WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:05.919 Dreamy Live, I mean my heart Radio. This is High on the Ball 2 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:12.039 with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sportsport Team Fitts. Hey, welcome 3 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:14.400 back to On the Ball here Fox Sports Spurt Team Shifty. I'm Steve, 4 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:19.320 he and Jane. Now we have Britkey News is High on the Ball breaking 5 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:25.960 news. All right, So a lot of stuff going on as always, 6 00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:30.679 Uh, digging, digging for diamonds in the rough and news and all kinds 7 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:34.240 of stuff. Okay, let's start with some news out of out of Phoenix. 8 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:39.679 DeAndre Hopkins, the all everything receiver from the Cardinals, has been released. 9 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:43.479 Right, that's some more of the money's right, the eight million dollars 10 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:47.920 cap space whatever all that stuff means. But but DeAndre Hopkins is gone. 11 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:54.320 Uh who picks him up? We'll see. He threw out on he's got 12 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.560 a podcast, and he threw out five quarterbacks that he would like to play 13 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:02.479 for, and none of them was Kyler Murray. You know, you know 14 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:06.159 Lamar Jackson and you know all these ships. So we'll see, we'll see 15 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:08.439 if anybody wants to de hoop. But he's not. He's not with the 16 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:11.480 Cardinals anymore. And you know what he stopped wanting to be with the Cardinals 17 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.920 a while back. And you know, again, as I've always said, 18 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:17.200 if you don't want to be here, then get the hell out. So 19 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:19.680 so DeAndre Hopkins gone, and I don't know if I want to be in 20 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:23.280 Phoenix either. That's it's the last It's probably the worst team in the league 21 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:27.920 right now, maybe the safe safe for Texas. Yeah, all right. 22 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:34.200 So, um, after after the Lakers were eliminated the other the other night, 23 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.239 Lebron James and his postgame press conference said some words that people started losing 24 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:44.920 their minds thinking he's gonna retire all this stuff. Um uh. Dave mcmaniman 25 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:49.480 from ESPN has said he's got a source close to Lebron James. It said 26 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:53.239 he believes he'll fulfill his contract and he'll be back next year. Henna be 27 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:57.640 silly if he wouldn't get that. And you know, McManaman kind of said, 28 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:00.799 look, he was saying some stuff after the game. I don't feel 29 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:04.719 like he was lying or anything like that. That that's how he was feeling. 30 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.040 It that true, true right after the game. I mean to ten 31 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:09.280 minutes after the game and you're saying some stuff from the heart. Probably right, 32 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:14.400 we talked about that. How I'll try contry he was He just said 33 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:17.120 he had a lot to think about. According to according to mcmanamana, but 34 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:21.840 to keep some people close to Lebron say he ain't going anywhere. Yeah, 35 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:27.319 he's all right. Um So. Earlier this week also Barry Trammell of the 36 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:30.520 Oklahoma did a story say Colorado is getting ready to jump, They're going to 37 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:36.479 You're going to the Big twelve soon. Is sourced with somebody within the Big 38 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:39.400 twelve, which, of course they're gonna say that today um our buddy, 39 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:46.960 uh um um. Brian how from from the Boulder Daily Camera did a long 40 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:51.199 interview with with Rick George. Among the things that George said was, quote, 41 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:53.280 you've got to believe about a third of what you see out there. 42 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:57.560 We're members of the PAC twelve. We're proud members of the PAC twelve, 43 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:00.919 and we've got to see where a media rights to the land and where our 44 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:02.960 conference goes. In a perfect world, would love to be in the PAC 45 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:06.879 twelve. Well, we also have to do what's right for Colorado. At 46 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:08.639 the end of the day, we'll evaluate things as we move forward. You 47 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:10.479 know the funny thing about it, No, you're right, what do you 48 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:15.599 sound like what you can say? Let me go there, because we had 49 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:20.319 Jim, we had Dave Ky, same thing. And what's he been accused 50 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:24.360 of being a politician, right, that's what politicians and a corporate line guy, 51 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:28.120 that's and that's what it was. What it can you? What can 52 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:31.680 you say? Right? And Jay, are you a good guy? I 53 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:37.599 thought it was breaking news? Uh a day line two sons. Jay thought 54 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:40.479 he was a good guy. Of course, they're gonna say what they need 55 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:46.120 to say and without giving you information exactly exactly, and look, he did 56 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.599 exactly what Dave Vicky did exactly. He left either door open, said we 57 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:51.719 got to do what's best for us. Yeah, we want to, but 58 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:53.840 we want to be in there. In fact, they're probably tired of talking 59 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:55.759 about it because they're gonna say the same thing. And if the PAC twelve 60 00:03:55.800 --> 00:04:00.840 doesn't pull a deal together, then they say we want on it. They 61 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:02.439 didn't get it together, we gotta go over here because it's in our best 62 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:05.599 instrums. Nothing wrong with you and you know and again when we talked about 63 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:09.960 it last time, I said, if the worst case scenario is the Arizona 64 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.800 winds up in the Big twelve, I could think of worse things. Sure, 65 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:15.600 right, Well you're winding up in the Mountain West or the whack. 66 00:04:15.720 --> 00:04:18.680 You don't have very many options left, right. I don't even know what 67 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.600 the ACC is doing anymore, because you know, that's a that's a been. 68 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:27.680 Arizona is not Washington State. Washington State is struggling Washington State. I 69 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:30.720 think if the PAC twelve breaks up, Washington State's gonna wind up in the 70 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:35.199 Mountain West yea, yeah, right, and the West and probably dominate that 71 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:40.040 believe of course, of course for a while, until until they start catching 72 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:43.920 up with them. So anyway, So so Rick George, the ethic arctor 73 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.439 at Colorado basically saying the same thing gave you. I don't know. I 74 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.680 know this is part of our gig here, telling people what they're keeping people 75 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:54.399 up to, up the snuff of what's going on. But I don't see 76 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:58.959 how anybody can can worry about the next news because you don't know. We 77 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:01.240 talk about this, you'll know when you know, because it's no point in 78 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:04.480 getting concerned over it. Yeah, no headlights with one of our buddies over 79 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:08.920 the this week, and I'm thinking, what's to be concerning? I mean, 80 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:11.480 you'll go to sleep tonight not knowing, and you'll wake up tomorrow not 81 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:15.439 knowing until you know, and then you know when you say, okay, 82 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:21.439 what's next? Still one? And I don't know where road trips are gonna 83 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:27.600 go to. I don't think you're not going on the road trip. Well 84 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:30.160 we're gonna go to us this year, so you're gonna go Yeah, okay, 85 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:35.759 that's a that's a sparewell tour. Well yeah, but those are always 86 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:39.000 a fun trip, all right. Um, one, two, three, 87 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:43.600 four or five, six, seventy eight Arizona guys are on the Athlons the 88 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:47.199 preseason. I'll pack twelve team Jacob Colleen, Jordan, Morgan, Tait, 89 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:51.720 Roa McMillan, Jonas, Savina, Tyler, Loop, Michael Wiley, Kyle 90 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:58.240 Austin's both kickers and Justin Flow who hasn't you've played it down for well, 91 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.959 that's a good sign. That's a good sign. I hope they stayed all 92 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:04.680 healthy. Yeah, and it's a sign that judge judge moving the team talent 93 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:09.360 wise. And but the thing about it too is in our legacy talk, 94 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:15.480 they were they were it's zero is the bottom? They were point zero five? 95 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:18.040 Yeah, it was, it was, it was low. It was 96 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:20.519 low. Jordan Morgan is still you know, they're all the you know, 97 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:25.240 the the mock drafts for next year already coming out, and he's still listened 98 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:28.240 to the first round pick even though he's coming off this this knee injury. 