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It is the big Tub Breakdown time
of Jumps. Top Bridges here with you

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with a comprehensive look around the Victoral
conference this week. We begin, as

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we do each and every week,
with our hot takes, and Tom,

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I'll go ahead and get this thing
started first on the hot take front,

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and I'm gonna add to Austin for
this one. And I'll say this,

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Tom, this isn't so much a
hot take. This is more like I

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feel like I got to educate with
this one here. There have been discussions

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now that we've seen, you know, with Texas with Quinn Eewers go down,

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looks like he's going to be out
for an extended period of time,

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that they are going to go forward
with Malik Murphy as they're starting. He

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is the number arch. Arch is
the number three. And that's how it's

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always been. Uh Arch I told
everybody this, I said, Arch is

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the number three quarterback. That's how
it's been since he arrived on campus.

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And Malik Murphy looked really good in
the spring. And Malik Murphy is a

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good quarterback. And we heard from
Sark He's already announced it. Malik Murphy

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is starting this upcoming week. And
you know Arch Manning will be the number

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two quarterback and Malik will go from
there. And the point that I would

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like to make to educate the people
out there, specifically Thomas Bridges, based

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on just what I heard of this
not Arch business, is that this is

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the right decision that Sark is going
with here. Malik Murphy is the veteran

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quarterback. He is more ready for
this moment. Arch came from a program

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in Louisiana that was a small school
where he didn't face much tough competition.

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He is dealing with a learning curve
of sorts, and if Arch would have

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earned the job to be the number
two quarterback, he would be the number

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two quarterback. Sark is a quarterback
guru, a quarterback wizard. There's no

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reason to hold arch Manning back if
he's ready. And so I'll say,

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I know that I've had my differences
with Sark, and I've questioned some things

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about him, but on this quarterback
front, I think that they're making the

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right call. I don't think there's
going to be a very long leash on

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Milike Murphy necessarily, but for a
team that's trying to contend for the Big

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twelve, that wants to get to
the college football playoffs. This is about

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a move for now. This is
not about next year. We fully expect

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arch Manning to be their starting quarterback
next year. But at this very moment,

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this place in time, this is
the right decision to go with Malik

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Murphy here, Tom, I mean
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you know, I think that Texas
is in a I think they'd feel a

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lot better if they had beaten OU. You know, are the Mormons gonna

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storm into Austin and take down the
Longhorns this weekend? I don't think so.

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I think you are you going with
the Joseph Smith Wildcats? I'm not.

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I think Texas will win. I
think it should be an interesting game.

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I like what BYU has done this
year, and they've been, without

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question, the best of the new
members in the Big Twelve. But I

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think that Texas should be able to
take care of business and win this football

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game. And I think people are
gonna be impressed with Milike Murphy, I

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think Tom. One way to look
at this is that this is kind of

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like an open audition for Milake Murphy
for when he inevitably enters the transfer portal

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after this upcoming season. To go
be a starter somewhere else next year.

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I mean, heck, there's a
number of programs that are gonna need quarterbacks

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next year, from the likes of
Alabama, the USC just to name a

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few. Maybe Malik Murphy goes out
their balls out and you know, ends

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up with a pretty good program next
year. Yeah, yeah, I think

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so too. And maybe this is
the opportunity for him to get that.

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And you know, let's look at
their schedule, Like Texas has b YU

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at home. If they were going
to you know, if they were going

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to Mormon Landia this weekend, be
a little worried. You've got I think.

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I think next week against k State
is their toughest test left of the

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regular season, and that's and that's
in Austin. Yeah, both to go

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to Manhattan, they they luck out. They only leave the state of Texas

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one more time the rest of the
year, and that's to go to Iowa

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State struggles in the past too,
Yes, I mean aims no joke.

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Well, I don't you know,
Ames is a nightmare. I don't care

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who you are. Yeah, and
then you got what I mean, you

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got one, two, you got
three your last five at home and then

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the other game that you play a
ways in Fort Worth where there's already gonna

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be a big presence of fans.
Anyway, TCU has been subpar at best,

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you know. And then if you
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game, which if they went out
they I believe they would be if OU

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doesn't lose out. It's weird not
having the round robin this year. Yes,

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it's very it's very strange, and
I'm sure that only points will end

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up coming down and with no divisions
anymore in the Big Twelve and a number

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of other leagues, I'm very confused
on how some of these tie breakers play

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out. But carry on, Yeah, I mean especially I'm not saying Oklahoma

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State is gonna beat OU that well, that'll be a hot take for the

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next week. But if that happens, if or if you or if OU

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loses one like they almost did against
UCF, that becomes a whole new tie

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breaking mess. If if things pan
out, I mean, it's it's it's

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crazy, But I mean that being
said Jones, I mean, I think

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they should be fine. I'll be
rooting for the Mormons this Saturday, you

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know, and I think the rest
of the Big Twelve will be too.

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I think a lot of the people
in the Big twelve that were part of

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the Hateful Eight, we're probably rooting
for UCF as well, and that's what

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you're gonna get. And then you
know, Texas had a scare though against

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Houston so and what was add about
that last week was that was the type

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of game. If you looked at
the score, you would have thought,

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oh, Texas probably came out flat
and had to come back from behind to

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win. No, they actually came
out looking really good and then just hit

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a wall and you had that terrible
spot at the end of the game there,

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which was just ridiculous, But nonetheless
it happened, and Texas moves on

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from there. But it's an interesting
stretch ahead. What's your hot take this

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week? I'm gonna say that that
Oklahoma State gets the dub against Cincinnati.

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That's not the hot take part.
But I think with the win, I

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think the voters will make it a
ranked matchup for Bedlam. I think Bedlam

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is a ranked matchup. And if
you would have told me that after the

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South Alabama game, or even maybe
after the first game of the season for

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USSUE, I would have laughed.
But OSU knock on Wood seems to have

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turned it around a little bit.
Amazing what having one quarterback instead of three

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you can do for your football team. And if Ben would have just listened

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to me from the beginning when I
said Alan Bowman needs to be your guy,

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then he would have been just fine. We probably wouldn't have gotten Yeah,

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we could have been better. And
the other you mentioned. Everybody's talking

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about the quarterback thing. But Ollie
Gordon in that game again South Alabama,

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he only had like seven touches.
If that like, why was he not

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involved more in the offense at the
beginning of the year. He's been fantastic

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and he I mean, if you
want to talk hot, take Tom here's

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one for you. Ollie Gordon actually
might end up being a Heisman finalist when

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Zael said and done. If he
continues at this rate, playing as good

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as he is, he might be
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And then he is on a tear
and he is the reason why that

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they've turned the corner that they have. I mean, yeah, if if

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Ollie Gordon is the re If Ollie
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pretty much half the game, he
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and has two touchdowns and they beat
oh You. I'm ready to put him

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in New York at the end of
the year. If os you can scrap

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by and somehow manage to get back
to the Big Twelve Championship in Dallas,

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I would my I would have to
change my pants on the way to Arlington,

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because I would I would have shipped
my pants. I would ship my

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pants on the way to Arlington.
I thought you were implying you'd have to

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change your pants because something else would
have happened. Well, maybe both.

