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Welcome to our final show before the
All Star Break ends. We have phone

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lines open tonight. I promised phone
calls after heavy interviews the previous three nights.

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David Vasse with you here on a
five to seventy LA Sports until eight

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o'clock tonight. Phone lines open at
eight six six nine, eight seven two

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five seventy and coming up at the
bottom of the hour. We do have

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a surprise guest that was a late
addition to the show, and that is

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rookie right hander Justin Robleski. Justin
Robleski will join us at seven thirty tonight,

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so we'll hear from a man that
is going to start the second game

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of the post All Star break schedule
for the Dodgers. We got news today

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that the Dodgers have lined up their
first three starters for this series against the

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Red Sox. It will be Gavin
Stone tomorrow night in the opener of the

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three games series, then Justin Robleski
on Saturday, and on Sunday it will

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be James Paxton. And you may
say James Paxton, Yeah, James Paxton,

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who is one of the few veterans
that is still standing at this point

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in time in the Dodger rotation with
Glass now still on the il, Yamamoto

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still not certain when he is coming
back, Bobby Miller down in Oklahoma City.

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So these are the three guys the
Dodgers have to come out of the

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All Star break. And James Paxton, by the way, is really good

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at Dodger Stadium this season. He's
three and zero with an ERA of two

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sixty seven, while on the road
is ERA is closer to six. So

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James Paxton a much better pitcher at
Dodger Stadium. Well rested, as is

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the entire Dodger pitching staff after having
four days off after what was a very

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disappointing and frustrated finish to the first
half for the Dodgers, where they finished

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one in six on their six game
road trip to Philadelphia and Detroit. We

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don't have to go all the way
back there, but yeah, the Dodgers

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limped into the All Star Break with
that one and six record, and since

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May twenty first, the Dodgers are
a game under five hundred, twenty three

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and twenty four, so they're looking
to take advantage of this All Star break

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reset for a few guys like keik
A, Hernandez and Chris Taylor. This

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is their time of the year,
the stretch run, and we all know

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October is Keik and Chris Taylor's month, and they need to start to get

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momentum heading into the postseason. I
will say this, I will flip the

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script tonight with all the panic and
the negativity surrounding the Dodgers play on the

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last road trip, and since the
middle may consider this, with all the

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injuries the Dodgers have had to deal
with to their pitching staff, to Mookie

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Betts and Max Munsey, We'll get
to Munsey in the next segment. They

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still have a seven game lead in
the lost column over the Arizona Diamondbacks and

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an eight game lead in the lost
column over the San Diego Padres. The

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Diamondbacks have leapfrog the Padres for second
place in the NL West, and I

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mentioned this during the last road trip. I thought the Padres blew a golden

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opportunity to make up ground in the
division with the Dodgers struggling as much as

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they have been lately. But the
Padres themselves have been struggling lately as well,

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so it's been the Diamondbacks who have
leapfrog the Padres. For second place

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in the division, and it feels
like between the Giants, the Padres,

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and the Snakes, they've all been
taking turns but really not making up a

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lot of ground for whomever has been
in that second place position since the Dodgers

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have been playing basically five hundred ball
since May twenty first. If you go

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back to when the Dodgers had thirty
wins on May twenty first, they still

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had a seven and a half game
lead in second place over the Padres.

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You look at the way they stumbled
into the All Star break, here they

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are still with a seven game lead. And if you believe Fangrafts, who

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does a lot of dissecting of schedules
and statistical analysis, the Dodgers have one

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of the softer schedules in the second
half of the season. And if you

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look at their schedule when it came
out, and we'll get into next year's

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schedule, even though I don't really
care about twenty twenty five. Right now,

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the Dodgers are in a dogfight to
a certain extent, and trying to

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get into the postseason and trying to
win the World Series. This year very

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odd time for Baseball to put out
the schedule right in the middle of the

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season. But anyway, we could
get to the schedule later if you care

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about it. But the Dodgers are
opening up in Tokyo next year after opening

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up in South Korea this year.
So two games against the Cubs in Tokyo

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next year, which is significant because
that's two straight years the Dodgers will have

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to start spring training early, and
two straight years they will start the season

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not in North America. Anyway,
going back to all this in twenty twenty

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four, the Dodgers are in a
pretty good spot considering they have already played

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the tough part of their schedule with
a lot of travel, a lot of

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trips to the East Coast, and
now they have a lot more days off

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in between. The travel is not
as extensive as it was, and you're

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going to get Tyler Glass now back, no doubt about that. Do have

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doubts about Yoshi Yamamoto because there seems
to be a veil of secrecy surrounding the

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extent of his injury and what is
going to happen with him the rest of

