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Hello, It's Tuesday, June the
ninth, twenty fifteen, and you're listening

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to the Giant bomb Cast, the
Internet's one and only audio home for video

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game talking. It is the only
into microphones. It is the only one

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of those. There are no others. This is really the only game in

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there. I know. You would
think someone else would have started a video

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game podcast right now. We have
a patent, right, yes, exactly,

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but system I gave Adam Curry nine
dollars and some hairsprayed. I said,

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cool, all right, we own
the rights to podcasting now. Yeah,

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no one else can podcast about video
games. If you catch any one

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else podcasting about video games and they
don't have a license from us, please

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let us know, let us know, Please, let let us let us

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the authorities handle it. Please do
not take justicines. You're in hands exactly.

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No, that's they are probably if, I mean if if they're willing

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to break those laws, they're they're
lawless. Yeah, they're dangerous. There's

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no, they're very dangerous, vigilanti
pod podcast justice stuff. Probably probably armed.

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They're probably armed. Does nobody in
the good I'm Brad Shoemaker. Jeff

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Gersman, Hello, Drew, scandal. Hello, Dan, one week warning,

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what's going on next week? You
got plans? Next week is when

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I can no longer lean on E
three coming up as the thing to kick

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off the podcast. Oh you start
talking about next year's E three. It'll

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be great after in two weeks we'll
have a podcast. Right E three?

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That was crazy? Right? Oh
man, you're right. Then we can

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ride that out for about a month, two more weeks and this would be

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like, ah, summer barbecue season. Hey yeah yeah, Formula E championships

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wrapping up? Oh yeah? Is
that a video game? Not yet?

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I don't know. I don't know
what to say about it. Then it's

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right, we only talk about it
talk about one subject here. That's how

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the patent is written. I mean, we can only talk about video games.

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It's we probably should have like penned
a little more broaden. Well,

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it works out for me. I
can only keep one subject in my head,

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that's true. So so let's talk
about video games. Huh, Tapper,

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you're serving beers to people, they're
walking in the bars. You're the

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baseball game. It's crazy, right? Are you sure they should let kids

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play? That? I don't know
is a root beer? There's a root

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Beer tapper. There's also butter wise
your tapper. There's also a sun Tory

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tapper. I mean think about it
was like literally branded, right, it

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was literally brand? What is son
Tory? It's a Japanese brand. Okay,

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Oh yeah, so you guys are
saying that word earlier. What does

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that word mean? I hope,
I hope Suntory notices me. It's like

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it's a title. Oh okay,
it's like designed to honor someone honorable.

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Oh yeah, so it's like a
cool title. It's one that you'd brag

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about. Doctor is doctor an honorific? I think it's a it's a script?

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Yeah, okay, but don't I
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sir, you know how people get
knighted? Yeah yeah, Paul McCartney,

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he's legally a sir Peter Maloney,
is it? Sir? Isn't he he's

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an OBI don't know about I believe
I believe he is. I believe he

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did get something. Really people say
Sir Peter Malany a lot like I you

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know, I got nothing against Peter
malan you, but has he really reached

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that echelon? I think that first
tier is actually pretty wide? Okay?

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Is he not actually when you ascend
up to the next one. Okay,

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so is everybody at that. I'm
sure we're getting a million things wrong here,

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but if you that is I just
I just filed the extension to like

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actually say that we are experts in
h anything anything, anything pertaining to any

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part of the United Kingdom, the
crowns honorific system, any part of it

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Ireland, London and Germany, like
whatever parts of the United Kingdom there are,

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we are experts in all. Well, talk to me about German colors.

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Yeah, what is what is the
what are the colors of the German

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flag? Drew, go, U, B and d. Okay, well

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that sounds right. That sounds right
yep to me. So can you kidom

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all knew is an he has an
ob E? So can you Can you

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be an Order of the British Empire? Can you be an O B E

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without being a sir? I think
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be a serve with that? Yeah, that, I'm sure. The opposite

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is the five classes of appointment to
the Order are I'm just reciting this from

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memory. Order Yeah, I thought, yes, the Order of eighteen eighty

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six. It's the sequel's coming out, and you can play as the Night

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Grand Cross or Dame Grand Cross of
the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire.

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That's a g b E Night Commander
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Order of the Knight Empire. That's
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the Most Excellent Order of the British
Empire. That's yeah. Officer of the

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Most Excellent Order of the British Empire. That's O b E. And then

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the bottom is member of the Most
Excellent Order of the British Empire. Bucks

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and got a card MBE. So
which one is Molan New? Obie?

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Oh? Really? Did molk New
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the Queen? Is that still how
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Yes, I'm saying Jagger tap shoulders
the sword tapping. I thought I

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thought it was somebody below the monarch
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It'd be cooler if it was the
Queen, right, Jagger doesn't seem

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like he should be knighted. He's
Mick Jagger. No, I mean like

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he should have like like laughed off
the offer his rebel days are behind him.

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Ye molan New was inducted into the
AIAS Hall of Fame in two thousand

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and four and was honored with an
OBI E in the new Year's Honors list

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announced on the thirty first of December
two thousand and four. So I think

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maybe it might be that people that
are getting into OBE, there's so many

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of them. I assume that there's
so many special effects. Yeah, you

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know, you're not getting tapped by
the queen. You're like you got a

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thing in the mail and you're like, oh fuck, do you get a

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sword? I mean you can get
a sword. I bet there's a sword.

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Do you need a sword? I
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sword. I don't anymore, actually
know I do. I have a big

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like Devil May Cry for a sword. Yeah, but that's my actual like,

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if anybody like breaks into my home, I'm gonna grab with this,

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like not actually sharp sword. I
think it's heavy. Think's got some real

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stopping power to it. You gotta
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the Red Queen. Oh, I
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I had the motorcycle handle on it. Yeah. Yeah, Because I

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have like a battery packet it or
something. No, that's my real plan

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though, if anyone breaks into my
apartment. She put that up against Vinni's

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warhammer like chain saw sword, a
giant heavy one. Well wait a minute,

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no, someone break into your house
talking. I was I slept through

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that? Okay, yeah, all
right, so you're actually actual plan.

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Yeah, i'd sleep through it,
hope for the best runner out in my

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boxers. It's my Dante sword or
is it narrow sword? I think it's

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narrows. Also, I can't get
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Yeah, you wouldn't want to pull
the wrong sword. He's my devil

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bringer, and if they're a beast, you need to get a silver sword.

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True, right, right, careful
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Igny shirt in it. Wait did
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know. It sounds sounds you were
saying that the movement is about. Yes,

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it actually got me excited on PS
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played yesterday a ton on PC and
I didn't feel a big difference. We're

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talking about The Witcher here. In
case anybody was a video game. It

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is The Witcher three. The Witcher
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know the girls is especially O b
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I mean, it's a lot of
people, so so what you did not

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notice the difference and I did not
play it, but but no you you

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said you. I watched you after
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this feels way different and that that
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I'd say, way different, but
it is better. Like the character movement,

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you know, you had you were
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release, and I was like,
maybe it's just something that rubbed him the

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wrong way. But then everybody complained
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like the movements, So I felt
I felt secure in the group. Think

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of that one to year knowledge.
Does this patch also come out for Xbox

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One? I didn't check today.
Actually I was a Friday. It had

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not How about PC? Because yeah
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PS four both got the patch last
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last night. I didn't notice anything. But the movement never bothered me that

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much to begin away. I mean
it's somewhat subtle. It's not not complete

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reworking of it. You know,
there's still a good sort of ramp up

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from standing still to actually moving at
full speed. But it's a little smoother,

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Okay, it's not the like before
you would move the stick and he

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would just kind of stand there rigid
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thought about taking a step. Yeah, and now it's like like he'll turn,

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like his turning radius is tighter,
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of maneuver in tight spaces better,
which, yeah, part of the problem,

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because that's how you loote stuff.
Like right, they're all a lot

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of cases of like three or four
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of each other. And it was
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I'm sure you've done plenty of this. You know. It's a lot of

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just like nudging the stick to try
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Yeah, there's like three sacks and
then a chest right there, so you

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can actually loose like they actually so
they disabled things that you can interact with

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near chests, near like treasure containers. If that tells or anything. They're

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still like that was like they're like, yeah, like handles and stuff.

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I mean, maybe they missed some
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saw in the past fix. They
were like, oh, we made it

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so you can't. You can't interact
with the scandals and stuff in your near

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chest because that's how hard it is
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And I actually noticed some some jankiness
for the first time yesterday, like I

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was doing something with It was specifically
the bloody Baron's daughter in every cut scene,

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every time it cut to her,
she'd be completely bald, and then

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like three seconds have passed and then
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Did you just save a clip of
that effect? Oh? I don't

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know. Does it have tress?
I don't know, does anything. It's

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got hair works, but not on
the not on the console. But I've

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got I've probably got half a dozen
saved clips on the PS four of just

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stupid ass stuff happening. Can you
save Steam? There's some wide things we

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used to do it, but computer
record that No, not not like it's

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not constantly recording in the background,
right, so you know you have you

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have to turn on the recording.
But that is a Steam built in thing,

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that's a third party you can broadcast
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Yeah, I don't know if Steam
markays locally or not. I know,

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you take screenshots and a larchive all
that stuff. You could just run

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like open Broadcaster or something like that
in the background if you wanted to record

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your stuff or that with that that
Nvidio, the Nvidia g Force experience,

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that does what you're looking for.
And that's so that's the big thing about

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Windows ten is that the Xbox App
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Is the Xbox one in it the
Xbox App on PC on Window step,

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Yes, Okay, when does that
come out of July? Yeah,

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that's just announced. Yeah, that's
soon. Yeah, less than two months.

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But yeah, the a big Witcher
patch came out, and yeah,

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I'm super impressed. I mean,
you know, they've CD project has always

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had that reputation of like supporting the
ship out of their game's post release because

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they need it. This doesn't I
mean, this is not the the yeah

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I wasna say. Yeah, it's
the parts that that's impressive about them supporting

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the Witcher is when they revamp large
portions of it and like release all this

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free DLC talking about like what they
did with Witcher two. Yeah, but

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like that the part, the part
where they're fixing a ton of stuff about

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their game immediately as people are playing
through it is sort of a bummer.

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Sure, I didn't you know the
other shoe there is. Yeah, all

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the stuff they fixed so far is
kind of stuff that you wish had just

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been right the first time. And
now it's time for the other shoe with

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your host Brad Shoemaker. All right, there's your new weekly segment, got

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it where you take you take up
an alternative approach to the common h thinking

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around a topic, sort of like
playing Devil's Advoca sort of something like that.

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Yeah, I mean it's uh,
you know, the moving stuff got

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better. The swimming got way better
because it was terrible before. It was

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fucking infuriating. So make it like
I came close to drowning a couple of

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times because he just refused to ascend. I was sitting there holding the like,

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hey, swim to the surface button. What do you see? Just

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didn't What are you supposed to do
when you're like going down to get a

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buried treasure or something and there's like
four drowners and every time you go down,

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they just hit you when you can't
do shit them. I finally just

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like I booked you know, I
held down the swim Faster button and just

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like flew through there and like looted
as fast as I could by hammering the

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X button and then swam the hell
out of the pay because there's no way

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you can't like upgrade anything to attack
underwater. You can, you can shoot

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the crossbow underwater, but that's it. They're like out in the middle of

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the ocean or whatever. So I
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was on the bottom and just hitting
the lute button as fast as you could

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to get the stuff and then getting
out of there. It was the only

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way. That is where moving around
has been a pain in the ass when

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there's gonna be like a canoe at
the bottom with a chest in it and

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I'm getting attacked by drowners and I'm
drowning and I can't get to the thing.

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Yeah, so that the onland and
swimming movement have both gotten better.

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They fixed that shitty quest XP bug
that was kind of actually messing the game

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up for a lot of people.
Yeah, yeah, uh god, I'm

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trying to remember. They change a
lot of stuff and like, yeah,

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again, you know, should have
been that way to begin with. Any

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frame rate improvements on the PS four. It's hard to say. I went

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back into the swamp that's causing the
most problems for everybody, and it still

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sucks. Rain still sucks. Like
it's still definitely bottoms the frame right out

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and spots like that. What are
we talking bottom like twenty or less.

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I've definitely seen some spots where it's
just like hard to play, yeah,

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which is a bummer. Yeah,
I still haven't gotten yet. I don't

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know if I'm gonna get it on
Consolar PC. My PC isn't that great.

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would just wait. And with the
with the rate, yeah, with the

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rate of patches they keep issuing if
you're not like dying to play it right

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now, like it seems like the
longer you wait, the better that game

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will be. Yeah, absolutely,
like it's it's gonna get true, It's

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gonna get more and more refined about
almost every game though, right, I

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mean, well, but that's the
thing though, I mean, yeah,

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there are a lot of bug fixes
and stuff in this. You know,

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they did a lot of things that
are just technical problems that needed to be

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addressed, But like how many developers
would go back and actually like fiddle with

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the way the character moves because people
say, don't like it kill Zone.

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Yeah, I don't know, that's
it like it's it's not. It's not

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a very common thing to see little
touches like that being being addressed. So

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that was nice to see. Yeah, which minute? Or are you back?

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Are you playing a bunch? Yeah? Yes, I got back into

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it pretty heavily over the weekend,
which is a stupid idea because it's now

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we have to leave down for a
ya. It's weird because like most big

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open world games, I feel like
you have some way to gauge kind of

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how far you are in it.
Were like, yeah, Rockstar games,

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you can always see the percentage of
missions or whatever, and like some games

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even have like you've done five out
of twenty nine main story. It's like

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I think Skyrim does that. Whereas
I've put thirty hours into this and I

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feel like I'm barely scratching the surface, Like, oh, I don't know

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if I'm a third of the way
through it or a fifth. You know.

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My sense is where are you still
in Villain? That first big area?

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Now I'm in I'm up in Novgrad
right now. Okay, if that's

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the next area I have to go
to, But I've got so many things

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unfinished in Villain that I'm like,
should I just hang around for another twenty

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hours doing all these side quests?
What I was what I was going to

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do is right around and because I
got all the question marks from that first

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area before I moved on to vellin
the White Orchard are yeah, yeah,

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basically like the tutorial. Yeah,
an eight hour long tutorial area. Yeah,

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and then I was gonna do that
again before I went to Novegrad from

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Villain. But then you realize a
lot of these side things and Villain are

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like required level or recommended levels,
like twenty seven. It's crazy. It's

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like way higher level than you could
possibly be at the time that you picked

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the quest up. Yeah, So
I gave up on the idea of like

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doing all those question marks before I
move on because it's like, Okay,

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this is not going to be possible
at all. So I'm going to keep

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kind of moving the story forward and
doing question marks as they come along in

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tons of side quests. But I
want to do everything and game, so

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I'm expecting kind of you too.
But yeah, that's the thing. It's

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like, do I just commit myself
to Like at this point, I feel

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like I either have to decide,
Okay, it's gonna take me another two

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months to finish this game, or
I just need to ignore a bunch of

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the side stuff. I'm committing to
it because the side stuff is so good.

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So often there's a lot of value
in that stuff. I mean there's

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a lot where it's just like,
oh, place of power, or here's

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a bandit camp or something. But
then there's the occasional thing you run into

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and it's like, oh, this
is more fun than most of the main

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missions I've done. Yeah, Like
I buy and large anything that it has

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a named story quest or not story
quest, but anything that has a named

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quest attached to it, whether it's
like a secondary quest, a witcher contract,

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like even the treasure hunts, like
they're all worth doing. Yeah,

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Like if it shows up in your
quest log, there's some value in it,

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either narrative or like even just a
sword you get out of it or

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whatever. Like there's always a reason
to do it. Like when you go

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to the notice boards, do you
just grab everything because That's what I've been

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doing. Yeah, Yeah, everything, that's everything that is obviously a quest.

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Oh, I grabbed literally everything,
because they will add the question marks

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to your thing, even if it's
not an obvious named quest. If it's

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just something like that, I saw
a creepy thing outside my oh like even

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missing dog or whatever. Yeah,
you grab it and then it'll say like,

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oh, location added to map.
Really and that'll add the question mark

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to the maps. So I thought
only the letters on the noticeboards that you

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know, a bunch of them,
the ones that are like contracts that are

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major quests have a red stamp on
and wax seal looking thing. Yeah,

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yeah, those are I thought those
were the only quests as far as I

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understand. Those are like named like
witcher contracts. Right, I'll show up

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on your quest log, right.
The other ones I think show up as

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questions are just like my dog's missing
or whatever, like yeah, and I

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so some of those are like places
of power or things you would want to

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do, you know. Wow.
So yeah, I just grabbed everything at

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every noticeboard I go to. My
problem for me is just that my inventory

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is just rotten with bullshit at this
point, Like the inventory is everything.

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They though that was another thing they
did, you know, they made like

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a lot of the fonts and kind
of the UI presentation a lot bigger because

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it was something that people were having
problems with, like yeah, you know,

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I said it like ten feet for
my TV. It was straight up

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hard to read some of that stuff. But other than that, the inventory

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UI stuff is a complete mess.
Like it's just why I wish you could

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sort. I wish you could sort
it by weight and things like sporting would

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be huge, like kind of quarantining
certain things, like you know, more

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subcategories would better. You know,
it's like, oh, put all the

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books and notes into a separate page, which you can do in the Alchemy

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thing. You can turn on filters
that are like oh, I only want

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to see the things I can craft
right now. Yeah, but they don't

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have any kind of filters or anything
for like, you know, there's that

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whole books and notes section, and
I didn't know, like, well,

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if I sell or get rid of
all these notes that are clogging everything up,

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that doesn't delete the quest, does
it. So I just I got

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rid of everything. You can keep
the quest and there stuff, but you

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know, sometimes I kind of want
to keep it around in case I want

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to read it later. But but
then, like do you have a limited

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inventor, yes, well not you
have encumbering. So there's there's a weight

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system. I haven't been overencumbered one
time, really, where it's like Skyrim,

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I'm constantly overencumbered. Yeah, but
I'm not one time. I just

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got a thing I can carry up
to one sixty now, oh my god.

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Really Yeah, but even when I
was at ninety, I was at

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ninety for most of the time,
and I never once was over encumbered.

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Encumbrance is not fun. You just
gotta make It's never good. It's like,

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why as long as you're not picking
up every like Mason Blackjack and overgrad

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sword or whatever. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I stopped looting weapons

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from people that were obviously shit,
you know, like it's just yeah.

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And I actually got as a potion
you can craft that gives you, like

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what is it, like, I
can't remember if it's several minutes. I

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didn't look at the time, but
it's a potion that increases your encumbrance limit

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by like a huge number for some
number of minutes. It's clearly a thing.

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It's like, oh, I'm encumbered. I need to get back to

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town and sell stuff. I'm gonna
drink this potion. Skyrom actually have a

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spell that you can tap a button
and then you're not over encumbered. Although

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this thing, like it raises your
toxicity to one hundred percent when you drink

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it, so like you're not gonna
go often do combat while that's active.

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But like it's weird. It's like
you put an in world work around for

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your own encumbered system into the game, like maybe just get rid of the

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encumbrance. I don't really understand what
the value is there. Are you keeping

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how much like bear pelts and wolf
pelts and stuff, because I guess the

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thing pelts are really heavy. Like
I finally I'm finally at the point now

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where I'm like, all right,
I'm gonna stop looting everything I find and

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I'm going to figure out what what
are the main offenders here that are really

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weighing me down and maybe stop getting
so many of those. Is there any

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kind of like player housing or like
that's the stories like off character storage or

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zero like stationary storage in the game. Although some people have said that the

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lout never goes away that you drop, I haven't verified that, Like some

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people were saying, like oh yeah, I went to like the bloody Baron's

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bedroom and use that as my stockhouse
or storehouse, so you can just go

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to his like cabinet and just throw
or even on the ground pelts. Right,

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honey, Why are there these pellets
come from? Why are there thirty

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seven notes and books stacked in the
corner here? Yeah, Like, apparently

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you can do stuff like that,
or at least some people have told me

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that Skyriom was actually all the Elder
Scrolls have been good about that, to

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where you can just like go to
a town and just throw it clothes on

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the ground and they're just gonna be
there for But I think it did again

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supposedly does work that way, but
it's still yeah, it's still just makes

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for a lot of kind of tedious
busy work that gets in the way of

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actually playing the game. And I
don't love that aspect of it. But

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you know, the rest off it's
really good. Yeah, it's it's an

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incredible game. Yeah. Are you
gonna pay any more of it? I

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mean yeah, sure, probably.
I don't know, like at this point

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or if you're not that into it, maybe give it a couple of months.

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I mean, I mean, at
this point, E three is gonna

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force you know, some amount of
time for me to not play it and

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then yeah, well we'll see what
happens after we get back. Yeah,

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well, what have you been playing? What have I been playing? Let's

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see, Well, I've been messing
with Marvel Heroes where the loot said they

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don't do encumbrance, but it's a
limited number of slots. Well, Captain

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America is like the strongest man in
the wind, right, so he wouldn't

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have any problem. No, So
it's it's actually it's shared inventory across all

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your characters in your inventor, like
when you question press I. But there's

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a stash where you can put stuff, but you have to like basically spend

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real money to buy extra tabs of
stash and in a lot of cases,

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and that's a little frustrating that whole
system. I feel like they could totally

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overhaul how the stash works because it's
clunky. But I don't know. They're

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having some kind of anniversary events.
So I logged into that for a little

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bit and didn't see Like people were
like, oh, you should log in,

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you get a free character, and
I'm like, I logged in and

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didn't see anything to that, and
I was like, all right, well

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whatever anniversary of the game launching.
Yeah, yeah, I think it's been

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a couple of years now, but
whatever. I so, okay, I

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have I have an announcement to make
here. I know this is we have.

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We have gone back and forth on
this topic for years now, years,

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like the last seven or eight years. We have devoted hours of our

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lives to debating this hot topic.
Sus patient's killing me. What is it?

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I can confirm right now for you
today here. Huh. Fortnite is

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a video game. Wow, it's
not where I thought you were going with

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that. That's Fortnite is a video
game. But you're going to tell me

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something about Calf's shield or something.
Nope, Fortnight is a video game.

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Okay, how do you know this
because I played it where not in this

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town? What mode did you play? Uh? It is a mode.

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It was a I don't know.
I played the early parts of the game,

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which, yes, what's Fortnite?
That is still kind of a good

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question. It's okay, hang on, it's a video game, okay,

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Okay, that I can wrap my
head right. So it's so it's a

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little bit of building and it's a
lot of like base defense from AI enemies.

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Okay, that's that's more starting off
with a stick and a rock and

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a loin cloth kind of sort of
not really, You're you're kind of starting

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with your base that is not necessarily
a gameplay location, but you're at your

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base. You're kind of unlocking additional
character classes there and building you know,

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different buildings there. But it's not
like you're clicking a box to put a

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building on a spot. You're not
like, okay, physically building a building.

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So it's not Minecraft. No,
not in that sense. Not there

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not at that point is it Minecraft. No, so's it's not a persistent

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world per se. So you're in
a match, yeah, yeah, you

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are. You are joining a level
with in this case, there's three other

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players twenty minute, uh, and
then the four of you are Yeah,

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I mean so you they had is
going into these kind of like areas.

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We have kind have to close a
portal. So the first thing you have

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to do is find the portal,
or not necessarily the first thing, but

406
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you need to find the portal and
then trigger it. And once you trigger

407
00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:57.839
it, waves of enemies will attack
the portal for a set amount of time.

408
00:22:57.880 --> 00:23:02.599
You have to fight them off without
portal blowing up to win Okay,

409
00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:06.960
you are as players cooperating, Yes, but if you just walk to the

410
00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:08.359
portal and say let's go, you're
fucked. Like it's you know, you

411
00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:11.400
can't. You have to build defenses
such it's just too hard. Yeah,

412
00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:14.680
No, it's just there's too many
enemies. There's too many. You know,

413
00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:17.079
if they walk into the portal,
they do damage to it and disappear.

414
00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:18.599
It's not like they stand there necessarily
swiping at it. It's like they

415
00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:22.359
are constantly doing Actually, they might
actually swipe at it. I've been playing

416
00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:26.880
a lot of different games lately.
It's kind of hard to keep and like

417
00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:30.200
what so you buile of games,
Like it's been so long I can't even

418
00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:33.000
remember if it's a first person shooter
or if there's a third person action.

419
00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:41.240
It's a third person action games and
weapon range weapons, you have tools,

420
00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:45.279
so basically you're you're kind of starting
out like there's some persistence with your character.

421
00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:48.400
You're you're leveling up. The tools
and inventory on your person are carrying

422
00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:51.720
from match to match. So if
you craft a good gun, at some

423
00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:56.319
point, you're gonna have it.
But basically you're you're being dropped into this

424
00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:00.240
world and then you have to go
mind resources. Uh, you know by

425
00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:04.400
hitting trees with a stick or hitting
rocks with a stick and then upgrading your

426
00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:08.359
stick to an axe so that you
can hit the trees better or pick axe

427
00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.079
you can, Yes you can,
Yes, you can swing a stick at

428
00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:15.559
cars and then parts will come out
of the cars. Uh. They've got

429
00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.200
a mechanic with the swinging where like
a little after you land your first hit,

430
00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:22.480
an icon will appear on the item
and you So it's kind of active

431
00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:26.160
swinging, active swinging, so you're
not necessarily you're getting bonus damage if you

432
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:30.920
are aiming at those targets, or
you can just hold down the button uh

433
00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:34.680
and just let it do its do
its work the slow way. But yeah,

434
00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.799
so you're you're getting all these resources
that then you use to either craft

435
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.480
items for yourself, like Okay,
I need some duct tape and I need

436
00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:42.160
some of this, and I need
some of this to build a shotgun,

437
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:47.079
and then I need this to craft
AMMO for the shotgun. Uh. And

438
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:48.279
you know, kind of going down
that path, you're like, hey,

439
00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:51.359
I need a sword, so I
crafted a sword, but you need the

440
00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:53.359
blueprints before you can craft. And
that's stuff that comes out of card packs

441
00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:57.480
that you buy for real money or
some other stuff. Is this free to

442
00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:02.559
play? I'm fairly certain of that. They haven't going for sure, I

443
00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:04.960
don't think they they they said that. I think they've been kind of open

444
00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:08.960
to kind of like, hey,
we're not They've they've been good about not

445
00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:15.039
talking about Fortnite. But I guess
when when I it was like a year

446
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.440
and a half ago, though I
did that GI things for it, I

447
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:19.279
went out to Epic and they were
saying it was free to play then.

448
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:22.599
Yeah, because I remember asking a
lot of questions about how they were going

449
00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.960
to make I feel like every time
we've asked them about like the business thing,

450
00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:27.519
they're like, hey, we're just
developing it, man, we'll see

451
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:30.839
what happens. Like it's it sounded
very holistic, and they'll see where the

452
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:34.279
design takes them. Yeah, they
were very cagy about how they were going

453
00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:37.400
to make money off it, but
they were pretty clear that it was going

454
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.559
to be all right. Maybe that
maybe that's how it was then, and

455
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:42.880
since then they've rolled out you know, the Unreal tournament stuff with the player

456
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:47.839
run store or the store that players
can sell user made items for money and

457
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:52.480
all that other stuff. Paid mods. It's weird who thought so maybe they'll

458
00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:56.359
do something along those lines fortnit as
well. But anyway, yeah, you

459
00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.640
you then can also use those same
resources to build a fort. So you

460
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:04.240
basically get to the portal and build
a fat ford around it. Like are

461
00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:07.640
you literally placing walls? You are
building? There isn't for there's a three

462
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.440
nothing there. Okay, you find
a portal and a fuck all right,

463
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.880
this we got to defend this thing. It looks like the storm is coming

464
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.160
from this direction, so that's probably
where the enemies will come come. So

465
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:22.160
let's build our fort that away.
And then once you feel that you've build

466
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:25.640
a substantial fort, you and the
other three players going all right, let's

467
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:29.519
fucking let's do this. Are they
frequently leaning on the word fort No,

468
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:32.480
Like it's not really okay, there's
not some like huge play on words with

469
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:34.000
the name of the game or something. Well, I mean you're you're you're

470
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:38.920
you're building a fort. Yes,
materials, you know, you're it's the

471
00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.920
fort. You're building steps like you're
it's all pre fat stuff. Yeah,

472
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:47.000
it's the wall building still that three
by three grid and so like you're gonna

473
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:49.480
make a window, you can just
knock out that middle line and you can

474
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:52.480
make it a door. Yeah.
It's not like individual like parts like my

475
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:57.359
dropping a block nothing to to build
it. It's like you're building a a

476
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.680
wall and then if you want a
door to be in that wall, you

477
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.359
can say put a door here and
it will do it. Which is kind

478
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:06.160
of cool because you can build a
fort like a pretty big four pretty quick

479
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:08.680
people. Like it's pretty easy to
get four people that have like properly mined

480
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:14.359
resources and to do it. Now
are you not? Are you? Are

481
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:15.759
you doing this with any urgency?
Is it like you have X you have

482
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.119
five minutes till the first wave?
I want to say, I think there's

483
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:21.559
a speed bonus for like, so
there's a day night cycle, and I

484
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:22.880
think it's it's the situation where like
if you, hey, if you finish

485
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:27.119
this level by the end of night
three, you'll get more stuff. Okay,

486
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.440
but do you do You basically get
to build until you're ready and then

487
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:32.880
hit a button then it goes okay. Yeah, then someone walks up to

488
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:36.880
the portal hits go, and then
that starts the waves coming at you.

