1 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:12,800 Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life presented by fan Tracks. Here's Quess, your source 2 00:00:12,839 --> 00:00:16,879 of information and analysis to help you win your fantasy hockey league. Block off 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:22,320 hats, A step hit on, stay lock. Here's your host, Jesse 4 00:00:22,399 --> 00:00:27,320 Sovi here and Victor Noon you hope Fantasy Hockey Live back once again. The 5 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:32,159 season is on. I am Jesse, severa fantracks and joining me from EP 6 00:00:32,359 --> 00:00:36,159 ringside, it is Victor Nunio. Victor, how you doing today? I 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,600 am doing awesome, Jesse. Yeah, it's been really interesting. First long 8 00:00:40,679 --> 00:00:45,759 matchup in our dynasty leagues. Most of the dynasty matchups combined. The first 9 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,399 it was mostly a full week, but now it just ends up kind of 10 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:51,719 feeling like a long first matchup. Yeah, there's a lot of there's a 11 00:00:51,759 --> 00:00:54,520 lot of mixed emotions because there's all up and down roller coaster. It was 12 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,880 like way ahead in one league and now I'm like scraping back, So it's 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,079 a that's what's fun though, Right, how's how have you been and how's 14 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:06,719 your first matchup gone? It's I'm yeah, I think I'm winning half, 15 00:01:06,799 --> 00:01:11,719 I'm losing half, but I insisted on these long opening matchups victories. I 16 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:17,920 am being difficult this year in both basketball and hockey about trying to create balanced 17 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:23,840 schedules, because I think it's a fair thing to set up the schedule so 18 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:27,239 that you play every other team one time, and in fifteen and eighteen team 19 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,680 or sixteen and eighteen team leagues. I think it's very realistic to do. 20 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,400 But it does involve stretching out to some of these two week matchups, which 21 00:01:34,519 --> 00:01:38,439 basically I hate two week matchups because it just takes too long to reset it. 22 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:45,000 But it's inevitable to do, and I also like getting to the playoffs 23 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,519 a little bit earlier. I think you lose people in the doul drums of 24 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,599 February otherwise as the season just drags on and then you have guys shut down 25 00:01:53,799 --> 00:01:57,599 and whatnot. So yeah, it's emotionally, I'm having fun. I'm watching 26 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,920 a lot of hockey. But even though the Capitals are down for the count 27 00:02:01,959 --> 00:02:07,920 I think the I'm feeling, maybe not completely the pain of being a Sharks 28 00:02:07,959 --> 00:02:10,360 fan, but I think I see it happening right in front of me that 29 00:02:10,439 --> 00:02:15,319 it's going to be a few years this and it's it's rough so far. 30 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,759 Man, Oh it's coming for the Caps. It's it's definitely come. It's 31 00:02:19,759 --> 00:02:23,520 going to be it's gonna be rough and even Obi, Like what's going on 32 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,439 with Obe, like without one thing that we thought was that he was going 33 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,719 to continue to be great and shoot a ton and get his power play points, 34 00:02:30,719 --> 00:02:34,280 and so far none of that is happening. Yeah, it's been a 35 00:02:34,479 --> 00:02:38,120 couple of games, but yeah, that's really bad news because if ob suddenly 36 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:43,879 ages, then we're all doomed. It's going to be miserable. I'm going 37 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:49,360 to rely on Joe Beninatti's optimism to get me through the next couple of years. 38 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,479 Anyway, Victor, you don't need Joe Beninati. You don't need a 39 00:02:54,520 --> 00:03:00,400 winning team to cheer for to enjoy fantasy hockey. The thing to do to 40 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,879 enjoy it is to join our discord, which is free, and all you 41 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,800 have to do is contact Victory myself on x at Fanhockey Life at Victor Nunio 42 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:15,280 twelve or email us at Fantasy Hockeylife at gmail dot com one big long word 43 00:03:15,319 --> 00:03:16,680 and you can join in for free. We give you a link. That's 44 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,120 why you have to contact us. We're not like collecting your address and selling 45 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:23,520 it on the dark web. We just we need your link. You just 46 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:27,199 need to send you a link because otherwise you can't get into a discord. 47 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:30,479 That's how discords work. But otherwise you can have a good time there. 48 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,960 You also have the Patreon victor what's going on over at the Patreon right now? 49 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,080 Yeah, lots of good stuff at the Patreon. We are doing our 50 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,520 patroon cast as, and there's other great stuff like doing a lot of roster 51 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:46,039 doctors helping people out figure out what's going on with their roster one on one 52 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,360 personalized type attention, and there's other good things like I don't know if people 53 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,719 realize dming for like personal advice. 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If you want to support the show, there's a couple of different 62 00:04:25,759 --> 00:04:30,120 tiers that you can pick and check it out over there, all right, 63 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,519 And in addition to that, we're gonna be doing a little bit it's gonna 64 00:04:34,519 --> 00:04:38,079 be a little bit different. The next couple episodes may not be exactly what 65 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,199 you're used to, although you got a taste of it last episode. Not 66 00:04:41,439 --> 00:04:44,319 all of these next couple of episodes are going to be me and Victor doing 67 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,120 things together. We've got some cool stuff going on over in the Tidy. 68 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,879 Our guy, Ryan, the Tidy Admiral, is coming with us. You're 69 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,000 just gonna hear all kinds of cool things. Just trust me, and we'll 70 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,839 bring it all back together as we get through into the month of No. 71 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:02,360 Number A lot of travel going on, a lot of travel. So right 72 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,079 after this we'll be coming back and I believe we're going to have of becoming 73 00:05:06,199 --> 00:05:18,480 Ryan time again for another Tidy Takes where we focus on the tier dynasty and 74 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:24,759 our fantastic League. But we also make this applicable to all players in Dynasty 75 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,360 and Keeper format, so hopefully you find interesting. We listen to your feedback 76 00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:32,759 and we are constantly trying to refine this. So let's get going with this 77 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,759 segment, and to do that, we have to bring in our Tidy Admiral 78 00:05:35,959 --> 00:05:40,680 Ryan Downey. Ryan, how are you. I'm great, Victor. It's 79 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,560 good to be back. We're really making something out of this. I think 80 00:05:43,879 --> 00:05:47,959 it's good to be back, and we've really been milking the trade list for 81 00:05:48,079 --> 00:05:53,800 the Tidy almost dry at this point. We're going to focus on one player 82 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,879 this week. We're going to focus on Anton Lundell, and this is one 83 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,399 of my favorite young players in the league I have. I have a very 84 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,360 special attachment to Lundell. I owned him in my first ever Dynasty league a 85 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:06,240 couple of years back. I've been a redraft player for a long time, 86 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:12,279 but didn't play Dynasty until I discovered Fantasy Hockey Life and became hooked on this 87 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:15,680 type of fantasy hockey league. Also, like many Canadians, I'm a devout 88 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:19,560 viewer of the World Junior Championships and was first exposed to Lundell when he captained 89 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:25,000 the Finish Young Lions to a bronze medal in the Edmonton Bubble Tournament. He 90 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,439 would make his NHL debut the next year with a fifty six point pace in 91 00:06:28,519 --> 00:06:32,079 sixty five games before regressing last season to a thirty seven point place, although 92 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,639 he did play more games, and we know that early in a rookies' career, 93 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,800 the more games you can get in the better good for the young man 94 00:06:39,879 --> 00:06:46,000 to stay stable and healthy through last season. This first trade involving Londell has 95 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,240 a lot of juicy young pieces to discuss. In Tidy Gretzky, the Caprice 96 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:56,519 Sons, managed by Simon, acquired Alex Newhook and Anton Lundell, two great 97 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:03,639 multi eligible center wingers from Portland pirates for Klin Addison and Yuso Vallamaki. So 98 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:10,319 we have forwards for d situation here. Voted pretty favorably for the forwards here 99 00:07:10,399 --> 00:07:14,839 Alex Newhook and Anton Lundell. The managers have this to say. Simon says 100 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,040 Lundell is a great talent on a good team that will endure injuries to start 101 00:07:18,079 --> 00:07:21,959 the season and a cap crunch in the following season. Lundell should get an 102 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,959 expanded role as the Panthers move on from pieces like Bennett and Reinhart. In 103 00:07:26,959 --> 00:07:30,480 addition to moves they've already made in the off season shipping guys liked Claire out 104 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:34,360 Montreal seems to like new Hook and will want to give him plenty of opportunity, 105 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:39,759 as they spent a lot of capital to acquire him. He lost Addison 106 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:45,040 and Vallamackie in this deal. Both players have a question mark in his view. 107 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,199 He feels that they will lose their top power play roles and be thirty 108 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:56,160 point d men at best. Addison we have the Addison is again a question 109 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,959 mark, but his shine has worn off with him not being able to secure 110 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,759 a consistent role last year. That's not to say he won't, but that 111 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:05,399 Simon is not as confident that he becomes the top power play goal for Minnesota 112 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:09,639 that he originally believed he could be. So his assessment is that he got 113 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,800 a potential sixty plus point forward in Lundell, a fifty plus point forward in 114 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:16,920 new Hook for two thirty point defenseman. Hatfield, on the other hand, 115 00:08:18,439 --> 00:08:20,639 knows going into this deal that he's a little bit behind the eight ball because 116 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,240 somehow did not have a single D on his bench after the draft, so 117 00:08:24,279 --> 00:08:28,560 he knew he would have to pay a little bit. He had added new 118 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,399 Hook late in the season last year, hoping for a rebound, but the 119 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:35,919 trade to Montreal only boosted his value. Hatfield is a fan of Lundell and 120 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,799 his hot start last year, but soured on his fading down the stretch. 