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Dave, how's everything going. Oh
it's good, it could be, I

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guess that of me just asking you
questions. And I hate to just kind

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of put you on the spot,
Dave, but just whatever pops in your

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mind. I know you've had some
bigfoot encounters. Do you want to start

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with that. I was about twelve
years old when this happened, and I

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got to put up close and personal
with that one that was I was within

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touching distance a bit. We'll tell
us the story. I want to hear

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you. Well, basically, Dad
Pop he was I was born and raised

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in Nan and he always wanted to
get back to the country. I say,

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he was raised by his uncle out
there on the farm during the depression,

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and he kind of wanted to get
away from the hustle and bustle in

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Miami and find a piece of ground
and do a little farm again, stuff

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like that. So the seventies he
bought this little piece of brownd out here.

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You know, we're all going to
move to the country. Of course,

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he was still working going back and
forth, so he had us out

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here. We were in a little
single wide trailer that he put on the

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property, and we did have you
know, a whole lot of power and

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stuff. Here was kind of like
camping out in this trailer. He got

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some some calves, we built the
hay barn and stuff out there. And

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one night the gals are all moving
and carrying, carrying on. Of course,

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I ain't got a flash light or
nothing, but I go out there.

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I think I'm in short pants and
t shirt. I'm glad to see

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what's going on with his calves.
Well, the way the barn was made,

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it was facing away from the moonlight, so I couldn't see himTo the

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barn, but I could tell there
was a calf inside the barn and something

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laying next to it, and I
thought that there was a dog or something

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on the calf. So here I
am trying to get my eyes just to

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the light to sit bout that time
whatever it was stood up, and of

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course it's sell inside the barn,
and I'm thinking it's a man. So

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I'm home for my brother to bring
a light and a gun and so forth.

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Well it steps out from underneath the
eve of the hay barn, and

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that's that's seven foot Is that even
that barn? I know this because as

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a kid, part of the game
was to jump up trying to touch the

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eve. It was about seven talk. He had to bend over to step

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out of it. He was standing
there. By then I could seem fairly

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well in the moonlight. The first
thing came out of my mouth was okay,

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I'm armed, you know, and
it said it either said this or

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mine spoken or whatever. But here
I am. Look at this thing.

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It's over seven feet tall, it's
all of four or five feet wide.

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And his voice does not fit his
body. It's like, well, i'll

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come. I own the end in
a you know, a high pitched nasally

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voice that would fit, you know, right into the local accent here.

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So by now I'm backing up,
and it decide it's gonna it's gonna run

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past me. And as it runs, it runs down this ditch line and

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you know, jumps over to four
foot fence like you know, like like

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a hurdler hops over hurdle and it's
gone. Well, I go into the

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barn and there's a calf and it's
tied by the neck that it took the

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hay strings and it seem like tying
knots had had it like twisted and braided

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up. I got the calf loosed
and then of course Pop was away at

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that time. He came on the
next day. Bob goes out there and

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looks and so forth. I'm showing
him the footprints this thing left, and

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you know, it's like the size
twenty two footprint. You're great, big

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footprint. He calls the law out
there. Law comes out. First thing,

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first thing your deputy does is he
tries to convince Bob, yeah,

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there's one of them crazy guys out
of the mental hospital at his gate.

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And you know they're mostly harmless,
don't pay no attention. But I noticed

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everywhere he seemed to put print,
he tookie shoe and wiped it out,

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wiped over new footprints that you couldn't
see him anymore. I'm pretty much convinced

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that whatever this thing was, this
big foot or whatever it was having some

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kind of sexual relations with this calf
when you take a look at it,

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because I've seen other ones they don't
look like this this one here. I

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don't know if he was fostering,
or if he was deformed, if there

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was something wrong with him, but
his head seemed to becoming out of the

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center of his chest. I mean, I don't know if that's how big

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his upper body muscles were what But
if you were to look at it,

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like if you to see his shadow
cast on the ground, you wouldn't see

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a shadow of his head. You
see his shoulders up a brother, and

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it was just it just now I've
seen I've seen ones after that. You

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can clearly you know, he don't
see much of a neck on them,

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but you see their head above their
shoulders. But not for this one.

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But I thought, well maybe it
was deformed. And the other ones,

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you know, he couldn't find the
mate, so it decided to have its

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way with his camp. I don't
know that that was that that that was

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the first one. That's when uh
pop bought me a shotgun. She showed

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me how to shoot. He you
know, in his mind it was a

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crazy mental patient. But I know, I know for a fact that would

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that was anything. I've never heard
anybody talk about one that's head. I

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can see what you're talking about,
almost like an igor post. Exactly,

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okay, exactly it was as I
said. I don't know if it was

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trying to bulk up to make it
look itself much larger than it was by

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flexing its muzzles or what. But
you know, it's like if if you

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were looking on it straight on its
shin would be like even to where it's

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nipples, and add all that muscular
over top of it. So I've seen

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I've seen one picture on the internet
that kind of looks like that, or

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it's all muscle above its head like
that. But man, that is so

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weird. It is the other ones
I've seen. You know, you can

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you know, just just like the
Patty film, you know what its head

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is on his body, but not
knocked that one. It might have been

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the one, right. Well,
I know you've had other encounters, but

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I kind of want to vary You
have so many stories you've heard from family

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members and other people and people you're
associated with. I kind of want to

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vary it up again. Before we
started, you were telling us about a

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guy that you knew that hunted vampires
and werewolves. Do you want to talk

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about that or leave that out?
It is okay, the same mental hospital

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they told me this guy escaped from. When I got grown up, I

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got a job out there. You
know, you have all kinds of craziness

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going on in the mental hospital.
You know, got you an idea of

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what can it does go on in
a place like that? Yeah, it's

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one guy came in and he was
a John Doe. They didn't give his

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name, and he wouldn't give his
name. In fact, I knew him

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for about four months, every day
working with him before he finally told me

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I could call him Tom. Young
guy, well not young he was.

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He had a demeanor on him,
like so something like Denzel Washington. He

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was a little a light skinned black
guy. He was probably in his forties

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at that point, maybe maybe even
his fifties. It's hard to tell.

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Very clean cut. We had a
little clothing store over there where you could

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go and the patients could go when
they could get closed, and you could

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tell that he was used to dressing
nice. He was always you know,

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like telling him, guys and run
around in their underwear, not him.

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He was always fully dressed, very
very sociable. And they didn't haven't we

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any medications of any kind. He
was just there for observation. Have you

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never known anybody was like lifetime military, How they've got this kind of way

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about them that you can tell that
he's like, you know, almost Chris

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Turns and stuff. That's the way
this guy was. After a bit of

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time, I got to talking to
him and he told me that he hunted

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the paranormal, that he hunted vampires
and werewolves. And that's that's the reason

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he was admitted. He had driven
a steak through a guy's heart in Tampa

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and had killed him, or so
they thought. And when the cops come,

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and I guess the guy had a
silent alarm that Tommy, Tommy wasn't

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aware of. They came into their
arrested bese. He went without a fuss,

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And the only thing was he kept
telling him he wasn't done yet.

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He wasn't done yet. They had
him locked up down there in the jail

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and they were going asked prosecuting for
murder. The body of the person or

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whatever it was they thought was a
person, it disappeared out of the morning.

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He's gone. You know, they
couldn't prosecute you for murder. They

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had no evidence, They had nobody
that had nothing. They set him down

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to us. That's what he was
telling me later about that. He said,

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he said that you had to cut
the head off to make it official.

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If not, you pull that steake
out, they come right back to

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life. I guess that's would happy
steak, he told me. He told

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me the different things that he had
done. The only thing he told me

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about werewolves, because he knew well. To start the story off, he

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told me that he was trained by
a guy in Boston to do this kind

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of stuff, that he has the
wherewithal and the means to come and go

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and do his please, and that
he traveled up and down the Eastern Cboard

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hunting estings, and that he made
quite a few kills. He didn't say

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what all, what all he gotten
rid of, but you know, in

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his mind he was a monster killing. That's what he did. He told

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me about about werewolves. He said
that you had to kill them when they're

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in a human form. That the
wolf was just too tough, you could,

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you know. And I got thinking
about this is when people told about

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the dog men and they shoot to
think fifteen times to the keeps Ronald coming.

