the that the youth has, yeah, spilling the tea, 252 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,000 Oh, spilling the tea. I'm supposed to be gossip now, right, 253 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,759 right or not? What do you call it? I don't know. I 254 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:49,119 I well, I don't drink tea, but if I if I did, 255 00:18:49,279 --> 00:18:55,920 I would spill it because I'm clumsy. But uh so, I suppose this 256 00:18:56,079 --> 00:19:00,240 is apropos, which I think the young people also say that. I think 257 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:03,480 I heard DJ Reckless saying that the other day. He said something about, 258 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:07,839 oh, that's very apropos, so the young the young the young people say 259 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:15,720 that as well. I believe I have observed over the past five or six 260 00:19:15,839 --> 00:19:22,640 years that Daryl Hall has low key They young people definitely say that has low 261 00:19:22,759 --> 00:19:26,759 key been disparaging John Oates subtly and just a little bit here and there. 262 00:19:27,519 --> 00:19:32,400 Now people who have been following this closely. Everyone refers to the Bill Maher 263 00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:36,640 podcast where Daryl Hall was on Club Random. This was like, I don't 264 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,720 know, five six months ago, he was on Bill Maher's podcast, and 265 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,200 Bill Maher brings up you know, he's he's talking to Daryl Hall about his 266 00:19:44,319 --> 00:19:48,319 career and you know, whether uh they're gonna make new music or they're just 267 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,720 gonna keep touring on the hits and whatnot. And uh, Bill Maher said 268 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:57,559 something to him about in terms of his decision making. He said something about, 269 00:19:57,599 --> 00:20:02,359 well, but you have a partner, to which uh, Darryl Hall 270 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,000 quickly replied, you think John Oates is my partner? No, he's he's 271 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,200 we're business partners. He's not my creative partner. And Bill Marri's reaction is 272 00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:15,680 like, WHOA, what have I stepped in here? And Daryl Hall goes 273 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:19,519 on to say that, uh, they're not they're not creative partners, and 274 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:26,039 uh, they're they're strictly business partners. And yes they made records together called 275 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,079 Hall and Oates, but uh, but that doesn't mean but but even even 276 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:37,480 on the records, they're very separate, and people are people are pointing to 277 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:40,640 that, and and did at the time saying why is he why is he 278 00:20:40,759 --> 00:20:44,599 talking about John that way? He's he's making it sound like he's basically Daryl's 279 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:48,799 basically making himself sound like a solo artist, and like John Oates is just 280 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,839 kind of this hanger on, kind of the Andrew Ridgley to Daryl's George Michaels 281 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,960 and or is it George Michael and you know, uh, and and then 282 00:20:57,079 --> 00:21:00,480 he kind of cleans it up a little bit later in the podcas asked because 283 00:21:00,519 --> 00:21:03,039 Bill Maher comes back to it and says, well, you know, when 284 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:06,000 you're a fan of people, you want you want the people you like to 285 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,680 like each other. And at that point Daryl clarifies, and he says, 286 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,279 and keep in mind this is before the lawsuit. Daryl says, oh, 287 00:21:11,319 --> 00:21:12,720 no, no, I do like John. We're friends. We're just we're 288 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:19,319 not We're just not creative partners like people think we are. John's really being 289 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,720 very verbal too, he's going out and talking to everybody. He told the 290 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:30,680 Los Angeles Trimes. Everything you do is just opposed against another person. Try 291 00:21:30,759 --> 00:21:34,160 doing that sometime. I don't want to use the word emasculating, because that's 292 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:37,640 mail, but it takes away your individuality. I thought it was Daryl who 293 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,039 said that. No, that was Hall Hall, Darryl Hall. No Hall, 294 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,799 Right, Yeah, Daryl said that. Daryl Hall. What did I 295 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,480 say? You said, John Oates? Oh, I'm sorry, Yeah, 296 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,480 John isn't saying as much as Daryl. Well, so Darrel is Daryl is 297 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:55,039 going, That's what I meant. Darryl is he's talking to everybody. I 298 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,960 kept well from everybody. That's that's pre lawsuit. Yeah, so Daryl, 299 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,359 Well, that's what I mean. Though. Darryl for a while now, 300 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,559 for about five or six years, has been trying to kind of distance himself 301 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:08,720 and I have a theory about this, and I found I found a podcast 302 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:11,319 that Daryl was on. This was a while ago, this was a couple 303 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,759 of years ago. I found a podcast interview that because you know, neither 304 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:18,440 of these guys really do a ton of interviews, but I found one from 305 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:27,400 a number of years ago where Darryl kind of strongly implied that some of those 306 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:32,680 songs that are credited where both he and John are credited as songwriters, it 307 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:36,759 was really mostly Darryl, and that they were never creative equals and that it's 308 00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:41,279 more of a ninety ten partnership. So he's been kind of disparaging John for 309 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:47,480 a while. My understanding is the big thing about this, this is all 310 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,880 about creative control over their names, their music, things of that nature. 