WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:31.519 You. We' re here, we' re here, we' re 2 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:33.560 here, we' re here to talk about Madonna, women leaving tracks, 3 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:34.600 and I' m here to see him. But at the end of the 4 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:38.920 day, at the end of the day, welcome, today Tuesday 16th July, 5 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:45.600 welcome, Dr Amel Hello, how good afternoon, how are you? 6 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:51.520 All right, very well hear welcome, dear Efra Hello, girls, how 7 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:55.679 are you happy to come by to see chapter three of women leaving a mark 8 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:59.280 of Madonna, who we had invited to the valley, run, run to 9 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:02.640 see them and give her a lot of love. I' ve talked to 10 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:08.480 Luquita, I' m sorry, yes, let him see all the carmen 11 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:17.480 happy day. Today I hadn' t forgotten, but well, I' 12 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:21.920 m congratulating my nephew, because I had forgotten that even now I said happy 13 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:29.040 day forgiveness. So this was a very important impression to make it that it 14 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:32.400 is has left me. So, welcome, everyone, excuse this interruption. 15 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:36.239 So, congratulations to all Carmen Armendaris carmens, of course, our lady of 16 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:41.439 Carmen, today there in Mexico, And well let' s start with today 17 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:46.799 ' s program, because what happens hears, what a strong photo, so 18 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:52.719 impressive, everything that is happening with Camilo Blanes, Camilo Blanes Junior, Camilo 19 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:59.680 Blanes Junior, to see wait is uploading the photo, because we have already 20 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:04.040 seen it. We' ve done shows here about the celebrities' children. 21 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:09.280 How Tristan, Jair' s son, has recovered, which is to be 22 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:14.159 celebrated, which is good, other children who have had less luck, But 23 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:16.680 here the thing is that he doesn' t listen to his mother, He 24 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:20.960 doesn' t have a good relationship with his mother, but and his father 25 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:25.039 is dead and has left a lot of money to this young man who has 26 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.719 his house open for them to come in a lot. They' ve stolen 27 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:31.840 him, they' ve done everything and now he presents this one with this 28 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:37.280 photo, with those legs totally bruised. No, but at most very decadent 29 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:43.199 Camilo Blanes, Camilo Sesto Junior or Camilo Blandes Junior, how you see it. 30 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:46.560 Oh, well, very sad. No, and above all, that 31 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:53.719 as he publishes himself in these photographs and in these daring images means that he 32 00:02:53.439 --> 00:03:00.520 has no conscience, disease or any kind of problem, but as if he 33 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:07.199 thought that he is well, that he feels very well. And that' 34 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:15.479 s why, because it shows, I tell you how even posing in a 35 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:19.919 kind of debacle that has nothing to do with it, because I don' 36 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:23.479 t want to give this impression that it has nothing to do with the fact 37 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:24.919 that now I have decided to dress in women' s clothes or what he 38 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:30.520 wants to do. That is not the point, but these erratic behaviors the 39 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:35.199 face, when there are also photographs of his face that have completely destroyed teeth, 40 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:38.840 that this is a classic sign that speaks to us. And surely Ephraim 41 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:44.639 too, because he will know better is called consumption results of certain substances. 42 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:47.680 It' s the problem. It does a lot of damage, they do 43 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:51.759 a lot of damage. Problem is the physical deterioration we' ve been seeing. 44 00:03:52.800 --> 00:04:00.360 But parallel to his mental deterioration is that we return to the dangerous trance, 45 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:02.599 he' s identical to us, so it can be closed, so 46 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:05.919 it' s frog. You don' t frog, you can' t 47 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:10.400 be a frog, but let it be a ra if you want to manifest 48 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:12.800 as a frog, which manifests itself as a rapacious one. We haven' 49 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.560 t seen those crazy cases before, the one that feels like kitty and doggy. 50 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:17.360 No. No, I don' t, I don' t, 51 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:18.680 I don' t, I don' t, I don' t, 52 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:18.680 they don' t, they don' t, they don' t, 53 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:18.680 they don' t, they don' t, they don' t, 54 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:18.680 they don' t, they don' t, they don' t, 55 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:18.680 they don' t, they don' t, they don' t, 56 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:18.680 they don' t, they don' t, they don' t, 57 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:18.680 they don' t, they don' t, they don' t, 58 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:18.680 they don' t, they don' t, they don' t, 59 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:18.680 they don' t, they don' t, they don' t, 60 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:18.680 they don' t, they don' t, they don' t, 61 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:18.680 they don' t, they don' t, they don' t, 62 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:19.600 they don' t, they don' t. No, and like the 63 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:23.600 woman you want to be horses. No, I' m not sure. 64 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:28.079 No. Before, it was before, it was something that was said as 65 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:29.759 a metaphor for forgiveness. The problem is, it' s real. Then 66 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:31.959 it can be whatever you want from your human life. He' s a 67 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.879 pain in making a boxer, that is, he can do what' s 68 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:39.040 not happening. And yet, he is in absolute freedom to do with his 69 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:45.839 life. Still terrible, but that' s freedom, he' s decided 70 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:47.560 to destroy his life and he' s gone the way of self- destruction. 71 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:51.120 That' s what he' s doing. It is regrettable, because 72 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:55.480 indeed, he makes it public, because he is the son of an idol, 73 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:59.720 because he is the son of a great figure that we all know he 74 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:03.720 inherited, for all his father' s gifts, plus the fortune that she 75 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:06.279 had and is destroying. I believe that is the great concern as a person, 76 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:12.639 as a human being Ephraim and to separate, not exactly separate, this 77 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:15.240 issue of him being behind with whom he is destroying himself, that is, 78 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:17.639 because it is the same thing that happens with Paola. It' s got 79 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:23.040 nothing to do with me being involved with the issue of me messing up things, 80 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.959 that it' s wrong, that it' s sad, that it 81 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:30.199 comes from a very complicated childhood where he saw his dad because he said he 82 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.519 saw him separated, he says woman and stuff so I don' t want 83 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:36.920 to put you down because then you talk about more and I' m not 84 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:42.560 there. We talked about what he said. If that can affect him, 85 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:46.439 because there' s a real factor. I mean, there are childhood issues 86 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.680 that do shock us, and here' s someone who' s shocked by 87 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:53.319 a matter of some dads who never gave him what they had to give him. 88 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:55.639 I mean, it' s wrong to date. The bottom line is 89 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:59.319 that you' re not, I mean, you' re right, absolutely 90 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.240 right, but the origin is also a huge loneliness, because the mom is 91 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:06.199 separated from the mom, she' s taken away, the mom' s 92 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:10.720 taken away, the dad gives the mom a distant life, I mean, 93 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:16.519 I think she' s a very lonely person. Yes, indeed that because 94 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:20.959 from the beginning their story is turbulent, because, besides, the way they 95 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:27.120 take everything that came out, many of us remember as something very far away. 96 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:30.720 But there was this whole lawsuit and yes, Lucia Mendes was helping the 97 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:34.560 mom because the mom had worked with her or knew her for some reason they 98 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:38.600 would come and go and return it to her and I didn' t know 99 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:41.319 it. You were. The problem is that here what seems to be happening 100 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:45.600 because and it caught my attention when you said, he claims that he saw 101 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.199 his dad, that he dressed as a woman and that kind of impacted him, 102 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:54.120 and that' s why he broke down. And I doubt it was 103 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:59.600 that alone. Yeah, I think that' s not your motive enough. 