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This show is produced and hosted by
Mark Webber. The show is sponsored by

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G three Aparo. The views expressed
in the following program are those of the

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sponsor and not necessarily the opinion of
seven ten wor or iHeartMedia. Who is

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Mark Weber. He's a self made
business executive here to help you find your

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success, from the New York City
projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris.

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His global success story in the luxury
world of fashion is inspirational. He's gone

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from clerk to CEO twice. Mark
is classic proof that the American dream is

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alive. And well, here's your
host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber.

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Mark Weber, I have always been
recursive. I tell you this not

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to tell you that I don't like
humans, which I don't, but I'll

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share this with you to make a
point. I spend more time alone than

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most people, which enables me to
spend more time on me. I get

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to choose how I spend my time. I get to do what I want

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to do, which is I get
to observe people, places, things,

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life. I spend time listening,
and more importantly, I hear I'm not

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a great conversationalist unless I'm talking about
that which really interests me. And then

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again, unless I'm really zeroed in
on what you're saying, I'm just nodding

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my head, making believe I am
actually paying attention to you. But when

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something said is relevant to me,
I hear it, file it, never

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forget it. I also read a
lot. I mean a lot. I'm

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never without a book. I'm always
interested in what's going on in the world

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of fiction, more so than nonfiction. As at aside, I'm always interested

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in social media what's going on.
Believe me, I tune out the nonsense.

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Politics is sickening, but I need
personally to know what's going on,

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if nothing else, to know who
to like or distrust the most. I'm

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interested in people, what they have
to say or right. I don't know

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if I've said it out loud.
More than anything, I'm fascinated by quotes.

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I like quotes that make a point
cleverly. I'm always on the lookout

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for something new and clever, And
if you're a fan of the show or

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a follower of the show, you
know by the titles we choose. Quotes

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mean a lot to me. Now, early in my career, the leaders

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gave speeches. I listened, and
often quotes we used. I was mesmerized

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early in my career. People use
quotes and meetings to make a point that

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process of quote never ends. For
me, I learned a million of them

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and created many of my own.
To thine own self be truth, said

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Shakespeare. I learned how to do
it myself. Tonight, I'm going to

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enjoy the exploration of quotes that I've
picked up along the way, some business,

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some personal. Now speaking personal.
Tonight, for the first time in

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a long time, both my sons
are with me. Number one son,

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Jared. That's me, number one
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happy to hang out. Wait a
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the introduction. I didn't see here. By the way, I'm here,

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everybody, it's Jesse Goes second,
second son, second stringer. That's how

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it works when the older comes in. Please tell me it wasn't number one

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son, like your favorite. But
he's the firstborn. I didn't say he

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was the favorite. He's the old
first. You didn't say older son,

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said number one son. If this
is a race, like, they're not

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like yeah, yeah, if this
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the older car got in for now. It's no Number one son,

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So joh, why are you hanging
out here? First and foremost, it's

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been a while since we've all been
in the studio together, so I'm very

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happy to be here with you,
Daddy and second son, Jesse. So

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that's first. But it's a big
week, big big week. Jesse hosted

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the Elizabeth Vargas Show and Dan Abrams
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a big week. Had a lot
of fun watching Jesse, and I'm very

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happy to be here tonight. Yeah, you know, it was amazing.

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Everyone treated us so nicely, and
you know what, I love, Jesse.

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You arranged for me to meet Chris
Cuomo. I thought that was very

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cool, not bad for a second
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I both of you came. It
was awesome. I love that you both

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came. And look, I know
how much you love Chris Cuomo and you

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respect him, and I wanted to
get the opportunity for you to meet him.

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Now. When you arrived, he
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So what did I do? I
asked one of his producers. I

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said, listen, I have to
run upstairs to the set because I had

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to get ready to fill in for
Dan, and I was like, when

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there's a commercial break, can you
introduce my father to Chris? And he

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was absolutely, absolutely so I wasn't
there, so when you met him,

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it was great. I was brought
over and introduced this Mark Weber, your

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father. He's a big guy,
strong handshake, very good looking, he

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has a presence. But I was
there really to thank him. He's been

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so nice to you on air,
so great gracious to you on air when

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his show is ending and you're coming
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thank him for a real long time
anyway, said to me with a big

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smile, you were great. Good
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he told me you're filling in for
him next Friday, and he said he's

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really excited. And then he left
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don't get his job, that's what
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funny. By the way. No, he's not only been great to me

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on air, but off air as
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he was. I remember one of
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at the set. I was watching
something and he came up behind me and

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hit me on the back like in
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He was like Superman, like hitting
a like flicking an ant. He was

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so big. But you know,
he's a great guy. He's a great

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guy. And I didn't know if
you knew this. I was going to

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talk about you on air, and
that's what I did. That was the

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first part of our segment. I
didn't hear it because I didn't have the

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headphones on yet. Well, luckily
for you, I recorded it and I

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have it for you right now.
So just to give everybody a context about

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it, when Chris finishes his show
and he begins Dan show, we have

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kind of a little bit of cross
talk and I want to play the clip

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for us right now. Jesse Weber
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Chris, my dad came to the
studio, wanted to shove everything out,

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talk about jeans. That guy has
some head of hair. Do you think

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this is an accident. I think
this just came out of no ways.

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That man. Every time you see
it, it does. His hair is

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splendifuous. It is fantastic. Wish
I had a picture I could put it

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out, but no. The truth
is he came here today. Other than

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the fact he wasn't even really excited
to see this. He really wanted to

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meet you. But even before he
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number one thing he says is,
he said, George Clooney, who cares

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if he supports Biden or not?
Find out you said the same exact thing.