311 00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:56,799 But prior to this lawsuit, Oates already sold a good chunk of his they 312 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:02,119 both did together, so there's a third They already sold off part of their 313 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:07,720 publishing. So in it's this company Prime Primary Wave. I think Hall is 314 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:12,079 afraid that if Oates sells his to this third party, now some third party 315 00:23:12,519 --> 00:23:19,160 has controlling ownership over their entire catalog, their name, their everything. Well 316 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:26,119 not only that, but according to Daryl Hall's attorneys, part of what is 317 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:34,079 in their their business agreement is there's a confidentiality. In other words, Daryl 318 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:41,279 is claiming that John violated this confidentiality agreement by showing the business agreement that they 319 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,680 have within Whole Oats Enterprises. It's hard for me to even say that Hole 320 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:56,039 Oates the by showing their agreement to Primary Wave because you're not supposed to do 321 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,160 that. So you're not supposed to do that without Hall approving it. And 322 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:02,720 neither of them can do that without the other approving it, which seems to 323 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:04,599 be why the judge has gone ahead and put a pause on the sale. 324 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:12,960 But Darryl. The thing about Darryl is I have long held a theory, 325 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,079 especially when I noticed Darryl. I noticed something Geez. I noticed this years 326 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,759 and years ago. In fact, there is an album, I think it's 327 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,960 Do It for Love, which was the last full length studio album of all 328 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:33,680 original material that Hall and Oates has ever put out, and I remember looking 329 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,119 Jesus must have been this was like fifteen years ago. It's been a long 330 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,039 time since they put out an original because Daryl has said they don't have anything 331 00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:45,559 to say together creatively. They've put out solo albums, but the last studio 332 00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:47,559 album they put out. You know, I love to look at liner notes 333 00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:49,680 if it's an artist that I'm really interested in, and like I said, 334 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,440 I'm a big fan, and I remember looking at the liner notes and there's 335 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,799 a section where you know, Darryl thanks. You know, you'll see that 336 00:24:56,839 --> 00:25:02,960 in albums, Darryl thanks these people. John thanks these people. And I 337 00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:07,960 notice in the section where it says Darryl thanks, he says something like I 338 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:12,680 want to thank my musical team, and then he and then he lists off 339 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,519 all these these names, and I noticed. I remember thinking, that's interesting. 340 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,160 I want to thank my musical team and not our musical team. That's 341 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,359 a good point. And I remember noticing that. And and I think, 342 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,759 if you looked at the part where John thanks everybody, he actually mentions Darryl. 343 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:37,559 But it's like Daryl never mentions John. My longstanding theory has been that, 344 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,880 uh, and forgive the pop psychology here, but I think Darryl resents 345 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:48,000 I think he resents John Oates because I think Darryl likes to think of himself 346 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:52,119 as a solo artist. I think that's part of why he started Live at 347 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,200 Darrel's House, which is a great series. I love, you know, 348 00:25:55,319 --> 00:26:00,119 I can I can get lost in watching those online. But I think think 349 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,440 that I think that Daryl has always seen himself that way, and I think 350 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,559 he kind of resents, you know, when he does when he's done solo 351 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,880 albums, Like I remember when I was a kid, he released a solo 352 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,440 album called three hearts. In the Happy Ending Machine. There's a song called 353 00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:15,519 dream Time, which was the first single, which was a pretty big hit, 354 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:21,200 but not on the scale necessarily of of what Hall and Oates has accomplished. 355 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,359 Hall and Oates together they're the biggest selling duo in pop history, and 356 00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:30,920 I think Darryl kind of resents being tied to John in that way. That's 357 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:37,799 so sad, Yeah, it is. But that's my theory why because even 358 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:45,200 in interviews I remember, uh recently, I saw an interview that had resurfaced 359 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,960 from a couple of years ago where Daryl Hall is talking about Primary Wave owning 360 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:52,359 the publishing on a lot of their their material, and he refers to it 361 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,559 as my material. He doesn't say our material. He says, I don't 362 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,559 like I don't like this company that. You know, it seemed like a 363 00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:02,119 good idea at the time, but I don't like them owning all of my 364 00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:06,400 material. You know. It's he tends to talk like that, he tends 365 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,119 to refer to and it hasn't always been that way. Of course, back 366 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,559 in the day it wasn't that way. But I've noticed that over the past 367 00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:15,039 five or six years, he he almost talks about himself, you know, 368 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,000 unless John's name happens to come