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It's time for this week's Interview Classic where 18 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:33.560 Wade Keller Interview is one of pro Wrestling's newsmakers ten years ago. This week's 19 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:38.159 Stone Cold Steve Austin joined me for over an hour conversation about WrestleMania thirty, 20 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:42.879 including backstage perspective on the Ultimate Warrior and Mister t, his thoughts on Ciampunk's 21 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:48.480 departure, his thoughts on Daniel Bryan's hot run. Also does he endorse Roman 22 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:53.400 Rains and Cesarro and more. This originally aired on April tenth, twenty fourteen, 23 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:57.920 and it is today's wad Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast Interview Classic for Monday, 24 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:07.719 April eighth, twenty twenty four Welcome to thep W Torch Live Cast. I 25 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:12.599 am Wade Keller, editor and publisher of the Pro Wrestling Torch weekly newsletter since 26 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:17.960 nineteen eighty seven and also pwtorch dot Com since nineteen ninety nine. Also free 27 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:23.800 apps PW Torch and MMA Torch. Those are free in the app store on 28 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:25.360 your phone, iPhone or Android. Just to a search of PW Torch or 29 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:30.479 MMA Torch to download our free apps. And also host of the daily PW 30 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:34.240 Torch live cast. We have different hosts and co hosts paired up every day. 31 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:38.560 I am on Tuesdays with Jason Powell from the website Pro Wrestling dot Net, 32 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:43.719 and I also host on mostly Fridays, but sometimes Thursdays with our interview 33 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:47.240 format, and this week, Interview Friday shifts to Interview Thursday because we have 34 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:52.080 a guest worth shifting the schedule for. And it is the second appearance on 35 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:58.479 the program for Stone Cold Steve Austin, top WWE wrestler of all times. 36 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:01.080 Steve, Welcome to the show, Amen, good to be here. Great 37 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:06.080 to have you back on. We've got to start by talking about the Ultimate 38 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:08.560 Warrior, though I haven't done a live cast since I found out about his 39 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:14.639 death on Tuesday night. I know you mentioned on your show that we had 40 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:20.240 a chance to talk about Ultimate Warrior the night that had happened, and just 41 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:22.439 a couple of days later, you know, it's it's starting to sink in. 42 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.879 Uh fully, you know just what a what a strange uh and odd 43 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:31.120 weekend. It was your your thoughts on the timing, uh, specifically about 44 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:36.680 Warrior being able to be back in the w w A atmosphere, make amends 45 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.039 with some people, or at least have some small talk and get some of 46 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:43.560 that tension worked out that existed with some people he had known a long time, 47 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:47.159 and then just to find out the next day after his appearance on Raw 48 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:51.759 that he was gone. It's just it's so eerie and uh and and kind 49 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:53.719 of hard to fully grasp. Man, I tell you what, Yeah, 50 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:57.120 I really didn't know what to think. And you and I talk the other 51 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:00.439 night, and I got the news, I got a text from Chris Jericho 52 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:05.319 and I saw that uh voicemail you left me listen to the voicemail. Of 53 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:09.039 course, you and me started talking, and it's like, man, I 54 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:11.199 don't know. It was real strange. You know. I was sitting on 55 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:14.000 the front row right there, pretty close to Kog and he was up there 56 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:16.000 and he carried that tale up there and he was sweating a lot. Yeah, 57 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:18.839 And UH, I kind of watched the uh the promo back he did 58 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:23.360 on Money not wrong because I didn't see it live, and uh, I 59 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:28.040 don't know. It just uh, it was almost like he was seemingly for 60 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.879 predicting his own death. So I thought that it's kind of what he was 61 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:35.560 alluding to. But man, I just wonder what happened. Everybody has all 62 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:43.319 this speculation, but I'm very interested in seeing what the autopsy says happened to 63 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:46.120 the Warrior. And so I couldn't believe it. Man, just to come 64 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:48.439 back to the company, and you know, there was a lot of heat. 65 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:53.000 There ain't no denying that there's a lot of heat between WARG and WWE. 66 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:56.959 They come back together, they got big plans and you know, gonna 67 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:00.279 do the Legends thing. It's gonna be a little bit of a folks for 68 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:01.959 the company. And then you know, the night after or the day after 69 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:04.639 money Night Row, He's gone. And I'll just tell you what. It 70 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:09.920 really made me sad because I wasn't really good friends with the Warrior. I 71 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:13.519 just remember back in when I first came to the company around Wrestleman in twelve 72 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:15.319 a little bit before then, I'd only been around him a couple of times, 73 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:17.959 but he was always very cool to me. Of course, I used 74 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:20.160 to go to the sports tournament and watch him as a Dingo warrior. I 75 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:24.839 was a big fan, and you know, so I just heard a lot 76 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:27.920 of stories about it. But he was always real cool to me. And 77 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:30.560 it was just sad to see him go because when he went out there, 78 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:31.759 he looked at his wife and he says, you know, when you and 79 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:34.199 I got together, I got in a little bit of trouble, had some 80 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:38.160 hard times, and you stuck with me, and you looked beautiful tonight and 81 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:40.720 I love you, and he meant that. And then he addressed both of 82 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:44.319 his beautiful daughters and told them the best thing he would ever do with with, 83 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:46.720 you know, the proudest thing he would ever do with be their father. 84 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:47.720 And then, you know, man, all of a sudden, he 85 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:51.279 was gone two days later. We really kind of broke my heart. It 86 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:55.199 did too, And you know, I have mixed feelings about I mix thing 87 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:59.279 thought the word. I think it's really it's still sad he's gone. And 88 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:03.279 I mean our synth these and our condolences to his family, especially his daughters 89 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:06.879 and heck, especially his mom. No parents should have to go to their 90 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.160 son or daughter's funeral, and his wife, as you mentioned, I thought 91 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:15.040 it was really touching and I think it humanized warrior. He has a deserved 92 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:18.560 controversial reputation. He said some vile and outlandish things on a wide variety of 93 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:25.079 subjects politically, very very anti gay, and you know, just things that 94 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:30.360 I think are reason that he has seen by some people as more than controversial. 95 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:34.199 But that said, and also his reputation among his peers, and you 96 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:38.519 know it was among the worst. Teddy Bassi, who I respect tremendously, 97 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.439 was on this show a year ago and just talked about how difficult it would 98 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.120 be to accept him as a Hall of Famer in WWE, and that was 99 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.759 before the announcement was made. So all of that said, I'm really glad 100 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:53.160 we got to see that maybe at age fifty four there was another side that 101 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:57.079 either he had grown into or always had, you know, in terms of 102 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:00.560 being a family man, and the way his daughters looked at Steve. I've 103 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.519 seen a lot of politicians march their young kids, preteen kids onto a stage 104 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:08.680 and it's uncomfortable. Those two daughters looked at him like he was the center 105 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.480 of their universe. And I mean I got choked up rewatching that on Tuesday 106 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.000 night when I was putting my newsletter together. You're right, the love that 107 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.519 his wife had when she blew like eight kisses in a one and a half 108 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:23.000 second spand a warrior as he said how much he loved her. That was 109 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:26.959 real, and I so it hurts more because it humanized him, and he 110 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:29.319 kind of came into our lives again for a few days with the Hall of 111 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:32.639 Fame mania and raw. But I feel good that in this tragedy he got 112 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:36.160 a chance to say how he felt about for the most important people in his 113 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:40.439 life, and not a lot of people who die prematurely get that chance. 114 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:45.160 Yeah. I mean, his girls were so cute up there, and it 115 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:47.680 was just I walked, you know, they followed the warrior the whole time 116 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:49.920 he was back. He had cameras, guys were coming up to him, 117 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:55.199 and we're doing interviews with him. I think I talked to a warrior about 118 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:57.360 year, year and a half, go on the phone about two times, 119 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:01.879 just call him by some nutritious stuff and just shooting breeze. Yeah, and 120 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:03.920 and so then, you know, I never got a chance to go up 121 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:05.360 and shake his hands, say hey, congratulations in the Hall of Fame, 122 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:09.000 or just say hi. But his wife stopped me there in the hallway there 123 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.959 with his two daughters that introduced herself to me, you know, shook both 124 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.399 his daughter's hands and said how cute they looked, and just had about a 125 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:18.079 you know, one minute conversation with him that I wrote off from the sunset 126 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.800 and then my meal. But hell, I was, you know, upset 127 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.000 with myself that I didn't go up to a warrior, I call him gym 128 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.360 and just shake his hands, say hey man, what's up, and all 129 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:31.519 of a sudden, now he's gone. That'll ever happen. But to your 130 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:35.120 point, hey man, you know, I think the love for his mother, 131 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:39.159 his wife and his two daughters was damn sure real. And you know, 132 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:41.360 he singled ted out there when he called him out about the clothes lines 133 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:45.799 down in mid South. It was a little uncomfortable because you put ted on 134 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.840 the spot and you know, there was still a little bit of heat going 135 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:52.600 there because he really single ted out. But it was what it was. 136 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.519 I don't want to, uh, you know, go any front of down 137 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.919 that path, but you know, he just had a very interesting relationship with 138 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:03.080 a lot of the guys. I don't concerner myself having a real friendship or 139 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:05.399 kinship with him, but he was always cool to me and I'm really, 140 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:09.000 really sad to see him gone. You had mentioned a minute ago that you 141 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:13.360 are curious about the autopsy report coming back and some preliminary reports, and I 142 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:16.639 think his wife reporting CMC or I witnesses saying he clutched his chest, and 143 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:20.480 reports of being a massive heart attack. If it turns out to be a 144 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.639 massive heart attack in that autopsy report, which seems to be more than just 145 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.159 speculation at this point, I'll put it that way, how are wrestlers going 146 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:33.120 to react to that? In an industry where the vast majority of guys at 147 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:35.679 one point or another, not to the degree in the vast majority case is 148 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:41.000 a ultimate Warrior have used steroids? In the idea that steroids there's a lot 149 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:46.440 of correlation between years of heavy steroid use and heart conditions, especially with people 150 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.440 with pre existing conditions. Does that scare you as a wrestler. Do you 151 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:54.399 think that's going to scare other wrestlers who have used steroids? How much could 152 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:56.399 Warrior change the way people look at that side of this business that doesn't get 153 00:09:56.399 --> 00:10:01.399 talked about a lot. Man, I want to the autopsy results. I 154 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:03.080 mean, it could have been something with this hardy, you know, through 155 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.919 any sport, whether it's football, body building, power lift, and you 156 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:11.559 know the track record. I mean, there's a high mortality rate among pro 157 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:16.639 wrestlers and it's a combination of things, so, you know, along with 158 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.000 a lot of hard work guys. So I don't want to single out steroids. 159 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.159 Uh, could they or were they? Possibly a big part of this, 160 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.240 absolutely, but let's wait to see what the autopsy says. And as 161 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:33.240 far as maybe some lifestyle changes that some guys might need to make, Yeah, 162 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.600 it could open up a few eyes, no doubt about that. I 163 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.679 don't think anybody's gonna deny you know that the Warrior you steroids, but let's 164 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:43.440 see really what the autopsy says before you know, we really go there. 165 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:50.759 Yeah, yep. 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All right, we've got a lot of people that are calling into 175 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:33.720 the show, and we're going to get to some calls. We're not going 176 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:35.320 to get to all calls, so he's going to be with us for about 177 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:37.120 an hour, a little bit of a VIP after show after that for VIP 178 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.600 members, and we've got some really good email questions on such a wide array 179 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:45.240 of subjects. I do, as Steve does on his show, want to 180 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.039 take one moment to bring up our sponsor here on the PW torch livecap. 