WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.120 For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female homebuilder with a passion 2 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:07.719 for design, a mastery of detail, and a commitment to her crack. 3 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:11.160 With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side, I don't need the whole family on 4 00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:13.480 a date with me. That's a good note. It's God then weird. 5 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:18.160 See. Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction company in the country. 6 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:22.640 You're crazy, You're a wacko. You're insane. I mean, it 7 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:26.920 just doesn't end together. Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of 8 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:31.519 construction, real estate, development, design and more. Unpredictable. Every time 9 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:33.719 I think I know what you want, you switch it out. But that's 10 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:37.399 what makes your houses. All us day discuss anything that happens between the roof 11 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:41.280 and the foundation. Nothing is off limits. You truly do care about everybody. 12 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:43.640 She can yell at chi gets green, but when you get her alone, 13 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:50.880 she's the best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails. 14 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:55.280 I welcome to Cindy Stumpo tough his nails on WBS News Radio ten thirty 15 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:59.719 and I'm here tonight with obviously my new brunette daughter, Samantha new brunette, 16 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:03.400 new daughter now will give my new brunette daughter. And our topic tonight is 17 00:01:03.959 --> 00:01:07.400 Raven Drum Foundation. That I have that right? Yes? Okay? Good? 18 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:12.599 And I guess star Rick Allen, Laura Monroe and Rick what do you 19 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:17.239 do? Just in case people don't know who Rick Allen is, I played 20 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:21.200 drums with Deaf Leopard and hold on, let's play that down. We just 21 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:23.959 played drums with def Leppard, right, there's like no big deal, there 22 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.280 was no video. Well, I've been doing it for so long, you 23 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:27.879 know, it's kind of second nature at this point. I mean, it's 24 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:34.079 massive, massive blessing, as you can imagine. But some of the things 25 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:38.239 that I do outside of that are really I'm really passionate about, and Raven 26 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:42.799 Drum Foundation is one of them. Okay, so let's talk about that. 27 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:47.359 Why did a rock and roller from def Leppard back in the years you guys 28 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:52.640 started? The band started in seventy seven, and I joined them round about 29 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:57.319 my fifteenth birthday in nineteen seventy eight. So seventy eight, you're fifteen. 30 00:01:57.359 --> 00:01:59.680 I'm thirteen. So I just figured out your age and you just figured out 31 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:02.120 my I'm fifty. What am I You're going to be sixty? Sam? 32 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:06.480 Stop, don't go there gonna say age. You're not missing anything. I'm 33 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:08.360 not missing thing. It's not that big deal. If I have to age, 34 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:10.919 you have to age? Yeah, I guess can you age? And 35 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:15.759 I stopped. So basically, a fifteen year old boy is playing in a 36 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:19.800 rock band that's already made it out there? Or were you still making it 37 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:23.840 out there? No, that was early days of def Leppard. You know, 38 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:30.039 we were still playing smaller, smaller shows, you know, small venues, 39 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:37.639 clubs, and then we kind of we got a break in about nineteen 40 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:44.319 seventy nine. We opened up for let's see, we opened up for Sammy 41 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:47.919 Hagar and then we ended up opening up for Sammy Hay. Wasn't he did 42 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:52.520 he come later? He can't? It was No, Sammy's Samy. Sammy's 43 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:54.560 been around for a long time. He was he was with a band called 44 00:02:54.599 --> 00:03:00.000 Montreal. And then yeah, this this was this was this was early day. 45 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:06.680 So really Sammy gave us one of our first breaks. And then we 46 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:13.599 opened for ac DC. I remember having my sixteenth birthday at the Hammersmith Odeon 47 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:17.039 with ac DC. Now at that point, you're getting star struck. Now, 48 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:22.240 yeah, I was totally start. How many kids can say they've you 49 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:24.080 know, they've played on the same stage as ac DC at that age, 50 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:30.039 you know, so I just felt I felt really blessed. Yeah, so 51 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.680 things have just gone up and out and def Leppert took off in what year? 52 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:38.159 When did they really get home? Probably probably? You know, our 53 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:46.599 first record, our first LP was in man LP L days mean nineteen eighty 54 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:49.120 No, kids don't even know what LP means, but it's okay, No, 55 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:52.879 And then and then really I think I think our big break was nineteen 56 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:57.919 eighty three with a record called Pyromania. Correct, Yeah, Pyromania. And 57 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:03.080 then right after that what then? And we did a record called Hysteria That 58 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:10.120 was a nineteen eighty seven big break between Pyromania and Hysteria. But that really 59 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:13.879 blew the doors off. That was that was a massive success for the band. 60 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:15.839 And as you're hearing this music play in the radio, love Bites is 61 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:19.800 my favorite, by the way. Yeah, it's beautiful song. I mean, 62 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:25.079 I it still excites me. Of course. You know, you hear 63 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.519 something that you were involved with, you know, you hear a song and 64 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:31.759 yeah, I feel really good about it. And then you realize that, 65 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.759 you know, tons of other people are hearing it as well. So that's 66 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:39.319 that's a gift. And you guys are still you still run tours. I 67 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:42.399 see you've got a tour coming up, right, Yeah, we're going to 68 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:47.279 be a Fenway. When was it fifth of August? Yeah? Fifth of 69 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:49.959 August? Fifth? Yeah, they don't have a roof on that place, 70 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:53.839 you know. No, no, we don't know. The Red Sox does 71 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:57.519 not have a roof over that place. So you guys are still toring. 