WEBVTT 1 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:39.560 Hello, Welcome to game Spot After Dark, episode number two hundred and twenty 2 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:42.920 seven. I'm your host this week, John Luke Shypeke, and I'm joined 3 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:47.719 by one of the only, Michael P. Hiam. Hey, y'all, 4 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:52.159 motherfuckers can't get rid of me, y'all don't want to get rid of me 5 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:55.560 because I was. Actually I have assignments to do for game Spot. I 6 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:58.759 feel like I feel like y'all are my teachers. They need to get this 7 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:02.560 done by day. We need this by tuesdays to submit deadline. I'm like, 8 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:04.599 all right, fucking fine, give me some money while you're at it. 9 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:08.159 So Hi, I'm I'm happy to be here. I'm here pro bono. 10 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:12.799 Yeah, I'm always pro boning. You know what I'm saying. Listen, 11 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:19.239 you can't have me on this podcast. What you're talking about. I 12 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:23.640 was once. I was once riding the ship, and now I'm just fucking 13 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:29.159 taking the ship, driving this ship straight into the you're in the back, 14 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:34.599 heckling. Yeah, it's about to be the Titanic too. Okay, okay, 15 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.719 uh, Michael, is just you and me? Yeah? Anyone else 16 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:41.079 here? No one could tell us no, No, we're gonna yeah, 17 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:44.079 We're gonna we're gonna be Wilin on this episode, right probably, you know, 18 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:46.760 I mean we got we got our white claus here. Yeah, there's 19 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:52.599 no lass when you're drinking claws. So ah, goodness, man, it's 20 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.159 been it's been a week. It's been a week. It's been a week. 21 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:57.280 It hasn't even been a week. It's been half a week. It's 22 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:00.959 been half a week. There's a lot of shit going on in the video 23 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:04.959 game world. I don't think I want to talk about every fucking every fucking 24 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.000 days. It's always it's always something, and it's it's it's really wild. 25 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.800 You're talking about layoffs and ship I'm talking about that. I'm talking about the 26 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:15.719 Xbox all the Xbox shit Tim Dog. Yeah yeah, they lost Tim Dog. 27 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:20.000 This has turned into the fucking funniest ship, I swear to god. 28 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:27.039 Okay, let's get okay, like all all business bullshit aside. I think 29 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:30.000 this is the funniest ship so far. Is Like there there's like a whole 30 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:36.599 swath of I guess influencer esque like brand sure people whatever, like you know 31 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:38.439 how it is. They got like hundreds of thousands of followers because everyone like 32 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:42.599 loves dipping into the console Wars like the type of people who like do Console 33 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:46.080 Wars type ship. But these are people who've like put their whole brand on 34 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:49.759 like yes, Fox Person, Yeah, and so I get it, Sure, 35 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.080 that's the hustle. But the funniest it is like when this thing came 36 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:59.280 out about Xbox considering going multiplatt with a lot of their in house games, 37 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:04.000 right, a lot of the Xbox like brand. I don't't call them brandam 38 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.560 bastards because that's like a very specific thing, but the brand influence, I 39 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:12.560 guess you could say we're like melting down. And then and then like one 40 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:15.560 other person was like trying to make this like your fucking apocalypse, and then 41 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:21.080 they were posting like Xbox lost this person lost, this person lost, this 42 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:23.680 person dark Days Ahead or some shit like that. And the first one was 43 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:28.759 someone named Tim Dog. But it's just the one everyone grabbed because the first 44 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:35.000 one is like Xbox lost Tim Dog. We're like get the emergency, but 45 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:43.360 like everything was like yo, they fucking lost Tim Dogs. Crazy. I 46 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:47.400 do think it's like interesting because it's like, you know, we live in 47 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:52.000 this world where people like are like these influencers for this brand, and we're 48 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:53.599 like seeing almost like the weird reality of it. We're like, well, 49 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:59.840 what happens when uh uh you know, something like this happens, and like 50 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:02.599 do I put my whole I stick my whole ship on this one brand and 51 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:05.400 then the brand does something I doesn't, I don't like or whatever, like 52 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:09.599 what do you do? And it's like sometimes, dude, someone said someone 53 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:12.439 on a I think it was reset era, someone sayss like, is this 54 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:15.399 what it's like to be broken up with or some shit cheated on or something 55 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:20.040 like it's not Trust me, I know it's not. I get why you'd 56 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:26.639 think that, but I don't. Maybe you've maybe if you haven't been broken 57 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:28.639 on this. I was gonna say, like, this is made in list 58 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:32.519 behavior, y'all. Y'all neat a fucking relax? Oh my god. Yeah, 59 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:39.279 it is always your turn on the Xbox, so relax. Yeah, 60 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.519 anyway, that's not on that. Yeah. So that's our report. Yep, 61 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.560 that's our report, in depth reporting on the fact that Xbox has lost 62 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:48.560 tim Dog. You hate to see it. I think if you actually want 63 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:53.160 to hear some more like in depth discussion, some actual nuance about it, 64 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:58.399 Lucy, can I know just recorded that's spot on that'll be up on Friday, 65 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:00.279 so you can if you actually want to hear some actual thoughtful ship, 66 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:06.680 you listen. I'm I'm digging, I'm in these streets. Okay, Yeah, 67 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:09.759 I'm just kidding. You shoul watch spot On. It's a very good 68 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:14.480 show. That's pretty good. Yeah. Well, uh, anyway, because 69 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:18.839 wed I'm not gonna say it. I don't mind uh Final Fantasy. You 70 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:23.040 saw it. You can tell me off camera. No, I was gonna 71 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.000 make a bit about how we hate Xbox and let's talk about Final because it's 72 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:30.759 a PlayStation. That's not That's not true at all. I'm a three year 73 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:33.959 Game Pass subscriber, so fuck you. No, I it's not record straight. 74 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:39.160 I genuinely love my series X more than my PS five. It crazy. 75 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:43.160 I actually I knew Xboxes in the pockets of big Xbox. Dude. 76 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:46.920 The quick resume. That shit's crazy crazy. Your power goes out, you 77 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:49.879 unplug it, you throw it like in the dumpster for five years, you 78 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:51.600 plug it back in and it's like, hey man, you want to pick 79 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:55.240 up that Gears of War three campaign and you're like, yeah, shimerd, 80 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:58.560 I do. Damn. That's crazy. That is wild tech. It is 81 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.279 wild. Not even my PC does. Yeah. So you know, Xbox 82 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:03.759 they got some cool stuff, but what they don't have is Final Fantasy seven 83 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:06.519 Rebirth. They don't and you gotta, you gotta check some of it out, 84 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:10.720 right, I did. I was on assignment for GameSpot dot com hit 85 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:14.560 video game website, and I went to LA to play four hours of Final 86 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:16.720 Fantasy seven Rebirth. Four hours, four hours. Yeah, it's quite a 87 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:21.279 bit. And let me tell you something, this game is fucking huge. 88 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:25.720 That was my my that was my headline for the previews. So I did 89 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:30.959 a really extensive preview on gameso dot com and I did a video collab with 90 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:33.480 the boy Richard lee A. I did a video version of that, so 91 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:36.720 y'all should peep that if you are interested and haven't checked it out yet. 92 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:41.800 But I butts play four hours, which is the opening four hours of the 93 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:46.800 game. Okay, and a lot, it is a lot. I did 94 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:49.959 not even scratch a service on what was available because so the game starts with 95 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:55.040 starts off with I mean, this is gonna make a lot of sense to 96 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:58.399 people who played the original Final Fantasy seven. If you only played remakes, 97 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:02.560 some of it won't make sense. So what happens after you leave Midgar is 98 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:08.519 that they go to the next closest town called Calm with a K and is 99 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.519 a calm town. It is very chill, quiet, calm before the storm. 100 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:13.920 Yes, oh wow, Yeah, that's a good way to put it, 101 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:16.639 because what happens in this game, what happens in Rebirth does not happen 102 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:21.959 in the original, which is Shinra basically tracks them down in Calm. Oh 103 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:26.240 no, yeah that you just like stop there and then just kind of just 104 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:30.160 keep moving. Yeah yeah, but here, what happens when this is playable, 105 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:32.279 and the demo that I played is you'r chilling calm. You go through 106 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:39.120 the whole flashback to Niebelheim, which which is an the original, and then 107 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:44.240 so you get to play a Sephroth. So the original Sephroth was an automatically 108 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:48.040 controlled character in your party and it was yes, and it was wild because 109 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:53.800 like it was a way of displaying just how fucking powerful Cephroth is. Yeah. 110 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:56.560 He would like do a move and it would just be like nine yeah 111 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.720 damage. Yeah, and you're like fucking like little baby ass cloud. He's 112 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:01.600 like, well, swinging is a little sore, like yeah, like sixteen 113 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:05.199 damage or whatever and stuff. I was like, move, get out the 114 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:09.399 way little little little punk ass motherfucker. So you go through the whole and 115 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:15.639 it's it's it's much bigger than how it was in the original game. So 116 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.360 yeah, I actually go through like a whole gameplay sequence. You spend time 117 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:24.160 in Ebleheim, uh, and this is all flashback, so you go through 118 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.360 that whole sequence. I won't go too much into detail because it is I 119 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:31.200 feel like it's not much, not extensive gameplay wise, but I think it's 120 00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:35.879 something that people should experience for themselves. Yeah. Yeah, so I heard 121 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:37.840 a spoil a spoil story. Yeah, even though it's like the first thing 122 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.159 you do, it's I think it's available in the demo the public demo is. 123 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.440 Yeah, so I'm sure people have played that, and yeah, they'll 124 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:48.080 know they know. But after that, you get to you're in calm, 125 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:52.320 you're chilling, and they introduce you to the social elements. So there's like 126 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:54.840 social links in this game. I saw that, yeah, and I was 127 00:08:54.879 --> 00:09:01.320 like a relationship bar. It felt interesting. So I was looking into that 128 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:07.000 and I actually talked to Kitase and Hamaguchi director producer director about that, and 129 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.600 I'm like, y'all doing some social elements here. They're like, yeah, 130 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:15.519 because the whole thing about rebirth is the theme of bonds, the bonds that 131 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.159 you share, the power of friendship is such a big, such a big 132 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:24.519 deal, and like Hamaguchi said, like this alongside all the other themes, 133 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:26.759 like that's what we're trying to emphasize with rebirth, which wasn't you know, 134 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:31.080 really part of the original seven. Of course you didn't have social links or 135 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:35.279 you know, relationship bars to fill in the original game. But here they've 136 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.000 kind of made it a mechanic that you take care of. So everything you 137 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.759 do in terms of interacting with them, like when you're in conversations and you 138 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.480 choose what to say to them that affects your relationship, that bar with them. 139 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:52.200 Crazy that there's like dialogue choices, Yeah what yeah, yeah, so 140 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:56.559 there's that, and there's the side quests. Sometimes they will be involved in 141 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:00.320 specific side quests, okay, and if you see it all the way through, 142 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.679 like the one I did with Earth to like you go to the Chuckoboat 143 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:05.919 ranch eventually, and then there's a side quest where hey, can you gather 144 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.639 these flowers? My mom really liked them and we want to remember Stuffy you 145 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:13.360 know, I'm a flower girl. Yeah, so when you complete that side 146 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.519 question. She's like, wow, Cloud, you're such a good person. 