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You guys are more similar than I
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coming from. You see that generation
doesn't get into the hype the way they

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do. I'll be honest. I
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I can say who cares? I
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open right, so obviously I care. Right now. I see manipulation by

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the New Times in it, which
is fair play. They should just be

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transparent. They're against Biden being president. They've said it twice. You can't

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trust their coverage about him, and
I think we need more transparency in the

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media. Clooney matters, okay,
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we like the narrative. That's my
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wasn't. You know, it's not
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Jill comes, ron Klain, the
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Daniel Oshan comes forward. Now the
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it's not Ron Klain, the second
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Yeah, one guy, Chris,
good seeing you, Thanks so much?

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See you? Just how great was
that? You didn't expect that cool?

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I had no idea. Yeah,
he complimented you. I had a feeling.

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I had a feeling. I've had
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taken aback by Mark Weber's hair.
See you make an impression, you know,

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by the way you every week You're
like, I'm not the same guy

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I used to be important. You
still got it? Thank you. Yeah,

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I'm not great. I love Chris. Chris is greatstic I like them

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again because of the way he's treated
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made me very happy. But tonight
I want to talk about quotes. Inspirational,

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clever, helpful quotes that make a
point in business and certainly in life.

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You know where I want to start. If you ever hear can I

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be honest with you, run because
whatever they're going to hear next is a

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lie. How could you ever trust
the person after they say that? Now,

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but along those lines, let me
start with business and company promises.

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Those are the quotes I want to
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promise of fortune and fame in a
company. Now the quote, you didn't

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really believe that, and I'll come
back to it. I believe a company

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has a right to manage. It's
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It's their way or the highway.
Companies make choices on how to manage,

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motivate, compensate, and treat their
employees. I've seen great interpretations, I've

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seen horrible. It's not my business
to judge right now anyway, and anythink

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you do can work either way.
But I do subscribe the tough, honest,

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clear direction and accountability. In the
end, you're managing a company.

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You need to retain people and the
people that you need. How you go

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about it is up to the management
of each company. But I've learned that

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the biggest source of dissatisfaction, disappointment, bad or hard feelings, disagreements is

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mostly always about compensation. Now,
of course, the easy the salary and

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the four toh one K plan,
that's clear, you know exactly where you

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stand. But annual raises and bonuses
seems to be the red hot bed for

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arguments. Now, raises are also
kind of simple, they're subjective. I

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like you, I don't like you. I like the job you're doing.

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I don't like the job you're doing. Guys, Gallas, get over it.

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You can never win. Yeah,
there are remedies, but I'm not

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getting in into that tonight. I'm
not telling you what you should say or

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how you should compromise. But bonuses
is where I want to talk about careers

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because I've lost more arguments and I've
seen more people get us set and get

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in trouble over bonuses. And let's
be fair, a company has a right

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to manage and protect its assets.
Now, any bonus worth anything ties your

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performance to a part of the company's
plan. Performance is always appropriate. Companies

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need and out Now. My first
experience with a bonus I was running the

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dresser company. I was a young
president of the venues and Shirt company,

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the largest shirt company in the world. We were on a run and I

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remember the CEO saying to me,
if you would ever reach a twenty five

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percent ROI, we'll get a marching
ban and we'll pay you three times your

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annual salary and a bonus. I
looked him, said you mean that marching

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band three times? I said absolutely, mark. Now the reason he said

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it, no one ever did it
before. Now, what is to turn

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on investment? Turn on investments?
Basically, in simple terms, if you

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invest the dollar and you get twenty
five percent return, you're gonna get a

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dollar twenty five back, or ahundred
dollars you get one hundred and twenty five

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amazing return. Nineteen eighty six,
some young present, I get a twenty

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six percent return. We announced the
figures. Everybody goes wild. I look

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out the window. There's no marching
band. I looked at the see.

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I said, you know, I
don't see my marching band. He looked

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at me, said get over it
from there. Bonus time was due.

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I remember, he said, wait, you'll get a great bonus the end

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of the year. My bonus comes, I get one hundred percent of my

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salary. Now, in normal times, one hundred percent of your cell is

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an amazing bonus. But he told
me I can get three hundred percent.

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I didn't, And sure enough,
when he didn't give me the three hundred

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percent, I complained to my boss. We said, you sure you want

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to go there with this mark.
You got one hundred percent. It's more

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than you ever got. He said. They told me if I got a

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twenty five percent or oh I got
twenty six percent three hundred. He says,

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okay, I'll go to him.
They bring me in a room.

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CEO's sitting there and he says to
me, you owe us an apology.

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Yikes. You know, saying that
to me is another way of saying,

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if you don't appreciate what we're doing, you don't belong at Like I said,

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yikes, what a welcome to a
bonus. I learned a lot of

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lessons along the way. Do you
know you have to believe in bonus plans.

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The company's supposed to make them that
they work. But my problems with

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bonus did the end there. At
LVMH, I had two bonus systems.

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One was an annual bonus that you
guys are all familiar with, and then

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I had a long term incentive plan
called an l TIP long Term Incenter plan

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that if I reached certain goals over
a three year period of earnings, I

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can make three hundred percent of my
salary. Let's just say I did really,

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really, really well. But there
was never a question whether or not

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LVMH would pay me that bonus.
But when they gave me the bonus and

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I did the calculations, and I
kind of respectively questioned, can you remember

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I learned if you're not happy,
you don't belong here. I said,

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we calibrate differently in Europe than you
Americans do here. And they made it

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clear that even though I was great
at every point, I have nowhere to

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run with this sum just conversation.
So one day CEO of the company,

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Larry Phillips, President of the company, Bruce I won't go his name.

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I don't know if he likes when
I mentioned his name. In ten of

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the senior most executives, which I
was one of, were brought into a

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room. I said, I have
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our stock is currently at eighty cents
a share. If we get the three

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dollars and forty two cents a share, which we believe is doable over the

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next three years, every one of
you are going to become millionaires. Millions.

