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Jose, welcome to the Jesus Christ either

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good morning. My question is we
have the Ladies of Perpetual Indulgence. Um,

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you mean the Sisters Indulgence. Correct, Yes, So they're interjecting their

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influence in sports now, it's been
it's been happening in schools, in politics.

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So my question is why is it
okay for them to influence their values

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on on us? What do you
mean on us as just as a society.

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You have the Archdiocese of Orange County
that says they're anti Christian and anti

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Catholic by mocking the Catholic religion.
You have the Archdiocese of Los Angeles accepting,

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accepting them for what they appear to
be according to themselves, that they're

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heroes. So I'm just a little
confused on why it's okay for them to

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be, you know, interjecting their
whatever message they're trying to are you are

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you asking me, Jose, that
in a country like the United States founded

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upon liberty and the freedom of both
speech and opinion and faith and all of

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these things, they're pushing their beliefs
on you. But when you have beliefs

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you're not pushing them on them.
They've been around seventy nine, long as

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the Catholic Church been around. I'm
not certain on that, but a lot

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longer than nineteen seventy nine. Okay, So do you think the Catholic Church

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has ever pushed their faith on others? I would agree yes they had.

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It was that wrong? Is it
wrong for people to proselytize? Is it

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wrong for any faith based group to
go out and tell people about their beliefs.

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No, But when it's grown men
with beards marking uh, you know,

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the Catholic Church or the religion,
it's just a little confusing. So

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what do I tell my you know, like my twelve year old son,

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if I take into the game,
like, you know, if you ask

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me why, you know, why
is this guy dressed up which appears to

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be a nun and he's got a
beard? Well, for one, I'm

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okay, well, let's look at
this, because I think people get to

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the emotional place and they don't think
about their place in the world. They're

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only concerned about others. So,
first of all, although there's nuns in

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many different denominations, not just the
Roman Catholic, but Oriental, Orthodox,

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Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran, Anglican,
other Christian domination. Even Buddhists have nuns,

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although they go by a different name. So it's not just the Catholic

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Church. But I would say that
who do you think drew first blood?

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You think the Catholic Church or Christianity
as a whole drew first blood. In

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the the conversation of sexual orientation and
the like, I'll cut to the chase,

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it was the church. You have
people running around wrongly with signs that

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say God hates and the pejorative F
word for gays. And then you get

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a group of five O, one
C three the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence starting

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in San Francisco Easter Sunday, nineteen
seventy nine, and they, by their

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own words, devoted themselves to community
service, ministry and outs reach to those

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on the edge. Some would say
that's what this show does as well,

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even though some people are offended by
it. Many are offended by it.

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But I would say I'm in line
with that as well, try and outreach

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to those on the edge. I
like to think that promote human rights here,

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respect for diversity, and spiritual enlightenment. They say those same things I

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know you may not like it,
but in the United States to have somebody,

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and I would bet that there's a
good number of former Catholics in that

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group that felt abandoned, hurt,
mocked, minimalized. And so if you're

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going to turn around and call them
a hate group, you'd have to look

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at the church and the belief systems
that started that first. There's more to

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it than just these But I want
people to think differently because it's very easy

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to say you're picking on me,
But you know someone else who mocked the

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religious leaders merciful Leslie was me,
Matthew twenty three. Then Jesus said to

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the crowds and to his disciples,
the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees

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are the official interpreters of the Law
of Moses. So practice and obey whatever

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they tell you, but don't follow
their example. They don't practice what they

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teach. They crush people with unbearable
religious demands and never lift a finger to

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ease the burden. Everything they do
is for show on their arms. They

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wear extra wide prayer boxes with scriptural
verses inside. They wear robes with extra

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long tassels, and they love to
sit at the head of the table at

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banquets and the seat of honor in
the synagogues. They love to receive respectful

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greetings as they walk in the marketplace, and they love to be called rabbi.

