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Your seven billion dollars in the two- fold villamose lengo that exists. The

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risk is ninety percent. They are
from SMEs that generate 80 percent. Give

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me twenty minutes of your time and
I, in return, will give you

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information on the most relevant issues in
foreign trade, tax and customs with a

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human touch and let' s traik
a podcast of Magic TVs and Mexica Hello.

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How about a good afternoon, welcome, let' s have a barter,

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as you know, a telese event, magas and Mexico. And,

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well, this week it started very
intense. I don' t know if

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some already commented, but well,
in the customs part, many wanted to

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apply the test or applied the test
for customs people. Some came out a

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little disappointed, but well, it
was part of right now some discussions that

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there are on that subject, but
well I take advantage to greet you,

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to greet my dear Doctor Maximo Carvajal, how are you, Doctor, good

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afternoon welcome to barter? Thank you, Enrique, you know I send him

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a very big hug with those Christmas
balls that so far smells Christmas And well

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he seen pleasure to greet him and
today, of course, a great guest,

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to whom we always thank him for
bringing us so much experience, Master

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Gilberto Martínez, Master how is good
afternoon welcome to make a barter? Thank

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you, thank you, Teacher,
and thank you and everyone for being here

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with us. And well, today' s topic is the reduction of working

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hours, an algido issue that is
still under discussion, so crack is going

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to get good. It' s
today and it' s good to be

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able to give him the word.
I' d like to introduce your looks

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and allow me to. Professor Gilberto
Martínez Quintero is a graduate of the Bachelor

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of Law of the Autonomous University of
Baja California and Specialty in Law and also

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a public accountant at the Instituto Tecnológico
de Tijuana. In addition, he has

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master' s degree in law and
general administration from the UBC. It has

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existed since nineteen hundred and ninety-
nine in various forums such as Kanako,

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Colegio de Contarios Públicos de Baja California, Asociación Mexicana de Contadores Públicos de Baja

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California, Asociación de Profesionales y Mobiliarios
de Tijuana, Colegio de Contadores de Ensenada

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or ABC, Universidad Sertes Universidad UTA
t to mention some on various topics such

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as tax breaks, fiscal defense,
labor law, anti- labado law,

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privacy notice law, among other issues. He has been an independent tax accountant

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for over thirty years and has served
as an accounting expert before the district courts

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of the Federation' s judiciary.
Former tax coordinator of the Faculty of Accounting

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and Administration of the UABC and was
also law coordinator at Cessura University, in

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addition to imparting the charter of tax
law and individual labour law, as well

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as taxes at other universities. Master, we welcome you and thank you very

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much. I would also like to
thank all those who are with us at

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the national level for a barter and, well, I give you the floor

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and thank you. Thank you very
much, Master Daniel, thank you very

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much for this presentation and, above
all, for the invitation. Thank you,

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and you already know that we are
happy to share our opinion, therefore,

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through this kind of talks in which, since we develop certain toral issues

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that concern not only the company,
but also the region, the economy,

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the law, even the country itself. Let us say that this question of

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analysing the problem, because it never
ends. It' s an old-

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fashioned walk, and trouble isn'
t gonna end. And, well,

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this range of talks and analysis that
we do that we dedicate ourselves to these

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topics in particular, because it is
only trying to bring a bit of sand

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and put it to the consideration of
all those who are listening to us,

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therefore, effect precisely that they take
their own or nourish their own opinion And

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those who are entrepreneurs, those who
are advisers, because it also serves as

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something to be able to carry out
excellent advice to the company. In my

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case, well, we dedicated more
than thirty years ago as independent public accountants

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to advising companies and, on the
other hand, in the case of the

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legal career, because more than twenty- five years ago, both in the

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field of employment and in the area
of tax defence. And I also want

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to presume that I have a little
tree. Nothing else you can' t

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see is the little tree and also
from here, competing with engineer Jiméns.

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Of course I do. The Christmas
spirit is no longer here. I am

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not saying Gali Matías, but yes
and this range of reforms that at the

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end of the day we could conclude
that they are not very timely for our

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entrepreneurs, as advisor to employers companies, because we have or we collect genuine

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concerns, those concerns on the part
of our customers where they almost even beg

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us. Tell me how I'
m gonna do it,' cause I

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' m getting more and more expensive
on the payroll. I mean, the

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holidays have already started, and subcontracting
can' t be done. The employers

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' quotas have already been increased by
two thousand twenty- three, two thousand

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thirty to what is fore, and
the minimum wage goes up giving away the

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money of others. You know who
and everyone is not just this government,

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all of them, but raising the
minimum wage and having an impact precisely on

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the costs, on the payroll,
on the prices, on the aguinal,

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which is aired that for the next
year will surely be tested and increased to

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thirty days. And that has an
impact on the payment of the employer'

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s obreo photos, the INFIE,
the NINFONAVIT and the fore because in automatic

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it has to be integrated. He' s leaving. There is an initiative

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to extend the first occasional from twenty- five percent to fifty percent paternity leave,

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which is currently five days, as
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one to extend it to ten days, as originally was in the reform

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of two thousand twelve. And there
is another market Patricia, so, the

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great senator who gives money to the
rest, which is the simplest thing in

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the world, where she doesn'
t say no how, how ten days

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paternity leave we go bearded to thirty
days that the hell not. Of course,

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such initiatives sound very good at the
electoral level and I believe that our

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deputies and senators are being irresponsible in
that regard. They are no longer issuing

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letters to look good and without analyzing, without quantifying, without listening to the

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parties who, at the end of
the day, are going to be wronged

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in the economic question and who will
then vote to the workers themselves definitively.

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This subject even dyes itself, dyes
itself of ideology. So when ideology enters

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into this kind of initiative, because
we are already wrong, because many,

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not even some judges have heard them
in the open Parliament this talk. In

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Congress, three dates were given for
the open parliament that call listening to the

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citizens, listening to the academy,
listening to the parties in pine and a

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judge, a judge if not more
if he said it is not time to

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do justice to the workers. Calm
down, please, sing, then and

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the Mexican Revolution is over. Now
that, now, that must already be

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over the issue. The lawsuit ended
there in nine hundred and twenty- one,

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when the Mexican Revolution began in nine
hundred and ten, that yes,

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indeed, there was a calamity for
the working class. Not there, we

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could see the abuse of big companies, including foreign companies, the two strikes,

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where they had the workers killed in
the Cananea, this river Blanco.

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If there were the enormous conditions,
very ugly and indeed, tightened so much

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the wedge that was seen, because
the bases were laid down, because for

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a movement of such a nature that
we romantically call it the Mexican Revolution,

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it was nothing more than a civil
war and good account. But that must

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be forgotten by now. That doesn' t make sense to be saying good

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anymore. It is that in the
Federal Labour Law, both in the Federal

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Constitution and in the Peral Labor Law, I am going to be increasing the

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benefits, because it is fair for
the workers to hear and the employers because

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that reform goes to both parties and
the employers with whom they will have to

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pay and fight to cover those benefits. You heard them and you took them

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into account. No, no,
no, it' s that one in

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justice. But what are we talking
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sphere of ideology, we go further. I believe that here, among all

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this gibberish that these labor reforms have
become, we have that of labor reduction

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and I believe that here, in
reality, we have to see this issue

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by a multidisciplinary group really to say
it is of greater benefit. I see

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the legal aspect nothing more, but
here, perhaps psychologists can also share,

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because what are the benefits, what
are the advantages, why really, what

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is the benefit of sociologists, anyway
for accountants. And to say for effect,

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that is, well, in an
integral way, to have at least

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overcome all the aspects that it has
that or that imply this important, this

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important initiative, which is the reduction
of labor, because we can start in

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budgets mine, for example, to
say to see the reduction of labor,

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to reduce the week from six days
to five is beneficial. Or it isn

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' t, so imagine yourself.
Don' t imagine as you say now.

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Imagine, for that of course is
childish. No, because if I,

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instead of going to work six days, I am going to work five,

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they will pay me the same salary
in the week, because of course

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it is beneficial for me to vote
soon beneficial as to that I will rest

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for the same salary, but when
we talk about when we talk about that

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statement, we have to see it
with jiribilla with an analysis. I say

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to him in all aspects, especially
economic, even labor, because to see

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the beneficial can immediately. Apparently I
do, but maybe I' m out

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of a job, because, for
example, and I' m telling you

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this at once because it' s
true what clients are telling us how I

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do it, how I do it
and I do it as a lawyer,

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how I do it as an administrator. Help me with this, because I

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won' t be able to bear
it, I' ll have to close

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the changarro. Do not expect not
to close see these alternatives. And one

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of them that I' m giving
you in my case is to check your

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work team. But it is no
longer approved. Don' t do it

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anymore How many workers do you have, then, that a dozen check them

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with magnifying glass one by one and
pick four of them that you' re

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going to fire, that we'
re going to fire, because I'

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m going to support you to get
the costs. Stay with the optimal staff,

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stay with the productive staff, stay
with the staff that shows attitude for

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the job, that shows willingness and
identify the four of twelve four, because

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the payroll is in face that from
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eight to follow the same level of
bidder in your company. Then we already

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have the first pernicious effect, which
was initially beneficial, as it turns out

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that it will not benefit you much. Yeah, you' re going to

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work for five days, but see
when you find work, because while you

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' re already on the street because
that' s what we' re going

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to start ventilating, I mean,
we say it with all his words,

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and it' s not revanchism,
it' s not being against this disposition.

