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makes it cool, my godness, being

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Frank. The only way to be
is Frank. Hello everyone, and welcome

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to being Frank. We're the only
way to be is Frank. I'm your

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host, Frank Lebuono, and i'd
like to thank you for joining us on

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what we like to call the Intelligent
Conversation podcast, where no conversation is out

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of bounds and all points of view
are welcome. We're going live to tape

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as we normally do the week after
Thanksgiving. It's the last day of November

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the thirtieth, and I certainly hope
that everyone had something to be thankful during

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this past Thanksgiving. Some, if
not most, celebrated the holiday with a

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lavish feast, dining on massive turkeys
with all the trimmings. It is as

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much a part of the day's tradition
as the actual giving of thanks But these

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are tough times in so many ways, both on a global scale as well

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as a local one. War rages
in Ukraine and Gaza, where thousands of

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innocent lives have already been lost,
and many of our neighbors still struggle to

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put enough food on the table to
feed their families. What we need are

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dedicated people to offer simple prayers for
challenging times and offer their considerable talents to

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make the world a better place for
all of us. And in just a

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minute, we'll meet two of them
on this edition of Being Frank. First,

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Rita Harvey, the Star, Phantom
of the Opera, Fiddler on the

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Roof, next to Normal, and
many other Broadway productions and folks that don't

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remind you, these are very truncated
biographies. If I were to read both

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of our guests biographies in their entirety, we wouldn't have time for the program.

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They're that accomplished, So hopefully they'll
forgive me as I said, these

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are very well abbreviated, but I
will continue, okay. She has teamed

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up this holiday season with New York
Times bestselling author, composer, and classic

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music critic Peter Danish for an incredibly
special new CD named, appropriately enough,

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Simple Prayers for Challenging Times. It's
a collection of short prayers from numerous faiths

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set to original music by Danish and
performed by Harvey. The CD contains original

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compositions and a few traditionals in fresh
arrangements. Arrangements. Excuse me, including

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Sacred Catholic, Jewish, Baptist,
Arabic, Orthodox Christian texts, and others.

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They are also performing the CD live
as a fundraiser for People to Eat,

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People to People, the largest food
bank in Rockland County, New York.

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We'll have more on that specifically with
dates and tickets, etc. A

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little bit later on, but now
let's meet Rita Harvey and Peter Danish.

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Thanks guys for joining us here on
being Frank really appreciated your busy people.

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Thanks for let's talk about the original
germination, if you will, the germ

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of the project, simple prayers for
challenging times and even though as I said,

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it's certainly very appropriate for now with
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but this was really kind of hatch
during another challenging time in our lives COVID,

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which it's not hyperbole to say change
the world for all of us.

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Both of you either take How did
that germ come about as it related to

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the to the pandemic? Who wants
to take it? I'll take it?

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Okay. Hi, great to be
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our COVID project. We were talking
quite a bit during COVID about how artists,

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you know, especially performing artists.
You know, we were not able

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to do what we love to do. We were just kind of left marooned,

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especially singers. I mean, it
was said and Covid that was the

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worst thing you could do was be
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actually sing in a room with people. So it was rough for a while.

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A lot of my singer friends and
myself included, you know, didn't

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sing at all. We just sort
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know. But during one conversation with
Peter, we were talking about that,

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and he has lots of brother singer
and musician friends. He said, listen,

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I have some prayers and songs that
I've written. Do you want to

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just record them? Do a little
demo, you know, in a safe

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environment. We went into a studio
with masks on and it's basically just he

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and I and I quick take a
mask off, singing from and put it

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back on. And but it,
you know, it turned into something fun.

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We started to kind of experiment with
different tracks and he brought in different

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tracks of different instrumentals, and you
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I knew this about Peter. He's
brilliant and everything, but he's you know

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was great at arranging these songs and
coming up with neat you know, things

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to do with the tracks, and
and we said, you know, let's

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let's make a CD out of this. This is working. And uh started

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out with he brought me some mass
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And then we said, you know, let's expand it out to other religions.

