WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:33.320 Hey, what's up part of people? How's it going on? DJ? 2 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:39.039 From Calling All Beings? And I'm here on a very very unique night tonight 3 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:44.840 to talk about something a lot of us are tracking, the Karen retrial in 4 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:49.039 Massachusetts. Oh look at that. I have the Bigfoot background on here, 5 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:55.840 and I was curious if any of you. We haven't typically covered things like 6 00:00:55.920 --> 00:01:02.840 this on Calling All Beings, but being you know, being the gravity of 7 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:07.959 this case and what the implications are and what has been alleged on both sides, 8 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:11.760 I thought that I would do an episode on it. I've been very 9 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:18.200 very so somebody's in the chat. Hey, doctor Mounts is here? Doctor 10 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:22.120 Tim Mounts, who I believe is he is the host of all things unexplained. 11 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:26.319 I believe he is down in vacation Turks and Kicko's or something right now. 12 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:30.000 So hello, doctor Mounts. So I don't know if anybody is going 13 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:37.359 to come on this stream tonight because we are a UFO big Foot and Paranormal 14 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:41.239 show, but we are going to start a new version of this. And 15 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:46.879 I've been fascinated with the Karen Rey trial in Kent, Massachusetts, and I 16 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:53.359 have looked into every angle of this case and listen to all these amazing, 17 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:57.560 amazing content creators and I'm talking about I'm going to start with the young jerks 18 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:05.439 and all of his guests, Masa, and there he is on his other 19 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:07.120 end. Thank you Tim for chiming in. You might be the only one 20 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:10.240 tonight, but we'll see. If somebody wants to chime in and talk about 21 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:14.560 Karen Reid, I can send you a link, I can bring you on 22 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:17.080 the show, or you can join in the live chat and share your thoughts. 23 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:22.960 But I certainly would welcome anyone that wants to have a conversation about it, 24 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:30.439 and I'd send him a vine. So a little about me. I'm 25 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:35.800 twenty one year retired military guy from Air Force Special Operations. I was a 26 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:42.960 law enforcement major in college. I have two of my college teammates from Dean 27 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:47.719 College in Massachusetts. One of them is a police chief in Massachusetts now, 28 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.919 and one of them is a retired motorcycle officer in Massachusetts now. So I 29 00:02:54.000 --> 00:03:00.479 do have quite a and pardon me, I don't have my green screen on, 30 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.280 so that little distraction in the background, but I didn't have time to 31 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:08.919 get the green screen up and running. But in any case, one of 32 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:15.319 my classmates from high school is let's say that he is sort of at the 33 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:20.199 kernel level in a state police agency. So I have love and respect for 34 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:30.840 law enforcement despite the fact that I am as you'll see here freeker and read. 35 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:34.919 So that that's my take on it. But you know what, there's 36 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.719 a lot of things to talk about in this case. So I'd like to 37 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:46.560 kind of start near the beginning and start kind of work through things and then 38 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:50.280 see, you know what we come up with as a group. And like 39 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:53.319 I said, if you message me here, if you have a question, 40 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:58.159 to throw it up in the chat and if you would like to come on 41 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:00.639 the show, I can. I can send you a and then you can 42 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:04.280 join on air and discuss. But yeah, I'm thinking of all the great 43 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:11.439 contact content creators. Melanie Little Attorney. Melanie Little is an attorney from New 44 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:16.680 York. Mark Beteroh has been amazing. Mas of media from Massachusetts is amazing. 45 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:21.120 I want to say his name is Mike Crawford helped me out if I 46 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:24.879 if I'm wrong on that. Uh. He is the host of the Young 47 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:29.959 Jerks. He's an amazing turtle boy. Oh boy, if you didn't have 48 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:34.199 a turtle boy this case, this might have Karen Reid might have had to 49 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:38.959 plead. I mean, who knows. He's the one who bought the brought 50 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:46.240 the snowplow driver to to to the four Lucky Lochran without him. I mean, 51 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:48.519 he certainly adds a lot, a lot of weight to the case. 52 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:53.279 He was a very believable witness. So let's let's kind of work our way 53 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:58.600 through it and see where we get to. So we know that everybody was 54 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:04.959 together in the bar. We had the I guess you know, the two 55 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:11.519 love birds who were fighting intermittently, Karen and her boyfriend, the deceased John 56 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:15.680 O'Keeffe. Who's you know, the victim in this case, And let me 57 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:25.759 put that there. Huh justice for John also, so we've got to put 58 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:36.399 that in there. So so it is Brian Higgins, it is uh is 59 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:42.920 Brian Albert among others. You had Jen McCabe and her husband Matt there and 60 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:48.439 they eventually so you're thinking that these two don't get along. And what it 61 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:55.519 would have been suspicious to me if i'm John O'Keeffe, is that, uh, 62 00:05:55.560 --> 00:06:00.759 they're inviting me back to the house and yet they're not really close friends. 63 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:05.480 And apparently there had been some beef between Colin Albert, maybe littering beer 64 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:12.319 cans and so forth on the lawn of John who is probably rather particular about 65 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:17.639 his lawn, and then telling Chris Albert, and then Chris Albert they made 66 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:21.240 up a name from some cartoon character that's a get off my lawn guy, 67 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:27.120 never something. I don't know who the character is, so I'm very unfamiliar 68 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:32.920 with it. But apparently they had tagged they had tagged that name onto to 69 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:40.519 John O'Keeffe, which is a perfectly reasonable thing. And probably seeing the attitude 70 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:44.959 that a Colin Albert has, the way that he interacted with Turtle Boy, 71 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:49.600 you could definitely see him flipping the double bird and so forth to John O'Keeffe, 72 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:55.560 knowing that not only is he an elder, meaning he's an older person 73 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:59.319 than you, he's also a Boston Police officer, as is your uncle Brian. 74 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:05.360 So that should have triggered something. So if when we look at what 75 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:12.079 happened or what is alleged, it is alleged that Karen drops him off there 76 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:18.800 in the area of twelve twenty something and then is tired of waiting for him 77 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:25.079 after ten minutes and decides to go home. We know she went home because 78 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:29.319 we know that. I think even the Commonwealth said that she logged onto the 79 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:34.199 internet at John's house at twelve thirty one, which makes me wonder because there 80 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:41.800 was so much much that was contrived if they had their timeline established prior to 81 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:49.480 sharing that information in discovery with the defense. So the question is what happened 82 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:57.120 after that? So then he goes in there and apparently there had been a 83 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:05.079 text from Brian Higgins back to John excuse me, to Karen Reid about like, 84 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:09.879 hey, what's up question mark? And I can't remember what Karen Reid 85 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:13.759 texted back, but it didn't seem like she wanted to proceed forward, although 86 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:22.120 apparently she had kissed Brian Higgins, something she probably really regrets today, given 87 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:26.439 that she probably didn't know what kind of an individual that she was dealing with. 88 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:33.840 So then we get to the night in question, where or the time 89 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:39.120 in question, where supposedly she is, you know, back at her residence, 90 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:45.279 but they think the murder happened around that time. I guess the me 91 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:48.480 is the one that established the time of death, but at the very least 92 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:54.279 the prosecution side, the Commonwealth gave the time of death. But the problem 93 00:08:54.320 --> 00:09:03.080 is that Karen Reid would have been back at John's home. Now, as 94 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:09.559 many of the attorneys have said, it seems to stand to reason that if 95 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:18.799 these experts have said there's no way that someone drove back their car up at 96 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.840 twenty four miles an hour and hit this gentleman, and that they would have 97 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:28.399 had to have hit him center mass in order to throw him the thirty feet. 98 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:35.519 It wouldn't have been enough to just hit his arm because it just would 99 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.240 have turned him. It would have turned his body, but it wouldn't have 100 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.679 thrown him thirty feet. So that is a big, big issue. So 101 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:50.120 when you have a couple of experts that are alleging that this is not possible, 102 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:54.679 and you have so obviously all of you know that there are two witnesses 103 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:01.600 that Alan Jackson established in direct testimony direct examination, I should say that they 104 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:09.399 were neither hired nor engaged by the prosecution nor the defense, and had never 105 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:15.559 spoken with them. But they were hired, paid for, and engaged by 106 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:20.519 a third party, who we have to assume is the federal government. One 107 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:24.200 of the original gangsters on this case other than Turtle Boy, is of course 108 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:31.039 Sean McDonough, the former DA agent who went to high school in Kenton. 