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Second hour of the program, Welcome
Back, Exces and Brose Monday through Friday,

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sixtill nine here across the great state
of Michigan, I'm the Michigan Sports

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Network. A little bit later on
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the Huge Show three till six,
Bill Simonson with his huge opinions on a

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lot of things that we're talking about. I said just before the break,

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Victor Webbin Yama, unanimous Rookie of
the Year, third spur to do it.

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He is just the fourth player to
ever record fifteen hundred points, two

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hundred and fifty assists, and two
hundred and fifty blocks in a season.

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Do you know the other three?
One I've already mentioned. David Robinson he

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did it twice, a Keem Elijah
On arguably my favorite center, he did

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it twice. And Kareem abdul Jabbar
did it five times. I think Kareem

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Abdul Jabbar is an underrated player forever. It seemed like he was the leading

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scorer in the history of the league
until Lebron James overtook him earlier this year.

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When people talk about the greatest player
of all time, what names do

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you hear you just don't hear Kareem
Abdul Jabbar enough. I say the same

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thing about Ty Cobb and Pete Rose
to a certain extent. Pete Rose one

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of the greatest hitters of all time. Ty Cobb one of the greatest players

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of all time, and people forget
Ty Cobb was in the inaugural Hall of

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Fame class. He received more votes
than anybody. But you don't hear his

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name being brought up as much.
And I know, I know nobody saw

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him show. Yeah, I get
it, But you could go back and

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look at numbers and look at statistics
and look at articles and stuff, can't

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you. Yes, phone number on
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eight forty eight forty three. We'll
get to what pat Riley had to

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say about one of his stars here
in a moment. Let's go to the

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phones. Ben, who do we
got weight yet? Mark? And saganaw

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Hey, Mark, good morning to
you, thanks for listening there. And

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saganaw w lun one hundred point nine
FM to Minte. What's going on?

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Hey? Matt. Always loved hearing
you at the Tiger broadcast and on your

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show now currently, so great job. Thank you. I appreciate that.

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Thank you, Mark, I had
you were You're welcome. You were commenting

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on a number of really interesting statistics. Here's one statistic that I would like

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to know related to the Tigers and
maybe other major league players, and that

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would be, is there a statistics
that miss hittable pitches, you know,

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mistake pitches or or taters or whatever
you want to call them, and the

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number of times or that the hitter
is able to drive those hitable pitches,

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you know, with a with a
strong exit velocity. Because what I see

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and I just you know, I
just watch games on TV and stuff.

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I don't know. I'm not in
the clubhousie, you know whatever, But

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it seems to me like the Tigers
are not barreling up pitches when other pitchers

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make mistakes or give them something out
over the middle of the plate. Is

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there a statistic like that or not? There is a statistic for barrel percentage.

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If that's what you're looking for,
you can go into and get a

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lot of you know, the different
look you know this Mark. Anytime you're

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dealing in baseball, you are dealing
with all kinds of different numbers, right,

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It's it's crazy. The amount and
if you want to go hard hit

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rate, that's up to you.
I mean, it depends the hard hit

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rate. The average hard hit rate
in baseball right now is thirty nine percent.

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The Tigers are at forty percent.
Yeah, so they are tenth.

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They are tenth right now, tenth
in Major League Baseball in hard hit percentage.

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If that means anything to you,
you know, well, I was

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listening to Craig Monroe and I was
interested in this analysis yesterday in the game

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because there were probably three or four
times when, you know, Craig made

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the comment that it looked like,
you know, hitters in a couple of

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different instances got pitches that they could
you know, had a chance to really

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bear a lop, and that it
didn't look like the Tiger hitters were ready

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or Craig didn't have an explanation for
why they didn't you know, you know,

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weren't aggressive on that particular pitch.
You know, this problem with the

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Tiger's hitting, it's not a new
problem. They were not good last year,

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I'm not sure the year before.
And I think something is wrong or

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that that goes beyond the you know, the normal stuff. Yeah, I

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think and he would be the first
to admit because he has done it himself

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and been there, done that.
It's the the hard thing about it is

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you know you got a guy out
there trying to get you out with Generally,

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if you're in the major leagues,
you got good stuff, right,

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So guys are not always going to
square things up. And that's the beauty

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of baseball too. But also the
frustrating part is that you know you're also

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you get rewarded sometimes for bleeders.
You get rewarded for you know, soft

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hits too. So a lot of
people will tell you oftentimes that evens out.

