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Cobblestone on Maine and one on nine
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It's the kind of place when you
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you're welcomed and kind of like going
home. You know, everybody's friendly,

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very friendly staff, an upscale bar. You gonna have all kinds of craft

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cocktails and craft beers. Intimate dining
with delicious food like Cajun dusted scallops over

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Spanish rice and red beans doesn't sound
amazing, and all the food is locally

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sourced. You got grilled pork chops. My favorite is this the Brussels sprout

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hash made of butternut squashed Brussels sprouts, honey pecans and cinnamon crasins over an

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apple cider reduction. Delicious. And
then there's entertainment tonight just Jumbo playing in

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the big front window from six to
nine. Well, it's a little stage

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up there, but it's perfect.
It just adds to the atmosphere, a

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warm, welcoming atmosphere. Look,
it's an eighteen hundreds cobblestone church that's filled

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with a different kind of spirit,
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sip it, and experience it.
One on nine in West main Street in

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the Bill Moran Podcast. Well Hello
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on, Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word about

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the pirate ship. Speaking of spread
the word, right, it's all word

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of mouth. That's the greatest thing
in business, is it not, mister

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Danielle, it is. That's how
you get places. That is how you

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get places. Anthony Daniellie, what
an interesting life you've you've had. When

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I when I was kind of going
through all the businesses, I didn't realize

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all the businesses that you had a
hand in it owning. Yeah, I

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mean it's been it's been a heck
of a run. And you know,

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I am full disclosure, I am
fifty one years old, so you know,

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I'd like to think I've got a
little more to go, but it's

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it's been a heck of a ride. And you know, certainly from the

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begetting and you know, probably best
known for our restaurant days back in the

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Mario's East Avenue and then Mario's Via
BRUTESI days, and that's probably where I

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spent well over half of my life. Well what was it like that,

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Let's start there. What was it
like growing up your your dad? Are

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you both your parents from Italy?
Both of my parents were born in a

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little tiny town in the mountains of
a Bruzzi, Italy. Okay. In

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its heyday, the population of that
town was about five hundred. Okay,

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now the population is about one hundred
and fifty because they had a big earthquake

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there, o story, and they're
rebuilding. But it's you know, fourteen

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years and they're still trying to figure
out how to rebuild. So what was

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it like being first generation American?
I mean, what kind of influence was

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that, because I feel like the
mentality is different. I think I don't

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know, but I would think your
dad saw great opportunity here. Yeah,

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my dad came over literally, you
know, with a couple bucks in his

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pocket, right through Canada. My
mom came over because her dad passed away

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when she was nine years old,
and my grandmother brought her and her two

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siblings over from Italy, starting with
nothing. My grandmother worked at Hicky Freeman.

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But you know, it really is
a family of work ethic. You

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know, from an early age,
my parents involved us in the restaurant business,

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whether it was wiping silverware, and
you know, I'm not sure it

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was necessarily them teaching. I think
it was more you know, I had

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two parents and they were both working
ninety hours a week, and so our

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daycare was the restaurant and the servers
and the dishwashers. And while you're there

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at daycare, you might as well
wipe something. So that's you know,

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that's kind of how the work ethics
started. But it's funny to me because

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you know, so I'm a majority, if not all, of my family

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is from Ireland. But you know, I had a great grandmother that came

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over at nine, somewhat of an
indentured serving in that she would wash clothes

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for a family that she lived with
and then slowly got her sisters over and

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that sort of thing. I feel
like there's this work ethic and then you

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know, you get down two or
three generations not been here, a little

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spoiled. Yeah, it's all good, and we almost I don't know if

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we. I don't want to say
take advantage. We don't take advantage.

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We we sort of see the flaws
and yeah, why and you know they

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worked so hard to get you where
you were that you don't appreciate it.

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I feel like there's a lack of
appreciation curally a quandary. My brother Danny

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and I. Yeah, business partners, and obviously we've grown up together and

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have the same situation. I have
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trying to get them to a point
where they appreciate you know, exactly what

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you're talking. Yeah, you know
I saw my parents work hard. Yeah,

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our kids saw my brother and I
work hard, but we had a

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lot cooler shit. Yes, we
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there, you know. I mean, I have to give my kids credit.

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They're all pretty hard working kids.
It is tough when it's like,

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hey, work really hard, but
you need next week off because we're all

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going to Cancun and we're staying at
the Ritz Carlton. You know, it's

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it's you know, it's kind of
hard to put the impact of you know,

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well that That's what I'm saying,
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yet that's the standard by what you
live and you want to stay at.

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But for your dad, your dad
has to be I feel very proud of

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everything that he I mean, it's
an empire, right, I mean,

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it's become a minim the American dream. Uh, you know, and even

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beyond it, I don't think my
father ever even imagined where we are today.

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He started out. Sure, I
think for him, the thought of

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owning a house, owning a car, you know, having a wad of

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money in his pockets so that he
could pay for dinner, not on credit.

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I think for him, probably back
in those days, that was his

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idea of you know, shangri la. I mean that. And and now

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obviously we've been blessed, we've we've
done very well. And uh, you

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know, again trying to keep everybody
grounded in the family and just you know,

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and certainly realizing that, you know, the secret to happiness is not

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money. No, I mean,
it's sure as hell doesn't hurt. Well,

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I mean money, but money to
me is freedom. It's freedom.

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It makes choices a lot easier.
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it's not happiness. I mean,
you know, there's a lot of families

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out there with a lot of money, and we read about them every even

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miser and they're miserable. Yeah.
Uh. And frankly, a lot of

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the joy in life is creating stuff. And when you walk into the world

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with a lot of stuff, you
know, what the hell are you going

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to do for me? Well,
you're so comfortable, right, You're so

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comfortable, You're not hungry. Look, it's a it's a different world.

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Your kids grow up with air conditioning
and flat screen TVs and video games and

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you know, and social media and
the whole world in their hand. Why

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would they do anything? And it
makes you know, I feel like at

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fifty two, I feel like my
grandparents where I look at the world now

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and I'm like, you know,
how are these kids ever going to make

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it from life? You know,
they they're staring at their phones. Nobody

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has any work ethic, especially now
through COVID. You know, everybody's working

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from home in their underwear and their
basement, you know, with PlayStation on

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in the corner. And I'm no, they're not. Look at us they

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are. You're all dressed in a
jacket. You've got PlayStation back here in

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your underwear. Did you always want
to be an entrepreneur yourself? A lot

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of times people sort of go against
the grain. Some people rebel a little

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bit against what the family businesses.
And I don't want to do that.

