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Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino,
Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome to

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the show. Three oh three seven
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to take your calls, questions, complaints,

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problems, whatever you have on your
mind. And hello everyone. Mike

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see I got a good crewd on
my YouTube moron starting and uh, Facebook

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flunkies, but YouTube morans are far
outnumbered. And then I mean the Facebook

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flunkies are far far out numbered by
YouTube warrants. We're we're basically getting together

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every day and try to warn you
of problems and questions. I answer questions

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and take complaints and really, as
I say, to make your life a

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little easier. And that's really what
we do each and every day, and

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we love doing it. So all
you have to do is call, and

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when we're on the air, you
can call three oh three, uh six,

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talk three oh three seven one three

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course you can always call twenty four to

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seven three oh three Martino. Now
when you call that, whether we're here

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or not, you can leave a
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three oh three six two seven eight
four six six. So what I'd like

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to do is start out by telling
you we have some guests day. We're

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going to talk a little finance here
and there. And you know, finance,

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to me is really important. I
think the crux of everyone's success is

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how they handle their money. Now
I'm not just talking about investments. I'm

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just talking about handling their money.
I think there are two problems that I

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find with young people that start their
trouble. And if you're a parent,

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grandparent, if you're younger, if
you're having kids, if you yourself are

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just starting out. I'm going to
tell you the two main areas. The

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two first areas that cause trouble for
people. The two first and foremost credit

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cards. Now I'm not the type
that says never use credit cards. They're

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all bad. They're not bad,
they're tools. Credit cards should never be

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used as extra income. Ever.
I know that sounds so obvious, but

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you be shocked at how many people
use a credit card to buy things they

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can't afford, and then they calculate
they calculate the monthly payment, and what

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they start thinking is, well,
I can make that payment. What they

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don't understand is a minimum payment,
We'll have you in debt for twenty years.

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It's ridiculous and you you know,
and it's snowballs. So you should

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never buy something with the idea of
calculating a payment and yeah, I can

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make that monthly payment. Eventually,
what happens is those monthly payments become exorbitant.

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But even if they're not exorbitant,
you're overpaying for everything you buy.

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So credit cards are the number one
killer because they extend credit to everyone in

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the beginning. So if you get
a credit card, you can end up

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in very big trouble. And I
knew a young woman who had six credit

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cards and she would buy whatever or
she wanted. She wasn't making enough money

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to buy that stuff outright, so
she would buy it make minimum payments.

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She was buried, headed for bankruptcy. That can get you in trouble.

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But what's really bad, Well,
first of all, then people ask when

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do you use credit? Credit is
meant as a convenience to buy something,

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and then you can It's first it
was for emergencies. I mean the wise

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person would use it for emergencies.
I mean, obviously, something goes wrong

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and you can't wait to get it
fixed, like your car to get to

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work, or maybe something around your
house, so you use a credit card

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to pay it and then make payments
on that. But you should attempt to

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pay off anything on your credit card
monthly is ideal. If you can't then

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in three months, and at the
extreme six months. You should never make

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a purchase you cannot pay off in
six months, and then you did not

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have any more than two outstanding for
six months. You can have you can

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have one that pays off in three
months and one that pays off in six

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months, but you have to calculate. Never make minimum payments. But credit

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card debts snowballs, and people take
vacations and buy things that they should not

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be doing because they don't have the
income. But they start thinking the credit

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card is like income, and then
they make those feeble payments and it's snowballs.

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That's number one credit cards. Okay, So credit is for convenience number

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well, first for emergencies obviously,
and then yes, convenience. If you

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really want something, you want to
reward yourself, but you've got to be

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able to pay it off in one
to three and at the very outside six

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months. Okay, and you can't
have too many things you're paying off in

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six months. I'm talking about you
don't keep charging now. I know.

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I'm going to tell you something that
that that that is a hard concept.

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Today, we truly have We have
a notion that everyone should have everything they

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desire. We really do. We
don't say it, but we really believe

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that. In fact, there are
lawmakers that attempt to control outcomes of things

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so people can have everything. And
immediate gratification is another concept that has become

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common. Everyone wants things now.
And what we need was that Joe is

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joining us via phone. Good,
I got you. I was going to

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introduce him. Thank you, thank
you, thank you. So people want

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stuff now, and what they do
is they don't look to the future.

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Get it in the future. And
that's another concept that gets people in trouble.

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Okay, So that's credit. That's
credit and the use of credit.

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In fact, the second thing negative
equity in cars. I swear to God,

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if you're listening to me, you
can save your kids, save yourself,

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save everyone trouble. Those two things
kill people. When I talk about

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negative equity, and I'm not going
to get into it right this second,

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but I want to ask Joe Kanno, who's a certified financial planner. He

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gives when he does seminars and stuff. He talks about one of the main

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problems people have is keeping money out
of the dollar they earn. And he

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will hold up a dollar and say, this much is for taxes right off

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the bat, and then this much
you pay to others just to finance things,

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and then this much. He goes
through it. Joe, let's go

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through the dollar scenario. Okay,
how much of that dollar? Now,

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that dollar up to a third of
it goes to taxes right now, right,

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and two thirds goes to finance charges. Now now, hold on,

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just think so finance charges. So
you're saying out of a dollar, are

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you truly meaning people can spend sixty
percent of their paycheck. Yes, the

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average American spends one third on taxes
two thirds in finance charges. Well,

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then that leaves nothing, Joe,
that doesn't make sense. So that leaves

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that leaves one third of a dollar. Well, hold on, you just

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said one third on taxes, yeah, right, and two thirds on financing.

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That's three thirds right, that's all
of it, right, It's about

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they have about a third left to
spend then. So basically, you know,

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if you take a dollar bill,
if don dollar bill goes to pay

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for finance charges, another portion goes
to pay for taxes, and they have

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a very little amount left for themselves, right, Okay, so whatever,

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the percentage doesn't matter, but very
little. And the finance part of it,

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the finance charge part of it,
starts at a very young age.

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They do, you know a lot
of you know in fact that children,

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you know, teenagers are getting credit
card offers from banks and credit card companies

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at the age of sixteen or seventeen. I used to give them for Jordan

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in my milks. So they start
on that finance problem right away where they

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are paying others to finance things.
Now for short term convenience or emergency emergencies.

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There's nothing wrong with that at all. What really he gets to be

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the problem is when you have several
things washers, dryers, or when you're

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younger, whatever, vacations, clothing, purses, jewelry, This gets to

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be a big problem and it will
totally devastate you. Hold on a second,

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we have a call coming up.
We have Joe, we have your

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calls. But listen, people,
I'm serious. Do you realize we don't

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have a problem with what people are
earning. Oh, there's definitely a disparity

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between the highest wagers and the lowest. Yes, there is disparity. Is

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the nature of the economy. Nothing
will ever be equal, ever ever.

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Okay, that doesn't mean it's hateful, That doesn't mean it's racist. It's

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different. What you contribute is different
than what someone else contributes, and society

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puts a value on it. There's
nothing wrong within equality when it comes to

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who makes what for what. They're
not all the same, they're not all

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equivalent. That's not necessarily bad.
People go to the level they can do.

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Now, if all you can do
is if all you can do,

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let's say, is the fast food
industry, if that truly is the maximum

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you can do and you don't have
the capacity to do anything else, that

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doesn't mean that you must elevate that
job to something that has way more cultural

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impact and make it equal. You
can't. And that's what we have to

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get. We got to get used
to the concept that one equality in respect

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and the way the laws applied and
opportunity should be equal, but outcomes will

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never be equal. Your station in
life will be what you do with it.

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It will never be equal to all. Ever, what we can't do

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is try to spend our way out
of it with credit cards or try to

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we just ruin ourselves. So let's
talk about really and truly building wealth,

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not BS wealth. And then the
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and I'm going to give her more
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net. The nete welcome to the show.

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What's going on with you? And
welcome to anyone else who wants to

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what's going on in net? Interested
in your opinion about home warran Chy.

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These companies are plentiful out there now. And I am I am currently with

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and have been with since the eighties
of having a maintenance plan on my appliances

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and many things in the house.
And things have changed and the company is

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kind of modeling themselves after all of
these newer companies that have cropped up where

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you pay a deductible for each visit
and so on and so on. So

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I was looking into another company,
and I was looking at Choice home Warranty

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and wondered if you knew anything about
that company, and if not, if

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you might be able to look into
that company and how they perform. May

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I ask something, why do you
have a warranty? Good question? Well,

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because it has. It has over
the years served me well. It

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takes care of many many things.
I mean the current plan that I have,

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I could have up to forty items
on this plan and there was no

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charge for any visit, no matter
how many times they came out throughout the

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year. If they couldn't fix it, they replaced it. Okay, here's

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what I've now. Now, what
kind do you have right now that does

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that? It's with serious okay and
serious changing. I mean they're changing.

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Yeah. No, no, you're
never going to get a plan like that.

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Now, here's what I truly want
to ask. What were you paying

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by the month? I don't know
by the month, by the year.

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It had risen over the years,
because, like I said, we've had

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this. If you had to put
in if you had to imagine in an

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imaginary bucket, put every dime that
you paid for that warranty in that bucket

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and then put every dime that you
got out of it, would you be

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ahead? You know, I never
really took pen and pape. No one

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does, because you would not be
ahead. I'm just gonna tell you you

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just won't be. But but but
hold on. What you're doing, though,

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is you're doing what's called and and
by the way, we're assuming they're

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going to take care of things.
So by a let's just assume they're gonna

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take care of everything that they should
take care of. They don't, but

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let's assume they do. You will
still, here's what you're doing. You

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are getting a level monthly payment for
peace right rather than trying to dish out

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two grand at once. Okay,
here's the problem. You asked me what

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I think of warranties. If truly
warranties were warranties, I would like them.

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If they would say to you,
all right, Nnette, we're gonna

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come over and inspect your home,
and you're gonna pay for what we're gonna

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cover. Okay. So what they
do is say, okay, we're gonna

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cover this, this, this,
this, and this, and they inspected

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it and they cover it. Peer
I would love it, but they don't

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do that. Here's what they say, how many systems do you have?

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What do you have? What do
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you mentioned forty items. So let's
just take realistically twenty five items. Let's

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say in your home you have a
washer, dryer, water here. Okay,

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say they say the Nette, we're
going to cover you for twenty five

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items, and those twenty five items
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of month. Okay, So for
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and I'm going to give ridiculous numbers
that aren't real. But just just to

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give an example, you're going to
pay twenty five dollars a month for twenty

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five items, okay, and you're
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that, let's say for two years, and when you have a dishwasher problem.

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By the way, I'm giving you
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have happened. So in two years, your dishwasher, you have a problem

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with it, and they go out
and say the nette, we're not covering

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that. That was a pre existing
condition. And you say what you say,

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yeah, that thing must have been
like that two years ago because it

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was too long. They call it
a pre existing condition. And your dishwasher,

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let's say, is ten years old. Of course, there's a lot

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of pre existing conditions. So they
say, we're not covering it. Now

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do they go back in time and
say, but you've been paying twenty five

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dollars for twenty five items, which
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we were never covering that to begin
with. Therefore, we're going to rebate

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to you what you were paying on
this dishwasher. No they don't, no,

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no, no, they don't.
In fact, they keep charging you

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twenty five dollars. And let's see, another year goes by and another problem

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happens and they say, oh,
we're not going to cover that because it's

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normal wear and tear. And you
go, oh, now do they go

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back and adjust your premium? No? No, no they don't. And

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I'm going to tell you there are
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which how the hell do you know? Normal wear and tear and customer

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abuse and lack of maintenance. Now, I want you to think of those

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things, because almost everything that goes
wrong will be previous. It'll be normal

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wear and tear, it'll be owner
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maintance, almost everything. So what
are they covering? Manufacturing defects? Now?

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I want to tell you something.
How often do you have manufacturing defects?

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Now? Here's the deal. Here's
what I really or catastrophic failure.

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Okay, they'll cover that. Now
do they pay off? Of course they

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do from time to time they pay
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this. They extract from you a
premium based on what they tell you they

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will cover, but you don't know
what they're going to cover until it goes

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wrong. You don't know. So
you're paying for something. Here's what home

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warranties companies say. Here's what they
say, and they hate when I bring

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this up, but you read their
contract. Here's what they say. You're

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going to pass x amount of dollars
based on this many items, but we're

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going to let you know what we
cover when those items go bad. So

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if they went and inspected a home
and then said, okay, here's what

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we're covering, like a real insurance
company or a real service company, but

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they don't. They blindly cover everything
and then look for exclusions later. Now,

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some people happen to hit it right
and get something that pays off,

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but most of the time they never
pay off. They may do something here

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and there. But I assure you, if you put into a bucket the

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money that they supposedly are going to
cover you, and then you take the

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other how much you took out of
the bucket, you're going to be behind.

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And people are going to say,
well, of course, that's because

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they have to make a profit,
that's right. So do they have your

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best interests? No, they do
not. They're not a home warranty.

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Now, Now people say, well, Tom, I like wine. Okay.

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Most people that say they like their
has never had a problem or they

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had something replaced, so they think
it's wonderful, But they're going to come

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across something major when they won't replace
it. And by the way, when

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you say replacement, there's an actual
cash value max on that that you're going

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to find in almost every policy.
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So what do I recommend? This
is the one time you would be doe

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head absolutely positively dollars ahead if you
took a credit card and put it aside

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for home emergency. That's it,
home emergency, a credit card. Now

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the monthly payment that you are paying
for that, put in a savings account,

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just put it somewhere, put it
in a CD, put it anywhere,

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and then when something goes wrong that
you can't afford, you put it

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on that credit card. And then
you pay as much down on that credit

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card as you can with the money
you've saved, and then you make the

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rest of the payments and pay it
off. Then when you're done paying that

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off, it's done. It's done. And then you don't have a warranty

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payment every single month, no matter
what. So do I believe in home

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warranties? No, not the way
they're currently written, they're the worst deal

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you can buy. With a credit
card and a savings account, you will

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be much better off, way better
off. Even the interest you pay on

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a credit card paying off a home
emergency is less money than paying for twenty

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years of premiums. You'll see if
you put the money, if you put

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the if you put down on paper, you will see it. So no,

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I would not buy one. In
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If you can find one that will
inspect your house and guarantee coverage on everything

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that they cover, then I pay
the premium. Gladly we have more coming

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up. I'm Tom Martino. Go
with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel

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Roofing dot com. You don't pay
a cent until you're content. Time for

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paying too much your coverage at dozens
of insurance companies find out now three oh

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three seven seven to one help.
You'll think you're his only customer when you

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choose Frank durand the real estate Man
dot com to list your home with Remax

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Alliance three oh three nine two zero
sixteen twenty two. I'm Tom Martino.

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Welcome to the show. Three oh
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They'll compare twenty six companies. Tell
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need, and they'll be honest with
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it, they can't beat it.
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So the average premium on a home
warranty, well, there's no average.

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There's a range from thirty five dollars
to ninety dollars, honest to god.

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Now most of them fall within forty
to seventy dollars, and the forty

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you get not much. But they're
like major systems, supposedly. Here's the

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thing. Whether it comes to waterline
coverage, sewer line coverage, home warranties,

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they all suck. I truly recommend
a credit card, and I truly

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recommend you stash money away. If
you're gonna make the payment on the premium,

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just stash it away. You will
be mile and miles ahead. That's

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just life. And even if you
had to finance a furnace with a separate

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loan. A lot of these companies
Plumbline fix at twenty four to seven eight

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eight eight, Heating, dot Com
Brothers. All of these major companies on

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my referral list have financing and your
miles ahead. Some of them be eble

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to have twelve months same as cash
your miles ahead. Doing that, then

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having a home warranty. Home warranties
suck. And I defy anyone, and

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I promise you, I'll give you
your say. Anyone listening anyone, you,

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especially if you sell these things,
let me know. I want you

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to tell me because I know what
your exclusions are. I know what your

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contracts say. You will never you
know, normal wear and tear, for

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God's sakes, that's what breaks down. Yeah, what what is this pre

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existing condition? Crap? Threeh three
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one three A two five five.
Now we are talking about your life,

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liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
And I have some news here that I've

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I've gotten together. Okay, right
now, people are complaining, listen to

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this. I never thought of this, but they claim bosses claim. This

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is a research project taken on by
one of these big job sites and the

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Wall Street Journal. Employers are complaining
that employees are now afraid to talk on

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the phone. Younger employees. I'm
you know, forget all gen and stuff

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whatever. Younger employees. Let's just
call it what it is. Employees in

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their twenties, thirties, and early
forties, but mostly twenties and thirties either

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don't know how or are afraid to
talk on the phone. Why because they're

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the texting generations. They text,
they do shortcuts and texting, and are

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losing communication skills, especially when it
comes to phone work, and they're finding

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not only do they not like talking
on the phone, they don't know how

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to communicate and to get people to
do phone sales is almost impossible now.