99 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:32.040 So um interesting years out of New Orleans. The Saints have brought brought in 100 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:38.839 John Gruden to work with David Carr. Was aw went from the Raiders to 101 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:41.879 the Saints. He was John Gruden's quarterback at the Raiders. He kind of 102 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:45.120 work with him. He's not he's not officially a coach or anything like that. 103 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:48.000 He's just been working with him during the offseason to kind of get him 104 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:51.079 ready for the next season. But uh, you know, remember Gruden had 105 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:55.839 he got he had to resign when all these emails came out, you know, 106 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:59.360 you know, racist and sexist and homophobic stuff. So he's, uh, 107 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:01.040 who know, it's twinning. He'll ever coach again, but he's probably 108 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:04.399 making a little bit of change over there to help out with with David Carr 109 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:09.800 over there with the Saints. Um So, Michael Block, we talked about 110 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:14.680 him yesterday. He had a tough go tarted eleven over par uh uh eighty 111 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:20.839 one at the uh at the Colonial uh golf course in the tournament that's went 112 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:25.079 on right now. He shot another four over part a day, so he 113 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:28.360 finished fifteen over, so he missed the cut. She was what's seventy what's 114 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:32.560 seventy six, seventy five, it would have been seventy four, So he 115 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:35.519 shot but he was fifteen over part. It's a part seventy course. And 116 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:40.279 so who said golf was easy? Nough? You know, Michael Block making 117 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:45.639 the cut was the most bet prop at least on Draft King pointing to the 118 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:48.160 tournament, I'm saying that he would that he wouldn't make They lost a lot 119 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:53.160 of money. Close Well, Draft Kings made a lot of money, so 120 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:59.959 maybe we have him back. The LSU women's basketball team was at the Pie 121 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:05.120 House today and there was a little drama, uh during the visit um. 122 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:09.279 One of the players during the during Biden a President Biden's talk, passed out, 123 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:13.000 fainted right there on the stage behind him. He kind of he kind 124 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.439 of, you know, she was okay. He kind of equipped that she's 125 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:20.800 not the first one to pass out when he's talking and stuff. But it 126 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:24.040 was pretty funny. But you know, the team went. Remember there was 127 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:26.680 a angel Reese who said, I, you know, I don't want to 128 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:30.240 go there. I'd rather go to the Obama. But he went there. 129 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.519 He actually talked to her and uh, you know kind of you know, 130 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:35.960 singled her out and talked to her a little bit. But uh, it 131 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.879 was a little bit of an incident of six or seven minute delay. Well 132 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:41.360 they got the player, her name is Semia Smith off the stage and then 133 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:46.799 she was fine. So but again, always drama, always drama when people 134 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:50.919 go to the White House. Um, I don't I remember, I didn't 135 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:56.120 remember seeing this. But the Colorado Rocky's a right hander Ryan Feltoner got beamed 136 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:00.759 with a line drive about two weeks ago. He's out of the hospital. 137 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:05.080 He had some public comments, doesn't know if he'll be he'll be pitching today, 138 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.399 I mean pitching this year. But he was asked about, you know, 139 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:11.440 how he's doing. He still got lingering concussion symptoms as well as some 140 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:15.840 right ear pain. He said, a lot of fractured symptoms, just a 141 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.840 headache from the concussion, dizziness. But today there's no pain. I'm sleeping 142 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:22.320 well and day to day stuff has become a lot easier. So the feel 143 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:26.320 is that I'm in really good spot compared to where it could be like dead. 144 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:30.200 I didn't see that. I saw a lot of birds dying from players. 145 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:35.159 Yeah, exactly. Um, what's wrong with Scottie Pippin? Did you 146 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:39.240 see his domment? His comments? I don't know if he feels like he 147 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:45.639 got slighted because you know that he thinks he was, you know, better 148 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.759 than Michael Jordan or should have been gotten as much of attention as Michael. 149 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:54.159 But on a on Somebody's podcast, he says, I've seen Michael Jordan play 150 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:56.519 before I came to play with the Bulls. You guys seen him play. 151 00:09:56.639 --> 00:10:00.960 He was a horrible player. He was horror able to play with. He 152 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:03.879 was all one on one, he was shooting bad shots, and all of 153 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.480 a sudden we became a team and we start winning, and everybody forgot who 154 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:11.960 he was. Who did he talk to? That's strange. Let's see who 155 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:18.080 was Uh, that's strange. He was on Stacy King's podcast that was That's 156 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:22.720 maybe the context is different, but uh, he they both needed each other. 157 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:26.200 I mean, honestly, Scottie Pippen would be just another dude. Has 158 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:31.840 Michael Jordan never called Scottie Pippen a terrible player? Maybe maybe not publicly. 159 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.279 Okay, maybe he had did to his face, but for him to come 160 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:39.639 out of publicly say Michael Jordan, the greatest player in NBA history, was 161 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:41.559 horrible. Yeah. I say you look stupid. When you say, did 162 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:43.840 you look stupid and better? Yeah? No, I get it, I 163 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:46.240 get it. I agree with you. Did your kids? Uh well, 164 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:54.399 Adam Or did he watch the Jordan's Tummy, The Last the Fund, Last 165 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:56.440 Dance, Last Dance? Yeah? I think he did, because it's not 166 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:00.000 now. Yeah, you can watch it again now. I think he did. 167 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:01.600 There a lot of people at that age didn't know who he was. 168 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.919 And yeah, Jason, and get to see part of his part of his 169 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:11.919 Jordan's charm. If you won't call it charm, it's not charm that he 170 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:16.080 wanted to beat the crap body of you and and and tell you he's been 171 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:18.720 in the crap body. Larry Bird was the same guy, same guy, 172 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:22.240 because they got thrilled, and of course I've been motivated. Yeah. Yeah, 173 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.519 Um, I don't know if Lebron does that. He probably does it. 174 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:26.759 He just does it. He just runs you over. Yeah, but 175 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:30.480 uh, but in my mind, I don't even know where I'm calling with 176 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:35.279 this it's like Scotty enough, you know enough, you had a great legacy. 