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Made a decision have Pace's Sunny Sun
on Ihdavision Night. What's up, everybody,

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Welcome to fugind out loud. It's
our show. It's Friday. Yeah,

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sorry, it's Friday. It's Friday. Frye rye. That's good.

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Oh my god, I didn't come
up with that. Don't you remember when

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we used to didn't Rachel Black remember
when we used to make fun of It's

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Friday, Friday? Yeah? I
don't know, Yeah, I don't.

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I don't know what's happening. This
is our last show. Yes, we

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have a lot to talk about.
We still do we do. Let's say,

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let's say Hi, we got share
Bear and do you want a Hrshey

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Bar and Kelly Laddie, Dad Amy, I'm sorry you are a gun.

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Everybody knows. And Katie's rolling on
e and not Anna Faris and Aaron Hoodas

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and Nikki call your Girl and Leslie
stay away from From Several Loves, Abandon

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May Companies, Yes, Jacob Is
Growley, Rita Rocks, Elizabeth Williamson's Many

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many Children in her Beautiful hand Sanded
Bassiette and Athena we love your dancing,

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and Polly, we love your pancakes. And your syrup Zyrup and Valerie,

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Bubba Fenwick and Katerina check your molar
Moller, Gabby and Missy. Yeah they're

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hungover from the golf. Los're still
recovering. Sean Lush Pink Rebecca, No,

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when is so cute? Kelly Brand
is not your aunt? Alicia?

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Ask on, Leslie, she's got
COVID again, Sarah Stefano, my Paison,

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Aaron Dirty Sanchez, Jennifer get up, Sandra, it's not easy being

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green. Chris, so you make
us want to stop? And Stephanie the

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Stinger Ringer Kaal, Hello, how's
it going with the kid? Is?

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Everybody? It's you know what?
You're not coughing? I know, Yeah,

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it's finally. I think I had
this thing that I've heard a lot

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of people say. It's called like
the four month cough, And I guess

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that's a thing. And I guess
I got it because that was about the

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amount of time I was coughing.
But yeah, it's finally just about over.

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Wow. Well congratulations. Yeah,
so it only hit me all through

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the holidays, So now that the
holidays are over, now it can be

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nice and relaxing. Yeah. Nice, How is it to be? Yes,

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it's nice. It's very nice.
Me and Amy went out to dinner

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the other nice just to kind of
celebrate. Yeah, we went to Ruth

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Chris. They have a new one
in Long Beach. Yeah. Not not

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loud, No not good. Oh
yeah, no, well there is a

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there is a very nice steakhout.
I talked about it on the Patreon episode

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where I talked about proposing my plans
maybe go to dinner, go down to

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the beach, blah blah. So
but then I did it on New Year's

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Eve. But you know, we're
still going out to dinner. So we

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were like, and are we gonna
go to this really nice steakhouse down there

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that we love called five five five? But then they just opened up this

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Ruth Chris and I was like,
man, it's been a long time since

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I've been to a Ruth Chris.
So like, let's do that one.

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Let's change it up. We always
do a lot of the same things,

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we go to a lot of the
same place, so let's change it up.

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So we went there on Saturday,
made the reservation for seven. They

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didn't see this till like seven forty, so I was already like okay,

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uh got there and yeah, we're
having some drinks, just having wine.

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I had a martini and I had
I think, like the best crab cakes

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I may have ever had. I
loves. Yeah, normally crab cakes they

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were kind of ready, you know, but these ones like weren't really ready.

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It was just like all crab and
so that set the standard like high.

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I was like, oh, these
are amazing crab cakes. You know,

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it's a really weird coincidence or sorry, quinkydink, I just say crab

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cakes last night. Oh yeah,
our John's sister, my sister in law,

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for our holiday, our Christmas present
sent us crab cakes and scallops I

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got from Chesapeake Bay Seafood Company and
I made them last night. Coincidence.

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The sauce with the crabcakes awesome.
It was. It was just very buttery.

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It was mostly just butter, but
whatever. They might have put a

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little something else in there, but
it was. It was good. I

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did not expect them to be that
good. Yeah, sometimes you get the

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crab cakes, you get the side
sauce and it's funky and it kind of

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ruins the crab cake, at least
for me. Mine didn't come with any

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sauce. But you know, like
when you go to a restaurant. You

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get the sauce or whatever, do
you get the thing to dip it in,

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And sometimes it's really good, and
then sometimes they put some shit in

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it and it's like, what the
what is this like seasoning? Am I

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tasting? But so it was good. Yeah, I was just butter sauce.

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And then I got the lobster bisk. I love lobster, my favorite

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foods in and I haven't had it
for a long time. I was so

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excited and I got it and I
took a bite and I went, hmm,

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that wasn't good. That didn't taste
good. And then she brought over

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pepper and put pepper in it.
And then I took another bite and I

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go, yeah, I don't I
don't think this is very good. And

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then I had three bites and I
went, yeah, this is horrible.

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And I just didn't eat it,
and I was like really Yeah. She

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came by, She's like, how
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care for it. So there's just
a full bowl of lobster bisks. No.

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Yah. Do you think it was
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I was kind of worried that it
was, especially after that story you told

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her the crab get and I was
like, there might be something bad in

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it, But did you tell the
server? No? I didn't really.

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I didn't want to, like,
oh take away. I didn't want to.

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Was just like, you know what, I already had an appetizer and

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I'm getting a steak, so just
it's okay, yeah, I'll call this

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one. So then we got our
steaks. I got a ribby and Amy

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got a filet. And the last
time we went to a steakhouse, which

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was five five five, which I
mentioned, we didn't have the greatest experience

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there. It was like they forgot
my oysters that I ordered, and they

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mixed up our how we eat our
steaks. I get my medium rare,

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she gets her medium. They flip
flopped them. So we were like,

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oh bummer. So we order our
steaks this time, same way. They

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flip flop them again. At Ruth
Chris, I go, what are the

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chances of that happening? Yeah?
And I go, you know what,

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Okay, I am going to send
him back this time. So I send

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him back. They came back again. Mine was fine, but I went

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through a little phase a couple months
ago where I was like making my own

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steaks where I was like searing them
and doing it and I was eating the

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ribbi, going like I think like
I could make this. I think I

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could make this for like twenty bucks, whereas this costs like you know,

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and then the fifty probably more.
It was like seventy oh. And then

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even after they sent it back,
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still like more on the like medium, it was still like really red,

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and so they kind of fucked up
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we were just like, you know
what, we're still having fun because we

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get some wine. We were like
it was still fun. But yeah,

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yeah, I was like, we're
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this is not a good experience.
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like I said, to the bar
where we first met, sat down

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at the same spot where we had
our first date, left that bar,

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went to the other bar that we
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we still did that too. Nice. Good, I'm happy for you guys.

