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You look their way prove seventeen.
Do you want to report at UFOL making

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him? You don't want to report? Every thirty one? Do you wish

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to report at UFO Harber and we
weren't for one of those da every thirty

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one? Do you wish to find
a report of any kind of him?

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I wouldn't know what kind of reported
cloud Nier every thirty one me neither.

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There are seven one pup of golf
good if there was any uh above us

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to pass us? Like thirty seconds
ago there were seven one pup of goolf

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thinkative, okay off a UFO yeah
and Nurdy ten ninety five? Yes,

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I passed over so uh why got? I don't know what it was,

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but it's from at least two or
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passed out over the top of us
ninety one one? Do you we just

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call them off to be before resove
they're after slaying airplane and it is that

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I swear to God more calm in
on an unidentified on jec ever liberty or

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calm or calm unidentified flying on jack, Welcome clock on it Welcome to UFO

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Chronicles, a place where people share
their experiences of the strange and unexplained.

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If you've had an encounter I would
like to be on the show, you

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could email me at UFO Chronicles at
gmail dot com. Hello everyone, and

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welcome to the show. I hope
you're all doing well. I'm Nick Hunter

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and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Our first oop tonight is with Stephanie

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in a state of Ohio, sharing
a few of her encounters that she has

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had right in her life. Then
we drop in on Lincoln in South Yorkshire

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to hear about an unexplained event that
occurred back in the nineteen nineties. Stephanie

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is up next, but first,
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with the show. Hello Stephanie and
welcome to the podcast. Hey, thank

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you, thank you for joining this
today. And you're cooling from the state

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of Ohio. Yes, I am
good stuff. Now, Stephanie, you

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have some kindness to share with us. Would you like to start at the

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beginning, please, ma'am. Absolutely
so. I've had quite a few experiences

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all throughout my life, and I
will just start chronologically. My first encounter

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comes around nineteen ninety four nineteen ninety
five. I was probably three and a

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half to four, and I was
playing in the dirt beneath my swing set,

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just digging a hole, and all
of a sudden, my arm hair

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started to stand on it, and
I had that prickly feeling as if I

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was being watched. And I turned
and I looked up at the sky and

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there was a large brown cigar shaped
object hovering overhead. And in my child's

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brain, I thought, wow,
that is a good dragonfly without any wings,

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and it really scared me, and
I ran into the house without looking

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back. And I never told anyone. I never even told my mom.

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It just was. It was like
something I knew I should keep private.

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And then also as a kid,
I would wake up to bright flashing lights

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in my window and they'd make the
whole room clow and there was no sound,

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there was no I also wasn't afraid. I'd just think they're here and

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immediately fall back asleep. We were
in a really rural area, so it's

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unlikely that they were vehicles or people, and I never really thought about who

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they were. I just accepted that
something had arrived and I I also never

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told anybody about this until this past
year. My younger sister, whose room

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was right next to mine, she
casually mentioned with like no prompting at all.

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She was like, yeah, I
used to wake up in the middle

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of the night with like flashing lights
in my window. And she wasn't sure

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about why. She'd never talked about
it either. Hearing that kind of caused

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things to spiral out of control for
me, because that meant that all of

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that was real. It wasn't some
dream, It wasn't some misremembered lightning storm

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or something like that. Both of
us had witnessed this around the same time

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period. I had these really strange
dreams where someone I couldn't see their face

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and I didn't know who they were. It was just like this. I

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just kne there was like a form
guiding me. They'd come and they'd get

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me out of bed, and I
would transform into this giant owl and I

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would go flying over the treetops and
I would just you know, we lived

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in front of a wood, and
so I would go flying over the woods

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and I would always my goal was
to make it to this big, giant

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golden moon. I would always fly
straight towards that moon, and then I'd

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wake up. And now I'm hearing
that owls are often like an archetype for

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aliens, for a lot of people
who see owls later have experiences. So

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I thought was kind of interesting,
and I never really put it together until

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recently that maybe the dreams and the
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the same time were related. And
then in two thousand, my dad was

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looking out the back window and he
was just staring at the tree line,

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and he had his binoculars, and
I said, you know, what are

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you looking at? And he gestured
out at the horizon and it was like

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there was a ferris wheel in the
sky. It was a ring of lights

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that were partially obscured by the trees. It looked like a ferris wheel,

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but it wasn't moving, it wasn't
rotating. And my dad's just said,

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oh, there are airplanes, but
we both knew they were not. Airplanes

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were not near any airports, and
even if it were. I don't think

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that things would look like that,
And so recently I was like, hey,

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Dad, remember when we saw that
light? And he said, don't

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talk about that, which really kind
of freaked me out. And my most

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recent experience, which is the most
significant to me, it was July twenty

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twenty one and I woke up in
the middle of the night and I had

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this intense urge to go outside.
And this is not something that normally happens

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to me. I usually sleep through
the night, and if I do wake

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up, I don't think, oh, I gotta go outside. But I

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listened, and I set up a
stool in the middle yard, and I

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stared up at the stars, and
I knew something was going to happen.

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I had the strange sense of anticipation. I could just feel like something was

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happening. Soon enough, I saw
a red orange Paul sitting light just travel

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across the sky and it was right
where I was looking. It kind of

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crackled with this energy. It didn't
flash like a plane. There was no

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tail like a like a meteor or
a comment or whatever. It just was

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this orb and after a while it
blinked out. I was just astounded.

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I knew I had just seen something
really amazing, and the more I thought

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about it, I began to doubt
myself. What if it was just something

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astronomical, What if it was a
shooting star. I hadn't seen a shooting

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star in a really long time,
so I was like, maybe I just

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don't know what a shooting star looks
like anymore. But as soon as I

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thought that a bright white shooting star
arcd across the sky in the same area

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that the UFO had traveled, that
really made me pause. I immediately felt

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like I had interacted with something,
you know, I had made this experience

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happen, or that something was communicating
with me, like something was saying,

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Oh, you want a shooting star, here's your star, here's what they

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look like. That I felt really
good after this encounter, like I felt

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really at peace. I felt something
had acknowledged me, and there was almost

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a playful energy there. And I
just went back upstairs and I went to

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bed. It's just I don't know, it just it seemed almost I want

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to stay beautiful to me. And
you said you had the urge to go

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outside. Yes, yes I was. I woke up and I thought I

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just had the thought I need to
go out. And I went straight outside

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of my pajamas and barefoot, and
I sat in the middle of the yard.

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There was no voices or anything that
it was just a pure urge.

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Yep. Yeah, just yeah,
it was just my own my own brain

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saying you gotta go out. Then
you witnessed this light. Yea. Again,

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that's something you know, we do
get occasionally where people do have these

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urges. And I was only talking
about this with someone earlier. It's a

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common thing. And your sister,
your sisters mentioned these lights before. M

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Yeah, my sister and I are
really close and people always think we're twins.

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We're not. We have like three
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And the fact that she saw them
to it, she was even younger than

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me, so when I was seeing
them at six, she was three.

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And the fact that she remembers that
is really significant to me. And the

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fact that she brought it up first, you know, with no prompting.

