WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:19.559 Thank you for listening to Pictures Media Radio. Welcome to Policy and Rights, 2 00:00:21.160 --> 00:01:03.200 the show about the government, Policy and human rights. Welcome back to Policy 3 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:06.280 and right here in Depictions of Media Radio, I'm your host, Michael Kloggs. 4 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:15.519 Of almost four hundred and fifty thousand people have been fortunately displaced from Rafa 5 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:22.200 in the past week, according to you, an agency for Palestine refugees. 6 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:30.519 A picture released the agency showed empty streets in southern Gaza. Rafa has been 7 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:37.959 a target of Israeli airstrikes for months and as part of the country's retaliatory attack 8 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:48.920 on Gaza over the deadly Hamas attacks from October seventh, but the city had 9 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:56.000 yet to see a ground offensive. Last week, the Israeli government said its 10 00:01:56.040 --> 00:02:02.760 forces would start targeting activity in eastern Rapa, telling thousands of Palestinians to evacuate 11 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:10.560 the area as Israeli tanks reportedly pushed deeper into Raffa. Fighting has also been 12 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:27.719 reported close to the European Hospital in southern Gaza. Okay so, and of 13 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:35.000 course as a result, humanitarian effort and life saving efforts have been blocked. 14 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:46.680 And we did report yesterday about in Rafa that that there was a UN truck 15 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:59.520 that was attacked with one fatality. So UH, there is a statement from 16 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:13.520 the from Lebanon with concerns about what what is actually happening in uh In of 17 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:20.599 course UH Gaza and how the fighting could cross borders and and UH the Lebanese 18 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:29.479 foreign minister spoke with the BBC about it and hopefully we have a report on 19 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:46.000 that. Okay, Lebanon fears that intensification of the Israeli Usal hesbalt offensive and 20 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:55.520 UH Lebanon is worried about UH Israel Israel might intense sofi It's offensive against Lebanon 21 00:03:55.599 --> 00:04:08.120 based on the Shia Polletin group Hasbela and the country's foreign minister has said as 22 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:18.720 the conflict between the two sides escalate along the border and Israel and hesbelav have 23 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:28.079 exchanged nearly daily strikes and counter strikes since October, when the hasbel launched rockets 24 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:35.600 at Israel in support of the Palestinian Palestinians in Gaza and the day after the 25 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:48.240 deadly Hamas attack on Israel. Violence has killed civilians, Israeli soldiers, Hesbel 26 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:56.959 of fighters, led to displace tens of thousands of people on both sides of 27 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:10.639 the border. Okay, so a speech from Anthony Blincoln, a US lawyer 28 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:19.839 and diplomat in Ukraine. Blincoln sought to reassure Ukrainians with direct to camera message 29 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:28.639 you are not alone. We are with you today and we will stay by 30 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:34.199 your side. Some other quotes. He noted his visit was at a critical 31 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:43.839 moment amid fresh offensive, which he said had been aided by North Korea, 32 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:55.759 Iran and China. He described the Ukraine's recent mobilization reforms as a difficult decision, 33 00:05:56.120 --> 00:06:06.680 but necessary one, and he also crediting uh the their ability to deny 34 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:15.399 Vladimir putin his goal of erasing Ukraine from the map B. Lincoln said the 35 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:25.519 US would continue to stave off that possibility, including by bringing the Ukraine closer 36 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:35.519 to two and then into NATO. So B Lincoln trying to give the Ukraine 37 00:06:35.920 --> 00:07:00.240 the Ukrainian people some glimmer of hope in their campaign against Russia. And let's 38 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:08.879 see in on the Donald Trump front, of course, Michael Cohen, he 39 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:21.319 had his day in court, was testifying against Donald Trump and describing some of 40 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:38.360 the things that he did for his former boss, and mister Trump wasn't it 41 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:45.680 doesn't doesn't seem to be exactly too happy about how the court case is actually 42 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:54.519 going. Mister Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen, as he spoke uh immediately 43 00:07:55.439 --> 00:08:03.639 about wiring one hundred and thirty million dollars to adult actress Stormy Daniels. This 44 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:13.439 is one of the many times he operated at the direct direction of, and 45 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:24.920 on the behalf of mister Trump, he testified. The President pleaded not guilty 46 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:31.159 guilty defenity charges against him for the hush money trial that's going on all together. 47 00:08:31.559 --> 00:08:39.240 Mister Trump faces thirty four counts of business fraud for allegedly reimbursing Michael Combe 48 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:48.720 for the payment through transactions masked as legal expenses. Miss Daniels, in exchange 49 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:54.600 for the money, agreed to keep quiet about allegedly having sex with mister Trump 50 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:03.279 while he was still married. He has denied ever having sex with Mss Daniels, 51 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:16.240 and the prosecutor charged that payment made in the final days of the twenty 52 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:24.840 sixteen presidential campaign and the subsequent attempt to conceal by falsifying records qualifies as election 53 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:37.759 interference. Of course, according still to this BBC report, when the personal 54 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:52.080 fixer met with mister Trump and at his top financial officer Alan Weiselberg between the 55 00:09:52.120 --> 00:10:01.919 presidential election and inauguration. Later talking to Cohen, Weiselberg explain to Cohen in 56 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:09.559 front of their boss that he would be paid back in twelve astallments of thirty 57 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:18.000 five thousand, which would be accounted for as a retainer for legal services. 58 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:24.679 Mister Trump approved it, Cohen said, and this is going to be one 59 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:33.519 heck of a ride in DC. So some of the latest from the trial 60 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:43.519 in testimony that has happened in New York with mister Trump being on trial for 61 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:52.320 business fraud. So we're going to move forward, and we're going to hear 62 00:10:52.399 --> 00:11:03.159 from the United Nations on Libya and what has actually come about from the International 63 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:11.039 Court of Justice with resolutions, and how things can move forward for Libya and 64 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:18.360 what has come forward for Libya as in the ways of progress. We're going 65 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:30.279 to hear a after some you'll hear some clips from the UN Security Council meeting 66 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:39.200 where they were discussing Libya, and you'll hear a brief statement about from the 67 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:50.799 Security Council as there is a three minute stakeout as a discussed some of the 68 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:54.879 victories in the progress. We're also going to hear from the United Nations Press 69 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.480 floor. As they're going to talk one about Libya, they're also going to 70 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:03.200 talk about eight they're going to talk about and other issues around. Of course, 71 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:09.679 Palestine is also going to be on that particular thing that they're going to 72 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:18.120 talk about. So why don't we move forward to the UNANE Security Council as 73 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:48.039 they discuss what progress in Libya. The ninety thousand, six hundred and the 74 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:58.960 twenty fourth meeting of the Security Council, it's called toward them. The provision 75 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:13.519 a legenda for this meeting is the situation in Libya. In accordance with the 76 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:22.480 Rule thirty seven of the Council's Provisional Rules of Procedure, I invite the Representative 77 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:35.759 of Libya to participate in this meeting. So decided, in accordance with the 78 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:43.919 Rule thirty nine of the Council's Provisional Rules of Procedure, I invite mister Karim 79 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:50.759 Khan, Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, to participate in this meeting. 80 00:13:52.679 --> 00:14:07.679 The so decided the Security Council will now begin its consideration of Item two of 81 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:24.159 the agenda. I now give the floor to Prosecutor Karim Khan, Mister President, 82 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:31.120 Distinguished Delegates, it's a great privilege to have the opportunity once again to 83 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:37.559 brief the Security Council this morning. I would like to express my thanks to 84 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:43.759 my brother, who's excellency the Permanent Representative of Libya to the United Nations, 85 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:48.480 for his attendance, Mister President, excellencies, it was two and a half 86 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:54.559 years ago when I first had the opportunity to brief the Council in relation to 87 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:05.360 the Libya situation and the remarks through the lens of Libya. I called for 88 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:11.240 what in effect was a paradigm shift, for a new and constructive, new 89 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:18.840 dynamic with this Council. I emphasized to all members of the Council on that 90 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:26.480 day that I would prioritize referrals to the Court made by the Security Council. 