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I might have to change the front
and the back. You know what I

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mean, like like oh shit,
like uh and and you know, Billy,

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a friend of the show, Billy
Locke, is already ready to say,

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like we'll see you in Arlington.
I'm like, whoa, whoa,

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whoa, Billy, Like listen,
like if they beat oh you, which

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is a stretch, oh sorry,
sneeze, if they beat O you,

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I'll be ready to have my heart
broke again. Let's I'll be ready for

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Payne. Let's go to the Big
twelve slade of games this week Oklahoma Kansas,

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Big Noon Saturday of Lawrence folks,
and good news for the Kansas Jayhawks.

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Jalen Daniels is expected to finally be
back this week. But even with

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that said, I'm not getting my
hopes up town because he was supposed to

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play that Texas game, woke up
that morning with back pain and we haven't

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seen him skins. So this is
not a knock on Jalen. Don't take

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a long away, folks, but
I'll believe it when I see it of

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him actually playing, you know,
and being on the field. But nonetheless,

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that Kansas team is two different teams
when Jalen Daniels plays and when Jason

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Bean plays. I think Bean's a
very good backup, but your offense is

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limited when you had to go with
Bean versus Jalen Daniels. If Kansas is

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gonna win, it's gonna have to
be a shootout for the Jayhawks have a

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chance. They're gonna have to outscore
owe you because Kansas's defense isn't stopping anybody.

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As far as I'm concerned, Oklahoma, I think if they play their

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game, if the defense shows up
like they've been doing for most of the

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year, it looks like one of
the better defenses in college football. Oklahoma

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can win this game by two scorers
potentially, But to me, that's what

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this game comes down to. Can
Kansas turn it into a shootout if they

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can have a chance, But I'm
not expecting that. I think that Oklahoma

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probably This is a close game for
three quarters and Oklahoma does what they do.

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We've seen them do a really good
job of finishing football games where they

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go to the run. Game last
week wasn't their best game, yet they

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still found a way to win.
Oklahoma eventually wears them out the more physical

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team. That's another problem Kansas has
had is that they're not the most physical

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team by any means. Oklahoma,
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much. They win probably broyly about
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In Lawrence. There you have spreads
ten as though you cover. I

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lean towards no, I would say
less than ten, but I do think

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that's Noah. We'll see what goes
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this week KSE State taking on Houston
Houston at three and four. They've played

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a lot better football last couple of
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K State. I loved what I
heard from Climban's response. He was asked

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about how his thoughts on if it
worked playing two quarterbacks last week, and

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his response was forty one to three, So yes, very much so.

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Avery Johnson looks good. Well,
Howard looked good. I think Houston comes

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back down to earth a little bit
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They're defying the odds playing two quarterbacks
here. I think Avery's probably their

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better option long term, but I
think it's gonna be a deal tom for

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now where they go with kind of
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And I think Climbing's got a good
enough track record to muddy the waters

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through this situation of going forward with
two quarterbacks here. I think case State

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wins just fine. Yeah, I
think they'll be fine too. I don't

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think that. I don't think that. I think it's kind of odd to

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like because KSE State came out so
hot and they've you know, they've only

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lost two, but effectively have shot
themselves in the foot. You know,

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they beat a tech team and let's
say, what do we haven't meant?

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We haven't mentioned this Jones. We
talked about frauds all day in the NFL.

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We talk about frauds all the time. Biggest frauds in the nation.

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Tech. Oh yes, Texas Tech
is fraud university. And people like Brett

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McMurphy that promoted them and said they
were going to win the league and go

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to the Sugar Bowl, they're on
that fraud list list with them. You're

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dying with Texas Tech. I mean, to be fair, I thought they

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would be you know, I thought
they were the dark horse to maybe make

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it in as the number two to
the Big twelve championship. I thought they

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were ready for the blind light.
And they're not. And you know,

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McGuire, they're you know, I
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You want to talk about a sophomore
slump. Oh yeah, back to case.

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They they go down and take care
of business, or they're at home

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against Houston, you know, go
out, you know, hurry up,

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kick ass, do whatever you gotta
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against Tech or for Texas. Yeah, yeah, certainly. Uh, West

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Virginia ticking on UCF. It wasn't
a bad loss for West Virginia last week

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against OSU that came right down to
the very end in os U Ultimate except

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on the ground. Yeah, better
team just ended up winning, you know,

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Oklahoma State did. But it wasn't
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From it wasn't an assok UCF comes
off of a moral victory of sorts,

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if you want to call it that. Going right to the very end

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down of the wire with with ou
Plumbery looks really good. He's come to

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life. Here. The game is
at UCF and the odds or UCF by

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seven. Tom, I think that's
a little overreactionary by Vegas here. I

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think that you know, we saw
one wood game out of UCF. They

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lost West Virginia. I think it's
been a decent team for much of the

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year. I think that's a big
overreaction to the part of Vegas here.

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I still like what West Virginia is
doing despite the loss last week. I

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think they could go into Orlando and
win here. Yeah, I think so

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too. I mean, I don't
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I think that that u c F, you know, against Oh You,

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I think and I think some of
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of like, you know, oh
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and you sef kind of had something
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against them. So I think I
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favored by seven. Yeah, if
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betting man, I'm gonna take you
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take the point. You know,
I'm gonna say, all right, well

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you see it by seven, We'll
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and I think they'd be all right. Yeah, yeah, I think so.