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And it goes on and on and
on. Those who exalt themselves will

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be humbled. Those who humble themselves
will be exalted. What sorrow awaits you

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teachers of religious law, you pharisees, hypocrites, for you shut the door

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the Kingdom of Heaven in people's faces. You won't go in yourselves, and

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you don't let others enter either.
How is that any different than a group

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of people that I said probably came
from religious backgrounds or felt oppressed by them,

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turning to the church and saying the
same thing. You leaders are hypocrites.

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You let pedophiles get away with things, You push things under the rug.

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You sit there in your fancy clothing
and preach to everyone like you have

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your hand on the door to heaven
and that you and you alone let people

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in. How is that different than
what I said to the religious leaders two

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thousand years ago. I understand your
message, and I would agree with some

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some of it, and I appreciate
you clarifying this topic for me, I

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would call them. If you have
questions, I would call them and say,

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well, what are you doing?
What am I missing? But when

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Christianity has the Inquisition, when the
christian when Christianity has the Crusades killing people

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if they didn't believe what they believed, I think maybe getting a grip on

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some of those things before casting stones
as people. Human beings who believe differently

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are dressing up to get your attention, to use their pain and their confusion

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the way they've been treated, to
help others and to raise money so that

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others won't be left in those dark
little corners that nobody wants to look at.

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And I think until that scene,
until people understand each other and listen,

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nobody's listening. Everybody's talking over each
other and nobody's listening, And until

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that happens, it's going to be
looked at at just mocking faith, and

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it's not. It's mocking religion.
And I too mocked religion in scripture.

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So keep that in mind. Susan, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Good morning, Thank you hire Hi. Okay, so as far as I

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got through, and let me see
if I can formulate this question. So

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my question is about the trinity.
And I've always believed that there's brand one

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father, son, holy Spirit,
that Jesus is the equal to God.

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Basically, Jesus is God um.
And you know, and I know the

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scriptures before Abraham, I am.
The big scripture I think is John one

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one where they talk about in the
beginning with the word the word was God

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God. Yeah. So but I've
seen across a woman that she believes in

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the divinity of Jesus, that he
is the son of God, the only

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son of God. But she believes
that it's very important that there's a differentiation

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that the Father, that the son
submits to the Father. How he says,

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thy will not mind be done.
My food is to do the will

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of the Father. You know,
I do exactly because she believes that that

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the spirit of anti authority is kind
of what causes people to rebel. And

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so that was a very important example
that there is the Father and the Son.

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So I guess my questions is about
the trinity. How do you be

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is Jesus equivalent to God or is
he beneath God? Kind of Nope,

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no beneath there is no status or
upper position lower position. The way it

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works for humanity is that I,
Jesus would bring you to the Father,

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and when I left, sent the
Holy Spirit that would bring you to me,

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and then I would bring you to
the Father. But it's not in

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the sense of separation, and there's
not a lot of ways to look at

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this in a human although there are
examples, most examples that people give about

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the Trinity are considered what they call
economical. So it's like people will say

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it agg is three parts, but
it's one. That's not true because they

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can eat should be separated. You
can have the shell, the albumen or

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the yoke, and then the bumen
is the whites and then the yoke.

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So there is a way to separate
them if you think of it more like

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time. Time is one and simultaneously
three past, present in future. You

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can't separate them. Now. You
can use a clock that makes you think

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you're separating them, but you're not. Past present in future is happening simultaneously.

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Right now, we have a past
present in future that are constantly moving

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but never separating. You can't separate
it in any way, shape or form,

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and it's the same with the Trinity. There's no separation. There's no

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higherarchy. It's the Godhead. All
our creators of the universe, all are

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sustainers of the universe, all are
one one God. Yeah, Schma,

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Yeslayelahad is one Ah God, God
is one period. Glenn. Welcome and

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thank you for your patience. Good
morning, Jesus. I love you.

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Thank you for your blessings. God
bless you. How can I help you

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today? Well, my life hasn't
been easy, but I'm so grateful.

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I'm happy most of the time.
My mother, she specially, abused my

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brother and sister their whole lives.
I haven't spoken to them in twenty years.