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Now, my cut of this pot
was five million dollars. And what

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they do is they created the three
forty two team three dollars for two cents.

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It's the CEO, the chief financial
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every month we have a meeting every
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hear how we're doing. We hear
how our sharing price is going up.

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We hear about how being evaluated,
and we're raising our earnings. And over

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the course of eighteen months we went
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sixty a share. Amazing turnaround.
We have our annual meeting where we sit

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down and talk about how we're doing
against three forty eight. Larry Phillips starts

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in and don't call me to the
exact words. He says, guys,

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gals, we've done an amazing job. The net value of the company has

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doubled. Our earnings per share are
now dollars sixty from eighty cents. Everyone

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has done an amazing job. Now, he did this in the beginning to

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anchor us to the company. He
didn't want to lose any of his senior

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managers and he figured offering us millions
of dollars it would be great. They

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came up with this plan. It
was super smart to retain us. No

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one's leaving with this. The chief
financial Office IRV went to architect of the

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plan is crafted. We're growing our
owners. We're having our annual meeting.

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We double the numbers, and he
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I'll never forget the results. Extraordinary. I'm counting the money. I'm

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telling my wife we're buying a new
house, and my wife has the quote

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of the night mark Money's not money
till it's in the bank. Mommy was

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the brains of the family, not
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She was the moral compass. She, you know, really always set the

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right path for all of us,
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all grounded. The best in the
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I'm just a worker. I get
it. Anyway, back to the quote,

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back to what's happening. We're getting
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another eighteen months to go, and
Larry Phillips tells us what an amazing job

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we did. We doubled our earnings, and then he goes, I have

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to tell you it's impossible for us
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cents a share. I want to
thank you for everything you're doing, but

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we're canceling the bonus plant just like
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after the meeting, I go I'll
see our chief financial office of our publicly

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traded company, of the company that
declared this bonus plan to that in the

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ten K to our shareholders, and
I seek out the chief financial and I

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said to Marav what happened? What
went wrong? And then the quote you

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really didn't believe that, Mark,
did you? Yeah? I did?

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With that as a quote, that
is a backdrop. Don't call me on

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this one. I'll be back in
a minute. Always in fashion. As

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one of the world's most celebrated fashion
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a range of watches, I wear
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car lagofl collection of car Lagofelparis dot
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I, for one, love to
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what's happening and what catches my attention, what would make me feel good to

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wear? Now? I don't wear
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appreciate it and they look amazing.
If you want to look right, you

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want to have clothes that fits you
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I, for one, wear men's
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to look the way I want to
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I'm in black and carlago Felt is
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A favorite brand has always been ISOD.

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My company at one time bought that
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it to me and said, you
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everything in my career to make ISOD
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brand, and to this day it
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ever got involved with. Isod is
an incredibly strong golf brand. If you

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play golf, if you play tennis
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polo shirts. I mean great.
They're fit perfect. The material is unique

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because it's a PK fabric that waffle
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a blend of cotton and microfiber that
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they are treated with solar protection as
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and they breathe well. And one
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fit you great. The colors,
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also tell you Isaac makes great shorts
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and you want to look good.
You don't have to think about how do

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I look. You want to think
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feel. Isaad is the brand for
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it was created. The strategy behind
that brand is brilliant. It's one of

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my favorite brands. While I talk
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the men's sportswear. Isaad wasn't enough
being a golf brand. It wasn't enough

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being just great polo shirts with logos, without logos. Incredible brand and story

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and history. Isaad makes salt weather
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short sleeves that look excellent with colors, excellent with shorts, excellent with

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cotton pants, of which they also
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and pants of a range of colors
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wants to go casually in the spring
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the thing is is affordable. Everyone
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can afford to buy it and know
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that also have a look like IOD. Although I don't believe it's fun as

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isond Is. The brand has a
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the price points no one can compete. You can find Isaac at your leading

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retailers and online at ion dot com. Talk to you later, guys.

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I wish you. I'm very happy
springing some and I help you by telling

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you if you were eyes on,
you're going to look great. Welcome back

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to Always in Fashion. Here's your
host, Mark Webber. Tonight, I've

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been thinking about all the quotes,
all the speeches I've heard, all the

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quotes I've learned, the quotes I've
made up, the ones that have had

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the most impact on my life.
And I've been thinking about telling stories.

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I mean, I have so many
things I could talk about. I think

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we may have up doing two shows
on this subject tonight. The show is

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you can quote me. I'm here
tonight with my number one son, number

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one son, j web Is,
my eldest, and my number two son,

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my youngest, Jesse Weber. I
shouldn't even answer. I shouln't even

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have to say anything but fine,
Hi, Hello, Well it's a nice

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night. We're all together. We've
been having a big week, a lot

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of things going on. Jesse's been
all over television. We've been in this

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studio and here we are, the
three of us recording on Always in Fashion.

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By the way, I've gotten very
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On Instagram. Been posting a lot
of pictures of the things we're doing,

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the outfits were wearing, and the
good, good hair days that you're having

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is helping with why. I must
tell you. I must tell you.

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I find the pictures to be very
interesting, Like this is us getting a

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soda. It's time to post this. This is us walking a street.

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It's like very random. And by
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nine percent what is going on now? You were you were and featured the

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other night when you were on TV. Yeah, yeah. Do you want

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to mention that you had to crop
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we couldn't see those legs and when
he's wearing shorts by the pool, you're

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right, thank you for that.
While you're at it, why didn't you

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cut the band aid on your hand
getting too esoteric. You guys want to

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complain about your father, You gotta
do better. Anyway, tonight, I'm

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with my sons. It's getting a
little unruly, but that's okay. Being

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with your sons is always in fashion. I think the greatest thing in the

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world, you know, when you
think about it, a parent could achieve,

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is when your children get older,
they still want to hang with you.