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It was a nice night. Yeah, maybe don't go to Ruth Chris.

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Do we get to be bridesmaids?
Yeah? I don't know. And

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he's got a lot of friends.
I think I'm one of her, like

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closer friend, I mean in my
mind pretty tight, Like I will like

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a Facebook post, you know,
so I'm sure I'm gonna make the top.

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Yeah, I don't know about you, Lynette. I don't know liked

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as many posts as I have.
Maybe maybe, I mean, like I

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could do like I could plan the
you know, the the striplor up exactly,

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just the strippers part of it.
I don't even know where we go.

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We don't go anywhere right at your
place? But yeah, well that's

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nice. Yeah, so let's should
we talk about Natalia Grace? Oh my

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god? That did you watch it? Kilin? I didn't see. I

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was too busy watching anime. Did
you watch the did you watch you watched

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the first Natalia Grace though? Right? I didn't. No, I didn't

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think it was up your alley.
Yeah. I saw a couple other movies

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too, but I don't think they're
going to be up your ally either.

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Yeah, all right, I don't
know how we can talk about it though

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without a major spoiler. Well,
okay, well we're gonna have. Let's

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just talk about the fact that what's
this Oh what would be a spoil?

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I mean, the spoiler is how
it ends how it I forgot how it

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ended. I was falling asleep because
I watched it last night because I knew

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we were going to talk about it, and I got to the almost bitter

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end. Okay, you got to
get to the bitter end, but I

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saw it. But I was like
that the bitter end changes some things I

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can't remember. I say, just
do spoiler alert. Okay, yeah,

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okay, honestly skip honestly skip ahead, or if you don't care, it's

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just it's just a TV show,
like, okay, a movie. But

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I know, but you're going to
invest yourself in all these episodes and there

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is a major twist at them a
spoiler, but just give a spoiler,

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right. So the twist, the
twist at the end is this this family

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that she's gone on and on about
how much she loves them and how they're

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so great to her and how they
get along beautifully, and the whole premise

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is that like, yes, she's
had these problems with the Barnett's, but

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now that she's with this other family
that loves her, she's defended. And

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at the very end, these people
are like she's psycho and she's like tried

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to hurt our family and she we
kicked her out, like we want nothing

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to do with her. Got oh
my god. But here's the thing that

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I think Warrant's conversation, which is
that through the whole thing, I think

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they've painted it very black and white. It's like you either now. I

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think that for sure, Natalia grace
Is was obviously and I think this clears

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up the fact that she was a
child when she was adopted. I think

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she had major trauma. Yes,
she was adopted and then given away and

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then used as like a pond to
probably you know the couple, the couple

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with dwarfism that really wanted her.
I remember, I think from the first

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special, I'm pretty sure that they
were. They were trying to get them

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to they were like extorting them.
They were trying to get them to come

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up with money for her. Who's
they do you remember that either the adoption

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agency, there was like a thing
involved with like who was going to pay

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money for her? Which is I
think illegal? Oh yeah, they wanted

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to. I'm pretty sure the couple
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her a home, that was visiting
with her, I think they wanted them

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to pay money. That couple then
there was another couple though before that that

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also had dwarfism. I think you
might recall from this is from the first

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series where the guy was like a
bad feeling about her. Remember they liked

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her and the mom wanted her,
and then the dad was like, something's

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not right and we don't want her, okay, So then the when the

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by the time the Barnett's got her, she'd been in and out of a

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bunch of homes. Now, this
doesn't take away from the fact that Christine

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Barnett is absolutely fucking Nightmara. Yes, bad person, child abuser, like

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it was a really bad situation,
right, but these things are not mutually

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exclusive. That I did think right
from the beginning that this girl had that

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radical attachment disorder which we have talked
about before, which I saw a TV

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movie about it many years ago.
And you know, everything with me comes

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back to a TV movie that I've
seen after how special. That's how you

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got your license exactly, Yes,
my medical my psychology degree, and they

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let you go because you watch the
TV movies of the week. Yeah,

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And they asked me, they asked
me a bunch of questions about it,

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and I remember the pertinent a lot
of it. Yeah, and everything he

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answered the right questions. You know
how you study for a permit test,

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but it doesn't really matter the actual
online class you go to. What matters

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is doing the quizlets bafterwards to go
into the DMV to get your permit.

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It's like that, right, Okay, So don't I forgot who started in

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this movie, but it is crazy
and it is basically about this little girl

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who is adopted and then they find
her in the bedroom like she's cheat with

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the knife and she's nice putting pins, she's hurting the dog like it's like

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a bad, bad situation, and
she seems so sweet, but she's like

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fucked up from early trauma. Oh
okay. So then the mother in this

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story goes and tries to find out
the history of it's a little girl and

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a little brother, and it turns
out that the mother, the biological mother,

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had just left the kids for like
days on end and for themselves when

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the little girl was like three and
the baby brother was a baby in a

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playpen, and they when they found
these kids, she hadn't been fed,

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she'd been like fending for herself,
and the baby was just like had horrible,

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horrible like hardcore diaper rash, like
open sores, and the kids had

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just been basically like neglected abandoned.
So cut to even though these parents are

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giving this girl like a nice home, she's got this thing called rad and

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they and they take her to doctors
and psychiatrists and like nothing is helping her.

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And then they do this alternative treatment
do you remember this, and where

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they have to hold her called holding
therapy, and they and the girl is

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so bad, like she's dangerous.
The parents they have to put a lock

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on the door of the little brother
and of the parents. They have to

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lock their door at night so she
can't get in because she's hiding knives under

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her pillow, you know, and
she has really bad thoughts she wants to

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like she's like higicidal, So the
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and go stay with like where this
where this treatment, it's like this new

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treatment, this holding therapy, and
they have to she has to hold her

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and like the girl screams and has
like you know, thrashes around and it

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takes you know, like months and
months and months and months of doing this

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holding therapy with her like every day
until like something changing in her brain and

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I think, and that girl is
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she's adapted and is living a normal
basically a normal life. But it

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took like years, like they and
I don't think the mom was ever really

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able to like bring the girl back
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My point is I remember thinking this
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like some of the ways that when
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very adult and very and she seemed
really smart. I was like, and

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they were just describing her as manipulative. I was like, okay, two

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things and sexual from sexual abuse.
I was like, these two things can

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be true. She could be saying
all these sexual things, and she could

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be being manipulative and pretending and having
a knight and showing up in the room

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with a knife in her hand.
She could also be suffering from radical attachment

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disorder and nobody's helping her. Nobody, that's the thing this girl had did

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not And they're instead of understanding that
she has had massive trauma and is not

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being cared for and was left to
her own devices and like had massive probably

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chronic pain and was just being told
to all of this stuff instead of having

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any empathy for her. They were
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and then they abandon her, and
then they these Barnetts are insane and she

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should have ended up with the family
that has the dwarf the dwarf ism.