177 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.799 You're you're a six time champion, just like Michael Jordan. Yeah, 178 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:43.600 why do you feel you need to go out and and and well what the 179 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:48.200 one that the one that looks dumb and bad is not Michael Jordan. Correct, 180 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:52.279 you're the one. Yeah. Your legacy of being that guy is getting 181 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:56.480 worse all the time, all the time. All right, that's what I 182 00:11:56.519 --> 00:12:00.480 got, man, Okay, eight point spreads rout for the first week, 183 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.759 for the first two weeks actually of college football. Oh who who tell me? 184 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:07.840 Well, I just I was just looking at him earlier today. But 185 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:13.720 the great the big game of the of the weekend is um LSU in a 186 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:18.399 neutral site game against Florida State on that Sunday, uh in Orlando, and 187 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:22.039 LSU is a two point favorite in that game. But uh um, let's 188 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:26.720 see, well, there another a couple of decent games. Um A Nebraska 189 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.559 is the seven and a half point underdog to Minnesota. UM Utah Florida is 190 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:33.960 a good game. Utah is a nine and a half point favorite, so 191 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:41.919 they're staying Florida without Anthony Richardson probably, And that game is at Utah um, 192 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:46.799 I have I have a softball quickie in Oklahoma one today. I think 193 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:48.960 they'd be Tennessee. I can't remember they'd be I see in the first round 194 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:54.200 of their playoffs, right, they won forty seven straight gets who they tied 195 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.960 for forty seven straight Arizona, So if they win tomorrow, they will have 196 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:05.480 broke bring Arizona's record of forty seven street Yeah, just well, Arizona had 197 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:09.600 a nice run, they did. They just gotta return. They've gotta return 198 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.440 to that and uh one more points spread. TCU Colorado, who do you 199 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:20.039 think that's bread? Would be? Oh? TCU twelve? Oh more eighteen, 200 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.919 twenty and a half? Okay, eighteen? Yeah, who knows what 201 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.799 Colorado is gonna do? Who knows their mystery? And this is TCU coming 202 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.879 off their national championship game. Yeah, but tc has also got a new 203 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.200 quarterback as well. Yeah, but if they're still good, they're still good? 204 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.679 Yeah, probably probably. All right, let's go and take our last 205 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.240 break. We're gonna come back. We're gonna have Jake Fisher on. We'll 206 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.879 just talk about whatever's on his mind. It's always something good. Jake has 207 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.519 always has some stuff to say, and we'll see what he's got so's We'll 208 00:13:50.559 --> 00:14:05.759 be right back. 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You've been so nice to us and 254 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:41.880 good to me. What are you doing on our competitors the radio show or 255 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:45.880 show podcast? Well, I had no idea you guys are competitors. I 256 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:51.920 thought both, To be honest with you, I did interviews and stuff with 257 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:56.039 you guys all you know, through my sophomore, junior, senior year, 258 00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:00.720 and so I didn't think it hurt any. I'm giving you guys a check 259 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:11.400 every month. Not yet points, Let's go what's going on? What do 260 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.119 you think about jetfish now? Or what would you tell the fans that we're 261 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:19.880 freaking out two months ago? But you mean Tommy Lloyd? Yeah, I'm 262 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:22.920 gonna go ahead and let you know. Both of those guys are doing an 263 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:26.960 awesome job, especially in recruiting, you know area if somehow we're able to 264 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:32.680 land Caleb loves and we were able to obviously fill a bunch of means we 265 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:36.160 have two awesome point guards. Obviously, you know, kind of loves more 266 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:37.880 of a combo guard. He can get really hot. As long as he's 267 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.960 not a volume shooter. I think he's going to fit in very well. 268 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.599 I love the addition to the powerfulward from San Diego State, and you know, 269 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:48.240 some of these European guys are bringing in and then some of the guys 270 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:51.640 coming back from last year. The one thing it will do, you know, 271 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:53.400 we kind of already know who the starting five or the top six or 272 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.319 seven are going to be. But for some of these young guys coming in 273 00:18:56.359 --> 00:19:00.319 that are gonna want to play, it's gonna push some of these guys that 274 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:03.319 didn't necessarily prove themselves to be contributors last year. So it's kind of a 275 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:07.240 do or die thing, and everyone's going to get better. So you know, 276 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:10.799 somebody every single year always possed their head up and they're really really good, 277 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:12.039 and you know, I'm kind of excited to see who it's going to 278 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:17.319 be this year. So again, you know, then as always there's always 279 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:19.160 comments, well, you know, the Euros aren't tough enough, They're not 280 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:22.640 this they're not that, but uh, you know, they can play. 281 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:26.440 I'm just I'm sorry they can play a Zulus to Ballast was a really damn 282 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:30.759 good player in Arizona UM and you know Laurie Marking and you know, if 283 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:33.839 you go you know, back even further. I mean, I just don't 284 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:37.839 have that beef with these players because but they may may lack in toughness, 285 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:44.599 they bring in knowledge and you know, game sav you know IQs, I 286 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:47.920 guess is what you would say. Well, from what I've heard, it's 287 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:49.480 a completely different game over there. They slow down, they get in our 288 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:52.759 sets, and you know, obviously you have a faster shot clock, but 289 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:56.119 it's more, you know, they don't have all the fast breaks and things 290 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:59.440 of that nature. It's more of a an art, you know, it's 291 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:02.960 more of a fact. They work more on fundamentals and whatnot. And ever 292 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:06.680 since time they got here, the very first European guy that he recruited, 293 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:07.680 he said, it's going to take a little bit of time, he said, 294 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.480 especially with the big guys. He says, European big guys are going 295 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:14.839 to take a little bit more time in general. And so, you know, 296 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:17.039 I have a feeling that some of these guys are going to pop this 297 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:18.839 year. And hey, you know, Jay, if we're able to get 298 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:22.599 a Larry market in every single year, that's awesome. But they're just not 299 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:25.759 walking around, you know, going to college anymore. You know, those 300 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:27.599 guys are you know, getting picked in the top ten to fifteen in the 301 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:30.799 NBA Draft and you know, if they still need to develop a little bit, 302 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:33.680 those guys are staying over there some of the time. So I'm just 303 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:37.839 happy we're able to get some of these really good players to come over here 304 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:41.240 that actually want to attend college and play college hoops. So let me ask 305 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.440 you, because I know you're you're on Twitter a lot, do you get 306 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:49.799 into back and forth with the guys that that kind of have that theory of 307 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:55.119 you know, what the hecks going on every now and then you get those 308 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:57.160 guys that you know, chicken littles of Skuys falling and stuff like that. 309 00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:00.640 But I mean, at the end of the day, because of the transfer 310 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:04.079 portal and because you can actually enter your name into the draft to go and 311 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:08.400 get feedback everyone's roster if it gets complete right away, it's probably not going 312 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:11.799 to be a great roster. That's just kind of how it is. So 313 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:15.240 I like the approach waiting until some of these guys, you know, withdraw 314 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:18.240 their name from the drafts, they get the feedback that they need, and 315 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.160 then from there, because of the brand that we have, you can kind 316 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:22.640 of pick and choose and say, hey, listen, I need a guard. 317 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.640 Okay, well we have five or six cards that we really like that 318 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:29.480 I think are probably going to end up taking their name out of the portal. 319 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:32.440 And they've already said that they're going to earn out of the NBA draft 320 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:33.599 and they've already said they don't want to go back to the same school. 