WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.120 --> 00:00:05.679 Dreamy Live, I mean my heart radio whip. This is High on the 2 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:13.480 Ball with Steve Rivera and Jaken Zalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. They welcome 3 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:16.399 back to win the boat here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, 4 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:22.399 you're jakens Os. You know you have the breaking news hopefully this is 5 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:28.079 high on the ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. All right, 6 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.760 if they said just the spread of stuff right, nothing super earth shadowing, 7 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:36.679 all the earth shattering, although the couple of a couple of things um big. 8 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:39.920 Another big trade day, Chris Paul is on the move again. Uh. 9 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:46.320 He was traded to the Golden State Warrior Warriors to join Steph Curry over. 10 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:51.719 He was traded for Jordan Pool, who is the guy who um um 11 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:57.560 Draymond Green punched before the before the season started last year. And in the 12 00:00:57.679 --> 00:00:59.840 end a lot of people said that that had a lot to do with why 13 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:03.359 Golden State didn't do any better than they did, just attention from all of 14 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:07.040 that. So Jordan Pool heading over to the Wizards and Chris Paul over the 15 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:11.599 Golden State. I don't know how that's gonna work, but but I'm sure 16 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:15.120 that the Golden State Warriors would be better, well if Chris Paul. I 17 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:17.640 think it's one of those things that if Chris Paul is willing to accept a 18 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:21.840 role, right Steph Curry's the point if Chris Paul is like, Okay, 19 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:23.599 i'm i'm, i'll, i'll i'll, I'll fill in for him, you 20 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.439 know, when he's on when he's on the bench, and i'll you know, 21 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.640 compliment him on the side as opposed to trying to be the guy. 22 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:34.079 If he understands that, then, you know, because Chris Paul is still 23 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:37.040 a good player, and if he doesn't have to play all the minutes, 24 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:42.120 durability might might uh you know, might be better as well. But yeah, 25 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:47.799 so Chris Paul heading over to uh uh uh the Wizards. Funny thing 26 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:53.239 though, so um um. The Athletic posted a press conference when when when 27 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:57.799 Mike Dunleavy was hired as the uh the Warriors GM. In the press conference, 28 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.400 he said, we're planning on having Jordan's pool here for four more years 29 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:05.719 at least. And as this was posted, you know, this happened just 30 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:10.120 a few weeks agoing out he's already gone. So Jordan Poole out and Chris 31 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:14.879 Paul who started the week and UH and was at this time last week was 32 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:20.000 in Phoenix. Now he's not headed from the Wizards over to UM over to 33 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:23.280 UH Golden State. How he found out about that he had been traded that 34 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:28.120 his son, His son texted him while he was on the plane headed somewhere. 35 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:30.879 So so there's that. UM we talked about this just a little bit 36 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:40.680 um. The ia ARP ruling on which is the Independent Accountability Resolution Process, 37 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:46.319 which is the body that ruled on Arizona's stuff coming out of the FBI investigation, 38 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:51.520 ruled on LSU today. Their former coach, Will Wade got a ten 39 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:54.159 game suspension and then a two year show cause, which I don't know what 40 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:59.759 exactly that means, but it just puts some limits on his recruiting and what 41 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:02.919 not. So he's at mcnee's state now, so he's gonna have a ten 42 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:08.280 game suspension to start to start the season at mcnee's state. But if this 43 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:15.639 didn't bury LSU or they literally have him on tape talking about buying a player, 44 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:20.240 that Kansas is going to get a slap in the wrist. Yeah, 45 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:24.240 that wouldn't be a surprise as well. But Dan Walk and our our Buddy 46 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:30.400 Um wrote it has a long column again on USA Today and just has the 47 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.800 one paragraph that he said, Uh let me, let me fine. He 48 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:37.960 says, once the ia ARP rules on Kansas and based on President President, 49 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:43.240 we shouldn't expect much actual accountability from the accountability folks. They will be shut 50 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:46.319 down and remembered as the biggest waste of time and money in pretty much three 51 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:52.120 of Ncuba a government pretty much pretty much. Look at all the worrying and 52 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:57.879 all the hand ringing here in this town. Yeah, in this town just 53 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:00.840 just turn out to be a big, as they say, a big nothing 54 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:04.000 burger. So that's so, that's that's what they're kind of, you know, 55 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:10.080 big news. Hey, did you know that they change the way we 56 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.879 vote for the All Star Game? Now have you ever heard? There's the 57 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:16.000 first time I've seen this. So there's there's two phases of voting. So 58 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.480 everybody votes for whoever they want, right, and so what they come up 59 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:27.199 with its two finalists at each position, four finalists at like an outfield, 60 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:30.480 and the top two. Now you vote again for one of these two finals 61 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:36.160 Yeah yeah, so so um and then the two in this initial vote in 62 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:43.360 the two top overall vote getters are named starters. So showey Otani on the 63 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:46.959 American League side, Ronald Lacuney on the National League side. We'll start no 64 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:51.160 matter what happens in this uh, in this UH balloting, but it's it's 65 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:58.519 kind of weird. So now between now and June twenty ninth, UM, 66 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:01.759 now you go vote for the there's two finalists at each position. UH. 67 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:05.000 And and so there's you know, and that and that's where it worked. 68 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:09.839 So UH. On the on the American League side, for instance, UM, 69 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:14.240 there's two catchers, Adlee Rushman of the Orioles Jonaheim of the Rangers. 70 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:15.519 You've a phone two, I think, and I guess the idea is to 71 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:18.959 you know, now you got to to you know, two the best guys 72 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:25.399 allegedly get the most. Now let's everybody pick between those two guys. I 73 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:28.519 don't really know. I didn't know this was happening, so I haven't had 74 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:31.839 a chance to go back and uh and see when or why they did this. 75 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:36.000 But like Vladgarrow Junior Yandy Diaz of the Rays all right first base for 76 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:40.959 the American League, Marcus Simion of the Rangers, with Mary Field of the 77 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:44.120 Blue Jays for second base, and and on and on and on. UM 78 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:46.959 in the National League, my favorite Will Smith is one of my favorite players, 79 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:50.199 if not my favorite player with the Dodgers right now the catcher, he's 80 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:55.000 up against Sean Murphy from the Brave, Freddie Freeman of the Dodgers, Matt 81 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:58.480 Olson of the Braves at first base. Um. In the outfield, you've 82 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:02.680 got um, Mookie Bats, Carbyn Carroll, Lord of Discordille from the d 83 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:06.160 Backs, and Michael Harris and the Braves. You get to pick three of 84 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:10.120 those. You know, one of those guys won't be won't be a starter. 