181 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.080 Let's go to an email question first, and this is a topical question. 182 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.759 Steve from Tom from Minneapolis. He says, Wade and Steve, I've been 183 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:58.519 a VIP member since your half off sale last year. I'm mostly an audio 184 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.240 subscriber. It's worth it for that alone. Thanks for all your hard work. 185 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:05.440 My question is about the choice to work. Daniel Brian's arm and do 186 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:09.159 an injury angle with it when you know you want him to celebrate the yes 187 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:11.240 chance at the end of the night the next night and that in that match, 188 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:15.360 I guess I think Brian should have sold his arm during the celebration and 189 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:16.759 on raw the next night. Steve, do you think Brian should have or 190 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.799 should they have worked an injury angle on another body part? Thanks if you 191 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:24.759 use my question what about that? See, it's philosophically an interesting question about 192 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.120 how long do you sell an injury that you're making a big deal out of, 193 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:30.559 you know, one week or one day, and then you know, 194 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:33.279 follow it up on the next day or the next week. Man, I 195 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:37.240 didn't pay attention to how bad that arm was hurt. But you know, 196 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.200 you want to sell that injury, but you know you're gonna have some recovery 197 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.320 powers. That being said, I mean, you don't want to just start 198 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:48.480 webbing that thing around, you know, like you're waving a green flag at 199 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:52.279 Lanscar. But you know, maybe you know it's great win singing a little 200 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:56.440 bit as you raise that arm up, but you know then finally you know, 201 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:58.840 it kind of unhinges and it is when it is, so you know, 202 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:03.399 you got to protect the business or at least respect the business a little 203 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.080 bit in that regard. But that being said, there are some liberties taken 204 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:11.200 during a celebration, no doubt. Yeah. Yeah, if there's ever an 205 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:13.440 excuse not to, it's when your gimmick is to, you know, do 206 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.440 the arms movement when you're channing. Yes, when that's your whole gimmick, 207 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:20.240 and that's when that adrinllaline kind of kicks in. Yeah, bim dorphin, 208 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:24.159 so seemingly, you know, you're not crapping on what just happened or trying 209 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:28.399 to, you know, demean it. It's still there. But that's where 210 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.360 the emotions take over and you're able to go ahead and function. And hey, 211 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:33.440 really that's kind of when you let the people off the hook to a 212 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:37.399 degree. Okay, let's celebrate this and have a little bit of fun. 213 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:41.720 Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Michael Smith from Stormville, New York 214 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:43.320 says, huge fan of all you guys work at the Torch and a huge 215 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.639 fan of Steve Austin as well. I've heard that Steve might have Undertaker on 216 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:50.519 his podcast in the coming weeks. Is this ver true? If it is, 217 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:52.159 what on earth is he going to do to prepare for that interview, 218 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:54.279 and how much does he expect to get out of Taker. As far as 219 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.279 the decision with Lesner goes, well, you know, I went up to 220 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:03.039 Undertake first of all, just said hello, that's a tremendous amount of respect 221 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:05.799 for that guy, and been down the road with him for a lot of 222 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.200 miles, not traveling together, just you know, in the business, and 223 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:11.320 so I just I told him. I just walked up to him and said, 224 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:13.399 hey, man, this is probably not the best time to ask this, 225 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.320 but I do a podcast. I wouldn't I'd like to know if you 226 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:20.679 wouldn't mind being a guest. He looked at me and said sure. So 227 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:24.559 when that's gonna happen, I have no idea because right now I'm in Los 228 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:26.799 Angeles, and when I when I talk with Undertaker, I'm going to drive 229 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:30.759 down to Austin and have a face to face conversation with him, so we 230 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.759 can really do the interview some justice. And it'll take a lot of research. 231 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:37.799 And because as much as I know about Taker, you know, there's 232 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.039 you know, as you know, a way you got to do your research. 233 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:43.240 So I want to do my due diligence and when I'm able to get 234 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.039 down to my ranch in Texas. Then I'll make a trip up to Austin 235 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:50.200 if you'll welcome in his house, and that's when I'll do the interview. 236 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:52.320 But again, it's on his terms. I was happy enough that he said 237 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:56.600 yes, but it's gonna be. I can't give you a date because I 238 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:58.720 don't know when that's gonna happen. It might be. It might be two 239 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.360 weeks, it might be six weeks, mind me, ten weeks. All 240 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:03.840 I know is the man said he talk to me, and I'll leave it 241 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.639 like that. Excellent, that's going to be a big show. You still 242 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:11.080 having a blast doing your podcast, by the way, and being the interviewer 243 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:13.320 instead of the intervieweek, you know it is. It's fun way, But 244 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:16.879 you know, I was out there doing my I did a reality show called 245 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:20.960 Broke. It's called Challist for Country Music Television. It's gonna premiere on July 246 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:22.759 six for sm T. And when I was out there, man, we're 247 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:26.399 pretty much working, you know. I get up and the cracking non, 248 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:28.600 get my work out in, take Hershey for a hike, and then I've 249 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.919 got to do my work all day and do the show. So I didn't 250 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.519 get a chance to really talk to anybody for several weeks, and I'm thankful 251 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:41.399 enough that the wrestling fans are so damn tremendous and other questions to my email 252 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:43.799 address and I can just sit there and answer questions. But believe me, 253 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:50.080 I get bored talking to myself with myself for myself, and love the interaction 254 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.519 of talking to people. So I'm looking I'm having a blast with it. 255 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:58.399 To answer your question, I just I like doing interviews and yeah, being 256 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:02.039 on asking and just not real there's so much an interview way more like a 257 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:06.120 conversation. Yeah that's how I felt when I was on your show last November. 258 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:08.159 But you're good at it, you know, and I'm not surprised by 259 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:11.799 it, and you're taking it seriously. You take it seriously as you did 260 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:15.679 your wrestling career. Man. Yeah, if you're gonna do something, if 261 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:18.440 you want to do the best of your ability. That being said, you 262 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:21.000 know, that's just like going out to the square and circle. Man, 263 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:22.879 Sometimes you go hit a grand slam. Sometimes you're going to hit a double, 264 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.080 you know. Sometimes you might even strike out. So here's what it 265 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:29.960 is. But you're always swinging for the fence, any time you turn on 266 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.519 the microphone, just like you do with your show. Sticking with the Undertaker 267 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:37.240 theme, v IP member Jason from Florida says, I was listening to Steve's 268 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:41.120 podcast with Big Show yesterday. They were both in complete agreement about how much 269 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:45.720 they hated the idea of the streak potentially ending. Obviously this was recorded weeks 270 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.960 ago. They discussed how important the legacy of the Streak is and what an 271 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:52.440 important figure Mark Kellaway is on and off camera. Steve even so much as 272 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:56.080 said that he would not respect the guy who even considered the idea of being 273 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:57.360 the guy who ended it. So now that all a said and done, 274 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.159 what was The's first reaction when he watched Rock Can Take Aer on Sunday? 275 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:04.480 Has his opinion changed in any way since Sunday? And if Steve had a 276 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:07.559 book, what would he have done with Brock next? A lot of questions 277 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:08.799 are Steve. But yeah, it's interesting. I was in the same camp 278 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.400 as you. I was very against anybody winning the streak. I thought it 279 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:15.839 would backfire on them if they'd ended Taker Streak. And but I'm at peace 280 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:19.039 with what happened on Sunday. I think it's maybe about the only scenario I 281 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:22.680 can imagine where you know, stuff that's kind of behind the scenes. Along 282 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.640 with what Paul Hayman was able to turn that into on Monday, it was 283 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.640 able to turn into something I could accept and be at peace with. Well, 284 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:33.119 I mean, I was in the production drug I was getting ready to 285 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:36.240 head back Hotellers, so I I found out that it was Brock and Taker. 286 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:37.680 I had to see that match. So I watched there in the truck 287 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:41.519 with Kevin dunewhile he was calling all the angles and it was, you know, 288 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:45.599 a very hard fought match, and when you know, Rock went over 289 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:51.119 that crowd jaws dropped and just people could not believe it. Hill. I 290 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:53.039 couldn't believe it, And I was like, that was the finish? Really? 291 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:57.240 And you know you didn't You didn't know going in. I didn't know 292 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:00.799 the finish going into it. Yeah, nobody told me, and I didn't 293 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.079 ask because I don't want to know. I wanted to watch it. Yeah, 294 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:06.240 and he shot it shot me, uh, because I just wanted to 295 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:08.200 take it to go twenty two and oh, it's just so special. And 296 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:12.559 Brock is a damn good friend of mine. Excuse the language. Brock is 297 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:15.960 a very good friend of mine, so you can say, damn the shock. 298 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.279 Okay, the fact you have to win is fine with me. And 299 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:21.920 I didn't get a chance to see the Paul Hayman interview on Monday, but 300 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:26.559 heard it was just pure platinum. So if anybody's going to break the streak, 301 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:29.720 I'm glad it was. Glad it was brock. Some people had a 302 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:32.880 few issues saying, well, he's not a full timer. Well, it 303 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:34.839 is what it is. And uh, I think you know, if this 304 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:40.559 was on Taker's end, it was a thing where he wanted I'm guessing I'm 305 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:42.240 gonna put moreds in his mouth and maybe I'll find out when I talk to 306 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:45.119 him. But hey, at the end of at the end of his run, 307 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:49.480 or maybe you know, he wanted to just pass the torch rather than 308 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:53.039 just stay twenty two and oh and then right off of the sunset, he 309 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:57.480 wanted to do quote unquote the right thing and pass the torch. Steve, 310 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:00.599 you get asked a lot about Hope Ogan and what you know, when are 311 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:06.000 you going to face him or why didn't you face him? And Undertaker obviously 312 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:10.079 is inasmuch as he exposes himself to people who are gonna bug him about that 313 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:14.079 kind of thing throughout the year. He gets asked all the time since the 314 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:17.119 streak became a big deal, you know, who's going to be opponent next 315 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:18.880 year? You know, are you going to keep doing it? When I 316 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.880 Paul Bear on this show in August of twenty twelve and December twenty twelve, 317 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:26.839 just a few weeks before he died, actually he talked about how you know, 318 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.720 just yeah, Undertaker gets asked out all the time, and I try 319 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:32.720 not to bug him too much about it, but it's always on his mind. 320 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:34.720 I wondered, and this is part of many reasons I wrote about in 321 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:38.319 the Person Coach newsletter this week about it. One of the reasons I'm at 322 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:45.119 peace with that finish is because I think Undertaker now, if he can't wrestle 323 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.119 again physically, and he's been through so much physically, he doesn't now have 324 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:52.400 to figure out on Monday morning when he wakes up after you know, with 325 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:55.519 the streak over, he doesn't have to sit here and deal with the pr 326 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:57.559 aspect of how am I going to say I'm not going to quote defend the 327 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:00.519 streak next year. He doesn't have to work worry about maybe trying to do 328 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:03.640 it one more time and put his body through what it took for him to 329 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:07.920 get in ring shape again. He gets to wake up and have that burden 330 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:10.480 off his shoulders. So it was like Matt Hughes when he first lost the 331 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:14.480 welterweight title. Uh said right afterwards in the octagon, it's a relief. 