489
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:38.799
You've got a little bit of time
between waves, but it's pretty standard stuff

490
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.400
at that point, you know,
you're shooting these zombies. You know,

491
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:47.000
they've got kind of wacky looks to
them a little bit. I remember being

492
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.759
pretty fun to make the traps where
it's like you could build like a flinger

493
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.680
thing here, so if husks or
whatever walk on it, it flings them

494
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:53.920
up to the air. Or you
can put up like spike walls and stuff,

495
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.599
so you can set up these more
elaborate like Okay, this thing is

496
00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:00.519
going to fling into this spike ceiling
or whatever, but it only trigger every

497
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.279
so often. So I like,
we built this really elaborate fort and with

498
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:06.720
all these traps and all this other
stuff, and then just we stood in

499
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:08.000
front of the fort and hit them
with sticks until they were done. So

500
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.039
I mean, obviously you're gonna have
more. So the you know, there

501
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.880
are levels that will have multiple portals
going at the same time, so you

502
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.319
have to build a fort that encompasses
both of them and then kind of split

503
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:19.519
your like figure out like, Okay, is there a way we can funnel

504
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.200
all these guys down one pathway so
we can deal with them all at once,

505
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.599
or are we gonna have to you
know, have two people over here

506
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.079
garden the lower one, two people
up top that sort of thing. You

507
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.079
know, different characters with different skill
trees and stuff like that. It's like,

508
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:34.759
you know, ones that are better
at kind of constructing, you know,

509
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:37.920
Ninjas, all that sort of stuff, like kind of going for like

510
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:45.920
a fun art style. The maps
uh generated in any way, I M.

511
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.759
I don't know for sure. There
were people when we got into our

512
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:51.839
second map they looked at and went
like, oh man, that's crazy,

513
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.599
So I think they might be generated. But also it's hard to say that

514
00:28:55.720 --> 00:29:00.880
they've been running like limited time kind
of alpha test here and there and then

515
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.880
taking the game around and letting people
look at it for an hour or two

516
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.640
for kind of a long time.
And I get the impression that this version

517
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:10.400
we played was not the most recent
version, and there was a bunch of

518
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.960
stuff that it even happened since they
had that build together that they were like,

519
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.359
oh man, this stuff is this
stuff is old to us now.

520
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:19.680
But but hey, did you see
any of that hex grid kind of that

521
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:22.200
helb world before you go into it
that I'm talking about. That's where you

522
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:26.240
you pluck on your buildings and uh
and pick your level and all that sort

523
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.640
of stuff. Okay, that might
be different from when I played it because

524
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:32.960
yeah, the hex thing, I
thought that was randomly generated, so like

525
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.880
you might go from the snowy area
to the suburban area where maybe that's generated.

526
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.720
But yeah, you're getting kind of
a yeah, they opened up everything

527
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:42.359
for us to like pick with what
our second level was. So it was

528
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.960
just like here's this completed kind of
hex grid. It's like, okay,

529
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.160
do we want a city level?
Do we want a suburb's level. Let's

530
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:49.759
let's find a city level that has
one more than one portal and try that

531
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:53.720
one out. Yeah. I don't
know, man, It like it was

532
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.359
fun, it's kind of cool.
I had a good time playing it in

533
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:02.920
a cooperative fashion, but I don't
know how much I would stick with it

534
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:04.960
based on what I saw there.
I mean it sounds like they have a

535
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.000
lot more to go, but but
I mean a lot more to show or

536
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:14.079
a lot more to develop both,
I think. So let's yeah, how

537
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.440
does it look? Because in my
mind this game is still the Gears of

538
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:18.880
War of Unreal Engine four, where
it's like, all right, Epic is

539
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.119
gonna make their game with the new
UB before anybody else. But but like

540
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.200
that ship sailed a long time ago, because like numerous UB four games around

541
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.400
the market already. So no,
this isn't like some technical like artistically,

542
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:32.039
it's like I'm almost like a t
F two sort of thing where it's got

543
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:36.640
a very distinctive kind of, you
know, slightly cartoonish art style to it.

544
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:41.319
Yeah, since Overdrive not not really, it doesn't have that kind of

545
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:48.359
attitude to it. I think that's
exaggerated. Yeah, cartoon. And then

546
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.759
you know the walls you're putting up
and stuff look a little ramshackle, look

547
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:53.599
a little like I also put a
metal wall here. Let's put this,

548
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:56.960
you know, it's like the contraptions
look a little goofy like, you know,

549
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.559
it's got that kind of look to
it. Did you see any of

550
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.880
the destruction stuff to where I remember
like in the downtown area I played,

551
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.319
I knocked out all of the lower
floors, walls and like the whole like

552
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.039
building will collapse if you do that. No, not really. I mean

553
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:12.519
you could knock down whatever wall you
wanted and stuff like that. And I

554
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.759
was certainly mining a lot of minerals, but you know, maybe I didn't

555
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.519
take out the right supports or something
like that. But there were some like

556
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:19.640
three story buildings or whatever where I
was doing that, and you know,

557
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:22.480
they said, oh, you should
try this out, try knocking out all

558
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:23.079
the walls, and sure, and
I would take down the whole thing.

559
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:27.160
Yeah, No, that's that did
not happen in the hour or so that

560
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:32.319
I played physical stuff. It's not
really physically, it's not like red faction

561
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:36.160
or anything. It's more like like
the whole building will stay up if even

562
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.400
one wall or staircase or something is
connected to the ground. Yeah, and

563
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.559
so you know, as soon as
you think out that last one, right,

564
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:42.160
get out of there, and it's
all going to do it kind of

565
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:48.519
canned collapse animation. How long are
the rounds? I think it depended on,

566
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.519
like we it depends on how long
you spend building really, you know,

567
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:55.920
I think you could spend forty four, like forty five minutes on a

568
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.640
level if you wanted to, maybe
longer, which is fun because like you

569
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:01.000
can if if you want to go
like way overboard, you can make like

570
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:05.000
a super crazy fort, like you
know, just a giant one that reaches

571
00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.519
in the sky and everything with a
ton of defenses and everything, and then

572
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:09.640
you hit the button and yeah,
actually everybody have to hit the button,

573
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:16.079
No one guy, just right now. But I think like my big disconnect

574
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:19.440
in that game is like, yeah, yeah, you could build this big

575
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.559
elaborate fort, but it's going to
disappear as soon as you finished the level.

576
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.559
Yeah, so like nothing like it. You know, like I don't

577
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.920
know, people are gonna be min
maxing it very quickly. It's just like,

578
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.480
let's throw the thing whatever we can
get, throw it together. Is

579
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:34.759
the fastest the design to build this
fort and go. I remember it was

580
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.480
rewarding though, when you like you
want to do something elaborate, because like

581
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.000
we built a fort near this huge
cliff side once and we tried to do

582
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:44.359
a thing where it's like let's just
build flingers, so any husts that come

583
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.160
by or whatever, it'll fling into
another flinger and then fling everyone off the

584
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:49.240
edge of this cliff. And then
we all got up in the fort and

585
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:51.880
press the button and we watched and
it mostly worked, like you know,

586
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:53.440
eighty percent of the hust that ran
in just got thrown off the edge.

587
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:55.759
Like the end, it's overs Okay, So as you're saying there's more,

588
00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:00.240
there's a room for creativity here beyond
just like let's funnel everything into a show

589
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:01.680
point and then shoot it for sure. I mean you can see the two

590
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.759
sure, but yeah, yeah,
I don't know, man, It's it's

591
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.079
uh yeah, Like for me,
it seemed like, yeah, you could

592
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:12.559
spend a lot of time like that. That's where it broke for me in

593
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.960
a lot of different ways. It's
like, okay, like I when I

594
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:17.319
build stuff in like a Minecraft game
or something like that, there's a permanence

595
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.160
attached to that of like, you
know, I can load back into this

596
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:22.519
thing and hey, look at this
cool thing we all got together and built

597
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:28.119
it down. Well yeah, exactly, that's that's what you're hopeful. But

598
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.640
it's the circle of life. Yeah, But like this idea that like,

599
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:35.440
hey, you're just like building this
thing as a temporary set up to beat

600
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.960
this level. Like I mean,
obviously the game's gonna have more modes and

601
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.359
stuff, so I wonder, you
know, what where they'll go with it.

602
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.880
But from what they've showed so far, like that's that's my big sticking

603
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:47.039
point. It's just like, well, wait a minute, Like you have

604
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:51.279
all these things in here that I
can build, uh, and you know,

605
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:57.559
we could build these elaborate, cool
looking like structures, but they're just

606
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.279
fucking gone. It's like, well, what why, you know, just

607
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.720
give me a I'm gonna build a
big box and then put some traps around

608
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:06.440
this part of the box and then
wall off this part and so that they

609
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.599
go this way instead and handle it. You know, they just didn't seem

610
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:12.679
like it could be a good reason
to like fully engage with all the building

611
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.320
tools. You know, it's on
them to come up with like types of

612
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:17.519
waves and enemy combinations and stuff where
you can't just get away with it.

613
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.039
Yeah, did they did? They
tached on PvP at all? No,

614
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.320
Okay, when I played that,
that was very rough and it's just kind

615
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:27.119
of like a concept thing, but
there is PvP. Yeah, yeah,

616
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.960
they kind of mentioned that they were
still working on some stuff like that,

617
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.079
but yeah, yeah. The one
I played is super basic. It's like

618
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:35.920
each side, it's like five on
five. Each side had like a unicorn

619
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:37.559
rocking horse that you had to protect, and so like, you know,

620
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:42.159
you would get people whose job it
was to hang back and protect your rocking

621
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:44.840
horse and build a base around it, and then you'd have like ninjas and

622
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:46.559
stuff going off to try to destroy
the other teams rocking horse and weird.

623
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:50.079
It was super basic, but I
remember being super fun. Did just have

624
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.599
penetrated the fort exactly. Yeah,
those those flingers, you can build them

625
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:54.599
for your own team too. So
you need to get around your base,

626
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:58.079
or I need to get up top
here. You can put a little uh

627
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.679
you know, jump pad down there
and in the enemy variety thing I remember

628
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.800
being pretty cool in that. Let's
say you build a ton of ground offenses

629
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.760
around your base, but then you've
got some higher up levels that aren't quite

630
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:09.280
as defended. Yeah, there are
some husts that are like you know,

631
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:13.880
toss or husts or something they're called, and they will throw other husts up

632
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:15.960
to the top so they can get
in and get down and you know,

633
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.840
destroy the Yeah. I don't know
if we saw anything like that, but

634
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:22.840
yeah, it's uh sounds kind of
cool. I would try it there.

635
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:27.559
Yeah, yeah, I think it's
it's neat, but yeah, like it.

636
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.480
It's I feel like that there's got
to be some large bit to it

637
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:37.519
that hasn't necessarily been shown, because
it's just it just seemed like that some

638
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:44.960
kind of meta game level. So
you're stuff is your is your base?

639
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:46.599
Well yeah, you know, and
that's where you're plopping down buildings and you're

640
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:51.679
you're getting resources by winning these levels
to come back and build or upgrade,

641
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:55.719
like you're you're taking you're getting troops
that you're then assigning to buildings as like

642
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.800
you're the manager of this building.
So now you get twenty percent more of

643
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.039
this, you know, like stat
bonuses based on how you kind of are

644
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:06.639
putting different people to work in your
fort or in your base or in your

645
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:09.000
city. I don't know what the
actual name for that is, but I

646
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:12.440
don't know. So that is kind
of a larger game to it. But

647
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.119
that's not like you're not running around
an area and building that part. You're

648
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.199
just kind of right clicking on stuff
and going like, we need more storage.

649
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.119
So here it is. And that
sounds like a free to play game

650
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.480
to me. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure they say anything about

651
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.800
platform release plans and consoles, still
playing it on the PC. I imagine

652
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.360
that thing will definitely come to consoles
with a controller, But now we're playing

653
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.360
on most and keyboard. But you
know, like you you the crafting and

654
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.679
stuff like that I think would be
slightly cumbersome with a controller, but not

655
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.719
out of the question. Crazier more
cumbersome games than that have been brought to

656
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:47.760
game pads. Sure, yeah,
yeah, I mean I think at this

657
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.079
point, like that thing's been like
off in whatever weird land where they've been

658
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:57.760
making that game now for ever,
that they're probably just like, let's get

659
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.000
it done on PC and then worry
about whatever else for its Holy shit,

660
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:04.920
it was the last game this shift, was it yours three judgment? No,

661
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.400
they didn't, would have been after
three. Well, but those also

662
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.119
those people can fly if that was
not I mean, I know Epic touched

663
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:13.679
it in some ways, but well
it's well bull Stormers than them too,

664
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:15.159
I guess, yes, yeah,
like has That's what I meant, like

665
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:20.400
Epic proper people can fly. I
was just doing like maybe multiplayer or something.

666
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.119
Yeah, because that was another one
I went out. I mean,

667
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:27.119
the fact that they were showing it
an Epic doesn't mean that I went out

668
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:29.960
there. Erson was doing the presentations. Oh no, yeah, I mean

669
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:31.960
he yeah, he was like the
guy like running that game or whatever,

670
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:37.400
like the the guy that you were
interviewing for that ye, you know,

671
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:39.360
like a couple of high level Epic
guys of course would be. That's that's

672
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:42.679
what they had showing it at E
three also, But I think that that

673
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.719
game came out of people can fly. Yeah, that's my understanding for sure.

674
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:50.119
Like I don't think Epic proper has
fully developed and ship. I mean,

675
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.639
this new Unreal tournament is them.
Well yeah, you know too.

676
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.320
But saying they didn't put out a
game in a while, yeah, well,

677
00:37:55.480 --> 00:38:00.079
I mean they're they're all engine licensing
company. You know. Because so

678
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:05.239
history has been made this day.
It's true. We now let it be

679
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:07.559
Let it be known. We have
at least a tenuous grasp on what Fortnite

680
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.920
is. Let it be known.
Fortnite is a video game. It will

681
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:13.159
presumably come out one day and you'll
be able to play it. I don't

682
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.000
want to go that far. Okay, so I get ahead of ourselves.

683
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:22.280
Jeff, did you play anything else? I know, no, no,

684
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:27.159
nothing, I've been playing. Look
at this E three calendar. Yeah,

685
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.760
on schedule appointments onto this E three
calendar. I've got the platinum trophy in

686
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.199
that one. Yeah, I mean
yes, I mean you've definitely been you

687
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:36.039
know, you've been doing the heavy
lifting on a lot of that. You

688
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:40.440
and Alex Alex deep into it,
uh, going back and forth. But

689
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:44.719
then there's a bunch of stuff that
I have to schedule for myself specifically,

690
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.840
and weird judge stuff. Yeah,
it's all that weird shit, so E

691
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:52.599
three man, Yeah, like coming
Like I looked at my schedule, it's

692
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.440
actually like kind of fucked at the
show. Uh, there's there's kind of

693
00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:00.000
like normally I feel like I have
like larger of time to just kind of

694
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.679
get around the show floor and see
other stuff. Not this year, man.

695
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.480
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot
of stuff booked at the same time.

696
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:13.159
I don't know how I feel about
things, like just existentially, like

697
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:15.119
like I just I mean, I
mean, like what to expect out of

698
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:19.519
the show. Oh sure, yeah, Like I just I don't know.

699
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.199
I hope. There's a lot of
stuff at press conferences. Yeah, like

700
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.000
that's not of course, that's not
stuff we would be aware of. Like,

701
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:29.119
yeah, stuff show floor appointments we
book would not give us any real

702
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.119
insight into what's happening in press conferences
because to their separate things and also the

703
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:37.079
things that the press conferences are often
not shown in playable for booking appointment for

704
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.360
them, they're often not far enough
along to be showable, or they're just

705
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:44.599
not you know, they're choosing not
to yet, right, Yeah, Like

706
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:46.840
the I'm trying to think, like
what the EA appointment was last year,

707
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:51.440
right of, like, like,
what was the big stuff at EA last

708
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:52.800
year? After the press conference?
It was just it was pretty much just

709
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:58.239
they had Battlefield Hardline running and which
I had already seen prior to the show.

710
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.400
And then it was Dragon Age.
I played Dragon It, Yes,

711
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.239
but I want to say that was
the only thing at EA that I did

712
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:10.199
that was like, let's go play
an unreleased game that is not a sports

713
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:15.159
game. Yeah, despite the fact
that they announced a whole bunch of cool

714
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.039
stuff. Generally, I think the
general rule of thumb is like, is

715
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:21.440
it coming out this year? Yes, Okay, then it'll probably be in

716
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:22.920
the booth in some form. But
if it's but if it's like, oh,

717
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:24.760
it's at least a year and a
half away, if it's going to

718
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.440
be a next holiday game, then
there's a very good chance it's not going

719
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.119
to be represented on the floor.
And like, you know, like Microsoft

720
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:34.719
was just like wheeling out one announcement
after another last year, and I was

721
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:37.039
like, crackdown, Fantom, dust, scale down, you know, and

722
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:38.639
then none of those things are in
the booth because they barely exist, right

723
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:42.599
yeah, yeah, beyond like business
deals. And so now you hope that

724
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:45.119
like they make good on all of
those things in some form, right,

725
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:50.440
But I don't know and see some
of that stuff. But there will probably

726
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:54.480
be announcements they think and hope.
Let's let's say they would better be announced.

727
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:59.519
Yes, yeah, yes, all
right, Drew, Yes, what

728
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:01.800
has happened? Oh? You know? Oh I don't know. That's why

729
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:05.320
I asked, do you want to
hear about video games? Do you want

730
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.079
to hear about non video games?
I don't know what you got. I

731
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:14.239
discovered a new sport. Okay,
no, dude, Soccer has existed for

732
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:16.599
generations, and it's not a sport. It's I mean, it's they No,

733
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:20.639
they play play it outside of the
United States, right, but here

734
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:25.920
it's not technically No. No,
our sports invented are discovered that they're discovered

735
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:29.079
by me when I don't know about
them. I think they're discovered and then

736
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:32.800
they're invented. Okay, what is
this new sport? Uh? It is

737
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:37.639
a so all right? So I
was at a barbecue in hell and hollow

738
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.559
in beautiful Golden Gate Park. Wait, is that really a part of going

739
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:44.559
Yes? It always weirds me out
that there are all these little subdivisions of

740
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.599
Golden Gate Park because to me,
it's just Golden Gate Park. There's a

741
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:52.199
part with buffalo. Yeah, yeah, buffalo. And I'm sure that field

742
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:53.079
with the buffalo and it has a
name, but I don't know what it

743
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:55.000
is. I just running around.
I saw, damn buffalo. It's the

744
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:58.679
Buffalo Zone. I ran by it
and it says it says, there's some

745
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:04.480
sign theres is like kept up or
donated by or money. Contributed to by

746
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:09.320
Marissa Mayer of Yahoo. Yes,
oh ye. So the only bar San

747
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:14.800
Francisco moment, The only the only
like geographical touchstone in Golden Gate Park that

748
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:21.440
I can remember is the hill with
the big drum circle. Anybody lands end,

749
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:27.960
No, it's like toward the hate
Ashbury and yeah, there's just a

750
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.400
constant huge drum circle going on.
There is a wind. Yeah, it's

751
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:34.880
like that. It's like that.
It's like that oil or coal fire,

752
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:37.280
the fires that never go out right
fires, the drum strum circle that never

753
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.920
stops. You should bring a hacky
sack over there and see if you can

754
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:44.639
break up their drum circle. Maybe, so, hey, anybody want a

755
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:47.239
hack and then to start like kicking
the ball. I mean a lot of

756
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:52.840
people with drums talking, but all
of them like Hackey sat talking like dozens.

757
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.559
I like. I like drums,
yeah, drum circles, no,

758
00:42:55.800 --> 00:43:00.440
okay, drums that you play with
your hands. I mean I think like

759
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.719
some bongos, like a congo drum
like, nothing wrong, They've got their

760
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.400
place. Yeah yeah, what about
a duck playing the drums not into it?

761
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.000
I could get how many that's not
real. How many cars of Donkey

762
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:14.400
conga bongo drums do you have in
your house? None? I don't think.

763
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:16.199
I don't know any Yeah. Wow, that game was lame. I

764
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:22.239
have that tie of a PS two
Tycho drum master controller though, because that

765
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.800
game is good. Yeah, that's
a good one. I have no thick

766
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:28.079
drums anymore, sold their Rock brand
ones or no, I give it to

767
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:31.199
Goodwill. Here you go. I
have three sets of video of like those

768
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:35.199
types of video game drums. I
thought that good Will stopped taking. Rock

769
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.119
stopped taking at one point. I
think it was when I was moving.

770
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.239
I tried to get rid of my
guitars and they literally would not take that

771
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:44.960
for free from me. That's so
incredible. Yeah, yeah, that's how

772
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.639
much people wanted to expunge plastic instruments
from their lives. There's like a whole

773
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:52.039
section of good will where there's just
like forty guitars. Man, I went

774
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.480
to my good will and there wasn't
anything like that. I was looking for

775
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:58.360
video games to see if they had
anything, and then there was like one

776
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:00.119
Nintendo game. It was like a
game cube game off in the corner that

777
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:05.320
they wanted way too much money for
loneliest game. My sister wanted rock Band

778
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:09.320
three for we last Christmas, and
my mom emailed me because she could only

779
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:14.079
find it for like one hundred and
seventy dollars or something on Amazon. This

780
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:16.719
was last Christmas, rock Band three
on the original we right, and she

781
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:19.400
was about to buy it, and
I had to try to talk her out.

782
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:21.800
Please do not do this. You'd
be better off. You'd be better

783
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:23.599
off buying like you used three sixty
and that version of rock Band three.

784
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:27.880
Yeah, yeah, right, there's
Craigslist or something because it's some weird Amazon

785
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:31.000
thing. But that's all say.
It's sealed copies of games on of old

786
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:35.280
games. Maybe this was used,
Oh it was, yeah, Okay,

787
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:37.880
it was just like they were like
two available and it was just some stupid

788
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:39.440
thing. Right, it's just not
much Amazon will sun Bends. Yeah,

789
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:43.960
I was well it's not Amazon's third
party sellers coming and go. Yeah,

790
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:45.920
I was. I was trying to
wise there are no copies. Yeah,

791
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:49.400
I was trying to find a copy
of a DVD that came out nine years

792
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:52.159
ago and obviously hasn't been printed again
since then. And yeah, Amazon,

793
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:57.719
whoever was selling it through Amazon,
had one sealed copy for four hundred dollars.

794
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:04.519
I don't want to say it's Transformers
the movie. I just wanted to

795
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.519
have it the cartoon. Yes,
okay, there's a two disc additions that

796
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:10.599
came out, Yeah, like almost
a decade ago. I might have that.

797
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:15.480
I just I haven't seen that movie
in like fifteen years or something.

798
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:19.440
I just kind of wanted fair enough
to peace of my childhood, tell us

799
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.639
about your park adventure. So I'm
there, I with some friends barbecuing in

800
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:27.119
helmet and hollow, okay, which
sounds like you should be beside a thicket.

801
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:37.119
Uh. And I saw these people
with foam swords and shields beating the

802
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:39.599
the Jesus out of each other,
right, like trying to like cause harm

803
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:43.039
or like like swinging up for the
fences, or they just doing like a

804
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.719
little tab larpee stuff. I mean
it was larpee stuff can be both,

805
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:51.960
but they were really Kate, you're
just like Larpe, like your life depended

806
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.000
on it. This is basically like
that's basically what I ran into. So

807
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:58.679
it was way cooler than like normal, like we're just gonna say numbers and

808
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:01.519
pretend to throw stuff at right lightning
bolt, etc. So I went up

809
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:06.840
to them and talked to this guy
and I actually periscoped it, so if

810
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:10.599
you could probably go watch that.
Actually someone archived it to YouTube and posted

811
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:15.000
that and I put it on my
tumbler. But if you use like a

812
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:20.760
whirlwind of services and products all coming
together, and then I tweeted about it.

813
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:23.840
So it started with a Twitter product, went through nine different services and

814
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:27.639
then at the end, Yeah,
did you post it your LLO page?

815
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.280
Oh I gotta do that. Oh
my god, I forgot the thing exists.

816
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:34.400
I'm on I'm on LLO. I
mean I've got an account, I

817
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:39.320
got my name, but but you
use it. I barely used Twitter.

818
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:43.800
Have you been back on there since
you signed up? Once? Okay?

819
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:46.440
Like an emails. It sounds like
they're doing things to the service anyway.

820
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:51.239
Anyway, anyway, not really like
this is Larpe but only the combat.

821
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.800
So are they like trying to like
large, like are they talking. It's

822
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:59.599
no, it's not at all.
They just got bump swords and they're fucking

823
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:02.159
hitting each Yeah, I mean you
can. You could cosplay if you wanted

824
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:07.000
to. There are a couple of
people dressed in packs ish garb uh.

825
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:15.400
It's a great term for any of
Yeah, I mean it's like it's vocatiately

826
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:21.440
talking about foam around your body is
a little too thick, kind of painted

827
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.280
on colors. Yeah, some some
of that stuff, but like there's no,

828
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:29.840
you're not counting hit points or anything. It's just hey, you and

829
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.360
I are fighting. Now. If
if I hit one of your limbs,

830
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:36.599
you lose the use of that limb. If I hit another one, you're

831
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:37.920
dead. Or if I hit your
body, you're dead. That's it.

832
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.639
I think you should have to go
until you actually make the limb unusable,

833
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.639
like physically, until it's like that
dead from getting hit by foam swords.

834
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:47.039
I would probably take a lot.
I mean, I can't imagine these folm

835
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:51.599
swords actually hurt and anyway, they
don't. They don't. They actually have

836
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:57.880
spears and javelins, and the I
think the javelin it is the only weapon

837
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:00.360
where it's legal to hit the person
in the face. Okay, because the

838
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.360
end of it is just like the
squishing material that you could that you know

839
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:06.920
doesn't hurt when it hits you.
By the way, this is called Bella

840
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:13.840
Garth. E E L E gives
me the sport. This sport is this

841
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:16.119
something that exists outside of these people
doing this in the Yeah, okay,

842
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:19.559
oh yeah. You can go to
I think it's just Bella Garth dot com

843
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:23.639
and you can see different groups around
the United States, just something like Europe

844
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:28.719
and South America. But there's swords
homemade or there's are they're actually people selling

845
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.639
foam swords. There are people on
like Etsy selling these swords. But I

846
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:35.039
think for the most part, I
think, come on, man, make

847
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.639
your own sword, like that's I
mean, it's part of it. This

848
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.239
is a rite of passaging and that's
how you exactly, that's how you how

849
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:44.559
you become ob right, Yes,
you have to make your crystals in official

850
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.880
Bella Garth Empire. Yeah. Molla
Knho was the first champion. He was

851
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:52.800
yeah yeah, and he'll be the
last. Really good with the broad sword.

852
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:58.360
Yeah, it was fun, tiring, Yeah, just get some good

853
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:05.760
aggression out. Yeah. I went
up against Joe the Gray Haven, which

854
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.320
is the San Francisco chapter of Bella
Garth and I went up against Joe,

855
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:14.840
who seemed to be the kingpin there, and he was very very good,

856
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:17.280
trying to get low and fast.
But yeah, we work. I got

857
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:21.039
I killed him once. Okay,
Like, how seriously did they take the

858
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:22.039
rules? I mean, like you
know, I'm sure it's kind of on

859
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.079
our system system you need to It's
kind of like paid ball, right,

860
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:27.960
so it's like, hey, man, I hit you because you take a

861
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.519
shot, it's on you to call
yourself out or whatever. Right. Yeah,

862
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:31.519
And if you have your sword in
one hand and they hit that arm,

863
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:35.920
are you like expected to drop the
sword? You switch hands? Was

864
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:37.039
it like bushido blade? Like we
get hit in the head, are you

865
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:44.480
just done? Uh? I imagine
the one weapon the javelin. If you

866
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.519
do get a head shot, then
you are dead. Yes, yeah,

867
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.199
that sounds like it could be kind
of fun. Yeah. There are also

868
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:53.920
weapons that like break your shield.
Okay, there's like a color coordinated system

869
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:58.039
on each weapon. It'll tell you
how it how it works. But apparently

870
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.440
there are also like big matches where
they get a bunch of people together and

871
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:04.400
it's not just one on one it's
like a melee. And then you do

872
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:08.599
have referees. They call them something. It's like an in universe name for

873
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:12.719
the referees. I can't remember what
it is. But uh, I don't

874
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.199
know. Everyone was super nice.
They were like a dozen people out there.

875
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:19.440
They they come from eleven to five
and just hang out and then go

876
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:24.159
drink afterwards apparently head down to the
mead hall. Yeah it was. It

877
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:28.760
was a good time. So oh
check it out. Yeah, I mean

878
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.199
fake sword fighting is awesome. Yeah, probably not awesome as a real sword.

