1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:07,240 Transgender ideology is obviously destroying families, and thank god, finally people are beginning 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,000 to talk to detransitioners. Though no one can actually transition. It cannot be 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,160 done. You cannot become the opposite sex. That's one of the greatest lies 4 00:00:14,199 --> 00:00:19,120 about this. And people figure that out and become suicidal. Many of them, 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,960 if not most, not all of them, become suicidal, but they 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,480 figure it out that hey, I'm not really the opposite sex. You know 7 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:32,119 who doesn't get enough attention parents, Parents who go through the hell of this 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,640 as the world endorses a child's delusion. We're going to talk with one mother 9 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:42,200 who's faced this and still faces it, and it's got to be painful. 10 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:47,640 Deb Brinton joins us. With the help of God Almighty will start in three 11 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:56,159 two one. The Todd Herman Show is one hundred percent disapproved by big pharma 12 00:00:56,359 --> 00:01:04,319 technocrats and tyrants everywhere. No from the high mountains of Free America. Here's 13 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:19,319 the Emerald City exile God her Man. Today is a day the Lord has 14 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:22,359 made, and these are the times to which God has decided we shall live. 15 00:01:23,599 --> 00:01:29,719 Deb Britain joins me. Dev's son Joshua Caleb, fell into the live 16 00:01:29,719 --> 00:01:34,319 of transgenderism, and Deb is one of the parents who never gets enough attention 17 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,079 or sympathy. These are stories we need to hear. That's why we're telling 18 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,359 these stories in the Todd Hermy Shore. Deb, thank you for making the 19 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,439 time. I appreciate you coming in, Thank you for having me. Let's 20 00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:49,959 start, I guess with before, because stories go that way. There's beginning, 21 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,959 middle, ends, and and we hope this is not the end state 22 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,959 for your son. But let's start with the beginning. Your son got conned 23 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,760 into ideaology at some point, and we can talk about how that happened. 24 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:07,479 But was he always someone who thought he was the opposite sex? No, 25 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:15,680 he was all boy from the time he came out of the womb. And 26 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,319 you know, how do you define boy? How do you define girl? 27 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,560 You know, I don't even know how you do it these days. But 28 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,759 the bottom line is that anything that we would think of as boy was my 29 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:31,319 baby boy and was very proud of his boyhood, so to speak. Just 30 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:37,120 a brief synopsis. He had, you know, grown up homeschool family. 31 00:02:37,759 --> 00:02:40,919 And you know, we didn't necessarily want him in the public schools and being 32 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,159 exposed, and we sure weren't worried about this, but just things in general. 33 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,400 And so we had homeschool to him and his younger sister two years younger 34 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,159 than he was, and they were great friends and he had a great friend 35 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:01,840 group and anyway, just had an absolutely picture perfect, ideal childhood. And 36 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:07,360 you know, when people will hear this, they'll doubt it. I'll tell 37 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,360 you, I'm sure you've probably had this. We know this because of the 38 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,840 travails we've been through as a family. We know, we know people doubt 39 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:20,599 no, clearly you did something. No, there's a society that's doing something. 40 00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:25,879 There is an entertainment complex is doing something. And I've had many many 41 00:03:25,879 --> 00:03:30,599 families tell us that no, but it was ideal, and kids can go 42 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,000 back and say, wow, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was. 43 00:03:34,919 --> 00:03:37,840 What do you think were the first hints if there were any, or 44 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:40,800 did you have the typical rapid onset gender dysfory thing if your son walked in 45 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,319 one day and said, hey, I'm a girl. Okay, there was 46 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:46,439 definitely the rap at onset, but there were definitely some history that led up 47 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:51,280 to this. So my husband, I mean my husband, my my son 48 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:55,479 is a genius. I Q so extremely intelligent from a very young age, 49 00:03:55,599 --> 00:04:00,599 and so he would He was always the inquisitive kid. He read books, 50 00:04:00,639 --> 00:04:03,439 he read, he was a researcher. He I mean, you know, 51 00:04:03,479 --> 00:04:08,199 a kid can build anything from scratch. I mean just extremely talented. We're 52 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,479 not sure where you come from. So we would joke about that. But 53 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,719 long story short, he was about and my background was in sexual health education. 54 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,920 I worked for a local crisis pregnancy center, and so I would go 55 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,920 into schools, church groups, community groups, and you know, teach the 56 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:27,519 truth about sex that during that season, nobody was teaching. Nobody was teaching 57 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:32,560 the truth and the consequences of taking sex outside of a committed lifetime relationship formerly 58 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,879 known as marriage. And so with that said, I you know, this 59 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,240 was that was my gig. And I was extremely open with my children about 60 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,639 absolutely everything. There was no question that they couldn't ask in our home. 61 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:47,639 And so anyway, we have some great conversations, and so much so that 62 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,759 he even took a teen Bible that talked about the ineffectiveness of condoms to his 63 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,439 A wanna group. Now it's a wanna group, LA. There wasn't quite 64 00:04:56,439 --> 00:05:00,240 as excited about him proliferating that gospel at a wanna but you know, I 65 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,519 tried to explain, I'm so sorry, y'all let him know. So we'd 66 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,439 had a conversation. I'm like, hey, babe, that's probably not wordy. 67 00:05:04,439 --> 00:05:08,560 You need to have that conversation. So he's yeah. Anyway, So 68 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,720 long story short, one day he came in. He was, you know, 69 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:14,399 ten years old. I'm wast eleven years old, and he was asking 70 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:16,720 some pretty deep questions as it related, you know, young men questions, 71 00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:20,319 but probably something you'd hear more of between twelve and fourteen. But because he 72 00:05:20,399 --> 00:05:25,000 was so advanced, and I thought, you know what, mom probably isn't 73 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,279 the best one to answer those questions. And you know, his daddy wasn't 74 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:32,000 quite as comfortable answering those questions as I was. So long story short, 75 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,639 I said, I've got a book for you, babe, and I handed 76 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:41,839 him the book Every young Man's Battle, thought, patted myself on the back. 77 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:44,279 I've just done a really good thing. I've just prepared my son. 78 00:05:44,879 --> 00:05:50,680 And so my son went and dug into that beautiful Christian text and got curious 79 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,720 because there were some things that they were talking about in there, like pornography, 80 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,600 Well what's that? And you know, computers are just beautifull things in 81 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,360 our lives, but they're also the enemy's playground. And long story short, 82 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:13,639 he googles pornography and that began a journey that hasn't stopped. Yeah, you 83 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,079 know, pornography is very much a stairstep drug. It is. You know, 84 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,240 some people, as we used to joke, could smoke a joint and 85 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,519 they're never going to go on the math. And then there's others at the 86 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:26,079 moment they smoke that first joint, you know, for whatever reason, that's 87 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,439 that's their gateway and pornography. Some men are able to they experienced pornography. 