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And I am very grateful for that
and very proud of it. I

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must have done something right. But
anyway, back to day to day work.

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I'm talking about quotes tonight, and
I've been fortunate that I work for

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some really brilliant pillotople and I have
an amazing series of stories I'd like to

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tell. But first, Jared,
I told you tonight we're going to talk

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about quotesy is, you're an opportunity. Do you have any quote that you

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have find inspirational that you've used in
business sill life. I have a number,

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but most importantly and most immediately tonight, some of the best quotes I

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have are quotes that you've given me
over the years that not only are inspirational

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but practical from a business standpoint.
You've always told me that you should make

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sins of co mission rather than omission. So one of the most important lessons

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you taught me in business is to
be thorough. And there's a number of

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ways to be thorough. But going
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OH mission, when you make a
decision, you need to think through the

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cause and effect of what that decision
is going to be and ultimately what the

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ramifications can be when you make that
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co mission standpoint, you're thorough.
You think through all aspects of that.

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An O mission, you don't think
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best. And as you also taught
me, another quote that's important that is

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also relevant is when you throw a
pebble in the water, there's a ripple

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effect. So every decision I make
in business I think through. For example,

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if we're expanding distribution on a brand, what will be the response to

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the other retailers we do business with. How will the consumer look at it,

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how will we look at it,
how will our partners look at it?

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How will the board of directors look
at it? And again, that's

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making a sin of co mission ran
an O mission and just making a decision

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for the purposes of making a decision, and that I would tell you is

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one of my favorite quotes that you've
given me, but more importantly, one

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of the most relevant and important quotes
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in my career. That's great to
hear. I'm glad you got it from

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me. What a guy see.
There's a reason he's number one. Yes,

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that's number one son reporting on the
number one quote off to you.

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Number two. You got anything you
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got Yes, I'm leaving my quote. No, I got two quotes.

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I got a market where But I
don't know if this is actually from you,

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but you say it all the time. It's one of my favorite quotes

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you have. And then I have
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not from you. So the one
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work? If it's work, say
that all the time. Got to try

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to find something that you love to
do. You always say, try to

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always find something that you're best at, not your passion. But if you're

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really lucky, you can find something
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do. It won't feel like work. One of my favorite quotes. Ever,

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you know what I did the book
Always in Fashion? I wanted to

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call the book is this boring?
Because every time I make a public address,

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every time I make a speech,
I'm looking out at the audience.

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I get uncomfortable talking about myself,
So I always ask this boring, and

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I'm always expecting someone to yell out. And yes, I wanted to name

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Always in Fashion is this boring?
And the editors and mcgroihill refuse to let

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me do it because they said the
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Yeah, it is boring, So
I had to do it. The second

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working title I had was work is
work if it's work as you said,

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which basically means if you enjoy what
you're doing, it's not work. It's

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a great thing in life to enjoy
what you're doing. But in the end

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they liked Always in Fashion. They
insisted what else you got, Jess though?

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My next quote is from Milton Burle. This is a great quote.

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If opportunity doesn't knock, build a
door. Now. Why do I love

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that one so much? For two
reasons. One, when I was graduating

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law school, look went I love
my law school. Loved it. Now,

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being honest, with you. It
wasn't the top tier law school,

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so a lot of people from my
grade, including me, we had to

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look outside the box. It might
not have been the traditional way of going

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to a big law firm. Some
people went into entertainment, some people went

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into real estate, some people built
their own companies, some people started their

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own firms. They had to think
outside the box. If they weren't getting

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selected, they had to think what
are they going to do? And for

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me in my career in broadcasting,
I don't have a traditional broadcasting career.

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I didn't go to journalism school,
so I couldn't just pick the local news

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or start that way. I had
to build my own track. So hearing

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that if the job is not there, you have to try to build your

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own job. I love that quote. It's pretty good. Chard's looking at

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me, he's got more. I
have one more. So Mommy always told

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me to be myself, and I
believe Steve Jobs had a quote, your

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time is limited, so don't waste
it living someone else's life. And I'll

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tell you my high school yearbook quote. My goal was to emulate the character

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of my mother, the wisdom of
my father, and still managed to be

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myself. And that's always lived true
to me. You can only have one

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life. Live it yourself, be
who you are, be true to yourself,

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and take inspiration for those that are
important to you, and who more

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important than my dad and my mom. So that's always rung very true to

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me. That was a beautiful quote. I do want to end it just

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if I can get one more.
I think this is the one we need

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right now. This is from Kamala
Harris. It is time for us to

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do what we have been doing,
and that time is every day. I

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think that says a lot. You're
welcome to America twenty twenty four. Here

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we come, all right, And
if it's to save this sh show,

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I have a great story to tell. I was working for PVH Venues and

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Phillips van Usen. I was doing
great and I had a friend of mine

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who was the president of a button
company. I give him a quad.

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He's long gone, may rest in
peace. His name was bud Winstrel,

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who's the president company. Took a
liking to me. Came to me one

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day and say Capital Mercury, privately
held shirt company. They don't own brands.

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They make private label product that's brands
with store labels on it. They

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said, they're looking for a designer
to come from the one of the brands.

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They're prepared to pay enormously. I
told them about you. They want

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to meet you. I said,
I I love it here. I said,

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Mark, the kind of money we're
talking about, you have to go

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and listen. It turned out was
triple out I was earning. I went,

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I met with them. I ended
up leaving venues and I left them

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the right way. That was very
clever. I told him, tell me

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how much time you need a month, two months, three months, I'll

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wait. Tell me what you need
me to do. They asked me to

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stay a month. I said,
listen, I'm leaving, but I'm coming

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back. They said, well,
why are you leaving? I said,

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I need to do this. I
need to see that I could do what

446
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I'm doing here somewhere else. I'll
come back smarter, I'll come back wiser.