321 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.799 So we're going to go ahead and focus on these guys. And then you 322 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:40.680 know, some of these guys, they have agents or whatever the heck do 323 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:41.880 you want to call them, you know, family members that reach out and 324 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:45.480 you know, some of the spots are reserved for those guys and they can't 325 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:51.000 commit until a certain period. So I think every year it's going to be 326 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:52.920 like this. It's just it just is. And like I said, if 327 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:57.759 you're filling your roster completely before the end of the transfer portal and things of 328 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:00.519 that nature, I think you're doing your team at disservice. I really do 329 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:06.599 so we had. We had Brandon Sanders on yesterday. He was just talking 330 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:11.200 about, uh, you know, just how the program has become, you 331 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:15.559 know, so many got so many pass players have gotten involved again with the 332 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.559 program, and just how how great it's been to see these guys running around 333 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.079 and you know, coming in and talked about, you know, getting Chris 334 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:25.359 McAlister in for the for the spring game and that kind of stuff. I 335 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:29.319 mean, just you know, talking to other guys. Uh, Jake, 336 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:32.960 what's the feel like right now with with Jed Fish and what they're doing over 337 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:34.799 there. As far as that goes, well, it sounds to me like 338 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:37.000 he's running a hell of a program. I mean you can see it on 339 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:41.640 the field. The roster makeover. I mean it wasn't like Dion where he 340 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:45.480 ran everybody off, but the roster turnover was awesome. You know, he 341 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:48.799 told guys straight up, hey, listen, we're bringing in guys that are 342 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:52.920 probably going to be a little bit higher on the depth chart than you, 343 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:56.480 so do what you want. And now he is at a point in you 344 00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:00.960 know, going into year three where he had a very deep receiver room even 345 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:04.160 after losing Dorian Singer and all of a sudden, I cannot pronounce the guy's 346 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:08.039 name to save my life. You know, forgive me, but this awesome 347 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:14.559 receiver from Colorado who's got tired to to the coaching stack all of a sudden. 348 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:17.839 The only time you're ever going to bring in a guy is if he 349 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.240 is going to play right away, right So, you know, if that 350 00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:23.240 guy didn't become available, you know, you still would have had a heck 351 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:26.279 of a receiver room. But because he did, they were able to make 352 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:30.400 the receiver room better. And he's going to be a multi year guy. 353 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:33.759 So obviously Callen's leaving after this next year, but you're still gonna have a 354 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:38.559 very stacked receiver room and he's doing that with pretty much every position. You've 355 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:44.000 gone on the record to say likely or a good chance to win seven games. 356 00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:48.720 I think that that's not changed in your mind. I think they're gonna 357 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:49.799 win seven games to get to a ball game and win the ball game. 358 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:53.559 So they're gonna win total vague. I guess you have changed your mind. 359 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:59.039 No, No, they're gonna win seven eight. One is going to be 360 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:02.599 six and six. No, he said seven and five and then win win 361 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:06.599 a ball game. Jake, I need to pay more intentions. What about 362 00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:11.799 Colorado. They over under now on them is three? Um, are you 363 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:15.400 the OPI They're either going to play be really good or really bad and probably 364 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:21.240 nothing in between. You know. I just think with the total roster overhaul, 365 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:25.480 because they are improving the physicians, but they haven't played a snatch together 366 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:29.680 yet. They haven't played yet offense, they haven't played that defense yet. 367 00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:33.400 I think that they're gonna be in some close games. I think they'll struggle 368 00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:36.680 a little bit early. Um, but I think that yeah, three is 369 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:37.640 fine. You know, I'm not going to give you four or two. 370 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:41.000 I think three is fine. Um, But I will tell you because it's 371 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:45.079 a bunch of brand new people, because of the overhaul of the roster, 372 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:48.359 and because you know, to be honest with you, like beyond you know, 373 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:51.319 at his last job, he can recruit guys that should be going to 374 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:53.200 hide, you know, Division one level team, So you didn't really know 375 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:56.160 if the coaching was great. I'm just gonna throw that out there. When 376 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:00.400 you get into a Power five conference, and especially one of that's been on 377 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.440 the lower tier for the past few years, it's gonna take a little bit 378 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:07.039 more coaching. So we'll see if he's a good coach um. But I 379 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.119 mean he's gonna have to obviously both to the roster. He's doing a little 380 00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:14.480 bit of it this offseason, and you know they're gonna be loud, but 381 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:18.640 I don't think they're gonna, you know, be a bull team. Yeah, 382 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:22.000 okay, Hey, we were talking real quick at the beginning of the 383 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.839 of the show Legacies of Coaches. Uh did you did you play for Stoops? 384 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:29.400 I can't remember? And you play for rich Rod obviously, but did 385 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:33.599 you play for Stoops? I played for Stoops. He got fired my junior 386 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:36.200 year. That was the year of the shoulder and the year of the knees. 387 00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:37.839 So okay, a lot of stars were out, Okay, perfect, 388 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:41.400 So at the end of the day, just as an overall look at what 389 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:47.960 do you think stoops legacy is was? And then rich Rods is was or 390 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.400 is? Well? Yeah, like I love them both, you know, 391 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:56.000 completely different guys, both obviously football geniuses, one on the defensive side, 392 00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:59.240 one on the offensive side. With Stoops. When we were there, we 393 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:03.359 kind of, you know, we ascended pretty quickly. We got our butts 394 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:07.200 kicked by a Nebraska team who quite frankly shouldn't have been in the Holiday Bowl 395 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:08.319 if they would have won a couple of close games. That was a much 396 00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:12.240 better team than anyone anticipated. And they ran the triple option against us, 397 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:15.200 which we had no idea they were going to do, so we never practiced 398 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.559 for it. They went old school a little bit with Tween, but then 399 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:23.640 we started hot again. My sophomore year, we got you know, we 400 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:26.799 were in the top ten, I'm pretty sure, and then we lose to 401 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.880 Oregon statehen had a Rogers Brothers, and then from there, you know, 402 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.599 we stayed in the top fifteen. And then that one one night when we 403 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.160 went and played Andrew Luck at Stanford, we got our butt beat. I 404 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.240 believe it was on CBS. And from there we just we kind of crumbled 405 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.799 and we didn't do very well. So that next year we had a very 406 00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:48.960 tough, tough schedule, did not win a lot of games, and then 407 00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:51.440 you know, we had to switch. And then, yeah, I just 408 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:53.359 think he's always going to be the one that got it back off the floor 409 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:57.839 and we got back into Bowl contention pretty much on you know, every year. 410 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:00.720 And then with Rich, you know, he kind of took over a 411 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:03.799 broken team as well. He told guys, hey, this is what we're 412 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.799 gonna be running. They ran our tails off. Whoever quit or whoever wanted 413 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.160 to transfer, you know, go ahead, we'll rebuild it in our image. 