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Everybody? It's you know what? You're not coughing? I know, Yeah,
it's finally. I think I had this thing that I've heard a lot
of people say. It's called like the four month cough, And I guess
that's a thing. And I guess I got it because that was about the
amount of time I was coughing. But yeah, it's finally just about over.
Wow. Well congratulations. Yeah, so it only hit me all through
the holidays, So now that the holidays are over, now it can be
nice and relaxing. Yeah. Nice, How is it to be? Yes,
it's nice. It's very nice. Me and Amy went out to dinner
the other nice just to kind of celebrate. Yeah, we went to Ruth
Chris. They have a new one in Long Beach. Yeah. Not not
loud, No not good. Oh yeah, no, well there is a
there is a very nice steakhout. I talked about it on the Patreon episode
where I talked about proposing my plans maybe go to dinner, go down to
the beach, blah blah. So but then I did it on New Year's
Eve. But you know, we're still going out to dinner. So we
were like, and are we gonna go to this really nice steakhouse down there
that we love called five five five? But then they just opened up this
Ruth Chris and I was like, man, it's been a long time since
I've been to a Ruth Chris. So like, let's do that one.
Let's change it up. We always do a lot of the same things,
we go to a lot of the same place, so let's change it up.
So we went there on Saturday, made the reservation for seven. They
didn't see this till like seven forty, so I was already like okay,
uh got there and yeah, we're having some drinks, just having wine.
I had a martini and I had I think, like the best crab cakes
I may have ever had. I loves. Yeah, normally crab cakes they
were kind of ready, you know, but these ones like weren't really ready.
It was just like all crab and so that set the standard like high.
I was like, oh, these are amazing crab cakes. You know,
it's a really weird coincidence or sorry, quinkydink, I just say crab
cakes last night. Oh yeah, our John's sister, my sister in law,
for our holiday, our Christmas present sent us crab cakes and scallops I
got from Chesapeake Bay Seafood Company and I made them last night. Coincidence.
The sauce with the crabcakes awesome. It was. It was just very buttery.
It was mostly just butter, but whatever. They might have put a
little something else in there, but it was. It was good. I
did not expect them to be that good. Yeah, sometimes you get the
crab cakes, you get the side sauce and it's funky and it kind of
ruins the crab cake, at least for me. Mine didn't come with any
sauce. But you know, like when you go to a restaurant. You
get the sauce or whatever, do you get the thing to dip it in,
And sometimes it's really good, and then sometimes they put some shit in
it and it's like, what the what is this like seasoning? Am I
tasting? But so it was good. Yeah, I was just butter sauce.
And then I got the lobster bisk. I love lobster, my favorite
foods in and I haven't had it for a long time. I was so
excited and I got it and I took a bite and I went, hmm,
that wasn't good. That didn't taste good. And then she brought over
pepper and put pepper in it. And then I took another bite and I
go, yeah, I don't I don't think this is very good. And
then I had three bites and I went, yeah, this is horrible.
And I just didn't eat it, and I was like really Yeah. She
came by, She's like, how is it. I'm like, I didn't
care for it. So there's just a full bowl of lobster bisks. No.
Yah. Do you think it was something went bad in it or just
I was kind of worried that it was, especially after that story you told
her the crab get and I was like, there might be something bad in
it, But did you tell the server? No? I didn't really.
I didn't want to, like, oh take away. I didn't want to.
Was just like, you know what, I already had an appetizer and
I'm getting a steak, so just it's okay, yeah, I'll call this
one. So then we got our steaks. I got a ribby and Amy
got a filet. And the last time we went to a steakhouse, which
was five five five, which I mentioned, we didn't have the greatest experience
there. It was like they forgot my oysters that I ordered, and they
mixed up our how we eat our steaks. I get my medium rare,
she gets her medium. They flip flopped them. So we were like,
oh bummer. So we order our steaks this time, same way. They
flip flop them again. At Ruth Chris, I go, what are the
chances of that happening? Yeah? And I go, you know what,
Okay, I am going to send him back this time. So I send
him back. They came back again. Mine was fine, but I went
through a little phase a couple months ago where I was like making my own
steaks where I was like searing them and doing it and I was eating the
ribbi, going like I think like I could make this. I think I
could make this for like twenty bucks, whereas this costs like you know,
and then the fifty probably more. It was like seventy oh. And then
even after they sent it back, they fucked up her cooking. It was
still like more on the like medium, it was still like really red,
and so they kind of fucked up her steak again. And at that point
we were just like, you know what, we're still having fun because we
get some wine. We were like it was still fun. But yeah,
yeah, I was like, we're not coming back to Ruth Chris, and
this is not a good experience. Yeah. But then we did go out,
like I said, to the bar where we first met, sat down
at the same spot where we had our first date, left that bar,
went to the other bar that we went to on our first date. So
we still did that too. Nice. Good, I'm happy for you guys.
It was a nice night. Yeah, maybe don't go to Ruth Chris.
Do we get to be bridesmaids? Yeah? I don't know. And
he's got a lot of friends. I think I'm one of her, like
closer friend, I mean in my mind pretty tight, Like I will like
a Facebook post, you know, so I'm sure I'm gonna make the top.