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It was interesting to me because that
kind of you know, it wasn't like

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I said, oh I saw this, and she's like, yeah, me

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too. It was she brought it
up. Hey. I used to wake

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up and there were these lights and
I just thought that was interesting, an

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interesting coincidence there, And did you
mention anything else or anything else has happened

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maybe recently my sister, Yeah,
not really. One time when we were

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driving home from we were like picking
up a pizza and we were driving home,

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me and her, and we saw
these red lights in the sky and

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kind of a triangular pattern. But
for some reason, I've always thought in

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my head that was not in a
counter like I just kind of felt I

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don't know why. I just had
this sense like, oh, that's nexus,

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that's not significant. But she and
I we parked the car, we

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got out stood in the middle of
the road and my dad used to do

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these lanterns where you'd light a candle
and it would float up in the air

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like a paper lantern. And so
I ran in. I was like,

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did you just do a bunch of
lanterns? And he's like no. So

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I don't know what it was.
But I don't know if I was just

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more skeptical at that time in my
life. I've really come more to accept

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the phenomena now, at an older
a. I guess now that I've had

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the July twenty twenty one experience really
changed things for me. So I guess

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that experience I just was like whatever, I don't know why, it just

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didn't didn't stick out my head that
way. So before the July twenty twenty

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one, you didn't really have so
much of an interest or even really an

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opinion. I had watched X Files
in the nineties, and I was aliens

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are cool, and I kind of
collected like some paraphernalia and stuff like that.

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But I never thought that I personally
had been like abducted or had a

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special tide to anything like this.
I just I had like a passing interest,

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and like in the way that you're
interested in all things paranormal. Like

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I liked ghosts, I like witches, I liked you know what I mean,

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I liked anything strange. But it
wasn't UFOs and aliens where my biggest,

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you know, interest, Whereas now
I think, out of any supernatural

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paranormal thing, I'm definitely really invested
in the whole UFO and alien thing.

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And when did it curt you that
there was other things in your past that

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had happened they around twenty twenty twenty
twenty one, I started thinking, like,

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you know what, all those things
that happened to me are significant,

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and maybe they're all connected. COVID. Really it was a time of introspection

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for me and I, you know, I was worried my family was going

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to die and stuff like that.
So I started really just analyzing my whole

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life. And then I had that
experience in twenty twenty one with the orange

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light and that I just felt I
felt really special. After that, I

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felt I felt chosen, and I
know that's maybe that's a little I don't

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want to say cocky, just I
just felt something had happened to me.

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It was very affirming and vindicating.
I felt, if that was possible,

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what else was possible. Yeah,
A lot of people did have a lot

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of reflection by their own lives and
okay, any strange dreams. Yeah,

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so I have the al dreams.
So those were reoccurring, and that was

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mostly when I was a child.
Around the other experiences I did not have.

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I guess I did have one dream
now that i'm remembering it where So

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I went to bed. And I'm
very much a believer in like lucid dreaming

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and the idea that you can like
influence what your dream about. So before

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I went to bed, I said
I wanted to answer to the whole UFO

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question, I just want to know. I'm just curious. I just wanted

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enough something. I want to learn
something tonight about aliens. I'm really corny.

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Why not try? So? I
went to bed with this thought in

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my head, and this might just
be my own psyche being. Yeah here,

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Yeah, in my dream I was
aboard a ship and a very classic

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like Graylian was there and they didn't
say anything, but in my head they

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said, you already know everything you
need to know, and he shoved me,

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and then I woke up. You
already know what you need to know.

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Yes, So that could be a
little or a lot, right,

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Yeah, finds me of when people
say the president has a need the alien

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question is a need to know?
Basis does he need to know? And

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a lot of people say the president
doesn't even need to know, you know

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what I mean, Like it's like
this level of classification and need to know.

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I really thought that was kind of
like a governmental term, you know.

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So the fact that it was in
my dream was strange. And when

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these dreams, you would transform into
an owl and then and then go off.

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Now would you be alone? Yeah? Well, so in the beginning

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of the dream, there would be
this figure, and I couldn't. I

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never looked at their face. I
don't know why I feel I have the

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impression that if I did look at
their face, there'd be nothing there.

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But it was almost a motherly figure. I felt very safe, I felt

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very guided. And they would get
me out of bed and usher me out

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into the living room, out down
the hall outside, and I would transform

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into this giant owl and i'd fly. And I don't remember anyone flying with

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me. I don't remember seeing anyone
while I was lying okay. And then

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you would fly to this golden moon. Yeah. It was a supernaturally large

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moon, and it was it was, like I want to say, like

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the harvest moon. That's the term
that comes to mind. It was just

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this perfectly full golden moon. And
I've always wondered if maybe that was standing

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in for something else, you know, just as I was an owl,

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maybe the moon is something else too. Yeah, and possibly how many times

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would would you have said you'd had
this dream or dream similar to change into

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an owl and then head into this
harvest moon. It was very regular.

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I almost came to expect it,
and it wasn't a scary dream, So

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I really welcomed it. I know
I had it at least five times,

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maybe more. And it seems like
it would happen on the weekends. I

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would go to bed and my dad's
friends were there, and it was just

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like a very busy happening time.
So I want to say it was like

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on the weekends. I want to
say multiple times, fairly regularly. And

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I want to say it was concentrated
around the summer, because whenever I would

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have these dreams, the trees would
heavily use and it was warm and all

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this stuff, But it doesn't really
coincide with like the harvest aspect of the

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moon, so I'm not I'm not
totally sure there. And would the dream

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always follow the same linear path?
Oh? Yeah, absolutely, it was

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the same dream every time. Was
there anything that you can recall that was

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anything different, maybe a different direction, different location, like from dream to

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dream, from dream to dream,
yet any anything that was maybe maybe different,

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maybe maybe you followed a different path. Not really, No, it

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would be the exact same every time. I remember maybe one time where I

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stood on the couch first and looked
at the picture above the couch, and

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it was a picture it's actually above
my bed, now it's of cherry blossoms.

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And I don't know why I did
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to go on the couch, like
stand on the couch in my waking hours,

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so I was like, I'm going
to stand on the couch now.

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So I do remember doing that and
like kind of jumping on the couch and

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just like generally being bad and then
going out the door in the dream.

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Sometimes in our dreams we dream about
places that they don't seem to exist.

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Were you dreaming specifically about the location
where you live, you know, the

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area? Oh? Absolutely, I
would. I remember. So there's this

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very large tree in the field behind
my dad's house. It's a very old

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oak tree, and I would fly
over that tree and I remember like being

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able to see it from above and
the branches lining up with how they would

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look from the ground, and I
could feel the distance between myself and the

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tree like it was in absolutely like
three D. It wasn't like a flat

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plane or anything like that. And
it felt very real in the field.

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The topography of that really matched real
life. I mean, it was as

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real as could be, I guess, And you live in a different area

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now, I do. Yeah,
So I grew up in a very rural

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area with a lot of fields,
a lot of forests, stuff like that.

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And now I live in a suburb
and there's a field behind me.

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But I live in a little community
now, so so that was the family

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home. When you would have these
dreams, how would you How would you

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feel about them, and how would
you feel the next day. I really

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liked them. I felt very comforted
by them. I really liked the figure

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that would come get me. Like
I said, there was a motherly vibe

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there. I felt safe and warm, and when i'd fly, it was

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amazing. It was super fun,
and I would think like, finally,

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this is what I want to do. This is who I want to be,

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is this flying owl. And I
felt very free, even though I

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was always going towards the same end
goal there, which was the moon.

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I felt like I had a lot
of choice and I had a lot of

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freedom in these moments. And then
the next day I would just kind of

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be like, yeah, I had
that dream again, that's cool, and

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I just go on with my life. You know. Sometimes when I dream,

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I put my head on the pillow
and pretty much straight into a dream.

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It would feel and then the next
day would I wouldn't feel refreshed,

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I'd feel tired. I've been at
it one night. No, I definitely,

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I don't think I felt tired.
I just it was kind of like

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a curious like, oh yeah,
that happened, and I would feel fine.

