Fame, he'd liked to be walked on a leash and play really dirty kinky
sex games. Is uh the guy put the cock in the peacock network.
Okay, bitch, hey, everybody, aj Benzi here with fame as a
bitch. This is your free show for February seventh, twenty twenty four.
Yes, Berdiees, it's been very, very wet out here in Shittown,
California. Actually a lot of states are getting tons of brain go having houses
washed down streets. Two days ago, I saw a baby grand piano slide
down in muddy streets. So people are losing their most prized possessions left and
right. Not to mention. As I mentioned on the Patreon show, it
must be affecting in a bad way the migrants who are coming here through San
Diego because the weather down there, I mean, complete beaches have been washed
away. Mission Beach is shot, which is a big popular spot down there,
beautiful part of America. It's getting destroyed by this storm. People see
rain. They make fun of Los Angeles a lot because whenever it rains hard
here for days, they get right on it and call it a storm watch.
They make sure they tell you all about it. I used to laugh
when I came here in and said, storm watch it's raining. Then you
live for here a little longer, and you see what rain does to the
hills, How houses slide down hills and end up at the pit of a
valley, and people get stuck in cars. It's an awful mess. It's
just awful. So I was thinking about you birds. It's no fun to
fly around that rain. Don't hear little trip trips by the window. But
here I am throwing out some free food in the hope that you'll come to
patreon dot com slash fames a bitch, as many of you have, I
wanted to tell you today of this story of how it all began at the
at the beginning for me, when I became a gossip commnist for New York
News Day that came before the New York Daily News. And the way that
happened is basically, in a very brief way, I'll say that I was
married for five years and we got divorced, and after five years, in
one day, I kept the house we bought. She moved to an apartment
nearby. I had some money in my banking campus. The house of my
youth was sold, and after everybody took their piece of it, me Jen
the Rain and Frankie, Rosalie and Jack. We paid off bills that we
had, what have you, mortgages, whatever people wanted to do with it,
and then we had some leftover. I paid for my ex wife's college
education when it came to her master's degree, which I don't regret. She
became a teacher and still as one to this day. And I had like
thirteen thousand leftover to myself and all was said and done, so I never
played with a bank card before. I'm loving this go to the bank and
taking money out of the account. They never had that before. When I
was married, I said, bring home my check to my wife, give
it to her, and she would bank it. I didn't touch money.
I would say, I'm gonna go to home deep on eed, fifty bucks
okay here, So I'd walk around with ten bucks in my pocket. That
was it just suck my father. Now I'm ripping through this money like crazy.
But I'm going to Manhattan. I'm looking for stuff in Manhattan. I'm
having the fun at the bars and the restaurants of places I never dreamed i'd
get into. So I'm having a ball, dating girls, meeting crazy people
in New York City. Suddenly I find some information that I've got a club.
At a party, I see Cindy Crawford making out with another female model
named Gail Elliott. I call the gossip columnists at the paper I worked at
Newsday at this point, all long owned. Linda Stacey wrote the gospel columnists.
The gossip colump at New York Newsday called Inside New York, and she
wrote from Park Avenue, Manhattan. I gave it a bit, she'd get,
Look, i'll pay you money. Every week. You want to go
to nightclubs and bring me back some stories, I'll give you fifty bucks the
story. I said, great, So I'll make it a little side hustle,
staying in the city. Finally, eventually she goes, why don't you
come work for us one day a week on Fridays. I'll help you.
I'll watch you put the page together. I'll teach you the ins and outs
of it. And I said, that's great. That's what I want.
Because I was tired of sports. I wanted to get into gossip and entertainment
writing. So one day a week I'm in Manhattan now working with Linda.
I felt amazing. I was doing a Boom at night, you know,
my Buddy's restaurant down in Soho. I'd walk from parking like thirty fourth all
the way to Boom, all the way downtown, just because I felt great.