104 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:01.279 No. I think it is, as you say melo, a set of 105 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:13.000 things that is surely seen between the abandonment and others continued yes and what you 106 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:18.920 can think. I don' t know I' m freezing, no or 107 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:24.079 yes, no good, well, I' m sorry I see it then 108 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:24.959 or it' s freezing to a lupita, but good. The fact is 109 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:30.480 that yes this revelation, what it could make think and how well you say 110 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:33.560 and all that we say here with all peace, are mere hypotheses from what 111 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:39.839 we see and what they tell us. They might be if he saw his 112 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:45.240 dad dress up as a woman, but he doesn' t give him any 113 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:46.399 explanation, he doesn' t tell him Look, I like that. In 114 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:51.399 other words, there is not something that makes you understand why you do it. 115 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:59.160 It means there was probably an oversight in other areas. So it' 116 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:03.879 s nothing more than that he tells us that he saw one thing or that 117 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.959 he saw another, but that what he remembers seeing can be a bit of 118 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.920 many other things that he saw, lived and so on, and that it 119 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.920 seems that, in fact, the dad took it away so as not to 120 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.439 take care of it, that is, he didn' t take it to 121 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:20.560 form it, to keep an eye on it. He took it because he 122 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:26.120 wanted to have it with him in his style, that is solitude, that 123 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:31.919 there was no containment, that there was no good, a good set of 124 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:37.279 inculcated values, among which the very first value would be life, and life 125 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.080 is cared for by caring. Of course I think he' s actually taking 126 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:46.360 it. Then I think he' s teaching that point where you comment is 127 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:48.279 like a part, but for him. For him it' s like something 128 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:52.759 that means a lot of exact things, it' s like a trophy is 129 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.519 how he takes it to Camilos this as a trophy as a prize, an 130 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:00.240 exa thing, because Camilo knew this at that time was super successful. He 131 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:01.480 had the world at his feet. Well, I also have a son, 132 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:05.399 which is the only way I' m gonna have him, period. But 133 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:09.679 I think that, on top of that, you may have actually seen a 134 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:16.600 lot of things and whatever that is wouldn' t be so serious if I 135 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.480 think that and it happens very often that a dad who is so successful, 136 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:28.440 who is so big, overwhelms you and it' s very likely that Camilo 137 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:33.240 Blanes, second or junior, or whatever, Camilos of this junior, feels 138 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:39.120 a lot less than his dad impossible to reach those levels, because they made 139 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.600 their debut because they sing very nice, because the voice is very similar to 140 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:43.159 his dad' s, because it could have gone well. But they know 141 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:48.240 that, for example, there is a case like Alexander Hacha with Emmanuel, 142 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:52.519 who have a very similar voice. Alexandra Cha is very polite, she is 143 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:54.919 very handsome and everything and she has not succeeded or taken off like Emmanuel in 144 00:09:54.919 --> 00:10:01.320 any way. But the difference is that Alexandra has a very solid family, 145 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:05.879 she has a very strong containment network, she has other suitable ones. I 146 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:09.159 mean, while I' m not the superstar who was in Dad in fame 147 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:13.679 and so on, I' m talented, I do have my own accomplishments 148 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:18.039 and I do have self- esteem and family support. Here' s what 149 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:22.240 happens is that this white camel sees a super successful, full, jammed dad 150 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.159 that millions of people follow him. He' s trying to raid, but 151 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:30.080 he' s never gonna make it He' s never gonna be able to 152 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:31.559 be half of what his dad' s been, because he' d always 153 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.039 be a copy of him. And I think that limits it and that hurts 154 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:37.200 him a lot and that' s where it comes from, I mean, 155 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:43.480 I' m never gonna be able to be and the key is what you 156 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:46.960 ' re saying. Indeed, that there has been a family here can contain 157 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:54.120 and that can even guide the person then to look for other paths, in 158 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.879 other spaces or in other areas and develop and do his family, as Alexander 159 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:03.960 did. And now that you have just done or good that you are doing 160 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:09.000 in women, leaving those Madonna specials, because I thought what more overwhelming personality 161 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:13.039 than Madonna and Madonna has an older daughter, we already know that later she 162 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:18.039 had other children that well, she had a biological one and I think she 163 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:22.159 adopted, but her older daughter, Lourdes, who is the first daughter, 164 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:26.320 because something did good Madonna, being the superstar that is and living in this 165 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:31.320 world and with the image so strong that Madonna has and so contentious, also 166 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:37.679 so controversial that as far as we know, this daughter, because she grew 167 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:39.080 well. Today she must be a young woman in her thirties. I think 168 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:43.600 as far as we know, it' s fine. All of a sudden, 169 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.080 modeling. Then I don' t know what he does his things, 170 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:50.960 he does his life, but he doesn' t see that he' s 171 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.639 in conditions like the ones that this hote is and doesn' t have any. 172 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:54.840 He had no containment network, he doesn' t have a support network. 173 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:58.120 For love, he' s always been far away. His mom' 174 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.039 s always been away. He died. Dad doesn' t have one, 175 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:03.480 he didn' t have one to support it. And then all I can 176 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.960 do is control my own life and keep controlling my own life. I want 177 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:09.919 to destroy myself, because it' s my business and tell me what you 178 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:15.000 want. He' s going to keep making a point, because I can, 179 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:20.200 because I have the money, because this is me walking with my strong 180 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.080 power. No. Britney, as a prince, yes, but Britney is 181 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.879 not heiress. Here' s a big difference. Brittin is no one' 182 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:31.720 s heir. Britney has his own talent. And if Britney wants to go 183 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.519 to Vegas right now and sing, he' s gonna make millions of dollars 184 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:39.519 and get them back. It' s not him, it' s not 185 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:41.480 the big star. He' s never been the big star. Britnis if 186 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.799 it' s her for herself. No, then here' s the difference. 187 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:50.080 We could talk about any other child that' s going through. There 188 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.240 ' s a lot of kids who feel beat up. And the son of 189 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:56.559 Julio Cesar Chavez, as easy as that to want to pursue the same career 190 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:00.759 as his father as a boxer. But he' s not the great champion. 