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And even when I had like the
light splinking in the window and I'd

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wake up and be like, oh, yeah, they're here, I would

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not feel tired the next day,
which I don't know if that you know

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that something didn't happen, or proof
that something did happen, you know,

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like I was I was restored in
some way or something like that. But

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yeah, I definitely, I don't
ever remember feeling tired. But also I

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was a kid, and I don't
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Ever. No, you're absolutely,
You're absolutely right there. I don't either.

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It seemed that we had some of
the best batteries. Oh absolutely,

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yeah, like constantly on the go, this figure would guide you at the

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house. It wouldn't go with you
or anything like that. Would always Yeah,

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I don't remember. I don't remember
it coming with me. I don't

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don't remember seeing it from the sky, so I'm not sure where they went.

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Did you ever tie your family about
these dreams. I can't remember.

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I don't. I was kind of
a private person, and I don't know

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if I would have told my family
about any of my dreams even when I

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was young, just because on one
hand, I kind of felt, you

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know, keep these things close to
you, but also I kind of felt,

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oh, they're kind of silly,
Like what is telling people about my

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dreams going to do? And I've
always been the kind of person. I've

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always been very bored when other people
tell me their dreams. I hate to

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say it, but I do.
So I've always been like, oh,

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no one wants to hear that.
No one wants to hear my dream So

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did you ever think I mentioned it
to your sister? I mentioned it to

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her after she told me about her
experience with the flashing lights in the window,

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and she didn't have any experience like
that. Always best to check the

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flashing lights. Is it quite vivid
in your memory still? Oh? Yeah?

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I think so. It was.
So I'd wake up and it would

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be a very brief they're here,
and then I'd go back to sleep,

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So like there wasn't much conscious awake
time to interpret that, but I remember

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it quite well, and the lights
themselves, and what kind of colors would

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they They were white, and I
had white curtains. There were like this

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gauzy sea through material and they would
glow with this white light. And I

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don't think they were rhythmic lights.
It would be like this erratic flashing and

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it was very fast, So I
don't think it was lightning because that would

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have been like the craziest lightning storm
of all time. I didn't hear any

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thunder or anything like that. So
yeah, okay, And anyone knows that,

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you know, when you when you
live in a rural community, in

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a rural area, the chances of
getting headlights, you know, shining for

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your windows unless you're obviously you're on
a country road. Maybe, but right,

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Yeah, the way my bedroom was
parallel to the road, so if

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a car was going by, it
wouldn't have flashed in that window. Now,

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the driveway did face that window,
but my parents would not have gone

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out. How often does a car
come rolling down your driveway at like three

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am? You know? So I
don't I don't really think it was a

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car because I just there weren't that
many cars down that street to begin with.

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And now you have an interest in
the paranormal and all that kind of

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stuff. Yeah, and witches.
Oh yeah, I wanted to be a

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witch so bad. I've had a
few witches on your male and female.

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That's awesome. Yeah. I'm probably
too lazy to practice any sort of organized

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witchcraft or anything like that. I
just deinitly believe in like the universe and

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being able to commune with that.
Have you had any parlor normal experiences?

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I have. So. My mother
is very into ghosts and spirits, and

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she's constantly, you know, having
these encounters and stuff like that. I

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have had less encounters than her,
but I'm open to it. I don't

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think I'm not afraid if that it
should happen. I kind of invited in.

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I'd invite anything in quite honestly,
which I don't know if this is

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probably the safest. But so I
had one experience where my boyfriend and I

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my ex boyfriend, we were just
hanging out and we were in my room

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and I think we're watching a movie. We heard like one chime of a

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xylophone, like a children's xylophone,
if you know what I'm talking about,

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just like bing, and we looked
at each other and we checked our phones.

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This was quite a few years ago, like really before smartphones were taking

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off, So we like checked our
footphones, and we like checked his laptop.

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Someone get a notification, and I
stood up and I walked towards the

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door because that's kind of where the
sound was coming from. And I heard

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the sound of a child laughing and
little feet running down the hallway, and

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that really scared me. And this
was in my family home, which my

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father built in the late eighties.
So it's not there's this long history there

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or there have been deaths there or
something like that, but I've always had

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strange experiences in that home, and
I just think it's the energy there.

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There's just this strange energy. When
I was a child, I would wake

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up in the mornings, I would
sleep in my parents' bed because I was

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a little baby, and I would
not sleep in my own room, and

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I would hear footsteps coming down the
same hallway, but coming towards the room,

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and I would always think, that's
my grandma. It was this very

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grandmother ly I would just think that's
my grandma. And she would never make

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it to the room. She would
never enter the room, but she would

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walk what I thought was her would
walk down the hallway again and again and

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again, and when I'd wake up, she was not there. She had

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never been there. They did live
next door to us growing up, so

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she was one of the main figures
in my life, but no, she

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was never in the house. I
guess. So, my little brother has

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a spirit box. And if you're
not familiar with a spirit box, what

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that is? This thing that scans
radio frequencies, like super fast radio stations

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and you get little snippets of words, and you get little snippets of songs,

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and she'd try to hear something and
all that static. And he had

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one of those, and he let
my mom borrow it, and we were

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just sitting there just having a conversation
while this thing was running, which is

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very hard to do because it's very
annoying. It kept saying Pete, Pete,

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Pete, Pete, and we were
like, what the hell is Pete?

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You know who's at Then like a
week later, I met someone named

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Pete and I ended up marrying him, So I thought that was kind of

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interesting, and I don't I definitely
when I met him, was like,

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oh, Pete. I just just
had had experience with that with a spirit

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box, so that was in my
mind kind so it was like already faded

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almost And then another time, a
lot of these involved my mother, so

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I just think she's very in tune
with things. I was watching her dogs

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at my current house, and we
kept them downstairs because they were a little

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bit rambunctious, so we kind of
like put them behind a baby gate and

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kept them in the lower level of
our house while we slept, just because

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we didn't want them wandering through the
house and doing weird stuff while we were

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sleeping. I slept with my own
dogs and in the bed, and I

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woke up because and these are pugs, so they're not like aggressive dogs.

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They're just little lap animals basically.
And one of my pugs was scrowling with

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her hair standing up on the back
of her neck, and she was just

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really tense. And I heard the
snarling come rumbling up the steps, and

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these hard footsteps just pounding up the
steps, and this is like horrible snarling,

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and it sounded demonic like it was
a horrible sound. And my husband

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woke up and we looked at each
other and we both, let's never talk

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about this again. I got up
to check to make sure that the dogs

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were downstairs and they were they were
sleeping like so, I don't know what

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thundered up the stairs. But I've
always blamed my mother for that one because

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I just feel like wherever she goes, she brings these energies. I just

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felt like she had dropped off not
only her dogs, but something else too,

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dropped off another guest. So that
was Yeah, So there was things

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happening in your family home and then
this happened in your present home. Yes,

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And I don't know if things are
following or if there's always something somewhere,

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you know what I mean, And
you just have to be listening to

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hear it. My husband, he's
very in tune too, and I just

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feel like things follow certain people.
No, I agree, Yeah, does

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happened. We do get latches on
now and again. In your house,

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you had the little boys laughed or
wasn't it. Yeah, it was a

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child's laugh. I don't know if
it was a boy or not. It

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was just a high pitched little kids
laugh. And we had no small children

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in our family at that time.
My sister was home and she was in

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the living room, and so the
footsteps would have ran towards the living room

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and I busted out of there and
I was like, hey, did you

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hear anything? And she's just looked
at me like I was crazy. She

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was sitting there watching TV. You're
playing a video game I can't remember,

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and she was just like, no, go away. And that was the

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only time you heard the child.
Yeah, you know, things that do

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happen in the houses way, it
would just be like a like a one

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off, like it's a traveling spirit
maybe just stopping by this passing through they

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do. You know. I lived
my last house. I lived next to

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a guy and he actually later told
me that he was a medium in that

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do would tell me he was.
He'd come home from work one day,

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it was about four in the afternoon
and he just came home of flakedown a

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couch as you do with the hard
day's work, and he said he opened

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his eyes and there was a woman
stood in front of him wearing a long

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red dress, as real as anything, he would say, and he said,

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I've never seen her before, and
I've never seen us into just one

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off occurrence. That's interesting. Yeah, I definitely think that that kind of

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thing, I mean, doesn't need
to be repeatable for it to be real.

