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How about a good afternoon, welcome, let' s have a barter,
as you know, a telese event, magas and Mexico. And,
well, this week it started very intense. I don' t know if
some already commented, but well, in the customs part, many wanted to
apply the test or applied the test for customs people. Some came out a
little disappointed, but well, it was part of right now some discussions that
there are on that subject, but well I take advantage to greet you,
to greet my dear Doctor Maximo Carvajal, how are you, Doctor, good
afternoon welcome to barter? Thank you, Enrique, you know I send him
a very big hug with those Christmas balls that so far smells Christmas And well
he seen pleasure to greet him and today, of course, a great guest,
to whom we always thank him for bringing us so much experience, Master
Gilberto Martínez, Master how is good afternoon welcome to make a barter? Thank
you, thank you, Teacher, and thank you and everyone for being here
with us. And well, today' s topic is the reduction of working
hours, an algido issue that is still under discussion, so crack is going
to get good. It' s today and it' s good to be
able to give him the word. I' d like to introduce your looks
and allow me to. Professor Gilberto Martínez Quintero is a graduate of the Bachelor
of Law of the Autonomous University of Baja California and Specialty in Law and also
a public accountant at the Instituto Tecnológico de Tijuana. In addition, he has
master' s degree in law and general administration from the UBC. It has
existed since nineteen hundred and ninety- nine in various forums such as Kanako,
Colegio de Contarios Públicos de Baja California, Asociación Mexicana de Contadores Públicos de Baja
California, Asociación de Profesionales y Mobiliarios de Tijuana, Colegio de Contadores de Ensenada
or ABC, Universidad Sertes Universidad UTA t to mention some on various topics such
as tax breaks, fiscal defense, labor law, anti- labado law,
privacy notice law, among other issues. He has been an independent tax accountant
for over thirty years and has served as an accounting expert before the district courts
of the Federation' s judiciary. Former tax coordinator of the Faculty of Accounting
and Administration of the UABC and was also law coordinator at Cessura University, in
addition to imparting the charter of tax law and individual labour law, as well
as taxes at other universities. Master, we welcome you and thank you very
much. I would also like to thank all those who are with us at
the national level for a barter and, well, I give you the floor
and thank you. Thank you very much, Master Daniel, thank you very
much for this presentation and, above all, for the invitation. Thank you,
and you already know that we are happy to share our opinion, therefore,
through this kind of talks in which, since we develop certain toral issues
that concern not only the company, but also the region, the economy,
the law, even the country itself. Let us say that this question of
analysing the problem, because it never ends. It' s an old-
fashioned walk, and trouble isn' t gonna end. And, well,
this range of talks and analysis that we do that we dedicate ourselves to these
topics in particular, because it is only trying to bring a bit of sand
and put it to the consideration of all those who are listening to us,
therefore, effect precisely that they take their own or nourish their own opinion And
those who are entrepreneurs, those who are advisers, because it also serves as
something to be able to carry out excellent advice to the company. In my
case, well, we dedicated more than thirty years ago as independent public accountants
to advising companies and, on the other hand, in the case of the
legal career, because more than twenty- five years ago, both in the
field of employment and in the area of tax defence. And I also want
to presume that I have a little tree. Nothing else you can' t
see is the little tree and also from here, competing with engineer Jiméns.
Of course I do. The Christmas spirit is no longer here. I am
not saying Gali Matías, but yes and this range of reforms that at the
end of the day we could conclude that they are not very timely for our
entrepreneurs, as advisor to employers companies, because we have or we collect genuine
concerns, those concerns on the part of our customers where they almost even beg
us. Tell me how I' m gonna do it,' cause I
' m getting more and more expensive on the payroll. I mean, the
holidays have already started, and subcontracting can' t be done. The employers
' quotas have already been increased by two thousand twenty- three, two thousand
thirty to what is fore, and the minimum wage goes up giving away the
money of others. You know who and everyone is not just this government,
all of them, but raising the minimum wage and having an impact precisely on
the costs, on the payroll, on the prices, on the aguinal,
which is aired that for the next year will surely be tested and increased to
thirty days. And that has an impact on the payment of the employer'
s obreo photos, the INFIE, the NINFONAVIT and the fore because in automatic
it has to be integrated. He' s leaving. There is an initiative
to extend the first occasional from twenty- five percent to fifty percent paternity leave,
which is currently five days, as there is an initiative for two initiatives,
one to extend it to ten days, as originally was in the reform
of two thousand twelve. And there is another market Patricia, so, the
great senator who gives money to the rest, which is the simplest thing in
the world, where she doesn' t say no how, how ten days
paternity leave we go bearded to thirty days that the hell not. Of course,
such initiatives sound very good at the electoral level and I believe that our
deputies and senators are being irresponsible in that regard. They are no longer issuing
letters to look good and without analyzing, without quantifying, without listening to the
parties who, at the end of the day, are going to be wronged
in the economic question and who will then vote to the workers themselves definitively.
This subject even dyes itself, dyes itself of ideology. So when ideology enters
into this kind of initiative, because we are already wrong, because many,
not even some judges have heard them in the open Parliament this talk. In
Congress, three dates were given for the open parliament that call listening to the
citizens, listening to the academy, listening to the parties in pine and a
judge, a judge if not more if he said it is not time to
do justice to the workers. Calm down, please, sing, then and
the Mexican Revolution is over. Now that, now, that must already be
over the issue. The lawsuit ended there in nine hundred and twenty- one,
when the Mexican Revolution began in nine hundred and ten, that yes,
indeed, there was a calamity for the working class. Not there, we
could see the abuse of big companies, including foreign companies, the two strikes,
where they had the workers killed in the Cananea, this river Blanco.
If there were the enormous conditions, very ugly and indeed, tightened so much
the wedge that was seen, because the bases were laid down, because for
a movement of such a nature that we romantically call it the Mexican Revolution,
it was nothing more than a civil war and good account. But that must
be forgotten by now. That doesn' t make sense to be saying good
anymore. It is that in the Federal Labour Law, both in the Federal
Constitution and in the Peral Labor Law, I am going to be increasing the
benefits, because it is fair for the workers to hear and the employers because
that reform goes to both parties and the employers with whom they will have to
pay and fight to cover those benefits. You heard them and you took them
into account. No, no, no, it' s that one in
justice. But what are we talking about, because if we go into the
sphere of ideology, we go further. I believe that here, among all
this gibberish that these labor reforms have become, we have that of labor reduction
and I believe that here, in reality, we have to see this issue
by a multidisciplinary group really to say it is of greater benefit. I see
the legal aspect nothing more, but here, perhaps psychologists can also share,
because what are the benefits, what are the advantages, why really, what
is the benefit of sociologists, anyway for accountants. And to say for effect,
that is, well, in an integral way, to have at least
overcome all the aspects that it has that or that imply this important, this
important initiative, which is the reduction of labor, because we can start in
budgets mine, for example, to say to see the reduction of labor,
to reduce the week from six days to five is beneficial. Or it isn
' t, so imagine yourself. Don' t imagine as you say now.