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So guess what they're Guess what they're
what they're adding. They're adding artificial intelligence.

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Artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence is like
the new thing. Do you think

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you can tell if you're talking to
a robot? Do you think you can

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tell? Not? What you think? Now? I had some Did I

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ever play these? I actually have
honest to God live samples not love.

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Yeah, yeah, they're recorded live
and they are examples of phone work AI.

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I actually I swear to you I
did it. I'm gonna try.

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I'm looking for one right now.
I actually have one. Let me see,

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here's one now, this is for
sure. Now, this is a

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solar company in Florida that was using
an AI bot. Listen, Hi,

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Judy, it's Amber. How have
you been. Yeah, I'm just getting

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back to you in regards to the
electric meter that was installed at five hundred

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and twelve Langford Lane. I've been
a photo of your home to make sure

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we're looking at the right place.
Do I have the right house? I

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don't know. Oh, I'm driving
right now and I can't divert my attention

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to my phone. No worries,
I understand when you have a moment.

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Could you take a look at the
photo and let me know if it's the

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right house? Now? Hold on, do you hear what's going on here?

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Do you find that remarkable how they
respond to the variables? This is

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an honest to god real call.
That's a robot you're listening to. I

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think the lady in the car is
a robot. Listen, Well, not

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while I'm driving. We'll have to
do this call another time. Can you

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call me back tomorrow. I totally
get it. Unfortunately, I have a

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lot of people to speak with and
won't be able to call back. However,

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if you have some time over the
next couple of days, I can

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have an expert speak with you.
I have availability tomorrow at four pm and

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five pm Central time. Which one
works better for you? Make it four

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pm? Do you hear this?
And one ession in regard to is it

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to solar panels? So a couple
of years back, everyone's electric meter in

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New Boston was upgraded from analog to
digital in preparation for the net metering program.

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This is the reason for my call, which is being recorded for quality

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assurance. With this program, there
is a possibility we will be able to

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help you reduce your electric bill by
up to forty Has anybody come by to

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talk to you about this upgrade yet? Yes? If the gen regard to

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sower panels, then I vouted not
to do it. So if that's what

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it is, I'm not going with. I understand your concern, but trust

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me, our team is really good
at what we do. We do a

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free energy evaluation for everyone with the
new meters, and whether you want to

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save money or not, we just
want to be able to give you the

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information to help. The mornings or
afternoons usually work better for us. I

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think she goes right to the appointment
after gotcha, we are super busy.

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But what day in the next day
or so works best for you? It

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would have to be tomorrow. I'm
busy the rest of the week. Okay,

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let me check. Now, listen, it's uncanny, tom there's no

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question, no no, I mean, can you imagine the intelligence it takes.

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I mean that the programming. But
this bot goes on and then they

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have a mail that does it as
well. This bot goes on, I

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swear to you, and probably is
successful eighty five percent of the time.

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Now that's an incredible appointment setting rate. Now I want to tell you.

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I'm not going to tell you the
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someone personally who's using it here in
town, and no one suspects it's a

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bot. No one, No one
I saw him. You know what,

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I think we ought to get a
bunch of people to sign a petition to

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Don'tier airlines use AI. Since you
can't talk to the real person at least,

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maybe that would help, right right
anyway? Three oh three seven one

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three talks seven one three eight two
five five. You know that's good idea.

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We should Anyway, we got more
coming up on the Troubleshooter Show.

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Go with a sure thing Denver's best
roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't

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pay a cent until you're content.
Wait time for an insurance checkup free,

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no obligation. In comparison, call
Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at

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dozens of insurance companies find out now
three oh three seven seven to one help.

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You'll think you're his only customer when
you choose Frank durand the real estate

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Man dot com to list your home
with Remax Alliance. Three oh three nine

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two zero sixteen twenty two. Yes, I'm Martino, you're Troubleshooter three oh

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three seven to one three talk seven
one three eight two five five. Okay,

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So what's going on in your life
and how can we help you?

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That's what we ask every day.
Three oh three seven one three talk seven

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one three eight two five five.
Now I don't have time to take probably

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calls right now because we're toward the
end of the hour, but I will

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be ready for your calls anytime you
have them. And uh, you can

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also call three Zho three Martino and
leave a message and we will get back

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to you. But there is something
very troubling going on that I warned you

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people about, and it's happening still. I don't know what the hell's being

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done. In fact, I think
we should probably try to get someone Kachina,

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and you know, Deputy Doc might
be able to do that while he's

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there. We should try to get
someone from the Consumer Finance Protection Bereau on

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one of their PR people. This
thing about bank fraud is going on all

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over the country. It's too mind
boggling. They're closing people's accounts for so

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called suspicious activity and then you don't
get access to your money and they say

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we're investigating. We have people losing
thousands and thousands of dollars all over and

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some of the biggest offenders Wells,
Fargo, USAA, major banks just taking

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your money and saying it was because
of fraud. We got more on that

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three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Yeah, ripped up new need advice.

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Who you don't have? Come running
sustas as we can. Shooter's gonna

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help coming Man Dix is the Troubleshooter
Show. Now Tom Martino, Hi,

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Tom Martino, your trouble Shooter three
oh three seven one three talk three all

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three seven one three eight two five
five, Welcome to the show. We

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got a lot going on here.
And uh I have a Joe Cano with

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us from uh my Moneymway dot com, a certified financial planner, and we

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were talking about in the first hour
some of the things that cause financial ruin.

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Credit cards are the first thing to
go wrong with young people. Credit

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cards, credit card deck. Now
that's not to say I'm not going to

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go over the whole thing again.
It's not to say you shouldn't use credit

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00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:16.440
cards, but you should use them
wisely. They're not meant to be extra

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00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:21.480
income. They're meant for emergencies or
convenience, and when it's for convenience,

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you want to get something and then
pay, you should limit that to something

434
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you can pay in thirty days to
sixty and on the very outside six months

435
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.199
for major purchases. Again, I
also believe you should have a credit card

436
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:38.320
for homer emergencies instead of home warranties. Home warranties suck. They absolutely positively

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00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:43.679
suck. There is just no other
way to put it. I can think

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00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.679
of no home warranty worth the paper
it's written on. Now. The second

439
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:53.880
way people get in trouble is with
cars. It's the number two financial ruination

440
00:37:54.119 --> 00:38:04.280
tool in the devil's toolbox. Now, I'm saying that what people do is

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00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:08.159
they make the wrong purchase for too
much money about ninety percent of the time.

442
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.840
Now, if they work their ass
off and just pay it off,

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they might get out of it.
The big problem is when people buy a

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car, whether new or used,
and do not commit to keeping it or

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destroy it, don't take care of
it, don't maintain it. For whatever

446
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:34.119
reason, they have to get rid
of it and they're underwater. The negative

447
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:38.119
equity in that car when you owe
more than it is worth, will never

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00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:46.440
go away unless you simply work and
pay it off. You cannot. Ever,

449
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:51.920
you should never get rid of a
car with negative equity. Now the

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00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.239
car blows up and is no good. That means you made a stupid purchase

451
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to begin with. But a negative
equity. Okay, So let's say you're

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upside down six thousand dollars. When
you buy another car. That six thousand

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dollars goes on that car. That's
going to multiply your negative equity in that

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car. Now, if you're stupid, and if you truly buy something that

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that that got you in trouble,
the way to get out of it.

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One of the ways would be to
get a load to no interest loan on

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a special incentive from a manufacturer,
put the negative equity on a new car,

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and then work like hell to keep
that car in perfect condition and pay

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it off. Do not buy another
car or trade that car until it is

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paid off. That's one of the
few times you can really get ahead of

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negative equity. But the best thing
is not to have the negative equity to

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begin with. Negative equity will kill
you, and it just keeps growing.

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I give an example of a kid
I knew who bought a car. He

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had to have a muscle car.
He paid too much, ran the crap

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out of it, traded it because
he did something to the engine. Had

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eight thousand dollars in negative equity in
his next car. That car turned out

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to be four thousand. He had
twelve thousand going forward. So he had

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to buy a piece of crap so
we could afford the payments to put that

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twelve thousand on it. So he
bought a piece of crap. So now

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00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:49.719
he had twelve and a piece of
crap. Six He had an eighteen thousand

471
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dollars loan on a piece of crap
that would not last the time he owed

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the money, and he had to
declare bankruptcy from a car, credit card

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and cars. So what do I
recommend you do? I recommend the wise

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use of credit. As I said, and I'm going to give you two

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words that I swear to you are
going to send shock waves. Shock waves.

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But it's something that we need to
know, we need to know.

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00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:28.039
It's something that we must come to
grips with as young people. I'm saying

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as young people. I'm not young, but something that I came to grips

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with and it made me rich Yep, at a very young age. Do

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you know why I came to grips
with something? And it's something that you

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00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:45.679
need to come to grips with,
and it's going to scare the living hell

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00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:49.000
out of you. Does anyone want
to take a stab at what I'm going

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00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:52.280
to say? Because it will,
I swear to you, it will scare

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you. And here's what it is. Ready, you must sometimes times do

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00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:19.519
without? No, no, no, no never. Yep, you have

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to sometimes do without. Do you
know that is actually something that you should

487
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:35.239
consider doing without? How does that
sound? Do you think anyone can do

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00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:43.519
that? Joe Cannon My Money,
Myway dot com. Joe, we talked

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about much of the dollar for tax
much of the dollar for financing, because

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00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:55.719
we've done stupid things and we've purchased
things we shouldn't be purchased, or we

491
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finance things we can't afford, and
we're up side down with financing and taxes,

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00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:07.159
hardly have any for ourselves. So
what's your recommendation? Come on,

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you're a certified financial planner. If
you were instructing a young person, what

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would you tell them? Yeah?
Tom, you know, we actually we

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got the numbers, We got the
percentages, for the dollar bill that you

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00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:23.679
and I were talking about earlier,
actually thirty six percent of each dollar goes

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00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:30.760
to pay taxes. Thirty four point
five percent of that dollar bill goes to

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00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:37.760
banks for finance charges. So people
today are left with only one third of

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00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:42.840
a dollar. And you know what
most people do. They put this money

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00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.840
at risk, the one third of
the dollar that they have. Now,

501
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.679
by the way, when you're talking
about taxes, that's not to say everyone's

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in that tax bracket, but what
you're talking about with taxes are all kinds

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00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:58.239
of taxes. That is, okay, gotcha entertain human tax and all that.

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00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.880
Right, So one third of that
dollar bill that is left actually people

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00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:07.039
put the money at risk and put
it in the stock market, so when

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00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.400
the market goes down, they have
nothing. And this is exactly what I've

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00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:15.960
been talking to people about. And
okay, on your point, on your

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00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.320
point, Tom regarding what to do, you know is to get out of

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00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:25.400
debt. And we have a program
helped become the banker that you can actually.

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00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:28.519
Now this is just for young people. You know. We talk a

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lot about taking money you've accumulated through
your life in a retirement plan and rolling

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it over to a guaranteed product for
income. But now let's talk about young

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people. I want you to tell
me what Jordan did your son? Yeah,

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Jordan, actually you know when it
was sixteen years you know, I

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bet him up. I become the
banker life insurance policy. I overfunded that

516
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:55.400
policy, being that I paid more
than the premium into the policy. It

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00:44:55.480 --> 00:45:04.239
builds tax free cash value. And
when he was sixteen years old, we

518
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:09.760
were able to take a policy loan
against the policy bake cash for that car.

519
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:15.360
It was the nineteen seventy nine Grand
Cherchu Larredo, okay, and he

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00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.920
got a job a subway and he
began making money and I told him,

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00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:23.840
Jordan, you're going to have to
pay back the policy loan, just like

522
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you would at the first Bank of
Littleton, which was back at that point.

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But he bought himself a car,
right, Yeah, So in three

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00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:37.519
years that car was paid off.
He had the money and instead of paying

525
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:43.239
the interest, instead of paying the
interest to a bank, the interest went

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00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:51.320
into his account at the at the
insurance and grew tax free exactly. And

527
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:55.400
he did the same thing with a
condo that he bought in Dringwood Village like

528
00:45:55.639 --> 00:46:01.440
fifteen years ago. He's renting that
out now and he's doing the same thing

529
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:07.800
with the swimming and here in Parker
that he did about five years ago.

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00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:12.800
So it is a tool for young
people that want to be totally out of

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00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:17.400
debt. We can actually show people
how to get out of debt tom and

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00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:23.559
nine years or less by using the
principle of becoming their own bankers. See,

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00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:27.920
banks make a lot of money.
They make now. By the way,

534
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.159
if people think, well, I'll
just have a savings account, you

535
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:35.159
know, there's nothing wrong with a
savings account, but this other way as

536
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:39.880
well. A few bucks a month
overfunding a life insurance policy. You have

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00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:44.800
life insurance, but that's not the
reason you do this, younger. You

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00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:51.039
do this mainly for the tax deferred
growth. Yeah the text deferred growth.

539
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:52.559
And you know, having a savings
account is okay, like you said,

540
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:57.480
but it's not the same. You
See, when you borrow money from a

541
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:01.199
life insurance policy, you don't borrow
from your own money. You don't borrow

542
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:06.440
it from your cash value of the
policy. You're borrowing the money from the

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00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:12.039
life insurance company. So that means
that your cash value stays the same,

544
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:16.880
right, And then they charge you
an interest rate, a very small rate

545
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:22.599
and then you charge yourself more than
that on purpose, right, that is

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00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:29.320
right, that's what we call overfunding
the policy. And so it's not the

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00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:32.960
same as a savings account. It's
better than a savings account. No,

548
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.559
I understand that because for sure,
because when you need cash you can take

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00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:42.760
it out as a loan and then
pay it back to yourself instead of becoming

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00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:46.920
beholding to a credit card company or
a bank, You're just doing it for

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00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:52.519
yourself. It's such a wonderful tool. It is. So what happens if

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00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.000
you miss a payment? You're the
banker. You don't know what's make it

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00:47:55.079 --> 00:48:00.320
up later? You can't. And
also I want to say this, like

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for my son coming up on eighteen. So and I know I'm an old

555
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.320
fart for an eighteen year old,
but here's what I want to ask you.

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00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:12.960
Joe, the cost of insurance is
cheap. Oh it is. The

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00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:16.880
younger you are, the better.
So this is a perfect time for somebody.

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00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:22.400
What would you suggest for what would
you suggest if I'm getting my first

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policy for my son, because I
want to mimic what Jason did, oh,

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which is me what your son did? And Jordan, yeah, George,

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of course, of course. So
what I meant was what amount what

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face value to put on a policy
for a young person? Yeah, you

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00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:44.480
don't do a face value in those
on the beginning, I mean a death

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00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:46.800
benefit. What kind of death benefit
is what I meant, not even a

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00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:50.519
death benefit. What you're going to
be concerned about is the money that you

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00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:54.239
want to put into the policy.
Oh, you should be asking what premium

567
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:58.840
do I want to put in?
So you know, it's up to you.