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Baylor taking on Iowa State, I
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are that good. Iowa State is
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let me tell you about rock O
Beck, this kid, son of Anthony

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Beck. And actually I think TJ
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got to see some of Rocco at
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Beck, the former Tampa Bay Bucks
legend, his dad, and Roco Beck

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starting to figure out coming to his
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their fair share of problems. I
like Iowa State to go into Waco and

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your Iowa States, your two wins
away from bow eligibility. And you look

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at that schedule with Kansas ahead after
Baylor b Yu Texas and I was in

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k States. Every game is important
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It is gonna be it's gonna be
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try to go Bowlman here. They
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to Yeah, yeah, I think
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I hate that loss for OSU against
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of a team. But all things
considered, it's like Iowa State has flashes

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every now and then, and you
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Baylor is not Baylor of two years
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Iowa State can win this. Yeah, I think so. I think so.

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Cincinnati taking out Oklahoma State in Stillwater, Oklahoma State is a touchdown plus

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favorites primetime game. Cincinnati just isn't
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fan of Emory Jones quarterback. I'm
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head coach. If Oklahoma Stake does
what they're supposed to tom, then they

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should win this game. With ease. Yeah they should. I mean it's

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it's it's homecoming. I mean you
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roll since he's not looking too good. Knock on wood, you got bedlam

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the next week. Don't overlook that
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homecoming, you know, the festivities
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done. And and you know,
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saying they're gonna blow them out or
get that, you know, shut it

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down by third quarter or anything,
but like, hey, like know that

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there's business next week, and it's
probably one of the most historically important games

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for your for your almost called it
a franchise, might as well call it

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that at this point, one of
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university, for your university, I
would like in it. I would liken

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it up to the win that they
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of Ball, if not more important. If you can win that, we

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would say maybe a decade, then
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job's not finished. Job's not finished, baby, And I don't like their

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chances, but shit happens, all
right. One more note before we bring

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in Eric Bailey that I want to
talk about here in the Big Twelve breakdown

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this week, a lot of chatter
about the future of the Big twelve football

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and Basketball Championship sites, in particular
from the new members and specifically the four

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Corner schools and even more specifically Utah
fans, and let's break this down for

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you piece by piece. The Big
Twelve announced within the last several days that

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the Big Twelve tournament was going to
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contract through twenty thirty one, and
this was after it was already announced that

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the Well Football Championship was staying in
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That matches with the timeline of the
TV contracts when they come up at that

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same time. And if you recall, Brett Yormark was very open about his

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potential interest in moving the Big Twelve
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and then he got to Kansas City
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that atmosphere is. Every session sells
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I don't know how long now,
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it is incredible, and I would
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teams, but because of the atmosphere. The best conference tournament in the country,

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even better than the Big East Tournament
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and it has become tradition. It's
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the Big Tull Football Championship is in
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There in Arlington. You don't have
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you would many other potential Big twelve
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Arlington's a great site for that.
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these Utah fans who took the social
media to complain about the Big twelve basketball

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championship in Kansas City. Why do
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aren't we Why aren't we going to
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twelve school, by the way,
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I understand that the Vegas market is
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up for the Pickens now that the
Pac twelve is dead, I think two

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things can be true. Tom.
Yes, it takes away from the cold.

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Sure, let me finish. Let
me finish. Two things can be

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true, the Big Twelve should go
after the Vegas market, but it shouldn't

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have to sacrifice its conference championship games
to give into the demands of its new

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members. We got a great thing
going in Arlington for football, and a

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great thing going in basketball with Kansas
City, and as long as those continue

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to be successful, it should stay
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you can't use Vegas for something,
No, it doesn't mean that at all.

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Whether it's maybe a tip off Classic
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end season tournament. Like, there's
ways you can get Vegas involved. I

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think that the Vegas market, the
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it doesn't need to sacrifice its conference
championships just to please the demands of these

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new members here. If you're going
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then that comes with the culture of
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our history and the way we do
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it's about the culture Baby like don't
like, And I think a lot

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of people that are like Big twelve
pearists, I think maybe we're a little

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bit worried when Brett Yormark came in
that he would sell it out to the

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big markets are just I'm here to
make the most money possible, and I'm

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glad he hasn't done that. He's
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uh in the in the way where
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He hasn't dogged him out like an
only fans you know, uh, for

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for better or worse in terms of
explaining that. But he hasn't dogged him

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out. He hasn't pimped him out, and he's keeping the culture alive,

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like there is something to say that, like we will not be bought out

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and we're gonna, you know,
keep keep our core together, like in

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terms of what we do and who
we are. Whether the Big twelve name

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changes or not, which it most
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the Big fourteen now? Then sixteen? Yeah, yeah, you can't call

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it the Big sixteen, so Little
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Actually sounds like you're DJing a fucking
sixteen year old's birthday party. Sweet sixteen.

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Yeah, call it the fucking Sweet
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I would probably be okay with like
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The NCAA might have something to say
about that trademark if they tried to

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go after that. But with that
said, yeah, Vegas I think should

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be involved in some way, shape
or form, but not necessarily by giving

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up your your championships. I mean, take example, you know, Tom

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Oklahoma and Texas has moved to the
SEC. Oh, you and Texas aren't

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demanding all of a sudden that the
big that the SEC Championship needs to move

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from Atlanta to Dallas. After all, the great history and tradition of the

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SEC Championship in Atlanta. The SEC
Championship, I think, even though most

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OU and Texas fans would agree,
belongs in Atlanta, and that's not changing

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with OU and Texas entering the league. The SEC Basketball Championship is staying in

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Nashville. And Nashville is one of
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a great host for the SEC Championship. But you know what they are doing,

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They're moving SEC media Days this upcoming
year to Dallas, right in OU

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and Texas's backyard. And you know, OU and Texas are thrilled about that.