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You know what I just think that, yeah, they might pass through,

410
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:17.440
And you saying that reminded me of
something else actually I used to have.

411
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:22.480
And I'm assuming this is all just
sleep paralysis and little strange visions that

412
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.160
come with that, but they might
not be anything paranormal. But I would

413
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.319
quite often get sleep paralysis and I'd
wake up and I couldn't move, but

414
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:34.599
I could see strange things. Most
often it would be a spider lowering onto

415
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:37.359
my face, but there were times
there'd be someone laying in bed next to

416
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.839
me and I did not have anyone
laying next to me physically, or there'd

417
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.480
be someone standing in my corner and
stuff like that, And I had one

418
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.680
This is the stupidest one, this
is the most bizarre one, and it's

419
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.799
not scary, it's just stupid.
A door opened up on my wall and

420
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.960
a drone came out and dropped batteries
on my face. You know, some

421
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:02.759
of these experiences are horrifying, like
the person in bed with me, or

422
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:04.480
like standing in the corner or the
spider, But then some of them are

423
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:08.359
just like why would my brain do
that? You know? So I'd wake

424
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.400
up and I couldn't move, but
I could see these things and I was

425
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:17.440
awake because I would end up screaming. I think I was awake by the

426
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:18.720
time I got with my husband.
I feel like I was on the tail

427
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.880
end of the sleep paralysis, Like
I haven't had this in probably five years,

428
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:26.519
And I don't know if that's because
like I'm on different medication now,

429
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.400
or if just the time has passed
for that. I want to say I

430
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:33.440
was awake because I could see the
room clearly and I was having You know

431
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.960
how in a dream, were such
something really scary happens, you usually wake

432
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:42.000
up. This wouldn't stop the scary, The scariness would just intensify and intensify,

433
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:45.160
and if you couldn't get out of
it. I think that's what's differentiating

434
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.880
it from a dream for me,
because usually in my dreams, if something

435
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.759
scary happens, like a fall or
a shock or like a jump, scary

436
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.039
even you, I wake up And
when these the person in the corner was

437
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.599
not going away, and my horror
was just mounting and mounting. Yeah.

438
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:03.680
Yeah, when I was a kid, I used to have some horrific nightmares.

439
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:06.880
It's the weirdest thing. I used
to get what you just said there

440
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:11.279
about got scared and you've woken up. Well, I would get scared and

441
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.160
not wake up. Oh that's horrible. It would be a new dream though

442
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.119
it would be scary. Something horrific
would happen and go straight into the next

443
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:22.400
dream and then it start over again. Really scared me when I was a

444
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.480
kid, though it doesn't happen now, not now I'm an adult. But

445
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:29.559
that's interesting. That would make me
feel very like trapped, like you can't

446
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:32.720
get out. Just another dream starts, and like what if that's just as

447
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:37.759
scary as the first one, Like
it's almost that's very a labyrinthing, almost,

448
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.480
absolutely, Yeah, Just some of
them were very very bizarre, that's

449
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.400
to say, at least a couple
of things. So when you were saying

450
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:48.279
about the spirit box and you're saying, the words are coming up was Pete,

451
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.880
Pete, Pete. It makes you
wonder if that was maybe like a

452
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:56.160
premonition predicting the future, or maybe
because you were thinking about it, you

453
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.720
created your own future. Right.
Yeah, I think about that too.

454
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.480
I really believe in like synchronicity and
stuff like that. Just I have a

455
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.240
lot of just strange things. You'll
be thinking of someone and then they call

456
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.119
stuff like that and you get a
lot of those in your life. I

457
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.960
do. Yeah, synchronicity has always
been really important to me, and for

458
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:15.160
a long time I didn't have a
name for it, so I would just

459
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:19.279
call it like a convergence. That's
strange, things were coming together in a

460
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:23.720
way that they weren't usually. And
now I call it synchronicity because I think

461
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:29.799
that's the most accurate term for what
I experience. Actually, this week,

462
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.240
I'm getting eleven eleven every times,
where I just briefly look at talk and

463
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:36.839
then it'd be sure enough, eleven
eleven. And I know I've done an

464
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:40.960
episode about eleven eleven and to do
with synchronicities and time and all that stuff.

465
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.039
But that's what I'm getting this week. So I asked, Yeah,

466
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:45.960
when things I get like that,
I write them down. Oh absolutely,

467
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.599
And I find that a lot of
times I look for meaning and things,

468
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:53.319
and a lot of times I think
the meaning itself is just, hey,

469
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.720
you're noticing things, and that's that's
the meaning. You know, there's no

470
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.759
deeper like, oh, eleven eleven, something's going to happen to you.

471
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.440
It's just that it's the universe kind
of like tipping its hat to you.

472
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.519
You know what I mean, hey, it's you know, something you're noticing.

473
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.759
I agree. I agree. So
I've always said, you know,

474
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.039
you should definitely make a note when
you when things had this happen, and

475
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:17.680
there might be something for it.
A lot like you just said, it's

476
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:22.160
just the universe telling you, hey, you're noticing. Absolutely. Yeah,

477
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:23.519
I need to do a better job
of writing things down. I would like

478
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:27.279
to like dream journals, so I
said, I'm a lazy person, but

479
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.680
I just think I would benefit from
that. And they say that that helps

480
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.759
you remember your dreams better too.
I definitely need to get more organized mentally

481
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:40.279
and all aspects of my life,
and I just I just need to get

482
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:42.480
organized. I definitely would like to
start keeping in the track of these things.

483
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:45.680
Yeah, it's always a good idea, Stephanie. I really appreciate you

484
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.680
coming on sharing that for our listeners. Yeah, anytime, anytime. Take

485
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:52.680
care and I will speak you soon. All right, have a great day

486
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.680
and you enjoy the rest of your
morning. Thank you, Okay, bye

487
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:08.920
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492
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free in Google Play and the iOS
app store. Hello Lincoln, welcome to

493
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.839
the show. Hi, Nick Joker. I'm very good, thank you,

494
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:50.839
and you're calling from Sheffield, South
Yorkshire and United Kingdom. I am indeed

495
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:54.839
it's my new adoptive home to last
thirty years, so I'm a Lancashire added

496
00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:00.640
part that I've moved over to Yorkshire. Wonderful. Now, Lincoln, you

497
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.440
have an experience you're going to be
sharing with us. Would you like to

498
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:07.279
start at beginning please, sir?
Yeah? Absolutely, Nick, So yeah,

499
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:12.319
I couldn't live in Sheffield South Orchard
with my family. I'm almost fifty

500
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.680
fifty next year, got a good
job, nice family. But I didn't

501
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.880
always crawl up here. I've been
here about thirty years kemy of university,

502
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:24.119
but as it grew up in a
really remote place called Chipping in Lancashire,

503
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:30.480
and probably for American or Australian listeners
it's not really that remote. But if

504
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:32.480
you were to look on a matter
the UK, it is in the middle

505
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:37.160
of norwhere as we'd say in the
UK Chippings in the middle of Lancashire.