Imagine, for that of course is childish. No, because if I,
instead of going to work six days, I am going to work five,
they will pay me the same salary in the week, because of course
it is beneficial for me to vote soon beneficial as to that I will rest
for the same salary, but when we talk about when we talk about that
statement, we have to see it with jiribilla with an analysis. I say
to him in all aspects, especially economic, even labor, because to see
the beneficial can immediately. Apparently I do, but maybe I' m out
of a job, because, for example, and I' m telling you
this at once because it' s true what clients are telling us how I
do it, how I do it and I do it as a lawyer,
how I do it as an administrator. Help me with this, because I
won' t be able to bear it, I' ll have to close
the changarro. Do not expect not to close see these alternatives. And one
of them that I' m giving you in my case is to check your
work team. But it is no longer approved. Don' t do it
anymore How many workers do you have, then, that a dozen check them
with magnifying glass one by one and pick four of them that you' re
going to fire, that we' re going to fire, because I'
m going to support you to get the costs. Stay with the optimal staff,
stay with the productive staff, stay with the staff that shows attitude for
the job, that shows willingness and identify the four of twelve four, because
the payroll is in face that from twelve you will have to reduce it to
eight to follow the same level of bidder in your company. Then we already
have the first pernicious effect, which was initially beneficial, as it turns out
that it will not benefit you much. Yeah, you' re going to
work for five days, but see when you find work, because while you
' re already on the street because that' s what we' re going
to start ventilating, I mean, we say it with all his words,
and it' s not revanchism, it' s not being against this disposition.
It' s the need not one of our client who' s pressing
that says I' m not going to stand the payroll, I' m
going to have to close the Changarro. It' s not like I don
' t want to help you any more benefits. I can' t give
you any more benefits. I' m bleeding from the worker against other benefits.
You' re winning the ims me, you' re giving the imponavit
the fore me, it' s bleeding the payroll tax. The government of
the state, that is, they' re caught in the skin with those
little animals that suck your skin. They' re just squeezing you out,
because I' m going to tell you, well, I' m going
to give you an incentive, and I, the government of the state,
don' t invent a new tax, a second tax, on payroll tax.
Hey, boss, pay salary. Yeah, yeah, I' m
promoting employment, paying wages, and I' m gonna punish myself with a
tax on the novel. And why, then, for paying wages. Then
there are taxes even so absurd, so clumsy that it says good, but
because I have to pay you a tax for generating employment. As today'
s philosopher says, they don' t have a filler, so you have
to see it. I insist in an integral way on the case of reduction,
yes, immediately. If I earn five thousand pesos or three thousand pesos
a week I work six days and now I' m going to work five,
they' re going to keep paying me three thousand, because I'
m going to rest twice and they' re going to pay me, yes,
come on, but that' s right away. You should see the
effect you' re going to have even the same prices. That can no
longer be said by likely economists. I' m saying not this. We
have to look at it multidisciplinaryly, because I do not like to address areas
of other colleagues who are experts in your area, but we can insist there
are clients who are strengthened in what fits, are medium- sized companies that
we advise and they do have that quality. Say well, no, no
problem. I don' t care about my team. I' m going
to give you what the law says without a problem, after all, I
' m going to pass it on to the prices. I' m going
to pass it on to the prices I give to my clients. I have
that potential and I can do it. Then they' re gonna do it.
But there are others who don' t. Then you' d have
to see what it is now. Yes, that the impact from the point
of view of the economy, both in the worker' s economy and in
the employer' s economy, as well as in the local economy and the
national economy, with this type of initiative, this initiative is part of the
budget, part of the budget of which it is time. It is time
for the working day to be reviewed, for example. There are some who
say that is not that she is so old, the law that is not
reviewed and it is work, since to rest hole does not go there either.
If it' s not a birthday, if it' s not a
party, they' re like salary increases coming from the worker and boss mind
my salary because they' re already a birthday at the company. No,
Mr Digan, when you come here and tell me you' ve already increased
productivity and raised wages. We' re not going to increase him here because
he' s turning. Already that one must also be removed from it and
that is another of the effects, another of the recommendations that we are making
to the customers hears, since it no longer increases salary. That is,
if, on the one hand, you are going to pay the government high
taxes, precisely for all these labor reforms, because the government takes a big
cut. It' s a bird, it' s a shot that kills
two birds, as the saying goes. In fact, the government is collecting
without inventing taxes, but it really looks good to the workers and at the
same time is giving large taxes, both to infon and navit as well as
the local coffers of state taxes and therefore especially supernominous. Then there we have
also good, that is to say that freezes the salaries hear because I increased
them every year, because no longer because that increase you gave them, because
now it turns out that you will have to correct those costs that you have
to face because the aguinaldo is being reformed. There are initiatives and they'
ve all been thrown out for the next year, because of the electoral issue.
Right now, I' m on my way, but that cost because
you' re going to fix it with those increments that reached the worker.
So that' s another one of the alternatives that we propose to our clients
when they ask us, because that advice, because if we see them burdened,
they don' t think that' s the case. He is seen
and, on the other hand, let' s forget about the ideology is
that the boss exploits, because get out of the company. There' s
one way to help out that I see a crybaby that I see in the
networks is that my company is now. Good thing you' re here,
because my boss has me here exploiting my face and history and that Nekenna plantations
were there, already for Yucatán, in the early 20th century, where you
couldn' t leave, you couldn' t leave the plantation. The soldiers
were coming for you, they were looking for you wherever you went, they
were returning you back, as our countrymen say here in America, they were
returning you back. And so until you died there because you ran away from
the plantation. See it there. It is a book, it is a
denunciation that makes on genetx Turner in the play to Mexico Barbaro. There are
the conditions in which our workers lived, and there a worker, especially those
in Yucatán, could not escape. But that' s no longer the case.
In fact, the law, both the Constitution and the law, points
out well. The worker has no responsibility. If you leave the job,
none or if you signed a contract, nothing happens to the worker, to
the employer, yes, you have to give the master three months because I
finish his contract, because I don' t need it anymore, for whatever
you want, but no longer. So I don' t accept that they
' re saying it' s exploding my pattern. Then how he' s
exploiting you and he' s chaining you up, chained you there to work.
There isn' t. If a company exploits you, it treats you
badly and you greet. You' ll be changing Chamba by now. He
' s got a case of being in that company. So all these ideas
have been collected and expressed around this issue of shorter working hours. It is
about time that companies had to look after their workers. It' s always
been veiled at the end of the day, with its ups and downs.
Of course, but always the reduction of working hours says good is that we
are going instead of working six days, they are going to elaborate five.
It is not that what gives forty hours eye boy end see comes look well,
write it down, please, no more for what you fit well.