191 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:03.679 You' re, Julio is, although you' re talented, but 192 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:07.000 you' re not, and then you start a road of self- destruction 193 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.000 that' s already well, that' s recovered and it' s coming 194 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.759 through and you' ve understood everything. But that' s like having a 195 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:16.759 very big figure on top of you. So, if you have parents like 196 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.559 Lucero and my jars, then you can have a little light. But if 197 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.639 not, the key will be containment. The key is the education you have 198 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:28.039 in self- esteem that you have in the containment network, that you have 199 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.600 in the family the support and how you have grown. That' s not 200 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:37.039 it. I believe that it is important the attention, the attention that was 201 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:41.559 given during the development and during the growth of a teenager to become an adult, 202 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.159 to tolerate frustration, to tolerate comparison, to find his own way and 203 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:52.080 so on, that he is not the child of but that he is himself. 204 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:54.240 And here' s what I think weighs him to walk a very sad 205 00:13:54.720 --> 00:14:01.120 story, no doubt very sad. Hey and good to see what has happened 206 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:05.480 with these feminists Efraín, these feminists who want already we have already seen that 207 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:13.559 they have cancelled the show to Temach in Guanajuato and now they are looking to 208 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:18.759 cancel it also again and they think they want to cancel it again from the 209 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.279 Temach in Queretaro. Now in Queretaro he' s going to introduce himself, 210 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.759 he' s leaving because he still doesn' t cancel this one in the 211 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:30.679 city theater. Not then were they looking and the feminist collective said no. 212 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:33.240 We don' t want him here and they justified him in their words. 213 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:37.840 This is a public space, of the Municipal Culture Secretariat, and it is 214 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:41.039 hoped that the place will guarantee equality, inclusion and reject violence and discrimination. 215 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:48.679 And then someone said good is that freedom of speech and so on is at 216 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:52.720 stake. The point is that the temoch does have hate speech, and then 217 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:58.039 we would have to have a very broad discussion of what a hate speech is. 218 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:03.000 But all his fair measure. I mean, when people are going to 219 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.879 follow me to Hitler, because I didn' t think it was going to 220 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:07.279 be the mess that that was. I mean, people said no. He 221 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:13.600 has the truth and he loves us Germans and so he ended it. But 222 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:16.799 not in a slaughterhouse then. The point with the Temach is that that' 223 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:20.679 s why the wisdoms say you have to start limiting now I don' t 224 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:24.519 know what you think of girls. I think he has the right to keep 225 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.799 doing his show, because it' s a reality, that is, he 226 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.200 has no right to generate hate speech. What could be done, because starting 227 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:35.039 to decant in his show to say this you can say, this cannot say 228 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:37.360 that they review what he will say, he will not say above all if 229 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:43.919 it is going to be a place that is part of the Secretariat of Culture 230 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.200 in Querétaro or that is part of the State, that is, he could 231 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:50.440 not go to say hate speeches. The point is that in temach I try 232 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.279 every month to get a shine out of it. I mean, I' 233 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:56.799 m gonna rescue something from here. I' m sure of one good thing, 234 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:03.960 no, no other, you don' t find anything. Then people 235 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:07.240 are very angry, because there are those who say they are already censoring it 236 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:11.399 and those who say it is necessary to start limiting hate speech. I, 237 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:15.000 in particular, believe that at a time of so much violence and so much 238 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:18.320 confusion, where there is so much information and now what we have to sing 239 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:22.320 to see what information is real, what is real, what is right and 240 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:26.759 what is wrong, because before we have information. Yes, we have to 241 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:32.639 start as we do, to generate these blocks to stop the violence and the 242 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:36.399 gender belenza more, because what the temach does is normalize what has been done 243 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:40.039 to women for years, that is, it' s creepy the fact that 244 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:42.960 the day women are designed to go out, yes, that is, to 245 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:48.879 see what backs up and, as you say, if the intention is to 246 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:56.799 show up in a public space. I believe that it belongs to or depends 247 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:04.240 on the State, because it is paradoxical that the struggle that has been so 248 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:10.400 much demanded and has been insisted on by the citizens towards the Government, that 249 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:14.880 it gives support to women when they are raped, when they are segregated, 250 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.119 when they are not given the same rights, the same wages and so on, 251 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:22.880 that in a space of that a spectacle like this is presented. No 252 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:29.799 or a dissertation of this nature, yes, it is something that would not 253 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:32.480 be very congruent and I think that from there is where the protest is. 254 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:36.480 Not exactly like what they' ve already said. As you say, the 255 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:41.960 followers of our freedom, freedom of expression, are curtailed. You have the 256 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:44.279 right to say what you want and listen to what you want. Yeah, 257 00:17:44.759 --> 00:17:47.920 but I think that' s where this congruence would go wrong. When it 258 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:52.480 comes to something very important like this kind of hate speech. I am also 259 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.279 clear that in the site Lodio Mira says Magdalena Orozco, but feminists also have 260 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:00.599 a hate speech and are not tolerant. They' re the same to me. 261 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:02.920 Feminists say there shouldn' t be men. It' s not the 262 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:04.599 same. I don' t think so. I think Magdalena means an extreme, 263 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:10.240 a radical thing, which is the same thing. It would be the 264 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:15.839 same as male, a radical part of misogyny and feminism. And it' 265 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:19.920 s the feminazis, for example, no, but I think that what feminism 266 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:26.400 seeks gives you more equal conditions in the healthy way, not equal wages, 267 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:32.200 equal conditions that housework is distributed in an equitable way, that a woman can 268 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:36.799 go out on the street without any problems. I think that refers now, 269 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:40.359 when you go to the east end, because you are already radical beings. 270 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:45.119 If you couldn' t call it feminism, it would be something else. 271 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:48.119 And what temach does is go back, that is, if women have to 272 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.680 take care of women they like to be raped. That' s not right, 273 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:55.559 because that' s a lie, because it' s not. I 274 00:18:55.599 --> 00:19:00.160 mean, you can' t talk You can' t tell anyone who' 275 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:04.000 s not a woman. What a woman wants is absurd. Besides, it 276 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:07.720 ' s absurd, I mean, at what point you were a woman to 277 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:11.160 know what a woman wants. So it' s absurd, starting from there. 278 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:15.640 It' s not the other age I was telling you about the other 279 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:17.759 day. I can' t understand bringing women in because I' m not 280 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.720 a woman and this name isn' t feminazis. It has a real anthropological 281 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:26.519 name. It exists, it is called embrism and the subject is not feminism. 