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the year. Somehow, I feel
like all that will come out after the

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trade deadline. But nonetheless, you
look at the Dodger schedule the rest of

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the way, and their only trip
to the East Coast is in September when

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they play four games and three against
the Marlins, so the schedule is definitely

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in their favor. It does start
out tough here right out of the All

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Star Break, with seven games at
home against the Red Sox, the surprise

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team in Major League Baseball they are
the last wildcard team currently in the American

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League. And then four games against
the Giants, who all of a sudden

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are getting their pitching healthy. And
in case you missed it, snell Zilla,

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in his last start before the All
Star Break, had a perfect game

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in the seventh inning and the Giants
blew it and lost that game. But

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nonetheless, Nelzilla is back, and
we all know how well he pitches a

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against the Dodgers and b at Dodgers
Stadium. Eight six six nine eight seven

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two five seventy is the phone number
mentioning Key a Hernandez and Chris Taylor,

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who do you believe needed the All
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Eight six six nine eight seven two
five seventy. It's going to be

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fun to have the Red Sox in
town. It's always electric when you have

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the Yankees or Red Sox at Dodgers
Stadium, and it's even better when those

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teams are good, and Boston is
a very good team. It's going to

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be great to have Kenley Jansen,
the all time Dodgers saves leader, back

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at Dodgers Stadium. He has had
a tremendous year with Boston. He hasn't

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been back to Dodger Stadium in a
couple of years, and when he was

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back, he was with the Atlanta
Braves. It's also going to be fun

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to have Alex Kora back at Dodger
Stadium, not only because he was part

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of the best double play combination defensively
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with CAESARUS Tourists, but Adrian Beltray, his former teammate and Dave Roberts' former

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teammate, is going to be inducted
into the Hall of Fame this weekend.

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So it'll be great to have Alex
back at Dodger Stadium with Dave Roberts and

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to celebrate Adrian going into Cooperstown.
And I even exchanged texts with Sean Green

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today. Sean Green was on his
way to New York to be part of

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the ceremony or being attendance for the
ceremony. So that twenty fourteen was a

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pretty tight team. And Sean Green
and Adrian Beltray, Alex Corra, CAESARUS

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Tourists, Dave Roberts, all those
guys certainly still have a bond, even

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though they came up short that year, and Dave was traded unceremoniously by Paul

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D. Podesta at the trade deadline
that year. But nonetheless, the Rodgers

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got to the playoffs in four and
actually one at that time, the first

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playoff game since Game five of the
nineteen eighty eight World Series in Dodger history.

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So that's how thin things were since
eighty eight. But it feels like

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a different world, feels like a
different organization from when Adrian Beltra got called

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up at nineteen years old by then
interim manager Tommy Losorda. How about that

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eight six six, nine eighty seven, two five seventy is the phone number?

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When we continue here on Dodger Talk, we'll get you an update on

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Max Munsey, Clayton Kershaw, Joe
Kelly, and where is Walker Buehler.

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If you're in Florida and you've seen
Walker Buehler. Please call in eight six

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six nine, eight seven two five
seventy Off day Dodger Talk heading into the

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second half right here on AM five
seventy LA Sports. David Vasse with you

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until eight o'clock tonight here on AM
five to seventy LA Sports. We've had

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a great All Star break of shows. Want to say thank you to all

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the guys that came on the last
three nights, starting with John Smoltz Buster.

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Only people have been getting on me
for the way I pronounced Buster's last

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name. So thank you to Buster. Thank you to Jake Peevey. Thank

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you to America's pitcher Rich Hill,
who joined us last night. You heard

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the full conversation. And look,
rich Hill is not the savior for any

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team out there. Don't get anything
twisted here, but Rich Hill can bolster

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a pitching staff, especially with teams
that need some link out of their bullpen.

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Rich is forty four years old.
He's not going nine innings, even

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though he probably thinks he could.
I mean, he called me yesterday and

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woke me up at seven thirty in
the morning on his way to or on

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the way back from throwing a one
hundred pitch bullpen session somewhere out there in

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New England, so he is fired
up and ready to go, and coming

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up at the bottom of the hour, we will hear from twenty four year

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old Justin Robleski, who is starting
Saturday at Dodgers Stadium against the Boston Red

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Sox. Let's go out to the
phones, Frank and garden Grove. You're

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on Dodger Talk. How you doing, Frank, I'm doing great. How

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are you, Dave tremendous? Ready
for the second half to start? Ready

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for the stretch run A man?
Hey, I wanted to get your take

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on all the extra rest that the
Dodgers are giving their pitchers, because I'm

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wondering if it works. So a
lot has been made about how they're giving

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five and six days rest to these
starters. Glass note, for example,