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We don't want this to be just
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be all people and it, you
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to people to be able to meditate
to, something continue please please, just

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something that that would calm people.
You know, the times were rough,

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and you know, we worked hard
at finding a vocal quality and a and

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a kind of a signature sound that's
very calm and meditative. And there are

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a few uptempo things. But and
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very meditative, but to universal crowd, not just Catholic or Christian, but

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to everyone. Per perfect segue for
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be somewhat of a of a daunting
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I mean, it's tough enough.
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here certainly was anyway, I'm sure, I'm sure I'm long excommunicated. But

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that's a that's a podcast for another
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that's a recovering Catholic. So uh, you know, certainly, having gone

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to a parochial grammar school, I'm
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of the other religions, certainly not
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to create songs, et cetera.
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What was your what was your method
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the nail on the head. We
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artist friends were feeling, feeling the
downtime during COVID a lot deeper than a

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lot of other folks were, because
they just weren't able to ply their trades.

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And in the case of singers especially, your trade is more than just

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a trade. Your trade is who
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not singing, they're only half of
who they really are, you know.

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And I saw Rida. I saw
Rita in a lot of pain, basically

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because she was just dying. She
said, Danish, I have to sing

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something. What do you got And
I said, I was working on something

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for another singer, a metropolitan opera
singer, a Prele Milo. I worked

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on a song with her about five
six years ago. It was an Avi

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Maria for the children of Haiti.
It was a relief single for the Hurricane

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Matthew recovery and it did very nicely. I still hear it in the mall

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on the holidays when I'm walking around. But it was a duet, and

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I said to Rita, do you
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you want to try singing both parts? And She's like, oh yeah.

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And because something that a lot of
folks may not realize is that Rita is

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a trained opera singer and that's what
she went to school for. Initially,

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that was her you know, her
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So this gave her a chance to
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I've known Rita, you know,
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Yeah, and generally speaking, I
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for years doing Broadway stuff, and
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know each other, she played me
recordings of stuff she had done. We

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did the Hudson Valley Opera Fest together
a couple times where she got a chance

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to really show her you know,
to strut her stuff in that world,

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and to my mind, that was
where her voice really shined. So it

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just seemed like a logical kind of
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the classical side. And it also
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her voice that I really loved when
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and I really, I really leaned
towards the more lyrical Broadway stuff that I

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heard her do rather than the more
modern stuff and the more the patter stuff,

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which is all fine, but I
think you hear the beauty of the

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voice more in the long legato phrasing
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lends itself to the opera tradition.
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for a prelay. At the time
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But when we sat down, Rita
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could make this kind of non denominational
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to me was she uses the word
meditative. I thought of contemplative, was

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kind of the word more or less
the same idea, But the bottom line

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was it was music for people who
were hurting. Hence the title Simple Prayers

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for Challenging Times. We were hoping
folks could sit back, have a glass

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of wine, listen, and just
get some solace as everybody was just so

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incredibly tense and so stressed and so
frustrated during COVID. So we had a

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couple of upbeat tunes, but generally
speaking, we tried to keep it more

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on an even keel, music that
people could sit back and not listen to

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one track but listen to the entire
CD from start to finish. And No,

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what I was going to say was
that Rita was up to the challenge.

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She's whatever I threw at her.
She said, let's give it a

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shot. And we wound up.
She wound up. I didn't have to

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sing, she wounds up. She
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the first CD, in myriad styles. Uh. And when you speak of

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the challenges, the challenges for me
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It was It was fun. I
got to be honest with the musicology is

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fun. Doing the research is fun. I learned more preparing for this CD

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about the history of music, probably
because it's so steeped in religion. There's

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no getting away from it. That
that was music was paid for for centuries

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by first by the church, then
by the rich, and then you know,

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by the companies, and now by
other companies again. So it was

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we were able to because we produced
it ourselves, to get away from all

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that and really do exactly what we
wanted. And she didn't say, she

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didn't say no to anything basically that
that we discussed, you could say,

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she could say yes and six different
languages. I want to I want to

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ask you a little bit about that. Reader, Are you fluent at six?

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Did you or did you have to
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native languages? Tell us about that. No, I am not fluent.