282 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:30.839 Sano is a father, that is, men can be allies of feminism 283 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:36.799 and we can support it, not by supporting bollocks like Mr Temach, but 284 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:38.000 embrism I will not support it either. No, obviously, this thing about 285 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:45.000 being hit by men is not feminists, they do have one thing that' 286 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:49.079 s real and fair and go there' s no point of comparison. Not 287 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:56.480 embrism, which is antagonistic, machismo chacha here all and if we stop for 288 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.480 hate speech. Look carefully at what match is, because he was telling me 289 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:03.440 the last time we talked about it. Ah, Ephraim, they are now 290 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.599 curtailing the freedom of pressure. The more you think, the reflection for our 291 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:14.319 public would be that a person can have a hate speech based on their freedom 292 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:17.880 of expression. I don' t think so. Besides, I' m 293 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:22.000 going to tell you one thing like there may be a very thin line between 294 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:27.200 freedom of expression and being saying a hate speech. He' s not here. 295 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:32.119 The problem is that what you say, not all people are going to 296 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:36.079 get it the same way. So you' re reminding me. I saw 297 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:41.160 this note. Thank you Shi, because indeed, now that there was a 298 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:48.799 dramatic question with a person, a woman, a teenager who asks for a 299 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:55.680 didi in Mexicali And then this man who ends his life, because he was 300 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:57.119 a follower of tache, then he may not. You can' t blame 301 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:02.279 yourself, but you don' t have to understand that not everyone is going 302 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:04.160 to process that kind of message. No, I mean, he didn' 303 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:07.000 t encourage this man to be a thing like the one he did. But 304 00:21:08.319 --> 00:21:11.880 yes, he told you that women like the violence they are worth less than 305 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:15.559 they have to serve you. That' s the problem, rather than hate 306 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:19.160 speech, it' s like a devaluation of women. That' s what 307 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:26.200 I feel. It' s not that you' re afraid of machisms for 308 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:30.880 those we live with, no, that' s the dicromachisms we live with, 309 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:32.480 that' s why women are less listened to than men. That' 310 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:37.079 s a reality, I mean, women heard you men too. So, 311 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:41.119 so it is in society and it is not named, i e here I 312 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:44.799 am between two beauties and Lupita has, because teams of the few men we 313 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:47.839 are here. But the factor, actually, is that this is a team 314 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:49.960 of how many, that is, in all the teams of me I have 315 00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:55.440 worked, there are three girls and eighty- four men the reality and besides, 316 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:57.319 they earn more, besides, they earn more. This is the world. 317 00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:00.400 That' s the world, that' s the reality. I had 318 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:03.319 some girls going on while we were either two teachers, we did the same 319 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:08.440 thing and once in a Catholic school women earned a lot less than men. 320 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:14.839 Real exact real. It' s terrible. It' s terrible. So 321 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:18.640 listen, there are issues that a group of feminists are asking you not to 322 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:23.640 let him present himself because, yes, his speech is a little, this 323 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.160 retrograde, the truth and good. And, on the other hand, we 324 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:32.200 talked yesterday about Marifer Centeno, who, then, was questioned, dismembered his 325 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:37.039 program with respect to diet and graphology and lost weight writing with blue and letters 326 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:44.480 long or large or some. I remember what it was like, but the 327 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:51.200 formula for weight loss based and based on graphology. Then Mr Doctor says that 328 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:53.359 ' s a charlatanism. That' s not true, that doesn' t 329 00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:59.599 exist. And, well, I believe in the part that I still believe. 330 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:04.119 If we consider that what a Marifer Centeno does is a style of entertainment, 331 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:08.319 it is very valid at the time that she says that she is scientific 332 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:14.039 and that this part of science and that because she was going to see it 333 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:18.079 said that graphology is part of psychology on the subject, because I got into 334 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:22.519 the UNAM agenda, of the National Autonomous University of Mexico and, of course, 335 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:27.960 that in no special good, neither in the bachelor' s degree nor 336 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:33.799 in specialty does graffiti appear as a matter. It appears as there is a 337 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:38.759 matter that is the design of instruments, that there you could design an instrument, 338 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:42.480 but from there to that graphology is a matter that there is in psychology, 339 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:47.240 that does not exist. On the other hand, I think it presents 340 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:51.839 itself today. She also presents today Marifer Centeno something I don' t know 341 00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:56.519 if it' s a tiktok or something, but she dressed like a sailor, 342 00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:59.480 I don' t know. I don' t know how he' 343 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:03.119 s going to defend or what Marifer Cente has said not with regard to what 344 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:08.920 ' s going on with what' s going on, because he comes to 345 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:14.960 do his job, because in the end he' s been very questioned by 346 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:15.400 many people and in a very valid way, because he' s not there. 347 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:18.440 I don' t think this is a personal attack. I don' 348 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:22.839 t think maybe, like you did yesterday mel yes, maybe it was very 349 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:26.160 hard for the doctor to talk to her in the terms he used to refer 350 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:33.079 to Marifer, because they were strong. But maybe he did it a little 351 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:37.400 personal by now. But because the questions were not, they have not been 352 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:41.200 resolved. As I understand it, how do you see it, don' 353 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:45.000 t look. Yeah, I was struck by the fact that she was on 354 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:51.920 a couple of shows, but basically she refused to talk about it. He 355 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:56.519 said he didn' t have time in the first place and couldn' t 356 00:24:56.519 --> 00:25:00.799 see the show. More like the presentation of the Mr Two and that' 357 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.240 s why I couldn' t say anything. He also said that he did 358 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:07.319 not know him, which is striking, because he showed a very brief conversation 359 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:11.680 that they had, but where she writes to him to tell him that, 360 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:15.119 with much respect, I do not know what he means. And then, 361 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:22.119 I don' t mean, in fact, there' s a part of 362 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:23.000 the little man where he tells him how I know you don' t want 363 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:26.640 to talk about it. That' s not what I' m going to 364 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:29.440 ask you, but tell us, how' s your office going that was 365 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:30.519 looted and I don' t know what. Then he' s not gonna 366 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.599 talk about it anymore. It did catch my eye. I believe and look, 367 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:42.160 I' m not special. Now you do, you freeze, but 368 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:45.599 now you' re as good as I have. Yes, yes, yes, 369 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.279 but there we are, here, we are going to read here, 370 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.839 tells Jorge Carvajal told him that he was still considering replying to Mr Doctor. 371 00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:57.559 I think his silence is worse. Says Jorge Carvajal. He talked to Marifer 372 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:02.559 and told him he studied law law. However, what Mr Doctor presents is 373 00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:11.039 not a Naucalpan tech. That' s what Mr Doctor presented as a professional 374 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.319 card and Jorge told him that he studied law- free, which is one 375 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:21.000 of the best or one of the best universities to study law in this country. 