up like he's a solo artist. The other 369 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,400 thing I will say is Darryl. Don't get me wrong, I love Daryl 370 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,680 Hall, huge fan of his music, and the show Live at Darrel's House 371 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:32,319 is great and everything, but he has a reputation for being a little bit 372 00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:34,759 of a diva, whereas John Oates has a reputation for just being the salt 373 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:40,279 of the earth. The only person I've ever seen say anything negative about John 374 00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:45,519 Oates is Daryl Hall in recent days since this lawsuit was filed. Other than 375 00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:52,240 that, nobody's ever said a bad thing about John Oates. I also wonder 376 00:27:52,440 --> 00:28:00,000 is there some resentment on Darryl's part, because Darryl, if you hear him 377 00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:03,240 now, he can't sing like he used to. And that's fine. He's 378 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:07,920 seventy seven years old and your voice changes. But John Oates, if you 379 00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:12,440 go online, let me put it this way, if you go online and 380 00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:18,279 you listen to Darryl Hall singing recently, you might notice a change. He 381 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,720 still sounds great, Don't get me wrong, He's one of the greatest singers 382 00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:25,319 ever, but he still sounds really good. Can't take that away from him. 383 00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:29,720 But you can tell does a change, right, But if you go 384 00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:32,640 online and you find a show of a recent if you find a video of 385 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:41,559 a recent John Oates show, John Oates sounds incredible. And I remember finding 386 00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:45,240 a YouTube video of John Oates singing out of Touch, you know the song 387 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,880 out of Touch of John Oates singing it at one of his solo shows, 388 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:53,920 and somebody in the uh it is like somebody read my mind, because somebody 389 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,960 in the comments. I don't usually bother to look at the comments, but 390 00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:00,960 for some reason, on that one I did. Somebody actually commented on the 391 00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:03,799 video, Wow, John sings better than Darryl. Now. It used to 392 00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:10,599 be the other way around. And uh so I wonder if if Darryl resents 393 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,400 John for that too, because John's John's voice has clearly not diminished, whereas 394 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:21,640 Darryl's has, and Hall is actually actively touring as a solo act. They 395 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:30,519 both are Yeah, they both are well Oates. Hall accuses Oates of intentionally 396 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,119 trying to sell this stuff now to disrupt and make his life difficult. I 397 00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:38,799 saw that he's doing this. He's creating on necessity. He said, uh, 398 00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:44,359 not to mention unnecessary expense and burden during a time when I'm in the 399 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,759 middle of a tour through the US West Coast, Japan and Manila, Manila, 400 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,000 and need to focus and perform at a top level. I believe that 401 00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:59,960 John Oates timed the unauthorized transaction to create the most harm to me respect. 402 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:06,240 He must be stopped from this latest wrongdoing and his malicious conduct reined in once 403 00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:12,839 then for all. Wow wow, wow, No, that's hard. We 404 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,039 think these guys went to college together, they met at Temple University, they 405 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:22,640 became a band of the nineteen seventies. All this time, but they haven't 406 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:26,880 done anything in nearly two nearly two decades from what I've been reading up as 407 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,839 far as like doing anything more, it's been well, they tour, they've 408 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:36,920 they've toured together. The last time they actually put anything out together was it's 409 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,599 been nearly twenty years since they've done that. But it's sad to see this 410 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:48,480 long relationship devolve into this. But I can't blame I'm I'm kind of in 411 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:55,440 camp haul here because I can't blame him for not wanting a third party to 412 00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:59,839 have controlling interest of his work, right, you know, of their work. 413 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,440 I can see why that would be Really, I mean, what happens. 414 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,319 If they do it, could Hall legally be prohibited from playing music. 415 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:11,759 No, no, it doesn't work that way, but it would be. 416 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,960 The thing is, when somebody else owns your publishing, the publishing rights to 417 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:19,839 your music, and it's a big subject and I don't know all the ins 418 00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:23,119 and outs of it. I only know a little bit. But they decide 419 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:29,200 how it's used. So let's say, whoever owns your publishing, they want 420 00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:34,559 to sell your song to a car company to use in their commercial. Well, 421 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:40,079 if you, as the artist who wrote and recorded that song, you 422 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,519 know, if you own your publishing, you have a right to, you 423 00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,759 know, do whatever you want with it. But if somebody else owns your 424 00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:48,400 publishing, they have a right to do whatever they want with it. Yep. 425 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:55,039 Some of these