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Peter's wife is right, she's a
yes. No. When you study opera,

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you do have to be familiar with
the three big languages, which are

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Italian, French, and German.
So I'm quite familiar with I'm not fluent,

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but I'm familiar with Italian, French
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we kept finding prayers and chants and
you know, songs from all kinds

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of other languages, and at that
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Happened to be that I found people
that were native speakers, such as Peter's

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wife. We worked on the slavitegos
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She helped me out with that.
I happened to have one of my dearest

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friends is Ukrainian. She talked me
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the Welsh, you know, I
just did a lot of research. Listen

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to Brin Turfel, listen to you
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and of course you do the research
as to what these songs, what these

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words mean. You know. Of
course I don't know every single word right

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now. They sort of feel like
syllables to me. But I you know,

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it did go through and translate,
so at least I have a very

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good idea of what these words mean. So it just takes a little bit

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more research. And you know,
very lucky to have Sanella and my friend

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to talk me through the Ukrainian and
Slavic because that's and Randy Schwitz for that

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with the Hebrew, right, let's
talk about that. It was a collaborative

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effort. You had people Obviously you
guys spearheaded the effort, but there were

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collaborative efforts from other musicians, linguists, lyricists, et cetera. About some

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of the people who were involved with
the CD. We always with any project,

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you end up going to experts for
various things and just gathering knowledge from

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every place you can. I know
Peter did go ahead. Peter has all

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kinds of people he talked to.
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fun of it. I'll tell you
going back a little bit, when I

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mentioned that the Ave Maria that we
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a prelay said to me, oh, find us for an orchestra. I

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don't have an orchestra. Do you
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classical critic for Broadway World, So
I kind of put out an APB on

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Broadway World and said, if anyone
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part of a charitable single with the
world famous opera singer, I will send

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you the part with a click track
and you can be a part of this

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charity effort. Well it was.
It was successful way beyond my imagination and

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became a nightmare when I got like
a hundred tracks, and of course nobody

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listened to what I told him to
do. Nobody played to the click.

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I said, don't put any reverb, don't put any Everybody put junk on

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it. It was such a mess
trying to trying to mix and master it.

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And then we reached reached out to
our mutual friend, Frank Fagnano,

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producer extraordinaire, who's going to be
playing the drums with us on January the

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thirteenth. Frank worked at the Hit
Factory for many years, and he worked

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at Tony Bennett's studio down in Englewood
for many many years, and I gave

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him all the tracks and said,
make something out of this, and he

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did. But he also working with
him helped me fear the production process a

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lot less. So when Rita and
I started down this road, I was

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not as afraid of playing all the
tracks myself, because in the studio,

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you make a mistake, you throw
it out, you do it again.

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That's good and it's bad. Tell
you why. Now, as we set

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out to play the thing live for
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you need a heck of a lot
of musicians to try and reproduce this stuff.

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In the studio, you could throw
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can't have thirty players laying around unless
you've got an awful lot of money.

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But what I was getting at was
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broadstroke, and I wasn't afraid to
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a friend who's the conductor of the
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Haaji Laizu, because I was having
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Mother Teresa, which I had written
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drinking a song you know you know
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had a tremendous amount of difficulty because
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about was we couldn't believe no one
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the twentieth century. And then when
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why, Because every line is a
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is different. It was a nightmare
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worked kind of in this waltz feeling. I sent it to my buddy,

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he said, at the piano,
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for it, absolutely gorgeous piano arrangement
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then suddenly the whole thing fell into
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energy, and it's one of the
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and everybody loves it because everybody knows
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that one obviously, and Rita is
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who's named Teresa. You see,
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relate. Well, you know what, let's listen to a cut. We

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have this little light of mine.
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expect to hear? Okay, this
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couple of hundred year old spiritual from
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know it, but not this type
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it's not quite as jaunty as the
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much more of a prayer. And
the idea came to me last but two

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years ago. Now when did when
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Two years ago, and one of
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said, stay tuned. We have
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And the NASA had made audio recordings
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in the universe. And it was
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it's about five octaves lower than what
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low. But yet they had to
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us to hear. But I heard
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energy to it, and suddenly I
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here. I took the recording of
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I put it onto the keyboard and
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the music in the background is actually
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So she did a duet with the
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duet with the Sun. From simple
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Harvey and Peter Danish, this is
this little light of mine, this little