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It' s the need not one
of our client who' s pressing

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that says I' m not going
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going to have to close the Changarro. It' s not like I don

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' t want to help you any
more benefits. I can' t give

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you any more benefits. I'
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You' re winning the ims me, you' re giving the imponavit

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the fore me, it' s
bleeding the payroll tax. The government of

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the state, that is, they' re caught in the skin with those

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little animals that suck your skin.
They' re just squeezing you out,

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because I' m going to tell
you, well, I' m going

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to give you an incentive, and
I, the government of the state,

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don' t invent a new tax, a second tax, on payroll tax.

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Hey, boss, pay salary.
Yeah, yeah, I' m

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promoting employment, paying wages, and
I' m gonna punish myself with a

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tax on the novel. And why, then, for paying wages. Then

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there are taxes even so absurd,
so clumsy that it says good, but

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because I have to pay you a
tax for generating employment. As today'

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s philosopher says, they don'
t have a filler, so you have

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to see it. I insist in
an integral way on the case of reduction,

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yes, immediately. If I earn
five thousand pesos or three thousand pesos

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a week I work six days and
now I' m going to work five,

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they' re going to keep paying
me three thousand, because I'

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m going to rest twice and they' re going to pay me, yes,

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come on, but that' s
right away. You should see the

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effect you' re going to have
even the same prices. That can no

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longer be said by likely economists.
I' m saying not this. We

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have to look at it multidisciplinaryly,
because I do not like to address areas

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of other colleagues who are experts in
your area, but we can insist there

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are clients who are strengthened in what
fits, are medium- sized companies that

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we advise and they do have that
quality. Say well, no, no

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problem. I don' t care
about my team. I' m going

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to give you what the law says
without a problem, after all, I

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' m going to pass it on
to the prices. I' m going

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to pass it on to the prices
I give to my clients. I have

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that potential and I can do it. Then they' re gonna do it.

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But there are others who don'
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to see what it is now.
Yes, that the impact from the point

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of view of the economy, both
in the worker' s economy and in

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the employer' s economy, as
well as in the local economy and the

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national economy, with this type of
initiative, this initiative is part of the

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budget, part of the budget of
which it is time. It is time

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for the working day to be reviewed, for example. There are some who

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say that is not that she is
so old, the law that is not

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reviewed and it is work, since
to rest hole does not go there either.

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If it' s not a birthday, if it' s not a

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party, they' re like salary
increases coming from the worker and boss mind

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my salary because they' re already
a birthday at the company. No,

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Mr Digan, when you come here
and tell me you' ve already increased

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productivity and raised wages. We'
re not going to increase him here because

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he' s turning. Already that
one must also be removed from it and

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that is another of the effects,
another of the recommendations that we are making

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to the customers hears, since it
no longer increases salary. That is,

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if, on the one hand,
you are going to pay the government high

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taxes, precisely for all these labor
reforms, because the government takes a big

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cut. It' s a bird, it' s a shot that kills

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two birds, as the saying goes. In fact, the government is collecting

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without inventing taxes, but it really
looks good to the workers and at the

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same time is giving large taxes,
both to infon and navit as well as

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the local coffers of state taxes and
therefore especially supernominous. Then there we have

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also good, that is to say
that freezes the salaries hear because I increased

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them every year, because no longer
because that increase you gave them, because

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now it turns out that you will
have to correct those costs that you have

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to face because the aguinaldo is being
reformed. There are initiatives and they'

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ve all been thrown out for the
next year, because of the electoral issue.

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Right now, I' m on
my way, but that cost because

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you' re going to fix it
with those increments that reached the worker.

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So that' s another one of
the alternatives that we propose to our clients

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when they ask us, because that
advice, because if we see them burdened,

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they don' t think that'
s the case. He is seen

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and, on the other hand,
let' s forget about the ideology is

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that the boss exploits, because get
out of the company. There' s

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one way to help out that I
see a crybaby that I see in the

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networks is that my company is now. Good thing you' re here,

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because my boss has me here exploiting
my face and history and that Nekenna plantations

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were there, already for Yucatán,
in the early 20th century, where you

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couldn' t leave, you couldn' t leave the plantation. The soldiers

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were coming for you, they were
looking for you wherever you went, they

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were returning you back, as our
countrymen say here in America, they were

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returning you back. And so until
you died there because you ran away from

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the plantation. See it there.
It is a book, it is a

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denunciation that makes on genetx Turner in
the play to Mexico Barbaro. There are

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the conditions in which our workers lived, and there a worker, especially those

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in Yucatán, could not escape.
But that' s no longer the case.

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In fact, the law, both
the Constitution and the law, points

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out well. The worker has no
responsibility. If you leave the job,

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none or if you signed a contract, nothing happens to the worker, to

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the employer, yes, you have
to give the master three months because I

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finish his contract, because I don' t need it anymore, for whatever

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you want, but no longer.
So I don' t accept that they

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' re saying it' s exploding
my pattern. Then how he' s

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exploiting you and he' s chaining
you up, chained you there to work.

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There isn' t. If a
company exploits you, it treats you

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badly and you greet. You'
ll be changing Chamba by now. He

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' s got a case of being
in that company. So all these ideas

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have been collected and expressed around this
issue of shorter working hours. It is

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about time that companies had to look
after their workers. It' s always

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been veiled at the end of the
day, with its ups and downs.

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Of course, but always the reduction
of working hours says good is that we

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are going instead of working six days, they are going to elaborate five.

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It is not that what gives forty
hours eye boy end see comes look well,

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write it down, please, no
more for what you fit well.

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This is a constitutional reform of article
one hundred and twenty- three paragraphs of

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the Constitution of the United States of
Mexico. It' s a reform of

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days, not hours. Because it
does give forty hours, but the reformation

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is heard for every five days of
labor, the worker must rest two paid.

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Then it is in days I tell
you something that gives forty. I

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' m not telling you because there
are others. I think like three initiatives,

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like three in Congress to reduce the
daily working day from eight to seven

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hours. That' s another little
tap that I don' t think sentences

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like that. No, but imagine, imagine five days is eight hours,

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the maximum day is forty hours.
That' s what it gives, but

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there are three initiatives. That'
s where, where also the maximum day

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is intended to be reduced to that. We' re not doing it every

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day for the maximum of eight hours. There are three initiatives. You have

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to be very careful. It'
s the five- day one right now.

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I do not know what it gives
forty, but it does not talk

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about the reduction of forty- eight, but the truth is the forty-

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eight hour working days. Forty-
eight hours are currently being prepared. Other

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justifications are that in Germany, it' s that in the Republic of Chile,

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it' s that in Spain,
it' s that in Europe,

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it' s that in the United
States you already work forty hours and then,

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then no, then we love the
party. No, and why don

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' t we, because that'
s the point. There' s the

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answer. Why don' t we
rest, because we don' t produce

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the same. There is no comparison
point with Germany, for example, that

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they work thirty- seven hours,
not thirty- five hours in Germany,

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but they are much more productive than
the Mexican worker. Thirty- five hours,

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thirty- four three and more productive. In Spain it is thirty-

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eight five for the two thousand twenty- four, in Chile thirty- seven

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hours, because it has gradually been
reduced and because we do not compare but

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the global productivity index in the countries, because no, Mexico is very low,

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very far from the first places.
So here the point is that that

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is precisely where I take the side
around the alternative I give to the customer,

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which I tell you one can choose
the most productive. One picks the

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most productive, because you' re
gonna fire four. That' s what

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I recommend. You make the decision
I recommend you and that' s why

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I' m already charging you on
the one hand, but on the other,

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don' t rush. Don'
t go to the room for 12

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o' clock saying you need to
hire an employee. He doesn' t

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change the chip anymore, even if
he' s a small businessman, he

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' s already changing the CHIP at
once and I' m getting a worker.

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That' s the first one I' ve hired. I' ve

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already hired him, because to see
how you get out is no longer so

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expensive the payroll that you can'
t anymore I advise you. Don'

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t hire anyone anymore, don'
t plan your workers' needs anymore.