88 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:34,800 It's never impacted their marriages. That there's a vast majority out there that had 89 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,279 had the negative consequences of it in their relationships. And for my poor son, 90 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,560 that was his gateway drug. And so anyway, and that's taken us 91 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:53,360 on quite the journey. No, it is such an important journey. This 92 00:06:53,399 --> 00:06:57,399 is a product everybody uses and a few people think about. Honestly, I'm 93 00:06:57,439 --> 00:07:00,639 asking a question. Last time that you so up during the shower or washed 94 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:04,040 your hands, did you sit there and think, does this company care about 95 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:09,519 life, about me, about the least of these No, what about this 96 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,680 is it all natural? Is it actually made in America? Does anyone care 97 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,920 about that? Well, alansoaps dot com slash todd, we care about all 98 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,759 those things, starting with soap that is made in America, all natural, 99 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:27,720 absolutely gentle, incredibly unique fragrances or soaps with no fragrance. But it's the 100 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:31,480 reason behind it that matters. We employ people who the world would toss out 101 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,560 or would have had a boarded. We employ them because everybody deserves the dignity 102 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,079 of work. Starting with Alan thirteen, he's been through eighteen operations. He 103 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:44,759 is the chief soap officer. Two other young people work there now get ten 104 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,680 percent off all their products at alansoaps dot com slash todd. Again, that's 105 00:07:47,959 --> 00:07:59,959 alanssoaps dot com slash todd where all lives actually matter. Deb everything you describe 106 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:05,639 and I know you know this. There are very typical kids who fall into 107 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,519 this. Intelligence level is very very high. People don't think this is true, 108 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:13,800 but it is. Asperger's is high. Autism is high. High intelligence 109 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:20,959 is high. So are there is the personality quotient. The Myers Briggs analysis, 110 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:26,680 the architects are highly overrepresented in the group of people who fall for transgender 111 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,399 ideology. Guess what architects want. They want control. They want to control 112 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:37,879 their circumstances. And one way to control the circumstance is to take a narcissistic 113 00:08:37,879 --> 00:08:41,559 position of I'll choose my own sex and make you agree. And porn, 114 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,200 You're so right, is a gateway into this, not just because the enemy 115 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:52,039 wants to confuse people about sex and get people thinking just about their flesh, 116 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,799 but also because it gets into the minds of some young men and they say, 117 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,559 I want to be the controlling person. I want to be the desired 118 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:05,600 person. Right. So your son fell into this, and I will ask 119 00:09:05,639 --> 00:09:09,480 the tough question, and I have regrets as a parent too. Do you 120 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:16,360 regret him having access to porn in your home? Well, again, I 121 00:09:16,399 --> 00:09:20,279 have a genius level son. So when it first when it first came out, 122 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,480 you know, obviously you know, I'm I'm a mom, I've six, 123 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,559 I've coached many students through you know, porn addiction, and I thought, 124 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,600 I got this. I got this. And when you talk about regrets, 125 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:35,320 that's probably my biggest regret. I stepped up and stepped in at a 126 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,919 time where I should have stepped back and had some strong men step in so 127 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,000 that is that is a regret. You know, again, whether it was 128 00:09:43,039 --> 00:09:46,080 his father or his father, you know, some other you know, strong 129 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:50,120 Christian men, but I didn't. I thought, I've got this, I 130 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,679 know this, We're going to handle this. And and it just it began 131 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:56,840 to spiral from there. You know, we think I would think it was 132 00:09:56,919 --> 00:10:00,559 under control, and it wasn't under control. The I don't know, it's 133 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,279 probably the third time that we discovered that it was not under control. We 134 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,519 walked in, we walked into our I walked into his room and he'd hot 135 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:13,080 wired his Wii. I mean, you know, so the kid you know, 136 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,519 and not only that, the neighbor down the street, the neighbor kid 137 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:18,039 down the street come to find out, you know, they were accessing corner 138 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,559 on his computer. And so the bottom line is, where there's a will, 139 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,720 there's a way, I mean, there's there's not there's no I mean, 140 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,360 you can do everything as a parent to try to protect your children. 141 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:33,679 And unfortunately, if if that's what they're after, they're going to go and 142 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:39,639 get it. And you know, and it it got really heated. So 143 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,440 there was a point in this journey where it began to get heat up, 144 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:45,080 so to speak so on off, on, off, on off. He 145 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:50,000 had actually started going to a small Christian public school again that ended up working 146 00:10:50,039 --> 00:10:52,600 against us, and the boys began to bully him because he is just it's 147 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,360 just a different kind of guy. And you know when we call him gay. 148 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,240 He ended up in friendship with somebody who claimed no gender, and then 149 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:05,600 another girl who thought she was by and and so then all of a sudden 150 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,679 there began to have these relationships into his life, these friendships so we knew 151 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:15,000 nothing about at the time, that began to enforce this agenda again that he 152 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,039 would have never been exposed to if we kept him in his verse. So 153 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,759 again, regrets, could we really change that? I don't know. I 154 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:24,759 don't know, But there was some turning points. So this kind of progressed 155 00:11:24,759 --> 00:11:28,879 for a while. And but I want to go back to how anti and 156 00:11:28,919 --> 00:11:35,679 how how how much my son was just this this isn't him. There was 157 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,519 a show that had come out all about jazz or something about a young girl 158 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:45,759 whose parents had transitioned her or a young boy rather whose parents Yeah yeah, 159 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,200 Jesus. Mom complains about having to wake her up and shove a wedge between 160 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,519 her legs to keep the wound open. Yeah, yeah, it's just it's 161 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,960 really horrific. And so, but long story short, there was a documentary 162 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,559 series and my my younger daughter had stumbled across it. And again, we 163 00:12:01,639 --> 00:12:05,679 keep all discussions open in our home, and we feel like if all the 164 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,200 cards are on the table, then there's nothing that you know, that can 165 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,600 the enemy doesn't have a playground with it. And so this particular day, 166 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:15,399 my daughter was watching this show, but I was watching it with her, 167 00:12:15,919 --> 00:12:18,720 and my son had walked in the room. He's like, what are you 168 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,759 doing? And I was like, well, your sister had had