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pitched on back to back Sundays,
including one where we went twee and last

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Now has only pitched on four days
rest once. And you know what the

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difference is, Frank. The Dodgers
have number one, the depth to be

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able to do that, and number
two, they're taking care of the pitchers

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because Glass now is coming off career
highs and starts an innings and you look

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at what the White Socks have done
with Garrett Crochet. They have pitched Crochet,

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I believe, eleven times on four
days rest for a guy that only

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threw twenty five innings last year.
And that's part of the problem now for

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teams that want to trade for Crochet
and just overall for him personally. The

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White Socks really haven't taken great care
of Crochet this year. Okay, But

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that's the deeper part of my question, Dave. Because Cloche is healthy,

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Glass knows on the IL, Yamamota's
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Dustin May is on the IL.
Okay, well, hold Donslin's on

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the IL. Bobby Miller got hurt. So what I'm asking is no,

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no hold on, hold on,
Let's go back to Glass now. Number

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one. He said at the All
Star weekend that if he needed to pitch,

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he could pitch, but the Dodgers
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Dustin May, Yeah, I don't
know, David. I'm just saying you

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can't just throw it all in one
bucket. Frank, there's different reasons for

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why different pictures have gotten hurt.
I get that vote, and I'm asking

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the principle of does more rest lead
to healthier pictures and isn't. One of

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the reasons I ask is when Otani
was an Angel a couple of years ago,

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before it was clear how great he
was, you made the point that

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one of the things, one of
the costs of having Otani in the rotation

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is that you could only pitch once
a week, and it throws all the

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other pictures off their schedule. Some
pictures like more rest, some don't.

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And I think there's a case to
be made that you sacrifice command when you

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pitch so infrequently, and there's a
cost that you pitch your best pictures less

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if you're giving everybody more rest.
So the payoff has got to be okay,

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But these guys are going to be
healthy when we need them. But

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if they're not going to be healthy
when you need them, what's the payoff?

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So what's the proof that extra rest
actually leads to healthy pitchers? Because

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I don't see it on the Dodgers
this year or last. No, there

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is no proof. And I think
if you spoke to Andrew Friedman or Brandon

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Gomes or anybody in baseball, there
is no exact science to how to keep

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pitchers healthy these days. But I
do agree with you, Frank. A

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lot of pitchers are creatures of habit
and they want a five day routine.

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And the one thing I could say
is the Dodgers have given some semblance of

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consistency to all the pitchers in their
rotation. It's not like they're going from

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four days rest to five days rest, back to four days rest. It's

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been pretty consistent since the beginning of
the season that you're pitching on five days

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rest. So it feels like guys
have gotten used to that. And let's

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not forget, Frank, the Dodgers
pitchers and catchers and team reported to spring

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training before any other team in Major
League Baseball this year. Don't discount that

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fact either. Now it's fair enough. I just think it's interesting that for

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thirty forty years, pictures pitched on
four days rest all the time, and

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I'm not sure you could say that
those pictures were getting hurt more than the

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ones in the modern day. So
it's an interesting question. Thank you,

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Thank you, Frank, appreciate it. Well, if you go back forty

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to fifty years, there used to
be only a four man rotation and then

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all of a sudden it turned into
a five man rotation in the late mid

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eighties, and now we're at a
five man rotation, and now we're giving

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pitchers five days rest. So there's
an evolution to things. But really I

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go back to what Sandy Kofax always
preached, and he not only was a

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great pitcher but also a great student
of biomechanics and pitching. And he used

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the analogy if you are a marathon
runner, are you going to train for

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the marathon by running sprints leading up
to the marathon or are you going to

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run long distance? Similar to pitcher. If you're a starting pitcher and you're

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going to be pitching a lot,
don't you want to throw more to get

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your arm conditioned to that? So
I'm not one to argue with Sandy Kofax,

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who has They talk about coaching trees. Sandy Kofax has a coaching tree

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as well that goes back to when
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Guys like Johnny Padres, guys like
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Rick Honeycut, Claude Ostein all those
people are part of the Kofax pitching tree,

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coaching tree, and Oral Herscheizer is
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to argue with Sandy Kofax, and
it makes a lot of sense. Let's

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go out to Whittier, Tony.
You're on Dodger Talk. How you doing,

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Tony? Hey, what's up?
Dave? Have a going tremendous I

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have a question. This might be
off topic, but I'm in the minority

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where I don't want to see a
tiny pitch aside from obviously him BEINGDH is

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there a possibility he can ever play
the outfield. I'm sure he can.