Yeah, I don't know about you, Lynette. I don't know liked
as many posts as I have. Maybe maybe, I mean, like I
could do like I could plan the you know, the the striplor up exactly,
just the strippers part of it. I don't even know where we go.
We don't go anywhere right at your place? But yeah, well that's
nice. Yeah, so let's should we talk about Natalia Grace? Oh my
god? That did you watch it? Kilin? I didn't see. I
was too busy watching anime. Did you watch the did you watch you watched
the first Natalia Grace though? Right? I didn't. No, I didn't
think it was up your alley. Yeah. I saw a couple other movies
too, but I don't think they're going to be up your ally either.
Yeah, all right, I don't know how we can talk about it though
without a major spoiler. Well, okay, well we're gonna have. Let's
just talk about the fact that what's this Oh what would be a spoil?
I mean, the spoiler is how it ends how it I forgot how it
ended. I was falling asleep because I watched it last night because I knew
we were going to talk about it, and I got to the almost bitter
end. Okay, you got to get to the bitter end, but I
saw it. But I was like that the bitter end changes some things I
can't remember. I say, just do spoiler alert. Okay, yeah,
okay, honestly skip honestly skip ahead, or if you don't care, it's
just it's just a TV show, like, okay, a movie. But
I know, but you're going to invest yourself in all these episodes and there
is a major twist at them a spoiler, but just give a spoiler,
right. So the twist, the twist at the end is this this family
that she's gone on and on about how much she loves them and how they're
so great to her and how they get along beautifully, and the whole premise
is that like, yes, she's had these problems with the Barnett's, but
now that she's with this other family that loves her, she's defended. And
at the very end, these people are like she's psycho and she's like tried
to hurt our family and she we kicked her out, like we want nothing
to do with her. Got oh my god. But here's the thing that
I think Warrant's conversation, which is that through the whole thing, I think
they've painted it very black and white. It's like you either now. I
think that for sure, Natalia grace Is was obviously and I think this clears
up the fact that she was a child when she was adopted. I think
she had major trauma. Yes, she was adopted and then given away and
then used as like a pond to probably you know the couple, the couple
with dwarfism that really wanted her. I remember, I think from the first
special, I'm pretty sure that they were. They were trying to get them
to they were like extorting them. They were trying to get them to come
up with money for her. Who's they do you remember that either the adoption
agency, there was like a thing involved with like who was going to pay
money for her? Which is I think illegal? Oh yeah, they wanted
to. I'm pretty sure the couple that really wanted her, that was giving
her a home, that was visiting with her, I think they wanted them
to pay money. That couple then there was another couple though before that that
also had dwarfism. I think you might recall from this is from the first
series where the guy was like a bad feeling about her. Remember they liked
her and the mom wanted her, and then the dad was like, something's
not right and we don't want her, okay, So then the when the
by the time the Barnett's got her, she'd been in and out of a
bunch of homes. Now, this doesn't take away from the fact that Christine
Barnett is absolutely fucking Nightmara. Yes, bad person, child abuser, like
it was a really bad situation, right, but these things are not mutually
exclusive. That I did think right from the beginning that this girl had that
radical attachment disorder which we have talked about before, which I saw a TV
movie about it many years ago. And you know, everything with me comes
back to a TV movie that I've seen after how special. That's how you
got your license exactly, Yes, my medical my psychology degree, and they
let you go because you watch the TV movies of the week. Yeah,
And they asked me, they asked me a bunch of questions about it,
and I remember the pertinent a lot of it. Yeah, and everything he
answered the right questions. You know how you study for a permit test,
but it doesn't really matter the actual online class you go to. What matters
is doing the quizlets bafterwards to go into the DMV to get your permit.
It's like that, right, Okay, So don't I forgot who started in
this movie, but it is crazy and it is basically about this little girl
who is adopted and then they find her in the bedroom like she's cheat with
the knife and she's nice putting pins, she's hurting the dog like it's like
a bad, bad situation, and she seems so sweet, but she's like
fucked up from early trauma. Oh okay. So then the mother in this
story goes and tries to find out the history of it's a little girl and
a little brother, and it turns out that the mother, the biological mother,
had just left the kids for like days on end and for themselves when
the little girl was like three and the baby brother was a baby in a
playpen, and they when they found these kids, she hadn't been fed,
she'd been like fending for herself, and the baby was just like had horrible,
horrible like hardcore diaper rash, like open sores, and the kids had
just been basically like neglected abandoned. So cut to even though these parents are
giving this girl like a nice home, she's got this thing called rad and
they and they take her to doctors and psychiatrists and like nothing is helping her.