332 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:17.319 I'm not sad. It's a lot of pressure. That's part of the reason 333 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:21.640 I'm at peace with it because I think it's kind of potentially at this point, 334 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:25.480 not knowing Mark's perspective, Mark Hallowe Undertaker's perpective on it, it might 335 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:27.440 be a little selfish of us to say we wanted the streak to go on, 336 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:33.160 because if Mark wanted it to end, that's the right ending to the 337 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.440 street. Well, again, the key there is if Mark wanted it to 338 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:40.960 end, and I certainly don't think Mark did anything he didn't want to do. 339 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:45.640 Yeah, I'm at peace with it either way, just because you know, 340 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:49.319 I'm from I'm from the business, and it shot me and I was 341 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:53.000 I wanted to see this, this great stay intact. I didn't look at 342 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:56.359 you know, the the angle of ay Taker always waking up and saying, 343 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:00.480 who's going to have to defend the streak against his just eyes heys pro wrestling. 344 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.599 To me, I'm still a pro wrestler, but I'm still a fan 345 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:07.960 as well, So you know I didn't I didn't go into that much as 346 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:12.240 that deep of thinking. I just wanted to see Taker go over. What 347 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:15.319 would you do as a as a fan? You say you watch our think 348 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:18.839 of the fan? Also, what would you like to see if the fan 349 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.839 happened with brock Lesner next? And how would you utilize whatever power got passed 350 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:26.599 to Lesnar by being the person who Pintaker. How would you utilize that to 351 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.440 make the most out of it. Oh, well, it was a very 352 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:33.759 special win to break that streak, and I would heat and bronc up to 353 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:38.640 just be a pure monster, run through everybody on the roster until next year, 354 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:42.759 and then see what happened at Brusselmania and seeing who they want to put 355 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:48.720 in position to be the be the next guy and have those two guys go 356 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.440 head to head. Now, there's a few names that we could obviously to 357 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:55.559 start throwing up, but I'd rather not do that. So, just talking 358 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:59.039 specifically about brock Lesner, I'd heat his ass up and just keep him, 359 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:00.960 keep him an animal. I'd actually see if I could get a few more 360 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:03.680 dates out of Hi. Might payhim a little bit more money, but make 361 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:07.680 him, you know, a little bit more regular on TV and just put 362 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:11.359 a ton of steam on him. And Paul Hayman been cutting some damn good 363 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:15.079 promos and you know, bron Just when Bronck was walking down a ramp the 364 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:17.680 other day, then you're scared the hell out of me. Boy. You 365 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:22.279 talked about menacing and tough, everything that a hero wants to be. I 366 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:26.039 would feed him up and just have him run through everybody like a hot knife. 367 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:30.240 Drew Butter, I agree with that. I agree with that. Need 368 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:34.960 an extra dose of positivity in your wrestling podcasts. Will come join me Alan 369 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:40.880 fourrel Over in the Progress Paradise at Peenews Torch vip as. We mask on 370 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:45.119 the bright side of wrestling and focus on some of the great matches and shows 371 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.839 from around the world, be it the US, Japan, Europe or Mexico. 372 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:52.839 There's always a place for wrestlings past and the Paradise too, and we've 373 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:57.920 done fun historical shows such as the We Love Liger series celebrating the glorious career 374 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:03.519 of Jusian and our I was there. 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Back to questions and now Steve, let's go 384 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:52.200 to the phone lines and go to a VIP member. Carl from a lack 385 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:56.279 of Minnesota. Carl, thanks for your membership and welcome to the show you're 386 00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:00.599 on with Steve Austin. Hey, hey, you've take my call absolutely. 387 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:07.759 What have you got for Steve today? My first question for Steve is if 388 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.799 you were to come back for wrestlmating A thirty one or thirty two. Hypothetically, 389 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:15.640 who would you rather work with John Senor hypothetically if CM punk came back, 390 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.000 who do you think would be a better program? And obviously i'd love 391 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:22.039 to see the dynamics of you and Hayman doing promos would be magnificent. And 392 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:26.160 of course you guys have history together. I was wondering what your opinion on 393 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.559 that was. Man, I'll tell you what I think. That's six one 394 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:33.680 and a half dozen the other both of them, it really be saifty safety. 395 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:37.359 You know, they've been the big war dres if And I'm not again, 396 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:41.440 I'm not settling the match, but I think I could knock a grand 397 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:44.720 Slam out of the park with either guy. And that's and that's that's the 398 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.440 truth. Have you ruled out a return? I mean, I'm not saying 399 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:51.680 put percentage on it, but is there a chance that you still consider the 400 00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:59.039 possibility? Maybe maybe as far as i'd go, yeah much, I'm pretty 401 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:02.400 much passed it. Yeah, Yeah, all right, very good. Let's 402 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:06.039 go to our next call. Air quote five seven. Oh it's the VIP 403 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:10.240 member Larry from Pennsylvania on the VP Express line. Larry, thanks for calling. 404 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:14.160 What have you got for Steve? Austin today. Alright, thanks Bully. 405 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.680 Actually I just listened to your interviews on Stonefold's podcast today too, So 406 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:22.880 I just found that podcast, Steve, and I'm really enjoying it a lot. 407 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:26.359 Man, Steve, Steve real quick, Larry hold on Steve plug where 408 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.599 people can find it. I assume people know where it is if they're listening 409 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.160 to this show, but tell people how they can find it. And about 410 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:36.000 the two versions. Yeah, there's two versions of the Steve Boston Show. 411 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:40.680 The Family Friendly Show drops on Tuesday. Steve Boston Show at least, which 412 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:45.480 is explicit content language wise, it's everything but the kitchen Sync. They're both 413 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.480 free downloads. You download them for free and you can go to podcast one 414 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:55.759 dot com and iTunes and I'm under the Sports and Recreation department under iTunes. 415 00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.680 So Tuesday and Thursday one Family Friendly that you can listen to with your kids. 416 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.759 Yeah, went off the charts with the language and Tuesday Thursday podcast one 417 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:07.720 dot com and iTunes. Thank you. And Michael Hayes just went up with 418 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.880 it just today, Steve, I know, I hit refreshing thought just went 419 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.920 up today. They actually need to go out, you know, about midnight 420 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:19.160 the night before. So talked to Michael Hayes Free Birds and talk a little 421 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:22.559 bit about Russell Maya thirty. I was gonna do a Russell Mallia thirty show, 422 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:26.319 and I'm gonna do that for this coming Tuesday. I didn't get a 423 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:29.880 chance to see the entire cards, so Kevin Dunn sending me a DVD. 424 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:33.519 I'll rewatch everything and do my wrestle Mania third thirty show this coming Tuesday. 425 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.519 Cool, I'll go ahead, Larry, Sorry about that. Yeah, that 426 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.240 was a great interview with with Wade. By the way, man, I 427 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:44.480 appreciate everything to do Wade that that was awesome. Thank you appreciate it. 428 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.799 Yeah, uh st cold? How long did it now? Obviously end ring 429 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.640 You're a great on the mic and stuff, but when you started plodcappening with 430 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.480 it hard to adjust to that. Yeah, it was a little bit hard 431 00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:57.839 because all of a sudden, you just sitting there with a microphone and you're 432 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:00.759 in front of you It's like, well, okay, what they are got 433 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:04.599 to say? The first time I had timpted the podcast, it was kind 434 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.400 of my test runner, and I hit the wall in about ten minutes, 435 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:11.880 and I didn't know whether to crap or wind my watch. So then I 436 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.599 started taking a few note and then started, you know, started the interview 437 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.880 process. And some of those interviews were a little bit on the rough side. 438 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.839 So now I know to do my due diligence, my research and anytime, 439 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.119 you know, if it's just me talking, you know, answering questions, 440 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.200 I've picked out all those questions ahead of time. I've got a little 441 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:32.920 bit of material written down in front of me, and sometimes I just turned 442 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:36.319 on the mic and just start talking. But it does take a while. 443 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:38.839 And I think the way you can attest to this anything you do, and 444 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:41.960 I think this goes with anything in life. On the job, training and 445 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:45.400 repetition are key, So the more you do it, the better you get 446 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:52.039 at it. That instead go ahead, god. Yeah. That being said, 447 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:53.920 I'm not saying I'm the best there is or pro with this, because 448 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.599 when you go to some of these radio stations and watch some of these guys 449 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.160 have been doing this for twenty twenty five years, they're bad at yes, 450 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.839 but my message is what it is, and that's what people expect out of 451 00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.000 my podcast, and that's what they'd get. Audio will pass and remembered to 452 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.759 them. Ride in the day here, fair good, Larry anything else your 453 00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:17.640 tea. Uh. I just listened to the rt of V uh the r 454 00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:22.559 V one that you had where your your wife had all the blankets and stuff 455 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.759 and you had to go to Walmart and uh get and get a sleeping bag. 456 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.079 I guess my question is how hard is it for you to go out 457 00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.079 in public? I mean, I think in that episode you said your wife 458 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.400 went into Walmart for you. Is it really tough for you to just go 459 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.519 out there in public and go to a store and stuff like that without being 460 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:42.720 her ass and stuff? Well, and in Los Angeles I can pretty much 461 00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:47.519 go everywhere anywhere and not really get bothered. Now you go to South Texas 462 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.359 and uh into a Walmart, you know, it'd be like Michael Jackson walking 463 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:55.119 into a place. So uh, it all depends. You know. Back 464 00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:57.519 in the day when I was on Monday Night Raw every single week and we 465 00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:02.480 were doing you know, stupid race thing, it was pretty crazy. Things 466 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.640 have simmered dad a little bit. Uh. You know, the more exposed 467 00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:08.079 you have, the easier it is for people to recognize you. That been 468 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:12.880 said, man, I wear camo baseball cap, sunglasses. I'm only you 469 00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:17.880 know, six one six two two sixty, so I couldn't blend in pretty 470 00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:19.720 good, whereas you know, you look at Hull Cog and you look at 471 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:23.359 Rock you know two you know, big good looking guys that are you know, 472 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.319 very unique. I can blend in a little bit better than they can. 473 00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:33.799 Cool Larry, appreciate the cank uh and the questions. Yes, thanks 474 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.279 lot, guys, thank you these you bet Let's go to another Yeah, 475 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.519 if you remember, also named Larry, but over in Atlanta. Larry, 476 00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.640 welcome to the program. You're on with Stone Cold Steve Boston. Hey cool, 477 00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:48.119 thanks thanks? Wait, yeah, so, I uh two questions. 478 00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.559 Hopefully I'm not getting intro for the first one, but I've been wondering about 479 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.079 this question. Uh you want to one one on some CLO's personal life to 480 00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.559 as a career, you know, I guess I guess one I guess I 481 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:07.039 was disappointed about was kind of the domestic incidents that Steve had. I guess 482 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.759 I'm kind of wondering what he's learned from those situations, if it's anything that 483 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:17.480 he has sort of been self reflective about, because I figured there's a lot 484 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:21.960 of misinformation out there and I'm not even sure if see would be wanted to 485 00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:29.640 talk about what exactly lent down the nature went pleasure. There's really the pleasure 486 00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.240 to talk about something like that. Go ahead and go to the next question. 