879
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:34.559
Is it anything like movie sword fighting
where you get these kind of like

880
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.039
protracted volleys of like peris and blocks
back and forth. Or is it just

881
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:44.079
like it's like Russian like he'll he'll
block you and then you won't really have

882
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.239
enough enough time to come around for
another hit and by that time he has

883
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:51.880
hit you already. Or at least
that's how the New versus the Pro went

884
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.360
for me. But like, I
don't know, modern quote sword fighting is

885
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:59.960
like like, uh, in the
Olympics is real weird? It's just fence.

886
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:01.960
Yeah, it's just fencing. Yeah, So I don't know, I

887
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:07.519
don't know what's more real. Jeff
m hm. This is probably more real

888
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:09.400
than fencing. Word, fencing,
you have to where there's weird like beekeeper

889
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.039
suit things. Yeah, probably don't
have to do that. These people's no

890
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:16.199
safety gear. Also, the except
for the swords being made of foam.

891
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:21.199
Oh yeah, fencing swords are all
are super flexible. It always wears me

892
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:24.280
out how much they bend. Yeah, I guess that's safety. I don't

893
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:29.639
know, that's just fencing. Man. Okay, don't don't question, all

894
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:32.880
right, I won't. Yeah.
Fine, so sounds fun. That sounds

895
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:36.639
cool. Uh do you got any
video games talk about or is it?

896
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:38.360
Yeah? Well, I mean Dan
and I looked at for Done, which

897
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:43.119
I thought was really cool. Like
I said in the video. We uh

898
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.719
it made me think of like old
Half Life one mods, like back in

899
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:52.800
the heady days, browns and firearms
and the specialists. Oh yeah, right,

900
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.079
it's a it's a World War one
game, and it's it's kind of

901
00:51:55.159 --> 00:52:00.280
unique in that, uh, you
alternate, you the opposing team alternate between

902
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:07.599
attack and defense, and if the
attackers win, the map moves basically along

903
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.840
the sort of linear path until one
end reaches the other side or you know,

904
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.119
I think it times out eventually because
like World War One, a lot

905
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:20.239
of stalemates happen, but it's the
first Verston Shooter. Uh, it's like

906
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:23.480
one shot, one kill, bullet
drop, et cetera. It's that kind

907
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:29.840
of level suns team. It's it's
it's out. I realize it's kind of

908
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:34.159
a horrendous subject. But is there
any representation of chemical weapons in this game?

909
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:37.639
Actually? Yeah? Really so like
it's you, it's very squad base,

910
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.480
right, and four people do a
suss the game where if you walk

911
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:43.840
too far away from your squad mate, you instantly die, right as a

912
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:46.480
deserter. Uh no, if you
walk outside, if you're defending and you

913
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:50.840
get out of your trench, you'll
git shot for desertion. Never gets out

914
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:53.920
of your trench. A lot of
people were shot for them that very thing.

915
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.599
Yeah, what do they call it
back then? Was it shell shocked

916
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:00.840
at that point? I mean shell
shock? Is that what happens to you

917
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:05.360
when you like basically you going crazy? Well yeah, but I mean,

918
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:08.280
you know, like what we would
and modern times refers to as PTSD has

919
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:10.840
yes, had a lot of different
names over the years, and there was

920
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:14.960
a lot less tolerance for it.
Yeah, that's true. I was just

921
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:19.119
saying it's like weak or whatever.
Absolutely, and you spend a month under

922
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:22.239
artillery barrage and see how you handle
it. Yeah, it's like space dementia.

923
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.239
Like if there's any any sign whatsoever
that you're doing less than the fullness

924
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:29.159
of your duty, you're dead.
Jesus. Yeah, it's pretty fucked up.

925
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:30.960
I would if I was in World
War One, I would build a

926
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.599
trench in my trench and then just
hide in that until the war was over,

927
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:37.119
until it fills with water. That
soundsanderus too, Yeah, and then

928
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:39.639
you get trench foot. What's that? You don't want it? Your skin

929
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:45.360
comes off. That doesn't sound good
at all. No, anyway, there's

930
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:49.159
a squad leader for each squad of
four, and he can call in stuff

931
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:53.559
like recon like a UAV and a
little biplane flies over it's go. Or

932
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:57.480
you can call h mortar strikes,
or you can call him gas and you

933
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.840
have a gas mask with you at
all times when you put it on,

934
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:04.840
really hard to see. Uh.
Yeah, we're done. Huh. I

935
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:07.199
think it's cool. Let's play a
little there A lot of people plan it

936
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:13.320
actually, yeah, yeah cool.
Also played some Elite Dangerous. Their power

937
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:15.639
Play update finally came out. I
think I mentioned a few weeks ago that

938
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.119
it was out, it was not
now out, So this is like it's

939
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:22.639
like political. Yeah, so you
can you can align yourself with a power,

940
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:30.320
like a nation sort of and then
go do missions based on who you're

941
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:31.880
aligned with. Right. It sort
of just gives you, like Elite is

942
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:37.079
a very open ended game, and
this kind of gives you a little more

943
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.639
direction, a little bit of structure. Yeah, a little more structure,

944
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:44.239
I have I have seen some complaints
about that game getting pretty grindy, yes

945
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:47.960
once you like not because there's there's
only a few things that you can I

946
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:52.199
think that's that was the problem,
right Yeah, like like there's just there's

947
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:53.480
only so many activities and you kind
of you get to the late game and

948
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:55.559
it's just well, I'm just gonna
cure more of these. I'm gonna keep

949
00:54:55.599 --> 00:54:59.400
doing those because that's all there is
to do. So yeah, I actually

950
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:04.599
can't speak to much about the Powers
upgrade because I don't think I've played enough

951
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:09.119
of the game to even unlock that
stuff. Ohka, but if you own

952
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:12.199
the game, you're just getting these
updates, right, Yes, Like they're

953
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:17.679
not selling piecemeal, they are.
This is free. But yeah, I

954
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:22.000
also it did not come with any
sort of like here's a video tutorial about

955
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:24.639
what this update is or how to
do it, or because there's a lot

956
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:30.199
of they introduced a lot of jargon
with the the powers, you know,

957
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:35.440
they have to get voted in,
or like this collection of planets is.

958
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:37.920
I don't know. I my eyes
sort of glazed over. I'm sure there's

959
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:42.519
like articles I can read on their
website or in the forums or whatever.

960
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:46.280
But the game itself, like when
I loaded it up, I couldn't tell

961
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:50.760
that anything had changed until I like
dug in some menus and then said,

962
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:52.840
oh, this is where I can
align myself. It doesn't really teach you

963
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:57.440
how any of that stuff works inside
the game. It's all about the second

964
00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:02.440
screen. It really is the companion
app, yeah or something if there is

965
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:08.760
one. Daniel, Yeah, what's
going on? Played a lot of The

966
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:14.760
Witcher just talking about on man,
tell me about your life. Oh I'm

967
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:16.559
having a good time, Yeah,
good stuffy, alright, good stuff.

968
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:21.039
There's your weekly Dan update. Ya
doing good? All right? Video that's

969
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:23.480
the update everywhere? All right,
things, things are good. I played

970
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:28.000
a lot of The Witcher, still
loving it, like, yeah, we

971
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:30.239
talked about it earlier. But I
have kind of committed to, like this

972
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:31.840
being the main game I'm probably gonna
play for a couple of months. Yeah,

973
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:37.079
so I'm gonna trying to think,
like I'm sort of doing the like,

974
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:38.079
all right, what's coming out right
after E three that we're gonna have

975
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:42.000
to worry about Batman. Batman's coming
out, but that's probably not a super

976
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:44.360
long game. And then no,
don't think there are a lot of other

977
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:47.159
major releases after you're fifteen hours.
I'm Batman. And when I put the

978
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:51.840
when I had made the kind of
conscious decision to stop playing the Witcher until

979
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:53.199
they fixed that one bug, I
was very fearful. It was like,

980
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:55.239
all right, I think this game
is really good, but I'm afraid,

981
00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:00.159
like Inertia or whatever he is gonna
take hold and I'm not gonna be able

982
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:01.880
to get back to it if I
put it down. I really want to

983
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:05.159
make sure I can finish it,
you know. Yeah, like having a

984
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.239
game this long that you interrupt multiple
times for like a week plus at a

985
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:10.320
time can be kind of dangerous.
Yeah, it's gonna be the big summer

986
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:13.719
game for me. I think that's
what happened to you with Bloodborne, right,

987
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:15.280
Like if you more or less,
I just kind of have to leave

988
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:17.960
if you have to put a game
like that down for a certain period of

989
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:22.239
time, Yeah, like maybe more
than a week. We can have something

990
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:23.239
like that. Yea. Like a
lot of that can be mitigated with how

991
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:28.719
they do their quests. Yeah,
does the Witcher do it smartly? Like

992
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:30.840
could you just jump back in and
say, oh, the way point over

993
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:32.679
here or I have no idea where
I left. There's tons of stuff.

994
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:35.599
Yeah, Like you can just kind
of pick a side quest that you haven't

995
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:37.880
done and just sort of set away
point and go well, and as far

996
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:39.239
as the main quest goes, like
you know, when you first load up

997
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:42.519
the game, it does a smart
thing of like the Bard or whatever being

998
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.800
like Siri ran off to whatever and
the Crowne saw her do a thing like

999
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:47.280
it kind of reminds you as you
load the game again. Yeah, you

1000
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:51.360
get a little narrative like here's what
happened last in your story or okay,

1001
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:54.519
so that kind of helps. But
yep, outside of that, the last

1002
00:57:54.519 --> 00:58:00.000
couple of weeks have pretty much been
nothing but Witcher and Splatoon. The ranks

1003
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:01.280
stuff showed up in Splatoon. Yea, how was that ranked stuff? I

1004
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:04.920
haven't no chance. It's all right. I still kind of prefer the main

1005
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.639
Turf four mode. This one is
kind of his own thing to where it's

1006
00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:09.480
like there will be one or every
ranked match just this, or is it

1007
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:12.920
kind of just when I played,
I just sat down and played a few

1008
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:14.719
ranked ones in a row. Okay, I didn't play a lot. I

1009
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:16.400
went right back to Turf four soon
after that, because I think that main

1010
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:20.159
mode is my favorite for sure.
But yeah, they introduced the new map

1011
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:22.960
some new weapons. I don't think
i've seen the map yet. I tested

1012
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.239
out a couple of weapons and they
weren't really for me, but it's cool

1013
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:28.480
that they're adding new stuff. I
had a bunch of people give me shit

1014
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:31.079
last week for saying that, what
is it the splatter help me out here?

1015
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:36.000
The main weapon splatter shot splatter Shot
Junior was like a totally good,

1016
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:39.679
viable weapon when I said better,
I guess like that style. There are

1017
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:44.519
ye you immediately get like a normal
splatter shot that has more range on it,

1018
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:45.599
but otherwise seems like the same guns. So I don't know why you

1019
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:49.280
wouldn't just use that, but whatever. I have not spent enough time in

1020
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:52.480
Splatoon to like theory, craft,
the weapon lineup. Yeah, probably on

1021
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:54.559
six or seven hours of the game
total. Now, actually probably more than

1022
00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:58.840
that, but yeah, it's fine. Ranked is fun, and at least

1023
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:00.559
at least ranked is a different mode. Like when I saw that there was

1024
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:04.400
a ranked category coming, I was
like, because you know, usually ranks

1025
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:06.639
just means like the same thing you've
been doing, but with some kind of

1026
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.480
leaderboard. Right, So hearing that
that's actually different mode is really good because

1027
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:13.519
that game needed some more stuff.
Yeah, yeah, so that's pretty cool.

1028
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:15.519
Also, did you Must Build a
Boat? I've been playing a lot

1029
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:19.000
of that, which we I switched
over. Yeah, we talked about last

1030
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:22.599
week. I ended up switching.
So the PC version doesn't have steam Cloud

1031
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:24.480
support, so in preparation for the
quick Look, I ended up playing through

1032
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:29.559
the early parts of that game about
four different times. So I said fuck

1033
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:34.440
this and bought the phone version where
I can have my progress with me wherever

1034
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:36.639
I go. And uh, yeah, so I've been playing into that too.

1035
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:37.760
It's a good phone game. Yeah, it's a really good game.

1036
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:40.599
Really good. Is it kind of
more of the same, Yeah, it's

1037
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:44.719
a little I think it's I think
it's a little more focused on the quests

1038
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:47.639
in terms of just like you know, the things you have to do to

1039
00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:52.920
proceed are sometimes difficult, and it
seems like there's way more to do as

1040
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:55.159
far as what you spend your currencies
on, Like as the boat gets built

1041
00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:59.159
bigger, there's just all these different
rooms and different people that you can do.

1042
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:00.599
Like, I it's been so long
since I played ten million, I

1043
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:04.360
don't really remember what the leveling up
was like, but I seem to remember

1044
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:06.920
a pretty basic like here's where you
do your swords, here's where you do

1045
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:08.599
your shields. Four, here's where
you do yeah, yeah, it's there's

1046
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:13.159
Yeah, basically four did things.
Eventually you unlock like Halo skulls, like

1047
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:15.800
the rough equote of that you can
kind of right right, some things that

1048
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:17.599
make it way harder or and modify
kind of what you're going to get out

1049
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:21.559
of it resource wise. Yeah,
and this you're like recruiting people, you're

1050
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:24.159
selling junk and loot to this ORB
thing. Like there's all these different rooms

1051
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:28.199
that seem to do different things.
You're upgrading individual spells things like that.

1052
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:30.280
See, I I'm loving it.
I love ten million. This seems to

1053
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:34.639
be right on that same level outside
of what you're buying and unlocking and like

1054
01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:37.360
putting currency into and stuff. Is
it's just a match three games. It's

1055
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.360
more it's more complicated in terms of
like what you want to match and when

1056
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:43.639
because it's but I mean, like
matching things is the core of the games.

1057
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:46.519
But timing at a right time,
so like a sword trap will be

1058
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:50.360
flying at you, and oh shit, I gotta find some swords or this

1059
01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:53.760
this monster is immune to magic damage
or whatever. So you may recall when

1060
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:57.760
I bought ten million in the middle
of last week's podcast, I have not

1061
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:00.920
yet played ten million? Good plan? Should I have just waited for this

1062
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:05.760
ten millions? Great? I mean
I think you could. You certainly play

1063
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:07.920
both. M okay, So like
I'm not gonna totally burn out on this

1064
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.719
if I play this and then well, I'd say play this and maybe don't

1065
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:13.719
immediately go okay, you must build
a boat. But they're not. They're

1066
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:15.960
not one hundred percent the same game
or something. No, they're not okay,

1067
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:20.119
all right. Also played some Super
Mario Kart Super Nintendo on the back

1068
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:23.000
of a lift seat I ordered.
Me and the lady were going to a

1069
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:27.679
concert on Wednesday, and I ordered
the lift. A van pulls up in

1070
01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:30.480
front of my place. It's just
got like Warrio and Donkey Kong and all

1071
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.039
sorts of crap panted all over the
side. And I just looked at my

1072
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:35.320
girlfriend. I was like, I
don't know what the hell we just ordered

1073
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.400
here. We get in. Both
of our seats are in front of us,

1074
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:39.920
the driver's seat in the passenger seat. Yeah, and the backhead rest

1075
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:44.559
has a Super Mario Kart loaded up
and you can play two player with two

1076
01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:47.599
Supernintendo controllers. He's running it all
through a Raspberry Pie up or him.

1077
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:51.280
So this was like a homebrew job. Yeah, so he said all this

1078
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:52.840
up. He said, he also
has like you know, length of the

1079
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:54.400
pass and a bunch of stuff.
They're not they're not selling vans equipped with

1080
01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:58.639
no no it says Video Lift.
Like they do themed lifts now, he

1081
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:00.199
said, like one lady in San
Francisco. It does all Hello Kiddy stuff.

1082
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:04.039
But it's like it's not like they
It's like these people are just doing

1083
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:07.880
it on their own. Well,
I guess Lift is pushing for themed Okay,

1084
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:09.840
they're trying to differentiate from from Uber, I'm sure. Yeah. And

1085
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:14.280
his was video games and so like
I started to asking questions about it and

1086
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:15.920
stuff and he's like, oh,
take a look at this, and he

1087
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:20.079
projected Street Fighter two on the ceiling
of the van. It's like, oh,

1088
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:22.599
I guess we could grab this control
play Street Fighter on the ceiling.

1089
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:24.519
Cool. This whole thing sounds like
a nightmare. Sounds kind of cool.

1090
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:29.840
He started doing video game trivia with
me and I won some Starbucks gift cards.

1091
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:31.239
Wait, like cash cat. I
was about to say, at that

1092
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:34.639
point, you're like waiting for him
and tell you you're on TV. Yeah,

1093
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:36.840
like that is correct. Yeah,
yeah, my girlfriend I kept looking

1094
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:37.880
at each other like what the fuck
is this? And then yeah, you

1095
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:42.000
went to Starbucks for the first time
in my life, and you started a

1096
01:02:42.039 --> 01:02:45.639
really good way to fuck with drunk
people, like to have a themed lift.

1097
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:47.639
Yeah. He was saying something about
like he picks up drunk people and

1098
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:52.480
like playing a racing game in a
car while you're drunk. Yeah, that's

1099
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:53.760
the best kind of rough. So
yeah, we were talking to him about

1100
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:58.519
like putting oculuses in there or whatever. So yeah, okay, so yeah

1101
01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:00.599
that was that was a super rand
thing. That no indication that you had

1102
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:04.519
done this until it showed up.
I pressed the normal ass lift button and

1103
01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:06.599
all of a sudden, the video
game van pulls up in front of my

1104
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:09.280
place and we're doing trivia and Mario
Kart and all sorts of stuff. Wow,

1105
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:15.119
Yeah, that wasn't We were talking
about the trivia on like last week

1106
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:17.039
and it was like one of his
questions was wrong. Yeah, so he

1107
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:20.360
asked me. The first one was
what year the NASS game out? I

1108
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:22.719
got that. The second one was
how many Wizards and Warriors games on the

1109
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:24.440
NASS? I got that three?
And then yeah. And then the third

1110
01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:30.199
one was he said there was a
Wizards and Warriors TV show who played the

1111
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:32.239
lead and like, I was like, I have no fucking idea here.

1112
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:37.039
It was Jeff Conway from like Greece
and the drug stuff. And then you

1113
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:39.679
told me that that actually had nothing. We looked it up. That Wizards

1114
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:43.360
and Warriors show was like from eighty
three, like well before there was a

1115
01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:47.440
Wizards and Wars to the game.
It's like yeah, yeah, so I

1116
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:52.199
don't know, I mean technically you
know TV trivia. Yeah. He also

1117
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:55.840
was playing the Princess Bride and the
van so was van was there. It

1118
01:03:55.840 --> 01:04:00.239
looked like a soccer mom minivan thing
and just completely I I think he might

1119
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:03.199
have said he had sixty four hooked
up as well. He had some other

1120
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:05.960
system I didn't PS one or something, but he had a lot of stuff

1121
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:09.559
going on there, and it was
kind of I'll running through the Raspberry Pie.

1122
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:11.199
We'll run a lot of stuff.
Yeah, it was it just like

1123
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:14.000
hanging out the side. Did you
see it there, the Raspberry Pie.

1124
01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:16.599
It was between it was like by
the center console or whatever man up front.

1125
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:20.360
Yeah, I thought that was a
cool idea. It's a neat idea,

1126
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:23.679
but it's not like when you request
an uber or a lift, you

1127
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:26.639
have any real choice over who picks
you up. So it's like, I

1128
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.519
think part of the joy was like
the surprise though. Well yeah, if

1129
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:31.000
he just like if he just gets
a kick out of seeing people enjoying it,

1130
01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:33.679
I mean you probably rated him high, yeah exactly. Yeah, for

1131
01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:35.440
sure. Yeah, we give him
big tip and stuff, and so like

1132
01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:39.280
it's, uh, you know,
if it was press this button to pay

1133
01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:42.119
five dollars more to order the video
game lift, I don't know if I

1134
01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:44.320
do that, but it was a
nice surprise, you know. Yeah,

1135
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:47.000
so yeah, that was pretty cool. I kept thinking about switching the lift

1136
01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:50.920
because the world is strange. It
is. Yeah, it's we live in

1137
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:55.639
a disruptive age. Well we also
live in the city for it. Well

1138
01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.519
have totally dune bullshit. Yeah,
that's not happening. They invent all the

1139
01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:02.679
dumb bullshit. I kept I kept
thinking about switching the lift because Stuberd keeps

1140
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:10.280
being a reprehensible company and and yes, stopping because of the weird expectation that

1141
01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:13.199
you sit in the front and a
lift that I never I never said,

1142
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:15.559
is that Is that not the case
anymore? I never want you anymore?

1143
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.800
Okay, like when whenever somebody told
me, like, yeah, you're supposed

1144
01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:21.239
to sit in the front with the
driver and talk to the driver and a

1145
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:24.280
lift like they want to be your
friend or whatever. No, no,

1146
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:29.039
I don't know. I cat is
the exact opposite of what I want from

1147
01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:32.239
a like car service, taxi cab, anything like that. Totally all right,

1148
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:34.840
that's good to hear. Maybe all
right, I will I will look

1149
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:41.880
back into Johnny cab, Johnny Cab. I'll fist pump Johnny Cab. It's

1150
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:47.960
your prerogative. Played a little bit
of nominom Galaxy for making a super factory

1151
01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:51.199
and space by the pixel Dunk guys. I thought it was pretty cool.

1152
01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:55.800
I thought it's not a Pixel Dunk
game at all, right, doesn't have

1153
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:59.960
that it's branding on it. I
think I think it was originally called like

1154
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:02.559
Pixel Junk Galaxy. Really, wasn't
it because Sony owns the Pixel Junk game,

1155
01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:06.440
right or do they? Maybe I
don't know. But then again,

1156
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:10.800
some of those games have coming on
steams. They have, yes, I'm

1157
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:13.800
not sure, maybe they don't.
I thought I saw that logo in there.

1158
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:15.800
Yeah, it's kind of cool.
We did. We did a quick

1159
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.159
look of it, and near the
end of it, I turned on,

1160
01:06:18.360 --> 01:06:21.519
like, hey, turn this level
into a multiplayer level in case somebody wants

1161
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:25.440
to join, and no one did, and so I paused at the end

1162
01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:27.800
of the quick look. I think
you guys came in to do some other

1163
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:30.480
quick look and so I came back
like forty minutes later, just to finish

1164
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:32.559
that level and save my progress.
And my factory that I had built was

1165
01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:35.239
just like way bigger, and it
was just like super well built to all

1166
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:39.079
these conveyor belts and everything was automated. And I'm staring at this and I

1167
01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:42.559
had no idea why my factory like
I recognized what I built, but then

1168
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:45.280
it expanded just tenfold turns out,
while you guys were doing a quick look,

1169
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.960
some guy had jumped into the PS
four session and had just been in

1170
01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:53.440
there by himself, just like building
this awesome factory for me. So I

1171
01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:54.920
just hopped back in and he's like, oh, hey, I see you're

1172
01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:57.000
here. He can come help me
out and fight these monsters off or whatever.

1173
01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:01.760
So crazy, it's great, still
have progress. I saved the level

1174
01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:04.280
we won. Yeah, yeah,
it's cool. It looks kind of like

1175
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:09.239
Terraria, uh as far as looks
goes. Yeah, like breaking through you

1176
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:12.280
know different terms. Yeah, you're
breaking the breaking around stuff kind of building

1177
01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:14.519
some stuff, right, but yeah, you know, I haven't played enough

1178
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:17.559
Ferraria to really know. Yeah,
I mean you're getting materials, and yeah,

1179
01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:21.199
you're mainly getting materials to make soup, not necessarily to build the base.

1180
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:26.280
The stuff, the base elements are
just off a couple of basic currencies.

1181
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:29.119
There's matter, which you get by
kind of drilling through any kind of

1182
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:31.199
environment, and then you get gold
by selling soup, and so that will

1183
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:34.280
build kind of any part of your
base. But you need to go gather

1184
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:38.440
ingredients and plant stuff and do all
that to make your soup to make money.

1185
01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:43.679
Also place where super we're talking.
It's all sorts of crazy space vegetables

1186
01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:45.760
mixing together. You can make all
sorts of combinations. Like each soup machine

1187
01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:49.159
you put in two ingredients and it
does a mixture, and each one has

1188
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:51.960
a unique name and everything and break
different money. Where can I get a

1189
01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:56.760
soup machine? I don't know.
I am the soup machine. Okay,

1190
01:07:57.159 --> 01:08:00.840
do you make me any soup I
desire? I mean, no, your

1191
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:05.519
crummy soup machine. Yeah, man, it's pretty fun, all right.

1192
01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:12.360
Cool game, cool video games.
They're real, I think, Yeah,

1193
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:16.760
I'd find out in a week.
Yeah, fall Out four. For a

1194
01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:18.560
second there, I thought you were
going to talk about that band, and

1195
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:20.880
I was like, that's why.
Yep, but they saw a band.

1196
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:25.159
I feel like I haven't heard about
them for like six or something. I'm

1197
01:08:25.159 --> 01:08:27.840
pretty sure they just put something out. I just heard them on the radio

1198
01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:30.880
this morning. Popular Also there they're
in the Nu Guitar Hero, Yes they

1199
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:33.439
are. Yeah, that was one
of the three fake videos or like you

1200
01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:36.680
know, we saw the video of
fake Fallout Boy right playing a real Fallout

1201
01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:40.520
Boy song. Yes, there was
a song on the radio this morning.

1202
01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:43.199
It was by them. That just
made me angry that sounds about right.

1203
01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:46.399
Yeah, does fall Out four make
you angry? No, Okay, that's

1204
01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:49.439
a good start, because we're gonna
talk about it. How fucking like.

1205
01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:54.039
It was the craziest thing in the
world to see people like like, oh

1206
01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:57.079
my god, fun four is happening. Yeah, it's like no ship.

1207
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:00.439
You know. Honestly, I was
actually old surprised that the announcement was as

1208
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:04.399
straightforward as it is, even when
they put up that countdown clock things.

1209
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:06.560
By the time that showed up,
I was like, all right, well

1210
01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:10.359
it's definitely fall Out because I mean, you know, you've been hearing variations

1211
01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:15.159
on Fallout four years coming out of
that place, right, just like yeah,

1212
01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:18.159
like if you if you are like
three degrees separated from anybody who works

1213
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:20.319
on video games, I feel like
at some point you've heard somebody say,

1214
01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:23.920
yeah, they're making new fall Out. Yeah exactly, but it's been so

1215
01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:26.199
long that at a certain point,
like you started to doubt it. You

1216
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:28.600
know, it's like, well,
maybe they are doing something new. Yeah,

1217
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:30.279
it was at it was at a
point where like everything I had heard

1218
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:34.439
about Fallout four was now three maybe
even four years or exactly, like and

1219
01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:39.640
so like, uh, I mean
maybe they changed course. Like who knows,

1220
01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:43.039
Like is that info even good anymore? Yeah, And then even on

1221
01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:44.880
top of that, like a week
or two ago, I heard that it

1222
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:47.279
might not be called fall Out four
but like fall Out something else. But

1223
01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:54.239
here we are, it's fall Out
four and it looks like Fallout three great,

1224
01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:57.920
Like I mean it's teaser trailer.
I don't know, but I mean,

1225
01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.640
like, you know, stylistically,
it's very m and there's old timey

1226
01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:03.239
radio clearly, boy, there's vaults. You know, it's very clearly descended

1227
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:06.439
from the stuff that they did with
with fall Out three. But but there's

1228
01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:12.520
a dog. There was a dog, totally dog before after this long,

1229
01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.359
I'm just ready to go back to
that. Like I'm fine with it being

1230
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:16.479
more Fallout three. I think it
looks great, like I'm not. I

1231
01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:18.760
don't mean to be dismissive of it, like I think I think it looks

1232
01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:23.560
like. There was actually like a
weird minor outcry about it not looking good

1233
01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:28.279
enough, to which I'd say,
I mean, yeah, like, I

1234
01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:30.920
mean, well, you know,
that's that can go both ways, because

1235
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:34.279
like parts of Bethesda's history, they
I feel like they have like set graphical

1236
01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:36.760
standards, you know, like moral
wind and Oblivion when they came out,

1237
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:42.560
We're like fucking mind blowing looking.
But but I feel like they've fallen off

1238
01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:45.439
of that. Yeah, totally.
Yeah, Like I feel like they've just

1239
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:47.600
had different goals. Yeah, yes, absolutely, Like fall Out three and

1240
01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:50.359
Skyrim like are fine. You know, they look fine for what they are,

1241
01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:53.680
but like it's like the it's like
the breadth and the scope of the

1242
01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:56.279
worlds that you're showing up for right, Like it's the I mean there were

1243
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:58.600
certainly, yeah, they're parts of
Skyrim. They look really great for sure,

1244
01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:00.399
sure, but you know, like
the you know, the animation.

1245
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:03.279
Character animation is always pretty robotic looking
and like facial stuff not so great,

1246
01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:08.000
you know, like individual like texts. You know, they're not like a

1247
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:12.880
tech powerhouse necessarily. Yeah, it's
like the size and the intricacy of the

1248
01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:16.119
worlds. That's the impressive feet there. I mean, as far as it

1249
01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:19.800
just being more Fallout wasn't Skyrim to
a degree, just more Oblivion, uh,

1250
01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:24.399
I mean it didn't like completely like
the shouts and everything of the Dragon

1251
01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:26.479
the Older. The thing about the
Older Scrolls games is every one of them

1252
01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:29.960
takes place in a different part of
the world and time period in Boston.