some questions 169 00:12:20,759 --> 00:12:24,039 about this, I said, so we're walking. I said, we're watching 170 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,320 it together and we're talking about it so I can help her to understand what 171 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:31,360 this is all about. And he lost it. He lost it. He 172 00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:33,600 was so self frauduous. He had had a conversion experience with the Lord and 173 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,440 a radical conversion experience at only eight years old. But again his high intelligence, 174 00:12:39,919 --> 00:12:43,320 and he you know, was very legalistic. And it was interesting what 175 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:48,039 you said earlier because in some ways that control come on now has now played 176 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:54,360 into this role. Are you with me? Yes? So fast forward a 177 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,679 couple more years, he was he's twenty now, so he was just about 178 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,159 just about to turn fit there, just turn fifteen, and we were in 179 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,720 the process we were living in Louisianna at the time, and we were in 180 00:13:03,759 --> 00:13:07,720 the process of moving our family to California. I'd had some business opportunity out 181 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:13,480 here. And I come I get a phone call from his dad. It's 182 00:13:13,759 --> 00:13:16,399 it's an evening and I'm out with my girlfriends and I get a phone call 183 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,919 and he says, you need to come home now. Your son needs to 184 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,960 we need to talk. It's about your son. And so I get home, 185 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:28,720 I sit down on the couch, and this was the day that he 186 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:35,879 decided to say, yeah, I think i'm by Well I can forgive me, 187 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,919 I can knock that shit. We can get over this. Well, 188 00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:43,600 no kidding. When you said you're looking forward and you have trained your brain 189 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:48,639 since ten years old to be attracted to both male female whatever else you've been 190 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,759 putting up on that porn screen, duh, duh. But whatever whatever, 191 00:13:52,879 --> 00:13:56,320 we're not having this conversation anyway. So that was that was kind of a 192 00:13:56,399 --> 00:14:01,720 pivotal shift in all this. So he was from this very self righteous position 193 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:05,200 and supposedly trying to work on getting this poor thing out of his life too. 194 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:09,200 Oh well, now I'm gonna start to embrace some of the drama of 195 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:13,799 it all. And so this is so again, polease forgive me dab. 196 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,600 But I've heard I've heard the tale, and it's sometimes it starts with there's 197 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:24,440 a script, and usually girls followed the script. The script goes, Hey, 198 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,960 if I wanted to have breast reduction surgery because they were hurting me, 199 00:14:28,919 --> 00:14:33,120 they were impeding me from walking, they were breaking my back, would you 200 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:37,720 you know? Would you would you allow that? We? Sure? Okay, 201 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:41,960 door open now now okay? So, but what if they're breaking my 202 00:14:41,039 --> 00:14:45,360 mind? And with boys, it so often starts with what you're talking about. 203 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,120 I was talking this weekend to someone about misuse of the body. Where 204 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,960 was I I can't remember where I was, but I was talking about, 205 00:14:58,159 --> 00:15:01,039 Oh gosh, fancy that I was in a gym. Why would it be 206 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,360 anything else. I was in a gym. I was talking about the early 207 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,279 powerlifting this, that's it, that's it. I got to work out with 208 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,200 one of the guys from the youth group. I'm going to be co leading 209 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:16,600 with him at summer camp. Unbelievably incredible kid. I mean, he's a 210 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:18,559 grown man. He's eighteen, he's legally an adult. I still think of 211 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:22,600 him as a kid. But we were talking about the early days of weightlifting 212 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:26,039 and everything I did to myself, and he's a super strong kid. It 213 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:28,399 was before I workout. We were just bonding and I said to him, 214 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,159 this is probably where I started to develop these shoulder problems. You know, 215 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,360 I had these bones burds with their genetic but I didn't take care of myself 216 00:15:35,399 --> 00:15:37,080 in this way. I was not stewarding well that which God gave me. 217 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,879 What it came down to. Now that I'm older and I've learned about some 218 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:46,240 of the ways God gives us ways to start over physically, that's kind of 219 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,559 what renew Healthcare does. It's about elevating your quality of life by starting over 220 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,120 in a way. And let me explain this there is I don't think any 221 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:56,480 fountain of youth, and I don't particularly care for a fountain of youth. 222 00:15:56,519 --> 00:16:00,720 I have no interest in artificially and or linkedining my life. God's going to 223 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:03,279 decide what I go anyway, but I do have an interest in living a 224 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,919 quality existence. While I'm here, stem cells ethically gather that is only ethically 225 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:14,639 gathered from placentas and umbilical cords period, which is in the United States thrown 226 00:16:14,679 --> 00:16:22,279 out as medical waste. Those cells can replace your ancient decrepit no longer useful 227 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,240 stem cells. What the stem cells do? They help your body heal. 228 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:33,679 They regroach issue, They fight radical inflammation that you get something from a car 229 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,480 crash, or from surgeries, or from just huge soft tissue damage. They 230 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:41,399 can do this anywhere in the body. Because these stem cells do not have 231 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:47,240 an assigned role, they are waiting for a role to be assigned to them. 232 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,840 They were designed to build infant. They weren't needed to build the infant 233 00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:59,480 the infant is built. The cells are potential power. So you may have 234 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:03,080 a lower lumbar circumstance and this could be that you have something called neuropathy. 235 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:06,920 Well it doesn't need to be that way. Stem cells can heal that in 236 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,039 ways that invasive surgeries cannot. Invasive surgeries make things worse. You may have 237 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,400 a Laurer lumbar issue that you don't know is a Laurer lumbar issue. You 238 00:17:15,519 --> 00:17:18,079 may think it's a leg issue. You might have arthritis, and I do 239 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,440 have a little bit of arthritis. Stem cells can help with that even neurological 240 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,799 challenges. When I was down in Mexico, I got to spend time with 241 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,480 a gentleman named Steve and his daughter, Mandy. Mandy is a cheerful warrior, 242 00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:34,279 and these people became friends, really really friends, And they were down 243 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,400 there for a neurological issue that Mandy had. Someday I may have them on 244 00:17:37,519 --> 00:17:41,799 to talk about the challenges they've been through as a family. My gosh, 245 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,559 the way the Lord has prepared them for this. They went down in hopes 246 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,640 that the stem cells can help Mandy with her neurological issues. Why would they 247 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,319 do that, because it does help many many people. A woman who was 248 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,920 hemispherically paralyzed when in in a wheelchair came out walking. It's simply a no 249 00:17:57,079 --> 00:18:00,240 brainer to have them see if they can help. There's no charge at this. 250 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:06,160 You go to renew dot Healthcare. That's r E n U E dot 251 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,880 Healthcare. Renew dot Healthcare. They can look at your medical records and see 252 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,880 if they can help you. If they can, they'll tell you and how 253 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,799 much it will cost and how much time it will take. If they can't, 254 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:22,599 they'll tell you they can't. Renew dot Healthcare. So dev this progressed 255 00:18:22,759 --> 00:18:29,200 from, or I should say probably regressed from this fleshly desire to have other 256 00:18:29,319 --> 00:18:33,559 men, other boys, And yes, porn does that. It's the crazy 257 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,400 thing about porn is it's so like a drug that's so called straight porn is 258 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,519 not enough, and then it's now it's group sex, and now it's well, 259 00:18:42,759 --> 00:18:47,920 maybe i'll just look at so called gay porn and men having sex together, 260 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:49,680 and okay, let's just look at that to see what's that like. 261 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:56,680 And by the way, porn sites merchandise this, and they also merchandise violence. 