72 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:00.959 Is everybody still in the band that started as of in the eighties still there? 73 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:04.720 Or three of us? The new guys been with us maybe? And 74 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:09.600 Campbell he's been with us for what twenty five years and he's the new guy. 75 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:13.399 Yeah, we've been together for a long time. All right, So 76 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.720 now tell me now that people understand who you are, where you come from, 77 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:21.240 they're listening. What makes this foundation, Raven Drum Foundation important to you 78 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:27.000 and your lovely wife by the way, well, right, like, can 79 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:29.959 we introduce her? Do we even introduce her? I'm so sorry we didn't 80 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:33.680 do we ladies, gentlemen, loaden and gentlemen, go ahead introduce yourself. 81 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:39.279 What are you doing besides being his wife. You have your own business on 82 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:41.839 the side. Go ahead, we're gonna hit on you for a minute. 83 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:46.160 I'm Laura Monroe. I'm the co founder Raven Drum Foundation with my husband, 84 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:51.279 and I'm been a teacher of energy medicine for over twenty five years. And 85 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:57.319 energy medicine is what is energy medicine sounds like it's something I need say, 86 00:05:57.399 --> 00:05:59.759 I think you do well. That's an umbrella term for a lot of different 87 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:04.720 momentsties you probably know of, like acupuncture and reiki, breath work, mindfulness 88 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:10.879 as an element of energy medicine, anything that's not considered allopathic Western medicine that 89 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:15.759 has ancient roots and also new roots because there are a lot of things in 90 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:20.720 neuroscience that are becoming very very popular and very evidence based around how we can 91 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:25.839 use our mind to heal. And I've been teaching this for quite a long 92 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:30.240 time and that's what we bring to the foundation along with drumming. Okay, 93 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:32.600 I'm here for that. And then you also playing your own band I do. 94 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:38.000 I'm a singer songwriter and I tour and you too. You guys must 95 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:41.959 live a pretty exciting life. We're busy, busy. We're really good thing 96 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:46.360 busy keeps you young. Yeah. And one of the reasons for Raven Drum 97 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.959 Foundation, or the reason I'm so passionate about it, is if it wasn't 98 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:56.040 for first responders, I probably wouldn't be here. So I think that's why 99 00:06:56.040 --> 00:07:00.000 I want to get into why Raven Drum Foundation is so important to you. 100 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:02.199 And I think we should take this from the beginning. So go ahead. 101 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:09.759 I'm gonna let Lauren explain. Okay, laurens off, this is what this 102 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:13.079 is what every wife does. Okay, go ahead, we speak for them. 103 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.879 Okay, I don't want to take the training wheels off yet. All 104 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:17.759 right, We're good. You go ahead, Loine. Well, in two 105 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:23.639 thousand and one, right after Rick and I met, we realized that we 106 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:28.240 both bringing our gifts together and our knowledge of trauma. His you know, 107 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:30.240 I'm not sure if you mentioned it in this interview, but everybody who knows 108 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:34.120 him well knows he lost his arm in a car accident when he was twenty 109 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:39.120 one years old. That was at the height of his career. So he 110 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:44.560 has a history of trauma and my background is healing trauma. And so when 111 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.360 we came together, we realized that not only drumming, because I'm a drummer, 112 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:51.120 I'm percussionist myself. That when we started drumming together and I started giving 113 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:57.720 him some guidance in how to use his breath, how to ground himself, 114 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:01.839 what to do with when he's feeling anxious on stage, all these little tools 115 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.279 he would be using on stage, and then we would be practicing together. 116 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:09.639 We thought, you know what, other people can really use this information and 117 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:15.040 we can help people. So we started this foundation. Our first populations of 118 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:16.959 people were in the public school system, special needs. We went into a 119 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:22.759 juvenile detention center, work with gang kids, safe houses, cancer care centers, 120 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:26.959 and then Rick took a trip to well to Read Medical Center in Washington, 121 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:30.040 d C. And that was in two thousand and six, and he 122 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:33.759 was deeply moved by some of the veterans there, the military there that have 123 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:39.879 lost limbs and immediately created a bond with them, and we decided that's our 124 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.440 mission. Now, we need to really focus on veterans. And now we're 125 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.720 moving into first responders who are very underserved and a lot of them have deep 126 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:50.480 trauma from their work. Thank you for that. That was very concise. 127 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:54.840 That was perfect. Okay, that was an awesome elevator page Okay, So 128 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:58.039 I like this all right, So I get it. I like this foundation 129 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.159 to stand. We're going to go off to break, and I want to 130 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.679 just ask you this question. When we come back from break, can you 131 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.240 tell the audience how you lost your arm? Are we going to go there? 