WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:08.759 It's time for coffee and company, fueled my Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:11.679 day, Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we 3 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:16.079 are get off our show. Idiots, the kids are playing or turning off. 4 00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:19.280 The punctures are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, 5 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:24.000 gold Play Inner Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really 6 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:28.480 not. Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding 7 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:46.039 me? Now? Here's Nick coffee. So it's not uncommon for me to 8 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:49.479 mention the weather as we get the party started, just to kind of ease 9 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:52.200 into the show. You know, I'm sure a lot of you, if 10 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:54.880 you are in the Kentucky and area, you don't need me to tell you 11 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:58.600 the weather. But I've realized I may need you guys to inform me because 12 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:03.079 the last two days, whenever I have arrived here at our phenomenal four Street 13 00:01:03.120 --> 00:01:10.879 Live studios here, it's been sunny outside hot, disgusting humidity. But Sonny, 14 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:14.280 and then when I leave, as soon as I turn that corner in 15 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:17.200 the hallway, John, I can see outside our front door here. We're 16 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:21.280 on the second level at four Street, and like it's it's not flooded, 17 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.760 but la, there's big puddles. Yeah, so like clearly it rained a 18 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:29.599 ton and traffic on the way home yesterday and on Wednesday, because I mean 19 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:34.959 it must rain really hard because or just the roads need something done to it 20 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:42.640 to where there's not flooding on the interstate but right around that I'm so bad 21 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:45.280 at exits. But if you're heading Arthur Street right, yes, yeah, 22 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:49.599 sixty five South Arthur Street, Arthur Street exit area, you know, right 23 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:53.480 before you get to that gas station, and then of course next to it's 24 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:56.280 the Harley Davidson, I mean, it just puddles up. I mean it's 25 00:01:56.319 --> 00:02:00.000 literally like standing water. And I'm just thinking, okay, I got here. 26 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:02.760 I was. I was two forty five. Sometimes you know little actually 27 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:05.840 usually it's a lot earlier than that. But anyways, for it to be 28 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:07.240 flooded, it must have rained, like really hard. And I had no 29 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.439 clue. I mean, being in this cave is you know it's not it's 30 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:15.039 not bad, but yeah, the last two days came outside and I'm like, 31 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:17.719 wow, I guess it's stormed pretty bad. Put it in my GPS 32 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:21.759 just to you know, see what traffic is and there's I mean, in 33 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:24.560 fact, I think yesterday was an awful day for traffic all over Louisville, 34 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:28.879 and it's because of how hard it rains. So as of now it's not 35 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:31.319 raining outside. In fact, it's sunny. But you know, who knows 36 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:34.759 what it's gonna what it's gonna be the next three hours. I guess I'll 37 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:38.599 find out whenever I walk out of here in roughly three hours. All right, 38 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:43.080 again, it is Coffee and Company. You heard the professional voiceover guy. 39 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:46.199 That's us. We are fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety 40 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:50.000 Nick Coffee. That is me the company man, mister John Alden alongside today 41 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:53.080 and we have got a lot to get into today, a lot to unpack, 42 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:57.439 as they say, obviously night one of the NBA Draft, a lot 43 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:00.759 to react to from that, and we have night to tonight. Still felt 44 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:05.719 a little weird at being different than it's always been where they have two nights 45 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:07.680 of the draft. But I gotta be honest with you, I think I'm 46 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:12.159 gonna prefer this to be the way they do it, because you know there's 47 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:15.039 enough to You knew one round of the NBA Draft, and that gives you 48 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:16.919 a whole lot to you know, to chew on, and certainly a lot 49 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:21.520 to react to from that, and we'll do that today. But today we're 50 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:23.719 gonna hear from I mean, they're not gonna be on the show as live 51 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:29.120 guest, but we're gonna hear from the new Louisville basketball coach, who I 52 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:31.560 feel like had his first real press conference today. Certainly his press conference when 53 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:35.840 he was introduced as the coach was a real one. But that wasn't talking 54 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:38.719 who We weren't talking ball. We were really figuring out who hell this guy 55 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:42.560 is. I mean, by the time he approached the podium, we were 56 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:45.719 well aware of his resume, and I knew who Pat Kelsey was. I 57 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:47.960 mean, I was familiar with him for years, just because he's on the 58 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:53.039 Chris Matck coaching tree, and if you follow college basketball, you know Winthrop 59 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:57.240 was a tournament type team and then obviously Charleston for a couple of years really 60 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:01.280 good. So but this was different and he was talking basketball today and it 61 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:05.960 was nice to hear. I think he was pretty strategic as far as some 62 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:10.719 of the answers that he gave, and we all want to know every little 63 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:15.240 thing, right, we want to be receiving updates about every practice, which 64 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:16.959 players are standing out, who did good this day, who did good that 65 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:20.879 day, and that's just not realistic. But I think he's got to be 66 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:27.120 careful to not single anybody out, because I mean that matters nowadays, right, 67 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:29.399 I mean, he's a brand new team. He's still getting to know 68 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:33.120 these guys, learning sort of how they react to certain things, including what 69 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:38.439 said to the media. So I don't want to say that I feel underwhelmed 70 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:41.360 by his press conference. I didn't think he said anything wrong. He said 71 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:44.560 some good stuff to get me excited, but you know, he's not going 72 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:48.040 to give us a whole lot in you know, if you just consider the 73 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:51.079 situation here. But he did say enough to get me excited. And in 74 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:55.120 fact, it was the players, some of the players who talked after Pat 75 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:58.600 Kelsey today that that I thought said some things that should get fans really excited. 