147 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:20.000 You got so much riz I love you. And it's like plus ten social 148 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:22.960 points, yeah, plus ten social points. Okay, So I saw like 149 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:28.960 how these things are mechanized in the gameplay sense. So yeah, it's it's 150 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:31.919 really interesting that they're going that route. But also once you step into the 151 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.600 grasslands, yeah, so you get chased out of Comba Shinra. You don't 152 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:39.519 encounter them, you escape basically, and then you step out into the open 153 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.120 world. Or I wouldn't say, okay, there's if you watch the state 154 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:48.639 of play, Rebirth is broken into different zones or regions, but the regions 155 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:54.919 themselves are like open worlds because you have towers to unlock, and then you 156 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:56.600 have all these side activities that pop up in your map. So you pull 157 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:01.320 up your map and there's all these icons for like collect this thing, fight 158 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:03.960 this special monster. Here's the side quest that starts here. Oh, it 159 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.120 takes you across the map and you go here. And so when I looked 160 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.080 at looked I pulled up the map, I was like, oh shit, 161 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:15.840 this is like kind of an open world game right in almost a traditional sense. 162 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:18.679 But the more I dug into it. The more time I spent doing 163 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.919 the things of that world, it felt very intentional rather than checklisting, right, 164 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:26.799 because you hear a you go to the tower, you unlock it, 165 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.519 and you're like, uh, oh no, you'd be softification kind of you 166 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.360 know thing. But no, no, not quite. It's still a little 167 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:37.159 bit of that, and it's still sometimes it feels like you're going through the 168 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:41.919 motions of an open world game. But I think the there's a lot of 169 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:46.240 variety in the things that you do and the things that you see from it. 170 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:48.320 Not all of it it's going to like super great. And I said 171 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:52.120 in my preview that the sometimes the moment to moment stuff isn't like that fascinating. 172 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.519 Sometimes there's there's a side quest where hey, get your chocobo and dig 173 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:01.519 up a secret treasure or whatever, and you sniff around like Truckle was like, 174 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:03.039 hey, it's over here, and then you press down on the deep 175 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.720 path and you dig it up. It's like cool, you got an item, 176 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.039 Like right, okay, that's what I guess. So there's Yeah, 177 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.960 there's just a lot of stuff that populates the map, and the map is 178 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.240 just is just the grasslands too. This is the first region that you go 179 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:18.840 to. It is fucking huge, and it's also tough to navigate too, 180 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:24.159 because it's not just a flat surface. Yeah, it's like the topography of 181 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:28.159 this place is wild. Like I can't if I see something on the map 182 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:30.840 across way, I can't just like bline, I just go go straight to 183 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:33.039 It's like, oh, there's cliffs here, I have to find the path 184 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.519 around. Okay, the path around takes me to this place. Now I'm 185 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:39.200 involved in something else, and then it's like a chain of events that happen 186 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:41.720 along the way when I'm just trying to do this one side quest. So 187 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.480 it's really interesting that this is the direction that Final Fantasy seven is going in. 188 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:50.600 Yeah, because uh, I was always curious, like, how are 189 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.600 they going to like translate the the like open world map, you know where 190 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.720 you're like a cloud like wandering around the map. Yeah, And I was 191 00:12:56.759 --> 00:12:58.360 like, I was like, are they just gonna do that? That'd be 192 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.639 really weird, Like probably not. But then like, yeah, having it 193 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:03.360 be like a true one map open world I don't think would make sense. 194 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.600 So having in these different chunks that feels right, Yeah, you know, 195 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:09.679 because like I mean to be fair like the original game was kind of like 196 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.480 that where it was like, ah, Okay, you can't really go that 197 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.960 far until you unlock you know, the choke a bow and then you can 198 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.960 go through here or oha, you n locked the boat, now you can 199 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:22.559 go here. So the end the part where like, well what happens when 200 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:26.279 you get like you know, Sid's airship, Like that's the part that I'm 201 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:28.840 like, how does that work? Like do you get a fly or around? 202 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.879 Yeah? Like maybe that's for part three. I don't know three, 203 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.840 I don't know, so like that stuff's and I'm still curious about that, 204 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:41.720 but that the way they're handling it seems to like make sense, and like 205 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.240 how you would translate that that idea of like you know, like an open 206 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:52.360 uh you know, an open world to to like modern day for Final Fantasy. 207 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:56.559 Yeah, absolutely so yeah, because like before when when I finished Remake 208 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.600 and it ends at midguard and I'm like, how the fuck are they going 209 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:03.679 to build out the rest of this game because that game is so linear? 210 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:07.440 Yeah, And it felt like it had to be linear because of just like 211 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:15.000 I mean, it felt something about Remake felt like, oh it has there's 212 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.879 an element that has to limit the scale and scope because of like how high 213 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.480 fidelity it is, because of how just there's a lot of weight behind everything, 214 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.039 like the way you move, the way the talent, like the way 215 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:30.600 that that game works. I couldn't have imagined it as like a semi open 216 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.480 world game or just like a game of this scale size and scale. So 217 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:37.559 initially I was thinking after remake, they would probably put you on a pretty 218 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:39.679 set path where like, yes, there's a world around you, but you're 219 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:43.360 pretty much like funneled into a certain direction, like Okay, now we're going 220 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:46.679 to Calm, Now we're going to gold Saucer. Now we're going to Cosmo 221 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.720 Canyon, like all have it very intentionally laid out. Yeah, because I 222 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:52.960 just thought that that's the direction they were going in for this whole thing. 223 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:56.000 So when I step when we step out to the grasslands, I was like, 224 00:14:56.039 --> 00:15:01.320 oh fuck, this is pretty intense. Yeah, and that couldn't affect 225 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:05.799 the pacing pretty dramatically, like because in the original game, like you don't 226 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:07.720 spend much time in the ground. It's not much to do. Yeah, 227 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:09.960 you just like you get the Choco bow and then you go to like what 228 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:13.480 the mine and then like you just move on right, Yeah, you calm 229 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.720 and go to the mine and then you go to uh the where you play 230 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.360 fort for Fort concoor right, you go to Fort Condor and then you do 231 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:26.879 the do the defense tower defense mini games like that one in the original was 232 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:30.960 ver. I tried it once and I was like, No, no PS 233 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:33.360 one era mini games in your RPGs. Yeah, usually not great. I 234 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:39.279 do love how they are still extremely committed to like mini games. What I've 235 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:41.080 seen, like you know, like the trailers have seen they're just like, 236 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:46.600 here's just so many fucking mini games. Yeah, yeah, like it's They're 237 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:50.960 they're definitely keeping the spirit of the PS one in that way, which is 238 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:54.679 like exciting. Yeah, it's really cool obviously, Like if you watch the 239 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:56.200 State of Play, they show a lot of the Gold Saucer, and the 240 00:15:56.200 --> 00:16:00.360 Gold Saucer had a bunch of bunch of bullshit, Like, yeah, a 241 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:03.639 lot of cool shit that was in the I'm excited to see that stuff because 242 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.159 that's probably one of my favorite That's like one of the most memorable things about 243 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:11.240 Final Fantasy seven is like stepping into the Gold Saucer and just having this feeling 244 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:18.440 that a game world is so extensive and so different in various places, like 245 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:22.200 you come off of Final Fantasy six and it's you know, an SNS game 246 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:25.639 and you go from town to town, you fight, you go to different 247 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:27.840 regions and it's cool and all. But something about seven was like, oh, 248 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:33.200 there's just like different things happening. There's different like biomes, and there's 249 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:36.360 there's like a whole these are there's society. I felt like societies are living 250 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.840 in this world. Yeah, every town feels extremely different, like tie versus, 251 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:41.879 like midguar versus, like Coasta Dassul, like all that stuff felt like 252 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:45.799 very different from each other. Yeah. Then you have a Gold Saucer where 253 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:51.240 it's like this the Vegas like area where you can like gamble and race chocobos. 254 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:52.919 To be fair, I didn't super engage with the Gold Saucer in the 255 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.440 original, but also I didn't play seven until like only a few years ago. 256 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.039 Ya, so like you know, maybe the wonder of it really worked 257 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:06.480 for me in uh my my old age of twenty seven when I played it. 258 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:10.200 But I'm curious to see like how they interpret it with this one, 259 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:14.559 because like we love in some mini games, Yeah, yeah, there's there's 260 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:18.079 some there's a lot of It was a very goofy side, so a Final 261 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:21.599 Fantasy seven that's kind of always been there, but yeah, definitely, God 262 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:25.359 yeah, definitely seeing it in Rebirth and I think you saw some of it 263 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:30.359 in State of Play. Also with when they disguised themselves as sailors for the 264 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:34.359 ship. It was fucking hilarious. In the original game, it was fun 265 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:38.880 like Red thirteen with this disguise, Yeah, disguise a sailor and like all 266 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:42.839 the other guys are like he was normal, yeah, and the like that. 267 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:48.880 The animation the for the the NPC that is Red thirteen on that ship 268 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.400 is like walking all like like wobbly and ship. And I thought, then 269 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:55.880 you go up to it and read Thirteen's like yo yo, chicho, chill, 270 00:17:55.880 --> 00:18:00.559 don't blow my cover, and that's still that's still in Rebirth and amazing. 