132 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:11.480 You don't want to go there with you? Tell me? I can? 133 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:13.279 I can go in a in a brief way. You want me to 134 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:16.440 tell you now or after we're going to go to break. How's that cool? 135 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:18.879 Okay? You're listening to Cidey Stumpo and we'll be right back. It's 136 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:24.759 the WBC News Radio Tenther sponsored by Flooren Decor, National Lumber, and Village 137 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:43.919 Bang and welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBC News Radio ten thirty. And 138 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:48.399 I'm Sidney Stumpo and I'm here with Samantha and Lauren, Lauren, Lauren and 139 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.000 Ray Allen. Okay remember their names? Yeah, you're sure? Okay, 140 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.159 moving along fast? Okay, seriously, you might forget well, I'm always 141 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.240 forgetting my own name. No, I remember my name, I just can't 142 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:05.879 remember like little like what's that for? Breakfast? My mother? Your cousins 143 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:09.919 before your name? So you mentioned before the break about how I lost my 144 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:16.639 arm. Let's go, it was a shark attack. A shark had me 145 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:18.240 on that one, Okay, that's what I tell the kids. Or a 146 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:22.360 shaving accident, a shavy accident, you took your arm off, Yeah, 147 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:26.759 and that that normally breaks the ice with the kids. But the reality was 148 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:33.720 it was a terrible car accident and I I was driving a left hand drive 149 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:41.240 car in England and I put my foot down to pass this car that wouldn't 150 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:45.679 let me pass miles and then I lost control of the car, rolled the 151 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:50.080 car and as I rolled the car, the seat belt that I was wearing 152 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:56.639 came undone came across my chest and that took my arm. And as the 153 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:03.200 car was rolling, I actually left through the south roof and I guess I 154 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:07.200 bang my head really bad in the in the in that particular accent. So 155 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:15.320 I long story short, I did a lot of damage to myself and through 156 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:22.919 the help of you know, the the health system in England, they took 157 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:28.720 care of my physical wounds. You know, obviously I ended up losing my 158 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:33.240 arm, which is devastating for a drama, but there were a lot of 159 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:39.159 invisible wounds that I didn't necessarily take care of the time. So I always 160 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.759 say I'm a I'm a work in progress, and I'm still working in progress. 161 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:48.919 Let's call there dramas. Use two arps for everything, right, most 162 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:54.320 of them. Okay, you're righting, yeah, left arm right? Yeah 163 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:58.600 I was. I was very right handed, you know, right for kicking 164 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:05.320 a soccer ball around. That's called that football over there. Yeah yeah, 165 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:09.000 okay, yeah, So in that respect, guys are weird football. You 166 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.399 throw the sockey kick with your foot, but it's okay, you guys can 167 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:18.240 call it football. But here's my question to you, what made you decide? 168 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:22.080 I'm sure after all this, you're in your own depression, You're in 169 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:28.240 your own world. What made you go back behind those drums and say I 170 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:31.600 can do this with the band members? There were they there to help you 171 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:33.840 or they there to lift you up? Was it family? Was it yourself? 172 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:39.000 How did you get behind those drums again with one arm? My brother 173 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:45.320 was very instrumental. He stayed with me for the whole month. It doesn't 174 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:48.559 sound like very long, but he stayed with me in the hospital, and 175 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:56.519 he lifted me up. He brought all the music in that inspired me growing 176 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:03.360 up, and I started tapping out rhythms with my feet, which really helped 177 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:09.639 me to realize that I could express myself in a new way. My family, 178 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:16.399 they were really supportive at twenty one years old. Now, remember that 179 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.200 you're a kid, I know, I know. Yeah, I had to 180 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:24.480 do quite a bit of growing up in a very short short amount of time. 181 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.879 I could never have envisioned, you know, something this terrible was going 182 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:37.879 to happen. But there were a few people. Matt Lang was a producer 183 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:43.679 at the time. He was very supportive, and he started talking about things 184 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:50.679 that I could do, whereas I was dwelling on the things that I couldn't 185 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:56.240 do, and that sort of plant a seed and then I really discovered the 186 00:13:56.279 --> 00:14:03.600 power of the human spirit and how I could move forward. And I think 187 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:09.440 an AHA moment for me was when I stopped comparing myself to how I used 188 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:13.840 to be, and stop comparing my you know, how I used to play, 189 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.720 and stop comparing myself the guy you were prior to losing it up. 190 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:20.240 Yeah, I think we all do that in our wrong way. Like I 191 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.440 still compare myself to be in twenty five when I'm not twenty five anymore, 192 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:26.559 right, So, like you know, it's like, remember, remember like 193 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:31.519 remember these and remember so you had to do a whole I hate this word. 194 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.159 Everybody knows this word, but you did a complete mindset. I use 195 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:39.759 the words you did a complete, a complete brain reset. But the world 196 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.120 the new word is mindset. So I'll go with it. I suppose. 197 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.679 I suppose in many ways yes, And I'm still doing that to this day. 198 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:52.639 You know, there's always something new, and it's been it's been good 199 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:58.759 and bad along the way. But meets the first time you get back on 200 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:03.840 stage one arm, not in your home, not playing around yourself, not 201 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.360 playing with family, You're on that stage, people looking at you, and 202 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:09.879 you have one arm. Did you feel like you crushed it that night? 