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That's what he said about a werewolf. He said, you know,

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bullets of stuff really having no effect
on him. You got to kill them

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when they're human. Name I don't
know, but anyways, he stayed there

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about six and a half to seven
months, and like I said, he

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told me after about the four or
fourth or fifth months, I could call

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him. There a few few other
people he that called time and he became

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real good friends with the social worker. Well, one night on night shift,

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this is the shift after mine,
he gave a note to one of

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the people and told them to give
it to the social work and they were

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like, well, why don't you
just wait to give Jonahmar He's like,

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well, you do this one.
So the next morning when they do the

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Brett the morning check, he was
gone. They got no idea how he

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got out of the place where he
went to or what. He was just

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gone. And the note with the
social workers to this and I'm sorry,

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man duty calls, that was that
was the note. I don't know how

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he got the notice to know when
it was time for him to leave or

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what, but he got ready to
go, it was boom, he was

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gone. That is fascinating that I
have never talked to anybody like that in

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my life. Now, did you
work at the hospital? Yeah? I

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worked about ten years out there.
Okay, so that's how you had access

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to him. Yeah, I'm figuring
you're working, I don't know, carpentry

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work or something. You had.
He was a hand on your a crew

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or something. But you later in
life, I did a lot of menia

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waivers at different things, but at
that point I worked out there at the

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at the hospital, and it's amazing
about you know, when it comes to

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the paranormal. I believe in the
physical, I believe in the angelic,

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and I believe in the demonic.
I'm kind of a Bible literalist in that,

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so I don't believe that if you
see a ghost, that you're actually

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seeing the spirit of somebody that dies. But I know spots in that hospital,

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like every one ward up there where
a nurse had gotten killed a patient

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than that killed her, And on
certain nights you could see her walking up

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down the haulway. I don't know
if that was just the psychic energy absorbed

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by the building or what it was, but you know, I doubt you

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can carry on the conversation with her. I don't believe in that, but

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you could see her walking up down
that hallway late at night. And I

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know a lot of times, like
with the way the units were laid out,

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you had like one set awards on
one side, and then like like

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usually had male and female awards would
would share like a courtyard to wear in

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the evenings they could get out there
and congregate a little bit and they had

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these big flabberglass rocking chairs and I've
walked between wards, you know, late

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at night. I used to work
fort at midnight and there wouldn't be a

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wind blowing and the rocking chairs would
be rocking like crazy. I don't know

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if it was all the disturbed minds
putting out in psychic energy or what it

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was, but this silly stuff like
that. We had a boy out there

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one time and uh, I saw
this myself, and this this one was

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scared. He wasn't crazy. And
you know, as as far as like

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violinering, he thinks that most time
he's very quiet, kept himself in the

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room. Well, he believed that
he was possessed by demon, and one

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of the psychologists there decided, well, they're going to and she she was.

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She was a nice lady, don't
get me wrong. I mean she

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went to church and everything else.
But she thought that if she could convince

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him that she, you know what, going exercises demon out of him,

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that he'd get better. So one
day she brings her Bible and starts to

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pray over him and stuff. And
old man, somebody who was so nice

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and calm, he changed real quick. He was trying to kill her.

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I grabbed hold of him. Now
I waited, Oh at that time,

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I probably weighed about two forty about
six foot tall, so I was a

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pretty big old boy. And I
grabbed him, was planning him to the

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ground. Two or three other guys
grabbed hold of was trying to hold him

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down over his face. It's just
like you you ever watched like the old

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you know, wolfman movies, and
never he changed how they did that with

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the stop motion photography. One minute
he's a man, and it's like the

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next scene he had a little bit
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Looking at his face. It did, but I don't know, like

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like a demon's face was like projected
over top of his. And he went

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to flipping us around, and I
say he did. He wouldn't have weighed

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one hundred and twenty pounds. He
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They finally got enough dope in him
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know, there for a while he
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I think I ain't actually demonically possessed. And she brought it out, trying

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to read that Bible and stuff over
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when my pop was dying, he
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down in uh in Miami, dinner
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he was kind of a war hero. He was shot three times in France.

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Whenever they come time for him to
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in his bed and he had on
a button down shirt, you know,

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short sleeved shirt. I didn't see
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shirt. Afterwards, he said,
death came, and you know, like

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like death like you see like on
the Simpsons or the Family Guy, you

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know, the black robe and the
bony hands and all that. He hed

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come and stood on pop shoulder and
he said, oh, boy, said,

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you were skating me. You were
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but this time I have now.
I looked at his shirt after that was

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over, and there was two little
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I said, I didn't see to
figure. I guess only only he could

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see the fat footprints his shirt.
I think probably the ghost thing or I've

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never seen anything, but I felt
like the presence of other I don't even

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know what to call them, entities
close to me. Probably just probably just

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my imagination, that's a lot closer
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encounter, you know. And as
far as encounters go, there's a lot

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of bigfoot encounters and we do them
all the time on this channel, and

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you know, people talk about it
all the time, But there are so

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many more paranormal type stories, like
you just told out there that they there's

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a hundred times as many of those
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we were again talking before we started
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that's a huge deal that people deal
with, and I'd like, I'd like

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to start hearing more of those.
You know, we're not just locked into

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cryptids here anyway. That's a little
bit off topic, but but but it

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is interesting. Okay, So imagine
you have even more ghost stories you want

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to you want to you want to
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here the road that I live on
back in the day, and he used

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to lead down to what was in
the county seat. It's no longer than

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the county seat. We had a
courthouse down there, and we had the

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hanging treaty into jail, you know, to to to the big churches were

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down there back whenever I was dating
my wife. There used to be a

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spot about midway down that road where
there was a swamp and they had put

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big coverts in the swamp and it
built a road over it. There was

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a spot you can kind of pull
over. You wouldn't be on the road,

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but you can pull over there.
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was like a tunnel. That was
a good place to go and you know,

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park, park with your sweetheart late
later at night and sit and talk

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and so forth. So we're down
there one even and it's probably it's probably

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going on where we are at four
to twelve in the hospital, so it's

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probably going on about one o'clock in
the morning. We were sitting there discussing

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life and getting married and all that, all that stuff, and we hear

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coming down the road behind us the
sound of a horse and wagon. You

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hear the horse and ah, and
you hear them plump of his feet,

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You hear the the I guess a
man and woman talking. You hear spring

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squeaking and a bell ringing and so
forth. It comes right up to the

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car where we're parked, to ride
on by us. You know, you

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could hear all this and says,
I looked on the road going in front

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of us. All you could see
was a horse and wagon. Was a

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horse and white feet clumping on the
floor on the ground. He's the four

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white beetle. That was I thought, I, oh, that was pretty

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good. She was, she was, she was ready to quit discussing.

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It hit the road at that point, it was the conversation was over with.

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And well, once she saw that
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I was staying at a house that
was supposedly haunted. They told me that

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there was the spirit of a little
girl in there. Their their little girl

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would see this other little girl's spirit
or whatever, would you know, laugh

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and giggle a wave at it.
I know a couple of times on the

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answering machine you get a message,
it'd be like a child laughing. And

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well, it worked out to where
because I worked nights, I slept during

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the day while you know, they
were at working and their kids and stuff

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were at school of babysit a I'm
laying there and I'm sleeping real good,

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and I feel something like shake mateau
and I ignore it. And then I

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feel pad on the leg and I
ignore that, and then whap, I

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get slapped in the face, and
I go when I look in the mirror

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and there's a little tiny handprint like
you imagine a baby slapped my face,

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Babe a favorite. I thought,
Oh, that was kind of odd.

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Uh. You know, we were
talking about about how the psyche can play

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on some things. Back in the
twenties and thirties here in Florida. Each

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have bands and gypsies. They still
come today, if they don't come like

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it did back then. They roll
into town, you know, with a

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horse and a wagon and they put
on a show and they would go around.

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They'd you know, do little odd
jobs, fixing pots and pants.

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Well, on Sunday, their thing
was to put them on the show and

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they had some animals and stuff.
When the animals they had was a monkey

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and they had like you remember,
like the old organ grinders. The monkey

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eat Chippy's hat and he'd do a
backflip and he got a little tin cup.

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Yeah. Well, he caught to
people outside of church and he would

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do that. He would do little
flips and he told you know, and

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people dropped a penny in his cups, and you know he'd out like he'd

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done us a favor. Well,
he'd watch the crowd and for the ones

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that hadn't paid yet, he'd like
going, like, you know, tug

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on their pant leg, hold a
cup out, like you know, quit

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being cheap kind of thing. It
was part of the act. And I

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guess that if if a guy give
him, give him a penny or whatever,

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he chaked the guy's hand. Well, this woman, she was there,

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and she was about a month along
and pregnant, and you could tell

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us she was scared of the monkey
gives My grandmother telling the stories that she

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was scared of that monky. But
she reached out and dropped the penny in

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the cup. Well, I guess
the monkey was going to hop up on

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her shoulder and kiss her. I
guess it was the deal, you know,

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thank you for the penny going to
give her. And it's scared her.

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It's scared her almost half to death. She'd like to faint it and

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everything else. Well, fast forward
seven months and the baby born. Maybe

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it looks just like a monkey.
Oh my gosh, your kid. My

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grandmother, my grandmother said that that
woman kept that baby covered up, you

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know, like she'd be out walking
the baby in the carriage, she'd have

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a blanket over to you know,
like tend it over the baby. They

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want to buy to seat the baby. So he looked just like a monkey.