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they I think they would have been able

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to deal with her trauma better.
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early trauma. I think she came
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They said something about orphans do have
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a lot of but not all of
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before they get them like set up
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kind of process where they have to
have therapy and you know, be seen

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by psychia because because those they don't
know, because she's in this Ukraine but

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a mentor where they don't even have
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that she gets shipped to the United
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her. I don't think that there
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of social things in place to go. Okay, this girl probably have a

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lot of trauma, so she's just
expected to behave and these some of these

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kids that are adopted, and we
have a lot of listeners who have adopted

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multiple kids, right Rebecca and Elizabeth
Williamson, Like some of these kids they

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need a lot of help and services
that they're not getting right, and they

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come with trauma and they have a
lot of special needs. And these moms

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like fight the system like it's hard. It is, yes, And I

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think this this Natalia, she ended
up with a family that just I do

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believe that Christine Barnett is a nut
job. Oh my god, out of

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her fucking mind. And both,
like you said, both and his dad

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same and you know, like when
I was watching that interview their or their

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their meeting, their second meeting,
and it like they really like hashed everything

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out towards the very end, I
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Like why I just felt like I
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guy, he's got his head down, he's like doing all this like he's

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like also like oh it's a victim
to and blah blah blah, shut the

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fuck up, like you got to
understand half. So he like didn't seem

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like yet any empathy like she needed, I felt like, And so instead

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she got up and was like,
can I pray with you? I felt

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like she was getting just gonna want
to. I thought she was gonna try

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to get a hug. That's what
I thought, because I was feeling like,

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dude, get up and hug her, like, oh, I'm sorry

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this like you know, like really
come like come with some fucking sympathy,

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you know, like it just was. It was such that moment just really

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bothered me. But you're right,
I think you know a lot. And

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then because there are reports from hospitals
and stuff that were saying the things that

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she was doing that was inappropriate and
stuff like that. But she was also

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put in uh like the mental hospital
on the adult side, and probably she's

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probably been molested like many times,
yes, you know. But instead of

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when when she's seeing these inappropriately sexual
comments, these people are putting a judgment

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on it like, oh my god, she's terrible, like she's she's so

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over overtly sexual type. Well,
why the fuck do you think a six

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year old is acting that way?
Exactly? Why don't you investigate why she's

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acting that way instead of being like
ew, yeah, she's saying sexual stuff,

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like she what the I was just
like where's the adults with brains?

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Oh my god, didn't you fall
in love? And from the first special

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two with the Nancy Grace type woman
her legal expert, Yes, I was

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like obsessed. I would and followed
her on Facebook. I love you need

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to get her on our show.
Yeah, she don't forget the first time

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we watched this, she was like, the girl has fucking baby teeth.

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Yeah, what part of it's been
established? Like stop being crazy and say

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that Harris? Is that her name? Beth? No, it wasn't Harris.

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It was like, oh my god, will you look up legal expert

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from Natalia Grace? Yes, she
was great. She was great, very

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Nancy Grace esque. Yes, but
in like a calm way. Yeah.

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And like one point where they said
that the the mother said like we called

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her a dwarf for something, and
she's like, what's wrong with you?

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Who says that? You know?
Like, yeah, I loved her,

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I loved her, And yeah she
narrated like she was really good at doing

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the narration for the throughout the whole. Unfortunately, in the first series she'd

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they're trying to make you think that
it is possible the whole first one was

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more exploitive because they were trying to
let you think that she was an adult

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and that it was kind of like
the movie Orphan, And so if you

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have any sense, you're like,
I don't think what would she be doing

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that for? Like okay, But
then when the finally the legal expert didn't

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come in until like episode end of
episode two or three, where she was

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like, guys, everybody relaxed.
She has baby teeth, right like,

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and then she's the one who's sort
of the voice of reason. But by

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then some people who are watching it
are like, well, no, he

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already got no no adult. I
don't want to hear anything. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah is it
Caros, yes, Beth Cross, Yes,

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Kars Yes, so oh I thought
you said Beth Harris Kars. I

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hear it was like a kiss.
Yes, yes, So now can we

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talk about that, like those the
parents that adopted her, I did not

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trust them from the first season.
Well, let's take a quick break and

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talk about Quin's Kayleelyn tell us how
much you love Quins. Yeah, so

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what they right? Well, when
they first came on board, they're like,

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here to pick out a couple of
things and you know, talk about

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it on the show. And I
did and yeah, I actually legitimately became

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obsessed with their clothing. It's just
it's so comfortable. Uh, it's everything

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that I get fits so well,
and it's so reasonably priced. I don't

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understand how like these materials cost this
little. Like it's it's crazy to me.

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And I'm on a mission now to
just pretty much change my entire wardrobe.

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Now I got, like I said, I got a pair for Sunny

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those those pants and performance sweat Performance
sweatpants. He loves them. And they're

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so soft, like they're just and
they got the deep pockets. They got

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the deep pockets. Yeah, they
they're on top of being just comfortable,

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they they just fit really well.
You know, they're not like big baggy

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sweatpants. They're like, you know, they're kind of like tight around the

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legs, but you know, nice
around the waist. I mean again,

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I'm in love with them. I
tried to get more for Christmas. They

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were sold out, of course they
were, so I got the uh the

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performance zip hoodie instead, and now
I'm in love with that now. I

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haven't taken that one off so well. I love my pink, my bubblegum

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pink sweater that is gorgeous. I
get cammed me too all the time.