271 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:04.440 Yeah, So I asked like Hamaguchi about how how it's like to translate 272 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:08.559 some of that goofy shit in a photorealistic game because you see it in a 273 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.880 PS one game like, oh, that's kind of whimsical, right, yeah, 274 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:17.920 especially because like I think when when they originally revealed like the remake of 275 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:19.920 of seven, and it looks like so like whoa, it's like realistic, 276 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:25.200 like you kind of expected them to be like not have that stuff in it, 277 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:29.279 but then like, oh man, like a wallmarket like was like so 278 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:30.119 goofy and I was like oh no, no, no, okay, Like 279 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.839 they're still very much like this shit is dumb. Yeah, like the best 280 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:40.599 way. You can't not have seven without that, yes, So yeah, 281 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:45.319 it's it's really impressive that they would go for this kind of scale because that's 282 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.480 not what I expected out of the seven remake series. But also I think 283 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:53.640 the way they're tying a lot of the gameplay systems into what you're actually doing 284 00:18:53.680 --> 00:19:00.839 in the activities, like even going back to the social bonds mechanic that yeah. 285 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:03.599 Yeah, So you have like a whole sphere grid type thing that's called 286 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:07.279 folios, and these are all dedicated to like partner attacks and partner synergies. 287 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:14.880 So the more you have a party level aside from like everyone's normal level, 288 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:18.880 so the party level is unlocks more of the sphere grid. I'm just gonna 289 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:21.680 call it spear grid. It's called folios, but I'm just gonna call it 290 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:26.960 spear grid because it's a grid with spears and these unlocked like yeah, partner 291 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:30.359 attacks and stuff and like stat boosts with like oh if you have Earth and 292 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:34.599 Cloud, they can do this combo attack and then you get like win, 293 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:38.359 you do wind damage, so if the enemy is weak to win, you'll 294 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:41.640 get a multiplier on top of that and extra stagger damage also. Shit, 295 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:47.680 so there's there's an extra layer of depth that wasn't there in remake. And 296 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:51.480 this is all tied to there's also a weapon upgrade system, so you got 297 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:56.799 more You spend SP to unlock new things in the folios spear grid, and 298 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:00.119 that gets you more and more of these partner abilities. And then you have 299 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:04.519 a limited amount of SP which is also based on your weapon upgrade, so 300 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:11.440 you upgrade weapons for each character, and characters have separate tools of sp yes 301 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:17.440 to unlock their partner skills and shit. So okay, so like kind of 302 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:19.720 kind of like the way it worked in the last one, but not they 303 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:23.519 mixed it up. Yeah, because I remember like didn't remake it was like 304 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:30.519 each weapon had its own like or something. Yeah. Interesting, it's cool 305 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:34.400 that they're not just like one for one just like as same systems new like 306 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:37.319 they seem to actually be willing to like no, no, no, we 307 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:41.160 should like mix it up and change the way progression works. Yeah, so 308 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:44.880 it's an extra layerup. The one thing I'm kind of concerned about though now 309 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:48.759 that I thought about it, was like, maybe they're doing too much because 310 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:51.880 I can imagine someone who's going into this. Uh it's like, yo, 311 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:56.240 I can't wait to play the next installment in the seven remake series. I'll 312 00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:00.880 call it Rebuild, the rebuild of Final Fantasy seven, And I can imagine 313 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:04.759 its being too overwhelmed by this stuff because it does part of me feels like 314 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:07.960 I could get out of hand where you jump into this and okay, I'm 315 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:12.799 the material system itself is already pretty like sure, uh take some thought and 316 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:17.759 to really make the most of the material system. And then every character has 317 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:21.519 their own fighting style that's very different from one another, especially like Tifa. 318 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:23.440 Oh right, yeah, totally. I really like playing his Tifa, but 319 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:27.119 it takes time to kind of wrap my head around it again, fully understand 320 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:30.960 the intricacies of like, oh, like the way you want to change stuff 321 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:33.680 and her like, uh, what's it called? Like, uh, the 322 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:40.279 the one like strength move that Like he was like you'd want to do that 323 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:44.160 and then like that could change that charges up. I remember like it took 324 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:45.799 me a while to like really get a handle on that stuff, because like 325 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.680 I don't think the game does like the original game didn't do like the best 326 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:52.720 job of like fully explaining like how in depth, like it actually goes like 327 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:59.319 it wasn't until I watched like Max talk to him. Yeah, who is 328 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:00.440 you know a wizard when it comes to games, Like I remember like he 329 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.119 put up like high to your Tifa gameplay where he's doing fucking like tech and 330 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:08.119 juggles where they're it. I was like, what can do that in this 331 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:12.400 game? Like That's insane? So yeah, you know, it's just I 332 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:17.160 just feel like this game like throws a lot at you, even as someone 333 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:19.599 who played a ton of Remake and I played Integrate. I replayed Remake when 334 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:23.599 Integrated came around, and even like jumping to this, I'm like, ooh, 335 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:26.480 this is fascinating. This is gonna be really fun, but it's gonna 336 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:30.759 take a lot of effort to get the most out of Yeah. So I 337 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:34.880 appreciate that because that makes it so much more of a deeper RPG. Like 338 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.119 I mean, I just think like some people are going to look at this 339 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:41.400 and be like, Wow, it's too much. Maybe you don't have to 340 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:44.640 engage with that stuff, but I will say that this game is pretty hard. 341 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:48.680 Oh okay, because when I when I did the preview demo, I 342 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:52.200 couldn't get past the the the five like the last boss of the demo, 343 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:56.759 because you need to spend a lot of time leveling up and thinking about your 344 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.480 party composition, your material set up, and the following stuff honestly helps a 345 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.519 lot. So I I and like, it's a it's a demo. So 346 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:06.640 I was like, fuck, I only have I did my interview and like, 347 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:07.759 okay, I only have like an hour left. Let me just see 348 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:11.839 what the next main story thing is available in this demo. And I was 349 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:15.720 like, oh, this is actually very difficult. So I do like that 350 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:19.720 the game isn't like a walk, like a breezy walk. Sure in the 351 00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:22.680 sense I say it's my previews that I like it when games push back on 352 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:26.279 you and say, hey, you need to engage with these systems if you 353 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:30.279 want to keep moving forward, cause you know, you can have all these 354 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:33.240 these wild systems in place, but if you're not encouraged to engage with them, 355 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:36.960 then like what's the point of having them? Yeah, it's not fun. 356 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:38.279 You don't feel like you're taking the you're not playing the game. The 357 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:41.799 way they wanted. But also I'm not like, I'm not going to bump 358 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:45.279 up the difficulty just for the sake. It's like, yeah, I'll play 359 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.680 on normal mode and see how far this game pushes me. So I fought 360 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:53.720 mid Guard's armor. Who's who's the snake in the marshes? The big big 361 00:23:53.759 --> 00:24:02.039 serpent in the marshes you didn't have to off? Yeah? Well so yeah, 362 00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:03.880 so in the original, you go through the marshes and like the you 363 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:08.240 could see the little the little in the marshes, you could see it underground 364 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:11.559 and you just have to avoid it. That's why. That's why you get 365 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:15.240 a choke about you have to get a chokeboat to like cross the planet swash. 366 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.119 Yeah, so they do the same thing in this game, but it's 367 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:21.519 a little different because it's like, here's a swamp land, it's underwater, 368 00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:25.759 and it will attack you in the swamp and that's how you get that boss 369 00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:27.039 fight. You have to fight it though, but in the original you get 370 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:30.920 the chocobole so you don't have to fight it. And then you get to 371 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.759 the cave and then it's like for some reason, it's like on a steak. 372 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:38.000 Yeah, it's like dead. Yeah, you're like this, Yeah, 373 00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:42.359 and then so I got to see, like in the I watched the footage 374 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:45.160 back of they gave us b roll, so I got to see what happens 375 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:52.119 afterwards. But it's really weird, Like everything I've played so far from the 376 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:55.200 demo and for what I know from like the state of play and all stuff, 377 00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:59.319 is that things aren't just added, things aren't adding up and this is 378 00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:03.599 intentional. This like the whole thing about Final Fantasy seven is that Clouds Memories 379 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:06.079 are so fucked up. It's like, yeah, it's like it doesn't make 380 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:07.440 sense, but not in the way that it worked in the original life or 381 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:11.160 something else, because yeah, No, remake was like that too, where 382 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:15.279 like you know the slight spoilers, I guess, but like there was like 383 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:18.680 Earth would say shit that You're like, how do you know that? Yeah, 384 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:23.200 we're like you know shit that you're not You're not supposed to or you're 385 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:26.680 you're like like there was like something weirds going on here. Yeah, that 386 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:30.440 they were very vague about in a way that was intriguing. And I was 387 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:34.680 like, also, like, remake is made in the in the context of 388 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:41.119 a post crisis core society we live in whole I said it like that as 389 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:42.799 much as Crisis Core. I mean, yeah, all of the like what 390 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:48.960 Advent Children Cerberus, which I'm Crisis Cours you don't want to have experience? 391 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:52.039 Yeah, yeah, and so yeah, things are very different in the like 392 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:55.480 now that this is made after Crisis Core, Like Crisis Core came out in 393 00:25:55.519 --> 00:26:00.720 two thousand and seven, I think Original seven Final Fantasm came on nineteen ninety 394 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:06.680 seven. Yeah, so they can remake this, remake this story in the 395 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:08.960 context of, hey, you already know what happened in Crisis Core. So 396 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:14.559 there are things that you Crisis Core answers a lot of things that were weird 397 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:18.599 and seven and so the whole thing about like I mean, Zach is on 398 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.559 the fucking cover of this game, so yeah, he's going to be He's 399 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.319 in this game, which is really wild that because before you play seven, 400 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:30.000 that was kind of one of the mysteries. It's like, who is this 401 00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:33.759 Zach guy and what does he have to do with Cloud. It's very vague 402 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:38.680 in the original too, Like it's extremely vague. Yeah, and not only 403 00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:41.960 is it vague, I remember like specifically you can like miss key dialogue. 404 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:45.440 Yes, if you don't like have the right party members with you and you 405 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.440 have like you like kind of get it. But I remember like playing and 406 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:49.680 being like wow, like they really kept the shit vague in a way that 407 00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:55.079 they're kind of doing in this one, like in a different way. Yeah, 408 00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.880 it's interesting, you're gonna see you'll see it all. But it's just 409 00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:04.400 yeah, it's it's kind of like this in like nothing is in sequential order, 410 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:07.920 like Sepharroth shows up. Is these hooded figures from like Kingdom Hearts or 411 00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:12.640 Kingdom Hearts type shit, which I know people have feelings about. I know 412 00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.720 that's someone who didn't play the original first. I didn't mind that stuff. 