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I'm just wondering if I'm an advocate
for that, Tony, because there are

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no guarantees. I mean, O'tani
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you will ever see, so I'm
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And he is a big physical guy
as well. So if there is one

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guy that can do what Nathan Valdi
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surgeries, it's show. Hey,
Otani. We can't pretend like it's not

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a risk that he won't re injure
his pitching elbow. And if he does

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that, then he's lost as a
hitter as well. You lose him for

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the entire season. He wants to
try it again. So the Dodgers are

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going to, you know, go
along with this to allow him to pitch

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again, but most people expect in
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pitching anymore. Yeah, I really
don't want to see it. I'd rather

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just see him maybe just play dher
just maybe roam the outfield. I'm just

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not I just don't have a good
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In my opinion, is his future
after pitching is done with. That's

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another possibility I was also thinking of
thinking of also, Dave, I just

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want to ask you one quick question. Back in ninety one, when the

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Dodgers blew that division lead, do
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Braves in the NLCS. Well,
they wouldn't have played the Braves in the

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NLCS. They would have played the
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they would have beat the Pirates.
They were a better team than the Pirates

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and there would not have been a
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Trust me, that season still hurts. Well, thanks for taking my call,

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Dave. I appreciate it. Hey, thank you, Tony, appreciate

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it. Yeah, if you remember
in nineteen ninety one, and John Smoltz

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and I talked about it a couple
of nights ago. The Dodgers had a

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seven game actually five or seven game
lead over the second place Reds in the

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Atlanta Braves at the All Star Break
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and they came back to win the
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final day of the regular season,
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forgot where Atlanta was. And the
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All Star Break with a very talented
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Darryl Strawberry, Oral Herscheizer, Ramon
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of how talented they were. And
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Baseball is a strange game. There
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talk about October, when we get
to October, we have to line our

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team up for October. How about
get to October first, and how about

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securing the second seed in the National
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the playoffs, because when you look
at the new playoff format, which is

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much different than what it was even
in nineteen ninety one. It's important to

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have one of the two seeds so
you don't have to play that best of

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three wildcard series against probably a very
hot wildcard team. And the Dodgers right

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now are just a game ahead of
the Brewers in the lost column for the

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number two seed in the National League
playoff picture. So don't just worry about

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the division. Worry about that as
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Eight six six nine eight seven two
five seventy is the phone number.

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Part of the reason why the Dodgers
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team since May twenty first is because
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whole host of pitchers and also now
Mookie Betts, who is hoping to return

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by the second week of August.
And we've heard Max Munsey is getting closer,

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then we hear Max Munsey has been
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Munsey is swinging, then we hear
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Max Munsey joined the Foul Territory podcast
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is. Uh No, it's definitely
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a you know, we've been trying
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know, I've tried several times to
start ramping things up. It's more for

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me, it's more my body just
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lot of the treatments that we've been
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know, we can't necessarily figure out
why that is. You know, I've

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gone in and done testing multiple times, gotten a whole bunch of scans and

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images, and uh, you know, we've just really struggled to kind of

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put our finger on what's been going
on. And you know, that's its

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wise. It has been taking longer
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there's Max Munsey on the Foul Territory
podcast. It feels like what did Max

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Munsey do? Too much? Kind
of like how he originally injured his oblique

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trying to swing too hard during batting
practice. Very concerning for the Dodger and

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what does that mean for the trade
deadline? Do the Dodgers need to consider

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a third baseman? I saw a
report today that the Rays may be considering

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training Isaac Peretti's as well. He's
having a great year at third base for

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Tampa Bay. The Dodgers have obviously
made big trades with the Rays. Do

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the Dodgers now have to consider not
only starting pitching, but also a third

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baseman, because, frankly, the
three guys that have been rotating their at

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third base have not gotten the job
done offensively, Keick a Hernandez, Cavin

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Bigio and Chris Taylor. Do the
Dodgers now start to consider trading for a

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third baseman with the uncertainty of Max
Munsey returning, And when Max Mounsey returns,

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what version of Max Munsey will the
Dodgers get? Eight six six seven

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two five seventy is the phone number. We're gonna take a time out here

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our final time. I'm out on
Dodger Talk. We have two lines open.

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We will take your phone calls.
But first we are going to be

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joined by rookie right hander Justin Robleski, who is going to be making his

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third Major League start on Saturday at
Dodgers Stadium. He will join us next

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right here on Dodger Talk on five
to seventy LA Sports. The Dodgers are

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back in action tomorrow night at Dodgers
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with first pitch at seven ten Between
the Dodgers and Boston Red Sox. Gavin

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Stone will be on the mound for
the Dodgers, and on Saturday afternoon,

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evening twilight, our guest will be
on the mound for his third Major League

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start. A man that certainly has
burst onto the scene and has made his

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name be known in the City of
Angels, and that is the one and

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only Justin Robleski. Justin, Thanks
a lot for the time, appreciate it.