91 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:35.399 I would do my utmost to ensure more resources were given to Security Council referred 92 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:41.120 situation. And I also expressed the view that, in my respectful opinion, 93 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:46.039 for too long the situation in Libya and also Darfore had been allowed to drift, 94 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:54.039 and I was committed to use my best efforts with the excellent colleagues that 95 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:58.960 work in the office to change things, to bring a new dynamic and to 96 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:04.399 give impactful, credible results that we could show to the people of Libya, 97 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:08.159 the victims in Libya, and also to the Security Council. And it was 98 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:17.159 six months after that initial briefing that I outlined and presented a renewed strategy in 99 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:22.080 relation to Libya. I detailed four key lines of inquiry that we would take 100 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:27.799 forward in order to deliver meaningfully, and I set out publicly benchmarks that would 101 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:34.960 be applied to our work so we could collectively measure progress being made towards justice 102 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:40.799 and accountability and the rule of law, and we could also candidly discuss challenges 103 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:45.879 that we could address together. It's my respectful view that over the last eighteen 104 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:52.919 months we have indeed reinvigorated this work and we have set a basis for the 105 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:59.320 successful realization of the objectives I set out in the strategic vision I detailed in 106 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:03.840 April to twenty twenty two. And whilst as an office of the Court, 107 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:11.519 I can't I am constrained in detailing all the progress that's been made, I 108 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:18.519 can say that we have made strong progress in line with this renewed strategy in 109 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:22.920 the last six months alone, as reflected in the report that we've lodged with 110 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:32.960 the Secretariat. The Libya Unified Team has completed eighteen missions in three geographic areas. 111 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:37.119 They have collected more than eight hundred pieces of evidence, including video and 112 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:45.160 audio material. They've taken more than thirty statements, interview statements, screening statements, 113 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:53.039 and we've made significant progress in relation to the twenty fourteen twenty twenty period 114 00:17:53.640 --> 00:18:00.599 in terms of alleged crimes in detention centers. In that period, we've continued 115 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:07.960 to provide concrete, tangible and meaningful support in relation to national proceedings involving crimes 116 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:11.400 against migrants, and only in March. At the end of March, I 117 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:18.440 hosted members of the Joint Investigative Team at headquarters in the Hague, in which 118 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.839 we and the team further detailed how we could achieve synergies to make sure the 119 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:30.279 crimes against these most vulnerable individuals are properly investigated and prosecuted. Our work is 120 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:36.359 moving forward with increased speed and with a focus on trying to deliver on the 121 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:42.079 legitimate expectations of the Council and on civilians, on the people of Libya. 122 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:48.960 And today, in this my sixth report to the Council, the twenty seventh. 123 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:57.200 In total, I think that we have a landmark moment by announcing a 124 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:06.039 roadmap relation to what could be the completion of the investigative stage in terms of 125 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:15.599 Resolution nineteen seventy. In presenting this roadmap that's detailed with greater specificity in the 126 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:19.599 report, I want to be clear. We're not cutting and running. We're 127 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:26.960 not finding a way to exit stage left. We're not gradually foreshadowing a curtailing 128 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:30.400 of our work, a lack of focus, energy or vigor. We're not 129 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:37.039 saying that we can't deliver. That's something I professionally cannot accept. It's something 130 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:41.079 I think the Council should not and would not accept, because you have referred 131 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.440 a very serious matter to the International Criminal Court under Chapter seven, realizing that 132 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:53.279 justice was essential for the people of Libya. Rather, the roadmap I have 133 00:19:53.720 --> 00:20:00.200 detailed in the report represents, I think, a genuine, a dynamic vision 134 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:06.599 for the fulfillment of the mandate that you've intrusted to us. It details a 135 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:11.640 focus set of activities that will implement God Willing in the next eighteen months and 136 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:18.079 beyond to significantly expand the impact of our action in the Libya situation. And 137 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:22.279 the roadmap is a collective work. We are not the only operator on the 138 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:26.599 international level. We have to work shoulder to shoulder with the authorities in Libya, 139 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:30.880 with the Council, with all state parties, and there are positives. 140 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:37.279 Only last month, my Deputy Prosecutor Nazad Shamim, the Deputy Prosecute of the 141 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:45.720 Court with responsibility for the Libya situation, had a successful mission to TRIPI had 142 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:52.839 a productive meeting with the Attorney General and also met with different civil society actors 143 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:57.480 in Tripoli and also in Tunis. In the last reporting period, more than 144 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:04.039 twenty five search engaged between my office and civil sidey organization, a Libyan civil 145 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:11.519 society in particular, have taken place. And we've also continued dialogue with the 146 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:17.359 Council through working level briefings last month outlining and trying to flesh out and give 147 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:22.480 more details as to the proposed roadmap. And based upon that I present, 148 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:29.920 respectfully two key phases that are detailed in the written document. The first is 149 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:37.119 the intention, the hope, the target to complete the investigative stage from now 150 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:44.319 and by the end of twenty twenty five. That's the investigative stage of the 151 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:45.880 situation. Of course, it's not going to be easy. It's going to 152 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:52.799 require cooperation. Candor, I can do attitude from my office but also from 153 00:21:52.960 --> 00:22:00.400 the authorities in Libya. But that period hopefully will give rise to even more 154 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:07.880 additional applications for warrants of arrest and also greater support by my office to national 155 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:14.319 proceedings in Libya. Complementarity is a foundation of the Rome Statute, but burden 156 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:22.440 sharing is linked to that principle of complementarity. Trying to understand from the Libyan 157 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:29.400 colleagues, the Libyan Attorney General where their problems are and trying to forge ahead 158 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:34.559 with this principle that the rule of law can be effective and must be applied 159 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:41.640 equally. In addition and linked to that, we hope and again it requires 160 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:45.960 work, it requires focus, but we have trying to improve and reinvigorate our 161 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:52.680 approach to fugitive tracking to arrests, and with the help of Registry colleagues, 162 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:59.839 the aim would be to give effect to arrest warrants and to have at least 163 00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:07.680 the initial proceedings start before the court in relation to at least one warrant by 164 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:15.720 the end of next year. The second part is judicial and complementarity because following 165 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:21.400 if that goes to plan following the end of twenty twenty five. We want 166 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:26.240 to move posture and try to help and support Libya. That can start now 167 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:34.000 technical assistance, burden sharing trainings, know how, use of artificial intelligence technology 168 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:40.640 and technical skills of building these types of cases, and focus again with Libyan 169 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:45.440 colleagues on arrest and tracking. And in parallel to all of that, we 170 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:55.000 want to deepen on every level our relationship with the Libyan authorities under complementarity. 