262 00:18:57,319 --> 00:19:03,799 About one in eight of the of some of the porn services, one 263 00:19:03,839 --> 00:19:06,240 in eight of the things they push at you is going to be violence. 264 00:19:06,839 --> 00:19:12,599 And they absolutely admit, they admit that they push same sex activity at everybody 265 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,960 because they want to expand the sort of content you're going to take in. 266 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,920 So, how did your son then go from that? What was the how 267 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,039 did he inform you that, hey, by the way, I'm now not 268 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:33,000 just so called by but I'm a girl. So again we'll fast forward to 269 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,920 that. So we so here we are in the midst of all this crazy 270 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,119 town. I'm now I'm reaching out, I'm getting other counselors involved. Now 271 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,960 I know I've got a son. You know, this pornography is more addictive 272 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,880 than heroin. It is taking him into darker places. I couldn't even imagine 273 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,400 the darker places that we were going to go. But we make the move 274 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:56,160 to California. I get him in full time counseling, and tried one counselor. 275 00:19:56,319 --> 00:20:00,400 Literally that counselor tapped out at some point they got heavy, and so 276 00:20:00,599 --> 00:20:07,640 then brought another counselor in and and that was going as well as I could 277 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:14,720 hope at that point. And this was right before COVID hit and and all 278 00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:18,759 the crazy that went along with that mentally for our children, and anyway, 279 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:26,839 or at the beginning there. So we are up at We're up at Lake 280 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,759 Tahoe. I'm doing a quick vacation with my kids, just just him and 281 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:33,799 his sister, and and so we're, you know, gonna be up there 282 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:37,400 and go ski you the next day. And he has got his phone, 283 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:44,680 and again prepared to like, well, why didn't you just take his phone 284 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,240 for good? Well, again we have to understand, So I keep his 285 00:20:49,319 --> 00:20:52,960 phone for good. He goes and he buys his own phone. He goes 286 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,480 and steals one of you. I mean, they're going to have access, 287 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:56,799 so the best thing I could do is at least know what was going to 288 00:20:56,839 --> 00:21:00,880 be on the phone and to put the permal control on and things like that. 289 00:21:00,319 --> 00:21:03,200 Well, anyway, this particular day, so we're up a tahoe and 290 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,319 I see him and he's over in the corner and he's on his phone. 291 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,039 But I can just tell, we can always tell when your children are doing 292 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:10,200 something they don't need to be doing. And I said, who are you 293 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,920 talking to? Men? And oh, nobody, nobody, And I'm like 294 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:21,200 whatever, And so I walk over and actually remembering now he was his phone? 295 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,000 Who was his laptop? He was on he was having to do some 296 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:26,240 stuff for school, supposedubly. So I walk over and I grab it, 297 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:33,079 and my son, who at this time is much larger than I am, 298 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:38,200 literally wrestles me to the ground physically. Who tried to pull it away from 299 00:21:38,279 --> 00:21:45,000 me, I mean like lost his mind, absolutely lost his mind. And 300 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,640 I'm you know, I'm not a pushover, and so I pushed back, 301 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:51,920 and so if you can imagine, there is this all out fight between the 302 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,119 two of us, and because he ain't getting that back, but again he's 303 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,240 much larger than I am, so he does end up wrestling it out. 304 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:06,039 I call his vacation off, I call his counsel and then he refuses to 305 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,519 tell me what's going on. I mean just arrogantly refuses, and I was 306 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:12,000 like, oh, hey no, and tells me I'm not going to tell 307 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:15,720 you until we go see my counselor. That's not a problem. So we 308 00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:18,839 are loading up the truck, we are heading down hill. I'm calling his 309 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,799 counselor. I'm like, we need an emergency meeting or this child may not 310 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,839 make it through the night. I'm hot. And so we get down to 311 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,839 his counselor's office, they meet one on one without me. They bring me 312 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,319 in and his dad I had told to stay, and we sit down and 313 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,799 the child says, yeah, I think I'm creans, I think I'm a 314 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:47,480 girl whatever, And I literally laughed out loud. I'm like, so this 315 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,000 is the next twisty turn we're taking on this ridiculous journey. I mean, 316 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,720 it was just it was laughable. It was so laughable that this all boy 317 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:02,319 from the time first breath came out of him, What are you kidding me? 318 00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:06,519 So that was the big unveil, and of course this counselor, you 319 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:08,440 know said that probably wasn't the best reaction, but I really couldn't hear less 320 00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:14,759 because that was a true reaction. Right, It's well no, and it's 321 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,680 look. I've talked to so many parents who their first response is their daughter 322 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:23,599 says, I'm a boy, and the hell you are right, because it's 323 00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:30,039 absurd. It's a psychosis. And one of the things we've learned in working 324 00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:34,359 with parents on this is a if your parent listening to this and you say, 325 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,640 well, thank god, I'll never face this, can I tell you 326 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,920 something with all love, you're fool. Yes, you don't know that. 327 00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:47,160 And well, my kids are private schooled, great, do they have friends? 328 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,720 Do they go to skating rinks? Okay, we need to be prepared 329 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:59,160 to hear something like this, And this is my view. You may well 330 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,599 feel that genuinely. In fact, I believe your feelings are genuine and you 331 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,720 couldnot change your sex right, and we stand in this firm truth. I 332 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:11,519 don't blame you a bit for laughing in your son's face. I don't because 333 00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:15,279 it's it's absurd. One other thing, if I could be so bold and 334 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,599 just, it's only because our time is limit, I could talk to you 335 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:30,440 for day. Is StEB fathers in deuterotomy six, we are the ones who 336 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:34,119 are to put on our kids' minds and hearts the word of God on a 337 00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:37,519 daily basis when they go to sleep and when they wake. Doesn't mean that 338 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,960 moms aren't devolved. Of course, God values moms and dads equally. If 339 00:24:44,079 --> 00:24:48,200 you are turning to the church to raise your kid, you're going to fail. 340 00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:52,319 And if you are speaking the word of God and not acting the word 341 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,720 of God, you're going to fail. Because the enemy wants any and all 342 00:24:55,799 --> 00:25:00,400 wedges. We need to be the spiritual leaders of our home or we will 343 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,720 fail. And Deb, I know there's a lot of steps between hey, 344 00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:11,319 I think I am bisexual to hey I think I'm a girl in that period 345 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,839 of time from that fifteen year old coming and chatting with you, I think 346 00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:17,960 I'm bisexual in your response of well, look your programmed your brain with porn, 347 00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:22,359 what are some of the steps between that and the Lake Tahoe emission. 