Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man,
I'm forty. Go ahead, make my day every single week. I
put my freaking heart and soul into this. I don't go out there and
laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's funny to me. I don't want to
go out there and get embarrassed on Monday night football. For everybody, I
think this at the beginning of a beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed
from yesterday. Still the same person I was yesterday, and I got the
same thing for you that I had yesterday. You know why I'm here.
You play to win the game. You don't play to just play it.
That's a great thing about sports. You play to win, and I don't
care if you don't have any wins. You go play to win. When
you start telling me it doesn't matter to retire, get out for the matter.
Free agency matters, that's for certain, and in today's day and age,
with the teams that we follow the most closely, it's vital. How
good have they been? The Pistons and or the Red Wings. That's our
poll question for the day. Which team has had the better free agent signing
period? Wings, Pistons, or neither. You can vote as often as
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glad you're with us on this Tuesday. Matt Shepard here on XUES and Bros.
Across the Great State of May Michigan, Monday through Friday, six until
nine. Trent Bally is our producer. Today eight thirty five, we will
talk with Max Boltman, he writes for The Athletic, and we'll talk about
the Red Wings and their free agency signings and what they need to do.
Because he was very critical of him in an article yesterday. It's a really
good read. We'll talk with him at eight thirty five and we'll look him
forward to it very much. Of course, the Tigers head yesterday off.
They will take on the Twins in game one of a three game series starting
tonight. Trek Stuble takes them out for Detroit, a team that has been
well. To say it's been struggling is stating the obvious. I did see
something yesterday on social media which stunned me and maybe it shouldn't. But I
saw something yesterday that said Spencer Torkelsen for this team for the Tigers, ranked
second on the club in doubles with fifteen. He's also sixth on the team
and extra base hits, which really shouldn't matter all that much. I suppose
if you're sixth, I mean, come on, that's not real high.
The problem is he hasn't played a Major League baseball game since June first.
He has not recorded an extra base hit since May twenty sixth. You see
what I mean. So I've been talking about this for a while now,
and I don't think it's revolutionary. I'm not going to sit here and say
I'm the only one. But it's something that I identified a long time ago,
and that is the lack of power. That kind of highlights it for
you right there. Troubling, serious problem, not going away are the weekly
power rankings that we have brought up on a Tuesday each and every week.
We don't have to dwell on it. It's from our friends at cbssports dot
com, and they what they do is they rank every every Major League baseball
team and then they give you an idea of what they were ranked last week.
Are they up? Are they down? And whatever is, whatever it
is, it will be giving you in numerical fashion. Hey, they're up
to four spots from last week. So the Phillies remained number one. That's
not a surprise. I mean that's a team that is dealing with some injuries.
It was Trey Turner, he's back. It was jt Realmuto, he's
still loud. And now it's Bryce Harper, that's Kyle Schwarber, so AHAMMI
and a poll Groin respectively, and yet they keep on chugging long. I
thought what was number What was interesting is number two. And again this is
this is very subjective. You you and I may have different beliefs on who
which team ranks where it should in the you know, in the in the
thirty rankings. But what it's what it does tell you is that there are
certain teams having good weeks, you know, they start to put things together.
They've got the Guardians at number two, which is a little surprising because
Kansas City beat them in a series three out of four over the weekend.
But Cleveland is starting to gain I think the respect that it deserves. Rather
than a surprise, people are starting to look at Cleveland as more of a
legitimate contender all the more, three LA Dodgers four, and then the Yankees
five, and after that. I think it's fair to say that those are
the for the most part, those are the top five teams, and you
can shuffle them in and out, all right, and I think those are
the teams that legitimately have a chance to win a World Championship. I will
be honest with you, I don't I don't know how Cleveland could possibly win
it all. But I didn't think they'd win the division coming into the season.
So it's time to start practicing what I preach. I tell people all
the time, and not just on this radio show, but I tell people
all the time. You know, give credit where credit is due. Why
do you not believe in a team just because they haven't done it before?
Well, hold on a second, when's the last time the Phillies did it?
Now they've made the World Series, But I mean, when's the last
time they won it? Baltimore, Yankees, Dodgers, don't give me.
I mean, stop with the covid okay sixty sixteen schedule. Stop with that.
Brewers are ranked six. People think they can do it. Let's be
real here, Okay, let's be fair. Why can't Cleveland do it?