artists who are selling their publishing. Springsteen did it, 426 00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:01,559 Neil Young did it. Neil Young claimed though, in his interview on Howard 427 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,640 Stern that when he sold off his publishing, because you know, they're cashing 428 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,079 out, they're getting huge sums of huge lump sums of money to sell off 429 00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:14,440 their publishing. Neil Young claims that in his agreement, I think it was 430 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:16,160 Neil Young who said this, or maybe it was David Crosby before he died, 431 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:22,279 said that in their agreement they still have veto power over how their music 432 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,640 is used, although that's not how it's supposed to work. So I wonder 433 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:31,519 if that was I wondered if that was true. But yeah, so Daryl 434 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:38,400 might be concerned about how their music is going to be used. And and 435 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:45,559 uh, if if it's true that John Oates violated that confidentiality agreement, then 436 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,279 that's a problem. Absolutely. I tend to be on team Oates though, 437 00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:53,519 team John because uh well, first of all, the mustache, oh, 438 00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:59,319 come on, truly one of the great mustache no, listen, listen, 439 00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:04,920 that is John Oates in the eighties. For you young gus who might not 440 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,079 know, you'll have to go back and look. Go to Google images, 441 00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:15,119 type in John Oates. He had a mustache that rivaled Tom Selleck. Uh 442 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,240 who else? It is a very Wilford Brimley. Yes, yes, it 443 00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:24,400 is not a reason I do not believe. And it inspired and it inspired 444 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:30,200 a cartoon J Stash Really yeah, I don't real, No, for real, 445 00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:34,160 there's a if you if you go on YouTube and look up j Stash, 446 00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:38,680 it's really funny. Is it just the Stash or is he his body. 447 00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:42,240 It's a whole thing. You gotta you gotta see it. It's really 448 00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:44,880 funny. When you had a chance, go on YouTube and look up J 449 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:51,640 Stash cartoon. It's really funny. It's really funny. Yeah, it was. 450 00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:52,720 It was a whole thing, and he was involved in it. He 451 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,599 provided the voice for it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, this was like 452 00:33:57,079 --> 00:34:00,599 fifteen years ago. Maybe it didn't go anywhere though, unfortunately. But uh 453 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,160 no, I mean just on just based on reputation, I mean, uh, 454 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,280 you know, John sounds like the much nicer person just generally. I 455 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,360 do find it hard to believe that he's doing any of this out of malice 456 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,639 to Daryl Hall. But again, I mean legally, if he's not supposed 457 00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:22,079 to share any confidential business information with Primary Wave and he did that, uh 458 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,559 then uh, you know, it's hard not to be on team Darryl, 459 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,840 I suppose. But Daryl does have a rep for being a bit of a 460 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,880 diva. I wonder did he I mean, did he did he have like 461 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,599 a first ride, a refusal or anything like that, you know what I 462 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:45,320 mean, Like, was there any effort to let him buy his himself instead 463 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,840 of selling it to the third party. Yeah, I don't know that would 464 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,159 make sense to me. Like, first, hey, buddy, do you 465 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,960 want it? You know, I'll sell it to you. I don't want 466 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,440 it anymore. I want the money I'll sell to you. Yeah. But 467 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,800 yeah, there's I mean, there's a lot that we still don't know, 468 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:06,159 but more details keep trickling out. What we do know is their their relationship 469 00:35:06,679 --> 00:35:10,440 feels like it's irretably they've lost that love and feeling. Yes, whoa that 470 00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:16,960 love and feeling? What's your favorite tarn Jronald's song? Uh, you know, 471 00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:21,559 it kind of changes. I mean, I think probably out of Touch 472 00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:24,159 is the one that I've listened to the most over the course of my life. 473 00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:29,119 I love Family Man, which at one point was famously banned here at 474 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,400 WM and H. Yeah, Peter did that, Peter White, Uh, 475 00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:37,039 not a family not a fan of Family Man. I'll tell you, it 476 00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:39,719 was a whole thing, you know what. I we had a lot of 477 00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:44,239 long, long time listeners might know about that. It's a lot to it's 478 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,519 a lot to explain. It was a whole bit that we It was one 479 00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:50,000 of those bits that sort of enveloped both this show and the Morning Show, 480 00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:51,519 and we had a lot of fun with it. It was a number of 481 00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:54,199 years ago now, But my one regret about that, I wish that it 482 00:35:54,280 --> 00:36:00,400 all happened around April first of that year, because I would have love to 483 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,320 have come in as an April fool's joke, come in to do my show 484 00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:06,000 and just play family Man for two hours. I think that would have been 