85 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:12.920 So it's just it's it's crazy that that it's done that way. But 86 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:15.160 you can start voting for them today now and uh, you pick one of 87 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:18.800 those two guys at each position. So interesting, all right, UM, 88 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:24.600 kind of a a little of a I don't know if it's a sad story 89 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:29.480 yet, but Kurkkurbstreet reporting that his son was a tight end for a stake, 90 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:31.439 but it's having some heart issues. He'd been on tweeting a lot. 91 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:34.680 Unless Yeah, so he's out, he's but he's home from the hospital. 92 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:38.600 But they're trying to figure out what, you know, what all this is. 93 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.639 He's on medication. Um, they've not even addressed whether or not. 94 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:46.040 Um, you know you'll you'll be able to continue playing football or not. 95 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:48.079 But he's got some kind of a hard issue. It's zach herb Street. 96 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:53.800 Who's who's you know going home? And you know he's he's been with a 97 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:59.279 high States as see what happens there. Kind of a tough deal. Um, 98 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:03.759 let's see, Oh, Arizona's got a new assistant golf coach, Matt 99 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:10.079 Walton joining Arizona from see where he's been. I was gonna look it up 100 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:13.439 to see where's been and then it got pass me. Um he's been at 101 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:18.439 USC. Uh. Yeah, he's been three seasons that assistant to USC's now 102 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:24.240 he's now coming to Tucson to coach for Jim Anderson. Um he's from Uh, 103 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:30.480 he's from England. He went to the University of Cumberland's in England and 104 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.600 he's kind of a young guy. He agreed ten years out of college. 105 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:39.879 So there you go. So Matt Matt Walton as a new assistant coach at 106 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:45.040 at Arizon at Arizona, Oh, Arizona football got a kicker out of the 107 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:48.600 Stars reportal the kid kid out of BYU got by the name of Cash Peterman. 108 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:53.560 He's from Chandler. Uh, he's got three years of eligibility to remaining. 109 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:57.560 And so they've got a new a new kicker in camp and so I 110 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:00.519 don't expect we'll see him this because I think they've got a recurring kicker form 111 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:07.319 last year. But cash Cash Peterman sounds more like a tight end than a 112 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:11.160 schoolper's name. Though, great name, it's a great name. Um, 113 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:13.879 Deon Sanders, man, have you been reading this stuff? Surgery they've got 114 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:18.560 they found blood clots in his legs. Um, he's gonna have some surgery 115 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.360 too, in both legs. He's gonna have some surgery. One of those 116 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.279 one of those legs has a His foot is a mess, and he's lost 117 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:31.439 a couple of toes on that foot and they're trying to avoid amputating the whole 118 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.799 foot. But god, you know, who knows what this means health wise, 119 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:37.279 how much he's able to, you know, do the work that he's 120 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.639 got to do in his first year at Colorado. But Deon Sanders having some 121 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:46.080 he's having some health issues. M and he's already kind of hobbling. What 122 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:48.919 kind of he is horbling? Yeah? Um, I thought it was something 123 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.559 else. But yeah, yeah, it's not gonna look good. Nothing looking 124 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:56.240 good. Nah, that looks it looks really scary and really really scary. 125 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:03.559 Um okay, um, I have one Okay, Kioto Pinder will be with 126 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:09.919 the Suns. Oh yeah, saw that he had a good a good time 127 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:11.759 in Australia where he's from. All we're talking about basketball, Okay. I 128 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.120 mentioned this to you on off off air. In the last couple of days, 129 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:22.200 I've seen Victor Webbon Yama. Let's seven foot three, seven foot four 130 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.399 and seven foot five. I'm like, okay, I get it. I 131 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:28.639 get that he's tall, but we can't narrow it down to less than, 132 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.360 you know, within a couple of inches. I mean, how tall is 133 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.120 he? Which one have you seen? More? You know, seven four? 134 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:39.639 I think seven four? But seven four, seven three seven? What 135 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:41.799 the hell? Once it's one hundred and ten degrees, it's it's one hundred 136 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:45.919 and ten degrees, whether it's one hundred nine hundred and eight, yeah, 137 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:48.879 they say we're not gonna know. We're not gonna know for sure. Um 138 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.360 uh, you know, until he goes to camp and they actually do a 139 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:56.120 measurement. But I don't know what he is, all right, Um, 140 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:00.919 here's an interesting one because this came up. This came up, and when 141 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:05.440 the liv golf thing with the PGA, with the with the Saudi's you know, 142 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.159 buying into the PJA and stuff like that, is a quatar or a 143 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:15.440 cutter I think it's actually pronounced cutter. The the country right there, in 144 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:18.799 their investment authority, which is similar to the one that the Saudi's have, 145 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:24.519 is looking at buying a five percent stake of the company of the parent company 146 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.759 of the of the Wizards Capitals and the mystics of the w NBA. So 147 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:33.720 it's believed to be the first time. Um, you know, the government 148 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.320 of Qatar, I guess is investing, is looking at investing in US professional 149 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:41.879 sports. And I do know that that Um what's his name? Um? 150 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:50.840 The NBA commissioner, Yeah, h Adams said that that when when he was 151 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:56.840 asked if the Saudi Arabians through their investment authority would be able to buy an 152 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:03.080 NBA team, he said, an individual, a person. It can't be 153 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:05.960 like, you know, a fund can't buy an NBA team. It has 154 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.840 to be you know, an individual who's got you know, then an individual 155 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:13.519 that runs that's it, you know, So they do they go hire somebody 156 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:18.799 to do that. But anyways, all right, Uh finally, Steve, 157 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:24.360 where are we have a sick gambling society? No? Really? Yeah? 158 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:31.480 So there's been some back and forth on social media between Elon Musk and Mark 159 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:39.399 Zuckerberg to rich people problems too rich guys about having a cage fight. Oh, 160 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:43.720 that'd be fun, and apparently odds have been posted. I would take 161 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:50.240 uh uh Zuckerberg and the other guy and elm oh Elon Musk Oh, I 162 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:54.240 thought it was the Amazon guy. Uh yeah, but a basis isn't shape 163 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:56.919 which I would have taken. I would have taken be taken Beazil. Yeah, 164 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:01.080 and then he's a day what's her name? Uh, sanitez gro Um. 165 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:05.679 I'm taking the Zuckerberg. Okay, Zuckerberg is minus one six, he's 166 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.120 the favorite. He's the favor. I would take that one. And Musk 167 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:13.440 is plus one for yeah, I'm not sure he's yeah. Why why would 168 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.399 you watch that? No? No, but I watched the Twitter highlights. 