I felt like I didn't weigh anything. I love the New York City
streets. A little money in your pocket, you know, just disguised the
limit. So one day Linda takes me and this other guy that worked with
her, Doug Vaughan. There's an old man who worked with her named Tony
Skududo, but he was just sent to her page. He probably wrote one
or two items a week, and he was nothing. So I would come
in on Fridays and take over for him while he would go home and rest
because he was old, in his late sixties. And Linda says, mort
Zuckerman wants to pay me a lot of money to come to the New York
Daily News when he buys it, which is going to take place in a
day or two. What should I do? I said, you should go.
She goes, He's gonna pay me a lot of money. I said,
go mean, while I'm thinking what about me? And she goes,
well, I told him, if i'd go, I'm taking my boys with
me. I'm taking you and Doug, and we looked like we were really
happy. Doug. Doug was that openly gay guy, which wasn't easy for
a kid from Mississippi, but he had a biting wit and nothing ever seemed
to shake him. And I guess that Tony's could do. That. Was
an old timer who wrote a book on Bob Dylan once got him some buzz.
Otherwise they banished him to the gossip page because he was too old and
stoddch she didn't cover anything else. They tried to get him to take a
buy out, but he didn't want to. Budge had a nurse nice earn
there in New York news Day, got a great paycheck, and basically I
guess that wrote like one or two items a week for Linda's page. And
Linda's page inside Neurope was the funniest and also the most interesting gossip column in
New York City. I had a female voice to it, and on Today's
page I talk about why female comics never work on late night TV. I
have my theories, but a gossip columns from a female voice was very different.
In a lot of ways, especially from her vantage point having been divorced
and now raising a child alone. And Linda had Linda brought with her,
brought to the page the way she lived her life. It was very interesting
and she got letters of congratulations from big, heavy female and male writers across
the city, so she felt great. We were humming along. She takes
me and Doug to the Daily News. How much money you want to make,
she asked me. I said, I don't know. I didn't know
what to say. I was just I was working shifts at Newsday. You
know, I'm like, can you get me sixty a year? And she
goes, oh, I'll do better than that. So I just left it
up to her, and she did much better than that. For my first
gig in a newspaper full time, I did great. Most journalists don't get
that, ever, what I got in the first year. But I'm sitting
there at human resources with Doug. Doug Vaughan was his name, and you
know, we're hard, we're human resources, We're filling out paperwork. It's
all good. And all of a sudden, Doug looks over to me and
he goes, yeah, I can't do this anymore. I said, yeah,
take it home, finish it at home. I'll talk to you tomorrow.
He goes, no, No, I'm done. I'm done with gossip.
I'm done with Linda. You're a boy. Now you stay, you
do your think. I'm gonna do something else. I said, you sure,
because yeah, yeah, I've been tired of this for a while.
He just got something leaves. I told Linda. She goes, fuck him.
Whoever works for me does very well in life. Doug will be fine.
And Doug did fine. She was right. He went to NBC Television
Rose the Ranks was in charge of the Today's Show years back, vice president
of Special Programs, in charge of Jay Leno, SNL Late Night with Jimmy
Fallon Carson Daily. Doug blew up over there. So for a while it
was her and I writing perfectly together this column called hot Copy for the Daily
News. Linda wanted the third person. She asked me who I knew.
I suggested Michael Lewitis from Rubinstein Public Relations. One day, Michael called me
and said, I would do anything to write for you and Linda because I
know so many people in the city. I could really help. But I'm
like Michael. You went to Yale university. What do you want to do
with it? With that degree? To be a gossip college. I don't
care. That's what I love to do. And it's true. He did
have a lot of contact. Contacts are a big part of that job,
so as humor, and Mikey had a lot of that as well, so
a very woody Allen type humor. We loved each I loved it. I
still love him to this day. So I kept him in mind, and
eventually I told Linda that Michael might be a good addition. She was like,
he went to Yale. I said, I know, I talked to
him about that, but he just want the position here. He knows everybody,
he knows the pr people. He could be a good addition, Linda.
