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Robert, how are you doing. I'm doing very well, George,
thanks for asking, and you've reached out to us, and you are also
I'm glad to hear you have your own podcast going the Flat Earth Reality.
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Robert, why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. All
right, Well, my name is Robert. I'm twenty seven years old.
I'll be twenty eight in October. I live in Georgia, southeast, and
this summers of brutal. If you don't know, yeah, that's that's about
it. I guess, yeah, I know it gets brutal down there.
The heat, the humidity, all of it. It is hot for sure.
Tell us a little bit about your journey to the truth, and for
you it's a little different than than a lot of us, like where the
flat Earth was kind of the last stop for you, it was one of
the first stops. Tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, So
I guess I want to start out with how open minded I've been. I've
always had an open mind. And it's funny how everything happens the way it
does, because you know, I've never once believe the Big Bang, you
know, even before I ever thought about flat Earth, you know, talking
in middle school, high school. It's just like, I don't know,
it just doesn't it doesn't sit right with me because I can look around outside,
you know, and it's just this is too perfect of it is of
a design to be coincidental, all right, you know what I mean.
Absolutely, this didn't just big bang from nothing. So you know, I've
always had an open mind about that. And I've always been skeptical, and
I wouldn't say I always asked the questions that I do now, but you
know, I was pretty up minded. But I would say it was probably
in twenty twenty, maybe twenty twenty one, so you know around what time
that is. Yeah, and I had a little extra time on my hand,
and I was just I was getting bored, you know, and I
was I was fed up with COVID, and yeah, I just started doing
it looking at YouTube but stuff, you know, and come across this video
and actually it was it was Mark Sargeant's videos, um the Flat Earth Clues.
And you know, I didn't I'm so open minded that I didn't really
do like what most people do. They'll go and try to debunk it.
I was more or less just like, m well, let's see what you
know they got to say about it. And then it's just every video and
every video you just think, you're like, hold the crop. I mean,
you know, it's very possible, you know. So I watched all
of his clues and then I would listen to his m his interviews, just
because you know. And then that's when I learned about David Weiss, and
I started watching his videos and than Eric do Bay, you know, all
the big, big guys, and then it just started making more sense.
And you know, David Wise, he does. He does a pretty good
way. It's pretty convincing, you know. So, yeah, he is
able to He is one of the best as far as he loves going in
to challenge people who were like full blown globers. I guess you would call
him and he well, listen, he does it full time. I mean
I think five or six days a week and sometimes twice a day. He
takes it very seriously. And I guess the story goes he was actually in
the solar business and the solar electricity business, and then he sold out of
there and then got into you know, the flat earth thing. But people
should know that he wasn't some guy who just and there are a lot of
people out there who make it seem like he just appeared out of nowhere.
He was in the truth community for many, many, many many years.
I remember seeing a video of him and some other guy. I think it
was Caravan After Midnight, which is another big mainstream kind of truther podcast,
and he really broke down the Boston Marathon. And this was like twenty sixteen,
twenty seventeen. So he wasn't the truth community well before the flat Earth,
but he really I think his story it really resonates. He went when
people were trying to tell him about flat earth, He's like, stop,
you know, stop sending me the stuff. And then he finally went in
to debunk it. And then when like many of our own stories, you
can't debunk it, and then he became very passionate about it. Yeah,
you can tell you definitely very passionate. Yeah, it's a great app too.
Oh. Yes, I actually had hawloaded it not long after I started
watching David and I've had it ever since. I've actually got my mom to
downloaded two nice. Yeah. I've gifted it to a few people just like,
hey, check that out and then walk, you know, like the
whole breadcrum thing. Check that out, and they either do or they don't.
Yeah, I mean for a lot of people that it's just so like,
you know, I don't have a lot of people to talk about it
with neither. That's why I started the podcast, because I'm like, hey,
at least I can tell whoever will listen, you know what I mean,
absolutely not not even expecting much, you know, at least I'm putting
my opinion out there. And you know, like you said earlier, it's
the learning process and I'm learning along the way. So it's it's kind of
and it's cool to come on and see how you do things because that's how
I can learn also, you know, but I lost my train of thought
about sugar. I was going with all that up. You were just going
with your your waking up, and then David Weiss and Eric to Bay and
everybody else. Yeah, so um, and then it was I would saying
about I would say I kind of left it alone for a little while,
which is kind of unusual for people. Um, I kind of just left
it alone because I was like, you know, yeah, that's flat,
that's cool, But what can I do about it? You know what I
mean? Were you up the mindset kind of like how does it really affect
my life? So I'm just going to move on? Absolutely not because I
knew how well. I wouldn't. Maybe it's possible I wouldn't say I was
definitely in that mindset, but I wasn't in the mindset of that I am
now right right sure. That was right after I just learned and come to
a realization that, yeah, that Dart is definitely flat. And then,
like I said, I kind of left it alone for a little while because
I was moving back to my hometown going to a breakup. It was kind
of like a whole ordeal for a little while. You know, I was
moving from Savannah to George Auto way back to my home home, which is
not far from Athens, so you know it's good three or four hours.
But yeah, um, anyways, after I got a new job and I'm
messing new people here back home, I started getting it against the podcast listening
to podcast. I never really listened to podcast before. I didn't have a
interest in it. But then I was able to go on in there on
Spotify and type in a search bar flat Earth. Then I could just have
hours of converse or listening, and that became my thing. At work.
I always have my headphones every single day, always listening to stuff about flat
earth, because you know, I wanted to hear everybody's opinion. And and
then it I was able to really start getting into it. And that's when
you know, I would find other podcasts where they're not a flat earth podcast,
but they'll bring somebody on this flat Earth. But then it's like,
I don't know if you heard of cults of conspiracy. Yes, I love
them. I love them guys. They're pretty cool. But so I listened
to them, and then that's when I started to realize all this other stuff
that's going on. So I was like, okay, wow, you know,
like learning that they're poisoning our waters, our foods and and the air,
and theyplied about everything. It gets overwhelming, and it's like, man,
so it's been a lot, and it's it's like I don't believe that
humans were put here to do stuff like this. And it's like everybody's like,
yeah, but what can I do about it? I just got to
do it. No, you don't. We can. We can find a
way, or at least that's what ask my mind said. It's like I
do not want to have to do this, you know what I mean.
I want to grow my own food. I want to build my own things
with my own two hands, you know, basically back into stone ages,
you know what I mean. I mean, they survived just fine, but
it's just it's it's it's too big now and it's too far gone. It's
everybody thinks we're crazy. Yeah, and you know, you make a lot
of great points. There's so many people out there that just kind of shrug
and they say it is what they it is what it is, and then
they move on and um, but I will tell you even then, we'll
call them, you know, the normalist of Normi's out there. They can
they know something's wrong. Right, Even the people who were concerned about their
fantasy football and their sports more than they are maybe politics or religion, they
understand. They can tell because this filth has even leaked into into pop culture,
right, and it's it's kind of ruined everything. And I think folks
are kind of look at that. The problem is folks are looking to other
people to save them instead of taking their lives in their own hands. And
I think flat earth is one of those things that to me at least was
very freeing. Right. It's God gave us this earth, right, George
W. Bush didn't give me my land. Bill Clinton, Barack Obama,
Donald Trump, Congress, they didn't give me this land. God created this
for us, and he told us to go forth and multiple apply. And
you know, we came over here and we had a revolutionary war because of
taxes, and you know, we had a lot of hiccups. Obviously eighteen
twelve, you know, we had I would say things were peachee keen in
this country for about twenty years. That was it, and then the bank
charter ran out, we had another war, and then the federal government continued
to grow and grow and grow, and that led to the Tyranny of Lincoln,
so on and so forth. But to me, flat earth was something
that really Number one, It brought me closer to God because I understood the
words of Genesis had It gave new meaning to the Book of Genesis to me,
And when he talks about separating the waters and the firmament, It's like,
wow, this stuff actually happened. And you know, the earth is
only about you know, six thousand and some years old, not fifty four
or forty five billion, I forget whatever the number is. And like you
said, it was no big bang. There was no evolution. We were
created and put here specifically. Yeah. Absolutely. And after you know,
learning about the flat earth and stuff, you can you can just walk outside
and you instantly feel it and know it, you know what I mean.