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I want to do my own thing. But always wanted that. We rebelled.

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My brother and I rebelled by going
to college in Auburn, Alabama.

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Both of you did, both of
us did, which you know, I

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mean for for a family from Italy. Uh you know, the word Alabama

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in itself is kind of kin to
Ghana, Africa, you know, like

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you're going where, right, and
uh, you know, but that was

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our way of getting away from Rochester, getting away from our parents. And

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we got away and we had a
great time and we learned a lot and

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uh, you know, towards the
end of that stint, we certainly had

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opportunities. I had a job offer
from Coca Cola in Atlanta, yeah,

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you know, and there was you
know at that time, especially Atlanta was

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hot and growing and Coca Cola was
so huge rush company. I thought,

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you know, you could be the
next Gordon Gecko and uh, you know,

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run a big company someday. And
but you know, really looked at

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it, cherish our family where we
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And my father never pressured us to
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which is probably the biggest reason we
did. I think if he had pushed

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us into it, are we may
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very much like, hey, I'm
comfortable if you guys want to come on

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board, we'll grow this thing together. If you're not I'll finish doing what

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I'm doing. I'm happy and comfortable
and God bless you guy. And so

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my brother and I came back and
we took it from there. You know,

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you asked, you know, what, what did I envision for my

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future? I had no idea.
I knew bussing tables, I knew washing

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dishes, I knew you know,
work in the front desk of a restaurant.

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What did you learn from that experience? Though, I'd say the biggest

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gift of working through our restaurant career
are the people we met and the ability

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to communicate with people. You know, being comfortable with people you know,

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you know, certainly you know as
as you know I was involved in politics.

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You know that passion came from talking
with people, listening to people bitch

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and bitching myself. And then you
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my dad smacked me in the back
of the head and say, hey,

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if you're gonna bitch, get up
and go do something about it. Hence,

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you know, my political career.
I'm curious just to take a step

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back for a minute, take me
back to the decision to go to Auburn.

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And your brother's older than you,
so he went. He younger.

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He's younger than you. You went
first. He looks older. I actually

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I don't know, so you went
first. What was the decision for Auburn?

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I mean talk about culture shock?
Right, you grow up here,

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but you grow up here with parents
that do you speak Italian? I speak

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fluent Italian, so you're bilingual and
you can go and you're going to go

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down to Auburn, Alabama? A
very different part of the world, beautiful

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but very different. Was it culture
shock for you? Was there? I

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mean, just being away from home
at any college been culture shocks. The

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biggest culture shock was was more being
away from home, not necessarily in the

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state of Alabama, although that certainly
added another layer to you know, the

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accent. The speeds moved in Alabama
as much slower than what we're used to

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in New York. You know,
the culture and the things that people enjoy

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doing down there are different rodeos and
cowboy boots that you know are becoming a

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little more fad today. But sure, but back then I heard of up

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here and uh, yeah, so
that that was what years It's like,

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nineteen ninety one. Well, I
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Yeah, and I was there till
ninety three and my brother came in

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ninety one to you know whatever that
is. Yeah, okay, yeah,

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so that was that was a great
experience. You know, I know a

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lot of kids are going to school
down south now. I mean it's just

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frankly a more conservative part of the
world and not you know, not that

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necessarily. I'm not bringing it politics, No, it just is. But

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you know, more conservative people tend
to be happier. I think the fact

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that their son on your face,
yes, is probably the biggest reason that

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your vitamin D and you know,
the ladies aren't bad to look at down

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there, and you know, it's
just a great environment. Uh you come

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back, what so when does do
the things come into play? Like basils

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I think was also the marina,
All these things do they come Well,

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you come back and it kind of
the restaurant really seems to grow. And

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then the sauce right getting that into
stores. So it's not you're not buying

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it just at the restaurant. What
is that whole process like to where now

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it's become all these I mean,
boy, I mean I would say that

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you know, one of the things
my father instilled in us is that hospitality

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is more than just hotels and restaurants, and that if you can take the

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philosophy of hospitality like we had at
Mario's, yeah, you can translate that

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into the marina business, the car
wash business. You know, where you're

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interacting with people and if you can
make people happy and feel good about what

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they're spending their money on, right
apt to succeed in that business. So,

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youge, it changed when we went
to car washes and the marinas,

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but basically the philosophy stayed the same. And to be honest with most of

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the employees that are running our marinas
and ran the car washes for us were

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people that worked for us in the
restaurant business. And so you know,

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it wasn't again the widget changed,
but the philosophy, the culture that didn't

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change. So even working for you
the work family, that's you know,

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people staying with you. Yeah,
right, that that's a wonderful thing.

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Yeah, And I would say,
you know, I thought about, you

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know, talking to you today and
you know, you know, growing up

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Danielly and thinking about you know,
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know, my experience through fifty years, and it really has been the employees,

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the culture that we created at our
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the marinas, at the car washes. We've we've employed thousands of people in

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the Rochester area over the past you
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been involved, and uh, you
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would say ninety eight point five percent
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we loved having them there, and
it truly was a family culture and we

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supported each other and still to this
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with hundreds and hundreds of my former
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the place, and it's always a
hug and a story that we recount from

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back in those days. And so
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most rewarding part of my career is
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when you're no, you won't know. And you know, you look at

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other employers, and you look at
other job situations where you know, people

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get treated like shit. Management doesn't
really care, and you know, and

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that's a part of business. But
sad, I always think like business is

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very cold at times, right,
and there's no feeling involved, and you

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have to make decisions and we have
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the human element out of it.
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the problem with politics to they in
that we say, well, we want

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somebody who's going to run it like
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about feelings and we're trying to do
all this stuff about feelings, and it

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takes the place of decisions sometimes,
and that that that that's a tough thing.