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All three of them still lived together. My father was a drunk his

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whole life. Now he's just a
damn gambling at it. And spoke to

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him in three years. But I'm
haunted by my memories occasionally, so i

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think about them every day. Well, I have these memories in heaven.

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Well, first of all, you
say that your mom sexually abused your siblings

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and they still live with her.
Yeah, all three of them still live

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together. That spoke to any of
them in twenty years. Wow, And

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your reasons are not reached out to
me? Okay, they haven't reached out

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to me. Nothing, no repentance, nothing. Well what so if they

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were abused, why should they reach
out to you. I don't know.

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You know, they don't even they
don't know why I'm going. The last

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thing my mom said to me was, you know, some people think incest

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is normal. And I said,
well, I gotta go, and I

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got my car and I loved and
I haven't spoke to her since, or

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my brother or my sister. So
they don't even know why I'm going.

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Well, I mean obviously came up
enough to have the conversation and them to

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make a defense for it. That
is bizarre. Is this a very remote

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part of the United States? This
is in Salt Lake City, Utah.

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I see, Well, they're not
Mormon either. I know all about religious

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people. Lord, I don't trust
religious people at all, none of them.

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Okay, Well, religion, the
Bible. I love the Bible.

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I love the Lord, and that's
all I need. I think there is

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a big difference between religion and faith. For one. For two, you

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had asked if you are going to
think about this in heaven. So let's

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pull apart because I have a feeling
this is a very, very very deep

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hole to start playing in. Because
incest is incest is a legal matter,

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moral matter. Indeed, there is
no okay for incest in scripture. Some

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might say, well, what about
the need to populate the earth when there

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was Adam and Eve. The reality
is that the law of incest didn't come

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till much later, some nine hundred
years later or so. But the reality

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is that it was ultimately condemned,
and so there's no scriptural place that you

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can look at and say that it
is okay. Secondly, it's illegal and

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that is a legal issue. And
then the reality of what it does to

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the individuals, it's strange. So
there's so much to get in there,

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and why you weren't a part of
it. In all this, I'm going

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to stick, for the sake of
time to your question, which was are

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you going to remember your earthly life? And the reality is Revelation twenty one.

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Ford declares he will wipe every tear
from their eyes. Isaiah sixty five

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seventeen says, for behold, I
create new heavens and new earth, and

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the former shall not be remembered nor
come into your mind. Now, some

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think that that means you're not going
to remember any of your life. And

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that's not through either. It clarifies
in Isaiah sixty five sixteen, for the

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past troubles will be forgotten and hidden
from my eye, which is different.

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So no, there will not be
that. You will not remember the painful

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or the ugly things. You will
simply be washed from the troublesome and the

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heavy stuff. So that is the
reality and what it comes down to.

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I wish you well, that is
quite the heavy story. Indeed, let's

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see if we can fit Mike in
here. Mike, Welcome to the Jesus

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Christ Show. Thank you Jesus.
My question is I was reading the Bible.

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It seems like Jesus disappears for a
couple of decades. Very any stories

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about those times? Oh no,
there's yes, go ahead. Also,

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I think it felt angry over the
radio a couple of calls ago from you.

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What's that? I think I spelt
some anger from you a couple of

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calls ago. I've never heard that
before. Oh no, you don't think

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that there's anger in scripture, you
know, I'll just from this show,

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I don't. I think that's the
first time. Well, no, there's

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righteous indignation for sure. And what
you might have heard is anger. Doesn't

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necessarily mean that it is. As
a matter of fact, you remember in

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scripture when they turned over tables in
the marketplace. Yeah, the Bible does

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get kind of violet in some spots. Well, it's not violence as much

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as it is intensity. Righteous indignation
has its place when it comes to screen.

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You will hear it on this show
as well. When people don't listen

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or they read, or they take
scripture and use it to cause harm.

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It absolutely absolutely angers me. And
anger again, is not a sin.