413 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:21.599 Yeah, I get it. Yeah, that's the the Kingdom Hearts isms obviously 414 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:23.759 weren't there in nineteen ninety seven, so some people might feel some type of 415 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:27.640 way about it, But like I like seven, I want to see what 416 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:30.200 they do with that kind of stuff. I think it would be very fascinating. 417 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.279 But yeah, it's uh, it's like, hey, you know what 418 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.559 happens to the original, you know what happens in Crisis Core. So we're 419 00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.200 not doing that. As a matter of fact, We're going to play off 420 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.799 of all those things that you already know. For a new type of story. 421 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.680 Yeah, I mean you called it, you call it rebuild, and 422 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.960 I think that really isn't the perfect Like it's that you know Evangelian absolutely thing 423 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:53.400 where like you know what happened, and we're going to use that on purpose. 424 00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:57.119 Y do that? So that's cool. Yeah, so definitely Final Fantasy 425 00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:03.759 seven rebuild. Yeah, you cannot avoid Kingdom Hearts. Uh yeah, I 426 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:08.000 this game is going to be very big in a way that remake was not, 427 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.559 because remake was what you could go through. Remaking about thirty five forty 428 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:15.799 hours and yeah, everything fifty if you want to like max at all, 429 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.720 like this game fifty. But I opened that map, I'm like, oh, 430 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.759 buddy, I'm gonna probably spend forty hours just in the first like half 431 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.960 of this game. And it is. Yeah, it's a very big game, 432 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:30.799 dude. It's a heck of a time for one hundred hour RPGs. 433 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.920 It's somehow I ended up covering every single one of them, even Grand Blue. 434 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.680 No, not Grand Blue, right, I avoided Grand Blue, which 435 00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.319 is I was thinking about picking that up because like, oh I want to 436 00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:47.240 play some Grand Blue, but I am too busy with other things. Yeah, 437 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.079 yeah, I did obviously did infinite wealth. And then we were on 438 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.920 last week to talk about P three reload, and then I did the preview 439 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:57.599 four final Fantasy seven rebirth and uh yeah, that's uh what a time to 440 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:02.599 be alive, What a time to be a lot man. Shit, rebirth 441 00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:04.279 is crazy. I'm excited for it. And obviously the State of Play showed. 442 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:07.440 It's one of those things where I heard they showed too much, So 443 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.559 I didn't watch the State of Play because I was on PTO and I was 444 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:12.720 and then and then I was like, oh, maybe I watch it later. 445 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:17.200 And then I saw everyone Twitter being like I wish I hadn't watched it 446 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:18.960 because they felt like they showed too much, and I was like, oh, 447 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:22.119 maybe I won't. They did the RGG thing, are they like oh 448 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:25.640 yeah, yeah, okay, then then yeah, I'm not gonna watch that. 449 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:29.079 Yeah, I'm gonna wait. I'm I'm kind of I'm kind of bummed 450 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:33.599 about Like, yeah, yeah, it's a it's kind of a trend where 451 00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:40.559 like these big games are showing more than they need to, or I feel 452 00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:42.680 like they they have the sense of we want to show our coolest shit, 453 00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:47.759 so no one is like everyone can see what we're about. But that at 454 00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.200 the same time you're showing your hand to it is. I felt this way 455 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.319 with Infinite Wealth because by the time I finished Infinite Wealth, I was like, 456 00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:57.720 oh, I had seen most of this in the trailer. Yeah, 457 00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:03.000 and these are like moment These are big moments where in retrospect that that like 458 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.440 you know, uh, the like early game reveal with Cure You and Wealth. 459 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.680 I was like, they really did not need to say that in Yeah, 460 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.319 I don't know, like and then like showed the whole like oh he 461 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:18.319 sees his old friends again. Yeah, fuck man, Like come on. 462 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.759 One of my favorite things about Like a Dragon in twenty twenty was like the 463 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.000 final chapters where a lot of that stuff comes together and you're like, yo, 464 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:27.960 yeah, I did not expect yeah, so and so to show up 465 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.039 and then I fight them and it's like they used them. Did also spoil 466 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:33.400 that though a trailer? Oh? Fuck? I think they did, but 467 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.799 I think I didn't see it, but I remember like not getting it, 468 00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:38.920 but I think there was a trailer. I don't know if maybe it was 469 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.359 postgame or something, but I remember at some point they spoiled it and everyone 470 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.160 was like, why did you do that? Yeah? Also, like if 471 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:49.200 you know the voice like when they do the like the opening credits and you 472 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.480 see the voice actors and like, Okay, well I know that that character 473 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:53.640 is gonna show because that voice actor. That's true. I didn't even think 474 00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:56.240 of that, but it's still like yeah, but it's like, okay, 475 00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.640 what contacts are they going to show up? So, and it came around 476 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.039 in Infant Wealth, I'm like, oh, I guess I already Okay, 477 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.359 I guess they're going to show up fair enough. Still good though, because 478 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.440 like you just still don't know the what happens in the in those moments, 479 00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.079 yeah, like what the the meat of Iteah? You finished Infant Wealth, 480 00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:18.880 right, I have not? Still I hurled by Persona, But so what 481 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.519 I've been doing is George has been playing Persona and I've been like on the 482 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:26.720 steam that's just like grinding levels and the Hawaiian hout. Yeah yokohamahu. I'm 483 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:27.880 just like, oh, let's just get it. I'm trying to get the 484 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:34.119 uh the the suit for cure you. Yeah. Yeah, And I'm like 485 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.960 I'm going to get that. I'm gonna go grind and get that. I'm 486 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.920 close. I'm close. I think. I I don't know if I remember 487 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.240 if I officially promised it, but like I know, we want to spoil 488 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.240 we gotta do a spoiler cast to chat about that one. Definitely worth digging 489 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:53.480 into a lot of it. I do not like I know, and I 490 00:31:53.799 --> 00:32:00.480 need to get to that stuff. I'm curious because, like, because it's 491 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.960 interesting, because I think there there have been a very wide range of opinions 492 00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.400 on that game and its story on the internet. Like I've seen some people 493 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:12.359 expressed similar sentiments to you where they were really I have I haven't. Oh, 494 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:17.240 I saw a few people who shared specifically your sentiment that that they thought 495 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:22.240 the game did ichubon thirty Yeah, I think so, yes, especially once 496 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.559 you see once you like, finish this game, right. Yeah. And 497 00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:29.319 I don't know what that is. I kind of I have some ideas in 498 00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:30.599 my head, I kind of knowing that, but I've seen a couple of 499 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.240 people have that sentiment, but I'll see a lot of people didn't feel that 500 00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:36.119 way, which I thought was really interesting and I was like, oh, 501 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.920 okay, there's a lot of mixed perception to that. Yeah. When when 502 00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:46.519 reviews came out, I was kind of surprised about I mean, hats off 503 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:51.680 to RGG. Yeah, of course, like, obviously I've talked I've covered 504 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:57.720 the Yakuza series to one of the Yeah, the yaka series has been like 505 00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:01.160 one of the key pillars of my career at covering games. Really, like 506 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:06.599 I owe a lot to the series for just like really changing how I view 507 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:10.599 games and what I've done in games coverage. So yeah, and across the 508 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:15.839 bort like when reviews came out, like everyone absolutely love Infinite Wealth, and 509 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.839 there's so much to love about Infinite Wealth. Sure, but as someone who's 510 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.839 been with the series for so long, is like seeing every piece of this 511 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.880 series, there are things where that that really stick out to me that I'm 512 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:30.200 like, oh, that's I don't want to say, oh, that's not 513 00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:31.920 what this series is about or whatever, but I'm like, oh, you're 514 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:37.359 kind of you're kind of losing the thread here. These are some inconsistencies, 515 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:43.799 especially even just based off of like A Dragon twenty twenty and Guiden that was 516 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:49.880 just a couple months ago, where you have to like really strong games. 517 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:53.160 I loved both games, and then now they're they're combining forces in a way 518 00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:57.000 that are like there's no way that they can drop the ball, and there's 519 00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.400 some ways in which they do drop the ball. Yeah, that was kind 520 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.319 of disheartening to see that. Yeah, in the midst of having all these 521 00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.960 incredible moments that are like I will never forget. No. I mean obviously 522 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.000 I haven't finished time and hit those moments yet, but I like, like 523 00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.679 the first fifty hours I put in that game, I was like, dude, 524 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.360 like everything that's happening in this game fucking rules, Like, oh my 525 00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:20.960 god, just like moment to moment. I mean, I was talking about 526 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.679 it with Richard Lee, who's been getting into it. He didn't think he 527 00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:29.159 was gonna like Don Doco Island, I'm probably gonna that, yeah, and 528 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:30.679 he said hated the first hour. After that he's like it got me. 529 00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.440 He's like, now he's like putting like twenty hours in it or whatever. 530 00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.280 Yeah. I felt the same way the Infinite Wealth. Yeah. No, 531 00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.480 I also got suckered into Don Doco. I know you did, I know, 532 00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.519 I sure did you capture some footage and for the review, and I'm 533 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:47.800 like, yeah, I'm glad you got that deep into it, because that 534 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.679 shit is real deep into it. Yeah. I felt the same when the 535 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:52.760 first hour was like I don't know if I want to do this, and 536 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:54.880 then after a while I was like, fuck it, we're doing this. 537 00:34:54.920 --> 00:35:00.480 But I think one of the best things about Infinite Wealth is just like how 538 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.760 much they put in that game and how like it feels like every couple of 539 00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.639 hours, like like Mechanics and just like systems and mini games, like every 540 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:12.400 few hours they add a new thing, and you're just like they got to 541 00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.519 run out of stuff to throw. You're in chapter eight and they're still introducing 542 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.639 new ship. They're still introducing new stuff, and I'm sitting there being like 543 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:24.960 it, and it's so rare to have a game do that where like I 544 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:30.599 like because because okay, so people always talk about, like, you know, 545 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.519 the idea of like short games versus long games, and my my philosophy 546 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.599 is I don't mind a long ass game as long as that game is like 547 00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.960 able to engage me for like that hundred hours. And the problem I have 548 00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:44.559 with a lot of like Ubisoft games, like a Far Cry for example, 549 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:50.199 is that like it it engages me for like a third of that time maybe, 550 00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.639 and then it says just do not do that two more times, and 551 00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:58.119 I go, but I just did all that. I don't want to and 552 00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.360 like, you know, I'm not to say like Infinite Wealth is like perfect 553 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:05.800 or like