1253
01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:31.640
So yeah, I know, I'm
not saying that Skyram was set in Boston.

1254
01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:34.920
Yeah, yeah, totally. I
would play Skyrise in Boston. The

1255
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:41.520
Boston Vikings or nine dollars I will
sell you my mod renames the whole area

1256
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:44.960
to just Boston. I mean,
that was one of Ben Franklin. Yeah.

1257
01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:46.439
One of the things I liked about
Skyrim was that they picked like a

1258
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:49.920
sort of a climate and like a
region and stuck with it. You know.

1259
01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:51.760
It's like they didn't feel the need
to like, oh, here's your

1260
01:11:51.800 --> 01:11:56.319
desert area, here's your deciduous forest, here is the frozen tundra. It's

1261
01:11:56.319 --> 01:12:00.920
just like, yeah, kind of
uh, it was just like well,

1262
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:03.039
so, I mean actually was kind
of impressed at the variety of places at

1263
01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:06.039
the showed in that trailer, Like
it felt a lot more varied than what

1264
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:09.840
I remember a Fallout three. It's
certainly more color. Yeah, like Fallout

1265
01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:13.720
three I remember as being a very
brown and gray and green game, and

1266
01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:16.039
that was kind of it. And
there's a lot of there's a lot of

1267
01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:18.760
areas of this, you know,
like they showed some of the little more

1268
01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:24.479
urban looking stuff at night with a
lot of kind of contrasty lighting. Yeah,

1269
01:12:24.520 --> 01:12:26.920
stuff like that, Like there was
kind of a seaside area, which

1270
01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:29.680
you know, if it's in Boston
would make sense. Yeah. Yeah.

1271
01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:34.279
I watching that trailer kind of made
me think, like about, like they

1272
01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:39.079
should make a Fallout game that is
set well after all of the other Fallout

1273
01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:44.840
games that it is depicting civilization coming
back together in ways that are not super

1274
01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:48.600
waste landy. They're actually establishing some
kind of I mean there are governments and

1275
01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:50.960
factions and stuff like that in the
world of fall Out. I mean there

1276
01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:56.640
is an order, yeah, but
trying to actually make that order into something

1277
01:12:57.319 --> 01:13:00.079
I think of as modern civilization or
something you know, a little less cutthroat.

1278
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:03.920
Yeah, instead of just having little
pockets of that. They're always like

1279
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:09.359
gone horribly wrong in the most wild
westy kind of weird ways, uh,

1280
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:15.640
like something like resembling order, Like
like what order comes out of that situation?

1281
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:16.800
I guess. So it always strikes
me about that world, at least

1282
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:19.840
from what I remember Fallout three,
that like everybody is too busy scrabbling for

1283
01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:25.520
resources to actually like erec a hierarchy, you know, I'm sure, yeah,

1284
01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:28.239
but you know, like water was
like a coveted thing in Fallout three.

1285
01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:30.600
So it's just like, you know, who's gonna who's gonna take the

1286
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:32.760
time to put like a government together. That's why you would have to flash

1287
01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:35.079
forward, Yeah, pretty far because
you know you think about it like that's

1288
01:13:35.159 --> 01:13:39.920
you know, Caveman did that,
and you know you can have that sort

1289
01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:42.600
of situation. I guess I don't
know, Yeah, it's I don't know.

1290
01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:45.199
It's it seems like a lot of
speculation around what the deal is here

1291
01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:53.600
based on the trailer. Our our
intrepid news guy Austin uh did kind of

1292
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:55.760
a deep dive in this news story. I don't know if you guys read

1293
01:13:55.760 --> 01:13:59.159
it. Yeah, about the the
the sy quest, the replicated man from

1294
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:02.600
Fallout three. Oh yeah stuff.
Yeah, there was like an android who

1295
01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:06.479
was like basically running away from his
creators, which is kind of a group

1296
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:10.840
called the Institute. Yeah. Uh, And you know, I won't go

1297
01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:15.800
into exhaustive detail here, but like
Austin's kind of postulating that so like that

1298
01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:19.800
stuff was set around Boston in the
Choosts area according to this android. Yes,

1299
01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:23.680
so he's postulating that a lot of
this stuff is that stuff is going

1300
01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:26.279
to come into a lot more focus
in this game. I think there's there's

1301
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:29.279
been a lot of talk in the
lead up or not even in the lead

1302
01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:31.279
up to this, but a lot
of prior talk about AI and the role

1303
01:14:31.319 --> 01:14:34.359
of AI and things, so that
that fits into a lot of the leaked

1304
01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:38.439
stuff. Yeah. So it's weird. There's that Reddit post from like a

1305
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:41.039
year ago floating around, and at
a certain point it's hard for me to

1306
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:42.880
like separate in my mind, like, all right, what have they talked

1307
01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:45.319
about and what was in that post
that may or may not actually be true?

1308
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:47.359
Yeah, well they have talked about
next to nothing. Yeah, you

1309
01:14:47.399 --> 01:14:50.760
know, it's stuff that has come
out of little bits and pieces here and

1310
01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:54.880
there, which I yeah, we've
heard some of the some of the stuff

1311
01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:58.479
directly about some of the some of
this AI stuff. But again that was

1312
01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:00.399
years ago, right, so know
what what is it now? Yeah?

1313
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:02.960
And then you know, there's whatever
you can surmise from the trailer, which

1314
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:06.279
is probably not a lot of actual
detail. There's a little bits and pieces,

1315
01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:10.479
but yeah, you know it's Yeah, did you know the trailer doesn't

1316
01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:12.359
say like, here's what we're doing
to vats, Like you know, it

1317
01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:17.039
doesn't actually tell you anything they're doing
something. Yeah, I don't want to

1318
01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:20.319
play another get fall Out that's just
VAT sing everything, Like I would play

1319
01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:24.640
another Fallout that, well, there
was a better looking like you know it

1320
01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:27.800
needs because it's been a while,
but I would like to see I mean,

1321
01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:30.720
if you think about the change from
Oblivion to Skyrim, you know,

1322
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:32.520
in terms of systems, in terms
of like that sort of stuff, like

1323
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:35.079
I would like it to evolve.
I would like to fall Out four to

1324
01:15:35.119 --> 01:15:40.720
evolve more than New Vegas. Well, sure, but that's just needs an

1325
01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:43.399
overhaul. Like I'm not saying that
it needs to go away. I just

1326
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:46.159
didn't the way it was originally,
I would not want to keep playing.

1327
01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:49.239
Sure you expect all that to be
covered on Sunday. I don't know,

1328
01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:53.840
no, Like this is well,
they're not gonna go like here's what you

1329
01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:56.720
know, like you let's look at
the U. I well, they're not

1330
01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:59.880
gonna sit there and talk about vats. But I might totally see there be

1331
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:02.319
like a fairly extended gameplay. Yeah, yeah, sure, because yeah,

1332
01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:05.640
I guess a gameplay demo that would
certainly answer some questions. Because it seems

1333
01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:09.359
crazy to me now that they went
and rented out a whole theater and they're

1334
01:16:09.399 --> 01:16:13.079
doing this Galla thing the night before
all the other press conferences. If they've

1335
01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:17.479
already announced their biggest game and they've
already shown like gameplay footage in that trailer,

1336
01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:21.600
I mean, so what do they
show with this thing? Like they

1337
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:26.000
can't just run that trailer again.
I probably show a good check of a

1338
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:30.119
quest or something. Yeah, like
I would I would expect more of a

1339
01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:32.319
live gameplay demo or something like,
you know, walking around like the equivalent

1340
01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:35.880
of Mega Ton or something like that
and talking to different people. Also,

1341
01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:41.920
it's been now if I kill this
guy, his quest won't be available.

1342
01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:46.479
Whoa real consequences? Oh you know, it's been almost four years. Like

1343
01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:49.079
they've got to be pretty deep into
this thing, right, Like it's got

1344
01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:56.720
to be in a fairly fairly playable
state. No, yeah, I dode,

1345
01:16:56.720 --> 01:17:00.399
I totally think. So it's coming
out this year, Coburn, I

1346
01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:04.039
remember this year? I disagree?
All right, you disagreement has been registered.

1347
01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:09.520
Yeah, bet a sandwich on it. No, okay, I think

1348
01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:13.119
it has to be this year.
I think it would be great if it

1349
01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:15.520
came out this year. I think
it would be great if everything came out

1350
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:16.640
this year, If everything was done
came out, that'd be really cool.

1351
01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:20.079
But I don't know. I think
the timing lines up. I think it

1352
01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:24.960
makes sense they should box heart.
Oh yeah, I'll eat a hat if

1353
01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:28.000
it doesn't come out this year.
Careful, you've said that before and it's

1354
01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:32.000
gone. I'm not gonna let you
bet on anything, not all the hats

1355
01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:34.920
at once, and then in any
of our stuff. It's just I just

1356
01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:40.960
want to reiterate for the record that
eating a hat is a figurative. I

1357
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:43.279
was gonna find a way to make
an edible hat. I actually looked up

1358
01:17:43.479 --> 01:17:47.000
and actually a hat safely. I
know. Well, if it's actual food

1359
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:51.560
stuffs making the hat, this is
more in my own retroactive defense. Uh,

1360
01:17:53.079 --> 01:17:55.079
you can make it like one of
those paper in and out hats,

1361
01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:59.359
but out of rice paper. Yeah, that that satisfies. Make make a

1362
01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:04.199
spring roll out of it or something. She's burger on your head that goes

1363
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:08.680
on your head. Put burger on
head. That definitely works. Yeah.

1364
01:18:08.680 --> 01:18:10.600
I don't know. I don't know
what else to say about Falling four other

1365
01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:13.560
than I want to play it.
Like I thought that trailer looked really good.

1366
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:15.680
Like it, you know, it
looked like a Bethesza game. It

1367
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:18.479
didn't look amazing lead. Yeah,
I mean from there, it just looked

1368
01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:21.680
nice. It looked like what I
would expect to a new next gin.

1369
01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:26.479
BETHESA have a ton of questions about
what faugh for is, you know,

1370
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:29.760
in terms of just like are they
overhauling you know, is it the same

1371
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:30.920
engine is? Are they overhauling this? Are they doing? What does that

1372
01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:34.600
even mean at this point because they
said Skyrim was on any brand new engine?

1373
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:39.760
Yeah, and come on right,
yeah, like what does that mean?

1374
01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:44.079
Will you that a new engine?
Will it be jankie in the same

1375
01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:48.279
way all of their games are JANKI
yes, that that at some point becomes

1376
01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:51.720
a deal breaker. I would.
I mean it might be better, like

1377
01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:57.680
they they can't fucking well whatever,
every fucking game's broken now, so obviously

1378
01:18:57.760 --> 01:19:01.119
yeah, they could ship something totally
fucked. But like that's the you know,

1379
01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:05.000
like polish. Yeah, you know, games that work. It needs

1380
01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:09.119
to get better. You're not wrong
about the way their games work. And

1381
01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:13.920
I think there's stuff with like animation
and presentation of you know, of dialogue

1382
01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:16.319
and stuff like that. I just
I still don't see anybody out there creating

1383
01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:20.760
these like massive clockwork simulations. That
stuff's awesome, Like it's great, but

1384
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:24.800
I to do that I think you're
the dog has to turn, it has

1385
01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:28.279
to pivot on a point. Like
that's just how that might be the case.

1386
01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:30.359
Like I see a lot of people
out there going like like oh,

1387
01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:33.000
like oh the Witch or three has
completely like remade expectations for what open worlds

1388
01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:36.079
can be, Like Bethesna needs to
step it up. But like that is

1389
01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:40.279
crazy talk, because like every NPC
in the Witcher has one place to be

1390
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:43.479
for the entire game, and every
time you walk through one of those towns

1391
01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:45.319
they say, they go through the
same dialogue routines over and over. Have

1392
01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:53.520
you ever played a game called Majora's
Mask, No, whatever to that's but

1393
01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:57.199
they're still all scripted to be in
a pet looked at that game. Yes,

1394
01:19:57.479 --> 01:20:00.439
But like like the npcas and bethesta
game like roam around and do weird

1395
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:03.680
shit constantly. Yeah, like most
games are not attempting this level of like

1396
01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:06.760
autonomy in the agents that are moving
around in the world. But like at

1397
01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:10.439
some points forgive part of it.
But yeah, but at some point they

1398
01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:13.239
need to tighten that shit. Yeah
yeah, yeah, you're right. It

1399
01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:15.800
would be nice if that stuff works
more consistently. I'm excited because this would

1400
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:18.520
be my first Bethesza game on PC. I've always done it on you know,

1401
01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:21.399
Xbox. Oh, how is their
track records great? Now that I

1402
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:24.600
have a good well, I mean, you know, they're like some people

1403
01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:27.920
had complaints about the UI for Mounsing
Keyboard and Skyrine. I'd be playing the

1404
01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:30.119
controller, but like, you know, they run great, Like okay,

1405
01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:33.079
alright, Like it almost doesn't matter
how good the ports are at this point

1406
01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:36.760
because buying large the hardware is so
much better. At this point, you

1407
01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:40.279
don't have to care. When those
games had games from Windows Live, you

1408
01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:44.000
could pull down the console and unlock
all the achievements right there. That's how

1409
01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:45.920
good the PC versions were. I
might have done that on fallow I gave

1410
01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:50.439
myself fifteen hundred points and Fallout three
in about two minutes. I got banned

1411
01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:54.239
from checking games out of the game
and Former Vault because I did that on

1412
01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:57.880
it and follow Out three. What
why? Because I was using the vault

1413
01:20:57.880 --> 01:20:59.479
to like it's like, oh my
god, every games here, I'm just

1414
01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:01.479
gonna achieve farm all the time.
And everyone knew I just love getting achievements

1415
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:04.680
checking out college basketball games? The
fuck did they care? Though? It

1416
01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:09.880
was? It wasn't like a serious
punishment or anything. But they stuck to

1417
01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:12.479
it for a month. They couldn't
check anything out because I cheated to get

1418
01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:15.199
it that they catch up or something
whatever. It's not cheating. It's right

1419
01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:16.680
there in the game. Yeah,
I know I contacted. They never patched

1420
01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:19.319
it out. Yeah, I contacted
bethsa Pr at the time. You can

1421
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:21.640
go on our site and look for
that news story, and I'm pretty sure

1422
01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:24.560
I think I ended up posting it
because I mean, they gave me a

1423
01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:27.159
very noncommittal quote, but it was
clear they did not give a shit.

1424
01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:30.840
It was like, because like you
guys wear this is this intended and there's

1425
01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:33.640
like a lot of things are possible
possible through the console in our games.

1426
01:21:33.640 --> 01:21:36.800
There's the magic of video games.
Uh, we don't give a fuck about

1427
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:41.640
Microsoft's dumb achievement system. Fuck you, Like it was basically what their answer

1428
01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:44.359
was. Yeah, well maybe not
the fuck you part. Yeah, you

1429
01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:46.760
know, I mean, obviously they're
held back by console hardware to an extent,

1430
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:50.319
but like these machines have so much
more rams and whatnot than the last

1431
01:21:50.359 --> 01:21:55.920
ones did. Like maybe they finally
just got the resources to brute force pass

1432
01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:58.640
some of the jink that they've had
in the past. Yeah, maybe,

1433
01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:00.479
I don't know, but i'd like
I think that their ambition has grown as

1434
01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:04.000
well, to the point where they
might still be jacking. Maybe. I

1435
01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:05.640
don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. Yeah, a lot

1436
01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:09.800
of things remain to be seen.
Like I'm really one curious why all those

1437
01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:14.359
assets for like pre war America or
in that trailer, right, like all

1438
01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:16.920
those shots of like here's what it
looked like before. That's probably that's probably

1439
01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:19.600
just their fancy trailer treatment. And
I don't I don't know, necessarily like

1440
01:22:19.640 --> 01:22:23.359
a lot of stall like art to
put in the game just for a trailer,

1441
01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:25.319
Like, I know, that's a
lot of assets though, that they

1442
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:29.199
may have built for inside a vault. Oh yeah, Fallow three had that

1443
01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:30.960
one VR mission where you went back
to like the fifties or whatever. Right,

1444
01:22:31.560 --> 01:22:34.640
maybe they have like a playable prologue
thing or that's that's possible. You

1445
01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:39.039
know. I saw some speculation from
some people that your character is from the

1446
01:22:39.079 --> 01:22:42.600
pre war era and has been in
like cry Oh for two hundred years or

1447
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:47.600
something like that. That would probably
be easier to make a voiced character.

1448
01:22:47.960 --> 01:22:50.760
Yeah, if he has a sort
of different perspective, I don't. We

1449
01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:54.359
don't know for a fact that they're
doing that. That was part of the

1450
01:22:54.399 --> 01:22:57.279
league. Yeah, and you know, the character the what is clearly the

1451
01:22:57.279 --> 01:23:00.319
main character has a line, like
a recorded line, which some people were

1452
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:03.119
saying it is Troy Baker in the
trailer. I wouldn't sounds started like Troy

1453
01:23:03.159 --> 01:23:06.960
Bakery. I went back and listened
after after people said that, I can

1454
01:23:08.039 --> 01:23:12.359
see that. I don't know for
a fact that there there will be actual

1455
01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:16.520
voice acting for the character throughout that. It's key for Sutherland. I'm proud

1456
01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:20.039
to announce city about five lines of
dialogue and yeah, yeah, okay,

1457
01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:26.720
uh if if that stuff is true, I hope it's not the case as

1458
01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:30.560
the leak implies that you can only
play the the one voice, you know,

1459
01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:34.279
right here's here's like the one male
voice the character. My version of

1460
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:36.840
the boss is, you know,
talks like this way, and then your

1461
01:23:36.960 --> 01:23:40.439
version of the Boss does the cockney
accent because you picked mail two. And

1462
01:23:40.439 --> 01:23:44.399
then yeah, no, if any
likes the cockney, okay, yeah,

1463
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:48.760
yeah, four, Yeah, it's
happened. Four, it's happened. They

1464
01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:51.479
should make that game. That'd bed
be a really good idea. They've got

1465
01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:56.279
good news for you, I think
they are Okay, great order now and

1466
01:23:56.279 --> 01:24:00.159
it will be out in November.
Yeah no, yeah, no, I'm

1467
01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:03.800
on bradside here. March coming out
this year, Summer coming out this year.

1468
01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:06.520
That's not gonna come out this year. They've gotten a new habit of

1469
01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:10.199
November releases, so it seems like
they stick to that. Man, that's

1470
01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:12.600
a real bummer then, because we're
gonna have to wait until all the way

1471
01:24:12.640 --> 01:24:15.479
it's next November. Then if they're
sticking to that, and hopefully they're not,

1472
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:17.239
hopefully they'll release it in the spring
of next year. It's just five

1473
01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:21.439
short months away. I'm feeling pretty
good about twenty fifteen. Twenty fifteen has

1474
01:24:21.439 --> 01:24:25.159
not disappointed me so far. It's
been a really good year for video game

1475
01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:29.239
releases. I say we keep this
train going. Okay, Beth has to

1476
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:31.279
put your game out this year,
that would be cool. I don't think

1477
01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:34.640
it works that way, you know. I don't think they get to to

1478
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:41.640
do that. You know, we'll
see. Uh. Steam News they valve

1479
01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:44.920
valve wheeled out on another policy,
you kind of out of nowhere. Yeah,

1480
01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:49.159
on Steam you can get refunds now. Seems to be something that a

1481
01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:54.279
lot of people have been clamoring for
for a very long time. Yeah.

1482
01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:58.319
Uh yes, they yeah, or
like Origin had their kind of like guarantee

1483
01:24:58.399 --> 01:25:00.479
policy that was like, what is
it if within seven days or something like

1484
01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:03.079
this, or twenty four hours of
launching the game. Yeah, I think

1485
01:25:03.079 --> 01:25:08.000
it was seven days of purchase or
which whichever comes first or whatever, Yeah,

1486
01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:10.840
something like that, and then this
is what was it? Two hours

1487
01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:13.439
of play? Yeah, so if
you have less than two hours play time

1488
01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:16.279
on the game. Uh. And
what was the other stipulation, I'm sorry

1489
01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:18.800
it was some it was a date
from purchase thing. Yeah, it's uh,

1490
01:25:19.159 --> 01:25:24.720
I'm trying to find it in the
new story here. Uh, less

1491
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:28.640
than two hours of playtime and within
fourteen days of purchase, so within two

1492
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:31.920
weeks. Yeah. It sounds like
the wording from their announcement sounds like they'll

1493
01:25:31.960 --> 01:25:38.279
just give it to you. Yeah, but it's they also are saying that,

1494
01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:41.520
like they'll they'll stop people that are
abusing it from abusing. So it

1495
01:25:41.520 --> 01:25:43.840
sounds like it's it's not as as
simple as like, well, I could

1496
01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:45.399
play any game for two hours now, Like it sounds like they will eventually

1497
01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:47.479
go like nah, yeah, I
mean yeah, from the sound of it,

1498
01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:49.920
if you had like, you know, refund after refund on your account,

1499
01:25:49.960 --> 01:25:55.760
they might stop, right. So
I think that was the fear or

1500
01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:59.880
hope, depending on which you know, whether you were developing games or buy

1501
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:02.600
them, sure was that they would
just let you play anything for two hours,

1502
01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:06.039
which for people that were developing games
that were not two hours long probably

1503
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:10.279
got him a bummer. Yeah.
I can understand that perspective, but like,

1504
01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:12.800
I don't know what else you do, Like, you've got to have

1505
01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:15.239
a cut off, Like you can't
just give people carte blanche to just demand

1506
01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:17.359
a refund whenever. So you've got
to be able to say, like,

1507
01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:21.159
well, you can't have played it
more than X. I could see actually

1508
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:25.560
them, you know, if they
really wanted to get into it and do

1509
01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.760
this stuff, they could tie it
to Steam achievements and just say like,

1510
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:30.279
hey, if you've unlocked this Steam
achievement, we will not give you a

1511
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:35.039
refund under unless you have a larger
like technical issue with the game, like

1512
01:26:35.079 --> 01:26:40.199
if you get sorry, I mean
like if you've completed a game within the

1513
01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:44.840
two hours, then sorry, Oh
it's just like yeah, you finished the

1514
01:26:44.880 --> 01:26:48.279
game, right. No. I
imagine that there's so many games coming out

1515
01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:50.039
on Steam. I don't know how
they could keep up with that on a

1516
01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:53.800
per game basis though, I think
it's like developers have to submit. If

1517
01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:57.479
I just started dating what their end
game achievement was, like mandating an achievement

1518
01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:03.800
be in there, then this troublesome. Either way, there's gotta be there's

1519
01:27:03.800 --> 01:27:05.800
gotta be a grace period though,
you know, you can't just say like,

1520
01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:10.640
oh, like you can't get a
refund if you've launched the game already

1521
01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:13.479
or whatever, because like at a
certain points, like just like you need

1522
01:27:13.640 --> 01:27:15.640
some time for like technical issues to
raise their heads. And so they had

1523
01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:18.359
been you know, like they had
never really made a big deal about it.

1524
01:27:18.399 --> 01:27:20.399
But like if you wrote to them
and said, hey, I need

1525
01:27:20.439 --> 01:27:24.840
a refund and you had a good
case, a really good reason for it,

1526
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:27.079
they would occasionally give you one.
Yes. But I looked that up

1527
01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:30.439
and it was it was a one
per lifetime account like they would say in

1528
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:33.520
the email like this is a once
this is a once per account like they

1529
01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:36.119
Basically the wording was basically, we
were doing you a favor, yeah,

1530
01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:39.119
like don't ask to do this again, right, like, we will not

1531
01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:42.159
do it again. Yeah. So
so it was not something you could repeat,

1532
01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:45.000
which now it sounds like you can
do and you know, within reason,

1533
01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:49.399
but like anecdotally, there's already stories
out there about like from developers saying

1534
01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:53.960
like, oh, we're seeing a
bunch of refunds on games that we're sold

1535
01:27:54.000 --> 01:28:00.399
at prices we haven't offered in weeks
or months, right Phil talking about Dad?

1536
01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:01.600
Yeah, yeah, so I saw
some stuff with Octor, Dad and

1537
01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:04.600
two or three other games that I
don't remember of off the head. But

1538
01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:08.720
yeah, and and you have to
you know, no one has a history

1539
01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:12.319
of returning stuff, so everyone is
new to the whatever Steam system, so

1540
01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:15.840
you know that they said they would
be willing to hear cases out if they

1541
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:19.520
were outside of this window. So
maybe it'll be people that just were running

1542
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:23.800
into there saying they were running into
technical issues. Yeah, who knows.

1543
01:28:25.640 --> 01:28:28.560
Yeah, I don't know. That's
uh, it's hard to say. I

1544
01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:31.159
think, you know, like refunds
for games like that's something that needs to

1545
01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:35.840
happen, especially in an era where
so many games are are having technical issues

1546
01:28:35.880 --> 01:28:40.000
and stuff like that. They're they're
just game breaking problems for players, Like

1547
01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:45.079
they need to be able to find
relief, even if it is like get

1548
01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:46.039
this game out of my life and
give my money back like I can.

1549
01:28:46.079 --> 01:28:48.159
I'm not going to wait for a
patch either. Do you know they do

1550
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:53.239
obviously need to be some fairly strict
safeguards. Yeah, total, totally,

1551
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:57.720
But also like like the consumers need
to wield some kind of power in this

1552
01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:00.000
relationship that they haven't had for a
long time. And as a result,

1553
01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:04.640
you know, like more and more
games ship with serious issues, you know,

1554
01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:06.920
so so it's something where they can
say like, actually, no,

1555
01:29:08.359 --> 01:29:11.800
maybe I'll rebuy it when I hear
that you've fixed this stuff, but you're

1556
01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:14.560
not going to just like get my
money and then I'm just out of luck

1557
01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:17.960
until a patch comes. You know, I'm really curious to see the first

1558
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:24.479
situation of like a big, like
major publisher developed game but that has I

1559
01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:26.560
was like, you know, like
indie games or one thing, but like

1560
01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:30.399
if the next you know, like
fall Out or whatever comes out. Yeah,

1561
01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:34.359
like if Unity X, yeah yeah
would have been with its launch issues

1562
01:29:34.479 --> 01:29:38.119
like that would have been well within
the two hour window for people have just

1563
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:40.239
like this doesn't work, yeah,
giving my money back? Yeah, Like

1564
01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:44.199
just imagine the number of returns.
Yeah, Like that game did not launch

1565
01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:45.960
the night of release. You know, It's like they're like, how many

1566
01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:48.239
people would have just given a lot
of people yeah exactly, or they would

1567
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:50.279
have been like, well whatever,
like maybe I'll rebuy it, maybe I

1568
01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:53.840
won't, you know, like but
until I hear otherwise, Like I'm not

1569
01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:56.560
getting stuck with this. That's the
thing is they will have launched the game,

1570
01:29:56.960 --> 01:29:59.039
seen that it does not launch,
and then go like, well,

1571
01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:00.399
the clock's ticking, I need to
file this refund right now, right,

1572
01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:04.840
so like that's yeah, but that
stuff there needs to be stuff like that,

1573
01:30:04.880 --> 01:30:09.560
And I think, yeah, ye, I wonder if this pushes the

1574
01:30:09.600 --> 01:30:15.159
console makers to start thinking about a
similar solution on their digital stores, not

1575
01:30:15.359 --> 01:30:18.800
feel like those stores lag behind.
Steams are so like you know, like

1576
01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:24.720
those stores are just as problematic as
they were last generation, and everyone talked

1577
01:30:24.720 --> 01:30:26.680
about it. I was going to
be different this time. They're gonna take

1578
01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:30.680
it to Steam. Like you see, they've improved. Yeah, I would

1579
01:30:30.680 --> 01:30:33.239
say the one place I've really see
some improvement is in the occasional sales like

1580
01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:39.199
yeah, like their weekend flash sale. You'll see some some discounts on the

1581
01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:42.439
Microsoft side of things typically, right, you know, they do their games

1582
01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:45.720
with gold stuff, Like they're nowhere
near the bargain basement of the Steam sale,

1583
01:30:45.960 --> 01:30:48.399
right, but but it's you know, it's some progress there, yeah,

1584
01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:54.079
but like it's still it's still the
case where you see plenty of retailers

1585
01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:56.960
that have to clear shelf space and
they've lowered the price of a game to

1586
01:30:57.000 --> 01:31:00.199
a point that is not reflected on
the online store. Right, Like my

1587
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:04.319
example was called of Duty Ghosts,
Like on the PS four, the if

1588
01:31:04.319 --> 01:31:08.800
you want the game plus season Pass
edition of that game, it's still one

1589
01:31:08.840 --> 01:31:13.399
hundred dollars for fucking Call of Duty
Ghosts. That's about to be two generations

1590
01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:18.760
old of Call of Duty game rights, and you can go get that stuff.