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And so there are other things that
we can do to reach the West

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and uh, you know, attack
markets like Vegas. Uh, but it

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doesn't have to be to sacrifice our
championship games. I mean, Tom,

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I mean, I don't know if
you've been at a big tournament in Kansas

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City or not, but I mean
people have been going there for decades,

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folks. I mean mean you want
to talk about history and tradition. The

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Big Eight Tournament for years was in
Kansas City, with people spending their spring

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breaks going from Ames, Iowa to
Kansas City and making that history and tradition

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to do that for a number of
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many people that are accustomed to that
time that when Kansas and i Was State

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played in the Big Twelve championship Game
a few years ago, there was more

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Iowa State fans than Kansas fans there
because they had bought up the tickets because

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that was their travel plans well before
the Oklahoma before the Kansas fans could get

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hold of them. Not that Kansas
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i Was State fans got to them
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that, but we'll see what the
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So with that, Eric Bailey said, to join us. Got a great

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conversation coming up with him. We'll
get his thoughts on the Sooners as well

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as the rest of the Big Twelve
when he joins us. Next join us

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now jumps forth this week. Please
do welcome into the show. It's been

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a while, but we are so
glad to have it back. It is

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Eric Bailey from the Tulsa World,
Oklahoma Sooners beat writer, but most importantly

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the second best softball coach in the
state of Oklahoma, only to Patty Gash

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Joses right now, Eric Bailey,
always a pleasure of my friend. How

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are things in your world? Oh, it's great, Tyler. It's good

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to see. Good to talk to
you again. It has been a while,

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so yeah, it's been a lot
of fun. Football season is always

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fun though, and it's always busy, so it's been a fun ride so

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far this year. Yeah, no
doubt, no doubt about it, especially

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for that Oklahoma team where they're atting
seven to zero. We'll definitely talk about

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that in just a moment. But
you brought up a point to me before

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we started that I remember when it
came out, and I want to bring

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this up again. So cool.
You know the school you and I both

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went to, Haskell, Indian Nation's
University you have a new scholarship funding your

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brother's honor there at Hashchool that was
put together by some of your fellow colleagues.

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Tell me about that and what you
got going on there at HASH School

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this weekend on behalf of your brother
here one of the coolest things. And

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I always say that OU beats like
my second family. I've been covering.

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This is my thirteenth season covering the
Sooners, and you know, though you

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beat, you're with them all the
time at practices, you're with them on

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game weekend. So a lot of
them are some of my best friends.

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So my brother unexpectedly passed away on
July thirty first, and you know,

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it was hard for me those two
weeks. You know, I was in

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fall camp, had just started at
OU, so of course I had a

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lot of family business to take care
of. First day back was probably the

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third Monday of the month, and
I just needed to get back, you

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know, get back to work.
And so everyone, of course, you

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know, wanted to see how I
was doing and everything like that, and

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I appreciated everyone checking with me,
and a lot of them did check in

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with me during that two week span. It was neat even at the funeral

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I saw good friends Guarantee, Amy, Ryan Aber and Jason Cursey at the

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funeral, and that was really neat, you know, you know, it

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was really neat to see them.
So they shocked me that first day back

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after we did our availability, we're
going back out the parking lot, and

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they gave me an envelope and said
that they had taken up a fund amongst

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themselves and started They started a fifteen
hundred dollars scholarship in my brother's name,

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Kurt Bailey at Haskell for an upperclassman
in media, community and communications and mass

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communications basically, which has caught me
totally off guard. You know, I

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had tears in my eyes when they
gave it to me. I was not

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expecting that, so really really neat
deal. So we're going up there this

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weekend to cover the football game,
of course, but I'm going to go

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a little earlier. We're meeting with
some high school representatives to talk about the

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scholarship and how we're going to implement
that and hopefully in my brother's name,

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helped some of some young students,
some up and coming journalists continue their journey

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to their chosen profession. So it's
a great way to continue my brother's legacy.

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I know he'd be embarrassed by all
the attention. He never looked for

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the attention at all. But I
really am thankful for all though. You

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be again my second family for starting
a scholarship fundraising. It starting to see

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money, coolest thing ever, Tyler. It means a lot. Thanks,

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thanks for even asking about that,
Thanks for bringing that up. Yeah,

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of course I think it's fantastic.
And uh, you know what what Haskell

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did for people like you and me. Uh, I'm glad to see that

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someone else is gonna you know,
benefit and carry on and hopefully have a

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bright future beyond Haskell and carry and
your brother's legacy. Like that is fantastic.

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So very cool stuff there, Eric. Let's start off with the Oklahoma

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Sooners, the team you cover there, with the fantastic start the season they've

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had at seven and zero, and
just the moments that we've seen, the

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win over Texas and uh, you
know, the way that Dylan Gabriel has

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played. What's been kind of your
your takeaways where this Oklahoma team stands at

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this point and and how this season
has gone, because it seems like they've

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already wasted or past what most expectations
were for twenty twenty three. You know,

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the crazy thing is a lot of
the credit needs to go to Brent

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Vinables and his coaching staff because coming
off the six and seven year, of

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course, there were a lot of
doubters. There were a lot of people

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saying as Brent Viventible as the coach, and there was a lot of people

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saying, well, Oklahoma has something
to prove this year, especially with this

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being their last year in the Big
Twelve and moving to the SEC next year.

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So all season long, during the
off season, dear in fall camp,

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even last spring, Brint Vientible has
always made sure to talk about changing

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the culture, learning from last year
and really focusing on this season and not

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you know, not making the same
mistakes they made last year. And of

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course until you see it, you
can't believe it. You have to see

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it with their own eyes, not
only for the media, for the fans,

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but for the team themselves. And
I think the affirmation is there.

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The players are seeing if they do
what the coaches say, that it's going

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to come to light and it will
come to truth and it just allows them

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to play with more confidence. So
that's what impresses me. The most coming

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off of six and seven year.
They've already surpassed that six win total and

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they're seven to zero right now and
they're in the conversation for the Big twelfth

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title. I'm curious if they do
beat Kansas on Saturday, where they'll be

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in the first college Football Playoff rankings
that come out next Tuesday on Halloween.

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This is stuff we never thought we
were talking about. You know, when

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you after the cheese At Bowl last
year in Orlando, when they lost to

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Florida State, you wondered, what's
next year going to be? Like?

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Well, here we are seeing a
seven to zero team with a lot in

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front of it. Still, it's
just a credit to Brent Vinibles and his

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coaching staff. Well, and that's
a great point. I was at Red

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River a couple of weeks ago,
and I was so happy for Brent to

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get that win for everything that was
said about him, all the doubters and

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the naysayers. To me, I
felt like, and you know, he's

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a pretty humble guy. It's all
right that that was a lot of that

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was about Brent, of his response
of coming back from losing that game last

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year forty nine nothing to turn around
and win this game when they were what

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was it five and a half one
underdog in that game, Like he is

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really just turned a page, turned
a corner from everything that was said about

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him, especially the replacing Lincoln Riley
and all that and taking Caleb Williams.