109 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.960 His parents lived there for over half a century, even though he grew up 110 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:43.120 outside of there, and somebody from mass would have to correct me on where 111 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:48.399 Sean McDonough grew up prior to ninth grade. I think when he arrived in 112 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:52.840 Kenton and went to high school there. In any case, he says that 113 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:58.480 the FEDS had this case quite early on, as early as February, and 114 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:05.679 the the night in question being January twenty ninth of twenty twenty two. So 115 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:09.840 my cat is sorry, procis we got a show going on? Buddy? 116 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:15.000 All you content creators, you've all dealt with dogs and cats in the room. 117 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:18.679 There are family. What are you gonna do? Hopefully my cat won't 118 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:20.240 crawl up on here tonight and go in front of the camera and all that. 119 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:31.159 So the things where things get really suspicious and where my New York and 120 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:41.600 where your Massachusetts BS meter should go off is because a couple of things. 121 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:46.600 If we didn't know anything else, if we hadn't heard from the experts, 122 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:54.279 but we know that someone is a celebrated Boston police officer and he wakes up 123 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:58.440 at six something in the morning and sees that there is a plethora, There 124 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:09.919 is ambulance, there is fire engine, there are police vehicles outside and flashing 125 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:15.360 lights in front of your home in the early morning hours of you wake up 126 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:24.080 and you see that there is no way on this earth that any police officer 127 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:30.399 is not going to run outside and go, oh my god, a brother 128 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:37.200 officer from BPD, a junior officer, is dead on my lawn. There's 129 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:46.440 no way on this earth that that doesn't happen unless you don't want to be 130 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:56.200 interviewed by the police that are present, and you know that the police who 131 00:12:56.240 --> 00:13:03.879 are present are not going to come and knock on your door and go and 132 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.240 mister Albert, officer Albert, can we talk to you please? We talked 133 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:13.960 to you, sir. Yeah, I'd like to get a dead officer from 134 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:18.720 BPD on your lung. We need to speak to you about that. And 135 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:26.399 then subsequently, would you mind if we look around your house do an investigation, 136 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:35.519 look for evidence of something which clearly probably all night if this unfolded the 137 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:37.840 way that we think it does, that there was some sort of an incident 138 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:41.120 down in the weight room. It could have even been it could have been 139 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:46.519 as something as little as a punch where the victim John O'Keeffe fell back, 140 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:52.159 hit his head on a piece of weight equipment, and then you know, 141 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:54.799 it ended up being the fatal blow that killed him. It could have been 142 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:01.399 very unintentional, and it maybe it was. Maybe he was never even struck 143 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.759 with an object. But in a weight room everything hurts, you know, 144 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.720 there are a lot of you know, the ends of barbells are sharp objects, 145 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:13.200 the ends of certain dumbbells are sharp objects. There are a lot of 146 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:18.840 things in a weight room that could hurt you if you were falling out of 147 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:22.840 control, And it could be as simple as something like that happened totally unintentional. 148 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:31.399 The problem is is that when people are drunk and they're aggressive and they're 149 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:39.039 angry by the time they gather themselves and someone has a fatal wound to what 150 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.919 they said was the uh just to the right of the occipital lobe on the 151 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:45.639 back of the head, the softest part of the skull. I believe that's 152 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:50.440 what doctor Sheridan, the Irish gentleman, talked about. Well, now you 153 00:14:50.639 --> 00:15:01.679 have now you have someone who's dying, and so the true first responder and 154 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:07.279 a lot of police officers are trained and very skillful in CPR and life saving 155 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:11.720 techniques, not to the degree obviously of EMS, but a lot of police 156 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:16.720 officers have these skills and use these skills and save people's lives with these skills. 157 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:24.519 And if it happened like that, Brian Albert could have just called EMS 158 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.679 and said, oh my god, this got we You know, we had 159 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:33.039 a tussle, we were wrestling, we were horsing around in the weight room, 160 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:41.559 and he got hurt. But instead they didn't do that, and the 161 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:46.480 body ends up out on the front yard up through those I don't know what 162 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:52.279 you call those doors that open up into people's backyards. You know what, 163 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:58.120 I'm gonna put on some mood music in the background. I'm here, let's 164 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:03.679 see where it is. There goes okay, and let me get a drink 165 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:07.840 of water. Because anytime you're doing a solo podcast and you have to talk 166 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:12.639 this damn much, you get parched, as as you content creators know, 167 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:22.080 and you aspiring content creators can just can imagine that that's the case. So 168 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:32.639 now the smart person, the first responder calls, calls the MS and they 169 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:37.960 come and you explain it away and say, hey man, we had a 170 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:42.279 we had a little bit of a fight, and you know, there was 171 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:48.399 a shove and he fell and he's as hurt. But instead the idea comes 172 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:52.679 up on is we have to, you know, we have to cover this 173 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:59.320 up somehow, So we've got to concoct a story by which this woman hit 174 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:03.880 him with her su despite that he has zero you can see that zero, 175 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:11.079 zero injuries that are consistent with being hit by a car doing twenty four miles 176 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:15.640 an hour, which is incredibly difficult to back your car up at that speed 177 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:22.119 because of the fact that the steering mechanism that we're used to using that's in 178 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:26.279 the front of the car is now in the rear of the car because we're 179 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:30.160 backing up, so every input to the steering wheel is really exaggerated. So 180 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:36.160 backing up straight is very difficult. As I mentioned earlier, I come from 181 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:41.839 Air Force Special Operations Command, and they had a tactical driving course that certain 182 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:45.319 squadron members would get to go to and they would learn skills like that backing 183 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.799 up at high speed, whipping the wheel around, and turning the car. 184 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:55.799 Because some Special Operators get involved in urban environments, suburban or rural environments where 185 00:17:55.799 --> 00:18:00.000 tactical driving is necessary to egress the area. I never went through that train. 