169 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.399 Could be very quick. I kind of like to see these guys just beat 170 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.240 the hell out of each other, right right, No winner in the draw, 171 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:30.559 let's put him in a sup No, that was me. I'm sorry, 172 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.039 you're going to hell, you know what, maybe even tonight, maybe 173 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:41.840 tonight. But anyway, so there's the odds aren't official, they're just Draft 174 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.919 Kings has has quoted some odds and you can't go on Draft Kings and sure, 175 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.399 but as they say, there are for conversational or informational purposes only. 176 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.360 Okay, are you done? So let me I was just going to the 177 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:58.120 NBA Draft getting ready for tonight, which I you know, no reason to 178 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.840 uh. She in the last ten years, Solomon Hill, right, yeah, 179 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:03.480 I think I don't know if he's still in the league. I don't 180 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:07.600 if he made me twenty three, Aaron Gordon, we talked about him. 181 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:13.240 Stanley Johnson still, Ronde Hillis, Jefferson, uh Lorie Marketing, Dean john 182 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:18.159 Eden, Josh Green, Zeke Nagy right of the last few now, Ben 183 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:24.000 Mathurin and I think that's about and uh and uh India the guard. Yeah 184 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:24.879 yeah, yeah, he wasn't drafted. But yeah, that guy, he 185 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.240 didn't get drafted. No, um no, no, this is our first 186 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.240 round picks, first round picks. Ok So so all those run Day who 187 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:35.720 was just drafted eight years ago has been at the league for for a few 188 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:39.320 years. Yeah, yeah, so you know he didn't last long. You 189 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.200 gotta score in that league, you know, as much as you defend, 190 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:45.960 right, yeah, I mean every time about while he's a great defender. 191 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:48.840 Well, yeah, you gotta score. You gotta be on the board. 192 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.840 And that's why you know, Aaron Gordon has begun to do that, and 193 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:54.679 that's why he is stock is rising, you know, quite a bit as 194 00:13:54.679 --> 00:14:01.039 a possible NBA all started out. Yeah, so no, gotta you gotta 195 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.679 put the ball in the hole, man, And and if you don't, 196 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:07.480 they'll find somebody else who can do what you do and score without question. 197 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:13.120 Right, But I was looking at a story by uh Was or by Bruce 198 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.799 Pasco. No, if Arizona doesn't get anybody drafted, which it's unlikely with 199 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:20.679 the zoolosno, probably I can get drafted. 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This is usually this is our slow time, Junior, 268 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:34.960 usually the most downtime I have before things are cranking up in July with 269 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:40.599 football ramping up? Do you dare take some time off for you know, 270 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:44.400 not knowing if this thing's gonna happen any day or what you do, it 271 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:48.119 will, right. It's like if you go away from your phone or from 272 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.680 your laptop for a couple hours, that's immediately when something goes goes on, 273 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:55.920 right, Right, So, how how's it gone? And what's the latest? 274 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:59.319 Yeah, we had this thing this last week where this letter got sent 275 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:03.640 to pre apparently in the in Mountain West replied and said, we're not cutting 276 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:07.920 you any slacker, So just what is all that? Well? I think 277 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:14.559 the deadline of June thirtieth has been looming for Santego State, and you know, 278 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:18.119 any other team in the Mountain West if they were to have an opportunity 279 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:22.039 to move out to another conference to where they would pay an exit fee. 280 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:26.400 If you'd pay it by June thirtieth, it would be approximately seventeen million. 281 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:30.519 If you waited till after that, it would be it would be double. 282 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:37.200 So Dandia State kind of reached out to find out if that deadline could be 283 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:41.640 extended and or if some of the terms could be altered a little bit to 284 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.480 benefit them, and they were told, in fact, no, there's some 285 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:48.039 talk to you know, maybe it would have been better to keep this maybe 286 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:53.279 more on the down loan, just to have a senior States president called directly 287 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:57.000 to the Mountain West Commissioner, and then it kind of went out to all 288 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:02.680 the presidents and blew up there. So I've seen online and you know, 289 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:06.319 everybody on the internet saying that San Diego State just kind of blew the whole 290 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:11.960 situation. I don't that's too extreme, isn't it. I don't know blow 291 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.960 it would would be the right way to say that. I think it could 292 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:21.559 have been done a little more discreetly, a little more, a little more 293 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:26.440 depth depth of touch. I think by you know, as long as soon 294 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:29.880 as you put something out to more and more people, obviously it's going to 295 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:33.000 get out there more easily. One is I think they shouldn't have put it 296 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:37.920 in writing and do I think they should have kept it to one on one 297 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:41.720 with the commissioner, right right. So the assumption has been for a while 298 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:47.160 that San Diego State is going somewhere and most likely the PAC twelve. You 299 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:49.400 know, from where you sit, I mean, is that is it a 300 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:55.519 foregone conclusion as far as that goes that that they are leaving in the more 301 00:21:55.559 --> 00:22:00.480 likely place is the PAC twelve. You know, I wouldn't call anything foregone 302 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:04.720 conclusion, as we've seen so many things can change. And I think the 303 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:08.759 biggest concern is with the PAC twelve. I think we've heard since last December 304 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:14.200 that their their deal, their new TV media deal is imminent, and here 305 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:18.960 we are going on eight months later and still nothing is secure. We went 306 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:23.759 from here in December to January to March to and now end of summer, 307 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:26.519 you know what's to make it so it's not the end of the year before 308 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.559 they get anything done. And with that in mind, you know, how 309 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:33.240 could Santega State think anything's just secured deal. Yeah, this might be a 310 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:38.480 silly question, but you know is it is the fan base pretty much on 311 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:41.920 board with wanting to go to the Pac twelve. Do they like where they 312 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:45.880 are? Do they want to go to the Big twelve? What's your sense 313 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:51.279 of that. I'll put it this way. My first memory of going to 314 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:56.319 a Senator State football game is with the safety patrol in sixth grade in nineteen 315 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.200 seventy two, and I think I think there was talk among ourselves then that 316 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.640 there's hope to go to the Pac eight. Then then there's the Pac ten 317 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:06.960 and the Pac twelve. So the fan base has been very charged up for 318 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:12.000 going on fifty years to move to the Pacific Conference, and they're just chomping 319 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:15.039 at the bit at every morsel of news that maybe this is going to happen. 