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That's the problem with with politics now, with government right now, is

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that it really is a business.
Yes, and and and we are electing

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people that are not familiar with business. You know, if you have cancer

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and you go to an electrician and
say, can you help me with my

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cancer? Yeah? Uh, you
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in the world and all the great
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the wrong person for the jobs.
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government today. You know, nationally, state, local. Well let's let's

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take just one little uh moment here. But when we come back, you

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have a lot going on, You
had a lot going on all these restaurants

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and things. But were you bored
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sure to like and subscribe to Vilified
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was it that brought you then into
politics? Because you have That's why I

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said, were you bored in that? There's so many things going on in

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your life, it's almost that you
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that brought you in? Yeah?
I mean, you know, part of

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it is variety is the spice of
life, okay. I mean, you

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have to do other things in your
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to do every day or else life
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honestly, it stems back. My
brother and I were both Eagle Scouts

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when younger. We did Boy Scouts
Eagle Scouts, So there's always been a

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sense of civic duty. My brother
became a Monroe County Sheriff's deputy for six

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years. He went through the academy. He was a part time sheriff's deputy

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during running restaurants and creating the car
washes and everything else. Yeah, so

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that was kind of his civic duty. My brother's a little more low key

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than I am, so you know, people don't hear about him quite as

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much as I do. But and
my sense of politics, like I said,

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you know, going around the restaurant, going table to table, listening

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to people bitch about current events,
having my own opinions and bitching myself and

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then saying, hey, you know
what, if you're going to bitch about

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it, why don't you get involved
and see what this is all about.

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I ran for office in two thousand
and seven and was elected to the Munroe

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County Legislature, and I served there
for ten years. Ten years because there's

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term limits, which are probably a
good thing. And so after ten years,

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you know, I took a step
back and retired from politics. But

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it was a great it was a
great run. I'm still involved on the

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outskirts, but not as an elected
official because local politics really impact our lives

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more than nationals. Where we live. It's what's happening, it's our community

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and stuff. What are the biggest
challenges you've seen facing local politics? I

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mean facing local politics now. I
think the pressure of national politics playing into

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local politics is a problem. You
know, certainly, you know, when

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you're talking Republicans and Democrats at the
local level, it's shades a gray.

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I mean, you know, everybody's
in it to do the right thing,

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Republicans or Democrats. I mean,
there's extremes which we all know that may

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not agree with our philosophy, but
generally speaking, it's all good people wanting

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to do good things for the community
they live in. But unfortunately, you

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start layering the onion with national politics. You know, people bringing up stuff

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like you know, the war in
Afghanistan or Iraq. And you know how

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many times I was campaigning and they
were like, well, what's your stance

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on abortion? And it's like listen, I mean, you know they're not

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going to ask your local county legislator
to weigh in on abortion laws. It

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just doesn't work that way. And
now I'm not saying that it doesn't frame

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your opinion of me, so I
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But you know, really we're talking
about your local budget, your schools,

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public safety, roads and bridges,
community which, by the way,

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matters. I mean, just some
of our bridges and roads. It's a

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disaster. And I were spending billions
of dollars every year. And again,

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most of the bridges are more of
a state issue, Yes they are,

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and unfortunately, I think Upstate gets
ignored, and I think that's a problem

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in politics. And you know,
I don't think any of your listeners want

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to hear too much about politics.
No, but it is a shit show.

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Yeah, to put it in a
summary, it's a shit show.

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And I think in general, we
have the wrong people doing the job.

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And again, this is not a
Republican or Democrat thing. This is you

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know, if you want somebody who's
going to straighten out the infrastructure of the

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state of New York, you know, a former school teacher or a lawyer

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or somebody like that is not the
expert in that. No, you know,

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if that's your priority, then you
need to focus on that priority and

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put the right person to do that
job. Yeah, there's it's just an

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interesting philosophy. I think a lot
of times what we want and then what

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we get or what we elect and
what it's It's very confusing. But that's

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how you and I met. Do
you remember this? No? I don't.

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Okay. So I lived in your
district, okay, And you sent

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out letters congratulating college students who made
the Dean's list. So there were two

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letters that showed up at my house
for two different kids. And I was

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on the radio at that point on
CMF, and I came in and I

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sort of poked fun on like,
look at this, he's new to politics,

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and it doesn't Now it's not you
that I mean, it's you that's

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sending it out, but I'm sure
it's somebody else. I was there till

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two in the morning writing these letters
by hand. No, but I'm saying,

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you're not mailing them, right,
there's okay. So they come in.

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So we were kind of poking fun
at you, and then we call

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you, we call the restaurant,
and somehow I think word had gotten out

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that we were going to do this. We were going to call you.

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We were waiting for the restaurants to
open. We started talking this about like

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seven thirty eight o'clock. So now
nine, we're going to call somebody answers

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and they say he's unavailable. And
then all of a sudden, your voice

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appears because you got word, and
I went, that's when I just had

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my whole opinion of you was formed
at that moment, because I went,

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this is a guy who got a
good sense of humor, was willing to

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play with us. I mean you
did. You played with us, and

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you didn't hide, and not that
that was anything really to hide from.

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It didn't hide. Now that actually
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I don't know if you know that. Okay. So the letter for

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one of them was for a student
at the time named Klotts. He went

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to Syracuse. His last name was
Klatts, and people started calling up saying,

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oh, his mom's so hot and
his dad had passed and blah blah

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blah. So Tommy, who was
on the show with me, went and

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was going to deliver the letter,
and they went and had coffee and now

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they're married, didn't Tommy, Tommy
lived next door to my parents, I

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think for a short period of time
in Pittsford. Yeah he may have.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, but
I did not know that. So all

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of that came from that. My
letter say not only was that politician politician

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slash cupid. Yeah, so absolutely. Then recently you guys decide no longer

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Marios will be really there, And
but you still own all that property,

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correct? Did you own all that
property when the Bowling Alley was there?