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I mean, he's it seems like
that he's come a long way compared to

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the conversations we're having about him a
year ago exactly. And the thing not

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to be lost on this is he's
been part of rebuilding projects at major programs.

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You look what he did at Clemson
when he started in twenty twelve,

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how he had to really pattern that
defense behind what he wanted to do.

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And you can go back to ninety
nine in two thousand when he was just

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a linebackers coach at Oklahoma, how
he was part of that rejuvenation of the

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program and the defense. We're seeing
the same blueprint with Oklahoma this year.

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In the first two years, how
every you know, the team went through

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some growing pains last year, he
really didn't have time to really recruit to

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the needs of the team. Last
year. He was really filling in some

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gaps this year, even coming off
the six and seven year he recruited really

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well, and we're seeing and some
of those transfer portal guys come in and

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make instant impacts and that's been huge
in the seven zero start. To be

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honest, Tyler, I don't if
the transfer portal rule wasn't in place right

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now, I don't know how long
this turnaround would be for Oklahoma football.

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Grant Vinables has been able to really
fill in some gaps right away, and

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we're seeing some of these guys make
instant impacts and that's been huge. Again,

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you just give credit to Brint Vnables
after last year, and you're right,

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it's nine to day from forty nine
to nothing to win in a nail

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bier in the Cotton Bowl this year. Big change in just a year's time

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to where this program has gone.
Yeah, it's pretty incredible. And and

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the other thing too, Eric I
think is worth mentioning, is that it's

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not just that he had to retool
the roster and replace guys that had left,

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you know, since Lincoln Riley had
departed and all that, but also

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retooling it in his image. What
Brin Vinnibles has wanted to do with Oklahoma

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is a total reverse of co coaching
philosophy from what Lincoln Riley was trying to

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do exactly. I think if Bret
Vinables he you know, a good example

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is the defensive line. You know, Britt Vinable, I mean Alex Grinch

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under Lincoln Riley, he was light
on the defensive line at Oklahoma and they

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were kind of getting pushed around.
Well, Brient Vinables wants big guys on

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the front and on the defensive line
making plays. And we're already seeing the

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impact of that change. We're seeing
the athleticism, we're seeing zone blitz is,

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we're seeing a lot of unique defenses
that Brent Vinibles has learned over is

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three decades as a coach and he's
implementing it as a head coach now at

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Oklahoma. And again, the transfer
portal has been so good to Oklahoma.

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It's allowed them to fill in some
of the needs that they had at some

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of the key positions, especially on
the defensive line. But you know,

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but it's also surrounded existing players like
Danny Stutzman with talent around him where he

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doesn't have to make every play.
You know, he does what he needs

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to do, and it makes him
shine a little brighter because he doesn't have

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to, you know, maybe do
more than expected. There's eleven guys pulling

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on the same rope on defense,
and they're doing a good job of making

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plays and creating turnovers. That's something
else that the bread Venables has them doing.

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They're among the nation's leaders and interceptions. This is a defense that's making

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plays where in years past there was
more been don't but don't break in high

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scoring games. Yeah, yeah,
certainly so. Eric Bailey tell Us World

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showIn I guess here on the program
this week, Eric, let's talk about

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none other than Dylan Gabriel, who's
one of the Heisman contenders. Off to

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a great start to twenty twenty three
so far, and he was going last

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year but taking a huge step off. What has been the difference you think

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and Dylan Gabriel of twenty twenty three
to twenty twenty two, what's been his

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big area of growth that you've seen. You know, it's funny, Tyler,

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I've always known him to be a
mature player. He was like that

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when he arrived on campus in January
of twenty twenty two. He was very

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mature when he made the transfer from
UCF and last year it was tough because

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he had an offense that's still learning
its way, finding its way. You

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know, we talked about STEP's been
maybe trying to do more than he needed

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to do. I think maybe dealing. Gabriel is guilty of that a little

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bit last year, trying to do
a little bit more than he needed to

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do. But that was that was
out of necessity too, because this there

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was times when you know, those
high scoring games and the defense has given

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up points, he had to try
to make plays. Well. Now he's

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still that mature player, but he's
really doing a good job of using all

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the weapons around him. Going into
the season, he didn't know who his

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top wide receiver was going to be
with the loss of Marvin Men's. Well,

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now he's finding different guys and he's
trusting different guys, which has really

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been impressive. And the thing that
stands out about Dylan is he's doing this

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without without a consistent running game.
Oklahoma struggled in its rushing offense, and

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you know you mentioned being at the
OU Texas game this year, he was

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the leading rusher for the Sooners.
Gabriel ran over one hundred for one hundred

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yard over one hundred yards and he's
making things happen with his feet too,

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So It's really neat to see him
on some Heisman lists. Now will he

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get Will he get invited to New
York as a finalist? Right now he

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has a good chance to do that. I'm curious to see what happens this

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back half of the season. But
I've just been impressed with all the plays

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he's making, the throws he's making, and more than anything, the leaderships

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that he's provided. Oh yeah,
he's been fantastic. You mentioned him leading,

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uh, you know the team in
rushing that game against Texas, the

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way that they were going to QB
power so much. I was thinking to

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myself, Eric, you know,
they may be leaving the Big twelve,

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but after all those losses to K
State over the last couple of years,

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I guess their departing gift was learning
the QB power play from from K State.

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Because they've done a really good job
of using Dylan Gabriel, not just

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as a passer, but those design
runs. He's not the fastest guy by

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the means, but uh, he's
got the vision to get downfield to make

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those necessary runs. Somewhere Callin Klein
is smiling at what you just said about

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the quarterback power run. The offensive
coordinator at Kansas State now, and that's

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the thing, you know, there's
probably a little bit of worry more last

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year than this year about running Dylan
because you don't need him get hurt.

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We saw what happened last year with
him getting the concussion against TCU, having

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to sit out Red River and Oklahoma
loses forty nine to nothing with their starting

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quarterback on the bench because of concussion
protocol. Now, I know that's still

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a concern. You never want to
put your quarterback in harm's way, but

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they have a real quality backup in
Jackson Arnold where if something happens, I

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think they feel comfortable with their backup
quarterback who's young but very talented, and

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I think just the competitor in Dylan
Gabriel makes him want to be able to

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make those plays. He wants to
stretch for that first down. I think

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he hates to slide. He'd rather
take people on. But he also has

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to be smart because they're going to
need him if they want to do what

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they want to do this year.
They need him, and he's a quarterback

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that got hurt in his third season
too. I think he's probably aware of

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that too. He got injured in
his third season, third game at UCF

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and was out for the year.
Knows what season ending injuries are like.