320 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.839 And it has in fact happened, but at this point I still think 321 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:23.519 anything is speculation, right. What do you say about the fit? Just 322 00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:29.200 over the few years, the football team has comported itself very well with the 323 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:33.160 competition it's faced, and then just last year basketball has kind of fit in 324 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:37.440 very well given what they've done. So it seems like the obvious fit from 325 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:45.960 the West I think definitely basketball especially would fit well. Football has been, 326 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:51.079 as you said, competitive against Pacific teams in the last few years, but 327 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:53.559 I think there would be some challenges. I know, well, you know, 328 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:57.160 you taught a good example that's taken them better part of ten years to 329 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:00.319 be where they rose to the top and could win a championship, and I 330 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:04.079 think something would be similar for Sandega State football. But at the same time, 331 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:08.079 you know, being able to finally get a foothold with the Power five 332 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:11.240 would would be very beneficial to the program. And I think they would be 333 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:17.160 competitive. As you look forward, you know they're over here, we're you 334 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:19.240 know, we've got I don't know if it's a fifty fifty split, but 335 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:22.640 it's not far off from that of people who want to stay in the Pac 336 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.400 twelve and people who would have loved to go to the Big twelve primarily because 337 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.480 of basketball. Um, how much of a fit do you think Sandiego State 338 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:34.880 would be in the Big twelve. I think that would be a lot different. 339 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:40.200 But again, you know, is it the Big twelve that we're looking 340 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:44.000 at right now, or do they enlarge and add some more West Coast teams 341 00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:48.839 to where you might have some pods I just can't really see Santego state some 342 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:52.240 of their teams wanting to fly all the way to the East coast and compete 343 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:56.799 with some of those teams, And in that way, I think you're gonna 344 00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.319 get a little bit far flung if you went to the Big twelve. Obviously, 345 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:02.839 I think the pacif twelve is the key fit. The big thing is, 346 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:04.640 you know, we've seen so many rumors on this happening or that are 347 00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:08.839 happening that the PAC twelve state together as it's composed of difference. But let 348 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:12.920 me ask you a dumb qushion too, given that it's let's assume it happens 349 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:17.519 for a second, usile he's gone. Obviously, US he's gone. Do 350 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:22.039 you think that they would have an advantage, not a competitive advantage, but 351 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:26.480 advantage with the recruiting because if that's the only school left in the southern California 352 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:30.119 region now that they're part of the PAC twelve, PAC ten, PAC twelve, 353 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.480 that they would have it, have it good or how much of a 354 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:36.759 leap you think they can make semi because of that? Because of that? 355 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:41.440 Well, funny you bring up the recruiting aspect. I think that's been the 356 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:44.680 biggest thing that's kept sending of State out through the years since we've always heard 357 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:48.799 that UCLA and USC don't want panna State on equal footing to where they could 358 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:51.720 be retaining a lot of the players from San Diego, which is is a 359 00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:55.440 hot bed and recruiting. UM so, so I do think it's prove that 360 00:25:55.640 --> 00:26:00.079 when USC and using leaving um sing with State if it were to join the 361 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.920 PAC twelve, Uh, it recruits them I think more likely want to stay 362 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:08.400 home and and that would definitely benefit and boost the program right right makes sense 363 00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:11.920 to me? Yeah, no, it would, I mean, and certainly 364 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:14.960 that's why the PAC twelve would would love to, you know, keep them 365 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:18.599 in the you know, in the league. Um, if it's if it's 366 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:22.839 SMU or whoever it might be. Um, what are your thoughts on what 367 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:27.839 that league the I don't know, not so much image of the league, 368 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:32.400 but the competitiveness of the league compared to the other leagues. If let's say, 369 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:34.880 if it's SMU and UH and San Dieo stayed in their back at twelve 370 00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:38.559 teams, where you know, where does the PAC twelve fallow in the hierarchy 371 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:42.880 there? Do you think in your opinion? Uh, if you were to 372 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:48.240 add those two teams. Yeah, Um, I think they're right now their 373 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.799 best of the rest, and so that's kind of what you're hoping. Obviously, 374 00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:53.640 I think the Pac twelve is diminished by the two teams that it lost, 375 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.759 and I don't think anybody they can bring in would would make them whole 376 00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:00.440 again. But at this point, and I think that's that's kind of the 377 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:04.279 best thing you could probably do. And and you know, the big key 378 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:08.640 is again we've heard so many rumors about various things happening, and you know, 379 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:11.960 can they stay intact with Oregon and Washington and you know the four foreigner 380 00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:18.000 schools they say, and and there's so much it's funny for us far along 381 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.440 down the road we are. Are we any farther than we were back when 382 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:25.519 USA and Utula? And they really know exactly you know, that's a really 383 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.680 good that's a great pot Because we talked about this when we did the show 384 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.119 a year ago, right almost a year ago, and we made a bet 385 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.960 real quick and Jay said it is going to be done by August or September, 386 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:37.559 and that didn't happen. Now we're the old lady on the Titanics thing. 387 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.359 Well, it had been eighty four years since this is going to happen. 388 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:44.039 Uh, and it's not, and here we still are. UM. 389 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:45.559 I had a quick question, go ahead, Jake, But you know, 390 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:49.079 is there you think they're Do you think fans are getting tired of this? 391 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:53.119 You know, are they just like, just do this already? I'm sick 392 00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:57.039 of hearing about it. Uh you know, do they do you do fans 393 00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:00.559 lose interest over this? I mean, what are your thoughts on you know, 394 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:04.079 how fans are reacting to all of this and just how long it's taken. 