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And at least for the next month, if not for the year, and

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check which are who they are,
if they have tables, as it is

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said colloquially, and also, still
with the contract to test, with the

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clause, you can test them that
here we advise you, for already at

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least. You have protection there.
Saying no, because Leake plainly did not

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serve. It looked good, it
brought attitude, but no man, no,

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no, no, no, in
the fifteen days it thundered well,

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for there is the little contract.
There' s a proof clause. Keep

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the period to the test nothing more
than the month and already wright good-

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bye because it is so expensive the
ninth that you can no longer hire anyone

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and do not walk in your hurry, because if you hire with you I

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hope that I already urge three of
them then tell you after, nothing more,

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then sail with the squeak, because
now there is, that is another

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one of the actions that the entrepreneur
has to take. He won' t

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hire any workers anymore. You have
to be very careful there too. It

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' s going to have an impact
on the working class, because you'

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re already going to have to improve
your knowledge, your skills, have graduates,

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well. The good thing is that
there are so many courses and even

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free to have no diplomas in such
a way that you show up with all

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those letters to apply for work and
there you stay, at least to stay

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today, from there to stay.
It is another thing that has attitude,

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that is not lacking, that is
punctual and that enters the chamba and that

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is productive. Because I' ve
always said, because a worker is never

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fired to a bad worker. The
workers always say goodbye to the bad.

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It' s weird. It'
s weird there when you least experience it.

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It is rare there the pattern really
does, it runs to a good

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worker usually, because it is a
problem or a lack of attitude, among

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other things. Returning to the point
then of working time, these repercussions have

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to be taken by the employer.
First, you get the wages, which

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means you' re finished, second, or you get a punctual attendance award.

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Sir, if you take it off, you' re not going to

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get angry anymore, because you'
re not obliged to give that. We

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have to verify more the plan of
benefits and that if you put it there

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that was annual and that it is
going to be reviewed annually take it off,

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not badly inform them in writing and
let us go I will not give

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you first for punctuality assistance and with
that you will compensate those costs. They

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will be given to the government in
the tax on so- called state,

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with a second on tax that comes
to punish you the fact that you pay

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and give minds employment, the income
tax, the employers' quotas afore,

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the employers' quotas to lims,
because each year they are increasing among others.

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So here we have this problem that
affects precisely the actions. There'

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s a little light there. That' s good. Well, forty-

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eight hours is the current one.
Six days to see I don' t

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know if we can change. That
way, I' ll see, or

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I can change it. I can' t support us in changing the slide.

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But, well, that' s
one of those I didn' t

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like. That' s better.
So, that' s one of the

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repercussions and we say it as advisors, because you can talk a lot.

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It' s not that five days
good, but why ah it' s

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that it' s already for justice, ah it' s not that now

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I' m going to be more
productive. They say ah gee, pray

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to him. That' s another
justification some give, even that we can

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read them in so many publications,
is that if you work, if it

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' s a simplistic logic, it' s not that if you work less

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days, you' re going to
be more restful, go for it,

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you' re going to spend more
time with the family, you' re

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going to be happier and when you' re happier, you' re going

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to be more productive. That'
s why I' m telling you that

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this has to be helped by psychologists, sociologists, too. This is a

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job issue of itself, but it
has other edges that can help us economists

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also face to face and by little, because yes, because if so and

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they are going to be, they
will be both productive, as well as

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speaking thus towards a percentage. No, well, I think they' re

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going to increase productivity by ten percent
a day, no, because it'

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s fine. So what I say
is five that is four, that works

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in four, no, because if
the less they work the more productive.

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No, we' re going to
cut him off. No, and where

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they got that, where the studies
are, are the research that gives rise

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to that, and besides, in
what turns, in what kind of activities,

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in what kind of companies it takes. That' s a mathematical formula

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that' s going to be given
in all, in automatic, in all

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workplaces. No matter what activity they
are engaged in, if they are small

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and large and are medium- sized
and are of construction, if they are

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of service, if they are of
passenger cars, if they are doctors.

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He' s half- hearted.
I don' t see it. Like

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this. The truth is, of
course, that companies have to support the

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productive sector more by means of training. Of course, of course, because

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it even suits the company. But
that more restful is going to be more

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productive I don' t think so. What I do see I can imagine,

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I am not the expert is that
they are going to be happier,

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more restful, that is, that
they are from six days to five,

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yes, but from there to the
immediate effect, that is, they are

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more productive. I don' t
think so. I don' t think

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so. However, this reduction in
working hours, as these were the justifications

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it has. Not that the law
hasn' t changed in years. No,

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sir, if it' s not
party, it' s not party,

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I mean, we' re not
partying. Unfortunately, our country is

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so bad at the economy. We
have not come out in forty years of

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being a Third World country. It' s called romantically in development that'

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s another one we have. The
curious Mexicans love to tell things by another

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name, when so simple to say
we are third- worlders. We are

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in the process of developing, since
what days, about thirty years ago I

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have done that since Carlos Salinas de
Gortari arrived. There are at the end

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of the 1980s in development that,
by the way, managed to get on

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the free trade treaty train at least
when it got together with two powerful partners,

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Canada and the United States. But
this one, because I don'

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t see that. So here we
have is that it hasn' t changed

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in years, because because it has
to change you tell me why if it

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' s going to change? I
insist if there' s going to be

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an immediate counterpart, which is that
you' re going to get me the

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same one, at least the same
chamba in those five days. So,

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go ahead I don' t see
any problem, because I need to get

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my production out, because my customers
abandon me the first time they don'

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t comply with them. The trade
doesn' t forgive the customers so they

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don' t expect you and the
competition is around the corner. But if

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you in five days are going to
get me at least the same production of

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six, go ahead. But if
not, it' s not that I

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' m going to rest for rest, no, because it hasn' t

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changed in years, because then we' re going to lose customers. I

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' m going to close down the
company at the end, because I,

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the client, am not going to
pass it on. That doesn' t

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look. It' s just,
like under production, because already my workers,

415
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:44.639
by law they' re resting one
more day and excuse me the client

416
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:46.360
I' m going to deliver you
the order you made in fifteen days.

417
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:52.360
He' s not gonna wait for
a client on that pretext. And so

418
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:58.039
in the chain, the consumer equals
the customer, the final consumer, because

419
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.639
he wants to see a product.
They don' t have it at the

420
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.519
standf because it' s going to
go to another, to buy it,

421
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.639
to another or a little worse,
to care. Look at the foreign companies

422
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:14.679
going to win, because I want
my product, because there is not because

423
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:20.920
production is not coming out, because
now there is no productivity and work less

424
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:24.039
five days a day less there is
in the stock the products that my supplier,

425
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.320
who always bought, because I need
it already and here I have another

426
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:35.760
two or three even imported, then
there we will have, We will have

427
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:37.519
a problem is also that in other
pasaises you already apply. For I do

428
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:45.360
not care that in other countries snow
falls or stops falling, because in other

429
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.960
countries it already applies, for it
does. When we have the productivity of

430
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:53.519
other countries, such as Germany,
we go thirty- seven hours, as

431
00:35:53.559 --> 00:36:01.800
they say they work in France,
Luxembourg, Spain, Chile, Argentina,

432
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:13.280
of course. The point here is
that working time is already time. They

433
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:17.760
say it' s not time out
there. All the issues involved should be

434
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:24.480
aired. It' s not exactly
time. It is not yet time that

435
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:28.719
even the President himself, today or
yesterday, says no, that always not

436
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:35.400
that he leaves for the next legislative
period having the majority in Congress and that

437
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:44.280
it can be approved now to then
go to the seventeen legislatures, because it

438
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:49.920
is a constitutional reform, it has
to be approved in Congress and, at

439
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:55.559
least, in seventeen entities, legislatures
of the federative entities. It is a

440
00:36:55.639 --> 00:37:00.920
constitutional reform, it is a formula
and that the Constitution itself points out precisely

441
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:07.719
so that we will not be appearing
the panties of the famous movie that comes

442
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:14.159
and changes and the Constitution as they
please not for that reason the formula of

443
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:20.440
Congress and, moreover, the seventeen
legislatures to change a comma of the Constitution,

444
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:22.639
for it would be necessary to see
if it is now so. I

445
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:27.519
insist that the legislators themselves froze it
for the time being and the President himself

446
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:31.800
ends up saying that if he trained
that better for now he would not have

447
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:37.599
been left in Congress at least to
move later to the legislatures, which goes

448
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:44.239
to the next, to the next
legislative cycle. So, no, I

449
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:49.519
mean, you heard it very well, you heard it well, but you

450
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:53.280
are already starting to pause, because
there are repercussions, because if it were

451
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:59.320
something positive, it would have already
been approved. But it has its dimensions

452
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:02.199
and its effects all in the immediate. And I insist as an advisor.

453
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:08.199
Or you know what. First you
freeze his salary. But already in the

454
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:13.039
face of so much onslaught that there
is through these labor reforms. Freeze that

455
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:19.800
I recommend that you don' t
squeal at me. You already freeze wages

456
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:24.800
time to be, because very low, because you are increasing the cost of

457
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:30.719
payroll punctuality bonus to take them off
what other benefits you are not required by

458
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:36.280
law and you already start there to
analyze case by case. Of course,

459
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:42.440
the situation especially ok well, the
other slide, right now, there are

460
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.480
some questions there in the chat at
the end we will gladly answer it.

461
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:52.039
The businessman. There is another issue
also that we are forgetting, the artist

462
00:38:52.840 --> 00:39:00.840
entrepreneur. There' s the businessman. It is not a big entrepreneur or

463
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:07.239
in economic question, because in magnitude
it is not here, in Mexico,

464
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:12.639
ninety- eight percent, ninety-
eight percent is micro and small entrepreneur.