186 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:03.039 I haven't been there. I've only talked to people that have been to 187 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:07.000 it. So I doubt that Karen Reid would be able to back her vehicle 188 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:11.279 up at twenty four miles an hour, even if she had a reason to 189 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:17.400 what she was acting like that night, and all those phone messages that she 190 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:21.480 left were John for John, We're consistent with a girl who's really pissed off 191 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:29.279 with her boyfriend who was doing something untoward, potentially potentially untoward with regard to 192 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:33.119 text messaging other girls, et cetera. I don't know what set her off. 193 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:37.640 We don't know what goes on in people's bedrooms and stuff, but we 194 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:45.079 do know that it's not uncommon for women who feel like they're being upstaged or 195 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:49.839 whatever. Particularly a woman, you know, and even a man, can 196 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:56.279 feel very vulnerable when you're going through the type of medical conditions as miss Reid 197 00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:00.880 was and potentially is with colitis and have to have a colostomy bag and things 198 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:07.720 that the trooper was making fun of her. For Mike Procter, who will 199 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:15.839 get to it's you feel vulnerable, and if you think that your boyfriend is 200 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:22.599 chatting it up with another woman, you can see how that could bring out 201 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:30.240 anger in a forty something woman who thinks that or believes that her she referred 202 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:34.200 to him as a pervert. So you have to assume that she learned something 203 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:41.559 of him and involving him and another girl of whatever age, because that evoked 204 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:45.160 her to refer to him as a pervert. We don't know. I'm sure 205 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:48.160 John was an amazing guy. I'm sure a lot of guys, all of 206 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:52.640 us, have done stuff like that that we shouldn't have done. It doesn't 207 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.279 demonize John. And girls get pissed off and they scream at you and you 208 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:00.039 say I'm sorry, and then you don't do it again. So that's so 209 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:07.759 that's all we know about that. But this appears to be what has happened, 210 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:11.640 because the experts say this was not you know that. The Emmy said, 211 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:18.240 I can't characterize it, but it seemed like it was more consistent with 212 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:21.319 some sort of a fight, and the arm seemed more consistent with a dog 213 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:25.359 bite. I think there's some photos online on Reddit of a hunter who was 214 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:30.480 attacked by dogs and you could see his arm, and then you juxtapose right 215 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:33.519 next to that is a picture of John O'Keefe's arm and it looks very much 216 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.720 the same. And we all know that anybody who's been bitten by a dog. 217 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:40.880 This is all common sense stuff here. I mean, we could say, 218 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:44.319 bring in the experts, but this is all common sense stuff. If 219 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:48.920 you get hit with a car going twenty four miles an hour center mass and 220 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:52.119 your rock glass hits the tail light, I don't care what happens to tail 221 00:20:52.160 --> 00:21:00.880 light, you are gonna be seriously bruised, seriously bruised before you expire and 222 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:04.720 pass away, as they alleged he did, you potentially could have internal injuries, 223 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:11.839 fractures, broken bones, definitely massive bruising. So we all know that 224 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:18.880 to be true. But for the sake of discussion, we're gonna pretend like 225 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:22.559 we need to really hear. We know this. The abrasions on his nose 226 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:29.920 above his eyes consistent with maybe even a boxing glove if somebody was wearing it, 227 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.640 you know, and going past his nose, maybe getting hit in the 228 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:37.559 eyeballs. And obviously this injury to the back of his head that doctor Sheridan 229 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:42.200 is certain what killed him that the brains, and he read the Emmy's report, 230 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:47.640 but the brain swelled up. It's consistent with his eyes closing up and 231 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.200 that was the end of his life. She said hypothermia was involved, which 232 00:21:52.240 --> 00:22:02.720 means he may have been alive still after that injury. But doctor Sheridan believes 233 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:07.960 he did not get up and walk after that injury, and that should that 234 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:14.640 should be very interesting to everybody. This is not to ascribe and pigeonhole and 235 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:18.480 say police are bad, because that's absurd. Without police, we would have 236 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:23.880 anarchy in the streets of every single town, village, and city in America. 237 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:30.920 So that's how important that police are. Without police, we have complete 238 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:36.519 anarchy. We have people shooting one another in neighborhoods outside their house. The 239 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:44.119 thing that keeps most normal, sane people from doing something violent to someone who 240 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:48.839 pisses them off, even in the most minor way. You watch Judge Judy 241 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:52.599 hear how neighbors have gone at it right is knowing that the police will come 242 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:59.359 and they can lock you up, they can remove you from your freedom. 243 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:07.160 So there a blessing. But when a police officer abuses his power or her 244 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:11.400 power, they can also be a curse. And now we'll get to Mike 245 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:18.039 Procter. Uh, I'm not going to get into all the locker room language 246 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:23.799 that he used, because I don't think that's particularly important. The language that 247 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:30.440 Mike used is my I don't hear my song playing. Maybe you guys do, 248 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:37.480 okay, I do hear in the background. It's disgusting language. I 249 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:45.519 can tell you just to give you my perspective as a former military guy. 250 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:52.920 So I've got twenty one years, you know, active duty in the Air 251 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:59.920 Force, working with all services. I played football at Dean College and was 252 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:04.039 the locker room there, played semi pro football, been part of wrestling, 253 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.319 dabbled around and did significant amount of jiu jitsu and those kind of dojos, 254 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.920 and have messed around with a little bit of mma to know that I'm not 255 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:22.720 good at it. I have never spoken about a girl in those terms in 256 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:30.599 which Mike Procter used. I'm not saying that. Probably I haven't had teammates 257 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:36.680 and so forth, and have I am. I have not heard people talk 258 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:41.559 like that, and I am. I don't know what else to say about 259 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:45.599 that. I'm not gonna be labored that because it's not really the point. 260 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:52.000 It just dehumanizes, as as he said, it dehumanized Karen Reid. And 261 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:56.440 when you dehumanize people, you can do things to them. That you wouldn't 262 00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:03.640 normally do. If you see that as another person, you will hear in 263 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:08.000 Nazi Germany, you'll see the propaganda that started way back in Austria when Adolf 264 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:14.640 Hitler was in Austria as an artist, before he even came to Germany immigrated 265 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:21.319 to Germany, that that type of dehumanizing language and the cartoons and the characters 266 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:26.960 allowed them to see the Jews as subhuman, that allowed them to commit the 267 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:33.079 atrocities that they've used. I had a friend share with me the other day. 268 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.680 This was on her Facebook timeline. I don't know, I don't think 269 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.440 it was an individual from our high school. She was an upperclassman to me, 270 00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:45.480 but it was someone that was a friend of hers, and it was 271 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:52.039 talking about I'd like to take all the Democrat libtards out and shoot and kill 272 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.519 them, something like that. So this was a woman saying this. So 273 00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:03.720 that type of dehumanizing language, in any event, will allow somebody to commit 274 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:10.079 acts of violence that you wouldn't normally commit if you saw somebody as similar to 275 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.519 yourself, and Karen Reid could be any of us and all of us, 276 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:18.880 and Mike Proctor could be any of us and all of us but we hope 277 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:26.319 that someone that would commit an act like what we think happened to John O'Keefe. 