there isn't any repetition, but it is constantly throwing new stuff at 554 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.480 you all the time. Where I never had that moment where I was like, 555 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:12.079 oh, I guess I'm doing this again. It's like no, man, 556 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.599 I can go do this new thing that they gave me, or I 557 00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:15.199 can go do this, I can go do that, and it's like, 558 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.960 uh, like hats off to them, like it is yeah, wild how 559 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.679 much they pass. They're so to that game. Yeah, they're so good 560 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.559 at Like RGG is a kind of unmatched when it comes to optional content, 561 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:32.320 to where the optional content feels like essential, especially oh Infinite Wealth. Of 562 00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:37.960 of all the ACA games, Infinite Wealth's optional content feels there's so much essential, 563 00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:42.880 especially when you get security you stuff like that's the oh absolutely to me, 564 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.079 it's it's like it's weird that it even is optional because I'm just like 565 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:49.440 I should I said the same thing you like, why would you not do 566 00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.039 all this? Yeah, it's wild, like and it's very good, extremely 567 00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:58.199 good. Yes, it's it's really weird in some spots, but it is. 568 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.000 We'll get to it when we talk about House. But like some of 569 00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:04.800 it, you're like okay, but then you're like, a you got me? 570 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:08.760 Yeah, yeah, always got me. There was one in particular that 571 00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:12.920 I was like, really like, we're gonna okay, and then I was 572 00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:17.119 like by the end, I'm like, now I'll kill That's how it is 573 00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:22.639 every time with the yakas game. It's like I don't know about this all 574 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:27.199 right, Yeah, That's how I felt about yeah if it well, so 575 00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.320 yeah, I'm real, I'm really excited to I have a bunch of friends 576 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.800 who have already for who reviewed the game, finished the game, and then 577 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:37.480 so well, I've talked extensively. But for you and I, Jean Luke 578 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:42.119 and I have a special connection right that goes back years. Jean Luke and 579 00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.639 I have built our friendship upon the foundation of the Yakaza franchise. Yakuza in 580 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:50.679 Persona. Yeah. Yeah, so it's in our it is in our friendship 581 00:37:50.719 --> 00:38:04.199 contract that we must uh do a spoiler castle spoiler Gus. Yeah. Yeah. 582 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:08.079 Honestly, it's really funny that a game from two thousand and six Persona 583 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:12.159 three would also warrant a spoiler cast. I would love to do one for 584 00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.920 that. I would not just for us, I feel like for Evan Langer 585 00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.440 I feel like that boy's probably he's probably rubbing it, like, yeah, 586 00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:21.760 he's in Persona three spoiler cast, Like when are you gonna do it? 587 00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:30.599 Like it was like our number one fan when been so much? You're did 588 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.960 he at you on Twitter when your preview for Persona three went up? But 589 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:37.360 the video hadn't gone up yet because Kurt was still working on it, and 590 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.079 he's like, hey, what do you video? I need that video? 591 00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:44.840 And I was like, we got you, got you covered. It's like 592 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:45.760 I can't wait for the review. I'm like, well, you're gonna have 593 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:50.480 to go to IGN dot com for that one. You know what I'm saying, 594 00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:53.320 you do, but I do. I do like that. We talked 595 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.960 about this last week. But the fact that now it's Jess and I so 596 00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.920 I'm doing Persona coverage for i GM and that she's doing for game Spot, 597 00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:02.639 and it's like, oh, I love no, I genuinely love that, 598 00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:06.199 and I love Justice review. Yeah, oh my god, there's so like 599 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:08.079 I even talked about it. I'm really glad she got to got to review 600 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:09.960 it. I read a review and I'm like, fuck, man, like 601 00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:14.960 damn, she really like I use a lot of words. My review is 602 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:19.320 my reviews tend to be very long, but her review is considerably shorter. 603 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:23.519 But still she finds a way to just get to the point and express it 604 00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:30.119 so agreed so strongly in fewer words, And I think that's a real talent. 605 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.079 Oh absolutely, Like when she quoted the Iliot, I said this last 606 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.880 week, but I still think about that ship. I still think about that, 607 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.320 like that is such a good pull that summarizes the entire review. Like 608 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.920 I could just tell someone that, like that is what Persona three is about, 609 00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:45.199 and I was just like beautifully written and has a lot of good perspective 610 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.840 on that that Now I like I tell people, like, yo, you 611 00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:52.639 should I didn't consider this is not that she mentioned a review, So it's 612 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.360 really fun to see that now we are the ones covering those games. But 613 00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:01.320 yeah, Persona three absolutely warrants a spoil like has because that is I don't 614 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:06.320 think Persona three gets enough credit for how fucking bold it was and how it 615 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.800 ends. Yeah, it's wild how I think you and we were talking about 616 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:15.360 it where it's like I I didn't really appreciate how bold that game was when 617 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:19.119 I first played it because maybe just like the age I was at or something 618 00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.559 like it's like playing it now and like really thinking about it, I was 619 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.440 like, damn, that game was on some ship that I just like did 620 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:30.119 not really appreciate when I first played it because I was fifteen at the time 621 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:34.000 or whatever, and like, now, like, god, what fifteen years 622 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:38.360 later Jesus Christ thirty Christ, Yeah, Revolver you know he shouts out to 623 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:45.679 Revolver Jesus. Yeah, that's guy Dad persons or something. But dude, 624 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.239 yeah, that game, Like you know, watching Georgia play through it, 625 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.800 and I'm just like, man, this game was They were honest some shit. 626 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:59.719 It's yeah, like even I am, I'm surprised, I guess by 627 00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.920 how many people are taken aback by how they summoned personas even just that it's 628 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:06.639 like oh sure, yeah, I'm like, oh yeah, I guess that 629 00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:10.480 is Like huh, I never really considered that the shooting yourself in the fucking 630 00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:15.320 head is wild. It's funny because it's such a meme. Obviously, it's 631 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:16.599 like yeah, and like everyone always like made fun of it, but like 632 00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:21.320 the game itself kind of doesn't really make a big deal out of it. 633 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:24.079 It's it's interesting, but like there was a moment though, where where Georgia. 634 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:28.840 She just like got Ken a few days ago, and like she's like 635 00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:30.559 looking through his menu and Ken's just like they're like holding the gun to his 636 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.000 like this, and she was like, Yo, this shit is crazy, 637 00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:37.320 like putting this in this game that was a twelve year old kid or whatever. 638 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:39.599 Yeah, I'm just like, it's a twelve year old boy. Oh 639 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:45.159 my god. Uh. I can't remember if it was the if it was 640 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:49.320 the original P three intro, or if it was Portable's intro, but there 641 00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.000 is a clip in the atro cutscene where Ken is at the escalators and he 642 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.400 just like he's with Cormaro and he just like takes a gun to his head, 643 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:58.679 and it's like that's all you see in the intro. I'm like, 644 00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:01.320 why is this a little boy itself in the head? You see it in 645 00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:04.800 the games, like okay, yeah, I already know how they summoned personas, 646 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:06.880 but you see that as your first impression of the game. You're like, 647 00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:12.400 what the book. It's also funny seeing like gen Z's play the game, 648 00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.480 Like maybe you played Persona first or something or five first, and then 649 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.400 I'll playing this because dude, some gen zs have like a way darker sense 650 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.199 of humor when it comes to that shit. So like they're they're cracking jokes 651 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:23.760 and I'm just like, yo, okay, like yeah, that's all right, 652 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:28.199 you'll go there. You're the one who said it. Yeah, oh 653 00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.840 my god. Yeah, it's uh, it's pretty crazy, but like, 654 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:36.800 yeah, that shit P three is like you played in twenty twenty four and 655 00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:38.320 then now kind of like, wow, this is forward thinking in a weird 656 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:42.480 in a weird way. Yeah, ford thinking time. We saw it on 657 00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:45.480 the last podcast. But like it really does feel timeless, you know, 658 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:47.800 despite how like it is weirdly, like it's very much set in during a 659 00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:52.599 specific time period in two thousand and seven or whatever, No, thousand and 660 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:54.079 nine, right, it came out in two thousand and seven, takes place 661 00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:59.719 in Yeah, but even then, it's like the themes and what's happening, 662 00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:04.880 You're like, yeah, this feels extremely timeless. Yeah, so it's really 663 00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:08.360 weird. Twenty twenty four. Uh, Persona three is one of the best 664 00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:10.719 games of the year. Person three is one of the best games of the 665 00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:15.360 year. It's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be extremely tough for that game 666 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:17.960 too. It's gonna be my game of the year. I already. I 667 00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.039 I'll put it if I were, if you are betting on what would be 668 00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:27.159 Michael Hyam's Game of the Year for twenty twenty four. Yeah, I mean 669 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.760 to be fair, like, well, uh, who knows what might get 670 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:34.079 announced? But this year, the second half of the year is it's not 671 00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:36.719 really much going on right now. Yeah, we probably don't know yet. 672 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:40.159 We don't know. I mean I usually by come come key three time we'll 673 00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:45.679 find out more morn Yeah, butt four funloaded the game pretty hard metaphor might 674 00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:50.119 I don't know. It's hard to say because to be fair, I'm not 675 00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:54.840 the biggest fan of fantasy anime. But I no, no, no, 676 00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:59.840 I feel like fantasy anime has been cooking real hard lately. Oh yeah, 677 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.480 cooking really hard. Have you been watching Dungeon Mess sure, let me tell 678 00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:06.880 you no. So, like I've been getting more into fantasy anime because I 679 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.239 like, I'm seeing like the good Ship where like I think I think the 680 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:13.039 reason I was kind off put by it is because most fantasy anime is like 681 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:20.039 that, like Asa Kai. But like I was like, dude, don't 682 00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.800 want any of that ship like that's but like now I'm actually like seeing people 683 00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:27.119 do much more interesting stuff with that space. Have you been watching Free Rent 684 00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.639 talk to you about you haven't. I've heard of it, and I know 685 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:36.360 I really like it. I've been reading the mangah and so I I absolutely 686 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:39.320 love free Ren' I read, I'm reading, I'm currently reading the manga, 687 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:45.360 and then so going back to watch the anime, it's a it's it's it's 688 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:50.719 been a while since I have both read the manka and watch an anime for 689 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:54.440 something. Sure. So now when I'm like seeing I have this, I 690 00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:59.360 have this, uh in my head, this the way things move in the 691 00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:01.000 world of Free Re and based on what I read from the manga, and 692 00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:02.880 then when I see in the anime, I'm like, oh fuck, this 693 00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:07.519 is crazy. It's like even more beautiful than I ever expected. So I 694 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:09.320 felt about Chainsaw Man because that was the last time that I did with where 695 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:12.599 I read it first. And then we haven't talked about Chainsaw Man together, 696 00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.239 but I know you got on that Chainsaw Man. You caught up on Chainsaw 697 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:17.920 Man and the manga. No, I'm a few I'm a little behind. 