568
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:02.280
But the more premium that you put
into the ball c the faster that

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00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:07.440
the cash value will build and the
sooner that your son will be able to

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tell. Yeah, but obviously here's
what I mean, Joe. If here's

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what I mean by that the premium, Yes, but the life would be

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too. For example, if you
want to put two hundred miles a month

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away, right, but then you
had a high death death benefit, then

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00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.000
it would be less cash value than
if you had a lower death That is

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00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:30.280
right. That is right, tom. So we become the banker's strategy.

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00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:37.480
We tried to minimize the death benefit. So you you start with how much

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do you want to save? Basically
that is right, and then we'll figure

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00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:47.519
the rest of it out. Yeah, okay, we'll think okay, all

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00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:51.119
right, thank you very much.
That's Joe Canno. We got more coming

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up. I want you to give
me a call if you have any questions

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for him or for me, or
any problems, questions and complaints of course

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of any kind. Three zho three
seven to one three eight two five five.

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Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three
O three seven one three talk three

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oh three seven one three eight two
five five. Welcome to the show.

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Okay, let's uh talk about your
problems, questions and complaints. And we

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00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:37.880
have a financial discussion going on and
what makes financial ruin or what starts it?

599
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:44.159
And I definitely say it all boils
down to financing, first with credit

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cards and then with cars and being
upside down with cars. So as you

601
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approach, as you approach adulthood and
have you kids, you have kids who

602
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:01.519
are doing this. The biggest mistake
people make, in my opinion, is

603
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buying an old, used car for
someone. I really mean that. Now,

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00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:15.559
if you get a slightly used,
truly good car, it could last

605
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:22.280
someone. But the problem is they're
getting to be so expensive that people make

606
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:29.840
a mistake of buying used cars and
spending too much for them, or they

607
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:34.599
buy cars with one hundred and fifty
thousand miles or more on them. I'm

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00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:39.920
just going to tell you something,
Okay, don't buy cars with over one

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hundred thousand miles. Just don't.
I don't know how else to put it.

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Don't. If you want to do
your kit of favor, look for

611
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:58.719
special finance deals on an entry level
new car with a five or ten year

612
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:06.599
warranty. Those small payments that you
make on that car will more than be

613
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:09.239
made up for, because if you
buy an old used car with one hundred

614
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:14.840
and fifty thousand miles, you will
have major problems with it. It's not

615
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:20.440
a it's just not a question.
You're going to now. In very very

616
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:25.480
rare, rare, rare situations,
you have people that take care of cars,

617
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.840
and you might find a gem from
a little old lady from Pasadena.

618
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:35.880
That would be fine. If you
can find a gem that was truly taken

619
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:43.079
care of, do it. But
that rarely happens. So in the absence

620
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:52.079
of thatw a brand new entry level
vehicle with the good warranties and really good

621
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:55.880
loan rates on newer cars they have
at all, they do it right there,

622
00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:00.760
and they're incentivizing you to buy that, and you can really get ahead

623
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:05.719
of the system, but you must
keep it for the duration of the loan

624
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:09.199
or you will never get ahead.
Ever, and for older people, you

625
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:15.880
should look into leasing, but only
only if you lease from an honest less

626
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:22.119
or who does it in a way
that you're not paying extra Because it's a

627
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:29.199
lease, that's a whole different ballgame. See leasing, if only they did

628
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:32.679
it right, would be very beneficial
to people. But most leasing companies don't

629
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:37.360
do it right. Because it's a
lease and the payment is lower because you're

630
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:43.960
financing the depreciation. What they do
is take advantage of that and then pack

631
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:46.840
the car and make the payment higher. But they say, well, you're

632
00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:52.519
still saving money over a purchase.
But it's just I can't even get into

633
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:55.679
it right now. It's the most
stupid way to lease a car. Let's

634
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.920
talk to Al. Al, welcome
to the show. What's going on?

635
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:06.639
Yeah? Uh, you were talking
about credit cards earlier, and I have

636
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:13.000
a fair amount of credit debt due
to various reasons, fighting court battles and

637
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:17.440
I'm unemployed. How much how much
that are you in now? Just tell

638
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:28.519
me how much debt credit cards?
Probably forty five thousand and then I you

639
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:32.880
know, I got a maybe a
fifteen thousand dollars car loan, And tell

640
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:38.199
me how much how much equity in
your car? Oh it's yeah, it's

641
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:43.920
probably twenty five or thirty thousand,
that's not that's not my biggest concern.

642
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:45.559
No, No, I know,
I know. I'm just trying to get

643
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:47.119
a picture here because I know you're
going to ask some questions. So the

644
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:53.559
car is you owe how much on
it? Fifteen? Yeah? About fifteen?

645
00:55:54.079 --> 00:56:00.440
And it's truly worth double that?
Yes, okay, I'll pay down

646
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:05.880
in that. I'm good. Uh, just just a tremendous amount of credit

647
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:10.079
card debt, and I'm curious if
there's do you own a home? Yes?

648
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:17.000
And how much equity in your home? Oh? Five hundred thousand,

649
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:22.599
But I can't access it because I
don't have the credit rating to get a

650
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:32.480
decent Wait a minute, you have
five hundred thousand dollars in equity somewhere in

651
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:37.559
that range four hundred to five hundred, and you own it alone? Yes?

652
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:43.039
Okay, wow, Okay, that
takes you out of that takes you

653
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:45.840
out of the bankruptcy thing. Okay, go ahead, right, I can't

654
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:47.519
I can't go bankrupt. What is
the rate? What is the rate on

655
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:54.760
your loan? Home loan? Yeah? Two point seventy five? I think

656
00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:57.960
something like, God, are you
in? Are you in good shape?

657
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:01.519
There? Keep going? So?
Yeah, I'm just I'm The problem I

658
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:06.320
have is all these credit cards you
know there, their interest rates are just

659
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:13.159
rising every year, and I every
time I start making progress on it,

660
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:16.280
something happens and I go back into, you know, not being able to

661
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:22.320
pay. And I really want to
pay them off. But the idea I'm

662
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:25.440
looking at is how do I get
the lowest interest rate for all my debt

663
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:30.159
outside? Well, you just said
you can't qualify because you have bad credit.

664
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:35.960
Do you have bad credit? Yeah? Because because I have too much

665
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:40.440
credit, too or too much did
I owe versus? You know? Well,

666
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.559
how much you make a year?
How much you make a year?

667
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:52.320
Well, I was making one forty
until March and then I got laid off.

668
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.559
So now I'm doing small jobs,
handyman type of work, and so

669
00:57:55.679 --> 00:58:04.480
I'm maybe making thirty in a year. What were you making before? What

670
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:09.320
were you doing? What were you
doing? Engineering? And you can't get

671
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:15.480
another engineering job. I'm having a
real tough time right now finding one.

672
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:19.639
And everything that I'm finding is usually
out of state, and then they put

673
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:25.239
them on hold. What I'm seeing
is that I keep getting interviewed and then

674
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:32.719
they they just cancel the whole They
cancel the position so it's like, I'm

675
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:36.960
going to tell you you're not alone
in this, bro. You want to

676
00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:40.960
hear what I'm hearing. People are
not very I don't know why. And

677
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:45.280
again when I say I don't know
why, I don't know the specifics.

678
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:51.039
I really don't. But people are
becoming very hesitant right now about the future.

679
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:55.039
And I don't know if it's because
they fear Biden will be re elected

680
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:59.119
or if they fear Trump will be
elected. I don't know the reason.

681
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:05.039
I really don't, but I find
a lot of corporations right now are hesitant

682
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:12.559
on hiring right right. They really
are. You're the third person I heard

683
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:17.920
where they started interviewing for a position
then eliminated or said we're not going to

684
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.480
fill it right now. Yeah.
Well, it's an election year, which

685
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:28.519
is always tough to find, you
know, higher profile jobs, but man

686
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:34.400
it I think it's worse this year. I'm kind of engineering. Oh well,

687
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:38.320
I've done mechanical, I've done instrument
and controls, and I've been a

688
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:43.800
project manager for over twenty years.
So where was your last year? What

689
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:51.920
corporation did you work for last Sergeant
Lundy? Okay, Now, now I

690
00:59:52.000 --> 01:00:01.079
want to know about your monthly payments
on those How many credit cards? Well,

691
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:06.639
there's primarily there's two that I have
the majority of the debt on the

692
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:10.159
third one I was keeping paid off, but that's not going to continue right

693
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:15.760
now. So are you? What
are your payments on those three credit cards?

694
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:22.360
Oh? Add it up? Yeah, probably two thousand a month?

695
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:29.039
Holy crap? And how and and
and so at two thousand a month?

696
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:35.639
How long will you be in debt
on that forty five grand? That for?

697
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:39.440
Yeah, forever? Twenty years?
Yeah? What is your fiico right

698
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:46.519
now? It's not. It just
dropped due to a late payment and it's

699
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:53.519
down to six point thirty. It
was at six eighty. But okay,

700
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:59.599
hold on a second, And how
how old are you? Fifty five?

701
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:04.280
All right, hold on, I
want to talk to a couple people here.

702
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:07.480
Three oh three. You're a very
interesting case and we should look into

703
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:10.920
this. Hold on three oh three, seven, one, three, eight,

704
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710
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:52.599
three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Artino, you're troubleshooter three

711
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:58.280
O three seven one three talks seven
one three eight two five five. All

712
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:02.480
right, I want to I got
a crazy idea for Al. You bring

713
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:07.079
up Al, I'm going to bring
up Mark Massey. Mark, are you

714
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:14.320
there? Yes, Sir, Mark
Massey is in the reverse loan business.

715
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:19.079
Now, before you go crazy,
Al, just hear me out. I

716
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:23.800
know you're not really a candidate for
a reverse loan under normal circumstances, but

717
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:29.400
you got a very weird situation.
And again I might be barking up the

718
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.719
wrong tree. You're fifty five,
you have five hundred thousand dollars in equity,

719
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.360
but you have a six thirty FICO
and you're struggling with credit card debt

720
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:43.760
you want to get rid of.
So this credit card debt is costing you

721
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:46.360
a ton of money. And if
you got rid of the credit card debt,

722
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:54.320
your other debt would be manageable,
right, yes, now, Mark

723
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:59.239
Massey, I have a crazy question. If you had somebody like Al with

724
01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:05.360
a six thirty FICO five hundred thousand
dollars in equity and he's trying to get

725
01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:09.360
out of debt, all he wants
is to get out of forty five thousand

726
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:14.199
dollars worth of debt. If he
got a reverse loan at fifty five.

727
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:19.119
I know that fifty five there are
special reverse loans you can get, and

728
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:22.840
he simply put enough money in there
to pay off the credit cards. And

729
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:27.039
that was one of the understandings that
at closing he'd pay off these credit cards

730
01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:31.800
and then he literally kept the loan
until he could refinance it, maybe until

731
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:35.960
rates go down or whatever, or
or keep it. I don't give a

732
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:39.360
damn what he does. But what
I'm saying is is that have you had

733
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:45.639
people do reverse loans for a temporary
measure to get out of debt and then

734
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:52.039
go back to a conventional loan or
keep it. Most people do keep it,

735
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:55.280
Tom but absolutely that makes sense because
it'll pencil out. You know,

736
01:03:55.280 --> 01:04:00.360
if you're paying twenty five to thirty
percent on your credit cards, you turn

737
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:02.559
around and pay seven and a half
on forty five thousand. That's a heck

738
01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:06.559
of a lot better, and it
helps the situation with a six thirty five,

739
01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:10.320
anything kind of north of six hundred
is going to be fine. On

740
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:14.559
the reverse side, they you know, they get a little the problem.

741
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:16.960
I see, there's a few things. I see that's a big problem.

742
01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:23.559
His damn loan is only right now, just two point seven five percent.

743
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:28.519
It's almost like free money for God's
sakes. But I but but when you

744
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:31.920
think about it, when you take
his two point seventy five on that and

745
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:39.320
you average it into his other debt, then you have a blended rate that's

746
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:44.840
way higher. So so L and
that's the right that's the right comparison point.

747
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:46.719
Tom, Like you're saying what you
should do out here, I'm not

748
01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:50.920
recommending you rush into this, but
what I'm what I'm saying is if you

749
01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:57.119
pencil it out and you can get
a pretty decent rate, that will lower

750
01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:01.960
your overall blended rate, and you
can get out of that debt and listen

751
01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:05.400
to this and not have a house
payment until you want to refinance it,

752
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:09.400
or you can make it. You
can make your interest payments, you can

753
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:14.199
do whatever you want. But what
I'm getting at is you would have breathing

754
01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:17.960
room here and you would be able
to get rid of the high interest debt,

755
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:23.320
preserve your credit, build your credit
back, and I think you'd be

756
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:28.599
an excellent candidate. But but you
have to really put the pencil to it.

757
01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:32.559
And Mark Massey, I think he's
honest enough. I don't think I

758
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:35.599
know's he's not going to tell you
to get it if it's not going to

759
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:41.159
do you any good. It's called
suitability, but it's something you may want

760
01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:46.599
to consider, Okay, it's something
you go ahead. My question would be

761
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:55.039
like if you if I do a
reverse loan on the house, then then

762
01:05:55.119 --> 01:06:00.719
I have a blended blended rate,
right So no, no, no,

763
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:03.320
no. What I'm saying is this
is that you you have a blended rate.

764
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:05.880
Now, so the only way to
know what that is is you take

765
01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:10.039
your two point seventy five and add
up to three other cards and divide it

766
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:14.519
by four or yeah, or if
you have three cards plus your loan and

767
01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:17.840
you divide it by four and get
your arithmetic. Mean, that's what you're

768
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:21.360
paying, that's what you that's what
your blended rate is. And if you

769
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:25.960
can get close to that, even
if you're paying a tiny bit more on

770
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:30.400
that blended rate. Your payment will
be manageable because you can make it your

771
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:32.920
payment or not make it. But
the greatest part of this is you're not

772
01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:36.519
going to miss any more payments.
You're going to build credit. And then

773
01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:41.360
what you have to do after that
is decide what to do after that.

774
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:44.639
Well, you can take a breather
until you get a job, you can

775
01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:48.880
refinance it after that, whatever.
But you it's it's a product that you

776
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:53.559
can get without a lot of credit, and it will it will stop the

777
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:57.320
bleeding, is what I'm saying.
But I want to ask Mark Massy something

778
01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:00.519
straight up, Mark, what is
the action cost of this? How much

779
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:03.400
is he going to add? I
mean, we know he's going to add

780
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:06.480
something because there's going to be some
points or something. If you had to

781
01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:11.360
put a price on it, and
let's face it, on a five hundred

782
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:14.800
thousand dollars equity, he's not looking
for you know, at fifty five,

783
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:16.559
he's not looking for a lot of
money. But if he did like one

784
01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:20.880
hundred grand, let's say, buffer
one hundred grand line of credit, how

785
01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:27.400
much are we talking about in cost? So the cost that I could walk

786
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:30.440
you through is going to be real
close SAHA. This is not an FAHA

787
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:34.639
product. So if he doesn't have
to pay the two percent of the appraised

788
01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:40.480
value of the home, so we're
probably looking at about let's just call it

789
01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:45.280
three, let's call it, call
it nine thousand dollars. Oh, correct,

790
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:49.559
and we're going to be close with
nine thousand dollars and nine thousand dollars.

791
01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:51.920
He didn't have to come out of
pocket. That just rolls to the

792
01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:59.320
back of the loan, okay.
But so his forty five turns into fifty

793
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:03.239
four basically is his but he does
a way. Like I said, you

794
01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:08.360
got to do the math here,
al and look at your long term plan.

795
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:12.039
Man, you really do. I'm
not suggesting it will work. I'm

796
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:15.440
just giving a suggestion on what to
do. Mark, give out your phone

797
01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:18.439
number right now. Sure, my
number is. You can just call me

798
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:24.399
direct seven one three two five six
four six seven six. I'm here in

799
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:27.800
Colorado, and I'd like to help
you do the math and walk through the

800
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:30.760
different scenarios. And I do both
reverse and forward. So if there's a

801
01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:34.239
better regular mortgage option, let's just
look at it. It's going to be

802
01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:38.239
a math formula. You can kind
of tell me what you want to do

803
01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:41.479
and maybe can you Can he get
it right now? Can he get a

804
01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:44.880
second? But he can't get a
second with that low rate? Could he

805
01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:48.079
with that low score? Yeah,
the score starts to affect you on the

806
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:53.159
front side. Even more so is
his income. Give your number again?