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light of lone. I'm gonna lead
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line all I'm gonna lead shore,
this little light of lone. I'm gonna

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lead it. Shine headed shine,
lady shine leader, shop. Oh three,

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the I'm gonna leading it chop all
three. Then look through the leading

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chap leady shop lead chop leader chop
three. We I'm gonna learned shop made

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it shock shock. That was this
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for Challenging Time, Rita Harvey and
Peter Danish with a special cameo duet by

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the Sun itself a great, really
interesting story. We'll try to get in

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a few more songs off the disc. We've got to go for a break

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in a little while. I'm going
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to People, the Food Bank of
which will be the beneficiary of your immense

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talents in a concert coming up.
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We'll plug it a couple of times. People can come and hear the

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entire CD. You'll be performing it
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why don't we start plugging it now? And then go back into our discussion

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it'll be at the Living Christ Church
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and that's going to be at seven
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How can people get tickets? And
again we'll remind them again before the end

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of the program, but let's get
it in a few times. How can

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people get They get it at the
people to people dot org website. Terrific

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guys so far and as you mentioned, the the disc has been out for

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a while at this point. Overall, how how's the response? Well,

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well, let me let me read
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Elliott Farrest, who is as a
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q x R and very involved here
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rocks, And he said, Simple
Prayers is a lush mix of new and

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familiar melodies and texts for many of
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as clear as a bell, whether
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songs are a soothing respite for our
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that's been That's got to feel pretty
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it been received? What has the
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te Ghos, but a huge hid
in Europe. Apparently it's there's been how

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like thousands and thousands of downloads apparently, Yeah, we're getting it's kind of

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it's kind of interesting because of all
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uh, Slavi Teo is an Orthodox
Christian Yugoslavian song that I knew from my

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childhood. But when you when you
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done by old men in long black
robes, with long black beards and tall

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black hats. So when I think
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I think Rita Harvey. So so
I brought it to the Fortunately,

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no visuals, I can assure everybody
read A Harvey is far. I'm a

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man with a long dark beard and
long dark hair, and I just want

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to get that straight in case they
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we did was and that's another that's
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There's a sleigh bell and that's about
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hear is Rita. She sings all
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the very very low to the very
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put her all across the thing.
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at times like it sounds at times
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her. And ironically, I got
an email from Spotify saying, you are

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you are trending in in Estonia,
followed by I would Estonia, that would

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be okay, followed by you are
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in Latvia. You're trending in Bulgaria. You're trending, And I like,

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wow, that's pretty cool. So
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know, the CD at the publisher, and I saw that it was getting,

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you know, like it had tens
of thousands of listens uh and and

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was getting thousands of listens a day
in Central Europe. And the funny thing

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was, when you look at this, the preponderance of evidences, they like

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to say, you see, all
the tunes are doing okay, ten listens

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a day, twenty listens day,
six thousand listens a day, ten listens

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a day, twelve listens. It
was so ridiculously disproportionate to all the rest

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combined that and that led us to
a year ago when when Russia invaded the

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Ukraine. I knew a beautiful old
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I brought it to Rita and she
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have a friend who can help me
with this, and that's the prayer for

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Ukraine. And we're going to end
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that song as well too. I'm
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so proud of how that turned out. It just I think it sounds so

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beautiful. I'm so proud of it, and I love Peter. Tell them

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the story about the string quartet that
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have I have a couple of friends
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the Infinito string quartet, and they've
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a contract basis. And I shot
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guys doing? Are you okay during
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we're hanging in there. You know, bombs are going off at night.

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said, boy, I'd love to
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know you're too And they said,
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Give us as much work as you
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to work. It keeps our mind
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sense of normalcy. And they did
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drink. We'll be hearing that.
But it's again, I keep using the

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same Hackney phrases, but it's another
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social conscience. It's obvious the whole
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is socially aware. The fact that
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to raise money for food bank,
obviously as a testament to your commitment to

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social justice et cetera. How important, And I'd like both of you to

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answer, is it to for you
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methods of social justice in your music
and what you do? That's extremely important?