376 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:29.200 It' s good. Then the doctor says it' s hard and 377 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:30.960 kind of rude. Even if you' re right, you have to take 378 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:36.200 it seriously. Marifera talks about graphology and it' s just psychotic entertainment, 379 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:38.799 but Marifernos doesn' t say it' s just entertainment. She claims it 380 00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:47.119 ' s a science. She signs and makes observations, talking about neurobiology, 381 00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:52.759 talking about psychology, talking about nutrition and a lot of things, but well, 382 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:56.599 keep me going. Yeah, and I had to get out and get 383 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:56.960 in I hope I don' t freeze anymore. Okay. The point is, 384 00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:02.480 she doesn' t say much. He was also with Inés Moreno. 385 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:04.359 He said he didn' t want to go into controversy and he didn' 386 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:07.440 t have the time because he hadn' t seen anything he said, Mr 387 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:11.519 Doctor. But later she was also with Ana María Alvarado, who also did 388 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.279 a little bit to me. That' s how he gets the attention he 389 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.839 says. I' m very busy. I can' t see what this 390 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.400 doctor said about me, but he was in several programs, that is, 391 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:26.279 I say for the time being I saw her with Ana Maria, with the 392 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:32.079 little man and with Ines Moreno, and in none of these cases he meant 393 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:37.079 beyond. However, it seems to me that already with Ana MaríaÁlvarado he 394 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.240 did say a couple of other things in which he continues to insist and says 395 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:45.039 that graphology is a branch of psychology, which is not what he intends to 396 00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:52.519 equate, because I too have been looking for some of the arguments they use 397 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.480 or why they give this impression or want to give this impression. And it 398 00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:59.319 is because, then, what she has always said that through the ways of 399 00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:04.839 living one can detect certain personality traits. You can believe that or not. 400 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:10.839 As you said in entertainment matters, someone could use it as one more element 401 00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:15.440 if they wanted to, but that doesn' t make it a branch of 402 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:19.240 psychology and much less a therapeutic method, because something that is studied in a 403 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.960 few months or I don' t know how long it lasts two hours. 404 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:29.200 Every time I don' t know how much she doesn' t empower you 405 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:32.960 to be my psychologist, because she' s talking about a psychological branch, 406 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:34.920 let alone a therapist. That' s why I think that' s why 407 00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:38.000 this idea is that personality traits are detected. Yes, but in a way 408 00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:44.359 I said it yesterday probably very partial, very general, very shallow, and 409 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:48.960 I also read that good has the effect that some people who like this type 410 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:55.000 of graphology have in the same way they like it. And I say that 411 00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:59.000 also in peace. We' ve been talking about horoscopes and all that stuff 412 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:02.160 here. It' s because it has these traits that I' m not 413 00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:03.799 going to use any kind of technical language which it does, and I think 414 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.599 it does sometimes to confuse, because it starts to use certain language. So 415 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:12.279 it' s just an effect that there' s like complacency, that is, 416 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.519 you start saying name, because you look at your handwriting. You see 417 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.880 your affections are very strong and you, when you have yourself, do a 418 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:23.680 form of flattery, of course it' s a form of flattery and I 419 00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.240 insist, that is, as long as you take this as an entertainment. 420 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:32.720 It' s okay. The problem is that they sell you a course like 421 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:34.119 he says. I think so, and I ignored this part until I saw 422 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:37.920 Mr. Doctor, they sell you a course where they tell you that you 423 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.160 ' re going to be an expert, that they' re going to receive 424 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:47.400 you from the prosecution to work with them, when it' s not true 425 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:49.880 and really yes, it' s considered a pseudoscience and there' s nothing 426 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.000 wrong with it, because there' s a lot of people who do astrology 427 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:53.960 and you can tell them it' s a pseudoscience. And no way, 428 00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:59.480 because there is clear, because it is, there is one thing that is 429 00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:04.559 called the s scientific method that you are taught from first high school, from 430 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:08.160 first high school. So, well, if you can' t pass the 431 00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:12.359 test, because it' s not a science of Ephrain I think that what 432 00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:17.319 hasn' t understood the context of everything that happened with my serruptor and because 433 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:18.880 he' s like that. He' s a character and he loves the 434 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:22.279 mess. This is Danorca from medicine. I' ve loved it for that, 435 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.279 because for people who are dedicated to health sciences, the subject of charlatans 436 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:32.160 is very serious. The section of my servatos is called that unmasking charlatans. 437 00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:36.680 And the issue with Marifer is that what she' s doing is a talk 438 00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:40.480 she' s going to talk about and with all peace, with all peace 439 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:44.680 and with much love, that is because the fact that she says she' 440 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.599 s a scientist when she' s not. And then Marifer I hope you 441 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.599 see us I tell you your personal thing, if you say you' re 442 00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:56.200 talking about psychology and you have nothing to do with psychology, is that it 443 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:02.640 ' s called usurpation of yes, yes, notice that I' m going 444 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:10.960 to tell you nothing clearer. Besides, I think that, in addition to 445 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.960 that being manipulated, it' s a bit of manipulation that Marifer rye does, 446 00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:21.559 so from false hopes to people he puts them in one, that is, 447 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:23.359 he puts them to believe in something they shouldn' t believe. And 448 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.039 I insist it' s not bad. What makes the problem is that you 449 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:33.079 take that problem seriously, that' s the one that' s really serious. 450 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.079 And apart from what Ephraim said right now, we should also add, 451 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.680 in fact, one thing that, in addition to the fact that she does 452 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:49.200 not have the training to propose a therapeutic method, this is not a therapeutic 453 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:52.640 method. Nor even though it promotes it a little as if it were, 454 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.000 not a therapeutic method, because look at me nothing more. I want to 455 00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:01.039 say fast four very quick things that I just heard just now, that Jorge 456 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:07.039 Carvajal tells her, that she told him. This is what Jorge Carvajal says 457 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.759 Marifer doesn' t appear on the program, but he says I asked him 458 00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.079 promptly and answered me number one, this from the look card. I thought 459 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:17.119 because I' m going to tell you here with all the respect of the 460 00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:22.880 world. The degree is one thing that means that one completed the exams. 