395 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.279 I think there are some, definitely who are fatigued. I've seen a 396 00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:11.319 few even on chatboards saying, you know, wake me when they're finally a 397 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:15.599 decision. But at the same time, you know, I think they're willing 398 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.720 if if this does come to pass, I think they're willing to wait a 399 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:25.319 little bit extra time to have it happen. So go ahead. Well, 400 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:29.119 I was just thinking about my question. So you're in the business stuff finding 401 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:33.079 stuff out obviously in this business. Uh so do you hear anybody who doesn't 402 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:38.960 want this to happen? Yeah? Administratively from a sending state standpoint, I 403 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:44.160 think everyone wants it to happen. Here's my one thought on where this all 404 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:48.960 goes. In the last decades. You know, one of the biggest reasons 405 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.359 sending the States wanted to join the PAC twelve in addition to it's a Power 406 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.480 five conference, but it's the opportunity to play UCLA and USC and they're going 407 00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.799 to be leaving. So I've given one more thought to, well, what 408 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:06.240 does happen down the road and could the Mountain West itself be a better conference? 409 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:11.559 And there is there a possibility that maybe Santego State's better off staying where 410 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.640 it is and being the big dog on that block rather than going to the 411 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.279 Power five and really having to perhaps struggle for a few years before it gets 412 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.119 a foothold. Yeah, okay, because you know, I look at I 413 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.400 went to the San Diego State, Arizona Arizona Steak everything Steve did too beautiful 414 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.400 stadium, very you know, upscale kind of thing, and they're they're like, 415 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.319 you know, if they were to stay in the Mountain West with with 416 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.880 that advantage over most of the other schools in terms of a football program, 417 00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:44.119 You're right, they could become a or you elevate themselves way above the Mountain 418 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.640 West schools or as joining the PAC twelve. Yes, they're in a Power 419 00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:49.559 five conference, but now they're kind of like, as you said, they're 420 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:52.319 sort of starting where Utah was. You know, it took them a while 421 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.599 to get up to speed. And is it good enough just to be there? 422 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:02.480 You know? I think biggest thing is I think you're if Synator State 423 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:07.519 gets to go to the Power five, they get fans and administrators and everyone 424 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.680 else gets to puff out their chests that we're part of the Power five. 425 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.839 And I also think it makes you're scheduling better. You're gonna have some better 426 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.279 teams or more high profile teams come into play, and those are definitely big 427 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:22.400 benefits. But beyond that, I mean, are your wins and loss is 428 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.279 going to be the same. I would think it's going to be more of 429 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.480 a challenge to be as successful. And and you know, if you have 430 00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.599 a few senators State has not had a losing football season in more than a 431 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.480 decade. If you have one or two of those in the next few years, 432 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.480 you know, how much does the fan base alliss get start getting frustrated 433 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:40.599 because they're not seeing the same success. So so you don't have to answer 434 00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:42.519 this question, I'm kind of asking it in light. But I'm sure. 435 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.440 I mean, given haven't been a reporter here for twenty five years, and 436 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:52.559 J two that you already have both stories written already. If they don't go 437 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.119 or if they go, you just gotta hit a button. I wouldn't say 438 00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.519 we're at that point, but we will beady to add. In fact, 439 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:06.039 I think it's not two stories, but it's probably about twelve. Yes, 440 00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:10.000 just different versions. Yeah, I hear you. Yeah, so many different 441 00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.000 veries. I mean somebody, as you said, so many things can still 442 00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.240 happen, right. Uh, well, I'm talking one of my colleagues a 443 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.119 lot about this the last few weeks and months, and one thing he brought 444 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.119 up this weekends. He goes, what if something comes out of left field 445 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.200 the way they live and PGA Golf merger came. You know what if all 446 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.359 this sudden we see the pact, the PAC twelve and the Big twelve decide 447 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.480 we're going to merge. Who knows what could happen? No, I hear 448 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.480 you. I mean it's just as you say, and now in your mind, 449 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.000 has we see all the speculation stuff like that, But it's awesome. 450 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:47.960 It's mostly speculation. There haven't really been a ton of let's say, reliable 451 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.799 leaks of information. Right, only a few things have come out that have 452 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.880 actually been true. Everything else has been speculation. Would you agree with that 453 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.559 completely? I mean, you know, if you're really think about it, 454 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:05.640 what progress has actually been made? Yeah? Not much from the same rumors 455 00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.519 that happened at the beginning. They're still coming out and everybody knows right, 456 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:12.039 everybody's I know this, I know that. Shut up, you don't know 457 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.440 this? Well? Yeah, we keep saying that they we have to see 458 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:21.720 what the media rights is and I'm kind of like, you know, well, 459 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.200 what if you just decide what your composition or your conference is going to 460 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.839 be, because won't that be part of what determines what your media rights is 461 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:30.559 worth? Yeah? Chicken and egg thing? Right? Who? Yeah? 462 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:35.559 Which one first? Exactly exactly right? Well, again, as I said, 463 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.319 are you are you having fun with all this? Well, I mean 464 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:44.720 it's definitely. I have more fun when there's something definitive that you can kind 465 00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.599 of think your teeth into and actually write about. I haven't. We've we've 466 00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:52.119 written very few stories on this because I really am not one that likes to 467 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.359 just perpetuate speculation, you know, when there's just nothing there. Yeah, 468 00:32:55.599 --> 00:33:00.400 we're just good. We appreciate that, we really do. But uh, 469 00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:02.680 you know, I for one, you know, we are are our kind 470 00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:06.359 of way we do things here on our show. Steve's the Steve was a 471 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:07.680 writer for a hundred years. I was a sportswriter back in the day. 472 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.720 But I'm more of the fan here. I really want San Diego State in 473 00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:14.759 the Pac twelve. I really do, uh, because I'm a I'm a 474 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.039 little upset at ucln USC because we take that road trip, you know, 475 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.799 pretty much every year. So I'm looking forward to, you know, coming 476 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:22.880 to San Diego State, even if it's only every other year. Plus, 477 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:27.559 we really liked the stadium last year. Although that day was damn hot. 478 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:32.400 It's the hottest I've ever I've ever been in Southern California. We've ever been 479 00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:37.240 in southern California as well. We brought I guess we brought it with us 480 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:42.240 because that was bad man, Holy cow. Yeah, Okay, Well, 481 00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:45.200 good luck to you. Yeah, Kirk, we appreciate the appreciate the time 482 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.079 