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No, So we bought the bowling
Alley. Gosh, now it's got to

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be ten twelve years ago. But
when we had Marios, we did not

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own the Bowling Alley. We bought
that later on, and you know,

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rewind a little bit every one of
our business ventures when you say we've done

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this, that and the other,
it all started with some kind of real

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estate deal, okay, you know. And one of the things that my

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father, you know, taught us
at a very young age was that at

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the end of the day, it's
the real estate deal that's going to make

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you money in the long run,
you know, making money in the restaurant

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business, that's how you get a
paycheck every day so you can live this

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year when you get to a certain
age, and you can't work in the

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restaurant anymore. If you own the
real estate. Now you own something,

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you can sell it and that's your
retirement. You can rent it out,

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that's your retirement. You can smash
it down and build a whole foods that's

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your retirement. So, you know, it's always been real estate, and

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so the marinas. We got into
the marina business simply because we saw this

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cool piece of real estate at the
south end of Irondoquoi Bay and we were

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like, hey, this is a
good real estate play, and so we

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bought it. Happened to have a
marina, So now we're in the marina

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business. Then we built Basil and
blah blah blah. Now we tore down

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Basil and we built the Bolagio apartments, you know, which is a good

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long term kind of retirement annuity,
if you will. I mean, that's

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our investment. I know a few
people that live in Blagio, our buddy,

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the mayor, p Kennedy, the
many lives there and yeah, a

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lot of great people. So talk
to me then about this whole Foods project

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that went on. It became quite
the conundrum. Yeah, yeah, I

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mean that was definitely. I don't
know if we're definitely across to bear for

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my family over the past ten years, right, you know, we we

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bought the Bowling Alley and the intent, I mean, just real quick,

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the intent of buying the Bowling Alley
was to build a hotel next to Mario's

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via Brutzi. And we had envisioned
transforming Marios via Brutsi into a bigger banquet

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and catering facility because we kind of
saw the writing on the wall that a

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lot of these banquet facilities were either
getting old or closing or et cetera.

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And they were it was harder and
harder to find a place to hold a

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00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:38,920
wedding or a big event. And
uh, and so we tried to build

407
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,839
a hotel. Long story short,
the town told us, you know,

408
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,160
we couldn't build a hotel or it
would be very difficult to build a hotel

409
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,440
on that site, and so we
tacked. We ended up finding Whole Foods

410
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,400
who had a desire to be in
that area. Originally we just wanted them

411
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,079
to go into the Bowling Alley and
they came and visited and they were like,

412
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:00,519
no, actually we want to put
it were Mario's is so we were

413
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:03,880
like, oh shit, well that's
our restaurant. So uh, you know,

414
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,480
we ended up signing at least with
them. We got approvals after many

415
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:11,559
years of trying to build the whole
Foods and then you know the rest of

416
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:15,599
the story. I think the public's
tired of hearing. You know, Wegman's

417
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:18,279
didn't like the idea no food's going
in And there are a bunch of lawsuits

418
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:23,440
that dragged on for several years,
and matter of fact, the lawsuits are

419
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:29,720
still we're one last appeal is being
heard at the end of November and hopefully

420
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:33,799
that'll be it. What what did
you learn from all that? Every everything

421
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:40,920
in life? Every everything it's I
learned. I learned that when Bob Wegman

422
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,200
or Danny Wegman says, every day
you get our best, I learned that

423
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:48,279
that in fact was true, but
not exactly what I thought the first time

424
00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:52,720
I heard it. So I got
that That's what I learned. But I

425
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:56,000
mean in terms of like, because
I have to think at some point,

426
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:03,279
and I don't know your your dad
is still around and probably counseling you guys

427
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:06,079
on some of this stuff and talking
to you about it, and I'm sure

428
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:11,920
I One of the things I admire
about you is the sense of family and

429
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:18,039
how close everybody is. Was there
ever the idea of just saying we're going

430
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:22,279
to pack it up? Then,
you know, obviously there were times where

431
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:26,559
it came up. Sure, I
would think it would have to being Italian,

432
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:32,319
especially in my family. The best
part about it is that we do

433
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,680
not give up. As a matter
of fact, I'm wearing a pin and

434
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,160
having the letters w I T on
it and it says whatever it takes,

435
00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:41,759
whatever it stands for. So we
do not give up. Whatever it takes.

436
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:45,359
We get to where we need to
be or where we want to be.

437
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,359
And again, you can tack a
little bit, but you get to

438
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,680
the finish line. Now that's good
and bad. You're also stubborn to a

439
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:57,839
fault, which is the bad side
of w I T. And so you

440
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,799
know, there was a lot of
time becomes WTF. You know, WTF

441
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,839
comes up every once in a while. I mean, we spent close to

442
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,680
two million dollars in legal fees to
get that whole Foods built in the end,

443
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,559
and you know it's gonna I mean, I'm not saying we won't make

444
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,799
money on that deal, because we
will, but it's going to be a

445
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:18,440
while. I mean, there's a
lot of a lot of ground to make

446
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:23,359
up, and but we got it
done. Do you learn in these situations

447
00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:27,839
to be patient? Yeah, it's
a fine line. You know, it's

448
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,000
really a test trying not to get
angry. Sure, you know, anger

449
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:37,000
is not healthy. I think,
well, yes that. I think one

450
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,480
of the most important things that an
adult can do, and is very I

451
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:48,200
think some adults master it, many
do not, is controlling your emotions because

452
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,759
the world is never going to stop
coming at you no matter what it is.

453
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:56,200
But you got to stay up here
as all this ship comes flying because

454
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,519
you react to it. And that's
that's that's how you'll be remembered. That's

455
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:02,160
what you'll be, you know.
And then it did. Even that can

456
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,079
affect everything. Who wants to do
business with you, who wants to shop,

457
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:09,359
what their opinion is of you,
all these sorts of things. And

458
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:15,359
I think in the end it's it
seems like everything is going pretty smoothly.

459
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,640
It's going smoothly. Now, Yes, that's what I mean to say.

460
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,000
We didn't get angry to say that. How can you know throwing stuff against

461
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:27,279
the wall and and you know,
swearing up and down and you know,

462
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:29,960
I mean, you know, the
thoughts that go through your head when you're

463
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:35,279
when when you're pushed to the brink
are evil and not pleasant. But you

464
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:38,039
know, we have been blessed to
have my father, my brother, and

465
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:42,799
I the three of us working together
every day. So when one of us

466
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:46,559
loses our shit, which happens on
a fairly regular basis, uh, there's

467
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:50,000
the two others who are like,
hey, why don't you sit down for

468
00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,279
a minute, or better yet,
how about I strap you to the wall

469
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:57,200
and make you sit down for a
minute. What do you do to handle

470
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,359
that kind of stuff stress wise?
I mean, you know, we have

471
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,480
hobbies, you know, my politics, Danny's you know, being in Monroe

472
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,920
County sheriff. I'm a pilot.
Both those are stressful things, man,

473
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,359
but they're pilot stress. Ye,
now we talk. It's a different type

474
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,400
of stress. Piloting is very stressful, but it can be. But it's

475
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,559
the type of thing that you have
to be one hundred percent focused on.