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That was these sweaters are less than
fifty dollars. Yeah, huh, it's

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crazy. You know, makes a
great gifts. I got cashmere sweaters for

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both Sunny and Italia. They love
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five day returns quins dot com slash
f col. Nice. Yeah. Those

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adoptive parents, yeah, like,
well when I saw them in the first

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season, they kind of teased that
she was taking the They didn't show the

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dad, but they showed the mom, and I didn't trust her, like

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and didn't they say she was using
that those parents were using like her money,

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Yes, yeah, like they were
because they she gets don't they get

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money from I don't know from the
States. Say she was turning it over

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to them and they were like giving
her a place to live though and buying

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food, and she was right,
so I felt. In the first season

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when she said that, I was
like, and then they're videotaping them at

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like this grocery store buying food and
having a good time, and I'm like,

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Okay, this is what's in it
for this woman to take on another

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like this child or whatever. And
then yeah, when she said that,

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I was like, Okay, chit
chang, that makes sense. Then now

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it's I'm not sure because I do. But then I changed my mind in

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season two when I saw the whole
family and then listening to them both talk,

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the dad and the mom and the
kids and blah blah blah, and

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you know, then I changed my
mind. But I was always a little

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like, I don't know, like
I didn't but then now what you tell

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me at the end. Yeah,
but also remember that they have another little

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girl, that they have other kids. Yeah, and remember the Natalia Grace

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also tried to she bit right a
girl, other girl in the home bad

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enough to send her to the hospital, and they still protected her, right

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like, they kept her in the
home. They didn't like get rid of

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her or you know, yeah,
I just she needs to be in a

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place where people understand and can have
equipped. It's getting her the correct therapy.

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Yeah yeah, so yeah, but
so maybe I hope people fast forwarded

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a good How long did we talk
about that? Okay? Anyway, yeah,

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anyway, what else have you been
there? So? I did watch

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the May December. I thought that
was yeah, that was interesting, pretty

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good, right, yeah, it
ends, it's the Yeah, the ending

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was kind of like fell off.
Yeah. I was like, Okay,

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that's that's it. But I felt
like it ended in the middle. Do

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you ever watch movies in your las
You're not gonna like wrap things up right,

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like right, like I know,
I know, I hate that when

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it just ends. I did watch
Mystic River this morning because I woke up

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so early, like one of those
mornings, and I couldn't go back to

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sleep. And then every time I
turn on Netflix, it's like Mystic and

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then they show that scene with Sean
Benn it's my daughter, and I was

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like, oh, I'm slang here
and watch it, maybe fall back asleep.

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But I ended up watching the whole
thing. I forgot how good it

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is. Did you have seen it? Same thing happened to me. I

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just kept seeing it on Netflix till
eventually I had nothing to watch it.

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Go all right, I'm just gonna
watch this Mystic River already, and yeah,

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it's great. It is from like
the early nineties, two thousand,

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I know. I thought it was
earlier too. Yeah, it's like twenty

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ten or something, and I was
like, oh, I mean so,

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yeah, a lot of people are
in it. Mystic River is good.

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I heard the there's a show on
Netflix now. Oh god, I can't

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think of the name of it.
It's new and it's like right up there

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when it first comes out, but
I can't think. And Wendy watch it,

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said it was really good. Kind
at the woman witnesses her husband getting

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murdered. I've seen that one on
there. You did. Yeah, it's

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called not the propos It starts with
a P. I think the prospect Anyway,

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this is great podcasting. But I
did finish The Ultimate Girls Trip on

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fool Me once. Yeah, did
you see it? No, I've seen

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it on there, and I go, I don't know, he hasn't.

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It hasn't got me yet, Wendy
said, is really good. Yeah,

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but uh, I finished The Ultimate
Girls Trip. The last episode was so

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boring. The very end was like, okay, there you go, Luanne.

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Remember the very end? What happens
it ended well spoiler alert Yeah yeah,

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yes, yes, And did you
see the guys butt yes, I'm

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too Ultimate girls trip like you're to
Natalia Grace. Oh yeah, like oh

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yeah I did see the end right
right? Yeah? I thought it was

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It was fun. But what is
I know? Kelly ben Simone just like

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rubs me the wrong way. She
has something in her teeth like this,

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just ramon. It was so irresponsible
at the pool, you know, like

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she talks like there's something in her
mouth, right, but it's wrong?

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And why is her tits up so
high? And is she like engaged to

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some guy or not? She got
hagy about her relationship, cagey about everything.

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Yeah, like okay, but when
she's talking about how she gets tickets

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to the Rangers game, didn't you
didn't it imply that she has a she

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has a boyfriend, right obviously?
I mean, because why else would she's

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not on the Rangers? Sokay,
what else would it be? Right?

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00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:22,559
She never comes out and says it, nobody else says it. But then

408
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:26,920
at one point she's like, didn't
she say like that she has a boyfriend

409
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,759
and nobody's asking her about it?
But I so she annoyed that. She's

410
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:33,240
like, well, I have a
yes, she got only got annoyed with

411
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:36,799
Kristin because she had a beef with
Kristin. And she's like, well,

412
00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:40,640
how come uh Ramona knows about it? And how come you know, uh

413
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:42,759
Derenda knows about it. Everybody else
knows about it, but you never you

414
00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:45,680
don'tant to ask, right, She's
like, you don't want to talk about

415
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,400
it. Also, but like I
feel like in the first episode or so,

416
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:53,200
she's like, oh that she's single, right, right, She basically

417
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,240
implies that she is not with anybody. So I was like, make up

418
00:28:56,279 --> 00:29:00,920
your mind. Kelly's steading up your
mind, and and I know, and

419
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,079
she's like, you know, working, and she's always dating older older what's

420
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:11,200
what these women? And they're old
men money? I just like, sonya,

421
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:15,440
you know. It's like she's talking
about the guy she's dating. Wouldn't

422
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,359
she say he was like eighty nine
or something or I don't know, like

423
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,720
super old, And and Kristen's like, how old is he? She's like,

424
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:25,960
oh, but he's got all his
hair, Like I don't know,

425
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,440
she's like still kind of young.
She doesn't have to go out with I

426
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,240
don't know, know, sometimes I'm
like, wow, these didn't like some

427
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:36,640
of these housewives always seemed old to
me. Even from when I first started

428
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,119
watching, it was like, oh, they're kind of like older women,

429
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:41,720
I mean ten years ago. And
now I'm like, oh, they're at

430
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,240
the same age as me, right, Like I don't know how where I

431
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:47,559
get off. Yeah, these older
women, I'm like, well, I'm

432
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:51,720
an older woman, right. It's
just funny when you're like they've always been

433
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:56,359
sort of cougar attitude, Like anytime
they're out going, like oh my god,

434
00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:00,799
guys, you're like all right,
buland though you know, only like

435
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:04,359
she's a little much with the guys, it's like relaxed. But she looks

436
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:11,160
amazing. She she her body is
like ridiculous and her face like her hair

437
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:14,839
like she I'm always like, god, she really is so pretty. Yeah,

438
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,640
she is aging well, and I
don't think I don't know, I

439
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,119
don't think she needs o zembag.
Right, She's always had that Oh yeah,

440
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,200
she's always looked great. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I just wanted

441
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,400
to say, yeah, in case
any Oh, I have two things.