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I'm coming back, I promise you. And I went to work for

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this Capitol Mercury Sharp company. It
was two owners. They were very genleminely

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like, very very studious, very
smart guys. They built a shirt company

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manufacturing. I enjoyed working there,
except for the fact that I missed my

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home. My home was at van
Usin, which ended up I spent thirty

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three years there. So I missed
it. And I remember as much and

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as excited I was with the income
I was earning, it just didn't feel

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like where I wanted to be.
Talked about it with my wife and she

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again we said, she was always
the rational. If you would be happier

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at van Usen and they'll take you
back, forget the money, go back.

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So I called my former boss.
I asked to meet him, and

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we had dinner, he his wife
and myself, and I said, look,

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I want to come back. Said, you've only been gone for three

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months. I said, and yet
when I left, I told you I

461
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would come back. Said I don't
know if we can right now. I

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said, you got to make it
happen. I want to come back,

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and he graciously figured out a way
for me to come back, and I

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decided to leave Capitol Mercury. I
went in to see the following morning the

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owner and founder, a fellow named
Donald Cooper. As I said, a

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real gentleman, I said, I
wanted to talk to you. Said,

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before you even say a word,
I want you to know how much we

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enjoy having you here. You've been
doing great. What can I help you

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with? I said, with that
as a backdrop, mister Cooper, I

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have to tell you I've enjoyed my
time here. I respect the people I

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work with, but I've been sad. I miss van use it. I

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left them where before my time was
due, and I've decided to go back.

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He got up from his desk,
walked around. Now me from Brooklyn.

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I thought he's gonna punch me,
but he got up. He walked

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around from his desk. He put
out his hand and he said, I

476
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.839
have to congratulate you. I'm so
happy for you, Mark, You're a

477
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great guy. You deserve this.
And then he went back and sat behind

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his desk and he looked at me
and he said, now that we've discussed

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this, what do we need to
do to keep you here? What a

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00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.319
great quote. Right, That's fantastic, and that's a gentleman. I never

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forgot it, and to this day, anytime anyone has ever resigned on me,

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I remember that story with Donald Cooper, and I use it always.

483
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I always am gracious to whoever is
leaving. Back in my early days,

484
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I worked with a fella named Robert
J. Solomon, Bob Solomon. He

485
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was amenta to me. I met
him, Who's the number three guy at

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PVH at the time. He was
the head of all product development. He

487
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was considered the genius merchandiser of the
company. He was the one who developed

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all the new concepts, the ideas. We had a new shirt brand.

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He came up with it. He
was amazing guy and I was lucky enough

490
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that he was taking a liking to
me early on. My boss he loved.

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My boss was one of the chosen
few who went on to become president

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and CEO, and I was his
right hand man. And this fellow Bob

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00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:10.279
knew it, liked me, understood
I was doing well. And I have

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a story to tell you. They
used to have at the company what they

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00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:17.279
called a bull session. It was
a funny name for it, but what

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they did. They brought together all
the designers, all the creative people,

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00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:27.039
all the salespeople and looked at new
merchandise that was to be considered for the

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00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.480
next collection. And during the course
of these meetings, everyone would give their

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comments. The design people would show
their ideas and the powers to be the

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president, the CEO, and of
course Bob Solomon, is the head of

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00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:43.559
merchandise, had the center seat.
It was like the ancient coliseum thumbs up

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and made it into the collection thumbs
down. It wouldn't make We're going through

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00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:50.920
these this day, and towards the
end of the day, I'll never forget.

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00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:55.200
Someone was presenting a new collection in
sportswear and they went around the room

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and then Bob Solomon, the guru
of merchandise at the company, was asked

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his opinion and he said, for
a series of reasons, he didn't like

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00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.839
what he was looking at. And
they got to me. Bob Solomon asked

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00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:10.960
me, so, Mark, I
haven't heard from you. What do you

509
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.400
think? And I said, well, in this one, mister Solomon,

510
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.559
I don't think you're right. I
disagree with you. I think this could

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be a great thing. As a
young person myself, I'd love that collar.

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I would buy ten of them if
I had the opportunity. He said,

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00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:28.599
thank you, and we went around
and the meeting ended a little while

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00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.240
later. Solomon said, I want
to thank you all. This was a

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00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:34.839
great meeting. I hope you all
learned a lot, because I know I

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00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.880
did. This is going to be
very helpful for opposition in the company in

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the future. Everyone starts to get
up to leave, and Bob Solomon says,

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Mark, I'd like you to stick
around. Everybody leaves there and says

519
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:46.839
sit down. He has me come
and sit in front of his desk.

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00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:52.839
He said, Mark, I have
a lesson for you, and I look

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00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.160
see yes, sorry, He says, I may not always be right,

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00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:01.799
but I'm never wrong. You could
leave. Think about that one. I

523
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:05.839
may not always be right, but
I'm never wrong. You want to talk

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00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.239
about politics and how to talk to
your vosses. You might want to remember

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00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:13.559
that tonight. It's all about quotes. Back in a moment. Always in

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Fashion spent a lifetime of my career
building the van usen Brand, and I

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00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:24.199
am so pleased that they're back with
us now talking about suits. Men were

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dressing up again, and it's become
cool to wear a suit. Suits can

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be won on multiple occasions in multiple
ways. You could wear a suit formally

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to go out at night or to
an event, wear a suit to the

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office with or without a tie.
If you look closely, now fashion trends,

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suits are being worn with turtlenecks or
mark next. The choices are endless

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00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:51.840
and every one of them looks right. You could really really look the part.

534
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.480
I believe that packaging yourself is as
important does the products you package,

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and wearing a suit is one of
those things that make men look their best.

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Venuesing invented a new idea. It's
called the cool Flex suit. It's

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00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.960
been engineered with stretch technology, giving
you the most comfortable fit and mobility.