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So I really think he'll be cautious
and probably he'll be smart with the slides.

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Yeah, I think so. I
got to say watching this Oklahoma team

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the last couple of weeks, the
way that Nick Anderson has come along,

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you know, at that receiver position, just absolutely incredible. The plays he's

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made of And where did this guy
come from? This came out of left

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field. You know. It's funny. When he arrived at Oklahoma, everyone

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talked about him being Rodney Anderson's little
brother, because, of course, Rodney

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Anderson was really huge for the Sooners
in that twenty seventeen season when they went

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to the College Football Playoff, Rodney
was their top running back. And the

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thing with Rodney, though, is
that was his only healthy year twenty seventeen,

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and he was just dynamic. He
was one of the best players Oklahoma

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had had in quite some time,
and it's unfortunate that injuries really hindered his

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career. So when Nick Anderson arrived
last year, everyone said, oh,

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it's Rodney Anderson's little brother. Well, now I really think that he's Rodney

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Anderson is Nick Anderson's big brother.
I think that's what we should say,

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because Nick Anderson is really making a
name for himself. Last year he red

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shirted, was injured battling injury.
But this year sixteen catches. He only

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has sixteen catches. He's averaging twenty
four yards per catch, which is second

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in the nation. He has eight
touchdown catches, so he has a fifty

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percent ratio touchdown to catch rate and
the college the Oklahoma record for freshman touchdowns

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by a wide receiver is nine by
Marvin Mens, and we know this game

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eight and Nick Anderson is one touchdown
away from tying Marvin. Men's just been

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impressed with you know, he's sighed, he's big, he's long, he's

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fast, and he's a young man. With the loss of Andrel Anthony,

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who is you know, the leading
receiver through six weeks, six games,

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with the loss of him to a
knee injury, Nick Anderson's contribution is going

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to be expected to go way up. And I think that's a good thing

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because I think he's a player that
needs the ball in his hands. Yeah,

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I think so. Stuntsman has been
just absolutely incredible, one of the

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best linebacker in the country and the
way that he could just make plays here.

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I mean, we're talking about him
being one of the best linebackers we've

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seen in a long time at all, you maybe since like Kennith Murray or

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something. I'm impressed with him every
time he takes the field there, you

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know, and that's a credit to
again Brent Venable's system and what Brent Vinables

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has taught him. And he was
good as a true fresh mander Lincoln Riley,

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but he's really excelling this year.
And it's not only his play on

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00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:29,119
the fields, his leadership off the
field. During the off season, Brent

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Vinibles mentioned more than one time that
Stutsman had really taken command. It was

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player a player led defense thanks to
Danny Stutsman. I think that's been huge.

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And you know, we've just seen
him make plays after play after play,

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you know, the pick six earlier
this season. He tackles for loss,

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He's always in the backfield, and
he is the heartbeat of this defense.

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Had a chance when I was visiting
my oldest daughter, Justine in Orlando

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a couple of weeks ago. While
I was in Orlando, I had a

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chance to sit down at a breakfast
table with his dad, Steve stuts and

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we sat for an hour just talking
for a story. I'm working on a

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bigger story on Danny later in the
season. And it just impressed me how

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Danny grew up and how he was
a competitor from when he was real little.

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And I think that football has really
been a part of that young man's

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life and winning has been a part
of that family. Danny's older sister,

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Sabrina Stutsman, was a member of
Florida State's national championship softball team about five

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00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:30,159
or six years ago. So this
family understands top level competition. He's grown

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up around it. And you know
what impresses me is he always he's always

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going to be himself. You know, he's not just a football player.

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He has a personality. We saw
the cigar sitting in the picture of him

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00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:45,119
smoking a cigar after beating Texas.
We saw the shirt wears, We saw

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00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:47,960
the viral video that he made in
the locker room. You know, God

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00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:52,280
only fears our Oklahoma only fears God
in Texas fears Oklahoma. That was the

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00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,679
speech. So we see all that
with Danny Stutsman, and it just impresses

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00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,519
me. I'm not going to compare
him to Ballsworth because you know boswiz w

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one and only. But Stusman has
that charisma where he's really uh taken over

609
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,519
the team and the media and the
fan base and that that's really impressive.

610
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:15,360
So as Oklahoma gets ready for this
game against Kansas, uh, Kansas expecting

611
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,199
to have a Jalen Daniels back this
upcoming week and you know, a very

612
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,079
talented team and a dynamic offense here. You know, eb for for years,

613
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,280
you know, you and I we
would cover this game and and it

614
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,639
would be all right. You know, we're getting ready for a blowout more

615
00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:36,400
than likely, you know, Oklahoma
team that's favored by four plus touchdowns whatever.

616
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:42,480
This is got to be the most
interesting trip to Lawrence maybe ever for

617
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:45,719
Oklahoma, at least in a very
long time. Because this Kansas team,

618
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:52,800
unlike years previously, I imagine it
has their full attention here. Big new

619
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,519
kickoff, that's the crazy thing,
Big new kickoffs and Lawrence, Lawrence is

620
00:45:55,599 --> 00:46:00,360
going to be hopping his homecoming weekend
too, So it's going to be crazy

621
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,840
and Lawrence, this is gonna be
fun to see, you know, in

622
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,599
the last two seasons, and this
is a credit to Lance Leopold, the

623
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,119
KU coach twenty twenty two through now
twenty three, They've won eleven games since

624
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:14,559
the start of twenty two. From
twenty sixteen to twenty twenty one, kids

625
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:17,400
has won eleven games during those seasons. Was that five six seasons they won

626
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,599
eleven games total and the last season
and a half there at eleven. So

627
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,760
that just does a credit to how
this team has turned around the resurgence of

628
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,719
Kansas football. This is no longer
that gimme game. This is no longer

629
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,280
that game. You go up there
and you're gonna expect to win by three

630
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,719
touchdowns. This is gonna be a
tough game for the Sooners, especially as

631
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,639
you mentioned, the offense just dynamic. This is gonna be another test for

632
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:43,239
Oklahoma's defense, and you know,
goofy things happened up at KU when Oklahoma

633
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,679
goes up there. I remember two
years ago it took Caleb Williams stripping the

634
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:52,000
ball from his teammate Ken Kennedy Brooks'
hands and gaming a first down during a

635
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:53,199
key driving the second half to help
with Gloam win that game. Oh,

636
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:58,199
he was losing ten nothing at halftime
two years ago for Lawrence, so it's

637
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,079
gonna be a tough game for the
Sooners. I'm just kind of curious to

638
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:04,599
see which Oklahoma team comes out.
Is it going to be the one that

639
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:08,039
started slow against UCF or is it
gonna be one of the earliest season offenses

640
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:12,159
that come out really fast, scoring
quick. Yeah. Yeah, that's a

641
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:15,440
great point. We'll see how it
plays out. Only the rest schedule after

642
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:20,719
Kansas. Obviously, that game against
Bedlham is going to be incredible there,

643
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,519
and still Water West Virginia, b
YU, and TCU the final stretch.