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I think that and thanks to the
phone call Mark, I think a

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lot of that has to do with
approach. What is your approach in the

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batter's box? Where are you trying
to go with certain pitches? Look,

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you could say what you want about
guys like Miguel Cabrera in the past,

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Not that I sit there and advocate
to keep him around as a player,

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but what he did and what players
told me they learned from Miguel Cabrera and

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his approach in batting practice was everything
was to write and write center to start.

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How many times are guys trying to
pull the ball? I don't know

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the answer to this, by the
way, because you know these are up

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to the individual. But are how
many times are you trying to pull the

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ball? How many times are you
getting your site set on center left center

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to keep yourself true and back a
little bit? Those are the things,

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and I'm sure there's a I'll guarantee
you you know. They have hitter meetings

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every day, by the way.
Every day they go out there and they

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try to do you know, figure
out a game plan dependent on the pitcher.

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So what they're going to do.
It's it's about ten twelve minutes,

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okay, So they go out,
players will show up, they'll take some

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early BP. You know. The
first bus is usually for a six forty

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or seven o'clock game at noon.
You'll see the managers and coaches all on

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that bus. You'll see some players
on that bus. They'll get there,

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they'll stretch, they will get a
lift in, you know, get the

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heart rate up, and they will
take some early BP, maybe some defensive

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play out there. Then they'll come
in. Other team go to their it

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gets their batting practice, and Detroit
will go in and they'll they'll look at

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film a little bit. Everybody's got
their own individual iPad. They can look

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at that, but they'll talk about
They'll have a hitters meeting. Pitchers and

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catchers get together. The starter gets
together with a catcher and they go over

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the scouting report. How do we
want to attack certain pitchers or certain batters?

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While the batters are looking at pitching
reports, how are we going to

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deal with Tristan McKenzie, whoever they're
whoever they may be facing. So Logan

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Allen is throwing for Cleveland here tonight, the hitters will make sure they go

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over all the things that Logan Allen, his tendencies and what he does.

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So there is an approach. My
point is they're preaching and approach. How

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many times are players, depending on
their situation one in two, two and

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one, three and one, whatever, How many times are they keeping that

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approach in the box? Are they
staying true to it? So that's the

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thing that I can't necessarily tell because
I don't know what their meeting is.

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I used to know, being around
the team every day and talking to different

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players, Well, this is what
we want to do against a guy like

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that? Give you a better idea
for the broadcast. Not being with them,

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I don't know what those approaches would
be, but I would find it

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hard to believe that the approach would
be with what they're doing right now.

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They're just not able to execute it. Sometimes, just sometimes I get tired

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three. The text is Sports Radio
twenty one thousand. I want to get

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to what pat Riley said about one
of his best players and how it becomes

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a little bit more refreshing. He
says what many of us think. But

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first I think we got a text, right, Ben, we got a

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text. Yeah, that's right,
Okay, fire Away says, I can

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give you one from each sport who
they don't talk about enough about, right

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and great Matt Sundean, Charles Barkley, Robin Youu, and Troy Aikman.

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Well, Troy Eigman's a Hall of
Famer, so is Robin Yunt. Okay.

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Yeah, Look, just because in
the Hall of Fame doesn't mean that

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they're not underrated. Because I brought
up Ty Cobb, so that's a really

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good point out. Kareem at bul
Jabbar I liked those. Yeah, I

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would buy that. I would say
I would I think in baseball, I

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think Stan Musual is probably one of
the biggest underrated players of all time.

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Now, he played in a great
baseball town. Saint Louis is a phenomenal

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arguably the best baseball town in America. If he played in New York or

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Boston, I mean it would be
he would be Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio

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for sure. Guy won three MVPs
in the National League, fourth on the

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all time MLB hits list at one
point. It's a twenty time All Star.