171 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:59.960 It can't just be with the Attorney General and the Deputy Prosecute or with myself 172 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:07.359 and other individuals. It needs to penetrate all strata of Libyan authorities and they 173 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:12.240 should know that they have in the Office of Prosecutor men and women that are 174 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:18.240 not driven by any political imperative or interest, but are really trying to give 175 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:23.039 life and give purpose to the principle of equality before the law and the value 176 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:30.519 of the lives that have been lost in Libya to date. Crucially, the 177 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:36.160 roadmap, I think is something that the victims of Libya can look to as 178 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:42.160 not hot air, not spin, but something impactful and meaningful to advance their 179 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:48.200 right to justice. And I think it presents an opportunity to meaning meaningfully deliver 180 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:57.680 on Resolution nineteen seventy that you passed in twenty eleven, but that is not 181 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:06.680 a given because we need continued increased support from Libya. We need to walk 182 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:11.920 shoulder to shoulder together, not for our own individual interest or the interests of 183 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:15.000 the ICC or for a government, but for the interests of humanity and the 184 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:22.160 people of Libya. And I think recently we've had very positive news. Multiple 185 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:26.720 entry visas have been issued by the Libyan authorities that allowed my Deputy prosecutor to 186 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:33.119 go last month. There was missions also in December last year. Forensic experts 187 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:38.680 also went last year. The meeting between Deputy Prosecutor and ASA Shamim Khan and 188 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:45.240 his Excellency are subdecal sword the Attorney General, I think was extremely important, 189 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:51.359 particularly with regard to burdens sharing and being candid in terms of what we can 190 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:55.799 do and the mutual roles of the authorities and the ICC, and starting and 191 00:25:55.839 --> 00:26:00.920 deepening a dialogue that will strengthen not only the rule of law, but hopefully 192 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:06.799 we can work and help strengthen together the Attorney General's office as well, if 193 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:11.640 that is something the Libyan authority wish to avail themselves of that cooperation and technical 194 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:18.720 assistance. We anticipate in the next period there will be further missions between my 195 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:25.880 members of my office to Tripoli. I think there's enthusiasm. I don't think 196 00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:30.680 that's pitching it too high of our opening and office in Tripoli. I think 197 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.680 that will help. Complementarity, will help the investigations, it will help the 198 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:42.359 discharge of Resolution nineteen seventy and the Roman Statute obligations, and so plenty of 199 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:48.440 positive news given what I said previously on the difficulties caused by the lack of 200 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.759 visas. In addition to the meeting with the Attorney General, it's only right, 201 00:26:52.799 --> 00:27:00.559 mister President, if I can also applaud and thank positively his Excellency desired 202 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:04.880 Es s Dam, the Ambassador of Libya to the Kingdom of the Netherlands. 203 00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:11.880 I think his arrival has assually in also increased candor, partnership and dialogue that 204 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:17.200 he's being felt in terms of the cooperation, and I wish to applaud him 205 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:26.880 and the Libyan authorities for that change. But to march forward, it does 206 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:36.279 require solutions, not problems. To every solution that is presented, this is 207 00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:38.400 a choice. It's a mindset also from my office and from the Libyans. 208 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:45.359 The world is very imperfect. The law has some fundamental requirements that can't be 209 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:52.440 air brushed away or diluted, but it can be a solution to problems that 210 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:57.759 exist. And in my first briefing to the Council on this situation, I 211 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:04.279 hoped, I prayed, I intimated that there was an opportunity that if a 212 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:11.759 cause could unite this Council naively, perhaps, but I believed and hoped it 213 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:18.359 would be the cause of international criminal justice. Which Date is in favor of 214 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.559 genocide, war crimes or crimes against humanity, which Date doesn't want to be 215 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.240 a protector of the vulnerable, which Date does not want to be on the 216 00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:30.440 side of legality and against the kinds of violations that we see in so many 217 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:37.000 parts of the world. And notwithstanding all the difficulties that surround us in a 218 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.119 very often dysfunctional world, a world in which too many people feel exposed to 219 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:47.839 the elements, I still think this presents an opportunity if we work together, 220 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.359 if we realize that continuing business as usual will lead us to the abyss and 221 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:59.559 beyond to do the right thing and look at people that have little shelter that 222 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:03.799 have suffered enormously for many different reasons, and that the rule of law must 223 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:08.799 count for them. So a paradigm shift is still needed. It's not going 224 00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:15.480 to be achieved by words or a strategy or a road map. It's something 225 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.640 that we all individually estates, as the Council and as Libya and my office, 226 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:23.279 we have to really try to be servants of something bigger than ourselves. 227 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:33.119 If we can allow the law to breathe at this moment, if we can 228 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:40.440 recognize that different states and different interests have certain situations that are politically difficult for 229 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:47.279 them, but realize that there's value in an international criminal court that is not 230 00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:52.720 part of the political discourse, but is trying and endeavoring to be blind to 231 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:57.599 the noise, deaf to the noise, but applying something that should be pristine 232 00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:03.319 and valuable, which the yards of human conduct, that should bind us all 233 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.400 to keep us away from that abyss that I mentioned. It could yet be 234 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.240 a moment of reawakening to change direction, because otherwise, when one looks at 235 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.440 Libya, when one looks at other situations in the world, whether it's Ukraine 236 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:19.720 or whether it's Palestine, or whether it's the Rhinga or whether it's any other 237 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:26.279 place one wishes to look at. We see issues and so this is the 238 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.799 time, I think for the law to be allowed to breathe, as the 239 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:37.000 councilors found as a precondition for stability and international peace and security, which are 240 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.720 direct responsibilities of the Council. To do that, Mister President, we need 241 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:49.720 to understand that the Roman Statute, the Geneva Conventions, customary international law, 242 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:57.680 and the UN Charter a part of the tapestry of civilization that will allow us 243 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:07.240 to survive this present inclement weather, this present perilous moment that we're facing. 244 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:15.000 If we are real and sincere that every human life matters equally, the rule 245 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:22.039 of law must apply in Libya as it must in every other situation. We 246 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:29.480 can only do that with your help, your support, your solidarity. For 247 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:34.960 something otherwise that can be rendered irrelevant, but something that can't, and that 248 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:38.400 is the law. So, mister President, thank you so much for the 249 00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:44.200 opportunity. I always remain ready and willing to engage with the Libyan authorities and 250 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:53.480 also this Council. Thank you. I thank Prosecutor Can for his important briefing. 251 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:04.240 I now give you the flow to those Council members wish to make statements, 252 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:15.519 will give it the floor to the representative of Switzerland, Mister the President. 