278 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:29.839 We don't hope that that's many of us. In fact, that that 279 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:33.759 would be very very very few of us, and hopefully most of those are 280 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:36.680 locked up, although we know that they're not. So let's get to that 281 00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:45.759 now. So Mike Proctor arrives and as I mentioned earlier, never goes and 282 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:49.039 says, knocks on the door. Let me do the knocking sound, see 283 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:56.240 if we can hear it. Pick us up, and mister Robert offer Robert, 284 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:03.759 it's Mike Proctor, talk to you. How could you not go and 285 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:10.200 knock on the door and say I want to talk to you. I realized 286 00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:14.720 your brother, officer. I realized we're colleagues. I don't know what the 287 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:18.720 friendship was, but we do know that Brian Albert's nephew, Colin Albert, 288 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:23.359 was the ring bearer at Mike Proctor's sister's wedding. I want to say, 289 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:27.160 her name is Courtney. Forgive me if I'm wrong about that. We do 290 00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:33.480 know that, so we know because of the wedding photo, Mike Procter was 291 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.799 in there, and so is Colin Albert. Colin Albert was in the house 292 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:41.119 that night. What we don't know is if they had spoken or not, 293 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.880 Mike, if there had been any texts or phone calls that had happened, 294 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:49.000 because we never got Brian Albert's phone, and we're going to get to that. 295 00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:59.119 How could Mike Procter not say, I want to talk to regardless if 296 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:02.559 you think you know what happened at the scene of that house, I need 297 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:07.839 to talk to everybody that was in that house, everybody that was at that 298 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:14.200 party last night. That includes Brian Higgins, who already went to the Kenton 299 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.519 Police Department to try to grease the skids over there and had already had a 300 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:25.519 twenty two second phone call with a butt do of what Brian called a buck 301 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.480 dial, and then he actually had a twenty two second conversation with Brian Albert, 302 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:33.559 which could have been to go over getting story straight kind of stuff, 303 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.640 very basic broad stuff. But hey, the police weren't coming in knockinghams on 304 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:48.000 Brian's door, and that makes me kind of sick because everyone from that home 305 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:56.519 should have been brought out down to the local state trooper Barracks, put in 306 00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:03.519 separate rooms and interviewed about what happened, every single one of them, including 307 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.279 Officer Brian Albert. But that didn't happen, and that's because there wasn't an 308 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:18.200 honest investigation conducted in this case. That makes me really sad because that would 309 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:23.319 have been the way to determine who actually did something. Didn't get I mean 310 00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:27.640 did they? I mean right there at the scene. I mean all if 311 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:32.680 you thought that this woman did this, and she's there at the scene, 312 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:34.720 all you have to do is snap a photo of her car in the tail 313 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:40.279 light, get photos going all of video or photos going all the way around 314 00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:45.119 her vehicle, and then you could do official after the fact, after you 315 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.319 go and actually seize the vehicle. You could take photos of it as it 316 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:56.240 sits. But they didn't do that because if they did that and people say 317 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.599 that's weird, it's not weird, it's smart. If you want plausible deniability, 318 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:06.559 we get somebody in the comments, Hey, Billy Baseball, what are 319 00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:14.480 you talking about. I'm perfectly willing to hear you, Billy. If you 320 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:26.599 want an honest investigation, you need to you need to do things like that. 321 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.319 You know, you need to document take photos of the woman's car as 322 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.880 it was at her parents' house, and you seize the vehicle, so that 323 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.119 way nobody could question whether or not something happened to the car. You're not 324 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:42.400 taking photos of the car until after the car arrives at the sally port. 325 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:48.039 Then how do we know what the condition of the car was? How do 326 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:53.519 we know that you didn't do something into the car? We don't. Oh, 327 00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.359 I'm actually just not familiar. Oh, okay, Billy Baseball. So 328 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:03.119 this is the okay, So, first of all, thank you for chiming 329 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.039 in. This is the Karen Reed trial that's occurring in Kenton, Massachusetts, 330 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:12.680 an amazing state, to be sure, and the story is quite simply. 331 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:19.799 A forty ish woman out with her boyfriend, a Boston police officer, Sean 332 00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:26.480 O'Keeffe, is partying at a beautiful restaurant bar in Canton called the Waterfall, 333 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:36.480 with another Boston police officer, a sergeant named Brian Albert, and a ATF 334 00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:44.039 agent named Brian Higgins, and some other wives and girlfriends excuse me, husbands 335 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:48.440 and wives and so forth that were there. And so there was you know, 336 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.279 ten or so odd people. I could I actually could have brought up 337 00:31:52.319 --> 00:32:00.920 that graphic of who was there. At one point there was some chatting going 338 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:07.400 on between Brian Higgins, the ATF agent, and John O'Keeffe's girlfriend, Karen 339 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:15.680 Reid, and there was apparently a kiss that happened. After that, they 340 00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:21.960 went back to the home of Brian Albert, the Boston Police sergeant in Canton, 341 00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:27.720 to party and or have an after party from the party, and John 342 00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:31.240 O'Keeffe was invited. So what Karen Reid says is, I went over there, 343 00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:35.599 I dropped him off. I didn't want to stay. He said he 344 00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:38.839 would go in for a few minutes. So ten minutes went by and she 345 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:43.640 was pissed off. So she drove home and hoped that he would either call 346 00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:47.599 for a ride home or get an uber or maybe somebody would drive him. 347 00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.240 There were a lot of people at the party, Jen McCabe and her husband 348 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:59.160 Matt McCabe, who are kinfolk to the Alberts and so forth. So the 349 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:04.960 next morning, oh shit, a kiss, right, Well, it just 350 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:09.160 shows that there could have been something between the ATF agent and John O'Keeffe if 351 00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:15.400 he was aware that the ATF agent, Brian Higgins, was making eyes at 352 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:22.640 his girlfriend. The bottom line is that Karen Reid goes home to John's house 353 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:29.319 looking after the children there and sends a bunch of texts to him about how 354 00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.960 pissed off she was because he didn't call her. They believe that the time 355 00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:39.519 of death was around twelve thirty. At twelve thirty one, Karen Reid was 356 00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:45.519 logging on the internet at his They have her phone logging on the internet at 357 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:50.839 John O'Keefe's home, so he was dead. She doesn't know it. She 358 00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.400 keeps texting him and not get any response. The next morning, she wakes 359 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:59.200 up and John O'Keefe is not there. She calls a couple of the women 360 00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:02.559 who were at the party. They accompany her back to the Albert residence. 361 00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:12.760 John O'Keefe is lying dead on the lawn of Officer Brian Albert's house. So 362 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:19.000 two brother officers, one owns the home and who has a prominent family in 363 00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:23.519 Kent, Massachusetts, and the other officer is dead on the front crass. 364 00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:31.079 Here's what's gonna get you, Billy. I knew an ATF guy who got 365 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:37.159 stocker ish with with someone. I am not trying to generalize or be right 366 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:44.039 exactly. I'll tell people, and I guess you've set this up perfectly for 367 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:51.599 me. I come from the military background, the police have their microcosm of 368 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:57.079 people society at large. You know, we could go to three letter agency 369 00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.320 guys, whether they be FBI. You know, there's FBI guys that are 370 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:07.119 that are in jail for betraying their country out Aldra James. You had not 371 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:14.360 only Aldre James, Robert Hanson, and then I'm trying to think of the 372 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.840 woman that was just released from prison, the Cuban American uh And in the 373 00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:24.280 military, we have many military guys who have committed acts of let's just say, 374 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:30.079 depraved acts of murder, rape and everything else and have used been a 375 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:35.159 nepotistic and so forth, just like what you've seen here in Canton. So 376 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:40.440 one group is not necessarily better than the other. There are good and bad 377 00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:45.559 people in all of these different groups. Okay, so we we know that. 378 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:51.880 So now now that we've established that this is not and to say that 379 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:58.199 I am free Karen Reid hashtag free Karen Reid hashtag hashtag justice for John O'Keefe 380 00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.639 is not a statement that I think police are bad, because they're just like 381 00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:08.960 all of us. We have people who people have bosses at work who are 382 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:15.320 reasonably kind and treat them with respect and don't abuse their power over them. 383 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:20.559 And we have other people at any office, job, anywhere that will abuse 384 00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.360 their power, that will try to gain favor, that will ruin somebody's career. 