807
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:57.000
You have to give your number again. Seven one, three, two five,

808
01:08:57.119 --> 01:09:00.880
six four six seven now hold on, okay, thank you very much.

809
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:06.159
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815
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:38.880
three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hey Tom Martine here three three seven

816
01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:41.880
on three. I don't have a
lot to Hannah. We will take you,

817
01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:45.079
I promise, but I need to
go back to Al. Joe Canno,

818
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:47.640
do you have any suggestions for Al? You heard a situation what do

819
01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:53.760
you think. You know, Tom, that's pretty uh you know, that's

820
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:57.680
pretty common really. You know.
My suggestion would be, you know that

821
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:04.520
maybe uh either get I mean try
to get a refinance and pay a higher

822
01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:08.800
rate. But I mean i don't
see anybody that, uh, you know,

823
01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:13.760
I'm not sure there's slender stuff could
actually offer, you know, some

824
01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:16.960
some kind of refinancing treadom for him. Now, when you let me ask

825
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:21.720
you something, Joe, when you
talk about getting people out of debt,

826
01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:26.640
like like, how do you guys
do it? I mean, he's he's

827
01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:30.159
already pretty tapped out. So I'd
like to talk about your plan where you

828
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:32.920
have a plan to get people out
of debt, and we can do that

829
01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:38.359
coming up after the break in general. But I'm gonna take Hannah after the

830
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:41.199
break and then we'll go back to
this because I like to know what that

831
01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:44.600
looks like. Now. He might
be too far gone with what he's got

832
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:48.159
going on right now, but I'd
like to to tap your brain on it.

833
01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:53.520
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843
01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:54.439
Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome
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844
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01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:00.079
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854
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:44.279
about your problems. Okay, I'm
going to start with I believe Al.

855
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:50.960
I want to finish up with AL
and AL on your debt consolidation. Are

856
01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:56.680
you still there? Okay? I
think that that is. You know,

857
01:12:56.720 --> 01:13:00.560
that's going to be an expensive option
because you're adding nine grand in costs.

858
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:02.640
Okay, I mean that's just the
way it is. However, if you

859
01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:05.960
needed to keep that loan for a
full year or two or as long as

860
01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:11.680
you want, you don't have to
worry about it. Well, again,

861
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:15.359
it's going to accrue interest and it's
going to also eat up equity, but

862
01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:21.279
you can also make payments on it
if you want to maintain equity. But

863
01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:28.000
here's what I'm thinking, I would
never suggest it under your circumstances. Normally,

864
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:32.199
if you could get a home equity
loan, so you might want to

865
01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:36.840
see you might want to see what
a home equity loan would you know,

866
01:13:36.920 --> 01:13:42.159
with your low credit, if someone
would do a higher rate and take more

867
01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:45.840
risk with that, and then it
might turn out to be cheaper. Let's

868
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:50.479
say someone would do that for you
for lower points. Let's say somebody would

869
01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:56.119
do a second, a peer to
peer lender would do a second on your

870
01:13:56.119 --> 01:14:00.600
home, and they would charge you
instead of all that you know, nine

871
01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:03.439
grand, let's say three three or
four thousand dollars or two thousand or what,

872
01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:10.720
and then a substantial rate even but
but but what it would be even

873
01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:14.239
if they charge you eight percent,
you still have your two point seventy five

874
01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:16.800
percent on your house, and then
you get a small equity loan just to

875
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:19.640
pay off what you need to.
You might want to go. I don't

876
01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:24.840
know how. I don't know anything
about peer to peer lending al but I

877
01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:30.479
do know people do it. Okay, again, that is something you may

878
01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:33.920
want to look into. It's called
peer to peer lending. I will check

879
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:40.720
that out, and I know,
I don't know. I could talk to

880
01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:44.159
my credit unions and see if they
do that. I kind of yeah,

881
01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:46.520
they I don't think with your score, but you can talk to them.

882
01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:50.319
Nothing wrong with it. But but
I wouldn't refin if I didn't have to

883
01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:56.680
refly that first. I wouldn't.
I don't want to refly. That's going

884
01:14:56.760 --> 01:15:04.960
to be a you know how much
you are on that first probably about three

885
01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:10.039
hundred and sixty, So you're saying
your house is worth over eight hundred.

886
01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:15.520
Yeah, Okay, listen out,
just tread lightly. Call me with any

887
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:20.199
advice you need. But at least
you're starting to look for ways to get

888
01:15:20.199 --> 01:15:26.680
out of this mess. And you
do, you do. I have to

889
01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:30.640
look for ways out of this mess. And I would try to get a

890
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:34.359
peer to peer second. That's probably
my first option. Try to get a

891
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:39.640
second and where they're not going to
rob you. But then you're going to

892
01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:43.199
have to have a prospect for getting
a job or doing something. You're not

893
01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:46.880
gonna you know, it's just going
to kick the ball down down the street

894
01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:50.760
right now. But what you have
to do is look for a longer term

895
01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:55.640
plan. Okay, let's go back
to the phones. Now. It is

896
01:15:55.720 --> 01:16:01.159
Hannah's Hannah, go ahead, Hannah, what's happening? Hello, Hi,

897
01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:06.720
Hannah, what's happening? Hi?
Tom? So, my car was toad

898
01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:13.439
on the thirtieth of May by this
Toad company down here in Colorado Springs.

899
01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:18.880
It was toad because they were painting
the parking lot the next morning and my

900
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:25.960
husband had parked there unknowing that is
it in your apartment complex? Yeah it

901
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:30.039
is, okay, And so were
their notices put out and all that,

902
01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:32.319
because usually they do it the right
way. Usually they do it the right

903
01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:36.640
way. So you're not contesting the
reason, are you? No? No,

904
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:40.640
I'm not contesting why it was told? Okay, got it? So

905
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:44.960
what are you contell? What are
you calling about then? So it's a

906
01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:48.199
whole big thing. So they towed
my car, not contesting why it was

907
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:53.720
toad. I called I'd say an
hour after it was toad it toad at

908
01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:58.199
seven thirty three in the morning.
We called within the hour, maybe an

909
01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:00.439
hour and a half because I had
to go to work that morning. The

910
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:05.039
car. They said that we could
come pick the car up and pay two

911
01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:09.560
fifty to get it or three hundred
for them to come drop it back off.

912
01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:13.000
So we went up there to get
that's me, that's very that's very

913
01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:18.239
reasonable by today's standards. Yeah,
that's reasonable. So I had no problem

914
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:23.399
paying for the toe by the way, no problem. So we went up

915
01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:25.840
there, My mom and my husband
went up there because I was at work

916
01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:29.680
to pick up the car. They
get there, the car's not there.

917
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:32.880
Now this is by that time,
two hours after it had been toed.

918
01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:40.319
The car's not there. So they
sat around and waited and waited and waited

919
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:44.720
with no answers. There were other
cars coming that had been told from the

920
01:17:44.720 --> 01:17:47.960
same apartment car, Where was your
car? That's what I'm saying, Where

921
01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:55.439
was my car? So? But
get this, they didn't show up until

922
01:17:55.560 --> 01:18:00.399
or they didn't end up telling us
until afternoon where the car was. So

923
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:04.279
at around twelve thirty noon they come
and say, my car's been in an

924
01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:10.920
accident. What but yeah, yeah, but no, wait wait, wait,

925
01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:15.039
wait, Hannah, Hannah, Hannah. It was towed into this yard.

926
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:18.319
How did it get into an accident? That's what I'm saying. So

927
01:18:18.479 --> 01:18:23.560
it was towed at seven thirty three
in the morning. At noon they tell

928
01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:28.000
us it's been in at like twelve
thirty almost one, they say, it's

929
01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:32.920
been in an accident, But the
accident didn't happen until noon. So where

930
01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:39.920
were they with my car from seven
thirty three in the morning until twelve o'clock

931
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:43.600
in the afternoon? But what kind
of an accident? Tell me about the

932
01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:46.399
accident? Like like what do they
mean? And was someone driving it?

933
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:51.640
No, so the toe come,
the toe driver got in the car accident

934
01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:57.880
with my car on his toe Okay, but they what was he driving around

935
01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:01.039
with it all morning? Yes,
from seven point thirty three in the morning

936
01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:06.840
until noon that afternoon on a one
car tow bed. So there's no reason

937
01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:10.880
why. I mean, I could
understand if he was towing other cars,

938
01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:15.279
but it's a one bed. It's
a one car toe bed, so he

939
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:18.760
couldn't have been towing anyone else.
So how what happened to your truck to

940
01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:26.319
your car? So when the car
when the tow truck rammed or hit the

941
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:33.199
other car, my car flew backwards
into the pole that holds the the toe

942
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:39.119
rig thing. So it the back
of my car wrapped around that pole.

943
01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:45.119
What are they going to do about
it? They got insurance, so that's

944
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:49.640
the thing. They won't give me
their insurance. All right, this is

945
01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:54.960
ridiculous. Hold on, Hold on, hold on, this is absolutely what's

946
01:19:55.000 --> 01:20:00.079
the name of the toe company.
It's called toe Pros LLC, Colorado Springs

947
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:04.880
And by the way, through the
Better Business Bureau website, it says they

948
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:11.399
have an F rating. They're not
Better Business bureau accredited and they don't have

949
01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:19.399
licensing. Oh oh uh oh uh
oh, they probably don't have insurance or

950
01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:27.880
anything. That's what I'm saying.
So I called the apartment complex an apartment

951
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:32.159
complex man or the own whatever.
The property manager, who I've never spoken

952
01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:36.239
to before, says that they do
have insurance. He assures me they have

953
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:41.520
insurance, but because of what happens, they want to pay for it out

954
01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:46.439
of pocket. Because they want to
pay for it out of pocket, because

955
01:20:46.520 --> 01:20:50.640
how much damage do you have?
Have you had it assessed? Yeah,

956
01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:54.840
So that's what I'm trying to get
to. So the they say they want

957
01:20:54.840 --> 01:21:00.079
to pay for it out of pocket
because they don't want their their insurance rape.

958
01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:04.199
Okay, got it? How much
damage? So they told it to

959
01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:10.359
an autobody shop. Thisll just tell
me how much damage right now? Well,

960
01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:14.520
so there's it's. I think it
was like twenty five hundred dollars for

961
01:21:14.600 --> 01:21:16.640
the damage to the back of the
car. But because they won't give me

962
01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:20.960
their insurance information or anything, I
mean, I'm thinking it probably should have

963
01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:27.000
been totaled out. Well, what
year is your car? It's a twenty

964
01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:31.399
nineteen fourd escape. Okay, first
of all, you shouldn't let them get

965
01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:35.239
it estimated. You need to do
it. Do you have insurance? Oh?

966
01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:41.079
Yeah? So but here's the thing
though, they towed it to the

967
01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:45.520
autobody shop, and the autobody guy
has it. So then they were calling

968
01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:49.479
me telling me they were going to
give me a loaner car because this has

969
01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:55.359
already happened. This was May,
May thirtieth that all this happened. So

970
01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:58.479
they said they want to give me
a loaner car, they'll get the car

971
01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:01.640
fixed and all this. So then
they call back a couple hours later they

972
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:05.000
now they don't want to because the
loaner car that they were going to give

973
01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:11.439
me was I guess the owner of
the toe company's car. Hey, Hannah,

974
01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:15.520
Hannah, listen, Hannah, these
guys are just screwing you guys royally.

975
01:22:15.960 --> 01:22:21.239
Now hold on, I mean you
need to do you have insurance?

976
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:28.760
Yeah? I do have insurance.
You need to send your insurance guy over

977
01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:32.600
there to assess the adjuster to find
out how much damage there is. And

978
01:22:32.640 --> 01:22:36.439
you need to put an acclaim with
your insurance and let them fight their insurance.

979
01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:42.800
That's what you need to do.
Yeah, but I'm I'm I'm already

980
01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:45.960
I'm already way screwed past that point. Well, what do you mean screwed?

981
01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:49.680
Did they take it apart and start
fixing it? Yeah, they've already

982
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:55.279
started fixing it. And and what
hold on a second, and what kind

983
01:22:55.319 --> 01:22:58.920
of repair job are they going to
do? What if this toe company is

984
01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:04.239
good friends with the body shop and
they're gonna screw you, Well, you

985
01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:10.800
can't let that happen. Send your
insurance person over, or send an expert

986
01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:15.600
over that you know and trust.
You can't let these people do it without

987
01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:23.920
checking. Are you listening, Hannah? Yeah? I am. I just

988
01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:27.319
you gotta let this. Hannah.
You need an expert on your side.

989
01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:29.960
I don't care who it is.
You need to hire someone to look at

990
01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:34.319
that car. Now, here's the
next thing. Okay, you say they

991
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:39.119
started fixing it, what have you
been doing for another car so far?

992
01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:44.199
So that's what they said. So
they said that they'd get me a rental

993
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:45.920
car, but they didn't, did
they Or did they? Yes? Or

994
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:49.760
no? Did you get a replacement
car? They did give me a rental,

995
01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:55.840
but they would not put the rental
under their like, they would not

996
01:23:56.079 --> 01:24:00.640
put it under their insurance. So
they were cashapping me the money for the

997
01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:05.159
rental car. So the rental car
is under my name through they were sending

998
01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:09.039
me money through cash app for the
PRIs. You are you know, Hannah,

999
01:24:09.239 --> 01:24:13.479
you handled this all wrong? So
right now? Did they stop making

1000
01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:17.319
payments on the rental? Yeah,
they did over the weeks as of Friday.

1001
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:24.159
Why I so Friday came around.
This is a thing. They said

1002
01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:29.880
my car would be ready on Friday
to pick up, so then they only

1003
01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:34.039
had extended the rental through the fourteenth. So Friday came around. I called

1004
01:24:34.119 --> 01:24:38.600
the auto body shop. He says
that he told them the car was ready

1005
01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:43.000
at eleven am, and then they
stopped contacting him after he told them the

1006
01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:46.239
car was ready. So they're not
going to pay for the car. Well,

1007
01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:49.520
they already put a deposit to the
guy because the guy said he wasn't

1008
01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:54.960
going to do a work on it
unless they paid him a deposit first.

1009
01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:02.399
How much is owed on it?
I think probably half of the three hundred.

1010
01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:10.279
These guys sound like These guys sound
like scumbags, Yeah they are.

1011
01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:15.000
So then I did some research over
the weekend, like looking at reviews,

1012
01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:19.960
and that's how I found out about
the Better Business Bureau accreditation and stuff.

1013
01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:25.680
I don't care about the Better Business
Bureau. Okay that that's the last thing

1014
01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:30.479
on my mind, because the Better
Business Bureau is a is a dinosaur organization

1015
01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:35.520
with no credibility whatsoever. They're just
they're during ancient organization. Their credit,

1016
01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:43.800
their accreditation means absolutely nothing, absolutely
nothing. Did you do any research on

1017
01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:47.479
the auto body shop? Well?
What about you know they took it there,

1018
01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:54.319
not her, so what research would
But they're I'm just curious if they

1019
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:59.359
have a good reputation that they do
have a good reputation the auto body shop.

1020
01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:01.279
I've talked to the guy who owns
the auto body shop, he's the

1021
01:26:01.319 --> 01:26:08.079
one working on the car. He's
he's he does have a good reputation.

1022
01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:13.439
But what about the fact that it
says that they're licensing is they don't?

1023
01:26:13.560 --> 01:26:16.680
They have nothing? Well, what's
the state doing about it? I don't

1024
01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:23.239
know if the Department of Regulatory Agencies
Dora. They haven't obtained licensing through them.