This is a constitutional reform of article one hundred and twenty- three paragraphs of
the Constitution of the United States of Mexico. It' s a reform of
days, not hours. Because it does give forty hours, but the reformation
is heard for every five days of labor, the worker must rest two paid.
Then it is in days I tell you something that gives forty. I
' m not telling you because there are others. I think like three initiatives,
like three in Congress to reduce the daily working day from eight to seven
hours. That' s another little tap that I don' t think sentences
like that. No, but imagine, imagine five days is eight hours,
the maximum day is forty hours. That' s what it gives, but
there are three initiatives. That' s where, where also the maximum day
is intended to be reduced to that. We' re not doing it every
day for the maximum of eight hours. There are three initiatives. You have
to be very careful. It' s the five- day one right now.
I do not know what it gives forty, but it does not talk
about the reduction of forty- eight, but the truth is the forty-
eight hour working days. Forty- eight hours are currently being prepared. Other
justifications are that in Germany, it' s that in the Republic of Chile,
it' s that in Spain, it' s that in Europe,
it' s that in the United States you already work forty hours and then,
then no, then we love the party. No, and why don
' t we, because that' s the point. There' s the
answer. Why don' t we rest, because we don' t produce
the same. There is no comparison point with Germany, for example, that
they work thirty- seven hours, not thirty- five hours in Germany,
but they are much more productive than the Mexican worker. Thirty- five hours,
thirty- four three and more productive. In Spain it is thirty-
eight five for the two thousand twenty- four, in Chile thirty- seven
hours, because it has gradually been reduced and because we do not compare but
the global productivity index in the countries, because no, Mexico is very low,
very far from the first places. So here the point is that that
is precisely where I take the side around the alternative I give to the customer,
which I tell you one can choose the most productive. One picks the
most productive, because you' re gonna fire four. That' s what
I recommend. You make the decision I recommend you and that' s why
I' m already charging you on the one hand, but on the other,
don' t rush. Don' t go to the room for 12
o' clock saying you need to hire an employee. He doesn' t
change the chip anymore, even if he' s a small businessman, he
' s already changing the CHIP at once and I' m getting a worker.
That' s the first one I' ve hired. I' ve
already hired him, because to see how you get out is no longer so
expensive the payroll that you can' t anymore I advise you. Don'
t hire anyone anymore, don' t plan your workers' needs anymore.
And at least for the next month, if not for the year, and
check which are who they are, if they have tables, as it is
said colloquially, and also, still with the contract to test, with the
clause, you can test them that here we advise you, for already at
least. You have protection there. Saying no, because Leake plainly did not
serve. It looked good, it brought attitude, but no man, no,
no, no, no, in the fifteen days it thundered well,
for there is the little contract. There' s a proof clause. Keep
the period to the test nothing more than the month and already wright good-
bye because it is so expensive the ninth that you can no longer hire anyone
and do not walk in your hurry, because if you hire with you I
hope that I already urge three of them then tell you after, nothing more,
then sail with the squeak, because now there is, that is another
one of the actions that the entrepreneur has to take. He won' t
hire any workers anymore. You have to be very careful there too. It
' s going to have an impact on the working class, because you'
re already going to have to improve your knowledge, your skills, have graduates,
well. The good thing is that there are so many courses and even
free to have no diplomas in such a way that you show up with all
those letters to apply for work and there you stay, at least to stay
today, from there to stay. It is another thing that has attitude,
that is not lacking, that is punctual and that enters the chamba and that
is productive. Because I' ve always said, because a worker is never
fired to a bad worker. The workers always say goodbye to the bad.
It' s weird. It' s weird there when you least experience it.
It is rare there the pattern really does, it runs to a good
worker usually, because it is a problem or a lack of attitude, among
other things. Returning to the point then of working time, these repercussions have
to be taken by the employer. First, you get the wages, which
means you' re finished, second, or you get a punctual attendance award.
Sir, if you take it off, you' re not going to
get angry anymore, because you' re not obliged to give that. We
have to verify more the plan of benefits and that if you put it there
that was annual and that it is going to be reviewed annually take it off,
not badly inform them in writing and let us go I will not give
you first for punctuality assistance and with that you will compensate those costs. They
will be given to the government in the tax on so- called state,
with a second on tax that comes to punish you the fact that you pay
and give minds employment, the income tax, the employers' quotas afore,
the employers' quotas to lims, because each year they are increasing among others.
So here we have this problem that affects precisely the actions. There'
s a little light there. That' s good. Well, forty-
eight hours is the current one. Six days to see I don' t
know if we can change. That way, I' ll see, or
I can change it. I can' t support us in changing the slide.
But, well, that' s one of those I didn' t
like. That' s better. So, that' s one of the
repercussions and we say it as advisors, because you can talk a lot.
It' s not that five days good, but why ah it' s
that it' s already for justice, ah it' s not that now
I' m going to be more productive. They say ah gee, pray
to him. That' s another justification some give, even that we can
read them in so many publications, is that if you work, if it
' s a simplistic logic, it' s not that if you work less
days, you' re going to be more restful, go for it,
you' re going to spend more time with the family, you' re
going to be happier and when you' re happier, you' re going
to be more productive. That' s why I' m telling you that
this has to be helped by psychologists, sociologists, too. This is a
job issue of itself, but it has other edges that can help us economists
also face to face and by little, because yes, because if so and
they are going to be, they will be both productive, as well as
speaking thus towards a percentage. No, well, I think they' re
going to increase productivity by ten percent a day, no, because it'
s fine. So what I say is five that is four, that works
in four, no, because if the less they work the more productive.
No, we' re going to cut him off. No, and where
they got that, where the studies are, are the research that gives rise
to that, and besides, in what turns, in what kind of activities,
in what kind of companies it takes. That' s a mathematical formula
that' s going to be given in all, in automatic, in all
workplaces. No matter what activity they are engaged in, if they are small
and large and are medium- sized and are of construction, if they are
of service, if they are of passenger cars, if they are doctors.
He' s half- hearted. I don' t see it. Like
this. The truth is, of course, that companies have to support the
productive sector more by means of training. Of course, of course, because
it even suits the company. But that more restful is going to be more
productive I don' t think so. What I do see I can imagine,
I am not the expert is that they are going to be happier,
more restful, that is, that they are from six days to five,
yes, but from there to the immediate effect, that is, they are
more productive. I don' t think so. I don' t think
so. However, this reduction in working hours, as these were the justifications
it has. Not that the law hasn' t changed in years. No,
sir, if it' s not party, it' s not party,
I mean, we' re not partying. Unfortunately, our country is
so bad at the economy. We have not come out in forty years of
being a Third World country. It' s called romantically in development that'
s another one we have. The curious Mexicans love to tell things by another
name, when so simple to say we are third- worlders. We are
in the process of developing, since what days, about thirty years ago I
have done that since Carlos Salinas de Gortari arrived. There are at the end
of the 1980s in development that, by the way, managed to get on
the free trade treaty train at least when it got together with two powerful partners,
Canada and the United States. But this one, because I don'
t see that. So here we have is that it hasn' t changed
in years, because because it has to change you tell me why if it
' s going to change? I insist if there' s going to be
an immediate counterpart, which is that you' re going to get me the
same one, at least the same chamba in those five days. So,
go ahead I don' t see any problem, because I need to get
my production out, because my customers abandon me the first time they don'
t comply with them. The trade doesn' t forgive the customers so they
don' t expect you and the competition is around the corner. But if
you in five days are going to get me at least the same production of
six, go ahead. But if not, it' s not that I
' m going to rest for rest, no, because it hasn' t
changed in years, because then we' re going to lose customers. I
' m going to close down the company at the end, because I,
the client, am not going to pass it on. That doesn' t
look. It' s just, like under production, because already my workers,
by law they' re resting one more day and excuse me the client
I' m going to deliver you the order you made in fifteen days.