121 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,519 There's a small chance. Hatfield feels that Samuscavage might pass him on the depth 122 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,840 chart. I'm not sure I agree with that. Ultimately, it comes down 123 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:50,639 to power play time. Lundell and new Hook being likely third liners with power 124 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:56,480 play two and Vallamacki and Addison both having potential for power play one. He's 125 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,519 willing to lose on point projection for a chance on some powerplay coquarterbacks for the 126 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,240 next few years. I don't think he's losing that much on power on points 127 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:07,480 projection right now, we've been taking your feedback into account, and so we're 128 00:09:07,799 --> 00:09:13,000 talking more about the actual fantasy points per game here, six point five to 129 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,440 four points per game for the Alex Newhook Anton Londell side, six point sixty 130 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,759 nine points per game for the defenseman side. It's pretty even. You can't 131 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:24,639 get much more even than that, Victor. What do you think about this 132 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:28,399 forward for d swap? Yeah? I like this. This is a really 133 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:33,919 interesting one. You can always think a little bit about positional scarcity there. 134 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:39,720 These are two I would say lower end offensive defensemen who don't have that high 135 00:09:39,799 --> 00:09:43,559 floor of being good all around or being good defensively to increase their time on 136 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,080 ice and fenwick and take away in those other stats. So you really are 137 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,039 relying more on the offensive production. They don't really get a lot of points 138 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,519 otherwise, and so that's a big concerning the Vallamachi has been showing more all 139 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,360 around acumen, which has been really nice to see, and he probably has 140 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:05,159 more of a chance, I would say, to be a second pairing all 141 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:11,480 around kind of guy. His defensive metrics have greatly improved since struggling in Calgary, 142 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,320 and that is just not the case for Addison, although some of his 143 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,480 underlyings aren't as bad as a lot of people seem to make a big deal 144 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:22,799 out of, but he is in no way, shape or form an all 145 00:10:22,879 --> 00:10:26,919 around defenseman. He's definitely more offensive. So you have a little bit of 146 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,240 risk with those two. I would say you have risk on the other side 147 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,879 too. Is new hooks break out a small sample size or is it truly 148 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,879 a next progression and getting the opportunity. I'm skeptical about that. Lundell, 149 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,440 on the other hand, there's risk primarily I would say in the fact that 150 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,159 he's just too good for his own good. He's one of these players that 151 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:52,720 I think is just so good all around that Calgary or Montre Florida, let's 152 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:58,279 try that third time is more of more interested probably in having him help them 153 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,600 win games as more than having him get a lot of offensive stats. And 154 00:11:03,639 --> 00:11:07,840 so that's a bit of the question. I do the supposition that he's going 155 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,519 to get a bigger role when the SAMs move on, and I do think 156 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,240 that is likely. I don't know what they're going to do with Ryan Hart 157 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,360 at the end of the season, making six point five million. With his 158 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:20,960 production, he's probably due a little bit of a raise. We'll see if 159 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,799 they can afford him. And Lundell is also an RFA at the end of 160 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:26,480 the season. If I were the Florida Panthers, I would hand Lundell large 161 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,799 bags of money for a long time to stick around, because he's going to 162 00:11:30,879 --> 00:11:35,159 be that important to their future, and that might also dictate more opportunities. 163 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:37,360 So it'll be interesting to see you if you're not in a cap league, 164 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:41,919 you want Lundell to get massive dollars and get help that dictate the opportunity. 165 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,919 Obviously, in a cap league, you might be hoping more for a bridge, 166 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:52,360 But I do think that Lundell is so good both ways that he's going 167 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,720 to get more and more time on ice, and he's probably going to get 168 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,879 the two C if not be like a soft one seed too. He's not 169 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:03,000 overtake Barkov. He could be that high in the lineup that he could play 170 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,440 top line or top power play. At least I do think he's good enough 171 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,320 to do that. I think it's it is a bit risky, though, 172 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,679 because they'd also probably be happy acquiring a second line center and making him be 173 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:18,000 an awesome third line center, So I think that could also. I just 174 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,320 believe most in Anton Lundell, so that's probably where I would put my money 175 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:26,320 if I were deciding between these two, just because I've seen the struggles of 176 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,519 Addison and I don't know when that's really going to change or how much it's 177 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,759 going to change. And as much as I like the progression of Vallamachi, 178 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,720 I'm not sure how much farther he has to go. And there's Sean Dursey 179 00:12:37,799 --> 00:12:41,840 and there's other players coming in Arizona that I'm not sure he'll be able to 180 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,360 fend off, So that concerns me a little bit. So I guess I 181 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,320 would side with Simon mainly for the Lundell but it's really a fascinating study in 182 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,600 how much does it hurt you to be that good all around? And in 183 00:12:54,919 --> 00:12:58,759 Lendell's case so far, mainly because of all the other pieces around him, 184 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:03,159 it has hurt him quite a bit that he hasn't gotten as much offensive opportunity, 185 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:07,000 but that could be shifting, and I like the bet. Yeah, 186 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,039 I've already said how I feel about Lundell. I love the player, so 187 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,960 I'm going to focus on the defender side here, and I typically really like 188 00:13:13,039 --> 00:13:18,519 the kind of defender that Addison and Vallamackie percheck to be fast, skilled, 189 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:22,799 great breakout pass the riverboat gambler types. Both are without the power play. 190 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,320 They're thirty point pace offense first defenders. Vallamackie, as you mentioned, has 191 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:33,240 that edge defensively and the trust of his coach, which Addison seems very much 192 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,720 not to have. And while I do this kind of defenseman, I really 193 00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:41,879 love Lundell. I really prefer that side for this deal. I agree that 194 00:13:41,919 --> 00:13:43,960 he should be getting that two seed deployment. I actually think when it comes 195 00:13:45,039 --> 00:13:48,080 to Florida they're trying to do that thing that some of the top teams are 196 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,799 doing where they have two top lines instead of having a top one line and 197 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,279 then a top two line. I really think that if you've got Kachuk on 198 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,279 your second line, that's really your first line, and if you've got Barkov 199 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,840 on your first line, that's also your first line. So you know, 200 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:07,240 I think that Lundell there's a real potential for him very soon to be on 201 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:13,279 that line with to be on that line with Kachuk, then it should probably 202 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:18,519 stay a sixty ish point guy with good pariffs, but he's a band aid 203 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,360 boy. To use some Dauber terminology