442
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:34,480
One my kids have like the best
winter break. And I know, I

443
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:37,599
know we've all been like worried a
little bit about like Sadie and Xander and

444
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,559
like do they have friends? And
all these years of me going, oh

445
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,599
my god, I need new school
and you know, but my gosh,

446
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,640
I had like an old school.
Well I didn't, but the kids had

447
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:56,720
one of those old school winter breaks
where they are friendly or good friends with

448
00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:02,079
a girl who turns out lives like
in our neighborhood, Like she's only like

449
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:06,319
six blocks away. She goes to
their school and they're friends with her,

450
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:11,960
and they've gotten better and better friends
with her and her she has a brother

451
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:18,279
who just he was living like out
of the country for a long time,

452
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,920
but he is now here and I
guess he's staying for a year. I

453
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,799
don't really know all the details,
obviously, but the point is they were

454
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:29,480
like a little group. So New
Year's Eve, I think I told you

455
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:33,680
they had friends over New Year's Eve. We've recorded since New Year's Eve,

456
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:37,960
right, yeah, yeah, he
tells, yeah, Okay, So now

457
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,680
they're just hanging out like every day. So during this break, it's like,

458
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,599
oh, so and so is coming
over and we're gonna they went to

459
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,559
go play tennis, and they're like
walking everywhere and like Xander will leave at

460
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:53,119
like noon and then be gone till
nine o'clock at night. And then for

461
00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:57,079
sometimes they're at our house, sometimes
they're over at her house, they're over

462
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,440
at the tennis courts, they're walking
down to the Encino Commons and like getting

463
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:07,920
dinner and he's been having the best
time and Sadie two, although Sadie just

464
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,920
got a cold so she's been home
the last few days. But like just

465
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,960
the little gang of them, and
I love it. I'm just like,

466
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,440
oh, your voice is in the
house, and it's like it's so nice.

467
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:22,400
Nice. Yeah, because it used
to only be Lbie, it had

468
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,160
all the friends, and it used
to have to be so specific of like

469
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,000
each of my friends having like remember
when we would still call it a play

470
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:32,640
date, but like it was like, oh, Xander has a friend coming

471
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,799
over, Okay, Sadie has a
friend coming over. Oh, Sadie's going

472
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:39,680
to a friend's house. It was
like more rare, and now it's just

473
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,279
like just the friends, like the
people like, oh, we're seeing so

474
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:45,640
and so today, Oh we're seeing
so and so today. I love that.

475
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:50,200
And then Xander told me, I
said, so, how are you

476
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,079
feeling about going school starting back up? Because three weeks is a long break,

477
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:59,599
you know, And he said not
that, I'm like, I'm looking

478
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:01,799
forward to it. I was like
what, And I don't know if you

479
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:07,160
remember, but so this is January. But at the end of the toward

480
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,559
the end of the school year last
year or middle of the school year,

481
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,480
he had a hard time and was
like, I want to change schools.

482
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:17,039
I don't like it here. I
don't I'm having some problems with friends.

483
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:23,359
And we we we tucked it out, we worked it through, and then

484
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:30,960
like it turned around toward the end, and then a couple of kids that

485
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:34,920
were problems didn't come back to school
this year. And anyway, this whole

486
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,799
first semester has been like so great
for both my kids us, and Xander

487
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,079
was like, you know what,
like I've had such a great break and

488
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:44,440
I've had so much fun, but
like I kind of can't wait to go

489
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:47,359
back. He's like, school is
not bad, Like I like my classes

490
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:52,480
and I can't wait to like see
all my friends and like see people see

491
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:55,119
people that I wasn't seeing all the
time, like on a regular basis again

492
00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:02,359
and like I like, well,
yeah, And then Sadie has had a

493
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:08,000
cold the last few days, not
COVID, and I was a little bit.

494
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,559
It has. It's not that bad. It hasn't been like a super

495
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:13,920
bad coffee. And you have a
cold? Did she get it from you?

496
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:15,960
I don't know because mine's been over
for a while. But and she

497
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:20,639
had a flu shot, so it's
not the flu. I mean it could

498
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,119
be. But he's like a sore
throat right now. Yeah. But yesterday

499
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:30,599
I was like, but Sadie used
to like at any chance to stay home.

500
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,440
You know how many mental health days
I had to give Sadie because she

501
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:38,000
just hated school so much. Oh
my gosh. I was like, Okay,

502
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:40,880
so how are you feeling? And
she goes, I'm fine. I

503
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,599
was like, dou She's like,
I mean I have a cold, but

504
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,599
like not enough to stay home from
school, Like I don't want to miss

505
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:52,719
the first day back from the break. Wow. Wow, are you That's

506
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,199
what I done with my other depressed, hating school child. That's awesome,

507
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,519
I know, especially for this role
has been really good for her. See

508
00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:07,000
that's nice. Like they found their
place. That's so great. Yeah,

509
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:13,199
And I mean we dealt with in
some ways. I'm grateful that I moved

510
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:19,960
them from so post COVID. Once
we went back to school, that school

511
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,239
wasn't as great anymore. I think
I remember telling you that the principal and

512
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:28,840
had changed. The principal and the
assistant principal who we loved had changed.

513
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,000
This was their middle school seventh grade. They stayed home all for COVID.

514
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:36,960
Eighth grade, they started back at
that school. They weren't super happy,

515
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:45,880
and then Lilah Crocodile moved to the
big local middle school and so Xander wanted

516
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,599
to follow, and Sadie was like
so disaffected that she was like, whatever,

517
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:52,679
I'll go to I don't want to
be back anyway. And that was

518
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,480
a total disaster for both of them, except that then Xander made his friend

519
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,119
with the famous mom, who then
ghost to them. We all know the

520
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:07,440
story, but Sadie, Sadie had
such a hard time if you recall that,

521
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,719
that really brought to light. I
think some of her mental health issues

522
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:16,880
Prussian and that's when she saw the
psychiatrist and she got on meds and so

523
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:22,920
toward the end of that year was
fine and then but ninth grade has been

524
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,480
so different for her. And then
now tenth grade, I mean, I

525
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,400
have like different kids. Yeah,
it's nice, it's just so good.