He' s not gonna wait for a client on that pretext. And so
in the chain, the consumer equals the customer, the final consumer, because
he wants to see a product. They don' t have it at the
standf because it' s going to go to another, to buy it,
to another or a little worse, to care. Look at the foreign companies
going to win, because I want my product, because there is not because
production is not coming out, because now there is no productivity and work less
five days a day less there is in the stock the products that my supplier,
who always bought, because I need it already and here I have another
two or three even imported, then there we will have, We will have
a problem is also that in other pasaises you already apply. For I do
not care that in other countries snow falls or stops falling, because in other
countries it already applies, for it does. When we have the productivity of
other countries, such as Germany, we go thirty- seven hours, as
they say they work in France, Luxembourg, Spain, Chile, Argentina,
of course. The point here is that working time is already time. They
say it' s not time out there. All the issues involved should be
aired. It' s not exactly time. It is not yet time that
even the President himself, today or yesterday, says no, that always not
that he leaves for the next legislative period having the majority in Congress and that
it can be approved now to then go to the seventeen legislatures, because it
is a constitutional reform, it has to be approved in Congress and, at
least, in seventeen entities, legislatures of the federative entities. It is a
constitutional reform, it is a formula and that the Constitution itself points out precisely
so that we will not be appearing the panties of the famous movie that comes
and changes and the Constitution as they please not for that reason the formula of
Congress and, moreover, the seventeen legislatures to change a comma of the Constitution,
for it would be necessary to see if it is now so. I
insist that the legislators themselves froze it for the time being and the President himself
ends up saying that if he trained that better for now he would not have
been left in Congress at least to move later to the legislatures, which goes
to the next, to the next legislative cycle. So, no, I
mean, you heard it very well, you heard it well, but you
are already starting to pause, because there are repercussions, because if it were
something positive, it would have already been approved. But it has its dimensions
and its effects all in the immediate. And I insist as an advisor.
Or you know what. First you freeze his salary. But already in the
face of so much onslaught that there is through these labor reforms. Freeze that
I recommend that you don' t squeal at me. You already freeze wages
time to be, because very low, because you are increasing the cost of
payroll punctuality bonus to take them off what other benefits you are not required by
law and you already start there to analyze case by case. Of course,
the situation especially ok well, the other slide, right now, there are
some questions there in the chat at the end we will gladly answer it.
The businessman. There is another issue also that we are forgetting, the artist
entrepreneur. There' s the businessman. It is not a big entrepreneur or
in economic question, because in magnitude it is not here, in Mexico,
ninety- eight percent, ninety- eight percent is micro and small entrepreneur.
That is also the problem, because we are not insisting, we are in
a third world country. It is not good in the course of development,
because then you see the feelings and the sensitivity. Well, that' s
okay, well, on the way to development, but the reality is that.
Ninety- eight percent are micro and small entrepreneurs not, no, no,
very chambeurs. It' s not taken away from them. Those are
entrepreneurs. We support them as much as possible and they will bear the maximum
burden at best. Big companies do it. But, because they don'
t have a problem because they transfer those costs to their users, for example,
the banks that are going to be suffering the million dollar fines because they
have been quietly paid for money laundering by two billion dollars without where they pay
for how they charge it to users, because they have the market and they
have the economic potential to do so. But the micro and small not then
between that closes, between that the informality goes today, between that lay off
staff to stay with the ideal, because there we will be there doing all
those balances when we advise each client. In particular, each client is a
special situation and, of course, that this reform can impact on the entrepreneur
' s finances, because that is another one also hears is that I my
production program, I my work programme, I require that six days be necessarily
drawn up one shift. Sometimes even the three of us. There are no
companies, up to three there' s a company where, if you expect
it' s working at twenty- four hours. Three shifts every six days,
Sometimes until Sundays he pays all that, he does pay them all,
but because he has commitments to companies, even foreign companies, a media company,
very organized, goes very well, he even has a foreign client.
We' re not going to say, because it' s not that it
says, it' s that I can' t stop production, that is,
this five- day thing. I' m gonna have my employees there
He doesn' t matter that he already has to pay triple. They'
re gonna keep working on Saturday. The worker knows what' s going to
happen, that it' s going to be happy Hey, boss, do
me a favor. I work Saturday. Also pray to him because he'
s going to get ri on Saturday and the boss is going to say I
don' t have another one. I have to do it on Saturday because
I' d be late in production. He' s gonna pay them triple
on Saturday. The worker, on that side, is going to be happy
because he' s going to bring you more money. But the essence of
this reform will be lost, because the idea was that you should rest my
boy. Now it makes you even more attractive to be there to see me
turning around, to see if I authorize you to come on the sixth day,
because not that you wanted to rest, yes, boss, but I
already know that I pay triple. He doesn' t need me on Saturday.
Segurito, Patrón, Segurito, Segurito, because I do want to work
on Saturday, Patrón, and there we will have them. That' s
right, I see it, uh, and the patma say,' cause
it' s not that I don' t have another one and I can
' t move my production. I don' t have this way maybe in
the long run. Yes, where I extend, have more machinery and equipment,
hire more staff and then go to production within five days. But while
I can' t do that because too, because there' s a budget
that this planning is no more like that, no more I' m going
to extend and rent the next place and put in more machinery and more workers
and everyone in five days and I' m already getting the same level of
production. It' s not like that. There are machines like the ones
I tell you, they are machines that are worth more than 200 good,
not to be told, but there is enough money imported for the type of
products that this particular makes, for example. Then we have one other problem
that in this case is going to say good. I don' t care
if they work on Saturdays. Your sixth day I' m going to pay
you, that there' s no problem because I can' t stop and
then the worker will accept it. Of course, it' s not that
he accepts it, it' s not that it' s imposed on him,
because by law he' s going to have to accept it. The
seventh day. Yes, you can refuse to elaborate it by the worker.
The one who cannot refuse to work is the holiday break. That one I
can force and I still have to pay triple, but I can force it.
The one I can' t force is the seventh day of weekly rest.