465
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.559
That is also the problem, because
we are not insisting, we are in

466
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:22.719
a third world country. It is
not good in the course of development,

467
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:28.760
because then you see the feelings and
the sensitivity. Well, that' s

468
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:31.760
okay, well, on the way
to development, but the reality is that.

469
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:37.480
Ninety- eight percent are micro and
small entrepreneurs not, no, no,

470
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:39.320
very chambeurs. It' s not
taken away from them. Those are

471
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:45.480
entrepreneurs. We support them as much
as possible and they will bear the maximum

472
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.280
burden at best. Big companies do
it. But, because they don'

473
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:53.000
t have a problem because they transfer
those costs to their users, for example,

474
00:39:53.280 --> 00:40:00.559
the banks that are going to be
suffering the million dollar fines because they

475
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:05.639
have been quietly paid for money laundering
by two billion dollars without where they pay

476
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:10.159
for how they charge it to users, because they have the market and they

477
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:17.519
have the economic potential to do so. But the micro and small not then

478
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.519
between that closes, between that the
informality goes today, between that lay off

479
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:28.000
staff to stay with the ideal,
because there we will be there doing all

480
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:35.199
those balances when we advise each client. In particular, each client is a

481
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:39.280
special situation and, of course,
that this reform can impact on the entrepreneur

482
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:45.119
' s finances, because that is
another one also hears is that I my

483
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:52.400
production program, I my work programme, I require that six days be necessarily

484
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:57.719
drawn up one shift. Sometimes even
the three of us. There are no

485
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:02.360
companies, up to three there'
s a company where, if you expect

486
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.320
it' s working at twenty-
four hours. Three shifts every six days,

487
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:08.320
Sometimes until Sundays he pays all that, he does pay them all,

488
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:22.159
but because he has commitments to companies, even foreign companies, a media company,

489
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:30.039
very organized, goes very well,
he even has a foreign client.

490
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:35.719
We' re not going to say, because it' s not that it

491
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.760
says, it' s that I
can' t stop production, that is,

492
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:40.519
this five- day thing. I' m gonna have my employees there

493
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.880
He doesn' t matter that he
already has to pay triple. They'

494
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:51.800
re gonna keep working on Saturday.
The worker knows what' s going to

495
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.880
happen, that it' s going
to be happy Hey, boss, do

496
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:59.760
me a favor. I work Saturday. Also pray to him because he'

497
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.480
s going to get ri on Saturday
and the boss is going to say I

498
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.039
don' t have another one.
I have to do it on Saturday because

499
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:10.719
I' d be late in production. He' s gonna pay them triple

500
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:13.800
on Saturday. The worker, on
that side, is going to be happy

501
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:15.840
because he' s going to bring
you more money. But the essence of

502
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:22.079
this reform will be lost, because
the idea was that you should rest my

503
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:29.719
boy. Now it makes you even
more attractive to be there to see me

504
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:31.920
turning around, to see if I
authorize you to come on the sixth day,

505
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:35.960
because not that you wanted to rest, yes, boss, but I

506
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:37.840
already know that I pay triple.
He doesn' t need me on Saturday.

507
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:40.400
Segurito, Patrón, Segurito, Segurito, because I do want to work

508
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:45.079
on Saturday, Patrón, and there
we will have them. That' s

509
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:49.480
right, I see it, uh, and the patma say,' cause

510
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.760
it' s not that I don' t have another one and I can

511
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:59.239
' t move my production. I
don' t have this way maybe in

512
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.800
the long run. Yes, where
I extend, have more machinery and equipment,

513
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:10.360
hire more staff and then go to
production within five days. But while

514
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:19.320
I can' t do that because
too, because there' s a budget

515
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:23.239
that this planning is no more like
that, no more I' m going

516
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:29.400
to extend and rent the next place
and put in more machinery and more workers

517
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:30.880
and everyone in five days and I' m already getting the same level of

518
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:34.199
production. It' s not like
that. There are machines like the ones

519
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:36.960
I tell you, they are machines
that are worth more than 200 good,

520
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:45.880
not to be told, but there
is enough money imported for the type of

521
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:52.840
products that this particular makes, for
example. Then we have one other problem

522
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:58.119
that in this case is going to
say good. I don' t care

523
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.000
if they work on Saturdays. Your
sixth day I' m going to pay

524
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:05.239
you, that there' s no
problem because I can' t stop and

525
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:09.599
then the worker will accept it.
Of course, it' s not that

526
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:13.800
he accepts it, it' s
not that it' s imposed on him,

527
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:13.960
because by law he' s going
to have to accept it. The

528
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.599
seventh day. Yes, you can
refuse to elaborate it by the worker.

529
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:22.960
The one who cannot refuse to work
is the holiday break. That one I

530
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:27.599
can force and I still have to
pay triple, but I can force it.

531
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:30.280
The one I can' t force
is the seventh day of weekly rest.

532
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:36.119
Then, well, that would be
solved, because surely he was working

533
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.239
to say no, because more money. I do keep chambing him on the

534
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:42.960
sixth day. I mean, I' m not sure he' s a

535
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:44.639
boss, because he knows he'
s gonna get a big prize. Then

536
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:46.960
you have to be very careful.
It' s going to have an impact

537
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:51.800
on the finances and it' s
going to have an impact on the things

538
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:59.400
that your will necessarily impact on the
prices and here I see quick in the

539
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:00.920
chat they' re going to look
for another job. That' s the

540
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:06.840
danger. But of the four of
the four days, they already left five

541
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:14.440
that were four in automatic and would
be working in another chamba, in another

542
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:22.480
job. It' s most likely
four days here, three days in another

543
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:28.440
chamber, because you have to know
what kind of companies, what turns we

544
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:32.920
have, that is to say we' re killing a construction company, two

545
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:36.800
builders that that kind of work,
a man gets into it and all the

546
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:42.760
overtime he wants. They happy and
Sunday there are then with this they do

547
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:46.119
not stop. They tell them that
three days off, whatever, they go

548
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:50.239
to the other company right away and
then they go back to yours without any

549
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:55.639
problem. We need to look at
these issues. There' s nothing else

550
00:45:55.639 --> 00:46:00.039
there. I' m going to
shrink, because we should see ventilate.

551
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:10.840
That ok next slide, please and
they' re supporting us with moving the

552
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:14.480
entrepreneur. It' s from the
perspective of the company I' ve already

553
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:20.719
told you. I do not hear
what we do, what counsel accountant advises

554
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:24.960
me, because I am a lawyer
and filic accountant and we manage precisely the

555
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:32.480
finances, taxes of taxpayers and customers. And it does look a little difficult.

556
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:40.239
Or next slide, because of the
five hundred that I have already put

557
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:49.880
I think that it is a small
one to conclusions, because yes, this

558
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:53.480
question of the reduction of the working
time does have to be gradual, if

559
00:46:53.559 --> 00:47:01.320
it is to be given, if
it is to be given, it must

560
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:07.639
be gradual and, moreover, it
must raise productivity. Let' s see,

561
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:13.480
I insist if you in five days
are going to answer me with greater

562
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:15.119
productivity taking out at least the same
production, because there is no problem.

563
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:22.239
I don' t see any problem. That' s what we' d

564
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:23.199
have to see, we' d
have to see that situation the same way.

565
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:30.679
Must be reciprocal, right. I
want to rest and he says,

566
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:32.039
but I also want you to pay
me, well, yes, yes,

567
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:37.039
I pay you, but I insist
on what you' re going to give

568
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.840
in return, no, because I' m a worker and I want you

569
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:45.639
to pay me, because it'
s just to see when you set up

570
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:51.400
your company, put on your changarro, to see put on a little chandarito

571
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:55.800
that you want and hire a worker
and listen to his demands to see if

572
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:55.800
it doesn' t change your perspective, because it' s not that simple.