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So I would say Stan Musual is
one of them. Charles Barkley is

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a good one because you know,
I think he gets labeled as the guy

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who didn't win a championship. I
would argue besides Kareem Abdul Jabbar, I

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would say Moses Malone, all time
All Star, three time League MVP,

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He was the Finals MVP, averaged
a double double for his career. You

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know the problem is people looked at
Jabbar and Russell and Chamberlain back then.

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The other thing about Moses Malone is
if you look at his the number of

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offensive rebounds, he was an absolute
beast. These are the guys. It's

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a great conversation. I appreciate that
info, especially with Robin Yon. I

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loved Robin. I thought he's a
great player. But if you look at

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Moses Malone and you see what he
did from an offensive rebounding standpoint, it's

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it's incredible how dominant of a player
he could be this guy historically. You

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know, look at what he's He
led the league in rebounding six times,

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and he did it five times in
a row. He averaged it's seventeen and

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a half boards, fifteen boards,
fifteen boards, fifteen boards, thirteen and

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a half thirteen rebounds and the offensive
rebounding. It's really impressive. I'm not

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sure. I mean, there are
certain records that will never be broken,

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and I think you know, we've
brought up a number of them on the

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show in the past. I've said, Nolan Ryan's strikeout, so it'll just

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never be touched. Will Chamberlain's rebounding
effort will never be touched. Twenty three,

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nine and twenty four rebounds. It's
incredible. He averaged twenty three rebounds

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per game in his career. Think
about that for a moment. You can

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talk about the era all you want, you talk about how big guys were

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and so on and so forth.
And even though Bill Russell is much shorter

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than Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell averaged
almost twenty five rebounds per game in his

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career. But there are certain I
think there are certain things that will never

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be broken. I think Moses Malone
has one of those records. When we

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get caught up in Michael Jordan and
Lebron James and Steph Curry with his threes,

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I get it, totally understand it. But there are certain things that

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Moses Malone has done in his career, and I think certain things that a

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guy like a Keem Elijah On has
done in his career number of blocks and

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thirty just incredible. Those are certain
things that you look at you go,

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Okay, it's just not going to
be broken. Malone's in that conversation he

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is, He's in that conversation with
rebounds, offensive rebounds. So those those

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those are good ones. I like
that a lot. I really appreciate that.

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That's that's fun to to look back
on. It really is. It's

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a it's a good time for it's
a good way for people, I think,

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to tell younger people who may not
have seen certain players about it.

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So I brought up stam Muse.
Frank Robinson's another really good one. Just

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an amazing player, pretty damn good
manager two at times, but an amazing

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player. You know, you're talking
about winning the MVP in both leagues,

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Triple crown winner, twelve time All
Star. Awesome. Now, is he

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or was he a guy like Ken
Griffy Jr. Uh? Probably not.

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I mean Ken Griffy Junior. I
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one of the greatest of all time. You win Tim Gold Gloves, you

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hit six hundred and thirty homers,
You're an All Star thirteen times. Those

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are tough numbers to match. Our
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sixty six eight three eight forty eight
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You could text Sports Radio to twenty one

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thousand. Now there are I said, I want to, I want to

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tease the pat Riley story here,
but we're getting close to a break,

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so I want to make sure it
give it its just due, because I

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think it's a pretty cool story.
Whether or not you like pat Riley,

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I like how he has handled this
situation right now with one of his stars

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so I promise we will get to
that at at seven thirty five. I

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do wanted to ask you this,
Ben, I want your opinion on this.

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You've seen the City Connect jerseys or
uniforms for the Tigers, have you

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not? Yeah? Yes, I
have? Okay, and you're a young

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guy, yep. Do you like
them? I do? And if why,

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I don't know. I just they're
different and I like the colors.

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Yeah, this is so. This
is the difference. You know. I've

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tried as hard as I can to
try and evolve as much as possible.

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Take people like like Ben, and
they're thinking they're different. I think that's

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the biggest difference between certain generations.
I'm not saying ours. I'm saying in

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certain generations, it's not an unwillingness
or a willingness to change. It's one

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wants to be different. The other
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them now. I'm also the same
guy who doesn't like the Lions alternatives.