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00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:15.039
It's wrinkle resistant fabric, it's cool
moisture WICKI it makes it perfect for all

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00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:21.239
occasions. As we discussed just now, this new style of looking sharp while

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00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:25.719
feeling cool and comfortable is amazing and
I'm so excited that the van using company

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is involved in this new technology and
is embracing the whole idea of dressing up.

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00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:36.320
Let's not forget Venues and made it's
name with dress shirts. It's only

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proper that the suit business follows strongly
in its way. You can find van

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Ues in cool Flex Men's stretch suits
at jcpenny are online at jcpenny dot com.

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Guys, they're great. You should
go look at them. D k

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and Why Donna Karen, New York. Donna Karen began a career as one

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of the finest, most successful,
powerful women fashion industry. She developed a

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collection aimed at the luxury market for
women on the go, women who were

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powerful in their workplace, women who
had lives that extended beyond the workplace,

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and her clothes went from day and
to night. An extraordinary collection. But

551
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.719
the interesting thing Donna Karen had a
young daughter, and she had friends,

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00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:24.000
and they couldn't afford to buy the
Donna Aaron collection, and Donna invented DKNY

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00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.559
Donna Aaron, New York. It's
an offshoot of the Donna Karen collection.

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The same concept a lifestyle brand.
Now we talk about lifestyle brands, what

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does that really mean? Simply what
they say, there are brands that follow

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you throughout your lifestyle. You get
up in the morning, you start to

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get dressed Donna Karen Decaan why as
intimate apparel, as hosiery, as all

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those products. You're getting dressed for
work. You get accessorized shoes, handbags,

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00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.880
and it takes you through the day. The remarkable thing about DK and

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Y clothes for work, they work
into the evening. The dresses, the

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suits, the pants, the sweaters, the blouses. Extraordinary clothes at affordable

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prices that go from day in tonight. Part of your lifestyle is active.

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You have weekends, you have events, you participate in sports. Donna Karen's

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casual clothes did that under the DK
and Y label. A vast array of

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casual sportswear that make women look great
as they navigate their busy lives. Whether

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you going to soccer games for your
children, or whether you're going out to

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the movies. Whatever you want to
do, DK and Y jeens, dk

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Y Sportswear is there for you.
That's what a lifestyle brand is. And

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I need to mention DKY active Wear, which is extraordinary, the leggings,

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the sports bras, the sweats.
You can wear DKY active Wear, certainly

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in the gym, certainly when you're
working out at home, and certainly if

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you want on the street, because
it's that well done. The quality of

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dk why is nothing short of exceptional. And why shouldn't it be Because born

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from the idea of luxury made affordable
for women of America. DK and Why

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a true lifestyle brand that takes you
from day and tonight, from the week

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00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:17.719
into the weekend. DCN Why You
can find DCN Why and Macy's DKY dot

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com. Welcome back to Always in
Fashion. Here's your host Mark Webber Tonight's

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show is you can quote me.
I spent a life in business. I've

579
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.440
spent a life in public speaking.
I'm after all, I'm on the radio.

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00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:34.840
I'm a recluse by nature. I
spend a lot of time alone.

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It gives me time to think,
time to observe. I'm always listening and

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00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:42.119
learning. That's one thing about life. You never stop learning. And if

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00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:45.199
you want to be successful, you
better be curious. And early on in

584
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:49.800
my career I got interested in quotes
and they inspired me. They taught me

585
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:54.880
so much in simple words, and
I became enamored with them and I started

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00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:58.840
to think about some of them.
This week put it together for you,

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and I want to talk about certain
quotes that left an impression on me.

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And at the moment, I want
to go into national As you know by

589
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now if you're listening to the show. I had a senior position CEO of

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elvim h Inc Louis Vuittan Mohe and
Hennessy. I sat in the executive committee

591
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in Paris. I was back and
forth to France. That's the first time

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00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:24.639
I thought about I was always,
as my kids would say, used to

593
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:30.199
call me batman. I was like
a swashbuckley American executive that I represented American

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00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:36.760
companies. Now I'm working for a
French company and I'm an American representing a

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00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:40.880
foreign entity, and that was always
very different from me. I remember I

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00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.000
was working for PVH and I get
called in one day and they told me

597
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:50.639
they hired someone to run off foreign
offices. We had a huge foreign office

598
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:53.119
sourcing operation based in Hong Kong at
the time, and they hired this guy

599
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:58.079
who I ended up loving. His
name was Murray Weinberg. He was sixty

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six years old. Today, if
you can get a job at sixty six

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00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.440
at Shocking, the only place you
get a job at sixty six if you

602
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.480
run for office in this country and
then they make fun of you. But

603
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:12.079
they hired him as an elder gentleman, and I remember every day coming to

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00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.519
the office he was dressed in a
suit and tie. And in those days,

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the people traveling from the United States
to Asia would always travel in t

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shirts and cargo pants and just too
casual for business. And they go to

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00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:29.119
factories. Sure the owner of the
factory might be dressed casually, the short

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sleeve shirt or who knows what.
But I remember saying to him, Murray,

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00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:38.039
you're always so elegant. Why are
you dressed like that? No one

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else is? He said, because
I represent a company. I am the

611
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leader of this foreign office. I
have to set an example, and I

612
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think you should. Toomark, I
said, what do you mean, I

613
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:54.880
should too? And he said the
quote don't be a garmento. You ever

614
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:59.239
hear that expression, Jared in your
business? Unfortunately more times than I want

615
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:00.679
to admit, I hate expression.
I hate it. Also, I never

616
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:05.039
saw myself as a garmento. It's
a derogatory comment. You want to talk

617
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:08.679
about quotes aimed at people in the
garment business who wear the chains on their

618
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:13.239
neck, or the fancy Julie or
a lot of gold, or talk with

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an accent or all wise, guys, they're not professional business executives. And

620
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I always considered myself, no matter
how I handle, I remember, I

621
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work for brilliant people. I work
for people who could speak without notes for

622
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:29.239
an hour. I worked for people
who thought about the big picture. I

623
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work for a public company. And
here I am traveling to Asia looking like

624
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:36.559
a commander, wearing khakis and khaki
cargo shorts. And he said, don't

625
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:40.840
be a garmento. It also implies
lack of sophistication exactly. So from that

626
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:46.840
day I started dressing formula and no
matter how hot it was, I wore

627
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:51.559
a shirt, a tie, a
sport coat, so very often jeans.