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Yeah, yeah, no, no
worries. Hey, let's just get

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this out of the way right now. I've heard people refer to you as

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Robo. I'm not in with that
nickname. I'm not sure if you're in

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with that nickname. Can you just
set the record straight. If you want

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people to stop referring to as Robo, we can make that happen right now,

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you know what. So when I
was in when I was in fourth

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grade, when I was in fourth
grade, fourth grade, oh yeah,

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that's when that's when it started.
And then kind of just my whole life,

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everyone's called me that. So I've
kind of grown into it and I

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kind of like it. So that's
that's what we're gonna stick with, all

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right, all right, I was
hoping you would say you hate it.

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No, it's it's it's kind of
just like it's me now, you know

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what I mean. At this point, I've written with it for so long

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and it's kind of just who I
am. I mean, I look at

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your name. I don't see Robo
anywhere in this name. It's just it's

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just because Robleski and I's for whatever
reason, just Robo. That's just what

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it was. So win a W
in the front though not Robo. It's

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Wrbo. Yeah, and maybe that's
why the fourth graders there just went with

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robo right right there. Yeah,
W Yeah. Easier to say, hey,

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justin I know you're in the big
leagues right now, but man,

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you are an underdog story. You
were an eleventh round pick in twenty twenty

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one. You were the three hundred
and forty second overall pick that year.

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Do you feel like you're an underdog
story? I would say yeah, but

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kind of had a lot of unfortunate
things happened in my college career that kind

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of, I guess, not derailed, but just kind of made my path

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different than a lot of other people's. So I've always kind of felt,

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you know, that's kind of a
chip on my shoulder, like they don't

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think I can, so I will. I think that's just kind of who

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I am. But yeah, it's
I would say I'm an underdog, but

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I would say I've never I've never
viewed myself as like lesser than I guess

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if that makes sense. I've always
had confidence. Yeah, no doubt.

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I saw that at Dodger Stadium.
You really had mound presence for a guy

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that was making his major league debut. Where does that come from? I

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think I think it just kind of
falls back on my preparation, just kind

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of I don't know, I guess
just who I am as a person,

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Like if I if I feel prepared, I think, you know, I

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can compete with with anybody. So
I guess that's where it comes from.

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It's just I guess slowly been built
up over time. But it's it's just

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kind of I don't know. That's
a good question. But I'd say it's

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just something I've slowly built over time. Hey, I guess if you feel

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like you're prepared, you have that
confidence. If you're not prepared, that's

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when you're nervous, Right, I
actually did some homework on you real I

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actually text your triple a manager,
Travis Barbery, and asked him what he

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thought about Justin Robleski. You want
to hear what he had to tell me.

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If they were good things? Yeah, they were good things. And

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it goes back to preparation. He
said. The biggest thing that stood out

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to him is how detailed your pre
start preparation is and the homework you do

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on the lineup that you're going to
face. And I'm sure when you were

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in that hotel room before you made
your major league debut against the Brewers,

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you were doing a lot of studying. So did I interrupt the preparation for

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the Red Sox? Uh? No, that's that's already been. I mean,

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there's already been a lot of that
that's done already. Obviously I'm gonna

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go probably going tomorrow and look at
a few more things. But yeah,

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it's I kind of I try to
do it. It's kind of like homework

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for me. I guess I just
kind of I try to get it out

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of the way and then so I
can look over it and kind of really

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understand, like what I'm trying to
do. From that standpoint, what are

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you looking at? Without giving away
too many secrets, why are you so

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detailed. Are you looking at the
swings? Can you read swings as the

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game is going on? What do
you what are you looking for? I

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think for sure reading swings is part
of it for me. I'm I'm I'm

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definitely more of a numbers guy,
So I like, I have a customer

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report that the Dodgers have that I've
always I've looked at. And there's a

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couple other things that they've helped me
kind of I guess mold and there's certain

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certain tendencies and other things that I'm
looking at. I'm not going to say

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everything, but yeah, just certain
tendencies kind of what guys like to do

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where they do damage. I guess
it is kind of the biggest pieces of

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it for me. And where did
that come from? Justin did you learn

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that over the years in the minor
leagues? Did you learn that in college

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at Oklahoma State or has that always
been you going back to high school.

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Yeah, it's just it's definitely a
minor league thing because you don't really have

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the data your fingertips, so that
we dude now in college, in high

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school, but definitely kind of when
I got to the minor leagues and kind

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of got access to data like that. It's just kind of from my perspective,

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it's like this can make me better, so why would I not use

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it and use it to its full
ability? So just kind of but it's

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a process to try and figure out, like what do I need to look

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at, what's important, what's not
important? What's that way? You don't

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have too much to look at.
So it's been kind of a process these

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past, you know, two seasons, just really trying to figure out what

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I need to know and what I
don't. Justin Robleski is our guest.