644
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:30,039
Heb this these final five, you
know, five games here, that's not

645
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:36,199
an easy slate for what Oklahoma has
had, especially on the road with Kansas,

646
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,519
Oklahoma State, and BETYU here.
I mean, nothing's to guarantee for

647
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:44,559
Oklahoma in these final five games.
You know, Oklahoma's really only had one

648
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:46,599
true road game, that was Cincinnati, because I don't think you count Tulsa

649
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:50,519
as a road game. There's more
conson in the stands. You don't count

650
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:52,519
all you Texas is a true road
game because it's half half you know,

651
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:57,159
I think there'll be a handful of
Oklahoma fans there too, so Kansas probably

652
00:47:57,159 --> 00:48:00,280
won't be that you know, ninety
ten thing ratio you see at most home

653
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,760
games. But after this game this
week at Bedlam is gonna be nuts last

654
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,519
bedroom ever. I mean until you
know, we're not gonna see these teams

655
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,559
play each other for a long time. So I think that's gonna be a

656
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:15,760
special meeting. And nothing would make
O ISSU fans better than to beat Oklahoma

657
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:19,599
in the last meeting. And I
think Oklahoma State's playing really well now they've

658
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:22,440
turned things around. Uh, that's
gonna be a tough game. And you're

659
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,320
right and going to BYU, that's
no picnic going there to provo, and

660
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,639
you got a feeling that it's going
to be a night game. I think

661
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:30,559
TV will make that a night game, especially if Oklahoma is still undefeated.

662
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:35,800
That that has a that has trap
game written all over it. So nothing

663
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,679
easy. I think, you know, Red Vennables make sure to tell his

664
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,840
team they just want to go one
and O every week, one and O.

665
00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:43,280
That's the speech. And you know, as a journalist, and you've

666
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,000
been you've been a reporter for a
long time, you get tired of hearing

667
00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:47,960
the same thing every week. But
we hear that every week. All they

668
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,199
want to do is go want to
know, but if you're an Oklahoma fan,

669
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,159
you gotta love it and eat that
up because that's their focus. And

670
00:48:53,519 --> 00:48:58,360
and ebe as a softball coach,
you're you're probably now telling your players we

671
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,679
got to go one to oh this
week. I take everything they say and

672
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,800
I built your down, especially in
Patty Gaso. When I talked to Patty

673
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,599
Gaso, Shoot, yeah, I'm
learning from the best there. So hey,

674
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:12,039
we're gonna start learning some infield drills
from what I've seen at OU practices.

675
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:14,599
So yeah, Patty Gaso, you
learn from the best, you watch

676
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:17,719
the best, you learn from the
best. That's great, That's fantastic.

677
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:27,039
Erica, I was thinking about this
as Oklahoma's in this not just race to

678
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:30,719
win the Big Twelfth title, but
now the college football playoff discussion you mentioned

679
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,559
with the first rankings coming out in
a week or so. If you're OU

680
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,199
here, I know it sounds crazy, but if you take a step further

681
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:44,800
to really look into it, you're
actually not really wanting Texas to win out

682
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:51,320
because, let's say, for all
intentsive purposes, if Texas wins out and

683
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,840
beat you in the Big Twelfth title
game, recency bias probably gives Texas an

684
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,320
edge over Oklahoma to make the playoff. In the perfect world here, if

685
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:06,119
you're oh, you you probably want
Texas to lose one of these games and

686
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:12,519
then uh the Big twelve championship game, whether you win or lose, then

687
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:15,280
you're not worrying abed about Texas being
in the playoff discussion here, it would

688
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,960
do owe you a lot if Texas
will we see Quinn you weres out if

689
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,880
they could potentially slip up to give
o you a little cushion not have to

690
00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:27,679
compete with Texas for a playoff spot
potentially. You know, Tyler, I

691
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,480
just got a feeling for Oklahoma if
they're gonna make the four team playoff this

692
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:31,719
year, I think they just have
to go undefeated, no matter to the

693
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:36,719
opponent. I think I think a
one Oklahoma team because you look at strength

694
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,920
to schedule, it's really not that
strong. Their non conference schedule wasn't that

695
00:50:40,119 --> 00:50:43,920
tough. Here's a little known fact. You know who Week three, the

696
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,320
Week two opponent was supposed to be
this year wasn't supposed to be Georgia.

697
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:50,840
Was supposed to be Georgia. Yeah, they were supposed to host Georgia in

698
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,000
Norman. But since Oklahoma annouced they
were won to the SEC. That game

699
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:59,320
got that team came got canceled.
So the non conference schedules not as strong

700
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,679
as it has been in years past, and a one lost Oklahoma, I

701
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,960
think it's left out. I just
I just think no matter. I think

702
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:09,719
even if they play a non Texas
in the Big Twelve game, if they

703
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,920
lose that think they're knocked out.
So I think the goal long term for

704
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,000
Oklahoma is they have to be probably
going to feed to getting the playoff.

705
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:21,880
Short term, we just want to
know every week. Of course that's the

706
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,760
one wants to talk about that.
But I think Oklahoma really needs probably to

707
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,280
win out to go to the playoff
this year. And they're more than capable

708
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,800
with their schedule and they're not to
play well every week, but they're more

709
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,280
than capable of doing that. Yeah. Well, And I thought, like

710
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,840
you know, I remind people of
this all the time. It is not

711
00:51:38,679 --> 00:51:45,760
humanly possible to play your best every
single week in any sport, and football

712
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,440
especially And for last week, when
it was clearly their off day, to

713
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:52,280
still fight a way to win.
I know some people are gonna say,

714
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,039
wow, you know it was you
were a seventeen point favorite and the only

715
00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:59,760
beat UCF by two. I looked
at last week and I said, it

716
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,000
was they're off day, and they
still found a way to win. And

717
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:05,440
that's what good teams do, is
find ways to win even on their off

718
00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:08,159
days. What did you take away
from last week? I was not personally

719
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,639
discouraged by that performance, knowing that
they still found a way to win.