76 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.800 So we'll hear some clips from that press conference, but also we're gonna 77 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:06.240 hear from the old coach, not the previous coach, not the previous coach 78 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:12.480 before him, And I guess technically there's been two interims, so let's go 79 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:16.680 back five coaches ago. Rick Patino, so he was on Kentucky Sports Radio 80 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:20.879 this morning. And for those who don't listen to KSR on this station, 81 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:26.319 Matt Jones has been gone for seemingly, you know, I feel like Matt's 82 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:30.160 been gone forever, but he's been on a European vacation and he's had a 83 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:33.680 lot of fill ins over the last few weeks or however long he's been gone. 84 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:42.680 And the crew at the Pardon My Take Podcast PFT commentor Dan Bigcat Cats. 85 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:46.279 I feel silly giving them an introduction, as if people don't know who 86 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:51.879 they are but the internet and you know, a portion of this audience, 87 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:57.480 it's an entirely different audience, different world. So there are some people thinking, 88 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:02.920 who the hell's Big Cat PFT Comment or what who huh? That's their 89 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:10.480 stage name, right. They're entertainers and they're really, really, really successful 90 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:15.000 for Barstool Sports. I don't know if they still are at the top of 91 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.600 the charts, but for a long time they were the number one sports podcast 92 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:24.639 in the world. And again they mix in sports, but it's really entertainment 93 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:28.160 and they're really entertaining. I am big fans of those guys, and every 94 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:31.199 year they come on as one of Matt's fill in hosts, And the best 95 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:35.240 part of it is that there's so many Kentucky fans that don't know who they 96 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:38.680 are. In fact, if they do, they just know them now because 97 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:44.639 they're the guys who fill in once a year, and they hate it. 98 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:46.480 Now. Some people love it because they're again, they're funny. If you 99 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:48.959 get it, you like it probably, But if you don't know who they 100 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:51.439 are and you tune in, you're thinking, what is this, what are 101 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:58.519 we doing? This is nonsense? And they troll really really well. I 102 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:00.879 mean they had Goalky on today, guys. I mean, like that's phenomenal. 103 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:04.040 They had Sam Decker on at one point when they hosted, who of 104 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:08.959 course was one of the star players for Wisconsin who ended Kentucky's perfect season. 105 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:13.839 So, like, you know, they're they're funny, they're not super serious. 106 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:15.560 I find them to be highly entertaining, and clearly a lot of people 107 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:19.839 across the planet do because they're they're on top. But today they had Rick 108 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:29.639 Patino on as well as Jack Golkie, and Patino didn't really I mean, 109 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:31.639 I'll just get it out of the way if you haven't heard what Patino said 110 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:35.040 that has gotten some of the fan base a little worked up meeting the Louisville 111 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:42.439 fan base is that he said that he has donated nil money to the Kentucky 112 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:46.120 football program because of his friendship with Mark Stoops and Eddie Grant. And he 113 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:50.439 said that he would give Mark Pope money if he ever needed it. And 114 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:56.360 then when he talked about Kentucky, you mentioned once again that it was Camelot 115 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:00.759 and that he was treated great there and never had a bad day. And 116 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:03.160 we'll let you guys here and I'm not going to play the whole interview, 117 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:05.040 but there's some clips that I'll play with you. I'll play for you guys. 118 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:11.680 And he also said that at Louisville he wasn't treated well. And you 119 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:16.040 know, I guess my question to Louisville fans because I have a question for 120 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:20.279 Kentucky fans too. My question of Louisville fans is this, if you remove 121 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:26.360 emotion from the situation, which is hard to do because if you're a fan, 122 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:31.879 there's emotion involved, unless you're just kind of like a you know, 123 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:33.440 half ass fan, which, by the way, you know, be a 124 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:39.039 fan whoever you want. But if you know emotion is normal within your fanhood, 125 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.080 because again that's part of it. That's that's how you become a fan 126 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:46.879 because you've emotionally attached yourself. You have you know, skin in the game. 127 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:50.919 You're impacted emotionally. I mean that sounds dramatic, right, Like we're 128 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.159 not crying ourselves to sleep every night. I mean I am, but you 129 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:56.600 guys probably aren't because I'm a lunatic. But you know, you were happy 130 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:00.759 when your team loses, and you are sad when or you're happy when your 131 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.559 team wins and you're sad when your team loses. That's the emotions that come 132 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:05.039 with being a fan. So it's hard to remove it because without it, 133 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:09.600 you're like, well why do I care? But just try it remove emotion 134 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:18.519 from the question. What was your realistic expectation for Rick Bettino as far as 135 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:26.759 how he would feel and treat Louisville after he was fired? Because I think 136 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:35.840 any scenario where you thought he would be lovey dovey and gassing us up, 137 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:43.799 meeting the city, the school, the program, his you know, the 138 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:48.919 fans. Any scenario you thought that he'd be raving about us and just you 139 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:56.159 know, donating money to Louisville football, that's delusion. If there's any scenario. 140 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.679 You thought that was how this was ever going to work out. It 141 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:07.039 is pure delusion. He was fired here and he should have been fired here. 142 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:09.919 And when I say that, I mean, you know you got to 143 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:13.159 you can we can all try to rewrite history. But at the time when 144 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.240 that came out, I don't think Louisville had any other option than to take 145 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.960 action. Now, I guess they could have put him on leave and looked 146 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:26.440 into it on their end, but at that point, you know, he'd 147 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:30.159 already had a few strikes, if you know what I'm saying. So he 148 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:35.120 was fired. He still feels like he was wronged. I mean, he 149 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:43.919 still probably wakes up in a panic at night reliving the horrific, horrific situation 150 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.559 that played out for him where he showed up to the basketball facilities and they 151 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:50.840 changed the locks. Remember when he mentioned that, like every interview whenever, 152 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.039 he was just I'm never doing a radio interview again. Then he did a 153 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.919 radio radio in every later that day, and he would talk about how how 154 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:01.120 he you know, how you know Pete Man, Papa John wronged him and 155 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:07.120 David Grissom and all those people, and then and they changed the locks. 