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He started the season in Double A, made two starts at Triple A,

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and here he is just two days
away from making his third major league start

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against the Boston Red Sox at Dodger
Stadium. I'm curious, Justin, when

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a rookie comes up and a pitcher
that's starting so quickly after he gets activated,

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how have you your teammates treated you. They've been great. Everybody's been

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really kind of accepting and kind of
just helpful to me and obviously teaching me

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kind of how things work and how
things go. You know. Luckily,

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I know a couple of guys and
Knack and Gavin and Bobby and guys like

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that that have been really just helped
me out. And the guys that I

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had knew previously so just kind of
had that comfort. But everyone's been really

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awesome. So it's been it's been
a i'd say not it's not easy,

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but they've definitely made it easier to
kind of, just, I guess mesh

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into the team. And from what
you told us, Clayton Kershaw was kind

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of the guy you looked up to
when you were a kid. How strange

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and surreal was it to be in
the dugout with him? Yeah, it's

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crazy. It's crazy, just kind
of all those years watching him and just

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kind of especially as a lefty grown
up. I mean, Kershaw was going

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to be your guy. So it's
it was real and obviously something that I'm

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thankful for and I won't forget.
Did you ever try to emulate anything of

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his delivery when you were a kid. Have you seen my delivery? It

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does not look like his. No, no, no, There's only one

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person that can throw that way,
and that's him. Have you ever thought

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about, you know, when you're
out of the stretch, like bringing both

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hands up above your head. Have
you ever thought about doing that Robleski.

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You know what, never once,
never once have I thought about Justin Robleski

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is our guest. Obviously you could
tell he's an easy guy to root for.

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And you went to college at Oklahoma
State. Your college coach was Josh

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Holliday, who's known for being a
hitting guru, because that's where a lot

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of even major leaguers go to kind
of get back on track. What was

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it like playing for him? It
was great. It was great there.

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They're great people over there, and
you know, obviously can't thank them enough

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for giving me the shot they did
as a as a junior college guy.

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So it was awesome, and they
were really really awesome to me in my

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time there. And unfortunately I wish, I wish I could have fished in

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the postseason and done all that at
Oklahoma State, but didn't get the opportunity

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because because of TJ. But they've
they were awesome with everything, and they're

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great people and I don't can't,
uh, I can't ever have a bad

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word to say about those guys,
you know, Kershaws guys over at Oklahoma

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Skip Johnson. Yeah, I don't, I don't, UH. Is there

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a rivalry? How to answer that
one? I don't know how to answer

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that one. We'll leave it right
there. We don't want to upset anybody.

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Hey, before I let you go, the one thing that we were

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all impressed about that you don't see
a lot of pitchers do or know how

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to do, is how you change
speeds, not with different pitches, but

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even how you change speeds with your
fastball. Uh. That is something that

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shows signs of mature beyond your years. Yeah, it's funny because I think

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it's It definitely adds a layer of
kind of I guess deception to me,

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where it's like you're expecting one thing
and you get another, and you got

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two different fastballs to worry about that
moved the same. So I think that

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front of boat game is really important, no doubt. And it's been working

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for you and I can't wait to
see it again on Saturday. We're all

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looking forward to a Justin and really
appreciate you taking time out to jump on

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the show. Looking forward to seeing
you out there at Dodgers Stadium tomorrow.

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Yeah, no worries, thank you
guys. Hey, there he goes Justin

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Robleski. You can call him Robo. He's given us permission. There he

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goes. He's making the start on
Saturday for the Dodgers against the Boston Red

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Sox. Twenty four years old.
Started the year out at Double A Tulsa,

439
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and here he is pitching for the
Dodgers and making his third me major

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00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:05.000
league start coming up in a couple
of days. So definitely excited for the

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00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.559
young man and definitely is to me
an underdog and a guy that certainly pitches

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because a lot of people I'm sure
counted him out. Eleventh round pick coming

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out of Oklahoma State in twenty twenty
one. Another good pitching fine for Billy

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Gasparino and his staff. Eight six
six nine eight seven two five seventy is

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the phone number. Just to remind
you about this weekend Dodgers Red Sox.