He'll do what you tell him to do. Blah blah blah. And
I said, well, work great together, trust me, and I'll be
downtown, He'll be uptown. He'll burg got great. She was, tell
him, he's got to give us a really big story first. So I
called him, go, Michael, Linda's gonna take you on, but you
gotta deliver a big story because I know exactly what story to do. What's
that he goes, Well, I know a girl who doesn't want to admit
it, but she told me that Woody Allen was writing her as a pen
pal when she was very underage and he wrote some things to her on that
page that didn't really sit right with her as she got older and re read
them. I said, that's fucking great. This is during the sunny preven
bullshit, so that was a huge story. I said, get it,
do it. He came in the office one day he presented the story and
Linda, she loved it, and we watched him to go to town and
try to get it and at the last minute. The girl who was the
pen pal a woman by the name of Nancy Joe Sales, So she's a
woman now. She wrote her first magazine piece on me for a New York
magazine about me being a gossip columnist, and she almost got me killed.
But she now has a very big byline for Vanity Fair and different different periodicals,
mainly Vanity Fair. She was Woody Allen's penpal and when Michael told you
he's gonna write this story so we can get a job for us, she
said, no, flat out, if you ever write it, you'll never
talk to me again. And I can tell Michael was crushing on the girl
a little bit, and he comes back from the phone just all four along.
I said, Mikey, you can't let that bother you. Everybody's gonna
tell you they'll never talk to you again. Everybody's going to tell you the
disappointed in you. It doesn't matter. They all come around. I'm doing
this for a year now, They're all gonna come around. Mike. Don't
worry about Believe me, you didn't lose her. Linda says, fuck that.
If you don't write it, I'll never want to see in this office
again. Linda was so tough. I'm like, relax, relax, don't
worry. Michael writes the story. Of course, the girl complained and called
him and said, you rap, bast I'll ever talk to you again.
They ended up talking again, so it all goes away in a period of
time. But Michael got his job because of that, because Lida said it's
either her or us, and that story went to page one. Woody Allen
used to have an underage pen pals, big story. After that, we
hired Michael full time double this salary at Rubenstein Public Relations, and initially Linda
put Michael through all sorts of shit that she put me through when I got
the job. You get Linda a clothee in the morning, get the three
newspapers we write up against, have them spread out on her desk so she
can see each pages, got each paper's gossip, calm, and she reads
them all. We all sit there with a cup of colffee and she'll say,
who's this? What is the post of this story? Don't you know
so and so at that nightclub? Yeah, I find out why that guy
didn't give you the story. I'm pissed off or else, tell them we'll
never write a fucking thing on this nightclub again. Lindibig gets so overboard and
so angry that one birthday I bought her an electric chainsaw and I put it
together. We left at the bottom of her desk. People came in,
giving a shit like an editor. She would thought the chain saw in a
funny way, and people would laugh, like, could you imagine nowadays having
a chain shaw at your desk. She didn't give a shit, But little
by little, that female voice in the page was being kind of I was
speaking louder than it. She was letting me. By the way, it
wasn't just me playing a power game. She was letting me, which was
really nice of her. But she would go banana if she saw a story
in another paper. We both had the same source. She waned a walk,
did that store us go to them and not for us? She was
relentless, And then we started to sail along just perfectly. We were a
very different group of gossip columns columnists. I mean, we broke stories on
a daily basis, and we kept you laughing from the first sentence of the
last sentence. Not many pages did that, In fact, none of them
did that. Linda had politics covered in a lot more, you know.
I had the mob and the downtown scene covered Hollywood supermodels. Michael let uptown.
He went to a lanes every night, always going to Friar's events with
the tux A lot of nights Michael wore a tuxedo. We were totally different.
I didn't wear a tux once in the seven years I wrote got so
Michael Wallman like once a week, two different guys doing two different things for
the same page. And as things got bigger and we had more and more
columnists coming at our page in a competitive manner, we knew we needed to
add someone else. Just someoney on a part time basis, and we used
to get tips from people a lot. One kid from some South Jersey named
Chauncy Hayden who used to put together this newsprint free newsprint magazine out called Stepping
Out, and he always had an interview that was his main thing. He
interviewed the celebrity for the middle of the middle of this magazine. Interviewed me.