476
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:23,119
So when you're one percent focused on
flying a plane, you're not thinking about

477
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,640
all the other bullshit that you're going
to think about when you land. I

478
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,359
always say that I love like racing
cars. Yeah. So I had never

479
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:37,920
done drag racing until this year,
and I always just thought it was like,

480
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,920
you know, I like the road, the road courses, you know,

481
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,680
going into turn, slowing down and
then just punching it as you come

482
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,559
out. All that is just exhilarating. And I can get bored even watching

483
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:52,119
that stuff. But if you're behind
the wheel, it's a whole different world.

484
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:58,519
And I went and did the drag
racing stuff, and dude, I

485
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:01,960
mean I was on a high days, but in those moments, you can

486
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,759
think of nothing else but what you're
doing. It is the closest thing to

487
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,199
zen you're ever going to get.
Now, in a drag race, it's

488
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,239
ten seconds maybe hopefully last, maybe
not. But either way, you know,

489
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,559
if you're describing the first time you've
had sex or drive racing, but

490
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,280
the first time I had sex,
it was even faster. I didn't even

491
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,880
I didn't even make the quarter mile. Yeah, but just those things.

492
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,559
So I think that's what what are
you trained on in in AH planes?

493
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:37,480
So I've been flying for about twelve
years instrument raided, multi engine rated Yeah.

494
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,960
Uh you know, so I fly
up at twenty five thousand feet and

495
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:45,320
you know, landing gear so complex. But yeah, it's just it's a

496
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,039
lot of stuff. And it took
uh, you know, it took two

497
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,519
and a half years to get my
pilot's license. It took me out of

498
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,719
three or four years to get instrument
raided. But it's the journey. Yeah,

499
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,679
and it's the fact. And I'm
still as right now, I'm working

500
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,159
on my commercial pilots like since you
are, not because I have any desire

501
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:06,079
to fly commercially, but it's just
an excuse to keep learning, keep going

502
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:09,559
up with an instructor. Well you
do, you own a plane. So

503
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:14,360
I own a plane with a couple
other guys and we share it to a

504
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,920
single engine. As a matter of
fact, tomorrow morning, I'm flying to

505
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,239
Boston. My son lives in Boston, so I'm going there for the day

506
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,239
and I'll come back tomorrow night.
And uh, it's it's a lot of

507
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,599
fun and it's a it's a super
cool hobby. Yeah, you know,

508
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:28,840
it stresses my wife out a little
bit, I would think so. And

509
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:31,360
you know, safety is certainly a
how do you feel about the single engine?

510
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:35,280
Uh, as long as it's working, I feel great of it.

511
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:40,199
Now it's when it stops that it's
a bit. My uncle was a Navy

512
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:45,199
pilot NAM and then went and worked
for Western Airlines and then Delta, and

513
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,480
he was the union president for Delta. He lives in Park City, and

514
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:52,119
he flew for years and years and
years, and he would always say to

515
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:57,159
you, single engines, Yeah,
yeah, I mean it's we owned a

516
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,639
twin engine, smaller twin engine okay
before this one, you know, and

517
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:05,480
there's you know, not to get
into too much pilot stuff, but twin

518
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:10,599
engine planes are also very dangerous.
Like if you lose one engine on takeoff,

519
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,639
you're in a much worse place with
two engines than you are losing one

520
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:20,519
engine on a single engine, because
the plane wants to flip over and crash,

521
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:22,519
whereas with a single engine, the
plane just wants to glide forward,

522
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,760
which again maybe not a great outcome
either, but at least you're not flipping

523
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,239
over and crashing. And you know, having a single engine plane. Most

524
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:36,000
of my flying is over land.
Most of my flying is over the Northeast,

525
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:39,519
so there's airports everywhere. It's calculated
risk. When I'm up at twenty

526
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:44,719
five twenty twenty five thousand feet,
if I were to lose that engine,

527
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,679
I can glide for thirty to forty
miles before I hit the ground, and

528
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,039
usually there's an airport within fifteen twenty
miles, so it's a calculated risk.

529
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,360
Where do you fly into? For
Boston? Then I fly into Hanscom.

530
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,239
It used to be Hanscom air Force
Base. Okay, so it's a smaller.

531
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,440
It's a smaller. I have flown
into uh, Logan, you did

532
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,760
that once? Yeah, I will
most likely do it again. That was

533
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,199
crazy? Was I was? You
know? So I'm just talking about you

534
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,360
know, I fly over land near
an airport and I go into Logan and

535
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,000
air traffic control sends me way the
hell out over the Atlantic Ocean. Sure,

536
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:20,679
and so not only am I over
the Atlantic Ocean, but now I'm

537
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:23,400
at like three thousand feet because I'm
getting ready to land. So like,

538
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,559
if I lose an engine, then
like i'm sharp food and what happens with

539
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:35,400
the air It's changed. Everything changes. More stress is that they're telling me,

540
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,599
listen, you got to go faster
because there's a seven thirty seven behind

541
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:40,679
you, and I'm in my little
plane pedaling. I'm like, dude,

542
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:44,880
I'm pedaling as fast as I can. Yeah, I can only twist the

543
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,159
rubber band. So much. That's
as fast as this thing goes. And

544
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,280
then as I'm just about to land, They're like, oh, be careful,

545
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,679
you're landing behind a seven forty seven
and there's wake turbulence and sure there

546
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,039
is this, and I'm like,
what the heck am I supposed to do?

547
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,760
Now? You know, you just
land but you did. I landed,

548
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,440
And I just what happens in those
moments with you with with with fear,

549
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:08,440
I mean, those can become some
people panic. What happens to you?

550
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:12,639
Yeah, no, I'm I do
not panic. Yeah, very I

551
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:16,159
would say I'm very cool and collected, very matter of fact. You know.

552
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:20,559
I just you fall into your training, and that's why you train as

553
00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:22,719
much as you do. You just
kind of go into autopilot in your head

554
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,320
and you're scanning your instruments and you're, you know, preparing for all the

555
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,360
things that could happen, and uh, you know, and what are your

556
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,599
plans if those things happen? And
if you're practice it enough, it just

557
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:38,480
kind of happens. Automatical drag racing. Car racing is the same thing.