You can see things a lot better, and you know, look up at
the sun and the moon and you can just feel it right there. Yeah,
And the little things like if if the sun were really ninety three million
miles away with living in Denver, Colorado, really make that much of a
difference. Why do I lived in Colorado when we got sunburnt much quicker than
we did here? And are you telling me because of a couple of thousand
feet in the stretch of ninety three million miles really makes a difference. I
don't think so. I think David's argument because he says, you know,
we're tilted closer in the winter apparently, and it's like apparently three million miles
of a closeness and it's like it's colder still though. It's like, it
makes no sense as all backwards. Yeah, And if the Moon were truly
a reflection of the Sun, the moon's temperature or the light, I should
say, the moon's light should be warmer. But you can take a thermometer
in the moon's light, take the temperature, and then take it in the
shadows. The moon's light is colder than outside of the moon's light, And
once again, it just doesn't make any sense. Yeah. And actually,
when I learned that about the moon, I was it blew my mind and
I was like, wait a second, what and back to the sun real
quick. I mean, just some of my everyday observations. So if the
Sun was so far away, I don't feel like sunsets would be possible,
you know what I mean, how the clouds can be different colors. I
mean if the sun is small, if its sun was not small and local,
then you shouldn't have any pretty orange sunsets over here. But then you
know, over there behind you, it's just clouds that normal colors, you
know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely, and that makes sense. Yeah,
it's just my observation. No, And I'm so glad you brought that
up because I've been meaning to say this for many episodes. You know,
if let me ask you this, if the Sun was really ninety three million
miles away, when these guys go out into space, why is it always
dark? Aren't they supposed to be getting closer to the sun. Yeah,
but it's always dark. That makes no sense. When they were on the
moon the whole time it was dark, they were closer to the moon or
the Sun. As the higher you go, the closer you should be to
the Sun. Why isn't outer space just lit up so bright? If it's
ninety three million miles away. Yeah, yeah, you shouldn't be able to
see nine stars ever, it should just be a blinding light actually, just
like it is and the original moon landing. Yeah, exactly. You know
that that gets me every time too, when you say we should have a
memorial for that guy who left on the moon, because that's one of the
first questions. I mean, if you're really thinking and looking at it's like,
wait a second, what did they do? How does guy get there?
Did they did they drop him off and take back off and and so
he could video them coming down, or did they do the same thing when
they left, like and the little sparks that flat on that thing when it
takes off it is. You know, I wonder if they even thought at
the time that the technology would get so advanced that they would look back one
day and say this is absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, I mean I think so.
I think so. But I mean I have noticed they're coming out with
a lot more space space movies and TV shows, and actually, you know,
I don't watch a lot of stuff. I mean I used to obviously
before I started learning all this stuff, but you know, I watched a
lot of space stuff now just because I'm like, yeah, let's see how
how how easy it is to fake it, you know what I mean.
And there's the show called for All Mankind. It's on Apple Apple TV,
and it's it's actually pretty interesting and it's got some actual like facts in it.
And what what it is is it's back to the space race. And
they start in nineteen you know, the first moon landings, how they was
trying to be Russia. But in the series, Russia beat us to the
moon. But you know, in the series they go from the Moon and
then in the Mars and it's crazy, but it's it looks legit, you
know, it looks just like space would be. But there's this It was
in the first season. This really tripped me out. And it's like third
episode because they was on the Moon and every time they've been on the moon
there've been no stars. But at the end of like third episode, there
pain and off the moon and looking at from the moon and into space,
and all of a sudden, the stars click on. It was super weird.
And then ever since then you see stars every time, but the first
two episodes there's no stars in the sky when they're in space. Oh you
can't make this stuff up, can you? No? But that was just
like, so I like watching this stuff because it's like they put it in
your face right there. It's like yeah. But then you think back to
the interview with the astronauts after they got back, and it's I don't remember
seeing any stars. Yeah, it's funny. There was tripping over his word.
Yeah, they were. They weren't exactly arguing, but they're like,
I don't remember the script. Are you sure? I don't remember? And
it's just a shoke down. If you went to the moon, if you
were, can you imagine being the first man to do anything in this world,
especially something that great, and then to have those kinds of conflicts and
have them the morale that low, just it's nothing but Freemason garbage. Yeah,
I would have been I would have been a static. I would have
been in there screaming the Emily. Yeah, I'd be doing every commercial.
I'd have my like like like Larry said, I'd have my heir George's and
I would have the commercials and my Gatorade and everything out. These guys just
disappeared, and you know, uh, Neil Armstrong just drank himself to death.
Poor yeah, I know, it's probably not his fault, you know
what I mean, Yeah, that's the question. I That's why I try
not to be too hard because I don't know at what point were they told,
like you're, hey, guys, were you're really not going to the
moon. And by the way, if you tell anybody, we're going to
kill your entire family, because like literally they killed everybody in the Apollo one
plus the investigator who called him out, and they killed him and his entire
family as well. So these people knew that they were playing with guys who
had no problem pulling a trigger. Yes, terror, well, and that's
and that's why it's Yeah, it's terrible. But you know, imagine how
he felt, you know what I mean? You know, imagine how all
the nationalauts felt. Yeah, and there's a at least two of the three,
there was a point where they kind of both buckled. Um Neil Armstrong
given that speech in ninety four, ninety four, I guess it was the
twenty fifth anniversary, and he kind of you could tell he really wanted to
say something, and then buzz Aldrin when he was getting interviewed by the young
girl. You know, that's not how would happened, and you can tell
that they just want can you imagine the burden? Yeah? Man, you
know that's kind of like a big thing for me too. I think it
was von Braun, which, by the way, they have a character for
him, and that, uh, that TV series I was talking about.
It's pretty interesting, I said, but just to know that it's how it's
it's fake obviously, but us just like because I didn't think that he was.
He can't really see much of him being very religious when he was younger,
you know what I mean. But as he got older and more into
science and obviously come over here to the US, he become more religious.
And there's there's this video I've seen where he's talking about nothing can disappear.
He said that science proves it or something. He's talking about God. I
was like, oh, yeah know. And then you know he's the head
of the Space, head of NASA, Father of NASA supposedly, and he
you know, designed all these rockets so he can go to the Moon.
I just think it's so crazy. We haven't been back yet, and that
for me is just the biggest red flag I guess. Like, and it's
funny because it's this TV series like keep referring to h I'm sorry, but
it progresses like you would expect it to, you know what i mean.
First they went to the moon and they put a base on the moon,
and then there's eventually they have a hotel in the sky. I'm telling you
this is how it should have been if we really went to the moon and
that technology, because like you said, we went to the technology. We
went to the moon with the technology. Put a Nintendo sixty four, not
even like an Attard twenty six hundred. Yeah, I see us a little
bit before my time though. It's sorry showing my age, and that was
called for all mankind, right, Yes, it's it's pretty cool to watch,
I mean because space has always been interesting to me, you know,
I mean, I know it's fake, but it's just like watching a thing
for the movie now, I mean, you know it's fake. Well,
and that's part of the Hollywood programming because when I was, you know,
eight or nine years old, that's when the original Star Wars hit the theaters
and every you know, get my age was lining up at the movie theaters
to watch this. And as a young child, that's what you do your
daydream and after seeing that movie, you know, we're all picturing being an
X wing fighter and flying through space, and that's more of the reinforcement that
they do to fight off things like the flatter theory, because it goes against
everything we've been taught, It goes everything against that we've watched on television in
the movies. Yeah, and you know, I don't think it's that it's
that old. I think it's early mid maybe even a late eighteen hundreds when
they switched the narratives. What do you think? Well, again, you
know, it started for sure with Copernicus, you know, with the Jesuits
in the sixteenth century. But when did it really take hold here in the
United States and get launched into our history books. It might even be later
than that, because if you recall, I've heard several people and there was
the lady that David Weiss interviewed. She was what one hundred and two or
something, and she said that she was taught about the flat Earth when she
was growing up as well. So, and there's so many other things we
know in our history books that are complete lies. So you know, the
question, I guess can we find some? You know, one of these
days I just want to go in eBay and see if I can find some
nineteenth century history books and just to order them and see what they say.
See how different the narrative is back then than it is today, you know.
And I think it could be the simplest check in your local libraries.
Yeah, absolutely, we might be surprised. And it's something that I keep.
It's been on my mind, it crosses it all the time. It's
just a stal library. And see what, like I want to see the
oldest book you got, Okay, let me see the oldest like history whatever,
you know, Bible even Yeah, and you can even if they still
have them. They keep all the historical newspapers, like you can go back
and you know, I had an account where I could see my newspaper here
in Delaware. We can see the newspapers back to eighteen I think the early
eighteen nineties. Oh wow. So have you ever heard of the eighty year
reset history period or whatever? So is this like, um like Staria in
the World's Fair, or is this different? Um? It could be Tartaria,
whether it's supposedly you know, every eighty years history resets or something,
or you know, a great reset. And apparently the Tartarian was the last
one, and it's like, you know, late eighteen hundreds. From what
I've seen, I could have my dates Trump, So don't quote me.