414 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.960 And once again, like i'd tell everybody, thankfully, we had a 415 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:19.000 mascot who I don't think it's enough credit. He is the perfect quarterback in 416 00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.079 that system, and he was the one, along with our offense, just 417 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.640 because we didn't have a good defense that first year that kept us a float. 418 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:29.200 And then you know that next year, obviously I think we should have 419 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.640 won nine or ten games we didn't. And then after that Festa Bowl, 420 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:37.000 so obviously he had good players on the roster still you know that they can 421 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:38.680 coach, and then they kind of went through a little bit of a lull 422 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.400 where they had a bunch of injuries and he started to build it up again 423 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.559 and then unfortunately, because of some circumstances, he left. So they're both 424 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.960 awesome coaches. But what they didn't do, in my opinion, for the 425 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.720 most part, that these guys that are at the University of Arson right now 426 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.519 did is they weren't out there with their hair on fire recruiting every single second 427 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.680 of every day. The first year, you know, you lose two of 428 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:04.680 your top recruiters, and they were both top twenty five national recruiters. From 429 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.039 there, you know, the recruiting kind of went down a little bit. 430 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:12.920 But jet fishing, these guys, they just keep rolling. Interesting. I 431 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:15.480 like the way you said you got him off the floor, because it's pretty 432 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:19.559 much right after after the Mac victim one of the things that's been said about 433 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.559 Mike Stups. I like Mike Stups. I thought, as he said he 434 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:26.799 got Arizona off the floor. Uh, you know, we went. I 435 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.319 went to that that Las Vegas Bowl and it was one of the funnest you 436 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.519 know, football road trips. All deserved it, They all deserved the accolades 437 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:37.920 that they got out and had a great time, and they all deserved it. 438 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:41.759 But from where you sat as a player, did you feel like Mike 439 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.000 was in a little over his head as a as a head football coach? 440 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.079 And by that I mean not from an X as an O standpoint, because 441 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:49.559 that you said, the guy was a good, you know, field coach, 442 00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:55.440 but all the other stuff that comes with being a head coach at a 443 00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:59.839 major college program that maybe he didn't like that all that much and that kind 444 00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:03.160 of affected overall how he ran his program well. To be honest with you, 445 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:06.759 I don't know a lot of coaches that really like that stuff all that 446 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:08.880 much. They know it comes with the territory. But you know, with 447 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:11.920 Mike, like I said, you know, with the recruiting aspect, as 448 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.039 long as he was able to coach, he was Okay, Um, you 449 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.640 know, he'll go and he'll do everything else. But you know, where 450 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.839 his love of the game is obviously is coaching. He had some other personal 451 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:25.039 stuff going on in his life, and I think that weighed on him more 452 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:27.160 than just the general things that come along with being a head coach. And 453 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.880 I'll just leave it at that. Yeah, Okay, no, makes sense, 454 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.799 It makes sense. Uh, anything else has got your eye? You're 455 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.119 watching the NBA. Are you're paying attention to baseball Arizona Baseball? I have. 456 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.920 I'm glad that we molly wapped to ask you again, and I'm glad 457 00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:44.440 that we were able to get Oregon State, and I'm hoping that we continue 458 00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:51.400 turning up it. Right. It just means that we beat the brakes off 459 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:56.559 of them. Okay, Okay, Jake is always I was. Business is 460 00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:59.960 going to tell us what's going on. Business is going awesome, guy, 461 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.799 As we have the best plans in the entire state of Arizona for your underwritten 462 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.200 health insurance. We have plans with no co pay, no co insurance, 463 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.920 no outpatient deductibles. We have plans with up to twenty doctors visits per person 464 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:15.759 per year. There is urgent care coverage. 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We're taking a week off 474 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.440 and then coming back two weeks. We must be nice. Guys. Well, 475 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:52.119 if you could do it, we could do it too. Man. 476 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.240 We should say how old Steve is looking right now? I understand ste Next 477 00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:00.519 week even though we're not gonna on the show. Thank you, Jake. 478 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:07.000 We need the we we both look bad. I look in the mirror and 479 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.079 I go, man, I you have saved. It's been a while too, 480 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:15.279 man, Look at that it is. I shaved. Uh, I 481 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:19.599 shaved Saturday, shave Saturday before the Sugar Skulls game. And I'm gonna say 482 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:26.960 shave tomorrow before the Sugar Sculls. Oh what can I tell you? This 483 00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.559 is all I get. It's all I got that. That's a whole week 484 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.319 right there. It's terrible. It's you know, um my two of my 485 00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:38.799 brothers have been able to, you know, easily grow beard and and and 486 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.519 then my brother Rick, and I really can't. But Rick has a mustache 487 00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:48.160 right now and he looks a little like Colonel Sanders and it's all silver. 488 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.440 It's it's it's okay, but it's it's taken a while to take. I 489 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.400 mean I'm talking like a year and a half to kind of be to kind 490 00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.839 of be full. But uh, you know, my dad, my dad 491 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:01.960 ever had facial hair. I remember one year. I mean, there's a 492 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:05.359 kid one time I said he hadn't shaved in several days. I'm like, 493 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.400 what the hell? Is going on, and when he had had some like 494 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:13.440 a rash, he gotten on his face and he couldn't he know, he 495 00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:15.160 just couldn't shave because he was gonna he would have cut his face. All 496 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:21.559 But facial hair was not a big deal in my family. And my wife 497 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:22.680 hates it. She doesn't want. She doesn't want, I'm gonna have facial 498 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.240 hair. So okay, if she, if she that's what she says, 499 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:31.400 then that's what she gets. Happy wife, happy exactly, all right, 500 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:34.720 like she would take our break, ye, all right, last break. 501 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.119 We're gonna come back. We will have plenty of time to take your calls. 502 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:40.759 Five to zero, four one, six, seventy four forty. We're 503 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:45.640 gonna finish this conversation about the legacy stuff. We were talking about Loot's legacy 504 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.119 and then we got a couple of calls. We always appreciate the calls, 505 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:51.640 but we're gonna get back to that as soon as we get come back from 506 00:32:51.640 --> 00:33:07.440 the break. I'll stick around. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, 507 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:09.880 you know it's been successful for newly forty years. Now. Take a look 508 00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:13.839 back at the Ludolson era. In my new book, Lessons from Loot, 509 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:15.559 it was a labor of love to the eyes of twenty five former players, 510 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:20.200 coaches, and friends to give insight to the coach and the man who led 511 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.640 them, competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his 512 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:28.119 twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from Loot is an insight to 513 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.799 how he built the program into a national powerhouse. What one email me at 514 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:37.000 Steve dot riveray five at gmail dot com. Hey, Walcat Nation, Jake 515 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:40.640 Fisher here, I got to tell you about my winning team over at Arizona 516 00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:45.119 Health Insider. I was able to get a customed private health insurance plan with 517 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:50.680 no deductibles, no code, pays nationwide coverage, and I get to pick 518 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.319 my own doctor for lessons two hundred dollars a month. If you want to 519 00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:58.960 avoid getting gouged on the exchange and you want real health insurance, call Arizona 520 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:04.839 Health Insiders five two zero eight five zero six eight six six five two zero 521 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.239 eight five zero six eight six six bear down. What's your goal? 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We want you to join the action 553 00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:29.480 A Team offers a fun and exciting opportunity to work in the sports and entertainment 554 00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:32.079 industry, with flexible schedules that are perfect for those looking for a part time 555 00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:36.239 job or a second income. Come be a part of a winning team. 556 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:44.800 The A Team apply online today at a team security dot Net. Streaming live 557 00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:49.280 on the iHeart Radio Whap. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera 558 00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:53.719 and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to Y 559 00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.840 in the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty on Steve Rivera, he's Jakenzos. 560 00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.159 We have sixteen minutes you guys, give you as quick call, let 561 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:04.800 us know your thoughts. Five to four one six seventy four forty. We're 562 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.159 gone for a while, so does will be your last chance for a while. 563 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:12.039 This is it. We're gonna be out until June the seventh. We'll 564 00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.000 be back on Wednesday, June seven. Steve and I are both gonna take 565 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:16.639 again take our time off, so we take it off at the same time, 566 00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:21.199 so that the rest of the summer you've got both of us for every 567 00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:23.800 show, so we don't have to split things up. So we both need 568 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:27.760 it again, you know, we're both look a little scruffy today, look 569 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.519 like we need the time off and gonna get used to the heat, gonna 570 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.199 get back. Yeah, so we'll uh, well, you can always go 571 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.559 to our podcast page. So you go go to the on the iHeart app 572 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:43.039 search I on the ball, and you come up with our with our faces 573 00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:46.559 and shows and you can pick you They're all all the way back, so 574 00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:50.440 you can pick any show that maybe you missed so or you want to hear 575 00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:53.719 a guest that we had. So we talked about this yesterday and one of 576 00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:58.039 our listeners, loyal listeners, said, do you know what's gonna happen? 577 00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.639 Now, you know what's gonna happen. What's happened the Pac twelve would be 578 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:06.440 decided. Something will happen with the football program, Tommy Lloyd, something happen 579 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.400 with the basic basketball program. We'll softball. Well, you know what, 580 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:15.840 if this this lodges the whole Pac twelve thing, then I'll be happy with 581 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.679 that. Okay. If if if we leave and it makes it happen, 582 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:23.400 then mission accomplished and we'll come back and we'll talk all about it. But 583 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.480 it's like going to the shower and you get winning for that phone call every 584 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.239 time man or the bathroom, you know, every time, you know you're 585 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.719 sitting there, you're you know, you're on You've been on hold for an 586 00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.880 hour and a half of somebody. You go to use the bathroom and they 587 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:38.599 kick out and there you are. So but yeah, hey, look, 588 00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:42.440 if it shakes all that stuff loose, then then you know what, you 589 00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:45.400 can thank us when we get that. June, like you said June seven 590 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:49.679 seven, and we said the Wilner said, Late June said, Late June 591 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.920 said. He's been saying this for a year now, right. You know, 592 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.239 he took a chance. He went to Spain. He took his family 593 00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:59.679 to Spain. He gives a spring break for his kids. And you know, 594 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.559 and when what I saw on Facebook that he was in Spain, I 595 00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:07.000 said, it's gonna happen. No, no, he's already back. He 596 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:08.400 came. Remember we had him on the show he had just gotten back. 597 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:10.719 Thought he was on the way to go. No, no, we had 598 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:15.800 him on the show when he had when um, yeah, when he had 599 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:17.719 had come back. Soa but uh, you know, I think it was 600 00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:21.679 an educational trip for his kids. His kids are really smart. Oh yeah, 601 00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:23.760 of course, Pengrad, I'm sure his wife is smart. Yeah, 602 00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:30.360 yeah, I'm not sure smart. She found him and I said, up 603 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.400 for that he did, but I really did. Okay, let's have the 604 00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:36.599 let's finish this conversation. We're tech. Okay. So we've moved from a 605 00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.360 loot, the legacy from loot and putting a lot of well a lot of 606 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:45.199 people in the NBA, establishing Ariazon a basketball school. Uh. In some 607 00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:50.199 people's minds that the blue blood here, here's the thing, and and say 608 00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:54.239 what you wanted about whether we are the whether Arizona is the actual definition of 609 00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:59.679 a blue blood. What it is, though, is one of the top 610 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.880 programs in the country. You're in Europe, right, It's it's one of 611 00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.800 those program programs. It's a program that that is not the only other program 612 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:13.320 that even approaches that in the in the PAC twelve is it has it has 613 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.320 cache right, it's a name program there there. I think we put it 614 00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:21.119 in the you know, twelve to twelve, thirteen or fourteen programs. Okay, 615 00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:23.960 no other program at a SU was like that. Um, no other 616 00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:28.920 program you know, you know, you USC has that in football, Oregon 617 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:32.639 kind of has that in football, Washington has that in football, but not 618 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:36.280 even to the degree of Arizona School. Right, You're right, you're not 619 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:38.079 gonna bake well, you're not gonna say Washingtons one of the top fifteen programs 620 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:42.920 in the country in football. So what it's done is it's put Arizona at 621 00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:46.760 a level that you're very fortunate to be at if you get to that level. 622 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.800 And there you know, there aren't a lot of them, right, 623 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.400 and it's and it's still the same program. I mean, Tommy Sean did 624 00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.679 what he could to do it, and Tommy's now continuing that. Okay, 625 00:40:55.719 --> 00:41:00.079 so it's a winner. I mean, people see these people see the and 626 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:01.960 they know what it is. The kid from San Diego State plays in the 627 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:07.320 National Championship game and where does he wind up? He winked up at Arizona. 