485 00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:09,119 hilarious. But the timing of it didn't work out. It wasn't during the 486 00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:14,039 month of April or going into April that that all happened. But we had 487 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:21,159 a lot of fun the famous family Man saga. But the other thing about 488 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:29,519 this is I remember within the last year reading an interview with John Oates before 489 00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:31,519 all of this happened, where somebody asked him about, you know, do 490 00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:35,840 you guys ever fight? You guys ever argue and disagree over anything? And 491 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,199 he said, and Daryl Holland had said this too in the past, that 492 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:43,440 the two of them, in their five decades of working together, had never 493 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:47,800 had an actual argument. How can they be so distant? Now, then 494 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:52,480 I know, I don't buy it. Come on, oh, that they'd 495 00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:57,360 never had an argument? Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they had disagreements, 496 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,000 but but yeah, they both claimed that they'd never like actually yelled at 497 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,280 each other or stormed out of the studio or slamming doors or anything like that. 498 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,360 I could see that. I could see that, But it's just it 499 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:13,480 stinks that they're so far apart from one another now. And then what happens 500 00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:16,559 if it is allowed to be sold to the third party? Does that mean 501 00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:22,199 that third party will have the control over everything because it's not it. This 502 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,559 is their name, their logo, their music, it's everything about them. 503 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:34,559 Yeah, yeah, jeez. You know what's really sad too, is is 504 00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:38,039 this how they want to go out? I mean yeah, I mean just 505 00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:43,159 on a you know, putting everything else aside, just on a human level. 506 00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:45,960 I mean, Darryl Hall is seventy seven years old, John O, 507 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,840 It's is seventy five, and this is how it's gonna do it from nineteen 508 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,880 seventy. This is how it's gonna end. That that part is heartbreaking to 509 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,400 me. It is horrible. It is horrible. You know, all that 510 00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:04,719 success, the biggest selling duo of all time, and this is how it's 511 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,599 gonna end. And they like the nice guys in music, right, They're 512 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:12,199 the guys that you'd want to go listen to and relax and have fun and 513 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,719 joke around. They were the happy guys. Yeah, it's hard to see 514 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:22,159 these two like happy guys not so happy is you know, watching them growing 515 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,360 up? Their music, I mean it was it was always good music. 516 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,199 It was you know, it wasn't like, oh I kill something, it's 517 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,559 it was always good music, happy music, you know, loving music. 518 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:37,440 And they always seemed to be those those people. It's hard to see them 519 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,840 in this really negative, nasty light. Yeah, where they're just at each 520 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,880 other's throats, trying to hurt each other. Basically. Yeah, maybe they 521 00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:52,239 stayed together too long, maybe and grew to resent each other. Those people 522 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,599 do that relationships I've had. I had a relationship too long. So yeah, 523 00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:04,440 you sent me an article here from grunge to about this and well or 524 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,159 actually he also put it in the chairman. I clicked it and just kind 525 00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,239 of scrolling down. Yeah, this one just came out, This article I 526 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,400 just sent you from Grunge. Yeah, literally just came out within a few 527 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,280 hours. So it talks a lot about their career and whatnot. But then 528 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,159 it is scrolling down to the part where it talks about what's happened recently. 529 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,880 It says, here Daryl Hall also seemed to resent, and that's the word 530 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,280 that I used. I think he resents John Oates. He seemed to resent 531 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,719 what his partnership with John Oates represented. He told the La Times quote, 532 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,920 everything you do is juxtaposed against another person. Try doing that sometime. I 533 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,159 don't want to use the word emasculating, because that's mail, but it takes 534 00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:44,199 away your individuality unquote. Hal's annoyance at his lack of individuality could be why 535 00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:47,559 he hasn't worked together musically with Oates for a long time. He once again 536 00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:51,760 mentioned Oates on an episode of Club Random with Bill Maher. That's what I 537 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,840 was talking about earlier, saying, quote, he is my business partner, 538 00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:59,360 he's not my creative partner. We made records called Hall and Oates together, 539 00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:02,360 but we've always been very separate, and that's a really important thing for me 540 00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:08,199 unquote. Oates additionally clarified that the pair aren't close anymore. In twenty twenty 541 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,039 three, he told The Big Takeover quote, I think we have both grown 542 00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:17,320 apart professionally and personally. I think we both want to do something else unquote. 