573
00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:01.480
Just like that. This does not
add to the problematic situation that persists

574
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:07.760
in the working relationship that so many
cases have experienced. I think the day

575
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.639
I insist on what was left that
is not approved this year. It will

576
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.800
go until the next cycle that begins
the legislative that begins in February ends in

577
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:20.239
April. There it is, it' s going to be tried. It

578
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.360
would have to do with what it
looks like. If it' s going

579
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:28.039
to be gradual. I' d
be the idea that if it' s

580
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:32.000
going to prove to be sharp,
not anymore, because this is something I

581
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:36.719
' ve collected. It should not
be gradual, of course, but to

582
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:42.960
see if a measure is to be
taken, because once and for all it

583
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:46.719
should be gradual as soon as the
other year is approved and the twenty-

584
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:52.800
five for companies to prepare themselves.
But you already know that two thousand twenty

585
00:48:52.880 --> 00:49:00.199
- five, already forty hours let
us take already and have a period of

586
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:07.440
grace to the entrepreneurs, for now
to continue planning, to go, hiring

587
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:13.719
more machinery, etc, training the
current staff finally, because they require a

588
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:17.639
staff to take out the same production
at least already by that year and we

589
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:22.079
think I am thinking aloud that they
will be approved in two thousand twenty-

590
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.239
four with effect from January two thousand
twenty- five. Then you already give

591
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:30.840
the entrepreneur a time of grace to
prepare himself, so that he can prepare

592
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:36.639
himself and then have his own staff, even get rid of the staff and

593
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:39.480
productive or even the staff, which
is unproductive, but you invite him to

594
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:44.960
be productive. And say hey,
I' m gonna train you, I

595
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:46.960
' m gonna pay you this.
I' ll pay you that to see

596
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:52.000
if you stay here at the company, because when you work five days at

597
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:58.320
six, I want you to get
the same productivity. And that' s

598
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:00.719
how it' s gonna be.
It is going to be a style there

599
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.480
for the entrepreneurs and they are advised, at least with a server, among

600
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:12.000
other colleagues that we have talked about
in the field of work, that there

601
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:19.199
is no other if the entrepreneur does
not need, because there is no other

602
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:22.679
than to tell him those pragmatic solutions
and above all, the warning And I

603
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:30.400
that I do them, do not
go in their haste, already order,

604
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:35.920
already do everything in time, not
to the boat soon nor to the room

605
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:37.000
for the twelve syste will hire people. Now, if you do a procedure

606
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:42.719
or hire, pay someone to evaluate
that one. It doesn' t matter

607
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:46.079
what it costs, but send the
best staff to evaluate it. There are

608
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:54.360
offices specialized in that to evaluate the
skills of knowledge and that even give him

609
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:58.960
popcorn. No, or this one
is good for what you want. And

610
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:04.320
yet everything is still stuck. We
hold it with the contract, with a

611
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:08.559
clause that has a period of time
to itself in case the flys as we

612
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:13.559
say here in the North, then
yes, yes, yes, I say

613
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:15.039
that it will be tested in the
other year and why, because of the

614
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:22.639
context, also by the electoral context. Remember there that power is careful.

615
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:28.840
Power is tremendous and no one wants
to let go of power once he has

616
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:34.039
it. And then this is a
great offer. I say, I misconceived

617
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:37.480
already in the political sphere and of
all politicians and boys, of all,

618
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:44.360
of all are equal. All politicians, all are parasites who live on account,

619
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:50.840
at our expense. All politicians around
the world are parasites, leeches living

620
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:57.280
at our expense. But there is
no other. We don' t all

621
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.400
fit in Congress, in the House
of Senators, we have representatives, there

622
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:06.239
is no other. That' s
the good system here. The point is

623
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:12.800
that they are leaving it for the
other year, to look good because of

624
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.960
the proximity of the elections, that
is, it was not approved in this

625
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.719
one but it is approved in April. And, to put it this was

626
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:23.440
a success for us in this Government. So, then, I' ve

627
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:29.320
been good, in the elections it
wasn' t our gain. I think

628
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.039
that' s where she' s
going and that' s why they stopped

629
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:36.320
her. Now something that is going
to be given in what terms, I

630
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:38.119
insist, we still do not know. I don' t think I'

631
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:42.239
ll be in right away. I
would like it to be approved, but

632
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:50.400
let it be gradual forgiveness, rather
than gradual, to enter a vacatio legis

633
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:54.239
until January 1st of the two thousand
and twenty- five. And so there

634
00:52:54.440 --> 00:53:02.000
is no excuse for entrepreneurs to prepare
themselves for such effects. All right,

635
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:07.159
I' m done with this.
My talk. It' s a brief

636
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:10.360
talk. Here in December, already
the Christmas Arbolito, since what else we

637
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:15.960
can talk about so many things,
but I would like to, anyway,

638
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:21.000
review the questions. Let me see
you open the chat here to answer the

639
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.119
questions you asked to see good afternoon
the rose Coahuila. Let me see,

640
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:30.360
let me see so far the employment
subsidy no longer applies because it exceeds the

641
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.519
limit. I' m going to
see ah that has to do with raising

642
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:37.000
to the minimum wage. That'
s the name. If you are spending

643
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.400
the money, how nice to spend
the money at g not the increase of

644
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:46.039
the minimum wage. Yes, that
is another very interesting topic, very interesting

645
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:52.199
because there is impact on the equal
cost of products. That is another issue

646
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:58.719
that should be looked at very well
in equal social security contributions. And here

647
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:06.159
we have to verify what that effect
is, what all the effects are and

648
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:07.320
are going to be nice gebrarto,
in his opinion, the reduction of the

649
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:10.000
day will be testing twenty two thousand. It' s going to be approved

650
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:15.519
in two thousand twenty- four.
I' ve already consulted with Monsivist.

651
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:24.079
I am not telling you that for
the reasons I gave you a short time

652
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:27.199
ago because of the electoral question.
It' s going to be tested on

653
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:30.480
the next one. How it'
s gonna look. I still don'

654
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:31.800
t know. I feel like it' s going to be, it'

655
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:34.760
s going to apply up to two
thousand twenty- five. Let' s

656
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.440
hope so. Let' s hope
so. Now, I insist on what

657
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:43.800
the counterpart is. It' s
nothing more, because that' s where

658
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:47.199
the aguinaldo' s from. Boy
don' t increase to thirty days and

659
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:52.599
with them the employer' s worker
photos. How good you are to be

660
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:59.960
my dear Doctor Octavio. What'
s your opinion, he says sorry.

661
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.800
What is the opinion of the 20
percent increase, as it is a stretch

662
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:08.440
and slack. He doesn' t
always command octavius. No. I can

663
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:13.119
' t hear you I can'
t hear you I can' t hear

664
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:15.800
you. It is also not a
very interesting subject. To begin with,

665
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:20.960
the minimum wage of three hundred how
much remained here on the border three hundred

666
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:24.199
seventy- five pesos, numbers closed
for two thousand twenty- four. It

667
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:30.199
doesn' t reach three hundred seventy- five pesos. At the border,

668
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:37.800
that city is not enough, at
least Tijuana is very expensive, so it

669
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.119
does not reach three hundred seventy-
five pesos. It' s my edition.

670
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:49.880
The truth is of old, because
I don' t know a salary

671
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:52.679
that really, maybe it' s
a minimum index to cover. But in

672
00:55:52.760 --> 00:56:01.559
ra, the truth I insist is
that it' s a so- called

673
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:10.599
minimum wage, because it doesn'
t really cover the need is that it

674
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:15.000
says the law that yes I insist
remember that we love to cheat, we

675
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:17.760
love it. I do not know
why, then it is that the minimum

676
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:22.360
wage reaches for the subsistence of the
worker and his family to dress food.

677
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.440
Everything does not reach three hundred seventy- five pesos. That' s not

678
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:30.000
true. If it really is an
increase to the minimum wage, it should

679
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:36.719
be at least double that much.
The problem is the pernicious effect that there

680
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:43.119
would be on employment as well as
on costs as on prices, as no

681
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:50.960
more so increase does not say greetings. I was already here. I'

682
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:52.719
m reading the questions. So,
if so the protocol yes, yes,

683
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:55.880
ah, well, or I start
looking for a second job until one or

684
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:00.840
third of the weekend. The weekend
is likely to be so and above all

685
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:05.239
some, for example, the construction
sector. So, that and advisor,

686
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:09.159
a construction company and man. That
doesn' t waste anything, eh nothing.

687
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:14.719
Every day he punishes my client for
two or three days and you know

688
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:17.519
them that they went to the next
one. There, to the next construction.

689
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:21.760
Then, then to work those two
days that are punished. On this

690
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:28.920
side I raise the minimum wage thirty
aguinaldo what they say, this what I

691
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:36.079
told you the paternity leave do you
and Favou, among others. It'

692
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:38.440
s more. We' re already
making sure I have to pay him because

693
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:42.440
his head hurts. Just as we
go, hey, Skipper, I'

694
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:44.599
ll give my head. The law
says I have a day' s work

695
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:46.519
left because I have a headache and
I have to pay for it, because

696
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:52.599
there you go. We cannot be
so cynical in the case of the legislator

697
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:55.800
and so loose in this the truth, that is, it is not that

698
00:57:55.880 --> 00:58:02.519
way, because I insist, the
economy rules wherever it is not and this

699
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:04.679
has an economic effect. They'
re not gonna put up with my pynes.

700
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.599
That' s right. Thank you, excellent. What a teacher and

701
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:13.000
thank you. Thank you. While
we are looking at these questions and they

702
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:17.920
are, I can open the discussion. Right now, the panelists. Someone

703
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:24.280
was there, or you wanted to
comment, notice that yes, if you

704
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:32.960
can and if I may, Gilberto
and say hello to my sensei, Dr

705
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.079
Carvajal, you saw Carbadillo, Hector
and especially Enrique. That' s where

706
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:42.840
you greet everyone. Notice that I
differ a little from what you were talking

707
00:58:42.920 --> 00:58:45.760
about and that' s part of
what I' m interested in discussing.