And then they do this alternative treatment do you remember this, and where
they have to hold her called holding therapy, and they and the girl is
so bad, like she's dangerous. The parents they have to put a lock
on the door of the little brother and of the parents. They have to
lock their door at night so she can't get in because she's hiding knives under
her pillow, you know, and she has really bad thoughts she wants to
like she's like higicidal, So the mom has to move out of the house
and go stay with like where this where this treatment, it's like this new
treatment, this holding therapy, and they have to she has to hold her
and like the girl screams and has like you know, thrashes around and it
takes you know, like months and months and months and months of doing this
holding therapy with her like every day until like something changing in her brain and
I think, and that girl is now like a healthy pretty well you know,
she's adapted and is living a normal basically a normal life. But it
took like years, like they and I don't think the mom was ever really
able to like bring the girl back into the home. But she's doing okay.
My point is I remember thinking this a lot about in Italian grace,
like some of the ways that when they described the way she acted was like
very adult and very and she seemed really smart. I was like, and
they were just describing her as manipulative. I was like, okay, two
things and sexual from sexual abuse. I was like, these two things can
be true. She could be saying all these sexual things, and she could
be being manipulative and pretending and having a knight and showing up in the room
with a knife in her hand. She could also be suffering from radical attachment
disorder and nobody's helping her. Nobody, that's the thing this girl had did
not And they're instead of understanding that she has had massive trauma and is not
being cared for and was left to her own devices and like had massive probably
chronic pain and was just being told to all of this stuff instead of having
any empathy for her. They were trying to punish it out of her,
and then they abandon her, and then they these Barnetts are insane and she
should have ended up with the family that has the dwarf the dwarf ism.
Yeah, and I don't know that they I think they would have been able
to deal with her trauma better. Yeah, she still would have had that
early trauma. I think she came to the Barnetts with radical attachment disorder.
They said something about orphans do have a lot of trauma. They do have
a lot of but not all of them end up practice. But don't they
before they get them like set up for adoption, they don't they have some
kind of process where they have to have therapy and you know, be seen
by psychia because because those they don't know, because she's in this Ukraine but
a mentor where they don't even have enough people to deal with it. So
that she gets shipped to the United States, you know, the family wants
her. I don't think that there is a lot of money and a lot
of social things in place to go. Okay, this girl probably have a
lot of trauma, so she's just expected to behave and these some of these
kids that are adopted, and we have a lot of listeners who have adopted
multiple kids, right Rebecca and Elizabeth Williamson, Like some of these kids they
need a lot of help and services that they're not getting right, and they
come with trauma and they have a lot of special needs. And these moms
like fight the system like it's hard. It is, yes, And I
think this this Natalia, she ended up with a family that just I do
believe that Christine Barnett is a nut job. Oh my god, out of
her fucking mind. And both, like you said, both and his dad
same and you know, like when I was watching that interview their or their
their meeting, their second meeting, and it like they really like hashed everything
out towards the very end, I felt like she needed a hug from him,
Like why I just felt like I wanted to hug her. Like this
guy, he's got his head down, he's like doing all this like he's
like also like oh it's a victim to and blah blah blah, shut the
fuck up, like you got to understand half. So he like didn't seem
like yet any empathy like she needed, I felt like, And so instead
she got up and was like, can I pray with you? I felt
like she was getting just gonna want to. I thought she was gonna try
to get a hug. That's what I thought, because I was feeling like,
dude, get up and hug her, like, oh, I'm sorry
this like you know, like really come like come with some fucking sympathy,
you know, like it just was. It was such that moment just really
bothered me. But you're right, I think you know a lot. And
then because there are reports from hospitals and stuff that were saying the things that
she was doing that was inappropriate and stuff like that. But she was also
put in uh like the mental hospital on the adult side, and probably she's
probably been molested like many times, yes, you know. But instead of
when when she's seeing these inappropriately sexual comments, these people are putting a judgment
on it like, oh my god, she's terrible, like she's she's so
over overtly sexual type. Well, why the fuck do you think a six
year old is acting that way? Exactly? Why don't you investigate why she's
acting that way instead of being like ew, yeah, she's saying sexual stuff,
like she what the I was just like where's the adults with brains?
Oh my god, didn't you fall in love? And from the first special
two with the Nancy Grace type woman her legal expert, Yes, I was
like obsessed. I would and followed her on Facebook. I love you need
to get her on our show. Yeah, she don't forget the first time
we watched this, she was like, the girl has fucking baby teeth.
Yeah, what part of it's been established? Like stop being crazy and say
that Harris? Is that her name? Beth? No, it wasn't Harris.
It was like, oh my god, will you look up legal expert
from Natalia Grace? Yes, she was great. She was great, very
Nancy Grace esque. Yes, but in like a calm way. Yeah.
And like one point where they said that the the mother said like we called
her a dwarf for something, and she's like, what's wrong with you?