628 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:08.440 Yeah, right, and then had a chance that some other programs would 629 00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:12.280 have gone to a bunch of different places and he came to Arizona, you 630 00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.679 know. And so Arizona is still getting those guys. You know, Colin 631 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.440 Boswell was a five star guy, you know, and here he or is 632 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:20.119 the fourth star. He was a five star, wasn't he? You know, 633 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.880 he declared early, so you know, but you know what I'm saying, 634 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.000 these guys are still coming here, right, and and and Arizona is 635 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.519 a program that gets talked about every year every year. It's it's it has 636 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.440 the identity. Yeah, okay, So let's move from Loot too to the 637 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:39.199 guys who took over for a year. Uh, the Russ Pennell and and 638 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:44.239 mug Dunup. You know, I think those guys, uh you know, 639 00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:50.760 were good soldiers, were great great soldiers. Held it together. It could 640 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:52.960 have gone way worse, right, right. The funny thing about it jase 641 00:41:53.360 --> 00:42:00.280 um and it had teetered there, right. But but so the circumstances under 642 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:05.480 Luke situation at the end um there was there was a fantastic band aid, 643 00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.039 right because it could have gone either way, and they got him to the 644 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:13.719 Sweet sixteen. Got hammered by Louisville. But on any other program would have 645 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.119 loved that, right, right, you know what I'm saying. It was 646 00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:19.280 down, it was a down year, but they still got to the Sweet 647 00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:22.159 sixteen, right. And you know, and what I really appreciate what those 648 00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.440 guys did because they didn't let it go, as I say, as the 649 00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:30.400 phrases into the ditch. You know, they held it together well enough that 650 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:35.239 you could go get a guy like Sean Miller and that there's a go between 651 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.199 him there too, right, But in the end you end up with a 652 00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:44.480 guy like Sean Miller, who then you know, got the program headed back 653 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:45.920 to where you hope it would be. Okay, So before we go to 654 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:52.159 Sean, let's go to Kevin. I love Kevin O'Neill. Okay, who 655 00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:53.960 does I love that guy who doesn't? Go ahead? And I love that 656 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:58.599 guy go ahead? I love him dot dot dot dot. He wasn't the 657 00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:00.280 right guy. No, of course, he wasn't the right guy, not 658 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:07.239 only for the job itself but for the fan base. He as you said, 659 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:10.199 he was the anti Loot. While he was a lovable guy. He 660 00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:15.199 was would you come him rough around the edges, just at the very least, 661 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:20.239 Yeah, just a guy that uh you know um, But he too, 662 00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.719 he too in his own crazy way. Crazy is not the right word, 663 00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:29.000 but it's similar a different way. He kept it going together. Yeah, 664 00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:30.800 he got him to the tournament because I think he I think he really 665 00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:37.440 loved Loot and I think he loved the program. The circumstances didn't The circumstances 666 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:38.960 were not good. It was just a bad time. He didn't fit, 667 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:44.760 and so um, we kind of applaud him, applaud him for for the 668 00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:49.320 Yoman's effort, but even it wasn't it wasn't going right, It wasn't gonna 669 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.199 work. No, no, but you know, his year and it was 670 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.039 just a difficult, weird time. Yeah, okay, So then we moved 671 00:43:55.039 --> 00:44:00.239 to Sean after that. At the end of the day one his this was 672 00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.960 my cal hun when he departed one a lot, yeah to me, to 673 00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:09.920 me was Sean Miller. It was you felt like he didn't get to where 674 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:15.079 he needed to get to or you wanted him to get to, because I 675 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.599 don't feel like he was as well rounded as he needed to be. Well 676 00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:23.960 right, he was. He was little narrow basketball things down the middle, 677 00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:29.239 and I think he lost sight of some of the other stuff that need to 678 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:34.639 be a part of that to get to a couple of final fours and stuff 679 00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:37.199 like that. You know, he just well, he got so caught up 680 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:40.360 in in the five star recruits and bringing in the one and done guys, 681 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:44.559 thinking that I get three or four of those, I'm gonna win a national 682 00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:46.440 championship. I'm gonna get to the national championship. And he never got it. 683 00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:52.119 That in addition to what you said about Mike Stoops, he wasn't the 684 00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.280 the public guy, didn't want to deal with all the other stuff. Right, 685 00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.800 we already saw him. You never saw his wife in public dealing with 686 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:04.719 and you saw him very rarely shaking hands, kissing babies. Yeah, you 687 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:08.239 know he you know, he did a he was an ad guy for a 688 00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:12.199 couple of companies, like a huge federal credit. Yeah, and they and 689 00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:14.199 they dropped him right into a bunch of stuff. You know, Louke, 690 00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.119 remember lou with the air conditioning Perry. He didn't cool, Yes, all 691 00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:21.199 that stuff, you know, just Sean wasn't. I just felt like Sean 692 00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:24.159 had been a more more rounded guy as a person, not you know, 693 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:28.960 to accept all the things again that come with being a college Sure, he 694 00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.079 wouldn't have put so much pressure on himself to say I've got to get five 695 00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:35.000 star guys or people gonna think I'm doing a crappy job. And this may 696 00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.840 be this is a dude sitting in the studio in Tuscon, Arizona, which 697 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:43.000 take for whatever it's worth, but the best thing to happened to Sean in 698 00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.719 a weird way from Steve Ver saying this which is totally wrong. Maybe is 699 00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:51.039 that he was let go and he found he found Sean again, we saw 700 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:54.199 that story. He said it publicly. He did things differently, right, 701 00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.760 he even changed his offense from guns. Yeah, and he turned into this 702 00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.880 guy again right in his in his you know, the the particle suddenly return 703 00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:06.679 home and maybe the guy that he was a Xavier when he then he got 704 00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:09.639 here and felt he had to be something different, right right right? And 705 00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:13.960 no, no, that was the problem. Yeah, and and uh again, 706 00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:15.559 you know he came so close and I was rooting for him. I 707 00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:19.880 was rooting for him, and and you know, I don't know. We 708 00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:24.079 talked about this. Uh, Ryan Reynolds had he one shot one shot that 709 00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:29.480 shot that Johnson took against Wisconsin the first time, ye had that gone in 710 00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:32.079 the whole legacy changed? Or the shot that Jamal Horn missed, or the 711 00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:37.239 shot against one shot Connecticut. Yeah, he changed the whole place. If 712 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.360 he gets to one final four, it's it's all different. Yeah, right, 713 00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:44.519 And I mean you know that duke, that duke came in the sweet 714 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.239 sixteen that year twenty eleven. Oh, I watched that game over and over 715 00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:50.880 and over. Yeah, and now I don't watch the whole game. I 716 00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:55.599 watched the point where Arizona goes on that on that run, that's just unbelievable 717 00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:59.840 run that just teams don't do the Duke, right, I mean that team 718 00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:04.159 had Kyrie Irving on it, right then Williams just and then and Derrick Williams 719 00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:08.199 and I kind of watched and I think it started like five minutes into the 720 00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:13.039 second half or something like that. It's this massive run and you just go, 721 00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.599 that may be the best stretch of basketball ever played in Arizona, right, 722 00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:21.280 I mean it could be. I mean, you know when you think 723 00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:22.760 about the runs like that, you know there were some runs like that that 724 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.639 Arizona had it with other two with the eighty eight team in the two thousand 725 00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:29.320 and one team and stuff. But in terms of a it was about a 726 00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.960 ten minute run circumstances. It was about a ten minute run against Duke, 727 00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:37.559 