1591
01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:21.000
I mean, the season past will
probably still be the season Pass prize

1592
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:24.239
because that's a digital thing. But
I bet if you could find that hardened

1593
01:31:24.279 --> 01:31:29.760
addition locally, you're probably gonna pay
sixty for it. If that if you

1594
01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:31.279
want the regular edition of the game, it's probably more like thirty because it

1595
01:31:31.399 --> 01:31:33.640
me retailers you have to get rid
of it. And then that doesn't even

1596
01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:38.800
take into account used games. Like
if you're willing to buy use copies of

1597
01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:43.359
games, then the digital stores are
fucking nightmare. Yeah, Like they don't

1598
01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:45.600
compete, and that's that's a bummer. It's the digital stores only exist for

1599
01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:48.439
people that want to play games on
day one, you know, and then

1600
01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:53.520
right, yes, or the type
of consumer that like really cares about playing

1601
01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:56.960
something as soon as it's out.
And for everyone else, they're smarter than

1602
01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:00.399
the rest of us because they are
waiting a little while. They're probably finding

1603
01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:03.199
it for at a discount, and
which is gonna be so great, you

1604
01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:06.800
guys, And yeah, it'll be
it'll be patched up, you know,

1605
01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:12.560
like there's there's won't cost me sixty
bucks. Yeah, there are plenty of

1606
01:32:12.600 --> 01:32:15.439
great reasons not to buy games a
latch now, and unless you're just dead

1607
01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:17.079
set on being part of the kind
of the zeitgeist, like being able to

1608
01:32:17.119 --> 01:32:19.920
talk to people. Rush, the
rush of publishers to get games out in

1609
01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:25.119
unfinished state, you know, like
is only making that more obvious. Yeah,

1610
01:32:25.239 --> 01:32:30.239
that's that's a real problem. Yeah, probably no refunds anytime soon on

1611
01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:33.439
consoles. If I had to guess, we'll see hey, threes around the

1612
01:32:33.439 --> 01:32:39.880
corner. And you know, some
stunts always make people smile. Sure,

1613
01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:43.079
yeah, this this you know,
this is it is a good thing.

1614
01:32:43.119 --> 01:32:45.479
This happened. Obviously, there's a
lot of particulars that still need to be

1615
01:32:45.479 --> 01:32:50.520
hammered out on this and like potential
abuses, Yeah, addressed, But it's

1616
01:32:50.520 --> 01:32:57.920
a good thing to have step in
the right direction. Let's say, remember

1617
01:32:58.399 --> 01:33:01.159
like two weeks ago, maybe it
was when we talked about maybe it was

1618
01:33:01.199 --> 01:33:05.920
three weeks ago that Capcom was going
to be doing a lot more HD remasters.

1619
01:33:06.279 --> 01:33:10.880
Yeah, what if I could tell
you? What if I told you

1620
01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:15.479
that you could play the first six
Mega Man games in CRISP ten ADP.

1621
01:33:15.279 --> 01:33:20.479
Wow, I'll do that. I'll
play them all again t ADP. Yeah,

1622
01:33:20.760 --> 01:33:26.760
they're pitching for this Mega Man,
I mean legacy collection there emulating the

1623
01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:31.399
nes Mega Man games. It's just
not just not redrawing the graphics thet's nearest

1624
01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:41.039
neighbor the image up to ten adp. Yeah. So this is coming out

1625
01:33:41.079 --> 01:33:45.279
of Digital Eclips. Yeah, that's
the weird story is that there's the Digital

1626
01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:48.199
Eclipse. I think the Mega Man, Uh, the MegaMan Legacy collection is

1627
01:33:48.239 --> 01:33:51.239
kind of a bummer, but the
fact that Digital eclips is back is kind

1628
01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:58.159
of cool. Yeah. Uh.
And they say they're going all the way

1629
01:33:58.199 --> 01:34:01.199
with you know, kind of supplemental
museum style material to go around the games.

1630
01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:03.920
Yeah. This says they're taking the
emulation seriously. You know, it's

1631
01:34:03.960 --> 01:34:06.720
like Digital Digital e Clips did a
lot of emulation projects back in the day,

1632
01:34:06.760 --> 01:34:12.239
but some of those were fucked up, and so if they're really going

1633
01:34:12.279 --> 01:34:15.439
to take the stuff Xbox Live,
it was a wild list. Yeah,

1634
01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:17.000
really, it really was. Did
you did you do it the wildest of

1635
01:34:17.079 --> 01:34:20.039
wild West? In full disclosure?
Did you do any d E work?

1636
01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:25.199
No? So that was a as
far as I know, it was just

1637
01:34:25.239 --> 01:34:27.439
sort of I mean, Mike mikel
would be the one to talk about this,

1638
01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:29.640
but like, as far as I
know, it was sort of just

1639
01:34:29.840 --> 01:34:35.560
a brand within Backbone. Okay.
Uh so were they not necessarily even doing

1640
01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:39.079
that work in the same building as
you? They were, but they were

1641
01:34:39.119 --> 01:34:43.479
the same people. I suspect that
this is now a brand inside of Other

1642
01:34:43.520 --> 01:34:46.680
Oceans, Okay, I'm not I'm
not positive about that. That's the press

1643
01:34:46.720 --> 01:34:49.880
release they put out saying Digital Eclipses
back is a little strange. So it

1644
01:34:50.279 --> 01:34:53.840
just it's Mike, Mike and Franks
Fall. It's just Other Ocean doing it,

1645
01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:56.920
right. I Mean they're like Mike, Mike is the head of Digital

1646
01:34:56.960 --> 01:35:01.399
Eclipse the studio and all the is
like the head of restoration for digital cribs,

1647
01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:03.880
right, so I don't. I
don't know. I don't think they

1648
01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:08.800
had to like pack up a desk
and move somewhere else to do that.

1649
01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:10.640
I don't know for sure. I
don't know. I haven't. I don't

1650
01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:12.760
know, but I mean, like, it's not like before where there were

1651
01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:15.720
all these different companies under this one
foundation, Foundation nine being like in it

1652
01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:18.479
his backbone, it was other ocean
like whoever else was in there. Yeah,

1653
01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:21.000
I don't know. The lineage there
is strange, but I don't.

1654
01:35:21.039 --> 01:35:25.199
I think it's I didn't even understand
it and I worked for him. Yes,

1655
01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:30.600
uh, they they threw around the
Criterion Collection as a reference point for

1656
01:35:30.600 --> 01:35:35.720
this thing. Hey man, Mica
loves No. No. I will never

1657
01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:40.600
dispute the fact that those people were
probably some of the best people to restore

1658
01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.479
a bunch of old games. Those
two are probably the exact right duo you

1659
01:35:43.479 --> 01:35:45.119
would be because like you know,
like the imagine, like you go to

1660
01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:48.760
Capcom and say, like we're making
Mega Man one through six. They're gonna

1661
01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:51.960
have some stuff, Yeah, but
they're not gonna have all of them.

1662
01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:55.560
Oh No, you need to go
to the source for that stuff. You

1663
01:35:55.840 --> 01:35:58.760
would, like his basement, like
you know, like that stuff's in there

1664
01:35:58.800 --> 01:36:00.960
somewhere already, and he's like,
no, I got all that shit here,

1665
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:05.279
yeah, you know, yeah,
uh yeah. They're they're kind of

1666
01:36:05.279 --> 01:36:12.079
talking up like this idea of sustainability
with uh these emulation. Emulated versions of

1667
01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:18.600
these games will not go yeah locally. Yeah, but it's the idea that

1668
01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:24.600
they're like they're building an engine that
will run these games, and the engine

1669
01:36:24.600 --> 01:36:27.239
will be portable in a way that
you know, it could be released on

1670
01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:30.359
multiple platform and at least then the
next generation comes along, it could be

1671
01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:31.800
released again. I think it's sort
of weird because at some point, like

1672
01:36:32.039 --> 01:36:34.439
Capcom has to give the green light
on that. It's not like they signed

1673
01:36:34.439 --> 01:36:36.720
a deal to like, yeah,
you guys just put this out on whatever

1674
01:36:36.760 --> 01:36:40.840
forever. You know, at some
point Capcom has to care enough to go

1675
01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:43.720
like, yes, do the work
to put it onto the PlayStation five.

1676
01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:45.640
But like, you can't just and
then we'll sell it all over again again.

1677
01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:47.800
You know, that's the main thing. You can't just buy it once

1678
01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:50.920
and then have your ownership follow you
from play So like the pitch, the

1679
01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:55.279
pitch on that from Digital Clips is
a little strange, but I get what

1680
01:36:55.319 --> 01:37:00.520
they're trying to say. I think
that sounds very noble. Yeah, totally.

1681
01:37:00.840 --> 01:37:04.359
I wouldn't have necessarily picked Mega Man
one through six. Yeah, but

1682
01:37:04.479 --> 01:37:10.279
at some point you gotta do what
you gotta do one through three or great.

1683
01:37:10.479 --> 01:37:13.960
Yeah, yeah, I'll still play
through four or five. Eight is

1684
01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:17.359
underrated. Eight is pretty good.
The PlayStation which one was eighty like a

1685
01:37:17.359 --> 01:37:21.039
clown man in it? Did it
look like the NES games or do they?

1686
01:37:21.039 --> 01:37:24.560
They must have dressed it up.
They dressed it up. And that's

1687
01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:26.680
that was not an X game.
That was just straight up Mega Man.

1688
01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:29.239
It was called MegaMan eight. It
was on PlayStation yeah, and Saturn.

1689
01:37:29.439 --> 01:37:31.680
Let say it's like ninety six ninety
seven something like that, and then seven

1690
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:34.479
was for the SNSs. Yes,
okay, but yeah, I mean it's

1691
01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:38.319
like people are going like, why
doesn't this have all the Mega Man games.

1692
01:37:38.359 --> 01:37:42.119
I'm not buying this, Like it's
specifically because it's an emulation project that

1693
01:37:42.279 --> 01:37:45.760
is going to be running any S
games, so they're putting those out when

1694
01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:50.000
they get to the nest, then
they can put out Mega Man Soccer Sweet

1695
01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:55.319
and none of the X games because
they're all terrible. What and what?

1696
01:37:55.479 --> 01:37:58.159
Leave it at that? It's just
like pay fifteen dollars from Mega Man Soccer

1697
01:37:58.279 --> 01:38:00.640
and we're done. Do you really
not like the X games? Yeah,

1698
01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:02.319
they're dumb. I've never heard anyone
say that. Yeah, they're they're they're

1699
01:38:02.359 --> 01:38:05.399
so good for again, it's like
the first three specifically, but yeah,

1700
01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:09.239
yeah, and then five because of
the guns and roses bosses, but yeah,

1701
01:38:09.319 --> 01:38:13.960
yeah was that really five? Yeah? Never really like it just felt

1702
01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:16.960
like this weird bastardization of Mega Man. I had already gone off the rails

1703
01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:19.600
for me after three, so like, at some point after three, I

1704
01:38:19.640 --> 01:38:23.279
was like, I don't even really
care about Mega Man anymore, so bring

1705
01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:26.800
it back. Mega Man X maganam
Edgy is just dumb. I'd say one,

1706
01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:29.239
two, and three on the NAS
for my favorites, But the first

1707
01:38:29.239 --> 01:38:32.079
few X games are right at there
I totally understand. Was really fun to

1708
01:38:32.079 --> 01:38:34.520
watch, Yeah, which one?
Travis Pastrana, Yeah, it was really

1709
01:38:34.520 --> 01:38:36.720
good those first couple of X games. Then he kind of sold out.

1710
01:38:36.760 --> 01:38:39.640
I don't know, but also nine
and ten are pretty good. There's new

1711
01:38:39.680 --> 01:38:43.159
ones they put out on Xbox Live, Arcade and we and everything, but

1712
01:38:43.199 --> 01:38:45.399
they were good. They felt like
old MegaMan games. Yeah, I don't

1713
01:38:45.399 --> 01:38:48.920
know, I guess they did.
They not lean into the like ridiculous Challenge

1714
01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:51.920
Angle a little too hard though.
They were hard games, but I don't

1715
01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:56.760
think they were like crazy harder than
the originals. I mean, they made

1716
01:38:56.800 --> 01:38:59.359
it super faithful, even had that
go where you could turn on the slowdown.

1717
01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:00.880
The way they were hyping up how
hard they were going to be before

1718
01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:04.039
they came out and made modes.
Oh, you guys are going overboard.

1719
01:39:04.319 --> 01:39:06.439
I think there was modes like after
you beat it. I think there were

1720
01:39:06.439 --> 01:39:10.920
like extra hard modes. I think
by default that game was difficulty. They

1721
01:39:10.920 --> 01:39:15.279
were they were difficult games. But
yeah, I don't know. Uh.

1722
01:39:15.680 --> 01:39:19.239
I think it's cool that they are
setting out to kind of produce these sorts

1723
01:39:19.279 --> 01:39:21.279
of projects, and I hope that
they get a lot of work. I

1724
01:39:21.319 --> 01:39:25.399
think that I hope they do right
by those games. The digital eclipsed half

1725
01:39:25.439 --> 01:39:28.720
of the story is cool. Yeah, like that sounds like a neat initiative

1726
01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:30.960
and yeah, like there's some language
around this. It's like in an offer

1727
01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:33.079
a new set of challenges and museum
content, you know, like and then

1728
01:39:33.119 --> 01:39:35.720
if you if you go to their
website to kind of like look read like

1729
01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:39.439
what they're you know, building is
like their mission statement about how they're kind

1730
01:39:39.479 --> 01:39:42.840
of approaching this stuff like it is
noble, you know, like that the

1731
01:39:42.880 --> 01:39:45.159
idea of like, Okay, we're
gonna try to take this stuff really seriously

1732
01:39:45.239 --> 01:39:48.039
and make sure that it's actually right
because a lot of future proof it sounds

1733
01:39:48.039 --> 01:39:50.279
like yeah, yeah, which I
imagined at that point. It's like,

1734
01:39:50.319 --> 01:39:54.560
you know, there are a lot
of emulators that are highly portable these days

1735
01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:57.920
in terms of just like appearing on
multiple platforms and open source all this other

1736
01:39:57.960 --> 01:40:01.359
stuff. So I would assume that
like their portable as in able to be

1737
01:40:01.520 --> 01:40:04.760
porteous, yeah, not as in
life it in your pocket. Yeah.

1738
01:40:05.560 --> 01:40:12.239
At the same time, looking at
this as further indication of the state of

1739
01:40:12.239 --> 01:40:15.640
Capcom, Oh sure, yeah,
this is kind of depressed. What is

1740
01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:18.119
you know, like Sony's helping them
make the one game that they're making that

1741
01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:20.720
matters, right, and then they
have a bunch of Monster Hunter stuff that,

1742
01:40:21.039 --> 01:40:24.800
you know, even to someone who's
not a big Monster hunder fan,

1743
01:40:24.840 --> 01:40:27.600
I hope they don't just drive that
into the ground because nothing else is hitting

1744
01:40:27.800 --> 01:40:30.439
right, because there are a lot
of people that like those games and be

1745
01:40:30.439 --> 01:40:33.680
a shame if they burned it out. I don't get the sense that they're

1746
01:40:33.720 --> 01:40:36.279
doing that but it seems like there's
more of that stuff, a little faster

1747
01:40:36.399 --> 01:40:41.159
than I would have thought. But
then for them to have recently said like,

1748
01:40:41.199 --> 01:40:44.600
yeah, we're gonna keep doing you
know, remasters of our old games,

1749
01:40:44.640 --> 01:40:46.800
and then here's zero and then here's
Mega Man one through six, right,

1750
01:40:47.039 --> 01:40:51.439
like weird mishmash of Yeah. I
don't know, still mad about the

1751
01:40:51.479 --> 01:40:56.720
GameCube Anniversary collection of MegaMan because everything
was great as far as I had,

1752
01:40:56.720 --> 01:40:58.840
like, you know, the first
eight games or whatever they're you know,

1753
01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:01.079
some bonus features and stuff. You
can even switch between the powers on the

1754
01:41:01.079 --> 01:41:03.920
trigger, the triggers, which was
a huge you know, pause every time,

1755
01:41:04.319 --> 01:41:08.119
but the fucking B and A,
the jump and shoot, you know,

1756
01:41:08.159 --> 01:41:10.399
the thing you're doing the entire time
you're playing MegaMan. Yeah, you

1757
01:41:10.439 --> 01:41:12.840
couldn't swap it. And it was
the wrong way cool. It was the

1758
01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:15.159
opposite of the way it was on
the nes right. So yeah, yeah,

1759
01:41:15.159 --> 01:41:18.239
that was insane. Everything else about
it was great. It's disgusting,

1760
01:41:18.640 --> 01:41:24.800
it's filthy, unacceptable, what a
nightmare. I don't see any information about

1761
01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:29.239
when that's coming out anyway. Mega
Man, when that's Beyond Good and Evil

1762
01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:36.680
HD remake came out, you could
swap either you could invert either the camera

1763
01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:42.039
X or the camera why I could
never get it the way I want?

1764
01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:49.600
All right, last story, dual
headlines that don't sound that exciting on their

1765
01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:55.279
own, but stick with me here. New versions of both consoles have been

1766
01:41:55.359 --> 01:42:02.239
leaked, all right, like very
slightly new. Yeah. Amazon added a

1767
01:42:02.319 --> 01:42:08.920
one terabyte skew for the Xbox One. It's gonna have that new controller in

1768
01:42:08.920 --> 01:42:11.000
it, the existence of which leaked
a week or two ago. That's you

1769
01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:13.279
know, the controller's got an actual
headphone jack in it. Is this the

1770
01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:16.600
id at Xbox Bundle or is that
only for Australia. I believe this.

1771
01:42:16.960 --> 01:42:19.840
I could click through here. The
wording of this story makes it sound like

1772
01:42:19.840 --> 01:42:24.000
it's just straight up you know,
here's an Xbox, a new Xbox one

1773
01:42:24.159 --> 01:42:28.920
with a one terabyte hard driving Christmas
and that new Yes, happy Easter.

1774
01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:31.479
Here's your new controller. Plug your
headphones in, Yeah, says usure.

1775
01:42:32.800 --> 01:42:36.640
So there's that, and then,
uh, there's an FCC filing that outed

1776
01:42:36.640 --> 01:42:45.199
the existence of a one terabyte PlayStation
four. And then that one's got some

1777
01:42:45.239 --> 01:42:47.560
slight changes to it. You know, it's a little bit lighter, it

1778
01:42:47.640 --> 01:42:51.880
uses a little bit less power,
which like optimizations and stuff. That's one

1779
01:42:51.920 --> 01:42:56.079
that would be my assumption. Like
some people on forums have kind of like

1780
01:42:56.720 --> 01:43:00.560
looked at like, oh, the
weight and power reduction are exactly consistent with

1781
01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:03.640
what a blue ray drive would use. So maybe this one doesn't have a

1782
01:43:03.640 --> 01:43:08.199
Blue ray drive, which sounds insane. That would be the worst given what

1783
01:43:08.239 --> 01:43:11.800
we just said about the PSN store. Yeah, that would be the worst

1784
01:43:11.880 --> 01:43:15.479
deal in video games if that comes
to past. Don't buy that. But

1785
01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:17.800
but it sounds like the dimensions of
that PS four are the same, Like

1786
01:43:17.840 --> 01:43:20.680
it looks the same. You know, these are basically more or less identical

1787
01:43:20.680 --> 01:43:26.600
consoles with more storage in them.
Yeah, drives get cheaper, Yeah sure.

1788
01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:28.119
And I mean, you know,
like these stories are not all that

1789
01:43:28.159 --> 01:43:30.359
interesting or surprising on their own,
but I kind of wanted to use this

1790
01:43:30.399 --> 01:43:33.359
as a jumping off point to see
what you guys think it will happen around

1791
01:43:33.399 --> 01:43:39.439
those platforms at E three, like
price wise, like do you think these

1792
01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:43.640
are just new skews with higher price
tags? Do you think the original skew

1793
01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:46.119
drops like fifty bucks and these slide
in at the original price, like my

1794
01:43:46.199 --> 01:43:48.399
bed? Where do you think that
goes? I think that they probably just

1795
01:43:48.439 --> 01:43:51.960
put these on shelves alongside the other
ones, don't actually make a price change

1796
01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:56.439
and just hopefully blow out the or
put them put them in. Well,

1797
01:43:56.479 --> 01:43:58.800
I got man, that would mean, yeah, you'd have to change one

1798
01:43:58.800 --> 01:44:00.960
price at the other. Right,
it would be horrible if you inadvertently bought

1799
01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:04.000
the small Maybe they never move it. Maybe they Yeah, maybe they wait

1800
01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:11.520
to get these one terabytes out there
until the existing supply has become well so,

1801
01:44:11.520 --> 01:44:14.800
so this Amazon listing says the new
the terabyte Xbox is launching on June

1802
01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:18.079
fifteen, okay, which is the
week of the three. But also it

1803
01:44:18.119 --> 01:44:23.359
doesn't come with any games right.
Uh again, I just link does not

1804
01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:26.520
work in the document. I've got
the probably pulled it down or something.

1805
01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:29.199
But I could see the existing ones
going down thirty or fifty and then the

1806
01:44:29.199 --> 01:44:30.479
new ones coming in at the current
price point. Yeah, I would think

1807
01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:34.439
you'd have to. I think Microsoft
maybe makes that move. I feel like

1808
01:44:34.680 --> 01:44:40.000
they've been a lobody doesn't necessarily.
Yeah, Microsoft has been so aggressive on

1809
01:44:40.039 --> 01:44:44.560
price already to try to make up
their deficit. Yeah, but it's not

1810
01:44:44.720 --> 01:44:47.560
always working, so you wonder,
you know, I think if if Sony

1811
01:44:47.560 --> 01:44:50.720
could afford it, I think you're
putting the screws to Microsoft and coming down

1812
01:44:51.239 --> 01:44:58.960
like three nine for the model would
would be probably pretty big. Yeah,

1813
01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:03.319
but then they have to not really, I mean if they're introducing a new

1814
01:45:03.319 --> 01:45:06.039
model that they want to protect price
on, then yeah, they kind of

1815
01:45:06.039 --> 01:45:09.359
do have to. But you know, you know, we don't know how

1816
01:45:09.399 --> 01:45:14.680
many weeks, how many weeks of
supply are sitting in like warehouses already for

1817
01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:16.520
the older ones, Like how how
many do they have to get through before

1818
01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:20.159
they only have these new models left? Right? I don't know. This

1819
01:45:20.159 --> 01:45:23.760
sounds weird to me. I mean
it's it's interesting from the perspective of like,

1820
01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:26.079
oh, what are the potential gains
and market share and stuff. But

1821
01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:30.279
the storage is so expandable in both
of these consoles at this point that right,

1822
01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:31.840
Yeah, I mean it's nice for
people who wait for one is like

1823
01:45:32.000 --> 01:45:34.600
well, yeah, yeah, if
it's the same price for more space than

1824
01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:38.800
great, yeah. But although I
would say, like a terabyte is even

1825
01:45:38.840 --> 01:45:43.359
maybe not what you want, yeah, I mean maybe not. Maybe you

1826
01:45:43.399 --> 01:45:46.199
want to go to two. Yeah, maybe you want two terabytes. I'm

1827
01:45:46.239 --> 01:45:48.760
pretty happy with that, Brad,
Thank you for filling me that. Think

1828
01:45:48.800 --> 01:45:53.399
about it. I have one terabyte
in mine. What have you had too?

1829
01:45:53.640 --> 01:45:55.800
Yeah? What if I had too? You have a lot more space.

1830
01:45:56.119 --> 01:46:00.000
I've never run out of space in
my PS four. It'll happen,

1831
01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:01.680
and yeah, totally, but I
actually, well now I'm actually coming.

1832
01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:05.800
I've started deleting a lot of stuff
the Xbox One. Actually I've I've been

1833
01:46:05.840 --> 01:46:09.239
closed to out of space. Yeah
I have one on a space on that

1834
01:46:09.239 --> 01:46:12.279
one, but that's on a five
right, Yeah, yeah, so you

1835
01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:15.720
know, obviously a terabytes nice and
their external options sound all right, except

1836
01:46:16.199 --> 01:46:20.720
a little hesitant to have anything that's
got its own fan on it underneath my

1837
01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:27.199
TV, like another hard drive,
oh, because it's already loud under there

1838
01:46:27.520 --> 01:46:30.720
with everything else that's under there.
Most small USB drives don't have fans these

1839
01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:34.960
days. I thought you would want
like to get I don't know speed,

1840
01:46:34.960 --> 01:46:40.239
wouldn't I want something that was not
bus power. It's gonna sound like a

1841
01:46:40.319 --> 01:46:43.840
damn hard drive. Maybe you're right
external and I don't know the the last

1842
01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:47.680
time I saw I think it was
a Digital Foundry did a test of USB

1843
01:46:47.800 --> 01:46:50.920
three drives on Xbox one, and
they're faster than the internal drive, even

1844
01:46:50.960 --> 01:46:55.079
the bus powered ones. Because it's
a shitty fifty four rpm. Right,

1845
01:46:55.199 --> 01:46:59.359
Yeah, Cheapo laptop drive in that
system, so you're kind of already coming

1846
01:46:59.359 --> 01:47:01.359
out ahead there, man, makes
sense anyway, Yeah, I don't know.

1847
01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:04.520
I'm curious to see what happens with
these platforms, just business wise.

1848
01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:14.600
Yeah, next week hopefully something anything, anything, we're raising the price.

1849
01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:17.239
Yeah, I don't care. There's
wants something to happen. Happened. I'm

1850
01:47:17.279 --> 01:47:23.239
happy regardless. How about the we
you? I think we'll change there?

1851
01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:29.840
What is the current? Yeah?
What is it like? I think it's

1852
01:47:29.439 --> 01:47:31.880
swear it's still I'm gonna look it
up. Yeah, fact check that price.

1853
01:47:31.920 --> 01:47:35.159
I'm gonna I'm gonna price check,
get price price check on wi you

1854
01:47:35.279 --> 01:47:40.439
I got a price jack on out
three? Uh we you hard work?

1855
01:47:40.600 --> 01:47:45.680
Click on that. What do we
got here? Two ninety nine for Mario

1856
01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:50.319
three D World on a thirty two
gig console. Okay with with three D

1857
01:47:50.439 --> 01:47:54.279
World, that's not a bad.
Yeah. I didn't realize that we're still

1858
01:47:54.319 --> 01:47:58.000
packing in the game three ninety nine
for oh that's a bundle that comes with

1859
01:47:58.039 --> 01:48:00.039
Smash Brothers as well or something.
Okay, that's just weird game stop ship?

1860
01:48:00.520 --> 01:48:04.000
Do they still sell the eight gig
skew here? Only is refurbished.

1861
01:48:04.520 --> 01:48:10.000
I know they phase it out in
Japan. I'm not seeing any new eight

1862
01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:15.960
gigs here. Yeah, yeah,
two ninety nine with the games not terrible.

1863
01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:19.960
No, it's not unless you unless
you consider the possibility that that thing

1864
01:48:20.039 --> 01:48:26.199
is rapidly approaching end of life.
I'm left good on it now. Yeah.

1865
01:48:25.880 --> 01:48:28.760
Sure, there are some fantastic games, and there will be some more.

1866
01:48:28.920 --> 01:48:30.159
They could sweeten the pot on the
price, to be sure, you

1867
01:48:30.159 --> 01:48:33.680
know, but how much would that
really move things? For people? Like

1868
01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:38.520
fifty bucks on it? It's still, you know, multiple hundreds of dollars

1869
01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:42.000
for a thing that you're buying specifically
to play Nintendo's games, like half a

1870
01:48:42.039 --> 01:48:44.439
dozen games. Ever, Yeah,
and well, and like either you care

1871
01:48:44.479 --> 01:48:47.720
about that or you don't. And
at some point the price doesn't matter that

1872
01:48:47.800 --> 01:48:53.079
much, right, you want that
smash, You're gonna get that smash m

1873
01:48:53.760 --> 01:48:57.359
Any chance they would do like a
slimmer like game pad version with the more

1874
01:48:57.399 --> 01:49:00.520
storage space two hundred and fifty gigs, you know, redesign of the system

1875
01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:05.680
Slammer games seem like Nancino style.
Really they did that weird Canadian wi or

1876
01:49:05.800 --> 01:49:09.479
right at this point, they've they've
already kind of tipped their hand about a

1877
01:49:09.520 --> 01:49:15.319
next generation device. So I feel
like even though that's only like on the

1878
01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:17.800
horizon and not like a factor right
now, Yeah, you got to think

1879
01:49:17.840 --> 01:49:21.119
like at some point it doesn't make
sense for them to iterate on the WU

1880
01:49:21.359 --> 01:49:24.800
when they could spend all that R
and D time and money on the next

1881
01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:28.000
platform. I just wonder what they're
big headlines are going to be when they're

1882
01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:30.239
not talking about the NX and they're
not talking about Zelda this year, Like,

1883
01:49:30.439 --> 01:49:33.279
what is going to be the big
thing for Nintendo? I mean I

1884
01:49:33.359 --> 01:49:36.760
think I don't. They'll have star
Fucks, They'll love you know, Mario

1885
01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:40.399
Maker. Yeah, a lot of
stuff, but it's not going to be

1886
01:49:40.520 --> 01:49:44.800
huge, right yoh Yoshi right now. Maybe they'll have fire emblem. Yeah,

1887
01:49:44.840 --> 01:49:46.319
I mean they left games that,
you know, like for the people

1888
01:49:46.399 --> 01:49:50.079
that are checking for Nintendo in an
E three setting, They're going to have

1889
01:49:50.199 --> 01:49:54.760
plenty of games for that audience.
But in terms of like big headline grab

1890
01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:57.399
moments and all that other stuff,
like maybe they'll have some big new announcement

1891
01:49:57.399 --> 01:50:00.239
that'll psyche people out, but yeah, you know they I mean I don't

1892
01:50:00.239 --> 01:50:01.399
think they I don't think they have
to have that. Yeah, it's why

1893
01:50:01.399 --> 01:50:04.119
they have a direct instead of a
press conference. They're wisely going, like,

1894
01:50:04.359 --> 01:50:08.800
you know, we we speak directly
to our fans and and they like

1895
01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:12.159
us, and it's going fine on
that level. Like they they've you know,

1896
01:50:12.159 --> 01:50:15.479
they frequently run a direct where there
was like one game announcement or something.