506
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:42.319
It's in the middle of the electrical
borough of the Ribel Valley. So to

507
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.359
the north there's nothing really for about
thirty miles and see you get to Lancaster.

508
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:51.039
If you were to go west in
the village there's a couple of little

509
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.799
villages, probably ten miles where an
eventually you'll hit Blackpool on the west coast.

510
00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.400
To the east you've probably got pressed
in probably probably a bit southeast,

511
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:06.319
but again that's twelve fifteen miles away
and there's there's not a great deal to

512
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:07.679
the sell either. So if you
look on the math, it's very much

513
00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:13.519
in the middle of nowhere. Now
Chipping there's a funny players, especially growing

514
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.920
up there, because there's a kid
when you were little it was brilliant.

515
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:22.239
You literally went out all day in
the morning and you came back beauty and

516
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:27.039
see your parents literally as the sun
was going down. There's play out all

517
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:31.039
there. Quite a strange person that
people still burn coal where coal is the

518
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:35.599
main fuel. So if you were
to go on a bit of a foggy

519
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:39.079
day. The cold sort of emphasizes
the fog and there's literally like a haze.

520
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:44.599
Sattle of the bridge literally seeks into
the streets, but generally because everyone's

521
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:49.639
still burning coal and coal players.
It's also that old this plays called chipping

522
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.360
that it's in the doomsday book.
Now for those who don't know what the

523
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:58.360
doomsday books, it's just the census. I think that happened in the eleventh

524
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.199
century, happened in ten eighty five
or something like that, and shipping is

525
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:06.679
actually mentioned in the doomsday books.
So it's been around for over a thousand

526
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.679
years. As to the village,
and these days it's more popular with fell

527
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:15.159
walkers. Some of fellies like the
range of hills that surround the village.

528
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.239
Again the more like Morlands really,
but we've got a lot of fell walkers

529
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.440
and a lot of side book.
As I sort of hit my teen years,

530
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:24.400
my mates hit our teen years,
there wasn't a great deal to do.

531
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:30.119
So quite often our evenings before we
had sport to college the next day

532
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.920
or go to work at the weekends
in the waals of restaurants was usually we

533
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.320
wait till my mum has gone to
bed, and then literally invade my mom's

534
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:44.880
front room, and our evenings generally
consisted of watching Channel four things like video

535
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:49.840
DRAMs That Don't Know That was a
really good like film program presented by g

536
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:53.519
called Alex Cox, who'd we present
and critique some of the more edgy movies

537
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:58.800
like Rumble Fish or They Lived By
John Carpin's Who All the Things? Or

538
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.320
a Skirt from New York or I
was on and that was generally our ninth

539
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:07.280
entertainments and bearing my mom's front room
watching videos on euro Trash could also remember

540
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:12.519
it, and things like Prisoner of
Celbocach, which seemed to be on every

541
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.519
single night. So the Audie program
of that load of women prisoners. I'm

542
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:21.079
quite an expert on what they go
by the pult And this was probably in

543
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:24.800
the early nineties, when I was
between sixteen and eighteen, so we're talking

544
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:30.519
nineteen ninety nineteen ninety two, because
this was a bit of further background.

545
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:32.519
When we moved into this house in
the in the late eighties, it was

546
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.800
it was one of the really quiet, cooldest back on a council estate that

547
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.039
they've built in the village. So
this isn't like an inner city council estate.

548
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.159
It's quite a night councilor estate.
And we had we had a big

549
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:52.159
four bedroom house minimum and my two
sisters and I distinctly remember about eighty eighty

550
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:59.559
five eighty seven my dad planting a
sealers of really big commisser trees around the

551
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.760
perimeter of the house, so the
house it's slightly raised up from the cool

552
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.280
dest side road. Big searchle war
going around the house covered pretty much the

553
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:12.000
entire house. Planted lord of conifers. They were pretty big when he put

554
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:15.760
them in, but by the time
I was sixteen to eighteen, these conifers

555
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:21.280
were probably twenty five foot high.
I had all knitted together like Conniffer's do.

556
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.039
And to stop them we had to
get the ladders out. So really

557
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:30.079
thick, warm of trees around the
perimeter of the house, sort of hiding

558
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.320
the house from the road really,
which is sort of important really, I'll

559
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:37.559
get to that in a bit.
So actual incident Nate is a strange one

560
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:43.679
because my memory of it disappeared for
years and years and years, and only

561
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.960
all of that maybe the the last
ten years as the memory of resurfaced,

562
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:52.559
not being particularly sinister or disturbing,
but it was a really weird event that

563
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:58.280
happened in my mum's house while I
was stat with my best may growing up,

564
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:00.920
and we were just having one of
these standard nights and watching Channel for

565
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:06.360
very late night programs. So it's
probably about one or two two o'clock in

566
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:10.320
the morning, and I have no
memory of this thing actually started, but

567
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:16.559
I just suddenly became aware that the
room was bathed in really bright light.

568
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:21.639
And I can't remember if it was
just a white light or whether it was

569
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:27.480
almost like streaky yellow lights. And
you know how sort of diamonds cats the

570
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:31.599
light and they've got those light sparklers
on. I've got a vague memory of

571
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:37.599
like yellow streaks of light, really
bright sparks coming off them, as if

572
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:40.599
they were glinting in the sun.
But obviously the words it was just light.

573
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.760
But the light was so bright in
the room, and it was it

574
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:50.880
was accompanied by a really heavy groaning
noise, almost as if there was a

575
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:54.360
huge machine outside the house that was
idling away. Again, I'll come onto

576
00:38:54.400 --> 00:39:00.320
that a bit later and how I
got that description. But when I was

577
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:04.760
sat in the arm chair, it
was late at night, really heavy curtains

578
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.000
drawn in the room. My promise
to my left so he was stared in

579
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:12.159
the windows, and I was right
into the window in the arm chair,

580
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:16.760
facing the telly and the cold fire, and my eyes were fixed like a

581
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:23.199
dagger on the curtains basically. For
it's almost like I became aware this thing

582
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:28.599
was happening in my consciousness kicked in
for a short time and really weird.

583
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:32.960
My eyes were fixed on the on
the curtains, and there was obviously really

584
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.119
bright light in the room and this
drawning noise, And the first thing that

585
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.559
cropped up in my head was what
had been men doing here at this time

586
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:45.159
at night? So for as the
dog or probably American listeners have been many

587
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.639
you refused to act's garbage collectors.
Now, it definitely wasn't then because you

588
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:52.480
had a hard job than coming out
when they were meant to come out during

589
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.360
the week even nine at two us
flock in the morning, probably on a

590
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:58.719
week night or on the weekend.
So I knew in the back of my

591
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:01.920
mind it wasn't then. But that's
the first thing that crossed my mind.