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Yeah, you know, she was
so scared of it that it imprinted

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the baby or what. But I
thought that that was a bit of a

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bit of vidness, you know,
for things to happen. You know,

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I've I've seen something like that before, and it was in my adult life.

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I bought some property in another state. I actually built a building on

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it and ran a business out of
it for fifteen years. But the property

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was way out in the delta,
and it had it had only just been

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formed. There was an old liquor
store on there that had been closed down.

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And I bought the property from a
woman who had inherited it from her

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father, and she had two daughters. Now I don't know, I'm sure

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it was a genetic a chromosomal thing
or something, because I you know,

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I'm not familiar with those type of
birth defects and handicaps and things like that.

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But she had two daughters, and
I swear they both looked like cavemen.

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They had you know, have you
seen the pictures of a neanderthal looking

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human face? And yeah, right, well these two girls were there were

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twins, and they both looked identical
and they looked like and they were very

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friendly. I mean, I loved
him. I talked to him all the

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time. And of course they couldn't
they were older. I think they were

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in their thirties or forties, and
they had to live with their mother.

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But you know, when you first
walk up and see that, it's shocking.

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It's you have to really think about
it, not to show it when

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you see something like that. But
she walked around town with them all the

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time, and I never saw him
before, but I saw him three or

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four times after we made that deal
on the property and I got her paid

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and all that stuff, and it's
really it was it's I have not thought

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of that until you just told that
story. That's amazing. It's amazing.

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Now I'm going to think about it
for another week and I don't know what

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I'm going to glean from it.
But that's really strange. So yeah,

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the psyche does have I mean,
the way you see things, the way

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you absorb things and work them out
in your mind, has a lot to

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do with And there are people who
will say, oh, that's that's just

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bullcrap, that's not true and stuff
like that. But there's too many.

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It's like Bigfoot. There's too many
stories out there, and it's hard to

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weed through the chaff, you know. To I think somebody said, wino

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out the chaff, and I don't
even try to do that. But I

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just listened to the stories and I
relate them to everyone because I like the

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story. But there's too many.
There's too much weird stuff that people talk

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about through the years for some of
that not to be true. Don't you

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think, Oh yeah, it's just
like just like that. The story about

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the fact, now I saw him. It's daughter and she would have been

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I'd have been about sixteen at the
time, and she'd have been in her

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late fifties, almost sixty. And
they said that she got the blessing of

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the face. She was, you
know, the first I guess the first

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three kids had the pock marks and
the missing hair and stuff to match him.

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It. By the time come along, I guess they forgave her.

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But I've seen her face. I
don't know how to explain it. It

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was it was an ethereal beauty.
She almost glowed, you know, It's

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like if she if she she walked
into a grocery store or a public place,

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everybody would turn and look at her. It was just it was just

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set that outstanding. I mean that
the ain't no movie store had nothing on

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her, and to be as old
as she was and to look at her,

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I mean it was you know,
you do see you do see the

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age on her at all. I
mean it was, you know, almost

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I don't know. I won't say
tinker bellish, but you know what I

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mean, It's it's just I don't
know, she glowed and I can't even

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explain it. It's like it's like
Pop. You know, Pop's always been,

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uh, the center of attention whenever
he went anywheres. He had a

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good sense of humor, and he
wasn't you know, he's pretty good looked

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fellow and Eric. You know when
I seen her walk up, Pop's jaw

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hanging open. I know that he
saw it too. He's like, you

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know, what is this this angel
come down from heaven kind of thing?

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And here's another thing, like,
for instance, the Faye. I got

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a lot of comments on that video
and I can't I'm trying. I get

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so many. I'm trying to think, but here's what I'm trying to get

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at people will lock for instance,
you know a story about fairies, for

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example, they'll lock them into something
they read and they can't they can't see

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it any other way. Or they'll
see Darby O'Gill and the little people,

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or they else you know, or
you know, like a banshee, or

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and they lock them into one.
They have one vision of what these things

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can be. But the truth is, for example, the fae can take

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on all kinds of all kinds of
physical appearances. Wouldn't you do you agree

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with that? I mean, like
people lock themselves into what they think Bigfoot

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looks like. But I think the
descriptions that we get across the at least

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across North America, your description when
we first started was totally different than anything

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I've ever seen. And I don't
doubt for a minute you saw, but

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that was a different looking you know, Carrie Arnold, he describes one.

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A matter of fact, the one
he describes sounds like the one you described.

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It was real wide, and you
know, had real big you know,

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those big neck muscles and what do
you call those shoulder muscles next to

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your neck anyway, those kind of
muscles. So, and then you hear

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people like I got the guy who
told me the story while he was duck

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hunting that I wrote recently. He
said the one he saw was tall and

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lanky. So I mean, I
think they take on all kinds of different

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forms. And what do you think
about Bigfoot? Do you think he's a

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physical, flesh and blood beast.
I want to say yes. I mean

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looking at it, looking at it
biblically, there's there's there's only two things

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I see Bigfoot as being. He's
either descendant enough or he's Esau, one

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of the you know when they biblely
they talk about Esau, about him being

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a man of the forest, and
Harry Man and of course Jacob and them

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when they say it, you know, there's there's no surprise in it.

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It's like that was an everyday occurrence. Oh I'm a smooth man, but

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my brother, he's a hearty man. It's like that's something that happened every

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day back. I don't know,
maybe they were just a different branch of

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humanity that popped up every you know, blue moon or what the deal was.

409
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:14.160
But I do know that they can
do things with the speed and the

410
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:18.160
ability that they move, you know, it's it almost seems supernatural. I'm

411
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:21.160
not gonna say it's supernatural, but
they're so in tune with their environment.

412
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:25.480
It's like I've I've seen one walking
across the pal meta field. Yeah dude,

413
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:29.640
you're familiar with pal metace, right, Yeah, Okay, Now you

414
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:32.400
know as well as I do.
There's there's you ned to do a clump

415
00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:33.799
of palm metace. You and I
couldn't go through there with you know,

416
00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:37.880
with a machete. It take us
half an hour to move twenty feet.

417
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:41.240
And I've seen these things go through
them like they're gliding, like they're on

418
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.799
the ten speed bicycle going full out
blue. I don't through there, and

419
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.440
they don't bob, they don't trip, they don't weave, they just I

420
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.559
don't through there. You know,
it's like it is it? Are they

421
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:55.920
that in tune with it and they're
that fast and that agile to where it

422
00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:59.640
makes you look supernatural? You know. I know people talk about cloaking and

423
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:02.920
all that the stuff. Now,
so so something I do believe, because

424
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:04.559
I do, I do believe in
the demonic. I believe if you go

425
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:08.480
out there looking for Bigfoot or whatever
dis you're looking and you don't have a

426
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:12.480
clear crisp idea in your mind and
what that is? You know, Bigfoot,

427
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:15.640
he's the greatest side and teak player
there is. He don't want to

428
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.319
be seen, but there's plenty of
things out there that do. I know

429
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.599
guys here here local that if you
know, they spend a lot of third

430
00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:25.079
time in the green Swamp. They
go hunting for Bigfoot, and they do

431
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:27.559
pretty good. But for every one
time they see a big Foot, they'd

432
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:32.680
be three or four times they'll see
a shadow man. Are you familiar with

433
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:37.240
the shadow man? Basically a shadow
man is it's a shadow that walks and

434
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.039
moves. It's it's a three dimensional
shadow. It's a dark entedy. I

435
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:45.319
saw one on one occasion walking across
the back of my property to look at

436
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.640
it. It looked just like,
you know, an old man with a

437
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.000
cowboy hat. Of course it's all
dark and in shadow. But you can

438
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.279
watch him move. You know,
he moved from fact Montfoot who was my

439
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:56.720
daughter has seen him, call me
the one they're watching. And he just

440
00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.920
walked and hambled along and then just
when he got a certain part, he

441
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.799
just disappeared. I've got a friend, he's a he was a highly patrollan

442
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.160
at that time. He saw one
in his in his kid's bedroom, and

443
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.799
he pulled a gun on it.
They've walked crazy the wall, this pear.

444
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.400
Now Here's here's a guy that his
his whole thing is about observation.

445
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.400
And he told me, said,
Dave, you know, Gud's my witness.

446
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:19.480
That's what this thing was. It
was a walking shadow. But we

447
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:25.000
were talking before about the way the
way things can seem, the way things

448
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:29.359
you know, are, are different
for everybody to seize him, you know,

449
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.920
I guess it was right after Thanksgiving
and I've got some neighbors down here.