here. Lundell is twenty two coming out 204 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,000 of that sophomore slump, but he had a huge dip in shooting percentage last 205 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,000 year and an increase in shots. So you got to think that's going to 206 00:14:30,039 --> 00:14:35,039 normalize and we're gonna have something closer to his first impressive rookie campaign. I 207 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,320 think this season he can bounce back to a round a fifty five point pace 208 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,639 guy, and then we have a competition between these two guys, and I 209 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,120 want to go on that ride. I also feel like I should say, 210 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:48,639 just in case there's any newfoundlandhers listening, I might be expatriated if I don't 211 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,480 take the side of the trade involving Alex Newhook. We're both from Saint John's, 212 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:56,919 Newfoundland, the same town in Newfoundland, and so I think it's possible 213 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,720 I might hear from people if I don't take this side of the trade that 214 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:03,519 they might be a little displeased with me. So I think I'm going to 215 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:09,240 take the centers on this side of the deal. Yeah, that's fair, 216 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:11,360 and I like how you put that especially. I was hinting at that, 217 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,919 but you made it more clear, and I agree. I do think that 218 00:15:15,159 --> 00:15:20,159 Florida is going to have two top lines basically if they have Barkoff and whoever 219 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,080 he plays with, and Lundell and Kuchuck, especially if they play together. 220 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,759 But I do think that Lundell can be good enough, not unlike, although 221 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:33,120 slightly different than Matthews and John Tavares, who are basically both first line centers 222 00:15:33,159 --> 00:15:37,399 on two different lines, different skill set, different ways that they play. 223 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:41,720 And I think Lundell and Barkoff are probably more similar in terms of the fact 224 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,399 that they're both good two way players. Maybe more offense for Barkhof is sure 225 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,799 seems to be the case right now, but I do think in that similar 226 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,200 vein to the Toronto centers. You're gonna have two top line centers and you're 227 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,120 just gonna be so super happy about that. And I do think that Lundell 228 00:15:56,159 --> 00:15:58,399 will eventually be the fourth forward on top power play, and so you're gonna 229 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,559 like that. Move forward over to the other deal that focuses on Anton Lundell 230 00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:07,120 here, this is just this is the one for one. This is like 231 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:12,639 a haul for Larsen kind of thing. We have mcnaults managed by Sean mcnolts 232 00:16:12,679 --> 00:16:18,200 on our discord acquiring Anton Lundell from Sea Bass for Noah Hannafan, and so 233 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,240 we have a very exciting conversation here between kind of the emergent rookie and the 234 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:26,919 safe, steady defenseman. Sean had this to say, I just thought I 235 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,519 had a lot of defensemen and have Edvonson, who hopefully will be up most 236 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:34,320 of this year, and he needed better forwards, so he wanted Sea Bass 237 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,600 wanted a d man. Hopefully it works out for both of us. I'm 238 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,279 hoping Lundell can pick up the production a little because Hanifan does have score him 239 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:45,240 on points per game. I'm hoping Lundell can take a step up. Sea 240 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:48,960 Bass had this to say, my reasoning for the trade was that I needed 241 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,480 to improve my decoor and I have a surplus of forwards. Lundell is young 242 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:56,200 and probably has a bright future, but not sure he breaks out this year, 243 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,480 and I'm in a win now mood Sea. Bass also took over one 244 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:06,039 of the teams that got promoted, and so he feels that his team is 245 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:12,599 pretty well set to be promoted himself, and so he wants to win now, 246 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,599 and so that's why he's making the deal. Victor, what do you 247 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,240 think about this deal where we have the young forward and Anton Lundell and the 248 00:17:21,279 --> 00:17:25,759 experience d in Noah Hannafan. I think I like the way that see Bass 249 00:17:25,799 --> 00:17:30,559 put it. I don't prefer Hannafin in general, but I do worry that 250 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:37,440 most of the evolution of Lundel is going to happen beyond this season. I 251 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,519 think that he might be a little roster blocked right now and there just might 252 00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:45,839 not be the opportunity on the power play. So even though we just heap 253 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,440 so much praise on Lundell and I love him and I think he's going to 254 00:17:48,519 --> 00:17:53,759 be great long term this season, it probably does make more sense, especially 255 00:17:53,799 --> 00:17:59,160 if you have a positional need to go with Hanna fan even though I don't 256 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,599 think he's anything special, but I do think Calgary will be better this year, 257 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:07,200 so that should improve his fenwick and he's already pretty decent in terms of 258 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,960 his peripheral coverage. They will hopefully score more. If he taps a puck 259 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,680 to huber Dough, then maybe they him and Lenholm and some of the other 260 00:18:15,839 --> 00:18:18,200 forwards can score a little bit more and that is all going to help him. 261 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,680 So I think, although I think this is pretty even, and if 262 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,200 we're just looking beyond this year, I would definitely take Lundell. But based 263 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,680 on what Sebas said and I agree that he probably has a pretty good chance 264 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,640 to get promoted based on his situation, that I probably would lean his side 265 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:38,440 just for this year, and then makes sense also for Sean, who I 266 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:44,640 think is realistically looking beyond this year that it's goin, I would say, 267 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,079 yeah. Showing these two deals side by side gives you a real sense of 268 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,839 how this league works, I think, and it also shows that we don't 269 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,599 have a bias towards a particular player. We're not just going to pick Londell 270 00:18:56,759 --> 00:19:02,279 every time for these kinds of deals. I think we have a very different 271 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,920 deal here, the first deal being we have Vallamacki and Addison, these young 272 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:10,599 defenders. They don't have much runway so far, they might be something in 273 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,119 the future. We know what Noah Hanafin is and we know what to expect 274 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,079 from him. This year. Noah Hanafan last season in the Tidy got five 275 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,880 point two to nine Fantasy points per game, which is not nothing. He's 276 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,720 a multi caat contributor, he does a lot, and he is probably a 277 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,000 more projectable piece. If you're only planning on being in this league for one 278 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:30,960 year, maybe two years, and I know we're all hoping that happens for 279 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,079 our teams, right I'm hoping we stay up in Lord Stanley, but anything 280 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,480 can happen. I would lean to Hanafin. If you're a contending team, 281 00:19:37,559 --> 00:19:41,240 it's closer to a wash, and if I was one of these managers, 282 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,319 I would be very happy. Looking at the voting results on the Tidy Trades 283 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,440 poll that we ran about this deal, pretty even across the board. We 284 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:56,960 have fifty six percent of our managers voting for the even option, meaning that 285 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,480 they feel that this is an even swap, and we have five votes for 286 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:03,920 the Sea Bass Side and six votes for the mcnult's side. I don't think 287 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,000 you can get much more even than that. Certainly, this is a fantasy 288 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,000 hockey prospects fan discord, and so we do have the lean towards Anton Lundel. 289 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,000 We can't really get that. We can't really lose that element, but 290 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,279 certainly I think I would prefer Hannafin if I'm trying to win now, which 291 00:20:18,319 --> 00:20:22,079 it sounds like Sea Bass is trying to do. That's it for this week, 292 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,920 Victor. It was a quick hit for all you Tidy fans out there. 293 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,039 One of the topics we're looking to highlight on the next time we'll speak 294 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,720 is some draft outliers players who were only slimon are twenty twenty three prospect drafts, 295 00:20:34,759 --> 00:20:40,799 including one player who Victor is really high on. Tune in next time 296 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:44,000 to find out who that might be. Thanks so much, Ryan, and 297 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,559 thanks soon for listening to Tidy takes. And if you're interested in a certain 298 00:20:48,599 --> 00:20:52,079 topic or player, or if you want to make a trade that we can 299 00:20:52,160 --> 00:21:00,440 highlight, then go ahead and do that and give us your feedback as a 300 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:11,119 weapon that you talk of. Victors X guys over at ep ring side Victor 301 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:17,759 X gamers is your new beat talking about some of the stuff like our hundred 302 00:21:17,799 --> 00:21:21,839 gamers fifty game. Why do you introduce what is the x gamers concept? 