698 00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.719 I need to like how behind. What's the last thing that happened? He 699 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.000 just went to like they try to like get him into their church. Okay, 700 00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.639 you're deep. It's I'm close. I'm just like you've you've at least 701 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:31.960 finished the first arc. Oh yeah, oh yeah, no, no for 702 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.800 the first half. I finished the first half. I'm deep. I think 703 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:37.920 I'm just like a few chapters behind. But yeah, okay. They were 704 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:38.599 trying to get him into his church and they're like, yo, you can 705 00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:45.880 get like and get and weird. Changeaw Man is so weird and I love 706 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:50.679 it and it's like really fascinating because it's like it's like shown in but it's 707 00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:54.960 like not really shown in, and like it's interesting seeing like more people who 708 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:58.840 are into more traditional show and be liked. Chainsaw Man lost a plot and 709 00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:02.000 I was like, dude, what are you talking? This is crazy chainsaw 710 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:07.400 Man is that shit is daring? Like, dude, that guy's on another 711 00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:10.440 level with his stuff. Oh my god. I fucking cried talking about chainsaw 712 00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:15.000 Man. I was at New Year's at a New Year's party, I was 713 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:17.880 talking about my my friend Eric fan Allen, friend of the show. He 714 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:22.320 he's the one who got me into change into reading chainsaw Man. Okay, 715 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:24.559 and then so I caught up and then I was like talking to him about 716 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:28.119 and I was like crying talking about like what happens at the end of the 717 00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:32.280 first arc Wild. And I think the thing about chainsaw Man is that it's 718 00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:38.480 so irreverent. It's so goofy and so violent, but the way it comes 719 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:43.320 together is very sincere. It's extremely sincere. Yeah. And I think the 720 00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:46.719 thing about DENI like, I mean, I feel like a lot of us 721 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.559 are like, oh my god, I identify so much with this main character 722 00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:52.599 from an Amber. So everyone feels that way about someone just like me for 723 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:58.199 real, just like me for real. Yeah, But there's something about specifically 724 00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.760 a work where I'm at in life and like the things that like Denji is 725 00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:05.280 the one character who is willing to like act and say what is on his 726 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:08.079 mind. Yeah, in a way that feels liberating, Oh yeah, to 727 00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:13.639 where like oh damn, like he should say that or he should do that. 728 00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:15.920 Yeah. And the way he like walks himself through the way he feels 729 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:22.480 about something feels very realistic to where like I go through that similar thought process 730 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:24.360 when I'm like what am I doing? Like this is what I want and 731 00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:28.519 I'm chasing this thing, but at a certain point kind of like what am 732 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:31.360 I doing this for? And then he like goes through these mental gymnastics trying 733 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.559 to figure out what that is and he arrives at an answer and sometimes it's 734 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:37.880 a joke and it's really fun, yeah, but sometimes at the same time 735 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:43.039 it can be very like sobering, where yeah, I do feel that way 736 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.880 where I'm kind of like chasing this thing and I get it, but I'm 737 00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:49.440 like feel unfulfilled for some reason. I'm Okay, what's the what am I 738 00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:53.360 really after? Then? And Chaseawman goes through that whole thing multiple times and 739 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:57.760 in different ways, so it never feels like characters yeah, so yeah, 740 00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:01.239 and for different characters and so, and especially the way that first arc ends 741 00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:06.239 is like really fucking I should hurt a lot or it did. And it's 742 00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:09.599 one of the things where because I know people where I saw a lot of 743 00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:14.920 people like watch the anime and were like kind of cool on it based on 744 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:16.760 just like how hyped it was, and like it sucks because I'm just like, 745 00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:21.760 dude, like that anime like barely even like gets to like, yeah, 746 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:23.159 like everything in that anime is good, but I'm like, dude, 747 00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:28.840 that's not even like one tenth of like the good shit, Like it gets 748 00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:34.159 so like and that's why I tell everyone like I think you just read it, 749 00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:36.719 like yeah, you know, that's what everyone told me too, because 750 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:38.119 I was I watched the anime. I was like, oh, this is 751 00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.400 cool. Yeah, sure, but it's like no, no, no, 752 00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:45.920 read it. Yeah. And then when I saw I've I read caught up 753 00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:50.840 on the manga, I went back to watch rewatch the first season chance and 754 00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:54.119 then I was watching like at the so I know what it's like for someone 755 00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:59.239 who maybe watched chainsaw Man having known what happens to the manga and you're so 756 00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:04.079 excited. So I'm rewatching this and I'm like way more hyped on the rewatch 757 00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:07.000 than it was the next time I watched it, because I'm just like Yoackey's 758 00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.079 here, yeah, or just like oh, like did the way like I 759 00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:15.199 think they nailed the way, like Power like behaves the voice actress like I 760 00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:21.239 remember, like what was it Power? But also what's her name? Uh 761 00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:25.199 uh no Cobenny. Yes. I remember people being mad at like the way 762 00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:28.880 Coobenny behaved in the anime and they're like, dude, that's how I pictured 763 00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:30.599 her all and I was like that's exact, and I was like, what 764 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.239 are you talking about? That is exactly how I pictured her. Like they 765 00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:38.559 fucking nailed it, And I was like, did you not realize like how 766 00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:42.480 much of a disaster? Yeah? She was. That's a that's her whole 767 00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:46.519 thing. Yeah, she's a disaster who in like, uh, what's his 768 00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:52.199 name? The creator Fujimoto Fujimoto, Like he's like she's like this punching bag 769 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:57.519 disaster that he's like refuses to like give a break. And it's like it's 770 00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.159 so fucking good. And again it's like havevity, Like if you only watched 771 00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.679 it, you're like, do you ever even got into like half the ship? 772 00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.440 No? Do you know about the Do you know about the fan pole? 773 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.320 No? Wait, I think I do the with with her car? 774 00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:15.719 Yes, yeah, how her car is like fan pole than her Yeah? 775 00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:21.559 Oh I love her though, No, I love committing to her car. 776 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:27.239 Yeah yeah yeah, Oh my god. That's that's the thing. Like you 777 00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:30.599 watched the anime, it ends on a pretty good note, but they're like 778 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.320 on the cusp of what makes what makes Chainsaw Man specially, and I think 779 00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:38.199 the so they're they're turning the res arc into the movie that's the movie. 780 00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:42.679 I think it's actually a smart way to do it because it's not that long. 781 00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:44.440 It's not that long of an arc, and I'm like, that's actually 782 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:45.599 like a perfect length of a movie. Yeah, you know, yeah. 783 00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:47.920 I like after I read the whole resarc, I'm like, okay, yeah, 784 00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:52.360 I could see how this becomes a movie because it has the build up 785 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:54.320 and then the climax is like, really, oh my god, I can't 786 00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:59.480 wait to see that animated. Did they If you think anything in the Chainsaw 787 00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:02.480 Man Season one was wild, I want to see how they animate, like 788 00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:07.280 the final Battle of the resarc, because that is some wild, wild ship. 789 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:12.960 Some of those panels are crazy. And then after that it isn't the 790 00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:19.039 Inter International Assassination arc really fun? That is that is? That's that's when 791 00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.519 they start to kick things into Yeah, and that's works against It almost feels 792 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:23.840 like a tournament arc in a weird way. It's like a tournament arc, 793 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:29.199 but like it's Fuji motives versus a tournament arc where it's like, yeah, 794 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.079 some of the ship that happens in that. If there's one takeaway from this, 795 00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:36.199 it's like, dude, dollar fifty for a month, get the shown 796 00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:39.000 in jump app and just read all changes. That's what I did that. 797 00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:45.760 Yeah, I guarantee you best two bucks I'll ever spent one man. Yeah, 798 00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:50.719 there's a lesbian harem. Not to spoil anything, but if you need, 799 00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:52.800 if you got to, you gotta uh, you gotta go to a 800 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:54.000 link to a different thing to read it. You can't read it on the 801 00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:59.400 Show and Jump app. Yeah, there's one chapter where it's desktop only. 802 00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:01.480 Yeah, you have to go to the desktop because they're like, we're not 803 00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:04.880 allowed to put this on the app. Yeah, I thought, because yeah, 804 00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:07.960 so that's why I don't know if you know what Done Dotted on is, 805 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:12.920 Well, it's another manga, but you I can't. It's it's very 806 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.880 explicit, yeah, but not in like a Hen's Highway, but it's just 807 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:20.039 but just enough where the censors are like, I legally, yeah, you 808 00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.360 cannot read it on the Show and Jump app, So I have to read 809 00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:27.079 it on desktop, which is crazy. But yeah, there's one chapter in 810 00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:29.079 Chainsaw Man where you have to read desktop. I was like, oh, 811 00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:31.239 did they do like a like a high reds full color version and the like 812 00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:35.400 we want you to see it in this full glory one page? Yeah, 813 00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:39.639 that one that one. Okay, this is why I can't read. It's 814 00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:42.719 like I'm on the plane and I'm like, I want to read this. 815 00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:45.519 I don't care, like I'll watch HANDSI on an airplane, don't give a 816 00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:52.119 shit. Wow. Yeah, but yeah I was. I read Chainsawman like 817 00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:54.760 on airplane too, and like on my laptop, full screen, full brightness, 818 00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:59.599 I don't go fuck, it's incredible, man Like, Yeah, definitely 819 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:02.239 that, and like Free Rent is also which is like complete opposite of that 820 00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:08.280 where it's very charming. Uh yeah, I would highly recommend Free Ran after 821 00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:13.400 Chainsaw Man. I think it's like a good what's the what's the word, 822 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:19.360 like the palate cleanser, because like Chainsawman's so fucking violent, sure that, 823 00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.239 uh like in a good way. And then Free Rent is a lot more 824 00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.119 calm and a lot more like taking in the sights because there's some of the 825 00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:29.880 most beautiful background work I've ever seen in Amanca and in Free Rean. But 826 00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:34.639 yeah, and then like Dungeon Meshi is like yo, d like just it's 827 00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.719 such a perfect palate cleanser or not palate cleanser. It is like a perfect 828 00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.719 companion to having just like played through Bowler's Gate because yeah, because of how 829 00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:45.199 much it like plays off of like the kind of d and d tropes. 