348 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,480 Because one of the things I want to make sure you get to do is 349 00:25:23,519 --> 00:25:27,279 say the things parents need to say because you're never consulted. So give us 350 00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:30,960 some of the things you need. We need to know between that period of 351 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,559 time and then we'll get up to data to where things are now, you 352 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,119 know. And I wish I could tell you that there was this one pinpoint 353 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,240 moment or one thing or one but there's just not. There's just there's just 354 00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:45,319 a kid trying to survive in this culture and trying to sort out in this 355 00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:52,279 pre adolescent brain or adolescent brain what's going on, and a sensitive child that 356 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,920 now we're entered into COVID, and we've entered into this super storm of agenda 357 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:03,200 that came in at the same time as COVID promoting all of this drama. 358 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,000 Unfortunately, a father that felt very ill equipped, and so instead again of 359 00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:14,319 stepping up, stepped back, and it just it was just the perfect storm 360 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:18,119 in many many ways. And so again I wish I could say, oh, 361 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,400 here's the recipe, But there are no books when it comes to sin. 362 00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:25,160 I mean, it's just like the same thing when you have a child 363 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,039 that falls into a drug addiction and you're like, well, what went wrong? 364 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,599 You know, are there regrets are the things you wish you had done 365 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:33,119 differently? Of course there are, But is there a textbook to make sure 366 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,440 your kid never get ends up on drugs? No, there's just not They're 367 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:41,200 just not And when you are living in a world that literally you can't turn 368 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:47,799 on a TV without being bombarded, or internet or anywhere we go. My 369 00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:51,400 god, the whole month of June has been dedicated to this insanity. The 370 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:57,799 whole month. It's just crazy. And so how do you do that? 371 00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,359 I don't know. Here's what I do know. What I do know is 372 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,480 that for whatever reason God has trusted me and has trusted our family, you 373 00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:10,960 can go through this. And you know what that means. I'm I'm I'm 374 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,200 equipped. I'm equipped. Now, there's many days I do not feel equipped. 375 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,680 I'm telling you that, I'm telling you there are many days that I 376 00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:19,559 have been I mean, and unfortunately my marriage did not make it through this. 377 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,559 You know, here we are. My friend's twenty years old. Now 378 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,480 he has been he's he's in the hospital right now, on his third fifty 379 00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:30,559 one fifty he has he tried to kill himself. Drove his car completely off 380 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:34,200 the road at eighteen miles an hour. He was the only thing left in 381 00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:38,519 the car that was not completely I mean, airbag didn't even go off. 382 00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:42,200 The boy opens the door and steps out the rest of the car. Every 383 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,319 officer environment on the scene can tell you there's no way, no way anybody 384 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,240 could walk away from that. But you know what that was for me? 385 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,039 That was a gift because I knew that boy wasn't going nowhere till God Almighty 386 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,279 himself took him out. And you know what, His name is, Joshua 387 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,920 Caleb, and God himself named that child. And so here's what I can 388 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,799 tell you as it relates to that. What I can tell you is it 389 00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:04,240 relates to that, is that boy is gonna fight some giants. He's fighting 390 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,359 them today and he's fighting them right now, and it's not my fight. 391 00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:11,200 So I tell you what, if there's one thing that I could tell parents 392 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:15,799 right now is it's not your fight because you're talking to type a driver. 393 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,880 I'm gonna fix this can happen. I'm gonna this is my fight. My 394 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:27,680 fight in this is to hold my stance, to not get into agreement in 395 00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:32,480 fairytale land, to be bold with it. I mean, he went through 396 00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:37,599 three months of intensive, twenty hour a week trans counseling that he literally cut 397 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,440 off the family sessions because his trans counselor loved his mama, and not because 398 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,880 his mama was pro trance, but because his mama spoke the truth in love, 399 00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:49,240 spoke the truth in love, and that she couldn't even argue she loved 400 00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:52,359 me. I mean, I call her sister, because of course you don't 401 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,559 pronoun it's not she, But I called her sister. We were good with 402 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:59,359 that, but he literally cut off family sessions because he's like, you're manipulating 403 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,720 my counselor. No, your counselor just has a semblance of truth and can 404 00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:07,799 hear truth. But anyway, praise God that you found a counselor, a 405 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,319 so called transcuncor. I won't use that word without so called because I refuse 406 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:17,599 to speak the enemy's language. So praise God that you found someone who would 407 00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:19,160 actually say, hey, you know what, your mom loves you, and 408 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:26,720 your mom wants what's best for you. I want to get to some of 409 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:30,119 the other frustrations at this that that that initial counselor when your son sat and 410 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:36,319 said I'm a girl. Did the counselor also say laugh? Or did the 411 00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:40,640 counselor right? This is the frustration dead tell me if I'm wrong. Yeah, 412 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,079 if your kid falls into drug addiction, most medical people will go, 413 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,960 gosh, we gotta we gotta help. If your kid's cutting, right, 414 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:52,839 Hey, you know what does that? He does that? Yeah, true 415 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:59,160 story, cutting actually works biologically, Oh it does. Guess what. Yeah, 416 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,319 it's ineffective because it can make you very, very sick. Yes, 417 00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:04,359 and it gets worse. Most people will say, hey, we need you 418 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,599 get to stop cutting. If you're anorexic, you can die from that. 419 00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:11,319 You can end up with a heart attack. If you're bullymic, you know 420 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,319 that's going to take your teeth out and eventually rot your gut so that you're 421 00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:19,720 going to end up dying. Any one of these things. Counselors, therapists, 422 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:25,079 medical personnel will go, hey, we need to arrest that. But 423 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,559 a boy at the age of twenty saying or little or young or whatever saying 424 00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:33,799 I'm a girl, you got ninety nine in California. You get ninety nine 425 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,839 percent of people and they're breaking the law. They don't affirm. So you 426 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,720 get ninety nine percent of people saying brave and what's the next word, brave 427 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:52,880 and stunning. So did you lose friends because you wouldn't support your son's delusions? 