253 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:21.680 Last, Mister President Switzerland would like to thank the Prosecutor for his briefing 254 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:25.279 and for presenting his twenty seventh report on the situation in Libya per student, 255 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:32.680 pursued to the mandate included in Security Council Resolution nineteen seventy. This report is 256 00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:38.279 of particular importance as it addresses not only the progress made in recent months, 257 00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:45.200 but also future prospects, notably by proposing a roadmap for the completion of the 258 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:51.839 Office's investigative activities on the situation in Libya. Allow me to highlight three points. 259 00:32:52.599 --> 00:33:00.720 First, the steady and significant progress made in implementing the renewed Action Strategy 260 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:08.000 are important milestones on the route to accountability in Libya. Switzerland notes with interest 261 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:13.960 the progress made in the four lines of inquiry. The progress made in the 262 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:20.119 collection and analysis of evidence concerning crimes committed in detention centers, as well as 263 00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:24.119 the assistants provided to third party states and their national trime trials relating to crimes 264 00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:31.359 against migrants deserve particular mention. We also appreciate the emphasis placed on Psycho's social 265 00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:40.359 support for victims and medical and security assistance for witnesses in collaboration with local authorities. 266 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:49.400 Secondly, the development of a roadmap to complete the investigation phase testifies to 267 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:55.160 the bureaus to the office's commitment to pursuing its activities with clear and precise objectives. 268 00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:01.400 It is nevertheless essential that the implementation of any completion strategy be closely consulted 269 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:08.519 on with all stakeholders, including victims and survivors. We note that planning for 270 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:15.199 the completion of investigations does not mean a reduction in the office's activities, but 271 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:22.360 rather an intensification of investigative efforts. In this regard, we welcome and encourage 272 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:28.920 the efforts undertaken by the Office to strengthen collaboration with the Libyan authorities according to 273 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:37.199 the principle of complementarity, including beyond the investigation period. Thirdly, cooperation is 274 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:42.400 key to enabling the Court to fulfill its mandate. We take note of the 275 00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:46.719 granting of visas and the various visits and substantive exchanges that took place during the 276 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:53.400 period under consideration with the Libyan authorities, and in particular with the Libyan Prosecutor 277 00:34:53.480 --> 00:35:00.960 General. We hope to see a continuation of efforts in this direction to Resolution 278 00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:08.599 nineteen seventy. We welcome the Office's extensive cooperation with third party states, particularly 279 00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:15.039 with regard to crimes against migrants. We also stress the importance of effective and 280 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:22.880 useful collaboration with civil society, affected communities and victims. We reiterate our grave 281 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:30.199 concern about the restrictions imposed on civil society and Libya. Mister President, The 282 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:37.039 Court can only fulfill the mandate we have entrusted to it if it enjoys strong 283 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:45.400 support. We reaffirm our unconditional support for the Court as an independent and impartial 284 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:52.320 judicial institution and pledge that we will continue to implement our cooperation obligations under the 285 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:59.159 Rome Statute. We reiterate our commitment to uphold and defend the principles and values 286 00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:04.639 enshrined in the Realm Statute, and to preserve the integrity of the Court undeterred 287 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:10.599 by any express threats or measures taken against it, its officials, and those 288 00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:17.119 who cooperate with it. We call on states to refrain from exerting any form 289 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:24.800 of pressure and insist that all attempts to obstruct, intimidate or unduly influenced Court 290 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:31.000 officials must cease immediately. We recall that such attacks on the administration of justice 291 00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:38.079 are prohibited by the Statute. By fulfilling its mandate, the Court makes an 292 00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:45.480 important contribution to lasting peace and reconciliation. It is our common responsibility to ensure 293 00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:54.360 that it can effectively deliver justice. Thank you, I think the Representative of 294 00:36:54.400 --> 00:37:00.079 Switzerland for the statement. I now give you the flow to the Representative of 295 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:07.280 Japan. Thank you, mister President. I thank Prosecutor Khan for briefing us 296 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:13.599 on his sixth and the twenty seventh in total report on the situation in Libya. 297 00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:20.159 I also welcome Ambassador Elsny, Permanent Representative of Libya, to today's meeting. 298 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:25.840 It has been thirteen years since this Council referred this case to the ICC. 299 00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:32.039 The Court has engaged in investigations not only with regard to the twenty eleven 300 00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:37.960 violence, but also on issues with detention facilities, crimes related to the twenty 301 00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:45.840 fourteen twenty twenty operations, and crimes against migrants under the mandate of Resolution nineteen 302 00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:52.880 seventy. Japan appreciates these investigative efforts by the ICC and supports the Prosecutor's belief 303 00:37:53.320 --> 00:38:00.239 that these efforts should not be viewed as never ending stories. The objectives of 304 00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:07.440 the mandate set by the Security Council is critically important in the current international political 305 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:14.800 landscape. In this regard, Japan welcomes the roadmap towards completion of the investigative 306 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:20.360 phase in relation to the situation in Libya. We take note that the roadmap 307 00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:27.920 includes a significant activity plan for the next eighteen months, including the ISC's intensified 308 00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:35.320 support for multiple prosecutions in domestic courts. We would also like to highlight that 309 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:42.920 this roadmap also covers the Court's continuing role in the judicial and complementary phases even 310 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:47.719 after the completion of the investigation at the end of twenty twenty five. At 311 00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:53.719 the same time, we like to recall that the humanitarian and human rights situation 312 00:38:53.840 --> 00:39:00.679 in Libya remain distressing amid rising instability in the region. The Security Council press 313 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:07.719 statement issued earlier this month emphasized the importance of providing a safe environment for civil 314 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:15.280 society organizations. In this context, it is important to ensure that the ICC 315 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:22.280 works closely with affected communities and deepens partnership with state civil society and regional and 316 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:31.639 international organizations during the process of completing the investigative phase in order to achieve accountability 317 00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:38.360 for the people in Libya. We also stress the critical importance of continued and 318 00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:45.039 substantial engagement with these groups, including victims, during the next phases of the 319 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:53.199 judicial and complementary processes to realize justice, even given the political stalemate with regard 320 00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:59.880 to procedure. Since this is the very first case in which the Security Council 321 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:05.320 we'll see the completion of the ICC investigative phase under the mandate given by the 322 00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:12.079 Council through a resolution, we recognize the need for the Council to consider appropriate 323 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:19.199 action to reflect this transition. This may include consideration of the reporting requirements of 324 00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:25.719 the Prosecutor's Office after twenty twenty five. Before concluding, we would like to 325 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:32.360 welcome the improved corporation of the Libyan authorities as highlighted in the report, including 326 00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:39.719 the issuance of multiple entry visus and direct engagement with Libyan legal authorities. We 327 00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:46.039 also take note that the roadmap for completion was developed in consultation with the Libyan 328 00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:55.760 authorities and express our hope that cooperation and efforts for complementarity will improve as laid 329 00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:04.400 out in the roadmap. Successful completion of the investigative faith should serve to improve 330 00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:09.920 justice under the rule of law and push forward the fight against impunity. As 331 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:16.039 Prosecutor concluded his briefings, rule of law must apply in Libya as well as 332 00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:22.880 elsewhere in the world. Japan always stands ready to support the Court to fulfill 333 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:30.800 its critical rule. I thank you, I think the representatives of Japan for 334 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:42.119 their statement. Yes, dear representatives of the Press one welcome. We would 335 00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.239 like to make this statement on behalf of the members of the Security Council that 336 00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:50.280 are states parties to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. The I 337 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:55.480 see Ecuador, France, Guyana, Malta, the Republic of Korea, Chiera 338 00:41:55.559 --> 00:42:00.480 Leone, Slovenia, the United Kingdom and our own trees Japan and Switzerland. 