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Tomorrow night is at seven ten,
but Saturday and Sunday will be at four

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o'clock. First pitch on Saturday four
point fifteen Sunday just about four oh eight,

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So make your arrangements and you can
come to Dodger Stadium two and a

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00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.480
half hours before first pitch. That's
when gates open. Let's go out to

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the Bay Area. Lewis, you're
on Dodger Talk. How you doing Lewis,

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I'm doing real well, Dave.
First of all, that was a

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tremendous interview with Rich Hill last night. I really really enjoyed it. I

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had a great laugh. I'm actually
house sitting for my cousin in Santa Cruz

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and I was really, really nice, So I really appreciated that. Yeah,

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I hope it works out for him
the way he plans it. Yeah,

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I mean, I'm like you,
I'm optimistic. I could tell you

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a ninety one story of sitting in
the left field bleachers in the last series

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before the Dodgers went to San Francisco
where they blew I believe, like two

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of three to Cincinnati where they had
leads they couldn't get runners in. It

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00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:52.360
was so frustrating, but you know
that happens. Here's my question, though,

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00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.400
way back when I called you and
you said, oh, Munsey's coming

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00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:04.599
back, I'm concerned about him,
and I'm of the beliefs that they should

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try and find some replacement third baseman, even you know, with a hope

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that however long it takes him he
comes. He obviously comes back. But

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I think you know, if he
started swinging a bat tomorrow, he's not

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going to take him off from whenever, whenever he's told me, whenever he

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starts swinging a bat and it gets
ramped up, it's going to be two

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weeks. And that's just when he
starts getting going, and he has not

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been able to really take this to
another level. Obliques are strange, Lewis,

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and look, I'm not opposed to
it either. I even threw out

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inquiring about Vladimir Guerrero Junior, who's
not the best third baseman defensively, but

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he would sure be an impact bat
in that lineup. Yeah, I was

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00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:02.679
wondering if they would look at Brian
Anderson, who is just released, who's

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an infield outfielder, and I feel
like they've gone down this path already with

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Cavin Bigio. I don't feel like
they need to go down this path with

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Brian Anderson. Okay, well,
fair enough. I'm hoping for good things,

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but I'm with you that to me, that is as important as the

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starting pitcher. I think they can
figure out the outfield stuff, but if

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they don't get somebody to replace Monthcy, don't. I just don't have the

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00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:42.199
confidence I love Chris Taylor that he
can really take it up that. Yeah,

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we'll see where it goes from here, Lewis, thank you for the

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00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:52.320
phone call. Yeah, it's It's
interesting because right now on July eighteenth,

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the Dodgers can go so many different
directions, and there are a lot of

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teams right now that are on the
bubble, and the way their teams play

485
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:07.239
between now and July twenty ninth is
going to determine whether or not they are

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still in the race or if they
believe that they are out of the race,

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which means there are more sellers than
there are currently and that's why many

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00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:22.760
people out there believe with this new
playoff format and with the waiver trade deadline

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00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:28.159
done with, and there's only one
trade deadline now, they should push this

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00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:36.280
back to August tenth August fifteenth,
so there is more action and more clarity

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00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:40.440
from these teams with the extra playoffs
spot on whether they are in or whether

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00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.719
they are out. Give them a
little bit more time since there's only one

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trade deadline. Now. Let's go
out to our friend Isabelle in Anaheim.

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I could not leave you on hold
again, Isabelle, I could not take

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it. Welcome the Dodger Talk.
Oh yeah, I think you, David,

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00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:04.800
how are you? I'm doing great? Isabelle, how are you that

497
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.039
I'm okay, I'm gonna do Hey, didn't let you know I hate sick

498
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:15.760
up for you where we're shaken,
So anyway, I ax impidence pick up

499
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.079
for you. So you know I
will always sick up for you. So

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00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.960
I appreciate it. You're welcome.
But listen, I got to get this

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00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:29.280
off my check be could have been
buzzing me since this week. How long

502
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:35.360
have you wait to get this off
your chest? This since this week?

503
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:40.360
Because I have to get this before
tomorrow. To describing me crazy, this

504
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:45.840
was unreseparable, loudy, lousy.
Well, okay, I take understand losing

505
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:51.800
to Philly because Philly is editing than
the Dodgers. But Detroit, I'm sorry,

506
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.760
I just couldn't taken. Oh God, I'm so upset with the team

507
00:39:55.840 --> 00:40:00.639
right now. So I'll give the
I'll give them, I'll give them a

508
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:06.440
dig. I'm trying to be generous, but I just don't think I'm generous.

509
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.039
I mean you think. Well,
it sounded like you needed a reset,

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00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.000
all star break reset as well Asabelle. I was hoping you would have

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00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:20.360
a uh be able to start fresh
tomorrow. How about that? Oh?

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00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.960
I will, but well you were
actually you were acting. You needed the

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00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:29.559
time off. You can't point at
any flinger. I think that on needed

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00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:32.559
the time off. If you really
wanted to know, so did you say?