No, that's that's cool. When you say reset, are you talking about
complete? Like how did they do it? Because this is um I have
no idea what I'm getting at it. I've learned this from. Actually it
was somebody you had on your podcast and she talked about the that documentary,
The Lost History of Flat Earths. Oh yeah, sure, yeah, that
I think he was showing photos of like, you know, big cities and
like the eighteen hundreds where nobody was there, and then just a few and
you know there's all these big old buildings, but nobody's in these towns,
and then you know a few a few years later, all of a sudden
you got people and horse and buggies and stuff like that. Yeah, and
they're talking about, you know, there's no way that those people could build
those structures. And that kind of leads us to like, like I said,
this is why I got into all this other stuff. It's like,
I believe there's free energy and stuff that we just don't know how to use
it. And I believe that our our bodies are can be super powerful if
we just get our vibrations and our frequencies, right, I mean frequencies and
vibrations I think is everything? Yeah, and that and that's that's what these
they say, what these smart cities yep, and these smart meters on your
home, it's supposed to interfere with all of that. It's like there's so
much stuff that they do, the interfere with everything to keep your vibration low.
You know, your pineal gland closed, your third eye, and it's
like, I really want to get into everything like that, you know what
I mean. But it's so hard when you have to work nine to five.
You have to have two incomes to live in a decent house these days,
and it's hard. Right now, I'm trying to figure out other ways
of incomes. But it's it's hard. It is. And you know,
I was on Veterans Today Radio and we had that exact same discussion. Is
you know, especially hyper inflation and everything else. I mean, you work
forty fifty sixty hours a week and you know, after working ten hours,
drive home, you have your dinner, you know, you sit down and
you just want to relax for a few minutes and it's you know, you
got to get back in the rack and wake up and you do it all
over again. So that that's one of the reasons why they keep everyone so
busy, is they don't keep their eyes on the prize and they don't sit
down and have these type of conversations to whereas the our tension goes from you
know, money and sports and entertainment to the people in charge who are absolutely
pillaging our lives every single day. Yeah, and there's there's so many theories
about who you know what I mean, like who's the controllers? Yeah,
yeah, sure, I think Bill Cooper said it perfectly. I think at
the end of the day, they're Luciferians. I mean, we can use
the terms here on Earth, whether Jews, Jesuits, Illuminati, the Vatican,
but at the end of the day, all these people are Luciferians.
I think he hit it on the head. You know nothing. I can
agree with that too. And that reminds me of a movie that I'd like
to see called Nefarius that you heard of it. I'm not sure it rings
a bell. I've seen it on TikTok and it was the producers or directors
or whatever, and there was two older guys and they was talking about the
making up the movie Uparius and just come out this year, so it's relatively
new. But they had some interesting things happened while they were shooting the video.
And it's supposedly I mean, it's about this this guy who was sentenced
to death. He was on death row. But apparently if they're mentally ill
or something, they can't they have to be evaluated or something. But this
guy ended up being possessed with the demon. And I don't know all the
details. I don't want to give too much away, but the producers were
talking about how when they're shooting certain scenes that like all these crazy things would
happen. I think they even said there was several car crashes of some of
the actors coming in, you know, to get ready to shoot. I
mean, nobody got hurt, but there was like just some crazy, weird
stuff going on while they was making the movie. And they said that they
had made it they wanted to attract the younger people so they could see like
the Devil's real, you know what I mean. And it makes a lot
of sense to devil is, I think, is the whole reason for everything
being the way it is. You know, this is interesting. Apparently,
I'm just kind of reading up on it online while you were talking. It
was actually based on Steve Deecee's twenty sixteen novel called a Nefarious Plot, So
if you prefer the books over the movie, that's the name of the book
it was based off of. Secondly, I've never heard of Christian horror movies.
I didn't even know that was a genre. According to this, it's
a twenty twenty three Christian independent horror film, and yeah, it says.
It stars Jordan Belfie as a psychiatrist who has to determine if a death row
inmate is faking his demonic possession. Yep. But I mean maybe I'll send
you the if I can find it. I'm normally saved because I get a
lot of information from TikTok too, and TikTok is what I would say,
help me really wake up because they sent her YouTube so much. You know,
my fiance, she had TikTok probably for a year before I downloaded.
I was like, I don't want to I don't need that stuff because I
saw my is so it was Tony using this that and everybody our lady was
on their lot. She's always laughing and stuff. And I get on there
and then I'll walk in tuck a spiracy and that's all I see. But
I saved these videos, and I watching that video of the producers. Maybe
you can even find it on YouTube. I don't know, but they was
talking about it and it was it was, it was pretty Maybe you want
to go watch it. That's interesting. And I'm glad you brought that up,
because you know, our government is saying how dangerous TikTok is. And
I know a lot of truthers who make a lot of great videos on TikTok,
and I've never seen anybody had their stuff taken off TikTok. And I've
been hacked on Facebook many times. I've never had any issues with it.
I mean, I don't go on TikTok very much, but I had.
I've had a couple of guests over my years who are based on there,
so I'll go on there every now and then. And You're right, there's
a lot of tremendous truth videos out there on TikTok. Yeah. I don't
know if it's just the algorithm thing, but I know that that's why the
US doesn't want it in here because they can't control it, like they can't
everything else, right, and they always playing sorry, go ahead, buddy.
I think that's the reason why there's so much information on TikTok. Yeah,
you hit that nail on the head, because they can't control It's precisely
why they always play the Russia car. They always play the China, Russia,
China, when ninety percent of the time it's arms, CIA or FBI
doing these things. It's exactly with why they want to get rid of it.
And there's several states who have already passed laws to where, you know,
state employees aren't allowed to access it on their government phones. I'm not
sure they've had much more success, but I think you're right on the right
on the head. They can't control it. Yeah, but I did think
a state probably it could have been fake, but I heard that one state
in the US did ban TikTok already. They may have, but I'm better
people they was trying to create a bill for it, wasn't it. For
sure? They are trying. The federal government is trying to actively ban TikTok.
They've came close a few times. Yeah, And to me, that's
just a red flag, like they just deem it in misinformation. Yeah,
it's because, like you said, they can't control it. So God forbid,
if we actually have conversations and have freedom of speech, how terrible would
that be? Yeah, that's great. I'm gonna have to check out for
all mankind. I think Verizon, I think they gave me like a ninety
day free Apple trial. I have to check that out. And then the
movie Nefarious, which just came out this year. Interesting Christian independent horror film.
I didn't know if there was a such thing as a Christian horror film.
That's interesting. I have to check it out. Um, this is
the first I'm hearing about that too. I didn't know there's that category or
a genre. Yeah, I guess. The name of this company is Believe
Entertainment. Believe Entertainment, and they're a Christian movie company. And I'm I
guess because it deals with demonic things, that's kind of why it falls into
that category. Yeah, that's interesting. I wanted to back pedal to the
Flat Earth again. When you were going through, whether it was David Weiss
or whatever videos or articles you were consuming, was there Do you remember where
you were when it finally hits you that you know, I think we've been
lied to and how did that change your thought? And because for a lot
of people it's pretty emotional, it was for me so kind of like I
said, when I first learned about it, that when I kind of left
it away for a little while, it didn't really affect me that much.
But it was when you know, I moved back home and I started working
and listening to podcast That's when it really started affecting me. And you know,
I went through phases. At first, it was, yeah, this
is awesome, you know, it's great. But then you know, as
I started learning more stuff like the water's poison, everything's poison, the air
sports, I mean, it's like, what what can I do? You
know, And that's when I started to really feel the negative side of it,
to where it was like as soon as I wake up in the morning
to the alarm clock, it's like, this is I shouldn't have to do
this, you know, it's just and then yeah, you go down a
long road of this just freaking sucks, you know what I mean. And
so I mean it really didn't really but and you know, my old lady,
my fiance, she she's into a lot of stuff. She doesn't believe
a lot of things, but she doesn't really want to look at the flat
earth. And it's understandable because she's she stresses. She's one of the stresses
about, you know, everything, and it's it's not her fault. She
can't help it. But she she just said, Robert, I can't stress
about something else, and I understand. So I don't, you know,
push it on her anything. But she supports me on her percent, but
she um, I lost my train of thought again. Has she, like,
has she looked at it or is it just she she's got enough things
on her plate and she's afraid that's going to just be another thing for her
to deal with mentally, Yeah, she hasn't really looked at it. But
she's heard all my talking points. She's been right there when I when I'm
you know, explaining it to somebody or whatever. And and I mean I
have I brought it up pretty much follow my family members, and it's not
all at once. And it's actually funny. I just brought it up to
my grandma yesterday. I told her about my podcast for the first time,
and she was asking me some questions. I was, you know, telling
her some answers, So that was pretty cool. But my mom, so
I had mentioned it to her before when I kind of I mentioned it to
her, but then she kind of just like whatever and lets it alone for
a litt wall And I had to say, I'm really proud of her long
because she used to she was a heavy drinker. And I don't know what
it was. But one day, I guess she come across the flatter video
on TikTok and she went and opened her Bible and then she called me it
sair Robert, You're a one hundred percent right, So is it right here
in the Bible? She said, How did I might see it? She
said, Robert, they're this flat. I said, yes, ma'am,
only I know, Oh wow, I know. And she's she reached the
Bible every morning. And uh, last time I've seen her because she lives
a couple hours away. But last time I seen her, she was on
the phone. She got fig say who's that moment? She said, um,
something about some classes for Bible. She said, I want to become
a Bible Express. So okay, mamma. She saidn't listen to the Book
of Enoch because I was telling her about that I was like, you know,
they believed books that of the Bible, and this apparently one that the
everybody likes, the Book of Enoch I see all the time. And she's
didn't listen to the audio books of the Book of Enock. So she's just
like on it with the Bible. And she said that it's helped her too.