339 00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:06.719 We thank the ICIC Prosecutor, Mister Karen Khan, as well as his team 340 00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:10.840 for presenting the twenty seventh report of his office to the United Nations Security Council 341 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:16.920 on the situations in Libya in accordance with the mandate provided by Security Council Resolution 342 00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:23.719 nineteen seventy. We welcome the efforts undertaken by the Prosecutor's Office and the progress 343 00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:30.519 achieved in all lines of inquiry identified in the renewed Strategy for Action on the 344 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:37.719 situation in Libya. In continuation of this strategy, we welcome the development of 345 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:43.920 a roadmap for completion of the investigative phase, and in this respect we stress 346 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:49.559 the importance of taking into account the views of all stakeholders, including victims and 347 00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:54.719 survivors. We positively note that the cooperation between the Libyan government and the Prosecutor's 348 00:42:54.719 --> 00:43:01.440 Office has increased, and we encourage further progress in the regard. Such cooperation 349 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:07.639 is indispensable not only for the conclusion of the investigative phase, but also throughout 350 00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:15.000 the prose, prosecutorial and judicial faces. We thus welcome the recent issues of 351 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:21.000 multiple entry visas, as well as the constructive and substantive exchanges, including on 352 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:25.880 efforts to improve complementarity, which took place during recent visits, and express our 353 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:36.719 hope for continued corporation. We also welcome and encourage the offices efforts to further 354 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:44.920 intensify contact with victims, victims associations, civil society and women's organizations. Moreover, 355 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:50.719 we recorganize the support provided to the Prosecutor's Office by the United Nations Support 356 00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:59.760 Mission in Libya name lee ANSMIL and welcome and welcome the coordinated investigative activities and 357 00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:07.039 international cooperation with the Third States and international agencies. We reiterate that we will 358 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:15.440 continue to comply with our cooperation obligations under the Rome Statue and urge all states 359 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:21.760 to fully support the Court in carrying out its important mandate of ensuring justice for 360 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:29.199 the victims of the most serious crimes under international law. Finally, we reconfirm 361 00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:36.480 our own wavering support for the Court as an independent and impartial judicial institution. 362 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:43.960 We reiterate our firm commitment to uphold and defend the principles and values enshrined in 363 00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:50.920 the Rome Statue, and to preserve its integrity, undetermined by any threats or 364 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:57.920 measures against the Court, its officials, and those cooperating with it. To 365 00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:04.800 conclude, we renew our resolved to stunt united against impunity. I thank you, 366 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:14.800 Thank you. Will deliver remarks to the summit, and he's expected to 367 00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:20.239 have several bilateral meetings with leaders attending the summit. Discussions will mainly focus on 368 00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.960 the situation in Gaza and the wider region. We'll keep updating you on the 369 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:28.639 Secretary General schedule along the way and just for the record, we issued a 370 00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:32.079 statement last night in which the Secretary General expressed his grave concerns by the outbreak 371 00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:37.800 of fighting in El Fasher, the capital of North Darfur. He urged the 372 00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:43.280 parties to immediately stop the fighting and resume ceasefire negotiations without further delay. The 373 00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:46.519 Secretary General is alarmed by reports of the use of heavy weaponry in densely populated 374 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:52.000 areas, resulting in dozens of civilian casualties, significant displacement and the destruction of 375 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:58.239 civilian infrastructure. He recalls that civilians the area are already facing a looming famine 376 00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.800 and the consequences of over a year of war. This fighting puts over eight 377 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:07.199 hundred thousand civilians at risk. The Secretary General reminds all parties of their obligation 378 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:12.880 under international humanitarian law to protect civilians. He also requested all parties facilitate safe, 379 00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.719 rapid and unimpeded humanitarian access to all civilians in need in El Fashire, 380 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:22.639 across darfour and Sudan, and tomorrow I will be joined in this room by 381 00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:28.320 the Resident and Humanitarian Coordinator for Sudan, Clementine and quite Slami. She will 382 00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:32.239 provide you with more details on the human scharian situation in the country. Turning 383 00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:37.280 now to sau Sudan, the Office where the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs reports that 384 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.519 more than an estimated seven million people in the country are likely to experience high 385 00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:45.280 levels of food insecurity through July. According to oja's latest report, at least 386 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:50.639 seventy nine thousand people are at risk of catastrophic levels of hunger, mostly in 387 00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:55.760 locations affected by conflict, economic crisis, and climate related shocks. Our humanitarian 388 00:46:55.800 --> 00:47:00.880 partners are also mobilizing support for people displaced by intercompal fighting in Tambuest County in 389 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:06.360 Western Equatoria. An estimate of twenty six thousand people have fled so far and 390 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:10.599 most residential areas around Tambua Town are deserted. For their part, our peacekeeping 391 00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.840 colleagues are closely monitoring the situation in Tambarra to deter further violence. The UN 392 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:22.679 Mission in Sausudan had immediately deployed additional peacekeepers to reinforce the site. The mission 393 00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:28.239 reports that they have also tripled the number of daily patrols. Currently about two 394 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:31.440 hundred Blue Helmets are conducting daily patrols to provide security to the local population. 395 00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:37.800 Our colleagues at Sau Sudan also continued to engage with community leaders and political parties 396 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.719 at the national and local levels to peacefully resolve any issues and resolve and reduce 397 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:47.119 intercommunal tensions. Meanwhile, the influx of attorneys and refugees from the conflict in 398 00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:52.079 Sudan continues to strain already limited services at border points and in host communities. 399 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:55.440 Since the war in Sudan began in April of last year, at least six 400 00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:00.880 hundred and seventy thousand new arrivals have been registered in Sau Sudan. Eighty percent 401 00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:05.880 of them wereturnees and just a flag that this year's humanitarian appeal for the country 402 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:10.280 remains severely underfunded, which is challenging response efforts. Just eleven percent of the 403 00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:15.320 one point eight billion dollars required has been received to date, some one hundred 404 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:20.760 and ninety five million dollars from Haiti. The Office for the Coordination of Humanache 405 00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:23.360 in Affairs has an update about the impact of the attack by armed groups that 406 00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:29.199 we mentioned yesterday. It took place in Grecier, south of the capital Portu 407 00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:34.320 Prince. According to the first assessments conducted by humanitarian organizations. The May tenth 408 00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.920 attacks in Grecier have displaced some four thousand, four hundred people, Nearly three 409 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:43.000 quarters of them are now sheltering with host families, with others seeking refuge in 410 00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:47.800 seven makeshift displacement sites. This springs the total number of people newly displaced in 411 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:53.079 Poortu Prince in the past two weeks to nearly ten thousand. More assessments are 412 00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:58.719 being carried out and Ocha's liaising with its partners to coordinate the ongoing response. 