Then, well, that would be solved, because surely he was working
to say no, because more money. I do keep chambing him on the
sixth day. I mean, I' m not sure he' s a
boss, because he knows he' s gonna get a big prize. Then
you have to be very careful. It' s going to have an impact
on the finances and it' s going to have an impact on the things
that your will necessarily impact on the prices and here I see quick in the
chat they' re going to look for another job. That' s the
danger. But of the four of the four days, they already left five
that were four in automatic and would be working in another chamba, in another
job. It' s most likely four days here, three days in another
chamber, because you have to know what kind of companies, what turns we
have, that is to say we' re killing a construction company, two
builders that that kind of work, a man gets into it and all the
overtime he wants. They happy and Sunday there are then with this they do
not stop. They tell them that three days off, whatever, they go
to the other company right away and then they go back to yours without any
problem. We need to look at these issues. There' s nothing else
there. I' m going to shrink, because we should see ventilate.
That ok next slide, please and they' re supporting us with moving the
entrepreneur. It' s from the perspective of the company I' ve already
told you. I do not hear what we do, what counsel accountant advises
me, because I am a lawyer and filic accountant and we manage precisely the
finances, taxes of taxpayers and customers. And it does look a little difficult.
Or next slide, because of the five hundred that I have already put
I think that it is a small one to conclusions, because yes, this
question of the reduction of the working time does have to be gradual, if
it is to be given, if it is to be given, it must
be gradual and, moreover, it must raise productivity. Let' s see,
I insist if you in five days are going to answer me with greater
productivity taking out at least the same production, because there is no problem.
I don' t see any problem. That' s what we' d
have to see, we' d have to see that situation the same way.
Must be reciprocal, right. I want to rest and he says,
but I also want you to pay me, well, yes, yes,
I pay you, but I insist on what you' re going to give
in return, no, because I' m a worker and I want you
to pay me, because it' s just to see when you set up
your company, put on your changarro, to see put on a little chandarito
that you want and hire a worker and listen to his demands to see if
it doesn' t change your perspective, because it' s not that simple.
Just like that. This does not add to the problematic situation that persists
in the working relationship that so many cases have experienced. I think the day
I insist on what was left that is not approved this year. It will
go until the next cycle that begins the legislative that begins in February ends in
April. There it is, it' s going to be tried. It
would have to do with what it looks like. If it' s going
to be gradual. I' d be the idea that if it' s
going to prove to be sharp, not anymore, because this is something I
' ve collected. It should not be gradual, of course, but to
see if a measure is to be taken, because once and for all it
should be gradual as soon as the other year is approved and the twenty-
five for companies to prepare themselves. But you already know that two thousand twenty
- five, already forty hours let us take already and have a period of
grace to the entrepreneurs, for now to continue planning, to go, hiring
more machinery, etc, training the current staff finally, because they require a
staff to take out the same production at least already by that year and we
think I am thinking aloud that they will be approved in two thousand twenty-
four with effect from January two thousand twenty- five. Then you already give
the entrepreneur a time of grace to prepare himself, so that he can prepare
himself and then have his own staff, even get rid of the staff and
productive or even the staff, which is unproductive, but you invite him to
be productive. And say hey, I' m gonna train you, I
' m gonna pay you this. I' ll pay you that to see
if you stay here at the company, because when you work five days at
six, I want you to get the same productivity. And that' s
how it' s gonna be. It is going to be a style there
for the entrepreneurs and they are advised, at least with a server, among
other colleagues that we have talked about in the field of work, that there
is no other if the entrepreneur does not need, because there is no other
than to tell him those pragmatic solutions and above all, the warning And I
that I do them, do not go in their haste, already order,
already do everything in time, not to the boat soon nor to the room
for the twelve syste will hire people. Now, if you do a procedure
or hire, pay someone to evaluate that one. It doesn' t matter
what it costs, but send the best staff to evaluate it. There are
offices specialized in that to evaluate the skills of knowledge and that even give him
popcorn. No, or this one is good for what you want. And
yet everything is still stuck. We hold it with the contract, with a
clause that has a period of time to itself in case the flys as we
say here in the North, then yes, yes, yes, I say
that it will be tested in the other year and why, because of the
context, also by the electoral context. Remember there that power is careful.
Power is tremendous and no one wants to let go of power once he has
it. And then this is a great offer. I say, I misconceived
already in the political sphere and of all politicians and boys, of all,
of all are equal. All politicians, all are parasites who live on account,
at our expense. All politicians around the world are parasites, leeches living
at our expense. But there is no other. We don' t all
fit in Congress, in the House of Senators, we have representatives, there
is no other. That' s the good system here. The point is
that they are leaving it for the other year, to look good because of
the proximity of the elections, that is, it was not approved in this
one but it is approved in April. And, to put it this was
a success for us in this Government. So, then, I' ve
been good, in the elections it wasn' t our gain. I think
that' s where she' s going and that' s why they stopped
her. Now something that is going to be given in what terms, I
insist, we still do not know. I don' t think I'
ll be in right away. I would like it to be approved, but
let it be gradual forgiveness, rather than gradual, to enter a vacatio legis
until January 1st of the two thousand and twenty- five. And so there
is no excuse for entrepreneurs to prepare themselves for such effects. All right,
I' m done with this. My talk. It' s a brief
talk. Here in December, already the Christmas Arbolito, since what else we
can talk about so many things, but I would like to, anyway,
review the questions. Let me see you open the chat here to answer the
questions you asked to see good afternoon the rose Coahuila. Let me see,
let me see so far the employment subsidy no longer applies because it exceeds the
limit. I' m going to see ah that has to do with raising
to the minimum wage. That' s the name. If you are spending
the money, how nice to spend the money at g not the increase of
the minimum wage. Yes, that is another very interesting topic, very interesting
because there is impact on the equal cost of products. That is another issue
that should be looked at very well in equal social security contributions. And here
we have to verify what that effect is, what all the effects are and
are going to be nice gebrarto, in his opinion, the reduction of the
day will be testing twenty two thousand. It' s going to be approved
in two thousand twenty- four. I' ve already consulted with Monsivist.
I am not telling you that for the reasons I gave you a short time
ago because of the electoral question. It' s going to be tested on
the next one. How it' s gonna look. I still don'
t know. I feel like it' s going to be, it'
s going to apply up to two thousand twenty- five. Let' s
hope so. Let' s hope so. Now, I insist on what
the counterpart is. It' s nothing more, because that' s where
the aguinaldo' s from. Boy don' t increase to thirty days and
with them the employer' s worker photos. How good you are to be
my dear Doctor Octavio. What' s your opinion, he says sorry.
What is the opinion of the 20 percent increase, as it is a stretch
and slack. He doesn' t always command octavius. No. I can
' t hear you I can' t hear you I can' t hear
you. It is also not a very interesting subject. To begin with,
the minimum wage of three hundred how much remained here on the border three hundred
seventy- five pesos, numbers closed for two thousand twenty- four. It
doesn' t reach three hundred seventy- five pesos. At the border,
that city is not enough, at least Tijuana is very expensive, so it
does not reach three hundred seventy- five pesos. It' s my edition.