That's why I say'm proud of her, because she started talking to God
a lot more and she asked God, it's take the taste of liquor out
of her mouth and she's not taking usib sense. Wow, that's powerful,
brother, that is that's amazing. Shout out to your mom that that is
great. And and once again that's another example. People say, you know,
why is flatterth that? You know, why is it that important?
And that's just one story and I get at least one email every day or
other day that, um, you know, it's different variations of that story.
But when people realize that they've been lied to, and you know,
this was created especially too, especially for us, and again for me that
I read Genesis like I remember, I was living in Dover at the time,
we had just moved back, and I read it like I read it
again for the first time, like it made complete sense. Right. Maybe
back then I read it is maybe it was more of a story than an
actual thing. And then I read you appreciate every single word and it has
a meaning to it in the firmament. It's like, how many times have
I read this and not put two and two together? And it does lead
people to God. So it is very powerful. And I'm so happy that
you took that and you challenged yourself and shared that with your family, and
you you've actually you've changed people's lives. That's amazing. I was lucky,
you know, because I really when you look at it, and just because
you know, it wasn't the smartest about it. You know, I would
go on Facebook when I first learned. Now this is before I moved back
home and stuff, But when I first learned, I'd go on Facebook,
and you know, I starts Facebook for flatter stuff, and I'd get on
there and I'd see the people defending it, and I would comment something,
and then I'd get like five hundred replies to it, just like bashing me
and calling it crazy and stupid. It's just like there's nothing you can say
to these people. At least, you know, they don't give a shit.
Excuse my language, No, that's fine. And I'll tell you even
in the truth community is still very divisive, not as much, I think
over the past few years I have seen people not to be as devisive about
it. There are still a few people out there who, I guess you
know that are like the Caravan and Midnight people who do believe in aliens and
those things, and they don't want to want to even consider flat earth because
that eliminates, not necessarily eliminates. But I think if they really looked at
it, they would understand there's not aliens, maybe demons. Do you remember
last month or a couple of weeks ago, that young young man from Las
Vegas who's been all over TikTok for sure, who said that he reported to
two tall beings in his backyards and he made a TikTok video and it kind
of went viral. Did you see that? Yes? I did, And
I've actually seen a couple of other videos where they was like analyzing it.
I guess you could say, yeah, yeah. And at first even I
was like, look, he's got Simpson shirt and he's got a checkerboard kind
of illuminati. But then I did see another video this past weekend where he
says, listen, I'm I'm a room, I'm a Catholic, I'm a
churchgoer, and he said, I believe after thinking it over, he said,
I think these were demonic beings. That they weren't actually aliens from you
know, another planet. He said, I think these were demonic beings.
So that that was interesting. Yeah, So the whole alien thing, I
believe that even the UFOs we see are all government. Oh for sure,
for sure, because it's back to um. I think it's warrener von Braun.
That's what he said on his death that he said that was gonna be
the final card, was an alien card, and then it was all going
to be a lie. And you know, I believe it wholeheartedly because I've
seen little bits of the technology where they can hologram stuff. And I think
I was watching the video come across a video on Facebook or something, but
it was a football stadium and they had a cheetah or something hologram and it
was jumping around all over the place and it looked so real, I mean,
and it looked so real. So I just and that's what the theory
is is, that's what they're going to do. They use these hooph holographic
projectors or whatever to project an alien invasion. And actually, you know,
obviously the alien invasion isn't going to be able to destroy stuff, shootings or
whatever. But I mean that's where our government comes in, you know what
I mean. Sure, they'll have you know, explosives set in certain cities
and certain areas. They'll be you know, like you said, holographs,
and then they'll be explosions and then you know, lasers and more under attack
because again, the media is you know, ninety six percent of our media
is owned by the same people, so they can control the narrative very easily.
And sadly, once again, I think a large part of the population
we'll seek refuge in the government then realizing that this is just another hoax where
they're going to have an endgame that once again takes even more and more of
our freedoms away. Yeah, and I'm not sure how much time we got
but or how else you wanted to go. You've got time. You've got
another thirty minutes if you'd like, go right ahead. So yeah, that's
kind of like my little theory too, is um the whole alien invasion thing.
But it's a lot. It's a lot to think about. I was
going to go somewhere, but I'm having a hard time. I train.
I've been nervous this whole time. You're doing great, man, You're doing
a fantastic job. Um. But but this is something, like you said,
they have been planning this in the public's mind for a long time,
going back to Ronald Reagan and his infamous speech. You know, only if
there would be a you know, outside entity from another world to attacks,
then we would all join together as a world. At the end of the
day. What they really want is a one world order world government, just
like going back to Nimrod, to control everything. They want a one world
religion, a one world government, and the best way to do that is
through fear and propaganda exactly. And I've actually heard some theories that were possibly
already in a one world government, you know. I've heard that there's a
second Constitution to United States, and that it's like the United States Corporation,
and that Washington, DC is actually like District of Columbia. Have you heard
any of that, Yes, sir, so, I think you're alluding to
the Organic Act of eighteen seventy one where they actually incorporated. The United States
is like a corporation, which could lead to one of the reasons why no
federal government individual has ever been really held accountable. And if you go back
to for those of you who didn't really follow that savings and loan scandal in
the eighties and the five was it, the five senators or congressmen who were
a big part of it. John McCain was one of those five, and
it was a huge deal, and those guys got punished, you know,
so badly that mccannon ended up running for president, you know, fifteen years
later. Again. Yeah, there's a lot to that. And then the
city of London, it is a one square mile area that has its own
mayor and all the banks and London are in that tiny little area where everything
is incorporated, so they have their own rules, their own regulations. It's
it's a mini Switzerland within the city of London. And it's the same with
DC. It's one square mile and basically they have their own rules, their
own regulations. They can't be touched. And whatever chance we had of taking
back our freedoms was pretty much swept out of the door when they rigged the
whole January sixth event. So they let the world know, well everybody in
the country though, if you come down trying to complain, we're gonna you're
behind the jail. And that's what they did with those people. There's still
nine hundred Americans between the ages of like twenty four and at seventy eight that
are still sitting in prison from that joke. Jesus and we had we interviewed
somebody on the fact Hunter podcast. His name is Master Sartin Jeremy Brown,
retired special operations guy. He was literally the poster boy for spec ops back
in the nineties. You know, his face was on the recruiting posters all
around the country. And in November of twenty twenty, the FBI showed up
to his house because he was a guy who understood psychological operations and so on
and so forth, and they tried to recruit him for it, and he
said, I'm not going to be a part of this. Are you crazy?
And he captured the whole thing on his ring camera and he ended up
releasing it after January sixth happened. And what happens. The FBI rolls up
and they go into his he had one of those camper trailers, like you
know, thirty foot camper and they're like, oh, look, we found
these hand grenades in your camper. And they arrested him and throw him in
prison, and they just sentenced him to seven years in jail. I mean,
and this is a guy who you know, spent twenty years serving his
country. So if they can do that to him, think what they can
do to everybody else. And this is a guy you just interviewed, well
I interviewed him. It would have probably been in the fall. I'm actually
playing another message he released to open my podcast tomorrow. He still records.