He in to be like a lot of New York people, a lot
of Jersey people, sopranos people. Then he got really big Donald Trump.
He interviewed like some major people over the years, and he'd always take those
quotes where some would put their foot in the mouth in his interview and give
them the different gossip. Thomas. He always came to us first and we'd
give him a big write up. So I said, you know, I'm
thinking about Tchauncy come in Linda once a week. He always has these articles
in his magazine where he gets the celebrity to put their foot in the mouth
and it goes everywhere all over the country. He'd be good if we had
mere once a week. That way his interviews could go to us exclusively.
She liked the idea we called him in. He told us who he's working
on. We just let him go and it was going well. You know,
we'd print his little tidbits from his interviews. Then Charncey's thought to feel
like, I don't know if we want to do this anymore. I said,
why He's I don't know, you know, I just I liked the
salary I was getting in New Jersey. It's enough money. I know you
guys can pay more, but I like being home in Jersey. I run
the whole show out there, and I'm able to give my articles to more
than one newspaper. I just feel like, and you know what, Okay,
if you're uncomfortable, Chauncy, no hard feelings, go back to doing
what you're doing. We'll find someone else. So he leaves. I bring
him up because he just finished a book of putting together thirty of his interviews
over the years and some of the quotes he got from these people. I'm
gonna read you some at the end of this. If not, go to
go to tomorrow's Patreon and you'll hear it there. At patreon dot com.
Slash famous a bit everybody from Howard Stern, the Jean Jacabor to Wendy Williams
would be gold but you name it. He interviewed them all interesting stuff.
But there was a third guy I got to get now, and I wanted
someone who could ask the questions that I didn't want to ask anymore, someone
who'd go to events that I didn't want to go to anymore. Now I'm
at this five six years Linda retired, left the page to me and Michael.
The page became a male dominated page. Obviously. I met with mart
Zuckerman. I promised I wouldn't cover any of his socialite friends. To get
his feathers ruffled. I said, it's gonna be Hollywood, it's gonna be
gossip, it's gonna be this. That he agreed. He gave me a
bumpin' salary and it was my page, plus another column on Sunday that was
just about me and what I did for the week. Real narcissistic shit,
but it was great. I loved it. This kid, Jimmy Ruttenberg,
was always giving us items. He was writing for a free weekly newspaper down
in the village or a lower east side, a lot of like neighborhood politics
going on, and Jimmy loved that shit. Hey would give us stuff that
had to do with nightclubs, down their parking policies, anything that would make
people going to nightclubs pissed off. Plus, his sister was a dominatrix I
knew, and into the drug scene. I figured, if I get Jimmy,
I'll have the sister's dominatrix world. I'll have politics with him to be
lost with Linda. Plus I'll have him ask questions and go to events,
and I don't want to go to any months perfect. That's the same reason
why then they got me. She did not want to go out anymore.
She wanted somebody with young legs, and now so did I. I didn't
want to go to sixteen places all night. I want to go to two
places see my girlfriend. Relax. You know. I took my foot up
the gas for a while at the end of my run. So Jimmy came
up with great stories. I wanted to hire him full time. Of course,
to saying money in the budget, I said, we're gonna lose this
guy, and I knew I wasn't gonna be there much longer. I said,
we're gonna lose this guy if you don't come up with even forty grand
to pay him. He'll take it. He wants to be a part of
the paper. He wants to be a journalist and stay a journalist. He
already is, but he's got big things in mind. My editor in chief,
Martin Dunn, said no, there's no money. I went over his
head to mort' Zackerman, which is a big mistake. You don't go to
the owner and publisher when your editor says no. And when I went to
more It said I'll think about it. But he told Martin, get your
nights in a row. You sent up a soldier to talk to me about
money. That's your problem, not my problem. Martin ripped me in a
new ass. He left the door open while he did it. The whole
newsroom heard it. And before I left the office, there were two different
newspapers working on that gossip buyer. And that's the way papers work. People
see what happened in the newsroom, they call him the newspaper. They want
favors down the road too. It's a very very You want to take a
shower, trust me after you've done working. But I had to tell Jimmy
there's none money for him, so he politely had to leave and guess what
Hi by the New York Times. Okay, Jimmy was a New York Times
reporter. Still writes for the New York Times at large, but he was
a White House senior reporter. It was a big shot. Then they gave
him an even larger role. Ended up interviewing me when he covered the Hobby
Weinstein trial. Still works for The Times, bought a house in the Hamptons.