303 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,400 Sir? Yeah, for sure, the x gamers. The idea came from 304 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,359 this idea that when a prospect graduates from being able to be held in the 305 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,680 minors, that's a really important decision time, right, because when you can 306 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,240 flex them up and down, there's no consequence. You could have guys that 307 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,599 have really no future in the NHL, but they're getting some games and you 308 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,240 move them up and down from minors to your pro roster, and that flexing 309 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,000 or streaming from the farm is really valuable even if they're not that good. 310 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:52,559 But when they hit that limit, now, all of a sudden your face 311 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,559 with an important decision because if they're really not that good the bottom of the 312 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,440 roster droppable replacement level, or if they are really worth holding, then you 313 00:22:00,519 --> 00:22:03,720 might tough it out as they have to stay on your main roster. That 314 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:08,000 happens at different thresholds in different leagues, and that was the genesis of sort 315 00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:11,880 of the one hundred gamers idea. And some leagues are longer, I know, 316 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:15,960 some leagues are two NHL seasons, so one hundred and sixty four games. 317 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,160 Some are closer to two hundred, and so that was the idea to 318 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,720 hit different kind of specific marks for these players. And so one hundred gamers 319 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:27,640 is pretty common. Two hundred gamers is another one. And these also represent 320 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,039 breakout thresholds for players, right, So two hundred games is something that a 321 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:37,440 lot of people holds. Okay, that's the threshold by which you've broken out. 322 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,920 And then some people will say four hundred gamers for bigger players, kind 323 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,759 of power forward types. So there's different checkpoints that we want to, like 324 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:48,279 see what's going on with these players, and that's the idea. And so 325 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,440 for these X gamers, we're talking about guys around one hundred games, and 326 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,000 so that's where we're checking in. And we have two for this first one 327 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,160 that we're going to discuss that I wrote up at EP Ringside and is Poj 328 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:06,640 and Jad Peer, Olivier Joseph and Jarrett Anderson Dolans. And sometimes we'll combine 329 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,680 these and they don't really necessarily have anything to do with each other. But 330 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,640 Poj is someone that has been interesting and he's someone that we've been following for 331 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,240 a while because he did have some really high upside in his draft season. 332 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:23,920 It's been trending down down ever since. But he is an offensive defenseman. 333 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,359 He's a six to two left handed d's now twenty four years old, and 334 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,359 he has played at the time of this recording exactly ninety nine NHL games. 335 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,079 So he's right on that cusp. And of course things have happened around him 336 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,000 and Pittsburgh Letang was there obviously for a long time, and now there's Eric 337 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,559 Carlson. There was other pieces that potentially look like they might be blocking him, 338 00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:49,640 and that's always been a bit of a question too. But the other 339 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:56,160 thing to consider is just how good that player is and how the cream rises 340 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,160 to the crop. Is the cream rise at the top, as I like 341 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,279 to say, So the question is if he's good enough, he'll just rise 342 00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:07,599 on his own, and that hasn't really happened with Poj, and so that's 343 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:11,440 been something that we're concerned with. And the question now is what's left. 344 00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:15,799 What's the upside? Is he going to reach that full potential? And so 345 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,720 far to this point, obviously he has not. He has POJ has looked 346 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:26,319 really good when given offensive deployment, his expected goal and offensive contributions on the 347 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,759 power play are really high. The problem is that he's always struggled defensively, 348 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:36,440 and so when you trying to hold your own head above water, defensively is 349 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,720 been an important deal for a defenceman. And one of the things that I 350 00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:44,440 did in the article is I compared him a little bit to Evan Bouchard, 351 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,160 and Bouchard had some similarities in terms of he was a really high end offensive 352 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:56,119 defenceman that we had thought that maybe he was struggling defensively, and Bouchard was 353 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,799 actually drafted the year after Poj. He was drafted in twenty eighteen and Poj 354 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,960 in twenty seventeen. Obviously, at this point, Bouchard has evolved into a 355 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,720 pretty close to all around top pairing defenceman, But the big key difference is 356 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,799 that his defensive impacts are a little bit above average close you could say close 357 00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:18,720 to average or above average, which is really good, and Poj is a 358 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:22,559 still well below average. So in order for him to get to that sort 359 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:26,559 of height, he's going to need obviously time on ice, and the deployment 360 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:30,440 with guys like Carlson and Tang ahead of him is going to be tricky. 361 00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:33,880 But he also needs to get his head a little bit more above water, 362 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,000 and there's some signs that's improving, and I still think that can happen, 363 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,599 but he really is going to have to shape that up. I also find 364 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:47,400 it interesting that there's other guys that are similar to Poj but not quite as 365 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,640 good like ty Smith, and they just traded for Jack Rathbone. So it's 366 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:56,119 like the Penguins are loading up on these poor defensively but offensively gifted defenceman that 367 00:25:56,559 --> 00:26:00,279 might struggle at even strength. I don't know what the reasoning is behind that. 368 00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:06,880 This seems like that prototype has not worked out and they still continue to 369 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,640 crew more, which I find interesting. Well, before I talk a little 370 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,000 bit about j D, why don't you tell me what you think about Poj 371 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,160 a Jesse and what you think his roster ability is in leagues that where he 372 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,799 might be having to roster and the miners. Yeah, of course Poj was 373 00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:26,839 a meme stock in our Common League. The friends at keeping Carlson, the 374 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:33,119 Common League people adored Poj before he debuted. He's been a dud since you've 375 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,559 been up there. I guess you can at least say that with Tys. 376 00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:40,279 Smiths buried back down in the miners, whereas Poj is actually on the team 377 00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:42,440 now, so at least he's got that going for him. But yeah, 378 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:48,039 if he's going to be offense first, adding Narrick Carlson to this team just 379 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,599 buries him further and further. It's really hard to see how Poj is going 380 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:59,799 to end up a terribly relevant player for your fantasy teams if he's going to 381 00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:03,079 be in that role on this team. And just looking at his bash metrics 382 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:07,079 for this year, in a total of four games, he's got three blocks 383 00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:11,720 and no hits and five shots. So no, sir, I don't think 384 00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:17,240 so. In eleven fifty two, Tim and Ice versus basically is Tom and 385 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:21,640 Ice going down every season. On top of that, unless that's just going 386 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,759 to change is that season goes along. So Pog we're off to a rough 387 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:29,160 start here, Victor, or maybe we're helping people rule people out. But 388 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,920 next down the alphabet soup of the guys that you talked about in that first 389 00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:37,880 article, Jad Jarrett Anderson Dolan only in one game so far this year, 390 00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:41,960 only played like a couple of minutes, and they've cleared they've sent him down 391 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:47,400 cleared waivers getting him to the NHL or the AHL, so he's gone up 392 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,039 and down. I read something that he might be called back up today, 393 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:55,519 but who knows whether