708
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:52.920
First, because a reform of the
reduction of working hours, if we review

709
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:58.280
the data of the INEGI. As
for unemployment in Mexico, we are at

710
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:00.760
a stage in which there is no
unemployment, that is, unemployment is very

711
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:06.360
small and there is a reduction in
working hours in the way in which the

712
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:10.440
reform designed by Congresswoman Terrazas, who
is from Ciudad Juárez, who collapsed several

713
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:17.159
maquiladoras in Matamoros, one of them
fox Con, and who also collapsed in

714
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:22.719
Ciudad Juárez some of the companies where
her vision is the maquiladora and manufacturing industry

715
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:27.920
of export services, where she is
trying to bring that reform, because it

716
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:32.079
is limited to that segment or to
that sector, because if you go to

717
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:37.760
the one that is ninety- eight
percent of the economy, which is the

718
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:45.679
trade, service and tourism sector.
That sector or, that good segment is

719
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:49.000
sixty- three percent and sixty-
three percent of the Pip ninety- eight

720
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.679
percent of that sixty- three are
micro- small and medium- sized enterprises.

721
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:59.559
In the case of micro, small
and medium- sized enterprises, the

722
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:05.880
majority are family In this respect,
that segment of the trade is the one

723
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:10.320
that has a laundry, a hardware
store, a dry cleaner, a tortilería,

724
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:15.000
a law firm or services such as
that of Héctor Castro, a school

725
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:20.559
like the one that has the carballido
view, that is that segment. That

726
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:28.880
one is very representative. Obviously,
they are not the big entrepreneurs who have

727
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:32.880
one hundred or two hundred or three
hundred or five hundred thousand jobs, such

728
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:36.920
as social insurance, which is the
main employer in Mexico, is the largest

729
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.480
employer in Mexico. So that segment, which is a family business, would

730
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:46.039
have a direct impact because, indeed, that kind of business and here asks

731
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:51.559
the carballido view if they can not
open their school. Or ask someone who

732
01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:55.440
has a hardware if they can not
open on Saturday, because the reform reduction

733
01:00:55.480 --> 01:01:02.360
was approved and there is tobacco because
we are going to be more productive.

734
01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:07.599
There are sectors of the economy that
cannot be more productive with a reduction of

735
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:12.440
the day, because they have to
open the shops And these shops, being

736
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:15.360
open, that is, if they
close, they do not become more productive.

737
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:19.519
These are shops that provide a service
to the public. Another sector that

738
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:24.559
has a major problem is tourism,
the tourism sector. There is a great

739
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:31.920
situation on the issue of generation of
people who participate in that segment working in

740
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:37.119
that tourism sector, which obviously are
not at that disposal of the reduction of

741
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:40.679
labor cones. Now, what I
have seen is that we always compare it

742
01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:47.079
with the data given by the ITU
International Labour Organization, and they tell us

743
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:52.440
about several countries that have implemented this
day, this reduction of work schedule,

744
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:55.360
that those countries are not of First
World, but they also compare us with

745
01:01:55.480 --> 01:02:00.719
those of the First World, where
they say well, in such a country

746
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:02.920
there is a reduced day, that
is, there is also all that comparative.

747
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:09.960
The implementation of such reforms has always
been gradual. Now what happens hill

748
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:14.400
or what I' m talking about
here for everyone and it' s an

749
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.039
opinion, it' s a personal
opinion. It is that the reform proposal

750
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:21.920
in the process would have to be
evaluated, because the vision we have is

751
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:24.760
as if we were all maquila.
And in Mexico, because the maquila are

752
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:31.079
two thousand companies that do have an
important economic movement, but it is not

753
01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:35.119
really the totality of the companies that
exist in Mexico, at least those that

754
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:38.400
I ubic that are maquiladoras and that
are certified, that are even less.

755
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:44.840
Then it gives me the impression that
we do have to make a more conscious

756
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:51.920
assessment, both because we may not
have enough staff to be able to open

757
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:58.280
those days one and two, also
because it will have a direct impact on

758
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:00.599
that segment, which is the one
that does move the economy. Perhaps it

759
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:05.639
is not the big tax payers,
but in proportion to the gross domestic product

760
01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.480
it is the ones that move the
country. All the little ones are less

761
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:12.559
than the big ones. If we
are the ones that generate economy. I

762
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:15.559
mean, there' d be a
direct impact by now. This considering the

763
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:20.360
reform of dignified vacations, which,
of course, already generates a benefit to

764
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:24.119
our collaborators, but that also implies
us to have more investment, because the

765
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:30.400
client wants to be cared for and
not the client does not expect to return

766
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:34.119
from vacation. The consultant, the
consultant who opens the chamba, the client

767
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:39.280
wants to be taken care of.
So now additional To that I would also

768
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:44.079
say agile from a point of view
this, from my point of view,

769
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:52.559
that this reform has to come along
with other ingredients. What ingredients. Fifty

770
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:59.960
percent if out of every hundred pesos
you pay an employee, fifty pesos more

771
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:06.880
are taxes and sr was taxes we
paid the employee and the employer, i

772
01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:11.159
e, don' t think employees
don' t pay taxes. You gentlemen,

773
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:14.920
you think you earn ten zero pesos
because that' s what you'

774
01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:17.119
re deposited with. That' s
not true. You earn fourteen zero pesos

775
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:21.039
or fifteen thousand pesos, but the
rest is what social insurance, INFORNAVIB,

776
01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:29.719
income tax and other contributions are paid. So, if we really thought about

777
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:34.679
a reform where productivity would be reduced
and improved and reform that would generate more

778
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:40.719
formal employment, the first thing we
would have to think about is how the

779
01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:45.960
government, the state, makes its
budget more efficient and generates a reduction or

780
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:54.119
stimulus and a job prize. In
Mexico, employment is punished In Mexico,

781
01:04:54.599 --> 01:05:00.320
payroll if you know, is possible
up to fifty- three or fifty-

782
01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:06.719
four percent. Payroll is our main
working capital. It would have to be

783
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:12.880
a hundred percent. Deductibility is up. The subsidy tables have not been updated.

784
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:17.360
They' re not up- to- date. So, if you

785
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:21.000
see in the income law of the
Federation, because you see that there is

786
01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:25.400
going to be an increase in revenue, of course you will see it,

787
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:28.199
because now I am going to go
into the other issue, that is the

788
01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:31.440
reduction of the day, that I
agree that our collaborators and on TVs,

789
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:34.440
if it is not daniel that is, we take vacations, we try to

790
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:38.679
give time, that is, people
work on how officient people are happy.

791
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:43.639
There is not so much, we
don' t have so much rotation,

792
01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:46.599
but we do have to think in
a conscious way about how a reform is

793
01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:49.639
going to be implemented that is based
on an analysis, of a study,

794
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:54.159
of an international organization of work that
has a different purpose. So it is

795
01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:57.800
productive or not productive to people.
And there' s a situation there,

796
01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:00.679
too. Yes, it is true
that the employee is going to look for

797
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:04.159
another chamba, that is, the
fact that he wants to justify himself as

798
01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:08.079
having more time for quality of life
to be with his family. Son,

799
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:12.079
there are no studies that say that
they are not looking for another chamba,

800
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.639
so what do you have to do, then, improve your income so that

801
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.760
you have a single chamba and have
time to be with your family. I

802
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:23.519
was involved in Konasami as part of
the representation of the business sector in the

803
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:27.519
twenty percent increase that has just been
given to participate within the meeting at midnight,

804
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.519
we were signing the agreement that was
made with the intention of continuing to

805
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:39.840
increase proportionally the income that the workers
have. And we saw it well that

806
01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:44.679
it was twenty percent could be more. But I also raised and continue to

807
01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:48.559
raise it in that forum, with
the Secretary and the members of the Committee

808
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:53.639
being present, which had to be
reviewed, because the increase may be more.

809
01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:59.760
This Enrique Gil and Doctor Carvajal,
if we give it fifty- five

810
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:03.639
percent in contributions, in taxes that
have to return us in services, because

811
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:09.079
those taxes and that we cover is
to give us services, then not good.

812
01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:15.880
If we are to make an effort
to make our collaborators have a better

813
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:18.039
income, then the effort has to
be two- way, not just on

814
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:24.880
the side of the worker and the
employer, but also of the collector.

815
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:28.000
And that' s where it has
to be reviewed that, for example,

816
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:30.840
the GIL payroll has been deductible to
100%, that, for example,

817
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:35.199
the quotas are reduced and you have
and you give formal work, because you

818
01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:41.000
pay a little less social insurance contribution, the infonavita to SATH because it will

819
01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:45.039
allow you to hire more staff or
transfer it to a direct benefit to your

820
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:49.840
worker. That, that' s
a reality. In fact, it is

821
01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:53.519
something that I am putting forward to
this day. Gilli, who would like

822
01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:57.639
everyone to help me because obviously,
because nobody gets to see, because I

823
01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:05.239
see that twenty mines earn twenty eight
thousand pesos. What happens is that the

824
01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:09.840
other eight don' t see them
because the other eight. Anyway, we

825
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:14.280
have to pay for them by the
worker and the employer. So what'

826
01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:17.039
s going to generate this. This
is going to give rise to two situations.