203 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:16.799 I did. I was very conservative. I kept I kept thinking simple, 204 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:22.039 and as a bit of a safety net, I actually took out another drama 205 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:28.200 with me, a guy called Jeff Rich who I'm really grateful that he was 206 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:31.559 there with me. So they brought back up just in case, what in 207 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:37.039 case you was in case went wrong. You know, electronic drums in those 208 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:41.320 days, because I remember I'm using my feet on these electronic foot pedals, 209 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:46.200 and you know, it was it was different, and it was it was 210 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:50.360 a newer sort of technology, you know, being able to play electronic drums 211 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:56.159 as opposed to acoustic drums. So it was nice to have somebody next to 212 00:15:56.159 --> 00:16:00.279 me that was playing an acoustic drum kit in case something went wrong. And 213 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:06.360 this was a small tour. We did a warm up tour for a bigger 214 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:10.240 show that we were going to be playing in you know, in about a 215 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:15.679 week or so. That ended up we ended up actually playing a venue called 216 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:21.799 Donnington in England, and that was this giant festival. So we did a 217 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:26.159 few warm up shows and remember the first night was great, you know, 218 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:30.799 myself and Jeff, we'd rehearsed really well, We practiced these songs really really 219 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:38.799 well together. And then the second night I ended up playing part of the 220 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:45.120 show on my own and then he would come and join me on stage. 221 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:48.080 And then the third night he'd gone home because we had a day off in 222 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:53.240 between, and he missed this flight on the way back. The flight was 223 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:56.919 Cancler. Yeah, security blanket's gone. Now, yeah, my security blanket's 224 00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:00.720 gone. So I ended up playing most of the show on my own, 225 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:06.319 and then when he came and sat down next to me because he finally got 226 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:08.119 a fly. The rest of the guys in the band said well, we 227 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.319 didn't really notice any different, so I was like, well that was good, 228 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:17.960 you know. And then we ended up playing this show in Waterford and 229 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:22.160 it was more like it. It was more like a bar, very small, 230 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:27.799 very small stage, and one of the crew called me and said, 231 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:33.079 well, the place isn't big enough to get two dram kits on the stage. 232 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:37.200 Do you want to have a playing on your own? And I said, 233 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.839 yeah, I'd love to. So I played the show that night on 234 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:49.119 my own and after the show, Jeff Rich came up to me and it 235 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:52.359 was beautiful the way he did it. He just said, I guess I'm 236 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.000 going home tomorrow and that's it, and that was it. That was the 237 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:03.279 beginning of me doing this on my own and having the confidence to drive a 238 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:07.440 band, you know, like like def Leopard. You know, it's crazy 239 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.440 because you look at this generation. They don't know music, Like they listen 240 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:15.240 to whatever they're spinning. I can hear it next door, right, they're 241 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.319 spinning. But to me, going to watch a band back in the day, 242 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:22.640 or even MTV VH one back in the day when they just played videos 243 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:26.920 after videos, right, I always thought the drummer was the sexy guy, 244 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:29.799 right, that's as a young girl. That's why I saw not the bass 245 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:33.960 play, not the guitar. So you married the sexy drummer, right, 246 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:37.240 So that was just my take, the drummer like he made the band. 247 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:41.880 I don't know why. You know, all my favorite bands today it's always 248 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:44.720 the drummer, right. Is that it's just that me? Or is that 249 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:48.799 a lot of people that watch bands back in the day. I think everyone 250 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:53.480 has their own favorite personal connections. What do you like to watch when you're 251 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:59.480 watching? I watch everyone I do. I watch when I watch him, 252 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:03.759 I watch him the most because I know when that starts slipping those you know, 253 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.680 but fine, and then they're they're doing there what's that called? Oh, 254 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:12.079 stick twirling? You know what I think it is? Down left right? 255 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:18.960 You know what I think is I think there's something primal about drumming. 256 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:25.200 It's probably the most ancient form there is in any band. You know, 257 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:30.599 drumming has been around in every culture most thousands of years. I thought we're 258 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:36.160 going to break up the city stumbling Nails. I'm w BZ news Radio ten 259 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:38.279 three, will be Right Bad sponsored by Pellow, Windows of Boston, Next 260 00:19:38.319 --> 00:20:02.799 Day Molding and Kennedy Carpet and welcome acted Toughest Nails on Wvzena's Radio ten thirty. 261 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:08.279 And I'm here with the beautiful Samantha and the beautiful Lauren and the unbelievable, 262 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:14.599 amazing, handsome what's my name again? Rick Allen? I'm used to 263 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:17.160 doing this for her all the time? What's my name again? No, 264 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:19.119 you said pick it up where we left off, and I forgot what I 265 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.440 was saying. Oh, that's normal. It happens to me all the time. 266 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:23.200 I think it was the bang on the head that did it. We 267 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:26.160 can use that as an excuse, all right, he says, menopause. 268 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:30.119 No, he would be low test Australia. I would be metopause. Okay, 269 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:33.480 So does the remember what we were just talking about. No, So 270 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:36.880 that's it. We're going to clear that road. Okay. You were talking 271 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:41.480 about how the second the second guy said to him, I guess I'm going 272 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:44.200 home now respectfully said it to him nicely that he could do it on his 273 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:48.640 own now. And then we started talking about why everybody thinks, well not 274 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:52.880 everybody, why some people think the Dramma is the most sexy guy in the 275 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.400 band, and then I started and then I started talking about well because it's 276 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.960 the most ancient form. You know, you said it was crimal. It 277 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:04.839 happens back to you know, dancing around in loin cloths or less. You 278 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:08.000 know, so I don't remember those days. I just say the drama is 279 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:11.839 a sexy guy out there. I don't know why. It's the alms, 280 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:18.680 it's the whole thing. The drumstake's going everywhere. Okay, can you both 281 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:25.519 of you sure a memoral experience from your charity work that deeply impacted both of 282 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:32.400 you together, not as one. There are so many I think most recently 283 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.000 last year and this year. This happened at two different events, and you 284 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:40.359 couldn't plan this, So this wasn't something that we created per se. But 285 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:45.039 we work with various people that go through trauma. On On two different occasions, 286 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:55.799 we had people that have lost children come and we had this one incident. 