that will be the case. Victor Jarrett Anderson Dolan, 394 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,160 Do we have a better case for this guy succeeding. Probably not. But 395 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,079 actually I just wanted to circle back to Poj real quick, and that is 396 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,720 to say that he definitely is someone who probably is going to You're gonna have 397 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,599 a hard time rostering him in terms of being effective right now. But I 398 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,839 do think if it's someone if it's a league where you can if you're rebuilding, 399 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,440 or if you're in the middle, maybe it would be worth buying him 400 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,839 and being if you could hold him for a year, you know, I 401 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,640 think once Le Tang slows down a little bit, they may be able to 402 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,319 give him more role and more opportunity. And I still think that there's some 403 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,880 upside there. He's obviously a bit blocked, so that would be a long 404 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,759 term play if you could be patient, which might be hard. But if 405 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:41,720 you're competitive or semi competitive, and you are he's going to expire his minor 406 00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:45,880 eligibility, then Poj is probably a drop in a shallower dynasty league. But 407 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,279 if you could, I think that I would be interested in holding on and 408 00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:52,480 seeing what happens in the next year or two. I still think that there's 409 00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:56,240 some hope for him to be a pretty valuable piece, but yeah, I'm 410 00:28:56,279 --> 00:29:00,319 not holding my breath if I'm ready to do something now. Jared Anderson Dolan, 411 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,799 on the other hand, Yeah, he's an interesting guy in that he 412 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,160 was I think a really strong draft pick by the Kings. They've had so 413 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,799 many good draft picks, and I think one of the things about the Kings 414 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:12,319 that has happened over the years, there's so many good draft picks, and 415 00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:18,200 I think they've mismanaged their assets. They had so many high end assets that 416 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,920 they waited for some of them to expire now, and they didn't get the 417 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:25,279 best value for him. One notable exception is getting Kevin Fiala for brock Favor 418 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,240 was pretty awesome. That was exactly the kind of thing that you should do. 419 00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:32,680 Brock Favor is awesome, But they also got a top line forward for 420 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:37,359 him, who's ready now and he has had a couple of seasons already there, 421 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,559 so that was really nice. But Anderson Dolan didn't really have the opportunity, 422 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,039 didn't really have as much time to break in to the NHL, and 423 00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:51,200 that was a little bit hard, based partially on what was happening with the 424 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,839 team. But he had a couple of really strong HL seasons. This past 425 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,720 one twenty one to twenty two was really good with nearly a point per game. 426 00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:02,480 The thing to consider the he is already twenty four, and he's a 427 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,920 bit older, and he's had a hard time breaking into the NHL. He's 428 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:10,519 at ninety seven games played NHL games played, and he's also trying to down 429 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,880 with his hockey prospecting over years. And I think the biggest thing with him. 430 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,000 I looked in I dug into some of his numbers at Hockey Viz, 431 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:22,279 and he just he has a pretty negative to neutral offensive impact, but defensively 432 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:26,640 he's pretty good. So my sense is that if Anderson Dolan does break in 433 00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,920 and stay stick in the NHL long term with a more regular role, it's 434 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,119 probably going to be in a more defensive assignment. His defensive impacts are neutral 435 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,839 to slightly positive, and his offense just doesn't seem like it's there at the 436 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,079 NHL level. Yeah, and I think it's important, As you mentioned, 437 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,720 Jesse, these are some of these times. Some of these guys is just 438 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,400 important to know when to let go, right. Some guys you want to 439 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,279 grab and some guys you want to let go. And I think that JD 440 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,599 is probably someone that I'd just be pretty happy to let go if he was 441 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,240 on my team. Wait, what do you think you hanging on? No, 442 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,720 sir, I don't believe that I am LA has changed. They've cleared 443 00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:07,240 out some of that depth in their forward ranks. Nonetheless, I don't really 444 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:11,279 see Jared Anderson Dolan being the guy who I'm going to carry through this. 445 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,279 Victor. Let's move on to your next article, and it was about Dylan 446 00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:17,359 Cousins. I think we can get a little more excited here. He's only 447 00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:21,039 got three points in four games so far this year for the Buffalo Sabers as 448 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,759 a centerman, but I guess at least it leads forwards on the team because 449 00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:27,400 Buffalo is off to a rough start. His minutes are not top line right 450 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,960 now, but his power play deployment is He's out there playing with Jay Paterca, 451 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,079 and some of the time it's been Victory Olifs, some of the time 452 00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:41,680 it's been Peyton Krebs as his other primary line partners. So Dylan Cousins on 453 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:44,839 a team where waiting for him to flourish a little bit this year, but 454 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:51,640 he is a guy who definitely proves this whole X gamers concept by he wasn't 455 00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:53,480 relevant, he wasn't relevant, and then he had that breakout, right, 456 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,599 yeah, absolutely, And this is why you know, you can't really give 457 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,759 up on you know, you got to put into context what's happening. There 458 00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:07,279 was obviously the team situation, and there was there's a lot of things that 459 00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:14,279 were interesting with cousins development. I mean, he was drafted in twenty nineteen 460 00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:19,359 pretty highly and that was, you know, important to think about that twenty 461 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,000 nineteen and then in the WHL he had a really strong season. He came 462 00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:30,279 back and had a really dominant second season there with Lethbridge, and then things 463 00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:34,920 went a little sideways in his development with COVID and that kind of was a 464 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,440 little bit difficult. His first year in Buffalo was affected by COVID, and 465 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,000 then his second year things were also a little wonky just with the team, 466 00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:49,160 although he played the whole season pretty much in twenty one twenty two, but 467 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,839 there were a lot of things happening with that Buffalo team and that they were 468 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,960 the mess. They did that thing where they started strong and then they started 469 00:32:53,960 --> 00:33:00,559 to get completely caved in and outplayed, and so that was a bit challenging. 470 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,720 And so that was basically his first one hundred games, and then last 471 00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:08,720 season he basically was passed at and now he's just over two hundred and he 472 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:15,079 had that breakout. But I think it's important to put in context where and 473 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,079 what happened with the breakout and what his role is going to be shifting to, 474 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,680 because it's easy to assume that everything's going to be the same. Someone's 475 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,119 going to take a next step and they're going to get more time on ice 476 00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:29,720 and they're going to score more points, and that isn't always necessarily true. 477 00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:34,799 One thing that's interesting about Cousins is he had about seven more expected goals or 478 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:39,000 seven more actual goals and expected goals. So is he going to continue that? 479 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,960 I don't know. That seems like a big gap to fill. Maybe 480 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,839 he was getting a little lucky, you might say. I do also like 481 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,720 to look at where did these goals and points come from, and if they're 482 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,039 a little bit more on the periphery, that makes you wonder if you can 483 00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:58,599 continue to score from that far away, and he did have quite a few 484 00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:05,559 goals from the reverse OVI side the right dot, and so that's interesting, 485 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,599 especially as a right handed shot. And so does that continue, I don't 486 00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,280 know. Some of them are were from far away, so I don't know 487 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,400 the context about all of them, but it seems reasonable that he might be 488 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,679 losing a few goals. The other thing to notice that he's pretty poor defensively, 489 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,280 and if you look at the center depth that they have there in Buffalos, 490 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:31,480 there's some questions there. There's obviously Tage is the huge breakout star and 491 00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:36,559 he looks amazing like he can handle just about anything. But then you have 492 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,199 some other guys coming up right. You have Casey Middlestat who had a really 493 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:45,599 awesome breakout himself last season. Peyton Krebs, who, yeah, who knows 494 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:49,039 exactly what's happening with him. He seems like he's meddling in the NHL. 495 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,000 He might be a good subject for a different article. Tyson Jost has been 496 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,119 serviceable at times, Jury Kulik is coming, and then you also have guys 497 00:34:57,159 --> 00:35:01,280 like Matthew Savoy and Noah Oastland who look like they're going to be pretty competent. 