461 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:30.720 Well, he completed all of the training and his exams got a degree on 462 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:35.119 average or presented a thesis, defended it, passed the professional exam and gave 463 00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:37.759 him a degree. That is what one studied complete and is entitled and then 464 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:43.319 comes what is the professional card, that this is an administrative procedure that is 465 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:47.640 needed to be able to exercise and is required and that can happen in different 466 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:53.039 times. There are people who take too long or get complicated or sometimes things 467 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:55.480 happen, but it doesn' t necessarily mean they' re not qualified, 468 00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:59.200 which doesn' t mean it' s not a requirement to have this card. 469 00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.559 Well, I thought it was gonna be her case. I thought that 470 00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:05.160 I said maybe I hadn' t taken out the card, but I did 471 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.279 have the title of the time back, because Jorge Carvajal says that she told 472 00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:13.200 him that she actually got the title last year because she hadn' t been 473 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.160 able to do the social service. That' s a good thing we' 474 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:21.640 re not asking about your career, that' s valid, but about this 475 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:25.599 other talking about physical or physiological health issues, mental and so on. Then 476 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:30.680 says Jorge Carvajal who told him again. But then it' s science or 477 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:35.720 it' s not science, graphology. And says Jorge Carvajal told me it 478 00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.720 ' s a branch of psychology. Then again, according to Jorge Carvajale, 479 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.599 she claims that it is a branch of psychology, when it is not third, 480 00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:46.119 which is why she gives a specialty. But yes, but no, 481 00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:52.000 and that she told Jorge Carvajal we did not teach in my institute a specialty. 482 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.759 It' s just a course. And he still tells Philip ah like 483 00:33:55.799 --> 00:34:00.960 it' s a summer course for kids, something like that, and he 484 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.640 says Jorge Carvajar No, I don' t know if it' s for 485 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:04.880 kids or not, but he already told me it' s just a course. 486 00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.679 And then I realize it. Jorge says something on his page is wrong, 487 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:12.920 because there are parts of his page where he says this is a specialty 488 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:14.880 and she says no to me. No, no, no, no, 489 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.199 it' s just a course. And the last thing is, I tell 490 00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:22.400 him. I never said I could lose weight with writing. I just said 491 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:27.480 that writing can lower the anxiety that makes people eat and that so people can 492 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.960 lose weight when they eat out of anxiety. That' s all bullshit. 493 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:35.519 It' s not like I heard Marifer' s voice say as soon as 494 00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.679 you find out what' s the excitement that makes you fat. You' 495 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.079 re going down and here' s Juan and I mean, what are you 496 00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:42.559 talking about? Look, I' m gonna make this clear to you. 497 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:46.079 Angelica naba asks, Lupita, I' m wrong, or you were in 498 00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:51.360 favor of Marifer' s comments before. I' ll explain to you clearly 499 00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.119 that I' ve invited Marifer. Of course he did. In fact, 500 00:34:53.599 --> 00:35:01.440 when they discussed poncho with clau in the story so we did a special Marifeer 501 00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:06.880 and I with them and analyzed the faces. Of course I do, and 502 00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:08.760 I like Marifer very much. The problem is, it' s entertainment. 503 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:15.679 As long as you tame it as an entertainment, we have also done shows 504 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.480 here with Juan and random And we have done with mel and we have done 505 00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:21.639 here with Ephraim. We' ve already done in history, in history, 506 00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:27.639 in researching stories about the coaches of life, how someone can get into making 507 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.719 a coach of life and dare to lead someone else' s life and others 508 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:35.480 accept someone coming to tell you what a coach of life is like. That 509 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:37.159 ' s what I don' t agree with. And, for example, 510 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:42.199 someone who liked the life coach thing has been Marta Carrillo and she knows perfectly 511 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:49.159 well that I am very critical on that topic and recognizes it respect. What 512 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:53.000 happens is that when you already want to do this a business, as they 513 00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:58.480 say, when you come, we have done many hundreds of good. We 514 00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.880 haven' t always done several shows talking about when a famous hearer or I 515 00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.840 don' t know he just grafted hair and told you he grew up with 516 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.440 a shampoo. It' s a fraud, because that' s a fraud, 517 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.840 whoever says it. Well, the same thing happens here. Then I 518 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.159 want and I estimate marifer of course I love her. He' s worth 519 00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:23.039 it. The point is how far you' re going to take what' 520 00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:30.519 s entertainment, make a life coach and run yempo. When we do the 521 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:34.480 program here, the program that most refers to theoretical and orientation issues, creates 522 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.119 your life with John and Salazar, where we touch the topics in a much 523 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:45.000 more way, since in knowledge. However, in spite of Juani' s 524 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:51.519 preparation and the same thing we do in broken souls is channel, channel if 525 00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:55.960 you identify any of these traits and you think someone nearby is looking for help, 526 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:01.119 seek therapy, but we have never dared to say take it to the 527 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:06.480 letter. What is said here much less to give advice and much less to 528 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:10.440 give advice. And that, indeed, there is a degree in nutrition. 529 00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:15.079 I did not graduate from pedagogy, but it was what I studied that I 530 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.400 taught them all my subjects and more. But you don' t dare do 531 00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:21.639 that because it' s not right, because it' s not right. 532 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.559 Efradin to see now here the subject of the burr. No, I mean, 533 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:29.440 everybody knows I' m in there I have my beliefs. I believe 534 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.280 in the sleeves of the vest and the sopre sonics and some very strange things. 535 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.960 And then I believe a lot in astrology, which is pseudoscience. Imagine 536 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:44.840 no more, I want to invent a low- weight course with Chinese horoscope, 537 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.000 that is, not the batburet. It' s not that clear, 538 00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:51.440 because it' s unreal. It' s unreal. Look it says that 539 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:53.920 Juan and Salazar in the is to leave me with a stop. I was 540 00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:58.519 in a lot of comments. The point is where he got into an eleven 541 00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:01.320 - rod shirt. Marifer was saying that she treats diseases such as anxiety and 542 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:07.440 obesity with writing. Indeed, it says to me. I don' t 543 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:13.199 like her either, Marifer, but it bothers me that with a signature I 544 00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.760 want to tell you about a person' s life and she does, well, 545 00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:19.679 Miguel Gemini and no, ma' am. Entertainment is also regulated towards 546 00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:24.719 like professions. At your convenience, it' s entertainment. So what Paul 547 00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:29.320 said is entertainment. There was also a crime. That' s what you 548 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.760 ' re doing? What is making sea fers feel is not a crime in 549 00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:38.360 terms of saying things on TV i e, no, entertainment is regulated and 550 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:44.800 there is no point of comparison in what Paula is a maritime subject is no 551 00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:49.519 other. It' s two things that have absolutely nothing to do with it. 552 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:54.239 Nothing to see, nothing to see. As a lawyer, he is 553 00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:59.079 not as capable either, as he should know that he can get into strong 554 00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:07.440 legal trouble with what Lupita Marifera does, assured on many occasions that someone is 555 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:09.320 lying in legal matters without having credentials to ensure that someone is lying. That 556 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:14.679 is the problem when it ceases to be entertainment to affect someone else’ s 557 00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:22.519 life in serious matters, for there is the serious. Don' t keep 558 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.719 going if you notice that, for example, let' s be clear. 