Who says that? You know? Like, yeah, I loved her,
I loved her, And yeah she narrated like she was really good at doing
the narration for the throughout the whole. Unfortunately, in the first series she'd
they're trying to make you think that it is possible the whole first one was
more exploitive because they were trying to let you think that she was an adult
and that it was kind of like the movie Orphan, And so if you
have any sense, you're like, I don't think what would she be doing
that for? Like okay, But then when the finally the legal expert didn't
come in until like episode end of episode two or three, where she was
like, guys, everybody relaxed. She has baby teeth, right like,
and then she's the one who's sort of the voice of reason. But by
then some people who are watching it are like, well, no, he
already got no no adult. I don't want to hear anything. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah is it Caros, yes, Beth Cross, Yes,
Kars Yes, so oh I thought you said Beth Harris Kars. I
hear it was like a kiss. Yes, yes, So now can we
talk about that, like those the parents that adopted her, I did not
trust them from the first season. Well, let's take a quick break and
talk about Quin's Kayleelyn tell us how much you love Quins. Yeah, so
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obsessed with their clothing. It's just it's so comfortable. Uh, it's everything
that I get fits so well, and it's so reasonably priced. I don't
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Now I got, like I said, I got a pair for Sunny
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five day returns quins dot com slash f col. Nice. Yeah. Those
adoptive parents, yeah, like, well when I saw them in the first
season, they kind of teased that she was taking the They didn't show the
dad, but they showed the mom, and I didn't trust her, like
and didn't they say she was using that those parents were using like her money,
Yes, yeah, like they were because they she gets don't they get
money from I don't know from the States. Say she was turning it over
to them and they were like giving her a place to live though and buying
food, and she was right, so I felt. In the first season
when she said that, I was like, and then they're videotaping them at
like this grocery store buying food and having a good time, and I'm like,
Okay, this is what's in it for this woman to take on another
like this child or whatever. And then yeah, when she said that,
I was like, Okay, chit chang, that makes sense. Then now
it's I'm not sure because I do. But then I changed my mind in
season two when I saw the whole family and then listening to them both talk,
the dad and the mom and the kids and blah blah blah, and
you know, then I changed my mind. But I was always a little
like, I don't know, like I didn't but then now what you tell
me at the end. Yeah, but also remember that they have another little
girl, that they have other kids. Yeah, and remember the Natalia Grace
also tried to she bit right a girl, other girl in the home bad
enough to send her to the hospital, and they still protected her, right
like, they kept her in the home. They didn't like get rid of
her or you know, yeah, I just she needs to be in a
place where people understand and can have equipped. It's getting her the correct therapy.
Yeah yeah, so yeah, but so maybe I hope people fast forwarded
a good How long did we talk about that? Okay? Anyway, yeah,
anyway, what else have you been there? So? I did watch
the May December. I thought that was yeah, that was interesting, pretty
good, right, yeah, it ends, it's the Yeah, the ending
was kind of like fell off. Yeah. I was like, Okay,
that's that's it. But I felt like it ended in the middle. Do
you ever watch movies in your las You're not gonna like wrap things up right,
like right, like I know, I know, I hate that when
it just ends. I did watch Mystic River this morning because I woke up
so early, like one of those mornings, and I couldn't go back to
sleep. And then every time I turn on Netflix, it's like Mystic and
then they show that scene with Sean Benn it's my daughter, and I was
like, oh, I'm slang here and watch it, maybe fall back asleep.
But I ended up watching the whole thing. I forgot how good it
is. Did you have seen it? Same thing happened to me. I
just kept seeing it on Netflix till eventually I had nothing to watch it.
Go all right, I'm just gonna watch this Mystic River already, and yeah,
it's great. It is from like the early nineties, two thousand,
I know. I thought it was earlier too. Yeah, it's like twenty
ten or something, and I was like, oh, I mean so,
yeah, a lot of people are in it. Mystic River is good.
I heard the there's a show on Netflix now. Oh god, I can't
think of the name of it. It's new and it's like right up there
when it first comes out, but I can't think. And Wendy watch it,
said it was really good. Kind at the woman witnesses her husband getting
murdered. I've seen that one on there. You did. Yeah, it's
called not the propos It starts with a P. I think the prospect Anyway,
this is great podcasting. But I did finish The Ultimate Girls Trip on
fool Me once. Yeah, did you see it? No, I've seen
it on there, and I go, I don't know, he hasn't.
It hasn't got me yet, Wendy said, is really good. Yeah,
but uh, I finished The Ultimate Girls Trip. The last episode was so
boring. The very end was like, okay, there you go, Luanne.
Remember the very end? What happens it ended well spoiler alert Yeah yeah,
yes, yes, And did you see the guys butt yes, I'm
too Ultimate girls trip like you're to Natalia Grace. Oh yeah, like oh
yeah I did see the end right right? Yeah? I thought it was
It was fun. But what is I know? Kelly ben Simone just like
rubs me the wrong way. She has something in her teeth like this,
just ramon. It was so irresponsible at the pool, you know, like
she talks like there's something in her mouth, right, but it's wrong?
And why is her tits up so high? And is she like engaged to
some guy or not? She got hagy about her relationship, cagey about everything.
Yeah, like okay, but when she's talking about how she gets tickets
to the Rangers game, didn't you didn't it imply that she has a she
has a boyfriend, right obviously? I mean, because why else would she's
not on the Rangers? Sokay, what else would it be? Right?
