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The Downbeat on ninety seven to one
the Freak. All right, thirty minutes

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away, you Chube ready for Astros. Rangers need some nuggets that you can

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take to your water cooler at work. You can impress Janna. You've been

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thinking about Jana a lot lately,
haven't you. You know you have Rick

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or maybe your boss Luke, maybe
you need to maybe you impress him.

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Maybe he's not a sports nutting maybe
you're not either. But you can go

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up to your boss Luke and be
like, hey, all right, this

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is gonna be wild and tell you
and you get act like you don't even

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have to say that you heard it
with us. That's cool if you do

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want to spread the word about us, but you can just act like you

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came up with it, yeah,
instead of staying at the water cooler and

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just you know it's awkward, Like
that's getting cool out there. You know.

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Whatever, the same stuff you do, We're gonna give you something good,

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have something interesting, have something to
offer, have something to give Luke,

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and then guess what Luke might give
you that big promotion over Janna.

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I feel like we've laid out She's
a bitch. Mike Soroy that's an old

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Dan McDowell trick. I heard once
that worked. Yeah, we're sewing the

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seeds of love today for you,
or sewing the seeds of promotion. Yeah,

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so use that. No more bad
small talk, everyone weathered. Okay,

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great, up your small talk.
Just listen to Downbeat and then Yeah,

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you'll have everything you need and more. You have a lot that you

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don't need to tons. We're giving
you what you need every morning from six

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to ten. You just have to
weed through a bunch of stuff that you

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that is completely useful, and we're
sorry about that wasn't the case. Guess

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what we're doing. Winging it.
We're winging it. Absolutely, everyone is

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winging it. We're doing our best. And so do I look like a

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man that's winging it? Yes?
I do, Yes, you do.

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Some people that are successful they're winging
it too, They just don't look like

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they're winging it all the time.
You look like a sports academy. Look

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at this Rangers hat cowboys. You
know. I happened to go to Towny's

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Small with Malki yesterday because we had
to go pick up some Baby Jordan's for

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him, and I strolled by the
uh the popular outlet lids. You scored

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that, I scored me a damn
Rangers cab. Okay, that just a

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Ranger's logo. That's on the other
side. Nothing over here. Your hat

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games, dude, coming a long
way in the last two weeks. I'm

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look, I'm supporting I'm Ranger ready. Yeah, yeah, my Texas,

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My Rangers. That the twenty one
slow that is really good from fifteen years

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ago. Hey, Danny, it's
time and you have a tea hat on

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too. Green. Yes, noticed
that I'm supporting the mean Green. I'll

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have a big game against Temple tomorrow
that you can hear live here on night.

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That's a Texas That's not a Texas
Rangers hat. Oh, it's a

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Texas Rangers, North Texas. Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought.

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Yes, it's beautiful. Can I
admit when I moved here in like six

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I got here and you know,
started listening to radio whatever, and I

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just respectfully say that I actively know
that that's the first time I heard that

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University of North Texas existed. M
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mean, I'm sure that you know
there's some college in Florida that you were

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you know, he did they dominated
Florida International in Florida Atlantic. For all

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those years, I barely know those
two existed. So I'm just saying you

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haven't made your mark who me or
the schools both, And now you consider

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it's weird to just start taking shots
at our partners now, But now I've

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learned how big they are and how
influential and important areasity of North Texas is,

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and we are proud to carry their
games every Saturday here on night won

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the freak well one of the top
jazz programs in the entire world. Of

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course, I've learned that featuring great
people like Nora Jones, Roy Orbison and

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Dave Matthew's Ben saxophonist Jeff Coffin.
So we'll see you guys out there tomorrow,

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you and t I'm not gonna be
there, but I hope they get

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the big win against Temple. Let's
buckle up here. The most important thing

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in the world, Mike, Mike. Here's Mike, Well, normally the

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most important thing in the world.
We bounce back and forth, big mine,

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and we wanted to make it.
I guess when we came up with

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it. Yeah, whatever, the
big story is right, and then sometimes

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we you know, make that a
joke, and it's just something local that

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you know, But sometimes if it's
a big natural disaster, then it is,

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you know, it's we bounce back
and forth. Sometimes it's a waterslide

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wedgie, Yeah, the world's biggest
wedgie that that can fall into this place.