385 00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:30.000 All these things happen. Happens in government, It happens in state government, 386 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:35.719 federal government, law enforcement, military, financial world, you name it, 387 00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.440 real estate, right, Hi, Sierra, how are you welcome? 388 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:45.840 Bien venidos? So well? Thank you, thank you so much. I 389 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:52.039 really appreciate that. Our show here, yes, DJ is correct, Our 390 00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:57.719 show here is calling all beings. We normally cover UFO's Bigfoot and pair normal. 391 00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:07.639 However, we are starting a new endeavor. Man, I can't oh, 392 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:09.679 man, I want to announce it, but we're doing. We're going 393 00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:14.519 to do a second show with our four people. We have my co creator 394 00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:19.599 Nathan, who has a master's in divinity. We have two psychology majors, 395 00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.360 Courtney and deb So we have four of us, two guys, two gals. 396 00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:27.239 And oh, thank you. I appreciate that, Sierra. I digit 397 00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:32.639 thank you for watching. I can't tell you what our new endeavor is. 398 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.239 Nathan is going to create the imaging for it this weekend. We're going to 399 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:42.679 make an announcement, but it will not be anything like this version of Calling 400 00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.039 All Beings, which will continue, but we're also going to do a new 401 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:51.320 podcast that we'll be closer to what we're talking about tonight. I'll put it 402 00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:54.840 to that way. So let's get back to Let's get back to the case, 403 00:37:55.119 --> 00:38:00.119 because where we were, I know Nathan and Courtney are ausome. Some 404 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:07.039 deb is amazing. I'm really blessed to have a great Yeah, yes, 405 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:13.199 Billy, you were called to be here. Thank you so much. Let's 406 00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:16.039 get back to the case. Here, we were talking about Mike Proctor, 407 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:22.360 who looking forward to I know James I and Oli James. James has been 408 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.039 such a blessing. If you didn't know this, here James and I are 409 00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:31.400 we're not from the same hometown, but he's from probably nine miles ten miles 410 00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:36.119 away from me, maybe less, but he lives in my hometown right now. 411 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:39.599 So James and I are are quite quite close. But let's let's get 412 00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:45.199 back to the case. So, so now we have the dead officer, 413 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:52.559 Boston Police officer John O'Keefe on Boston Police Sergeant Brian alberts Lawn, and we 414 00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:57.480 have the state trooper who comes to investigate. Is a man named Mike Proctor. 415 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:09.159 Mike Procter Mastatrooper is friends with the Albert family. Colin Albert, the 416 00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:15.000 nephew of the homeowner, Brian Albert, was the ring bear at Mike Procter's 417 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:20.800 sister's wedding. They were both ring bear and groomsman there in the wedding photos 418 00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:30.079 together. The problem here is how Mike Proctor can honestly say that he never 419 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:37.159 was going to knock on the door of the homeowner in which a dead body 420 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:44.639 was found on that lawn and he didn't think he needed to knock on the 421 00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:49.360 door of the homeowner and say what's going on here. Let's flip that one 422 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:55.320 hundred and eighty degrees. I am a lifelong or adulthood long police officer. 423 00:39:55.360 --> 00:40:01.639 He was a Suffolk County sheriff previously in in Suffolk County, mass and then 424 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:07.480 he was a BPD h and was elevated very quickly to sergeant and he was 425 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.599 on a fugitive recovery team. Brian the owner of the home, Brian, 426 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:22.280 Brian Albert. How how does Brian Albert not come out of his home with 427 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:31.320 a dead body there and all these emergency vehicles there? You got, yes, 428 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:38.400 you gotta knock. How did Brian Albert? How did not any one 429 00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:43.840 of the ten people or so that were at this party that they alleged this 430 00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:51.119 that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is alleging she was hit between somewhere between twelve twenty 431 00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:54.280 something and twelve thirty something. Forgive me that I don't have those details written 432 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:59.719 down, and that he was dead on the lawn at that time, and 433 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.840 Jen McCabe just left and went went home. If that's the case, how 434 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:07.679 did none of the party goers, despite there being a blizzard not see a 435 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.599 body on the front lawn and go, hey, Brian, did you know 436 00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.760 there's a dead guy in your lawn? I mean that, how did that 437 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:22.960 not happen? Secondly, they found so a blogger and I encourage you guys 438 00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:30.559 all to go and check out Turtleboy Live. Turtleboy is a former teacher, 439 00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:37.960 high school teacher, and track coach in Massachusetts who has become an amazing investigative 440 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.639 journalist. He is the one that broke this story to the national media, 441 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.559 or the national media wouldn't be covering it and there wouldn't be a thousand people 442 00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:54.280 out in front of the courthouse during deliberations of this case. He found the 443 00:41:54.280 --> 00:42:01.360 plow driver who drove by the Albert home after that twelve thirty time frame somewhere 444 00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:07.199 in the one o'clock hour and plow that road because it's a main road. 445 00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.840 There was nobody in their driveway. Are you sure there was nobody? You 446 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:15.719 sure you would have seen that you had full view of their lawn? He 447 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.760 said, I had full view. You had, turtleboy, you gotta go 448 00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:25.280 to Billy got him. He said, I had full view of that lawn. 449 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:30.559 There was nobody there. He came back for a second pass in the 450 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:35.400 two o'clock hour, I believe, and there was a Ford Edge guests who 451 00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:39.960 owns a Ford Edge Brian Albert, that was parked in the street. And 452 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:45.760 the modus operandi of the plow drivers for the Department of Works is to call 453 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:52.159 their supervisor and have the police tow vehicles that are left in the street, 454 00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.559 because the residents know in Canton you do not park in the street. You 455 00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:00.960 park anywhere but the street when we're plowing. So that's what they do is 456 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:07.480 they go and they they call the supervisor. What Lucky Lochran did is he 457 00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:13.360 said, because the Alberts are a family that I'm friendly with, I worked 458 00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:17.559 delivered pizza for them for eight years. Because Chris Albert, Brian's older brother 459 00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:23.320 owns a DNA pizza shop in Canton, and Lucky Lochran worked there part time, 460 00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:29.119 so he as a as a courtesy to the family, he did not 461 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:35.159 call his supervisor and asked they tow that vehicle that was in Lucky Lochran's way, 462 00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:40.039 even though the driveway you can fit six cars at least in the driveway 463 00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:45.960 of the home. After that ford edge was moved, that's where the body 464 00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:52.519 was found. Take that from what you will. We don't know what happened. 465 00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:57.760 We just know that mysteriously a car that was parked in the driveway, 466 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:02.559 Chris Albert's car was now moved to the street and it was moved a little 467 00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:08.159 ways down the street near his flagpole, and that's where the body was found. 