720
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,559
You know, it's funny because Brent
Vinables was last point blank, is this

721
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:19,119
a game you lose last year?
And he said, I think we do.

722
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,760
I think that that's it. As
a coach, you're probably happy that

723
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,119
you didn't play your best game,
but you found a way to win.

724
00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:30,159
Oklahoma was losing twenty three seventeen in
the fourth quarter and had to find a

725
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:30,960
way to come back. And that's
where you go back. We were talking

726
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,719
about Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel again
led them to an important touchdown drive,

727
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,920
in fact, two touchdown drives in
the fourth quarter. It was comp comfortable

728
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,400
to what they did at Tegus,
Texas the week before, backs against the

729
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,960
wall, finding a way to score
a touchdown. So I think that that

730
00:52:47,559 --> 00:52:51,360
you got to be You're never going
You're right, You're never going to play

731
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,639
your best game every week. It's
impossible. It's just humanly impossible in any

732
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:57,760
sport to be perfect every week,
but to find a way to win,

733
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,239
keep your dream alive, your Big
twelve hopes, your college football playoff hops

734
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,440
alive. That was big. So
the key for Oklahoma is trying not to

735
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:08,880
duplicate that in Lawrence this weekend.
Yeah, for sure, after this season

736
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,719
with the SEC on the horizon,
you know, there was a lot of

737
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,760
talk going in this year that man, Oklahoma's just not ready for the SEC,

738
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:22,159
that they're even behind Texas and preparation. And now with this seven oh

739
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,519
start, the way that they've performed, how's the feeling in Norman and in

740
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:31,280
the state of Oklahoma about how prepared
where this program is as they get ready

741
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,719
for this move here? I think
sky high in Texas too. I mean,

742
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,719
you look at Oklahoma Texas this week. They're ranked in the top ten,

743
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,119
so their top ten teams. I
think both these schools are prepared for

744
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:45,800
the move the SEC. It's not
just Oklahoma, they both need to be

745
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,920
prepared. And as an unbiased sports
writer, I think it's neat that both

746
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,960
schools are going in with momentum.
It'd be one thing to go in there

747
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,480
and be struggling and then welcome to
the league. They're entering the big the

748
00:53:57,639 --> 00:54:00,199
sec excuse me, with momentum,
and I think that's in we're seeing the

749
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,920
fruits of Oklahoma success and the recruiting
trail. They're going to sign a top

750
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,320
ten recruiting class again this year,
which is big in Texas of course is

751
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,800
going to be top ten too,
So I think that everything is trending in

752
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,320
the right way for Oklahoma and Texas
as they make this move, which is

753
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,719
important, and you didn't know you
were going to say that again after a

754
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,320
six and seven year there was a
lot to prove. I mean, there

755
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,039
was so much to prove, not
only to the media and to the fans,

756
00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:30,519
but to themselves. And I think
they've done that. On a business

757
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:36,639
relationship, Oklahoma and Texas making this
move are as tied to the hip together

758
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,239
as they've ever been at this point. And as I was interacting with with

759
00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:45,360
Oklahoma and Texas fans a couple of
weeks ago, Eric, like the common

760
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,559
theme I kept hearing was you know, hey, you know, we we

761
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,760
don't like each other, but we
respect each other, and like that's not

762
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,320
the Oklahoma and Texas I grew up
with. But now here we are,

763
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:01,159
Eric, I mean this, this
is the nature of the like they're in

764
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,360
this marriage together. They you know, we saw Texas depart from A and

765
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,800
M for a long time. Owe
you now depart from Oklahoma State. Uh.

766
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,119
There, it's do or die to
go these two programs now and that's

767
00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:15,119
it. And I'm really curious to
see if both fan bases will cheer for

768
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:21,079
their rival when they play the Alabama's, the Georgia's, the Floridas. Will

769
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:23,880
Oklahoma fans cheer for Texas when they're
they got Georgia on the ropes? Well,

770
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,719
Texas fan cheer for Oklahoma and Alabama
is in Norman. That's what I'm

771
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,920
curious about. Well, I mean
because these two are going their brothers in

772
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:35,639
arms, brothers in arms going forward, and so we'll see what happens.

773
00:55:35,679 --> 00:55:38,039
I'm really curious. But again it
goes back to their trending in the right

774
00:55:38,119 --> 00:55:43,320
way. It's not the Ou Texas
of you know, of down years.

775
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,280
I think that's huge and I think
that's good for both programs. Oh yeah,

776
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,599
certainly so. Uh, Eric,
appreciate the time as always, my

777
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,239
friend, Uh, tell people where
they can find you and see all the

778
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,639
work you're doing at Tulsa World.
Bet Tulsa World dot com. That's where

779
00:55:57,679 --> 00:56:00,480
you can get all our stuff.
And I always say support low media.

780
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,440
I work with some of the best
people out there, especially on the sports

781
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,920
staff. So uh, you know, you can always go to tuls the

782
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,039
World dot com. You can follow
me at at Eric Bailey Kew. I'm

783
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:12,519
on Twitter all the time, it
seems like, so check that out too.

784
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:15,719
And we have our own podcast,
O You Sports Extra podcast too,

785
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,880
so I'm joined by Nason Young,
the other O You Beat writer. We

786
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:22,239
do a couple podcasts, one during
the week, one postgame podcast. So

787
00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:23,960
we're staying busy, Tyler, just
like you. I know you're busy down

788
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,679
in Dallas, so I stay just
as busy as you do. But you

789
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,840
know what, we got the best
job in the world, me and you

790
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,840
both. We got the best job
in the world. It's it is the

791
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:36,519
best. Uh. We're lucky to
do with what we do. And hope

792
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:40,039
you have a great time with Lawrence
enjoying a Haskell with Ku and and saying

793
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:44,599
hi to Brent and everybody. For
me, I certainly appreciate it. And

794
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,280
we'll talk in down the line.
Thanks for joining us, Eric Hey,

795
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,239
thanks for having me on Tyler