156 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:09.080 I mean, he kept bringing up changing locks, so he feels as if 157 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:16.360 he was screwed over. So I mean, I don't think it's like a 158 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.960 personal thing to where he's like, oh yeah, those Louisville fans, the 159 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:24.240 hell with him. But he doesn't. Rick doesn't think about fans. I 160 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:28.799 mean, Rick, that's just not who he is. How many times did 161 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:33.240 Rick Patino ever mention fans during his run at Louisville. I mean, he 162 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:37.480 didn't go out of his way to bag on him, and I'm sure at 163 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:41.120 times he would occasionally say thanks to the fans. But Rick, Rick's a 164 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:46.320 larger than life guy, Like he's not gonna spend much time talking about fans. 165 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:48.759 So like he's not thinking, oh man, I really missed that Louisville 166 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:50.600 fan base, not because we did anything wrong, not because he doesn't like 167 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:54.000 us. But he's Rick Patino. He's not human compared to most. He's 168 00:11:54.039 --> 00:12:01.000 a different dude. So I get fans just being a little turned off by 169 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:07.440 that. And clearly Rick knew what he was doing, sharing to the world 170 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:11.240 that he's donating money to Kentucky football in an il. I mean, he 171 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:16.240 knows what he's doing. So maybe that is just a jerk move, but 172 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:22.480 he doesn't care because he's never cared. He's Rick Patino. He's in his 173 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:33.080 own world. And another thing, I believe that he is genuinely who's walking 174 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:39.120 in here while I'm on I mean sorry, I mean the delight says on 175 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:43.879 the air, and I can't see who it was. But we okay, 176 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.159 well I heard voices out in the hallway, but I didn't know they were 177 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:52.639 near your room. Yeah, so anyways, now lost we were talking about 178 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.679 him being in his own world, Rick Patino, let me reset here. 179 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:05.320 Kentucky and Louisville are both places Rick Patino coach dad had success, and I 180 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:09.200 think he enjoyed his time at Louisville until you know the end. And look, 181 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:15.120 Rick got away with things no other coaches would get away with. I 182 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:20.679 mean, let's be real, Rick Pattino. I mean he survived two things 183 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.960 that most would not survive. And I don't mean like he survived as if 184 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:26.200 he was able to keep, you know, stay alive. I mean like 185 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:30.200 he kept his job. I mean, again, we don't need to get 186 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:31.519 into all of it today. But the Karen Cipher thing, I mean that 187 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:33.840 is a personal thing, not really related to his job. But he is 188 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:39.440 somebody that has high importance with that position, and most coaches would not be 189 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:41.840 able to keep their job if that played out the way that they did. 190 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:46.840 We'll never know because it's not happening. It's not often you see college basketball 191 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:52.399 coaches getting caught up in that kind of thing, right, Like, it's 192 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:56.360 not one of those things where college basketball head coach extorted for, you know, 193 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.399 fornicating with a woman on a table in an Italian restaurant in town. 194 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:01.440 It's not one of those things. Oh it happened again. Yeah, man, 195 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:03.600 they got to do something about that. Man, that's running rampant within 196 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:07.039 college basketball. It's just not how it works. So nobody got fired at 197 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:09.799 all for the minority hall stuff, which is just crazy to think about many 198 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:15.159 years later. So, like you know, Rick Rick was able to survive 199 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:18.960 that, and him being Rick Patino, he never really felt like he should 200 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.879 be appreciative of that because he just thinks he's larger than life and anybody that 201 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:24.320 would ever want to not have him as their coach, like that's their problem. 202 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:26.919 So you know, he enjoyed his time here, but then it ended 203 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:31.679 really badly and he's i think always going to be bitter about that, even 204 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.559 though his personal feelings about it, meaning like who they are towards. It's 205 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:41.279 people that aren't around anymore, Papa John, David Grissom, Greg Postal, 206 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:45.559 those people, they're not here anymore, right, So, like he's mad, 207 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:52.159 and I don't think he needs anybody that's here currently to like point that 208 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.919 anger directly towards. And some would say, well, then he's taking it 209 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:56.960 out on fans by doing this and telling us that he's donating, Like, 210 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.159 I think it's a totally different situation. And if he never coached to Kentucky, 211 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:03.399 right, Like, if he's just a random guy that you know, 212 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.759 if he's just randomly on this show as Louisville's former coach and he says he's 213 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:11.960 donating money to the Rivals football program, Like that's I mean, that doesn't 214 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.399 even make any sense. Who would do that? But oftentimes people forget the 215 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.519 fact that he was at Kentucky for a long time. He wasn't wronged by 216 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:22.399 them, He had great success there and his biggest regret ever is leaving. 217 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:26.080 So it was easy for us to not think about that because Kentucky fans hated 218 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:31.080 his ass when he was at Louisville, but Rick always loved Kentucky, the 219 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:35.519 job, the situation, everything that comes with it. So when Mark Pope 220 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:41.960 got the job, I mean, I can't say that I share any of 221 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:46.879 the similar feelings that a lot of Louisville fans have as far as him being 222 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:50.159 excited in wanting Mark Pope to do well. Mark Pope was a captain for 223 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:54.240 him on the only championship team he had at Kentucky. I mean, I 224 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:58.480 still feel like he was a big part of the eight nineteen ninety eight team, 225 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:03.480 but clearly, you know, Tubby was the coach. So I'm not 226 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.639 at all surprised that he is over the moon about Mark Pope and wants to 227 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:10.519 see him do well and feels very very I mean, if you ask Rick 228 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:14.080 the best time in his basketball career, I guarantee you he would say Kentucky. 229 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:17.320 In fact, I think he actually said exactly that in some former fashion 230 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:22.000 earlier today. So the football stuff is weird, and that makes it seem 231 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:26.159 as if like he is trying to maybe go out of his way to let 232 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.159 Louisville fans know like where his allegiance lies between the two. And I'm not 233 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:34.519 telling anybody like we should be happy about it, but I just I am 234 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:38.279 not at all surprised to hear these kind of things, because even when Rick 235 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:42.240 was here, he never talked bad about Kentucky. The only thing I could 236 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:45.320 think of he said was something along the lines of, you know, their 237 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:51.000 fans were like, it's their whole life, which I think at the time 238 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:52.840 when he made those comments it was more of like, you know, their 239 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:57.240 losers, but who knows, maybe he meant it as a compliment. So 240 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:02.399 today felt like the day for or at least some to kind of finally say, 241 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:04.599 all right, this guy, it's over. We had a great run, 242 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:11.920 bad ending, but he's he doesn't care about us, And I've kind 243 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:17.880 of already been there because for me, this is always I mean, even 244 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:22.160 with current coaches, this is all transactional. They can appreciate, they can 245 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:27.440 care, they can really you know, have an investment into the program they're 246 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:30.720 coaching at, and they can coach there for two decades and win championships, 247 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:33.400 but at the end of the day, you know what it is for them, 248 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:38.759 It is a job. It is transactional. So emotion that diehard fans 249 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:42.079 have for programs is never going to be the same type of an emotion that 250 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.240 a coach has. Doesn't mean they don't care and that it's only about money. 