287 00:21:55.839 --> 00:22:00.079 We had eight people come to this event that lost children, and one 288 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:04.759 of these people recognized a first responder there that was the one that came to 289 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:10.599 the scene, uh and found her daughter in a car accident and was the 290 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:15.680 one that lifted her out of the car, and she was what she she 291 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:21.119 came to her daughter. She came to the drum circle for healing, this 292 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:25.240 drum event for healing, and so did this first responder. They did not 293 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:29.720 know each other, but then they realized that they were together at the scene 294 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:33.200 of her daughter's death at the accident. He was one of the first responders 295 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:38.160 that came and she recognized him, and there was this moment really deep healing 296 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:44.519 where the two of them, you know, remembered this event and reconnected and 297 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:48.519 we have This happened quite a bit because we mix our events with first responders, 298 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:52.759 veterans, people in crisis, and there's such a synergy with a lot 299 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.119 of them, and this one was something we couldn't plan uh, And that 300 00:22:56.279 --> 00:23:02.039 happened quite a few times, just recently, where it was just created by 301 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:04.880 something bigger than us. But what happens during during these events and during these 302 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:11.680 circles that people begin to experience their trauma in a more intimate way. Because 303 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.480 most of the time we're managing trauma, we're managing our thoughts were either in 304 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:18.559 the past or in the future. Being in the moment is too painful, 305 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:22.440 and so when we bring people together with the rhythms and with the cues and 306 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:26.319 how to breathe and how to be with our pain together as a group, 307 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:30.519 the walls start coming down. We're able to access We're able to see each 308 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.319 other in ways that we don't normally see strangers in a room, and we 309 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:38.000 all become this have this family connection. And I know that's not a specific 310 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:45.640 uh uh incident that I'm speaking about, but every single event uh is very 311 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:49.200 profound for people, and all we're doing is guiding them to a place to 312 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:56.599 feel their pain in a way that's safe and musical. I have a question, 313 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:00.759 does everybody walk around with trauma or is it just a generation that we 314 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.480 just tell everybody our trauma now? Because God knows, our grandparents and our 315 00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:07.960 parents didn't talk about trauma, right, they did not talk about it. 316 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:10.880 But you know, if you ask the veterans from the I call them the 317 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:14.279 secret generation. By the way, an ancestry is bringing everything out now. 318 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.279 People have had kids that they didn't had kids, thought their mothers were their 319 00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:21.240 fathers and their father So that secret generation, all the secrets are coming out 320 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:25.119 now. Well we have this something called generational trauma too. What is okay? 321 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:29.960 So look it. I know it's kind of funny and I'll use me 322 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:33.160 as an excuse. Since twenty six years old, I've had crippling panic disorder. 323 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:36.559 Right, I don't know when my trauma is, like I've went, 324 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:40.599 I've talked like literally, I can't find the trauma that gives me these panic 325 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:42.880 attacks. Right. So, after at twenty six years old they first hit 326 00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:47.279 up, I literally said to doctor, could these be genetic? Nope, 327 00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:51.160 Cindy, panic attacks or trauma? Could they be hormonal? No? No, 328 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:53.640 no no. Twenty years later, after twenty years of dealing with them, 329 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:57.200 we find out they are genetic and they could be hormonal. Right. 330 00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:02.440 But twenty years that I walked around them, I can't find anything in my 331 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:07.799 life that should cause me from thinking I'm dying at the moment, right. 332 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:12.519 So, and I don't really see where I have had trauma, but it 333 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.319 be around me has had trauma. So I'm trying to figure out where's my 334 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:21.920 trauma right Right. That is such a brilliant thing to bring up because it's 335 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:26.400 not about the story of the trauma, because the trauma is in the body. 336 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.240 And I work with a really beautiful man, a scientist. His name 337 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.920 is doctor Bruce Slipton, and he wrote the book The Biology of Belief and 338 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:40.480 in our cellular memory, we hold trauma and and we can you know, 339 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:44.599 we can be perceiving trauma as ours and have panic attacks and have these moments 340 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:48.680 where we're built out of control and don't remember what caused it. That's it's 341 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:52.480 a normal thing, just being you know, trauma can happen in the womb 342 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.759 even before you end. Okay, it is true that trauma can carry on 343 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:03.559 from generations and be passed down one hundred really ancestral baggage is what I call 344 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:06.559 it. Anyway, So I could be carried my great great great great grandmother's 345 00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:11.680 boy. Yeah, And I think that's the beautiful thing about learning how to 346 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:15.200 be with your body and being able to