827
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:21.039
Informality in Mexico is more than fifty- seven percent plus numbers less.

828
01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:30.800
Informality is ambulantism and the grey market. Yeah, that informality doesn' t

829
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:35.520
contribute to public spending. It doesn' t contribute taxes, it doesn'

830
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:36.479
t generate tax returns, it doesn' t have an a. The best

831
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:41.000
has an RFC, but it doesn' t. He doesn' t have

832
01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:44.000
a tax address. He doesn'
t pay, he doesn' t make

833
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:45.439
his monthly statements, he doesn'
t make his annual statement. He doesn

834
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:49.439
' t pay social security, he
doesn' t pay infonavit, that is,

835
01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:51.640
he doesn' t generate. Yes, of course it generates quotas for

836
01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:57.600
municipal presidencies because they give them permits
and licenses to get on the street,

837
01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:05.199
but neither do they pay liability insurance, firefighters, police, operating notices,

838
01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:13.720
predial licenses don' t carry that
either. There is a symmetry between the

839
01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:21.159
formal established sector and the grey and
informal market sector. What happens when you

840
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:27.760
keep increasing in this way without reducing
something that is obvious to everyone, that

841
01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:30.039
is, to tell us that there
was no tax increase, because it is

842
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:34.800
also a fantasy, because at the
time of raising wages, there is an

843
01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:41.199
immediate increase in income tax. Or
it is not true that there is an

844
01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:46.119
increase because the base is modified.
So it seems to me that there are

845
01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:55.960
basically three fundamental aspects that need to
be reconsidered. The 100% deductibility of

846
01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:59.279
the payroll, which is our capital
and we cannot be told that we are

847
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:03.199
inventing it so much because there is
materiality, because the worker exists, because

848
01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:08.039
he provides the service. That I
don' t understand why it' s

849
01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:11.439
never been given 100 percent productivity to
the payroll, I mean, it'

850
01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:15.399
s incongruous and I don' t
see a lot of people saying that that

851
01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:20.239
also catches my attention from accountants.
That is how one two is the reduction

852
01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:26.640
and we did it, the planning, we say it clearly, we say

853
01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:29.359
it in quite a few forums.
The reduction and the prize that can be

854
01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:35.359
given to the one who generates the
formal job established, the one that does

855
01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:40.199
contribute the one, instead of seeing
how. I mean, because here'

856
01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:42.840
s a topic that we all have
to understand, too. People aren'

857
01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:45.640
t going to close, they'
re not going to stop selling. People

858
01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:49.720
are going to say you know what
I do to you and I' m

859
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:53.119
going to make you recycle and I' m going to pay you off and

860
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:53.119
I' m going to take it
all away from you is that it'

861
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:55.760
s the crime. That' s
violence. That' s why this will

862
01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:59.399
make the worker recycling the crime.
You have to be careful. I mean,

863
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:00.600
I' m not saying in agile
counseling. The one out there,

864
01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:04.479
who' s giving, one who' s doing an act of trade,

865
01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:11.520
is going to look for the agile
way to keep working. And many of

866
01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:14.960
them will end up going to ambulantism
or informality or paying, in cash,

867
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:17.520
because it is also a crime not
to pay taxes. And fifty- seven

868
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:21.640
percent of Mexicans who do business don' t pay for it. And it

869
01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:26.880
' s also a gil crime,
because it' s also a crime not

870
01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:28.399
to contribute to public spending. And
so I got involved here I don'

871
01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:30.960
t know if it' s a
forum where we' re going to ask

872
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:31.880
questions or it' s a forum
where we' re all going to participate.

873
01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:36.359
I' m already confused. No
forgiveness, it was merely a related

874
01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:39.600
opinion. I' m not sorry
I got together I think it was a

875
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:44.760
forum where several. There are several
colleagues that I suggested multidisciplinary and each of

876
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:50.119
those, from their perspective, will
give what is their opinion on precisely this

877
01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:56.760
issue that of the work meeting,
which is the work on the octavio side,

878
01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:02.760
that it does not pay fifty-
seven percent. There too, if

879
01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:08.560
I disagree with you, I'
ll tell you why they don' t

880
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:14.760
pay income tax. That' s
why I have always existed. I do

881
01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:18.960
not mess with economists, because they
are experts in economics, we read and

882
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:28.439
everything, but they are the expert
sociologists, psychologists in the case, in

883
01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:31.520
the case of taxes, because more
than thirty years in matter, in that

884
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:39.079
area. Well, they give that
authority to study and further study those issues.

885
01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:45.640
If there is one there there is
a mistake in making those demonstrations that

886
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:51.840
fifty- seven percent of the economy
does not pay taxes. What he doesn

887
01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:57.000
' t pay is that I don' t know if anyone' s going

888
01:12:57.359 --> 01:13:00.800
to put, I don' t
know sorry and I already got dizzy here.

889
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:04.720
In the end we normally open up
as the participation of the panelists,

890
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:10.840
because if they want to make a
comment for that to ok yes, yes,

891
01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:14.239
general wins the protocol because they make
me dizzy someone was going to expose

892
01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:15.359
there, but I don' t
know good. I was involved Hill and

893
01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:20.319
generally, in the end we ask
questions and answers that Dani and everyone who

894
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:24.960
participated, that we are accompanying you
here because there are more people who are

895
01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:30.039
seeing you and are broadcasting on social
networks live, we make comments, in

896
01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:33.319
my case, obviously, because it
is a comment that wanted to come to

897
01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:40.760
add the great presentation that you made
and thank you, of course, as

898
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:42.880
always the one that you are always
looking at and always are attentive to any

899
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:45.720
situation of these. I don'
t know if any of the panelists here

900
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:50.520
Hill wants to make a ritual comment, Doctor Maximo Carvajal, Héctor Toño,

901
01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:56.680
none, Enrique, none, because
Dani I believe none of the panelists wanted

902
01:13:56.680 --> 01:14:00.000
to be comment anymore. And thank
you very much indeed Phill for this Portugal,

903
01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:08.439
i e part, do not end
ah sorry forward that weird good,

904
01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:12.680
ok pay back nothing else to make
the precision, fifty- seven percent of

905
01:14:13.319 --> 01:14:17.399
the informality that, in fact,
that cup of the PEA does not pay

906
01:14:17.479 --> 01:14:21.840
income taxes. But if you pay
taxes when you go to consumption, for

907
01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:26.439
example, you pay the value added
tax. When you go and buy products,

908
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:30.479
items that cover the libano, if
you have cart, then YEBS pays.

909
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:36.439
And when he consumes gasoline, even
the one that doesn' t have

910
01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:41.399
a car, when in the fare
of the public transport, then he pays

911
01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.680
the JEBS, because there they are
giving it to him. If it doesn

912
01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:46.039
' t have to be demonized.
I am also not aware of the idea

913
01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:53.479
of informality, but to say quite
clearly that they do not pay taxes.

914
01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:56.680
Yeah, I' d like no
more to make that clarification. They do

915
01:14:56.760 --> 01:15:00.159
not pay income taxes because they are
not controlled, but they do pay the

916
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:04.680
rest, the rest, at least
of the feds, the consumption, they

917
01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:11.039
mostly, for example, there is
an 8 percent tax on the consumption of

918
01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:16.800
what we call junk food, for
example. That' s where they pay

919
01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:23.720
when they consume the coke, when
they consume the chips, when we consume

920
01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:24.880
not until I put in yes,
yes, yes, they pay. I

921
01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:29.079
say no more to make that precision, Don Octavio. On the other hand,

922
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:34.039
and you touched on a very interesting
point in labor matters. The new

923
01:15:34.239 --> 01:15:38.960
labor prosecutor, if I may say
well, is that the workers were disguised

924
01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:42.680
as recico and I didn' t
do it anymore. You have to be

925
01:15:42.680 --> 01:15:45.039
very careful there, because that one
I don' t recommend? I don

926
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:49.000
' t recommend it. It is
a crime, already the sat brings them

927
01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:54.359
into the eye and then it will
enter into a great, in a serious

928
01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:58.359
problem, a taxpayer of that nature. Now, yes, it' s

929
01:15:58.359 --> 01:16:01.840
all my participation. I swear,
I swear for nothing, and the truth

930
01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:08.399
is, we really appreciate your participation. I do not think we have said

931
01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:11.560
anything and I think it is important
to mention that here it is not a

932
01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:15.479
recommendation to be made reciprocated, but
that there are some comments that we have

933
01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:16.960
heard from the entrepreneurs with whom we
have discussed how you externalized it. At

934
01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:21.479
first, we are all concerned,
especially not to generate unemployment, so as

935
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:26.640
not to generate that, that is, we stop contributing, that there is

936
01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:29.319
more informality, that is. I
think a lot of people here were staring

937
01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:31.319
at him and you said it all
this time. Actually, as entrepreneurs,

938
01:16:31.399 --> 01:16:38.079
we do care about the entire work
team. But it is also right now,

939
01:16:38.439 --> 01:16:43.239
because we have to think about how
to survive business in that sense.