251 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.519 I mean, it is mostly about money. I mean, not the 252 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.319 only factor for these coaches, but it's a big factor. Right, So 253 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.240 maybe you know you look at Rick as a villain now and you didn't before. 254 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:00.000 But I mean, I just I'm put it this way. I'm just 255 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:03.519 not surprised because it's Rick. And again I go back to my initial question. 256 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:07.799 If you're if you're a Louisville fan, what did you realistically expect Rick 257 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:12.599 Pottino? I guess I should rephrase it, how did you realistically expect Patino 258 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:17.839 to feel about Louisville. He still thinks, right or wrong, that he 259 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.119 was, you know, betrayed by U L and they fired him and he 260 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.279 shouldn't have been fired. I mean that's the way he's always going to feel. 261 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:32.599 And you know, I don't see that ever changing. I don't. 262 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:37.319 And in Kentucky he wasn't fired. He left and the only you know, 263 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:41.880 the only thing he would he would, I guess have a real gripe about 264 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.920 about UK was about their how their fans treated him and felt about him when 265 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:49.039 he was at Louisville. But Rick is one of those guys that like even 266 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.279 if he did pay attention to it, he'd never acknowledge that he was really 267 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:56.359 plugged into what fans of anybody was saying about him, because he's such a 268 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:00.920 he's such a larger than life person to where he would never want anybody to 269 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:03.079 know that he even knows fans exist, like that's just who he is. 270 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:07.240 But here's what he had to say about the UK football stuff, which I 271 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.359 gotta be honest, I had no clue, Like I wouldn't have been if 272 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:15.559 this is not an exaggeration. I mean this, if that interview took place 273 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:19.119 earlier today and somebody asked him about Mark Stoops, I wouldn't have been shocked 274 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:22.599 if Rick Patino said he wasn't familiar with who that was. Turns out their 275 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:26.880 friends which didn't see that coming. Well, I actually cut a checked to 276 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:34.960 the football program because I'm a casual friend of Mark and Eddie Grin and cut 277 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:38.759 a check to the football program. But I would definitely cut a check if 278 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:44.920 Mark needs me for anything, no matter what, except for my firstborn Michael, 279 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:51.400 he could have it. So I mean that's random. I don't you 280 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:55.440 know. I just I guess in a way, if he's providing money to 281 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:57.720 help UK football. He's hurting Louisville because there our rival. But again I 282 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:03.400 could just and also is anybody like fact check that to see if that's even 283 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:06.079 true? Because Rick let let's beck Rick lies. I mean, like we 284 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:08.279 know that, but like that's the last thing I would have expected him to 285 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:15.200 say on that interview. Here's another clip that I'll play for you, and 286 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:22.960 some of this, I mean, honestly, every bit of this nineteen second 287 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:26.519 clip is something maybe not He's not said it all like this in one you 288 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.720 know, in one sound clip, but everything within this these are things we've 289 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.720 heard him say before, either when he was here or since he's left. 290 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.039 Well, I actually cut it here we go. I didn't get treated great. 291 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.519 One. I always called University of Kentucky Camelot for me. I never 292 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:45.279 had a bad year, never had a bad day. They treated me like 293 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:51.000 a king. They treated me with great respect, so I only had Obviously 294 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:53.799 I didn't get treated great when I was at Louisville. But sitting back on 295 00:20:53.920 --> 00:21:00.680 and examining it today, I totally understand why. So I mean, even 296 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:06.279 that he says he didn't get treated Louisville, didn't get treated great at Louisville, 297 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:08.440 and then he later added, looking back on it, now I understand 298 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:14.519 why. I guess he means that Kentucky fans didn't treat him great at Louisville. 299 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.400 Is that what he means or they he understands that the mistakes that he 300 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:22.680 made it Louisville. So let's yeah, let's let's replay that, because I 301 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:25.440 there's a couple of different things this could mean. But I think I actually 302 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:26.920 the first couple of times I listened to it, I think I kind of 303 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:30.119 took it the wrong way. I was. I was of the belief that 304 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:33.319 he was saying he didn't get treated great by Louisville. I think what he 305 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:37.440 means is he didn't get treated great by Kentucky when he was at Louisville. 306 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:41.599 And he now understands why, let's see if that's I think that's what he 307 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:45.160 meant. I always called University of Kentucky camelot for me. I never had 308 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.880 a bad year, never had a bad day. They treated me like a 309 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:53.920 king. They treated me with great respect, so I only had Obviously I 310 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.240 didn't get treated great when I was at Louisville. But sitting sitting back on 311 00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:00.640 it and examining it today, I totally understand why that's what he meant, 312 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.839 right, Yeah, I'm with you now, that makes total sense. So 313 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:06.400 he's not even really saying he was treated bad at Louisville, but he feels 314 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:08.759 like he was, and and he's he said that. I mean, he's 315 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:11.640 also said that he, you know, he should have been fired. He 316 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:15.119 said that once on some random radio show that he did when he got the 317 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:18.079 job at IONA. So look, I don't think he thinks about us at 318 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:22.839 all anymore, and I don't think we should think about him. I'm not 319 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:23.920 telling you to hate him. I mean I love the time when he was 320 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:27.200 here, and I can't say that I hate him because I just you know, 321 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:30.599 I don't. I don't be a lie. I mean, I'm not 322 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:34.680 going to be watch watching Saint John's every game, but you know, it 323 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:37.160 is the Kentucky football thing. I just don't get, Like, on what 324 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:41.759 planet does Eddie Grant and Rick Patino hang out? I mean, I don't. 325 