I think he's in a minimum security but they had him in a max security
place for the first sixteen months or so and they finally moved into minimum so
he can kind of I think he has access to a computer and records these
voice messages and he's like trying to motivate Americans to do something. His big
phrases don't do nothing right because he was a Trump guy, another one of
these guys who supported Trump went down there, never stepped foot, and you
know he was outside the whole time. And because he released that video exposing
the FBI basically proving that January sixth was a setup. They've rolled him up
and threw him in prison for seven years, okoyness. So I mean that's
that's what we're dealing with here, and that's why important now. I'm glad
like you and all the other folks that we've had on before who are podcasters,
are aspiring podcasters. Every voice we get out there to try to shed
the truth is another chance we have to get somebody's attention to wake someone else
up, and we hope that starts a chain of events where they were wake
somebody up. Just look at you. You you were woken up by you
know, David Weiss and all the other great troopers out there, and look
which look how you changed her mother's life. And I'm willing to bet your
mother's going to testify her story to others, and her story may motivate someone
to change their life. So it is really a domino effect. The truth
is very powerful, you know, I agree on it's just getting those But
like you said, if one person wakes one person up and they wake another
person, eventually it adds up a lot. And I mean you could tell
it it must be doing something because you can look on the David Weiss's app
and at the friend finder and see all those blue odds. Isn't it crazy?
It's a lot. It's more than you think, and that's something I
want to get into. Also. I haven't paid for the subscription yet,
but I want to just so you know, because it's getting harder, because
I want to talk about things, you know, with like minded people.
So yeah, that you can do that in his app, Yeah, you
absolutely can. And I think that's the next thing I've been saying I'm going
to do for a long time. And you know, I've been able to
get a lot of stuff done with the websites and a lot of people are
able to chat there and I do call in shows and things of that nature
so people can have their voice heard. And the end game behind that and
bringing listeners on is to encourage people to realize that there are are many many
people out there who think the same way you do. But I think the
real next step is and again I've done it before, and it's again,
if we're going to make real progress, we're going to have to do things
out of our comfort zone. And I think starting not like doing tours around
the country, but starting to do public speakings, even you know, a
book in a hotel and advertising it all over like Twitter and Facebook where you
can advertise local and pass out flyers and just old school get out there,
you know, get people in a room and talk, because face to face
is where it's at and that's where you can really make change. Yeah,
I think I could see how that could work really well, doing it like
old school and stuff. Yeah, have you ever gone to any of like
the platober Fest or No? I have not. When I really started agetting
that stuff, we had already started homesteading, and it's so hard. My
wife and I has been even really taken a vacation since we started with this,
because it's it's really a seven day a week operation. But I think
I think there's one in Vegas this fall. We're working on trying to get
somebody to look over for just the weekend so we can get out there.
But we'll see what happens. I would like to go too, but I
don't know. You know, I've never been even been in a plane.
Oh really, yes, I've never flying. Yeah, it's I haven't.
I said I would never fly again. I was very angry at how they
treated everybody during the scamdemic with the mask and everything else. But obviously for
that one on a short time frame, I would have to fly again.
And from what I've heard, it's it's semi back to normal. But yeah,
it's it's it's an easy flight. Um, it's just a few hours
for you. You'd probably just go to Lanti straight to Las Vegas. I'm
sure they have plenty of flights. Yeah, if I put it far enough
in advance, I could probably get it pretty cheap. But yep, and
it actually might work out because my fiance has family and not far from Las
Vegas. Oh, there you go, two birds with one stone. Yeah,
so I mean we could even ask more to stay. And it's funny
because she wants to get married in Vegas. Oh, there you go,
and you can go to the little Elvis Chapel. Right, we're gonna go
Flat Earth Flat Earth Convention and get married. Oh that's that would be awesome.
What a great weekend that would be, all in the same weekend.
Yeah, and that's a decent time to go because I've been to Vegas several
times and I've gone in August one time and the heat is just dreadful.
I don't want to hear dry heat one hundred ten is one hundred and ten.
Yeah, but it's a lot of fun. There's a lot to do.
We we usually do the shows. I'm not a big gambler, but
we'll watch the shows, and there's a lot of great food out there,
and we do have kind of extended family out there as well, so we
have stopped buying seeing them as well. I've seen Hooever, damn the Grand
Canyon did all the touristy stuff. There was a lot to do out there.
Yeah, so that reminds me. On the planes, I like,
um, sometimes it's just for fun. I'll look at what is it a
plane founder or a flight founder or something. Ye. And it's funny though,
because I'll watch all these flights coming from like Germany or any where.
You're like right there and they're going to the United States and it's just a
curve so far upwards, like going around Iceland or blind then like there's other
flights I'll just go straight across and it's it's like I don't understand why.
And of course you know the Eric Debate what was it Eric Debates book?
But the sixteen it's not Eric Debates book. I forget the gentleman's name.
Um, but yeah, the sixteen emergency landings, right, yeah, yeah.
And another big thing for me for planes is it's just how they explain
everything. So they're sitting here saying, you know, everybody, why can't
we just you know, hover in a helicopter and our destination come to us.
They say that that atmosphere is locked in with Earth's gravity and spin whatever,
But it still doesn't make any sense because if you're going to go against
the spin, I mean, you should be getting places pretty quick, absolutely
absolutely. So that's and they don't have an answer for that. I guess
I don't know. No, And um, a lot of way they answer
us is just with the rolling of the eyes. Right. But at the
same time, when when they act like that, if you really ask them
questions about heliocentrism, of them don't even know the answers. They'll just say
gravity. Um, they won't. You know that they don't know anything about
you know, you know, the vacuum of space being next to Earth.
If they you know, we can see too far. They have no idea
how far the sun is, how far the moon is, the rotation,
the acts, you know, they're on a twenty three point four degree acts
as they don't know any of it, but they'll defend it because their science
teacher told them so. Yeah, and I think it was the same when
I was in school, and that's what I have. Go ahead, I'm
sorry, I'm sorry. Um. I was just gonna say, do you
can you envision a world where everything was good, where we knew the truth
or could at least go see for ourselves. Yeah, isn't that a shame
that, Sophie, we allow. That's one thing we have to remember that
we allow this. And I tried to make that clear today. While Americans
and people around the world are ninety eight percent of them or whatever are genuinely
good people who just want to, you know, take care of their family
and you know, have a few shekels left over to go on a little
vacation. But you're right that the fact that so few people and the number
that most people throw around is about eight thousand, that that really around this
world kind of control everything and in the space of you know, seven or
eight billion people, that is you know, we're talking zero point zero zero
zero zero zero one percent who control everything and make our lives miserable. It
is a shame and what a wonderful world it would be. And that's at
the same time, I will tell you, Robert that I'm not sure that
there's a lot of people out there who could really handle true freedom, because
I mean, if you want to talk about no taxes and then does that
mean all the government assistance programs go away? Can people really handle burn,
you know, handling their own load? Do you know where I'm getting at.
Yeah, And you know, if it ever came down to it,
it would take a lot a long time. You know, it would take
generations dying and new generations coming. You know, you have to start from
scratch, basically, and it would be hard to every some you know,
the older generations probably wouldn't be on board or anything and or wouldn't be able
to you know what I mean. I would say yes and no, I'm
not going to delve deep into this subject on this podcast, but I will
tell you that in Germany and the late twenties and early thirties, where it
was in a place of very, very financial distress, and when they came
up with their new system, within a matter of five years, the unemployment
went from fifty percent to about one point seven percent, So it can be
done. The thing is you have to have the will to make it done.
It takes a sacrifice, and it really it takes everybody pitching in for
the good and getting those parasites caught in the system to get us back to
where we are today. And that is the problem. Is I think that
the federal government has gotten so far and so out of control. Like I
don't think back in the late eighteenth century, you know, when the Declaration
was getting signed and we were walking away from from England, that it was
never meant to be this big it should. It was just supposed to be
a very small thing where where men walked away from the public life or i'm
sorry, from the private sector to the public sector to serve for a few
years and to really handle any disputes between the states. That's really all the
federal government was about. There was no taxes back then. We walked away
from the from England because of taxes. It wasn't until you know, December
twenty fourth, nineteen thirteen, when the Federal Reserve snuck in and and once
again we became the parasites took back over and taxes started creeping in property taxes.
You know, the wars put us in a lot of debt. But
yeah, I've never heard a Democrat or Republican run on saying I'm going to
abolish the Federal Reserve, the IRS and you know the CIA. You know,
Kennedy tried. He mentioned the CIA, and you saw what happened with
him. So it's going to take I do think it's going to take like
an outside entity, not within those two the Democrats or Republicans because they're controlled.
