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It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast with
Jack Encarnaco and JP Sorrow and Welcome to

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the TLF Christmas Show, The Unwrapping
Part two two thousand and twenty three,

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three twenty three, and we were
obliged to do it again. The generosity

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and the thoughtfulness and creativity the solar
system made for some magic when it's weird

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seeing like seeing your face like it's
weird talking and it's so bizarre. That's

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one of the real gift that the
laps Fan Solar System gives to us every

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year is not so much the physical
gifts that get sent to the po box.

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It's bringing us together in the same
room once a year, guaranteed to

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to revel in the generosity. And
unlike last year, we're actually cooped up

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in the actual studio that Boss Man
records in every single time. And it's

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it's something to see, folks.
It is. It is a menageree of

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you know, just like immaturity.
Yes, oh absolutely, there's there are

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toys everywhere, uh, movies places. It's it's a disaster right now.

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Do I see the Christmas story leg
lamp? Oh you absolutely do? Oh

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yes, fuck yes, that that's
that is the you know that's that is

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the lamp. So go ahead if
you turn off the light here, Oh

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she want me to do it?
Turn off the light? This? This

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is this is what I do for
cinemat when we watch the movie. Oh,

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you actually got to turn off the
lights that I fucking just had the

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leg lamp going and I have I
have the monitor screen, monitor screen,

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So you work by lamp light like, well, that's the only way you

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can count the dollars the right way. No, Vince came in the office

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is about eleven thirty. You know, I like to work by lamp light.

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And uh, what's going on in
here? What is this device?

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This illuminatory device? What is this? What's that faint war here? Is

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that a refrigerator? Or is that? No? That that's my fan?

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Actually, that is an actual fan. It's an actual fan. I thought

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that's not a laps fan, but
it's a fan. I thought that might

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hold some vials as well as Vinci's
cokes. No, but I'll tell you

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what. I haven't brought it up
since the last pay careful Fox one.

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This is I put ice in here
sometimes for pay per views. Oh yeah,

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yeah, g that beer cold.
God, I feel privileged. To

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see it. I see Yokozuna Hasbro, I see I see a Barry Windham

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galube. He's spectacular, which you
know because I can see which toys he

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puts actually next to the keyboard that
can actually reach while recording. Yes,

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ones that may have a little click, but for the most part are pretty

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silent. So it's like, you
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I mean that Berry windom so versatile. I've never seen him before. But

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tell the people, well if you
if you don't know Berry Windham, He's

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got kind of the almos als,
the like the positioning of the like ravishing

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recruit and stuff like, he's got
the arm kind of up. But it's

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like it's it's one of the ones
that actually is not like any w W

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E has Bro. It's not really
he's got his his fist is actually kind

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of I don't even know what you
call this, but his fist is ready,

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it's perfectly positioned to throw a punch, throw a punch and and you

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know the lugar glube like fists or
by his you can never do a good

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punch with that, No you can't. You have to hear force for arm

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shots, you know, like that
like that. But if you pointed out

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Windham can do a wonderful uh,
he can do he can do a great

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power slam. Here we go,
look at that perfect form second generation the

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I like the glue better than the
actual guy. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

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there's no And he can do a
great spinebuster that's absolutely perfect, you

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know, like it's just a it's
a really of all the globes I have,

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I didn't have one. I didn't
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I found that's the only one that
has arms like that. I think.

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So I found him? Where did
I find him? Oh? I

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found him? You know, occasionally
when I'm in that, when I'm in

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that zone, I go through a
crazy I want to find a store,

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you know, you want to walk
into the junk store type place. And

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I found one that was just it
was insane. It was such a it

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was such it was like somebody's garage
almost nice and just tons and like box

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fulls of galubes and hasbros and stuff. You know, it was wild.

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And I remember I found I found
Windom there. I mean, there's nothing

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more Christmas than wrestling toys. Absolutely, two folks that are in the TLF

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demographic. You know, so we
all have our holiday stories of unwrapping unique

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magic that wrestling figures can bring you. And so that's it's actually highly appropriate.