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.759 That to me is just just odd. All right, we'll get to 326 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:48.920 our first break. So if you're a louis A fan and you're saying, 327 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:52.559 the hell with Patino? Cool, like, I mean, we don't you 328 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:56.160 know at some point, which I feel like we kind of were there and 329 00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:59.000 then this happened. But like there's just really it's kind of going out of 330 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:00.559 your way to even bring him up in more. But he is still like 331 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:03.920 Cali Perry, one of the two coaches in college basketball that when they do 332 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:08.279 things they talk it generates attention because they are larger than life figures. That's 333 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:11.640 what we used to have around here. Now we got guys that are total 334 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.880 opposites and look, they may be just as successful. We'll have to wait 335 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:19.839 and see. But if you're a Kentucky fan, like do you feel do 336 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.640 you feel bad? Because like I'm sure you hear that and you like it 337 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.440 and you're like, wow, Rix, welcome back, welcome back to the 338 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:30.359 family. But like, you know, you loathe that man when he was 339 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:32.880 at Louisville, which I guess you should he was coaching the rival. But 340 00:23:32.920 --> 00:23:34.119 it just if I was a Kentucky fan, I wouldn't know how to feel. 341 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:37.359 But as a Louisville fan, feel the way Phil, whatever way you 342 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:41.279 want. I just I'm not at all that's surprised by the way Rick feels 343 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.640 and things he says. But the UK football andil donation. I mean, 344 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:52.319 huh, that's right. Coffee and Company fuel by Thornton's here on Sports Talk 345 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:56.240 seven ninety. Make sure you sign up to become a member of the Thornton's 346 00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:59.559 Refreshman Awards program if you haven't already. 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And for those you know, I don't even know 357 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:33.559 why you even mentioned his name anymore. He's not the coach around here. 358 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:37.519 This is Louisville. Like again, I hear you, but you you know, 359 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:42.240 with all due respect, you have no clue how any of this works. 360 00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:49.119 Like Rick Patino, one of the more legendary coaches ever, goes on 361 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:56.240 a show on this station and says that he's donated money to the Louisville Rivals 362 00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:03.920 football program through NIL. That's the story. This is a radio show, 363 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:11.599 So I don't know why I get triggered by that sometimes, but like, 364 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:15.160 whatever you do, you do. Radio is what we're doing, and this 365 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:19.440 is something that would would be discussed and if not, you don't know how, 366 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:22.720 then you're not doing this right. Not to say that I'm better than 367 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:27.559 anybody else, but this is this is this is something that is worthy of 368 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:34.359 bringing up. So anyways, for those who are just not joining us. 369 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.640 But Tinos, as I just mentioned, he went on KSR this morning and 370 00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:41.839 the majority of his interview was just you know, it didn't run the whole 371 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:47.039 lot there, but he did mention that he's donated money to the Kentucky football 372 00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:49.839 program in NIL and would do the same thing for Mark Pope if he asked. 373 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:52.440 And I do feel like for some fans, and it's certainly shown on 374 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.839 the text line that this was kind of the full confirmation of all right, 375 00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:02.359 I'm kind of you know, completely over it, which I don't think anybody 376 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:03.759 thought it was realistic that he was going to come back and be the coach 377 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.279 here, you know, I mean, and if you did, you're just 378 00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:14.440 wrong. But you know, when things got so bad at Louisville after well 379 00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:18.319 towards the end of Chris Mack, and then Rick was at Iona, and 380 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:21.640 then he made the tournament, and then of course he gets to Saint John's 381 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.160 and you know, he's still a guy that's going to move the needle in 382 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:30.240 in college basketball. I think because we sucked so bad, we found ourselves 383 00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:34.720 reliving the good days of Rick Patino and really, you know, missing the 384 00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:40.680 fact that we used to have a legendary Hall of Fame coach. I think 385 00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:45.519 if Louisville was successful, you wouldn't have had that reaction. Now again, 386 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:48.920 maybe you'd still miss him every now and then, and you'd still go back 387 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.119 and look, you should still think very fondly of the great years that Louisville 388 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:56.119 had here, because they were great. I mean, I don't, I 389 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.079 don't. I can't relate and understand how what he said today would make you 390 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:06.880 feel any different about out his time here, the good days. But he's 391 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:08.880 he's not you know, and I hate to say this because I don't know 392 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:12.359 this to be a fact, but I don't know freak Patino ever really cared 393 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:18.799 about like the program and the fans. He cared about him. And when 394 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:22.680 he did care about the program, it was because of him, I mean, 395 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.640 And that's that's really not that uncommon now. He loves his players, 396 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:32.920 and I think he will always always love the players that were here, especially 397 00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:36.920 that very special team that won a national championship. And I'm biased. Those 398 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:38.720 guys were great players that of course led to a great run here that that 399 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:44.440 gave lot of the third national championship, but they're also special guys, you 400 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.000 know that that I know he really loved coaching. Russ Smith changed Rick Patino 401 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.400 as far as a coach. Peyton you know, was the you know, 402 00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.559 perfect point guard for him, a guy who you know, never had a 403 00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:59.440 bad day of practice, never had a bad attitude, and that's hard to 404 00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:02.039 do when you're playing for Ry Patinos. So for some we had a good 405 00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.039 question that came up on the text line said, like, realistically speaking, 406 00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:08.119 is there will there ever be a scenario where like he's he's brought back to 407 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:12.200 be honored and it's tough to say at this point, but I think yes, 408 00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:19.680 there will be because if he's retired, like let's say, and by 409 00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:25.279 the way, there's actually good timing here because eventually thet there instead of LA 410 00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:32.279 is already revamping how they're gonna go about punishing people and uh, you know, 411 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:36.079 encouraging you to cooperate. And Louisville lost a national championship banner. Nobody's 412 00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.720 ever lost a banner, and Louisville cooperated throughout that entire thing, and now 413 00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.960 you know, they're really wanting to incentivize you for cooperating. So at some 414 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:45.119 point Louisville will get their banner back. I don't know