498 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:06,559 Middle to bottom sixers, So you have a lot of people coming for 499 00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:08,800 this potential time on ice that Cousins is getting, and so the question is 500 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:15,639 can he handle the center second center assignment. I think that's questionable based on 501 00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:20,480 his defensive impacts. He might need to be more and maybe in the wing, 502 00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:22,559 or maybe he loses some of that time on ice to some of the 503 00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,960 other players, and so I think you can't necessarily assume that he's going to 504 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,280 keep that same role. And so far this season, it's interesting. We 505 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,519 have a small sample size, but he's lost basically that minute that he gained 506 00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,119 from the previous season, and so's his time on ice is down, his 507 00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:42,960 power play time, power play time on ice is up, so he kind 508 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,599 of being deployed more in an offensive and power play role, which is good. 509 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,199 You like that obviously, but you don't like losing all that even strength 510 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,599 time on ice because obviously that's just more opportunity to score. So far, 511 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,840 it is a little bit concerning. The question really for me is just how 512 00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:02,519 much higher can Cousins go or can he even repeat that seventy point season. 513 00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:06,719 And I'm a little skeptical that happens. I think he'll continue to be the 514 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,360 fourth best player in terms of time on ice, but I think middle Sat 515 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,199 is a legitimate threat, and I also wonder what else is coming after him, 516 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,519 and maybe he I don't know that he takes another step forward. As 517 00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:22,960 my concern, I think that he could continue to be around a sixty five 518 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,199 to seventy point player. But I don't think that Cousins is a point per 519 00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:30,280 game plus kind of guy. And if you look at the cat Friendly page, 520 00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,960 he's basically being paid similar to Tage Thompson, And I made this point 521 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,400 before that I think that Tage contract is going to age extremely well because I 522 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,719 think he's a certified point per game plus kind of player going forward, even 523 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,840 though he struggled a little bit to start this season. But I believe in 524 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:51,239 tred In Tage, most of his metrics are off the charts and he's awesome, 525 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,239 and that is not true for Cousins. There definitely seems to be a 526 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:58,320 little bit more luck in his seventy point seasons, So his contract, I'm 527 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,519 not so sure is going to look as pretty and a few years Jesse, 528 00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:07,440 what do you think am I off the mark there with with Cousins. I 529 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,199 think that Cousins is going to be part of this corps, but they don't 530 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:15,280 necessarily need him to be the offensive superstar of it. They certainly have found 531 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,639 a lot of talent to go around it, and there seems to be more 532 00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:22,559 on the way. Everybody can have different roles, and I'm excited. I'm 533 00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:27,880 excited that Cousins at least is successful. I was depressed that middle stat and 534 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,639 then Cousins and all these guys had sort of washed up on the rocks. 535 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:35,519 It seems like for a while, it's nice to see that he is breaking 536 00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:39,400 through. Victor, we have. The next guy on your list is a 537 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:45,000 guy who has not broken through. Another one that's been disappointing because I made 538 00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:50,719 a big deal out of him being Wisconsin Badger. Dylan Holloway was a mid 539 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,000 first round draft pick by the Edmonton Oilers. No point so far in four 540 00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:58,360 games for the Oilers, eleven thirty four average time on ice, So he's 541 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,639 not getting out there that much. And when he is with Ryan McLeod and 542 00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:06,760 the beloved Connor Brown, who is catching all the heat so far this year 543 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:12,159 with them, is Dylan Holloway showing anything? Er? Why did you tell 544 00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:16,239 us about old Dylan in what you found when you looked into him deeper from 545 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:21,599 one Dylan to another, right cousins to Holloway. Yeah, Halloway, he's 546 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,519 someone I remember. We definitely have talked about him a bit ever since his 547 00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:30,880 days at Wisconsin. He has definitely been an interesting prospect to follow. He 548 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:37,519 had a different interesting trajectory there with being drafted, and he initially played in 549 00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:44,000 the AJHL, which is a very low equivalency league, and he was awesome 550 00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:46,360 in that league, and then went straight to the University of Wisconsin, which 551 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,639 is a massive jump. Like people don't understand, like how big of a 552 00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:52,679 difference that is, Like it would be a big jump for him to go 553 00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,639 to the AJHL and then the WHL, and he went like several steps above 554 00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:59,599 that to the NCAA. And he was pretty awesome in that first year half 555 00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:02,400 point per game or so. And then he followed that up with a sophomore 556 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,480 season that was even more impressive with thirty five points in twenty three games. 557 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,840 So he's one of these guys who increased his star potential from draft to d 558 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,960 plus one year, which is really hard to do. And then he went 559 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,360 straight from there to the AHL, which is another really massive jump we always 560 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:21,119 talk We often talk about how that's actually the bigger jump going from junior or 561 00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:23,440 NCAA to the HL, and not from the HL to the NC to the 562 00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:28,199 NHL, because that's actually not as big of a difference, even though it 563 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,039 is hard. So when he did that, though, when he went professional, 564 00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:36,719 he took quite a step back. He was close to half or so. 565 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,639 But he still had a pretty strong season with Bakersfield in the AHL twenty 566 00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:43,880 two points in thirty three games, so it wasn't like terrible or anything. 