on this. I'm sure we're gonna want to touch base with you again whenever 483 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:52.599 whatever happens happened before we go this. I don't you think at the end 484 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.559 of the day, j and I'll believe this San Diego State, it's gonna 485 00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:58.599 be in Everything that we've kind of heard is gonna go that way. So 486 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:01.519 don't worry. Just get that story gone. Just write that baby, what's 487 00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:05.920 gonna happen. That's what we're saying. Just get this thing done. Well. 488 00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.280 I will say that they're there. Athletic director John David Wicker has hinted 489 00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:14.079 strongly enough that you would think it is a very very good chance. Yeah, 490 00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.159 because I don't think you would say that otherwise, and in the terms 491 00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:20.159 that he's stated it. So it's like, you know, you know, 492 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.800 once I hang up, we'll probably hear something about an hour. All right, 493 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:24.440 man, Well we'll keep an eye on you. So, hey, 494 00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.960 thanks a bunch of Kurt. We appreciate and say hi to Ryan for us. 495 00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:30.119 He's a good friend of our. Probably have you back when all this 496 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:36.960 kind of settles. Absolutely sounds good, Thank you, thank you. Um. 497 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:38.639 Yeah, we just don't know, we know, but we don't know. 498 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.519 I mean we again, you know, Kurt's you know, he's in 499 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.920 the middle of it over there and just basically hearing all the same things that 500 00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.719 we're all hearing and just waiting for somebody to pull the trigger on this thing. 501 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.360 Just think we are all right, Let's take a break, come back 502 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.079 for our last segment. To give us a call five to zero, four 503 00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:58.840 one, six, seventy four, forty and we'll talk about whatever you want 504 00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:08.800 to talk about. We'll be right back. If you're an Arizona men's basketball 505 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:13.079 fan, you know it's been successful for newly forty years. Now. Take 506 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.360 a look back at the Ludolson era in my new book, Lessons from Loot. 507 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.119 It was a labor of love through the eyes of twenty five former players, 508 00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.440 coaches, and friends to give insight to the coach and the man who 509 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.119 led them, competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for 510 00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:30.519 his twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from Loot is an insight 511 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:35.079 to how he built the program into a national powerhouse. 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Come be a part of 555 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:43.039 a winning team the A Team Apply online today at a Team security dot net. 556 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:50.599 Streaming live on the iHeart Radio whap. This is I on the Ball 557 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:55.760 with Steve Ribera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome 558 00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:59.519 back. Join the buck around Fox Sports fourteen fifty on Steve, You're James 559 00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.079 get fifteen minutes, you want to give us a call five to h four 560 00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:07.880 one sixty. It was good to talk to or San Diego guys. Yeah, 561 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:12.199 Kirk Kenny, first time I had him on the show. But um, 562 00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:15.039 obviously you know you know the question I asked. I mean, he 563 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:19.800 can't go anywhere right now? No, right, you can't tall like us. 564 00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.119 And he goes a vacation. It's gonna happen. Yeah, and he's 565 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:23.800 hanging out there until this thing happens. Yeah. Well, the good thing, 566 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:27.360 the good thing that he said. And I'm not sure if other editors 567 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.159 will left this fly, but find out today, find out today, he 568 00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:35.440 says, I'm not doing that because it continues to feed the beast of some 569 00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:38.199 speculation, speculation which you know, good for him, that's really cool, 570 00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:43.800 you know that the one Ryan allows that and trusting him that he can get 571 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:46.719 the story without you know, writing about it every day. All right, 572 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:51.920 I have a question for you. If you had four hundred grand sitting in 573 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:57.199 your in your living room or in your pocket or whatever, would you put 574 00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.840 it on the NBA draft tonight? No, no two, not even first 575 00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:04.199 thing. No, No, I did that last year, remember I think 576 00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.239 they did that Austria when and then the last Monte they switched. I did 577 00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.320 that too, and they switched and switched it. Yeah, just all of 578 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.639 a sudden, no two hundred draft kings. Somebody put four hundred thousand dollars 579 00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:19.880 on Victor Webb and Yama to be the first number one overall pick at minus 580 00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.920 twenty thousand odds, so they would win two thousand dollars. Yeah, what's 581 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.320 the point. What's the point If you have the four hundred thousand dollars, 582 00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.159 why do you need another two four thousand? I wouldn't because about retirement. 583 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.000 Did you want to cash a ticket or what? What's the deal? So 584 00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:37.440 anyways, hey, UM skipped a thing. When we're talking about the LSU's 585 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:42.159 i ARP thing. The IRP did smack the football program around a little bit, 586 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.599 and UH wanted to cover that little bit. First of all, Um, 587 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:49.159 they had to vacate a bunch of wins. Apparently there was a player 588 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:57.360 whose father got one hundred and eight thousand dollars from somebody attached to the program 589 00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:02.719 who embezzled that money from from UH from somewhere and gave it to UH. 590 00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:08.000 This athlete one hundred and eighty thousand dollars and the player was at was at 591 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:14.360 LSU from twenty twelve to twenty sixteen. Doesn't see what the player was, 592 00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:16.360 No, I wonder if he was any good. I don't know. But 593 00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:22.559 because of that, they've had to vacate thirty seven wins from less miles coaching 594 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:30.239 career, which means he drops under the sixty uh winning percentage threshold to be 595 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:31.719 able to get into the College Football Hall of Fame, which is what's keeping 596 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.239 Dick Tomi out of the out of the Hall of Fame right now. They've 597 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:39.000 not bent bent over backwards or changed the rule or giving them a little leeway 598 00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:44.239 to do that. So he fought he's now in at point five ninety seven 599 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.599 because of those vacates, and so now less Miles may not get into. 600 00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:51.360 He's not even coaching anymore, right, didn't he go into get a Yeah? 601 00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.599 I think he thinks out and then yeah, he was in Kansas and 602 00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:58.679 then he got fired from there. Um. One of the violations that also 603 00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:04.159 occurred there was if remember after LC won the national championship, Odell Beckham went 604 00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.400 on the field was ending any money to players. They determined that he gave 605 00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:12.800 four players two thousand dollars each, So that was part of the part of 606 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:15.800 the