it doesn't matter. The story of 347 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:19.119 the trauma doesn't matter because it's a story. What happened to your body is 348 00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:23.119 the thing that you want to connect with and clear and learn how to regulate 349 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:27.759 your nervous system and be aware. You know, when that panic attack, 350 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.960 when that's diet. You can't reason with me for twenty minutes, right, 351 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:36.319 that's it. I'm dying, but I've been dying since twenty six. Eventually 352 00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:37.440 I want to die, right, Eventually it's going to happen. That's really 353 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.559 going to die. But no, they're very they're very scary, and I 354 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:47.000 keep looking for the trauma. But like you're saying, it could be my 355 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:49.039 mother's trauma or my grandmother's trauma. Mom, you say all the time that 356 00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:53.519 you're very empathic, so maybe you're feeling everybody else's trauma that very umpthing too. 357 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:59.319 Yes, I think you know empathic sensitive people. I think the most 358 00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:03.160 important thing is to learn what is someone else's energy and emotions and what your 359 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:08.759 own is, because then it becomes this mixed bag of energy and emotions and 360 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:12.599 you don't know who's who's. And I think that's so important. I've noticed 361 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:18.200 people born under certain signs, like I'm a cancer one on that cancer sign. 362 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.240 It seems like we have the most empathetic and EmPATH people ever. Like 363 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.279 you tell me something, I feel it. If I watch a video somebody 364 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:30.680 getting beat up in the video which all these crazy videos, my algorithm has 365 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:34.079 changed on my Twitter, so it's one bad video of and I get like 366 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.799 I can feel it. It's a horrible, it's a curse in the blessing. 367 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:42.119 But to go back, my question too, is when you're dealing with 368 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:47.640 all this and this foundation, how do you leave it behind you? And 369 00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:52.480 go home and have a normal life with your husband and you with your wife, 370 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.119 Like, how do you not take this type of work home with you? 371 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:02.759 I learned at an early age how to protect myself and everything we do 372 00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:08.359 and what we create comes from really being very very conscious and learning where to 373 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:12.440 put our mind and our intention and being very familiar with our own heart. 374 00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:18.119 And you have to set boundaries psychically and with your mind to be able to 375 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:22.359 hold the space. And also for me, it's believing in a higher power, 376 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:27.599 like everything that happened in someone else's life and I'm a witness to that 377 00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:33.480 moment when they're sharing their pain. I'm not saving them. There's a higher 378 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:38.200 power that's guiding them. And in that moment, I hold the space and 379 00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:42.279 someone has a moment of healing, and I know that that will continue for 380 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:48.200 them. And I learned the hard way. I was I'm an empathic healer 381 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.839 similar to you, but I'm also a physical impath. So I started working 382 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:57.079 with cancer care patients, patients in the oncology ward. Back when I first 383 00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:02.920 started doing this work, I would start experiencing the side effects of chemo when 384 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.240 I went home, and it wasn't me. I wasn't getting the I'm a 385 00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:11.839 Virgo, but I'm a Scorpio moon. And there's a lot about astrology that 386 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:18.440 I would break down because it's not just about your son's sign but h so, 387 00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.160 and it's about how your brain is wired too, and and and my 388 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:27.720 brain was wired to feel everybody all the time. And so if someone was 389 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:32.960 having a panic attack, I would feel it, uh and physically I would 390 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.920 start feeling it. And so I learned very quickly that you have to create 391 00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.880 these these these boundaries. Yeah. And if I don't, I don't know 392 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:45.960 that word. By the way, it's essential because if you don't, your 393 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.920 life will You'll suffer more, especially when you're trying to help people. Well 394 00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:53.079 that thought, I'm sinny standpoint. Listen to Toughest Nails on w BS Oh 395 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.440 my God, she's a w BZ News Radio ten thirty, will be right 396 00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.920 back, sponsored by new Brook Realty Group, Boston, would Smaller Insurance World, 397 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:19.440 Auto Body and Tosca drive Auto Body Loud with Me and Welcome to the 398 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:25.839 City. Stumpo Toughest Nails on WBC News Radio ten thirty and I'm we're actually 399 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.599 laughing every time we go to break the best questions are asked it's always the 400 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:32.880 best questions when we go to break Samantha, Yes, can you introduce every 401 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.200 morning? Rick? Okay, perfect, because some people come in halfway through, 402 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.400 right, So I just ad laurens and virgos. So I said to 403 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.079 Rick, when's the last time you want to fight on an argument? And 404 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.359 would you say Rick every day? And I said, no, I think 405 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.200 I win the fight, but in reality, I I I don't. Rco 406 00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.279 always wins. Yeah, I know, you know they say the way you 407 00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.359 being a water sign and her being earthed, she probably levels you out a 408 00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:06.880 lot. She does well, I'm an Italian virgo. She has five votes. 409 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.000 I know, well, well, I win, but he thinks he 410 00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.440 does and that makes it all good. No, she makes me think I 411 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:18.240 win. Yeah, she makes you think that's it. But the thinkin what's 412 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.480 your rising scorpio, oh rising capricorn, it doesn't matter. The Virgo's loyal 413 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.119 and that's all that matters. And the virgo's got a big hot too. 414 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:27.640 I know. I got a virgo as a son and I got there's daughter. 