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I think that we're we're surrounded by
Hasbro horrific, by juvenile oh totally

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delinquency. I mean so so pathetic
that we belong to a generation that plays

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with action figures more than our kids
do. Yes, oh absolutely, I

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mean way more. Absolutely. When
you rattle the TB microphone movement off to

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bear with that, but that's a
tug boat I see on the tugger.

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Yeah, I got that. I
got that. That that new retro.

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Now when you buy cinemat DVDs,
do you hang on to them and put

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them on the shelf here? Sometimes? Some sometimes, I mean all those

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are you can make it look all
those are cinemats right there, those ones

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right there, those are all Yeah, those are all those are all.

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I'm not going to spoil anything,
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no, no no, but you
can you can take a look because

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you don't know when they're coming,
you know. That's the beauty on the

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waterfront. On the waterfront. Yeah, that was one Jeff Towne, that

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that box of that box of moonlight
it's like I think it's a restaurant movie,

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but Headbanger Mash is in it.
I wait to get to that one.

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We got the Burned Guyn to Dina
powder from last year. Yeah,

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oh yeah, I keep that many
great gifts, you know, last year

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our very first Christmas show and wrapping
one. Uh she's the Ico pro fanny

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pack that's still in circulation. Yeah, I still use that all the time.

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I use that. The Abdullah the
Butcher figurine that's like pre painted.

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Oh yeah you got that, Yeah, you got that. I got that.

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I got the two Jesse's on my
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in the downstairs to Action the Action. Yeah, I mean they're even bigger

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than that. Like yeah, probably
don't, Barbarie, you know, probably

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ain't got shipped on Jesse. You
remember, of course the Jerry Lawler blessed

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calendar we got with him to this
state of Nope, I don't remember that

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in a state of undress. No, I have spent a year trying to

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be working in therapy to get that
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back up. That's right. My
wife found the fucking the creepy Jerry Lawler.

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Uh. Uh, like tapestry type
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what is this? Yeah, that's
a great question. And I was like,

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yeah, you know this this I
this is awkward. This is an

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awkward moment. And all those personal
gifts, like people sending us like records

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they kept of the show and of
their personal wrestling fandom and trinkets. One

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of my favorites from their from the
banks of their memories and the nostalgia that

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it touches off, the likes of
which only we can access. One of

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them is yeah, I don't know
where it is, but the the Royal

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Umber ninety one magazine. Wow,
we got so much wonderful stuff and and

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and you know, it was it
was way too much. It was it

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was like exhausting. It was like
we finished recording that first Christmas episode,

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we looked at each other like what
did we just remember? There was other

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stuff too, Like there were gifts
within the gifts remember that. Yeah,

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we were finding things that we're hidden
in the actual packaging that we were ready

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to discard. And so can't wait
to see what the Solar Systems could get

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for us this year as we return
to the Christmas hearth and get you you

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know, in the solar system,
appropriately situated to have hopefully lovely and warm

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and nostalgic holiday that that you know, recalls, you know, those moments

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of youth that we still chase,
that we still in our hearts seek to

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recollect. Where where where the I
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every generation has nostalgia, obviously,
but I feel I feel like we're the

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only generation, or at least the
first generation, to actively pursue and to

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try to re obtain, reobtain and
in many cases obtain what we couldn't the

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elusive I'm looking at the red hull. Yes, yes, and and but

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I think of too, like the
the amount of movies and TV shows that

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have had these uh reboots, but
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the Untouchable Christmas Story had like an
actual sequel, not like the crappy

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sequel that came out in the nineties, but like with Peter Billings, Peter

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Peter Billings, you know, like
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active thing, it's an active thing
to to really retreat all that shit.

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Yeah, it's very bizarre. And
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there's no more appropriate time than the
holiday season to kind of appreciate this.

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The first generation to have the resources
to actually find these things that proved delusive.

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Yes, our parents didn't have eBay, Nope, they didn't have Amazon.