628
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:55.360
I also wore, you know,
dress pants, polish shoes. I always

629
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.719
look the part. And I can
tell you you know, this show has

630
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:02.360
a the quote of mine that I
developed. It's prominent in my book.

631
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Packaging yourself is as important it's the
products you package. It might not matter

632
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:12.280
to you how you look, but
it matters to others. We have to

633
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:16.880
create a vision of who we are. My next international foray. Now I'm

634
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:22.000
thinking about quotes. I went to
Sweden a lot. We bought a company

635
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.039
that was called Gant. Kant was
the precursor to Ralph Lauren Polo, and

636
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.280
it just so happened. The way
we bought it was so powerful in Europe

637
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.679
and the rest of the world.
Was based on three guys, three partners,

638
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:36.599
who built a business out of Sweden. They were a licensee for the

639
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:42.440
Gan brand and they did an amazing, amazing job. I remember getting into

640
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:45.719
arguments with all the time. I'll
never forget one time the CEO of the

641
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:52.719
company yelling at me, and I
quote, all you Americans think that the

642
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:57.519
World Series is a baseball game played
in Yankee Stadium, when everyone else in

643
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:01.239
the world knows it's football played in
every every country of the world, which

644
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:06.840
is soccer. Great quote. Great, how they thought of Americans. There's

645
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:10.000
another great quote I saw in Sweden. It was a tapestry behind the desk

646
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:14.400
of the CEO, Leonard Burk,
and it said, building a brand without

647
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.119
advertising is I kissing a girl in
the dark. You know what you're doing,

648
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:21.519
but no one else does. And
before I leave advertising, my favorite

649
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.679
advertising quote in the world. Wow, there's a few break through the clutter.

650
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:28.559
David Altman break through the clutter,
but my favorite one was a guy

651
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:31.519
named John Wannermaker who was one of
the founders of one of the retail businesses

652
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:37.440
and I think Pennsylvania. He said, I know fifty percent of my advertising

653
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:40.880
works, I just don't know which
fifty percent. I used to love that

654
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:49.199
quote. Now I have two extraordinary
quotes on a personal basis for me but

655
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:53.480
in business that I have to share
with you. The first I got publicly

656
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:58.400
fired. It's a long time ago, eighteen years ago, and I tell

657
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:00.679
you it's as if it happened yesterday. I'll never get over it. I'll

658
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:05.159
never forget it. I'll never forgive
the people who fired me. But it

659
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.880
was their choice, I said earlier. Companies have a right to manage,

660
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:12.239
but getting fired killed me. And
I remember how I was struggling to come

661
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.480
back. But I remember reading a
quote from George Patten. It changed it

662
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.760
all around for me, and he
said, it's not how far you fall,

663
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:23.960
it's how high you bounced back.
And I never forgot about it.

664
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.239
In fact, in my book,
I do a whole chapter on the subject

665
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.960
of making a comeback, and that
quote meant a lot to me. The

666
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:35.960
other one personal that meant a great
deal to me is when I joined LVMH

667
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.000
and I became CEO of LVMH Inc. And you know, as I said,

668
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:43.760
I had a million titles, but
the most important one probably was with

669
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.440
the Donna Karen Company. Because they
had bought the company for six hundred and

670
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:51.480
somewhadd million dollars. They weren't making
any money, had three CEOs, never

671
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:52.840
made any money, didn't have a
clue, didn't know what to do.

672
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They hired me to fix it,
and I was driven to fix it.

673
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:00.960
I said to myself. What am
I going to tell all these people?

674
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:05.199
Why am I going to be smarter
than the three CEOs? How am I

675
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:07.559
going to talk to them without sounding
like a pompous you know what? I

676
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:12.599
walked in and met with the people, made a speech to everyone in the

677
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.800
New York offices, like two to
four hundred people. I remember special location

678
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:19.800
in New York Times, and I
spoke about the future of the company.

679
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:22.880
And I told him, well,
one of my quotes, the brand is

680
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:28.719
bigger than the business. However,
it's not the quote that I fashioned the

681
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:32.119
company offer. I looked at all
of them and said, we're going to

682
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.559
have a motto here. It's one
of my favorite quotes of all. You

683
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.039
all have done wonderful jobs. You
all have reasons for what you've done.

684
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:46.519
You all have been successful. You
just haven't reached the level that it needs

685
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:51.719
to be for a company like LVMH
to treat us as a special child.

686
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:54.800
And we're going to be treated special. And the quote that I am going

687
00:45:54.840 --> 00:46:00.679
to use comes from Ben Franklin,
who said, well done is better than

688
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:04.880
well said. I said, I
don't want to hear what you're going to

689
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.840
do. I don't want to hear
how you're going to do it. I

690
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:09.880
don't want to hear what the future
is. I want to see it.