1897
01:50:15.479 --> 01:50:17.680
You like Major's Mask three three DS
was like that was the sole big

1898
01:50:17.680 --> 01:50:20.159
news that came out of that particular
direct. Like even I think I feel

1899
01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:24.560
like even last year's E three direct
was not like choc a block with huge

1900
01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:27.520
new things. Right, well,
there were stuff, I mean, you

1901
01:50:27.520 --> 01:50:30.239
know the rest you had Mario Maker, you have things in there, But

1902
01:50:30.079 --> 01:50:31.439
in a lot of cases, it's
just like, you know, here's some

1903
01:50:31.479 --> 01:50:34.239
new footage from something we already announced. It's not necessarily like, right,

1904
01:50:34.319 --> 01:50:36.640
here's three new Mario games coming out
this fight. I think, you know,

1905
01:50:36.720 --> 01:50:40.920
like you have to applaud Nintendo for
like lifting themselves out of the fucking

1906
01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:44.159
rat race in a way that doesn't
actually make them look weak like they're they're

1907
01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:47.600
just they're talking to their people.
Yeah, they are preaching to the choir.

1908
01:50:47.800 --> 01:50:51.840
They are selling fine to those people, yeah, and biding their time

1909
01:50:51.880 --> 01:50:56.399
for whatever they're going to do next. On a next console Nintendo always like

1910
01:50:56.520 --> 01:50:58.560
just when you want to write them
off, they come back and surprise you

1911
01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:00.640
somehow. Yeah, I mean,
but you know they're they're doing it on

1912
01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:01.920
their own terms. Yeah, like
you know, not you don't have to

1913
01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:04.840
like, you know, no one
mentions them in the in this competition anyway.

1914
01:51:05.039 --> 01:51:09.119
No, but they don't have to
play in this whole like compare ourselves

1915
01:51:09.159 --> 01:51:11.880
to Microsoft and Sony. Again,
they've created their own thing. Well,

1916
01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:14.479
you know, like last year,
like on top of the direct like the

1917
01:51:14.600 --> 01:51:17.479
absurd runaway success of that Treehouse stream
that ran the whole length of the show

1918
01:51:18.119 --> 01:51:21.279
was like like if you'd ask me, NINTONA would have been the last company

1919
01:51:21.359 --> 01:51:25.000
to break ground on something like that. You know, But like here they

1920
01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:28.319
come surprising you again. You know. Yeah, yeah for sure. So

1921
01:51:28.840 --> 01:51:30.920
don't count them out yet. I
wonder how much they're saving by not running

1922
01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:34.079
out the Kodak Theater, Club Nokia
or whatever. Well last year there,

1923
01:51:34.079 --> 01:51:38.039
I mean, they're so they're still
doing the Nintendo World Championships. They're still

1924
01:51:38.079 --> 01:51:42.079
running out big spaces for that.
They had a thing for investors at that

1925
01:51:42.159 --> 01:51:45.720
theater last year, even though they
didn't have a regular press conference. Yeah,

1926
01:51:45.800 --> 01:51:51.199
so so like they're still they're still
they're spending money. But yeah,

1927
01:51:51.920 --> 01:51:57.640
three three catch it. Yeah,
we'll be there. We will next week.

1928
01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:00.960
M not here. There'll still be
a podcast. Yes, all right,

1929
01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:03.880
it's all the news I got.
Okay, let's take one more breather

1930
01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:06.399
and then come back from some email. I got a teaser here for you

1931
01:52:06.479 --> 01:52:09.920
on the on the other side of
this break. Huh, we're gonna talk

1932
01:52:09.960 --> 01:52:13.640
about metal Gear Solid five of the
Fantom Pain. We are, yes,

1933
01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:16.720
sound really confident about Okay, Fine, we'll take this break and I'll find

1934
01:52:16.720 --> 01:52:51.520
out and we're back and you're gonna
tell me about Medicure. I played it,

1935
01:52:53.119 --> 01:52:56.279
Solid five, the Fantom Pain.
That's the one you played. That's

1936
01:52:56.279 --> 01:52:59.720
the one I played. H yeah, I got to start at the beginning

1937
01:52:59.760 --> 01:53:04.079
of the game. They kind of
just talked about the game a little bit

1938
01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:13.119
and then set lose it. Yes, go on, it's cool, okay,

1939
01:53:14.039 --> 01:53:15.399
in the same way the ground Zeros
was cool. Yeah, And that

1940
01:53:15.439 --> 01:53:19.880
they've made this stealth sandbox thing where
you're tagging enemies. You know, it's

1941
01:53:19.960 --> 01:53:23.640
like Far Cry, but with metal
Gear mechanics or something. Right, Like

1942
01:53:23.680 --> 01:53:26.840
you're looking at an installation, you're
tagging enemies and then going like heroes,

1943
01:53:26.880 --> 01:53:29.439
how I'm going to fuck these guys
up. It's like far Cary, but

1944
01:53:29.479 --> 01:53:31.199
you can attach a balloon to a
tank then fly it away. Yeah,

1945
01:53:31.199 --> 01:53:33.720
so I wasn't able to do that
when at the start of the game you

1946
01:53:33.760 --> 01:53:38.600
actually don't have your Fulton system balloon
stuff. Yeah so so so it sounds

1947
01:53:38.600 --> 01:53:41.600
like what you played is the same
thing that I saw played in front of

1948
01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:45.199
me at E three last year.
But then they must have had like cheats

1949
01:53:45.239 --> 01:53:47.239
on because they were just running around
ballooning everything. Right, So you have

1950
01:53:47.239 --> 01:53:49.760
to upgrade your faulton stuff. So
at the start of the game you can

1951
01:53:49.760 --> 01:53:54.359
only really fault in troops, and
then you have to upgrade everything. You

1952
01:53:54.359 --> 01:53:56.880
have to you spend upgrade points to
get a cardboard box. You have to

1953
01:53:56.880 --> 01:54:01.720
research the cardboard box. Yes,
they unlocked the cardboard caboard boxes right now,

1954
01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:04.800
not in the way that makes it
easy for you to get in and

1955
01:54:04.800 --> 01:54:11.800
out of though. Down could you
have a pretty lady on the side that's

1956
01:54:11.800 --> 01:54:15.920
advanced technology? Doesn't doesn't this one
have like like you can pop up a

1957
01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:21.199
cardboard sandy of snake? I mean
I didn't see that there are multiple levels

1958
01:54:21.199 --> 01:54:25.119
of cardboard box for you, and
and and some of them are different camo

1959
01:54:25.159 --> 01:54:28.119
patterns. Yes, bred I think
you're thinking about the inflatable snake. Like

1960
01:54:28.119 --> 01:54:30.680
there's a guard next to a cliff
and you throw it out and like inflates

1961
01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:32.680
and knocks the guard off the cliff. We can also confuse them and make

1962
01:54:32.720 --> 01:54:35.840
them things, maybe, Yeah,
but it's a balloon. So all the

1963
01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:40.159
research stuff going on back at your
base, yeah, like it ties into

1964
01:54:40.239 --> 01:54:43.119
like the stuff you send back there
and the money you earn and all that

1965
01:54:43.119 --> 01:54:45.800
stuff is what you cash in on
research, right, Yeah? Is that

1966
01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:48.319
how that stuff works? And like
you you, it expends time, like

1967
01:54:48.359 --> 01:54:51.479
as you research, like there's a
yes, there will be time. I

1968
01:54:51.479 --> 01:54:55.119
don't want to say there's all that
free play style mechanic on it, but

1969
01:54:55.119 --> 01:54:58.199
there is straight up like or something, you know, like it takes time

1970
01:54:58.199 --> 01:55:00.000
for you to to unlock stuff in
here. But it's like some sort of

1971
01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:03.520
repeatable stuff, right. It feels
it seems like kind of building up your

1972
01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:06.279
mercenary force like it actually, so
I got the impression there would be side

1973
01:55:06.279 --> 01:55:10.039
missions and stuff like that that there
would always kind of be there to a

1974
01:55:10.079 --> 01:55:12.399
certain extent where you could, you
know, kind of just get out there

1975
01:55:12.399 --> 01:55:14.640
and run missions over and over again. Or I think you can just fly

1976
01:55:14.720 --> 01:55:16.000
out there and just fucking take guys
if you want. You know, you

1977
01:55:16.079 --> 01:55:18.359
kind of pick where you want the
helicopter to drop you off and just go.

1978
01:55:19.680 --> 01:55:23.159
But you probab might have to take
a side mission on there. Some

1979
01:55:23.239 --> 01:55:26.520
of the structural stuff, you know, was unclear because it is it is

1980
01:55:26.640 --> 01:55:29.680
pretty different in a sense. That's
kind of the thing like the you know,

1981
01:55:29.720 --> 01:55:33.000
the previous MGS games are so linear
and narrative driven. Yeah, the

1982
01:55:33.119 --> 01:55:35.760
idea, the idea to me that
this is like there's a lot more peace

1983
01:55:35.800 --> 01:55:39.600
Walker in this than I was expecting
is kind of crazy. And that's my

1984
01:55:39.720 --> 01:55:44.640
problem with the game is that it's
when I when I think about why I

1985
01:55:44.640 --> 01:55:46.680
come to metal Gear and what makes
metal Gear matter for me, it is

1986
01:55:46.800 --> 01:55:50.479
this big narrative thing. It is
the story of Snake, It is the

1987
01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:57.520
story of these other characters, and
and there's like Snake almost seems like a

1988
01:55:57.560 --> 01:56:00.039
silent protagonist for all for all the
time they spent getting and you know,

1989
01:56:00.079 --> 01:56:03.439
hey, I haven't seen the full
game, who knows where it ends up.

1990
01:56:03.479 --> 01:56:08.560
But in terms of like you know, there are cut scenes where there

1991
01:56:08.560 --> 01:56:13.399
are people very emphatically talking at Snake. I guess big I guess Big Boss

1992
01:56:13.399 --> 01:56:19.920
at this point, right whatever,
and in a way that deserves and would

1993
01:56:19.920 --> 01:56:26.000
elicit a response, but instead it's
just stoic Snake staring backs. Like it

1994
01:56:26.159 --> 01:56:30.000
was like like it was like he
was link, you know, not like

1995
01:56:30.079 --> 01:56:32.600
he's like being quiet on purpose,
because that's a cool way to be saying

1996
01:56:32.640 --> 01:56:36.760
Snake is the hero of time.
Yeah, exactly, Like it seems totally

1997
01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:40.680
out of place to me. Those
like what I saw when they show it

1998
01:56:40.680 --> 01:56:43.279
to D three last year. It
was the opening cut scene of him.

1999
01:56:43.359 --> 01:56:45.720
He was on a horse with somebody
else. Yeah, young young Ausselet.

2000
01:56:46.039 --> 01:56:49.359
It was like one new rap name
watching watching that whole thing the whole time,

2001
01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:57.359
like he's basically just monologue La Saska
in the house. Yeah, it

2002
01:56:57.399 --> 01:56:59.640
was. It was a very one
sided thing of just like I'm going to

2003
01:56:59.720 --> 01:57:01.319
dump this info on you and you
don't respond at all, and then you

2004
01:57:01.359 --> 01:57:06.079
go off and do a mission.
Yeah uh yeah, and you know the

2005
01:57:06.279 --> 01:57:10.039
after you finished that, that's like
a prologue mission. You're kind of do

2006
01:57:10.079 --> 01:57:12.840
you do that? Then you go
back to base, learn about how mother

2007
01:57:12.840 --> 01:57:15.279
bass works and how all the fultoning
and all this other stuff. Then it's

2008
01:57:15.319 --> 01:57:16.359
like, here's what the game really
is. And you're like, okay,

2009
01:57:16.359 --> 01:57:19.640
all right, now it makes sense. But like that, that's there's a

2010
01:57:19.640 --> 01:57:25.159
whole helicopter sequence where you're just getting
yelled at and Snake's just like staring,

2011
01:57:25.800 --> 01:57:29.319
and it just again like it just
doesn't fit, you know, the the

2012
01:57:30.079 --> 01:57:32.640
character doesn't fit the tone. It's
just it's it seems really weird. It

2013
01:57:32.680 --> 01:57:35.760
doesn't fit with the notion that they
went out and got a named actor to

2014
01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:41.079
do this stuff, other than maybe
the sessions went poorly or they didn't have

2015
01:57:41.159 --> 01:57:44.079
him for enough days, because like
I mean, it's it's not like,

2016
01:57:44.680 --> 01:57:47.079
oh his vocal cords got burned out
and you can't speak, because like when

2017
01:57:47.079 --> 01:57:50.279
you're riding around on a horse and
you stop, you you definitely hear the

2018
01:57:50.319 --> 01:57:55.600
guy from fucking Lost Boys or whatever
go whoa, whoa, Yeah, you

2019
01:57:55.640 --> 01:58:00.119
know, just stop the horse,
Jack Bauer. Yeah sure, And and

2020
01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:02.600
and it's just it's super out of
character for Snake too, like he's just

2021
01:58:02.680 --> 01:58:08.520
chatty motherfucker. More so he was
a little more silly. Yeah, I

2022
01:58:08.520 --> 01:58:10.720
guess, so, I guess there's
something a little more task turn about Big

2023
01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:13.279
Boss. And also a big boss
has seen some shit at this point,

2024
01:58:13.439 --> 01:58:16.560
so maybe he's just he's fuck that's
alright, alright, rational rationalize it whatever

2025
01:58:16.600 --> 01:58:19.920
you want, yea. And he
has weird metal in his face. I

2026
01:58:19.920 --> 01:58:23.439
mean, yes, you know,
maybe gets on top of him from time

2027
01:58:24.279 --> 01:58:28.840
character motivations, you could, but
and and maybe that'll pay off in a

2028
01:58:28.880 --> 01:58:30.479
way that makes sense by the end
of the game. But for me,

2029
01:58:30.680 --> 01:58:34.560
like playing the early parts of that
game, it just seemed off. It

2030
01:58:34.840 --> 01:58:38.880
seemed like not what I come to
metal Gear for. Maybe, and it

2031
01:58:38.920 --> 01:58:41.640
seemed fun on its own. And
if if they had said, like,

2032
01:58:41.640 --> 01:58:44.239
hey, this is peace Walker two, I would have been like, fucking

2033
01:58:44.279 --> 01:58:48.359
ay, absolutely, let's go.
Uh this this is super fun. Uh.

2034
01:58:48.399 --> 01:58:51.640
And and it doesn't necessarily need to
have a story because it's not metal

2035
01:58:51.720 --> 01:58:58.239
Gear Solid five, But by calling
it metal Gear Solid five, Uh,

2036
01:58:58.640 --> 01:59:01.520
it just seems really strange to man. I mean, considering how cinematic those

2037
01:59:01.560 --> 01:59:03.880
trailers are, Like, I mean, I think it's safe to say there's

2038
01:59:03.920 --> 01:59:10.680
going to be a big story with
this, how much like hearing from people

2039
01:59:10.680 --> 01:59:13.479
who have played deeper into the game
than I have, like, there are

2040
01:59:13.640 --> 01:59:16.960
certainly story moments, but it's a
lot of this really like, are you

2041
01:59:17.000 --> 01:59:20.439
saying it just straight up doesn't have
as much storytelling you? I don't know,

2042
01:59:20.560 --> 01:59:23.880
because games I haven't talked to anyone
who is finished. Well, no,

2043
01:59:24.319 --> 01:59:26.279
but you know, you play enough
hours of it you can or you

2044
01:59:26.279 --> 01:59:29.039
get deep enough in you can get
some. I feel I'm left with.

2045
01:59:29.119 --> 01:59:31.720
I'm left with the impression that you
know, there's there's more story to be

2046
01:59:31.800 --> 01:59:38.039
had, but not in the quantity
that you necessarily you're necessarily explaining out of

2047
01:59:38.039 --> 01:59:42.239
a Metal Gear game. Arguably those
old games were like primarily story well four

2048
01:59:42.359 --> 01:59:45.439
especially, so I'm going from like
the most exactly, and I really enjoyed

2049
01:59:45.560 --> 01:59:49.640
for for it's for being over the
top in that way and being totally out

2050
01:59:49.680 --> 01:59:55.000
of its own fucking mind, and
it was glorious. That game is is

2051
01:59:55.039 --> 01:59:58.960
nothing short of glass. I will
say this, I don't know that you

2052
01:59:59.000 --> 02:00:04.039
can out crazy Metal Solid four.
Maybe they understand, maybe maybe like in

2053
02:00:04.119 --> 02:00:09.079
this like this radical bout of self
awareness, could you even realize that he

2054
02:00:09.119 --> 02:00:12.640
had reached his limitations and he had
to do something different. Yeah, and

2055
02:00:12.680 --> 02:00:17.840
it's just like it did. Four
is fucking wild. Yeah, all that

2056
02:00:17.920 --> 02:00:23.119
TV shit they shot for no apparent
reason. Yeah, what an awesome fucking

2057
02:00:23.119 --> 02:00:27.479
game. It's a weird thing.
Let's just watch Solid Snakes smoke fucking cigarettes

2058
02:00:27.520 --> 02:00:30.119
for like an hour. So did
they ever pat did they patch that out?

2059
02:00:30.159 --> 02:00:32.000
Did they make it the whole game? And you don't see that stuff

2060
02:00:32.000 --> 02:00:39.680
anymod do that? That's almost unfortunate
in general's warnings flashing Yeah, uh oh,

2061
02:00:39.720 --> 02:00:42.319
oh my god, that game,
I can I can understand your complaint,

2062
02:00:42.399 --> 02:00:45.399
but like it's if it's not if
it's not as metal gear as it

2063
02:00:45.479 --> 02:00:47.840
used to be, but it's still
a fun game. I'm fine. It

2064
02:00:47.920 --> 02:00:51.119
definitely was, Like I definitely was. I love the way the Ground zero

2065
02:00:51.159 --> 02:00:55.359
is played, just like then then
you will like this because it is it

2066
02:00:55.439 --> 02:00:58.760
is that. Yeah, Like that
game is the Grand Tourismo prologue to this

2067
02:00:58.800 --> 02:01:00.800
being grant to reason, I tell
that from the E three demo last year.

2068
02:01:00.800 --> 02:01:03.039
But yeah, like I'm all in. Like if it's just you know,

2069
02:01:03.239 --> 02:01:05.880
if it's twenty more hours of ground
zeros with a lot more land mass

2070
02:01:05.920 --> 02:01:11.279
and more things to fulton, and
like I can set up more weird roadside

2071
02:01:11.279 --> 02:01:14.840
bombs and launch jeeps into wash towers
like you see the YouTube videos of them

2072
02:01:14.840 --> 02:01:16.760
stuff. I'm pretty sure that you
can absolutely do all that stuff. I'm

2073
02:01:16.760 --> 02:01:19.319
okay with that. Like at the
beginning of the game, you can't even

2074
02:01:19.359 --> 02:01:23.399
like you do the thing where you
grab the guys and and try to interrogate

2075
02:01:23.439 --> 02:01:27.039
them, but you don't speak Russian? Did they have you played the thing

2076
02:01:27.039 --> 02:01:32.479
like were you going in to save
Master Miller? Because that's that's so yeah,

2077
02:01:33.279 --> 02:01:39.880
and so like every time you try
to get them to talk, like

2078
02:01:40.000 --> 02:01:42.000
awesol Lot just comes on and goes
like, yeah, we really need to

2079
02:01:42.000 --> 02:01:45.600
find somebody that speaks Russian, because
uh, I can speak it. He

2080
02:01:45.640 --> 02:01:48.760
actually goes into extreme depth about,
hey, look I can speak Russian,

2081
02:01:48.960 --> 02:01:53.640
but look like translating at the same
time, that's a totally different skill and

2082
02:01:53.720 --> 02:01:56.199
I can't really do that reliably.
Like there's a lot of nuance like,

2083
02:01:56.199 --> 02:01:58.920
look, we're gonna need to find
somebody that's a translating of course. And

2084
02:01:58.920 --> 02:02:00.199
then like early on, like on
one of the side missions is like,

2085
02:02:00.359 --> 02:02:06.000
go fucking folding the translator. That's
pretty good. It's pretty good. That

2086
02:02:06.119 --> 02:02:11.840
sounds like a different but equally viable
vehicle for craziness. Yeah, maybe maybe

2087
02:02:11.960 --> 02:02:15.159
like that that's right up there with
like having to research cardboard boxes in the

2088
02:02:15.159 --> 02:02:17.600
sense that like, okay, maybe
the production values aren't insane. Maybe there

2089
02:02:17.600 --> 02:02:20.920
aren't two hour cutscenes anymore, but
like you can still get really ridiculous in

2090
02:02:21.039 --> 02:02:24.760
like mechanical ways. Yeah, like
having Big Boss make a horse poop on

2091
02:02:24.800 --> 02:02:27.720
the road to make a jeep spin
out and attaching a balloon to the jeep

2092
02:02:27.760 --> 02:02:30.159
to get so I didn't I couldn't
do that. There didn't see any I

2093
02:02:30.159 --> 02:02:33.399
didn't see any horse poop options.
I didn't ride a horse, but research

2094
02:02:33.439 --> 02:02:36.279
your horse. But the horse is
a buddy. You can pick a buddy

2095
02:02:36.319 --> 02:02:40.319
when you go into a mission if
you want the horse or like quiet,

2096
02:02:40.760 --> 02:02:44.199
Oh did you see quiet? So
when you first are like going on to

2097
02:02:44.239 --> 02:02:45.520
your first full mission, it's like, here's how the buddy system works.

2098
02:02:45.560 --> 02:02:49.319
You can take somebody you like one
lady or this horse. So so like,

2099
02:02:49.359 --> 02:02:51.880
how did she act as like sniper
support or something that's I think that's

2100
02:02:51.880 --> 02:02:56.800
the idea she will. So I
didn't have her and my thing or anything,

2101
02:02:56.800 --> 02:02:58.760
so I couldn't do that. But
it's like it showed her and I

2102
02:02:58.800 --> 02:03:00.920
think the implication was that she can
ark targets for you as well as do

2103
02:03:01.000 --> 02:03:03.960
some shooting, and she gets around
super fast and everything. But yeah,

2104
02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:06.439
you you know, I took the
horse because that's what I had. Yeah,

2105
02:03:06.720 --> 02:03:10.920
and you can totally fall off the
side or you know, lean off

2106
02:03:10.920 --> 02:03:15.439
the side of that horse for stealth
Horse stealth. So yeah, you know,

2107
02:03:15.520 --> 02:03:17.920
it's it's super cool and it's a
weird sandbox thing like but it's it's

2108
02:03:17.960 --> 02:03:20.800
like a bigger ground Zeros, you
know, and if you like that gameplay,

2109
02:03:20.960 --> 02:03:24.600
I suspect that you will probably enjoy
this a great time. I play

2110
02:03:24.640 --> 02:03:27.079
through Ground zero is like, yeah, six or seven times, because it's

2111
02:03:27.119 --> 02:03:30.000
that with a bunch of like like
base building shit too, you know of

2112
02:03:30.079 --> 02:03:35.680
like you know, bringing troops to
your thing and researching stuff and and all

2113
02:03:35.720 --> 02:03:39.640
that. Again, I don't think
they could top four, So I'm almost

2114
02:03:39.640 --> 02:03:42.880
more excited about a Metal Gear solid
that I've been like excited to play.

2115
02:03:42.960 --> 02:03:45.920
It's yeah, it's it's it's a
weird turnaround of like, you know,

2116
02:03:45.279 --> 02:03:48.239
you might be actually be excited to
play this game instead of like watch the

2117
02:03:48.239 --> 02:03:55.079
cut scenes and suffer through like like
trigger shit better about that stuff. But

2118
02:03:55.119 --> 02:03:58.840
you know, it was it's never
been the greatest playing series. It never

2119
02:03:59.159 --> 02:04:00.479
like by the time they were done
with four, it didn't need to be.

2120
02:04:00.840 --> 02:04:02.800
I know, I know, I
know, but like the idea that

2121
02:04:02.800 --> 02:04:05.760
it could actually be a fun video
game. Now I manished the buttons to

2122
02:04:05.800 --> 02:04:10.239
crawl through that tunnel. Yeah,
no, I remember, I think we

2123
02:04:10.319 --> 02:04:14.159
know into most experience in all the
video games right there. Yeah, I

2124
02:04:14.439 --> 02:04:16.000
think when Metal Gear two came out, I think it was a very very

2125
02:04:16.039 --> 02:04:18.279
good playing game. I remember getting
that demo is out of the enders.

2126
02:04:18.319 --> 02:04:21.960
Like the amount of ship control.
It's hard to go back to now.

2127
02:04:23.119 --> 02:04:25.640
At the time I found out,
you're right. At the time I thought

2128
02:04:25.800 --> 02:04:29.600
something about strut F I thought you're
right, You're right. I thought it

2129
02:04:29.640 --> 02:04:31.800
was a fantastic game. Yeah,
all the first person shooting and all that

2130
02:04:31.800 --> 02:04:34.000
stuff, the stuff you could do
to the guards, but the control scheme

2131
02:04:34.079 --> 02:04:38.039
is very difficult to revisit going back
to. Yes, but in two thousand

2132
02:04:38.039 --> 02:04:41.600
and one it was fucking awesome.
Yes, all right, Well, let's

2133
02:04:41.560 --> 02:04:45.960
good to have heard your thoughts on
this. Yeah, it's it definitely.

2134
02:04:47.640 --> 02:04:50.720
It left me disappointed in some ways
but excited in others. Like I came

2135
02:04:50.760 --> 02:04:55.119
away with it with very mixed reactions. I was just just a lot a

2136
02:04:55.119 --> 02:04:57.680
lot of like, this is not
the like, this is not what I

2137
02:04:57.720 --> 02:05:01.800
want out of a Metal Gear game. But it's a really neat uh and

2138
02:05:02.000 --> 02:05:04.920
you know, I mean maybe part
of that's just again because they put a

2139
02:05:04.960 --> 02:05:10.239
five on it instead of kind of
saying, like, here's a weird open

2140
02:05:10.279 --> 02:05:13.840
world side game we're making. Middle
Gear Solid five is just gonna be a

2141
02:05:13.920 --> 02:05:19.199
forty two episode Ova. Okay,
I got five on it. I can

2142
02:05:19.319 --> 02:05:23.279
I can live with that. Yeah, I think, yeah, maybe this

2143
02:05:23.319 --> 02:05:26.840
is a maybe this is the game
that finally broke his relationship with the management.

2144
02:05:28.079 --> 02:05:30.800
Yeah, maybe maybe his plans were
so well, I mean, the

2145
02:05:30.079 --> 02:05:33.800
tim timing in the case that has
to have been the case. Yeah,

2146
02:05:33.800 --> 02:05:36.479
I mean, well, you know, there's a lot of what I mean

2147
02:05:36.560 --> 02:05:39.840
is like, you know, maybe
they didn't get as much keep for Sutherland

2148
02:05:39.880 --> 02:05:42.840
and whatever else they wanted in there
because things were starting to fall apart.

2149
02:05:42.880 --> 02:05:46.439
Who knows. That might be a
completely naive theory, but yeah, I

2150
02:05:46.479 --> 02:05:49.760
don't know, it's there was.
There was a lot of Cogima Productions logos

2151
02:05:49.800 --> 02:05:53.960
in that game. We'll see,
Yes, we will see a lot of

2152
02:05:53.960 --> 02:06:04.399
things before then. Let's take a
few emails. Yeah those oh BombCast at

2153
02:06:04.439 --> 02:06:08.439
johnbomb dot com. We'll read a
few here as we are running out of

2154
02:06:08.439 --> 02:06:16.680
time. Let's see this one comes
in from McConnell in Scotland. I was

2155
02:06:16.720 --> 02:06:21.439
wondering about your opinion on the recent
spate of games being announced or at least

2156
02:06:21.479 --> 02:06:26.600
teased before E three. It seems
weird to me that for an industry event

2157
02:06:26.640 --> 02:06:29.800
that big, that games would rather
trick out a trickle out news of titles

2158
02:06:29.800 --> 02:06:32.880
beforehand rather than have that big wow
factor when games are announced at the conference,

2159
02:06:32.920 --> 02:06:36.880
potentially making themselves the winner of E
three as it were. Of course,

2160
02:06:36.920 --> 02:06:40.159
I'm an outsider looking in rather than
looking at it from the inside.