They've earned what they have right now, who have they lost to or at
what point during the season have they looked Have you looked at him and said,
sorry, you're exactly who I thought. You pulled the wool over my
eyes for long enough. Now you are who I thought you were. Come
on, they haven't done that. They've been very, very consistent. And
of course, look, anytime you're winning a division, you have to be
consistent, right, But we're past the midway point. Now. We can't
change the rules while things are going on. You and I said X amount
of games is when we are going to start believing in a specific team X
amount of games? Not many of you claimed the midway point. Shop,
I'm going to pass. I'm going to reserve judgment until the midway point.
Well worried. We're past the eighty one game threshold and they're still getting it
done. So I think it's fair to say to them, or to say
out loud, let's let's consider them a contender, because, like I said,
if we believe the other teams, Philadelphia and I think they're fantastic.
It's been since two thousand and eight, they won it. I mean,
it's not fair to say they haven't been there because they were there in twenty
twenty two. You know that Houston beat them. Dodgers have been there,
Granted, I said, forget twenty twenty, but you know they did get
there in sixteen, seventeen or seventeen and eighteen, I believe, but lost.
Cleveland was there in twenty sixteen. What's wrong with that? I mean
they lost, but they were still there Game seven. Yeah, they've been
there more frequent or most recently than the Yankees. Right when was the last
time the Yankees were there? Two thousand and nine? Yeah, when Girardi
won. Then they beat who they beat them, Phillies. I think so.
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players, teams, you got to convince me. I get it. I
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twenty one thousand. I know there's a lot of people who feel like,
oh, you know what, you talk too much tigers in the morning.
Well, today, what do we do. We've kind of diverted things slightly.
We still talk baseball, but talking about the recent power rankings with the
Phillies one, the Guardians two, the Orioles three, the Dodgers four,
and the Yankees five. Not a surprise. Probably Baltimore and Cleveland are two
teams. I think if you're not going to root for the Tigers and you
know they're done, root for these two teams because of their pay rolls,
because of how they go about their business. Baltimore suffered through some mighty years
of inability and of an organization that was just not high on anybody's radar,
not even those in Baltimore, not any in the Washington, DC area.
They tried to be as patient as they could, as did their fan base,
to let their younger players marinate in the minors, and when they were
ready, they called them up. And look at how successful they are now.
Cleveland has always done it on a shoe string budget, and you and
I don't like it, and we sure don't like the Tigers following suit.
Although the Tigers have a higher payroll, it's how they do it. Maybe
you consider them a rival, and I think that's fair. I think Cleveland
and Chicago makes sense as rivals, although the odd thing is it's probably only
a rivalry in one sport, if you can even call it that, in
baseball, whereas in Chicago it's a rivalry in hockey, it's a rivalry in
basketball, it's a rivalry in football as well, and perhaps baseball if you
consider the White Sox arrival anyway. Bottom line is you may consider them a
rival, but what you do have to do is really respect how they win
and how they've built their team. And I think they're getting their just due.
And when we talk about a team like Cleveland at fifty two and thirty
on the year, fifty two wins really impressive. Yankees have fifty four,
Orioles have fifty three. Granted they play in a better division. Although Minnesota
and Kansas City are pretty damn good folks, those two teams have more wins
than Boston. Those two teams would be leading the American League West. If
Kansas City and Minnesota were playing in the AL West, they would be leading
that division. Oh, they'd be tied, okay with Seattle forty seven wins,
not bad. Play it out, they have more. They'd be in
second in the NL West, they'd be close in the NL Central, and
they'd be in second in the NL East. When we sit there and rip
on our own division, and oftentimes in the past it's been justified. But
this year it is viewed, or should be viewed, with the top three
teams as a very competitive division. I'm not going to call it the best,
but it's pretty damn good. And we'll get the first hand look.
Even though as Tiger fans you've seen them play against Minnesota earlier this year they
split the four game set, you'll get a first hand look at the Twins
starting to let's see how they do against a guy like Trek Skubel, who
many people is the odds on leader for Cy Young Award in the American League.
But this leads me to where the Tigers are in this latest power ranking
pole. Twins, by the way, are eighth, Royals are ninth.
So if you take this pole, and I know it's subjective, I know
all the asterisks you want to put nets to it, but as of right
now, midway through the Major League campaign, three of the top ten teams
are from the AL Central. That's impressive and that's as far as it's going
to go the Tigers. They have ranked twenty sixth out of thirty, only
the Marlins, the a's Rockies and White Sucks are worse. What's the trend
their chef, because I know they show how much they've fallen or risen.
They've fallen one spot. Okay, the Angels leap frog them because they just
beat them three out of four. So the Tigers, here's what they write.