428 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,759 Well, you know, I'm pretty blessed. I've got i'm and I 429 00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:03,160 know how to communicate. Okay, So again, I'm not angry at my 430 00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:08,240 son because he's going through this. Welcome to the club right now. You 431 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:11,839 know what I'm saying. I'm not. I don't hate people that are going 432 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,599 through this. I don't hate people that have embraced this drama. I mean, 433 00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:18,920 I don't hate sinners. Hate yo, yo right here. You know 434 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,119 what I'm saying. So I don't I don't have any hate in me towards 435 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,440 this. I do have a hate towards my son. What it's done to 436 00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:30,720 my son and what I'm having to watch him go through, and what it's 437 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,440 done to our family, what it's done to my daughter, what it's done, 438 00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:37,519 I do have a hate for that. And that's part of what God 439 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,039 has had to work in me when I talked earlier about I can't fix this. 440 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,880 I do not have the power and truly understanding this has literally been for 441 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:51,640 me personally, and surrender, surrender, surrender, surrender, And the most 442 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,359 recent surrender was finally coming to the point after I'd come home for I travel 443 00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:59,599 a lot for work. I'd come home and found out that he had stolen 444 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,680 alcohol to go with his twenty five pill bottles that are in his room, 445 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,799 had gotten drunk and had cut excess all over his face and hands. And 446 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,400 then the next morning wanted to know how he could go to work, and 447 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:15,680 I said, I don't know. I mean, I guess you just wear 448 00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,759 gloves off you go. You're living in his house, you have to have 449 00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:22,319 a job. I mean, at one point I was going to kick him 450 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,160 out. It was nothing but God Almighty that softened my heart to even let 451 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,640 him stay. And I'm going to tell you, there's not a textbook on 452 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,079 this. It hasn't been written. And I remind him of that on a 453 00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:34,079 regular basis. I have no textbook. So all I have is Holy Spirit 454 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,799 and that's it. So if you have a problem with any part of how 455 00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:39,480 you're being peering in, you can take it up with them. But of 456 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:45,359 course he walked away from his faith when he couldn't reconcile it with his with 457 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:49,440 his same sex attraction back in the day, and so that was a whole 458 00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:52,319 nother thing. And so now it's there's this huge aversion to his faith, 459 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,519 even though this is a child that again had one of the most profound conversion 460 00:32:55,519 --> 00:33:00,160 experiences I've ever witnessed. Well, but those are the people that Satan targets 461 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:06,839 and the profound conversion experiences, those mountaintop experiences, those are fantastic, and 462 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,039 we as men understand something like I am blessed to work with young men in 463 00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:15,480 several different settings. You would be surprised how many young men had a mountaintop 464 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:20,720 experience, came home from camp, Bible camp, Christian camp and shared this 465 00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:23,559 with the family, this mountaintop experience. To have a family say gosh, 466 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,720 we're proud of you. Fantastic, great work. How's football going good? 467 00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:35,000 And to not gather around in communities of density. I'll give you a great 468 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:38,759 example of this communities of density. I was chatting with a young guy I'm 469 00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:43,000 blessed to work with great Christian young man, and I simply asked this question 470 00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:46,759 about one of his peers was working on a project with a female peer. 471 00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:49,480 I said, hey, I heard that kind of fell a part. You 472 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,599 want to know what this young man said to me? He goes, yeah, 473 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:58,200 you should ask them that because I don't gossip. Wow, absolute sign 474 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,359 of mature. I said, oh, wow, you're right. I wasn't 475 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,359 seeking I didn't think I was seeking gossip, but man, I respect that 476 00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:06,480 stance. You're right. I'll just go to them and ask about that. 477 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:09,400 So again I will say to the men in the eyes grandpas, et cetera, 478 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,039 Hey, my kids are grown. Are the kids in your neighborhood grown? 479 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,800 How about the kids in your church? How about getting into some of 480 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,360 these youth groups and being the male influence and a lot of these kids do 481 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:24,519 not have. Because here's another thing that I think parents need to understand something. 482 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,400 If it's just you and the public schools, when the parents the kids 483 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,800 turn against you, because this is biology, they will at some point want 484 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,840 to argue with you. They will want their own identity. If it's you 485 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,480 versus the schools or the culture, you're outnumbered. But if you live in 486 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:45,320 a community of density where your kids have twenty five adults who walk with the 487 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,679 Lord Jesus, and they've grown up around these twenty five adults who walk with 488 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,880 the Lord Jesus, they could go pick one of them and get that feedback 489 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,559 and that person can speak into their life and it's not their parents. Right, 490 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,559 your son is in this position. Now you've wisely said this is this 491 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:08,719 is not my battle, it's his battle. I know you now, having 492 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,079 got to know you, but I know you're in a prayer battle. I 493 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:17,159 know that you probably accept prayers from this podcast family for your son. Yes, 494 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,119 Okay, so we will pray for your son. We'll pray that the 495 00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:27,320 Lord delivers him. We'll pray that the delusion goes away. That Joshua Caleb 496 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,400 is made in the image of God, made in the image of God Almighty, 497 00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:36,840 and he's in a battle. And Father God, we would just ask 498 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:44,280 that you will step in, yes, and remind Caleb, Joshua Caleb, 499 00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:49,320 of who made him, Yes, of who loves him. Yes, And 500 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,400 that he cannot change the design. He can mutilate it, he can vandalize 501 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,679 it, he can attempt to hide it, but he was made to walk 502 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,920 with you, Yes, and that Lord God, and you would work through 503 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,400 deb and others to have your face shine and to have this young man finally 504 00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:14,320 finally go to his knees and seek the gift of forgiveness which is freely given 505 00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:17,840 in the blood of Jesus Christ. You would ask this, that you would 506 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,960 do this soon. Lord, although your time is perfect beyond ours. Soon 507 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:32,480 means nothing to you. Rescibus in Jesus name, Jesus. I don't know 508 00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:38,519 that there's any better way to show commitment to independence day all year than to 509 00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:45,559 join with a coffee company. 