468 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:15.840 Was that car obscuring a body that had been placed there? Don't know. 469 00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:22.920 But the physics experts that were hired by we assume are the US government 470 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:29.440 because they weren't hired by the Commonwealth and they weren't hired by the Defense. 471 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:37.039 But their report, these two PhDs who do accident reconstruction their companies called ARCA 472 00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:45.559 they offered their report to They offered to testify on behalf of the prosecution, 473 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.199 and the defense prosecution said, nope, we don't need it. We had 474 00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.920 Trooper Joe Paul look at the accident. He told us what happened, and 475 00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:58.360 then we had these two PhDs that are used by the US government, the 476 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:05.559 NHL, and these guys are of the highest regard in this industry, and 477 00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:09.519 they said, what you saying happened, didn't happen, homie, So get 478 00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:20.119 step damn back. Okay. So anyway, so that's where we were at. 479 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:31.400 Now the plot thickens because in addition to Trooper Mike procteror not knocking on 480 00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:37.119 the door and asking Brian Albert, hey, what happened here? A and 481 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.719 b can I search your home, to which Brian Albert could have said, 482 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.760 no, you cannot search my home because you don't have a probable cause, 483 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:50.639 to which Mike Proctor could have got a warrant, but that was never going 484 00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:54.440 to happen because he knows that family and there was no way he was going 485 00:45:54.519 --> 00:46:00.119 to do that. So do you think that they got the cell phones of 486 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:06.840 Mike Proctor, excuse me, the cell phone of Brian Albert and the ATF 487 00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:13.679 agent who potentially could have had beef Brian Higgins could have had beef with the 488 00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:20.719 deceased Sean O'Keeffe officer Sean O'Keefe. Nope, they did not get those cell 489 00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:27.480 phones. What ended up happening is months later there was a court order mailed 490 00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:36.280 to Brian Albert to tell him to get rid to secure his phone and all 491 00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:43.400 content, sim cards, et cetera as evidence, and Brian Higgins got the 492 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:46.599 same thing. But guess what, not that they heard about it ahead of 493 00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:52.199 time, because we know that wouldn't have happened they traded in their phones and 494 00:46:52.280 --> 00:47:04.000 destroyed their SIM cards or two days before, not that anyone in the system 495 00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:09.360 there in the courts would have like the grand jury that they unpaneled, not 496 00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:14.719 that they would have ever been leaked that they were going to go get their 497 00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:21.039 cell phones and said, hey, you've been gearing yoursel phone because we're gonna 498 00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:27.199 come and snatch them and do a forensic analysis on it. Because there are 499 00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.159 other people in the case where they did do a forensic analysis, like Karen 500 00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:36.800 Reid's phone and Jen McCabe's phone. Jen McKay being I believe a cousin of 501 00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:40.519 the Alberts who was present that night, and they found where she deleted a 502 00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:45.960 text. Not everybody in the case agrees, but the expert who was independent 503 00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:50.559 I'm trying to remember his name now, who's the last one to testify, 504 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:55.719 said there was a deleted Google search at two twenty seven in the morning that 505 00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:02.400 said quote hostlong dying cold, which was meant to be how long dying cold? 506 00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.320 Now, Wow, that is a really strange Then that same search happened 507 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:12.719 again at six something in the morning, six twenty seven and six point thirty 508 00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:17.480 something like that. And when Jen McKay was asked about why she googled that, 509 00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:23.119 she said, because Karen Reid was so frantic and crazy and she asked 510 00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:28.639 me to google it, so I did. Yeah. Right, when Karen 511 00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:32.280 Reid found out that her boyfriend was dead on the lawn of this house, 512 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:37.920 I'm sure the last thing she was thinking about was, oh, I wonder 513 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:39.920 how long it takes to die in the cold. I'm sure at that point 514 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:46.360 was oh my god, my boyfriend. The now foster dad, if you 515 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:51.840 will, of these two children. Because what Sean O'Keefe did is I believe 516 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:57.280 it was either his brother or his sister they died in a car accident, 517 00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:02.199 father and mother, and these kids were now without parents and he was kind 518 00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:09.840 enough to bring them into his home and raise them. And Jen mc excuse 519 00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:15.920 me, Karen Reid was more or less helping with that. So that's the 520 00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:22.239 story is we know it, and the problems I have are you know, 521 00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:30.880 obviously the science of it. But when you lie about one thing. Oh, 522 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:35.480 by the way, we talked earlier in the show about the dog bites 523 00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:39.320 that were on the arm of John O'Keeffe, the officer, John O'Keefe, 524 00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:44.840 that appeared to be animal bites that were not consistent with getting hit by a 525 00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.960 vehicle going twenty four miles an hour because there were no broken bones, no 526 00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:53.199 fractures, and no bruising on the body. There'd be big time bruising on 527 00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:59.280 the body if you were hit hard enough to fly, as the Commonwealth says, 528 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.039 thirty feet in the air, flew thirty feet in the air, your 529 00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:06.880 body's going to have some damage at the point of impact, which is going 530 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:15.360 to be as those witnesses, the expert witnesses from RCA from the state said, 531 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:20.119 it would have had to hit you center mass. It couldn't have just 532 00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:22.159 hit your arm, and if it did, it wouldn't like look like a 533 00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:29.840 freaking dog bite, which is what it looks like. So when you lie 534 00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:32.920 about one thing, it's kind of judged Judy esque. Don't believe the things 535 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:37.559 that you say, so I don't believe that they didn't plant evidence of the 536 00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:45.599 tail light. There is some photos out there of Jen McCabe's fIF Excuse me, 537 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:49.840 I keep confusing Jen mccab and Karen Reid, which probably both of them 538 00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.320 would kill me. For both Jen McCabe and Karen Reid. Karen Reid is 539 00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:59.159 the victim in this case. Hashtag free Karen Reid, hashtag justice for Officer 540 00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:09.280 John O'Keefe. There is an image of her at five something in the morning 541 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:15.480 when she was gonna go look for John of her vehicle and you can clearly 542 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:22.280 see the red tail light lens on the right rear tail light is illuminated. 543 00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:29.119 And the way that after the police were alone with the vehicle at the sally 544 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:36.519 Yard in Canton, which was not a state police run facility, but it 545 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:45.880 was the Canton sally Port, the tail light was destroyed and wouldn't you know 546 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:51.039 that there is vidia Hey, what's going on? Uh? Tim? Tim 547 00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:57.360 Hallarin, How are you? Thank you so much? Sir Tim Hallaran is 548 00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:02.800 uh from a Delaware. He is the host, along with his beautiful wife 549 00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:09.320 Dana, of Bigfoot Influencers. He is a former baseball scout and an amazing 550 00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:20.199 guy, amazing human being and documentarian of people who have had influence in the 551 00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:24.960 Bigfoot community, some of which are from Massachusetts, by the way, not 552 00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:34.199 the least of which is Ronnie LeBlanc. So now we have the Karen's vehicle 553 00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:39.559 at the sally Port, and wouldn't you know that the video doesn't work at 554 00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:45.280 certain points when the car, so you can't see the car clearly through the 555 00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:50.119 whole time, and you can't see what happened. Then you could see that 556 00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:58.440 it looks like the broken tail light is on the right, but the video 557 00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:04.800 is being filmed through a mirror, because they could see that the number on 558 00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:09.280 the garage door was flipped around as if you were looking at it in a 559 00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:15.199 mirror, whereas the camera should see the number four as number four and not 560 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:20.679 a backwards for then you could see someone look like they do some sort of 561 00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:27.039 facocta something with the rear tail light of Karen's car. But it's very bad 562 00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:32.400 video, which was probably meant to be that way, and there's also missing 563 00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:40.280 video as well, so also believe it or not, Karen Reid when she 564 00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:46.039 left that morning to go look for John, you can see where it's an 565 00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:57.559 enormous amount of snow and she backs up and taps John O'Keefe's jeep with her 566 00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:05.000 right rear. Hence the tail light, not the destroyed tail light what they 567 00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:09.960 eventually showed in court, but just a cracktail light. But they had to 568 00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:15.039 make sure it fit the crime of a tail light hitting a human being holding 569 00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:23.880 a rock glass at twenty four miles an hour. So the accident reconstructionists went 570 00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:31.599 and made a cannon and fired a rock glass at the tail light at thirty 571 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:35.840 one miles an hour. And it's just because they couldn't get the pressure just 572 00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:38.559 right to make it go twenty four, but it destroyed the tail light. 