1025
01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:27.720
Okay, you need to contact and
put in a complaint, did you?

1026
01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:31.319
Yeah, So that's the thing.
When I tried calling Friday, they

1027
01:26:31.319 --> 01:26:33.800
weren't open. So I was planning
on doing that today, putting in a

1028
01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:38.560
complaint through them, because what I
ended up doing Friday night was contacting the

1029
01:26:38.560 --> 01:26:43.439
police. But at this point,
because of the I guess agreement that I've

1030
01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:46.239
had with them, they the police
said it's the civil matter at this point,

1031
01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:50.119
which I understand. I was expecting
that it is. Listen, here's

1032
01:26:50.119 --> 01:26:54.199
what we have to do. I
need to put somebody on. This is

1033
01:26:54.199 --> 01:27:00.359
Deputy Bow there, We've got Deputy
jock In and we do have Deputy Bow

1034
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:04.039
as well. Yeah, Deputy Bow. I want to because I think Doc

1035
01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:11.760
said he was working on to already. Is that right? And I mean

1036
01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:17.159
the the the reviews about this toe
company are just outrageous. Like the Toner

1037
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:23.159
that's the owner, Tony. I
guess he just screams racial slurs at people.

1038
01:27:23.279 --> 01:27:28.359
He's gotten arrested at toe site before. He's They've done this to multiple

1039
01:27:28.439 --> 01:27:31.199
cars, have caused damage and recked
multiple cars, and then they just go

1040
01:27:31.359 --> 01:27:35.079
no contact. Hannah. I just
wait, I have a question. The

1041
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:40.119
body shop said it's gonna be ready
on Friday. What happened? Did you

1042
01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:44.960
go to pick it up? So
they wouldn't let me pick it up on

1043
01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:50.359
Friday because they hadn't been paid for
So he's telling me, but hold on,

1044
01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:54.279
is it done right now? Hannah, is it done right? Now?

1045
01:27:54.319 --> 01:27:57.960
It's done, It's done. Yes. So you know, I've been

1046
01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:00.560
in contact with the terry as a
while. We've been on the phone,

1047
01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:05.800
and he's telling me that he contacted
them this morning and that they said they

1048
01:28:05.800 --> 01:28:10.000
would call and pay him was a
credit card. So I don't know,

1049
01:28:10.279 --> 01:28:12.560
all right. I got to say, hold on, hold on, hold

1050
01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:16.039
on, Deputy Bow, call these
people, call these clowns. I want

1051
01:28:16.039 --> 01:28:20.359
to assign it to Bow unless Bo
is slammed. But I don't think he

1052
01:28:20.439 --> 01:28:23.680
is right now. I'm not sure. I'm trying to keep track here,

1053
01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:34.800
Okay. Three oh three seven one
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1055
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1056
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1057
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1059
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List your home with Remax Alliance three
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1060
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:14.319
Hi, Tom Martino, you're a
troubleshooter. Three all three seven to one

1061
01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:18.479
three talk three oh three seven one
three eight two five five. Okay,

1062
01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:29.680
So Butch, what's going on with
you? Butch? Hey? But what's

1063
01:29:29.720 --> 01:29:32.880
going on? Hey? Man?
How you doing? By the way,

1064
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:35.479
what do you get up on a
weekend? You have a good weekend?

1065
01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:43.000
Father's Day celebration. I I was
the father's day, first Father's Day for

1066
01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:46.680
me. Oh that's very cool.
That's howlds your holds your baby? Then

1067
01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:51.640
less than a year obviously, right, three months? Almost a three months

1068
01:29:51.680 --> 01:29:59.119
and he is a very very smart
somebody. Oh he's even smarter than daddy

1069
01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:01.560
already. I say, come on, that's a little too much. So

1070
01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:08.560
what's going on? Man? So
I was wondering, I'm going on the

1071
01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:15.039
internet a lot on there. Yeah, yeah, and I'll be looking at

1072
01:30:15.359 --> 01:30:19.119
for a for a product. What
are you looking at? A mousepad?

1073
01:30:19.279 --> 01:30:24.199
Mousepad? I want to get a
mousepad. I don't know what's the best

1074
01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:27.880
mousepad. Which one is the best
mousepad? How do a mousepad? And

1075
01:30:28.039 --> 01:30:30.760
you click a mousepad? Yes,
sir, I say take a gamble?

1076
01:30:30.840 --> 01:30:36.119
Shit, okay, well I don't
gamble, sir. I'd like to be

1077
01:30:36.279 --> 01:30:40.479
very serious about what are they?
Fifteen dollars? If that? How much

1078
01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:46.199
are they? One of them has
cost three hundred a mousepad. Yeah,

1079
01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:50.239
it's got a special tracking technology.
And come on, man, come on,

1080
01:30:50.279 --> 01:30:55.520
okay, give your entire desk with
led a mousepad for goodness sake.

1081
01:30:55.640 --> 01:31:00.199
I mean I thought you're talking about
just like a little rubber eyed mousepad.

1082
01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:02.840
Well I could be. And what's
the other guy off of cam? He

1083
01:31:02.960 --> 01:31:06.159
said? The interesting thing? Oh, the whole desk. There's a very

1084
01:31:06.199 --> 01:31:10.119
big one as well that you can
put a whole your whole desk is a

1085
01:31:10.159 --> 01:31:15.960
mousepad that costs a lot more than
twelve dollars. Now the mouse pads.

1086
01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:19.520
I just went on Amazon and I
put mousepad down. They got one with

1087
01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:23.920
a risk guard for eight bucks.
They got nine dollars. They have a

1088
01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:26.840
seven sixty five. I mean,
I don't know what the hell you're looking.

1089
01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:30.880
I don't tracking technology? Does that
have tracking technology? Well? Hold

1090
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:32.239
on, what kind of mouse do
you have? Optical? Or is it?

1091
01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:38.640
Is it the little ball on the
bottom? Oh can you imagine?

1092
01:31:38.720 --> 01:31:40.960
It's a no? No, what
kind of mouse do you play this?

1093
01:31:41.119 --> 01:31:45.119
Gamer? Bro? What kind of
mouse do you have? I have an

1094
01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:47.319
optical mouse. They don't even make
the role. Oh okay, good,

1095
01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:50.359
I didn't know that. Okay,
right, optic, So now you have

1096
01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:55.880
Yeah, are you a serious gamer? Good question, Greg, great question.

1097
01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:59.399
Yes, I'm a very serious gamer. And the book big game I

1098
01:31:59.439 --> 01:32:08.119
play is Lazier Suit Larry. Now
I'm looking at advanced technology here, but

1099
01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:12.119
come on, truly, what is
some of your fellow game serious? Is

1100
01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:15.000
what kind of machine you're running for? Leisure shut, Larry, leisure shut

1101
01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:20.680
Larry. Well, I got a
Penteum three that I'm running an original version

1102
01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:25.720
of leisure Suit Larry, the original
one from a Then I wouldn't worry too

1103
01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:28.359
much about a mouse pad. It's
not going to up your game, bro.

1104
01:32:28.640 --> 01:32:31.520
Come on. But my big question
is when you go to one of

1105
01:32:31.520 --> 01:32:34.239
these sites, how do you know
this is a serious question? How do

1106
01:32:34.279 --> 01:32:36.640
you? Okay? God? Because
they have all these sights and they say

1107
01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:40.640
go ahead, oh this is the
best one. They have them all listed

1108
01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:43.560
out, but they seem like ads
a lot of them. Is there like

1109
01:32:43.600 --> 01:32:46.279
a real place for consumer, like
an actual site that is good? I

1110
01:32:46.520 --> 01:32:50.079
like this. Okay, here's what
I do seriously, on a serious note,

1111
01:32:50.159 --> 01:32:55.520
here's what I do on Amazon.
If you go to the reviews.

1112
01:32:55.560 --> 01:33:00.319
You're gonna get some honest reviews.
You really are, okay, so Amazon

1113
01:33:00.359 --> 01:33:03.439
reviews is good. What I do
is, for example, let me see

1114
01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:09.640
what's the name of the one you're
looking at, the witch, the mouthpad,

1115
01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:12.279
the one that was really expensive just
for the heck of it. I

1116
01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:15.800
want to see what the reviews are. Go ahead, Oh, I have

1117
01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:16.880
to pull it up. Now,
let me pull it up the moment,

1118
01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:20.640
Yeah, pull it because here's what
I do. Now, Now a dragon,

1119
01:33:20.680 --> 01:33:26.079
have you done that? Have you
gone on and looked at the actual

1120
01:33:26.119 --> 01:33:29.439
people's purchased it, or they have
questions, you know? And I try

1121
01:33:29.439 --> 01:33:32.199
to stay away from the guys that
all all five stars, all one stars.

1122
01:33:32.239 --> 01:33:34.560
Try and find the medium guys,
because then those are the ones are

1123
01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:39.880
a little bit more honest about everything
that's right, that's true, or beware

1124
01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:42.960
of if they're all five stars,
you get a few one or two,

1125
01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:45.760
I don't care. But if you
get a bunch of bad ones and then

1126
01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:47.960
all of a sudden a few good
ones, that's a really bad algorithm right

1127
01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:53.119
there. But I just want to
know because I go on here and you

1128
01:33:53.279 --> 01:33:57.159
have all kinds of ratings, but
you really read them, and you can

1129
01:33:57.199 --> 01:34:00.399
see, they're not all they're they're
pretty genuine. I mean, you can

1130
01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:05.720
actually see it. If so,
you get enough people responding and talking about

1131
01:34:05.800 --> 01:34:10.800
your, uh the product, you're
gonna get some honesty there. You really

1132
01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:15.079
will, so I appreciate it.
Tom. Do you have the name?

1133
01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:16.600
Do you have the name of yours? I'm just curious right now. The

1134
01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:23.039
expensive one this one here that I'm
looking at as a charging one though,

1135
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:29.239
it's the Alti Ultra Fast wireless charging
desk. It's a full moustpad covers the

1136
01:34:29.239 --> 01:34:32.720
whole desk, charges up products as
well. Oh okay, that's okay,

1137
01:34:32.760 --> 01:34:39.439
that's a whole different ballgame. Okay, okay, but listen, if you

1138
01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:43.159
go, even if you don't buy
on Amazon. By the way, if

1139
01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:45.720
you don't go the Amazon, yeah
I don't, Well, okay, but

1140
01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:50.439
you can. But it's still a
great place to go for the reviews.

1141
01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:57.199
I'm looking on here though, I
can't find anything expensive on any of these.

1142
01:34:57.720 --> 01:35:04.000
I mean, I'm luxury mousepad.
It's a black leather two and call

1143
01:35:04.279 --> 01:35:08.439
Lee. You know, there's a
whole bunch of people that don't even use

1144
01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:11.000
mousepads. They just go straight on
top of the desk and it works.

1145
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:14.640
No I would never do that.
Desk. Tell me you're telling me people

1146
01:35:14.760 --> 01:35:19.720
hitting a raw dog. Yep,
thanks for that call, all right,

1147
01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:25.960
man, thank you. Yeah,
you tell them they're hitting it raw dog.

1148
01:35:27.439 --> 01:35:31.039
Come on, you hitting a raw
dog. Got three mouse four mouses

1149
01:35:31.119 --> 01:35:34.000
right in front of me, and
none of them have a mousepad. Tom

1150
01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:38.199
is fine for us. You know, I'm an atheist. I'm gonna say

1151
01:35:38.199 --> 01:35:42.119
a prayer for his son because I
think he's gonna need it. Yeah,

1152
01:35:42.279 --> 01:35:45.920
okay. By the way, I
don't know why he had to make that

1153
01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:49.239
plane to everybody he meets in the
world, but people just deal with it.

1154
01:35:49.279 --> 01:35:51.760
What you want. I'm Tom Martine. We have more coming up.

1155
01:35:57.720 --> 01:36:00.760
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1156
01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:08.960
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1157
01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:15.000
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1158
01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:17.520
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seven to one help. You'll think you're

1159
01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:21.439
his only customer when you choose Frank
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1160
01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:27.239
list your home with Remax Alliance three
all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

1161
01:36:30.840 --> 01:36:35.600
Hi Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter one
texture at five seven seven three nine

1162
01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:41.880
wants to know why Tesla drivers get
away with no front license. First,

1163
01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:46.359
of all, front license plates are
raising our carbon footprint. We don't need

1164
01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:50.479
to make extra plates. All you
need is a rare license plate. So

1165
01:36:51.039 --> 01:36:58.319
if you're of the Church of Climate
change, then you need to urge states

1166
01:36:58.359 --> 01:37:00.640
to go with one. License plates. Just don't look right with a front

1167
01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:06.600
plate. All right, Leo,
what's going on? Hi Leo? Oh?

1168
01:37:08.119 --> 01:37:13.520
Wow, my? A few years
ago, my daughter's driving her nineteen

1169
01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:16.920
eighty nine Shivvy suv ye. Okay, well intin. She just got off

1170
01:37:16.960 --> 01:37:23.199
the streetway. Did you say an
eighty nine? Did you say a nineteen

1171
01:37:23.439 --> 01:37:30.520
eighty nine? Yes? Okay,
go ahead? A few years ago?

1172
01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:38.840
How many years ago? Okay?
Gotcha, sir, gotcha? Okay,

1173
01:37:39.399 --> 01:37:43.159
yeah, and a parking lot.
She backed up a couple of feet and

1174
01:37:43.239 --> 01:37:47.840
the left front top wheel assembly fell, came off and laid down on the

1175
01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:51.079
pavement. I don't know how many
miles were on it then, how many

1176
01:37:51.119 --> 01:37:58.479
miles on it? Oh? I
don't know. But that doesn't happen to

1177
01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:02.840
any car. But the Shivvy.
The mechanic says the upper A arm.

1178
01:38:03.960 --> 01:38:10.439
And then we got that replaced,
and she got a nineteen ninety nine uh

1179
01:38:11.079 --> 01:38:17.119
vy and that started shaking got very
loose, Sam Willa. Shaking has pulled

1180
01:38:17.159 --> 01:38:21.079
over. And so you're calling now
you're calling about a different one. Right,

1181
01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:24.359
you're not calling about the eighty nine. What do you what are you

1182
01:38:24.399 --> 01:38:30.319
calling about today? The ninety eight
or what year is it' It was the

1183
01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:36.079
ninety nine. I'm talking about General
Motors since nineteen sixties. I've got two

1184
01:38:36.119 --> 01:38:41.920
other cars the same way has had
this problem for the upper A arm.

1185
01:38:42.319 --> 01:38:46.600
And what when you say the upper
When you say the upper A arm,

1186
01:38:47.199 --> 01:38:50.640
what are you actually referring to?
What part? I've not heard it called

1187
01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:57.600
the upper A arm. I haven't
either, But it's what the hill assembly

1188
01:38:57.680 --> 01:39:01.560
fastens onto. Okay, you build
the junkyard. Look in the chivy section.

1189
01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:06.199
Do you see those front wheels over
the forty five good angle? I

1190
01:39:06.279 --> 01:39:12.159
counted twenty three of them as pick
you apart, no forge, no dodgers,

1191
01:39:12.399 --> 01:39:15.000
nobody's jail. Oh, I get
it. So you're saying that General

1192
01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:21.199
Motors has and it actually, by
the way, it actually is called an

1193
01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:27.439
upper a arm. It's a control
arm, and I looked it up,

1194
01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:30.600
and so they actually do call it
that. I just never heard it anyway.

1195
01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:36.920
So you're saying that General Motors has
a problem, a known problem or

1196
01:39:36.960 --> 01:39:43.000
is it something they're not talking about. Well, it's something they're not talking

1197
01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:46.560
about. But I had a nineteen
sixty seven Chivy did that, So they've

1198
01:39:46.600 --> 01:39:51.039
had this for forty years. Okay, but how about this, let's get

1199
01:39:51.079 --> 01:39:55.560
into this century, because you haven't
talked about a twenty twenty or newer.