when that's gonna be, 415 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.160 but and I don't really care if they get it back. But if 416 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:53.240 they do, let's say they get it back five six years, if the 417 00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:59.480 fifteen year anniversary of that championship team is somewhere in the ballpark of when they 418 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.799 get the banner back, and Rick Pottino is retired at that point, which 419 00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:07.359 isn't crazy to think about because of his age. If his players urged him 420 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.440 to come back, I think he would for them, And I think at 421 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.440 that point, you know, he might feel that he really was. I 422 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.519 mean, actually, begin I don't know if Potto has feelings, so I 423 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:18.559 was gonna say he might feel like he was beloved here. But again, 424 00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.039 I to me, Rick's not human. And I don't say that to insult 425 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:26.960 him, but like he's one of the least relatable, certainly the least relatable 426 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:30.039 coach that I can think of that that I've you know, I've ever that's 427 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.640 ever coached the team that I'm a big fan of. And that's not a 428 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.640 crime. It's just, you know, like I don't think he thinks and 429 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.480 cease think, thinks about thinks of things the same way, and thinks of 430 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.599 things the way that you know that we do. But anyways, or let's 431 00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:45.680 go to the phone lines five O two, five seven, one seventy nine 432 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.039 hundred is the number if you want to jump in and join us. Let's 433 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.599 go to Alison Allison Europe. First, How you doing today? Good? 434 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.400 Nick? How are you not too bad? So, you know, with 435 00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:57.759 the Patino situation, you know, you don't want to take away the success 436 00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:02.640 that he had and line to that, he did provide us with some players. 437 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.759 You know who won is on the staff, the current Louisville staff, 438 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.279 and he won a national championship with so tying to the comment that he made 439 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:15.359 about Mark Popen and I l there's really no difference. I can I understand 440 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.200 Mark Mark Pope's the head coach, but you know Peyton and Steve who's on 441 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.000 the Louisville basketball staff. You know. And another thing is, you know, 442 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:25.920 when you're the guy in George, you take the fall. You know 443 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.160 that was your program, you were the head coach. You know, not 444 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.960 only did we lose Rick, we also lost, in my opinion, one 445 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.960 of the best athletic directors that we'll ever see, you know. So I 446 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:41.200 think there's just so many things that tie tie into it for him to make 447 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.319 that comment. But you know, if he wants to give to Mark stops 448 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:47.759 his six and six squad that gets excited about beating Louisville every year, go 449 00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:49.359 for it. You know. That's all I got. So that's all I 450 00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:53.240 got. Next time. Thanks appreciate you, Allison. And it's a really 451 00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:57.240 good point. Peyton. Steve is not the head coach, but he is 452 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:03.039 in the door here as a college basketball staffer for Pat Kelsey. And you 453 00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.000 know Pat talked about Peyton today, and you know, Peyton's one of those 454 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.440 guys that you're kind of gonna hear the same thing every time someone is asked 455 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.039 to talk about him, because he's he's that special of a guy as a 456 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.319 person, and of course he was a hell of a player too. But 457 00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:22.680 yeah, I mean that that's that's a great point. I mean, I 458 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.119 don't know if Peyton getting the job at Louisville would have would have was, 459 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.400 you know, because again Peyton's uh, you know, he's he's the director 460 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.920 of a player development alumni relations. I think that is his his title. 461 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:36.519 In fact, I think it's the title that Milt Wagner had last year and 462 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:41.000 the year before. So yeah, I mean that's that's that's fair. You 463 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:42.440 know, you would think that he even if he's not going to give the 464 00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:47.640 same type of reaction, because again Peyton's not the head coach, he should 465 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:49.440 still, I think, go out of his way, and really isn't It 466 00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.359 isn't going out of your way. It's what most coaches would do, is 467 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:59.079 to you know, publicly congratulate their former player who helped them win a national 468 00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:02.720 championship, was a haptain and is now employed for the program. I mean 469 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:06.480 like, yeah, that's that's a fair point, and I know those two 470 00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:07.400 have a great relationship too, by the way, so it's not like it's 471 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.799 personal. But if anything, it's Rick not wanting to do it because it's 472 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:17.119 Louisville and that's just him being him, and I think he'll always feel better 473 00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.680 about that, which is wild because Rix, one of Rick's biggest lies that 474 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:27.039 he told consistently to all of us was get get better, not bitter. 475 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.599 I'm not bitter, which you're very bitter. That's that's who you are. 476 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:37.119 So anyways, we'll move on, all right. Again, I want somebody 477 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.599 to tell me how I mean we are moving on, but how the hell 478 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:44.839 Rick Betino and Eddie Gran friends, Like, somebody's gonna have to explain that 479 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.640 to me. For those who't know who Eddie Grant is, which I'm sure 480 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:52.279 John had no clue who Eddie Graan was, correct, Eddie Gran is a 481 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:59.119 I guess he's still a UK football staffer, but he's Mark Mark Stoop's former 482 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:06.519 oh who is just just the just the you know, just a proxy like 483 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:10.319 Eddie Gran is Mark Stoop's good old buddy who's never really done much as an 484 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:15.640 OC. In fact, his resume includes him only being the offensive coordinator. 485 00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:21.200 I mean I guess he did have a run at Florida State for a couple 486 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.079 of years, but uh, he went to Cincinnati for a couple of years. 487 00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:28.079 But he was Kentucky's OC for four or five years and now he's the 488 00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:30.119 is a special assistant to the head coach. But he was a terrible OC 489 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.519 and I feel like he never even got to call the plays. It was 490 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:36.240 just, you know, he was gonna do what Stoops wanted to do, 491 00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:37.920 which is run the ball every time and try to win the score, you 492 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:40.559 know, six to three, try to win by a score of six to 493 00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:45.240 three. So you know, he seems to be just playing. You know, 494 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:46.599 I don't know him personally. Maybe he's a wild party guy. And 495 00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.599 that's how him and Patino connected on South Beach or something at you know, 496 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:52.240 one of the fancy you know Italian regis. I don't know, I have 497 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.920 no clue, but that is not something I was anticipating to hear, is 498 00:33:55.000 --> 00:34:00.279 that Patino is close friends with close relationship with with Stu. Just like I 499 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.599 still don't understand that. But like you know, he Stoops. He's the 500 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:06.200 head coach of an SEC team. But Eddie Graan and that's a that that 501 00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:07.760 threw me off a little bit. All right, what I want to do 502 00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:10.840 on the other side here is talk about last night's NBA draft. Again. 