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They didn't have a systematic way of
finding elusive lost media, or they

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didn't have a reality right and so
theydn't have reality they had You know,

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people might ship in our generation for
being orally nostalgic, but it's just simply

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the fact that we're the first generation
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so that our parents, our boomers
are so miserable because they couldn't that and

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they can't and they won't. They
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and and and and those connective experiences. They had to tell themselves that,

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you know, life is hard.
You know, uh play you know,

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play hard, you know, just
don't play. Don't play right exactly work

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because they work, work right.
Work. They couldn't once they came into

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disposable income and adulthood. Reach back
and and and grab and where where we're

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a testament and this room in fact
and this this show, this Christmas specialist

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testament to that that that unique option
we're allowed and you judge that however you

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are maybe it's is it is it? Is it? Is it unhealthy?

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Yeah? Is it? Is it
gratifying? Yes? Is it satisfying?

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Yes, it's funny how things are
gratifying and satisfying unhealthy? Is it toxic?

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Absolutely right? You ever notice that
the things we're told are are you

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know, sort of like negative marks
against our maturity happen or or things that

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are not so much good for us
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It's absolutely of course, given give
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fuck you know, like fucking Halloween
candy, right, I mean it does

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candy touch those? Those are fucking
awful. So whatever people say, we

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don't agree on things. Candy corn, I love it. I love it.

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I love it. So we are
going to approach this a little differently

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this year in terms of how we
format the Christmas show. We thought for

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many reasons, one of which is
the fact that we're not around the hearth,

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and we have, in fact,
Mama sorrow elsewhere in the house and

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we don't want to disturb her with
our big production that we had the luxury

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are or the rest of the house
for that matter. Everyone else's everyone else

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is asleep as well. And because
a lot of members of the Solar System

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are telling us that this year it
was tough to get us gifts this early

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in advance, we had, you
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We want to make sure we get
this done every year, and so we

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got to go extra early before our
respective family lives get so busy, as

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you know, once after a Thanksgiving
forget it. It's all right. Anyone

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knows that it's it's the hardest thing
to do to to to put something together

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like this, and yet it's extra
tricky for us to give really specific guidance

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to the Solar System to a drop
dead date that gifts need to be in

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our post office box here and here
in Connecticut. Christmas in Connecticut, by

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the way, right, so one
I can watch that film this year having

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checked that bought there's there's there's a
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and Connecticut that is coming soon down
to the cinema is directed by W.

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W. Hall of Famer Arnold Schwarzenegger. The only movie that he ever directed

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Christmas in Connecticut is Christmas a Titans. As far as I could say,

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I just imagine walking in the fucking
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Well, we got the company Christmas
card from nineteen ninety one. Last year's

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a gift. Remember that animated hey
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So the change in format this year
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we'll play it by air every year
because there's still gifts to come from people

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in the Solar System that we really
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of, you know, the Christmas
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We're going to do separate little mini
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we're going to and those who took
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was in the mail early and often
we'll have the luxury of our in person

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reaction to each gift. Yes,
but it won't be like a continuous one

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show and we're done. It's going
to be a little bits and as as

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packages come in, will connect remotely
for the ones that are late, and

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hopefully the folks that have been thoughtful
enough to regale us and make this a

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special show won't feel short changed to
do the right thing right honestly, So

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if you did the right thing.
You got it in before we recorded,

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so right, and so what do
you get for that? You get our

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you get Yeah, you get the
same person. And we can debate over

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who takes what gift home. Well, that's always a very easy debate.

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You get ninety five percent of it. Oh god, do you still have

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the Superstar Cereal box from nineteen ninety
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eat? There are times I have
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and eat it. We talked so
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we go eat. We got a
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So let's let's take the first gift
of Christmas. Should we go here under

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the tree? Size? Yeah,
let's go big, all right? I

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got them right here. Oh you
want to that one? You wanted the

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big one? All right? I
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is going to be the first,
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to drop on the Solar system.
Let's give them the biggest bang for the

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buck out of the gate, uh, and then scale down from there.