526
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:32,920
Yeah, in case anybody's wondering.
Yeah, well, let's take a break

527
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:38,000
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545
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Yeah, we're back. Oh.
I did want to just have one

546
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,719
quick, little funny story, and
it's probably not even gonna be that funny

547
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,599
because I don't remember too many details. But I did the most insane podcast,

548
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:19,719
so I've done it. That was
really good podcasts that I've been on.

549
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,840
I was just on Alison Rosen is
your new best friend? Oh nice,

550
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,360
and she's coming on our show.
Okay. We talked for so long

551
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:31,119
and got like super personal wow,
oh yeah, yeah, she's an interview

552
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:37,280
or she's fun and she also is
like no filth. She's like, uh,

553
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:43,320
like I didn't realize how much not
she'll tell she'll tell you, because

554
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,880
later afterwards I was like, wow, you went there, and she was

555
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,320
like, oh yeah, I've always
like I don't care. Yeah. So

556
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,719
she told some really personal stories about
like addiction, Like did you know that

557
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,840
she doesn't drink and hasn't for like
thirteen years or something or yeah, I

558
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,800
think I remember not a big drinker. Yeah at all. I don't remember

559
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,800
her she doesn't drink. But anyway, we talked about a whole lot of

560
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,719
stuff. So that was really fun. And I also did another podcast that

561
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:14,480
I really liked called Hello Someday,
Hello Someday, Hello Someday. Yeah,

562
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:17,559
Hello Someday. And I'm going to
look up this other one that I just

563
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:21,880
did. But anyway, are you
going to the places? Are you doing

564
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,000
them from home? Like they've all
been on zoom? Okay, so but

565
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:30,280
this one, so I get I
get this email that's like, hey,

566
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,480
can you do this? I'm just
gonna say his name because it doesn't really

567
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:43,039
matter. It's like John Cosma,
uh huh okay, like Kozma. It's

568
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:45,960
like three names or whatever. So
I get this email and it's like,

569
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:49,360
hey, do you want to And
it's from like a booker. Okay,

570
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,039
so it's not from the guy.
It's not the guy like reaching out on

571
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:53,320
Instagram and going hey I have a
podcast you want to be on it.

572
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:59,639
It's like from a production company and
you know how sometimes you can sense that

573
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:04,639
thing is for like that somebody's hired
somebody like out of India to do their

574
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,760
like scheduling. It had a tone
of like, Hi, I'm so and

575
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,840
so and I work for so and
so production. It wasn't like great,

576
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,480
it was the way things were worded
sounded a little foreign. And I was

577
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:22,039
and they're like, we would like
to interview you with your book for this

578
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,599
for the Unimpressed podcast, And they
tell me like how many downloads it gets

579
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,280
or whatever. So at first I'm
just like, is this a real podcast?

580
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,079
Even because I don't want to make
the same mistake that you guys remember

581
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:37,320
me yes doing a Patreon about it. So I'm like trying to be a

582
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,880
little more careful about what I go
on. So I'm trying to vet it

583
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,400
a little bit more so anyway,
I would I look it up. It

584
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,280
is a podcast, it's a YouTube, it's a YouTube show. It doesn't

585
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,880
have like a lot of downloads by
any stretch of the imagination. But I

586
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,440
was like, you know, it's
a totally different audience. It's not a

587
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,320
sober po podcast. It's like the
guy just interviews like people that are interesting

588
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,840
to him. Right, So I'm
like I go, all right, I'll

589
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,199
do it, so I have no
idea what to expect. Oh, but

590
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,119
also there's like a team involved,
so, like the guy, I agree

591
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:16,440
to do it. Then I get
another email from like the scheduling person,

592
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,239
and it's like back in, like
there's a lot of questions, okay,

593
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,239
and can you do this time?
And then I say yes. Then they

594
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,880
send me a link, but then
I anyway, it's like a lot,

595
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:30,400
right, it's a lot already,
go on to do the podcast, and

596
00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:37,320
uh, it was the most insane
podcast I've ever done. Okay the guy,

597
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:43,400
and if you watch it, you're
gonna see a lot because you know,

598
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:45,199
I can't. I have the rusting
bitch face as it is, but

599
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,719
I also have the face where I
can't. It's very difficult for me to

600
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,679
be like uh huh. Like this
guy is so into himself. Okay,

601
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:00,199
he's like, oh, I can't
wait to contificate about it. Very he

602
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:07,000
thinks he's just he thinks he's like
Joe Rogan like like, and he tells

603
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:09,840
you like, you know, anybody
that knows me knows that I'm a Clara

604
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:16,480
not clairvoyant. But he calls himself
like a like a Claar cl look and

605
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:21,719
I'm like, uh uh uh huh. First of all, I was trying

606
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,480
to funk with him a little bit, see because it was he was so

607
00:42:24,639 --> 00:42:30,159
fucking humorless. So he's like okay, And first of all, you know

608
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,119
he hadn't read the book like he
had, so he goes to look at

609
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:36,079
like, so what you've written other
books? I'm like, do a fucking

610
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:38,159
moment of homework. You don't even
know who I am at all? Like,

611
00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:43,679
right, so his show is just
interviewing people that he finds interesting or

612
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,559
I don't. There's no like,
I don't think that he finds interesting.

613
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:50,760
I think it's somebody in India that
he's hired to look up people. I

614
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,239
think they just go out to.
His show is just an inner. It's

615
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,679
not like it's an interview. Okay, okay, so he's straight up interview

616
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,639
show. I don't know who the
guy is. I didn't know ahead of

617
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:01,400
time, but I did look him
up ahead of time, and I'm like,

618
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:06,840
okay, so it's just a show. It's on YouTube. Like like

619
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,960
I said, I mean, some
of them had like a thousand downloads and

620
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,800
some of them had way even fewer. But I was like well, what

621
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,920
could it hurt? You know?
A thousand people that I don't know is

622
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,000
a thousand people I don't know,
And I like want to sell this book,

623
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:22,400
you know, so and get the
word out, you know. So

624
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:28,239
he's just like, okay, so
tell me, like tell me about what's

625
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,119
your story basically, and how did
you decide? He eat like the worst

626
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:37,760
interviewer. So I'm like okay,
So I tell him a little bit.