1200
01:39:56.520 --> 01:40:03.760
Is what about now? Do they
problems now? Well? I don't care

1201
01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:08.680
about now. I'm talking That day
came within about two minutes of killing my

1202
01:40:08.800 --> 01:40:14.520
daughter. She is on the freeway
just before that happened. Yeah, but

1203
01:40:15.199 --> 01:40:20.680
there's so many variables like how was
it taken care of? How many miles

1204
01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:26.119
on it? There's so many things, and and if they've had a problem,

1205
01:40:26.279 --> 01:40:31.520
I can't find it. Go to
your local, pick your part,

1206
01:40:31.760 --> 01:40:35.279
go to the Chevy section. Okay. I want to call Kevin hold on

1207
01:40:35.319 --> 01:40:38.840
a second to put him on hold. I want to get Kevin call kin

1208
01:40:38.960 --> 01:40:43.079
on or and also jeffik either one
of them one or both. I really

1209
01:40:43.079 --> 01:40:45.880
do want to ask him about this, the upper arm. He's saying it's

1210
01:40:45.880 --> 01:40:55.640
a known problem. Okay, I
want to say, because I am looking

1211
01:40:55.760 --> 01:41:00.560
here and it says here they have
experienced some issues with up for control arms

1212
01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:10.920
in old, older models. Okay, up until nineteen ninety eight. My

1213
01:41:11.079 --> 01:41:15.399
god, I mean, I don't
know. We'll we'll ask our people.

1214
01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:20.600
Are you really really three thirty years
old? To be perfect? I'm confused.

1215
01:41:20.600 --> 01:41:24.840
I see. That's what I don't
understand why he would even bitch about

1216
01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:30.640
that. It's thirty plus years old. Mickey, hang on, We'll be

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01:42:06.640 --> 01:42:12.800
here. Kevin Calkins shared an autotech. Have you ever heard of General motors

1225
01:42:12.840 --> 01:42:17.079
in the eighties and nineties having problems
with the upper A arms in their suspension?

1226
01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:24.239
Not chronically? No, Okay.
I looked it up too, and

1227
01:42:24.279 --> 01:42:29.000
they said they had a few issues
with in the early nineteen nineties. But

1228
01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:34.319
Leo said, they have a problem. But Leo, it doesn't seem to

1229
01:42:34.399 --> 01:42:42.000
extend into any vehicles two thousand and
up. So we're talking about twenty four

1230
01:42:42.079 --> 01:42:49.239
years ago. This problem was overcome, Leo, necessarily. Well, what

1231
01:42:49.239 --> 01:42:51.560
do you mean, I mean,
I got a guy on here does all

1232
01:42:51.640 --> 01:42:56.119
kinds of work. Do you see
any major problems, Kevin, with any

1233
01:42:56.239 --> 01:43:00.640
of the control arms in the in
the front of you know, sort of

1234
01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:02.840
just sort of just worn out parts. I don't say, any chronic issues,

1235
01:43:02.920 --> 01:43:11.279
No, Cleo, Well you have
to do the junk yard. Check

1236
01:43:11.319 --> 01:43:16.479
out the shivvies only and what years? What years, Leo, I don't

1237
01:43:16.520 --> 01:43:20.000
know the US. There are some
cars that are not happening in the year

1238
01:43:20.039 --> 01:43:26.720
two thousand and above, and it
doesn't matter. There's other brands of cars

1239
01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:30.600
no matter how old they are,
they don't come apart. Okay, So

1240
01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:33.800
anyway, what is the point though, Leo, Leo, what is the

1241
01:43:33.840 --> 01:43:38.760
point, if you are correct,
what is the point that we have established

1242
01:43:38.960 --> 01:43:44.800
that General Motors has a problem with
upper A arms in vehicles up to year

1243
01:43:44.960 --> 01:43:48.560
nineteen ninety nine? What is the
point It goes a way to bewond Okay,

1244
01:43:48.760 --> 01:43:54.840
the point is that they've had that
since nineteen sixties. But they're not

1245
01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:58.159
going to fix it now. Those
cars are being those cars. They're not

1246
01:43:58.279 --> 01:44:01.079
going to redesign a damn thing.
They're they're all out there. Man,

1247
01:44:01.319 --> 01:44:09.199
they're old cars. So is my
old sixty six forward. Okay, So

1248
01:44:09.279 --> 01:44:12.560
what can you do to change it? They can't go back in time and

1249
01:44:12.680 --> 01:44:15.560
change it. Leo, what you're
even if what you're saying is true,

1250
01:44:15.800 --> 01:44:21.079
there's no solution. Do you expect
them to have a recall on nineteen ninety

1251
01:44:21.119 --> 01:44:29.000
cars. I'm not talking about recall. I didn't mention that. Okay,

1252
01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:31.439
what are then? Here's what I
want to know. I'm sorry, Leo,

1253
01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:35.439
I'm sorry. I don't understand the
reason for the call. Let's say

1254
01:44:35.439 --> 01:44:41.600
you're correct, and let's say there
has been a chronic problem and still is

1255
01:44:42.039 --> 01:44:45.399
on cars up to let's say year
two thousand. What should they do about

1256
01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:55.520
it? They came within two minutes
of killing my daughter all over, Leo,

1257
01:44:55.800 --> 01:44:59.920
I'm asking you a question. Leo, you're not answering the question.

1258
01:45:00.439 --> 01:45:11.920
If what you're saying is correct,
what should they do? Really, I'm

1259
01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:15.920
asking, I really am asking,
Leo. It took care. You can't

1260
01:45:16.039 --> 01:45:23.239
change the truth, you but I'm
Leo. Let's say you're telling the truth.

1261
01:45:23.880 --> 01:45:30.880
What can be done? General Motors
talk to me about Nerdy taking my

1262
01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:35.640
life, the life of my droughter. Okay, first of all, what

1263
01:45:35.760 --> 01:45:39.920
could have happened didn't happen. Okay, I'm sorry, and I'm glad it

1264
01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:45.319
didn't. There is absolutely no point
to that call. I'm sorry. Tell

1265
01:45:45.359 --> 01:45:50.239
me what you want? What do
you want? We have more coming up.

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01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:50.319
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01:46:56.640 --> 01:46:59.359
Welcome to the show. I want
to tell you, and we'll talk

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01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:01.800
to him in just a minute.
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about investing, we'll talk about Medicare, social security, also reverse loans and

1283
01:47:27.119 --> 01:47:29.119
the like. And we'll talk to
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1284
01:47:29.159 --> 01:47:31.479
go to Micky, who's been waiting, and of course anybody with any calls

1285
01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:35.600
on anything. Three oh three seven
to one to three talk three oh three

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01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:40.279
seven one three eight two five to
five Mickey, go ahead, Hi Tom

1287
01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:44.520
can you hear me? Hey,
what's going on? Okay? I've got

1288
01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:51.920
a social Security slash PRARA retirement question. My wife is krok okay on social

1289
01:47:53.000 --> 01:48:00.560
Security, has been for ten years, and she's also a Puro employee or

1290
01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:08.079
a chip cool public school employee who
is just retired, and she could take

1291
01:48:08.199 --> 01:48:13.560
a Peyerra retirement. Also, if
she does right, takes a two thirds

1292
01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:18.680
hit on her social security right.
Okay, if she doesn't take Peerra,

1293
01:48:19.800 --> 01:48:25.239
what happens? Could you just let
that pieri sit there and not take that

1294
01:48:25.359 --> 01:48:31.199
hit? You know what? I've
never even thought of that because normally it

1295
01:48:31.399 --> 01:48:35.079
benefits you to take the PARA and
the hit. So the question would be

1296
01:48:35.119 --> 01:48:40.840
why would you not? There is
what's called the windfall. There's called the

1297
01:48:40.920 --> 01:48:46.479
windfall elimination of provision. Okay.
That means that para who also receives Social

1298
01:48:46.520 --> 01:48:53.760
security, right, they do some
kind of formula yes, and the maximum

1299
01:48:53.960 --> 01:49:01.199
monthly reduction. However, is now
you what they do is you get a

1300
01:49:01.239 --> 01:49:06.560
maximum reduction from your para. It's
not I don't think it's your social security

1301
01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:12.199
that takes a hit. I think
it's your para. It's the social security

1302
01:49:12.239 --> 01:49:15.920
that takes the hit. All right, Okay, that's not what I'm reading.

1303
01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:19.800
Are you sure of that? Because
I mean it says, wait,

1304
01:49:19.840 --> 01:49:24.960
oh, hold on, your parent
benefit will not be reduced due to social

1305
01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:30.119
Security. I'm sorry. However,
there are some provisions depending on how much

1306
01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:34.279
you make. It says this applies
to PARA retirees who also receives Social Security

1307
01:49:34.279 --> 01:49:40.960
earned benefit. It says, the
windfall provision reduces You're right, your social

1308
01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:48.159
Security benefit based on a formula,
and in twenty twenty three, the maximum

1309
01:49:48.600 --> 01:49:56.520
the maximum reduction of your Social Security
is five hundred and fifty seven dollars or

1310
01:49:56.600 --> 01:50:04.760
one half of PARA. Well,
if she's according to Social Security who I

1311
01:50:04.800 --> 01:50:10.760
talked to, they told us that
she would take a sixty six percent,

1312
01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:16.159
yet two thirds offer social security.
Yeah, but how much does that in

1313
01:50:16.239 --> 01:50:23.840
dollars offer social offer social that?
Yeah? I'm asking what, I'm asking

1314
01:50:23.880 --> 01:50:29.199
what the what does the what?
What does the math add up to?

1315
01:50:29.279 --> 01:50:34.359
Does she actually get less doing the
PARA and the Social Security? She gets

1316
01:50:34.399 --> 01:50:39.880
the same amount, but she loses
two thirds to offer for social Security.

1317
01:50:40.199 --> 01:50:43.680
I understand. But when they add
them both together, it's essentially the same

1318
01:50:43.960 --> 01:50:48.000
benefit. It's essentially the same benefit. Yes, that's weird. Why would

1319
01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:53.279
they take I don't understand why if
you paid into Social Security they would ding

1320
01:50:53.399 --> 01:50:58.159
you like that. Yeah, we're
talking about the government here, I know.

1321
01:50:59.159 --> 01:51:04.520
Oh, let's see. There's another
hitchy in here also that currently,

1322
01:51:05.319 --> 01:51:12.760
if I die and she's not on
PARA, she can replace her Social Security

1323
01:51:12.840 --> 01:51:17.960
with mine. Okay. The way
now, the way that work. Okay,

1324
01:51:17.960 --> 01:51:23.159
it's called survivor's benefits, and it's
kind of like that. It's kind

1325
01:51:23.159 --> 01:51:27.359
of like that. What they do
is they take they take the survivor benefit

1326
01:51:27.479 --> 01:51:30.760
or her, and she'll get whatever's
more right, and mine is twice what

1327
01:51:30.800 --> 01:51:34.159
hers is, so she'll get more
with you. But no, no,

1328
01:51:34.239 --> 01:51:38.399
she won't get your whole benefit.
She's not going to get one percent of

1329
01:51:38.399 --> 01:51:43.239
your benefit. Oh, according to
Social Security, she does afore you talk

1330
01:51:43.319 --> 01:51:46.800
to them. My god, I
can't believe. Okay. First of all,

1331
01:51:46.920 --> 01:51:53.279
let me just answer this one question. According to the Parrot website,

1332
01:51:53.359 --> 01:51:58.840
you do not have to take PARA
okay, Okay, you can remain on

1333
01:51:58.880 --> 01:52:00.960
Social Security. They can't force you
to take it, and they can't reduce

1334
01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:09.159
your Social Security okay, And there's
no penalty or anything else because you didn't

1335
01:52:09.159 --> 01:52:13.000
take it. No, there's none, none that I can It says here

1336
01:52:13.399 --> 01:52:17.399
that parasocial security have their own eligibility
criteria. As long as you are are

1337
01:52:17.399 --> 01:52:21.680
fully invested in one, you don't
have to take the other. Okay,

1338
01:52:23.560 --> 01:52:28.279
and then the other thing is now
what I'm very interested though. Survivor benefits

1339
01:52:28.359 --> 01:52:34.880
have always befuddled me. And you're
saying that Social Security told you that you

1340
01:52:34.920 --> 01:52:40.600
could take that she gets all of
your benefit when you die, Yes,

1341
01:52:40.760 --> 01:52:45.439
as long as she's on social Security
and not parap. Yeah, but your

1342
01:52:45.560 --> 01:52:53.600
and your wife is on her own
social security correct, Okay, Okay,

1343
01:52:53.840 --> 01:52:56.119
we know what. I'm going to
find that out. I'm going to the

1344
01:52:56.159 --> 01:53:00.760
Social Security website because this is something
I go over and over, and I

1345
01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:04.439
was told you don't get one hundred
percent of your spouse's social there's a formula.

1346
01:53:04.680 --> 01:53:08.800
Yours goes up a little, but
it's not it doesn't equal the whole

1347
01:53:08.840 --> 01:53:14.720
thing. But but I'll find out. But that's not what that was told

1348
01:53:14.760 --> 01:53:23.439
face to face. In addition to
that, if I die and she gets

1349
01:53:23.479 --> 01:53:30.479
my social Security and she's also on
PARA, she takes a hit on my

1350
01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:33.800
social security, she won't get all
of my social security. She takes that

1351
01:53:34.039 --> 01:53:41.319
same two thor as hit. Okay, if your benefit is higher, she

1352
01:53:41.479 --> 01:53:46.640
can switch to the higher survivor benefit. Now listen, the survivor benefit is

1353
01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:53.560
generally again you're right, generally equal
to the full benefit you're receiving at the

1354
01:53:53.600 --> 01:53:59.960
time of your death. If your
wife starts receiving survivor benefits at full return

1355
01:54:00.439 --> 01:54:09.079
age, the benefit will be reduced. Okay, So like so in other

1356
01:54:09.079 --> 01:54:14.720
words, you it depends if she
was taking your benefit or not your benefit.

1357
01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:19.920
But it says here if your wife
starts receiving survivor benefits before her full

1358
01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:26.319
retirement age, so apparently she's allowed
to take it. But if she waits

1359
01:54:26.560 --> 01:54:30.600
to her full retirement age, she
will get one hundred percent of your benefit.

1360
01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:33.479
Does that make sense? Yes?
And she said, okay, we'll

1361
01:54:33.520 --> 01:54:41.960
beyond that. And if she does
take your benefit along with PARA, it

1362
01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:45.119
will be reduced with a formula.
Again, I don't know the exact formula,

1363
01:54:45.159 --> 01:54:48.800
but in other words, they're never
going to let you totally add them

1364
01:54:48.840 --> 01:54:57.920
up right, And I think the
formula comes out kind of to you having

1365
01:54:57.920 --> 01:55:00.720
the same benefit. I don't even
know why they do it, I swear

1366
01:55:00.760 --> 01:55:03.239
to you. The way it looks
here, the math The way the math

1367
01:55:03.319 --> 01:55:08.079
seems to be working out is that
they reduce it, so you end up

1368
01:55:08.079 --> 01:55:11.319
getting the same amount, but you
get it from two sources. How stupid

1369
01:55:11.439 --> 01:55:15.600
is that? Exactly? Man?
You're losing that amount on your Social Security

1370
01:55:15.920 --> 01:55:19.520
that you have worked for and put
in for all your life. That's what

1371
01:55:19.520 --> 01:55:21.880
it sounds like. Mike's got a
comment. Go ahead, Mike. What's

1372
01:55:21.880 --> 01:55:30.319
your comment? Mike? I thought
Mike said he had a comment on Mickey's

1373
01:55:30.359 --> 01:55:33.520
situation. Mike is there? Mike
still there? And now are you there?