you know, a number one seed in the in the in the sweet six 728 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.400 team, and they just went off and did that to those guys. It 729 00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:44.400 was like, you don't do that to those guys. And that's the kind 730 00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.519 you felt like when that happened, you thought, this program you can get 731 00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:52.239 back to you. This is made it This is another stupid statement by me, 732 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.400 but it's just an observation. Um, And I'm asking you, a 733 00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:59.559 guy who gets advice from people on the other radios, just do you think 734 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:05.639 do you think that people are destined for their destiny if that makes any sense, 735 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.840 that he's he was destined not to get to a final four here that 736 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:13.440 uh, that you're destined to to do what you do. I'm destined to 737 00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:15.719 not ever go to a damn Rose. Well, yes, stuff like that, 738 00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:22.119 stuff like that I believe in some Yes, in some cases yes, 739 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.800 I thought. You know, no, I don't feel like that about about 740 00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.320 Sean Miller because I felt like all the pieces were there but but but he 741 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.679 didn't. But you know, as you said, a couple of shots and 742 00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:37.800 he's there. That's my point, though, something that something, something got 743 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.440 in the way, something got in exactly. Yeah, you're gonna make me 744 00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:43.599 believe that, And I don't want to believe well because you don't, Because 745 00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.440 you don't, I do, And I'm sure people do that you're and I'm 746 00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.800 not just saying specifically. It could be with me for things and for you 747 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:53.920 for things. I guess because I'm ay, what goes around comes around kind 748 00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:57.880 of guy. Okay, I feel like okay, And that's I guess in 749 00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:01.159 a sense, right, because I do feel said, if you're if you're 750 00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:05.639 a butthead, you're gonna pay for being a butthead from time down the road 751 00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.760 somehow, some you know, somehow down the road. If you're a jerk 752 00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:14.159 and you're jerk to people, it comes back to get you. And I 753 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:16.760 do believe I've always believed that, and so yeah, maybe I guess I 754 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:22.880 do believe that in in a different contentference kind of context exactly, but uh, 755 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.320 you know, I you know, to me, the legacy he left 756 00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:31.159 was that the Arizona is still a program that can be can be a blue 757 00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:34.840 blood right, can be at the top of the at the top of the 758 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:39.440 food chain. It's it's very it's right there. He kept it there. 759 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:45.599 He left it that way, even with all the FBI stuff. Yeah, 760 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:50.280 because because of what Tommy Lloyd has been able to do so quickly. He 761 00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:53.079 didn't leave it a mess. It was not a mess. It was just 762 00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:57.480 true, not quite good enough for him to keep his job, but it 763 00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:01.719 wasn't a mess. A lot of coaches would not have gotten fired when Sean 764 00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:06.599 Miller got fired. You know, if the FBI thing doesn't happen. I 765 00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.119 think Sean Miller is still comes I really do. I don't disagree with you, 766 00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:15.280 but that's a big that's a big if this doesn't happen. I know, 767 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:17.719 I know, I know that. But but the point being that he 768 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:22.559 didn't leave the program in the shamble, in the shambles when you think of 769 00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:29.239 the John mcavix shambles, the the Kevin Sumlin shambles, and the shambles that 770 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:30.679 have been left in other places. I get that. And then we point 771 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:34.400 this out because everyone talks a lot of people, we talked about this all 772 00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:39.920 the time, that that that Tommy took Sean's players and right well and still 773 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:45.079 coach them right. It could have been the comes in and screws it up 774 00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:49.239 well Ben Lindsay, right, Ben Lindsay did. But the thing with the 775 00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:53.800 thing with Tommy Lloyd was was that pieces were still there for the program to 776 00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:59.199 still be really good. Now, nobody expected him to win thirty thirty four 777 00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:02.760 games whatever they want that first season, but the fact that that was possible 778 00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.519 all right, tells you that Sean Miller did not leave it a mess. 779 00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:08.920 No, no, no, It was just a different style and I'll go 780 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:13.519 to my graves saying this, Uh, Sean had his style, tough, 781 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:19.239 gray, just in your blue collar, just beyond blue collar. And then 782 00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.280 he's gone with the same players. Then Tommy comes in and says, okay, 783 00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:27.000 guys, take you know, you make mistakes, don't worry about it. 784 00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.760 I'm not gonna yank. You're gonna make mistakes. Things like that happen. 785 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.239 It's like the step dad and comes in, Come on, you want 786 00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:36.360 ice cream cone at eleven pm, Go ahead and have one. Just don't 787 00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.840 tell your mom. You know what I'm saying. That's the cool dad cools 788 00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.719 some cake for breakfast. Yeah, yeah, because that's all that's in the 789 00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.840 kitchen. But you know, and and they and they took it. They 790 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.800 took to that right right. But but again, you know, if for 791 00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:52.559 if tomm lloyder would have come in and gone, you know, twelve and 792 00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:55.440 eighteen, right, then you go, damn, Sean, what the hell 793 00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.039 did you do to the program? Correct? But that didn't happen. Correct. 794 00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:02.119 No, So I think he left it in a pretty good shape. 795 00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:06.480 He left it with players. Yeah, there's no question any anyone still and 796 00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.559 still a winning field to it. Sure, right, sure you was still 797 00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:12.880 a good field. You just didn't know how good of the winning was, 798 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.880 right, right, So I know I feel that. So at the end 799 00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:19.519 of the day, how would you grade it? Hold I great him, 800 00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.599 Yeah, I think we've took a B minus. Yeah, yeah, your 801 00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:27.880 mind. Yeah, the Russian judge all of a sudden, Yeah, he 802 00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:30.639 won a lot and and and some of those. He won some big games, 803 00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:34.960 and he won some important games, got to the lead eight three times. 804 00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:39.000 You know, he was that close. He was close close. Okay. 805 00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:42.360 I thought that was just a good topic, good, good fun topic 806 00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:45.199 for last day before we get out of here. Okay, so we're out 807 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.960 until June the seventh, Wednesday, June the seventh, we'll be back. 808 00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:53.360 There'll be some uh uh national feed will run each day, but hey, 809 00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:57.920 listen to the podcast, follow it, follow us up on the iHeart app. 810 00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:01.159 You can also find us on the on the Apple Podcasts search I on 811 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:06.639 the Ball. You'll see our great our great mugs when we were clean shaven 812 00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:07.920 and stuff. Well are you no, no, no, you're shavin I 813 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:12.159 am you aren't, um, but uh, you know, listen to some 814 00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:14.199 of those, go back to some of the great shows that we've had. 815 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:16.079 Yeah, we will be back we'll try to get some great gifts for the 816 00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:20.920 summer because they'll be off for a while, right well, we'll try to 817 00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:24.159 be back some good stuff for the summer. So everybody, have a great 818 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:28.679 Memorial Day weekend, be safe, and we'll see you or talk to you 819 00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:30.440 on June the seventh. Have a great weekend.