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But the truth is, for long, over a week, it's been

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this situation in the Middle East is
by far the most important thing in the

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world, and we've not really touched
upon it. We we discuss why we

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hadn't because we're stupid. Yeah,
because we're stupid, And we could even

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begin to do the situation justice by
talking about it. But I kind of

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want to take an angle on it
because I will, you know, every

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night I read about it, and
I wake up this morning and that's all

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I read about. And to ignore
it is not exactly a service either,

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even to like regular people, you
know, like us. And it's sort

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of the question of is it okay
to not really understand it? Is it

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okay to have the knowledge of it
that we currently have, I think,

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and I think the answer is yes, Like I think it's okay not to

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fully understand it. And our current
world it's weird because everyone on Twitter,

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which can be a whole different conversation
about how they pass information onto us.

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And maybe it was a better source
of information a couple of years ago,

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and you know, or maybe they're
refining it perfectly. I don't really know

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that answer either, but it the
way we get our news makes it difficult

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to fully understand something as complex as
this what's going on, and I do

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not at all understand it. But
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the latest news is Israel is telling
one point one million people to leave northern

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Gaza because we're coming. And this
is one point one people, many of

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which are you know, families and
children. And I saw something about the

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percentage of children in the Gaza strip
being incredibly high. Boy, what what

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maybe thirty or forty percent or something
versus the world average which is eighteen percent

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something like that. I don't have
the numbers right in front of me.

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And Israel is so mad they're saying
move out of this northern area. We

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are coming, and they're amassing tanks
at the border. Now I'm not in

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any position to take, you know, explain any of this, but that's

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what kind of hit me, is
the guilt of the security that we have

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or the luxury we have of not
being educated on these conflicts, and is

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that okay? And I think you're
also in a unique position at what you

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do for a living that we are
not a political show, we're not a

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political station. We are here to
entertain, maybe to provide some local news

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stuff like that sports, funny stuff, and to provide an alternative time.

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Absolutely, because there's real stuff of
which you can get in many many places

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and people you know, Like you
said, news is very different than it

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was when we were kids. It's
quite fragmented these days, and people have

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many options when it comes to where
they get their news, and if they

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want to hear some nuts and bolt
stuff about this this conflict, this war,

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then they they're probably not looking to
us for that information. So by

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proxy of that, it's not incumbent
upon us to spend our time gaining knowledge

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and understanding about this because we still
have a job to do every day,

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and our job is not that So
there's only enough disk space in your brain

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and only enough hours in the day
to consume the stuff that you need to

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do to effectively do your job.
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is we probably need to know a
little bit about this because it's pretty

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damn big. Yeah, and we
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where this country it does become local
news. I've got a story that's coming

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up in ding New's morning news.
It has a very local connection to what's

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going on over there that'll blow your
mind. So it's a balance, man,

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And I just don't know how much
of this stuff is for our own

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personal understanding or how much we need
to even investigate more of it to talk

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about on the air. I just
don't know, because I don't think that's

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really what our job is. No. I agree, but you're right when

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it gets as big as this is, and it was huge from the minute

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it started. But then they experts
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huge for decades and decades, and
this has been what have you been looking

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at in effect thousands of years?
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this stuff goes back multiple centuries.
I have a handful of Jewish friends in

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Dallas, but in Miami I have
a ton and this I mean either directly

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impacts them or directly impacts one degree
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you know, lives in Israel,
and it feels like a bit of a

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disservice to just completely ignore it because
it's such a polarizing and incredibly important topic.

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And look, this has happened.
We've seen it happen on our soil.

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We've seen debate and conflict over interpretation
of religion and God and the extreme

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levels that some people will do to
I don't know, to make to hammer

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their point home to defend that belief. The extremes that that certain groups and

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certain people will go to is out
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we're dealing with here are people,
you know, it's not necessarily. Look,

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the collateral damage in this really doesn't
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of it. It's about Palestinians and
israelis not about Jewish people and Muslims talking

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about human beings. And that's the
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Like I just want to push the
whole God thing out of it and

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just look at this as a humanitarian
situation. Well it's such and dude,

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there's no you can't win because innocence
are going to die. Innocence have died,

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Innocence are dying every day. And
now that Israel is making this push,

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this retaliation push. Innocence are going
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other nationalities are going to perish,
and a lot of them will be

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children. Yes, it does matter
us too, because there are Americans over

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there too as well. Yes,
look at it that way, Yeah,

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because that is very easy to go. Well, it's not us, so

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it doesn't matter. There are a
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And now I feel guilt for that. For man, but what what if

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I spend every hour of this weekend
educating myself on this conflict? What really

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changes other than maybe in this job, I could provide a little more context

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for information, but don't learn the
language of it. A bit sure in

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the history, and I'd like to
be educated on things, but this is

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so complex that I feel like it's
almost an impossible thing to jump into.