503 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:14.880 We are gonna let you hear from Pat Kelsey. Uh. There's like three 504 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:16.840 clips I feel like are worthy of you guys hearing. One is him discussing 505 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:22.159 the uh, the defensive philosophy that is that that he has as a coach, 506 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:30.400 and the other two were questions about starting lineup and like who's emerging as 507 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:32.960 you know the guy. I think the question actually asked, like who are 508 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.280 the dogs? So I really liked his answer. You know, I will 509 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:38.559 go ahead and tell you there's not a whole lot to take from this presser, 510 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.519 and that's okay. But it's the first time we're hearing Pat Kelsey talk 511 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:46.039 a little ball with talking ball, but maybe not just talking about you know, 512 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.119 him being here as the coach. He's here and it's happening. They're 513 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:52.119 gonna be playing a game I think a month from the day in the Bahamas. 514 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:55.360 All right, stick with us right here at this coffee and company. 515 00:34:55.400 --> 00:35:00.679 Feilbout Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety so earlier. I said I said this 516 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:06.679 on Twitter right after the comment Patino made sort of took off as far as 517 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:13.800 his donation to the Kentucky Football Nil collective. Rick's just mad that we've got 518 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:21.360 an alpha now in Pat Kelsey, because again, I refuse to believe that 519 00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:25.360 Pat Kelsey on his birthday going to dinner and taking a picture with his parents 520 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:31.760 at Porcinie's was a coincidence. Rick's mad that we took Porcini's back. That's 521 00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:35.880 what it is. That's why he won't congratulate Peyton. That's why he's you 522 00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:42.360 know, being petty and you know, gassing up UK. And really you 523 00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:47.960 have done him talking up Kentucky basketball specifically with it being about Pope, like 524 00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.360 that's not unusual. It'd be unusual for him not to do that. Now, 525 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.039 maybe he's gone a little over the top and mentioning he was gonna give 526 00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:59.519 him money, like that's different. But a former player of his who won 527 00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.119 a national championship and was a captain on that team is now coaching that program 528 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:07.360 that they were there together, like that is normal for a coach to you 529 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:13.559 know, think fondly, to feel good about something like that. And you 530 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.840 know, that's a good point that came in on the text line by the 531 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:16.760 way if you want to text, and you can five O two six five 532 00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:20.960 three zero seven ninety. It's the L and N Federal Credit Union text line 533 00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:27.400 that when it comes to Louisville fans bringing up this is what somebody said on 534 00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:30.760 the text line when it comes to Louisville fans bringing up how badly Kentucky fans 535 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.159 treated Rick when he was there. I guess he did kind of allude to 536 00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.400 that. But again, I don't think Rick Patino thinks about fans of anybody. 537 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.159 He just does. So when he thinks of fond days at Kentucky, 538 00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:43.960 Hey, Kentucky fans, he's not really thinking about you. He's thinking about 539 00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:45.480 the people that he got to know and he was close with that he worked 540 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:50.639 with, you know, rich friends that he made in Lexton's that's legitimately what 541 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:52.679 it is. And you know what he made some rich friends when he was 542 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:53.880 still in Louisville or when he was in Louisville, and he's still friends with 543 00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:57.559 him today. And you know, those are the people that were really, 544 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.000 you know, going out of their way to try to get Richard Petite. 545 00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:05.920 You know the job here, all right. Pat Kelsey earlier today had his 546 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:09.000 press conference just to give us an update now that he's been working with these 547 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:12.239 guys for the last couple of weeks. Also talk a little bit about the 548 00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.320 trip to the Bahamas. We'll play some clips throughout the show, and this 549 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:19.719 one was the first question that came in, and he did before answering it, 550 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.559 talk about how awesome it was to see a full room at the press 551 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:27.679 conference in you know, late June. You could tell this is something that 552 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.920 you know, I'm sure he's excited about that. It's just different here, 553 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:35.639 but that'll eventually fade, you know, it's gonna he'll get more used to 554 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.559 it. But I happen to really like the fact that, you know, 555 00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:44.519 he's honestly probably every day realizing like, man, I'm in a place where 556 00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:47.400 people really like basketball matters. With that adds pressure, but it's also awesome. 557 00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:51.000 I feel like if you're that guy and you embrace that, like, 558 00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.119 you know, my man's made it. Now he's got to win because this 559 00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:57.719 is a job where you need to win. But him being here is a 560 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.679 big deal for him as a basketball coach, and I'm I'm sure personally he 561 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:02.719 feels, you know, like it's I don't want to say a dream come 562 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:05.960 true. But if it is, it wouldn't shock me if that's how he 563 00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:10.599 sees it. But might have been CD Kaplan who asked him about his defensive 564 00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:14.960 philosophy. And I thought that was interesting to hear they're gonna be a team 565 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:19.559 that plays half court man de man defense, and yes there are some. 566 00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.039 I mean, he didn't say it today. He probably has been told not 567 00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:24.079 to say the word, but pack line. I mean, you got to 568 00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:28.679 keep in mind he came from the same coaching tree Chris mac did coach Prosser. 569 00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:30.559 So they're gonna play half court manda man defense, but they're also going 570 00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:34.920 to play fast, which is kind of rare and the school. I guess 571 00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.079 I should say the program that he mentioned as far as you know, we'll 572 00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.000 let you hear it for yourself. But this should get you excited if you've 573 00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:45.480 watched this basketball team in the last couple of years. That's a great question. 