450
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.960
They raised uh barbe to the sheep, and I don't have you ever

451
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.519
seen a barbe the sheep or not? That they aren't really like like in

452
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.599
white sheep are. They're kind of
a long hair They looked like a long

453
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.720
stringy haircoat what they looked like.
But he had about ten of them and

454
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.519
he got up one morning and they
were all dead. Well, people around

455
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.079
here know that I'm into that kind
of thing. So one of his neighbors,

456
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.319
that's about better and take a look. I go down here and I'm

457
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:02.359
taking a look. I'm trying to
talk to him and they ain't the Spanish

458
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:04.359
belt. I didn't know him all
the time we're talking, he's acting like

459
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:08.880
you don't understand englishes. I looked
at the animals. They were all killed

460
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.440
with a single blow to the left
side of their neck. The hole that

461
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:17.440
it left. You've seen people that
like the ice climbers. They got the

462
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:22.160
little pick they used to climb nice
with. If you walked up and snacked

463
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.880
the sheep in the side of the
neck, that's what the hole looked like.

464
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:27.640
We've got a lot of sugar sand
down here, so it's not great

465
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:32.799
on tracks. The little pen they
had the sheet then was probably fifty by

466
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:36.279
fifty. Then walking around in that
pen at night, they done wore away

467
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:40.119
most of the grass. There was
one spot there where they had an old

468
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.920
metal tub like the bathtub out of
the house and what they're using for water

469
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:47.240
and through and they had it plugged
up, but it leaked. There was

470
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:49.880
some water there. The ground was
well enough to leave the track you could

471
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.960
actually make out. I looked at
that track, and that track was a

472
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:57.680
lizard's track. It was. It
had the elongated and I guess they call

473
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:02.440
it the second distal, the lange, or if you looked at your hand

474
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:07.319
and beat your ring finger at elongated
and the lizard track. I've seen it,

475
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:11.200
it was probably probably six inches,
not not including that toes. If

476
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:14.759
you included to include that long toe, it's probably about about eight inches.

477
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:18.799
So looked. I didn't see.
I didn't see a trail for any tails

478
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.000
or anything. So I went.
I told him, I said, well,

479
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.319
I know, this isn't a dog
attack, this isn't a big cat

480
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:26.880
attack. I said, I'm gonna
go home. I'm gonna get up some

481
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.559
casting material, cast this track.
I'm gonna, you know, shave the

482
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.039
neck of the things. We get
a good look at this stuff. But

483
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.880
I left. I was gone about
an hour and a half trying to get

484
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:38.200
my stuff together, and I went
back down there. Of course by then,

485
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:41.880
and I had asked him. Of
course, he was hard to communicate

486
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.759
because he act, you know,
he acted like you didn't understanding. You

487
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.559
know, it was any kind of
noise made or you know, they didn't

488
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.039
hear nothing, they didn't see nothing. They'd got up and you know,

489
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.359
the sheep for this. By the
time I got back down there, the

490
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:59.000
cops are in the yard and they
done pointed to he had a neighbor over

491
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:03.240
there. So he's about I don't
know about fifty fifty five years old,

492
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.720
and he's gay, and he's pretty
flamboyant about it, and you know,

493
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.599
he holler out and he'd you know, be out in the front yard like

494
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:18.720
in a daisy dukes and stuff,
hollering the guys driving. So the whole

495
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.799
neighborhood didn't like him anyway. And
he had some dogs. And I know

496
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.839
these dogs. These dogs are they're
more of a nuisance than anything. I

497
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.359
mean, they're they're terif you trash, you'll pull your clothes down off the

498
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.839
clothes line, that kind of thing. But they want vicious animals. But

499
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.720
by the time I get back down
there, the cops are there and animal

500
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:41.000
control were there, and they picked
up the two of the dogs that belonged

501
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:42.920
to that fellow. And he doesn't
change his story. Now, oh yeah,

502
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.160
he's seen the dogs do it and
all like that. He wouldn't let

503
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.640
me go in there and cat he
wouldn't let me examine the bodies after that,

504
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:53.359
So I went down there too.
Whenever they actually having the court case,

505
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.640
this would have been old towards the
end of January, would actually went

506
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.240
to court, I was just well, I don't want to see what they're

507
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.240
gonna say. But I was gonna
tell the jud hey, I looked at

508
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:05.480
their bodies. That was not a
dog at that. That was that single

509
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.759
point and something else about to punch
your room. It kind of gotten thinking.

510
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:13.079
You've cut your hand, cut your
finger before, and you wash it

511
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:16.599
in the in the sink and you
get like the water down blood kind of

512
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:21.519
that runny, pinkish look. Yeah, that's what the little bit of blood

513
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:23.759
on the animal's neck looked like.
And there wasn't no blood on the ground.

514
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:27.480
Now, I butchered a lot of
hogs. I've done a lot of

515
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.240
hunting. You know, when you
stick an animal, it bleeds. Even

516
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.240
in this sugar sand, you could
tell where an animal bled out. There

517
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.160
wasn't much blood around these and what
I said, what blood was on them,

518
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.839
it looked watered down. So whatever
it was a god them use some

519
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:44.119
kind of handicoagulants, which gotta be
thinking too. I mean, you've got

520
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.000
ten sheet that's that's a lot of
blood for one animal. I don't know,

521
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:52.839
either some kind of clotting agent or
they got all the blood out of

522
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:58.960
it. I was talking to SHANEA
and Crystall and people over it, American

523
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:04.119
Cryptids their Facebook page and they were. They were saying it was probably a

524
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:07.880
che picabra. Now, if you
look up chie picabra, you know,

525
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.519
on Google or whatever, they're gonna
show you a picture of an old Manji

526
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.079
coyote or you know, a dog
that's got the mange. But they said

527
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.839
no, that those pictures are misleading
because they were telling me about other cases

528
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:22.400
where you know, they would go
and you know, kill every chicken in

529
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.559
the chicken coop with that function wound, and they wouldn't make a sound.

530
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:29.599
That's why apparently these these sheep did. I mean, they didn't make any

531
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.839
noise. There were no ruckus made. They just like went one from one

532
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:36.920
animal to the other and spiked him
in the neck and drank their blood.

533
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.680
I guess. But anyway, I
went to the court day. Of course,

534
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:44.039
when they're when they're talking to the
judge, they all speak perfect English.

535
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:45.319
At this point, it wasn't like
it was and I was trying to

536
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:54.119
make goat sounds and stuff out there
and striking maybe man I hate Anyway,

537
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:59.599
they had brought pictures in of you
know, like the dead the dead sheep

538
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:01.880
out there in the field. The
judge asked them, said, well,

539
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:06.039
did you see the dog? Oh, yes, yes, we've seen the

540
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:08.320
dog. Did you take the Oh
no, we didn't take pictures. Did

541
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.000
you try and stop the dog?
Oh no, we didn't try and stop

542
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.840
it. And he's like, you
know, empty pictures. You didn't try

543
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:16.519
and stop it. You know,
case's dismissed. But I was going to

544
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:22.800
tell the judge and then you know, but unfortunately the guy, you know,

545
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.480
the animal can throw already picked up
the dogs and he lost his dogs.

546
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:30.400
But he was you know, he
wasn't a very conscientious dog owner anyway.

547
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.960
But you know, I did see
two dogs get destroyed. Right,

548
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.119
bad owners, not bad dog say
kind of Yeah, you're just always in

549
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:42.079
the right place at the right time, or through your life you've you've had

550
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:46.199
some or maybe you're just able to
recognize it. You know. It's it's

551
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:51.480
funny you say that because I've talked
to people and they were like, there

552
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:53.119
are certain people that have kind of
you know, lucked up into this.

553
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:55.679
I don't say lucked up, but
they seem to, you know, be

554
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.400
the center of this kind of thing. It's like, uh, oh,

555
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:04.800
some like in folks. His name
is jam Williams. This was back years

556
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.360
years ago, long long before I
was born. He was sitting up.

557
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:14.079
Fever was going through West Virginia and
he was sitting up with a little toddler.

558
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:16.079
I guess he was the only one
in the house there. Basically he

559
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:21.159
was in one room and in the
bedroom was like through an open doorway there,

560
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:23.840
and that's where the child was laying
in the crib. And you know,

561
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.079
they they knew he wasn't want to
make it through the night. So

562
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:31.360
he got up and he heard a
voice saying, come and see. So

563
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:35.719
he walked to the doorway and looks
in. He didn't go in the room,

564
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.880
and he said, you know,
he cries and gave cry when he

565
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:42.760
told you in the story. He
couldn't he couldn't tell you what a great

566
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.280
faced he, you know, bring
chears through his nights. But he saw

567
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:50.800
the angels death and he said it
was huge. Said it's wing tips touched

568
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:53.840
either side of the of the room, which ten by ten room. I

569
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:59.760
mean just it's you know, wingtips
would have been longer than that. And

570
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.679
and he was tall, and he
was all bent over and said he reached

571
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:07.800
down like into the bassinette. He
couldn't see was reaching for and like he

572
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.840
cupped up water and it's in his
hand of course this you know, the

573
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:15.679
annel was going, but whatever it
was he cupped up, was going twice

574
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:20.760
and right. It just kind of
faded away and left. Now fast forward

575
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.599
to head to two thousan eleven.
My wife was dying. I had her

576
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:29.480
here at home, and I had
her set close to the window where she