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I mean, especially in times like
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sing about these things, but also
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because you know, it was I
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to put one out that actually hopefully
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like we said, we wanted it
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them solace, that would bring them, you know, something they could meditate

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to. And you know, the
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was for our dear friends and for
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it's more of a let's put this
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just a fun project for ourselves,
which it absolutely was, but you know,

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let's have this actually make a difference
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our goal. Peter, your thoughts. Well, when I first met Rita,

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as we said, twenty thousand years
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was struck by was that she and
her husband did a tremendous amount of benefit

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work. It seemed like every month
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And Arita is on the board of
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York. And when I wrote a
book a few years ago, a speech

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coaching book, and I decided to
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County, which is homes for homeless
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People because I knew Diane Saati,
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you know, she's a wonder woman
the amount of work that she does,

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and she's literally doing God's work.
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hey, would you do a benefit
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would? She says, I just
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just so perfect for our message.
Would you consider that? And I rang

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up Rita, and of course I
knew she'd say yes, and two seconds

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yeah, And we do anything for
Diane and the cause, you know,

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couldn't be better. Not to get
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that we have starving families in Rockland
County is just a disgrace. It's shameful

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in this day and age we have
we have. As the line goes,

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there's more, There's more than enough
for everybody. There's no reason for anyone

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to go hungry, especially in a
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to be joining us after the break. I'd like to get one more song

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in Before we take that break and
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of People of People, talk a
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January, and she has another one
getting Saucy, that she would love to

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talk about, which I'm involved in. We'll plug a little bit more of

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that later, but before we go, another one of your songs I think

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very appropriate considering what's going on a
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in particular, Sholomkam, which is
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Tell us a little bit about that
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you know that figive me for interrupting
Rita the In doing the homework for the

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second CD, I looked into I
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faiths, and I found something really
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world has this one phrase in common, and that phrase is peace be with

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you. Virtually every faith has peace
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of its, uh you know,
cardinal dogma. And I found that especially

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especially ironic in these times when uh, far too frequently we're seeing we're singing

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so much violence and horror that's related
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was one of those things that the
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going on was really something and this
one. I brought it to reader.

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She she loved it immediately, and
she went to our dear friend Randy Schebitz

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to help her make certain that we
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We got that, we got announcing
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think it's one of the most beautiful
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Holidays music, all the service music
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this is I think one of the
most beautiful melodies soever. So I was

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thrilled to be able to do it
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out. Let's have it take us
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back, we'll continue our discussion.
Bring Diane's sarritory of people to people to

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join with us and talk a little
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help their neighbors here in Rockland County. I'm your host, Frank Lebono.

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This is being Frank, and we're
listening to some music simple prayers for challenging

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Times by Rita Harvey and Peter Danish. My very special guest tonight and this

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is Shalom Alekam Shupham Maloka Shot Maloka, Malaca, ny Ma god Fo sh

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sh shocky a car go strong,
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by Rains of the Rocks, noting
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from the lock to the Cocky's no
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so far, I've been Rita Harvey
and Peter Danish as they discuss their CD

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Simple Prayers for Challenging Times and a
special performance live performance coming up in January

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for the benefit of people to people
and without further ado speaking of people to

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people is my good friend, our
good friend, I should say, he

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just working woman, not only in
show business but in nonprofit Diane Sarah Torre,

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Dianne, thank you once again for
joining us here on Big Frank,

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Thank you for having me, and
thank you all for so much. So

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well again, let's we just came
through Thanksgiving and you're tired, gal.