The truth is of old, because I don' t know a salary
that really, maybe it' s a minimum index to cover. But in
ra, the truth I insist is that it' s a so- called
minimum wage, because it doesn' t really cover the need is that it
says the law that yes I insist remember that we love to cheat, we
love it. I do not know why, then it is that the minimum
wage reaches for the subsistence of the worker and his family to dress food.
Everything does not reach three hundred seventy- five pesos. That' s not
true. If it really is an increase to the minimum wage, it should
be at least double that much. The problem is the pernicious effect that there
would be on employment as well as on costs as on prices, as no
more so increase does not say greetings. I was already here. I'
m reading the questions. So, if so the protocol yes, yes,
ah, well, or I start looking for a second job until one or
third of the weekend. The weekend is likely to be so and above all
some, for example, the construction sector. So, that and advisor,
a construction company and man. That doesn' t waste anything, eh nothing.
Every day he punishes my client for two or three days and you know
them that they went to the next one. There, to the next construction.
Then, then to work those two days that are punished. On this
side I raise the minimum wage thirty aguinaldo what they say, this what I
told you the paternity leave do you and Favou, among others. It'
s more. We' re already making sure I have to pay him because
his head hurts. Just as we go, hey, Skipper, I'
ll give my head. The law says I have a day' s work
left because I have a headache and I have to pay for it, because
there you go. We cannot be so cynical in the case of the legislator
and so loose in this the truth, that is, it is not that
way, because I insist, the economy rules wherever it is not and this
has an economic effect. They' re not gonna put up with my pynes.
That' s right. Thank you, excellent. What a teacher and
thank you. Thank you. While we are looking at these questions and they
are, I can open the discussion. Right now, the panelists. Someone
was there, or you wanted to comment, notice that yes, if you
can and if I may, Gilberto and say hello to my sensei, Dr
Carvajal, you saw Carbadillo, Hector and especially Enrique. That' s where
you greet everyone. Notice that I differ a little from what you were talking
about and that' s part of what I' m interested in discussing.
First, because a reform of the reduction of working hours, if we review
the data of the INEGI. As for unemployment in Mexico, we are at
a stage in which there is no unemployment, that is, unemployment is very
small and there is a reduction in working hours in the way in which the
reform designed by Congresswoman Terrazas, who is from Ciudad Juárez, who collapsed several
maquiladoras in Matamoros, one of them fox Con, and who also collapsed in
Ciudad Juárez some of the companies where her vision is the maquiladora and manufacturing industry
of export services, where she is trying to bring that reform, because it
is limited to that segment or to that sector, because if you go to
the one that is ninety- eight percent of the economy, which is the
trade, service and tourism sector. That sector or, that good segment is
sixty- three percent and sixty- three percent of the Pip ninety- eight
percent of that sixty- three are micro- small and medium- sized enterprises.
In the case of micro, small and medium- sized enterprises, the
majority are family In this respect, that segment of the trade is the one
that has a laundry, a hardware store, a dry cleaner, a tortilería,
a law firm or services such as that of Héctor Castro, a school
like the one that has the carballido view, that is that segment. That
one is very representative. Obviously, they are not the big entrepreneurs who have
one hundred or two hundred or three hundred or five hundred thousand jobs, such
as social insurance, which is the main employer in Mexico, is the largest
employer in Mexico. So that segment, which is a family business, would
have a direct impact because, indeed, that kind of business and here asks
the carballido view if they can not open their school. Or ask someone who
has a hardware if they can not open on Saturday, because the reform reduction
was approved and there is tobacco because we are going to be more productive.
There are sectors of the economy that cannot be more productive with a reduction of
the day, because they have to open the shops And these shops, being
open, that is, if they close, they do not become more productive.
These are shops that provide a service to the public. Another sector that
has a major problem is tourism, the tourism sector. There is a great
situation on the issue of generation of people who participate in that segment working in
that tourism sector, which obviously are not at that disposal of the reduction of
labor cones. Now, what I have seen is that we always compare it
with the data given by the ITU International Labour Organization, and they tell us
about several countries that have implemented this day, this reduction of work schedule,
that those countries are not of First World, but they also compare us with
those of the First World, where they say well, in such a country
there is a reduced day, that is, there is also all that comparative.
The implementation of such reforms has always been gradual. Now what happens hill
or what I' m talking about here for everyone and it' s an
opinion, it' s a personal opinion. It is that the reform proposal
in the process would have to be evaluated, because the vision we have is
as if we were all maquila. And in Mexico, because the maquila are
two thousand companies that do have an important economic movement, but it is not
really the totality of the companies that exist in Mexico, at least those that
I ubic that are maquiladoras and that are certified, that are even less.
Then it gives me the impression that we do have to make a more conscious
assessment, both because we may not have enough staff to be able to open
those days one and two, also because it will have a direct impact on
that segment, which is the one that does move the economy. Perhaps it
is not the big tax payers, but in proportion to the gross domestic product
it is the ones that move the country. All the little ones are less
than the big ones. If we are the ones that generate economy. I
mean, there' d be a direct impact by now. This considering the
reform of dignified vacations, which, of course, already generates a benefit to
our collaborators, but that also implies us to have more investment, because the
client wants to be cared for and not the client does not expect to return
from vacation. The consultant, the consultant who opens the chamba, the client
wants to be taken care of. So now additional To that I would also
say agile from a point of view this, from my point of view,
that this reform has to come along with other ingredients. What ingredients. Fifty
percent if out of every hundred pesos you pay an employee, fifty pesos more
are taxes and sr was taxes we paid the employee and the employer, i
e, don' t think employees don' t pay taxes. You gentlemen,
you think you earn ten zero pesos because that' s what you'
re deposited with. That' s not true. You earn fourteen zero pesos
or fifteen thousand pesos, but the rest is what social insurance, INFORNAVIB,
income tax and other contributions are paid. So, if we really thought about
a reform where productivity would be reduced and improved and reform that would generate more
formal employment, the first thing we would have to think about is how the
government, the state, makes its budget more efficient and generates a reduction or
stimulus and a job prize. In Mexico, employment is punished In Mexico,
payroll if you know, is possible up to fifty- three or fifty-
four percent. Payroll is our main working capital. It would have to be
a hundred percent. Deductibility is up. The subsidy tables have not been updated.
They' re not up- to- date. So, if you
see in the income law of the Federation, because you see that there is
going to be an increase in revenue, of course you will see it,
because now I am going to go into the other issue, that is the
reduction of the day, that I agree that our collaborators and on TVs,
if it is not daniel that is, we take vacations, we try to
give time, that is, people work on how officient people are happy.