415 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.359 So tell me about what is coming? What what do you see for 416 00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:37.839 this mission that you're on? Like where we go in here with this mission 417 00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:42.680 what's going to finally make you guys feel like you've you've hit the home run, 418 00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:48.319 Like, okay, we've we've made this successful. We feel good because 419 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.799 see you start talking trauma. Now we can start talking about other trauma. 420 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.480 Like we got kids. I don't know if you're following in every eleven minutes 421 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:01.480 somebody's diameter of a fatanyl overdose right between the age of I think eleven twelve 422 00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:06.720 to twenty eight, right, you were in the scene of you know, 423 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:12.400 rock and roll sex, rock and roll drugs. That was the error of 424 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.119 the eighties. You know, we didn't really have people dying of snow and 425 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:19.440 coke back in nineteen you know, eighty two. It just kind of was 426 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.200 unheard of. And now we get kids dying every eleven minutes, right, 427 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:27.759 and I've been following that. That's more trauma coming like wee do you guys 428 00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:34.440 stop? Weir? Do you cross the boundaries? Like we can't take everybody 429 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:38.480 into our foundation because now you get parents that are losing children to one pill 430 00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:43.000 right that they might buy at school an adderall or when you look around what's 431 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.680 going on in our country? I don't know. For some reason, on 432 00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:50.519 my Twitter, my algorithm I've trained it in three days to watch all the 433 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:53.680 most terrific videos, right kids beating each other up to death, putting them 434 00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:58.599 in seizes, putting them in combers, dying parents trying to figure out how 435 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:02.200 to lose my kids, setting my kids school. So there's so much. 436 00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:06.559 This world's got so much, even crazy. It's just not the veterans, 437 00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:09.079 everything you've been paying attention to. It's the reality of what's coming down the 438 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:15.359 road to us. Absolutely, and I think I'm gonna just just absolutely because 439 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:21.000 the goal is collaboration and bringing in people. We have a platform, and 440 00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:24.160 I think we can't heal every single person it just the two of us and 441 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:29.880 and take care of them and educate them. But as a team, we 442 00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:34.319 can't like people like you talking about this issue. We have a group we 443 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.480 started a couple of years ago called twelve Drummers Drumming as part of our organization, 444 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:42.319 and it's a list of legendary drummers who come forward and that we do 445 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:46.319 auctions. Right now, we have an auctions Rocksteady do give smart dot Com 446 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:52.079 and they sign memorabilia and they also speak out around the problems that we have 447 00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:57.759 around trauma and general that come to events. We have folks like Joey Kramer 448 00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:02.440 for em Rassman, and there's Joey and Wally Ingram from Sheryl Crow and Todd 449 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:07.359 Trushaman from Styx, and the list goes on, and they're all showing up 450 00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:12.039 because they understand trauma and and they're speaking about it as well. I think 451 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:15.920 we need to be champions of healing. There's a lot of people that have 452 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:20.639 been through a lot of things and they're overcome it, and we have to 453 00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.480 share how we did it. Not only not only musicians, but also now 454 00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:30.159 we're collaborating with teachers, teachers that are our consciousness teachers and scientists to teach 455 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.800 of what's going on in our brain when we have a we have a disconnect, 456 00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.599 a serious disconnect in our In our younger generation, you think, yeah, 457 00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:40.800 well, the thing is, they don't they not even know what it's 458 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.119 head and mind disconnect and mind disconnect. We're in a crazy world right now, 459 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:50.920 so we have to emulate what is healed ourselves. The way to help 460 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:54.199 another person is to heal yourself and teach someone how you did it. And 461 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.280 that's why they see heal people, heal people and hurt people. Hurt people 462 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.880 one percent. It starts from us. It starts from us, and once 463 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:06.000 we heal us, we work with our own families, we work with our 464 00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:09.039 community, and then it's a ripple effect and then we come on and shows 465 00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.840 like this and we talk to you, and then the people that are listening 466 00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.039 can go, how can I change things? Can I? How can I 467 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.639 change things in my family? How can I change things for myself? But 468 00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.079 here in lies the problem that I see is that Rick, if you could 469 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:27.880 talk to Rick at fifteen or how old you were and you got on the 470 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.960 accident twenty one, twenty, if Rick today could talk to a twenty one 471 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:36.760 year old Rick, he would give him good advice. But twenty one year 472 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:40.000 old talking to twenty one year old Rick, you thought what you're twenty one? 473 00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:44.480 Like, life has no meaning. I'm just gonna go and enjoy my 474 00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:50.199 life like we can't get If we could get younger people to think a little 475 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.599 bit more maturely and look at life like, what would you say to yourself 476 00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:57.840 today at twenty one and twenty one? Yeah, I'm gonna get a roll 477 00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.400 this car. I'm gonna do what I want to do. And it's a 478 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.159 cocky attitude that we all have at that age, and some of the more 479 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.480 punky than others. I know I was kind of punky. I didn't take 480 00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.480 any from nobody, right, that was nothing happened. If I wasn't so 481 00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.719 full of myself, I may be sitting here with two arms. But there 482 00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:20.239 again, if I was, if I had two arms, we probably wouldn't 483 00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:24.000 be having this conversation to start with. So in many ways, you know, 484 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:29.239 people have said, well, you know, what would you do differently? 