558
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:43,239
I mean, you know, you
don't figure out what you're going to right

559
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,920
at the time, practice it and
hopefully your body just does what it's supposed

560
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,320
to be. Yeah, because there
is something about you know, people who

561
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,800
do these sorts of things, they
are like really calm. And I don't

562
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,719
know about you, but I I
can get my heart rate really low,

563
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,199
like to the point where I've set
off alarms. Oh you do the same

564
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,079
thing. My resting heart rates about
sixty yeah, and in those situations it's

565
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,159
probably down to like fifty yeah.
Yeah, I mean, and my resting

566
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:12,119
heart rate is in the low fifties. And I've gotten it where I've had

567
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:15,880
an EKG and it went to forty
four yeah, and all arms go off

568
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:19,920
and they go oh, and I
got scared. I'm like, what the

569
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,159
fuck? Yeah, it's just your
your heart rais that's that's a I mean,

570
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,280
a great it's a great thing.
It's a good way to react because

571
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,239
I think in those moments when people
are losing their heads a little bit,

572
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,360
or in these chaotic situations, if
you're not you can't think clearly, and

573
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,159
you have to be able to have
And you see some people that just start

574
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:39,519
flapping both arms up in the air
and like screaming like a little schoolgirl and

575
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,039
Okay, glad that guy's not flying
my plane. And now your situation,

576
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:46,519
does your wife go with you?
Well, Eric does Will she come tomorrow

577
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:50,679
or no, she won't come tomorrow, but she's off in my co pilot.

578
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,800
Yeah, she doesn't know how to
fly the plane, but she's learned

579
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:59,280
enough to be dangerous and she helps
me with the radio and she likes that.

580
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,320
She likes I think what she loves
most is the convenience. Sure fact

581
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,320
that we could literally, you know, after church on Sunday, jump in

582
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,559
the plane and go have lunch with
Michael and Boston and yeah, you know,

583
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,159
shot for a couple hours and be
home for dinner. You know,

584
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,719
I mean, it's it's kind of
a it's a really it is really cool

585
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:21,159
because my brother was flying planes when
he was about sixteen, and then he

586
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:27,000
went to flight school at Indiana Indiana
State and hit a wind sheer had an

587
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,440
engine fail FedEx at the time,
because we grew up kind of downstate,

588
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:36,719
but in the Rhinebeck Millbrook area,
there was the guy from FedEx who owned

589
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,159
or was one of the owners,
said to him, listen, when you

590
00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:43,199
graduate, find me and I'll get
you a job as a pilot. But

591
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,960
my brother was like, I want
to do more and he went. He

592
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:52,639
wound up leaving Indiana State going to
Cornell and he's running hotels and things.

593
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:54,639
Yeah, yeah, I mean being
a professional pilot for the airlines. I

594
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:58,599
mean it's it's kind of a brutal
job. Yeah, especially now with the

595
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:02,239
technology. I mean yeah, pretty
mu much flying a computer game and you're

596
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,159
not really touching anything for hours and
hours and the end. And so you

597
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:09,000
know, my father, you still
it pays, It paid well, But

598
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:12,519
I don't know if it's still pays
well as it used to. I think

599
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:15,840
it does because we're having such a
shortage of pilots. Because my my father

600
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,119
used to jokingly refer to his brother
as a glorified bus driver. Yeah,

601
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:23,079
but you know, he flew all
over the world. Talk to me about

602
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:29,199
COVID and how that affected all the
businesses that you owned, and we hear

603
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,679
and you know, I have no
idea, but from people I know who

604
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,320
own restaurants and things, how hard
it is to get people to actually work.

605
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:40,400
Are you finding that now? Yeah? I mean, you know,

606
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:46,119
we we timed it perfectly. You
know, that was just luck and nothing

607
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:51,280
else. But you know, we
closed our last restaurant, which was Basilon

608
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:57,800
Arondequoit Bay. I think we closed
it November before COVID, so two or

609
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,480
three months before really it started rolling
out. And you know, since then

610
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:06,119
we had the car wash businesses.
But the car wash is a little less

611
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:09,840
intense employee wise. But yet the
employment market out there is really difficult.

612
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:16,039
You know, it's it stems partially
from nobody really wants to do service jobs

613
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:24,360
anymore. Right, there are fewer
restaurants that that can survive in this environment.

614
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,920
And what you're seeing, I mean, you know, the thing I've

615
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,360
noticed the most, and this is
not a knock on restaurants, is that,

616
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,400
you know, the quality of service
has plummeted, and not because the

617
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,840
servers don't know what they're doing,
but because they're expected to do way more.

618
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,679
So. You know, when we
were in the restaurant business, one

619
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,920
server would take care of three or
four tables, Yeah, and now they're

620
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,159
taking care of six to eight tables, right because they can. So you

621
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,079
know, again, not a knock
on their ability to serve, it's a

622
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:54,760
knock on you know, what the
hell do you want from them? They're

623
00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:00,000
serving eight tables and I remember it
was tough to keep quality at four tables.

624
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:04,639
So but restaurants need to do that
because they can't afford. You know,

625
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,000
in our day, we used to
pay servers to three dollars an hour

626
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:10,079
and then they made their money on
tips. Right you know, now servers

627
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:13,880
are making ten bucks an hour.
Whatever it is. I don't know exactly

628
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,800
what it is right now. You
know, minimum wage has gone up,

629
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:21,400
which is fine, but you know, line cooks that used to make sixteen

630
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,000
eighteen dollars an hour and now are
making twenty two, twenty five dollars an

631
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:28,599
hour. And so, you know, restaurant prices, food prices have gone

632
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:31,159
through the roof, and you know, people seem to be willing to pay

633
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:35,079
it. I mean I go around
to restaurants that they're all impacked. They're

634
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,199
at least around here, and you
know in some of the bigger cities for

635
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,639
sure. But it's a tough business. And even even at those prices,

636
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,360
being as busy as they are,
they're all understaffed. They're all, you

637
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,119
know, making money. But I
don't think they're making a ton of money.

638
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:52,519
I mean, they're they're doing okay, and it's tough after COVID,

639
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:55,840
I don't you know again, I'm
I'm at an age now where I just

640
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,320
don't get it. And and you
know, I don't know what these young

641
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,199
whipper snappers are going to do with
the rest of their lives. But you

642
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:06,360
know, everybody wants to wear a
coat and tie, and you know,

643
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,719
work for a big company and and
uh, well they don't want to wear

644
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,960
a coat and tie. They want
to be in their basement in their underwear.