830 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.440 But then do you like the way it like breaks down the ecology of like 831 00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.000 these monsters and like, oh, like how would you cut up you know, 832 00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:57.440 like a suit of armor and eat it like a clam or whatever? 833 00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:02.599 Like what the like? Who that creator was like on some next level stuff? 834 00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:08.280 Also apparently apparently she like put the mongo on hold to I think? 835 00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:13.079 Is queen ship fair? Yeah, no one can get mad. She did 836 00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:15.960 come back with some wild ideas for like the next chapters, like trust me 837 00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:21.079 if you're if you have reservations at Oh, she's not making any more chapters 838 00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:23.400 because's plaining balls gate. She's gonna come back and cook. Yes, she's 839 00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:28.840 she's on. She's on like a like a like a retreat. It's come 840 00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:32.159 up with some ideas because yeah, it's yeah, Dungeon Meshi is like just 841 00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:37.760 it's very wholesome and adorable and and yeah, I'm a big fan of Yeah 842 00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:42.880 that's that's a trigger joint too. Yeah, so yeah, I recommend the 843 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.960 banka as well. Is the anime? Does the anime have a is it 844 00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:50.320 to meet the cat Girl? No? Okay, do you know who she 845 00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:53.239 is? Okay, there's a cat girl in Dungeon Meshia and no one told 846 00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:57.199 me about this. Wow. I had to find out myself. And I 847 00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:00.400 saw like some fan art, let's just call it that, and I was 848 00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.760 like, oh, who's this character? And then I traced a I did 849 00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:05.960 a reverse search and I was like, oh, this is a character from 850 00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:08.760 Dungeon Meshi. Why didn't anyone tell me that there's a cat girl. I 851 00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:13.400 would have read this sooner. Yeah, I said, yeah, there's a 852 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:15.840 cat girl in it. But uh, yeah, Dungeon Meshi is really cool. 853 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:20.800 Yeah, man, manga anime Like I was like, fantasy yeah anyway. 854 00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:22.719 And the whole reason we brought this up was because a metaphor yeah anyway, 855 00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:27.599 which I am excited to see, Like okay, like what's like a 856 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:32.679 big budget like fantasy anime made from the Persona team, Like I mean they 857 00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:37.039 got the style down for sure, like just looking at it, absolutely and 858 00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:39.800 it was funny. Like I still wasn't sure like exactly what the game was 859 00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:42.280 going to be like, and I was like, oh, it won't be 860 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.320 like not quite Persona. But then I was watching a trailer and it has 861 00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:49.599 like calendar day, it has like people hanging out and did a little like 862 00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:54.199 dude, lot and I'm like, wait, is this but fantasy like that? 863 00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:59.760 Okay? Okay, Like I like something that was familiar, familiar enough, 864 00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:01.639 familiar enough, but then twists on it and yeah and like one of 865 00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:07.079 the party members reminds me of Chadori from Persona three and oh sure, yeah, 866 00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:08.719 Hulkenberg, I'm interested to see. Yeah, it's the year of the 867 00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:15.880 elf Girl. Okay, yeah, free ran Marcio from Dungeon Mashi and then 868 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:19.679 Hulgenberg and metaphor who else is out there? Let me know, you're the 869 00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:22.039 elf girl. I'm get down with that. You're the elf girl. You 870 00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:24.039 know what I'm saying. Are there any No, there's no elf girls in 871 00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:29.800 Rebirth? No. No, there's Mugles, though sadly not. Yeah. 872 00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:35.639 The Moogles in seven remake and Rebirth freak me out. I say something about 873 00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:37.760 of them. I don't like it. It's weird. Why did you see 874 00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:42.800 that? Sorry? No, I don't fuck with them. It's yeah, 875 00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:46.360 I don't get it, especially because like sixteens mougle looked fine. Yeah sixteens 876 00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:49.800 like straight from like the fourteen Mogle Yeah, and I was like, yeah, 877 00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:52.400 I changed that. Yeah, they nailed that design like twenty plus years 878 00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:54.719 ago. Why would you why would you change it? Yeah? And also 879 00:56:55.119 --> 00:57:00.519 the because they don't talk. They don't speak, like they make Google noises 880 00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:05.119 and they have dialogue and like, oh it's cute. Yeah, like that 881 00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:10.400 that's what the Googles in in seven rebuild. They talk, they talk like 882 00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:13.679 they say things, and you're like, that's not right. I'm like, 883 00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:16.840 no, they technically did talk in the original game, like you know, 884 00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:21.519 well the original game wasn't voice though, but exactly. But so it's like 885 00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:25.039 it's like but like hearing them talk, it's like that's the difference because it's 886 00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.840 yeah, because it's like you're like, well, okay, they talked in 887 00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:30.119 the original game, but you didn't hear it. So I guess it makes 888 00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:31.320 sense that they're like, well, we're gonna make them actually talk because like 889 00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:35.639 they did talk, yeah, but in sixteen, but then make Google noise 890 00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:37.559 and they say things, and Clive is just like, oh, I guess 891 00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:40.559 I understand Google talk right, funny should have done it. Yeah, So 892 00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:44.000 yeah, weird choice, like, oh, clouds could have been like, 893 00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:47.599 yo, the Maco Maco infusion is hitting different. Now understand how Google's talk. 894 00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:55.719 That is the thing I'm I'm the most I'm most curious about in uh 895 00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:02.400 rebirth. Rebirth is how I'm gonna feel about it compared to sixteen, Oh, 896 00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:07.519 because like sixteen was there are things I like about sixteen. There are 897 00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:10.360 things I don't like about sixteen, but I think kind of like fundamentally sixteen 898 00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:15.320 was trying to chart its own path and kind of it's like tone and you 899 00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:19.159 know, like a lot of people complain about being less an RPG, where 900 00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.360 from what I've seen of what they've shown of seven Rebirth, I'm like, 901 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:25.360 oh, that is a final Fantasy, ass Final Fantasy, And it's like 902 00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:30.800 interesting to see like they had the game that was, you know, more 903 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:34.920 experimental in what Final Fantasy could be, and then like this is like almost 904 00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:38.000 the crowd pleaser of like A but don't worry, like we still still remember 905 00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:42.360 we still got that that Final Fantasy. So I'm kind of curious. I 906 00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:46.559 almost feel like Square is going to be looking at like the overall reception and 907 00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:50.159 sales of the two, even though it's like, I don't know, it's 908 00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:52.639 it's sure. I think it's hard to compare because like, well, okay, 909 00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:54.199 well one is like a remake of seven, which is one of the 910 00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:58.119 most bloved games of all time, you know, but I don't know, 911 00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:02.079 it's it's I almost feel like we're we're like we're on like the tip of 912 00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:07.039 like where Final Fantasy could go next. Yeah, yeah, if that makes 913 00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:12.320 sense. Yeah, wait till Dontreil comes in the summertime, let me tell 914 00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:15.239 you about peak Final Fantasy. But no, Yeah, to bring all back 915 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:20.679 to rebirth, you'all find out soon more. That game comes out this month. 916 00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:24.239 Dude, that's crazy, but yeah, that is. It is one 917 00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:28.360 of the games, Like, okay, that's that one of the one of 918 00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:31.480 the games of the year. Yeah, that end and metaphor like the two 919 00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:37.239 front runners to de throne that should possibly de throne Persona three Reload. They 920 00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:40.960 have a chance. But as I said yesterday or I said on the BombCast 921 00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:47.719 re Vengeance, that Persona three Reload is probably my favorite game of all time, 922 00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:51.239 So it's gonna kind of that's kind of a block at that point. 923 00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:53.239 Yeah, you would have to be my next favorite game of all time to 924 00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:58.960 even broach being my game of the year this year. So that's a wrap 925 00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:01.760 on that I didn't even think of when it's coming out. I mean, 926 01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:05.840 very different game, but I am excited about. It's like Stalker two. 927 01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:10.639 Probably like Stalker two because like, dude, I love I love Stalker Metro. 928 01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:16.000 There's a lot of DNA both development wise, yeah, style like like 929 01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:20.920 I'm really rooting for that game to be something special. Same. I fucking 930 01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:23.480 love Stalker, man. I felt like I feel like after because Stocker K 931 01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:25.760 they had a shadow Chernobyl, which is the first game, and then they 932 01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:31.599 had two expansions after that. It was a call it Pripriat and Clear Sky. 933 01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:37.519 Clear Sky was fine, but it didn't it felt like, oh, 934 01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:40.880 this is the end of Stalker, like we're never going to like revisit this 935 01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:45.280 in a way. Yeah, And that was like two thousand and thirteen twelve. 936 01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:50.880 That because a shadow Chernobyl came out in two thousand and seven. Yeah, 937 01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:53.639 I think Calid Pripiot was two thousand and nine and twenty ten was Clear 938 01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:57.559 Sky. I think. So it's been fourteen years since we have anything from 939 01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.920 Stalker, and like Stocker two has always been this thing that has been referenced 940 01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:05.199 and then it was announced like four years ago. Holy shit, we're gonna 941 01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:08.280 revisit Stalker and it's actually gonna come out this year, it seems. But 942 01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:13.800 yeah, Stocker is really special where it's like I love like Eastern European kind 943 01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:16.639 of poist apocalyptic type shit. Obviously you mentioned Metro Metro is like one of 944 01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:22.199 my favorite series, but something special about Stoker because of how complex that world 945 01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:28.039 and its systems are and how like unforgiving that world is. Absolutely that game 946 01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:31.320 is like extremely unforgiving in some good ways, some bad way, very some 947 01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:35.599 very and the janky ways is what I'm hoping they aren't now with two, 948 01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:37.880 which seems to be the case, like from what they've shown, like you 949 01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:43.119 know, but yeah, like I think there's something about the yeah, like 950 01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:47.840 the kind of storytelling that Stalker tells that still feels like extremely unique and like 951 01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:53.440 you can only get from you know, developers from that that side of the 952 01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:57.239 world. Like I don't think an American studio could ever make something like Stocker. 953 01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:00.159 They just don't have that like cultural perspective. Oh yeah, there's hell 954 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:01.679 that kind of story. Yeah, you see it a lot in Metro too, 955 01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:06.039 Like oh totally yeah. Like the there's something about like the Eastern European 956 01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:13.079 storytelling that is very like dark and oppressive. But I think after Metro Exodus, 957 01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:15.519 there's like an element of like, well, Metro always had like this 958 01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:20.880 element of hopefulness that is embedded into how like fucked up that world? Yeah, 959 01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:24.599 is that is like very unique that like Metro Exit. Yeah, Metro 960 01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:31.199 Exodus in particular was like yeah, I love Metro Exodus for Yeah, not 961 01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:34.920 to get to like well spoilers, this game came out like how long ago, 962 01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:37.639 but it reminded me of how a lot of RPGs make me feel, 963 01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:43.280 where it felt like a complete, like full arc of a story instead of 964 01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:47.360 something that was dark and depressing for the sake of being dark and depressing. 