577
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:31.840
could see out. She was telling
me about the man in white. She

578
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:36.760
kept seeing and when it first started
awful, he was out there by the

579
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.000
road. And then you know a
few days later, well he was coming

580
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:43.039
up the driveway. The third day, well he's at the bottom of the

581
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.480
stairs, and so forth. Well, the day that she died, she

582
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:49.840
had slipped into a coma, and
we'd done decided she was gonna die at

583
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.960
home. She done been to the
hospital. How many times they patched her

584
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.119
ups in her home. He goes
through all that stuff, and again that

585
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.760
was our decision. So the preacher
came by me and him a kind of

586
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.599
thought about it, like I say, she's she's fixed to go within an

587
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.960
hour. I happen to just glance
out the window, and there for a

588
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:13.199
second I seen I've seen the man
in white standing there to what would be

589
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.559
my front stoop, getting ready to
come to the door, and of course

590
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:20.519
she didn't look Angela. He just
looked like, I don't know, young

591
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:23.079
John Denver, Jong, Glenn Campbell, somebody like that, and just white

592
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:28.280
clothes, very clean cut, you
know, very attractive young man. I

593
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:30.360
seen him for a second. He
was gone. But you know, I

594
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.800
guess, I guess as angels come
in any form, and I guess whatever

595
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.800
they want you to see is what
you see. But I'm so sorry about

596
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.440
your wife. That just breaks my
heart. Yeah, she'd been sick a

597
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.360
long time. You know. It's
like, I don't begrudge death. I

598
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:49.000
know everybody's gonna die, but this
suffering stuff, I ain't got no part

599
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.519
with that. That's you know,
seemed like seemed like all my family members

600
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:57.639
they died along suffering death. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard, and

601
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.519
you're right, none of us get
out of here alive, none of us.

602
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.239
But it's hard for a spouse to
watch their other spouse kind of waste

603
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:07.239
away and die. But you you
hung with her and you loved her,

604
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:12.360
and that's a that's real special.
But and you got to experience that and

605
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.840
you know, with her, So
I think that's really interesting. You know.

606
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:19.920
Well, whenever she was telling me
about it, and I was saying,

607
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:22.880
well, you know, she's sick
her brain, like get the option,

608
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:27.199
and she's imagining this she's the one
painkiller until I've seen it for myself.

609
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:29.760
And it's like, you know,
all the time, I'm kind of

610
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:31.960
putting it back in my mind that
you know, this is all her imagination,

611
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:35.679
but it wasn't. It was real. That's what I was gonna say

612
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.800
earlier. Is like the guy that
had the sheep that were killed. You

613
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:43.480
know, somebody could come drive up
to my house and say, hey,

614
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.239
there's a there's a I don't know, I mean, think of anything something

615
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:52.719
along those lines, or you know
there's a big foot walking through these woods.

616
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.280
Come same. I don't know that
I would go, So I think

617
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:58.719
that's the I mean, I would
probably go, Man, I don't have

618
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:00.679
time to do that. I gotta
get to work. That's the difference between

619
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.679
probably you and me. As it
interests you and you'll go check it out,

620
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:07.719
like you said you were gonna you
spend an hour and a half away

621
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:12.440
from the site wanting to come back
and make the cast of that track,

622
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.119
and I would have never done that. I don't know if I'm just lazy

623
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:22.639
or I think I'll probably just try
to expend my energy on things that I

624
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:24.360
know, or that's just kind of
the way my mind works, you know,

625
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:28.800
maximize time all the time. Heck, if I just hauled in a

626
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:30.559
bunch of groceries about an hour ago, and I'm sitting there working in my

627
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.440
mind out how I can get every
one of these Walmart bags up in the

628
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.599
house in one trip. But you
know what I'm saying. I mean,

629
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:43.880
those things through your life, those
things have interested you and you see something

630
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:47.400
to it to where other people wouldn't, which goes to the way that people

631
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:52.960
think about these things. And there's
a lot of paranormal type stories out there

632
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:58.880
that probably you know, I'm an
inquisitive person. I guess if I were

633
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:02.119
to meet someone here locally that I
could sit down and talk to and get

634
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:06.599
to know them and maybe even experienced
some of the things they would, I

635
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:09.320
would probably do it. I'm just
never in that position. I'm just kind

636
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:14.599
of stuck here behind the microphone in
my YouTube life and my other life.

637
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:19.199
I'm just sitting here working on engineering
stuff. So what else is going on?

638
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:23.800
Anything going on recently that you've that
you've had an experience with the most

639
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:30.320
recent thing has happened here, I
guess was my my my girlfriend. Now

640
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:35.199
she had a little cat, so
strange dogs had come through here and they

641
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:39.079
killed her cats. Well, well
before we found the cat's body, she

642
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:43.239
went off in the woods with me
to call for this cat. She thought

643
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:45.960
the cat was lost in the woods. And normally you couldn't fare enough money

644
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.159
going in wood. She just wouldn't
do it. She said, in gats,

645
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:51.679
you don't want to part it.
But she's out there and she's hauled

646
00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:53.679
for the cat. She's hauling for
the cat, and then she finds the

647
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:58.440
cat's body the next day, you
know, and courses the cats dead,

648
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:00.679
and she makes me give us uneral
up there out in a new yard.

649
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:07.000
She's putting flowers out there, and
she flew the crying. And that night

650
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:12.679
the big Foot's come and they started
leaving her gifts, leaving her orange.

651
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.679
Just say they left her an orange
on the hood of her car. How

652
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:19.159
they knew her car many playoffs the
car. Me tell me they've been watching

653
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.199
and they knew exactly who she was, where it was, and they left

654
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:27.159
they left oranges twice for her,
and then the last the last time they

655
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:32.320
came, they had gotten you remember
them old blue metal coffee pots camp and

656
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.960
sets. Yeah, yeah, that's
somewhere. They had found one in blue

657
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:39.320
in blue metal coffee pots and they
had left that out there for on the

658
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:42.920
hood of the car. And that
was you know, kind of like,

659
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.119
oh, don't cry, you know
it was you know, we feel bad

660
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:47.960
for you. That's the last thing
that happened here. Did you say they

661
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:53.639
were bringing her oranges? Yeah,
we've got on orange grow probably oh about

662
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:57.719
a mile down the road from me, okay, And they went down there

663
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.599
and they pick, they pick oranges. They leave him on the hood of

664
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:05.480
her card. He did that,
Why twice they left orangs just and then

665
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.880
they they that coffee pot and a
half that day will leave us, Like

666
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:09.639
I think I could see more and
long enough three days. Do you live

667
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:15.480
out in a rural rural area?
It was a lot more rural whenever I

668
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:17.519
was a kid. It started to
build up. Now, but everything out

669
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:22.360
of here is cut into either five
or seven and a half acre tracks out

670
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:27.119
here. Yeah, okay. When
when I first moved out here, I

671
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.239
had like two or three neighbors.
Now they're they're all around me. Of

672
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:34.840
course, you know about the closest
houses and getting one the other about three

673
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.360
hundred feet from the center, one
at one five acre tractice the next.

674
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.960
So if you've had recent activities,
do you ever do you ever talk to

675
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.480
your neighbors about that? Do you
get in collaboration with them? Or similar

676
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:51.800
stories. I've got a young feller
there behind us. He decided he will

677
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:54.239
be in the chicken raising business.
And he built a nice big chicken pin

678
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:59.360
and he got cows, and he
got chickens and stuff. Within about a

679
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:04.239
week or two. He had bunch
of chickens this year, and I found

680
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.000
their wings all over my yard and
then in in the back of my property.

681
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:13.360
Apparently that when a big foot takes
a chicken, he takes it live

682
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.599
and where he's going, and then
where he gets where heal sound he eat,

683
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:20.039
that's where he eats him. So
I find a pile of like you

684
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.719
know, the wing tip part agent
b broke off in a pilot property.

685
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:29.599
So I went over there, and
I of course, like three months he

686
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:31.239
lost like one hundred twenty chickens.
I mean they were cleaning him out.

687
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:36.360
Of course, he's all the time
the raccoons or whatever, and I'm like,

688
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:38.480
buddy, raccoons on open up the
chicken pan, go in and get

689
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:42.440
a handful of the walk out and
then lock the pin behind them. They

690
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.320
don't do that, but you know, I could see right off. He

691
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:50.320
wasn't too open to the idea,
so I didn't mention it to him.

692
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:54.199
I had another fell. I had
his traval trailer here on my property.

693
00:43:54.440 --> 00:44:00.519
Well after the hurricane it happened here
in two thousand side a lot of people

694
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:02.800
have lost everything down, houses destroyed
and everything. I was one of them.