645
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:15,559
Well that I think that. You
know, so many people want to

646
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:20,480
be an influencer on social media.
There's all the different things. Look,

647
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:23,519
I say this this phrase a lot
people want to do podcasts. Well,

648
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:28,199
I mean this is the thing though, but it's cool, but it is.

649
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,599
The barrier to entry is gone.
But no matter what it is,

650
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,320
you got to be willing to hustle. You have to work, have to

651
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,639
hustle. You got to hustle,
and you got cours to you. You're

652
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:39,440
doing a great job. Well thank
you. You provide great entertainment. What

653
00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:45,480
is the uh when when you look
back, what's most important to you right

654
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:49,360
now? Right now? I know
the answer? Yeah, I mean it

655
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,360
goes back to family. Yeah,
I was going to say that. I

656
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,400
mean, going to spend the day
with your son tomorrow. What a cool

657
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:59,480
thing. That's awesome. Yeah,
you know, prioritizing family and just uh,

658
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:04,480
favoring the time we have and trying
to you know, leave a positive

659
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,079
impact on the environment around me.
I mean, you know, I think

660
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:13,079
we've done great things in our business
that has benefited more than just us.

661
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:16,440
I mean, it's certainly benefited us, but I think it's benefited the community.

662
00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:20,639
You know, my my role in
politics, I think I benefited the

663
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:24,280
community. I benefited myself, of
course, you know. So now it's

664
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,679
just kind of what's that next thing? And you know, it's not accumulating

665
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,559
more stuff, you know, and
yeah, I love to travel, but

666
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,119
you know, once you're traveling,
you're like, Okay, I kind of

667
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:37,360
want to go home now, you
know. That's what everybody finds, and

668
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,239
so kind of figuring out what's next. My kids are twenty five, twenty

669
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,199
three, and eighteen, so we're
kind of waiting to see what happens with

670
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,679
them. Where are they going to
settle down? None of them are married,

671
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,519
and so that's kind of the next
big step. So really, you

672
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:55,760
know, it's kind of we're in
a weird stage of life where you're trying

673
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,440
to figure out what's next and what's
the purpose of life? At this point.

674
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:00,599
Yeah, you know, to your
point. You know, if I

675
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,480
was broken having to work ninety hours
a week, it'd be pretty easy to

676
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,320
figure out what I'm doing next week, you know. But you know,

677
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,719
I've been blessed that I'm not worrying
about that. I still go to work

678
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,960
every day. Yes, and we
still have stuff, and we're doing stuff,

679
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:17,519
but we're doing it because we like
to do it and not because we

680
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:21,800
have to do it, which just
does change the mentaliting things. Yeah,

681
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:23,679
changes the mentality. That's it's where
you want to get to. I mean,

682
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,719
I have to think. I don't
know if you ever said it,

683
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,559
but how proud is your dad of
what you and your brother have done with

684
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,840
what he started? Yeah? Where
you took it? Yeah, I think

685
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,199
you know, my dad's over the
moon, and but you know he's in

686
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,960
a similar situation. He spent his
whole life creating. Yeah, you know,

687
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:47,639
and now him and my mom are
seventy seven years old and certainly enjoying

688
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:52,280
life. But you know, one
of the things you never learn how to

689
00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:57,239
really enjoy life, Right, You
work your ass off so that you can

690
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,159
afford to go to Disney World for
a week in February, and then you

691
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:01,440
work your ass off for another year
to see if you can go back to

692
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,920
Disney World in February, And when
you finally get to a point where you

693
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,679
don't have to work your ass off
anymore, it's like, well, what

694
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,039
am I going to do now?
Right? Is he bored a little bit?

695
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,400
Yeah? Yeah, really, I
would say he's a little bit bored.

696
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,760
He goes to Italy during the summer, he has family there, and

697
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,159
he goes to Florida in the winter, and he has a lot of friends

698
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:22,440
there. But you know, at
seventy seven, the number of friends starts

699
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,760
to dwind. You know, people
have health problems and pass away, and

700
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,119
so you know, that's kind of
the magic of when you're past fifty sixty

701
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:37,400
years old is making sure you're savoring
every day and not stopping. You know,

702
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,920
you see too many people that just
stop. Well this is the thing.

703
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,960
I mean, look, the Rolling
Stones are putting out an album on

704
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:46,199
Friday, and there is eighty years
old. So that's the Would you say

705
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,960
your dad's the one who had the
biggest influence on your life? Oh?

706
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,400
Absolutely, I would say my dad
and my brother and you bro, you

707
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,960
know, the younger brother, the
younger brother, and you know he's younger,

708
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,679
but I mean we're essentially the same
age as you know. Yeah,

709
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,559
and you know, we have an
office about the size of your studio with

710
00:48:04,599 --> 00:48:07,159
two desks in it, and we're
in the same room. And we're in

711
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:10,000
the same room every day, you
know, Monday through Friday, eight nine

712
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,440
hours a day. And that's been
that way our whole lives. So you

713
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,320
know, we've been a part of
each other's lives and grown this thing together

714
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,039
with my father's influence. And yeah, we're very proud of what we've created

715
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:27,719
and excited to keep going. Who
gave you the best advice? Would it

716
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,960
be your dad who gave you the
best advice? When you think that,

717
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,840
you know, it's hard to pinpoint
one piece of advice. I'd say the

718
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:39,039
life lessons are a series that started
when we were a little kid, mostly

719
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:43,639
from my father, and you know, just in the businesses themselves, watching

720
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:46,960
our businesses succeed, you know,
and you know, don't get me wrong,

721
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,199
I mean there were times when we
opened Mario's via Brutsi in nineteen ninety

722
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,559
five, you know, we were
on the verge of bankruptcy for about two

723
00:48:55,639 --> 00:49:00,920
years where we couldn't pay the bills, and thanks to some of the purveyors

724
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,320
out there, local people that we
did business with. Palmers is one big

725
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,440
one, you know that they were
Kip is really about people, Yeah,

726
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:13,840
Kip, Kip is a Kip is
a blessing to the community. And if

727
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,719
it weren't for Kip, you know, he could have easily crushed us if

728
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:21,119
he wanted to. Fortunately, we
were not buying provisions from Wegmans at the

729
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:23,519
time, but we you know,
Kip, Kip extended us credit. He

730
00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:25,519
worked with us, you know,
and he saw, you know, we

731
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:29,320
had good work ethic and if anybody
could make it happen, we could,

732
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,559
and he had faith in us,
and and you know, certainly we made

733
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:36,400
good on everything for Kip. Absolutely, but you know, so it's not

734
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:39,320
always rosy, and it's certainly you
know, it's easy to look back and

735
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,440
be like, oh, look at
all the ship we have and the stuff

736
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,840
we created. But it wasn't all
easy. And you know, there were

737
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:51,039
a lot of in those moments with
the whatever it takes, what is that?