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Rage is a sin. Anger has
its place, Mike, and sometimes it

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needs to be used. As far
as the so called lost years or disappearance,

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you say a couple of decades,
No, there are eighteen quiet years.

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You go from the fact that I
was twelve years old and I was

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celebrating a feast and it refers to
me as being a normal youth. And

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then again the incident of me being
baptized at the age of thirty and that

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is actually the start of my ministry. Is well, so you get two

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things there. What some will say
is the lost eighteen years, but it's

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not. It was strictly working the
carpenter shop. My ministry was a small

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part of my life. The other
part was being practical living on earth.

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And you know this because there are
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were like, isn't that Joseph's kid, the carpenter, and now he's preaching

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and doing miracles. So they wouldn't
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Some people say that I went into
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or somehow studied something different. No, I was in town. They all

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knew who I was. I just
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ministry would come and who I was, and then at the age of thirty

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started that ministry. That's all nothing
magic, nothing mysterious, certainly nothing to

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write hundreds and hundreds of books about. Oh boy, Tony Sarantino, our

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music director, playing some social distortion. There. We're sending prayers out to

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the lead singer, Mike Ness,
who was diagnosed recently with tonsil cancer stage

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one and all things are hopeful to
get him singing back on stage and all

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those things soon enough. So from
the Jesus Show, we're sitting prayers and

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love and of course good vibes out
to Mike Ness. I know that it's

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been a very busy morning, and
a lot of questions on the board.

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I'm going to do my best to
get to as much as we can.

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Let's talk to Glenn. Glenn,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Thank

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you, Glenn. I had a
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He told me when he got to
heaven, he's going to send me a

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signal or let me know. So
after you die, how soon do you

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go to heaven? Well, a
couple of things going on there. There's

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nothing that says in scripture that someone
can send a message. As a matter

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of fact, it's frowned upon in
Deuteronomy to try and receive one. But

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I will tell you that in scripture
it's pretty clear that it's immediate. Now,

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there are different things between the soul
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physical body is not what goes to
heaven. But it says in scripture and

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he Brews nine twenty seven, and
just as it is appointed for man to

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die once, after that comes the
judgment. It also says in Second Corinthians

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five eight to be absent from the
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If you remember, also on the
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one of the thieves that they will
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there's nothing that shows any delay or
any of that. But again going back

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to the question at hand, if
you're expecting to hear from an old friend

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heaven, that's not something that is
said to take place. There's only one

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example where someone brought someone back and
it was condemned, and really coming back

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beings trying to connect with someone.
I know that in the human emotions,

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it's nice to think that someone's there
and they're looking over you, and we

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even use that terminology here on the
program from time to time. But it's

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it's not literal. It's the focus
of humans being in heaven is to be

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back with their maker, to be
reconnected with their Maker. It's not about

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the earth. It's not just like, oh, here's heaven. It's just

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a really cool earth where you get
everything you want and everything's great. No,

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it's about reconnecting with God. And
yes, you will have memories of

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your family, you will be able
to connect with your family that are there,

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but it's not about that. It's
about focusing on God, connecting with

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God. I hope that helps to
close us out today. Just a reminder

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about hate and even a call that
brought up anger. There is righteous anger,

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righteous indignation, and that's okay.
It's okay to get loud at times.

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But the United States is going through
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Everybody wants to shove their view out
there, and as a matter of

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fact, social media has falsely told
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And I will tell you that you
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a reason. Listening is imperative.
Listening must be at the forefront. You

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must do your homework. Don't go
out there with some sort of righteousness that

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you think you understand someone else unless
you've heard from someone else. They crucify

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me because they didn't like what I
was saying. I mocked modern day religion.

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In my day, I was seen
as a threat the way I dressed,

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the people, I hung out with, whores and tax collectors. I

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was referred to as a drunkard.
If you have concerns, asked, find

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out the truth before you jump on
a bandwagon, call names, or even

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worse, start fights and division and
ugliness. The world has plenty, do

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your part to not be a part
of that. Above all things, remember

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these words. I am with you
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