She never comes out and says it, nobody else says it. But then
at one point she's like, didn't she say like that she has a boyfriend
and nobody's asking her about it? But I so she annoyed that. She's
like, well, I have a yes, she got only got annoyed with
Kristin because she had a beef with Kristin. And she's like, well,
how come uh Ramona knows about it? And how come you know, uh
Derenda knows about it. Everybody else knows about it, but you never you
don'tant to ask, right, She's like, you don't want to talk about
it. Also, but like I feel like in the first episode or so,
she's like, oh that she's single, right, right, She basically
implies that she is not with anybody. So I was like, make up
your mind. Kelly's steading up your mind, and and I know, and
she's like, you know, working, and she's always dating older older what's
what these women? And they're old men money? I just like, sonya,
you know. It's like she's talking about the guy she's dating. Wouldn't
she say he was like eighty nine or something or I don't know, like
super old, And and Kristen's like, how old is he? She's like,
oh, but he's got all his hair, Like I don't know,
she's like still kind of young. She doesn't have to go out with I
don't know, know, sometimes I'm like, wow, these didn't like some
of these housewives always seemed old to me. Even from when I first started
watching, it was like, oh, they're kind of like older women,
I mean ten years ago. And now I'm like, oh, they're at
the same age as me, right, Like I don't know how where I
get off. Yeah, these older women, I'm like, well, I'm
an older woman, right. It's just funny when you're like they've always been
sort of cougar attitude, Like anytime they're out going, like oh my god,
guys, you're like all right, buland though you know, only like
she's a little much with the guys, it's like relaxed. But she looks
amazing. She she her body is like ridiculous and her face like her hair
like she I'm always like, god, she really is so pretty. Yeah,
she is aging well, and I don't think I don't know, I
don't think she needs o zembag. Right, She's always had that Oh yeah,
she's always looked great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just wanted
to say, yeah, in case any Oh, I have two things.
One my kids have like the best winter break. And I know, I
know we've all been like worried a little bit about like Sadie and Xander and
like do they have friends? And all these years of me going, oh
my god, I need new school and you know, but my gosh,
I had like an old school. Well I didn't, but the kids had
one of those old school winter breaks where they are friendly or good friends with
a girl who turns out lives like in our neighborhood, Like she's only like
six blocks away. She goes to their school and they're friends with her,
and they've gotten better and better friends with her and her she has a brother
who just he was living like out of the country for a long time,
but he is now here and I guess he's staying for a year. I
don't really know all the details, obviously, but the point is they were
like a little group. So New Year's Eve, I think I told you
they had friends over New Year's Eve. We've recorded since New Year's Eve,
right, yeah, yeah, he tells, yeah, Okay, So now
they're just hanging out like every day. So during this break, it's like,
oh, so and so is coming over and we're gonna they went to
go play tennis, and they're like walking everywhere and like Xander will leave at
like noon and then be gone till nine o'clock at night. And then for
sometimes they're at our house, sometimes they're over at her house, they're over
at the tennis courts, they're walking down to the Encino Commons and like getting
dinner and he's been having the best time and Sadie two, although Sadie just
got a cold so she's been home the last few days. But like just
the little gang of them, and I love it. I'm just like,
oh, your voice is in the house, and it's like it's so nice.
Nice. Yeah, because it used to only be Lbie, it had
all the friends, and it used to have to be so specific of like
each of my friends having like remember when we would still call it a play
date, but like it was like, oh, Xander has a friend coming
over, Okay, Sadie has a friend coming over. Oh, Sadie's going
to a friend's house. It was like more rare, and now it's just
like just the friends, like the people like, oh, we're seeing so
and so today, Oh we're seeing so and so today. I love that.
And then Xander told me, I said, so, how are you
feeling about going school starting back up? Because three weeks is a long break,
you know, And he said not that, I'm like, I'm looking
forward to it. I was like what, And I don't know if you
remember, but so this is January. But at the end of the toward
the end of the school year last year or middle of the school year,
he had a hard time and was like, I want to change schools.
I don't like it here. I don't I'm having some problems with friends.
And we we we tucked it out, we worked it through, and then
like it turned around toward the end, and then a couple of kids that
were problems didn't come back to school this year. And anyway, this whole
first semester has been like so great for both my kids us, and Xander
was like, you know what, like I've had such a great break and
I've had so much fun, but like I kind of can't wait to go
back. He's like, school is not bad, Like I like my classes
and I can't wait to like see all my friends and like see people see
people that I wasn't seeing all the time, like on a regular basis again
and like I like, well, yeah, And then Sadie has had a
cold the last few days, not COVID, and I was a little bit.
It has. It's not that bad. It hasn't been like a super
bad coffee. And you have a cold? Did she get it from you?
I don't know because mine's been over for a while. But and she
had a flu shot, so it's not the flu. I mean it could
be. But he's like a sore throat right now. Yeah. But yesterday
I was like, but Sadie used to like at any chance to stay home.