573 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:46.000 So the part where it doesn't comport. Hey, duncan, how are you 574 00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:53.320 slathering Kobe's amounts of lube doing what? I don't know what? I don't 575 00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:59.679 know what he's talking about there? Put that in time out because that looks 576 00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:05.000 like that looks like it was kind of nasty. Whatever he was talking about 577 00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:15.559 so anyway. So there's so many things that don't make sense. So even 578 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:22.639 the dog that was alleged to have bitten John O'Keefe on the arm seven years 579 00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:25.599 was with a family. That dog When they asked where's that dog, that 580 00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:30.679 dog has been rehomed, Brian Albert said on the stand, And by rehomed, 581 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:39.679 I mean probably means that it was euthanized and probably burned and buried somewhere 582 00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:46.119 so that it could be used to match the teeth of the dog up to 583 00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:52.199 the injuries on John's arm, because likely the coroner measured those, and you 584 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.800 could measure the dog's teeth and see where which teeth might have fit perfectly into 585 00:55:55.840 --> 00:56:00.559 his arm, and you could do the same with claws. So the dog 586 00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:07.000 was rehomed. So Brian Albert got rid of his phone, as did his 587 00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:14.039 potential co conspirator, Yes I'm a co conspirator. In interesting on air discussion 588 00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.679 as you can see below, Brian Higgins got rid of his phone the same 589 00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:22.480 day that Brian Albert did. The dog they got rid of they even sold 590 00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:30.320 the house and he has go aw's it going. Mick Mick is from the 591 00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:36.280 UK. Mick is part of our normal calling all beings audience not necessarily here 592 00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:39.199 for the Karen Reid trial. Although there is a gentleman named Dylan who is 593 00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:45.320 covering this trial extensively from Wales. I want to see what the name of 594 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:54.639 his show is. Dylan is phenomenal Dylan and officer former retired dah and Sean 595 00:56:54.719 --> 00:57:00.679 McDonough who is from the area. Let's see if fucking I'm going to try 596 00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:07.239 to find on trial. There we go. I just want to let you 597 00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:10.280 guys know, if you want to get in on some of these shows, 598 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:15.920 I'm looking for it now. The Young Jerks is great, j u Rks. 599 00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:21.760 I just love the Young Jerks. They're awesome. I think we're gonna 600 00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:27.800 have a hung Jerry here ultimately surviving the survivor. That one's not it, 601 00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:32.760 but that's another great one. There's so many great podcasts that are covering this 602 00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:38.480 case, so you have a lot of a lot of great information to get 603 00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:44.320 you to understand what happened. And there's lawyers on each of them and so 604 00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:52.159 forth. I can't find the one with Sean McDonough. Sean Oh, Sean 605 00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:57.480 McDonough, Karen read going through the motions. I believe that's it okay, 606 00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:02.599 so going through the motions. Oh, that's Sean's own podcast, but he's 607 00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:07.599 generally on with this guy from the UK, which is really good and his 608 00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:14.440 name is Dylan, so I believe he makes these beautiful, incredible model trains 609 00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.119 over in the UK. So anyway, sorry, I can't help out with 610 00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:22.880 that. I'm just kind of jumped into this, jumped into this world recently 611 00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:28.719 and now I'm sort of trying to comment on it. So it's gone, 612 00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:30.800 good brother, Thank you, fist bump to you. Mick. Mick is 613 00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:37.800 one of the fans of Calling All Beings. We do have a new show 614 00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:43.719 that's coming out that's gonna be tangentially involved to what we're talking about tonight. 615 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.159 But the bottom line, folks, is when it looks like a duck, 616 00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:52.079 talks and walks like a duck, it's a duck. And that is the 617 00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:58.639 reason why all these suspicious things have happened. Ron Albert didn't come out of 618 00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:05.199 his house that her brother officer was dead on his lawn. Why Brian Albert 619 00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.760 was not interested in what was that? Why the police didn't feel the need 620 00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:12.840 to knock on the door of Brian Albert and say, hey, we'd like 621 00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:16.519 to talk to you, Sergeant Albert, there is another officer dead on your 622 00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:21.280 lawn. I want to see what you know about it. That never happened. 623 00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:25.559 Never got all the witnesses in separate rooms down at the State Trooper barracks 624 00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:30.519 and question them. Brian Albert then got rid of his phone, so there'll 625 00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:37.679 be no forensic evidence of all the calls he made, all the places they 626 00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:42.280 may have calls. They they don't have all the data from his phone, 627 00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:49.320 where he went, what he did. You know, there's many things that 628 00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:53.920 they could look at, but there's nothing to investigate. Then we hear from 629 00:59:54.320 --> 01:00:02.800 Sean McDonough thirty five years in law enforcement between being he's from Canton, Uh, 630 01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:07.960 he is a Massachusetts original, and then he had a long long career 631 01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:14.360 in the DA and supervisory agent in the DA. And Sean McDonough says he's 632 01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:19.039 heard from people from Canton, He's heard from mass State troopers, he's heard 633 01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:22.800 from Boston Police. So all three agencies there have been people and sources that 634 01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:27.639 contact Sean McDonough because they know, regardless of the fact that he lives in 635 01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:30.960 Naples. Now he is one of them. And when you hear him talk, 636 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:34.400 there will be no doubt. He's from the Greater Boston area. And 637 01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:43.199 Sean McDonough says that the FEDS were involved in this case and were investigating this 638 01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:50.559 case very early on. Within days after, a guy named I want to 639 01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:59.480 say Steve, a guy named Scanlon, former Suffolk County sheriff with Brian Albert, 640 01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.800 walked into the office of the defense. He was a former boxing training 641 01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:08.000 partner of Brian Albert, walked into the Suffolk walked into the defense's offices law 642 01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:15.159 offices and said Karen Reid did not kill Sean o'keef. Brian Albert did, 643 01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:20.280 and then covered it up and told him there was a fight, blah blah 644 01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:23.320 blah, and basically talked about what happened and I don't remember exactly what. 645 01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:25.960 You know, You're gonna want to listen to Sean McDonough. He's got a 646 01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:31.679 lot of information and he expects that there are sealed indictments that will be opened 647 01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:37.159 after this case is finalized, which is probably going to be in a hung 648 01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:44.440 jury because in America, we don't do consensus, we don't do compromise, 649 01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:49.679 we do tribalism. I'm in this camp. You're in that camp either. 