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I like tradition. I like the
fact that there are certain things you don't

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have to mess with, and for
me, the Tigers home uniform is one

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thing you do not mess with.
What was funny about this funny or disappointing.

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Is you get Ryan Gustuson, who's
not even from here. Okay,

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you get a guy like this,
who's you know, the right hand man

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to Chris Ilic and he gives you
this BS that they've tried to combine traditional

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and new. We didn't take this
task lightly. We wanted to achieve connecting

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the city, telling the story the
resurgence, and we wanted to combine traditional

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baseball and something new. Where's the
tradition, Give me the tradition in the

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city, connect uniform, it's nowhere
to be found. We'll get more too

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that and what pat Riley had to
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All right back with you on Actions
and Bros. Get to the pat

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Riley comment about one of his stars
we had just mentioned before the break about

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the Tigers trying to strike a balance
with the new City connect uniforms and how

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their team president, not Scott Harris, but with Ryan Gustafson, who is

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the president and CEO of Village Sports
and Entertainment, said we wanted to strike

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a balance between tradition doing something new
and unique. Give me, where's the

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tradition. Whether you like him or
not, don't give me that line that

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it's tradition and something new and exciting. It says Detroit a cross the top.

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That's not traditional. That's basic.
It says motor City on the front

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of the jersey. That's not traditional. Others have done that. The colors

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aren't traditional. On the side of
the helmet is nineteen. It's a VIN

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number of a car nineteen oh one, which is when the team was founded,

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and then followed by the numbers of
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sixty eight, eighty four. I
guess that's a little traditional tradition for

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the Tigers is the English D.
There's nowhere on the English D. If

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you wanted to put the English D
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they didn't, so don't look again. You like them, fine, that's

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okay. Just don't feed me this. Don't feed me the line that it's

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you combined tradition and something new and
exciting. I mean, you're doing something

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to sell merchandise, you're doing something
because Major League wants it, You're doing

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something because Nike wants it. And
you're doing something and saying something that isn't

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true. There's no tradition. There
was theren't even the Tiger's colors for crying

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out loud. Anyway. The phone
number on the Meyer hotline eight sixty six

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eight three, eight forty eight forty
three, or you can text the program

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Tech Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. Miami Heat were eliminated in the playoffs

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right by the Boston Celtics and what
turned out to be a pretty good series.

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It's it was the same situation a
year ago in which the tables were

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reversed, though, and Miami eliminated
Boston in seven games. So the Celtics

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win, they advance, and they're
into the Eastern Conference Finals where they're going

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to play the Cleveland Cavaliers. A
year ago. The biggest reason Miami advanced

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to the NBA Finals is the stellar
play of one Jimmy Butler considered a really

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good player, fair enough, okay, makes big shots. His issue is

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oftentimes he's not available. Hard to
win with a star if you're not available.

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Jimmy Butler said over the weekend,
if I was playing Boston, would

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be at home. Pat Riley,
who runs the Heat, didn't like that

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very much. Here's what he said. You know, for him to say

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that, you know, I thought, is that Jimmy trolling or is that

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Jimmy sirious? You know, if
you're not on the court playing against Boston,

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around the court playing against New York
next, you should keep your mouth

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shut and your criticism of those teams
love that. Don't kid yourself. You

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were thinking the same thing. You're
not even available. Matter of fact,

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he wasn't even with the team on
the road. You're not available, and

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you're spouting off like that. By
the way, just for the record,

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they met three times during the regular
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He was three for eleven for fourteen
points in a loss, scored seventeen points

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in another loss. Was inactive for
the third meeting, in which Miami lost

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as well. So here's a guy
who wasn't available for any of the playoff

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games this year. Underperformed in two
of the games he played against that team

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in two losses, and wasn't available
in the third meeting in which his team

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lost. And he's spouting off he
could do it from the standpoint that a

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year ago he was really good.
A year ago he was the man against

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Boston. But he's doing it at
a time that is kind of iffy right

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now if he from the standpoint of
this, Jimmy Butler is owed forty nine

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million dollars for next season. The
following season, he's got a player option

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at fifty two and a half million
dollars. When the twenty twenty four twenty

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twenty five season begins next year,
he'll be thirty five. That's a lot

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of money for a guy who this
past season played to the tune of twenty

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one points per game. Now,
would you take twenty one points per game

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to a certain extent, I suppose
you would. Would you do it for

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that kind of money? I don't
think so. Played sixty of the eighty

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two games a year ago, sixty
four games a year ago, two years

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ago, fifty seven games, fifty
two fifty. He's not playing every game.