You know how many mental health days I had to give Sadie because she
just hated school so much. Oh my gosh. I was like, Okay,
so how are you feeling? And she goes, I'm fine. I
was like, dou She's like, I mean I have a cold, but
like not enough to stay home from school, Like I don't want to miss
the first day back from the break. Wow. Wow, are you That's
what I done with my other depressed, hating school child. That's awesome,
I know, especially for this role has been really good for her. See
that's nice. Like they found their place. That's so great. Yeah,
And I mean we dealt with in some ways. I'm grateful that I moved
them from so post COVID. Once we went back to school, that school
wasn't as great anymore. I think I remember telling you that the principal and
had changed. The principal and the assistant principal who we loved had changed.
This was their middle school seventh grade. They stayed home all for COVID.
Eighth grade, they started back at that school. They weren't super happy,
and then Lilah Crocodile moved to the big local middle school and so Xander wanted
to follow, and Sadie was like so disaffected that she was like, whatever,
I'll go to I don't want to be back anyway. And that was
a total disaster for both of them, except that then Xander made his friend
with the famous mom, who then ghost to them. We all know the
story, but Sadie, Sadie had such a hard time if you recall that,
that really brought to light. I think some of her mental health issues
Prussian and that's when she saw the psychiatrist and she got on meds and so
toward the end of that year was fine and then but ninth grade has been
so different for her. And then now tenth grade, I mean, I
have like different kids. Yeah, it's nice, it's just so good.
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Yeah, we're back. Oh. I did want to just have one
quick, little funny story, and it's probably not even gonna be that funny
because I don't remember too many details. But I did the most insane podcast,
so I've done it. That was really good podcasts that I've been on.
I was just on Alison Rosen is your new best friend? Oh nice,
and she's coming on our show. Okay. We talked for so long
and got like super personal wow, oh yeah, yeah, she's an interview
or she's fun and she also is like no filth. She's like, uh,
like I didn't realize how much not she'll tell she'll tell you, because
later afterwards I was like, wow, you went there, and she was
like, oh yeah, I've always like I don't care. Yeah. So
she told some really personal stories about like addiction, Like did you know that
she doesn't drink and hasn't for like thirteen years or something or yeah, I
think I remember not a big drinker. Yeah at all. I don't remember
her she doesn't drink. But anyway, we talked about a whole lot of
stuff. So that was really fun. And I also did another podcast that
I really liked called Hello Someday, Hello Someday, Hello Someday. Yeah,
Hello Someday. And I'm going to look up this other one that I just
did. But anyway, are you going to the places? Are you doing
them from home? Like they've all been on zoom? Okay, so but
this one, so I get I get this email that's like, hey,
can you do this? I'm just gonna say his name because it doesn't really
matter. It's like John Cosma, uh huh okay, like Kozma. It's
like three names or whatever. So I get this email and it's like,
hey, do you want to And it's from like a booker. Okay,
so it's not from the guy. It's not the guy like reaching out on
Instagram and going hey I have a podcast you want to be on it.
It's like from a production company and you know how sometimes you can sense that
thing is for like that somebody's hired somebody like out of India to do their
like scheduling. It had a tone of like, Hi, I'm so and
so and I work for so and so production. It wasn't like great,
it was the way things were worded sounded a little foreign. And I was
and they're like, we would like to interview you with your book for this
for the Unimpressed podcast, And they tell me like how many downloads it gets
or whatever. So at first I'm just like, is this a real podcast?
Even because I don't want to make the same mistake that you guys remember
me yes doing a Patreon about it. So I'm like trying to be a
little more careful about what I go on. So I'm trying to vet it
a little bit more so anyway, I would I look it up. It
is a podcast, it's a YouTube, it's a YouTube show. It doesn't
have like a lot of downloads by any stretch of the imagination. But I
was like, you know, it's a totally different audience. It's not a
sober po podcast. It's like the guy just interviews like people that are interesting
to him. Right, So I'm like I go, all right, I'll
do it, so I have no idea what to expect. Oh, but
also there's like a team involved, so, like the guy, I agree
to do it. Then I get another email from like the scheduling person,
and it's like back in, like there's a lot of questions, okay,
and can you do this time? And then I say yes. Then they
send me a link, but then I anyway, it's like a lot,
right, it's a lot already, go on to do the podcast, and
uh, it was the most insane podcast I've ever done. Okay the guy,
and if you watch it, you're gonna see a lot because you know,
I can't. I have the rusting bitch face as it is, but
I also have the face where I can't. It's very difficult for me to
be like uh huh. Like this guy is so into himself. Okay,
he's like, oh, I can't wait to contificate about it. Very he
thinks he's just he thinks he's like Joe Rogan like like, and he tells
you like, you know, anybody that knows me knows that I'm a Clara
not clairvoyant. But he calls himself like a like a Claar cl look and
I'm like, uh uh uh huh. First of all, I was trying
to funk with him a little bit, see because it was he was so
fucking humorless. So he's like okay, And first of all, you know
he hadn't read the book like he had, so he goes to look at
like, so what you've written other books? I'm like, do a fucking
moment of homework. You don't even know who I am at all? Like,
right, so his show is just interviewing people that he finds interesting or
I don't. There's no like, I don't think that he finds interesting.