It's going to take an organic movement that doesn't get hijacked in order to
fix where we are today. What are your thoughts on that? That's why
I thought I'd dream about It's like every day just thinking of ways that we
could achieve something like that, you know, And um, you know,
I have my own thoughts and ideas. But like you said, it would
and maybe it wouldn't be as hard as like you said, it could happen
pretty quick, I guess, Um, like you said, the Germany thing,
But it just takes the right people, the motivation and like you know,
doing it for the right reasons, you know what I mean? Yeah,
absolutely, And once again you have you know, you have to do
all the things that politicians promise but never carry out. Right, term limits,
end of game. You know, two terms and you're done. You're
gone, You're back, You're you're back into the public life. You're you're
not. You know, these people who are in government for you know,
fifty sixty years making a career out of it is not that. That is
not how the system was originally built to be. And unfortunately, like everything
else, the people who get in charge get power and listen when when man
gets our you know, for everyone who does good, there's probably two or
three who are corrupted and are more concerned with how can I benefit from my
position instead of how can I, you know, make life better for the
people I represent? Yeah, I agree with you. And you know,
I think that's I mean, people are waking up, you can see it.
Yeah, And I think the government scared about it, or the controllers,
And I think that's what this whole COVID thing was is maybe not necessarily
the depopulation agenda, but a test run, you know what I mean.
Oh yeah, listen, COVID was a test run that it's it's going to
get worse than that. Yeah, I'm hearing as early as twenty twenty five.
Yeah, that's the word they used, was spars. I guess that's
supposed to be the next That was the next one. But now that it's
out, they'll obviously change and it'll be something else. But one thing to
remember next year is an election cycle. So I don't think it's out of
the realm of possibility that it it happens within the next Where are we at
now, sixteen months or so? Yeah, yeah, you got a point
there, because it did. That's when COVID come around, was around the
last election. Yeah. And again it's not who cast the votes, it's
who counts the votes and when. When they have everybody hiding in their house
from COVID, it makes it that much easier to manipulate an election, right,
Yeah. And it's sometimes I think it doesn't even matter. It doesn't
matter. You know, I've heard the term presidents are selected, not elected.
Yeah, exactly right, correct, Yeah, yep. And that's what
most people say is well, you just go out and vote. I mean,
I haven't I don't think I've ever voted. I mean, and like,
like I was just I don't know if it would matter. And that's
what you know, they say, It's like oh, well, you think
one person doesn't matter what it does. But I mean, clearly they great
to last election. It's like it doesn't matter that. But you know,
and this is where my thought process goes, like, I don't know what
to think, like with Trump, because yes, he just false hope,
a controlled opposition person to you know, falsify make us think that we have
But you know, then they say that, you know, the economy was
the best that ever was when he was in office, and it's like,
I don't know what to think. I think they knew that the folks on
the left would embrace Fauci and that agenda, but I think that they thought
that the people in the right would be more willing to roll up their sleeve
and take that if Trump told them to do so, and I think they
came up well short on that. The thing that still kind of blows my
mind is that they still are on his team. As anti vex as these
people were, they just kind of assuw it like it was no big deal.
It was a very big deal. And he didn't drain the swamp and
he didn't arrest Hillary. And again, you just don't get to that point
without being put there and I think his name was Dean. He just sent
me an email in the last day or two and he had mentioned about the
William Shakespeare line All the World's a stage, and that's exactly what it is.
All the world is a stage. The actors are are are hand chosen
and putting these places. Sometimes they have their rituals they have to do,
like Kanye had his little humiliation ritual, Tom Hanks had his little humiliation ritual.
And if they don't play the game, like what was her name?
The comedian who came out and said that what Michelle Obama was a transgender and
boom, she was dead a week later, right, So you have to
stay in line. Yeah, And I think it it goes back to paper
and contracts. You know, all of these artists have to sign a contract,
right, you know they get you know, signed on or contracted or
whatever. And I think that you know between the lines and says, hey,
you gotta do what we say or you know that's how because you know
I will Um. I interviewed Sean Hitler on my podcast. Yeah, he's
my first interview. I was actually super nervous and excited at the same time
because um, you know, he had just released his uh level with Me
documentaries. Yeah, and we got to talking about something similar. And it's
because it's like, you know, you don't really hear of like our big
flat Earth idols ever getting off and just like, well why if they don't,
you know, they just off anybody they want to. And we think
it goes back to you're being in a contract. It's like they have to
you know, give some instances of the truth or whatever it's, you know,
so they can't know flat Earth or as ever, or at least not
the big guys you know, David Wise, Eric Debate, whatever, have
actually you know, contracted anything signed anywhere basically saying you know, you're not
allowed to say anything. So that's what happens to these actors, in my
opinion, is you know, they're going out of the way saying so they're
not supposed to, and that's why they get sick or die and things like
that. And I'll take you one step even deeper. For the people who
want to step up on the world stage, in many cases, it takes
a family member to be sacrificed. And I can show you so many famous
people who had a loved one or someone very close close to them pass away
under nefarious circumstances right before or as they were getting famous, that these rituals
are real in there for the normal, you know, Guy and Gal,
like ourselves, who again, like we said, just want to live our
life without being bothered. It's a bitter pill to swallow, and it's hard
for us to believe that that level of evil actually exists on earth. It's
hurtful, and you know, when you start getting into the child trafficking stuff,
and again, kind of shame on me for not covering it more because
you know, to me, it's just one of those things that I get
very emotionally upset about and I think those people should just be dropped into a
volcano. But it happens, It really happens. And there's so many stories
about CPS within the States that I've just been corrupted. And going back to
what you said earlier about signing contracts. Have you ever heard the clip about
Bob Dylan selling his soul to the devil? Is that why he painted so
good? Bob Dylan? Yeah? Yeah, have you ever heard that?
Yeah? Yeah, we're thinking I'm the same person the painter, right,
No, no, no, Bob Dylan, He's a very famous musician from
the sixties and seventies. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm thinking of Ross.
Oh, the guy with the perm Yeah, I got backwards. But yes,
Bob Dylan, Sorry, yeah, Bob Dylan. On sixty minutes,
he admitted he sold his soul to the devil. Have you heard that one?
Yes, I did listen to that one. Yeahcredibly called him the big
chief here, you know, the guy who rules the earth. So,
um, it's been acknowledged. Yeah, and I think I've heard somewhere that
it says. Because I mean, I haven't read the Bible myself, and
I have my reasons. I'm not saying that I don't believe it, but
um, I've seen somewhere where you know, the Devil is the ruler of
Earth, which is why you know all these things can happen, because you
know, maybe earth is our trial to get into Heaven, you know what
I mean. Yeah, And I mean, look, he tempted Jesus for
forty days. And if he can do that too, you know, the
one person who never send imagine what he can do to us on a daily
basis, Like say, can't put he can't physically put a gun in our
hand and make us shoot somebody, but they can. He contempt us with
alcohol, He contempt us with so many things, and we lead into our
own self destruction. It's the way he's If you go to bible dot com
and you just put the word deceit or deceived in the search box, you
will be shocked at how much deceit goes on in our world. And that's
why it's important that you know, folks like you and I and everybody else
who do these podcasts try to wake up as many people as we can,
because this is real. There's you know, this evil exists at the very
top of not just our government, but gone back. I kind of I
skipped over when you mentioned that earlier, my bad, you had mentioned that
maybe, just maybe there's already a one world government in place. I will
tell you it shouldn't seem like the entire world was unlock set with COVID,
would you agree? Yes? And that's like these distraction methods, you know,
with the Chinese fabling, which we all know was in satellite, and
I think during that time the Russians were supposedly on our shores close here and
there, and had their fleets everywhere. You know, I think that's just
a big distraction of what's really going on. And that's also like with the
stuff going on in h New York. I don't know if it's still all
hazy from the fires and stuff. But that was from Canada, you know.
I mean, that's completely different country, but it was set there,
and I think they knew it was going to affect places like New York.
You know, I don't know. And then I've been seeing these videos of
something close to the sun, so I don't know. Sorry, I kind
of went off on a little no. No, that's that's fine. I
do think they have these things on calendars, you know, for that reason.
You know, this week is going to be this distraction. Next week
is going to be the child. And they mock us. They probably sit
there and laugh, whether it's the Council on Foreign Relations or the Good Club
or you know, um, the World Economic Forum, when they the controllers
and when they have these meetings, they mock us. They laugh, you
know, the things they say. They're like, we're gonna put this balloon
and we're going to show them exactly what a satellite is, and we're gonna
call it and we're just going to mock them. And they're not going to
know any different, and they're going to go back to watch their baseball,
they're gonna work overtime that they're just not going to care. They can really
at this point, they throw it in our face and we still just continue
on. Yeah, and it leads me to some other theories, like the
simulation theory. You know what if a lot of these people that don't care
or want to care, or just NPCs, you know, their programmed like
that, So that's why they don't they don't wake up and stuff. I
don't know. Yeah, I always I'm just gonna interact with this person I'd
never interact with and see if it's an NPC. There was somebody told me
to watch The Free Guy because the last cent or fifteen minutes had some flat
earth things to it, and it ended up that movie being ended up being
about non player characters. I'm like, what are they really trying to tell
us here? Are they telling us that there's land beyond the ends? Or
are they telling us that they're non player characters? What's really going on?