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And really, plus we have all
the instant experts on social media, yeah,

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you know, who act like they've
they've been all over this for so

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long. So that's why the angle
wanted to take is like, is it

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okay not to be I mean,
or even pretend to be educated on this

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or god forbid an expert on it? Well, so that's a very interesting

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because there's easy people and you can
pick and choose information they find online and

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go with it. I talked to
when the Russian Ukraine War started, which

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we feel like you know a little
bit about it now, But back when

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that started, dude, there was
so much that I did not know.

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There's still a lot I don't know
about it. But I was doing podcasts

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at the time, and I just
got this professor on who's studied that region

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so knew all about the conflict there, and talked to him for thirty minutes,

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and by the end of it,
I went, Okay, he spelled

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that out for me pretty good.
I'm glad I took the time to do

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this, and I almost want to
do this here, okay, because it's

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like you need a briefing. The
distinction is, though this did happen to

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us in two thousand and one,
and if this happened to us now,

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if a militant group, a fringe
militant group fired missiles into major cities of

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the United States, it's all we
would be talking about right now. Every

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segment would be dedicated to that.
We would be getting on X to discuss

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the history of their views, how
they arrived to these viewpoints, how they

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assembled, you know, and were
able to clandestinely put this whole operation together.

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We would be dissecting this every day. We would likely spend Look,

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we've been through it, man.
I was there in two thousand and one

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at the other station when those towers
fell, and for two weeks, Mikey

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number one, for a week we
went commercial free. We didn't even air

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spots at all. It was wall
to wall. I was a producer.

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I'm on the phone with not knowing
my ass from my elbow at that job,

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calling people from universities and trying to
get you know, Middle East experts

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on and terrorism experts on, to
just get some context. That's what we'd

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be doing if it wasn't America.
But because it's so far away, we

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feel somewhat I don't know, I
don't know, distant from it. I

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guess, yeah, insulated. Yeah, well yeah, And you're right,

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absolutely right, but it's not that
far and there are Americans involved, and

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but for why should that really be
the dip tipping point? Oh, there's

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Americans there. Now I care because
you're right that it's a humanitarian issue.

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There's nothing quite like planes crashing into
a building. Yeah, and that's insane.

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But I mean, if you just
take what happened last week, and

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you know, if al Qaeda swooped
down on paragliders into acl into Austin city

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limits, I just started kidnapping and
killing. I mean, I hate to

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be such an idiot, but the
music festival angle, really it reminded you

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that because to a lot of people
listening, I think most people listening are

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sort of in the same category as
we are. I think where you admit

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that, look, I'm interested in
this, I do care about this.

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I'm not educated on it. I
want to know more, but for lack

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of a better term, it's kind
of a whipping to try to educate yourself

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on something that's so complex. But
when you simplify it to these people are

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at a music festival, well,
that's something that's real normal, and they're

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dancing and in the distance of a
video you can see paragliders coming down.

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I watched a video on how those
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as well. And I think unfortunately
this thing with Israel telling them to clear

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out of the northern portion of the
Gaza Strip and Israel is zero effing around

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right now. This is about to
getting way way uglier and way way worse.

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Now, whether that's warranted, I
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but I just think we need to
acknowledge this and prepare to have uh,

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you know, a college professor on
or somebody on next week unfortunately to

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discuss it. Oh joh, I
don't know. This might be too heavy,

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so I don't know, but whatever, I'm gonna do it because I

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have a friend who has family and
the Gaza strip and just some text messages

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that happened. Okay, so they're
no words to describe what's happening. We

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won't get out alive. This is
what I'm sure of. This is there's

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a ring of fire everywhere. Even
if we told the whole world this,

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words will not describe what's happening.
No one would imagine this. Gaza has

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been without electricity since two o'clock in
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Of course, electricity was cut off
from hospitals as well. The entire

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city has been paralyzed. I mean, that is what's happening, and that

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is from you know, from it
from a text to a friend here.