592
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:06.480
Is it the bin men outside?
No? Right, it's not the ben

593
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.679
Mann If it's the cons for the
Council in the UK, every now and

594
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:14.800
again come and do road works things
like that, and they quite often bring

595
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:17.639
a big truck with them with big
flashing lights on the top stop people crashing

596
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:22.159
into the truck. But I knew
it wasn't simply because if that has been

597
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:27.239
happening at that time of night,
the entire village would have been out wondering

598
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:31.360
what hell was going on. It's
a really really quiet place, and so

599
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:35.719
yeah, sort of immediately broke got
out though you know, it's not the

600
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:37.960
council either. It would certainly not
the been met. No. I thought,

601
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:43.360
maybe there's a helicopter hovering above the
house. But again it wasn't helicopter,

602
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.960
simply because if a helicopter had have
been there, again, the entire

603
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:51.119
village would have been out investigating what
was happening at that time in the morning.

604
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:55.400
And rationally, why would a helicopter
be hovering over my bub's house at

605
00:40:55.480 --> 00:41:00.199
that time in the morning, shining
the brightest light you've ever seen through the

606
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.760
living room windows. It would have
had a good job maneuvering to that,

607
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:09.480
never mind actually doing it. So
I can certainly send it what it wasn't.

608
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:15.159
But I did have this really nagging
feeling all the time is why aren't

609
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:21.480
I getting up and booshing what's outside? And it wasn't key to fear.

610
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:25.039
I just couldn't quite put a finger
on why I wasn't investigating it. There

611
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:30.000
had no comfort. My friends sat
to more left at all at this stage,

612
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:35.519
and he was facing the window or
so, god knows what he was

613
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:39.639
instincting it the starm either. So
that was really an incident, and I

614
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:45.039
have no recollection of it starting,
and I have no recollection of it ending

615
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.639
either, or is going to bed
or of the next day really, but

616
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:53.800
obviously life goes on, so I'm
still here, and I seem to remember

617
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:59.039
the next day. At some point
we did talk about it passing. He

618
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.119
said, God, that's a bit
weird last night, wasn't it. Almost

619
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:07.039
I could slip of the funds and
many went. I know him spoke about

620
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:13.360
it, but probably twenty five years
after that. So that happened when I

621
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:17.199
was in my lighteen stick and we
had a reunion in our forties. So

622
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:21.360
none of us, none of us
live in the village anymore, but we

623
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:25.360
all descended on the village in our
in our bit forties to basically have a

624
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.159
good session down the law of clubs
on the on the bodings and bitter and

625
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:36.480
reminiscing that old times. And because
I've started to remember what had happened to

626
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.280
us when we were a lot younger, I mentioned to him on this night

627
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:44.760
out and I said, remember the
bright light and my what was come through

628
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:46.519
when we were growing up, And
he said, yeah, of course I

629
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:51.320
do. And I said, why
didn't we Why didn't he investigate what it

630
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.679
was? And all we said to
me was because we couldn't move a muscle.

631
00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.159
He said, we were just completely
frozen. That's why we couldn't get

632
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.239
up to see what was outside.
And then the penny orders dropped them.

633
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.320
Is that my eyes when this thing
was going on, the completely fixed on

634
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:13.639
the curtains to my right, And
I'd been vague thoughts going through my head

635
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.480
for a short period of time,
trained to process what was looked outside,

636
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:22.039
and all the way through the event, I had the impressions of the light

637
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.960
was coming in through the heavy comicer
tree at the bottom of the garden and

638
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.000
also through the heavy curtains that were
in the room. If you looked out

639
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:35.679
of the window any night and a
car came with the road, you'd see

640
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.920
a bit of diffused light through the
comics through that pick. They didn't find

641
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:44.400
any light through whatsoever. Yet what
we went through the light, the room

642
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:49.000
was completely based in light. And
the penny dropped that the reason why my

643
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:53.079
eyes were just fixed firmly on the
curtains and I was literally just sat there

644
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:59.400
closly because I couldn't move and the
fall and it took twenty five years.

645
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:04.400
My mate confirmed that to say,
yeah, we we just clear the muscle.

646
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:07.559
We were all completely paralyzed. And
he must have been looking at me,

647
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:13.639
I presume, and also looking direct
with the window where I sat underneath

648
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.679
in the arms sat so as I
say, the memories come back over the

649
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:22.599
last ten years or so, and
it really started to spoke me out to

650
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.559
me about what happened that day,
being honest nick at all, particularly one

651
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.239
once joining further about what it was
and more than happy to live in blissful

652
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:37.239
ignorance. But it also really spoked
to me about what the noise was,

653
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:42.079
this really heavy droning noise. Could
almost hear it in your body. It's

654
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.199
got a good consort, we've got
a good face spin, you know.

655
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.559
It almost shakes your body when you
when the base kicks in. It was

656
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:54.119
almost like that really deep basic growning
the noise, and I couldn't quite put

657
00:44:54.239 --> 00:45:00.800
things on it. So I've listened
to it to podcasts and the healthy step

658
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:04.159
of let's say, and one of
the one of the ones that did it

659
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:07.480
for me was listening to Terry Lovelets, who was the American chap who had

660
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:13.480
the incident of Devil's ten in the
US where he woke up in his tent

661
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:19.199
after some very weird occurrences with his
with his mate Tony and there was really

662
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.639
bright flashing lights outside. She took
to be a part ranger, but he

663
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:29.039
said, it's the bright lights outside
were company by a really heavy roll.

664
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:35.559
It sounded like a steam engine idling
before before it was almost put into fly

665
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:39.679
or gear. And it just think
to me, I'd got it that sat

666
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:45.400
of description of what I was hearing
on that night. So I ended up

667
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:50.639
writing to Terry, who thought him
a quick email told him it was quite

668
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.360
a bit eyed experience, or I
think it's quite benid experience, and looking

669
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:58.360
quite what he went to and so
brought me a lovely email back asking the

670
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:02.400
various questions which really answered because I've
got a very short memory of what happened

671
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:07.880
that night, well, that's it, Nick, Really is just this memory

672
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:14.320
that researchers score for about ten years
and meeting and a friends being paralyzed in

673
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:19.119
the months from room bathed in white
light with a really heavy groaning noise going

674
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.800
on. And another thing to probably
mentioned before before our clothes or got to

675
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:28.599
your questions, Nick, is that
nobody in the village mentioned it. And

676
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:34.400
it's kind of place is that if
I don't know, there's been a minor

677
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:37.559
car bomb or some graffiti found on
have been Nick, the army would have

678
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:44.440
been called in because of that quiet, but nobody watching this incident happened on

679
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:47.760
that nobody mentioned at halicops are hovering
over the village or anything like that.

680
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.360
So yeah, that's my story,
really interesting, interesting stuff. Having,

681
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.920
you know, having lived in a
small village in Warwickshire many years ago,

682
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.199
I know if if anything happens,
it's the talk at the village. Everyone

683
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:05.599
knows everything. I'm sure it's like
that all around the world, but we

684
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:10.199
definitely think that there is that you
tend to know everybody else's business. This

685
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:16.480
place is is that remote pig that
after midnight the village is definitely quiet.

686
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:22.960
It's so quiet you can hear a
car approaching from I don't know my way,

687
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:27.000
just because the sound carries off the
really quiet village. You've got the

688
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:31.480
odd powel boots and obviously the weather. Yeah, there's nothing and really strange

689
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:37.159
that golbody mentioned this instance the next
day, and even more important in it

690
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.159
we can mention it to anybody else
or ask any any searching questions about what

691
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:44.480
happened at night. Very strange.
Like you said, you know your five

692
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:46.840
plants and all those conifers, and
you know they can they can block out

693
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:51.519
a lot of light. Been ben, Yeah, I mean that's it's just

694
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.320
not the kind of time they end
up driving around. What about something like

695
00:47:54.360 --> 00:48:00.400
a combine harvester A combined answer potentially
could have could have been a the back

696
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.320
of the house make which was which
was at that time the old built houses

697
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.679
on it. But again the lights
wouldn't have penetrated from the back of the

698
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.320
house to the front of the house. It's quite the cow, all the

699
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:15.119
doors, the claws, so just
by pure science, virtual lights from the

700
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:21.280
combined artist out the back of the
house couldn't have done that to the room.