Because I do think there is a message in everything in Hollywood. It's that
it's their way of telling us. But it's also a way of invoking a
certain emotion and getting us prepared for the next whatever is about to happen,
right right, And I think that's the that's the difference of watching movies before
and now, Like once you're awake, the movie affect you differently because it's,
like you said, you can look and see what's coming, because it's
something you bring up all the time. For the COVID thing. Is that
movie? What is it? Compatient? Yeah, And you know, I
remember watching that movie before I was awake, and it was I thought it
was a good movie. It's scary, you know, it's like, wow,
this could really happen. Yeah, I don't yep, And sure enough,
and those scenes are put in place cleverly, the cocktail cup or the
glass excuse me, and it's passed from her to the bartender to the dishwasher
and the whole chain of events. Everybody gets sick and again they play it,
you know, randomly on TV for the for the next seven years,
and boom when it happens. That is triggered in people's mind because it's been
played over and over and over. It's like subliminal programming almost. And I
mean you know it's terrible to say it, but the evil has done a
good job. I mean they had a goal and they've executed it and they've
been successful. Yeah, and that they continue to be and they've used technology
to their power and we'll see what the next big thing is, hopefully again.
I do believe they overplayed their cards with COVID. I do see a
bit of awaken within the Christian community for sure, and around the world.
I think it has brought excuse me, bad grammar, it has brought people
closer to God because I think people realize how evil things are here on Earth
and it I just do see that there is a big awakening, both spiritually
and you know, just being able to see. Like the old They Live
movie when Roddy Piper's trying to put the glasses on the guy, that was
like kind of an analogy for people who are awake. You know, we
see things differently, and the glasses were just kind of the symbol for being
awake. Yeah. I never watched that full movie, but I watched a
lot of clips on it, because, yes, it was interesting. When
I first seen it, I was actually a bit surprised. It's like,
what makes you think it's like how long how do they get movies out like
that? All right? You know? And then it's like how long have
people really been thinking stuff that we think today? But maybe it's just the
technology that everybody, you know, it can easily accessible, you know what
I mean? Yeah, for sure. Absolutely, it's a great movie.
I have it on Blu ray and I have the movie poster sitting right behind
me. I see that movie probably fifty times. Yeah, it's so many
rabbit holes. And I'll tell you on my other podcast, every time I
go down a particular rabbit hole, like this week we're doing one on Fauci,
you come across ten other rabbit holes and it's shocking how many of them
actually intersect and you that's when you really start to realize that, you know,
this evil is controlled by a small group of people. Yeah, I'll
believe it. And I think back to the depopulation and I think that they
are trying. But you know, with this AI stuff coming out and makes
me wonder, it's like, if it becomes advanced enough to the point where
AIS can do what the humans do, what used with the controllers have for
humans? Yeah, I guess at that point they'll they'll start to you know,
thin our numbers down even more, right I mean yeah, and that
goes back to what you AI say. Again, I'm sorry they could blame
it on the AI. Oh absolutely, they'll use it as a scapegoat,
right, yeah, absolutely, and uh yeah, that will definitely. Um
then down the herd. Like you said, now is the time to be
cognizant of what you eat and what you drink for sure, more than ever.
Um yeah, I've heard some theories. They even they could even put
vaccines in the fees. Now, that's what they are doing now, yea
sir. Yeah, and so it's really scary. And that's why I mentioned
in my email and my first email to you that I was interested in homesteading.
But it's it's it's hard, and I'm going through some stuff now,
Like I just basically quit my job, oh wow, because I'm tired,
you know. And it's it's everything. It keeps you energy drained. That's
why I said earlier. I'm trying to explore other ways of income. I
don't know what I'm gonna do just yet, but I'm just um, you
know, I've got to start somewhere. Yeah, if there's a will there's
a way, and if it's God's calling to you, he'll point you in
the right direction. You know, pray about it, and you know,
it's amazing. Look what God did for your mom. And I think that
you have. UM. You know, you're you're smart, you're young,
You've got your whole life ahead of you, and um, I think you
have a lot of knowledge. And again I've said so many times, we've
had a lot of folks, you know, under the age of thirty five
on this podcast, whom our years ahead of me when I was y'all's age
as far as being able to see the truth. So I think you've got
a very bright future ahead of you. And I hope you're you're somehow able
to do something where you can still have plenty of time to do what you're
doing sharing the truth, because you know, the two biggest resources that we
always kind of fall short on is time and money. We usually run out
of one or the other, and we just have to pick and choose what
we do during the day. You know, I wish I could do a
podcast every single day to put out there to folks, but again, it's
just we only have so much time, right, Yeah, And It's funny
you say tom and money always lacking one or the other. But the thing
is is both were created. Yeah, well there you go, brother,
You're right, they're created. And you know, I got to be there
at nine and right. They didn't have that back in the day. You
know, the sun came up, people got up and they went out out,
they harvested their food, they sat down with their family, they cooked,
and you know, there's something to be said about living a simpler life
like when when we first went to Iraq. I know this is probably a
poor analogy, but we lived in a very, very austere environment. We
didn't have anything. We were in the middle of nowhere, and everything we
did it was like almost going backwards in time two hundred years. We had
to hand wash our own clothes and buckets, we had to get our own
water, and we had so much food available to us via MRIs and you
know, everything we did was for a reason, and that's kind of how
you set your schedule. Back in the day. You had to get up,
you had to forge, but everything you did was to provide for your
family or to provide safety for your family. It wasn't to make a lot
of money. So you could have a lot of things, and then you
had to work a little harder because the government took twenty percent of your money
and you know, they didn't tell them what they could have and what they
couldn't have and what was illegal. And again with progress, you know when
you get nice things and we look, we do live comfortable now, Like
we have air conditioning, we have not plasma, I guess that's even old.
Now we have HDTV. You know, we're sitting here behind a computer
having a conversation, you know, a thousand miles away from each other,
and we're going to share it with folks from around the world. So their
technology is good. But at the same time, look at the look at
what we have to do. You know, not to sound like a bleeding
heart liberal, right, but there's literally a lot of the things that we
have in front of me right now, like these computers and monitors are made
in people in you know, like Thailand and China that are making very minimal
money working you know, six twelve hour shifts. So it's kind of a
weird world. World. Weird world we live in, and don't we Yeah,
And you know, I've come across these ideas just like what if we
could. I mean, I think we've all seen it movies and stuff where
you pretend to be the bad guy to get in and you know, destroy
the bad guy. Man, do you think like someone in that like that
in real life as possible to have like a white hat infiltrate like that.
The problem is that the government has gotten so big it would take more than
one person. It would take a group of people to infiltrate different levels of
government, and I think they have that under such tight wraps. They only
nominate, like if you go to different positions like usaid is a government position
which sends up billions of dollars to aid for other countries. All these it's
the same people you see all the time. They just jump around in different
positions. Condoleeza Rices and all these people, the neo cons and the um
It's just the same group of people. They want you to believe their enemies.
But I always go back to the two thousand and four election, Like,
if you want any more proof that this game is rigged, you know,
you look at John Kerry and George Bush. They're both skull and bones
guys. We had no choice, and the game is rigged. And the
million dollar question is that how do we how do we get out of the
system? Do we just all we can? We can we convince enough people
to walk away from the system. I don't think we're at the point now
where we can like flip the current system. I think the only way we're
going to succeed at this point is walk away create our own system. You
know, I agree with that a lot. And I've seen on TikTok you
know that they don't get a lot of attention or anything, but there's community.
People are starting communities. You know, they're bringing both sides of the
families together on a piece of land and start like homesteading basically. And I
think, you know that if it becomes more popular, that more people will
do it. And you know, people like that. They don't pay attention
to the news, so there they never have to worry about being, you
know, in fear of something, because that's basically all the news is just
keep you in fear. Yeah, I can. I can assure you that
the Amish people aren't worried about most of the things we're talking about. Oh
yeah, you know, but it goes back to like what a lot of
people say, humans are just naturally curious, and it's like, I don't
know, I think we deserve to know as much of the truth as God
would allow. And I don't know. Maybe maybe that's where we're at now.