543 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,159 Then in November twenty twenty three, Hall filed the lawsuit against Oates. 544 00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:30,559 As reported, the lawsuit falls under the contract debt category, and it says 545 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,440 no further details have been released, but obviously something's happening out now. There 546 00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:38,039 is a temporary restraining already preventing the sale from occurring. Yeah. That was 547 00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:43,039 a weird thing too, because when this story first broke, everybody was like, 548 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,159 oh, everybody was like, you got a restraining order against John Oates? 549 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,280 Does he think John Oates is gonna come beat him up? And I 550 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,400 remember reading that and thinking, no, I think the restraining you know, 551 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,880 our restraining order legally, I mean, I'm not a legal expert, but 552 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,480 it has a their applications, like you're trying to prevent somebody from doing something, 553 00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:07,119 which is exactly what this restraining order is about, trying to prevent John 554 00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:13,639 Oates from completing this what has been deemed an unauthorized transaction. People. Yes, 555 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,079 it's in regards to some kind of violence, domestic violence or something like 556 00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:20,159 that, right, exactly necessarily, you know, but it applies in a 557 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,960 lot of places. But yeah, he so he cannot They cannot go forward 558 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,880 with the sale until this is resolved in court, or until the judge says 559 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,840 to heck with it. And lifts the restraining order. But I don't see 560 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,679 that happening. I think this is going to be a long drawn out court 561 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,199 battle, which is sad to say, but I think that's exactly what we're 562 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,280 what we're looking at. But uh, it's funny too with the restraining order 563 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,639 thing. And like I said, I I kind of sense that everyone was 564 00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:52,920 taking that the wrong way. But I also remember too, just coincidentally, 565 00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:55,840 this was from I've seen the clip on YouTube. This would have been from, 566 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,280 jeez, I don't know, at least fifteen years ago, but Darryl 567 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:06,280 Hall, he was a guest on the Howard Stern Show. And you know 568 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,239 how Howard is, He's always trying to trying to find the dirt and always 569 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,639 trying to be a little provocative. And he was asking Darryl, well, 570 00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:15,480 how come your partner's not here with you today? You don't like him? 571 00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:19,440 Do you? I bet you guys argue all the time, right, because 572 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,039 you're the talented one and he's just kind of the hanger on. And at 573 00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:24,760 that time, though, Darryl was like sticking up for John and he was 574 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:30,760 like, John's written a lot of our hit songs. But John, Darryl 575 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,119 also made a comment. Oh, because Howard asks Darryl, but you could 576 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,679 take him in a fight, right, you know you're taller, so you've 577 00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:39,480 got reach on him. You could take him in a fight. And Darryl 578 00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:43,440 says something about, well, you know, John was a wrestler in college, 579 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,079 he was on the wrestling team. You could probably kick my ass. 580 00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:50,599 So I just so I thought of that when I first saw about the restraining 581 00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:52,000 order. It's like, oh, maybe Darryl really is afraid of John Oates. 582 00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:55,039 But no, no, I would be afraid of the mustache because that 583 00:42:55,119 --> 00:43:00,960 could be a sentient being, much like I could be someday. But uh, 584 00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:06,599 yeah, it's uh, the whole thing is just just very sad, 585 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,159 very sad it is. But I mean it's a huge issue. It's it's 586 00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:17,320 a lifetime of work, a ginormous catalog. Isaac Banks says in the chat 587 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:24,480 room that his favorite song is Private Eyes by Holland Oates. Yes do you 588 00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:28,360 think, do you? Uh? There's someone that claims to have a list 589 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:34,400 here of Daryl Hall's five favorite Holland Oates songs. You get one if you 590 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,599 can guess. Well, I don't know if Daryl feels this way, but 591 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,800 I've heard John Oates say in multiple interviews, Oh wait, no, I'm 592 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,239 sorry, it was Daryl who said this. So She's Gone has to be 593 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:50,840 on the list because Darryl has said in interviews that that is the best song 594 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,159 that he and John Oates ever wrote together. Is is She's Gone? First? 