413 00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:02.960 UNICEF and its partners have reached more than fifty thousand displaced children and families impacted 414 00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:08.800 by attacks since ley February through their mobile clinics. In Porto Frons, Karim 415 00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:13.360 Khan, the prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, brief the Security Council on 416 00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:17.599 the Court's work concerning Libya. He told the Council there was enthusiasm for the 417 00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:22.159 prosecution to open an office in Tripoli. He added, however, that a 418 00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.159 paradigm shift is still needed and the rule of law must apply in Libya, 419 00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:30.599 and this afternoon the Security Council will hold a meeting on Ukraine. Lisa Dowton 420 00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:34.599 the Director of the Financing and Partnership's Division of the Office for the Coordination of 421 00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:45.679 Humangeian Affairs, is expected to brief Council members thank you. The Undersecretary General 422 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.599 for Peace Operations, Jean Pierre Lacroix, is in Qatar, where he engaged 423 00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:52.760 today with government officials to discuss peacekeeping related matters as well as mine action. 424 00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:57.880 Tomorrow, mister Lacroix will arrive in Afghanistan where he will raise awareness on the 425 00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:01.199 impact of explosive ordinance, including on Afghan communities. He will be in the 426 00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:05.199 country until the seventeenth of May and will be accompanied by the Director of the 427 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:09.960 United Nations Mine Action Service, Eileen Khne. Mister Lacroix also aims to explore 428 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:15.800 avenues for effective strategies to clear explosive ordinance from Afghan communities. Afganissan's people are 429 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.920 threatened by mines. In eighty one percent of the eight hundred and twenty one 430 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:25.159 explosive ordinance casualties reported in Afganaissan between January twenty twenty three and March twenty twenty 431 00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:31.679 four were children. The Personal Envoy of the Secretary General on Cyprus, Maria 432 00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:36.639 Anhala Holgin, has this week concluded her third visit to the island, as 433 00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:39.880 well as visits to Ankara and Athens. As she informed the media on Cypress 434 00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:44.039 on the thirteenth of May, she will soon begin to prepare her report to 435 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.320 the Secretary General with her findings and will discuss with him the way forward. 436 00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:53.239 In the meantime, she continues her efforts to search for common ground. This 437 00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:58.480 morning, the Secretary General addressed by video message the annual meeting of the Economic 438 00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:02.639 and Social Council Operational Activities for Development Segment. He said that we stand at 439 00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:07.559 a pivotal moment in our journey towards the twenty thirty deadline for the Sustainable Development 440 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.679 Goals, adding to the UN Development System, led by resident Coordinators, is 441 00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:15.159 critical to getting us there. Last year's SDG summit called for a rescue plan, 442 00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:20.760 and the UN is shifting gears to accelerate action. We are supporting the 443 00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:25.480 capacity development of countries, including efforts to strengthen policy and regulatory environments. At 444 00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:30.039 the same time, the Secretary General told Member states that he is deeply concerned 445 00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:35.440 about the system's funding, adding that securing sustainable and predictable funding is his main 446 00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:40.960 priority for the system. This year and last, we're getting regular budget use 447 00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.639 today from two of the world's landlocked nations. We're fortunate to have two checks. 448 00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:51.599 One from the smallest landlocked country, one of the smallest locked countries in 449 00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:57.119 Europe at approximately four hundred and sixty eight square kilometers. And he guesses what 450 00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:01.559 you're right? Who said? And you are going to get the first question 451 00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:08.599 today, and now we'll battle for the second question. The second payment is 452 00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:13.960 from a landlocked country in East Asia bordered by Russia to the north and China 453 00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:17.239 to the south. That was that was an easy question. Who said that 454 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:25.639 one? All right, all right, I'll I'll give I'll give you second 455 00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:31.840 and third respectively. Then okay, yes, you're you're absolutely right that that 456 00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:37.639 is Mongolia. We thank our friends in Villa and Uar for taking us to 457 00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:43.519 one hundred and ten fully paid up member states. And as I promised, 458 00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:57.320 Ali, thank you quite a community of corresponding being a true gentleman. Farhan, 459 00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:06.719 yesterday you said that three hundred and sixty thousand Palestinians had fled Rafa. 460 00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:13.159 I believe you said just now that it was four hundred and fifty thousand. 461 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.360 Yes, though those are the figures from the Relief and Works Agency UNRA. 462 00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:21.079 It's nearly four hundred fifty thousand, although I expect to get to that number 463 00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:24.679 sometime over the course of this And this is all since since the offense, 464 00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:30.599 the latest defense, exactly since the latest defenses. Okay, So yesterday you 465 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:39.239 said that one hundred thousand people had fled the north. Is there any update 466 00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:46.199 on how many people have fled the north by today? I don't have a 467 00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:52.000 new figures for the North. We expect that there's more going on in terms 468 00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:58.400 of departures from the North given the increased fighting, which is why we issued 469 00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:01.920 the statement that the Secretary General has just put out. But I'll see whether 470 00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:06.199 we can get some figures over the next day or so in terms of departures 471 00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:08.119 from the North as well as from the South. Okay, and a second 472 00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:16.119 question on the US peer, can you tell us whether the United Nations is 473 00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:23.960 going to be involved in any way in the distribution of the aid that's being 474 00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:30.960 brought in by C Well, this is this is something we're certainly discussing with 475 00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:35.760 the relevant authorities, so we'll see what role we have. We we do 476 00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:39.320 intend to play a role, and we're determining how to do that in a 477 00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:46.679 way that fully respects the integrity and neutrality of our operations. And is there 478 00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:52.960 any indication of when this decision might be made. We're in constant talks, 479 00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:59.199 so as soon as we can do it, we will Abdelamie and then Deshi 480 00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:06.239 and thank you for Hahn. This morning the settlers stormed a Axam mosque. 481 00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.679 They raised the Israeli flag inside the mosque. Are you aware of that? 482 00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:14.039 And what do you say to this? Yes, oh, we're aware of 483 00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:17.480 these reports, which are very disturbing. As you know, we always have 484 00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:22.320 called for and continue to call for respect for the status quo at all of 485 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:27.480 the holy sites in Jerusalem, and we do so again today. My second 486 00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:32.320 question for Hahnah you keep repeating the same thing we call on Israel to do, 487 00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:38.599 to respect civilians, to prosecute those who violate international law, to do 488 00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:43.159 this, to do this, but you know, and the whole world knows 489 00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:50.000 that Israel will not do that. What is other than just appealing to Israel 490 00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:55.960 to respect international humanitarian law or international law, and you know they don't. 491 00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:04.360 I don't think it's as simple as that. Different countries are ones in which 492 00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:09.440 we sometimes have difficulties in dealing with them as as we strive to make sure 493 00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:15.159 that all international norms are respected over time, we do deal with all of 494 00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:19.679 the countries in the system. And the reason the international norms are in places 495 00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:23.960 that countries do understand the need to respect and uphold them, and we believe 496 00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:31.960 that the efforts we make are ultimately ones that will be productive. DESHI. 