1374
01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:36.880
Yes, Mike, I'm here,
Go ahead, sir. Yes,

1375
01:55:40.520 --> 01:55:46.479
what he's referring to. I was
a thirty year PARA employee inside business that

1376
01:55:46.640 --> 01:55:53.199
I paid Social Security into. So
when I retired from my parent job,

1377
01:55:53.560 --> 01:55:56.960
I had four options. I could
take all the cash out I put into

1378
01:55:57.039 --> 01:56:01.560
pair of I could take the benefit
pair at one, and when I died

1379
01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:06.199
it went away. The other option
is I could take a reduced benefit.

1380
01:56:06.439 --> 01:56:12.000
When I passed, my spouse got
half of that, and the other benefit

1381
01:56:12.279 --> 01:56:16.239
was if I took PARA at another
reduced rate. I passed, my wife

1382
01:56:16.279 --> 01:56:21.800
continued to get that same PARA amount
until her death. But unfortunately the Social

1383
01:56:21.800 --> 01:56:29.720
Security has what's called a windfall program. And right, so I paid in

1384
01:56:29.760 --> 01:56:33.920
to Medicare and Medicaid, but I
never paid in to Social Security through my

1385
01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:41.439
para job. So my social Security
was supposed to be eleven hundred dollars a

1386
01:56:41.520 --> 01:56:45.239
month. When they factored my Paara
retirement monthly account, that went down to

1387
01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:50.000
three hundred and fifty and that money
I will never get back that additional pair

1388
01:56:50.279 --> 01:56:55.119
or additional social security. Wow,
that's bad. Or to go to the

1389
01:56:55.119 --> 01:57:00.720
Social Security website and look up the
windfall program. That's how they explain that.

1390
01:57:01.880 --> 01:57:09.159
Okay, So does that make sense
to you, Mickey? Yes,

1391
01:57:09.359 --> 01:57:13.760
yeah, I knew all of that. My real all way question was if

1392
01:57:13.800 --> 01:57:18.760
she doesn't take her PARA retirement,
will social Security thing her for that in

1393
01:57:19.279 --> 01:57:26.880
some way, shape or form if
you contact If you contact Para, Parah

1394
01:57:27.840 --> 01:57:31.319
will hold that money for her.
It will continue to accrue interest and then

1395
01:57:31.399 --> 01:57:35.199
she can take that out of a
lump sum later. But I don't know

1396
01:57:35.239 --> 01:57:40.960
how that will affect social Security now. But Para's pretty good about speaking to

1397
01:57:41.039 --> 01:57:44.119
that very question. My wife was
in that situation. She had a part

1398
01:57:44.119 --> 01:57:46.720
time job at the library, left
the money in there, and she can

1399
01:57:46.760 --> 01:57:50.359
take that out and can now,
if you did not tell me this,

1400
01:57:50.920 --> 01:58:00.800
if you did not do a working
enough like for Social Security and only worked

1401
01:58:00.840 --> 01:58:05.000
as a teacher, then you don't
become You don't you don't become eligible at

1402
01:58:05.039 --> 01:58:11.119
all for social right. You just
have to depend on PARA. That is

1403
01:58:11.239 --> 01:58:15.640
correct. That is correct, and
PARA does give you a break. Since

1404
01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:19.359
I'm now retired and I have to
pay for Medicare, I can continue on

1405
01:58:19.600 --> 01:58:25.479
with the para insurance with the Medicare, or what I do now is I'm

1406
01:58:25.479 --> 01:58:30.760
on a supplement which is not the
Paracare, and my Social Security goes to

1407
01:58:30.800 --> 01:58:35.600
pay that one hundred and fifty dollars
a month or whatever. Okay, cool,

1408
01:58:36.520 --> 01:58:40.399
Thank you for the information we got. We got more coming up on

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the Troubleshooter Show. Three oh three
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01:59:09.600 --> 01:59:13.479
his only customer when you choose Frank
durand the real estate Man dot com to

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01:59:20.640 --> 01:59:26.600
All right, I want to talk
to Jordan Cano, part of the

1417
01:59:27.399 --> 01:59:32.720
My Moneymway dot com group. We're
having the seminar Thursday night. Jordan,

1418
01:59:32.800 --> 01:59:36.640
what can people expect and why should
they make an appointment? Who should make

1419
01:59:36.680 --> 01:59:41.920
an appointment? And again, there's
nothing to buy, nothing to pay for.

1420
01:59:42.079 --> 01:59:45.520
Everything is no obligation. Talk about
that, Jordan, You got it.

1421
01:59:45.600 --> 01:59:49.000
Yeah, we're gonna be having experts
not only in the financial arena,

1422
01:59:49.039 --> 01:59:53.439
which is not building just tax free
money and earning guarantees, but we have

1423
01:59:53.479 --> 01:59:57.479
people to do with tax benefits.
So we have a CPA, not only

1424
01:59:57.479 --> 02:00:00.479
our personal CPA, but he helps
our clients and they to help answer questions.

1425
02:00:00.520 --> 02:00:03.600
We have a mortgage specialist, and
of course social security, some of

1426
02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:06.159
those topics you guys were just talking
about a few minutes ago, and I

1427
02:00:06.199 --> 02:00:10.600
just want to add one piece.
You were talking about para R and D

1428
02:00:10.760 --> 02:00:14.359
kind of thing. Keep in mind
this is where the tax advisors are gonna

1429
02:00:14.359 --> 02:00:17.000
best in. But most para accounts
SUFFICIH in Florida, there are typically r

1430
02:00:17.039 --> 02:00:19.239
and gs that they have to take
almost like a four to one k.

1431
02:00:19.720 --> 02:00:24.760
So for that, gentleman, when
you talk about so security and para accounts,

1432
02:00:25.159 --> 02:00:30.640
at some point you can't just differ
forever. Okay, Now talk about

1433
02:00:30.920 --> 02:00:34.600
some of the things you'll be learning
tomorrow or will be learning. Well,

1434
02:00:34.680 --> 02:00:41.079
yeah, and it's going to be
going on having information for not only getting

1435
02:00:41.119 --> 02:00:43.920
out of debt. I mean we
tell people not only you can just pay

1436
02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:47.000
off your mortgages, and also credit
cards that we've been seeing people rack up

1437
02:00:47.039 --> 02:00:50.600
lately, it's going to be showing
people how to use it with their money

1438
02:00:50.760 --> 02:00:55.439
and keep earning interests instead of giving
away those banks or credit card companies.

1439
02:00:55.560 --> 02:00:59.720
That's just become the banker concept.
And then of course the guaranteed pension account.

1440
02:01:00.079 --> 02:01:02.520
This one tom it's earning money,
protecting your money, learning market crashes.

1441
02:01:02.760 --> 02:01:06.319
But the best part is you have
guaranteed floors that lock your cash in

1442
02:01:06.359 --> 02:01:11.239
every year so that you can't go
backwards. That is. Explain explain how

1443
02:01:11.279 --> 02:01:15.239
that works in real life? Yeah, real life I always equated to a

1444
02:01:15.239 --> 02:01:16.640
stairway. You know, when you
have money is going to go up.

1445
02:01:16.640 --> 02:01:20.600
When the market's up, and you
get to earn the participation of whatever the

1446
02:01:20.600 --> 02:01:25.039
market grows to. But the best
part is when it comes down with these

1447
02:01:25.039 --> 02:01:29.279
accounts, it's stays level. It's
it's like a stairway and go up sideways,

1448
02:01:29.359 --> 02:01:32.760
up sideways, so your account will
increase and anytimes market drops, the

1449
02:01:32.800 --> 02:01:36.079
lowest you can hit is zero percent. You can't go negative and you won't

1450
02:01:36.079 --> 02:01:44.319
go backwards. And then how does
that then turn into income? Like can

1451
02:01:44.359 --> 02:01:48.720
you do you set the date when
you open it or do you decide as

1452
02:01:48.760 --> 02:01:53.199
you're going on? In other words, what if I set a date and

1453
02:01:53.239 --> 02:01:57.920
it's farther out than I want it? Can you alter that date? You

1454
02:01:57.960 --> 02:02:00.119
can? You can, indeed,
And that's a great question. This is

1455
02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:02.760
what life's about. We're not you
know, we can plan for five years

1456
02:02:02.800 --> 02:02:05.640
out, ten years up, but
in reality it changes every year for everybody.

1457
02:02:05.720 --> 02:02:10.359
Right. So the point is is
with these accounts, they are fluid.

1458
02:02:10.399 --> 02:02:12.800
You can choose when it's with that
income on, you can choose to

1459
02:02:12.800 --> 02:02:15.119
if you need to take more.
When you have that income on, you

1460
02:02:15.119 --> 02:02:17.359
have the ability to take extra cash
out if you need to. And so

1461
02:02:17.600 --> 02:02:21.359
these are the way to have those
pension accounts like the good old day pensions.

1462
02:02:21.680 --> 02:02:27.640
But with more flexibility, more growth, and more protection. Okay,

1463
02:02:27.760 --> 02:02:32.840
so one of the things you guys
talk about from time to time are reverse

1464
02:02:32.920 --> 02:02:40.000
loans. Okay, now, how
have you seen people using reverse loans?

1465
02:02:40.279 --> 02:02:46.000
You know, I think they have
a definite place for certain situations. When

1466
02:02:46.039 --> 02:02:51.720
do you guys recommend them? You
know, I used to be pretty kind

1467
02:02:51.760 --> 02:02:56.760
of didn't think they were the best
benefit for that. It's changed our mind

1468
02:02:56.840 --> 02:02:59.680
completely. My mind changed. And
you're right, because we have our mortage

1469
02:02:59.680 --> 02:03:02.720
special ruth that will be there.
But it makes sense a lot of times,

1470
02:03:02.760 --> 02:03:05.359
I'll say, when you don't have
enough money, if you just have

1471
02:03:05.520 --> 02:03:10.880
some security in your entirement, if
you're widowed and you're not receiving the same

1472
02:03:10.880 --> 02:03:13.960
benefits you thought you were before because
the spouse passed away, maybe the pension

1473
02:03:14.000 --> 02:03:15.640
wasn't paying out like one hundred percent
like you guy were talking about earlier,

1474
02:03:15.800 --> 02:03:18.800
so nothing got to the widow.
Well, this is right. Reverse mortgage,

1475
02:03:18.840 --> 02:03:23.399
I would say, would make sense
because you can then be able to

1476
02:03:23.439 --> 02:03:26.840
remain in that location, your spouse
can remain in that location, whoever it

1477
02:03:26.920 --> 02:03:30.720
is, and not have to worry
about paying that mortgage payment if they didn't

1478
02:03:30.720 --> 02:03:33.239
pay the house off. That's one
way, and just another way would just

1479
02:03:33.239 --> 02:03:38.239
be able to have the ability to
still participate in getting some cash out.

1480
02:03:38.359 --> 02:03:41.800
A lot of times you still can
get money and live there. And if

1481
02:03:41.800 --> 02:03:45.039
the mortgage values continue to go up, I've been told you can all these

1482
02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:48.319
refinance and get more out. So
those reverse mortgages have places. But you're

1483
02:03:48.399 --> 02:03:53.079
right, it's time and place for
certain people. It just depends on the

1484
02:03:53.079 --> 02:04:00.760
situation. Okay, again, this
is going to be Thursday evening and all

1485
02:04:00.800 --> 02:04:03.359
people have to do is bring themselves
right. There's nothing to pay, nothing

1486
02:04:03.399 --> 02:04:06.000
to do, you got it,
nothing to be anyhing to new. You've

1487
02:04:06.039 --> 02:04:10.239
been there before, we've had standing
room only, and you've been in as

1488
02:04:10.239 --> 02:04:13.920
events. It gets exciting when people
start asking questions because everybody gets to talk

1489
02:04:14.159 --> 02:04:17.800
and we get to have the experts
like ourselves and the CPA and mortgage help

1490
02:04:17.880 --> 02:04:24.399
answer these questions for anybody free of
charge. All right, and again all

1491
02:04:24.439 --> 02:04:27.920
they have to do is call first
or go to my moneymway dot com three

1492
02:04:27.960 --> 02:04:32.760
oh three seven seven nine sixty six
hundred seven seven nine sixty six hundred.

1493
02:04:33.159 --> 02:04:38.520
I appreciate that. Now we'll be
back to Jordan, Deputy BO. I

1494
02:04:38.560 --> 02:04:43.439
want to bring I want to bring
this thing pissed me off earlier. Yes,

1495
02:04:43.680 --> 02:04:46.279
it was a car was towed.
Now, okay, so the car's

1496
02:04:46.319 --> 02:04:53.279
towed, but we find out it
was towed by a company called Tow Pros

1497
02:04:54.359 --> 02:04:57.960
and they don't have a license to
be in business, according to this woman

1498
02:04:58.039 --> 02:05:02.600
Hannah. And also they did damage
to her car and then sent it to

1499
02:05:02.640 --> 02:05:08.119
a body shop, and now they're
ghosting the body shop and they're not paying

1500
02:05:08.159 --> 02:05:11.720
for her rental. I mean,
this sounds like a pretty bad damn company.

1501
02:05:11.760 --> 02:05:15.039
What's going on with toe Pros?
Did you get a hold of them?

1502
02:05:15.159 --> 02:05:17.319
Yes, on a service. That
does sound bad, especially if they

1503
02:05:17.319 --> 02:05:21.520
don't have the license. But the
bottom line is the take care of Hannah.

1504
02:05:21.560 --> 02:05:27.439
So I did call over there,
talk to a person named Kelly at

1505
02:05:27.479 --> 02:05:31.239
toe Pros, told him the situation
who I was, and she said she'd

1506
02:05:31.239 --> 02:05:36.159
get the owner's wife, Melanie,
to call over to the body shop and

1507
02:05:36.319 --> 02:05:42.800
make a credit card payment so Hannah
could get the car. So I waited

1508
02:05:43.319 --> 02:05:48.159
to the next segment and called the
body shop, Terry's Auto Body. Talked

1509
02:05:48.199 --> 02:05:55.239
to the owner there and they did
pay the man they tendered over a credit

1510
02:05:55.279 --> 02:06:00.159
card. And I called Hannah and
she's on her way to pick up up

1511
02:06:00.159 --> 02:06:02.760
the car right now, So,
bro, that is wonderful. Hold on,

1512
02:06:02.920 --> 02:06:06.760
you know what you get right?
Okay? Oh no bell, No,

1513
02:06:06.880 --> 02:06:11.000
we don't call that. He don't
call that a bell. You get

1514
02:06:11.039 --> 02:06:13.760
my dinger? Man, Come on, Tom whipped out his dinger for you.

1515
02:06:13.800 --> 02:06:17.119
There, yeah, there it goes
again. That means I get to

1516
02:06:17.119 --> 02:06:19.960
come back later in the week.
Yes, you do, and we're gonna

1517
02:06:20.000 --> 02:06:26.359
double your pay as a volunteer.
As an unpaid volunteer, you get double.

1518
02:06:26.600 --> 02:06:30.199
And by the way, I have
another one too that'll take us to

1519
02:06:30.239 --> 02:06:32.600
break. It's the same dinger,
but it has some special for you.

1520
02:06:32.680 --> 02:06:43.840
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02:07:16.000 --> 02:07:24.520
two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi
Tom Martino, you're troubleshooter. Three oh

1528
02:07:24.640 --> 02:07:29.640
three seven one three talk three all
three seven one three eight two five five.

1529
02:07:30.079 --> 02:07:31.520
Okay, I want to go to
the phones, and I have a

1530
02:07:32.319 --> 02:07:39.520
Mike. Mike, what's going on? So I have a rental house right

1531
02:07:39.600 --> 02:07:43.560
now and the tenant in it is
my daughter and they want to buy the

1532
02:07:43.600 --> 02:07:46.560
house, and I'm wondering about doing
an owner financing and what's involved with that

1533
02:07:46.680 --> 02:07:50.279
and if it makes sense or what
now? Is the house paid for?