965 01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:52.119 Yeah. So yes, stalk or two Man, that's I can't believe that's 966 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.079 gonna come out, I know, right, Yeah, they gave a release 967 01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:59.440 date. Yeah. So, like Xbox has a lot of things lined up 968 01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:00.280 for this year, I think this could really be their year. You know, 969 01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:05.360 Tim Dog might be happy. Yeah, honestly, I think Tim Dog 970 01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:08.159 should be excited because like a vout is coming this year. Hell Blay too, 971 01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:14.239 Well, I'm really excited for help Will Potter's Hill Blade toon, Yes, 972 01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:16.760 Will Potter's Hip Blade too, Like Matt Rory's Alpha Protocol, we have 973 01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:24.760 Will Potter's Yeah, Jake Decker's avout. Yeah, it's it's it's really funny, 974 01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:28.719 like they have a lot of bangers this year, or hopefully a lot 975 01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:30.960 of bangers this year, and I think under the raidar. Maybe Stocker two 976 01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:34.360 might be under the radar, but I would encourage people to check that out 977 01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.440 because like Stalker is very special. Oh yeah yeah, and hope this game 978 01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:40.679 kind of channels a lot of the same energy me too. Yeah, man, 979 01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:45.000 that'll be up there for sure. In my most that is one of 980 01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:49.239 my most anticipated games for a very like ever since it was officially announced. 981 01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:52.440 Yeah, I'm like Stalker two when please so seriously, Yeah, it's been 982 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:54.599 one of those games. I'm also like I believe it when I see it. 983 01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:59.039 Yeahs too, that's like I don't want to get excited, Yeah, 984 01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:02.559 because that that the Stalker series, That brand has been like through some tumultuous 985 01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:06.840 shit with like it's original developers and like the rights from like for like GSE 986 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.000 Game World, the developers, Like yeah, they had like a I can't 987 01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.159 remember exactly, I did an article one of like years ago, but it 988 01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:15.920 was like there's like a lot of a struggle, like Holt to retain the 989 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.639 Stoker brand. People stealing code are being accused of stealing. There was wild. 990 01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:21.119 It was like there's like a version of stock or two from years ago 991 01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:26.440 that just does not exist anymore. That's crazy. So shit man, yeah 992 01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:30.880 man, uh well shit, I mean that's what you've been playing that stuff. 993 01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:32.480 But we've been going for a bit. Yeah. I had some other 994 01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:34.880 stuff I was gonna talk about, but no, no, no, no, 995 01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:36.960 no, it's like it's not even like I don't know. I was 996 01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:42.239 playing like I've been playing a hotel dusk. Yeah, I saw that, 997 01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:45.719 which, uh it was the weirdest thing because okay, dude, I was 998 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:49.760 like it was like last week. It was eleven o'clock at night, and 999 01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:55.360 I just like got up and I can and I had what I can only 1000 01:04:55.440 --> 01:05:00.039 describe as like an insatiable urge to play a DS game. Okay that makes 1001 01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:04.079 sense, Like I just got It's like the spirit of Curtain Divina like took 1002 01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:06.519 over my body and I was like, I have to get a DS. 1003 01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.840 Kurt was inside you, yeah, and I already had a DS, but 1004 01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:12.800 I was like, I have to I need to play a game on this 1005 01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:15.000 And I was like hotels fucking shot up in the middle of the night, 1006 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:21.360 like a scared Georgia breaks right away. Oh. So I went to our 1007 01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:28.079 our local uh local game stories shout out to the Experience Share and almeh yeah, 1008 01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:31.679 and uh they they had a copy of a Hotel Doest with the box 1009 01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:35.559 and the manual and I was pay it was it was like thirty five, 1010 01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:40.079 no way, it was pretty good. So so originally they had a I 1011 01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:44.840 found just a you know, car only and it was like seventeen eighteen. 1012 01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:45.880 I was like, okay, well good with that's fine. And I saw 1013 01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:47.840 the other one for like thirty five and I was like, not that. 1014 01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:53.079 I I kind of manual. So I only started it. So I'm not 1015 01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:56.760 that deep, but like already I'm like, oh, I'm mean you understand 1016 01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:00.519 Kurt now, I mean I already understood that. I definitely under stan kurtin 1017 01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:03.280 out too, playing that ship like a booklet. Yeah yeah, and just 1018 01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:10.119 like the little all the little aesthetics and like that's a Kurt core game, 1019 01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:14.119 Kurt core game, and I'm excited to get into it. So I played 1020 01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:15.880 that. I played. Uh. I also played like Mario three d Land. 1021 01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:18.239 I don't know. I was just looking for like a random to play. 1022 01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:20.199 I don't know, I don't know what's going on with me? I 1023 01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:24.840 just decided to play like I was really rad fucking sick. I think that 1024 01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:26.840 was the thing. I think I was just like, man, I missed 1025 01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:31.480 the D pill. I got DS pilled again again for the third time. 1026 01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:35.599 Yeah, man, DS is like special man like those those are a lot 1027 01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:41.360 of those games just also timeless. I think one of my homies Eric again, 1028 01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:44.679 Eric van Allen, has been playing Radiant History of Perfect Chronology and like 1029 01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:47.159 Radio Storia. Man, I feel like that's been so overlooked in terms of 1030 01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:53.239 RPGs, like, oh, sure, great Japanese RPGs. Man, like 1031 01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:58.239 Radio Historia, I would love to see like a game not remake, but 1032 01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:05.559 I mean they Alice put out the the the etran Odyssey collection, and that's 1033 01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:09.760 a that's a game that is so embedded in being dual screen, and they 1034 01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:13.280 made it work for the most part. So I feel like they can like 1035 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:17.000 dip into I think Alliance Alive. Did that ever get a switch port? 1036 01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:21.079 I don't know if it did, maybe, but that was another I remember 1037 01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:25.960 that I remember that one. Yeah, Alliance Alive and Radiant Historia are like 1038 01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:29.960 very good RPGs. Yeah. I think I've talked about this before but I 1039 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.880 definitely feel like we have by losing the DS and the three DS and like 1040 01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:41.320 handheld games, We've like we lost this like wave of these like kind of 1041 01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:46.360 smaller scale experimental like you know, RPGs and stuff that like we're being made 1042 01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:48.840 on those systems. I feel like they don't have a home anymore. And 1043 01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:54.039 I'm just like, man, I really like I didn't appreciate that stuff when 1044 01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:56.079 we had, and I feel like now that it's gone, I'm sitting there 1045 01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:59.159 and be like, man, like I need that stuff back, Yeah, 1046 01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:03.079 come back, please promise. It feel like games nowadays have to be they 1047 01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:08.360 have to be big, they have to be ambitious in a way that is, 1048 01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:12.840 and also crowd pleasers. Yeah yeah sure. And back then it's kind 1049 01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:15.800 of like, I don't know, we're gonna fucking do like a grid based 1050 01:08:15.479 --> 01:08:19.920 RBG whatever that is almost reminds you of Golden Son in a way. That's 1051 01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:23.479 what rating his Storio is kind of like, So, I don't know, 1052 01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:30.079 DS man funk all these other games, the DS, Yeah, DS, 1053 01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:33.199 I don't know, re Rebirth of the DS, I don't know. You 1054 01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:38.960 could play what no, no, no, no, I'll say, is 1055 01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:42.760 there a Final Fantasy game on ds. Oh yeah, I think they remade 1056 01:08:43.159 --> 01:08:45.119 this. Oh what about they did like all of like one, two, 1057 01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:47.840 three, four. Yeah, they did a bunch of them. Yeah, 1058 01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:50.520 they did a bunch of They did one through four with the three D graphics. 1059 01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:54.960 Yeah, so we can play those instead of Rebirth. I don't know, 1060 01:08:56.239 --> 01:09:00.640 play and Q two again because he yeah, my god, d the 1061 01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:03.479 little so off topic, but the did you catch that? They put a 1062 01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:09.119 bunch of like different Persona music's in reload, like as a little easter eggs 1063 01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:14.479 when you're doing the film festival and you're watching all the movies, they're playing 1064 01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:18.079 different tracks and they play use a popcorn or is it corn dog from US? 1065 01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:23.760 Yeah, they use cornd Door from Persona Q. They used Chia's theme, 1066 01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:29.680 which is like the dragons from from the Arena yea, and that's why 1067 01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:34.000 they used Lisa's theme from Persona two one of that. Catch that? And 1068 01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:39.279 uh, when you do the crane game in front of arcade, it plays 1069 01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:45.000 the Stomi Tatashi pharmacy from Persona one of that And I was like, this 1070 01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:50.439 game is wow, yeah, really excited. It's like a hardcore Persona fan. 1071 01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:56.800 Oh game of the Year, Game of the Year. I'm gonna Octopath 1072 01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:05.079 Traveler to that ship instead, I was gonna call I'm calling back. I 1073 01:10:05.159 --> 01:10:08.479 believe. I don't think you'll have to try as hard. Yeah, I 1074 01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:11.680 got back. I think you'll have more and more of a back. Yes, 1075 01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:13.600 ok, them Hath. It was a bit of an uphill battle that 1076 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:17.119 I won won. But Persona three is my next target. I'm not gonna 1077 01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:20.119 like I'm still gonna be a freelancer some shit. I'm gonna be like fucking 1078 01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:23.840 I don't know, like a banker on Wall Street or something. I'm gonna 1079 01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:27.279 come back and be like bringing back for a game of your discussions because I 1080 01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:30.119 have some shit to take care of. Y'all stay tuned for that. Yeah, 1081 01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:34.479 stay tuned for that, and stay tuned for hopefully our spoiler casts for 1082 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:39.479 both those Persona and Infinite Wealth. We'll make it happen. And I imagine 1083 01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:42.600 at some point y'all would want to do a rebirth one as well. Uh 1084 01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:45.239 oh definitely, yeah, Yeah, we'll definitely want to do a rebirth one 1085 01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:51.159 when that comes out. Good miss. It is wild with video games right 1086 01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:57.520 now. Man, it feels like twenty twenty three all over again. Yeah, 1087 01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:00.279 you're ready for dragging dragons Dogma two. Actually, yeah, I'm I 1088 01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:04.359 never played the first one, but I I'm like, I want to. 1089 01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:06.159 I want to see what it's all about. You want to see you on 1090 01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:11.119 another eighty hour. Yeah, everyone's talking about their ponds or something. I'm 1091 01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:15.239 like, what's going on. I need to climbing on climbing on dragons or 1092 01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:16.880 something. I don't know, it seems cool. I'm excited for it. 1093 01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:20.800 Uh, but uh yeah, I think we'll have to, uh, you 1094 01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:25.159 know, see what see what the deal is, uh when those games come 1095 01:11:25.199 --> 01:11:30.119 out in the future. So I guess Michael, thank you for for hanging 1096 01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:31.880 out with me. Always a pleasure. I like these one on ones we 1097 01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:33.800 do me too. I think they're fun. Yeah, this is this is 1098 01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:40.039 the best ship you Jake my ass. I'm just kidding. I hope you're 1099 01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:45.119 okay, man, all right, everybody after you're dark. Shouts out to 1100 01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:48.600 Jake Decker. Shout out to Jake Decker. Uh, this has been your 1101 01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:53.199 weekly video game podcast. Thanks for tuning in, and we'll see you wall 1102 01:11:53.359 --> 01:12:15.239 and next time. Bum bum