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Matter of fact, he's only played
every game once in his career.

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Take it further, he has played
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And I'm not trying to take anything
away from h because I think he's

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a really good player. I don't
think if you're a five time All Defensive

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Team member, a five time All
NBA player, a six time All Star

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without being a hell of a player. He's been a hell of a player.

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I don't think he's all a famer, but I think he's been a

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hell of a player. He's not
available very often. Where are the talk

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show hosts now? They've said it
about Mike Trout and others. How about

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this twice in his career he has
played seventy games or more. Now,

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In fairness to Jimmy Butler, I
always try to see both sides of things.

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I don't toll a line. I'm
just trying to see both sides of

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things. How much of that was
load management? I don't know. You

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know, in twenty seventeen with Chicago, he's playing seventy six games. Did

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he miss six games because of load
management? Perhaps that's a possibility. To

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me, it's not enough. It's
a lot of money to spend on a

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dude who's not always available. Forty
nine million dollars next year for a guy

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who's gonna be thirty five and has
those types of numbers. Back to the

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phone lines and the Meyer hotline eight
sixty six eight three, eight forty eight

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forty three. Then who do we
got waiting for? We got Freddy on

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the line. Oh hey Freddy,
Oh worry man, Good morning. What's

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going on? Good buddy? What's
up? Are good? Thanks? I'm

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dropping off my kids, just dropping
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So oh, I love it for
it too beautiful. So you know,

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I had a couple of comments both
you just spoke about the MotorCity connect

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jerseys. I haven't seen them fully, but I understand and I heard enough

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about them. You know, when
I kept hearing Motor City Connected jerseys,

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you know what I was thinking.
I was thinking that the lion or the

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tigers were making a jersey with all
the teams on them. That's kind of

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what the way I took it,
And I thought that would have been more

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cooler, maybe with a jersey with
you know, all the wings of the

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lions and the pistons kind of connect
the city. Right, Why would you

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do that. I don't know why
they would do that. I'm just saying

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I just I think they would.
I think that would be kind of cool,

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kind of connect the city and the
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you know there's baseball is in between
all the sports. I think I just

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think I just think that would have
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the colors I don't like. I
don't get the colors purple or whatever

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whatever the league plants. I don't
get the color. But I just thought

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that would have been cool. With
the Motor City connect. That's kind of

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the way I took it was gonna
be. But anyways, but uh,

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the pat Riley thing, you know, it's it's first of all, it's

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fine. It's wild to see pat
Riley when when you grew up watching the

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Pistons in the mid eighties and pat
Riley and Chuck Daily were to two stars

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as coaches and pet Rally is still
around. Chuck Dailey's been long to long

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gone, you know, fifteen sixteen
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But you know, I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna be the old man on

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to get off my long kind of
guy. But you know, I'm gonna

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care anxiety. But what guys like
with pat Riley, when they're gone that

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generation, it's gonna get worse and
worse because he holds these players accountable.

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Now, I didn't see to the
fairness, I didn't see what the player

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said. I didn't hear what you
what you said he did. But pe

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Rowley's old school. He holds his
as accountable. These players are making so

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much money that that skipping the playoff
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That's that's just wild to me.
I mean, I can get maybe maybe

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skipping a regular season game, which
I don't even like, what a playoff

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game and I see these guys jumping
around on the sidelines, high fiving their

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teammates and stuff like that. To
me, that absolutely that that just just

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I hate it and it turns me
completely off. And you know, I

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don't want to be that guy.
But I'm telling you, if guys like

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pat Riley and that generation starts going, uh, sports and society's gonna start

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going. And I'm glad pett Riley
said what he said, because most wouldn't

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because they'd be afraid to lose their
job or or be made fun of on

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social media. So that's great.
I'm with you on that. That's a

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that's a good take. Thanks for
to hit him straight today. Little envious

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of you? Yeah, that's look. Pat Riley can say it because he's

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the guy who controls it, but
I think he would have said it no

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matter what I mean, there are
certain people that are securing their jobs.