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Yeah, yeah, you know who
has family there That is nuts to me,

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and there are and that's what I
mean. That don't make you care

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about it a little bit. It
does. War sucks. We all know

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war sucks, and this is But
imagine not supporting Hamas and being somewhere in

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northern Gaza Strip as a Palestinian and
you know, Israel has all the military

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might of the region and the backing
of us are one of their closest allies,

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which again I think is a good
thing. But you're there, and

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where do you go? You have
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we're coming, We're gonna come.
Flat in the entire northern half of the

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Gaza Strip. I saw you have
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hospitals, no infrastructure, no electricity, no communication. I someone you know,

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expert who's covering this was basically saying, even if they're trying to destroy

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Hamas, the amount of civilians there
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right as well. So it's almost
like, if you're choosing to do this,

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you're choosing to do something that's going
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going to kill so many innocents.
And did they know that? And they

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may have known that maybe they don't
care and why would Hamas do this thousands

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of rockets and paragladder attack on Israel. I know, why be their beliefs,

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and they have a divine right to
do it, to take back their

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land. But they know they're outgunned
by Israel. Yeah, And does some

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us know that they have the backing
of you know, the Ran or Hesbala

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and all this stuff. Maybe,
and they also know the optics of it

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and the cause and effect of it
that they are going to lob these missiles

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in there. They know that retaliation
is inevitable, and retaliation is going to

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involve innocent people, children being massacred
by a counter attack, and they will

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champion that. Look what Israel,
did you know? Yeah? The children?

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Yes, yes, good God.
It's a it's a media war,

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it's a political war, it's a
religious war. It's a mess. It's

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a damn mess. And we are
so insulated from that from that stuff.

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And most people, you know,
and and a lot of our citizens,

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our society in the last fifteen years
has kind of been trained a good portion

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of them to look at news what
is being reported on television as fake,

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as a lie, as not credible
and they're getting their news sources on social

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media from kind of fringe accounts that
are showing maybe not the most accurate rail

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of what's actually going on. So
you can't win in this because the world

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that we live in is so fragmented
and so full of conjecture and misinformation that

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you just it's like, yeah,
let's just talk about Taylor Swift. It's

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just easier as Americans to just talk
about Travis Kelcey, which goes back to

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the question of is it okay not
to fully understand this because of exactly what

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you just said, because it's too
hard. It's too hard. Well,

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yeah, but that's two texts on
two text with people. One guess is

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totally agree. I had to look
up what has palacedine yesterday and I have

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two college degrees, but this is
this is one text I think is right,

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and this is how I try to
think about things. Sometimes says the

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important thing is not to know it
all, but don't run away because it's

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overwhelming, And one hundred percent agree
with that that it is so easy to

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run away from it, for sure, and I don't want to run away

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from especially when we have a job
that we do get to discuss things,

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and we can honestly discuss the fact
that we're discussing it because we don't understand

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it. And I do. Like
I said, I think most of the

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people hearing this right now fall some
We're into that category. Something I was

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thinking about last night when I'm walking
around Town East Mall with my little two

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and a half year old, and
we have just such a false sense of

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security about what day to day life
is. You know, you're in an

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air conditioned mall, There's hundreds of
people walking past you at any given moment.

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Everything's safe. It was fine,
we had a great time, walked

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to the car, drove home,
no accident, we got home alive,

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went to bed, everything was great. To knock that completely off balance,

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can you imagine at the time I'm
at Lids buying a Ranger cap for thirty

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five dollars to how American to support
my baseball team. A missile comes crashing

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through that mall and we see,
you know, hundreds of people just cut

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in half. That's a wake up
call. The people that live over there

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are on edge dealing with that every
day of their lives, no matter where

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they live. We just don't get
it over here. Until you experience that,

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until you were maybe at ground zero
and saw those planes, you don't

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fully have a real understanding of what
that feels like and what that actually means.

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So I'm one of those people.
I haven't experienced a tragedy like that.

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No, it's fascinating and perhaps for
the first time ever, we actually

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discussed the most important thing in the
world. Congratulations, good job, down

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Beat, you did it, Mike, you did it. Magic, We

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did it, and we can do
it all together. We can do it

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all together and counting up next.
Come on, everyone's really thinking about Rangers

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and astros. I mean, it's
what it is, and actually I found

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a ton of crap about it.
And if I would have dove into this

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conflict in the Middle East, I
could have a ton of crap on that,

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But I decided to go the baseball
route. Tons of fun stuff about

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Rangers and astros. Everyone needs to
know that. You can take to your

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water cooler next. I'm ninety seven
to one. The freak