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They'll never run away like that rifle company did from the 519 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,880 second one. Go to Bonefrog Coffee dot com slash Todd use promo code Todd 520 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:38,280 to get ten percent off your first order fifteen percent off subscription coffee. Your 521 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:45,719 son has not always been peaceful with you. We talked about the laptop, 522 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:53,519 but it gets worse. I understand it, does it? Does you know? 523 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,719 Again? A journey like this, it involves the whole family. Unfortunately, 524 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,320 and again, as I mentioned, unfortunately, my husband and I are 525 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,079 married to twenty two years. Did not make it through this. I don't 526 00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:07,440 know that it would have made it without it, but did not make it. 527 00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:15,519 And but his because of the drugs that he's on, his behaviors began 528 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:22,320 to escalate and his moodswings began to escalate. Was this pharma or recreation? 529 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:25,960 Yes? Well yes, so he lived. So the conditions of him staying 530 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,679 in my home after graduation were number one, he had to have a full 531 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:35,079 time job, and number two, he could do nothing to pursue this physically. 532 00:38:35,199 --> 00:38:37,079 In other words, I said, look at twenty five years old, 533 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:38,239 if this is still where your head is at, I said, then I'm 534 00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:43,320 okay and it's off. You go do you. But as long as you're 535 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,960 in my home, you will have a full time job and you will do 536 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:52,559 nothing to modify yourself, whether it is physically or chemically. So that year 537 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:57,000 went crazy. He went crazy town on me, like literally there were there 538 00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:00,159 was a physical incident here in my office, sitting in my office. Came 539 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,440 in one day and literally physically attacked me because he was so upset he'd gotten 540 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:09,320 triggered. He on a plane, he cornered me on a plane and just 541 00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:15,639 was just absolutely I mean literally just almost on top of me, verbally, 542 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,320 abusive, just all kinds of craziness. That's not my child. It's not 543 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,360 my child. Which is really interesting because the conversation I had with him the 544 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,199 other day before he checked himself back in on the next fifty one to fifty 545 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,280 was I said, baby, I said, do you know, mom, 546 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,039 the thing that breaks your mama's heart the most is not has nothing to do 547 00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:35,760 with your gender. It has to do with the loss of the character of 548 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,639 the son who I know and raised. You are a good human being. 549 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,880 You're one of the most compassionate people I've ever met. You're one of the 550 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,960 most giving and loving. But where's he gone? Where's that person? You've 551 00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:55,519 become hateful and bitter and just a shadow of who you once were and who 552 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,320 everyone knew you to be, so which I really, I honestly think kind 553 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,920 of shook him to the point that it did end up leading to him on 554 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,639 the day he was supposed to either be exiting my house or making some new 555 00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:12,960 commitments to go ahead and go about a fifty one fifty. But by the 556 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,239 way, if people don't know, this is a mental health code in the 557 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,440 state of California. It's not a Van Halen album, and hand album was 558 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,679 named after that because they had a studio called fifty one fifty. But it's 559 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,559 a it's a mental health being detained for mental health reasons, either voluntarily or 560 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:36,400 sometimes involuntarily, the pharma industry or liars. Oh my gosh, my biggest 561 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,480 regret. No, that's not true. I have a number of regrets. 562 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:45,440 One of them was giving into fear. Our daughter was harmed in a way 563 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,360 that changed her, and this is her story to tell. So there's parts 564 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,159 of it. I tell parts of it. I don't you know, when 565 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:57,360 you are handing out about thirty three to thirty five thousand dollars a month cash 566 00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:02,400 for thirteen months, you will sometimes given the financial fear, even as you 567 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,280 thank God forever I having had those resources, even if they never come back, 568 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,440 and learning that hey, you know, she may not get at her 569 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,119 without these drugs. I gave in my wife, whom you know, sat 570 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,400 and it sits twice a week in a tiny little bathroom and shaves off little 571 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:28,280 little specks from tablets using a scale made to measure tiny tiny bits of gold 572 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:35,079 for jewelers and tiny bits of diamond, and Pharma lied about antidepressants. There 573 00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:39,320 is no serotonin imbalance. And now recently we've come out with the mechanisms of 574 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:45,360 the lies we talked about we talked about yesterday in the program, and that 575 00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:49,960 is taking people who signed up for trials for antidepressants and then couldn't stand the 576 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,440 drugs. They got sick in the drugs, so they dropped. So Pharma 577 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,400 said, hey, they're cured. So I would ask you this, how 578 00:41:55,519 --> 00:42:00,360 much pharma is your son on how many pills? God knows. I know 579 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,559 there's about twenty five pill bottles that are lined up in his room right now. 580 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,320 And oh, it's it's insane. Some of them are transition drugs. 581 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,880 Some of them are managing the drama from the transition drugs, and and it's 582 00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:17,880 it's just it's just a hot cocktail. So he is doing the chemical mutilation. 583 00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:23,400 He is doing some things that I don't even know, to be honest. 