2161
02:06:40.159 --> 02:06:42.680
Don't get me wrong. I understand
the reasons as to why publishers may want

2162
02:06:42.680 --> 02:06:45.680
to do this an entire news cycle
that gets taken up by them. They're

2163
02:06:45.720 --> 02:06:49.439
not competing for coverage and having a
short time in spotlight, but it feels

2164
02:06:49.479 --> 02:06:54.359
kind of weird to risk cutting yourself
off if you're doing your own conference with

2165
02:06:54.439 --> 02:06:58.359
less surprises. I think he's mainly
talking about fallout here. There's no such

2166
02:06:58.359 --> 02:07:00.199
thing as winning E three. That's, you know, like it's it's all

2167
02:07:00.239 --> 02:07:03.840
about the only winning coming out of
E three is how many pre orders did

2168
02:07:03.840 --> 02:07:06.720
your game get sure, you know, or other metrics like that, you

2169
02:07:06.760 --> 02:07:11.239
know, and if they can get
out there with something like Fallout and dominate

2170
02:07:11.279 --> 02:07:14.880
a day and and point people to
that stuff, then that's going to be

2171
02:07:15.159 --> 02:07:18.039
just as big as whatever. I
think Fallouts a case, it would have

2172
02:07:18.039 --> 02:07:21.720
been big at E three also,
but it may still be like they could

2173
02:07:21.720 --> 02:07:25.479
just two bumps here, depending on
depending on what they show. Sure,

2174
02:07:25.520 --> 02:07:29.880
but like Fallout is the weird outlier
for me because like let's say if it

2175
02:07:29.880 --> 02:07:32.760
had been dishonor two that they announced
like that totally seems like a you know,

2176
02:07:32.760 --> 02:07:34.760
a week and a half before E
three, let's blow it out for

2177
02:07:34.760 --> 02:07:39.560
a day. The Fallout, especially
when you've got your own stage, like

2178
02:07:39.560 --> 02:07:42.680
you went to the trouble of reserving
your own stage, but when they've got

2179
02:07:42.960 --> 02:07:45.359
when they've got so much stuff leaking
out, Like I'm actually surprised that they

2180
02:07:45.439 --> 02:07:49.960
put a trailer out as that has
as much as they did instead of just

2181
02:07:50.000 --> 02:07:54.880
like a press releases, Hey we're
making fall Out four and you can see

2182
02:07:54.880 --> 02:07:58.880
it at our thing. I figured
that this would be a very brief tease

2183
02:07:59.079 --> 02:08:01.239
that said like be sure to come
back for our thing on Sundays, Like

2184
02:08:01.279 --> 02:08:05.319
maybe they were maybe they weren't seeing
the uptick in like people thinking that they

2185
02:08:05.359 --> 02:08:09.479
were gonna watch this as the press
conference, they need to get the word

2186
02:08:09.479 --> 02:08:11.800
out about that a little bit bigger. Well, you know, that's exactly

2187
02:08:11.880 --> 02:08:13.439
did this. That's exactly what they
did with Doom, Right, It's like

2188
02:08:13.439 --> 02:08:18.159
that weird five second clip of footage, yeah, saying hey come back at

2189
02:08:18.159 --> 02:08:20.960
E three, So exactly. So
I figured this was going to be more

2190
02:08:20.960 --> 02:08:24.760
along the lines of that. Total
this turned into something a little bit bigger

2191
02:08:24.760 --> 02:08:26.399
than maybe, you know, I
didn't even thought of that. Maybe it

2192
02:08:26.399 --> 02:08:28.119
was a game time decision to just
run the whole trailer because like you said,

2193
02:08:28.159 --> 02:08:31.760
things were leaking, damn, and
like you know, it seemed maybe

2194
02:08:31.760 --> 02:08:33.680
they were just like, all right, let's just go with this. Let's

2195
02:08:33.680 --> 02:08:35.439
just go with this and just control
what we can of it from here.

2196
02:08:35.439 --> 02:08:41.439
And yeah, but yeah, I
think that, you know that it's one

2197
02:08:41.439 --> 02:08:45.159
of those things where like the concept
of a winner of E three is something

2198
02:08:45.199 --> 02:08:48.399
that only people on message boards.
So yeah, I can't really care about

2199
02:08:48.439 --> 02:08:50.520
I think it's not it's not real. There's something. There is something to

2200
02:08:50.640 --> 02:08:54.880
the rush at the press conference,
as though just one big thing after another.

2201
02:08:54.039 --> 02:08:56.159
And if you can come out of
E three being like this is the

2202
02:08:56.159 --> 02:09:00.119
game that was tweeted about the most
like some kind of actual metric then you

2203
02:09:00.199 --> 02:09:01.880
can feel good about, like,
well, the team can feel good about

2204
02:09:03.039 --> 02:09:03.880
we're on the right track and we're
doing this thing. Hey we won these

2205
02:09:03.920 --> 02:09:11.600
awards, Like there's certainly value in
that, but E three is not what

2206
02:09:11.600 --> 02:09:13.680
it used to be. Yeah,
as a consumer, I think that these

2207
02:09:13.720 --> 02:09:18.279
early reveals are like you know,
peeking out your peeking at your presence before

2208
02:09:18.359 --> 02:09:20.439
Christmas, because like I kind of
like E three being this special week every

2209
02:09:20.520 --> 02:09:22.640
year where it's like, oh my
god, this game and then this game

2210
02:09:22.680 --> 02:09:26.359
and then this game. Like I
kind of like not knowing, like I

2211
02:09:26.399 --> 02:09:28.079
wish I would have found out about
Fallout for while I was watching it,

2212
02:09:28.279 --> 02:09:31.399
Like you're kind of riding like a
weeklong high of excitement, right because but

2213
02:09:31.479 --> 02:09:33.960
just the news just doesn't stop.
The thing is is also like you know,

2214
02:09:35.000 --> 02:09:39.239
taking you as like in the consumer
of saying you weren't doing this and

2215
02:09:39.439 --> 02:09:41.279
that that's how you want and weren't
doing this for a living, rather and

2216
02:09:41.319 --> 02:09:46.640
saying that that's how you want that
information delivered, Like you're in a subset

2217
02:09:46.880 --> 02:09:50.720
of the overall player base that will
consume this information regardless of what time of

2218
02:09:50.720 --> 02:09:54.000
the year it's released. A good
point, and you don't like, you

2219
02:09:54.000 --> 02:09:58.239
don't matter, Like you're you're the
choir. You're going to find out about

2220
02:09:58.279 --> 02:10:01.399
this ship one way or the message
I'm gonna take, regardless of when they

2221
02:10:01.399 --> 02:10:05.760
announce it, it doesn't matter.
So they're playing for the larger audience.

2222
02:10:05.760 --> 02:10:09.279
They have to try to drag in
the mainstream people and get them interested and

2223
02:10:09.319 --> 02:10:15.039
excited in these games they may not
have heard about. And so the vast

2224
02:10:15.079 --> 02:10:18.199
majority of marketing and stuff like that
seems to geared to reach them. That

2225
02:10:18.279 --> 02:10:22.560
makes sense because like, the people
that live and breathe this shit every day

2226
02:10:22.680 --> 02:10:26.600
are going to know it one way
or the other. It's why exclusives don't

2227
02:10:26.640 --> 02:10:30.079
happen the same way anymore. Like
you know, like publishers buying ads on

2228
02:10:30.119 --> 02:10:31.760
big game websites, It's like,
look, anyone still visiting a big game

2229
02:10:31.800 --> 02:10:35.640
website in this day and age is
going to know about our fucking game.

2230
02:10:37.119 --> 02:10:41.159
And I think that's the mentality shift
that has finally kind of happened. So,

2231
02:10:41.479 --> 02:10:43.600
you know, these other outlets,
these other places to spend your money,

2232
02:10:43.840 --> 02:10:46.640
you know, if you're advertising games, like you know, it's just

2233
02:10:46.680 --> 02:10:48.199
buy a bunch of ads on Facebook
that say come watch our press conference,

2234
02:10:48.520 --> 02:10:52.039
you know, try to get these
people that might not know about it otherwise

2235
02:10:52.119 --> 02:10:56.680
in because like the people that know
what E three is, yeah, they

2236
02:10:56.720 --> 02:11:01.239
already know all this you were as
something I want to know all this shit.

2237
02:11:01.439 --> 02:11:05.520
Yeah, so they don't. They
don't actually matter the same way that

2238
02:11:05.520 --> 02:11:09.039
that people might think they matter,
just not in an early advertising sense exactly.

2239
02:11:09.119 --> 02:11:11.760
Like the awareness there, Yeah,
the awareness is already there. Whereas

2240
02:11:11.760 --> 02:11:16.239
a casual person who's not going to
these websites but loads up YouTube videos every

2241
02:11:16.279 --> 02:11:18.039
day might see the Fallout trailer before
YouTube and then they're like, oh shit,

2242
02:11:18.119 --> 02:11:20.000
this new fall Out, I need
to go pre order that right now.

2243
02:11:20.079 --> 02:11:24.119
My favorite retailer. It is.
It is really easy if you're if

2244
02:11:24.119 --> 02:11:26.239
you're in this line of work,
if you like inhabit video game message boards

2245
02:11:26.239 --> 02:11:30.560
every day, it's really easy to
forget that. Like there are people out

2246
02:11:30.560 --> 02:11:33.600
there that buy consoles and buy like
two games a year and like live their

2247
02:11:33.600 --> 02:11:35.680
lives and don't consume video game information
every single day. And it's like,

2248
02:11:37.479 --> 02:11:39.159
you know, it might be a
month or two prior to fall Out for

2249
02:11:39.319 --> 02:11:41.800
is released before a lot of those
people realize that even exists, you know,

2250
02:11:41.880 --> 02:11:45.600
but but they they know the name
enough to say like, yeah,

2251
02:11:45.600 --> 02:11:48.079
I'll get the new Fallout game.
Yeah, I've known plenty people that will

2252
02:11:48.119 --> 02:11:50.520
have like PlayStation and Xbox, but
like you said, you know, won't

2253
02:11:50.520 --> 02:11:52.039
know what E three is, right, So yeah, they shouldn't have to.

2254
02:11:52.359 --> 02:11:54.439
Yeah. Yeah, that's why I
like you know that. That's why

2255
02:11:54.560 --> 02:12:00.079
like game box art still matters from
a gross marketing perspective, because you know,

2256
02:12:00.119 --> 02:12:01.119
in a lot of cases they're trying
to sell games to people who have

2257
02:12:01.199 --> 02:12:03.640
barely or never heard of them.
You know. Yeah, like the remember

2258
02:12:03.960 --> 02:12:07.840
Ken Lavine talking about that with the
BioShock Infinite cover or just Dude with the

2259
02:12:07.840 --> 02:12:09.000
Gun. Well you know what,
it says that it's gonna sell more if

2260
02:12:09.000 --> 02:12:11.640
it's dude with the gun, So
we have to kind of do that.

2261
02:12:11.960 --> 02:12:18.960
Yeah yeah, all right. Nick
from Minneapolis. Is there some reason or

2262
02:12:18.039 --> 02:12:22.920
history why you record the podcast on
Monday but act like it's Tuesday. We're

2263
02:12:22.920 --> 02:12:26.000
all adults here, we can handle
the truth. I don't know what you're

2264
02:12:26.000 --> 02:12:30.319
talking about, trying to be good
weather out here on Tuesday. Who's hot

2265
02:12:30.319 --> 02:12:31.880
on Monday? How's you were all
last night? Jeff? Yeah? Great,

2266
02:12:33.319 --> 02:12:37.479
what a great show. I love
I love Tuesdays. It's my favorite

2267
02:12:37.520 --> 02:12:41.600
day of the week. I had
tacos at lunch today. Wow, yeah,

2268
02:12:41.640 --> 02:12:43.479
it's the day for it. It
is, It's my favorite day for

2269
02:12:43.520 --> 02:12:52.119
tacos. I got a great deal, all right? Moving on? Uh.

2270
02:12:52.279 --> 02:12:56.199
Next email comes from Woody and Sydney, Australia. What a case you're

2271
02:12:56.239 --> 02:13:01.079
wondering right something about paid fall Out
format. With the announcement of fall Out

2272
02:13:01.079 --> 02:13:05.000
four and the recent failure of the
Steam paid mods system, will Valvin Bethesda

2273
02:13:05.079 --> 02:13:09.520
use this opportunity to try and successfully
implement the paid mods system again. One

2274
02:13:09.520 --> 02:13:13.600
of the issues cited in the implementation
of the sky Room debacle was the introduction

2275
02:13:13.600 --> 02:13:16.960
of paid mods in an already existing
community. Seeing how fall Out four is

2276
02:13:18.000 --> 02:13:20.640
sort of a fresh start, do
you think this might be the chance where

2277
02:13:20.640 --> 02:13:22.600
paid mods will be accepted? If
not, when do you think is the

2278
02:13:22.640 --> 02:13:26.479
ideal opportunity? Oh? Maybe,
I don't know. I could see it,

2279
02:13:26.560 --> 02:13:28.680
yeah, coming back, I think
it's it's you know, like,

2280
02:13:28.720 --> 02:13:33.279
I just don't know. Is that
a different community and it's a different game

2281
02:13:33.319 --> 02:13:37.239
obviously, but like the people that
mod Bethesda's games, is it kind of

2282
02:13:37.239 --> 02:13:39.479
the same crowd? Sure, some
of the same problems. There's totally people

2283
02:13:39.479 --> 02:13:41.600
moving from game to game. I
think you know, the key is just

2284
02:13:41.640 --> 02:13:45.520
setting the expectations out of the gate, right Sure. Yeah, I guess

2285
02:13:45.560 --> 02:13:48.359
like if you kind of lay the
ground work from day one, ye'll see.

2286
02:13:48.399 --> 02:13:50.560
I don't know. That doesn't mean
there aren't still a lot of people

2287
02:13:50.560 --> 02:13:54.399
who won't like it. Sure,
but if you if you're gonna do it

2288
02:13:54.439 --> 02:13:56.000
and you're gonna stick to your guns, it makes it makes a lot more

2289
02:13:56.000 --> 02:14:01.239
sense to do it fresh with a
new game like that, Yeah, because

2290
02:14:01.239 --> 02:14:05.119
then you don't want to have mods
that are like freely available in some stage

2291
02:14:05.159 --> 02:14:07.319
of development, and then you're like, well, everything after this update is

2292
02:14:07.359 --> 02:14:09.960
now paid for like that. That's
kind of a weird one. Yes.

2293
02:14:11.279 --> 02:14:16.840
Alex in Brighton England writes in about
that Mario puzz and Drag ooh Yo puzzle

2294
02:14:16.880 --> 02:14:20.399
fans, what do you think of
the insane difficulty curves in the three DS

2295
02:14:20.439 --> 02:14:24.239
Puzzle and Dragon games. I understand
the logic and throwing walls into the players

2296
02:14:24.319 --> 02:14:28.159
progression and they free to play pay
to win business model, since that's how

2297
02:14:28.199 --> 02:14:31.159
you ring the dollars out of people. But it seems like this same exact

2298
02:14:31.239 --> 02:14:35.119
curve has been lifted and dumped into
the three DS version resulting in some very

2299
02:14:35.199 --> 02:14:39.840
jarring difficulty spikes. How are you
getting past these? Or are my puzzle

2300
02:14:39.880 --> 02:14:43.079
skills just weak? Yeah? That's
Jeff, How far are you getting that?

2301
02:14:43.119 --> 02:14:46.039
Not much further? Okay, right
now I'm on like World five or

2302
02:14:46.079 --> 02:14:48.039
six, I want to say,
And yeah, I think it's like near

2303
02:14:48.079 --> 02:14:50.840
the end of like World two.
I think might be the Castle of World

2304
02:14:50.880 --> 02:14:56.960
two where it spikes hard and it's
they have continues in there. You can

2305
02:14:56.960 --> 02:14:58.960
get those green one up mushrooms.
But I kind of feel like I failed

2306
02:15:00.039 --> 02:15:01.960
if I use one of those,
so like I do not use any of

2307
02:15:01.960 --> 02:15:05.199
those ever. So yeah, I'll
have to like play a dungeon or like

2308
02:15:05.239 --> 02:15:09.439
a castle or a world or something
eight nine times and fiddle with different teams

2309
02:15:09.439 --> 02:15:11.079
and helpers and level them up before
I even have a chance. Yeah.

2310
02:15:11.880 --> 02:15:13.319
Yeah, And sometimes it does kind
of come down to a luck of the

2311
02:15:13.359 --> 02:15:16.439
draw thing. So it's like I'll
decide, like, well, my team

2312
02:15:16.439 --> 02:15:18.680
of all dark dudes didn't get the
job done, so let me go with

2313
02:15:18.720 --> 02:15:22.840
my big you know, wood team
or whatever, and then just kind of

2314
02:15:22.880 --> 02:15:26.560
hope that you get a bunch of
wood icons. Would team would tea Yeah,

2315
02:15:26.600 --> 02:15:30.439
so it spikes real hard. I
have not gotten tired of playing it,

2316
02:15:30.439 --> 02:15:31.399
though, Does it does it feel
like a free to play game to

2317
02:15:31.439 --> 02:15:35.520
you? Though? Like, does
it feel like they just couldn't stop making

2318
02:15:35.560 --> 02:15:39.479
games in that mold so they just
threw that kind of I don't have enough

2319
02:15:39.600 --> 02:15:43.319
patience for free to play games that
do those crazy difficulty spikes in an effort

2320
02:15:43.359 --> 02:15:46.520
to get money out of you,
So I guess I haven't played enough of

2321
02:15:46.520 --> 02:15:48.239
those to kind of know what that
feels like. Who wasn't I can't remember

2322
02:15:48.680 --> 02:15:52.760
somebody telling me this recently where I
read it somewhere that there's like apparently a

2323
02:15:52.800 --> 02:15:54.840
point in Candy Crush where you just
cannot continue if you don't spend money,

2324
02:15:56.600 --> 02:16:01.720
Like it's like effectively impossible to keep
progressing because of the difficulty or something like

2325
02:16:01.760 --> 02:16:03.359
that. I wish I had a
source for that. I swear that I

2326
02:16:03.359 --> 02:16:07.439
read that recently. I thought it
was something that's like it's definitely a spike,

2327
02:16:07.560 --> 02:16:09.680
like there's a way through it,
but or even even if it's not

2328
02:16:09.800 --> 02:16:13.479
literally impossible, like to make it
so unpleasant, like I've certainly played for

2329
02:16:13.600 --> 02:16:16.760
to play games like that where it's
just like, well, yeah, it's

2330
02:16:16.760 --> 02:16:18.279
you know, I could keep going, but I could grind out all this

2331
02:16:18.319 --> 02:16:20.880
current or I've even I've even bought
games, you know. I granted it

2332
02:16:20.880 --> 02:16:22.880
was like a ninety nine cent game
or whatever, so it's not like there's

2333
02:16:22.880 --> 02:16:26.039
a huge barrier to entry. But
like, uh, like Field Runners two

2334
02:16:26.039 --> 02:16:28.319
stands out in my mind as like, oh, I bought that game and

2335
02:16:28.359 --> 02:16:31.440
it was cool, but like four
missions into it, it was so hard.

2336
02:16:31.440 --> 02:16:33.879
I felt like I had to start
buying yeah, yeah, items to

2337
02:16:35.079 --> 02:16:35.959
help myself, you know, And
it's at that point I'm just like,

2338
02:16:37.000 --> 02:16:41.040
Nope. Hearing people describe that with
like candy crush and everything, I don't

2339
02:16:41.079 --> 02:16:43.920
think Marin puzzling Dragons is that extreme. I mean you'll you'll definitely feel it,

2340
02:16:43.959 --> 02:16:48.200
but it's not like insurmountable. All
Right, that's good to hear.

2341
02:16:50.120 --> 02:16:54.040
I keep thinking about trying that.
It's great. It's really good. Maybe

2342
02:16:54.840 --> 02:16:56.440
no, I mean it's really good. No, I mean maybe I will

2343
02:16:56.479 --> 02:17:00.760
Okay, I mean maybe you know
what you're talking about up. Nope,

2344
02:17:00.879 --> 02:17:07.200
no guarantees there. Next email comes
comes in from d MS way into people

2345
02:17:07.239 --> 02:17:13.879
just signing their initials to their emails. Hello bombcasters go on, Remember how

2346
02:17:13.879 --> 02:17:18.879
Super Mario Sunshine was basically an anti
graffiti game. Did Miyamoto take up bombing

2347
02:17:18.879 --> 02:17:22.040
as a hobby or what the heck
happened between then and Splatoon? Yes,

2348
02:17:22.200 --> 02:17:26.040
Miamoto and Mark Echo got together.
They've been getting up. Yeah, they've

2349
02:17:26.079 --> 02:17:33.159
been getting up. One color throw
ups, two color throw ups, wheat

2350
02:17:33.200 --> 02:17:35.719
pasting. What could be a prequel
roll ups? Could it? It could

2351
02:17:35.719 --> 02:17:41.239
all be Delfino Island. Yeah,
sure, Delfina Island skate Park. Yeah,

2352
02:17:41.680 --> 02:17:45.680
sure about that. That would be
the most disappointing reveal ever if they

2353
02:17:45.760 --> 02:17:48.879
pulled back and went like a,
here's just said. In the world of

2354
02:17:48.959 --> 02:17:52.399
Super Mario Sunshine, you hit level
thirty and Bowser Junior comes out, Yeah,

2355
02:17:52.760 --> 02:17:56.399
and just fucking Mario just shows up
and stomps all these squids into submission.

2356
02:17:56.440 --> 02:17:58.000
It's like, oh, right,
can you go to thirty? I

2357
02:17:58.040 --> 02:18:01.239
don't know, Max, I seen
his twenty. Yeah, I thought twenty

2358
02:18:01.280 --> 02:18:03.079
was the gap. Did you guys
play any more of the single player not?

2359
02:18:03.280 --> 02:18:05.639
I haven't done a lot. I
know we discussed it briefly last week,

2360
02:18:05.680 --> 02:18:09.559
but like again, I thought that
first mission was super boring and I

2361
02:18:09.600 --> 02:18:13.440
didn't go back to the campaign stuff. But people keep saying like, oh,

2362
02:18:13.479 --> 02:18:16.760
the last two missions are elections?
Are really good. Some of the

2363
02:18:16.799 --> 02:18:18.120
boss fights are incredible. That's the
main thing I want to see as the

2364
02:18:18.159 --> 02:18:20.680
boss fights is Yeah, because the
standard missions didn't do much for me,

2365
02:18:20.840 --> 02:18:22.959
I'll wind up playing through it all
right, all right, I will be

2366
02:18:24.000 --> 02:18:30.600
curious to hear what you say.
Greg from Toronto. Dan and Sushi m

2367
02:18:31.399 --> 02:18:35.120
listening to last week's bomb cast talking
about restaurants in LA and Dan is raving

2368
02:18:35.120 --> 02:18:39.000
about sushi places. Let me get
this straight. Dan won't eat figs because

2369
02:18:39.040 --> 02:18:41.799
they might have microscopic dissolved insects.
He won't eat mayo, the whitest and

2370
02:18:41.920 --> 02:18:48.159
blandest condiment known to man. But
he will eat goddamn sushi, raw fish,

2371
02:18:48.360 --> 02:18:52.319
crazy foreign sauces. Not a barbecue
in sight. This is what gets

2372
02:18:52.360 --> 02:18:56.280
in under Dan's radar. Who is
this man and what lunatic sylum did you

2373
02:18:56.360 --> 02:18:58.760
bring him from? You're supposed to
eat fish, Okay, meat, all

2374
02:18:58.840 --> 02:19:03.399
right? Bugs ain't meat. Bugs
literally are meat, I know, but

2375
02:19:03.440 --> 02:19:09.799
no one called you wouldn't find a
grasshopper and that got me. Not yet

2376
02:19:09.799 --> 02:19:13.920
technically, but eventually, eventually we'll
be getting like grasshopper, just patties and

2377
02:19:13.959 --> 02:19:18.120
that'll be in the meat section when
they sell Its gross you can order protein

2378
02:19:18.120 --> 02:19:22.680
bars that are just bug protein.
Yep, that's a weird thing, but

2379
02:19:22.719 --> 02:19:26.079
the rawness doesn't weird you out.
Like when I when I say I have

2380
02:19:26.120 --> 02:19:28.079
sushi, it usually is of the
like I'll go across the street and get

2381
02:19:28.079 --> 02:19:31.159
the California Rolls or whatever, where
it's like avocado and cream cheese, and

2382
02:19:31.200 --> 02:19:33.799
I don't know if there's any actual
like imitation crab or we're not getting.

2383
02:19:35.799 --> 02:19:39.879
That's almost scarier if you're getting like
you don't even it's not even real fish,

2384
02:19:39.040 --> 02:19:41.680
Like what are you even getting?
Like what is that? I need

2385
02:19:41.719 --> 02:19:43.040
to be fair, not all sushi
has raw raw stuff in it, right,

2386
02:19:43.079 --> 02:19:46.040
But I've had you know, real
raw sushi plenty of times. I

2387
02:19:46.079 --> 02:19:50.479
remember, like when I went to
Japan for the first time, I told

2388
02:19:50.520 --> 02:19:52.760
myself that, like, okay,
this is a big, crazy trip.

2389
02:19:52.040 --> 02:19:56.040
I'm not going to recognize what any
of this food is. Nothing is gonna

2390
02:19:56.360 --> 02:19:58.600
like like here, I have context
for stuff. I know that, Like

2391
02:19:58.680 --> 02:20:01.159
I don't want to try Manna's.
I don't tric hour cream. I've seen

2392
02:20:01.200 --> 02:20:03.040
that stuff before I knew in Japan, like I would have no way of

2393
02:20:03.040 --> 02:20:07.639
even learning what the hell these things
were or if they even had these flavors

2394
02:20:07.680 --> 02:20:09.520
in the States. So I told
myself, I'm just going to eat everything

2395
02:20:09.600 --> 02:20:13.319
in Japan and not ask questions.
This is the one time I can just

2396
02:20:13.360 --> 02:20:16.479
put away all my stupid food stuff
and just do it. And I remember

2397
02:20:16.520 --> 02:20:18.600
I got on this boat. It
was a super ill fated Vita boat.

2398
02:20:18.959 --> 02:20:24.440
The Vita boat. Yeah, listening
to the bottom of it was a nightmare.

2399
02:20:24.799 --> 02:20:26.920
Oh my god. That was the
worst, the absolute worst. Like

2400
02:20:26.920 --> 02:20:31.280
like a bunch of overseas journalists out
there on the middle of the water to

2401
02:20:31.280 --> 02:20:33.360
see the Vita. What they have, like two Vidas, and so you

2402
02:20:33.399 --> 02:20:35.360
get on a bus, you get
We got on two buses, a bunch

2403
02:20:35.360 --> 02:20:39.799
of journalists, and the buses it
took like an hour plus or something to

2404
02:20:39.799 --> 02:20:41.239
get out there, and they got
lost to one point, and so we

2405
02:20:41.360 --> 02:20:43.840
were lost and everything. We finally
get out to these boats and the whole

2406
02:20:43.840 --> 02:20:46.639
point is to play the Vita and
they're gonna have exclusive stuff there or we

2407
02:20:46.680 --> 02:20:50.239
played it and then wrote about it
or whatever. And yeah, so we've

2408
02:20:50.239 --> 02:20:54.760
got forty or fifty US journalists out
there and like three Vitas. Like the

2409
02:20:54.760 --> 02:20:58.559
whole time, it's like this whole
you're trapped on a boat dropped on a

2410
02:20:58.559 --> 02:21:00.680
boat for a long ass time,
and then the long trip back on the

2411
02:21:00.680 --> 02:21:03.399
buses and everything, and this whole
thing they probably spanned like four or five

2412
02:21:03.639 --> 02:21:07.840
maybe more hours at night, or
it could have been getting a lot of

2413
02:21:07.840 --> 02:21:11.760
work done. I think I watched
someone over their shoulder play sound shapes for

2414
02:21:11.799 --> 02:21:13.319
like fifteen minutes, and that's all
I could get out of it. Man

2415
02:21:13.639 --> 02:21:16.120
cool. I think I might have
touched a vita at one point. But

2416
02:21:16.440 --> 02:21:22.239
it was the absolute most disaster media
event I've ever seen in six seven years,

2417
02:21:22.239 --> 02:21:24.559
and doing what did you eat on
the boat? That was the thing

2418
02:21:24.639 --> 02:21:28.520
is they started before they brought the
vitas out with like, okay, do

2419
02:21:28.639 --> 02:21:31.360
this thing where you sit down,
like you have to sit underneath this table

2420
02:21:31.360 --> 02:21:33.239
thing, and we're just gonna bring
out this crazy shit constantly. And it

2421
02:21:33.280 --> 02:21:37.559
was really weird looking sushi and I
ate all of it, and a lot

2422
02:21:37.600 --> 02:21:39.760
of it did seem really gross,
you know. Some of it had like

2423
02:21:39.879 --> 02:21:43.639
what looked like full you know,
fish in it and stuff like with their

2424
02:21:43.680 --> 02:21:46.840
beads and eyes and all that crap. And yeah, I would take like

2425
02:21:46.840 --> 02:21:48.120
a bite, just said I did
it. I didn't necessarily like it,

2426
02:21:48.239 --> 02:21:52.319
but but I tried it all.
So that was such an outlier from my

2427
02:21:52.360 --> 02:21:56.680
normal experience. That's genuinely impressive.
You know, I can step outside of

2428
02:21:56.680 --> 02:22:00.280
that thing. All right. Here's
the new thing that I'm kind of bummed

2429
02:22:00.319 --> 02:22:03.799
out about myself. I went to
Taco Bell this weekend and I ordered a

2430
02:22:03.920 --> 02:22:07.159
cheese Gordia crunch, something I've ordered
a billion times before, and I love

2431
02:22:07.239 --> 02:22:09.760
this thing. And I always ask
them because I forget the ingredients. I

2432
02:22:09.799 --> 02:22:11.600
say what comes on this? And
they say something about some crazy sauce.