punishments they got so tivation for three years. So timing is everything, 607 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.760 right, if you did that now would be okay, no, no, 608 00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:23.039 because they have to do something for the two thousand dollars. Okay, well 609 00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:25.159 you give me two thousand and then I'll just do something for ya. You 610 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.679 send out a tweet, right or whatever. Yeah, and then there was 611 00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:35.519 also one more violation that had to do with ed Orgeron having impermissible contact with 612 00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.239 with with a prospect. But the LSC football program gets smacked around a little 613 00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:43.960 bit. They're on a three year probation now, uh with with the NC 614 00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:47.599 DOUBLEA. So there you go. Um, here's the one. And I'm 615 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:53.280 sure he's getting paid for this. Caleb Williams is gonna have a bubblehead night 616 00:42:53.320 --> 00:43:00.039 at Dodger State in August. They would, wouldn't. You don't have to 617 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.760 play for the Dodgers to get a bubblehead. I guess you don't have to 618 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:07.119 be Yeah, you don't. You know you've arrived when you get a bubblehead. 619 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:09.239 Yeah, it's some other place. It's some other place. We gotta 620 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:15.199 call it. H on there and on the ball Hey, good afternoon guys. 621 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:17.679 Tommy Lang, How are you doing pretty good? Tommy? What's up? 622 00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.960 Hey? I got what I hope is kind of a funny story from 623 00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:27.719 last year's NBA Draft. Okay, can I tell it? Yeah? So, 624 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:31.719 uh, if you if you go backwards in time and go to the 625 00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:36.320 USC home game, you know, somewhere in the first part of Mark right, 626 00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.519 and uh, I'm at the game and we're in we're in the second 627 00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:44.679 row in sixteen, so we're straight across the USC bench, right, And 628 00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:46.719 then three or four minutes into the game, I mean it's a fired up 629 00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:50.880 game. We're like ranked three to five and they're in the top fifteen eighteen. 630 00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.320 This this guy and it's probably fifties, and his daughter comes sitting next 631 00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:59.800 to us on the aisle. No big deal. She's amazingly too good looking, 632 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.000 you know. But about twenty four and then three four minutes of more 633 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.480 game time, they're not moving, they're not cheering for anybody, They're just 634 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.719 like sitting there watching the game. So at the TV time out, I 635 00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.800 say to this girl who turns out to be your this kid, her name 636 00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.119 is Kendall Pritchard, I said, hey, do you guys come to a 637 00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.679 lot of games and she's like, no, I live in LA and I 638 00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:29.760 met my dad here to come watch number zero matherin. Right. So we 639 00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.280 get to the draft day and if you remember, none of us we didn't 640 00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:37.719 know who was getting ticked by who. So I'm so bored. I turned 641 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:39.639 on the draft when it's going to start, and I opened up the Arizona 642 00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:45.000 Wildcats page on Facebook, and after about the second pick, I just put 643 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:46.760 it in there. I go, Hey, wouldn't it be cool if Mathern 644 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:52.159 gets drafted by the Pacers? Who the GM is Kevin Pritchard, you know, 645 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:55.440 the point guard from eighty eight Kansas Dannon Manning championship team. That was 646 00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:59.679 just so funny because then he ends up getting picked. It was just a 647 00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.960 fun the story because they didn't really fit in you know, oh, oh 648 00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.239 it was Kevin Pritchard. Yeah, it was Kevin Pritchard. You know. 649 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.280 At the end of the game, he just turned and turned towards us and 650 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.920 he's like, hey, what's your names? And I told him and they 651 00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:14.719 said, I I'm Kevin. Nice to meet. Yeah. I said, 652 00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:17.480 yeah, I remember you. I was in Kansas and he kind of smiled 653 00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:20.800 and he goes, good memory. And I said, that's not that great. 654 00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.119 But yeah, it was Kevin Pritchard, you know from the Pacers GM 655 00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:28.480 and he was the point guard in Kansas. The other two things I remember 656 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:30.039 about that game, which was cool, was I gave nine and a half 657 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.599 because if you remember, we were down by six, eight, ten in 658 00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.639 the middle of the second half when we won by nine. And in the 659 00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:42.400 second half when USC was shooting right in front of us, there were so 660 00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.599 many balls taking out of bounds, like ten feet in front of us, 661 00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:50.280 and Drew Peterson kept taking the ball, throwing the ball in and then I 662 00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.599 was riding him like a donkey. I just couldn't because he went like one 663 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:57.159 for the world that day and I kept going at him, just keep throwing 664 00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:01.679 about, just keep jacking up shot. But it was a fun story, 665 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:05.639 and you know, I'll see what happens today, all right, man, 666 00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.119 Very cool, Hey Tommy, thanks a much, man, good story. 667 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:13.039 Thanks later. Okay, we got seven minutes and do you want to call? 668 00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:16.360 Yeah a guy that I know what my buddy always notices whenever he shows 669 00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:20.880 up, and it's more often at the PAC twelve tournament. You always see 670 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.960 um. Now I can't think of his name Danny always a Pac twelve tournament 671 00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:30.719 every year, every year, sitting there taking notes, baseball cap, trying 672 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:36.559 thinking nobody's gonna recognize him. But always there. But yeah, interesting stuff. 673 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:38.559 Yeah, you know, Arizone's always guys, guy, you know, 674 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:44.840 scout stuff. There's always guys. If you remember they had from the Lakers. 675 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:49.159 Oh man, he was a chapter in my book Riowa Loots, one 676 00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:58.639 of the Loots cards. God, I hate my you always with the Lakers. 677 00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.039 Yeah, I got another call. H you're on the r and I 678 00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:05.679 on the ball. Hey, guys, this is Phil. Hey Phil, 679 00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:07.920 what's up? How are you guys doing? We're doing good? What are 680 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.039 you on your mind? Hey? I have a question for both of you. 681 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.320 Okay, since it's uh, it's kind of a basketball day with the 682 00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:21.239 drafting all ye, who who do you think Floyd Is can be more like? 683 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:24.559 At the end of the day, after his career is over, he's 684 00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:30.880 going to be more like lud Olson or more like uh Sean Sean Miller? 685 00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:39.719 What sense success? Oh? Winning games? Being successful in the tournament, 686 00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:45.119 raising the University of Arizons Loot to the heights that they used to be lot 687 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:52.480 not even a question to talk about. Tomm Lloyd right, Why? Yeah, 688 00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.199 because I think Tommy Lloyd's gonna get Arizona to the Promised Land, not 689 00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.280 know so much a natural championship, but I think I us gonna get to 690 00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:04.039 a couple of finals fours. Why is that? Because I think he's a 691 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.880 better coach. I think he's a when I say a better coach. He's 692 00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:10.559 got his guys playing in a way that other guys are gonna want to come 693 00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:13.840 and play for him, and he's going to continue to get good plays. 