695
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:07.320
I had power and stuff right out
here to my barn. So we

696
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.039
put out a bunch of travel trailers, different people staying out there. Well,

697
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:15.440
I went out there one evening to
see my uncle Bill, and on

698
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.800
top of his trailer was a garden. Well he wasn't very big. He

699
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.599
was probably, I don't know,
sixteen seventeen inches tall. When it took

700
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.880
off the flight, it had wings. It spread its wings. They never

701
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.880
flapped its wings to the lift.
That's read I think alt of the Demonican.

702
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:32.920
It feeding off all the negative energy
for people had lost their homes,

703
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.440
didn't know what they were going to
do. I saw that, and I

704
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:40.639
saw I saw at the little people
one done too. They were I got

705
00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:46.559
a cowpond out here, and the
way the cowpond was dug their last a

706
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:51.559
little peninsula that comes out in the
side of it. And to the one

707
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:55.000
side of that peninsula, I saw
something playing and at first I thought it

708
00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:59.800
was birds like little wood ducks or
something splashing around. So I come out

709
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:02.079
around the curve of the peninsula where
I could see it, and I could

710
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:07.039
see it two little people. They
were less than twenty inches tall, and

711
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.840
their bodies were uh, they didn't
have any hair on them. They were

712
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:15.440
brown. They were uh, you
got you got grandchildren. So I'm sure

713
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:20.559
you've seen the Disney movie Moanna.
Yeah, okay, you know the the

714
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:25.920
demigogue Mallie Cow. He's built he's
almost as broad as he is tall.

715
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.440
Yeah, yeah, Now that that
was the figure. These these two little

716
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:35.800
people, they were one was male
and one was female and they was playing

717
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.400
there splash just like kids with splashing
the water, splashing one another stuff.

718
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:42.639
Well, as I got come around
to get a really close look at them,

719
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.639
but I had to go around this
peninsula. And once I come around

720
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:46.960
the peninsula, they were out in
my line of sight. By the time

721
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.760
I got around it, they were
gone. But here in Florida. These

722
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:57.480
califonds, they got muck bottoms in
them. So the water is somewhere between

723
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.320
the shade of iced tea and coffee. It's always black and nasty looking water.

724
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:04.920
Coals don't seem to mind it.
But if you go, if you

725
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.239
swimming in one, you come out
thirty your wings went in. But the

726
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:12.119
spot, the spot where they were
playing, like in about a four foot

727
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.480
circle, that water was so clean. It looked clean enough to drink.

728
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:17.039
I don't know what they've done in
that water where it was planned, but

729
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:22.159
it was just as clean. It
looked like, you know, store bought

730
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:24.639
drinking water, and that one looked
fun. When I tried to tell my

731
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:29.880
uncle about those two things and about
fool guard Oyle, they gave me a

732
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:34.039
stank guy and they didn't believe him. It so about about what, well,

733
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.400
what people will and won't believe.
It's you know, it was just

734
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:38.800
just like an aghbor behind me.
He'd accept anything, accept that. And

735
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:42.960
you know the people down the road, of course, I think I think

736
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.840
more of there's about money signed They
figured at too and get a bunch of

737
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.039
money out of the guy. Well, you said, the guy who lost

738
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.719
all his chickens. You didn't really
You didn't really broach the topic with him,

739
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.480
did you. Well, I I
kind of broached it, just like

740
00:46:55.719 --> 00:47:00.599
you know, he's talking about the
raccoons, and I'm like, you know,

741
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:02.920
racos don't open up a chicken pan
going there, get a hand below

742
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.159
the clothes pin. Mind, they
will do that. So and he's,

743
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.000
you know, trying to think of
everything, and you know, I could,

744
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:13.480
I could see he wasn't open to
it. It's like, uh,

745
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.639
I had another fellow. I brought
a travel trailer over here to be fixed.

746
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:24.119
I used to do some elect electronical
repair and his, uh, his

747
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.760
power and burner had burnt out on
it. So they brought over here from

748
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.920
a six powerd burn and the first
night. You know, the Sasquatches,

749
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:35.840
they're smart. They they recognize things. They know that usually where there's a

750
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.599
travel trailer, there's campers. Whether
there's campers, there's you know, cooler,

751
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.519
it's full of good Easton picnic.
What's this stuff? So I had

752
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.480
it parked over there and on the
front they had the gas bottles and they

753
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:50.000
had a cover over top of it. And I'm listening and I'm hearing anyh

754
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.360
over there, and he's trying to
lift that cover, see if there's food

755
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.480
or he's that cover jiggling them gas
bottles and stuff. It was dark.

756
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:59.480
I didn't shine a light. It
was as I've learned that you shine a

757
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.760
light, disappear quick. But yeah, I can go out there. It's

758
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:07.800
about they make a circuit here about
every two weeks. They'll show up three

759
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:09.679
or four days and they're going about
their you know, about their circuit.

760
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:13.679
I don't know. I don't know
how big their territory is, but you

761
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:16.159
know, I imagine it up in
an order and climates that you know,

762
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:21.760
when they they kind of follow the
seasons like uh well, like in that

763
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:27.239
that phase story they talk about about
the wood folks about how they they would

764
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:30.239
leave the area when the leaves turn, they go deeper back in the mountains.

765
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:31.880
Well, here in Florida, we
you know, we don't have any

766
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:37.480
We've only got two seasons here underwater, on fire. We don't snow or

767
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:42.639
anything talk about So I think they
just make a They just make circuits.

768
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:45.360
Like I say, I can I
can Almos sign it. And if I

769
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:49.199
sit out there on my back stoop, you know, when they're in town

770
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:54.440
or in the area, you can
hear the the the big owl who sound

771
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:59.440
like a four hundred pound hour About
there, you're hear a knock and response.

772
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:04.280
If you listened real close, you
can hear them. Like there's a

773
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:07.280
tree line about maybe one hundred and
twenty feet from my place. You can

774
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.199
hear them walk along that tree line. Then you know they're watching the house.

775
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:14.559
Sometimes late as night mung about two
three o'clock in the morning, you

776
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.480
hear them pat inside the house.
They've patted up high, so high they

777
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.599
I live in a manufactured home,
so the pat where they're patting, they've

778
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:25.079
got to be able to reach up, you know, eight they'd smackside the

779
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:30.400
house. That kind of thing I
had, well, I had a small

780
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.159
X in the backyard. I met
some juveniles that built it, and I

781
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:36.920
left it up there for a while, And finally one day I was out

782
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.679
doing something in the yard. The
X may out of two small maple trees.

783
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.039
They probably about it bigg around as
your wrist. They weren't very big.

784
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:47.719
They were just pull up out of
the ground and made X with the

785
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:51.719
roots up. One with the roots
found made X at it. So I

786
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:54.639
burned that X, oh man.
I made them mad with that. The

787
00:49:54.800 --> 00:50:00.519
next night they egged the back of
my house with bird eggs. Yeah,

788
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.280
they took about about four or five
different types of birds. I don't know

789
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.239
where all they got the eggs from
and just flattered the back of my house

790
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.280
with them. They probably though tendered
twelve eggs back side of my house.

791
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:15.199
If they hey, you know that
that was our eggs. They get mischievous,

792
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.360
don't they. Well, you know, you know that's that's probably a

793
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.519
pretty big food source for them.
I imagine they've gotten quite a bit trug

794
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:23.800
I imagine it a view and I
was built that egg. They probably got

795
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:29.320
bubbled that. I don't know,
like that that little one I had out

796
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:35.519
here in the front yard. I
had poured a driveway, concrete driveway up

797
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:40.159
to the house because mc gal friends
he was talking about Dracula's dirt punse,

798
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:44.639
So we poured that driveway. Well, when it was new, it was

799
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.199
pretty slick when we had a little
rains for them. And then I was

800
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:52.360
looking out there and the concrete was
wet and there was a little one.

801
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:55.039
He was probably about the side of
a toddler, about a two or three

802
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:59.400
year old, and he would run
and ski across like like he was ice

803
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.639
skating on that flick concrete. I
imagine he got into trouble for that too.

804
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:07.320
They ain't seen I would watch him
for two or three minutes after ice

805
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.960
skating. You know, it's like, you know, I wanted to film

806
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:13.760
him, but by the time you
walk out there with a camera, he's

807
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:16.039
gone. Anyway. Oh yeah,
like I've I've had a lot of people

808
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:19.119
at them. You know, well, why don't you put up trail cans.

809
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.440
Why don't you The minute you do
that, they stop interacting with They

810
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.159
won't. You know, it's like
it's like you're you're warding them off.