485 00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:34.880 And the first time you Rick talking to twenty one year Rick, Yeah, 486 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.440 well, just having a five minute if you go back five minutes in 487 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:42.480 time that day, what would you say, Just have the patients and stay 488 00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.719 behind the car. I think I think that, Yeah, you know, 489 00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:54.599 the tendency to be hot headed or you know, to to have a short 490 00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:59.599 fuse. You know, if if somebody was in my way, if there 491 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.920 was a car are in my way that wouldn't let me pass, then the 492 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.880 lesson would have been patience. Isn't it funny? You know you're in a 493 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:15.159 hurry and you're always sitting behind the slowest driver on the pope, always on 494 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.039 my way here tonight, yes, yeah, so, and the idiot doesn't 495 00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:24.280 want to move. But it's that you go like, well, maybe I'm 496 00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:31.320 sitting behind this car or this truck or this railway crossing. I'm sitting here 497 00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:37.960 for a reason. Maybe just that little bit of time difference is going to 498 00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:44.079 save me from something far worse. But we don't think that way. We 499 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:50.320 don't think. So when you're doing what you do, can you get into 500 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:54.079 kids' heads? Like, can you get into these kids that thought the way? 501 00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.679 He thought the way look at everybody in this room at twenty one, 502 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.440 two, twenty five, twenty eight, at a younger age, like life 503 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:04.719 is precious. We don't know life is. I knew life was precious when 504 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.599 I had gave birth to Samantha. That was a game changer for me. 505 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:09.119 Right, you hold this baby and you go, oh my god, my 506 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:14.800 holy, oh my god. My whole life changed. So if we can 507 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:19.000 get into young kids' heads, that's what I try to do. That's where 508 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.599 I donate my time trying to talk to these kids. Teach them the skill 509 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:27.159 gap, teach them the trades. Get into the trades. Not every kid's 510 00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:31.000 made for college. Calm down the cockiness, calm down that behavior. Life 511 00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:35.159 is precious. I just want my son all the time, right, He 512 00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.079 thinks life's been whatever. You I'll just go out and be a thirteen year 513 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:43.320 old daughter. You understand that mindset, and I think you're doing everything you 514 00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.360 say is the most essential is to give them a voice, let them know 515 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:52.840 they're significant, that there, that their their opinions matter, and teach them 516 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:57.719 how to listen to their intuition and be able to vocalize it and validate them 517 00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.599 and teach them. They think a little weird this generation. They're very weird. 518 00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:05.519 I see, I'm very little bit acial. I see a very food, 519 00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:10.199 superficial mindset. And because of social media, I think, and you 520 00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:14.280 know, even if you come from the most holistic home with a lot of 521 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:21.280 integrity, uh, they're still exposed to that mindset as being better and you 522 00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.840 know, more innovative and cool and and that's okay, that's how they're going 523 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:30.079 to think. But in the end, your roots kind of will steer you 524 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:32.199 at some point in your life because you have to make a decision on what 525 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:35.679 kind of person you want to be. Can we just bring back some old 526 00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:40.400 school values, some old some of the I did that with my kids. 527 00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:45.519 I did, and having them around the grandparents and having that's been important to 528 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:50.400 me. Right, they seem pretty normal. Yeah, she seems pretty normal. 529 00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.920 She's my cuckoo eries right, and then I get a cuckoo she. 530 00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:58.280 You know, it's one thing to love your children, but when you can 531 00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:01.599 honestly say I like you, I like her like I love my children, 532 00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:06.280 but I like her. There are days I don't like her, but I 533 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:08.679 always love her, right, But there's more days I like her, and 534 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:13.599 then I get the virgo. I love him, and then there are days 535 00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:15.440 I don't like him, And you don't you want to like your child. 536 00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.000 Once you like your children, you know you're going down to good path. 537 00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:21.480 Although I thought we're going to break. I'm Sidy Stump when you listened to 538 00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:32.880 w BZ News Radio ten thirty and we'll be right back and welcome back to 539 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:37.320 taugh as Nails. I'm Cindy STUMPO and WBZ News Radio ten thirty. Go 540 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.400 ahead, you take us out. I just want to remind people to go 541 00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:45.440 and visit us. How do they find your Ravendrumfoundation dot org. I'll come 542 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:51.320 see us on social media. Lauren Monroe Live, Rick Allen Live, and 543 00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.280 just take an interest in becoming part of our community and healing through music and 544 00:40:54.320 --> 00:41:01.280 alternative medicine and supporting first responders, veterans and people enter crisis. Music is 545 00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:04.440 the key. I think music is the way for all of us to come 546 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:08.559 together. As there any boxes or yeah, yeah, I'll be coming back 547 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:14.559 to Boston with Deve Leppard, I think fifth of August and then people can 548 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.079 check out where else in the country we're going to be. But we love 549 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:22.840 coming to Boston, so we'll see August fifth fantastic at Fanway Park. Okay, 550 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:25.880 everybody, have a great, safe weekend. This is Cindy Stampo w 551 00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:29.159 BZ News Radio ten thirty. We'll see you next weekend.