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I think it's is it a fear
you don't want to alienate a player.

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I'm sure here's what critics would say. Critics would say, you could alienate

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Jimmy Butler, and you could alienate
future free agents or future players that they're

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afraid that you'd call them out.
I guess my response to that would be,

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I don't know if I want those
players if they can't take it.

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I don't think I want those players
if they're that sensitive. We just brought

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this up the other day, just
yesterday, remember the comment from David Pasternak

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for the Boston Bruins. He owned
it. His coach Jim Montgomery called him

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out after Game six. He said, we need our best players to be

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their best. We've gotten that from
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pasta his nickname. Pasternak was asked
about it. He said, I agree.

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If I was the coach, i'd
feel the same thing. And then

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he goes out, what does he
do? Scores the game winner in overtime.

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It's pretty cool. That's it.
He didn't sulk, He didn't go

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in the corner and suck his thumb. He didn't go to a writer who

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he trusts and said, I want
you to write about him, and this

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is how bad the coach has been
and this is why he's losing the room,

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and so on and so forth.
No, he didn't do any of

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that. He took it and agreed
with it because the coach was right,

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and pat Riley's right. It's not
like Jimmy Butler only missed one game.

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It's not like Jimmy Butler was a
guy who came out and did all the

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things right before getting hurt. He
missed a ton of time, and there's

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really no reason for him to spout
off, like what's the point. First

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of all, we don't know that's
true that Boston would be home, because

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your numbers this year against them were
nothing special. In fact, there's subpar.

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If you're going to use last year
as a example on why he could

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do it, I could use this
year's example of why he couldn't. So

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we don't know. So just making
that bravado comment to me is pointless.

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You should be applauding pat Riley.
There's something about humility that is lacking at

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times in our society, and sports
can hunt. I think that's what I

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love as much about sports as anything
else, is that when you think you've

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got something figured out, boom,
the sports gods come in and make sure

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you have more to learn. Jimmy
Butler's got more to learn now. As

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far as Freddy's take on the New
City Connect uniforms, I don't think there's

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any purple in the uniforms. I
think it's black and blue. It's similar

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to the Lions. I think it's
a noble idea of what you're saying to

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have. You know, all the
teams on there in some representative. But

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I would ask you this, If
you're the Tigers, why would you want

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another team's logo on your uniform?
Of course your logo is not even on

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the damn uniform. You're English,
d that I can tell. Why'd you

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want to put? For example,
like I could almost see the Red Wings

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because the owner owns both teams.
Why would you want the Pistons who won

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fourteen games on your uniform? Why
would you want the Lions on your uniform?

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I mean, you're the Tigers.
It's not like the other teams are

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doing that in their alternate unis for
your team, you know what I'm saying.

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I mean, not not to sound
too selfish there, but just to

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me, it's a little it's a
little much. I mean, it's a

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novel idea never heard of it,
which is pretty cool, but I just

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don't buy it, and I probably
wouldn't do it either. If you want,

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you know, the Motor City stuff, I'm all for it, right,

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that's our nickname. I get it. Couldn't you have that in English

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form? Could you have put that
in instead? You know, obviously the

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English D is not part of it, but could you have it in the

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English lettering similar to that of the
English D. Do you have to have

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Detroit across your cap when you got
Motor City across your chest? Can't you

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keep the English D but in a
different color that matches the uniforms? Did

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you have to go that drastic?
Again? I always put myself in this

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situation. You're in a conference room, a big conference room at Comerica Park

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and your brainstorming ideas and people are
on that table thought, Yeah, let's

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have different colors, different font different
words, different logo than anything we have.

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And then let's have the president come
out and say we're combining tradition with

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a new look. Where's the tradition? Don't phoebe that there's nothing traditional about

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