567 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,559 And then the other thing that's interrupted his development a little bit is he's been 568 00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:52,159 hanging out basically getting some NHL time, which is good but also maybe a 569 00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:57,880 little hard for some consistency. So he's at fifty five NHL games as Dylan 570 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,119 Holloway, And yeah, the thing is that where does his upside lie is 571 00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:05,519 really the big question because he's been okay, I mean in terms of his 572 00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:09,239 in terms of his impacts, he's neutral to slightly negative in terms of his 573 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:15,599 offense, but his defensive game has been pretty good and that's something that Edmonton 574 00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:20,000 needs because they have a lot of they have a few obviously really strong offensive 575 00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:22,920 forwards. But he's needing to play a little bit more defensively, and that's 576 00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:27,119 way basically what's been asked to him, and he's so far this season he's 577 00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:30,400 been driving, he's been helping drive play for his line. That hasn't translated 578 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,039 to points. But this is my worry, is that he's going to be 579 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:36,960 asked to help support a line a little bit more than he's going to be 580 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,119 asked to be the offensive leader. Now, of course, there's always the 581 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:45,199 chance that he gets up with mcdriye, McDavid and Drycidle and that's obviously the 582 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,599 boon that people would want and what people have been talking about forever, and 583 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,360 a lot of that is just going to really boil down, obviously to what's 584 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,280 going on with the team and if there's an opportunity for that. People thought, 585 00:40:55,519 --> 00:41:00,280 I thought that that might be Connor Brown's spot, and he has in 586 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,960 that role, but he's also not really done much with it. They still 587 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,199 have Hyman and Kin who also tend to fill that role pretty nicely, and 588 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:13,119 we've also seen some more focal and Ryan McLeod, so we've seen a revolving 589 00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,000 door there. It's still possible that he really clicks with one of those and 590 00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:20,920 just stays for a long time, and I think there's still a really decent 591 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,280 chance that that happens. He still shows like he has some pretty good upside, 592 00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:29,559 and at fifty five games, there's still plenty of time for him to 593 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,639 realize that offensive potential. So I still think that he can be a top 594 00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:39,159 six power play point producer. Getting the opportunity is obviously key, and a 595 00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:44,599 couple of the models still show him as a pretty good chance of having more 596 00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:47,320 offensive upside. I think I like him so much more than someone like Jared 597 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:53,079 Anderson Dolan because there is a little bit more offense showing, and he's not 598 00:41:53,400 --> 00:42:00,199 just defensively, but he's shown enough defensive acumen that that's not like a concern 599 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,119 for him as it is with poj or someone like that. So I still 600 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,920 have hope for Halloway. I'm not saying that he's going to be He's not 601 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,199 going to be one of my top prospects that I'm banging the table for, 602 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,679 but I'd be happy to hold him until he gets to his miners limits. 603 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,280 Like one of my leagues, we have one season, and so if he's 604 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,760 like in eighty games and then you got to make a decision that might be 605 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,480 a little tight because for this season, I'm not sure that he gets the 606 00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:28,159 full opportunity Dylan Holloway, but if you have a little bit longer, I 607 00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:31,559 think it might be worth it because depending on what happens with the Oilers in 608 00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:36,320 the offseason and how he develops, he might be in for a much bigger 609 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,440 role as early as next season. Jesse, are you down with that plan? 610 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:44,320 Hey, I'm down with it. If it can happen, It's I 611 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,360 still have to see it before I can believe it. But yeah, Dylan 612 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,679 holloways, it's a slow burn with this guy, and if he can prove 613 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,679 that he can succeed where he is right now, he all you need to 614 00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:58,119 do is win the lottery on this team and get up there with some of 615 00:42:58,159 --> 00:43:04,000 those elite centermen and you have yourself a chance, Victor. Everything's bigger in 616 00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:08,039 Texas except Maverick Bork, who's only five to ten and nonetheless, he has 617 00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:14,239 been a nice little breakthrough with the Dallas Stars. He started out with four 618 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,480 points and three games with the Texas Stars down in the AHL, and he 619 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,800 is poised to make a impact yet again. The Dallas Stars have all kinds 620 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:30,039 of guys but you brought up in another article on Maverick Bork that it's going 621 00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:32,599 to take a little bit. What's the story on Maverick Bork and how do 622 00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:38,079 you see his development coming. I think you can talk about Bork without acknowledging 623 00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:43,000 the ridiculous, amazing season that Why Johnson had. And I think a lot 624 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,079 of people thought that Bork could be that guy. He was a year older, 625 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,199 it seemed like he was ready. He had already had a strong season 626 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,199 HL season, or he had the opportunity to have a strong AHL season. 627 00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:58,440 He was coming from the queue, but he was a year older, he 628 00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:00,440 played a little bit longer, and it seemed like he was ready, but 629 00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:05,079 instead he got put in the AHL. And we know what happened with why 630 00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,239 Johnson. He hit it out of the park. And it's interesting to look 631 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:13,679 the look between the two and wonder, what's you know. Was that really 632 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,840 Bork not taking the opportunity or was it why Johnston seizing it and just impressing 633 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,760 everybody. I think it's probably a little bit of both, and I don't 634 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,719 think it necessarily reflects badly that Johnston did so well. I think that if 635 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,639 Bork could have won that job or been a little bit more prepared, maybe 636 00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:32,840 he would have been there. But what he showed in the AHL last season 637 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,480 was extremely impressive. He showed some fantastic scoring, he showed more maturity in 638 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:43,079 his two way game, So I think that that really shows a lot. 639 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,960 He's pretty ready. I was a little surprised that he didn't make the roster, 640 00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:50,119 but then they brought in Matt du Shane, Craig Smith, Sam Steele, 641 00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,679 so they have a lot of those middle bottom six guys that are definitely 642 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,280 Nhler's So it made it a little bit harder for Borke to be able to 643 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,159 show everything that he can s show. But I do think that that Bork 644 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,639 can be whether it's partially through this season or next season. He's right on 645 00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:13,119 the cusp of breaking in and being a really important impact player. Right now, 646 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,840 you look at what the stars are doing, and but it's great that 647 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:22,440 they still have Tyler Segan doing some reasonable things. Matt Dushane is hanging out 648 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,280 I think eventually, and Marchman playing like second line minutes along with sometimes Jamie 649 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,440 Benn. But I think we have a clear top duo of Hintson, Robertson, 650 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,039 and I think in the future that's going to be probably why Johnson, 651 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,320 Maverick Bork, and maybe Logan Stankovin is going to be in there. So 652 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,039 those guys, along with Joe Pavelski, who's probably going to play till he's 653 00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:45,920 one hundred. But between those young guys, I think that they're going to 654 00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:49,840 take more of a role than Second and Ben, and they'll have a really 655 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,840 strong kind of bottom six there with Marchman and those guys. So I do 656 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:59,639 think that Bork has the maturity to play a strong, stronger two way game 657 00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:02,239 and that what they've been wanting him to do. And I think that he 658 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:07,440 still has a ton of upside and he's already showing it in the AHL. 659 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:13,360 So you love that his equivalencies are still reasonable enough to suggest the equivalents are 660 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,599 similar to where Jason Robinson's ended up and he ended up being a superstar. 661 00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:22,800 So it's not like it's a for sure thing, but it is something where 662 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,239 you still look at his progression and you think, yeah, this is still 663 00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:29,159 going. Really, I don't really have concerns. It's not like he really 664 00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:32,320 blew it or anything like that. I think that there's still I think there 665 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,920 should be plenty of excitement for Bork, and I don't think you should hold 666 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,639 what Johnson did away from him. And I don't think you should worry so 667 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:44,079 much about Logan stankovin coming, because I think that they can be complimentary. 668 00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:46,239 They're not going to play the exact same role. I do think that Bork 669 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:51,360 is going to be more of a two way guy just because they're going to 670 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,639 need him to. But he's good enough to play in a top six role 671 00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:58,559 with some of those exciting forwards that they have coming. Yeah, I'm still 672 00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:00,880 excited about him. I still think he can reach pretty high heights. The 673 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:06,199 question is how high? But I think that he's still I would buy him. 674 00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:07,920 I still think I would buy him as like a seventy plus point player. 