Jack Flaherty has one hundred and fifteen strikeouts against fourteen walks in eighty nine
innings this season. The Tigers are moving themselves firmly into non contender status,
so Flarity might be a hot commodity on a possibly dry trade market. Two
things jump out to me there. One is non contender status. I think
they're already there. I don't think they're moving that way at all. I
think they're already there. I don't know how you feel about it, but
when you're fifteen games back and when you're eight games under five hundred, and
you can't win at home any more than you win on the road, I
think those are disastrous signs. Certainly feels like since the summer began that sentiment
has really solidified itself. I mean, I think over the last month,
I don't know if you want to use Torkulsen being sent down as your benchmark.
But ever since then, I think most people have kind of checked out.
That's a good question. Det that's a future poll question. Perhaps,
do you feel like fans have checked out? We don't get a lot of
comments regarding the Tigers, No, which tells you something. These are either
tells us something about our show, or tells us something about Tigers fans,
or maybe both. I don't know, but yeah, I think a lot
of people. Look, you talk to a lot of people. I talk
to a lot of people. How do you feel about the Tigers? I
literally had a friend of mine over the weekend say I haven't watched them since
Opening Day, which you know, I kind of I was taken aback by
that. That's pretty extreme. Yeah, I said, how is that possible?
What do you mean since Opening Day? But to meet you in the
middle there, chep, I mean, I've got buddies who haven't watched since
May Memorial Day? What are they? Are they watching anything? What are
they doing instead? I mean I get it from from May to because maybe
they're watching the NBA or watching the NHL, right, I mean, something
else might be occupying their headspace, their energy. I totally understand that,
but at what point. Once those two seasons are over, where are you
turning your sports attention to. Don't give me the copa America. Okay,
I doubt it's Wimbledon in the first and second round. It might be golf,
but you pick that up on Friday Saturday. You're not even watching opening
round. I doubt, unless it's a major, or maybe they're just saying,
you know what, I'm done. I'm done for the summer. I'm
gonna enjoy my summer. I'm gonna go play golf. I'm gonna go fishing,
I'm gonna go out on the boat. I'm gonna go up north.
I'm gonna do whatever I want where I don't have to worry about checking the
standings and how disappointing my baseball team is. Yeah, it's a sports sabbatical
for some people because Chefy and I are sports nuts, so obviously we're gonna
watch this. But I think you would even concede this if you take a
step back and look at it objectively. This Tiger's team is not very fun
to watch, period, especially And then I would ask you this, if
you didn't have to do a daily show and be ready for it, would
you still watch them. I would. I would, but I understand the
point you're making. Yeah, I would too, because we love sports.
We love baseball. We don't love this baseball nor do we love this baseball
team or what's going on, but we do love baseball. So Detroit down
one to twenty six. Okay, the Red Wings have done some signings.
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five after the hour, welcome back. Hey, let's get to the poll
question yesterday. I'm going to get to some techs because I neglected that yesterday
when we had some good conversations yesterday, I thought, including Deshaun Tate who
joined us, we were going to replay that interview for folks who missed it,
but won't get that chance here this morning. If you did miss any
of it, we could put it. We do have it on our social
media sites and it's also on our podcast So check out our podcasts please.
On X's and Bros. We put the best that we've got on a daily
basis out there. Trent does a great job of keeping you in tune in
case you you missed any of it. But a couple of days ago,
or actually last Friday, we had a poll question that usually we answer in
the eight o'clock hour on Monday, and I neglected to get to that.
So I want to do that. I want to in the eight o'clock hour
today answer yesterday's poll question and just a reminder of what ours is today.
Which team has had the better free agent signing period? Is it the Red
Wings, is it the Pistons or neither? Right now early on, neither
is leading the way. So if a Friday question Trent was around golf.
And the reason we brought this up is because Scotti Scheffler has had such an
incredible run this year, winning six tournaments before the month of July. Not
many have ever done that. I remember we gave a statistic about how many
events he had won and I think before June and Tom Watson was the only
player to ever have done one. I believe five before June first. Now
he's won six before July first, and I think the last player to do
that was Tiger Woods somewhere alone those And because of that, we thought,
you know what this is kind of we do a lot of the baseball and
football and basketball and hockey poll questions on x'es and bros. But look,
we know there's a lot of golfers out there too, so I think really
important, excuse me, really important that we keep that in mind too.
Tiger Woods in two thousand, that season, it'll never happen again. I
wouldn't guess. I guess I shouldn't say never. But he won nine times,
He had three majors. Right, he had more than double or almost
double the prize money of Phil Mickelson at the time, who was second.
So he won the US Been, He won the Open Championship at St.
Andrews. He won the PGA in a playoff, so he was that two
thousand was just it was a dominant season, right. Scotty Scheffler is the
first golfer since Woods and nine to win six times in a year. So
many people were comparing the two seasons. Woods in two thousand had uh at
the time, well of Scheffler's six wins. They each had six wins.