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So this is a package that's about
waist high. It's about the size of

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a you know, a gooding.
I'm gonna guess it's a picture of some

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sort, Yeah, like a movie
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the last time we got something like
this it ended up being a creepy ass

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picture of Jerry Loler. So I
cannot tell. I mean it comes from

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Michigan. Certainly, we've got some
great Solar System members out there, from

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Kevin Love Michigan. We're big Detroit
fans over here, fac fan. Maybe

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yeah, maybe maybe it's a piece
of silver numb and yeah, maybe a

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pair of scissors would be helpful.
It's pretty well taped. Not not to

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assume you keep a pair of scissors
close by when you're recording, as disturbing

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as that could be a ball,
I say, you have a whole array

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of box cutters. That's interesting.
Kidding, brother, brother, what he

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got there? Screwdriver? Yeah?
Got that sound? Yeah, let's fucking

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ca TF Christmas show? Bitch?
Wait it's all the way? Is it

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from a Michigan Ah? Yes,
all right? Peled open and I see

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I see a purple almost like velvety. It's it's wrap wrapping paper. Yeah,

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this is a very I see a
tag. Who's it? From at

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the bottom right there. Who's tag
who do ye tag him in? Brother?

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What does it say? All right? Yeah? It's uh oh boy.

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No, matter where this crazy podcast
world takes you remember to always be

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modest a fuck no to the top
t n H forever. From Steve and

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Jillian. Oh, this is from
Steve and Jillian. Now that's they are

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the ones that did the Jerry Lawler
pe know. Oh my god, boss,

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tell the people you're taking this one. Oh my god. It's a

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fucking what is a stand up of
It's a life sized stand up of fucking

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Jeff Hearty. It's a full size
cardboard Yeah, it's one of those like

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life sized cardboard cutouts. Yeah,
seventy four inches tall. Oh my god.

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And it's made modestly with cardboard,
made modestly in India or that is

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that is just all right. So
it's it's a w W product USA made.

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It's his USA made, and it's
it's him with sort of like you

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know, black white belt, black
black baggy pants. It looks it looks

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like like like two thousand and one
ish and his his big green I guess

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not that would be from more even
more recent. That's the fucking Yeah,

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this looks this looks past. This
looks more like current. Fuck my life.

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Oh this is an amazing piece.
Oh I get this appraised. Look

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how modest it's all his finger.
I'm sure modestly appraised honestly to the bottom

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of the fucking dumb Oh my god, Seriously, I was gonna put you

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know what I went do you know
what? You know what? I'm sorry

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Steven, Jillian, I know I'm
saying miss Deenna, and yeah, I

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appreciate the gesture, but you know
what we should do take it out back

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tomorrow and burn it fucking light jeff
Hardy on fire. That'd be hot.

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We should do it would be hot. So before we conclude this first piece

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of the twenty twenty three TLF Christmas
Show and our first the first gift of

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Christmas, as they say in the
Polar Express, you're looking right at the

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face of Jeffrey Hardy Jeffrey Nero Hardy
right now. And it's great. See

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your response in first Just tell me
what you see. Okay, fucking fun,

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annoying. You know he's also got
those you know, he's got that

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that awful like wanna be action hero
stubble. He's got he's got the fucking

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earrings that I don't understand that they
where they they spread out your ear lobes,

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because that's what people should have.
Like he can ship, like he

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could fit chains in there and like
hold something like he could fucking dangle ship

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from those things. Oh, he
must have lost a lot of weight then

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if he can fit chains in there. I just it's just I can't creature.

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Huh. He's such a dufous looking
motherfucker. Steve put in the middle,

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he said, what do he sent
us? He sent us something that

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telegraph. Oh, it's it's it's
gonna be a doozy. It's going to

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be a monster. Let me see
if I can do some like Jeff Hardy

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poetry. Maybe does it do poetry? Well, he did, didn't he

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do poetry? And he cut promos
in with poetry and he wrote. He

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sent us a message, he said, just a heads up. I think

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the package was too big for the
po box. Yes, it was,

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hero it's a substantial package. He
put package in clothes. Should it was

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actually, you know, I'm honestly
sized package. And with that, the

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first modestly sized package of Christmas has
been unwrapped. Here on the TLF twenty

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twenty three Christmas Show. Merry Christmas
to Steve and Jillian, incredible supporters of

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the TLF Solar System, and again
saddling us with an oversized gift that we

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can't in good conscience keep, and
can't in good conscience get rid of.

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Thank you, no thanks, thanks
for ruining Christmas. Please. A production

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of the Labs Entertainment Group. Its
content is intended for private use only. Sy