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I'm sure because it's got to be
one of your busiest times. How many

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meals did you manage to serve to
hungry people this year? Well? So

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far, this year, People People's
Food Pantry has provided about one point five

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million meals. We have at least
ninety to one hundred households coming to us

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every single day. Just to put
this in some kind of context. When

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I started decades and a lifetime ago
in two thousand and eight, Delores Traeger,

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who was the head of the organization
at the time, said, never

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schedule more than twenty appointments a day. And now we have eighty ninety one

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hundred and on Thursdays when we're open
until seven, we have like one hundred

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and forty two appointments a day.
Yeah, and I have spoken to all

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of you about this. Read has
been very involved in good Stock and we

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talk about this a lot. There's
an awful lot of people in need in

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Rockland County, and at some point
the county is going to have to address

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the bigger issues around that. Because
I can keep giving people food. Actually,

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I don't know how much longer,
you know, how much when do

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we hit capacity? You know?
But there are bigger issues out there,

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and I try to convey them.
But if we don't do something about housing,

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something about childcare, something about language
skills, and something about you know,

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some vilifying the poor, that we
are going to continue to have this

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issue, so it's way bigger issues. That good news is Folks like all

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of you have done so much to
help us do what we need to do,

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but it isn't getting easier, and
it has to get done because there

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are people hungry in this county and
that's just not okay. What's especially tragic

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to me is I've been living in
Rockland now thirty going on thirty three years.

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It's incomprehensible that the problem is worse
than ever. It's just INCOMPREHENSI there's

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a lot of reasons for that.
When they cut federal safety net programs like

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Snap and Universal Breakfast and lunch,
people that were doing their very best to

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get by suddenly, you know,
when you take forty percent of their assistance

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away, what are they going to
do? They don't have any other choice.

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It's getting increasingly expensive to live in
Rocklin County. You know, I

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hate to use that guy that ran
for president. The rents are too damn

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high. But you know, he
had a point then. I think he

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might have been crazy on the other
aspects. But that is an issue,

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you know, nobody wants to talk
about. Affordable housing. That word has

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like you know, it gets people
all nervous. But yeah, we've got

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to do something about making sure that
the people who live here and work in

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the jobs that nobody else wants to
do have some place to live here.

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Yes, live here and seniors.
You know, we've seen a gigantic increase

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in seniors. And technically I am
one, but these folks own their homes,

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but taxes go up and utilities go
up, and their medical expenses go

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up, and so what are they
supposed to do? They don't want to

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move. This is where their family
is, this is where they built,

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help build the community. So you
know, there are way bigger issues here

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at some point, and every time
I talk to the electeds, and you

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all know I get to talk to
them a lot, we have to start

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to think about the bigger picture.
I don't know if that's ever going to

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happen. I started talking about affordable
housing when I was in leadership Brooklyn in

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two thousand and one, and as
you can see, great strides have been

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made not since then. Well,
you know, Diane, you're always working

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to try to You mentioned good Stock
with Rita's husband Neil Burgh. Rita Rita

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herself, is a myriad of other
artists, very talented people throughout the Rockland

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and North Bergen area. As good
as it gets. It's again, it's

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a classic fun event that helps to
raise money. And you're always trying to

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do something that that's appropriate, suitable
and enjoyable. And you've got a couple

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coming up. This is plug time, so let's let's start with the plug.

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Next one coming up in December.
What's what's the day? December?

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December eleventh, eleventh eleven says what
the hell girls are you doing on a

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Monday? Get getting saucy? Yes, this started several years ago. I

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can't really remember when. It was
started by Jen White who was the then

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mayor of Nayak and lou Falco.
Jen used to have this Halloween thing and

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she'd served sauce and everybody you know
would go there, a lot of elected

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officials and lou Falco, the sheriff, went and was tasting the sauce and

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Jen said, so what do you
think and he went, mine's better,

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which you know, frankly, how
to how to make yourself feel good to

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the hostess, welcome, come on
back. So when they told me this

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story, we're like this could be
a great thing. We'll make a sauce

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competition. Paul Pipperato, who is
no longer with us but is still greatly

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she loved he was part of it. Tom brasilar from Owen, r Dorothy

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Philoramo. You know, they all
have names that except for Jen and they

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were the original get saucy gang.
And we have continued and you know every

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year we try to bring in some
other folks to compete against it. Lou

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Falco is the winningest judge's choice with
the sheriff you know have lost. He

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lost last year for the first time
to his nemesis, Tom Brasila of O

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and R. The two of them
beat each other up. I mean Tom

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Brazilara actually took pictures of lou Falco
in a supermarket getting taking RAGU off the

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shelf and put it on Facebook.
I'm not kidding. This very serious.