559 00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:34.480 Look It' s like she did a description of what she saw in that 560 00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.639 show Lupita is commenting on where there was, but now for a second. 561 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:45.239 We just wait hard, we wait a clear second to see Mira Miguel I 562 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:49.079 explain that entertainment according to you, not, according to me, that entertainment. 563 00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.559 In the United States you can' t talk about mental health issues without 564 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:57.880 having an expert on the forum. Yes, but Marifermo works in the United 565 00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:04.000 States, he works in Mexico. Mexico is not regulated. What Paola did 566 00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:12.280 was promote a crime or announce his crime. It' s different. You 567 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.559 ' re talking about the United States when Marifer does it in the United States, 568 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:20.760 because already to give the authorities what is right is that Marifel' s 569 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:29.599 crime is unethical in exact in Mexico, santi forgive me continues not yes alone 570 00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:34.239 and I was saying then that when there was that program where the moods got 571 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.000 up a little bit, he came and analyzed and then she said good. 572 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.400 Here you see that, for example, of me, of my person, 573 00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:43.440 it does not say. Here you can see that Dr Mel already felt a 574 00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:47.360 little nervous, because she also looks at how she is already quiet and is 575 00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.079 turning on one side and not on the other, because yes, very probably 576 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:54.599 I of course, it is evident and because of her it is a little 577 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.440 more incisive in that. But that wasn' t diagnosing me at all, 578 00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.440 I wasn' t prescribing anything or anything. I was just doing one or 579 00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:09.679 a piece of something that was happening. And that' s what he did. 580 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:13.840 And that' s what lupita means with entertainment. That is because I 581 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:20.760 lie and not to say that diseases are also cured with something that does not 582 00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.760 because I tell you I read says Jorge Carvajal and she tells him that with 583 00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:30.000 the writing it lowers the anxiety that is eaten, neither neither does it not 584 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.960 white as they arm the batiburrillo, because it already stole your sentence. It 585 00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:37.239 cheers me up because that' s the problem, so it has to see 586 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:43.599 the balls, that' s where we' re wrong, we' re 587 00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:46.760 falling into the same thing, because to attack and to defend one attack in 588 00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:50.800 the other it doesn' t have to do and it' s what' 589 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:52.320 s going on like the hyper I mean, it has nothing to do with 590 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:53.079 one thing with another. And I think the sangos, right now I went 591 00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:58.960 out to say good, because I do entertainment. It got out of hand, 592 00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:02.079 it' s over exactly, exactly, and I wouldn' t have 593 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:09.280 anything wrong with seeing now the matter of professional usurpation of saying that you have 594 00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:14.719 a title that you don' t have. We had a man named Fausto 595 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:22.400 Alsati many six years ago, who in the end was Fausto Falsati because he 596 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:28.079 was appointed Secretary of Education and was not entitled then by Mr He did not 597 00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.880 go to jail. Of course, I don' t know if it' 598 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:35.119 s a crime or administrative misdemeanor, I don' t know what, what 599 00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.480 it consists of, but the joke is that he was separated from his duties, 600 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:37.599 but he didn' t go to jail. Here' s what' 601 00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.280 s gonna happen to Mary Ferps who' s gonna tell her don' t 602 00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:45.559 say you' re lying, but that' s got to tell someone and 603 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:50.920 so on. But the problem is deception. I don' t know, 604 00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.360 I' m not a lawyer and I' d have to tell someone who 605 00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:58.079 knows about laws. I wouldn' t know if being on TV and giving 606 00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.880 health advice is a crime or not, because look at all the mornings doing 607 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:08.159 that. Shannik Berman has just been given nineteen injections of acid already to the 608 00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:13.280 uronic and they recommend it to the public, as it is the same, 609 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.440 not more than physical health and the other one of mental health as serious one 610 00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:19.960 as the other. So I don' t dare say if that' s 611 00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.679 a crime, if you can fake a responsibility, I don' t know. 612 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:29.719 Yes, but what' s wrong is that you say I insist, 613 00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:34.239 as Juan says and as Mel Ephraim says, as we all say, that 614 00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.880 you tell people that changing your lyrics you' re going to lose weight, 615 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.719 because that' s fraud. That' s a lie Now, whether it 616 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:45.079 ' s a crime or not. No, I know, unethical, yes, 617 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.719 it' s unethical. No. That' s the problem when it 618 00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.519 stops being entertainment, because you' re on TV and you get a signature 619 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:54.199 and say no man, you' re like you said very much at first, 620 00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:59.039 bad you' re very funny. You like to tell, jokes you 621 00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:00.199 do a lot of good. So much is fine. All right, well, 622 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:02.719 how do they call you sagittarius? Sure, you like to travel. 623 00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:07.079 You' re okay, nothing' s gonna happen. Hey, the problem 624 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.960 is when you tell yourself you have this problem. I' m your life 625 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:14.039 car, I' m going to tell you what you have to do if 626 00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:19.840 what you want is because I' m going to believe you and blind table 627 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:21.840 and blindly to what you tell me. And that' s where life coaches 628 00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.639 make a lot of money? That' s where they make a lot of 629 00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:31.280 money? Ask a ton and a lot, how much they pay as they 630 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:37.079 are, dismissing the importance of these physical and mental health issues, because in 631 00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:44.280 addition, they can increase. We couldn' t, as Ephraim also told 632 00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:50.280 us yesterday, be ignoring the need to go to a different specialist, maybe 633 00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:55.440 coming out with a crinologist, maybe I don' t know a metabolic risk 634 00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:59.800 specialist and you' re letting it go, because you think that that can 635 00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:04.119 be solved through writing, just as the problem of an anxiety disorder doesn' 636 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:07.000 t solve either because you change the writing. Of course you have to take 637 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:14.159 care of it, you have to go on medication and in addition, they 638 00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.880 are sufferings that have to deal with a multidisciplinary team. It says sweet tide 639 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:20.519 is and a fraud. It' s not a crime. There' s 640 00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:25.920 fraud to fraud. Please, I mean. I remember someone selling bits of 641 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:31.159 the Cross of Jesus Christ on television, because one of my neighbors asked me 642 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:35.840 to wait for a very important package that was coming to him and I didn 643 00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.119 ' t leave my house waiting for the package and when I asked him, 644 00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:40.119 he told me it was a piece of the Cross of Jesus Christ. I 645 00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:44.480 said use