487 00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:33.759 Okay, go Aheadry, I put you on hold because I wanted Steve 488 00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:37.200 to be Atlanta. Go ahead, Larry, Sure, all right, no 489 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:42.039 problem. Well that's understandable. The second question, though, career wise, 490 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:48.640 is you know you you had a great run as Stunning Steve and w c 491 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.920 W and then when you came in as the ring master, you know you 492 00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:55.759 you kind of like you were talking about with your early podcast, did you 493 00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.039 kind of hit that wall as far as what you could do career wise, 494 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:03.240 as far as the ability that you could have to move upward? What do 495 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.839 you feel like you learned that really needs you more comfortable and more able to 496 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:14.160 break out and and kind of tap in your real personality. Well, let's 497 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:15.720 stone call Steve Austin. I. All I have to do is go out 498 00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:21.240 there and turn the volume up and uh be aggressive in nature. As far 499 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:25.839 as in regards to competition, fighting for a spottle on that roster. Uh, 500 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:27.079 you know, someone tells you you're gonna come in and be the ring 501 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:30.519 master, it's kind of hard to wrap your head and your heart around that 502 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.759 and be that the master of the ring. It sounded sounded pretty good with 503 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.240 Vince's pitching it because I needed a job, But once you get out there 504 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.640 and start doing it, it sounds like crap. So you know, it's 505 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.480 fighting, fighting the right, dialing it in and then going for it. 506 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:51.359 Do you do you think that? Do you think that the Stunning Steve character, 507 00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:53.480 you know, kind of where your experience level and your head was at 508 00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:57.359 the time. Do you feel like that was a good enough vehicle to kind 509 00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.480 of reflect your your person at the time. You know, maybe not as 510 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:04.880 ideal as stone Cold, but you know, something along those lines as you 511 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:09.200 were getting started, I think Stunning Steve Olson was a guy who was trying 512 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:14.200 to emulate a lot of what Rick Flair did, And of course we all 513 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:19.319 know that there's only one Rick Flair and that style wasn't or me trying to 514 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.759 go down that road was what was going to take me to the top. 515 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:29.160 But maybe it was my rendition of my version of a vein of Rick Flair, 516 00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:32.279 because he was very influential, in my opinion, the greatest professional wrestler 517 00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:37.319 that's ever lipped. Give yourself a reason to look forward to going to the 518 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:43.319 mailbox each week with a PW Torch Newsletter paper copy. Subscription details at PW 519 00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.359 torch dot com slash paper Copy. It's twelve pages every week packed with my 520 00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:51.200 TV reports, along with exclusive features such as my cover story on the top 521 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.039 story of the week, our pay per view roundtable reviews from the Torch staff, 522 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:59.519 exclusive feature length columns from Greg Parks, Rich Fan, Sean Radikin, 523 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.119 Alan Coonahan, and Zach Haydorn, Torch Talk transcripts, the latest news, 524 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.160 and more. PW torch dot com slash paper Copy. Take a break from 525 00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:13.920 screen time and settle in every week with a megados of wrestling news and analysis 526 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.599 with a Pro Wrestling Torch Newsletter paper Copy edition in the year twenty twenty two. 527 00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.119 You can get a full year of home delivery for just ninety nine dollars, 528 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:28.160 or try us for an eight week trial subscription PW torch dot com slash 529 00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:36.160 Paper Copy. We have an email question we got that I just pulled up. 530 00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.599 I remember it about the ringmaster gimmick. This is a Jose from OXYNRD, 531 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:42.960 California. He says. Austin says that the Ringmaster wasn't for him, 532 00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.920 who does he think would have taken that character and made a good run with 533 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:50.000 it. I was thinking somebody like Shane Douglas swig a beer for the working 534 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:55.720 man, you know, someone who would have been a real a lot better 535 00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:01.200 technical restaurant than Mad Scientific would have been good at that. But that being 536 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.640 said, you know, the Ringmaster. It is what it is. I 537 00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.559 don't see a much of merch flying off the show. Yeah, yeah, 538 00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.960 well, put all right, let's go to another VF. You remember Brian 539 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.719 from Minnesota and then in the nine to five too, Brian, how's it 540 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:22.000 going? It's gone good. Guys. Steve, you said you were inside 541 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.199 the truck at WrestleMania thirty. I have a question about the graphic coming up 542 00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:29.599 that said twenty one in one. Was that someone in the truck saying that 543 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.320 to go up and then pull it down to bring on the effect in the 544 00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:37.159 shock longer? Or was that just a mistake, if you know, I 545 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.199 have no idea about that. I was just sitting there drinking a beer and 546 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:44.360 watching the show, and so when I saw it come up, I wasn't 547 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.159 pay any attention to I was trying to listen to the commentary. So yeah, 548 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:50.760 I don't know whether it's a mistake or what the plan was for that 549 00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.760 at all. Okay, I'll saw. I was curious, how did you 550 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.159 get involved in when with WrestleMania thirty. How was it pitched to you? 551 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.239 And by whom it feel comfortable and saying to take part in the Wrestlingia thirties. 552 00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:07.639 There's a few people that approached me about it, and then uh talk 553 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:13.280 to me about the opening deal with the two guys that done business with and 554 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.960 uh, so you know, I knew probably ill two two and a half, 555 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:20.480 three weeks before before the event happened, that I would be there. 556 00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.440 Was there any consideration of any fourth person being in that mix? I can't 557 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:28.239 think of one person who absolutely belonged on the stage with you three, But 558 00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.400 was there any consideration with whether it's Bruno or Sean or Flair anybody else being 559 00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:35.880 in there with you? No, it was always pitch. The only pitch 560 00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.960 to me was with Hogan Rock myself. Yeah, and I think it makes 561 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:43.159 sense. I mean, that was a unique opportunity in that crowd, with 562 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:46.159 Hulk finally being back and not as an active wrestler. It just yeah, 563 00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:51.039 I mean, had you three ever been in the same room together. I 564 00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:52.760 don't know if there's an obviously yes or not of that. I can't remember. 565 00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:55.599 Well, you know, I can't remember if we have or not. 566 00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:01.880 Maybe maybe when when Hogan and Nash and Scott Hall came in, we might 567 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:06.360 have been, but not like that. It was funny because we was at 568 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:08.960 the gorilla position, you know, the holding area before but it goes out 569 00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:13.320 and we were laughing, and we know we kind of it was kind of 570 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:16.519 you know, Hogan was gonna talk, I was gonna talk, Rock was 571 00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.000 going to talk. But other than that, I mean, you know, 572 00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:21.159 people just kind of we just kind of said, well, we were going 573 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:22.199 to say it. All of a sudden, we're back there and we're laughing 574 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.880 and joking, and I think Hogan was very excited about being back in the 575 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:30.440 mix and being back home because I think a WWE is his home. He 576 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.960 had so much to do with the early days of it, and uh, 577 00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.519 it was just in such such an important part of pro wrestling. And then 578 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.360 he went out there did his thing and he called it the Silver Dome. 579 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.400 I don't care very well. So it was brought to my attention and we 580 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:46.840 were back there laughing. Our hands is off, so I called it the 581 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:52.199 Silver Dome too, and left it to Rock to correct it with the Superdome. 582 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:57.480 So it was all It was very fun. It was very loose and 583 00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.800 a lot of adrenaline back there, and we all three had damn good time. 584 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:04.320 It was a pleasure to be in the ring with those two guys while 585 00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.840 really really look up to both of them. Somebody asked us trying to find 586 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:10.360 his email to give him credit for somebody I'd asked by email if if Hogan 587 00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:13.760 knew the line was coming, do you want me to take open a can 588 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:15.159 of Whoopath and Hulk Hogan? Did he know that was coming? Or was 589 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:19.559 that one of the improvisers at the moment? No, I was totally done 590 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.199 in the moment. I had to say something because I knew I was gonna 591 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:24.400 put him over and say, you know, because people thought, you know, 592 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:28.519 all through our careers, people thought there's been a lot of heat between 593 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.760 myself and Hogan. There's never been any heat. It's a very competitive issue. 594 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:35.480 You know. He had a very long run. I had a very 595 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:42.400 intense shorter run. So both runs were very distinct and very different. Yeah, 596 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.039 but when you're caught up in the mix, this guy like asking Lebron 597 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:49.880 James. How good Kevin Durantz is doing right now. He's going to put 598 00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.880 him over a little bit, but not like you know, because he's in 599 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.719 the game and so you know, I never did have a bunch of blowing 600 00:37:55.800 --> 00:38:00.880 things to say about Hogan back it probably the same token made that we're competitive 601 00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:05.119 guys. And now that I've been away from the game for a long time, 602 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:07.760 you know, got no problem. And I wanted to show our respects 603 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.920 to Hogan and make sure that everyone know that there's no Adams you no heat 604 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.199 there. I got a lot of respect for what that guy did. But 605 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:15.920 yes, that was that was a total adlimb. He didn't know what was 606 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.960 coming, and I put him on the hook and then I let him off 607 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:23.719 the hook just just because that's what you do out there. Yeah. Yeah, 608 00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:27.679 by the way, credit for that question just is from Adam. I 609 00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.239 want to give him a shout out. He also Adam also wants to know, 610 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.440 Steve, did you try to get have you tried to get Tentic Man 611 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:36.079 on the Steve Austin Show, And if not, is there any chance that 612 00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:39.559 would be amazing? Yeah? I would have Vince on the show here pretty 613 00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:43.559 quick. I mean not pretty quick, but yeah, in the near future, 614 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:45.239 I would like to He's already agreed to do the show. It's just 615 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:50.119 about figning the right time and place. Yeah, cool, excellent, that'd 616 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.719 be great. Wissemania thirty I saw Vince plenty, but he's so damn busy 617 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.920 on a WrestleMania that is not a good time to ask a man for an 618 00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.760 hour of his times. No, no, yeah, I I feel the 619 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:01.679 same way. Run with men a weekend with my job. I can only 620 00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:05.960 imagine Vince can only imagine that. All right, let's let's keep going through 621 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:07.719 the phone calls. Here, let's go next to air code three one nine 622 00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:12.400 three one nine, Please stay to name it where you're calling from. This 623 00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.800 is Andrew c Rappids, Iowa. Andrew, thanks for calling. What have 624 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:17.360 you got for Stone Cold Steve Boston today? Yeah, this is an honor 625 00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:21.360 to talk to you, Steve and Wade. I was checking stuff on Amazon, 626 00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.679 so you caught me at the wrong time. But my question is, 627 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.760 I assumed that you worked with Dencruso in the I Fudera. How much credit 628 00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:34.360 do you give him for your character? And when he went to w CW, 629 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.880 like, how did you feel about that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 630 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:43.639 as far as miss Russo goes, as far as my character, that 631 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:45.920 was me. As far as did he help, Oh he's tremendous. I 632 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.599 had a lot of fun working with Vince rus So. He had some great 633 00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.480 ideas and sometimes you had to reel Vince end a little bit, Bence rus 634 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:57.360 So in a little bit. But he was certainly ready to push envelope and 635 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.639 had a lot of great ideas. And uh, yeah, I take all 636 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.880 the credit, but I give credit where credits due. Vent Russo had some 637 00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.079 good ideas and I enjoyed working with him. And what was that? What 638 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.760 was the w c W question? Oh, how'd you feel when he left? 639 00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:15.519 Oh? You know, that's that's the restling business. And you know 640 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.840 when he went down to w c W, I don't think he was just 641 00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.079 he was as successful as he was in WWE. I think, uh, 642 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:27.000 he had a good mind, but sometimes, you know, left to his 643 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.679 own devices, would go too far. And and you know, some of 644 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:34.039 the some of the ideas weren't so great. So I think within the confines 645 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.880 with someone to keep him reeled in, very good, but left to his 646 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:40.719 own devices, maybe not as good as he was in w W. Uh, 647 00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.000 very good. We'll put let's go to uh Eric code eight six four, 648 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:47.800 South Carolina. Please state your name in the city you're calling from. 649 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.079 Oh, yes, this is Charles sitting from orbs Outh. Herelana, Charls. 