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So lou is going to defend because
Tom won last year. And I have

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to tell you, I don't know, like they bring their sauces in.

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Then Angelo at the Naya Seaport and
his matred d They give each one a

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number. I don't know which number
goes with which chef, and then the

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judges taste it, and then they
come to me and tell me the number,

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the one, and then I go
to Angela and say, okay,

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who was number blah blah. And
last year they gave me the number.

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It was two relatively new judges,
and he gave me the number, and

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the mader d came over and she
looked at me and I went, oh

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my god, this is not gonna
be I said. Tom Brasilara won and

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he's going to be thrilled. But
I said to the judges, you probably

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want to leave now, because you
know, after you. So he did

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take it well, the sheriff,
you know, kind of and so now

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they're back and I kind of pitched
it as the go Lou calls it gravy

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00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.519
because he puts me in it a
lot of it apparently, so he's the

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00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:37.519
guru of gravy versus Tom, who
is the Prince of produce. When I

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00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.880
was talking to Tom, he sent
me a text he goes, wait a

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00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:44.159
minute, he's not the guru.
You're making it sound like he knows what

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00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:46.639
he's doing. He's like the goombah
of sauce. And I'm like, yeah,

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I can't put that on the people
that people fly. You know,

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I can't do that, but you
can. And they are already getting already.

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We have got some great new folks
other competitors that are going up against

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the two of them. One is
Frank Lebono, who is Sicilian cheap you

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00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:19.159
know one week camp Morales from social
media. Yes he is. And Tiffany

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who is on our board. She's
a new board member, very excited.

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And Lisa Seratory Castelnova, Yes she
is my cousin. But I am not

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a judge. The other thing Tom
said, he goes, wait a minute,

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Lisa saratoris you have a sister who
glows her own tomatoes, makes your

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own sauce. She's got a ringer
here. And I said, well,

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she's not my sister, because well
there's a family resemblance. And I just

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said, but I'm not a judge. What's very exciting, I think is

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00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:52.440
that Jeanie from the food writer for
the Journal News is going to be one

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of the judges. And she doesn't
ordinarily do this, I've been told,

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00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.880
but she's very much looking forward to
doing this. So it's either going to

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00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:07.239
be very exciting very distressing for lou
Edward time. How do people come and

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00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.880
become involved and and and things.
Give us, give us this the facts,

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00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.400
man give us. They can do
is go to our website, people

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00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.239
to people ink dot org and buy
tickets. We've got sponsors O and rs.

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00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:22.960
The sponsor Howard Hannah ran Realty is
a sponsor and of course Deputy mayor

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00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:30.199
mayor soon to become NYA mayor.
Joe Rand is the MC. He he

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really does. Peter, You and
and Frank were at down the shore and

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00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:39.239
Peter he was terrific. So really
job. He's very committed to this organization.

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And I'm very grateful. And you
get to eat great pasta too,

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00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:49.719
Yes, great spa. So go
onto the website or you can look on

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00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:52.760
our Facebook page. You can just
click on the butt but and get tickets.

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00:51:53.679 --> 00:52:05.920
You mean, don't you. I
mean, well, I'm going to

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00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:12.159
make the sauce. I mean my
Italian grandmother Irish, but she made a

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00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:15.960
great sauce. My nanny made a
great sauce. It was never called gravy.

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00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:22.440
Gravy is brown, Okay, eternal
to be. Let's let's talk a

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little bit about also the Rita and
Peter's events. Simple prayers for challenging times

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00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:36.079
coming up in January, tell us
a little bit more about that. It's

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an incredible event that the music is
so moving. You know, just because

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COVID is over doesn't mean we have
put all those issues behind us. We

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00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:57.480
are still living in incredibly challenging times
and you know, we all get so

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00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:05.400
polarized, you know, and this
is an opportunity really for the community to

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00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:14.039
come together in a very positive way
to say that simple prayers. There are

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simple ways to make things better,
and that's to listen to each other and

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hear what others are saying, be
it in song or in word. But

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we are all in this together.
This is our community, and we have

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00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:31.880
to find a way for us all
to be in the same room to make