811
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:29.840
They don't want to interact with I
know I had I had put out marbles

812
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.159
and things like that, and you
know, they'd take the marbles or they'd

813
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:37.239
move them. I gotta like,
I'll take it. I'll stick a shovel

814
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.400
in the ground, or you know, I can't carry a machetey, I'll

815
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:43.639
stick a ma chetty in a certain
defense posts and go out there the next

816
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:45.639
day and it's been moving, stuck
into another fence post, so the shovel

817
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:50.599
has been he was leaning head down, they'd be turned up the head up

818
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:55.320
that kind. But all this activity
around your house and maybe you're not close

819
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:59.880
to all your neighbors, I'm not. I've got people who live all around

820
00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:02.159
me. I don't even know who
they are, and I should, but

821
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:06.599
I'm so busy I don't. I
just don't have time to go meet I

822
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.760
know some of them. But my
question is, you don't have anybody there

823
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:15.239
that sees these things like you do, or can share stories like you do

824
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.440
with, you know, amongst yourselves. I know people that have seen things,

825
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.159
but trying to get them to talk
about it's like trying to pull teeth,

826
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.559
you know. It's like, uh, I know, like like some

827
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:30.159
of the so some of the people
I've I've talked to, you know,

828
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:35.079
it's like I've got I've got some
neighbors down the road and their property backs

829
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:39.280
up into a bigger pastor field,
so they're probably forty acres in that block,

830
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:44.320
and you know, there's there's really
nothing on, and you know they'll

831
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:46.960
see something, you know, running
across the back or whatever, but you

832
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:50.519
know they won't they won't call it
by name. You know, I see

833
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:52.719
something run across or what it looked
like, well, it kind of looked

834
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:57.159
like a man, it wasn't a
big well I'm not saying that, but

835
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.400
yeah, they see stuffs, will
talk about they won't give the name.

836
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:04.280
And then you've got other people out
here that you know, if if,

837
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.920
if what they say is true.
It's like, uh, I've had a

838
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:12.280
few guys tell me that you know, they've seen, you know, the

839
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:15.079
dog man. You know, they're
like, I know, I know.

840
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.880
One guy told me he went up
took up in northern Florida, went up

841
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.000
in the bear hunt, and he
said he seen he seen the dog man

842
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:27.360
up there. But again, these
are the same guys that I've been hunting

843
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:31.239
with that you know, a killer
uh a little two points And by the

844
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:34.840
time and they told the story,
it was, you know, world record

845
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:38.400
twelve point kind of thing. I
don't know, I know, I know

846
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:42.920
if you like that. I wanted
to say a couple of things or give

847
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:45.000
you a chance to talk about now
You've sent me a couple of stories.

848
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:52.280
One was the Mackie's and the Fay
and the other the other was about the

849
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:58.039
Rattlesnake Cannery and Harold Keane and it
was I love that story. That was

850
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:02.119
so good. But you uh,
you have so many that you've written and

851
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:05.920
you've sent them out to other people. Talk about talk about some of the

852
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:10.840
other channels you've sent them. Sent
the stories to one American cryptis. One

853
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:15.800
time was about a story that was
told to me by selling M. A.

854
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:17.719
J. Bullock. He was he
run a sawmill down here. I

855
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:21.960
worked for him for a while whenever
I was rushed out of high school.

856
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:23.320
One of the best jobs I've ever
had out of the sun. And you

857
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:27.920
know, we were out there cutting
down trees, cutting, you know,

858
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:31.440
cutting timber and the lumber. But
he told me, or see, he

859
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:36.519
didn't believe in the big food,
but he told me about claim that he

860
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:40.079
had gotten there and outside of his
home in Purpose, Mississippi. It was,

861
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:44.280
you know, a bunch of old
growth timber and stuff that he'd gotten

862
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:46.480
to claim board. And he said
the guy that the guy either didn't know

863
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:50.719
what it was worth or you know, he just didn't care. So he

864
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:53.039
got it like a rock bottom prices. So he went in there to stake

865
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:57.880
his claim. And the first day
they went in there and there was trees

866
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.360
dragged across the roads. They had
been to day cut the trees out.

867
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:05.280
They finally got you know, the
sawyers down there and were cutting and you

868
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:07.559
know, they were getting rocks throwed
at them. They got one guy got

869
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:12.559
his nose broke. Somebody chunk chunk
of wood at him and he run in

870
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:15.960
the face and bust his nose.
This stuff was was messed with. They

871
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:20.000
had a little he described it like
a like a like a D three doz

872
00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:22.280
or. It's a it's a small
track machine. And they used for a

873
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:28.079
skidder to pull logs out of the
out of the woods with. And something

874
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:32.159
had pushed it sideways and not knocked
the track off of it. And of

875
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:36.480
course by now he's thinking that,
you know, somebody wants to jump his

876
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:38.519
claim and cut the timber, and
they wasn't gonna run him off. You

877
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:42.360
know, Yead, you had guys
quitting every day because they you know,

878
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:45.199
they getting scared of being rocks throwed
at him. And of course that one

879
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:46.920
boy had his nose broke. You
know, he even told him that I

880
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:50.960
ain't coming back, said there's boogers
in the woods. Of course, you

881
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.559
know, ajaj Aj always thought it
was, you know, somebody trying to

882
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:59.280
sabotage his operation. But the last
time he went out there, he went

883
00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:01.480
out there with guns and stuff.
He went out there early in the morning,

884
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:05.559
thinking eagle to catch these people out
there, and messed around, you

885
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:08.840
know, yet a drum, a
druma diesel fuel was upban didn't turned over.

886
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:13.159
I mean stuff that he would take
that well like blah lah like that,

887
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:16.880
like that skitter that got turned sideway, you know, a farm tractor

888
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:22.119
movement. The human being couldn't move
that push it sideways like like like it

889
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:25.840
was pushed. And like the digel
drums. They had their fuel men.

890
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:30.000
You know, I fIF fits five
gallon druma a diesel fuels. Pretty heavy

891
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:34.360
thing to pick up and throw.
So you know they limped up out of

892
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:38.280
there. Now I checked on going
the Google Earth where that piece of ground

893
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:44.039
was. They No, nobody never
did cut that piece of ground. You

894
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:45.679
know, it's like so, yeah, those trees are still there looking at

895
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:49.360
Google Earth and there didn't nobody ever
go in there. And you know saw

896
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:54.360
so saw Milan's a big part of
the livelihood Louisiana and Mississippi, especially that

897
00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:58.840
old growth timber you're doing about,
you know, pine trees that two men

898
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:01.880
can't reach around, right, you
know, crime crime stuff. Didn't way

899
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:05.719
ever cut that. I don't know
if they all got scared out or what

900
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:08.760
the deal was. We just had
a guy clear cut a forty acre track

901
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:12.920
right next to me, and I
went out there and talk to him,

902
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.159
and of course I had to ask
him. I said, y'all ever getting

903
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:19.280
way back here in these woods and
stuff, do y'all ever see anything strange?

904
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:21.760
He goes, oh, yeah,
yeah, we see some weird stuff.

905
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.800
And I said anything about bigfoot?
And he goes, I'll tell you

906
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:29.480
about that sometime if I run into
you at the restaurant. But I got

907
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.519
to get back to work now,
so I've already. He was telling me.

908
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:35.760
I think these But the point is, these guys at work in the

909
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:39.320
timber industry, I think they run
into that stuff a lot. I'm sure

910
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:43.480
they do. Uh, you know, it's just it's just like hunters,

911
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:45.679
you know, I don't know,
I don't know what the guys that you

912
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:51.000
know, that don't even believe will
go out and and and they'll go hunting

913
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:53.039
and they'll be in, you know, in the middle of field field dressing

914
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:58.000
a deer whatever, and come back
and you know their killer is gone,

915
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:00.239
or they'll shoot one, they'll see
it off and before they can get to

916
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:04.599
it, it's gone. It's just
spirit and it's get's close by. I

917
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:07.079
mean, here, everybody's got this
idea. You got to be in the

918
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.039
woods to see him. I think
that they're a whole lot closer than people

919
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:15.280
think they're just like in my little
area here, it's like, yeah,

920
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:17.519
you know, there's there's steers here. There there's hog here. You know,

921
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:21.960
there's there's plenty for them to eat. You know, a lot of

922
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:25.079
these places like cleared off fashion land
and stuff. Every once in a while

923
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:30.400
the big foot will take it upon
himself that he's gonna kill some coyotes.

924
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:34.039
I don't know why. At first
I thought that maybe they did it,

925
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:37.079
you know, a piece of ranchers. Well, if the kyote, you

926
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:38.159
know, if they come in here
is trying to kill coyotes, in might

927
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:40.719
find up. And then I thought, well, maybe he's a ride of

928
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:45.840
passage. I don't know, maybe
maybe when a young bigfoot decides he's a

929
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:49.360
man now, he's gonna go out
and kill the largest predator he can come

930
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:53.079
across. But that night I heard
him killing him coyotes and the most ungodly

931
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:57.719
thing you ever want to hear the
animals japing and screaming. They had went

932
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.559
into I guess, a whole pack
up and they just like grab them up

933
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:04.840
by the leg or by the tail, just beat their bodies against the ground

934
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:07.719
and then they laid them out like
they were, you know, when they

935
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:09.000
were on the show. The next
morning, when I got down there,

936
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:13.760
there was eight up laid out in
a rug and their bones were broken and

937
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:16.519
skulls cracked in and you could see
spots in the ground where they just you

938
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:19.320
know, they just beat them on
the ground. I don't know if they

939
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:22.159
were hitting them with clubs or what, but it was like, you know,

940
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:24.599
a big show thing. And I've
been in spots two, like on

941
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:28.599
farther down the road where you find
three or four of them hanging on a

942
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:31.239
bob marpin. It's like, you
know, this is a sign, you

943
00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:34.679
know, looking at the look at
out big and bad. I am.