701
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:23.679
Front of the house are living rooms
for light, which which we tend

702
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:28.320
to refer to as the front room
or be here, And yeah, it's

703
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:32.440
odd that the first thing that went
through my mind was trying to work out

704
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:37.280
what it was. And actually my
perception was that the lights coming through the

705
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:42.800
curtains make where Actually it was looking
back, it wasn't at all. The

706
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.440
entire room was just based in light. So I can only assume that the

707
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:50.360
entire house, with faith in light, and who knows, the entire village

708
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:53.800
may be based in light. But
I'm surmizing there because I'm never got uposs

709
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:59.599
the arm chair to look. And
actually I couldn't work out at the time,

710
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:04.000
why aren't I getting up to see
what's outside? And it's only when

711
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:09.159
my baby years later said to me, we couldn't do wasn't even literally paralyzed

712
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:15.559
on the penydrop Dick on why I
didn't get up to investigate? But I

713
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:17.639
didn't at the time. I did
have a really nagly doubt, why aren't

714
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:22.039
I getting up to see its outside? But it's a false perception, Dick.

715
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.360
The light wasn't coming in through the
churchings. The light was a good

716
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:30.880
room, Dick. It's really hard
to explain the room was based in the

717
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:35.519
light. Quite quite strange. Really, it's very peculiar. And plus there

718
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:38.199
was you know, there was two
of you and neither of you could move,

719
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:42.480
you know, neither of you could
get out. Yeah, and actually

720
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.239
I'd love to speak when further about
it, but it's just for some reason,

721
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:52.599
it just doesn't crop up as a
conversation point when we're together, other

722
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:57.039
than during our evening in our mid
forties when I decided to ask them about

723
00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:00.519
it, and he just came straight
out with it. Yes, of course

724
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:02.920
I remember it, and i'd actually
it'd be really good to talk to him

725
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:07.159
about what his perception wasn't it,
because he he was facing me in placing

726
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:12.639
the windows, and it'd be really
interesting that his duti what I was doing

727
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.719
at that time, if you can
remember, I'll have to maybe pick his

728
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:19.519
brains on that one. You know, you wouldn't be on you know,

729
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:22.920
you wouldn't be here now if it
was just headlights coming through a window.

730
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:29.000
He knows that something definitely strange happened
to you. Yeah, it did,

731
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:34.360
and I don't think there's any anything
sinister about it, Nick, But my

732
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:38.320
memory of it is really sketchy.
I can't remember it's starting, I can't

733
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:45.239
remember it ending it's almost like my
consciousness or ten percent of my consciousness to

734
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:51.119
say put in mid incidents to i'mor
to think what the hell is that?

735
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:55.039
And then I started to try and
pocess it. But I have no memory

736
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:59.280
of going to bed, Nick,
I don't one dare blurs into another.

737
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:04.039
But yeah, especially that night,
that is the only thing I remember that

738
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:09.239
short segments of the bright light and
the droning noise and me trying to process

739
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:15.000
it, and it was almost like
a click of the fingers basically the memory.

740
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.440
We sort of there, and then
it went for years and years and

741
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:23.400
years, and it slowly resurfaced in
my mind, which has prompted me to

742
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:28.320
do a touch of investigation into what
it is, and also prompted me on

743
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:30.599
the reunion to say, for me, do you remember what happened to us

744
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.599
at night? And he just came
straight out with it. Yes, of

745
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.599
course I remember, and it told
me. It told me why we didn't

746
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:42.559
move, And he put that nagging
down to bed about why didn't we get

747
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.920
up and just see what was outside? And if it was something natural,

748
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:51.480
Nick, or you know, helicopter
or the consaw or the been men,

749
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:53.840
which trust me, it couldn't have
been that the light just couldn't have got

750
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:58.320
into the room like it did.
The entire village would have been out with

751
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:02.320
pitts, forks and flaming brow Nick
demanding the head of test and counsel for

752
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:07.239
waking them up at that time,
And none of that happens. Nobody mentioned

753
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:12.119
it really strange, and this is
a case of you don't really want to

754
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:15.000
know, but you do want to
know. Yeah, I think it is.

755
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:19.079
Actually I think it's it's just just
sort of trying to process it.

756
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.400
Really, I'm not concerned about it, and it's had no long lasting effects.

757
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.559
Somebody howpsy I think those clauses in
they disagree with that. Nick,

758
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:30.280
There you go. But yeah,
I think it's just a really curious incident

759
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:35.480
that I can't explain. And especially
the paralysis as well. That was so

760
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:38.800
weird. And I didn't actually know
about the prolysis for twenty five years.

761
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:44.440
But my memory is just that my
eyes been fixed on a set point,

762
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:47.400
my thought process kicking you if you
like, and trying to process was what

763
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:52.320
was happening. So yeah, I've
done a bit of research and other people

764
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:57.440
have experienced similar things. Nick,
Well, I can only assume it was

765
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:01.480
something designed to keep us very passive. And that's really as far as I

766
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:06.800
want to go with it. Really, I bothered Nick about what the what

767
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:10.440
the peripheral stuff was, or why
I can't remember going to bed or anything

768
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:15.920
like that. It doesn't really bother
me, but it'd be great to know

769
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:20.960
what was what was outside the house
that day or what Probably more accurate,

770
00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:25.559
I sort of got a feeling with
the sort of the sound and the and

771
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:30.320
the way the light was what was
above the house or Nick. It was

772
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:35.199
almost I almost not perception that something
above the house. It was very big

773
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:38.639
and very powerful. And that's my
my lasting perception. If you like the

774
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:43.679
memory, and can you describe the
sound again, Yeah, it was it

775
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:47.480
was almost loud. Well, it
was almost like if you went to a

776
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:54.320
train station and you were taking a
trip on an old steam railway. Forget

777
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:59.719
about the actual sound of the steam
and steam escaping from a railway, but

778
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:06.599
the actual power that's in the big
iron engine on the front of the carriage's

779
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:09.239
neck, you know, the deep
power you can perceive from that machine.

780
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:14.079
It was almost like that. Really, it just had the impression of something

781
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:20.320
really big and really powerful and something
in almost neutral gear. So it was

782
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:24.599
almost like a constant droning noise,
but it was that deep and that powerful

783
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:30.039
you could almost feel it in your
brown or in your muscle, or whether

784
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:35.000
it was almost like almost like streaks
of light in the room with these diamonds,

785
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:38.239
you know, light points coming off
it. But either way, it

786
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:44.760
was ridiculously bright, saw ridiculously bright
that I just couldn't at the time.

787
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:46.480
I just couldn't quite get my head
around it. Still don't know what it

788
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:50.840
is, and they can. We'd
be just getting into some eyes, really,

789
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.880
but I know that other people have
experienced something very similar. It was

790
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:59.360
interesting looking back at my thought processes
as well. It was almost like there

791
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:02.800
was about percent of its function at
the time, but it's just enough for

792
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:07.599
me to think, what on earth
is that? And there a start by

793
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:09.440
enos laws, but it was,
but I have no memory of it under

794
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:13.519
the sassay or going to bed.
But yeah, I'm still here, Nick,

795
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:15.239
so it can't have been too bad. Indeed, it kind of been

796
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:19.719
too bad. Well, you know, we're for the call out for any

797
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:23.039
listeners. If you vaguely remember anything
happening to you or maybe you heard of

798
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:29.079
something, get in contact and hopefully
you know someone else experienced this as well.