497 00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:36.639 Yeah, First, they follow up on the US peer. You said, 498 00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:43.960 the UN is in constant communication and talks with the contrapart relative part parties. 499 00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:49.599 But the thing is the news told us it will be operating in days. 500 00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:55.360 Do you do you do you believe you can finish this talk within days on 501 00:56:55.440 --> 00:57:00.760 the role of the U e U N. I don't want to the timeline 502 00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:05.760 on the talks. We've been conducting them. We've been conducting them very seriously 503 00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:10.199 and at very senior levels. And uh and certainly if if all the parties 504 00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:15.800 are willing to meet each other, as this can be done in fairly short 505 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:20.159 order. So so you will, let me put it this way, so 506 00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:24.519 you could play its role on that peer, but not necessarily in the very 507 00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:30.239 beginning. Once the of the operation of that peer. Right, Let's not 508 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:34.440 like I said, let's not pre judge. The talks aren't going and we'll 509 00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:37.840 see once they can come to a result. Okay, another follow up, 510 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.440 Another follow up? Do you have more? Maybe maybe I missed this part? 511 00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:46.239 Do you have more information on the the international casualty in Gaza on that? 512 00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:52.519 Uh? Which nationality can you tell us? And and what what is 513 00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:59.039 the what is the situation there? Who? Who did the attack? Uh? 514 00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:02.159 At this stage regarding who did the tech, I can't you know. 515 00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:07.679 I don't. I can't really say that. What I can tell you about 516 00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:12.599 in terms of determining responsibility is that the UN has established a fact finding panel. 517 00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:15.840 It's very early in the in the investigation, and details of the incident 518 00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:23.760 are still being verified with the Israeli Defense Force. What we know so far 519 00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:30.039 indicate that a weapon appears to have impacted the back of a white UN vehicle 520 00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:34.559 carrying two UN staff members, killing one and injuring another. The staff The 521 00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:40.639 deceased staff member has been identified. He is with above Annalkale of India, 522 00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:49.599 and we send our condolences to his family the wounded one. The wounded one 523 00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:52.000 is from Jordan, where we're awaiting her recovery. How many do you know 524 00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:58.519 how many international staff still are there in Gaza. Yes, I have that, 525 00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:02.480 I have that figure. And can you confirm this is the first international 526 00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:07.679 casualty. This is as I pointed out yesterday, it is the first international 527 00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:14.519 casualty. International staff in Gaza is currently at seventy one. Seventy one. 528 00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:19.280 Okay, one last question. Okay, but really, let's pug it around. 529 00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:21.760 Actually, let's move it around now we can come back to you, 530 00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:29.679 Tatic. Yes, oh sorry, Jordan, good afternoon. We just said 531 00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:38.000 something about settlers. You just said that does the SG condemn the settler attack 532 00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:44.760 on human Italian convoys going to Gaza yesterday? This is what you were just 533 00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:51.039 said. Yes, of course we're opposed to all of the attacks on humanitarian 534 00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:57.039 convoys, whether by settlers or anyone else. But I want to underscore to 535 00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.199 everyone how serious it is that at a time when people are danger of starving 536 01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:09.639 to death, there's no excuse for blocking or or attacking different convoys to get 537 01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:15.599 food to those in need. Yeah, me, can you tell me like 538 01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:22.480 the situation of the Georgian and international staff. It's like, how it's moderate, 539 01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:29.360 it's that's the lie. How that that person was insured, she is 540 01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:35.960 receiving hospital care. We hope the she's in ICU or she just fine. 541 01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:39.280 Do you know, I wouldn't give that detail on your status. She's receiving 542 01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:44.840 medical attention. We believe that she will make it through. Gabriel, Thank 543 01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:46.639 you for han. Some of my questions have already been answered, but I'll 544 01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:54.320 have a couple of follow ups. So the UN is in contact with Israeli 545 01:00:54.360 --> 01:01:00.599 officials about the incident, correct, yes, And does that mean that Israel 546 01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:09.000 has Does that mean that Israel has the shots fired were from Israel and it's 547 01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:13.719 just a matter of the circumstances or are you still trying to determine if the 548 01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:19.440 shots came from israel An Israeli personnel or not. I think the point is 549 01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:25.639 we are in discussion with Israel too determine exactly how this incident happened. In 550 01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:30.960 the nature of what happened, I don't think. I don't think at this 551 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:36.400 stage we are in doubt about where the shots came from as much as what 552 01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:40.119 the circumstances were. Where did they come from? We believe it came from 553 01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:47.119 a tank in the area, okay, And what were the was when they 554 01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:52.360 were going to the European hospital, What was the purpose of that convoy to 555 01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:55.239 go to the hospital. Do you know any more detail on that. There's 556 01:01:55.280 --> 01:02:00.360 regular work that's going on in terms of bringing people to different sites and this 557 01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:05.599 was part of that last fallow up if I may, going to the settler 558 01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:09.280 attacks on the AID convoys that you spoke about already, are you also in 559 01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:16.000 contact with Israeli officials about using their security personnel to stop such attacks, because 560 01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:23.119 there were reports that Israeli security personnel watched it take place without intervening. We 561 01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:29.239 want to make sure that everyone in a position of responsibility take up their responsibilities 562 01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:32.079 to make sure that humans and aid can go to those who need it. 563 01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:39.960 Yes, Maggie, and then Velo Demer, thanks for Hahn continuing on the 564 01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:47.639 attack yesterday on the two UN staffers. This fact finding panel that you mentioned, 565 01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:53.000 who's on it? Like who? Is it a dssess thing or like 566 01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:58.440 who? How many people? Where are they from about the details of this, 567 01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:00.320 But yes, it's basically something that being set up by the Department of 568 01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:06.039 Safety and Security. And the Jordanian staffer who was injured, is she in 569 01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:09.880 hospital in Gaza or they were able to evacuate her to Jordan. She's not 570 01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:14.400 in Gaza right now. No, but she she does. She is receiving 571 01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:17.840 her hospital care. Yeah, okay, hold on, I have you listened 572 01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:24.159 Vladimir first, and then Benno think of her? Quite a different question in 573 01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:30.199 the Caucuses. The Georgian Parliament today adopted in its final version a law and 574 01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:37.840 so called foreign agents similar to Russian Russia's. Tens of thousands of people in 575 01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:45.480 the capital of Tbilisi are protesting and the police have resorted to violence. What 576 01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:49.639 can the Secretary General say about that? Yes? What I can say on 577 01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:54.360 that is that the Secretary General is following with concern developments in Georgia, particularly 578 01:03:54.400 --> 01:04:00.000 the violent clashes and reports of disproportionate use of force by law enforce personnel against 579 01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:06.840 demonstrators protesting against the draft law and transparency of foreign influence. The Secretary General 580 01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:11.800 echoes the concerns of the UN Country Team in Georgia and the High Commissioner for 581 01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:15.440 Human Rights on the negative impact the law may have on the freedom of expression 582 01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:20.880 and the media, and on civil society in general. He calls for restraint 583 01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:27.199 and dialogue between the authorities and civil society, as well as prompt investigation of 584 01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:33.119 all allegations of ill treatment during or after protests or in detention. Beno, 585 01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:40.360 thank you. Another follow up to the incident in Gaza. You said, 586 01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:45.760 um, you think that the shots were fired from the direction of a tank? 587 01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:49.840 Am I right? That only the IDF have tanks in the regent? 