574 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.000 First of all, it's pretty cool afternoon in June to have a press 575 00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.400 conference, look around, have a packed room like this. The passion for 576 00:38:53.519 --> 00:39:00.800 Louisville basketball never ceases to amaze me. So kudos to Cardinal to you guys 577 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:05.800 for coming out. Love that question. When you ask have I been around 578 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.599 my guys to know enough of what our defensive identity is going to look like. 579 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:14.000 We had a pretty good idea going in of what we do and how 580 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:20.360 we do it defensively. Obviously, when we recruit we take those things into 581 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:22.719 consideration. Who are the type of players that kind of fit who we play? 582 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.039 I think I might have been asked this at the press conference, the 583 00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:32.880 introductory press conference. I'm not sure we are predominantly I would say ninety nine 584 00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:37.320 point nine percent a half court man de man team. I think it's an 585 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:43.719 interesting dichotomy that we do play fast on the offensive end. There's a lot 586 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.280 of possessions in our game. We tilt the floor, but our philosophy in 587 00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:52.599 the half court is more of a half court mand a man team. I 588 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:59.320 compare us schematically a lot to Alabama in that regard. Both have a lot 589 00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.559 of possession in their game. They pushed the ball offensively, but hang their 590 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.159 hat on a tough, tenacious, nasty, half court manda man defense. 591 00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:15.639 So I mean again Alabama, I feel like when people discuss the new way 592 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.880 of playing basketball spacing a lot of possessions, a lot of three point shots, 593 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:23.800 you're really really tracking to get a good look from three point range, 594 00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.679 or get a layup, get to the rim, paint, touch to where 595 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.360 you're you know, you've you've gotten there to get yourself in a position to 596 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:34.719 get a high percentage shot, or get to the foul line. So you 597 00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:37.519 know, easier said than done. But I think they've built the personnel here 598 00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:39.840 with this roster to play like that. Now. You know a lot of 599 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:44.760 people mentioning Alabama defensively because they were really bad last year on defense. They 600 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.239 were one to eleven in the Kent Palm and Adjusted defense. But that's not 601 00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:51.840 always been the case for Natos's teams. I mean, in fact, if 602 00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.639 you go back to the twenty twenty three season, when they went thirty one 603 00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:59.199 and six with Brandon Miller and at times looked like the best team in the 604 00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.480 country before they lost to San Diego State in the sweet sixteen, they were 605 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:07.719 number three in the country defensively in ken Pom number three and their offense was 606 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.519 twenty. So I don't know why people have this mind. I guess because 607 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.039 Bama was just so bad defensively last year at times. I don't know if 608 00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:17.920 people realize that's not always been the case for Natos's teams now, they've not 609 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.800 always been great, but it's not as if if you choose to play that 610 00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.280 way you're just going to be lousy. And natots in twenty twenty one, 611 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:29.239 I believe, which was NATO's first year there at Alabama twenty six and seven, 612 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.119 lost again in the sweet sixteen to UCLA that went on to lose to 613 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:37.199 Gonzaga in the final four. They were once again number three in the country 614 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.920 defensively. So I mean, if you can do it now. Again, 615 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:45.039 I'm not saying Louis was about to turn into Alabama, but that ski you 616 00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:46.679 know, schematically, you know, being similar to them, and that's the 617 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:50.840 way you want to do it. And I'm not saying he's copying natoates in 618 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:55.400 Alabama, but that's a really exciting way to play and it's super effective if 619 00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:59.360 you know, if you've got the personnel, and we'll see how it all 620 00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:01.119 works out. Man, they got I mean, there's not many guys on 621 00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:05.800 that. There's one guy and it's Kudor tray O, a the transfer from 622 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:07.079 Long Beach State, who I love. I think it's gonna be hard to 623 00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:10.480 keep him off the floor. Very unique player. Man, you think about 624 00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:15.280 his stat line. A guy who had who really can't shoot it, and 625 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.519 you know he's six' five, but yet he's got insane bounce, some 626 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.480 of the longest arms you'll ever see, just dominates the stat sheet. But 627 00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.400 and he knows, he knows he's not a shooter, so guys will back 628 00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.320 off of him, and he'll just take advantage of that find himself in a 629 00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:34.679 position to you know, to rack up the assists. So he's not a 630 00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.400 shooter, like he's not like he's one of those guys that probably more often 631 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:38.960 than not, will not take an open look. But other than that, 632 00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:42.800 most of the guys they put on the floor are guys that if you leave 633 00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.639 them open and they get a high percentage look, you know, they can 634 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:46.960 knock it down at a pretty good rate. Now you're gonna have guys that 635 00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:50.880 have off shooting nights and sometimes it's gonna be hard to get good looks. 636 00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:53.320 But man, I liked here in that a lot. As far as schematically, 637 00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:57.800 I mean, Natoats and Alabama you know they're not they're you know, 638 00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:00.559 they've not done what Yukon has done. But that was huge for Natots to 639 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:04.079 get to a final four this year because he'd been building right, he'd been 640 00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.480 tracking towards it. Batbama's been good since he's been there, and then this 641 00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:10.280 year it's a breakthrough win for Bama to get to a Final four. So 642 00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:13.519 again, I don't want to act like louis was about to be Alabama and 643 00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:15.440 go on that kind of run, but it isn't crazy to think that they 644 00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:20.159 could. They could have success right out of the gate, and maybe in 645 00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.639 you know, four or five years time, like natoats, maybe Louisville finds 646 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:29.360 themselves breaking through. All right, there's more from Kelsey as far as the 647 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:35.800 Bahamas trip. I feel like he was strategically trying not to mention names specifically 648 00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:38.320 when asked questions, and I think that was smart. I want, I 649 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:42.440 want to hear the I want to hear everything, but I think he's wanting 650 00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.639 to keep guys motivated, not wanting to prop up one guy not the other. 651 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.360 But he did slip talking about one guy when it comes to leadership. 652 00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:51.840 We'll talk about that. Lets you hear what he had to say and keep 653 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:53.960 this party rolling along. But what I want to do when we get the 654 00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:57.440 four o'clock hour started, something we haven't done yet really at all, which 655 00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:00.800 is talk about last night's Round one of the NBAH SO Stick with Us, 656 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:08.360 Don't go anywhere, keep it locked right here on Sports Talk seven ninety mm HM