2433
02:22:11.760 --> 02:22:13.959
I say that sounds weird. I
don't want that. I thought I had

2434
02:22:15.000 --> 02:22:16.920
sour cream in it or something.
They take the sour cream off. I've

2435
02:22:16.959 --> 02:22:20.600
eaten like hundreds of them this way. I think I found out that it

2436
02:22:20.680 --> 02:22:24.319
might be the same sauce that's on
the chicken case Idia, which is my

2437
02:22:24.399 --> 02:22:28.120
favorite like menu item ever. So
if I've been turning down that delicious sauce

2438
02:22:28.520 --> 02:22:33.399
on the hundreds of cheese Gordia crunches
I've eaten, I'm gonna be really sad

2439
02:22:33.399 --> 02:22:35.319
if I find that out. Yeah, I think that's that's a likelihood.

2440
02:22:35.559 --> 02:22:39.200
The Taco Bell probably the case I
could have had it all. It's like

2441
02:22:39.239 --> 02:22:41.000
a nice, spicy cheese sauce could
have been a contender. Well, now

2442
02:22:41.040 --> 02:22:43.639
I'm just gonna eat a billion cheese
Cordia crunches with that sauce. Now what

2443
02:22:43.680 --> 02:22:46.959
if that sauce mayonnaise based. Uh, I'm actually afraid of that, and

2444
02:22:46.959 --> 02:22:50.799
that's why I have specifically because it's
got a weird taste that I've never tasted

2445
02:22:50.799 --> 02:22:54.559
before. On the chicken case,
Idia and mayonnaise can lurk where you least

2446
02:22:54.760 --> 02:22:58.319
expect. I am worried that there
is either sour cream or mayonnaise lurking in

2447
02:22:58.360 --> 02:23:01.799
those case did is which I eat
all the time, And I don't want

2448
02:23:01.799 --> 02:23:03.360
to know, And I know people
are gonna write in and tweet to me,

2449
02:23:03.399 --> 02:23:05.399
so I'm probably gonna find out and
then I'll never get to eat a

2450
02:23:05.440 --> 02:23:09.760
case of the Aggain and I'm gonna
be sad. Will though I think sour

2451
02:23:09.840 --> 02:23:13.000
cream is gross because I've tried it
and I think it's disgusting. I assume

2452
02:23:13.040 --> 02:23:16.200
it's disgusting. You're right, Yeah, you're right. A little bit of

2453
02:23:16.200 --> 02:23:22.040
sour kaream can go a long way. You would not eat something because of

2454
02:23:22.079 --> 02:23:26.920
what's in it, not because it
like, regardless of if it tasted good

2455
02:23:28.000 --> 02:23:30.600
or not. Yeah. I think
I might have told you this when my

2456
02:23:30.600 --> 02:23:33.280
mom made all that macaroni and cheese
and it was fucking awesome. And she

2457
02:23:33.319 --> 02:23:35.159
made me like this huge freezer batch
macaroni and cheese, like he's got values

2458
02:23:35.200 --> 02:23:39.159
to uphold here, Yeah, And
so I had like twelve There's a principle

2459
02:23:39.239 --> 02:23:43.600
to this. This isn't it's called
taste. Does it taste good? This

2460
02:23:43.719 --> 02:23:48.719
isn't about This isn't about good.
My mom is about dumb trying to live

2461
02:23:48.760 --> 02:23:50.920
a good and noble life here and
that does not include eating mayonnaise or something

2462
02:23:52.159 --> 02:23:56.360
has to have a code. She
made me like twelve bags to put in

2463
02:23:56.360 --> 02:23:58.959
the freezer of this macaroni and cheese
macaron and cheese, like my favorite thing

2464
02:23:58.000 --> 02:24:01.040
ever. I ate like two.
We were three of them, and they

2465
02:24:01.040 --> 02:24:03.079
were fucking awesome. And I remember
calling my mom and being like, Mom,

2466
02:24:03.079 --> 02:24:05.479
this is the best macaroni ever,
Thank you so much. And then

2467
02:24:05.520 --> 02:24:09.399
she said, oh, well,
guess what I put in him. That's

2468
02:24:09.559 --> 02:24:11.360
what she goes. I put Sarah
cram in those, and so I got

2469
02:24:11.440 --> 02:24:15.200
rid of the rest of the bags. I would not touch it after that.

2470
02:24:15.399 --> 02:24:18.120
Moving After having that knowledge, I
could not continue to eat it.

2471
02:24:18.760 --> 02:24:20.120
Next em even though it is the
best macaroni cheese I've ever eaten. Next

2472
02:24:20.159 --> 02:24:26.239
email, I have no words,
please Brad. Next email comes in from

2473
02:24:26.319 --> 02:24:31.879
Drew Los Angeles. True, very
different. Yes he wears a hat.

2474
02:24:33.079 --> 02:24:37.239
Yep, oh that's the difference.
Hey, guys, just wanted to say

2475
02:24:37.239 --> 02:24:41.159
thanks for telling everyone that LA sucks
as a Los Angelino. We've been pushing

2476
02:24:41.159 --> 02:24:45.239
that for years now and it's working. People are moving away. If you

2477
02:24:45.280 --> 02:24:48.280
read this, please tell people that
Hollywood is wretched and depressing. The East

2478
02:24:48.280 --> 02:24:52.239
Side is just endless conversations about coconut
oil and Santa Monica is a boring mall

2479
02:24:52.360 --> 02:24:56.680
for rich people. Living here is
like being in a lawnmower because of the

2480
02:24:56.680 --> 02:25:01.719
helicopters all the time everywhere. What's
the with us traffic squares, the squares

2481
02:25:01.760 --> 02:25:03.000
with my experience of LA. Yeah, no, I was just I was

2482
02:25:03.000 --> 02:25:05.520
just in Santa Monica and it looked
like a boring mall for rich people.

2483
02:25:05.559 --> 02:25:09.719
Yeah, Los Angeles is a hell
on Earth? Wait is he telling he

2484
02:25:09.040 --> 02:25:13.840
is he telling us to evangelize that
viewpoint so that people move out. Yes,

2485
02:25:13.959 --> 02:25:18.799
and he's trying to further, He's
trying to expedite them and thus more

2486
02:25:18.959 --> 02:25:22.479
La for him. I think that's
the case because if you think about it,

2487
02:25:22.520 --> 02:25:24.959
if there were fewer people on the
road in La, La would not

2488
02:25:24.959 --> 02:25:28.959
be half as bad. So he
likes La, yes, okay. Or

2489
02:25:28.000 --> 02:25:31.719
he has to work there or something. You know, some people are stuck

2490
02:25:31.760 --> 02:25:37.319
in places. Yes, he is
in La whether by choice or not.

2491
02:25:37.520 --> 02:25:39.920
Okay, But it sounds like he
would prefer it if fewer people were.

2492
02:25:41.680 --> 02:25:43.840
I can't wait to go there.
Yeah, it's a big fun It's gonna

2493
02:25:43.840 --> 02:25:48.479
be great. It's gonna be great. Del tacos faro. I could see

2494
02:25:48.879 --> 02:25:54.239
that that grinder, there's that weird
stand with the hot dogs. Yes,

2495
02:25:54.520 --> 02:25:58.280
so that's that's sushi place I mentioned
last week, sushi knows all what it

2496
02:25:58.319 --> 02:26:01.520
closed down like. I had heard
that his son had opened up a restaurant

2497
02:26:01.520 --> 02:26:05.280
called Sugarfish, like a couple of
three years ago. Yeah. Check today.

2498
02:26:05.280 --> 02:26:09.239
They now have nine locations down there, So sushi for everybody. I'm

2499
02:26:09.239 --> 02:26:13.360
excited. It's a good name a
man, sugarfish, Sugarfish. It's kind

2500
02:26:13.360 --> 02:26:18.840
of just makes you want to eat
fish. Sounds tasting. Brock from Melbourne,

2501
02:26:18.120 --> 02:26:24.520
also in Australia, says a high
bomb cast every second or third episode

2502
02:26:24.719 --> 02:26:28.040
we hear comments along the lines of, I don't even know what a particular

2503
02:26:28.079 --> 02:26:31.159
game or expo looks like these days, quote unquote. I understand why you

2504
02:26:31.159 --> 02:26:35.280
say these things, but I'm curious. What will gaming conventions look like in

2505
02:26:35.319 --> 02:26:39.479
twenty twenty five. Can we say
that the PlayStation five and Xbox X will

2506
02:26:39.520 --> 02:26:43.840
be the current generation of consoles,
Will VR slash R be a common standard?

2507
02:26:45.159 --> 02:26:48.719
Will Half Life three be confirmed yet? Can conventions survive for another ten

2508
02:26:48.760 --> 02:26:54.600
plus years? Yeah? Absolutely,
But like in terms of like what who

2509
02:26:54.639 --> 02:26:58.159
they're trying to appeal to and why
they exist, I think that's overdue for

2510
02:26:58.200 --> 02:27:03.079
a shake up. I don't know, like you really think the value of

2511
02:27:03.079 --> 02:27:05.479
getting everybody together in one place is
even going to persist that long, Like

2512
02:27:05.520 --> 02:27:09.159
I feel like it's all it's becoming
so diffuse already through because social media.

2513
02:27:09.280 --> 02:27:13.719
Games are still an interactive medium and
so you want to get your hands on

2514
02:27:13.799 --> 02:27:18.559
them before they're out. In terms
of getting people together for like business reasons

2515
02:27:18.600 --> 02:27:20.159
for a trade show, no,
I think that that, you know,

2516
02:27:20.239 --> 02:27:24.479
that is more and more distributed every
day, and and E three is not,

2517
02:27:26.520 --> 02:27:28.440
you know, in just terms of
like raw percentages of games coming out

2518
02:27:28.559 --> 02:27:31.360
with the sheer number of them coming
out, Like you know, E three

2519
02:27:31.440 --> 02:27:35.440
is not the place for most of
them, and like retail buyers don't need

2520
02:27:35.479 --> 02:27:37.639
E three to see the games they
might purchase, right, but it orders

2521
02:27:37.680 --> 02:27:41.920
more and more and more publishers are, you know, visiting those retailers directly,

2522
02:27:43.120 --> 02:27:46.120
so you know they're having their own
trade shags things. Yeah, so

2523
02:27:46.200 --> 02:27:50.239
you know, those those relationships have
changed, and you know, plenty of

2524
02:27:50.239 --> 02:27:54.159
games that are digital only have no
reason to go there in terms of like

2525
02:27:56.040 --> 02:28:00.360
finding retail support and stuff like that. So like that's an entirely different class

2526
02:28:00.399 --> 02:28:03.920
of game that doesn't necessarily get the
full benefit of something like E three.

2527
02:28:03.959 --> 02:28:05.559
If they did decide to go there
and show there, then you small developers

2528
02:28:05.639 --> 02:28:09.000
straight up can't forty three. It's
a super fucking expensive thing to exhibit at.

2529
02:28:09.079 --> 02:28:11.559
I mean, it's you know,
it's one of the nice things I

2530
02:28:11.559 --> 02:28:16.000
guess that's happened as a result of
Sony forgetting how to make first party games

2531
02:28:16.120 --> 02:28:18.440
is they have a lot of room
in their booth to bring in a lot

2532
02:28:18.440 --> 02:28:22.840
of kiosks for a lot of small
games. They have had tons of indie

2533
02:28:22.840 --> 02:28:26.680
games last year. Yeah, so
you know, like that stuff is getting

2534
02:28:26.680 --> 02:28:28.600
displayed on that level when they're making
the deals to come out on consoles.

2535
02:28:28.959 --> 02:28:33.239
Some of those games are getting invited
in and there are events kind of around

2536
02:28:33.239 --> 02:28:39.200
the show that are indie focused and
stuff like that as well. But yeah,

2537
02:28:39.479 --> 02:28:41.440
I don't know, you know,
kind of its kind of like as

2538
02:28:41.479 --> 02:28:43.559
as goes the industry, so goes
E three, right, Like I feel

2539
02:28:43.600 --> 02:28:48.840
like I feel like by twenty twenty
five, they're going to be crazier trends

2540
02:28:48.879 --> 02:28:52.479
and play than what's happening. I
mean, are the questions about like E

2541
02:28:52.600 --> 02:28:56.120
three specifically or about all trade shows, all all conventions? Yeah, because

2542
02:28:56.159 --> 02:29:00.840
I think there you'll see more stuff
like packs, yeah, springing up in

2543
02:29:00.879 --> 02:29:05.360
more locations that aren't being served by
packs. Sure not about those? Are

2544
02:29:05.399 --> 02:29:07.799
you know? Those are more kind
of consumer fan events and yeah not,

2545
02:29:07.280 --> 02:29:11.399
but they are are conventions. Yeah, yeah, that's true cons if you

2546
02:29:11.440 --> 02:29:13.559
will. I mean, the bigger
question for me is like, is there

2547
02:29:13.559 --> 02:29:16.200
a PlayStation five at all? Sure? Stuff like that? No? Absolutely,

2548
02:29:16.280 --> 02:29:20.280
that's that's Those are the questions that
need to be answered before you can

2549
02:29:20.319 --> 02:29:26.040
say what happens to you? Three? Largely should we make this the last

2550
02:29:26.079 --> 02:29:30.479
email? But yes, Half Live
two will be out by then. Three

2551
02:29:31.680 --> 02:29:33.559
Yeah, Half Life two has been
out, I said, I said for

2552
02:29:33.799 --> 02:29:37.079
ages. Yes, Half Live two
will be out by twenty five. Finally,

2553
02:29:39.840 --> 02:29:45.680
fucking finally, Uh, we can
get two more emails in your queen.

2554
02:29:45.719 --> 02:29:48.000
Now, let's make this last email. Let's play it safe. Uh.

2555
02:29:48.079 --> 02:29:52.239
Jason from Scotts Bluff, Nebraska.
Okay, right, then about a

2556
02:29:52.319 --> 02:29:56.479
good night's rest. It's been a
long time since we had a giant bomb

2557
02:29:56.479 --> 02:30:01.200
mattress update. And he right.
He included literally eight to ten exclamation marks

2558
02:30:01.239 --> 02:30:05.440
after this, so he's very excited
about the mattress update. We have no

2559
02:30:05.520 --> 02:30:09.719
idea what the mattress sich of Drew, Dan or Jason is whatsoever? And

2560
02:30:09.760 --> 02:30:13.959
this must be corrected. Brad,
do you still have a spring poking out

2561
02:30:13.959 --> 02:30:16.000
of yours? Jeff, you said
you got rid of your performance sheets,

2562
02:30:16.000 --> 02:30:18.799
But how did you throw them out? As someone picked through your garbage and

2563
02:30:18.879 --> 02:30:22.319
is now in possession of all the
of all the sweat they wiked away,

2564
02:30:22.360 --> 02:30:26.680
not to mention all the body hairt
ripped out. We demand answers. Yeah,

2565
02:30:26.760 --> 02:30:31.159
we threw away the performance just straight
in the trash. I kept the

2566
02:30:31.159 --> 02:30:33.879
pillowcases because they stay cool, Okay, in a way that I appreciate.

2567
02:30:35.000 --> 02:30:37.920
Yeah, uh, from my part, I think over two years ago now

2568
02:30:37.959 --> 02:30:41.360
we finally went out and like made
an all day excursion out of bed shopping,

2569
02:30:43.040 --> 02:30:46.319
got a pretty fucking nice set.
That is my favorite object in the

2570
02:30:46.319 --> 02:30:50.799
world. Now nice we put we
put a mattress pad like a topper on

2571
02:30:50.799 --> 02:30:54.120
our mattress. Which is it turns
out? I think I think that's the

2572
02:30:54.120 --> 02:30:58.680
type of bed I like, is
a firm mattress with a bit of foam

2573
02:30:58.760 --> 02:31:01.799
on that. It's the way to
go Japanese. Is that what that is?

2574
02:31:01.799 --> 02:31:07.319
Is it? Don't they sleep on
like boards with some foam. I

2575
02:31:07.319 --> 02:31:11.479
don't know. Maybe last time I
was theress. Yes, that's how I

2576
02:31:11.639 --> 02:31:13.879
rolled, some kind of good firm
back support, but with a little bit

2577
02:31:13.920 --> 02:31:16.760
of cushion on top of Yeah,
exactly what I'm looking for. Drew,

2578
02:31:16.799 --> 02:31:20.600
What is your bed situation? It's
a mattress, just a mattress. Yeah,

2579
02:31:20.639 --> 02:31:24.719
I'm the ground. No, it's
up off the ground box springs,

2580
02:31:26.639 --> 02:31:28.559
I guess, I don't know.
It it's soft. How many coils are

2581
02:31:28.559 --> 02:31:31.840
we talking? Well, you know
if you had a box spring or not.

2582
02:31:31.520 --> 02:31:37.120
It's like another mattress size object directly
under the mattress. But it's a

2583
02:31:37.159 --> 02:31:39.360
lot more rigid or do you just
have a mattress sitting on a frame?

2584
02:31:39.600 --> 02:31:43.399
Is the mattress just directly on a
frame? I think it. I think

2585
02:31:43.440 --> 02:31:46.040
it's just on the frame. Okay, we're talking like a high like a

2586
02:31:46.079 --> 02:31:48.600
waste high frame, or like a
load of the ground. I always thought

2587
02:31:48.600 --> 02:31:52.000
it would be cool to have one
of those frames where you're like six inches

2588
02:31:52.040 --> 02:31:56.280
off the ground. Yeah, like, what was it? Was it the

2589
02:31:56.360 --> 02:32:00.680
standard in New York? M m
is it? Even me Brad who went

2590
02:32:00.719 --> 02:32:03.879
there for crisis or something and they
had like the mattresses like six inches off

2591
02:32:03.879 --> 02:32:07.559
the grao. Oh really there?
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, weird low

2592
02:32:07.559 --> 02:32:11.120
mattresses that when you wake up and
you're still drunk, it's like a bad

2593
02:32:11.159 --> 02:32:16.440
fucking yeah, because you're you're way
closer to the ground you think you are

2594
02:32:16.520 --> 02:32:18.760
okay. You go to stand up
like you're in a regular ass bed and

2595
02:32:18.840 --> 02:32:20.399
go fuck and then almost fall over. It's like when you're going down the

2596
02:32:20.440 --> 02:32:24.079
stairs and you think there's another stair
and you step into the floor like an

2597
02:32:24.079 --> 02:32:28.159
idiot. Yeah it sucks. Yeah, Dan, I got a big ass,

2598
02:32:28.239 --> 02:32:30.840
king size bed. King Yeah,
it's great. I got all the

2599
02:32:30.879 --> 02:32:33.520
space in the world. It's incredible
to buy it new when you came out

2600
02:32:33.559 --> 02:32:37.120
here. No, I was in
Minnesota and I lived in an apartment complex,

2601
02:32:37.159 --> 02:32:39.200
and some dude got a job in
Hawaii, like two weeks after he

2602
02:32:39.239 --> 02:32:43.319
bought this brand new, awesome king
size bed. So I saw a post

2603
02:32:43.360 --> 02:32:46.200
in the laundering room saying, like, king size bed two weeks old,

2604
02:32:46.399 --> 02:32:48.520
two hundred bucks. Wow. Yeah, so I have a bad ass bed

2605
02:32:48.559 --> 02:32:54.120
for two hundred butts that would be
hard to turn down. Yeah, I

2606
02:32:54.120 --> 02:32:56.079
don't. I'm on a California king
Man, you know what. I also

2607
02:32:56.079 --> 02:33:01.120
think I'm rocking a queen buck wheat
pillow. What okay? Alright, gurm

2608
02:33:01.159 --> 02:33:05.479
as hell gluten free? I don't
know even can you get gluten anllergies from

2609
02:33:05.479 --> 02:33:11.239
a pillow? Probably if there was
wheat in him? Huh okay, maybe

2610
02:33:11.479 --> 02:33:13.479
I don't know buckweeds, it's it's
super duper firm. Yeah, I don't

2611
02:33:13.479 --> 02:33:18.159
like super soft. I've got I've
got a buckwheat airline like an airplane pillow,

2612
02:33:18.200 --> 02:33:20.440
and I was talking about Yeah they're
great. Uh yeah, I went

2613
02:33:20.520 --> 02:33:26.319
queens who and I think would kind
of regret it occasionally, but it's time.

2614
02:33:26.319 --> 02:33:31.799
It seemed like so much space king
best. I don't know about the

2615
02:33:31.799 --> 02:33:33.479
cal King though, cal King you
can sleep three comfortably if you had to

2616
02:33:33.600 --> 02:33:37.639
wait, it's cal King, the
bigger one. Yeah. Yeah, actually

2617
02:33:37.799 --> 02:33:39.840
that is what I got because I
just had to buy some fitted sheets and

2618
02:33:39.000 --> 02:33:43.399
my mom said to order California King. I didn't know what the difference was,

2619
02:33:43.479 --> 02:33:46.440
so I did do have wider,
shorter, but shorter. I can't

2620
02:33:46.479 --> 02:33:50.680
get around the Yeah, I can't
get around that. It's weird, Like

2621
02:33:50.879 --> 02:33:52.959
I feel like I'd barely have enough
feet room as it is. That's in

2622
02:33:54.000 --> 02:33:56.879
California. Watch it in short,
I don't want your feet hanging off the

2623
02:33:56.920 --> 02:34:01.520
edge of your bed. That's no
fun. Yeah. Yeah, mine used

2624
02:34:01.520 --> 02:34:05.479
to. And I resituated my pillows
in such a way that it is no

2625
02:34:05.559 --> 02:34:09.520
longer a problem. Good enough.
Yeah, all right, John Bond Mattress

2626
02:34:09.600 --> 02:34:15.440
update for twenty fifteen. Catch it. I think we'll get Jason chime him

2627
02:34:16.440 --> 02:34:20.280
sometimes in your future a mattress.
Yep, I'm gonna have a baby.

2628
02:34:20.319 --> 02:34:24.360
He's gotta get a tiny mattress.
That's true. I'll take all those cribs.

2629
02:34:24.600 --> 02:34:26.280
Yeah, I don't think. Well, I think there's a mattress in

2630
02:34:26.319 --> 02:34:28.559
the crib. Okay, you could
have a you could have a crib without

2631
02:34:28.559 --> 02:34:31.159
a mattress to be a fucked up
cribs. Criptech is advancing. Yeah,

2632
02:34:31.200 --> 02:34:35.280
okay, Criptech they make the mattress. Maybe your baby needs like an extreme

2633
02:34:35.360 --> 02:34:39.159
lumbar support or something though, Yeah, you never know, sleep on bear

2634
02:34:39.200 --> 02:34:41.600
wood. I'm gonna look into the
memory foam thing though, the thin layer

2635
02:34:41.639 --> 02:34:43.280
of foam. Yeah, it's nice. Do you got a brandy like?

2636
02:34:43.680 --> 02:34:46.520
Uh? No, I just put
the Amazon got something? Does it stay

2637
02:34:46.760 --> 02:34:48.799
or does it slide around? You
put onto the fitted sheet? Yeah?

2638
02:34:48.879 --> 02:34:52.879
Yeah, it's tight. Just send
me a link. I'll see if I

2639
02:34:52.879 --> 02:34:54.879
can find you. Go through order
history and Amazon. Yeah, yeah it

2640
02:34:54.879 --> 02:34:58.159
sounds good. Beds, bed chat, bed talk all right, that's gonna

2641
02:34:58.200 --> 02:35:01.079
do it for emails podcast at giant
bomb dot com. I like you went

2642
02:35:01.120 --> 02:35:05.799
all the way down that road and
didn't come to pillow talk, man,

2643
02:35:05.159 --> 02:35:09.440
Yeah, I got so much in
me yep. End of the podcast show.

2644
02:35:09.479 --> 02:35:13.920
It happens. Ye, you either
go all the way or not at

2645
02:35:13.959 --> 02:35:18.879
all? All right? Uh?
This is it is our last regular BombCast

2646
02:35:18.920 --> 02:35:22.920
before we go to LA. Yeah. Well, well we're recording one more

2647
02:35:22.000 --> 02:35:26.719
this week that is kind of just
the last bits of stuff from Judges Week

2648
02:35:26.799 --> 02:35:30.079
one. It'll go up on Tuesday, and the annual Sealed Envelope podcast.

2649
02:35:30.200 --> 02:35:33.520
Yeah, that'll go up as soon
as the show floor opens on Tuesday next

2650
02:35:33.559 --> 02:35:37.559
and next Tuesday at noon, yeah, I think so noon Pacific. Yeah,

2651
02:35:39.239 --> 02:35:41.920
well, that'll have what's left of
our predictions. We've already booked all

2652
02:35:41.920 --> 02:35:45.239
the appointments, so I think we
have some good indications about some of the

2653
02:35:45.280 --> 02:35:48.200
stuff we're going to see. Yes, and we could be pretty candid about

2654
02:35:48.200 --> 02:35:50.440
it, since by the time people
hear it, all the announcements will have

2655
02:35:50.479 --> 02:35:54.360
been made, but we won't have
seen it, so you can see how

2656
02:35:54.360 --> 02:35:58.280
wrong we are some of these appointments
we booked, but as a week prior,

2657
02:35:58.399 --> 02:36:01.760
this is what we think. Yeah, that'll be fun. Yeah,

2658
02:36:01.799 --> 02:36:05.159
so stay tuned for that. Probably
of fairly light week around the site as

2659
02:36:05.159 --> 02:36:07.799
we pack everything up, put it
on trucks. Yeah, some quick looks

2660
02:36:07.840 --> 02:36:11.120
heading hitting the site from US and
from the East coast. But yeah,

2661
02:36:11.719 --> 02:36:16.959
we're loading up. Truck comes on
Thursday. Yeah, all right, we're

2662
02:36:16.959 --> 02:36:20.399
gonna try. I don't want to
commit to anything, we're gonna try.

2663
02:36:20.520 --> 02:36:24.440
I will commit to trying to do
a live stream all right, if yeah,

2664
02:36:24.479 --> 02:36:26.159
we can't, if we can't run
it, out of our gear.

2665
02:36:26.239 --> 02:36:30.120
Then one of us will grab our
phone and we'll periscope or you can always

2666
02:36:30.159 --> 02:36:33.079
just you can always just play room
it. Right, Yes, we'll set

2667
02:36:33.159 --> 02:36:35.799
up PS four and we'll be real
big on you stream. Set up two

2668
02:36:35.840 --> 02:36:39.000
PS four's one will be play a
room one will be the game we're playing.

2669
02:36:39.079 --> 02:36:41.479
Okay, I think we simultaneously all
periscope it. You know what,

2670
02:36:41.479 --> 02:36:46.399
we could probably embed both of those
in our chat. That is the thing.

2671
02:36:46.479 --> 02:36:48.360
We could do that, all right, Right, well, we've got

2672
02:36:48.399 --> 02:36:50.520
options. Obviously, we'll see what
we can do basically on what equipment is

2673
02:36:50.600 --> 02:36:54.520
left. Yes, clearly ideas are
percolating. But yes, so yeah,

2674
02:36:54.559 --> 02:36:58.040
stay tuned for all that stuff.
And uh yeah, other than that,

2675
02:36:58.079 --> 02:37:01.799
we'll see you in Los Angeles.
So well, actually we will. We

2676
02:37:01.840 --> 02:37:05.760
should plug the fact that we're gonna
have live streams of all the press conferences

2677
02:37:05.760 --> 02:37:09.600
talk over them, yes, because
that will those will happen before our next

2678
02:37:09.600 --> 02:37:13.120
PODA and those and those will go
up. Those will not say, well

2679
02:37:13.280 --> 02:37:16.559
we're doing nighttime shows during the three
those will go up into this podcast feed.

2680
02:37:16.079 --> 02:37:20.520
Okay, so you'll the audio versions
of those, Yeah, and I

2681
02:37:20.600 --> 02:37:24.120
have the press conference out of press
conferences we'll be talking over the press conferences.

2682
02:37:24.159 --> 02:37:24.840
Those will go up in video after
the fact. But yes, we're

2683
02:37:24.879 --> 02:37:31.319
gonna we're gonna talk over all those
E three press conferences asda Ubi Softya,

2684
02:37:31.120 --> 02:37:37.040
Microsoft, Sony, Sega, Sega, an EC. Wow. Finally,

2685
02:37:37.120 --> 02:37:43.079
all these graphics, these hardware manufacturer
press conferences, turbographics one hundred and twenty

2686
02:37:43.120 --> 02:37:46.079
eight coming out. You're very excited. Yep, it'll be fun. All

2687
02:37:46.159 --> 02:37:48.440
right, We'll see everybody in Los
Angeles. Stay tuned next week, same

2688
02:37:48.479 --> 02:38:20.520
time for another edition of the Giant
Bomb Cast. Bye.