Writes from home these days part time nice. I knew he was right,
but what can I tell you? One damn at Rosie in Jack's house
when I was at a dull working as a cabb and working at Best Buy
and I needed some extra money, I said, let me talk to Chauncey
about writing for Stepping Out. So we met in New York City. We
met at a place on Bleaker Street called Caliente Cab Company. It was kind
of damp out, reigning, a little bit shitty day to be in the
city. We sit down, we get some food to margarita, and Chauncey
tells me I'm leaving New York. I'm leaving Jersey. I'm taking the operation
with me. I'm going to go to Ireland. I said, what the
fuck? Island? What are you doing now? Truncy's a red haired you
know, looks like a Viking. He's got that somewhere in his blood.
He goes, I'm gonna go there. What happened? He goes, I
went there on a trip. I gotta grow pregnant. She's having the baby.
She won't tell me where she's staying. She won't tell me anything about
the baby. Apparently it's a little girl that she's expecting. I gotta be
there and find this kid. He dropped everything, he gave away all he
owned, left his place with a toothbrush, and went to Ireland in search
of his baby daughter. Because I was in the restaurant that day and I
said to them, Truncy, I'd already had Roxy was three or four years
old. This to Truncy, you cannot have a little girl out there and
never see her. You gotta go. I understand completely. You gotta go
and take care of it. Once you meet it, you will you'll want
to. He goes out there, thinking, maybe in a month he come
back with a hotailway tween his legs. But no, he said, there's
no turning back. I kept in touch with him. First few years were
hell. Legal costs, not no the way the Irish family court system worked.
He said, I was like my cousin Vinnie, but with an Irish
brogue. Isolated, he felt very It felt impossible, but he refused to
give up. Turn through religion, beg God to help him, or else
he would returned. But if he found that, he'd be the best father
on earth and state in Ireland. Well seven years later, founder now his
Facebook is full of pictures of him and her. The mother's not in the
picture, not that I gather. And he is the best dad and loves
his little girl so much. And he told me he promised God. If
he promised God, he wouldn't let him down if he gave him the chance
and granted him that wish of finding that little girl. And now he lives
every day to make sure he keeps up his end of the bargain. He
told me so. He asked me to write the forward of this book he's
got coming up, and I did so, and I wrote It was sometime
in the early nineties that I was given the reins to a gossip calumn ran
in the New York Daily News called Hot Copy. It was as tabloid newspapers
Go considered the must read to many of the city's inhabitants, not the least
of which were the millions who commuted there via the bridges and tunnels that connected
Gotham to the Five boroughs in the great state of New Jersey. Writing the
column was a true labor of love for me, and I did so for
seven years. At the crux of it all was being at the helm of
the paper in the midst of the great tabloid War of the nineties. Back
then, in the pre Internet and pre Google days, the way we knew
our papers were performing was measuring the stacks of the Daily News and the New
York Post and Newsday at the many newstands that dotted the city. If the
stack of the News was lower, I knew we were doing a good job.
If the stack was higher, that I knew the Post or Newsday had
a better edition, and I better hit the phones hard when I got my
office. Many people make up a gossip gom Other than tips from publicists and
agents and club owners, etc. It sometimes came down to calling up someone
I always knew had the goods. Trauncey Hayden always had the goods. During
the nineties, there wasn't a better man to go to. An incredible knack
of getting a celebrity to agree to an interview inside his free newsprint New Jersey
Man called stepping out. Whenever I was in dire need to close out the
column, I just wanted a juicy quote from an interview Chauncy conducted. I'd
bring him up. He had this incredible ability to have celebrities admit to things
that would go on to become big stories of their own right. It may
have been a quote maybe Fisher Howard's Durn Boy, George, Tom Jones,
Debbie Harriet Vanilla Eyes. It didn't matter. It is an easy answering the
celebrity questions. There's unique talent in making them feel comfortable enough to open their
hearts for the world to see. And whenever I called Chauncey form one of
these interviews, he delivered because Chauncy always had the goods. So I'm going
to read you a couple of quotes from some of these interviews and you'll get
to know what I meant. And by the way, if you'd like to
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Did all in the patreon be sure to go so a couple of quotes.