595 00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:55,719 The first one on the list was She's Gone? Yeah, Yeah, 596 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,679 you want to take a stab at any of the others? What? What 597 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:08,119 else? Uh? Uh? His favorite? Uh? Yeah, It's hard 598 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,920 to guess his favorite wait for Me, maybe because he likes to really milk 599 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,079 that one when they do it live. M Oh god, I can't go 600 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:24,039 for that. Nope, I don't know. I give up it. They've 601 00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:30,639 got so much so the winning are the winning songs are one on one okay, 602 00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:36,400 Uh, you make My Dreams? Yeah, every Time you Go Away 603 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,960 Sarah smiles, Sarah smile, Yeah, Sarah smile smile. Sorry I pluralized 604 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,840 it. And then She's Gone. Those were the five songs listed as Daryl 605 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:51,400 Hall's favorite Holland Oats songs, Ah does That Surprise You? And no, 606 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,639 no, uh every time You Go Away. By the way, for anyone 607 00:44:55,679 --> 00:45:02,719 who doesn't remember that song, you I remember Paul Young's version of it. 608 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,400 Paul Young in the eighties did a cover of that and had a huge hit. 609 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:12,360 But that was actually a Hall and Oates song originally, and there I 610 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,920 don't did they ever actually record their Yeah, they must have recorded their version, 611 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,559 but there's also a live version. They also did it when they did 612 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,880 the live at the Apollo. They performed that live, and uh, I 613 00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:29,599 prefer I prefer Darryl seeing it. Isaac Banks says in the Gaman, my 614 00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:32,360 favorite song is I Can't go for that No can do by Hall and Oates. 615 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,960 He keeps changing his mind, he said, he said, yeah, 616 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,360 he said before it was Private Eyes. I wonder about this company, Primary 617 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,360 Wave, Like, how many catalogs do they own? Makes you wonder, 618 00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:49,519 Probably quite a few. We're kind of a collection they've got going. Yeah. 619 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,000 Yeah, it's big business. I'm curious. I wonder if I can 620 00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:58,400 find out any more about them. But a lot of these artists are cashing 621 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:05,079 out and just selling off their publishing. Oh boy. They also own Ray 622 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,000 Charles, Bob Marley, Whitney, Hughes, Bert Batarac, Smokey Robertson, 623 00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:15,400 and the Fourth Seasons, to name a few. Yeah. Since twenty sixteen, 624 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:21,239 apparently they Yeah, they're out there. Well, it's a very lucrative 625 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,039 part of music that doesn't get talked about that much publicly. Is all the 626 00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:27,800 royalty and the right side of it? Well, you know what the most 627 00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:32,079 infamous in the in modern musical history. You know what the most infamous example 628 00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:39,280 is right of somebody purchasing somebody's publishing Prince what do you mean, prince when 629 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,280 he changed his name? Oh no, no, no, no, When 630 00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:46,360 somebody purchasing the rights the publishing rights to somebody else's music. When Michael Jackson 631 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,039 bought the Beatles, you got it? Ha ha, yep, yep. 632 00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,960 And who owns that now? Because Michael passed away, do his kids own 633 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,840 it or did they sell it? I wonder they might? Yeah, because 634 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,599 he literally went up against it ruined the It ruined their friendship. Paul McCarthy 635 00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:07,159 wanted to buy the rights to his own music and Michael Jackson, I'll bit 636 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,159 him, yep. Was it wasn't it a Southerbys or something? It was 637 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,840 it was some kind of oxygen. Yeah, yeah, Well because hi, 638 00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:20,480 but you didn't think I'd guess it. Huh yeah, uh. Paul. 639 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,679 Paul McCartney was very bitter over that because he because he thought he thought Michael 640 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,840 Jackson was kidding. You know, they had had a hit song with say 641 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,880 and didn't they do? They have two hit songs together that they did. 642 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:37,519 But uh, Paul McCartney talks about a conversation he had had with Michael Jackson 643 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,199 where Michael Jackson said told him he was going to buy he was going to 644 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,079 buy his songs, he was going to buy the publishing of the Beatles, 645 00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:51,519 and McCartney thought he was kidding, and then it happened, And uh, 646 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,039 I think that. I don't. I don't know if they ever spoke to 647 00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:59,760 each other again, well, I wouldn't want to. Yeah to me, 648 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,280 my buddy, how do you run? Do you buy my music out from 649 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,920 under me? That's crazy? It is, it's crazy. But you know, 650 00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:12,159 companies like Primary Wave cat they're getting quite the catalog. So yeah, 651 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,400 I don't know how I feel about that. I like artists owning their own 652 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,280 stuff, you know, but yeah, but if they want to sell it, 653 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,719 sell it. Yeah, It's just I don't know. I think John 654 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,280 Oates is saying it, I'm going to cash out, you know. I 655 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,639 mean again, these guys are you know, It's not like he's going to 656 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,679 pass it down, you know what I mean, Like, well, well, 657 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:36,480 yeah, no he could. I mean, but it's not like there's 658 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,719 going to be any more creativity coming out of it, I think, is 659 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,000 where I'm kind of trying to go from. It's like, you know, 660 00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:44,440 when these guys are gone, it's gone, it's over. It doesn't continue. 