675 00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:10,960 What do you think about that? For Bork? Everick work Jessin. 676 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,519 That would be awesome. That's what we've been waiting for. Like you said, 677 00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:20,360 the question is how are you going to fiddle these guys in? They've 678 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,920 brought in such a generation. Really, Dallas has just brought in a generation 679 00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:30,000 of amazing forwards, hints Robertson. And along with Bork, then why Johnson? 680 00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:34,360 And then you got Bork and stank Coben I guess you got tied to 681 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,880 Landry who's been developed there, probably not on that kind of a par How 682 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:44,880 do you see Bork comparing in that group? Is he last in that elite 683 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,880 group as far as what you're expecting with future production at that seventy point marker. 684 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,239 I think Logan Stankovin has the highest upside of all these guys, but 685 00:47:53,719 --> 00:48:00,519 it's also a little bit more questionable just in terms of his translatability and how 686 00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:04,960 many I don't have. I don't have questions about whether he can score in 687 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,840 the NHL, because I definitely think that he can. He's such a His 688 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,239 motor is amazing, his playmaking is amazing. He has lots of ways that 689 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,800 he can leverage his skill at the next level. What I'm more concerned about 690 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,320 is are you going to play Logan stankovi in twenty minutes a night. I 691 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,000 don't know about that. I don't know how good of a matchup he's going 692 00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:27,719 to be, but I think he's still good enough to play fifteen to sixteen 693 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,840 maybe minutes. And whether that's more offensive or maybe he's on the power kill 694 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,639 or something like that, I'm not sure. But Bork should be more of 695 00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:40,840 a two to three C getting decent amount of even strength minutes, and so 696 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,079 I think that's really important. And Johnson, I think is the real wildcard 697 00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:49,280 here because they have had him in a more offensive, complimentary role, but 698 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:54,400 I think he could slide to the middle potentially and take over that two C 699 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,199 role or something like that. Sank Ovin has the highest upside, and I 700 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,000 think it's actually pretty close with Pork and Johnson. It's just Johnson has shown 701 00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:06,400 it already, so obviously you got to lean him. So I would probably 702 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,519 put Pork at the end, with a little bit more security of making it 703 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:15,679 and sticking, but less upside, just a little bit more certainty with Pork. 704 00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:19,280 But yeah, I would have them Stank Covid Johnston. Actually, I 705 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,239 think I would have Johnston first, just because he's already played a full season, 706 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:27,960 and then stank Covin and then Pork. Yeah, that's fair. One 707 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:34,039 has proven it, the others seem to have explosive upside. Victor moving on, 708 00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:37,199 There was one more question that we got on David Edstrom Tanner Mullendyke. 709 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:43,000 This was from why didn't you tell us? We got this question from a 710 00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:45,800 patron, right, I believe, So it was in the it was in 711 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:51,079 the question of episode discussion guys that people wanted to hear about. I will 712 00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:54,079 do a little bit. I will preface this with saying Tanner Mullendyke and David 713 00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:59,840 Edstrom. It's I tend not to like to overreact to early season production. 714 00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:02,199 There's some guys that are just killing it and some guys that are not doing 715 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,599 so well. But when you have such a small sample size of games, 716 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,239 you don't want to overreact. There's plenty of examples of guys that have completely 717 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,440 turned their seasons around, but it is important to note or I guess it's 718 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:19,559 interesting to note that Tanner Mullendyke, who was taken twenty fourth overall by Nashville, 719 00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:22,000 and he was definitely talked about as one of the best skaters in the 720 00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:28,000 draft and already has mobility that's NHL level. There were questions about how he 721 00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:31,239 would translate his offense and whether he was more than just a kind of bottom 722 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:37,760 pairing or middle pairing two way guy. But so far this season eleven points 723 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,679 in seven games for the Saskatoon Blades, and he's a defenseman in case that 724 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:49,639 wasn't clear, So he's definitely leveraging that offensive acumen that he maybe didn't show 725 00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:54,000 as much, and he was pretty close to under half point per game last 726 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:59,639 season, so this is looking like a massive points explosion. Tanner Mollendyke has 727 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,199 so far of his at assist, which isn't that many, but he definitely 728 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,800 has more secondary assist than primary cists. So his primary point production is if 729 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,599 you just look at it that way, is a little less impressive. It's 730 00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:16,119 closer to point per game as opposed to eleven points in seven games, So 731 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,239 it's possible that some of that extra point production is just noise, So we 732 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,679 need to be we need to be careful to not overestimate. But he's definitely 733 00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:29,719 a really interesting prospect, Tenner Mullendyke, and he's definitely someone who in terms 734 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,840 of just will he play in the NHL, I think definitely, just the 735 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:37,440 question is what his upside will be. The other guy, David Edstroum. 736 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,920 Yet he's another one who was just drafted thirty second overall by Vegas, and 737 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,920 that one was a little bit surprising. I think some people didn't know that 738 00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:49,400 much about him, or weren't that he wasn't on too many people's radar. 739 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,719 But he did play mostly in the J twenty in Sweden last year point per 740 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,159 game, and then he got eleven SHL games where he had four points. 741 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,239 So far this season, he's already past the point total from last season in 742 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,199 the SHL six points in twelve games, so half point per game in the 743 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,599 SHL is looking pretty nice. And so far this season you can also say 744 00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:15,559 that he's been driving play really well. His Fenwick in for for Loanda is 745 00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:20,360 sixty one percent and so that's looking pretty good. Although he also has more 746 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,000 secondary assists than primary assists. That's also a really small sample size. You're 747 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,199 talking about four asists, so three of them are secondary, one was primary. 748 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,599 So anyways, that doesn't necessarily mean too much. But Edstrom is someone 749 00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:37,920 who probably could have a pretty decent breakout season. He's got good size, 750 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,440 good mobility, and if he can increase his scoring then he'll be more exciting. 751 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,800 And yeah, so Vegas possibly got a good one. So that's what 752 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,280 I would say about those two Jesse great increased production so far in their D 753 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,519 plus one season, but it's a little early to tell, and you always 754 00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:54,880 have to be careful of that noise with secondary assist which is something that we 755 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,119 can look into. If you want to hear about someone on the show, 756 00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:02,760 what do you think about those Jesse, Yeah, yeah, I think that's 757 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,400 a fair earlier. Actually, really is too early to say a whole lot 758 00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:10,480 about guys who were just drafted last year. And that's why we bring continuing 759 00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:17,159 coverage throughout the year looking at some of these guys down in various junior leagues. 760 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:31,639 Victor, We're gonna take a break, come back, and a couple 761 00:53:31,639 --> 00:53:35,360 of things to remind you of before we get out of here today. First 762 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,159 of all, our show is brought to you by fan Tracks. You can 763 00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,519 move and should move all of your leagues over there. Ask them and they'll 764 00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:44,679 help you. You can start new ones. 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