means. That' s a fraud, of course, it' 646 00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:45.800 s a fraud and it exists, but a fraud. For it to be 647 00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:50.639 a crime, I think it has to be property damage. It' s 648 00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.119 got to be for telling you, forging a signature, I don' t 649 00:45:54.880 --> 00:46:01.400 know, but showing up on TV and lying if it was a crime, 650 00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:01.679 there' d be a lot of people committing it by now. I mean, 651 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:05.760 I don' t know. I insist if anyone you know, because 652 00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:09.039 Ephraim says so already, and the point is that exactly why I said that 653 00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:14.039 my jungler is very humble, because I don' t know if it happens 654 00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.159 to him so badly, but suddenly the doctors get a lot into the nutrition 655 00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:22.199 area and then they send people to lose weight with pills. And that' 656 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:22.679 s good for me. I mean, it' s not your area, 657 00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:27.280 just stay out of it, just go, I mean, you' re 658 00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.119 the doctor and do what you have to do. And my salesman always defends 659 00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.199 that. The psychologist who does what he is. The psychologist, the psychiatrist 660 00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:36.840 who locates the psychiatrist, because then there are also psychologists who are medicating. 661 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.599 No, I mean, we' ve also been weirder, and besides, 662 00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:43.280 they' re not okay. So, that' s why I think my 663 00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.679 place is very humble, because it always says go with the specialist, that 664 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:51.360 is, this one touches him so, this one touches him so, and 665 00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:52.079 every specialist should say they are nil limits. I can' t help you 666 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:55.880 anymore You' re going to the one who' s coming to finish what 667 00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:02.280 Mariferma is doing, because besides, it' s like omnipresent Marifer It' 668 00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:07.599 s not like it' s but a photographer, but it' s a 669 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:12.119 psychologist, but it' s not to see that you don' t, 670 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:13.920 no, you' re not You can' t claim that you have all 671 00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:13.920 those professions and all that knowledge and you can' t go from entertainment to 672 00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:20.559 being a therapist. He does not hear at least that you do all the 673 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:24.400 training so that you are, if that is of interest to you. And 674 00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:32.400 then, you want to implement or complement a certain form of therapy or a 675 00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:37.039 certain therapeutic model, adding these other elements, because it is obviously writing, 676 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.920 in itself, that is writing, because the exercise of writing, of course, 677 00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:49.800 can be a part of a therapeutic indication within a treatment model that is 678 00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:52.559 being carried out, but it is not in itself, much less in this 679 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:59.000 way, a treatment as such, as it is not. I think so. 680 00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:02.119 I think so, and I should have marifel a little bit for someone 681 00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:07.199 to help you in this damage control, because there can be a lot of 682 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:08.519 things, there are a lot of things that can be rescued from what Marifer 683 00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:13.760 does. She' s very good at talking, but I insist, when 684 00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:16.360 she goes from entertainment, to being a specialist who isn' t, because 685 00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:22.599 it' s the serious thing. I don' t think there' s 686 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:30.039 anything to segregate guys doctor from him, because I don' t think it 687 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:30.320 seems like this is going to keep giving a little more to talk about. 688 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:35.280 I hope that she will therefore organize her ideas a little better and the intention 689 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:40.039 she has to do this work, and that one too will continue to have 690 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:45.840 this responsibility to inform oneself. I don' t see some comments here that 691 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.360 say, but she' s a member of I don' t know what 692 00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:52.400 she' s mine, because we have to investigate what that is, because, 693 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:57.239 for example, one thing that also said Mister Doctor is that she talks 694 00:48:57.400 --> 00:48:59.800 about a school of graphology, which is hers and her mother' s, 695 00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:05.679 that is, it' s her own institution, which we wouldn' t 696 00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.320 have to criticize anymore because it' s hers, but we should also see 697 00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:14.719 if she' s registered what she offers, if she does what she offers, 698 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:15.519 and if it' s like she said earlier that I was listening to 699 00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.119 Jorge Carvajal for a course. We offer a cul is fine. You' 700 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.960 re like offering a corsine course and you don' t have to be a 701 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:25.360 chef and I know how to cook very well, I mean, I wouldn 702 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:30.039 ' t have anything wrong exactly maybe if he offered you that, coming out 703 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:30.599 of that, you' re going to be an expert, that you' 704 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:31.039 re going to work at the prosecutor' s office. Well, maybe there 705 00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:35.039 if I see a little bit of the truth. But if not more, 706 00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.880 it' s a course based on Marifer' s books that exists in the 707 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.800 auto thingy. So it can be, I mean, it can be how 708 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:45.039 you can take a course of something else. Why she came out dressed as 709 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:46.840 a Marine. I don' t know They say it' s gonna be. 710 00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:50.320 Marifera said that on her channel she' s going to tell the truth 711 00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.800 and she' s going to bill for sure. And it' s okay, 712 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.760 it' s okay. And she' ll know what she' ll 713 00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:59.679 say and it' s very valid. We' ll listen to her and 714 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:01.320 we' ll see what she says and we' ll talk about it too. 715 00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.639 And we' ll talk about it too. Yeah, sure, yeah, 716 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.719 yeah, well, something you want to add. Dear friends, Ephraim, 717 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:15.320 I' m already going to look for specialists. Go to the specialist, 718 00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:20.239 check well what they have and go decanting. If this one was not, 719 00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:23.199 don' t keep the first, p check and go to the specialist 720 00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:25.519 who have to go the exact one, the little guy who touches him. 721 00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:35.679 Not exact, exactly, well, she says she offers graph therapy based on 722 00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.880 the results of your study Yes, because it is. This is the hilito, 723 00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:44.800 the line, which divides where you' ve already gone from being an 724 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:49.199 entertainment and something fun to do and working with the audience in short. But, 725 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.119 well, thank you all very much for having accompanied us and we see 726 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:57.280 each other soon in history, in history, but there will be women leaving 727 00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:00.000 a mark that are Madonna' s three programs. They can be followed and 728 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:04.440 all of them can be thrown out. And I' m going to sor 729 00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:06.239 your pastor, I' m going to send you a course. No, 730 00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:07.840 it' s not true, it' s true, it' s not 731 00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:12.599 true. The lupic ship. You should do that, yes, look at 732 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:15.559 it, of course, but there you notice that it is an absolute fraud, 733 00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:17.360 which is a cover that, of course, no more so that I 734 00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:21.159 give us natives if we have never said that the ship in Madrid is true 735 00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.000 more than a joke. But well, thanks a lot to everyone and we 736 00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:27.400 ' ll see you then tomorrow, thanks for joining us here, on the 737 00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:31.360 YouTube channel and on podcast platforms and thanks to subscribers, members and so on, 738 00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:35.679 guys. Let' s go, then.