661 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,039 So maybe he just wants to put a put a period in it and 662 00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:53,280 walk away. Yeah, but I don't blame Hall for being worried about somebody 663 00:48:53,320 --> 00:49:01,239 else having the right to do sell chicken to their music, right. Yeah, 664 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,639 trying to think of what what hallan Oats song would go well in a 665 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:13,519 KFC ad, but nothing comes to mind. Uh. I can't go for 666 00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:16,760 that, No, because because they want you to buy their chick to go 667 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,719 for it. Yeah, yeah, they can't do that. I won't go 668 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,400 for it. Maybe wait for me, you think, Yeah, because you 669 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,840 know if you're saying, oh, you're going to KFC, wait for me, 670 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,159 Wait for me, please, I want some of that fried chicken. 671 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,679 No, no, no, I can't sing it like Daryl Hall does. 672 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,079 Of course, Daryl Hall can't sing it like Daryl Hall does either anymore. 673 00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:46,159 But John oatescan and Darryl resents that apparently deal. There will be more to 674 00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:50,039 come out of these two. I suspect that this is not going to be 675 00:49:50,320 --> 00:50:00,400 a quickly resolved issue. I see this being ugly long court battle. Yeah, 676 00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:02,440 it's very sad. It comes out with no winners, very sad. 677 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,079 It's a shame. Come on, can't we all get get along kumbaya moment? 678 00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:13,159 Well, dang it, there's our dang it, there's our eulogy for 679 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,800 the great uh Daryl Hall team of Darryl Hall and John Oates. All right, 680 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:21,239 we got a oats you love it? I love it? I don't 681 00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:27,440 all it's the worst album, worst album title ever. It's their company name 682 00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:30,840 too. By the way, have you ever noticed some of their albums. 683 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:37,480 They they don't even say Some of them say Daryl Hall and John Oates. 684 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,880 Some of them don't. Some of them say Daryl Hall, John Oates, 685 00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:45,039 without the without the end. I wonder if that's Darryl's doing. Maybe that 686 00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:49,039 was when the split started. Did you figure out when that was? What 687 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,360 year? Did they drop the end well or did they ever use the end 688 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,159 again afterwards? It it came and went like I'm looking at the cover of 689 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,599 H two O and it just says Daryl Hall John Oates. But that was 690 00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,039 an early one because we are going to close with a Family Man, which 691 00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:06,760 Oh, I'm looking at the same cover which was on the al. There's 692 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,840 another one that has a plus sign. Oh really, yeah, I'm looking 693 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,400 at the cover of the single for Family Man. It just says Darryl Hall 694 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,320 John o It says no end or plus or is that the one that has 695 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:21,760 like the yellow and red star behind it? There's no star, but I 696 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,760 don't know any anyway, Well, it doesn't matter. We gotta go. 697 00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:28,199 Ok, we are out of time. Thank you, Jenny. Do you 698 00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:30,880 want to plug your website? Oh? Sure, you want to check out 699 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,800 what I'm up to or check out any of my paintings, go to Gencoffee 700 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,400 dot com j E N N C O f f uy dot com. Or 701 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:42,480 I also publish my illuminating articles. Yes, and thank you again to a 702 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:46,159 Glittertooth for coming in that great. That was fantastic great. And if you 703 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,320 think you know somebody that we should know about, drop us a line. 704 00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:54,559 He's looking for other artists from all walks of life. Yes, and uh, 705 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,239 thank you again to our friend Eric Pilcher for another great classic film review. 706 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,119 And if you if you miss any part of today's show. It will 707 00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:06,480 be up in just a little bit at wmnhradio dot org at my website Matt 708 00:52:06,519 --> 00:52:10,119 Connorton dot com. And we will see you next Saturday. And don't forget 709 00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:15,320 this Wednesday, coming right up a miracle on Elm Street at the bonfire and 710 00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:21,000 the morning show will be I think they're doing. I don't know how long 711 00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:23,519 they're gonna be live there, but they'll be there, and I'm not exactly 712 00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:25,519 sure, but yeah, you should get down and say hi to the guys. 713 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:32,880 Absolutely, we'll bring an unwrapped toy or gift for a child to have 714 00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:37,679 here in Manchester. Everything they're doing is staying right here in the Queen City, 715 00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:42,760 helping out kiddos locally, So please help out, please donate, and 716 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,679 we hope to see you at the bonfire next Wednesday. All right, and 717 00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:49,639 we're out. We'll talk to y'all a little bit later, everybody. Bye bye,