694 00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:15.000 Wait wait, wait, was there a right or wrong answer? Because you're 695 00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:20.199 you're told yeah, he seemed like you disagree with us. Well I did 696 00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:22.400 disagree with you, guys. No, there is no right or wrong answer 697 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:28.880 because it's an opinion. Right, So do you I think I think he 698 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:30.719 I think he's going to gonna be closer to Sean Miller, which would mean 699 00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:37.280 one because I think that that in the long run, he'll he'll never beat 700 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:40.880 to the point where Rude Olsen was taking teams to elite eights in final fours. 701 00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:45.519 I don't even to the championship game with Rude alson. We went to 702 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:47.280 do to two championship games. No, don't get me wrong. Well, 703 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:51.440 it hasn't in him to do that. Yes, I'm gonna think so is 704 00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:54.519 because he's only had two years as as head coach and he hasn't really proven 705 00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:59.480 anything yet. Might be wrong, That's just what I think. So winning 706 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:01.679 sixty one games, I think he was in two years, it's not proven. 707 00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:05.880 From Phil, were you what are you doing well? Okay? And 708 00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:07.599 also Phil, let me just say, don't get me wrong. Remember, 709 00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:13.519 don't get me wrong. I don't think. I don't think Tommy Lloyd is 710 00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:15.440 a lout Olson in the making. But you said you're going to be closer 711 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:20.519 to Loot or closer to Sean, And I think if he gets to a 712 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.199 final four or two, he's closer to Loot than he is to Sean. 713 00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:29.239 And I also think that, Okay. So I also think that it's not 714 00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:30.920 out of the realm of possibility. I think he's a really good coach. 715 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.519 And I think what we've seen in the last couple years, in spite of 716 00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:37.320 the Princeton loss, all right, in spite of the fact that they didn't 717 00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:39.639 that they only got to the sweet sixteen and in his first year, which 718 00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:44.280 I sit there and I say, we're unhappy he didn't go far enough in 719 00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:46.400 his first year because he only got to the sweet sixteen. I think he's 720 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:50.280 a really damn good coach, and I think he's gonna be here a while 721 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.079 because he wants to be here. And I just think that good things are 722 00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:58.119 gonna happen with this program. And that sounds homeless as all hell, but 723 00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:01.000 from what I've seen these first two years, I do believe that he's a 724 00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:05.400 really good coach who does things in a way that he's going to continue to 725 00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.239 be a good coach. And I agree. I agree with Jay for the 726 00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:12.679 first time and forever for all those reasons. Phil, you must suffer from 727 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:21.440 the Norm Ellenberger. I do that that and the Steve Alfred. With that 728 00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:23.400 said, I don't know if you remember Gary Coulson. Remember Gary Coulson coach 729 00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:27.440 there? Oh no, I remember Gary. He's the one that took over 730 00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.119 it fixed the program after after Ellenberger. Right, And one of the things, 731 00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:34.079 and I don't know if you know that Dennis Latta passed away just recently 732 00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.840 and the one thing that he would he would say to the media and alb 733 00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.519 Creek, all you do is complain, there's never a happiness in this global 734 00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:47.519 land. And and Phil, you're proving it right, hey day that you 735 00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:52.840 can say that about every university in this United States. That is true too. 736 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:58.599 It is that four people aren't happy, they're not that's a that's a 737 00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:00.960 hundred, that's one hundred percent in fact. That's not of opinion. That 738 00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:04.400 is fact. You know, because while I was seeing fact, we're I 739 00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.400 was seeing radians of Arizona fans as as some of them, not the worst 740 00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:12.679 fans, but the most entitled fans, uh you know, in the country, 741 00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:15.199 and they are and and and so yeah, I mean you're right. 742 00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:21.119 I mean people there's people were including you. I guess we're unhappy with Tommy 743 00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.079 Lloyd after his first two years when he's done. No, I'm not so 744 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:27.440 many things. No, I'm no, Okay, So I was. I 745 00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:29.960 was a Sean Miller fan. I think Sean Miller was a good coach. 746 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:31.559 And I think he still is a good coach. Look what he did at 747 00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:35.360 Xavier. Again, wherever he was, where he goes, he wins. 748 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:37.920 Right, he was he was never going to become the coach, said lud 749 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.119 Olsen. Was. He never was going to be that. I don't think 750 00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:44.679 he'll ever will be, Okay. Yeah, And I think Tommy Lloyd is 751 00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:49.320 gonna be closer to that than Rudolsen. That's what I think. And I'm 752 00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:52.760 not saying that's a bad thing. I would take that at you and them 753 00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:57.639 any days, right, but I just to me rude Olsen was he leade? 754 00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.000 Yeah, it's hard to be leader. Well, we're not going to 755 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:01.840 have another one of those. You don't. You don't get another week failed 756 00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:07.679 the field test, but it was tilted. That test was tilted because of 757 00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:16.280 the greater last thing. Guys, I just hope that San Diego State does 758 00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:21.960 not leave the Mountain West because there are only real consistent team that we have 759 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.159 amongst football, basketball and base makes sense, makes sense. But they're coming. 760 00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:29.519 They're coming to the back really weekends the Mountain West. If they leave, 761 00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:30.960 all right, sorry Phil, but we're taking them all right. Hey, 762 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:32.679 we gotta go. Top of the hour, end of the show. 763 00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:38.000 Thank you for calling. I appreciate good call. Thanks guysger come on, 764 00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:42.800 what are you doing? I just remember the all, the all, the 765 00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:46.119 all, the Turtuoise and silver, the normalger where and that scandal of back 766 00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:51.360 in the day, the grades on. That's the blip on the ridge compared 767 00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:53.679 to what's going on now. As as we just went through, uh little 768 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:59.239 through the LSU stuff. Yeah no, I no kidding, that's just uh, 769 00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:00.960 it just change, all right. So we're gonna be back tomorrow. 770 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:06.480 We're gonna be talking to FC two soon, right, FC two songs stuff, 771 00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:08.280 and so you know, whenever we come up with it will be a 772 00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:12.159 Friday. We'll have fun and we hope you'll be around to that. So 773 00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:13.000 we'll see you tomorrow