There is not so much, we don' t have so much rotation,
but we do have to think in a conscious way about how a reform is
going to be implemented that is based on an analysis, of a study,
of an international organization of work that has a different purpose. So it is
productive or not productive to people. And there' s a situation there,
too. Yes, it is true that the employee is going to look for
another chamba, that is, the fact that he wants to justify himself as
having more time for quality of life to be with his family. Son,
there are no studies that say that they are not looking for another chamba,
so what do you have to do, then, improve your income so that
you have a single chamba and have time to be with your family. I
was involved in Konasami as part of the representation of the business sector in the
twenty percent increase that has just been given to participate within the meeting at midnight,
we were signing the agreement that was made with the intention of continuing to
increase proportionally the income that the workers have. And we saw it well that
it was twenty percent could be more. But I also raised and continue to
raise it in that forum, with the Secretary and the members of the Committee
being present, which had to be reviewed, because the increase may be more.
This Enrique Gil and Doctor Carvajal, if we give it fifty- five
percent in contributions, in taxes that have to return us in services, because
those taxes and that we cover is to give us services, then not good.
If we are to make an effort to make our collaborators have a better
income, then the effort has to be two- way, not just on
the side of the worker and the employer, but also of the collector.
And that' s where it has to be reviewed that, for example,
the GIL payroll has been deductible to 100%, that, for example,
the quotas are reduced and you have and you give formal work, because you
pay a little less social insurance contribution, the infonavita to SATH because it will
allow you to hire more staff or transfer it to a direct benefit to your
worker. That, that' s a reality. In fact, it is
something that I am putting forward to this day. Gilli, who would like
everyone to help me because obviously, because nobody gets to see, because I
see that twenty mines earn twenty eight thousand pesos. What happens is that the
other eight don' t see them because the other eight. Anyway, we
have to pay for them by the worker and the employer. So what'
s going to generate this. This is going to give rise to two situations.
Informality in Mexico is more than fifty- seven percent plus numbers less.
Informality is ambulantism and the grey market. Yeah, that informality doesn' t
contribute to public spending. It doesn' t contribute taxes, it doesn'
t generate tax returns, it doesn' t have an a. The best
has an RFC, but it doesn' t. He doesn' t have
a tax address. He doesn' t pay, he doesn' t make
his monthly statements, he doesn' t make his annual statement. He doesn
' t pay social security, he doesn' t pay infonavit, that is,
he doesn' t generate. Yes, of course it generates quotas for
municipal presidencies because they give them permits and licenses to get on the street,
but neither do they pay liability insurance, firefighters, police, operating notices,
predial licenses don' t carry that either. There is a symmetry between the
formal established sector and the grey and informal market sector. What happens when you
keep increasing in this way without reducing something that is obvious to everyone, that
is, to tell us that there was no tax increase, because it is
also a fantasy, because at the time of raising wages, there is an
immediate increase in income tax. Or it is not true that there is an
increase because the base is modified. So it seems to me that there are
basically three fundamental aspects that need to be reconsidered. The 100% deductibility of
the payroll, which is our capital and we cannot be told that we are
inventing it so much because there is materiality, because the worker exists, because
he provides the service. That I don' t understand why it' s
never been given 100 percent productivity to the payroll, I mean, it'
s incongruous and I don' t see a lot of people saying that that
also catches my attention from accountants. That is how one two is the reduction
and we did it, the planning, we say it clearly, we say
it in quite a few forums. The reduction and the prize that can be
given to the one who generates the formal job established, the one that does
contribute the one, instead of seeing how. I mean, because here'
s a topic that we all have to understand, too. People aren'
t going to close, they' re not going to stop selling. People
are going to say you know what I do to you and I' m
going to make you recycle and I' m going to pay you off and
I' m going to take it all away from you is that it'
s the crime. That' s violence. That' s why this will
make the worker recycling the crime. You have to be careful. I mean,
I' m not saying in agile counseling. The one out there,
who' s giving, one who' s doing an act of trade,
is going to look for the agile way to keep working. And many of
them will end up going to ambulantism or informality or paying, in cash,
because it is also a crime not to pay taxes. And fifty- seven
percent of Mexicans who do business don' t pay for it. And it
' s also a gil crime, because it' s also a crime not
to contribute to public spending. And so I got involved here I don'
t know if it' s a forum where we' re going to ask
questions or it' s a forum where we' re all going to participate.
I' m already confused. No forgiveness, it was merely a related
opinion. I' m not sorry I got together I think it was a
forum where several. There are several colleagues that I suggested multidisciplinary and each of
those, from their perspective, will give what is their opinion on precisely this
issue that of the work meeting, which is the work on the octavio side,
that it does not pay fifty- seven percent. There too, if
I disagree with you, I' ll tell you why they don' t
pay income tax. That' s why I have always existed. I do
not mess with economists, because they are experts in economics, we read and
everything, but they are the expert sociologists, psychologists in the case, in
the case of taxes, because more than thirty years in matter, in that
area. Well, they give that authority to study and further study those issues.
If there is one there there is a mistake in making those demonstrations that
fifty- seven percent of the economy does not pay taxes. What he doesn
' t pay is that I don' t know if anyone' s going
to put, I don' t know sorry and I already got dizzy here.
In the end we normally open up as the participation of the panelists,
because if they want to make a comment for that to ok yes, yes,
general wins the protocol because they make me dizzy someone was going to expose
there, but I don' t know good. I was involved Hill and
generally, in the end we ask questions and answers that Dani and everyone who
participated, that we are accompanying you here because there are more people who are
seeing you and are broadcasting on social networks live, we make comments, in
my case, obviously, because it is a comment that wanted to come to
add the great presentation that you made and thank you, of course, as
always the one that you are always looking at and always are attentive to any
situation of these. I don' t know if any of the panelists here
Hill wants to make a ritual comment, Doctor Maximo Carvajal, Héctor Toño,
none, Enrique, none, because Dani I believe none of the panelists wanted
to be comment anymore. And thank you very much indeed Phill for this Portugal,
i e part, do not end ah sorry forward that weird good,
ok pay back nothing else to make the precision, fifty- seven percent of
the informality that, in fact, that cup of the PEA does not pay
income taxes. But if you pay taxes when you go to consumption, for
example, you pay the value added tax. When you go and buy products,
items that cover the libano, if you have cart, then YEBS pays.
And when he consumes gasoline, even the one that doesn' t have
a car, when in the fare of the public transport, then he pays
the JEBS, because there they are giving it to him. If it doesn
' t have to be demonized. I am also not aware of the idea
of informality, but to say quite clearly that they do not pay taxes.