650 01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:59.239 Karen Reids the devil or Brian Reid and Brian Albert and what you call it, 651 01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:04.920 Mike the devil. Truth is that nobody's the devil. It's just all 652 01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.639 of the things they did. You can't piss on me and then say, 653 01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:09.280 hey, you know what, DJ, it's raining now. I'm not going 654 01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:16.519 to believe you that it's training. So all the elements of this case point 655 01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:22.280 two, that there was a cover up because all the suspicious behavior wouldn't happen. 656 01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:25.920 Anybody watching this case right now, and I'm seeing over a hundred of 657 01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:32.320 you, anybody in this watching me speak right now, within the sound of 658 01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:38.519 my voice, knows that if someone were dead on your lawn and it were 659 01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:44.519 a colleague of yours, and that could be a colleague at work, anybody, 660 01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:47.280 it doesn't have to be a fellow police officer. You are going to 661 01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:52.760 run out your front door and go, oh my god, what happened. 662 01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:59.039 You're going to talk to the officers on site and go, hey, man, 663 01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:01.559 I don't know what happened to this guy. You know, I don't 664 01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:07.400 know how he got here. Brian Albert never did that stuff. He never 665 01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:12.880 opened that door, because if he would open that door, what if they 666 01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:15.000 would have said, hey, can we come in take a look around, 667 01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:24.800 you know, can we turn the lights out, spray luminol, put the 668 01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:29.519 black light on, and see if there's any blood splatter in your weight room 669 01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:37.320 downstairs where it's alleged by at least mister Scandlon this happened. Any normal police 670 01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:43.079 agency would have done that because when I went to Dean College, I was 671 01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:51.119 a law enforcement major there and what I learned in administration of the justice is 672 01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:59.840 we enforced the law, and we follow the law. We enforced the law, 673 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.719 we follow the law. And what people like Sean McDonough who came to 674 01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:09.880 this movement after a thirty five career, thirty five year career in law enforcement 675 01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:18.920 not only here but overseas on behalf of the DA, is that someone who 676 01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:26.119 is corrupt and doesn't follow the law as a law enforcement officer makes them look 677 01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:31.760 bad unnecessarily. And that's really sad. That's really sad. So with that, 678 01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:41.440 I thank you everybody for chiming in and listening and watching. I'll probably 679 01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:46.639 do I'm gonna try to get I'll see if I can get boy. This 680 01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:53.639 guy was NYPD in various roles. He was detective, he was Swat. 681 01:04:55.480 --> 01:05:00.400 He's a professor at John Jay College of Criminology. His name is doctor Keith 682 01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:04.840 Taylor. He's now an under sheriff with Suffolk County on Long Island. So 683 01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:10.159 I don't know if I can get doctor Taylor. I just chatted with him 684 01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:14.480 tonight. I don't know if in his official role he could comment on this 685 01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:17.840 case now, because now he's not a contractor for the government anymore. He 686 01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:23.119 worked for Homeland Security. He's done many things, doctor Taylor, but now 687 01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:26.880 he's an under sheriff. So if I could get him on, I will. 688 01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:30.079 I'll also have I have some I have an attorney friend, and the 689 01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:36.920 attorney friend is from Massachusetts and his family he is connected to the O'Keefe family, 690 01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:44.239 so he doesn't want to come on. And he's from the UFO community. 691 01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:48.000 But he's also a lawyer and his family is also connected to the O'Keefe 692 01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:51.920 family. So don't know if we're gonna get him either. We'll keep looking 693 01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:57.320 and we'll try to get someone from law enforcement and try to get an attorney 694 01:05:57.400 --> 01:06:02.159 on and you know, hopefully on Monday that the jury will wear only you 695 01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:05.760 know, forty eight hours away. Less than that. Now, hopefully we 696 01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:11.519 will have resolution in this case, hopefully will be a not guilty verdict and 697 01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:17.519 hopefully it's sad that the federal agency has to do this to avoid embarrassment, 698 01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:27.159 because it's always the cover up. Whatever happened to John O'Keefe is something that 699 01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:34.760 could have been hopefully fixed. We could explain to his family that there was 700 01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:40.159 a little bit of a tussle in the basement and a fight and he lost 701 01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:45.480 his balance, or we hit him and he fell and the fall was fatal. 702 01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:50.320 That's something that you can explain to the family. What you won't be 703 01:06:50.360 --> 01:07:00.679 able to explain to the family is if the Feds have the goods on some 704 01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:04.239 of these players that were involved in this case and are able to prosecute them 705 01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:09.360 and prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they did something. Now, how you're 706 01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:15.360 going to apologize to the family. Tragic accidents happen, and what you do. 707 01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:21.360 You know, car accidents, these things happen. You call, you 708 01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:26.199 call nine to one one, you call the police, you call ems or 709 01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:33.079 fire and you apologize and maybe your life has changed forever, but it's done 710 01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:41.920 so honestly. But once you do something like this, you can never come 711 01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:45.840 back from it. You can never be. The people will never look at 712 01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:59.760 you the same. So, with that feeling very pensive, thank you everybody 713 01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:08.159 for tuning in. I look forward to speaking with you again as things progress, 714 01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:14.679 because I expect that we are going to have some sort of federal involvement 715 01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:21.840 with the Department of Justice after this case is concluded. And I hope only 716 01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:32.840 those who have committed acts of fraud or criminal acts are held responsible and that 717 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:41.880 nobody who's innocently doing their job is caught up in that. So thank you 718 01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:47.680 all you content creators out there in Massachusetts who are covering this case. Thank 719 01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:53.840 you to all you law enforcement officers that have to deal with the score and 720 01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:58.000 and scrutiny that you don't deserve because you're out there honestly doing your job. 721 01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:01.399 And then there's some people like this to kind of make it look like all 722 01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:09.279 of you are something when we know that that's not true. Free Karen Reid, 723 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:15.479 a woman that I believe is innocent based on all the things that these 724 01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:18.199 guys, the Alberts did in their family. If they had nothing to hide, 725 01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:20.960 they wouldn't have done that. Hey, here's my phone, Sure, 726 01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:26.880 come in look at the house if you want search it here's my phone, 727 01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:31.079 here's Brian Higgins's phone. Come on in, don't even need a search warrant. 728 01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:36.279 That's what it is. And by god, man, I want to 729 01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:42.560 find out what happened to John. He's a brother officer from my department, 730 01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:49.159 from BPD. None of that happened. So what happened Brian Albert retired so 731 01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:56.159 he could get his pension. Make sure he got that going wouldn't be under 732 01:09:56.399 --> 01:10:01.760 investigation from internal affairs. Retire, get rid of your phone, get rid 733 01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:04.880 of your dog, get rid of your house. There's no evidence. Now, 734 01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:11.760 you can't even go to the house and tear it up because who knows 735 01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:15.600 if there's any they could have. I'm sure they tore apart everything in that 736 01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:21.479 house before they sold it so that they couldn't find anything. Tear the floors 737 01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:28.239 up, the walls, everything's gone. I'm sure. I know it was 738 01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:30.560 a weight room, but I'm sure they tore the hell out of that. 739 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:33.640 So all those puzzle mats that were probably on the floor, who knows. 740 01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:38.399 So anyway, thank you everybody. I don't want to babble on further, 741 01:10:38.479 --> 01:10:42.640 but thank you. I appreciate it. Well, we'll come back, we'll 742 01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:46.039 talk about this as we go forward, hopefully there'll be a verdict, and 743 01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:51.600 in addition to that, we will in the aftermath if there is a federal 744 01:10:51.640 --> 01:11:01.800 investigation into the dishonest brokers that are in this case. Thank you, hece out