627
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,880
That's the most I talked for the
whole time, because then he was like

628
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:47,920
so, and then he just starts
going on about like I'm telling you that

629
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:52,559
I was getting a lesson in quantum
physics and he's like yeah, and then

630
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:54,440
he would he would stop in the
middle and be like do you understand what

631
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,119
I'm saying? And at one point
I just I said I do not at

632
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:02,400
all, because I couldn't even fake
it. So at one point I was

633
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,039
like, ah, I think so, and he's like, well, what

634
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:08,079
does that mean to you? I
swear to god, oh, I felt

635
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:13,679
like I was in the most boring, like like a college class taught by

636
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,480
a psychotic professor where he's like yeah, so and he's telling me all of

637
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,960
these He's like thinks he's like some
kind of a guru. So he's like,

638
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,480
well, something that I've learned in
my practice of blobbity blah. But

639
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:29,360
you know, I'm a bit of
Anybody that knows me knows that I'm out.

640
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,039
Let's just say it's a clairvoyant.
What is he like, what's his

641
00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:36,719
profession other than podcast hosts? I
don't know? Looking up look at John

642
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,800
Cosma. So he's like, oh
my god, nobody. I guarantee you

643
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,280
nobody here knows him because listen spoiler
alert, as we like to say.

644
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,039
Afterward, I was like, this
guy is like ridiculous. He's acting like

645
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:55,159
he's a big podcaster and he's definitely
not. I can't imagine anybody sitting through

646
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:59,519
this podcast and liking it. So
I go look up how long he's been

647
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,679
Yeah, and podcasting for almost four
years? Okay he started this like March

648
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:10,360
of twenty twenty. Okay, five
reviews, so nobody ain't nobody listening to

649
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,360
this podcast or watching this podcast?
And the five reviews that he had seemed

650
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:21,400
definitely like paid for for people that
are like this one fantastic interviewer. You

651
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,880
bring up a lot of interesting topics, like you know, and then maybe

652
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,760
he spent money on trying to get
some engagement and then was like that's too

653
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,920
expensive. I don't need that,
right, but like not one I think

654
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:37,440
real person. Ever. Anyway,
he talked about himself so much that I

655
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:39,000
was just kind of like half listening. And then he's like, so,

656
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:42,559
do you understand what I'm saying?
And I said, God, I go,

657
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,320
I really don't. I'm gonna be
honest with you. And then at

658
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,320
one point I was just like yes, and no, I didn't go to

659
00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:51,079
I mean, I didn't go to
college. I don't know if a lot

660
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:52,880
of what you're saying is just kind
of over my head. But like and

661
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,239
he's like, well, it's you
know, it's quantum physics. It's all

662
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,360
blah blah blahics quanta physically do anything
to do with my book or me at

663
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,000
all. He was just I swear
to god, I was like the founding

664
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:07,800
board. Yes, he just wanted
somebody to talk at. It was the

665
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:13,880
like that's crazy. The other one
that I complained about on Patreon was a

666
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,320
very big difference, maybe like politically
or socially or like. It was like

667
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:23,480
that was a little bit uncomfortable.
But she was like totally nice and like

668
00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:29,079
right, fine, a fine host, like not talking about herself. No,

669
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,039
this guy was. It was the
craziest experience because I was started to

670
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:36,639
have like an out of body you
know, I'm like watching the time,

671
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:42,519
so it's video too, so I
can't like I'm on video and I'm being

672
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:45,559
video so I'm trying to look like
you ever try to force yourself to look

673
00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:50,960
interested at all? I was my
brain was. I was like, this

674
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,400
guy is freaking using me, Like
he's just podcasting with himself. He doesn't

675
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,599
need me here, so I'm sitting
there and then every once in a while

676
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:00,920
he tries to like check in with
me, but he's like, I don't

677
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,840
feel like you're getting what I'm saying, and I'm like, I'm really not.

678
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:07,639
I'm not. I'm so sorry,
but it's just I'm lost. And

679
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:09,840
then oh my god. But like
I said, the first time he goes,

680
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,000
well, the first time I tried
it, I was like, yeah,

681
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,400
I think I know what you're saying, and he's like, well,

682
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,679
what is it? What am I
saying? Like what does it mean to

683
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:21,679
you? So I was so put
on the spot because I'm like, I

684
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,679
wasn't listening. I was totally lost. So I try to like you're playing

685
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,679
poker in your brain. I was
like, I had a flush, like

686
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,000
you interrupted, like what was about? I was all in? But I

687
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:38,000
so I go, so it was, I swear to god, I felt

688
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,840
like I was caught in school by
the teacher, like not listening. And

689
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,360
then I tried to fake my way
through. So I go, I think

690
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,920
what you're saying is blah blah blah, and he goes, no, that's

691
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,760
not what I'm saying. And I
went, oh, well, I guess

692
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,760
I'm a little lost. So then
he blah blah blah goes on again,

693
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,559
and I was like, yeah,
that's it's interesting, Like yeah, that's

694
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:00,880
really interesting, and he's like,
yeah, well, I mean and then

695
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:07,000
everything he says is like people know
that I'm like, I'm basically he was

696
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:09,320
calling himself an m path without using
the word m path, like he's like,

697
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:14,719
I feel people's feelings. I can
sense what people thinking, what they're

698
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,519
feeling. Like that's how I work
with people, and I coach people,

699
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:20,719
and I know I can leave.
And I was like, I go,

700
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,000
what I'm thinking of a number between
one and ten. I just decided to

701
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,559
have fun with it. I just
started fucking with him. Yeah, and

702
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:30,960
I was like, I believe,
like, listen, you you know,

703
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:36,800
I believe in like psychic and well
because at one point I go, I'm

704
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,159
sorry, I just don't. I
don't believe in like all that wu wu

705
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:40,800
stuff. I go, but I
do believe like psychic you can get on

706
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,280
the same wavelength. And I just
tried to like steal focused for a minute,

707
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,760
and he was like not having this. He was not having it.

708
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:51,320
He had no sense of humor.
He was just like, but like you

709
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,039
know when people when you're fucking with
them a little bit. Now, Oh

710
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:57,639
it's out. Yeah, I think
on his YouTube channel it's not not not

711
00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:01,719
sepisode anyway. Oh bummer, I
guess it hasn't aired it No, he

712
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:07,199
didn't. Okay, oh believe me. When he's gonna air, I'm not

713
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,760
sure. It can't be fast enough. Let me see if the podcast at

714
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,719
least. Oh my god. But
it's so It was so funny because when

715
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:15,840
I was kind of trying to fuck
with him a little bit, like have

716
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:22,800
fun with him, he was like, oh, yeah, that's good.