944
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:37.280
I killed these these eight coyotes,
you know, with nothing but a stick,

945
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:40.920
that kind of thing. Do you
think it's a competition thinge competition for

946
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:45.119
food? Maybe I don't think so, because I mean, they really aren't

947
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:50.719
the same class. I mean it's
like, well, you take you take

948
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:53.159
a big foot down here, and
I have I have run in, I

949
00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:58.599
have run into this. I've actually
seen the aftermath of it. They'll take

950
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:01.320
and they'll pull up a young fine
dream. It's probably eight or ten feet

951
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:06.159
long. Ship the branches off of
it. They'll run out into a herd

952
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:10.119
of hogs and they'll start slapping them
and they'll smack and break their legs.

953
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:14.920
You'll cripple up many of them as
if possible, and then go back.

954
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:17.599
It's like it's like keeping fishing alive. Well, they'll be all these crippled

955
01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:21.320
hogs out there and they'll go back
and you know, kill them as they

956
01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:24.360
need them kind of thing. I
know, guys that'll run up onto a

957
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:29.119
herd of hogs and and you know, maybe eight of them and got got

958
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:31.400
their front legs broke, and they're
all, you know, just kind of

959
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:35.079
wallowing out there, you know,
waiting for whatever just come back and get

960
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:37.559
them. And then they're smart too. It's like a lot of people around

961
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:40.920
here. They hog hunt from up
from a swamp leg and they'll be out

962
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:44.519
there on the buggy and they'll be
out hog hunting and they'll be going down

963
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:46.840
the track. Well, the big
foot are smart. They'll get off to

964
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:50.639
the side of the track and they'll
find the spot, you know, like

965
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:52.960
a choke point where he talks you
make a breaking you know, can go

966
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:57.920
through a spot where that buggy can't
go, and that's that's where they'll be

967
01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:00.320
waiting. They'll be waiting, runt
there at that check point and just club

968
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:07.119
them up some hugs, then clean
them out. And I think you're right.

969
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:09.800
I don't think Coyoty and the Bigfoot
are on the same class. Cowdies

970
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:13.719
eat small game, they don't eat. You know. One of the big

971
01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:17.159
fallacies is that cowodies are killing deer
by the thousands. They're not. They'll

972
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:21.800
take a fawn, but they unless
it's a pack of them. They can't

973
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:24.400
take down a full grown deer.
One of them can't. And so yeah,

974
01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:29.159
I doubt it's competition. That's interesting. Well, like I said,

975
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:34.559
we're coming up past an hour.
We talked about so many things before we

976
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.159
got on the air here, and
is there anything we left out you wanted

977
01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:40.840
to talk about. I don't know, Cam, there's so many of them.

978
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:45.039
I could come up with. The
One thing that they got me the

979
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:52.159
most, I guess is whenever you
come to an area or a story where

980
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:55.440
you've got people that have actually seen
it, you know, I've actually gone

981
01:01:55.480 --> 01:02:00.320
through it, and then they hear
them retell it. I mean, it's

982
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.599
just just like like like me trying
to talk some of this stuff, but

983
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:07.000
there's so many things you can't explain, you know. And then you go

984
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:08.920
to a chat room and he say, well, this is what I've seen.

985
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:13.320
What could it be? You've got
some people got that's what any different

986
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:17.000
ideas about it, be it ghosts
or chupacabres or or whatever it is.

987
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:22.440
Ye. So, but when whenever
I get a story from somebody, it's

988
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:25.079
like, it's like the story I
got, I got a back team that

989
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:29.360
was told to me by some of
the jumps. You know, they're there

990
01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:31.920
an old fa family here, and
I vet these stories, you know,

991
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:36.280
I go back and I look,
well, this is where it happened,

992
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:37.880
and and and and you know,
this is where the house would have been.

993
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:42.159
And you know you met him on
Google or well that's six miles and

994
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:45.880
it's you know, and he there's
the cannery and yes, here's here.

995
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:49.000
Here's the old clippings where he was
advertising that, you know, live snakes

996
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:51.719
and worth more in the dead snakes. And so you're trying to vet all

997
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:54.480
the stuff before you before you present
it. But like to the story of

998
01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:58.760
the Fay, in my mind,
it was all live sales U till I've

999
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:02.519
seen until I've seen him, and
it's like, man's this this had to

1000
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:07.320
him been real, right, you
know? Davis just a wealth of information

1001
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:13.599
on not just Bigfoot, but the
story about the guy from the mental institution

1002
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:17.480
was fascinating. Whatever happened to that
guy? Did he just fade away?

1003
01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:21.320
Did they release him? What happened? Did he go to prison? That's

1004
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:23.679
the thing. I mean, they
wouldn't have caught him if the guy hadn't

1005
01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:28.159
had the silent along. And when
he when he left us, there was

1006
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:30.599
no sign of escape. I've got
no idea how he got out of that

1007
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:34.480
building. You know, we're we're
a security mental institution. You've got to

1008
01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:37.119
have a key to get in and
get out. So how he got out

1009
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:39.000
with nobody seeing him? You know, where did he go from there?

1010
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:42.760
Because he was kind of out,
you know, in the middle of nowhere.

1011
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:45.679
If he had if he had somehow
contacted somebody pre arranging to be picked

1012
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.079
up or what you know, and
and when they picked him up, he

1013
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:52.400
had no ID, he didn't have
no money, he didn't have none of

1014
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:54.239
that when he left. I don't
know, of course, there ain't no

1015
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:59.159
telling. He may have statues berries
here and there with fake IDs and money

1016
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:02.840
and everything else. That is the
makings of a novel if you ask me.

1017
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:06.760
I mean, that's an eighty thousand
word novel you could do. Somebody

1018
01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:11.480
could take that idea and just run
with it and keep all the facts in

1019
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:15.119
there and then expound on what he
did after after he left. And did

1020
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:18.519
you say that was in two thou
eleven? No, that was much earlier

1021
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:23.400
than that, wasn't it. Yeah, that would have been what about eighty

1022
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:27.679
seven or eighty eight? I believe? Okay, was he a young guy?

1023
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.159
Then? No, he was,
like I said, he was probably

1024
01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:32.159
of course, it's it's hard to
tell. Like I said, he had

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01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:36.000
woman in faces like Denzel Washington,
he could have been fifty or he could

1026
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:40.880
have been you know, thirty or
anywhere in between. Right, very clean

1027
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:44.000
side. It's like, you know, here we are in a mental institution

1028
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:47.719
and you have a patient who's acting
out. I mean they're they're fixing to

1029
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:51.639
gets physical and violent, and I've
seen him just look at him, say

1030
01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:58.440
now, you settle down now,
and they just go quiet. You know.

1031
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:00.920
It's like it's like, you know, you have you have an institution

1032
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:04.199
like that, you have bullies,
you know, why bully him? Yeah,

1033
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.519
they didn't get close to him.
They were just you you could see.

1034
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:10.920
It's like if he came walking down
the hallway. Of course, you

1035
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:14.199
know, he was very humble,
you know, like did you did you

1036
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:17.880
ever see the Book of Eli?
Yes, okay, this is that's the

1037
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:21.400
kind of guy he reminded you of. Okay, he was just very humble,

1038
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:26.320
very clean cut, but you can
imagine at any time that he would

1039
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:29.760
get you some kind of chop psych
to just knock you out. That's the

1040
01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:31.719
way the people treated him. It's
like, you know, even even the

1041
01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:35.079
big christ guys who would reach out
and grab a staff member and try and

1042
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:41.199
chill them, they gave him a
wide birthday walk down the Hollywood. They

1043
01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:44.239
they knew he wasn't a guy to
be messed with. I'm laughing, it's

1044
01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:47.119
not funny, but that's kind of
my response to just things that just blow

1045
01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:49.800
me away. All Right, Dave, I think we're gonna wind this up.

1046
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:53.639
We're past an hour. It's gonna
be my longest interview, but that's

1047
01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:56.760
worth every minute of it. I
think I wanted to thank you very much

1048
01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:00.440
for being willing to come on.
You're you're such an interesting guy, such

1049
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:02.599
a good writer. And thank you. That's about all I can say.

1050
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:08.320
You're such a great host. It's
been my pleasure. But I'm horrible at

1051
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:11.320
this, but anyway, it's fun
to talk to you, listen to everybody.

1052
01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:14.760
Thanks for watching the video. I
guess we'll see you guys on the

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01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:15.719
next one. Thank you.