515
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:38.679
But listen, I think everybody,
the whole team needed the day off,

516
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:44.920
even the coaching self, the management. You clarly point one fingers.

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00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:49.599
So, but it was we sat. It was see let them be boss

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00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.440
I'll take two hours three this window. Therey is you guys. I hain't

519
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:59.679
anything to do with bosses right now. So this b bosses as how you

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00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:06.119
did it? But lad, yeah, and the Giants next week, who

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00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:10.760
I hate more than oh I know, the two LA rivals Boston and San

522
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.800
Francisco. Yeah, and David you
really yes, this is not the launching

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00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.480
pad. There's a lot. This
is not the launching pad with Petros money.

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00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:25.039
Isabelle. One final thought that we
could take away for tonight. Yeah,

525
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:31.280
well you were later. iHeart do
Kimmy championships go Giants game. So

526
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:37.719
anyway, so I just need to
get that off. But I have a

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00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.400
good week and we'll talk Saturday,
Okay, Isabelle, I look forward to

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Saturday's conversation. There she goes.
Isabelle formerly from Buena Park now in Anaheim.

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She sounded very frustrated, and I
hope things change for her and the

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Dodgers coming out of this All Star
break. But as I let Petro some

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00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.639
money know a few different times this
week, and they did not want to

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00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:06.400
accept this. They acted like this
was breaking news that Gavin Stone, Justin

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00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:10.280
Robleski, and James Paxton were going
to be the first three starters out of

534
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:15.159
the All Star Break. Just because
there was an All Star Break does not

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00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:22.719
mean there was any certain miracle that
healed Yoshi Yamamoto, Walker Bueller or Tyler

536
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:28.519
Glass. Now, for these first
three games, it's just not the reality

537
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:30.920
of things. And Tyler Glass now, as he said to people out in

538
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:35.719
Texas, if this was a playoff
game or a must win game, he

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00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:40.480
would pitch. But because the Dodgers
are managing his season, they feel like

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00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:45.639
they can give him this first series
off and look, there's an outside chance

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00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:50.840
that he could pitch against the Giants, and if not against the Giants,

542
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:55.320
certainly on the upcoming road trip,
which will take the Dodgers from Houston to

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00:42:55.400 --> 00:43:01.280
San Diego and then Oakland for the
five time in Dodger history, they will

544
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:06.880
be up at the Oakland Coliseum,
where there has been a lot of history

545
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:13.519
between the Dodgers and Athletics. The
nineteen seventy four and nineteen eighty eight World

546
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:16.559
Series come to mine right at the
top of my head, of course,

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00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:22.000
so there's been some history between those
two teams in that ballpark. But the

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00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:27.000
Dodgers have to take care of business
now, and it's not going to be

549
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:31.840
easy against the Boston Red Sox,
who are turning a lot of doubters into

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00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.039
believers out there in Beantown. And
say what you want about Alex Cora,

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00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:43.360
but Alex Cora gets a lot out
of less than most managers s. He

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00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:47.039
did not have a great team last
year and they were hovering around five hundred

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00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.920
and this year he has his team
as the third and final wildcard team in

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00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:58.719
the American League. So I feel
like Alex Cora might be the most coveted

555
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:02.159
free agent this side of one so
right, he's a free agent manager with

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00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:10.239
Craig Council being signed to a big
contract. Ironic that Council is in last

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00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:15.639
place with the Cubs while the Brewers
are in first place with Pat Murphy.

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Anyway, that'll do it for us
on Dodger Talk tonight. We'll be back

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00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:25.159
with you tomorrow night from Dodgers Stadium, Morongo Casino. Dodgers on Deck begins

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at six o'clock with first pitch at
seven to ten. It will be Gavin

561
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:36.159
Stone on the mound for the Dodgers
tomorrow night as they start a three game

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series against the Red Sox. Gavin
Stone will be opposed by Nick Pavetta,

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00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:45.400
who is formed sixth this year with
an ERA of four to eighteen. And

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00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:52.320
don't forget Long Beach State dirt Bag
and All Star Game MVP Jaron Duran will

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00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.440
be in the house as well.
So the Dodgers have their work cut out

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for them in these three games against
the Red Sox, and then they'll welcome

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I'm in the San Francisco Giants for
four games after these three games over the

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00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:09.079
weekend. Thanks to Katie Newton back
at our Burbank Studios. Thanks to you

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for listening. In case you missed
any of the show, you can find

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it on the iHeartRadio app. That's
also where you can find our conversation with

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Justin Robleski. Coming up next Jason
Smith on Fox Sports Radio. We'll talk

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to you tomorrow. See you