I'll leave you with Sybil Shepherd told Chauncy. I always felt that when
Elvis sang, oh you lonesome tonight, that there was a loneliness in him
that would never be satisfied. At the time I knew Elvis, I didn't
realize the full extent of that addiction until many years later after he had died.
I think he had five different drugs in him aut a old times,
and enough that any of those would have killed him on his own. And
he had five different ones. That was really hushed up because we didn't want
to mar his great talent and his great heart. Hmmm, see that hushed
up, O'Neil. I would like to be remembered as someone who worked really
hard and came back for nothing. Literally nobody thought ever work again. I
went through a very dry period in my career. I say this to my
kids when it was so hard for me to be out in public and to
believe in myself was what I needed to be doing the most. When I
did finally do it, it was like getting back on the horse. That
is something I think will be remembered about me. I don't know, Tatum,
looking back, that quote doesn't really stand Donald Trump. I learned that
I can handle pressures. When the real estate market collapsed, I was in
some pretty serious financial trouble. I had many friends who went bankrupt, but
I fought through it and didn't have any of those legal maneuvers, and today
my company is much stronger than it ever was. I guess I learned that
I can handle adversity and pressure in bed times. Something you don't know if
you can handle until it actually happens to you. Well, it's happening right
now, Donald, and we don't know if you're going to come through this
unscathed. Fuck that you're already scathed, if that's even a word seth mcfallen's
that's something that I think is truly awful. I think nine to eleven has
been, to be honest, they're a very huge overreaction. Just speaking completely
honestly, I'm not a fatalist. I think of myself as a man of
science, and you know, to me, it seems like it was horrifying
and it was terrible, but at the same time, you can't let it
completely disrupt everything. It seems we're living in a world now that is much
less pleasant place than it was ten years ago, and I don't think that's
essential. I think that September eleventh has been used as a tool of fear
by those in power. Certainly, what an asshole, horrible Bill Maher.
First of all, it's hard to argue with the simple truth that people who
fly suicide missions aren't cowardly. One thing I'm always amazed by is that with
all these suicide missions that the Palestinians undertaken so forth, I never read about
one guy who at the last minute went what the fuck am I doing?
I mean, wouldn't you think if you were able to walk into a place
and blow yourself up, somebody along the way would say, what the fuck
am I crazy? Let's get out of here, but they always go through
with it. Joanath Dickinson. Dickinson said, what really hurt me was when
Sliced Alone said one of the reasons he didn't want to be with me besides
the kid, was that I was too old for him. I said,
define old, and he said, when you're going through the pet shop,
you buy the puppy, not the old dog. I thought that was a
really stupid thing to say. That bothered me. Who the hell did he
think he was telling me that shit for Anyhow, David Caruso, I was
hoping MIPD Blue would loosen my schedule up like they did for George Clooney when
he was making Batman. They let him work weekends and stuff like that.
Anyway, I proposed, for lack of a better term, for precedent,
that had never been done before, and everyone panicked on me. So they
decided the best thing for the show was to me to leave. So in
reality I was fired. They said, you go far with your motion picture
career, and we're going to go far without you. I've told this story
five of the times, but nobody will print it. Nobody wants to believe
it. This is terrible. Ja Jacaboa said, Darling, look at how
Michael Jackson looks. He doesn't want to be black and he can't be white.
I think it looks awful. I mean, I just think that Michael
is a very sick man. I think Madonna's just his bad. She also
has such a big talent, yet she believes like she behaves like a street
walker. And explained to me, Elizabeth Taylor, you knows she's my next
door neighbor, right, But I can't understand why she would defend him.