Yeah, I' d like no more to make that clarification. They do
not pay income taxes because they are not controlled, but they do pay the
rest, the rest, at least of the feds, the consumption, they
mostly, for example, there is an 8 percent tax on the consumption of
what we call junk food, for example. That' s where they pay
when they consume the coke, when they consume the chips, when we consume
not until I put in yes, yes, yes, they pay. I
say no more to make that precision, Don Octavio. On the other hand,
and you touched on a very interesting point in labor matters. The new
labor prosecutor, if I may say well, is that the workers were disguised
as recico and I didn' t do it anymore. You have to be
very careful there, because that one I don' t recommend? I don
' t recommend it. It is a crime, already the sat brings them
into the eye and then it will enter into a great, in a serious
problem, a taxpayer of that nature. Now, yes, it' s
all my participation. I swear, I swear for nothing, and the truth
is, we really appreciate your participation. I do not think we have said
anything and I think it is important to mention that here it is not a
recommendation to be made reciprocated, but that there are some comments that we have
heard from the entrepreneurs with whom we have discussed how you externalized it. At
first, we are all concerned, especially not to generate unemployment, so as
not to generate that, that is, we stop contributing, that there is
more informality, that is. I think a lot of people here were staring
at him and you said it all this time. Actually, as entrepreneurs,
we do care about the entire work team. But it is also right now,
because we have to think about how to survive business in that sense.
And well, the truth is that very interesting your talk here asked us how
they can see again, obviously on YouTube they can see it again that it
is very interesting. And, well, here elisabe is also commenting on the
companies. We have to put our voices together and ask their cameras to be
well represented and win and win, that is to say, to seek a
winner and to change the mentality of a working employer, because sometimes it is
not only the workers who are wrong in the working culture in the day to
day, because I believe that in this part. Yes, it is important,
as they say, to voice and, above all, to think that
we have a better Mexico. Master Gil thank you so much for all your
contributions. I send you a strong hug and good from the whole team of
tels magas in Mexico that we arrive to a tque we want to give this
virtual recognition to Maestro Gilberto Martínez for azun truck in the ritual talk. With
the theme the reduction of the working day, on December 6 of the two
thousand twenty- three, signed by the Rector Fede de la Torre, his
master servant. Thank you very much, as always, for being open to
these discussions of topics such as the reduction of Laura' s journey. Thanks
to you all a hug and merry Christmas and you' re Christmas. Thank
you China, or if I hug everyone very fondly And well, next week
we are already closing this year' s barter in Gresamos on the 11th with
the resolution of international business and political conflicts by Master Armando Ortega, and on
the 13th we are going to make our annual and traditional Christmas toast. Let
' s discuss the most outstanding twenty- three and prepare for twenty- four,
in which obviously Dr. Maximo Carvajal, Alejandro Andrade, Adrián González And,
well, obviously many of the panelists who are always participating with the intention
of discussing how we see the two thousand twenty- four for foreign customs trade
on the fiscal issue Many thanks to everyone and thanks for being here in the
barter we see next week and have a nice weekend. Thank you, Master,
Thank you, Thank you, Daniela, Thank you learned, very great,
ay doctor, ay congratulations. Silvar to do a hug very affectionate view,
you are already going to pass for people to Donald already reduced it,
because they did to see who happened, what happened. Sixty of a hundred
tummy, but good is that it is that no one managed to have the
eight five then hears, doing little orthodoxy of the laws and regulations, lowered
it to six of a pen, of a pen and to six must have
passed about twenty. The test was very poorly calibrated, with very ambiguous questions
and I think that' s why I' m almost sure that nobody reached
eighty- five because it was a hundred questions and alone and they had to
answer correctly eighty- five. Dr Cimbo, there was someone who passed it
suspiciously or luckily, and I want to make a comment about this doctor.
I decided and even sent a message to someone in the nam not to participate
in the examination when the invitation came to me and I saw that it was
going to be by heart, because I respect too much the activity of linked
with the right to money, with foreign trade, with merciology, and I
have the full knowledge that the people who must be participating as abanal agents are
not those who know themselves as a perico, something that they will not be
able to know, because they will not be able to know, but those
who know. How to interpret, how to read those who have integrity who
know how to carry this wonderful matter. So yes, I sent a message
saying thank you very much, and I even had a medical situation that prevented
me from participating as well. But it was also my message not to lend
oneself something that is one. It' s something that' s incredible.
It' s amazing. I can guarantee you Octavio that neither Enrique, nor
Maximus, nor Antonio, nor Hector nor Daniela would have passed sexamen. I
can guarantee it. Yeah, it' s not him. How can they
ask you about the peaceful trans, the Treaty, what article does x thing,
an article of an international treaty, an article is impossible. I believe
that neither those who made that treaty nor those who made the temex can know
every article per article. Look at me I would like and I would be
like someone I would like academically because apart, they have to be preparing for
the same exam to be given to all those currently working in Anam, all
in the same superior proportunity. But it allows us to close the door that
allows us to do not as an alliance the pa maybe, we change the
question, we will grab another, the CPTPP. No. But yes,
equal and I am sure with all respect, that very few would pass,
very few, even none can. That is because apart it requires the one
engaged in merciology has a special capacity. The treaty- goer has another one.
The one who knows the procedure of nueudo with us, the one who
documents with us, the one who can be an agent to Banal, must
know them all, but in turn has or is good in the end of
here they say they agree. To our friends, no, but that'
s what I' m telling you. When asking these kinds of questions it
was reflected precisely in what you say and I respect your opinion, which happened
some, but to those some that must have been very little and that the
truth I doubt that someone approved it. They' re supposed to have,
because some people came out of there who are famous, and they saw them
and they said they passed. I don' t know the results. No,
well, he says they did. I' m totaling it, but
let' s just leave it to you that it happened a little bit.
It is a reprobation of the test itself, which a few little ones had
more than eight five. That' s why they were reduced not by little
sisters of charity and for having this one more. And in six we'
re going to see if they got to the hundred I' m going to
tell the hundred that they' re supposed to give patents or see if there
' s a hundred with sixty points of the test. There were five hundred
patents they wanted to give. So no. I think they' ll reach
five hundred candidates. It was not the ones who filed n number five hundred
patents that they wanted to give. But on the other hand, the tester
showed a frank knowledge of what the activity that carries out an anal, that
is, has no idea. That' s what I' m saying.
It was with all intent that it would not happen to anyone. But anyway,
look what' s to see is how we help the National Customs Agency
get proscription, because if they ask for that out, they have to have
it inside. So I think we need to see how we help them to
improve their capabilities too, which I' m sure many of us here would,
because many times too, if we don' t have enough capacity,
it generates losses, generates us over time, generates costs, generates fines,
generates inconveniences. Then see how. I think all the doctors help. We
have to put a new ca and a new matter. Doctor at UNAM will
have to stay and offer to some graduates, some specialties, even if it
is free in the spirit of what you say that it can be dignified and
that they can know so that, then, they do not incur deficiencies.
If I would be happy, I' m glad what I know without charging
anything, I think everyone barter would do it because our best investment is them,
because that' s where we have. The best investment we can make
is in that obstacle that exists due not to a bad intention, a lack
of knowledge, possibly of the matter. Then you have to see doctor,
you have to look for how we help you improve your abilities, because we
would be well placed to do so, because we are already several agreements see
goodbye. We' ve reached the end of today' s TRUK. Thank
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