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00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:37.239
make our community better for everyone.
You know, we can't be it's either

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this side or that side. We
have to find a way. And music

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00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:52.719
really is the great motivator united.
It does. It unites people. And

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00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:55.679
I really can't tell you how much
I thank Rita and Peter. I know

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you put so much work into this. I'm and part used to do it

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00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:05.320
on Martin Luther King weekend, which
is very appropriate. You know, we

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00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:08.119
all want to see our community better
place. I say this often I say

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00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:10.639
it, Jess, but I would
say I may not get there with you

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00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:17.360
like Martin, but I believe that
we can't and we have to. We

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00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:22.920
have to try, We have to
try. If we all do a little

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00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:27.920
bit, we can make a big
difference for our neighbors in need. And

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00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:31.440
this is a big bit, but
it really is a way to get people

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00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:37.159
into the same place and have their
hearts healed and move forward. Is a

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00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.920
tree coming out of retirement and singing
with us. I am actually yes,

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00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:50.239
I want to practice fantastic. That
was hard to convince her. We're just

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00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:52.360
about out of time. Read.
I want you to introduce our final song

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to Prayer for uk Ukraine. Tell
us a little bit more about that,

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00:54:55.280 --> 00:55:00.039
But Peter, I want to have
you take a few moments to to share

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your final thoughts on why people should
come and see this concert. On Martin

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00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:10.320
Luther King Weekend, Diane put it
very very you know, very nicely there

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that essentially, music's a great uniter. It's something that speaks to us on

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00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:23.519
a level beyond language. There's something
abstract and universal about it and it hits

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00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:27.920
you in a soft spot and that's
sort of what we're trying to do.

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00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:32.920
With this, we're trying to get
people from multiple faiths, kind of like

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the interfaith celebration that they have at
Grace every year. That's one of the

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00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:42.239
most beautiful nights of the year.
I don't know if our audience has ever

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00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:47.239
attended it, but Grace Church does
beautiful interfaith service every year and something like

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that. And by recognizing and seeing
and hearing and listening to the multiple faiths

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and to basically share the beauty of
what what there, there's a cultural beauty

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to what these faiths bring as well. And part of it is the music.

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And I think that the music is
something that's probably the easiest way to

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get to know the basic tenets of
the faith. Listen to the words,

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listen to the music, take it
into your heart. And you know,

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I was joking. I said,
we'd like everybody to sing along, provided

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00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:35.119
they sing the same song we're singing. Let's now go ahead. I was

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00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.440
going to say, but you know, if you've got to read a Harvey

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00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:42.960
singing, sometimes it's best to just
sit back and listen. Well, let's

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00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:46.679
sit back and listen to a prayer. A prayer in a song by Rita

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and it's a prayer for Ukraine.
I think it's very appropriate that we end

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with a prayer, and with everything
going on in the world, particularly in

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the Middle East, not lose focus
on the people in Ukraine also who are

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writing for freedom. Tell us a
little bit about this song and what it

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means to you read it. Oh, it means so much. You know.

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Peter brought it to me literally right
after the war started, and it

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was also I think it was also
the song that was performed on Saturday Night

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Live that night Ukrainian choir and yeah, Peter instantly texted me this is a

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song, this is a song,
and yeah, I like he mentioned he

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has friends there. I have dear
friends in the Ukrainian of my closest friends

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is Ukrainian and she's from ker Song
and you know, her hometown is basically

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destroyed. And we just want to
send this out as a love letter to

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our brothers and sisters everywhere, but
especially Ukraine. This song is very it's

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almost kind of like their country my
country to his. It's very much about

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how much they love their country and
how beautiful it is. And also knowing

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that Peter's friends, the string quartet
that played underneath it is heartbreaking to me

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they were hiding in abasement, playing
these playing this for this recording. So

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this goes out to all our brothers
and sisters in Ukraine, just knowing that

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we have not forgotten you. I
would like to thank our guests, me

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to Harvey, Peter Danish and Diane
SARATORI thank you so much for being Frank

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and of course for your intelligent conversation. I'll be seeing you for getting saucy

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and for the simple prayers for challenging
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Harvey and Peter Danish with a prayer
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