Woods won three majors, Scheffler won two. Woods in the top five had
twelve, Scheffler ten. Woods won sixty five percent of the earnings. Scheffler's
won fifty nine percent. The scoring average actually Scheffler has a better scoring average,
and he has a few other statistics that are better, so we thought
it was worthy of putting that on there. I think there's a lot of
people who immediately look at it go there's no way, Come on, give
me a break. There's no way he could have something similar to tiger Woods
when you mentioned greatest golfer zever, Jack Nicholas, Tiger Woods, Ben Hogan,
right, certain players monumental status, Scotti Scheffler, it's more about,
hey, he's the best now, but there's no way he's one of the
best of all time. He continues like this another year or two, you
are going to be talking about him in the same realm, not as of
but in the same realm. So that's the reason we've had that poll question.
So correct me if I'm wrong there, Trent. I believe we got
a pretty good response to that. What was the final results of that poll
question from Friday? Yeah, we asked you guys, Scotti Scheffler deserved to
be in the same conversation as Tiger Woods, and it was a resounding no.
Seventy two percent of you said no, and shef I'm curious your thoughts
on this how much of that do you think has to do with his personality?
Because he has some of that Tim Duncan, Pete Sampress. He's very
straight laced, quiet, a little stoic, some might say, and he's
not super marketable from a personality standpoint. Do you think that has a hand
in this at all? I love those comparisons first and foremost, Tim Duncan
and Pete Sampress. That's really well set. Before I answer that, what's
Tiger Woods' personality? I mean, is he Bryson Deshambo? No, but
he's definitely he gets fired up. Okay, he gets fired up on certain
but when he's in front of the camera he's locked in. Yeah, I
mean he's he's very stoic. Is that a good way to say it?
Sure? Okay, there's not much personality in front of the camera. There
is emotion on the golf course, more than Scottie Scheffler, for sure,
But I don't know if Tiger Woods would be viewed as a quote unquote personality.
There are certain personalities in sports. Look, Bubba Watson's a personality and
people don't like him because he shows emotion on the course. Here's the bottom
line, we'll make exceptions to what we consider our own personal rules in sports
if the person we're talking about is a winner. Tiger Woods is one of
the greatest champions the golf and or sports world has ever seen. He's stoic,
he doesn't give you much in front of the camera. He's quite honestly
dry and dare I say bored in front of the camera and microphone. But
because he is among the greatest, he gets a pass, and because he's
won, and because he's earned the trust of the fans, he kind of
has a swagger to him, and it works. It works. Doesn't work
for everyone, but it works for Tiger Woods absolutely. The TV networks make
sure they tread lightly when they talk about him when he's struggling. Yeah,
personality. Look, I mean this whole belief that we've got to be entertained,
and we've got to be entertained not just by the person who is participating
in the sport on the field or ice or course or whatever, but also
off. It is a joke because some of the greatest of all time,
we're not like that off their field of play. But if they're great,
we'll give them the pass. That's all that matters win and that's cool.
I'm fine with that. Just make sure you're consistent with that. Don't give
me that you want Lee Trevino all the time. That might be a little
too old for many of you people, but he was very fun, loving
on the course and in front of the microphone too, smiling, happy,
dancing. You want chee chee Rodriguez all the time from Scotti Scheffler because you
want a personality. But you didn't get that with Tiger Woods. You didn't
get with Jack Nicholas. You didn't get it with Arnold Palmer. Phil Micholson
smiled a lot. You may not trust him, but he smiled a lot.
He was very polite. He would talk a lot while he's on the
chorus and talk a lot when he's off the course. He was one of
you when he showed up at a recent public course and made some bets.
Charming, charming, good way to describe it. But you didn't like him
because he wasn't as good as Tiger Woods. Okay, cool, don't give
me the Scottie Shuffler's boring so you don't like him. That's my son's argument.
He's boring in what way he's so consistent. Oh so you want a
guy who sprays it all over the course, all over the course, and
then finds a way to scramble his way to a birdie. People love chaos,
especially in individual sports like this. It's more it makes for a more
exciting viewing experience, right, wrong or indifferent? Yeah? Not. Everyone's
going to be a golf purist and wants to see the pretty shot. It's
the same thing in tennis. Oh yeah. John McEnroe, Jimmy Connors.
Both of them were strong personalities, weren't afraid to complain, weren't afraid to
show their emotion. Dare I say, play with their emotion on their sleeve.