584 00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:28,199 Oh, by the way, if people don't know, Planned Parenthood has 585 00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:31,320 stepped up and added to their repuqui and they are no longer just in the 586 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:35,960 abortion business. They are now in the trans business. Oh yeah, so 587 00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:40,920 that is literally where he ended up getting his first cocktails. And this is 588 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,400 a child that used to stand and pray in front of abortion clinics that now 589 00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:51,440 goes there. And this is this is estrogen in the male body. It's 590 00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:54,440 insane. And you're very correct. There's no owner's manual in all this. 591 00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:00,159 Do you God forbid? I mean, I don't know, God forbid your 592 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,400 day coming where you asked him to exit the house? Well, yes, 593 00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:07,800 and that was that was you know, that was that day or you know 594 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,599 any but even in this, y'all, this is where I can't I can't 595 00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:14,079 stress enough. You have to be led by Holy Spirit. You just do 596 00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:17,239 you just do I Again, I had said this. I had given him 597 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,840 ninety days after the alcohol incident and the things that had happened while I was 598 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,480 out of town and my and my daughter was here, and so I said, 599 00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:29,760 you go ninety days, off you go, you know, And not 600 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,679 that I don't love you and I don't care about you. If you need 601 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,960 me, I'll give you a buzz. But but no, you can't live 602 00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:37,920 under my roof and continue down the direction you're you're going, you know. 603 00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:43,639 But again the Holy Spirit's off in my heart and had me offer him the 604 00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:46,519 opportunity to stay for pennies. Really is what it was. And it was 605 00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:50,760 also kind of a forced savings plan for him to help him to exit successfully 606 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,400 here at some point. And so, but so, he had both of 607 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,239 those options on the table, and then come to find out on the day 608 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,079 of move out that he thought he was going into some transitional facility. Again, 609 00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:05,920 these kids get extremely delusional about everything in their lives. Ye, like, 610 00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:07,119 I don't even know how. I mean, I know in the state 611 00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:09,880 of California, they can't fire him for this, And for all the time 612 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,480 he's had out, his job has been probably the only stable thing in his 613 00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:15,679 life. And I thank God for these people, even though I've never met 614 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:21,000 them. But but they literally become delusional about everything, to the point that 615 00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:22,360 on the day he was supposed to move out, I find I find out 616 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:28,239 this child only has two hundred dollars to his name. I'm like, where's 617 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,960 your money? What have you done? What's happening? And of course he's, 618 00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:34,480 you know, for the most part, completely in communicato with me because 619 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,960 I'm the enemy. But yeah, and so, so I don't know what's 620 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,679 going to happen as of right now. I talk to the social worker and 621 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,719 guys, here's the other thing you can lovingly not give into this agenda. 622 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,239 The social worker you know, she said, oh, oh, you're here 623 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,639 to talk about and use the female name, and I said, no, 624 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,320 we don't do fairy tales in my house. I'm calling about my son Johns 625 00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:58,400 Caleb. And you know, you can push back lovingly on these people and 626 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,480 they respect that if you do it love. And so we need to learn 627 00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:06,119 how to really make sure that we are in love when we are communicating with 628 00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:08,199 people that really don't have any other choice. By law, they have to 629 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,199 support this hot mess. But anyway, they said, so he called me 630 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,920 and to try to get out and he didn't have a ride, and so 631 00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:17,760 I was talking to his counselor and she's like, well, we're trying to 632 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,519 put him into a thirty day program. I said, well, here's the 633 00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:22,719 deal. I said, you need to understand. I said, he went 634 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,719 through three months of twenty hours a week counseling. I said, he came 635 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,679 out worse on the other end. So I just hope and praying that whenever 636 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,880 you're sending him to will be better than that. You know, and I 637 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,480 mean and again and love have loving conversation with her. So so we don't 638 00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:39,159 know this is y'all, we're just having a party over here. We're on 639 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,920 a journey, and the journey is as much about me as it is about 640 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,679 my son. It's as much about this family and what we've been through is 641 00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:49,599 it is about my child. And we have to remember that when God allows 642 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,519 us to go through these journeys, that they are always for our good and 643 00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,960 they are always for His glory. And that's the thing you have to hold 644 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,960 on to, is this is this is for my good. So Daddy showed 645 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,920 me today how this is for my good, and now show me how it's 646 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,199 for your glory. So the timing piece that you mentioned earlier, that was 647 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:12,639 the last of my surrender pieces because I know this is not the end. 648 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,360 I know the truth. My baby knows the truth, and I know what 649 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:21,320 God's good plan is for him. And so but I wanted it today. 650 00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:24,679 We all we all wanted today. I wanted. My sole concern is who 651 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:30,679 wrapped this up? Deb Is is this that that I don't want to I 652 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,280 don't want to get a text for my wife or come home and havever say, 653 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:42,280 Joshua Caleb took his mom's life and his sister's life. Yeah, that's 654 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,719 not happening. I'm not worried about that. Not worried about that. That's 655 00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:49,920 then God forbid. Yes I would, I would be. We were driven 656 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,320 by the Holy Spirit. We are I'm driven by the Holy Spirit. To 657 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,679 say I would be derelict in my duty as a man. Come on, 658 00:46:57,159 --> 00:47:00,440 I didn't. If I didn't just say that, we're gonna you need to 659 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,519 pray for you. Thank you for telling your story. If Joshua Caleb's ever 660 00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:14,079 in a state of mind where he would accept male some additional male leadership in 661 00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:15,519 his mind, I would love to be able to help you find a church 662 00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:17,800 down there to do that, but it's just not that point, and I 663 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,920 know you can find one on your own. So Deb, I'll pray for 664 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,880 you. God bless you. God bless you for being a happy warrior. 665 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,519 I don't know how you do it other than the spirit. It's my habit 666 00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:30,559 to ask people who come on the show to go with God's good grace, 667 00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:35,039 and I ask you for that. Will continue to hold Joshua Caleb on our 668 00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:39,719 prayers and podcast. Family, Please do pray for Deb Joshua, Caleb, 669 00:47:40,159 --> 00:47:45,880 his sister, but also extend the prayers to all families who are going through 670 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,880 this and for all young men being impacted by an always on pornography society, 671 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,400 because Satan loves porn and he hates you. This is this Todd Hermann show. 672 00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,119 Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, and always 673 00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:01,559 wear the armor of gun.