650 00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:57.920 What have you got for some cold? Oh? They' got two quick 651 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:04.199 questions? What movie project so are you currently working on? And if you 652 00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:08.000 could play any role, what would it be? Man, I scratched a 653 00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:13.280 couple of things that I was working on, and right now I'm just trying 654 00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.760 to cool my jets a little bit. I just got bit of shooting met 655 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.239 like I said, that show for CMT, So nothing right now and the 656 00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:23.159 movie works and U As far as playing any role, man, I don't 657 00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:28.639 know. That's the damn good question, A question I don't have an answer 658 00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.039 to. You know what. Hell, if I go go back and be 659 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:35.719 Paul Newman and cool hand Luke, that'd be a pretty good spots. So 660 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:37.679 let me jump in real quick, Charles, and you can hold on. 661 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:42.159 Somebody had emailed and wanted to know when you're gonna do a buddy flick with 662 00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.199 the Rock if anything like that hasn't talked about it about you and Rock doing 663 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:47.599 a movie together, Well, I can ask that all the time, and 664 00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:52.880 I'm the rock does as well. Rock's playing up there in the big leagues, 665 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.039 so you know that'd be more of a question to ask the rock. 666 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.480 Well, hopefully I get a chance. That'd be fun have them money. 667 00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:05.519 Go ahead, Charles, all right, real quickly album the video kind of 668 00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.440 own now, But I wanted to know, did you ever see the YouTube 669 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:14.320 video with Stone code et and what were your thoughts about that? Yeah? 670 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.880 Sel I thought it was pretty funny. It wasn't viral, but you know, 671 00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:21.280 you know, and it was real funny. But you know, that's 672 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:22.360 all I can say about it. I mean, it was what it was, 673 00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:27.199 alright, very good, Charles, appreciate the call. Well, keep 674 00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:30.719 moving through calls here, so many people on hold. Let's go to Massachusetts 675 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:32.280 next there code nine to seven eight. Please let us know your name and 676 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:42.639 what city you're calling from. Going once, going twice? There we go? 677 00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:52.320 All right. Every Sunday night, catch Wrestling Night in America on PW 678 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:58.199 Torchdailycast dot Com, hosted by me PW Torch columnist Greg Parks. Each week, 679 00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:00.119 I'll welcome a co host from the Torch family to discuss the big shows 680 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.639 and pro wrestling. Taking your calls and emails. You can listen live most 681 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.960 week's beginning at eight pm Eastern on Sunday nights with a WWE or Impact pay 682 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:10.400 per view, we go on the air. At the conclusion of that pay 683 00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:13.840 per view, you can listen live, but of course, the full show 684 00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:17.760 is available for download on demand anytime shortly after it airs. Visit PW torchdailycast 685 00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:22.119 dot com and click the live stream link to find the next scheduled live show 686 00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:25.679 link. Search PW Torch and Apple Podcasts or your podcast app to subscribe Wrestling 687 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:44.320 Night in America every Sunday. PW Torchdailycast dot com. Let's go to New 688 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.559 York next, Derek code nine one seven nine one seven. Please state your 689 00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:51.400 name and where you're calling from. Hey Darren, guys, this is Joe 690 00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:53.000 from in New York. Joe, thanks for Colin. What have you got 691 00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:58.760 for stone Cold? A more or less a comment and a question? I 692 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:05.119 was just looking on Facebook and DDP actually just posted an apology for that crap 693 00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:10.159 dated on Nancy Gracier's Today where they just the media just loves to blame steroids 694 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:15.079 on everything that happens. You're willy bagging around going to the school bus, 695 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.679 break your Ankle. It's because I was taking steroids. And one of the 696 00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.880 videos that they showed on her show was a capture of like all these wrestlers 697 00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:27.599 who had passed away from steroids, and one of the wrestlers on the video 698 00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:32.199 was Owen Hart, and I just felt this absolutely disgusting and irresponsible for her 699 00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:37.679 to even have her video on a television show just shows stupid stuff like that. 700 00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.280 Man, it's absolutely disgusting. You know, learn learns, you know, 701 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.519 knowledge yourself on the fact, you know, wait for the autops to 702 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:49.679 reports to come out, and everything they do today is now blamed on steroids 703 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:54.400 just pisses me off. And my question for Steve if he had to have 704 00:44:54.639 --> 00:45:01.000 a one offshoot dream match at WrestleMania in his time against anyone that's ever lived 705 00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:07.920 in wrestling, who would want to main events in wrestlingia? Man, that's 706 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:13.920 a that's a that's a good question. Yeah, oh those yeah, since 707 00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.320 since uh since my favorite pro wrest with Ric Flair. If you could have 708 00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:21.679 put if you could have put Rick Flair at thirty five versus uh Stone coach 709 00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:24.679 Steve Austin at thirty five, I think you'd had a hill of a damn 710 00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:30.679 match what arena, Oh man, it hadn't been it hadn't be a stadium. 711 00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:32.960 But if it was gonna do it arena or you know, a regular 712 00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:39.320 building, it have to be the Chicago Roseman or Madison Square Garden go on 713 00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:43.800 or god there you or you could take it down Thereto Greensboro. That's what 714 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:45.280 I was thinking down there. Yeah, you gotta go down there in the 715 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:50.199 Flair Country. I'd be a heel. I was gonna say, just for 716 00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.800 fun too, would be fun to do it in the Sportatorium following up Von 717 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.800 Eric Freebert's match. But are they absol That bill is not big enough. 718 00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.960 But yeah, we might take it down Thereto Greensboro because that is a day 719 00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:04.079 I'm pure wrestling country. Oh man, such great Reflaire matches there, absolutely, 720 00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:06.079 I'm you know, And I want to say to Joe long Island, 721 00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:07.480 I didn't see the Nancy Gray segment, and I'm sure it's Nancy Grace. 722 00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:12.199 So there's plenty of room for to pick. Apart the lack of the lack 723 00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:15.199 of diligence, I think it's completely fair to bring up steroids. At the 724 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:20.239 stage of the argument. Ultimate Warrior was very, very very open and a 725 00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.639 proponent of them. He obviously took a lot of them, he admitted and 726 00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:25.760 defended taking a lot of them, and he died at age fifty four while 727 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:30.920 clutching his chest. According to reports, it would be a derelict of duty 728 00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:32.960 for any journalists not to bring up that subject and not to talk about it. 729 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.280 You don't have to wait for an autopsy to in the right context speak 730 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.800 about that possibility. And Steve, but I think it's it's just it depends 731 00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:44.480 on the tone. And I think the reason people get upset with Nancy Grace 732 00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:49.159 is it seems she's kind of that ambulance chasing journalist looking to exploit a situation 733 00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.199 for a week and then forget about it. And I think that's different than 734 00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.000 what we do at the Torch, where we've been talking about this for twenty 735 00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:59.239 six years, every consistently, whether it's a glamorous story or not. It's 736 00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:01.480 not just a ratings yet. And steroids is an issue in wrestling, and 737 00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:05.880 when somebody who was a proponent of it admitted to taking them while he was 738 00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:07.960 in wrestling, out of him dies while clutching his chest at age fifty four 739 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:13.880 while swating profusely for three days before that it's it's fair to talk about it. 740 00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:16.159 It's just all about tone and not seeming like you're trying to exploit the 741 00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:21.360 situation. Is that fair, Stief? I think you're headed down the right 742 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:25.760 track your way. But to the to the other person's point, I saw 743 00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:29.719 that scrolling list and saw Owen Hart's name on it. I mean, if 744 00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:34.000 you're gonna do something, you get your stuff straight. I also heard another 745 00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.400 thing from Colin Hurd talking about a bunch of guys who weren't good enough to 746 00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:42.360 make it in football and they can eat down a living, uh you know, 747 00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:45.840 maybe makes some damn good money by getting into pro wrestling, basically looking 748 00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:49.039 down on the industry as a bunch of guys who aren't good enough to play 749 00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.840 pro football so they decided to get in the squared circle and used steroids. 750 00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:59.079 So I thought his whole tone and delivery was way off course and totally disrespectful, 751 00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:00.840 you know, to think, I guess pretty good at what it does. 752 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:06.639 But yeah, and a lot of times I'm right on base with with 753 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:12.119 a mansion Grace, Uh that's your name, right, yep, Yeah, 754 00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.639 sorry, I'm getting them extra So yeah, many times I'm on base with 755 00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:17.599 what she says, but yeah, and like you said, Wade, yeah, 756 00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:21.000 if you can, damn sure and bring in steroids. But again, 757 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.760 you know, show me the damn autopsy and there's no design that he used 758 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:30.920 the damn the stuff. But to your point, it's total Yeah, yeah, 759 00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.400 and it just don't look like you're just trying to go out there and 760 00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:37.039 just draw ratings by being as bombastic and jump into conclusions as possible. One 761 00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:40.480 more question on the seriate issue and then we'll go on from there. Steve, 762 00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:45.400 I don't know have you have you went with other colleagues over the years 763 00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.920 ever just sitting down before after the matches in the locker room. Is it's 764 00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:52.239 something that wrestlers talk about with each other in terms of not just steroids but 765 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:57.599 supplements, just like keeping trying to be healthy, well, doing what helps 766 00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:00.440 you in your career, keep up with everybody else and what they're doing. 767 00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:04.880 Do you ever had have you ever had buddies or friends or people you respected 768 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.360 in wrestling younger older come up to you or talk to them about you know, 769 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.960 what are we doing? Are we being safe? Are we worried about 770 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:15.320 the long term ramifications? Are we worried about how much you can get away 771 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.960 with taking before it turns into an issue when you are in your fifties as 772 00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:21.800 opposed to live in a happy life to your eighties, nineties or hundredths. 773 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:24.840 Man, I think that's that's kind of more of a friend I have question. 774 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:29.679 You're going to ask somebody that's pretty tight with rather than just someone that 775 00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.239 you don't know the same let me let me ask you about your regimen. 776 00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:37.920 Uh yeah, yeah, friends will always talk, but just guys as far 777 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:43.000 as being colleagues, I mean, that's a pretty close personal matter, and 778 00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:45.119 so I don't know too many people that would share that kind of full one 779 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:51.239 one. Uh. And certainly I didn't know what the parameters of the wellness 780 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:55.320 policy or whatever's in places right now. So uh, that's a that's a 781 00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:59.039 pretty private matter for a lot of guys, you know, whether you're talking 782 00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:06.199 about anything in regards to their personal business, that's pretty closed subject. Yeah. 783 00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:08.239 So if fans out there have this idea that some rookie shows up and 784 00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:10.840 it's able to just walk up to a ten year veteran and go, hey, 785 00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:14.320 what should I be on? What supplements are good? Is there you 786 00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:16.159 have a place where I can get some you know, a doctor who'll get 787 00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:20.280 me some you know, legal testostero and that's that's. It doesn't go like 788 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.320 that at all. No, no, no, no, no, no, 789 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:23.119 no, man. I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, 790 00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:30.000 everything is that's that's a pretty private matter. Yeah yeah, all right. 791 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.800 Let's go back to the phone lines here, go to New Jersey next 792 00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.400 in aera code six oh nine. Thanks for calling sixs on nine. Please 793 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.679 state your name in the city you're calling from. Wow, Thank you Wade. 794 00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.159 This is Lewis from New Jersey. Thank you Wade for taking my call 795 00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:45.719 because I was trying to call him last time, like fifteen minutes before the 796 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.480 show. I didn't get in. But yeah, don't hold big fan of 797 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.599 yours. I got. I got three questions, but don't worry. They're 798 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.280 pretty quick. Okay, all right, my first question. Just ask them 799 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.519 all at once, wait or one. I'll go ahead, ask them out 800 00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.239 once and I'll take quick notes so we keep track. Sorry, definitely, 801 00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:06.639 all right. Well, I actually missed the opportunity to actually like meet you 802 00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:08.480 because I was I was on the same plane that you were in, but 803 00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:12.880 you were in you were in first class, and I was making my way 804 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.760 to the back. But the plane wasn't packed at all, and I was 805 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:19.679 like in a tugger war with myself Steve, because I was I was saying 806 00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.840 myself, Wow, like, what should I approach him? I'm a smart 807 00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:27.559 mark. But if I approach him he I'm scared that he's gonna give me 808 00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.800 some type of treatment. He's gonna think I'm like a casual mark. So 809 00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:34.519 I have no idea how to do it, and I just missed my opportunity. 