940
01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:47.079
And well, the truth is that
very interesting your talk here asked us how

941
01:16:47.079 --> 01:16:49.920
they can see again, obviously on
YouTube they can see it again that it

942
01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:54.560
is very interesting. And, well, here elisabe is also commenting on the

943
01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:57.960
companies. We have to put our
voices together and ask their cameras to be

944
01:16:58.039 --> 01:17:00.359
well represented and win and win,
that is to say, to seek a

945
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:04.680
winner and to change the mentality of
a working employer, because sometimes it is

946
01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:09.159
not only the workers who are wrong
in the working culture in the day to

947
01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:11.279
day, because I believe that in
this part. Yes, it is important,

948
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:14.399
as they say, to voice and, above all, to think that

949
01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:18.239
we have a better Mexico. Master
Gil thank you so much for all your

950
01:17:18.239 --> 01:17:21.640
contributions. I send you a strong
hug and good from the whole team of

951
01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:26.479
tels magas in Mexico that we arrive
to a tque we want to give this

952
01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:29.920
virtual recognition to Maestro Gilberto Martínez for
azun truck in the ritual talk. With

953
01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.560
the theme the reduction of the working
day, on December 6 of the two

954
01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:35.720
thousand twenty- three, signed by
the Rector Fede de la Torre, his

955
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:41.680
master servant. Thank you very much, as always, for being open to

956
01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:45.960
these discussions of topics such as the
reduction of Laura' s journey. Thanks

957
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:49.399
to you all a hug and merry
Christmas and you' re Christmas. Thank

958
01:17:49.439 --> 01:17:55.239
you China, or if I hug
everyone very fondly And well, next week

959
01:17:55.319 --> 01:18:00.880
we are already closing this year'
s barter in Gresamos on the 11th with

960
01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:04.960
the resolution of international business and political
conflicts by Master Armando Ortega, and on

961
01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:11.880
the 13th we are going to make
our annual and traditional Christmas toast. Let

962
01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:15.600
' s discuss the most outstanding twenty- three and prepare for twenty- four,

963
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:23.359
in which obviously Dr. Maximo Carvajal, Alejandro Andrade, Adrián González And,

964
01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:26.920
well, obviously many of the panelists
who are always participating with the intention

965
01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:30.640
of discussing how we see the two
thousand twenty- four for foreign customs trade

966
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:33.920
on the fiscal issue Many thanks to
everyone and thanks for being here in the

967
01:18:34.279 --> 01:18:38.399
barter we see next week and have
a nice weekend. Thank you, Master,

968
01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:43.640
Thank you, Thank you, Daniela, Thank you learned, very great,

969
01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:47.760
ay doctor, ay congratulations. Silvar
to do a hug very affectionate view,

970
01:18:47.960 --> 01:18:51.520
you are already going to pass for
people to Donald already reduced it,

971
01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:59.600
because they did to see who happened, what happened. Sixty of a hundred

972
01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:05.560
tummy, but good is that it
is that no one managed to have the

973
01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:13.840
eight five then hears, doing little
orthodoxy of the laws and regulations, lowered

974
01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:18.439
it to six of a pen,
of a pen and to six must have

975
01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:27.920
passed about twenty. The test was
very poorly calibrated, with very ambiguous questions

976
01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:35.119
and I think that' s why
I' m almost sure that nobody reached

977
01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:43.560
eighty- five because it was a
hundred questions and alone and they had to

978
01:19:43.720 --> 01:19:48.039
answer correctly eighty- five. Dr
Cimbo, there was someone who passed it

979
01:19:48.439 --> 01:19:53.680
suspiciously or luckily, and I want
to make a comment about this doctor.

980
01:19:55.159 --> 01:20:00.560
I decided and even sent a message
to someone in the nam not to participate

981
01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:05.680
in the examination when the invitation came
to me and I saw that it was

982
01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:13.359
going to be by heart, because
I respect too much the activity of linked

983
01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:16.560
with the right to money, with
foreign trade, with merciology, and I

984
01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:21.119
have the full knowledge that the people
who must be participating as abanal agents are

985
01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:25.199
not those who know themselves as a
perico, something that they will not be

986
01:20:25.279 --> 01:20:27.319
able to know, because they will
not be able to know, but those

987
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:30.399
who know. How to interpret,
how to read those who have integrity who

988
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:36.840
know how to carry this wonderful matter. So yes, I sent a message

989
01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:43.159
saying thank you very much, and
I even had a medical situation that prevented

990
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:46.680
me from participating as well. But
it was also my message not to lend

991
01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:51.000
oneself something that is one. It' s something that' s incredible.

992
01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:58.880
It' s amazing. I can
guarantee you Octavio that neither Enrique, nor

993
01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:04.439
Maximus, nor Antonio, nor Hector
nor Daniela would have passed sexamen. I

994
01:21:04.560 --> 01:21:13.560
can guarantee it. Yeah, it' s not him. How can they

995
01:21:13.720 --> 01:21:24.199
ask you about the peaceful trans,
the Treaty, what article does x thing,

996
01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:33.920
an article of an international treaty,
an article is impossible. I believe

997
01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:41.680
that neither those who made that treaty
nor those who made the temex can know

998
01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:46.479
every article per article. Look at
me I would like and I would be

999
01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:54.159
like someone I would like academically because
apart, they have to be preparing for

1000
01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:59.880
the same exam to be given to
all those currently working in Anam, all

1001
01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:06.439
in the same superior proportunity. But
it allows us to close the door that

1002
01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:10.199
allows us to do not as an
alliance the pa maybe, we change the

1003
01:22:10.279 --> 01:22:14.000
question, we will grab another,
the CPTPP. No. But yes,

1004
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:20.520
equal and I am sure with all
respect, that very few would pass,

1005
01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:28.840
very few, even none can.
That is because apart it requires the one

1006
01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:32.640
engaged in merciology has a special capacity. The treaty- goer has another one.

1007
01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:35.720
The one who knows the procedure of
nueudo with us, the one who

1008
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:41.119
documents with us, the one who
can be an agent to Banal, must

1009
01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:45.119
know them all, but in turn
has or is good in the end of

1010
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:49.920
here they say they agree. To
our friends, no, but that'

1011
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:56.960
s what I' m telling you. When asking these kinds of questions it

1012
01:22:57.079 --> 01:23:03.600
was reflected precisely in what you say
and I respect your opinion, which happened

1013
01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:10.840
some, but to those some that
must have been very little and that the

1014
01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:15.359
truth I doubt that someone approved it. They' re supposed to have,

1015
01:23:15.640 --> 01:23:18.760
because some people came out of there
who are famous, and they saw them

1016
01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:20.800
and they said they passed. I
don' t know the results. No,

1017
01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:26.119
well, he says they did.
I' m totaling it, but

1018
01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:28.119
let' s just leave it to
you that it happened a little bit.

1019
01:23:29.279 --> 01:23:35.760
It is a reprobation of the test
itself, which a few little ones had

1020
01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:41.439
more than eight five. That'
s why they were reduced not by little

1021
01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:45.000
sisters of charity and for having this
one more. And in six we'

1022
01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:53.039
re going to see if they got
to the hundred I' m going to

1023
01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:58.760
tell the hundred that they' re
supposed to give patents or see if there

1024
01:23:58.760 --> 01:24:00.600
' s a hundred with sixty points
of the test. There were five hundred

1025
01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:04.359
patents they wanted to give. So
no. I think they' ll reach

1026
01:24:04.359 --> 01:24:11.760
five hundred candidates. It was not
the ones who filed n number five hundred

1027
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:15.319
patents that they wanted to give.
But on the other hand, the tester

1028
01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:18.960
showed a frank knowledge of what the
activity that carries out an anal, that

1029
01:24:19.039 --> 01:24:21.840
is, has no idea. That' s what I' m saying.

1030
01:24:23.079 --> 01:24:26.479
It was with all intent that it
would not happen to anyone. But anyway,

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look what' s to see is
how we help the National Customs Agency

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get proscription, because if they ask
for that out, they have to have

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it inside. So I think we
need to see how we help them to

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improve their capabilities too, which I' m sure many of us here would,

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because many times too, if we
don' t have enough capacity,

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it generates losses, generates us over
time, generates costs, generates fines,

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generates inconveniences. Then see how.
I think all the doctors help. We

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have to put a new ca and
a new matter. Doctor at UNAM will

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have to stay and offer to some
graduates, some specialties, even if it

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is free in the spirit of what
you say that it can be dignified and

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that they can know so that,
then, they do not incur deficiencies.

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If I would be happy, I' m glad what I know without charging

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anything, I think everyone barter would
do it because our best investment is them,

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because that' s where we have. The best investment we can make

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is in that obstacle that exists due
not to a bad intention, a lack

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of knowledge, possibly of the matter. Then you have to see doctor,

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you have to look for how we
help you improve your abilities, because we

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would be well placed to do so, because we are already several agreements see

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goodbye. We' ve reached the
end of today' s TRUK. Thank

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you so much for joining us.
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let' s do a preak.