799
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:32.840
Well, that'd be part Chipping Lanks, Nick, Lancashire, and it'd

800
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:37.320
be really interesting if someone else from
the village got good grief. I remember

801
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:39.800
that as well. I think we
had the advantage or disadvantage Nick, of

802
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:45.519
always being really late as teenagers in
bed in my mum's pump room and watching

803
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.239
bask stuff on Channel four till the
early hours in the morning, so we

804
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.719
were aware and this instant probably happened
about one or two in the morning,

805
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:58.480
really really sort of late. But
yeah, I've never heard anyone else mention

806
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:01.639
it in passing, so yeah,
there's really good to noise someone else that's

807
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:05.320
turns to say. I mean,
of course during those days, you know,

808
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:07.719
in the night is that is exactly
what teenage was doing. They were

809
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:12.320
in the living room. What's in
South block age and euro trash especially.

810
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.920
Yeah, so the dast hours in
the morning and probably the things you shouldn't

811
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.840
have been doing as we drinking the
odds bear And then because you were young,

812
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:22.280
you used to be able to get
up school in his farm on,

813
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:25.920
jump straight to college from next fair
without care in the world. Yeah,

814
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.280
and there wasn't a great at that
time, so yeah, It was a

815
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:35.079
pretty regular repair in three or four
times a week, and just so happened.

816
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:37.800
It was me and my best friend
growing up who were in the room

817
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:42.559
at this particular time when the incident
happened, But at any given time that

818
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:45.239
there could have been four others in
the room. But yeah, just me

819
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:47.239
and my best mat growing up.
That happens to You know, you don't

820
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.840
have to answer this if you don't
want to. What do you think happened?

821
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:54.039
It would just be a pure guest. I can only assume something really

822
00:56:54.079 --> 00:57:00.360
big was above the house because of
the way it felt. That's section,

823
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:06.360
and I can only assume it was
it was something to knock out the people

824
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:10.800
of the village. Really for whatever
reason. It just so happens. That

825
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:15.440
certainly my mate, because he remembers
it, He was obviously conscious for a

826
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:20.360
portion of it, and I was
obviously conscious for a portion of it.

827
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:24.920
I sink on the curtains, not
moving, wondering what on earth is outside.

828
00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:30.079
So yeah, that's the only thing
I can think. It was something

829
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:36.320
designed to knock us out. Nick. And whether the consciousness bits happened right

830
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:40.039
at the start of the incident or
mid incident towards the end I haven't the

831
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:45.239
foggiest idea because I didn't have any
perception of the time at the time.

832
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:50.119
It could it could have lasted for
me being aware, I could have lasted

833
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:53.400
for thirty seconds, five minutes,
ten minutes. I haven't turned to side

834
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:58.519
in it. Have you thought about
maybe checking any records to see if there

835
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.440
was any sis in the area that
that night. No, but I will

836
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:05.800
do actually, yeah, a good
shout that there. I'll do a bit

837
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:08.119
of digging on that one, if
anyone saw anything on that night. Yeah,

838
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:13.599
it's I'm not necessarily talking about the
village itself, but maybe in the

839
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:15.639
surrounding areas, because you're not.
I don't think it was too far from

840
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:20.119
from the moors, all right?
Well yeah, really on the moors,

841
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.840
which which actually later we called the
Fells Nick. So there's there's a really

842
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:28.119
big hill at the back of the
village called Harley. And actually we're not

843
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:32.320
too far from Pendle Hill. Where
did you see which trials back in the

844
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:37.400
in the day and the Lord of
Innocent well potentially innocent people got homes for

845
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:42.639
the witches. So if I was
to look outside Bedron with door, Harley

846
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:50.039
could be over to go four miles
away a really big bill and you've then

847
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:54.440
got a really long bridge hill nick
called check Wheel, which is near the

848
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.440
town of one Bridge, which was
named by the Normans because it was a

849
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:05.320
long bridge. And beyond beyond Jeff
the hill see Pendle Hill, which is

850
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:09.440
a really distinctive hill that's got like
a really odd shaped drop off at the

851
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:15.000
end. It's really distinctive Pendle Hill. So Chipping sat very much in a

852
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:21.480
valley and with the hills probably five
miles away, but when you're on top

853
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:23.320
of one of the hills, you
can literally see Chipping bang in the middle

854
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:30.280
of the bounty with nothing else there
surrounded by hills are probably five miles away

855
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:35.599
from the village as a cross wide
Pendle Hill, which I remember watching that

856
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:37.440
one there was I think it is
most haunted that went up to Pendle Hill.

857
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:40.639
Well, I think for a few
walks away. It's not really my

858
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:45.559
net of the woodsite and it's I
tended to be around the cells of the

859
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:49.639
near us and every now and a
kind of climb parlike literally take me two

860
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:52.280
hours to get up there. It's
a big hill and from the top of

861
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:55.599
the hill and you can see Blackpool. You see right across Manchester, which

862
00:59:55.719 --> 01:00:00.280
is probably forty miles away, so
you can see the Iris se as well

863
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:02.079
orthor by Blackpool. Yeah, it's
a lovely part of the world. Actually,

864
01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:07.000
next if any Wristeners want to a
lovely weekend to where with the partner

865
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:09.840
or the kids, haven't think about
Chipping in Lancaster. Beautiful part of the

866
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:15.400
country. I did spend about six
months living up in Bolton. Yeah,

867
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:19.440
yeah, Greater Manchester and it's sort
of the old Lanester really, isn't it

868
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:24.000
still within the classes lean through and
they're paly Greater Manchester, so yeah,

869
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:29.039
Chipping's probably bile beans. Please have
a look at it on the back stick.

870
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:31.920
It's once you zooming you realize how
the revolts it is. And the

871
01:00:32.360 --> 01:00:37.840
dearest little towns probably five of miles
where where I was at school. But

872
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:42.719
if you go north there's nothing really
until you get to Lancaster, which west.

873
01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:46.000
There's a small town of gas standing
when you get to Blackpool. But

874
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:51.440
it really is in the stix as
we say over here. Yeah, I

875
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.199
would probably yes, if you can
see any possible reports and you know that

876
01:00:54.360 --> 01:01:00.519
kind of time frame to be honest, as far out as Preston and probably

877
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:04.079
back up to the Dales because yeah, it's a you've got quite a big

878
01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:07.639
area there. It is remote and
just you know, something might turn up,

879
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:10.719
something might not, but you know
it's always worth a try. Yeah,

880
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:15.840
we'll do it, Lincoln. I
really appreciate you coming on and sharing

881
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:20.159
that for our listeners. Yeah talking
about that's great. All right, You

882
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:22.559
enjoyed the rest of your day and
I will speak soon to you. Nick.

883
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:28.880
Absolutely take care of yourself. That
is all for this episode. Keep

884
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:32.920
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885
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:37.519
have an encounter that you'd like to
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886
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:42.480
me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot
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887
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:46.920
me via the contact page on my
website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A

888
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:51.760
big thank you to Stephanie and Lincoln
for sharing tonight, and as always,

889
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:54.719
thank you all for listening. I
will be back next week. Till then,

890
01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:59.880
stay safe and keep watching the Skies. Goodbye,