810 00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:40.599 So can you educate the smart marks and the casual marks on how you 811 00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:45.079 would like them to approach you if they just want to have like a casual 812 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:51.400 conversation with you next. I hope he took that down weight. So I 813 00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:55.519 just want to know it because of the fact that your character has been I 814 00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:00.960 mean, your your actual Steve Williams personality, because you said that your character 815 00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:07.440 was more of a intense version of yourself since the tone down version has been 816 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.519 exposed so much on TVD. If you did have a program with somebody, 817 00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:15.440 how how would you want to portray your character now that there's been so much 818 00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:19.519 exposure. And last to not least, I have to know, are you 819 00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.400 a I know that your catchphrase was don't trust anybody, but were you a 820 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:27.920 loner because I'm a loner too. But I'm a loner because I enjoy my 821 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.360 alone time. But I want to know, what do you think in your 822 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:36.079 past made you a loner? Was it backstabbings? Was it like you know 823 00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:39.320 anything? Was it because you just learned how to enjoy your own company? 824 00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:44.519 Like? What was it? And that's pretty much it? I got you 825 00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.840 taking my clone absolutely absolutely, yeah, Steeple. What's advice for how fanciuld 826 00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:52.320 approach wrestlers in public? If they should and under what circumstances is it okay? 827 00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:54.280 And when is it? Definitely not? Man, I'll tell you what. 828 00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:59.440 That's just that that's a hitter missh type thing. I mean, because 829 00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:02.239 man, I'm an entertainment business. I always want to be nice to everybody, 830 00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:07.000 and I appreciate anybody that's able to help me make a living. And 831 00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:09.320 for the most part, man, I'm about ninety eight percent always owned. 832 00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:13.920 But every now and then, man, I have a real bad day or 833 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:16.840 I have had some bad news, just like anybody else has, and it's 834 00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:21.119 not such a great time. But at the very least I can say hey, 835 00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.079 man, say hey, Steve, big fan, and what if I 836 00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:25.960 can get your autograph or hey Steve, big fans just want to say I 837 00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:30.280 like what you do, or you know, it's okay to approach people, 838 00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:35.199 but kind of read them a little bit because you can tell somebody some people 839 00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:37.719 you know obviously by just by body language, they don't want to be bothered. 840 00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.960 I never try to use that body language. But again, man, 841 00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:45.159 all the guys and gals out there or anybody shown business is a human being, 842 00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:50.159 and it's just like when you have a real bad day and you really 843 00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:52.599 don't want anybody to come up to you and bothering you. It's one of 844 00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:55.800 those things. But I always try to I like to think them about ninety 845 00:53:55.840 --> 00:54:02.000 eight percent use a friendly How about the h the idea that people have gotten 846 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:07.679 to know you and not your character? Would that change the way you would 847 00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:10.840 portray your character? My take is you're You're You're the real you is so 848 00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:14.960 damn close to stone cold that I don't know that that would even cross your 849 00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:16.199 mind to be an issue these days, and the girls my mind to be 850 00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:20.960 an issue at all. I think it actually it would enhance everything because people 851 00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:25.119 actually know, uh, yeah, I have a humor and I'm a regular 852 00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:28.119 guy. But all of a sudden. That's one of the things I was 853 00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:30.800 I was talking about Jerry Loli the other day. One thing that one thing 854 00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.519 I enjoyed so much about Lawla's work was you could get him revved up in 855 00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.480 a red hot angle. But he could start, you know, at five 856 00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.559 hundred RPMs and get all the way to eight thousand RPMs. Uh, just 857 00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:45.840 even at the height of an angle. So you know, there's there's those 858 00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:49.599 those those ranges, there's those levels, and so yeah, they would only 859 00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:53.159 it give me more material to work with. Actually, yeah, yeah, 860 00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:59.360 people have gotten to people have gotten to know you. And it doesn't you 861 00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.480 know, just just because of the fact that I like to lollygag around, 862 00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:07.159 have a few beers and lap my ash up all day doesn't mean you can't 863 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:08.920 get me mad in the order ready to fight. And if we've got a 864 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:13.400 championship melt on the lad of some personal issues, we're gonna ring up the 865 00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:19.159 cash register. Yep, yep. Thanks for downloading today's show. Take it 866 00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.239 to the next level with a VIP membership. 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You know why you are 876 00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:07.840 the way you are? No, man, I just always been like that, 877 00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:12.360 maybe as shy as a kid. You know now you know, being 878 00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.039 stone cold, being around you know, thousands and thousands of people and entertaining 879 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:20.440 people. Uh man, left my own devices. I'm I'm happy as a 880 00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:23.480 lark. Uh It's like when I go do my round television show, whether 881 00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:27.679 it's Bred mc galland or Bus Call Challenge, met up around one hundred people 882 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.360 all day long for a month or two and as fun as hell. I'm 883 00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:34.320 laughing. We're having the time. But when there's time to go home, 884 00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:37.360 and I just got to Hurshy the wonder dog out there with you. We're 885 00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:43.280 going our two mile high hike. I love being by myself and sometimes I 886 00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:45.199 think about all kinds of stuff. Sometimes I don't think about anything. I 887 00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:49.519 listen to a country of musical sharrock and roll up. I want to try 888 00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:52.960 to think of something I enjoy being alone. That don't get me wrong. 889 00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:58.920 Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed being alone. Then again, I enjoy people 890 00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:02.039 too, so it was, Uh, it's just part of my personality. 891 00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:07.360 I guess. Uh, let's go next to eight oh four. This is 892 00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:12.000 Virginia. Please state your name in the city you're calling from. Yes, 893 00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:15.400 how you doing? This is Wayne's VFP member north of Chestervale, Virginia. 894 00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:16.280 How you doing? Way? Doing good thing for me? And on? 895 00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:21.679 What have you got for stone Cold today? All right? First, I 896 00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:23.599 said, it's an honor to be talking to you, Steve Aouston. I'm 897 00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:27.800 a long time fan, and I just wanted to say thank you for all 898 00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:30.960 of your contributions in the wrestling business or for all these years. I just 899 00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:35.800 want to say thank you for the entertaining moment. I appreciate it. Man. 900 00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:39.039 I had a good time doing it, best job I ever had a 901 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:45.880 right I do have a question. I'm not sure if this has been asked 902 00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:49.519 already, but out of all the Manion matches that you've had over the years, 903 00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:52.679 is there one or more wrestler that you, you know, always wanted 904 00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.519 to face but never got the opportunity to do so. And if so, 905 00:57:55.719 --> 00:58:01.719 who would those be? I always you know, a superstar, Billy Graham, 906 00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:07.199 best you roach, two guys you could talk, a Blue Streak, 907 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:14.000 Nikita Kohloff, Magnum t a man within the hands of Stone, Ronnie Garvin. 908 00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:17.280 Just a couple of guys just to pick out randomly. Uh you know, 909 00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:22.480 yeah, hell only Anderson, even Arnt Andson. I restared a couple 910 00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:24.920 of times in Japan and some other places, but you know, never when 911 00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:29.519 I was in really Stone called mode. But a lot of respect for the 912 00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:34.159 Andersons. Only in Arnt. Uh yeah, Tully Blanchard, you know some 913 00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:37.719 of those guys have been fun to work with, very good. Let's squeeze 914 00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:40.199 in a last few phone calls here in the final minutes on the free part 915 00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:43.960 of the live cast. Here by the way, you can find remember a 916 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.519 week where so many things good and bad and in the middle. Happened in 917 00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:52.760 such a concentrated period of time that I mean, I it was, it 918 00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:54.159 was just one thing after another. By the time the Hall of Fame happened, 919 00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:57.079 I thought, well, that's gonna be the biggest thing for a week. 920 00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.840 And now it seems like a distant memory with everything that happened since it's 921 00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:05.760 been a whirlwind. Man. Yeah, I'm looking forward to just again. 922 00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:09.159 I got the DVD from WWE to watch Rustbody at thirty and I watched a 923 00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:12.719 lot of this stuff while I was there, But now they get a chance 924 00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.119 to go back to it in detail and just just enjoy the eventful what it 925 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:20.519 was. H But and you know again, you know the news a warrior 926 00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:24.880 again. God y, I mean, you never ever want to hear about 927 00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:29.320 anybody that, but someone that you know in the business and the fact that 928 00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:34.440 they've just you know, buried the hatchet and come together and everything was gonna 929 00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:37.800 be fine. And for that guy who walks across the parking lot with his 930 00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:42.360 wife and just keeled over and died, just a terrible thing is and and 931 00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:45.480 those two daughters, I mean for him to introduce you know a lot of 932 00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:47.280 people keep their family private, and they like to be private. You're one 933 00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:51.840 of those people. And and then there's some people who are who you know, 934 00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:53.519 like Ultimate Org is like, Hey, I want I'm gonna bring my 935 00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:55.920 daughters out here and my wife and my mom and and I want to tell 936 00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:59.679 them what I think about him. And I just think the fact that we 937 00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:05.840 get that, that Jim Helwig Warrior gets to have people remember him as a 938 01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.519 father and a son and a husband the way that he did, I think 939 01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:14.000 is something that for as tragic and horrible and sad as his dying on Tuesday 940 01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:16.760 was, there's that the the little bit of positive in there is is I 941 01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:21.159 think he got to show people the different side of him than what a lot 942 01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:23.159 of people saw in between his his you know, after his wrestling career, 943 01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:25.480 before his Hall of Fame speech, and like you said, he got to 944 01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:29.719 make amends behind the scenes too. It's you know, it's way too soon, 945 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.679 but I think it's a positive that had happened after and not before this 946 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:37.480 weekend, I'll put it that way, you know. And you know there 947 01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:42.199 was ah he made a menage with with with the Brash and Shannon, the 948 01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:46.400 deal with the higher ups w W, and I I don't think that, 949 01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:50.320 you know, he made amends with all the boys, because I'm sure some 950 01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:53.880 of the guys are still had an extra grind against him. Nonetheless, when 951 01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:58.159 one of the boys goes down, when when anybody goes down, it's not 952 01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:01.199 good. You know, I really talk about guy really was judged by his 953 01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:05.480 family. Let's take two more quick calls and then we'll sign off on the 954 01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:07.400 live show and give the VD members a little something extra with a couple of 955 01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:12.639 topics including Daniel Bryant and see him punk with Steve Austin after the music. 956 01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.960 But let's go to Missouri first, Ara Goo three one four, Please state 957 01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:20.440 your name and where you're coming from, Tyl. I'm gonna give his name. 958 01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:23.320 Hey, Damien, go real quick because we've got a BA connection with 959 01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:31.840 you. Just I just want to say, is an honor to be talking 960 01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:36.719 to one of my favorite restlers of all times? So cold? Oh well, 961 01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:42.519 yeah, I got with that being said. Do you think now, 962 01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:46.280 of course you everybody knows the crowd shit skew you had with instance man, 963 01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:52.719 and I believe that the stuff going on with Daniel Bryan and the authority today 964 01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:55.639 is almost like I wouldn't say it cart and copy play is pretty much influenced 965 01:01:55.760 --> 01:02:00.639 by the stuff you did with vin Do you think that the will has one 966 01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:06.039 dry with having the Heal Authority figure going to get the baby Face rent group. 