Do you think it's for publicity? And Finally, Pauline Pozakova said, do
you really think Jade Barrymore and Pharah Fawcett look hot and playboy? I don't
think so. Those pictures gave me nightmares. I thought they looked like train
wrecks. Geez, somebody should have told them to do better. Excuse me,
Pauline, it you ended up posing quite a bit lately, and Jade
and Pharah looked a lot better than you. Gotta be careful what you say.
It comes back to bite you in the ass. Finally, Victoria Gotti
said, my father hated to see any of us under any situation. Cry
and thinking back now as a little girl, it was hard not to.
But my father's attitude if you skin your knee, thought of the cry was
you're tougher than this. You don't have to cry over this. You cry
when you really need those tears, and I hope the god you'd ever need
them. Now, stop crying, Carrot Top. Some comics say my act
there's a piece of crap, but then four thousand people will line up to
see me perform. Well, do I care more about the fans or this
one guy who was sitting in a room without a window, going fuck Carrot
Top? Henry Winkler. The first time I said a as the funds it
was because there was too much dialogue, so I set it to reduce language
to sound. I never would have guessed how popular it would become. All
I knew back then was that I was getting paid and I bet them up
with stuff and be funny. Man, Look where that took him. I
don't think I have Howard's dorning it too. At the end. Yeah,
I got Howard's doing I know it. Yeah, Howard's doing. I know
intellectually there's no God, but in case there is, I don't want to
piss them off by saying that if you watch that tape of the guy getting
his head chopped off, there's no way there could be a God like no
God could allow that. If I was God, I would say, listen,
I can't allow this. I'm gonna stop it. Just as his head
was about to be cut off, I would break the Arab's arms. If
God is compassionate, he would never allowed it. I understand that too,
I get it. But this are the kind of things that Chauncy would end
up getting out of people just for saying, are you ready, I'm gonna
press record, And he puts them in a state when they're very comfortable with
themselves, and after a while, what happens. It's interesting, it happens
when you're on Howard's Done. You just want to bring the truth to that
show, because that's what Howard does. If he brings the truth. Thing,
you've got to bring the truth. And with Chauncy being the editor of
that page, he wanted certain things from those people to be said. And
eventually, in the course of an hour or so being interviewed, you don't
want me dead air time. You want to be spontaneous, funny, and
you end up saying things that kind of come out outrageous at times and other
times they can really light your ass on fire. But there's something to be
said about always talking, always answering questions. Eventually you're gonna say anything.
It's scary, but I know that an interviewing technique when I was a journalist
was not to ask too much and keep your mouth shut and not answer questions
for them that you post. Let them build down the second and third tier
of their brains to figure out what they're gonna answer that question with. You'd
be surprised what people come up with. They break stories just because you're sitting
there listening. Interesting. I've learned a lot about talking since I've had this
podcast. I've learned it after almost seven years of doing this. You do
anything for our day daily for that many years, and like Johnny Carson said
at one point hosting The Tonight Show, he said, you do a show
every night for a year, for for an hour, for years, and
eventually you will say everything you have in your head and your heart. And
I think I'm absolutely headed there, that's for sure. I've done it before
in the past that I'm not going to stop now. So if you really
want to hear that stuff that's deep from the marrows of my bone. Go
to patreon dot com slash Fame as a Bitch and get the real good stuff.
Spend thirty one minutes at you birds. All right, that was a
good day. I took care of you. Because it's so rainy out I
want you to wash it away. But you know, next show is a
new day to fend for yourself. Come over here in the shade, the
nice trees over here, a lot of food. You'll do well, you'll
flourish. That's it. I'm aj Benson. That was your free show for
February seven, twenty twenty four. I'll talk to you guys soon. Thank
you for listen. Fame as a Bitch is an aj Benza Workhouse Connect production
featuring the endless wisdom, insightful commentarian sometimes fucked up perspective of AJ Benza executive
producer Mike Agavino