I think it's somebody in India that he's hired to look up people. I
think they just go out to. His show is just an inner. It's
not like it's an interview. Okay, okay, so he's straight up interview
show. I don't know who the guy is. I didn't know ahead of
time, but I did look him up ahead of time, and I'm like,
okay, so it's just a show. It's on YouTube. Like like
I said, I mean, some of them had like a thousand downloads and
some of them had way even fewer. But I was like well, what
could it hurt? You know? A thousand people that I don't know is
a thousand people I don't know, And I like want to sell this book,
you know, so and get the word out, you know. So
he's just like, okay, so tell me, like tell me about what's
your story basically, and how did you decide? He eat like the worst
interviewer. So I'm like okay, So I tell him a little bit.
That's the most I talked for the whole time, because then he was like
so, and then he just starts going on about like I'm telling you that
I was getting a lesson in quantum physics and he's like yeah, and then
he would he would stop in the middle and be like do you understand what
I'm saying? And at one point I just I said I do not at
all, because I couldn't even fake it. So at one point I was
like, ah, I think so, and he's like, well, what
does that mean to you? I swear to god, oh, I felt
like I was in the most boring, like like a college class taught by
a psychotic professor where he's like yeah, so and he's telling me all of
these He's like thinks he's like some kind of a guru. So he's like,
well, something that I've learned in my practice of blobbity blah. But
you know, I'm a bit of Anybody that knows me knows that I'm out.
Let's just say it's a clairvoyant. What is he like, what's his
profession other than podcast hosts? I don't know? Looking up look at John
Cosma. So he's like, oh my god, nobody. I guarantee you
nobody here knows him because listen spoiler alert, as we like to say.
Afterward, I was like, this guy is like ridiculous. He's acting like
he's a big podcaster and he's definitely not. I can't imagine anybody sitting through
this podcast and liking it. So I go look up how long he's been
Yeah, and podcasting for almost four years? Okay he started this like March
of twenty twenty. Okay, five reviews, so nobody ain't nobody listening to
this podcast or watching this podcast? And the five reviews that he had seemed
definitely like paid for for people that are like this one fantastic interviewer. You
bring up a lot of interesting topics, like you know, and then maybe
he spent money on trying to get some engagement and then was like that's too
expensive. I don't need that, right, but like not one I think
real person. Ever. Anyway, he talked about himself so much that I
was just kind of like half listening. And then he's like, so,
do you understand what I'm saying? And I said, God, I go,
I really don't. I'm gonna be honest with you. And then at
one point I was just like yes, and no, I didn't go to
I mean, I didn't go to college. I don't know if a lot
of what you're saying is just kind of over my head. But like and
he's like, well, it's you know, it's quantum physics. It's all
blah blah blahics quanta physically do anything to do with my book or me at
all. He was just I swear to god, I was like the founding
board. Yes, he just wanted somebody to talk at. It was the
like that's crazy. The other one that I complained about on Patreon was a
very big difference, maybe like politically or socially or like. It was like
that was a little bit uncomfortable. But she was like totally nice and like
right, fine, a fine host, like not talking about herself. No,
this guy was. It was the craziest experience because I was started to
have like an out of body you know, I'm like watching the time,
so it's video too, so I can't like I'm on video and I'm being
video so I'm trying to look like you ever try to force yourself to look
interested at all? I was my brain was. I was like, this
guy is freaking using me, Like he's just podcasting with himself. He doesn't
need me here, so I'm sitting there and then every once in a while
he tries to like check in with me, but he's like, I don't
feel like you're getting what I'm saying, and I'm like, I'm really not.
I'm not. I'm so sorry, but it's just I'm lost. And
then oh my god. But like I said, the first time he goes,
well, the first time I tried it, I was like, yeah,
I think I know what you're saying, and he's like, well,
what is it? What am I saying? Like what does it mean to
you? So I was so put on the spot because I'm like, I
wasn't listening. I was totally lost. So I try to like you're playing
poker in your brain. I was like, I had a flush, like
you interrupted, like what was about? I was all in? But I
so I go, so it was, I swear to god, I felt
like I was caught in school by the teacher, like not listening. And
then I tried to fake my way through. So I go, I think
what you're saying is blah blah blah, and he goes, no, that's
not what I'm saying. And I went, oh, well, I guess
I'm a little lost. So then he blah blah blah goes on again,
and I was like, yeah, that's it's interesting, Like yeah, that's
really interesting, and he's like, yeah, well, I mean and then
everything he says is like people know that I'm like, I'm basically he was
calling himself an m path without using the word m path, like he's like,
I feel people's feelings. I can sense what people thinking, what they're
feeling. Like that's how I work with people, and I coach people,
and I know I can leave. And I was like, I go,
what I'm thinking of a number between one and ten. I just decided to
have fun with it. I just started fucking with him. Yeah, and
I was like, I believe, like, listen, you you know,
I believe in like psychic and well because at one point I go, I'm
sorry, I just don't. I don't believe in like all that wu wu
stuff. I go, but I do believe like psychic you can get on
the same wavelength. And I just tried to like steal focused for a minute,
and he was like not having this. He was not having it.