967 01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:10.800 I just want to get your thought from the think, Damen well Man. 968 01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:15.320 I mean, and it's almost like watching the movie because it's really it's 969 01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:19.000 hard to have an original movie anymore because they all borrow from the one before 970 01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:22.519 it, And so same with the with the game of pro wrestling. You 971 01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:25.800 know a lot of the storylines that were just rehashed with different people playing those 972 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:30.559 parts. So I you know, I don't know if the well has run 973 01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:36.039 dry. It's it's just all in the creativity and uh, you know how 974 01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:40.960 it's executed on TV, and you know you have I don't know, I 975 01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:45.039 think in a situation like that, if that's what they're doing, uh, 976 01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:47.719 loosen up the script a little bit so there can be that spontaneity where that 977 01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:52.400 seemingly anything can happen, and it will. It can be it will stay 978 01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:57.840 fresh and will stay effective as a storyline. And there's there's never been a 979 01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:00.840 more perfect dynamic than you and Vincent. Man. It wasn't like, well, 980 01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:02.320 that's a good idea, but let's improve upon it. There wasn't room 981 01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:05.599 for improvement. You know, you had Vince mc mann as an announcer, 982 01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:08.440 a babyface, you know, conscious of the promotion, you know, cheerleader 983 01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:13.840 type guy for you know, fifteen twenty thirty years on television. However long, 984 01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:16.320 it wasn't at the point that which he turned heel and then your character, 985 01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:21.599 you know, the working man against the arrogant boss. It just it's 986 01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:24.039 it's one of those things where you're just doomed to fail trying to copy it. 987 01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:27.920 And that's that's part of the I think the reason it's it's one of 988 01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:30.960 those angles we maybe have seen enough at least for a while until that next 989 01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:34.239 good, you know, perfect circumstance comes around. Although Stephanie and Hunter have 990 01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:38.880 had their moments of being really effective in that kind of arrogant, aristocratic you 991 01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:43.000 know, look down there, look down at the fans type characters. I 992 01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:45.719 mean, they play those roles well and certainly Daniel Bryan is fantastic in his 993 01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:49.000 role. So it's kind of fun. Aspects of it are fun, but 994 01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:52.480 it is part of me just thinks it was never done before you and Vince 995 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:54.719 Steve, So why does it have to be done every year afterwards. Well, 996 01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:59.039 I'll tell you and all the people you know, Triple Edged Death and 997 01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:01.320 Daniel Bryan all they're all doing a tremendous job. And it's been fun to 998 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:04.559 watch some of the stuff that I've seen. But when when you're talking about, 999 01:04:04.760 --> 01:04:08.920 you know, Austin versus McMahon, you're talking about two of the hottest 1000 01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:15.559 characters or hottest uh personalities of all time at rest at the peak of professional 1001 01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:18.519 wrestling, and so the states had never been higher, and the business had 1002 01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:24.599 never been hotter, and so they're they're doing a tremendous job telling the story 1003 01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:28.719 they're telling right now. It's just hard. It's hard to compete with what 1004 01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:32.199 we did because it was so damn real, and it was so unscripted, 1005 01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:36.400 and it was spontaneous, and half the time we knew where we were going, 1006 01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:40.119 we didn't know how we were going to get there, and then unfolded 1007 01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:44.480 on television and you damn sure believed every single bit you saw because that's how 1008 01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.000 it was portrayed, and and so that that that might have give us the 1009 01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:51.320 edge, But make no mistake about it, it's always an intriguing storyline and 1010 01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:55.920 I just look look forward to see them now with how they proceed from here 1011 01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:58.840 with their storyline. Let's go to our list Call of the day. This 1012 01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:02.440 will be uh nine seven eight Matthachusetts. Let us know your name and what's 1013 01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:05.840 did you're calling from. Hi's Kevin from Boston. Hey, Kevin, thanks 1014 01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:09.360 for colling. What have you got for stone Colding? Hi, Steve, 1015 01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:12.480 I just want to see if you had a chance to get the WE network 1016 01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:16.360 and what you think of it. Yeah, man, I have not ordered 1017 01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:21.039 the WW network yet. I was just talking to Kevin Dunn yesterday because he's 1018 01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:25.320 produced his Money Night row and I was in the truck washing with him and 1019 01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:29.000 I just sent him a text message, case you send me a DVD of 1020 01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:32.039 the show so I can break down the show from my podcast. And he 1021 01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:35.000 goes. First of all, he said yes, and I have the DVD 1022 01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:38.639 sitting right in front of me. And then he says, have you tried 1023 01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:42.880 out for WW network yet? When you do, let me know. I 1024 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:46.000 haven't tried it out. But it's nine ninety nine a month. That's one 1025 01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:48.960 hundred and twenty bucks a year. That's the hell of a deal. It 1026 01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:53.679 includes all of the major pay per views, all twelve of them. Including 1027 01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:58.159 WrestleMania. I don't have any experience with it. I've yet to try it. 1028 01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:01.960 I'm really bad about spending my mon and that's why the Steve Bollson shows 1029 01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:06.159 a great you downloaded for free. I'm not on the computer too much time, 1030 01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:10.159 so i don't know that i'd be able to get my money's worth out 1031 01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:13.559 of it, and god, thang, I'm just a cheap master. I 1032 01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:16.119 guess well, you can get an Apple TV for about ninety nine bucks and 1033 01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:19.400 hook it up to your TV and watch it on your TV, so we'll, 1034 01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:21.400 well, you're right about that, But I mean, I just know, 1035 01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:25.840 you know, I probably should because I like watching a lot of the 1036 01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:30.400 matches from back in the day. Way next time I come on show, 1037 01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:32.519 if I've done the ww network yet, I'll do my full review of it 1038 01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:36.280 on your show. Sounds good and world Class. They've got some episodes of 1039 01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:40.280 world Class from early Ladies on there, and that's some of my favorite stuff. 1040 01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:42.599 I hit refreshing look for the new ones that they put up, because 1041 01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:45.960 there's some shows that pre date the show airing and syndication in my area, 1042 01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:48.800 so it's cool to see that stuff. All right, Kevin appreciate the call. 1043 01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:51.800 Any follow up for Steve is that it? Oh yeah, just a 1044 01:06:51.800 --> 01:06:56.519 one quick question to see what movie should I watch first? The package of 1045 01:06:56.679 --> 01:07:02.599 damage Damage all right, cool quick plug for PW Torch dot com dot com. 1046 01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:05.280 Steve, We're gonna play the music, come back on the other side 1047 01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:09.239 and hit you up with a couple of rapid fire topics before you right off 1048 01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:12.880 into the sunset bore. Thank you very much. I'm hoky. People can 1049 01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.440 follow you on Twitter too. We can get you a couple of Twitter followers. 1050 01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:17.559 You have like three billion. Hey, you can check me out on 1051 01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:24.519 Twitter at Steve Aston BSR. The BSR stands for Broken Scow Ranch. Somebody 1052 01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:29.199 was already had Steve Austen, So I am Steve Austen BSR. And that's 1053 01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.280 the bottom line because I said so, thanks Steve. I really appreciate you 1054 01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:34.280 taking time on I know a super busy week for you to be on the 1055 01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:39.559 show again today. Yep, you got it absolutely on the other side of 1056 01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:42.679 the music, a couple of quick topics on the VT After show with Stone 1057 01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:56.719 Cold Steve Austin. Longing for some mistalgia or maybe you want to learn some 1058 01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:00.440 wrestling history, don't miss the nineties past asked. Every Friday on the PW 1059 01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:05.280 Torch Daly Cast Feed, Alex and Patrick will transport you thirty years into the 1060 01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:11.199 past by taking you through the Torch issue from that very week, follow news 1061 01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:15.920 from the WWF and WCW and all the happenings from across the wrestling industry in 1062 01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:19.720 real time as The Torch reported it thirty years ago. That's the nineties pass 1063 01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:38.399 cast every Friday on the PW Torch Daily Cast Feed. All right, Steve, 1064 01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:42.800 we're now in the VFP after show portion of the program, and I 1065 01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.119 got a question here from a reader that's one that I wanted to ask, 1066 01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:48.600 which is, do you think Daniel Brian is the guy who will now that 1067 01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:53.520 he's champion, draw, sell out, draw well and sellout shows and draw 1068 01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:56.199 TV ratings. That's from Cody B from Iowa. Well, what are your 1069 01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:59.319 thoughts on Daniel Brian now that he is the unified champion, the second unified 1070 01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:01.520 champion since and you wanted in December. First of all, I'm glad to 1071 01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:05.239 see Daniel Brian is the champion, and I think it's got to be a 1072 01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:11.359 tremendous feeling of pride for himself and everything that has accomplished. You know, 1073 01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:14.439 he's not the biggest guy in the world, he's not the best looking guy 1074 01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:16.920 in the world. He's a hell of a damn worker. He's a unique 1075 01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:23.479 personality and I just hope he carries the belt to the best of his ability. 1076 01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:26.840 And I know without a shadow of a doubt that's what he'll do. 1077 01:09:27.199 --> 01:09:30.319 Now, whether he maintains ratings, whether he draws houses in the arenas, 1078 01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:33.560 that is going to be the Proof's going to be in the pudding, So 1079 01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:38.319 there's no use to even be speculating about that. When the receipts come in, 1080 01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:41.439 that's what we will know. But I'm proud of him and I'm happy 1081 01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:45.479 for him. I know a lot of people look at the crowd reactions that 1082 01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:49.960 Daniel Brian gets and go, that is enough reason to put the machine behind 1083 01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:53.960 him and see how far they can ride him. And then there's other people 1084 01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:56.800 of wide range, people in the industry on the outside, who go, 1085 01:09:57.239 --> 01:09:59.680 you know, look at him. He's yes, he's getting a crowd reaction, 1086 01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:01.880 but it's kind of just because it's fun to chant. Yes, And 1087 01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:05.199 he's a great hand in the ring. He's got great energy, and you 1088 01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:09.239 know, it's the gimmick with replation. Steph is a reflection of all people 1089 01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:12.439 feel about him behind the scenes, which is the crowd reactions are intense, 1090 01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:15.239 but the only people who really will pay to see him are the people in 1091 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:18.399 the buildings, and we need somebody who draws from the mainstream and can represent 1092 01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:20.680 the brand. How do you How do you feel about those two arguments? 1093 01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:25.439 Because I haven't seen in a long time a crowd reaction for Daniel Bryant like 1094 01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:27.239 this. I want to see what they can make out of it. I 1095 01:10:27.239 --> 01:10:30.720 don't want them to in a I don't want there to be a sense of 1096 01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:32.880 we're trying to prove that we were right, that he's not a draw. 1097 01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:35.640 I want the machine behind him to see what he can do because the crowd 1098 01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:41.520 reaction to me is unorthodox and worth exploring. Oh it's just a name, 1099 01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:45.239 this crowd reaction, I'm saying them in a long long time, really don't 1100 01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:47.000 think I've ever see aything like him than that. Yes, chance, but 1101 01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:51.119 everybody pumping their fist like they new. So the fact that he took the 1102 01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:55.840 battle of made them right. The machine needs to get behind him one hundred 1103 01:10:55.840 --> 01:11:00.439 and twenty percent and push him through the move. Yeah, yeah, I'm 1104 01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:04.119 excited. And as a worker, is there anybody that he reminds you of 1105 01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:08.279 as a worker in terms of his style and what he brings to the table 1106 01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:11.119 and what what do you most respect about what he does in the ring as 1107 01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:15.760 a workers offense, his selling uh plane to the crowd, his comebacks like 1108 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:19.399 from a from a great worker's perspective. What do you see that is that 1109 01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:23.760 is really good or great about Dania Bryant. I just like his body of 1110 01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:29.039 work. Sometimes I'll see, you know, uh, shades of Japanese style 1111 01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:32.119 and him shades of uh Steve Regal and him, which are you know too? 1112 01:11:32.199 --> 01:11:36.600 Obviously two tremendous styles. Just a mechanic Uh, pretty much, you 1113 01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:43.239 know, peerless. Everything looks good? H great hall fense Uh No, 1114 01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:47.600 Gaps is a damn good worker. So I give his work an eight plus. 1115 01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:51.560 Wow. Yeah, yeah, very good. Got a lot of email 1116 01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:55.399 questions. I'll just kind of summarize them, and it's my question too, 1117 01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:00.199 were you thinking, because I don't think you had it necessarily like any he 1118 01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:01.680 had a ton of inside information on what went on with CM Punk, Phil 1119 01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:04.960 Brooks and the meeting with insect Man that led him to walking out. Did 1120 01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:09.359 you ever, did you think going into WrestleMania that he might show up at 1121 01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:13.239 WrestleMania And kind of part two to that is, how do you feel about 1122 01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:17.159 the way that he left before his contract expired, now that it looks like 1123 01:12:17.239 --> 01:12:19.800 he probably isn't coming back, It seems like it was going to happen. 