738
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:53,159
What is whatever it takes? What's
the pin from? Is there an

739
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,079
organization? No, it's just us. We made it up. This is

740
00:49:57,159 --> 00:50:01,360
just what Daniellye family companies. It's
on the pin. It says passion and

741
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:07,400
intensity on the bottom. And that's
our company. What's the company name.

742
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,440
It's Daniellefim Company. Yeah, that's
what we call it. And I will

743
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,719
gift you the pen. Wow,
I may have another one where that came

744
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:20,800
from. I love this, but
it's something that we award to our employees

745
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,320
who go above and beyond and do
whatever it takes to make something happen.

746
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,360
And it's a you know, it's
just a it's a philosophy. It's a

747
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,920
kind of a guiding principle that says, you know, set your mind,

748
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:36,119
set your focus on the end result, and do whatever it takes to get

749
00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:39,199
there, you know, relentless pursuit
of that success, whatever that means.

750
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,000
And certainly you can change your goals
as you go through. And that's one

751
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:47,239
of the things that you know,
I impress upon my kids is you know,

752
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,639
have a vision, you know,
know where you're going when you start

753
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:54,159
going there, have a goal and
if you want to change it, change

754
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:58,440
it. You're not locked in.
But if you have no goal when you

755
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,039
wake up every day, uh,
you know, odds are better than not

756
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:05,440
that you're going to be wasting that
day of your life. As you get

757
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,760
older, you realize you don't have
right. There's yeah, time is something

758
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,719
you can't buy back, right,
and there isn't satisfaction and just living a

759
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,840
day And you're sitting on the couch
at seven thirty and I'm watching something stupid

760
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,719
on TV and you're like, what
did I do today? Nothing? Yeah,

761
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,880
that sucks. That's a funny thing
that you say that. Satisfaction is

762
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:28,360
such a thing. That's where I
believe so much. And we talk about

763
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,360
self esteem with kids and stuff.
It's about satisfaction. It's about doing it

764
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:38,840
yourself, getting that a you know, you see coaches scream Alabama over the

765
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:44,199
weekend. I'm watching, uh,
Nick Saban just scream at the players and

766
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,480
they're winning. But that's when you
can really yell at the kids. It's

767
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:51,760
like, you know, because they're
feeling good because they're doing well, but

768
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,360
it's you know the other side.
You got to be able to coach that.

769
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:59,639
But there's something about real satisfaction,
real accomplishment that has that that just

770
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:04,239
makes you want more and push yourself
further and push yourself. Think an Auburn

771
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,679
guy, we call him Nick Satan. He is he is talented, you

772
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:13,199
know and exactly what you're saying.
The best coaches out there are, the

773
00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:15,199
best teams are coached by the best
coaches. You can have, all the

774
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,639
talent in the world, you know
sc talk. I mean, you know,

775
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,119
Texas A and M is probably more
talent than I would say almost any

776
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:28,840
other team college football, and yet
they struggle to win. And it's you

777
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,280
know, I think they have fragmented
coaching and you know, whatever it comes

778
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:36,440
down to coaching. Well, this
has been very interesting. I appreciate you

779
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,119
making the time and absolutely and you
can call me anytime. I enjoy the

780
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:46,239
banter, I enjoy the impromptu h
a conversation. I can run into you,

781
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:52,320
you know, around Pittsford anywhere it
may or may not have happened,

782
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,239
done more than one occasion, may
may or may not have That is right.

783
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:00,880
Well, thank you Anthony Danielli and
the Danielli family of businesses. Thank

784
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,679
you, Bill. Whatever it takes, remember that it's a good it's a

785
00:53:04,679 --> 00:53:07,800
good thing to wake up with everything. Whatever it takes, whatever it takes,

786
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:15,800
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see tomorrow. They know what to do.

787
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:27,639
I'm Robock Brewing Company, Rochester's original
craft brewery since nineteen ninety three. To

788
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,320
some of us, that doesn't sound
that long ago, but when you look

789
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:35,360
back, that's thirty years of making
excellent bruise in the Greater Rochester area.

790
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,400
That's what Robock does. And they
have a beer hall and they do some

791
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,840
real cool stuff there. They have
the beer Hall sessions every Thursday in the

792
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,760
month of October. Oh look at
that, it's a Thursday. Lou de

793
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,280
Petro is playing tonight from six to
nine. So you go down there,

794
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,280
you're listening to Lou de Petro.
You think, ooh, I should check

795
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,400
out that new fall menu. I've
heard Bill talk about that. I'm billified.

796
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,320
Oh wait, look at this.
They have bourbon burger pizza. I'll

797
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,239
order that. I'll pair it with
a delicious beer from Roerbock's extensive list.

798
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:07,599
Maybe try the new one that they
had, the Golden Ticket. It's golden

799
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:10,320
stout with coffee, chocolate, raspberry
and vanilla. It's a fun brew and

800
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:15,239
it's made by Robert, the seller
man extraordinaire. Maybe you're gonna see Robert

801
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,920
at the beer hall. Just make
sure you swallow your bourbon burger pizza.

802
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,000
You don't want to talk with your
mouthful. Wash it down with a little

803
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,800
bit of that golden ticket and then
say, hey, Robert, great stuff

804
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:28,159
as you take in lou de Petro, the beer hall sessions Roebock Brewing Company,

805
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,000
making our area just a little more
tasty. Rochester's original craft brewery is

806
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:37,480
Roeboch Brewing Company. Victor Chrysler Dodge
Geep Ram Root ninety six in Victor and

807
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:44,199
online at victorcdjr dot com. Mac
of All Trades, Because we're in that

808
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,519
Halloween time of year and if you
look like you live in a haunted house,

809
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:50,920
yeah, it might be great to
keep people away, but do you

810
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,639
really want to do that. We
got the holidays coming up. Why not

811
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:57,239
have MAC come over and take care
of that creaky door that freaks everybody out

812
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,679
and they think it's a ghost because
there's a little bit of a around the

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