691
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:15.719
The only thing that I'm going to
measure any of us buy is what we

692
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:21.400
do. Well done is better than
well said. Those two quotes probably had

693
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.199
more meaning to me than any other
in my personal business experience. I'll take

694
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:30.000
a break tonight. You can quote
me back in a minute. Always in

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00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:36.000
Fashion venues for over one hundred and
fifty years now has been a mainstay in

696
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:40.360
American fashion. This brand that was
invented for dress shirts was given to coal

697
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:45.360
miners when they exited the mills dirty
and dusty. The Phillips Venues and Company

698
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.599
Phillips Family's there to give them fresh
new shirts that they could wear at home

699
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.119
and feel their best. Over the
course of time, venues and dress shirts

700
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:58.639
grew and grew and grew to suit
shirts and ties for the dress up and

701
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:02.880
now sports, becoming a dominant part
of the venues and collection. You can

702
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:09.119
find these products including sweaters, polos, quarter zips, trousers, and even

703
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:14.320
the best of fashion has to be
preserved. I don't know if I ever

704
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:19.480
mentioned to you the advent of the
men's necktie. There's nothing better in a

705
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:23.199
men's necktie business than the business lunch
because guys we go out, they'd have

706
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:29.480
their lunch that have their salads or
their beef and potatoes and snow stout about

707
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.440
it. They would always stain their
die and therefore the business grew and grew

708
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:36.920
venues. And today doesn't want to
make money on your hardships. They want

709
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:38.760
to do it and prevent you from
having to go through that. And they

710
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:45.480
invented stain shield. It's the technology
that was invented to protect your favorite items.

711
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:51.440
The stain Shield collection provides extreme defense
against water based stains by causing spills

712
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:54.559
to beat up before they can be
absorbed into the fabric. This collection,

713
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.719
by the way, in addition to
regular fits, is also often in all

714
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:04.119
body sizes big and tall. You
can find vanues and stain Shield and the

715
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:08.679
great venues in style sports were at
vanues In dot com. That's Vanuesen dot

716
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:14.639
com. As one of the world's
most celebrated fashion designers, Carl Lagafeld was

717
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:19.280
renowned for his aspirational and cutting edge
approach to style. His unique vision of

718
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:24.159
Parisianshit comes to America through Car Lagofeld
Paris. He has women's collections, men's

719
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:29.440
collections, ready to wear, accessory
shoes and bags. The fashion house Carlagofeld

720
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.440
also offers a range of watches,
I wear and premium fragrances. You can

721
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:37.719
explore the car LAGOFL collection at car
Lagofelparis dot com. But it's more than

722
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.559
that. I have, for one, love to shop. I love going

723
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:45.360
around and seeing what's happening and what
catches my attention, what would make me

724
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:49.159
feel good to wear now. I
don't wear the women's wear obviously, but

725
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:52.920
I can appreciate it and they look
amazing. If you want to look right,

726
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.039
you want to have clothes that fits
you well. You want to look

727
00:48:55.159 --> 00:49:00.679
like you're wearing something that's very expensive, that's elusive for you and yours.

728
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:07.079
You can find it at very affordable
prices at Macy's Orcarlagofel dot com Paris.

729
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.119
The women's ready to wear fashion is
extraordinary, as well as the handbigs and

730
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:15.719
the shoes. I for one wear
men's clothes, unlike my appreciation of women's

731
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.280
clothes. I'm a modern guy.
I want to look current. I want

732
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.719
to look the way I want to
feel. I go out at night,

733
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:27.159
I'm in black and Carlagafel is my
buddy. Cars are great, they fit

734
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:30.039
great, and they have little tweaks
and touches, whether it's a stripe on

735
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.519
the sleeve or button at the neck
or on the shoulder. There's a lot

736
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:37.199
of details that go into Carlagafel because
he's always been, he always had been

737
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:42.239
one of the world's great designers,
and this legacy and goes on and on.

738
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.239
I can't speak enough about it except
to say to you, you want

739
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.400
to feel good about yourself. You
want to know that you're dressing properly.

740
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:53.440
You want to clothes that fits you
well. Carl Lagafeld Paris at Macy's Orcarlagafel

741
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:59.360
dot com. Welcome back to it
Always in Fashion. Here's your host,

742
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.079
Mark Tonight. It's all about quotes. The title of shows. You can

743
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:05.920
quote me. I've given you and
listed a number of quotes that I find

744
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:09.480
fascinating with some stories that go behind
them. Those of you have fans of

745
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:14.000
the show have heard me use quotes
throughout because it's part of my life,

746
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.599
it's part of my business, and
it's part of everything I do. You've

747
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:22.360
heard me say that behind anyone vision, they're fifty well intentioned people undermining that

748
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.599
vision. That's a great way of
saying, you know, when you're out

749
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:28.079
there, you have an idea of
a lot of people want to help,

750
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.239
but you know they're negative. You
got to have the confidence in yourself.

751
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:36.599
I've told you the time is the
only commodity in nature that doesn't replenish itself.

752
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:39.639
Ben Franklin again, you may delay
time, but time will not wait

753
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:44.719
for you. And one of my
favorites in fashion. Fashion is not like

754
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.960
fine wine. It doesn't improve with
age. You have to always be changing,

755
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.039
you have to always be next.
And a contractual note. I have

756
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:54.559
two lawyers whose sons who know this
one from me. Contracts are not a

757
00:50:54.599 --> 00:51:00.679
menu sign a deal. Can't decide
to obey those ideas that you like.

758
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.920
You have to take the whole contract. And it said in closing this out,

759
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:08.280
we all have to count our blessings. I've always said that the hardest

760
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:14.639
arithmetic the master is that which enables
us to count our blessing. And with

761
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:19.519
that is a note. I'm signing
off number one son, Jared Weber signing

762
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:23.880
off, and I guess number two. Yeah, no replacement son over here?

763
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:29.199
Ball boy number two? Well anyway, Yeah, filling out another quote

764
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:31.880
that I think is really important and
say good night to this one. In

765
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:37.840
life, success is getting what you
want. However, happiness is wanting what

766
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:38.159
you get. Good Night,