But everybody want to Ben Borg at the time because he was stoic and
he was quote unquote professional. Now today it's completely different. You got guys
with their hats backwards. Guys are screaming left and right, Guys are pointing
at where they thought the ball was hit and it should have been out of
bounds. And people gravitate to herd that our phone number on the Meyer hotline
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and our pole question for you today is pretty simple. Which team has
had better free agent signing period? The Wings, Pistons or neither. Vote
is often as you like on x'es and bros. On Twitter, we got
a caller, Yeah, Mark, Mark from gun Lake wants to chime in.
All right, Hey, Mark, good morning. Do you how are
you? Hey? Hey, I'm loving the conversation. I was born in
sixty I'm as I'll tell you my age right now, so I had to
grow up with Cassius Clay and your conversation this morning reminds me of how he
had to win over the public and when he did not go into the service.
You know, my father, my grandfather, they're all in the Navy
and all that other stuff, and they didn't like him, you know,
and he had to he had to do stuff, you know, for the
public to absolutely love him, you know, And he went over the public,
even though it was hired in the sixties with the you know, the
issues we had in Detroit and all the big cities. But you know,
that's that's what That's what your conversation is leading me to think of was when
I was a kid, you know so, but like a kind of like
a diplomat at a question with the unrest with Russia and Ukraine and Israel,
and I see these commercials come up for the twenty twenty four Olympics. What's
going on with these teams from these countries? Are they going to participate?
Are they going to be accepted? What happens if they go up against each
other? I want to hear your opinion on that a second. It's a
great question. I'm okay, have a great question. Thank you, Yeah,
you too, Mark, It's an excellent question. What happens? I
guess I would ask you this, what happens in a tennis tournament when Andre
Rublev, who's an outstanding tennis player, but he's a Russian, he is
playing somebody from one of those countries they play. Now, I know that's
a little different because you've got, of course, an entire nation being represented
by its athletes. I think, and this is obviously a perfect world.
Wouldn't it be nice to have athletes from Russia and Ukraine in France unite?
Now? I don't think that's going to happen because Russian athletes will probably be
you know, ostracized, or something bad would happen to them when they returned
to their homeland. I don't think it's is that the Olympic governing bodies job
to tell Russian athletes who have been training for years to try and reach this
point. Sorry, you don't deserve to participate in gymnastics because your country is
led by a ruthless idiot. So you and I have seen, based on
our ages, we've seen what's happened in the nineteen eighty Olympics and the controversy
surrounding that, and teams still played or their nations were still represented. So
because certain precedent has been set in that regard, and because I don't believe
those all those athletes share the same views. When you start treading into political
waters with your Olympic athletes, that's a dangerous road to walk, I believe.
So my guess is they would be participating, and I would hope they
would. I could tell you this when you watch tennis. I'm just going
to use this as an example. Okay, when you watch tennis right now
and you see athletes from Russia participating they are not Most nations and their athletes
receive a you know, they have the national flag next to their name,
so you get an idea of who which player is which. Okay, if
Alena Sittlena is of Ukrainian descent, okay, if she's volleying in a in
a major, or or even if she's not, okay, But let's say
she's she's playing against Diana Schnader, she's a Russian teenager in an early round,
so it's Ukraine against Russia. Wouldn't it be great to have those two
come to the net, hug one another, embrace and give us an idea
of how things might be able to change and how they don't really believe in
the cause of what's taking place right now. That would take great guts,
That would take an awful lot of courage by the Russian youngster Schneider to do
that, and I doubt she would. But I don't think they're going to
play and then they're not gonna shake hands or they're not going to embrace like
tennis combatants do. So my guess is they're going to participate. I believe
they should because I don't think they should be punished for the things that they've
done. What if the Olympics were in China, considering what the US in
the past, not right now, but considering what the uh the US has
done and the relations they've had with China, which may not always be a
positive thing, should they Should we be banned from it because of the people
in our government. I know it's different. It's obviously different when you're you're
talking about a war, you're talking about unnecessary death. But no, I'm
I mean, that's that's just my opinion on it. I think I'm not
going to penalize world class athletes for the misguided direction of their government. But
it's a good question, and it's one that I hope others have thought deeply
about when we come back. Clay Thompson signs with Dallas. Signed a three
year contract with the Mavericks. He is a player who will always be membered
as a Golden State Warrior. Excuse me, right, I would think so.
Give me some other players who finished their careers elsewhere think about this for
a minute. Finish their careers elsewhere. That just didn't make much sense.
I'm not saying Thompson and Dallas doesn't make much sense, but there are some
examples of guys who have gone on and finished their careers. Then maybe you
had forgotten. We'll discuss that when we come back and don't forget. Eight
thirty five Max Boltman of the Athletic to talk about the Red Wings on exis
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