He had no sense of humor. He was just like, but like you
know when people when you're fucking with them a little bit. Now, Oh
it's out. Yeah, I think on his YouTube channel it's not not not
sepisode anyway. Oh bummer, I guess it hasn't aired it No, he
didn't. Okay, oh believe me. When he's gonna air, I'm not
sure. It can't be fast enough. Let me see if the podcast at
least. Oh my god. But it's so It was so funny because when
I was kind of trying to fuck with him a little bit, like have
fun with him, he was like, oh, yeah, that's good.
That's good. You could just see that I kind of that. He was
like not used to that, right, right. It was I want to
say it was uncomfortable, but I was I'm watching the time, and he
had said it had said it was a forty five minute interview, but so
now it's forty five minutes, and I'm like, oh my god, is
it really bad form? If I just go, I gotta go. I
don't wanted to tell about this so bad. And I was like, okay,
I guess just gotta let him talk. And I couldn't. I couldn't
look at my phone. I couldn't do anything else because I had to.
I was freaking Captiva. I sit there looking at my freaking zoom cam and
go my and then mercifully he was like, okay, well it's been like
a great conversation. That was like absolutely so great. Okay, you for
having me. Your episode is not out yet, okay, or he just
scrapped the whole thing. I don't know. He did not know. Okay,
I know he was pretty pleased with himself. Okay, it wasn't I
bet if he started it, he's got He's got like thirty five thousand YouTube
subscribers, almost thirty thousand followers on Instagram. I think it's zy very well.
I think it's fake because look at how many views each individual. Yeah,
it's they they vary one that mostly around like twenty nine hundred and thirty
six hundred. That's but then there's a couple that's like one point six thousand,
right, but that's the high end that's after a month. Yeah,
so if you have thirty five thousand subscribers, you got to figure I think
those numbers are inflated. I think he bought subscribers because he could have done
that. How are you only getting six hundred. He's a director producer,
that's what he calls himself, right, and he does have technically have credits
on IMDb, but I didn't I sure didn't recognize anything on there. But
he also calls himself a meta media partner, TikTok partner and the reluctant shaman.
Oh oh. That was one of the things he told me that he's
a worked with celebrity shamans. I'm like, okay, those two words work
apart from each other, but like, what's a celebrity Shawman? Like,
so much of the stuff he was saying was just like uh huh, yeah,
okay, oh so the celebrity shamans And he's like, yeah, I've
learned the blah blah blah from celebrity and everything had a tangent that was just
something even crazier than the last thing he just said. So I was like,
this is I cannot way cool. I can't come out, I cannot
wait, I can't wait. Oh my god. I was the name of
the show. It's John Cosma. It's called The Unimpressed Podcast. The Unimpressed
Podcast, yeah, which I don't know why that title, but he like,
yeah, he had like a good setup with the like his unimpressed behind
him, and you know, I bet you he started into enjoying probably lost
a job or whatever and was like, off, screw it, I'm going
to do my own YouTube ding and I'm his picture too for his podcast.
It's like him standing there with his hands down and there's like lights coming out
to his Instagram. Yeah it was. It was just such an experience.
But I was like, either this is going to be paid, this is
going to be a Patreon And then I was like, nah, why this
guy is so self involved. He would never in a million years listen to
my podcast. Yeah. So yeah, even if he'll probably get this is
going to get him some views. I think it would be funny if my
episode gets like way more views than anybody that YouTube episode does come out,
I'm just gonna throw it into our you have, into our Facebook group,
so you know, oh my god, it was it's probably going to be
pretty entertaining. I just I ended that call and I just walked into John
and I was like, this is just really worst experience. And right afterwards,
and I want to tell you what the podcast was. But then I
had like the best one right after that. It's called Recovery Mom. I
think it's called Recovery Mom. You know what, I'm gonna put it on
our Facebook. But her episode, that episode isn't out yet. But I
get on the air with her and I'm like, oh my god, I
had the weirdest, like worst experience before. And then she was like,
oh god, I hope I'm not like weird. I'm probably weird too,
and it was like the nicest. It's probably my favorite one. Like that's
awesome. Yeah, Recovery Recovery Mom, Sober Mom, Sober Mom. I
let us know when it comes, okay, I will. Yeah, it's
awesome. Yeah, Okay, well that's a good note to end on.
Yeah, so okay, right before we go as always Adam Lerner three one
zero nine nine eight seven zero four eight. He's a car broker. You
can go to Adam's got a car for all of your car buying, car
leasing, whatever needs. I'd say car renting, but obviously not. And
then I think I did everything. Oh, The Family Skeptical. It's a
podcast. It's about raising kids without religion. It's a it's a fellow,
it's a listener of our show who has a podcast. So let's just support
her a download episode The Family Skeptical about like a different way to raise kids,
you know. Yeah, and oh we didn't do Basic Becky. I
love Basic Becky. Yeah, T shirts, mousepads, coffee mugs, and
the holidays are past, so I'm sure her she's less crazed. You can
like go peruse her website just basic Becky dot com or find her on Facebook
at Basic Becky. Yeah. I think I'm gonna get a hold of her.
I have some ideas for T shirts. Oh good, Yeah, all
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