1534
02:07:53.000 --> 02:07:59.800
No, then you can't do an
owner finance. Well, okay, so

1535
02:08:00.079 --> 02:08:01.600
have to be paid off first?
Right? Well? Yeah, if you

1536
02:08:01.880 --> 02:08:07.239
if you want to finance a house
and you don't own it, you can't

1537
02:08:07.520 --> 02:08:11.159
have you can't sell it while you
have it loan on it. You would

1538
02:08:11.239 --> 02:08:16.239
it's against every loan I know if
you if you let that house out of

1539
02:08:16.279 --> 02:08:22.199
your possession, so it's truly could
trigger a do on sale clause, and

1540
02:08:22.399 --> 02:08:26.720
it's not a good idea. It's
very dangerous practice. Now what you could

1541
02:08:26.760 --> 02:08:31.680
do is also dangerous, but it's
your daughter. You could co sign the

1542
02:08:31.720 --> 02:08:39.880
loan and then just let her buy
it from you. What do you mean

1543
02:08:39.880 --> 02:08:43.159
by co sign the loan co signer
onto my Well, first of all,

1544
02:08:43.199 --> 02:08:46.600
why are you doing an owner finance? Can she qualify for a loan on

1545
02:08:46.640 --> 02:08:50.880
her own? Yes? Okay,
Then why would you suggest doing an owner

1546
02:08:50.920 --> 02:08:54.560
finance. I don't understand that.
If she can borrow money on her own,

1547
02:08:54.960 --> 02:08:58.319
why would you do an owner finance? What would be the benefit to

1548
02:08:58.359 --> 02:09:03.239
either of you? I don't want
another rental, and I don't want the

1549
02:09:03.279 --> 02:09:09.239
tax consequences. Well, hold on
a second, you're still going to get

1550
02:09:09.279 --> 02:09:13.720
tax consequences even if you finance it. They don't let you put off the

1551
02:09:13.960 --> 02:09:22.840
taxes. Huh okay, yeah,
Then I know you're thinking about an installment

1552
02:09:22.920 --> 02:09:26.359
sale. First of all, you
can't do an installment sale. And they

1553
02:09:26.359 --> 02:09:30.600
took the tax benefits out of installment
sales long ago. There's no way to

1554
02:09:30.640 --> 02:09:33.439
trick the government when you don't want
another rental. I get it, you

1555
02:09:33.479 --> 02:09:37.479
want to sell it. But when
you sell it, you're going to have

1556
02:09:37.560 --> 02:09:41.880
some gains. And because it's a
rental, have you been depreciating it?

1557
02:09:43.119 --> 02:09:48.760
No? More bad news? How
long have you owned it? Twenty years?

1558
02:09:50.159 --> 02:09:52.239
Okay? Let me tell you some
day. Let me tell you the

1559
02:09:52.279 --> 02:09:58.600
real problem you have. Okay,
the real serious problem that you have at

1560
02:09:58.600 --> 02:10:07.680
this point. You bought the house
for how much I don't remember. I

1561
02:10:07.680 --> 02:10:11.920
think there's about one hundred thousand left
on the loan. Well, okay,

1562
02:10:13.079 --> 02:10:18.199
for okay, let me explain something
to you. For every year you did

1563
02:10:18.239 --> 02:10:22.399
not depreciate that house, and for
the life of me, I don't know

1564
02:10:22.439 --> 02:10:28.600
why you did not do that.
If it was a rental moment initially you

1565
02:10:28.760 --> 02:10:33.079
or what keeping it as a second
home, Well, when did it convert

1566
02:10:33.079 --> 02:10:41.840
to a rental? Never did because
it's my daughter that's in there. Okay,

1567
02:10:43.359 --> 02:10:48.039
So it was never officially an income
property. It's a secondary home,

1568
02:10:48.119 --> 02:10:54.279
is that right? Okay? If
it wasn't held for investment, you're going

1569
02:10:54.319 --> 02:10:58.680
to escape this. But let me
tell you, under normal circumstances what this

1570
02:10:58.800 --> 02:11:05.279
means. If it was a rental, you would have been obligated to depreciate

1571
02:11:05.319 --> 02:11:11.520
it each year. Now there are
different depreciation schedules, but if you did

1572
02:11:11.520 --> 02:11:13.199
not depreciate it, a lot of
people feel, oh, I'm not going

1573
02:11:13.279 --> 02:11:18.359
to depreciate it, so I don't
lower my basis. The government will force

1574
02:11:18.399 --> 02:11:24.319
you to depreciate it even if you
never took that depreciation, and you'll have

1575
02:11:24.359 --> 02:11:26.479
a higher gain when you sell it, no matter what, no matter what.

1576
02:11:26.880 --> 02:11:31.119
If you had it for twenty years, your basis would be zero in

1577
02:11:31.159 --> 02:11:35.880
that house approximately right now, which
means every dime you make is long term

1578
02:11:35.920 --> 02:11:41.279
capital gain. Okay, that is
if it was a rental. If it's

1579
02:11:41.479 --> 02:11:46.079
not a rental and your daughters,
has your daughter been living in their free

1580
02:11:46.319 --> 02:11:56.239
No? Has she been paying you
rent she's been helping pay the mortgage.

1581
02:11:56.279 --> 02:12:07.399
Have you been declaring it as income. That's a good question. Have you

1582
02:12:07.479 --> 02:12:13.880
ever written any kind of expenses off
on that house as a rental? No?

1583
02:12:13.760 --> 02:12:18.239
Okay, here's what I'm gonna tell
you. It would be best if

1584
02:12:18.279 --> 02:12:22.079
it was just a second home.
Then they're not going to force you to

1585
02:12:22.159 --> 02:12:26.800
depreciate it. Okay, you're not
gonna have to depreciate it, but you're

1586
02:12:26.840 --> 02:12:33.479
gonna have to realize every penny above
what you bought that house for. And

1587
02:12:33.520 --> 02:12:37.079
now you're allowed to add to that
basis. If you did any permanent improvements,

1588
02:12:37.479 --> 02:12:41.920
you can add to that basis.
Okay, and then and then that

1589
02:12:43.000 --> 02:12:46.039
will be your basis. So let's
say, do you have any idea what

1590
02:12:46.079 --> 02:12:52.000
the purchase price was back then?
Any idea at all about one hundred and

1591
02:12:52.000 --> 02:12:56.720
sixty Let's say one hundred and sixty
thousand, and let's say over the years

1592
02:12:56.760 --> 02:13:01.800
you put forty into it, okay, in not in interest or not in

1593
02:13:03.840 --> 02:13:09.800
minor stuff. I'm talking about in
capital improvements. If you did, just

1594
02:13:09.840 --> 02:13:13.479
to make numbers easy, your basis
would be two hundred thousand, What will

1595
02:13:13.520 --> 02:13:22.840
it sell for for forty four forty? Okay? Now were you hoping?

1596
02:13:24.800 --> 02:13:28.920
Because then what you're gonna have is
two forty minus any commissions or expenses you're

1597
02:13:28.960 --> 02:13:33.079
gonna have. That's gonna be ordinary
enuctions, not ordinary. That's gonna be

1598
02:13:33.119 --> 02:13:37.399
long term capital gain. What's your
income other than that capital gain? What's

1599
02:13:37.399 --> 02:13:43.119
your income retired? Okay? So
you're gonna have some capital gains to pay.

1600
02:13:43.159 --> 02:13:48.880
Okay, you're gonna have capital gains
tax to pay. And the worst

1601
02:13:48.880 --> 02:13:52.199
case scenario, the worst case is
going to be twenty five percent. That's

1602
02:13:52.239 --> 02:13:58.840
statement and federal. Okay. So
if you make two hundred, let's say,

1603
02:13:58.960 --> 02:14:01.920
or two forty, then do the
math. You're going to have to

1604
02:14:01.920 --> 02:14:05.199
pay the rest of that to the
government. There's no there's no way around

1605
02:14:05.239 --> 02:14:07.920
it. There's just I mean,
you can try, but there's no way

1606
02:14:07.960 --> 02:14:11.840
around it. So if you sold
it for if you sold it for two

1607
02:14:11.920 --> 02:14:16.359
forty You're going to subtract excuse me, not two forty whatever you're going to

1608
02:14:16.399 --> 02:14:18.720
make, Let's say two forty in
your in your gain. If you make

1609
02:14:18.760 --> 02:14:24.000
two forty in your gain, you're
going to have about sixty thousand to paying

1610
02:14:24.119 --> 02:14:30.279
taxes. Ohly crap. And you're
not going to get it. I mean,

1611
02:14:30.359 --> 02:14:31.800
I know people think they can get
it right with it, but you're

1612
02:14:31.800 --> 02:14:35.439
not. You're not going to get
out of it. Okay. You know

1613
02:14:35.119 --> 02:14:39.720
you can do a ten thirty one
into another rental, but you don't want

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02:14:39.760 --> 02:14:41.720
another income. Now, let me
ask you something. What were you going

1615
02:14:41.800 --> 02:14:46.079
to Were you hoping to get money
or to just help your daughter with a

1616
02:14:46.159 --> 02:14:50.680
house? What do you mean?
Well, when you sell it to her,

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02:14:50.960 --> 02:14:54.319
did you want to make money?
Were you going to do something with

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02:14:54.359 --> 02:15:00.479
the money? Were you selling it
to her when you I want to sell

1619
02:15:00.479 --> 02:15:03.199
it to her. Were you going
to sell it to her for market value?

1620
02:15:05.960 --> 02:15:07.359
Not quite? I mean, I'm
gonna give her, you know,

1621
02:15:07.479 --> 02:15:11.439
a discount on it. Okay,
So you did want money, here's what

1622
02:15:11.600 --> 02:15:15.920
Let me let me get right to
the reason I'm asking. If you did

1623
02:15:15.960 --> 02:15:18.880
not want to get money out of
it, and you simply want to help

1624
02:15:18.920 --> 02:15:20.840
your daughter. You could gift her
the house, then there would be no

1625
02:15:20.960 --> 02:15:28.560
taxes to either of you. But
you can't gift her the house. If

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02:15:28.640 --> 02:15:31.920
you want to get money out of
it, you need to sell it to

1627
02:15:31.960 --> 02:15:35.600
her, and she needs to go
and get a loan. But there's no

1628
02:15:35.760 --> 02:15:39.640
benefit for you carrying the paper.
It's not going to save you on taxes,

1629
02:15:39.680 --> 02:15:43.640
all right. So, so I
know you're going to have people tell

1630
02:15:43.680 --> 02:15:46.840
you otherwise, and you're gonna get
in trouble if you listen to them.

1631
02:15:48.119 --> 02:15:52.439
Okay, So I'm telling you the
real way to do this is to sell

1632
02:15:52.439 --> 02:15:56.680
it, have her get her own
loan, and pay your taxes. That's

1633
02:15:56.720 --> 02:15:58.840
the true way to do it.
I mean, you know, other than

1634
02:15:58.880 --> 02:16:03.760
that, at it's going to be
hocus pocus and that's not what you want.

1635
02:16:03.760 --> 02:16:07.000
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02:16:35.239 --> 02:16:39.760
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1643
02:16:39.760 --> 02:16:43.639
to hesitate here. Let's go to
Frank. Frank. What's going on,

1644
02:16:43.680 --> 02:16:48.120
sir? Hello Frank? Say Tom, you've mentioned the Colorado Motor Repair Act.

1645
02:16:48.600 --> 02:16:52.079
Yeah, the Auto Repair Act,
right, Yeah, to give estimates,

1646
02:16:52.159 --> 02:16:56.040
get consent from the customer to make
Yeah. What it says is this,

1647
02:16:56.159 --> 02:17:01.079
basically, if you drop your car
off. First of all, if

1648
02:17:01.120 --> 02:17:03.840
it's after hours, they don't have
to do it by writing. They can

1649
02:17:03.879 --> 02:17:07.200
call you, but they can charge
you up to one hundred and twenty five

1650
02:17:07.239 --> 02:17:11.280
bucks. If it's going to be
beyond that, they have to get your

1651
02:17:11.319 --> 02:17:16.600
consent. And if you drop your
car off like during normal business hours,

1652
02:17:16.959 --> 02:17:22.319
the estimate has to be in writing, and any changes that will be more

1653
02:17:22.360 --> 02:17:26.479
than twenty I believe ten percent more
or more than that, they have to

1654
02:17:26.520 --> 02:17:31.159
get your approval. Okay, Tom. The Act permits customers to waive the

1655
02:17:31.280 --> 02:17:35.920
right to receive an estimate. I
don't know if they do. I don't

1656
02:17:35.920 --> 02:17:37.680
actually I don't know that. I
mean, maybe it does. I think

1657
02:17:37.799 --> 02:17:41.920
it's been a long time since I
read it. Yeah. Well, anyway,

1658
02:17:43.000 --> 02:17:46.559
my repair shop is a new owner. The requests that I waive those

1659
02:17:46.680 --> 02:17:52.840
rights. Oh okay, what do
you think? Well, I would never

1660
02:17:52.879 --> 02:17:56.680
wave it. Yeah, that's what
I thought. I thought it was kind

1661
02:17:56.680 --> 02:18:01.520
of it's buried in a long list
of things that they want us to approve

1662
02:18:01.000 --> 02:18:05.479
before we start using them. Well, I mean, I'm not saying that

1663
02:18:05.600 --> 02:18:13.399
automatically makes them guilty, but let's
see you actually actually hold on a second.

1664
02:18:13.520 --> 02:18:22.440
Under the actual act itself, you
cannot wave your right. Oh.

1665
02:18:22.159 --> 02:18:28.559
I have read it in the identify
specific language that the customer can use to

1666
02:18:28.600 --> 02:18:35.079
wave their rights. Well, the
customer can do it. The customer can

1667
02:18:35.120 --> 02:18:39.360
say I don't want a written okay, but you can't do it in their

1668
02:18:39.399 --> 02:18:46.840
contract. Look, well they they
asked that, Okay, you can sign

1669
02:18:46.000 --> 02:18:50.280
Okay, you have to technically initiate
it. I'm not going to split hairs

1670
02:18:50.280 --> 02:18:54.040
with you. There are exceptions.
Yes, you can sign your rights away,

1671
02:18:54.120 --> 02:19:00.879
Yes you can, yes, okay, okay, but but why would

1672
02:19:00.959 --> 02:19:03.799
you do that? Exactly? That's
what I was looking for. I don't

1673
02:19:03.799 --> 02:19:09.200
see any advantage to me doing it. Well, I don't even know why

1674
02:19:09.200 --> 02:19:13.079
they're asking you to. I don't
like the idea at all. So there's

1675
02:19:13.120 --> 02:19:18.440
some right now. What they may
not want to do is get stuck with

1676
02:19:18.520 --> 02:19:22.399
a car that they can't work on. That's why they should give you an

1677
02:19:22.399 --> 02:19:26.200
initial one up front that'll cover their
ass and then on the off chance it's

1678
02:19:26.280 --> 02:19:31.360
more, that's what they should do. I got to go on to hold

1679
02:19:31.399 --> 02:19:33.200
on a second, Ernie, you
have a comment on housing purchase. Go

1680
02:19:33.239 --> 02:19:37.600
ahead, Ernie, Yes, can
you hear me? Okay, yes,

1681
02:19:37.639 --> 02:19:41.399
sir, go ahead, Yeah,
just coming on the gentleman that called in

1682
02:19:41.440 --> 02:19:45.879
and telling the house to his daughter. Yes, Tom, is it possible

1683
02:19:45.920 --> 02:19:48.680
that this gentleman, well, just
because ardn't say was retired, But do

1684
02:19:50.079 --> 02:19:52.239
take out a reverse mortgage? He
catches out? I think you said.

1685
02:19:52.319 --> 02:19:56.440
Helster works like four hundred and he's
got three twenty pays off his old house.

1686
02:19:56.520 --> 02:20:00.959
He's got two hundred and something.
Yeah, but he he can't take

1687
02:20:01.000 --> 02:20:05.239
a reverse loan out on a home
that's not his primary residents, that he's

1688
02:20:05.280 --> 02:20:07.959
not living in. That's the problem. By the way, I'm running out

1689
02:20:07.000 --> 02:20:11.200
of time. Let me let me
give this out real quick call for your

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