1124 01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:25.239 It might have happened already while I'm predicted on my show, Steve Wofson's show, 1125 01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:28.840 that he was going to come back at wrestle Media because I really thought, 1126 01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:31.319 you know, this is just obviously it would just suggesting that part that 1127 01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:38.840 whatever Bill fillings, heart feelings, bad feelings, whatever, would be washed 1128 01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:42.720 away by then and there'd be a conversation, the handshake and maybe some agreements 1129 01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:45.840 made and he'd be back on the roster and back on the guard and at 1130 01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:49.399 WrestleMania thirty. Obviously it didn't happen that way, but you know again i'd 1131 01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:53.199 have to you know, ask c him punk, you know, to his 1132 01:12:53.319 --> 01:12:55.960 face or on the phone, you know, exactly what's going on, What 1133 01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:59.479 are you feeling. I know it was frustrated, you know, around Christmas 1134 01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:02.239 time, and that's all I know. He didn't show up, you know, 1135 01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:08.000 because I left for the reasons that I did, and so he might 1136 01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:13.199 have some of those same feelings, but each each me leaving and him leaving 1137 01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:17.199 are two entirely different things. They're both very specific to what's in my brain 1138 01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:19.600 or what was in my brain, and what's in his brain. Now, 1139 01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:24.720 all I know is when you breach your contract, you don't get your royalty 1140 01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:28.319 money. When you breach your contract, you're pretty well screwed. You can't 1141 01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:30.960 do anything else. They don't have to pay you. So, you know 1142 01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:36.439 the you only have so many bumps, so many years left in your body. 1143 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:42.800 You know this is a twenty by twenty ring when that's what you're really 1144 01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:44.840 good at in life, and that's what he's really good at. And not 1145 01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:46.880 to say he's not good at anything else. I just don't know what kind 1146 01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:50.840 of money he can generate in any other walk of life. Generate as much 1147 01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:55.039 money as you can now make, hay while the sun is still shining, 1148 01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:59.000 then right off into the sunset. You know. That's my take on it. 1149 01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:03.720 But and again I'm not belittling or criticizing Shampunk. It is what it 1150 01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:08.920 is. I just know that when I left the way I did, I 1151 01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:13.399 regretted it and I lost a lot of money. But my biggest regret was 1152 01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:15.600 that was not the right thing to do. That was not the way to 1153 01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:18.800 handle those situation. I should have showed up in Atlanta talk tonishman man face 1154 01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:23.159 to face, come to a better conclusion, and that I walked out. 1155 01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:26.760 Still, I would have faced him face to face and not just left on 1156 01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:30.119 an airplane over a phone call. And that's just speaking for myself. Yeah, 1157 01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:33.880 And I'm glad to clarify that because I thought you were just politically getting 1158 01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:38.079 screwed over with what they wanted to do. And I thought it totally made 1159 01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:43.319 sense for you to use your clout to say this doesn't feel right, this 1160 01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:45.359 feels like there's something else going on here, This is bad for business, 1161 01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:47.920 this is not the right way to do a match with Brock. Let's do 1162 01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:51.039 it right. And so I feel like sometimes when you apologize, I felt 1163 01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:53.479 like, no, no, I want you to stand up for that, 1164 01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:56.680 because I think there was some some ps going on in terms of why they 1165 01:14:56.680 --> 01:14:59.159 were wanting to do that when they wanted to do it. But I really 1166 01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:00.720 respect what you said, which is I should have shown up at the building 1167 01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:04.359 and gone face to face with Vince and been more specific about trying to find 1168 01:15:04.359 --> 01:15:08.439 a middle ground, and that that that I can definitely agree. I can 1169 01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:13.439 definitely see that point of view for sure. Also, they gave me the 1170 01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:15.960 courtesy of letting me know an advance you know, what we were thinking about 1171 01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:19.600 doing in ninety nine point nine percent of the time. It was great. 1172 01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:24.760 I only made a few modifications the one I heard that one. It just 1173 01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:27.600 you know, like I said, Brock's a good friend of mine. Back 1174 01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:30.000 then, we all knew Brock was gonna be a big star. That wasn't 1175 01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:35.199 the way to make him. Atlanta And in an unadvertised match against stone Cold 1176 01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:40.079 Steve Aston and I'm gonna slip him over. That rubbed me the wrong way 1177 01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:44.520 very quickly, and I was running up and down the road making all my 1178 01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:49.039 shots, drawing money white hot, and I thought it was weak of bad 1179 01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:54.720 business and a real crappy decision, and I responded accordingly. Had they not 1180 01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:58.560 given me that advanced call, I would have just showed up because I wouldn't 1181 01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:00.800 have known what was going on, and we would have had that ultimate face 1182 01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:04.039 to face and I'll guarant damn tea and then I wouldn't have done the job. 1183 01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:10.560 But I'd kept my job by the same token. Yeah, yeah, 1184 01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:13.079 two quick ones and we'll wrap up, if that's good with you, mister 1185 01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.199 Tith Hall of Fame. Your reaction, somebody e mailed and wanted to know 1186 01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:19.520 what you thought sitting through that speech. Well, you know, mister t 1187 01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:23.920 I watched thomsonting right there next to O Kogan, watching all that stuff back 1188 01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:26.560 and you know, thirty years ago, and I looked over at the hook. 1189 01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:28.800 I said, man, some of that stuff you guys did back in 1190 01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:31.159 was just badass, and it was just, you know, brought back a 1191 01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:34.600 lot of memories because I remember watching all that stuff, and so you know, 1192 01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:38.680 I'm not the biggest fan of the celebrity wing, but if he's going 1193 01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:41.720 to go in the celebrity wing, he's a damn good member to go in. 1194 01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:45.520 As far as the speech itself goes, Hey, man, you know, 1195 01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:50.479 I know the man respects and loves his mother, and I get that. 1196 01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:55.520 But you know, when I saw him walk up there and those pages 1197 01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:58.159 looked to me about an inch thick, I knew he was in for a 1198 01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:02.479 long ride. And finally, you know, they crashed Canes music and Glenn 1199 01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:06.039 came out there and gave him the hook. So it got a little got 1200 01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:10.239 a little long winded, and I thought that they had kind of went through 1201 01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:14.439 a little rehearsal process where they you know, kind of tightened people's interviews up, 1202 01:17:14.760 --> 01:17:17.960 and then it just turned into a free for all. And I got 1203 01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:20.680 a lot of respect from mister T. I met him at the day of 1204 01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:25.560 the Hall of Fame, I mean Rustlemania, and talked to him. His 1205 01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:28.479 pro bo went a little bit long, as my point, and I have 1206 01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:31.239 no problem with him respecting his mother and loving his mother, because it sounds 1207 01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:35.319 like, by all accounts, she did an incredible job, and so did 1208 01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:41.800 he as a father with what his kids have accomplished. Was was there any 1209 01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:44.359 sense that the next day he was kind of sheepish about how things went, 1210 01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:46.640 or was this kind of that was yesterday? Oh, I didn't notice any, 1211 01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:49.640 no sheepishness at all. That was yesterday, and he was you know, 1212 01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:53.399 that's mister T. You know he's a pretty straight up. Then. 1213 01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:56.920 That's the first time I'd ever met the guy, and was very happy to 1214 01:17:56.920 --> 01:17:59.960 me because I was a big fan of everything that he accomplished, loved watch 1215 01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:03.039 would do what he did in the wrestling business. And yesterday was yesterday. 1216 01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:08.920 Roman Rains and Cesarro. Two guys who seem to be on the fast track. 1217 01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:12.359 Do you have your money on both of them or one of them a 1218 01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:15.079 lot or a little more than the other in terms of one two three years 1219 01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:19.399 down the line being good candidates to be headlining some paper views. I've got 1220 01:18:19.479 --> 01:18:23.560 my money on both guys. Both those guys were big stars. They both 1221 01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:27.760 have an incredible look. I think you know, Roman Range is part of 1222 01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:30.239 that shield. You know, that's a great storyline in and of itself, 1223 01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:33.960 and the storylines, you know, the Vegan news to split him out of 1224 01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:38.680 that one of these days, how they have to cilitate that process will be 1225 01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:41.720 what it is. He's got a great look, he's a damn good worker. 1226 01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:44.239 Seems like he's got a real good head on his shoulder. I'm talked 1227 01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:46.520 him a little bit. I'm putting my money on him. Antonio Cesaro. 1228 01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:53.239 Now did they did they bust him away from zeb Couldran put him with Paul 1229 01:18:53.279 --> 01:18:55.720 Hayman the other day? But yeah, although I don't know where that's going 1230 01:18:55.760 --> 01:18:59.319 because it seemed like they were turning a babyface and then Paul Haman comes out 1231 01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:01.279 to management manage him and Hayman. Earlier in the show, it's getting tons 1232 01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:04.520 of heel heat for bragging about Lesnard beat and takers, So I'm really curious 1233 01:19:04.520 --> 01:19:08.239 where that's going. I assume they have a definite path in mind, but 1234 01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:11.399 I have a hard time believe in Steve they're gonna keep Czarrow with Hayman. 1235 01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:15.159 If the goal is to keep Cesarrow baby face, I'm sorry, keep him 1236 01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:16.840 heal, I'm sorry, keep him face. But I don't know if they 1237 01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:19.000 can turn him heel if he stays with him, and if he keeps doing 1238 01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:23.359 the giant swing because fans pop for it. So I'm really intrigued. I 1239 01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:26.760 have no idea where they're going with it. Well I'm really intrigued too because 1240 01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:30.760 I saw it go down or heard of it. But man, that guy, 1241 01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:35.520 he's an incredible physical specimen. Again, great body, He's mostly just 1242 01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:41.039 an absolutely strong person in the gym. He's a hell of a man worker 1243 01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:43.760 some of those things that need to throw them guys up in there and hit 1244 01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:47.079 them with that flipper. I want to see him find it. I want 1245 01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:53.920 to find out who Antonio Cesarrow it really is. Whereas when I see and 1246 01:19:54.359 --> 01:19:56.720 think Roman Range, I just I don't know a whole lot about it, 1247 01:19:56.800 --> 01:19:59.039 but I kind of get it a little bit more than I do with Antonio 1248 01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:02.399 Cesaro. And to your point, I thought, man, the guy just 1249 01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:05.920 he's got a great body and he's so talented. In the ring, I 1250 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:12.079 saw baby face first, then hell, So maybe the heel thing when the 1251 01:20:12.119 --> 01:20:15.880 Hayman might be a little forced or a little bit rushed, But Paul dangerously 1252 01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:21.520 or Paul Hayman is pure platinum. So either way it turns out, I 1253 01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:27.119 was surprised to see them allegedly go hell or heading down the road hill with 1254 01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:30.560 Antonio czero. But I think the same thing for both guys, six and 1255 01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:34.359 one half does the other. I predict very bright futures for both of these 1256 01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:39.119 young men, and I talked to both of them and they seem like outstanding 1257 01:20:39.159 --> 01:20:43.359 people. That's a big endorsement. Steve, Thank you so much for your 1258 01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:45.840 time. It's just again, I really appreciate you taking time today. No, 1259 01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:47.720 it's such a busy week in a whirl win week for you, so 1260 01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:50.840 it was great talking with you, and I appreciate you taking life calls and 1261 01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:55.600 all those email topics too. Hey man, I appreciate it. Way. 1262 01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:58.159 It's good talking the other night. It's always good to talk to you. 1263 01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:00.600 Let me get on my jet school and everything. I'd love to have you 1264 01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:03.920 back on my podcast. Maybe in a couple of days. I'll just call 1265 01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:06.479 you back and we'll check your schedule see if you can do it. This 1266 01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:11.119 would be great. I'm actually pretty open. I've kind of kept my schedule 1267 01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:14.199 clear after Mania to just relax a little bit, so talking with you would 1268 01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:16.079 be a great way to do that. Okay, man, I appreciate it. 1269 01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:18.199 Thanks for having me on the show, you bet. Thanks Steve, 1270 01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:21.600 all right, Thanks all the VP members too for joining us today, and 1271 01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:25.960 thank you for your support what we do here at VIP. The VIP After 1272 01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:30.079 Show is a is one of the ways we try to thank you for your 1273 01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:33.600 support what we do. And on that note, I will sign off until 1274 01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:55.479 next time. Invite you to email the show with feedback or questions or comments. 1275 01:21:55.520 --> 01:22:00.439 That email address is Wade Keller Podcast at PW toors dot com. That's 1276 01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:03.760 Wadekeller Podcast at PW torch dot com. 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