Yeah, and I agree, and I do believe that the people at
the top do have that knowledge. I don't know how much knowledge, because
even they only have so much, even with you know, the help of
Satan that I don't have all the knowledge. God certainly didn't give Lucifer all
his knowledge. But you know, they always the story goes that, you
know, Lucifer was the hero because he freed out him and Knee from the
Garden of Eve. And that's how they pervert everything, and that's why they
think he is, you know, he's the man. But yeah, I
mean he is. He can make all your dreams come true. He can
make all your dreams come true if if you're willing to give out of every
that's right. Like the million dollar Man the wrestler used to say, Yeah,
everything comes with a price, and it's a heck of a price to
pay if you're willing to accept. And I'm here to tell y'all, life
goes fast. Life goes really fast. No matter how good or you know,
I felt like I was thirty two just a few minutes ago, and
boom here I am. You know, over fifty. It's just insane.
I understand the feeling, you know. You know, everybody says, oh,
you're young, you got your whole life, he had it. Yeah,
well, I promise you thirty of right around a corner, and I
mean, going down the routes that were going, that's like midway life point,
you know what I mean. Everybody just assumes, you know, fifty
is midlife. But if you go and continue down the government's paths, you
know, eating what they say and breathing air drink or whatever, you know,
life expectancy is barely eighty years. Yeah, and at the retirement age
is fixing it go up again to like sixty nine. Yeah, that just
happened in another country. I want to say. It was France, and
those folks were out in the street every day for a few weeks. Yeah.
And you never saw that on the news. No, No, you
only found that on alternative alternative media sites. Yep, like TikTok. Yeah,
like TikTok. There you go. That's where I found it because I
scrolled across the videos like, yeah, you've seen what's going on in Paris
and Frances what so you know you TikTok look it up on TikTok and sure
enough, there's so many videos, millions protesting and it was literally literally millions,
and they basically just want you to work in until you die, right,
Yeah, I mean, and that's nobody should be okay with that.
No, not at all. I don't understand how anybody could be on board
with it. Yeah, sure, let's let's do this. No, absolutely
not. We we were created, this earth was created for us, and
we should be able to go and see all of this wonders and use all
of it's the things that gives us because we give us everything we need to
survive. So it's like, you know, they created all this stuff for
practically nothing. That's my mindset. It's like, why can't we just live
where we were designed to live? Yeah, and go back to community.
But they destroy the communities in the seventies and eighties, and that's another big
part of the problem, and that they brainwash you know, the children.
You know, when you turn eighteen, run as far away as your families,
you can, right go out and start your life. But again that
would be great, like you said, families have in their own land like
joint properties, right, large homesteads with with with family, not you know,
helping each other out. And again, the monetary system is the problem.
It's the current monetary system, how it's used, how it's taxed,
and how they have trivialized the dollar with hyper inflation. Everything has just gotten
so expensive. And every time there's inflation, people have to work harder,
longer hours. And it's a shame people don't really, you know, I
can't enjoy their life to the fullest. Yeah, And they make it harder
and harder because just like school is useless, they don't teach you really nothing
you need, Like you should be learning how to do your taxes and stuff
in our school, learning how to build credit, you know, imagine that.
Yeah, I always joke I've never used algebra since I've graduated high school.
I had to find a square root of anything. Yeah, I know,
it's it is funny. And you look again, if you count the
actual hours twelve years, one hundred and eighty days times eight hours, it's
just it's it's a lot and the greatest, you know, the thing I've
ever done was homeschool, and I hope we've encouraged more people to do so.
Yeah, I have no kids right now, but that is that's kind
of why I'm like going down this route, is because I want to make
sure financially stable enough, you know, even if it takes, you know,
having to sacrifice everything for some time to save the money to get what
I need, you know, I want to be able to teach my kids
what they need to know, not what the public school system wants them to
think they know. Yeah. Absolutely, no greater joy than molding your own
child's mind and not sending them off to have a stranger do so. Again,
there's great teachers, great private schools out there, and I'm sure there's
even some good public schools. It all depends on your situation, yeah,
of course, And there's there are benefits to school, you know, the
friendships and the athletics, and you could still do athletics from homeschool. But
I'm just glad at this juncture of the world and where it's at, I
just wouldn't There's I would never send my daughter back to a public school.
Not not today's world. Yeah, I mean it's gotten worse since Eve when
I was in school. I mean, and a lot of it's not even
just about what they're teaching them. It's about their safety, you know.
Yeah, it's a big issue. Yeah, for sure what we are at
the ninety minute mark. Was there was there anything that you had that you
wanted to cover that we hadn't touched on yet. I don't think so.
I know, we didn't talk a lot flat Earth, but like it's like
I tell everybody, the flat Earth is open and wised everything else. And
I think, you know, that's why my podcast is the Flat Earth Reality,
because we can actually talk about everything because the reality if you believe in
a globe, your reality is going to be different when a globe versus if
you believe the Earth is flat, because you can see how different their actual
reality is on your flat Earth then on a globe Earth. Yeah, and
we control our reality. And like you said, that is something that I
really learned when I, you know, accepted flat Earth and realized heliocentrism was
just another tactic by the controllers to keep us in a prison, right and
in a prison planet. It's exactly what it is, and it frees your
mind and mine was kind of the opposite of years. It was kind of
the last barrier I broke down, but it did open my mind to other
things I was able to. I guess I would be more I was less
willing to look at before the flat Earth opened up. Then I'm like,
well, if this was a lie, then maybe I should go back look
at this, this and this, you know. And I really enjoy hearing
that, and because I got to experience it a little bit with you,
George, because I actually, you know, after I got caught up on
your flatterth Files podcast, I was like, well, let me go see
what some of the stuff he's talking about on his back Hunter, and I
went to the very beginning, and I think it was like the eleventh episode
you were getting everybody ready for David Wie and it was it was just so
it was nice, after I've heard everything you had to say, you know,
flat earthwise, I got to go back to the beginning, basically when
you just discovered it. And it was cool for me because it's like it's
like one of your members said, you know, you don't know me,
but I know you just because I listened to you all the time. So
it's like when I went back to the fact Hunter and got to witness when
you was first coming into it, it was actually like really awesome. Yeah,
it's um and it's funny. I don't know if like I was excited,
I thought everybody would be so like, well, you know, we
really found a rabbit hole here. You know, we just thought flat Earth
was just another you know, conspiracy theory. And you know, the next
day after I posted that episode, I had so many emails like you had
a good thing going and you just ruined it with flatterth And I was like
what I was. I was a little in shocked at how device if it
was. And uh, you know, I tried to broach it again a
few times, and every single time. Two things that'll get you in trouble
in the podcast world is is Trump episodes and Flat Earth episodes? One eye
that's why you started on the other podcast? Yeah, the flat Earth.
I'm listening, you know what, because I was very passionate about it,
and uh, I you know, I just wanted to have it in a
place where people who wanted to be a part of it could be not I
didn't want it to be divisive. And it's really a blessing because um,
you know, it's I mean, people get to share their stories and you
know, just they get to hear things like what you just said about your
mom, that this is positive messages that in a world full of evil that
we don't hear enough of. I agree with you, and that's really why
I wanted to get into podcasting, because the podcasting world seems to be awesome,
you know, and a lot of people do listen to podcasts, and
people do get curious and we'll go type in flat earth and that's all it
takes is just listening, you know. And it's easier to do it if
you're like working or doing something that you enjoy or something you know, because
you're doing something but you can focus and listen, right You don't have time
to really sit there and go, oh, I don't want to listen to
this, or too busy, so you don't even change it, and the
next thing, you know, you're a flat earth. Right. Yeah,
there's a reason that podcast numbers are much bigger during the week than the weekends.
Most people when they're working or doing their chores or whatever, they're listening
to podcasts. On the weekends, most people are out don't get as many.
But I mean we still get quite a bit, but I think most
people consume podcasts at work or while they're driving or doing cutting grass or things
like that. Yep, glad, I'm glad to be here. Yeah,
it was a tremendous ninety minutes. And I hope people check out your podcast,
which will be linked in the show description, as well as Robert's email
address, which is the Flat Earth Reality ninety five at gmail dot com.
And again we'll have the link to his podcast. Check that out. And
as always, Robert, I'll leave you with the last words. So I
always say, you know, and most flat earths will say, don't necessarily
take our words, just go look at it yourself. And I mean look
at everything and decide for yourself. And that's why when people do that have
their own theories. You know, there's not you know, flat earths have
many different theories. Could there be a dome or not or whatever, but
you know, we all think and decide for ourselves. Yep. I couldn't
said it any better myself. Listen to everyone and discern for yourself. That's
what the great Bill Cooper said. So again, I want to thank you
for your time, and I hope everybody checks out your podcast. And I
wish you all the success and keep in touch. And for Robert, I'm
George. Don't forget the flat earth Files dot com and email us at the
flat earth Files at gmail dot com. And again check the show description for
all of Robert's information. For Robert, I'm George. God bless everyone and
have a great week and until next time, we'll see you.