717
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,920
That's good. You could just see
that I kind of that. He was

718
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:30,239
like not used to that, right, right. It was I want to

719
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,159
say it was uncomfortable, but I
was I'm watching the time, and he

720
00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:36,760
had said it had said it was
a forty five minute interview, but so

721
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,559
now it's forty five minutes, and
I'm like, oh my god, is

722
00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:44,159
it really bad form? If I
just go, I gotta go. I

723
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:46,119
don't wanted to tell about this so
bad. And I was like, okay,

724
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:49,920
I guess just gotta let him talk. And I couldn't. I couldn't

725
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,719
look at my phone. I couldn't
do anything else because I had to.

726
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:59,199
I was freaking Captiva. I sit
there looking at my freaking zoom cam and

727
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:05,159
go my and then mercifully he was
like, okay, well it's been like

728
00:50:05,199 --> 00:50:08,719
a great conversation. That was like
absolutely so great. Okay, you for

729
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:14,599
having me. Your episode is not
out yet, okay, or he just

730
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:16,400
scrapped the whole thing. I don't
know. He did not know. Okay,

731
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,280
I know he was pretty pleased with
himself. Okay, it wasn't I

732
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,480
bet if he started it, he's
got He's got like thirty five thousand YouTube

733
00:50:24,519 --> 00:50:30,760
subscribers, almost thirty thousand followers on
Instagram. I think it's zy very well.

734
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,320
I think it's fake because look at
how many views each individual. Yeah,

735
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,199
it's they they vary one that mostly
around like twenty nine hundred and thirty

736
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:43,639
six hundred. That's but then there's
a couple that's like one point six thousand,

737
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,719
right, but that's the high end
that's after a month. Yeah,

738
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,199
so if you have thirty five thousand
subscribers, you got to figure I think

739
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,960
those numbers are inflated. I think
he bought subscribers because he could have done

740
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,159
that. How are you only getting
six hundred. He's a director producer,

741
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,360
that's what he calls himself, right, and he does have technically have credits

742
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,400
on IMDb, but I didn't I
sure didn't recognize anything on there. But

743
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:10,559
he also calls himself a meta media
partner, TikTok partner and the reluctant shaman.

744
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,079
Oh oh. That was one of
the things he told me that he's

745
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:21,880
a worked with celebrity shamans. I'm
like, okay, those two words work

746
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,280
apart from each other, but like, what's a celebrity Shawman? Like,

747
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:29,000
so much of the stuff he was
saying was just like uh huh, yeah,

748
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,679
okay, oh so the celebrity shamans
And he's like, yeah, I've

749
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:37,960
learned the blah blah blah from celebrity
and everything had a tangent that was just

750
00:51:37,039 --> 00:51:39,840
something even crazier than the last thing
he just said. So I was like,

751
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,239
this is I cannot way cool.
I can't come out, I cannot

752
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,000
wait, I can't wait. Oh
my god. I was the name of

753
00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:55,719
the show. It's John Cosma.
It's called The Unimpressed Podcast. The Unimpressed

754
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,320
Podcast, yeah, which I don't
know why that title, but he like,

755
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,519
yeah, he had like a good
setup with the like his unimpressed behind

756
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:07,239
him, and you know, I
bet you he started into enjoying probably lost

757
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,199
a job or whatever and was like, off, screw it, I'm going

758
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,599
to do my own YouTube ding and
I'm his picture too for his podcast.

759
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:16,639
It's like him standing there with his
hands down and there's like lights coming out

760
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:24,760
to his Instagram. Yeah it was. It was just such an experience.

761
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,159
But I was like, either this
is going to be paid, this is

762
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:31,280
going to be a Patreon And then
I was like, nah, why this

763
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,199
guy is so self involved. He
would never in a million years listen to

764
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,320
my podcast. Yeah. So yeah, even if he'll probably get this is

765
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,840
going to get him some views.
I think it would be funny if my

766
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,880
episode gets like way more views than
anybody that YouTube episode does come out,

767
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,119
I'm just gonna throw it into our
you have, into our Facebook group,

768
00:52:49,199 --> 00:52:51,960
so you know, oh my god, it was it's probably going to be

769
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,159
pretty entertaining. I just I ended
that call and I just walked into John

770
00:52:55,239 --> 00:53:00,079
and I was like, this is
just really worst experience. And right afterwards,

771
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:02,760
and I want to tell you what
the podcast was. But then I

772
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:10,400
had like the best one right after
that. It's called Recovery Mom. I

773
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,760
think it's called Recovery Mom. You
know what, I'm gonna put it on

774
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,639
our Facebook. But her episode,
that episode isn't out yet. But I

775
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,719
get on the air with her and
I'm like, oh my god, I

776
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,639
had the weirdest, like worst experience
before. And then she was like,

777
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,760
oh god, I hope I'm not
like weird. I'm probably weird too,

778
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,000
and it was like the nicest.
It's probably my favorite one. Like that's

779
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:35,920
awesome. Yeah, Recovery Recovery Mom, Sober Mom, Sober Mom. I

780
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,719
let us know when it comes,
okay, I will. Yeah, it's

781
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,920
awesome. Yeah, Okay, well
that's a good note to end on.

782
00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:46,199
Yeah, so okay, right before
we go as always Adam Lerner three one

783
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,639
zero nine nine eight seven zero four
eight. He's a car broker. You

784
00:53:50,639 --> 00:53:54,199
can go to Adam's got a car
for all of your car buying, car

785
00:53:54,280 --> 00:54:00,440
leasing, whatever needs. I'd say
car renting, but obviously not. And

786
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,079
then I think I did everything.
Oh, The Family Skeptical. It's a

787
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:08,199
podcast. It's about raising kids without
religion. It's a it's a fellow,

788
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:13,159
it's a listener of our show who
has a podcast. So let's just support

789
00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:16,880
her a download episode The Family Skeptical
about like a different way to raise kids,

790
00:54:17,039 --> 00:54:21,679
you know. Yeah, and oh
we didn't do Basic Becky. I

791
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,800
love Basic Becky. Yeah, T
shirts, mousepads, coffee mugs, and

792
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,840
the holidays are past, so I'm
sure her she's less crazed. You can

793
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:36,360
like go peruse her website just basic
Becky dot com or find her on Facebook

794
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,880
at Basic Becky. Yeah. I
think I'm gonna get a hold of her.

795
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,639
I have some ideas for T shirts. Oh good, Yeah, all

796
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,199
right, thanks Kaylin. Thanks everybody
follow us on our socials. Yes,

797
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:52,199
I'm at fcol podcast across everywhere.
Go to our YouTube. Check out our

798
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:57,440
YouTube channel and check out all the
clips that we have put on Instagram that

799
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,480
Kaylin has worked so hard on and
yeah, okay you're a parent now,

800
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:07,840
don't f it up. It's a
good let angle.