588 01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:54.400 I think that's a safe assumption to me, Yeah, but I had to 589 01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:58.440 ask it. I think. Secondly, can you confirm that one of the 590 01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:03.719 victims had a double nationality. I don't have a confirmation of that. The 591 01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:09.800 person who died is an Indian national. That's as much as I can establish. 592 01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:15.840 And oh, I forgot my third one. Sorry, we can come 593 01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.360 back around to you, Tarek and Daney. I'm sorry, Jordan, I'm 594 01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:24.960 sorry. Sorry, I misnamed you twice. Okay, I know you since 595 01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:30.960 nineteen ninety three and you still forget my name. That's okay. Do you 596 01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:34.599 know how many I mean fairst of all, is there any Uman presence in 597 01:05:34.679 --> 01:05:40.519 El Fasher? And how many international staff there and how safe are they? 598 01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:45.159 I do not believe that we have a presence in El Fasher itself, but 599 01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:50.880 I'll check and see whether that's the case. And the second fellow up, 600 01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:57.960 if you alarm me, you said mister lacrew in Katar, and he's going 601 01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:01.480 to Afghanistan. That's correct, That is correct. And can you tell us 602 01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:08.719 how he's going to Afghanistan? Is this commercial flight or how he's going there? 603 01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:14.199 We don't give out detailed travel arrangements, but yes, we expect by 604 01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:23.800 plane. Yesdi, thank you. On the issue of fuel getting into Gaza, 605 01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:31.559 is there any update on how much is left and whether any fuel trucks 606 01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:36.679 have managed to get in today? As far as I'm aware, there's been 607 01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:42.960 no there's been no transit of fuel trucks today. We've had a small amount 608 01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:46.199 of fuel, but we've been rationing it. Hopefully I'll try to provide an 609 01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:49.280 update for you by tomorrow in terms of whether we can get more fuel in 610 01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:55.480 Deji. Just a quick fall up with the Edi question, do you have 611 01:06:55.559 --> 01:07:01.239 any trucks today entering Gaza from the UN I didn't receive any information on new 612 01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:09.239 fuel trucks going in. Other and deliveries put it this way, As far 613 01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:13.679 as I know, rafa as An opening has closed. There's been problems getting 614 01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:17.199 aid through in Karam Shalom in a way that we can transit it outwards. 615 01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:24.599 So right now things are the standstill. There may be some activity the areas, 616 01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:30.480 but I'm not aware of it. Abdlamite. And then Maggie, thank 617 01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:36.519 you. I have a question on Karim Ham's Karim Han's speech, you don't 618 01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:42.760 have to answer, but I have to ask. The two points were missing. 619 01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:47.199 He didn't mention anything about the threats he received from the US. That 620 01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:53.239 in his speech and his right of reply he mentioned that because he was asked 621 01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:57.800 about it. And second he did not mention whatsoever, what's going on in 622 01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:01.199 Kacer? What do you think of that? Well, the topic at hand 623 01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:06.800 was Libya, but beyond that, I wouldn't I don't speak for Karam Kahan, 624 01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:11.360 who is part of the International Criminal Court, which is independent of the 625 01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:15.360 United Nations. Why he didn't meet with the press. I know that he 626 01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:20.119 was contacted and he denied. He turned down the offer. Well, that's 627 01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:25.880 his choice. As as they say in parts of America, you can take 628 01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:30.520 a horse to water, but you can't make him drink Maggie. And then 629 01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:33.640 and then Jordan again, I know there was a briefing in Geneva, so 630 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:39.520 sorry if this might have been covered there. But the two UN staffers involved 631 01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:45.239 in the accident or incident yesterday in Gaza, what were their actual job titles 632 01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:48.039 like what were they? I mean they were part of the Department of Safety 633 01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:53.520 and Security. So they both work with DSS in security jobs and they have 634 01:08:53.560 --> 01:09:00.680 security jobs. Yes, yeah, Jordan, the office in Gaza, who 635 01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:09.600 are their boss? Who they're reporting to? Well, DSS obviously reports to 636 01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:13.960 the head of DSS here in New York. But in terms of who they 637 01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:17.720 report to in Gaza, as you know, there's the Humanitarian Coordinator who deals 638 01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:24.920 with Gaza. Yes, thank you Fron. A lot of flow questions about 639 01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:29.800 the incident yesterday have been asked in which the Indian colonel passed away was killed. 640 01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.840 Would you have any other numbers as to how many personnel from India or 641 01:09:34.760 --> 01:09:40.119 are stationed there or are part of the DSS or other UN agencies. I 642 01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:45.239 don't have a breakdown by nationality of staff. Like I said, there's seventy 643 01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:53.520 one international staff in Gaza, but we don't you know, we don't have 644 01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:59.640 nationality breakdowns that fluctuates from time to time. Obviously, we appreciate the contribution 645 01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:04.760 that in has made and we were and we also express our our apologies and 646 01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:12.880 our condolences to the government and people of India. Gabriel and then Beno thank 647 01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:16.840 you for han has Israel apologized to the UN. Like I said, this 648 01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:23.600 case is still under review. Yes, now it came to my mind what 649 01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:27.720 I wanted to ask, do you see this attack as a deliberate attack on 650 01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:32.840 the u N. The point I'm making is that this case is still under 651 01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:36.720 review. We'll see what the review results in. Okay, and you mentioned 652 01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:43.920 how these costs were marked. Is there like any reason to believe that could 653 01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:48.960 they could have been mistaken or anything. It's hard to say. Again, 654 01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:53.720 as the review proceeds, will need to see what the precise nature of the 655 01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:58.000 circumstances were. And with that, I wish you all a good afternoon and 656 01:10:58.039 --> 01:11:03.399 we'll see you tomorrow. No, no, no, America. What about 657 01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:14.279 question online? What I did you online? Sorry? Who's that? Okay? 658 01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:20.199 This is stephano Oh oh yeah yeah. Someone someone just said the question. 659 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:27.600 Yeah, what's your what's your question? Say? Well, I'm thank 660 01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:36.039 you. I'm here outside the Trump trials. Here happened something extraordinary. Wait 661 01:11:36.039 --> 01:11:39.560 wait, wait stuff stuff. No, Steph no, please let me stop 662 01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:42.439 you right there. If this is a question about the Trump trials, I've 663 01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:44.760 got nothing to say. No, no, no, it's not about the 664 01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:50.760 Trump trials. It's above the Speaker of Congress that just spoke here to journalists 665 01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:57.720 and he said that all the justice system is corrupt and the democracy is in 666 01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:02.560 danger. Then live them with with with respect, with respect. This is, 667 01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:06.399 this is, This is a line of questioning that has an opinion of 668 01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:12.000 what's happening, not the trials. Stephanie, please please please please with with 669 01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:15.920 respect. This is not a line of questioning that I will entertain. Have 670 01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:59.680 a good day, now bye. The show has been produced by Depictions Media. 671 01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:04.479 Please contact us at depictions dot media for more information.